Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
I disagree. Please can we just end all the political talk. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, GRAS wrote: From: GRAS Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 2:10 PM I must respectfully disagree, this wasn’t about bashing anyone– to state a platform on which a candidate is running is just that – no one was calling any candidate horrible names! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think this is the forum for politics. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday
Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President
I don't post very often but had to put my 2 cents in on this topic. I think if more people would vote for the person they think would do the best job instead of getting hung up on the party this country would be a heck of alot better. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats for President. I don't agree with getting on here and bashing another party. I really don't think this is the forum for politics. Cindy Reasoner --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:52 AM I really think this discussion has turned to a Republican bashing session. We Republicans disagree with almost everything you guys have said but there's no point of getting into it because no amount of discussion will change your mind. And that's okay because that's what makes America great - we can disagree without feeling the threat of reprisal. It is interesting to hear the Democratic views and what things you believe but some things are just not true like the supposed "war on women." Mitt and Paul do not have the complete authority to do some of the things mentioned and many Republicans wouldn't go along with these kinds of things anyway. But it's okay with me if that's what you believe, I just don't think we can intelligently debate all the facts when we are not in the "inner circle." I think we've worn the topic out and nothing you guys have said will make me change my mind about Obama and obviously I will never change your minds about Republicans so let's talk about something else like animal abusers and trying to get the death penalty for them. Just kidding - well kind of. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:43:25 -0400 > From: at...@optonline.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Off topic: President > > Diane R., not only are you pretty sure - you are absolutely correct! > Not to mention what Mitt and Paul intend to do: Get rid of Planned > Parenthood which screens women for cancer, has helped a friend of mine > numerous times because she can't afford to go to a doctor; reverse Roe V. > Wade, getting women killed in back alleys, adopt "personhood" which will > make certain birth control illegal and criminal, overturn Obamacare but > promises to keep pre-existing conditions clause (although it applies ONLY to > people who have had long-time insurance, not for new applicants with > pre-existing conditions!) and women will automatically be back at the status > of having pre-existing conditions just because they're women,just to > mention a few. > An American friend is retired in Belgium and my husband just came back from > Sweden - people there cannot believe that this is part of US politics! Even > though many European countries are Catholic or of other religions, they do > not meddle in people's bedrooms! > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Diane Rosenfeldt > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President > > Um, I don't think the guy who was President the last 4 years caused ANY of > the problems you mention. In fact, I know he didn't. I'm pretty sure in fact > that his predecessor did, and the "new person" is from that same party and > has that same agenda. We had the worst recession since 1929, and if you've > read any American History, that catastrophe took almost 10 years to recover > from, and that was with Congress more or less working together. > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Lisa Conner > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:26 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] President > > Ok.. you are profiling and that is just plain wrong:) If we have the past > 4 yours as the next 4 years, there will be a mass revolt. > Seriously, from mass job losses, no growth of our country, the division of > our country, we have to take a chance on a new person:) It can't get any > worse. That is my 2 cents! > > Now , back to our Felv + kitties. I am fairly new to this group and joined > because of losing my cat, Prancer. He lived for 9+ years, a very healthy > life. Then bang, like a
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I got the results back on Smokey today. He has fibrosarcoma. Has anyone had much experience with this type of cancer? Also, I spoke to the vet about the black salve and he said I could try it if I wanted to. I think Natalie was the one that posted about it. I need to find out what I need to do to join the group she spoke about and get some of the black salve. Cindy --- On Wed, 2/8/12, GRAS wrote: From: GRAS Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 9:41 AM You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was & how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there & me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS wrote: From: GRAS Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was & how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there & me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS wrote: From: GRAS Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] SmokeyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy & not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PMSubject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,Cindy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-Inline Attachment Follows- ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Smokey
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
Chris, I am so sorry to hear about your precious Romeo. Thank you for telling us his story. You gave him a home, love & wonderful life. I am so glad that there are people like you in this world that take care of these precious kitties. Cindy Reasoner --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 3:37 PM > It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my > Romeo today to > lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all > the newbies who > wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, > whether they know > enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. > And the > resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw > away stray that I > first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a > little colony > near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would > come running > across the field when I’d whistle and meow the whole way > so I wouldn’t miss > him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other > cats, bury > everybody’s food, and just rub up against my leg for some > loving. I knew > someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, > he’d scamper away, > just out of reach, cowering. > > > > Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY > winters we’ve had in > a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree > temps and a major > snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I > had to bring him > in. I even had an adoptive home ready—but he turned out > to be positive and > they couldn’t handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room > for a few weeks, > watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum > cleaner weren’t > that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at > night when he > thought I was asleep. Little baby steps—first the food > dish got moved next > to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And > slowly, he’d come > out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked > out over my > monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his > face—this is > niiice and from that point on, he was > totally > comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is > that he never > really wanted to get out—he rarely sat at the > window—the couch and the bed > were always much more comfortable for him! > > > > Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most > loving cat you’d ever > want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up > or restrain him > in any way---he was just too scared. But he’d jump up on > me, lie on my > chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around > like a puppy dog and > otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for > being safe and warm > and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and > Tucson never did take > much of a liking to him—all jealousy, I’m sure. But > Romeo persevered and > the two of them had come to terms with each other... > > > > His final illness took him quickly. He’d never been real > sick before—had > some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was > it. Going to > the vet was a major trauma for him so I’d always worked > with my wonderful > vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was > one of those days > that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. He’d been > feeling poorly during > the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very > hard—like he > couldn’t catch his breath. He’d been on antibiotics > for what I thought was > another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it > was a whole lot > more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty > hospital and they > confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, > his lungs had > filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and > physically, he could > never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in > all likelihood > would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I > made that decision > we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was > telling me it was > time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. > > > > And do I regret taking him in—ABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me > so many wonderful > memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he > regret coming > inside—ABSOLUTELY NOT—he had almost 5 years of a > wonderful life and I know > that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable > death from the cold > and hunger or an inf
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. It worked for him. I can't remember exactly how many shots they would fix up for me. I think it was anywhere from 10 to 12. It cost me around 20 to 30 dollars. I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have never tolerated them doing the IV. He hates the vets. I hope this will help. Cindy Reasoner --- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cindy, > Thank you for telling me that. I was picturing > taking him in to the vet > several times a week and them putting an IV into his > arm. I was even > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do > it. Obviously I know > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what > they do - if my vet even > does it. I have had to give cats things before > subq, so that would work > out. Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's > fevers? > Sue > - Original Message - > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise > > > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a > > problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix > the > > shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. > At > > first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the > shots > > less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. > Just > > thought I would let you know what my experience > with > > it has been. > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, > upset > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that > commercial). > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco > won't > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she > is > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball > the > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. > As > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. > I > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > >> kitchen now for notes. > >> L > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Lynne > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted > about > >> our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood > work > >> and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > >> coughing. I just don't know how none of this > >> concerned the previous owners. He's also > becoming a > >> ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many > different > >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks > his > >> nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat > likes > >> it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all > just > >> such a drain on one. > >> > >> Lynne > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Sue & Frank Koren > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > >> exercise > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to > run > >> around and play like a maniac - after all he is > only > >> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He > >> seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a > >> little raspy when he has been playing hard, but > >> maybe that is something that is normal for any > cat. > >> Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things > >> differently with him. Right now I have to decide > >> what will help him most and what I can afford. I > >> have already switched him to an all canned > Wellness > >> diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty > expensive. > >> I also have two boys in college that I have to > think > >> of also. > >> Do you know how many cats actually ever end > up > >> eventually testing negative with this? I guess &
Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey. He had a problem with fevers. It wasn't very expensive. I would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the shots up for me. I would keep them refrigerated. At first I did 2 a week. I gradually gave him the shots less and less. Now he doesn't get them at all. Just thought I would let you know what my experience with it has been. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset > stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial). > Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't > eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is > trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the > next day and she is back on track eating again. As > Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I > quickly forget which days things happen unless I > make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the > kitchen now for notes. > L > > - Original Message - > From: Lynne > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > exercise > > > Sue, I so know how you feel. I just posted about > our little guy coughing. I didn't believe the > positive test at first and asked for more blood work > and it's worse than I thought. Now every little > thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this > coughing. I just don't know how none of this > concerned the previous owners. He's also becoming a > ridiculously fussy eater. I've tried many different > can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his > nose up. Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes > it all so it isn't totally wasted. It is all just > such a drain on one. > > Lynne > - Original Message - > From: Sue & Frank Koren > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > exercise > > > Thank you for your advise. Yes, he love to run > around and play like a maniac - after all he is only > 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten. He > seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a > little raspy when he has been playing hard, but > maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. > Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things > differently with him. Right now I have to decide > what will help him most and what I can afford. I > have already switched him to an all canned Wellness > diet. The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. > I also have two boys in college that I have to think > of also. > Do you know how many cats actually ever end up > eventually testing negative with this? I guess > there is a part of me that is still in denial. He > tested negative when my brother first rescued him, > then he tested positive when he had the in-office > test at the vet when I got him. They then gave him > the blood test which was also positive. I think > April is when I will test him again. Meanwhile I > will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has > to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy > today that there isn't even a good view out the > window from his chair. > Sue > - Original Message - > From: Caroline Kaufmann > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM > Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and > exercise > > > I don't know about the IR, but as far as the > vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so > there's no need to stress yourself out about it now. > Now you know better tho and can better protect him > in the future by being better educated. > > And you are very to lucky to have found this > site so early on. I only got to it when Monkee was > in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost. > And I felt horrible when I realized all the > knowledge and information that was out there on the > internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. > I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted > and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed, > his beefy body would beat the odds. When I realized > I could have been more proactive with things- like > no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to > ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't > have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the > time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with > Monkee's sick condition. It's since his passing > that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself > to miss out o
Re: California
Yes, I feel so sorry for all the people there. I also worry about all of the animals. If there is anything we can do to help just let us know. Cindy Reasoner --- Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thinking of Nina and everyone in So California > who have been ravaged by these fires.and of all > the animals. > Please let us know if there is anyway we can help. > Jane > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Cindy & Smokey
I haven't been able to post in a long time. I haven't really been able to read any post but today I was able to read a few. I am not sure what is going on with this site but all I know is that many caring people on this site helped to save my precious Smokey. He is still doing good. I am sorry for any of you that might have lost any of your babies since I have been away. We lost our dog Elvis about 3 weeks ago and it has been very hard. He was 12 years old and had liver cancer. He had gotten really bad and we had to make that awful decision to have him euthanized. I took him a rawhide to eat before the doctor did it. I was able to spend some time alone with him before letting him go. I hugged him the whole time and told him how special he was. We didn't want to see him suffer and he was getting very close to that point. It was my first time to go through this. I am so glad now that I stayed with him until the end. Cindy Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: Ki is an Angel
Dede, I am so so sorry to hear about Ki. You are in my thoughts. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish I could say I deliberately did this. I swore > I > never would. When these 4 kitens came into foster > care, they neded a home for 2 of them...I got to > choose. I picked the 2 tabbies.After I had them 2 > weeks, I noticed Ki had 2 huge nodes in his neck. > We > treated that, and tested him...Surprise. I was > shocked and frightened. I'm not sure I would have > volontarity done this. I have 3 FIV cats. One of > them is diabetic, one has stomatitis. I have > another > with severe stomatitis, and one asthmatic. > > I go from day to day. Life is a gift. When I take a > furkid, it is a commitment for better or worse, in > sickness and in health so to speak. You cn't throw > them away because they are not pefect. > > I have been truly blessed by my fur-family > > Dede (who is sorry for the chit chat) > > > > --- Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And thank you. > > > > When I lost Serenity, I felt like the floor opened > > me up and swallowed me. > > > > Like I said, I had only had her 5 months, and my > vet > > and his wife (who have > > several felv+ cats, and Dr. Smith is constantly > > doing research, even @ 73 > > yrs.) warned me that when she becomes symptomatic, > > she could go very fast, > > it just depends. > > > > I was s glad they were there for me. > > > > Felv+, I have been told, can kill a cat so many > > different ways... > > > > Or, their body can go, but the mind is sharp as a > > tack. > > > > I have a good client that has only had felv+ cats, > > his limit is 3. > > > > The reason being, 4 is an unlucky number for him, > if > > he has 3 and gets a > > 4th, one dies really soon afterwards. > > > > He is an international pilot for UPS, and has been > > for 25+ yrs. (cha > > ching$) > > > > He is down to one felv+ cat, and he has "sworn > off". > > > > Ever seen a very big, macho Texas man cry like a > > baby while holding his cat > > @ the vet's? > > > > Not pretty. > > > > The good thing is, he only has been working 10 > days > > per month (10 days on, > > 20 days off), and when Chairman Meow leaves him, > he > > plans to work more and > > donate a lot more money. > > > > In otherwords, he has been just working his > minimum > > to be w/ his cats, but > > once they are all gone, he will fly more and of > > course, have more money. > > > > Right now he is a very big donor, always there for > > my "project kitties". > > > > When he retires in a few years, he really hopes to > > start a sanctuary, and he > > will have a lot of people to help him. > > > > I don't know, I have always said that, it takes a > > very special purrson to > > have a felv+ cat, unconditional love, also.. > > > > LOTS of people are even "afraid" of them. > > > > I recently had 2 people over on separate occasions > > that would not even enter > > my felv+ room, they just looked through the door. > > > > They were really afraid of taking it home to their > > cats. > > > > I understand that it is a very "delicate" > > virus > > > > I just call them my little "bubble > kitties". > > :)... > > Susan J. DuBose >^..^< > > www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com > > www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org > > www.shadowcats.net > > "As Cleopatra > lay > > in state, > >Faithful Bast > at > > her side did wait, > >Purring > welcomes > > of soft applause, > >Ever guarding > > with sharpened claws." > > > Trajan > > Tennent > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "dede hicken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 3:53 PM > > Subject: Re: Ki is an Angel > > > > > > Thanks Susan. I know you are right. One can only > > take so much exposure to Corona when your immune > > system is not so great. I just don't
Re: new here ~ feleuk+ cat with high temp
Laurie, My cat Smokey had the same problem with fevers. After many different stays in the hospital and 1 doctor at my vet's office that didn't really seem like she wanted to help Smokey I changed the vet he goes to. The new vet started him on the immunoregulin. She had me give it to him subq. It says IV but Smokey would have never let her or me do that. We started giving him injections 2 times a week for a month or so then gradually decreased the dosage. Now I give it to him once a month. It has been well over a year since he has had a fever. I hope this might help you with Isabella. I won't use Revolution anymore. Back in May we went camping and I took my diabetic cat (Katie) with us. I used it because I was worried about mosquitoes getting into the camper. This was the first time I had ever used it. I know Katie had a reaction to it because she developed diarrhea. She didn't have it before I put it on her. Her skin became really flaky too. I hope your Isabella starts feeling better soon. Cindy Reasoner --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. We rescued a one to two year old cat about 5 > weeks ago. She has had a temp anywhere from normal > (June 19) to 107 (June 26). Her blood work this week > indicates she has a low white blood count and is > also anemic. She has no other symptoms (other than > recent lethargy) and is still interested in food. > > We started interferon 7 days on/ 7 days off 2 1/2 > weeks ago. Isabella's temp was normal after the 7 > days on and 107 after 7 days off. The interferon was > started again 3 nights ago and today's temp was > 104.2. She has weighed 8.5, 8.4, 8.9 (10 days ago ~ > this was also the day her temp was normal). Tuesday, > June 26, she weighed 8.8 and today 8.7. She got > fluids Tuesday and today (Thursday). > > We are also giving her feline transfer factor. She > was on Clavamox for about a week and then switched > to Zeniquin( for about 16 days now) when her temp > was 105.5. Discontinued Zeniquin today and started > an anti-inflammatory (metacam, I believe) that she > will take for 3 days. > > She is a wonderful companion. Easy to care for. > Impeccable manners. Talks and purrs and plays when > she feels good. If anyone has suggestions about why > the temp and what to do about the temp, WBC and RBC, > we would be grateful. Thanks! > ps we applied Revolution May 23 and June 23. She > reacted with fur on end June 23. > > Laurie Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: Ambrose Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry to hear about Ambrose. Cindy Reasoner --- Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well we lost yet another precious handsome > guy.Ambrose went through so much in his life,he was > a hurricane Katrina cat,and was with us since just > after I started volunteering back in November > 2005.He was 10 years old when he first came to us.He > loved his Temptation treats and as soon as he would > see me with them that handsome gentle guy would meow > at me with the softest meow.I will miss Ambrose. :( > Thanks for your support, > Sherry > > > - > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in > alternative vehicles. > Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
Re: Suzie crossed the bridge
Kelley, I am so sorry for your losses. This is so terrible. You are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, he euthanized Lucky Lady at noon and sent a > sample of her liver off > for testing. So she's gone too... > > On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In a message dated 6/28/07 2:49:04 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > When a vet says a cat is positive for FIP he is > wrong, he may be positive > > and with high titers for the corona viruses that > are suspected to cause FIP > > but that doesn't in most cases mean he has FIP. > > > > *THANK YOU, BELINDA* > > *MY FEELINGS EXACTLY!* > > (And, I strongly believe w/ *all my heart*, that > my Puma does *not* have > > FIP. ) Also, I believe he *does* have high > titers for corona. > > He!!, I rescued him from a nasty [putting it > *mildly* ] high kill > > shelter And, the poor 'ole boy didn't even > stand a chance!!! He was > > *immediately* put on "Death Row" - *only because > of his seniority!* > > G. I'm just so happy I had "connections" > with the rescue > > community! [Just wish I still could be able to > "save" more like my boy. > > I have nightmares about all the poor babies that > face that horrific > > dilemma..] > > The toxo diagnosis I do believe. And, he > recovered 101%. But when I > > "questioned" my vet on the FIP, well, let's just > say, deep down, he *knew*I was right about the only > accurate diagnosis > > *is thru necropsy* > > Oh, and MC, I am with you... > > So *[too]* much misinformation floating > around And, I too am at *that > > point* - Seems like people want to believe all > that > > garbage. (At a point, even me > Having had an FIP epidemic > > w/ my fosters! ) > > Much thanks & hugs, > > Patti & her gang [*INCLUDING PUMA A > "MIRACULOUS RECOVERY" *Wasn't * > > aware* that FIP could last this long - on a very, > very senior boy!!! Now > > I can stop kicking myself in a$$*}* > > > > > > > > -- > > See what's free at AOL.com > <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503>. > > > > > > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > Please help Caroline! > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline > > I GoodSearch for Rescuties. > > Raise money for your favorite charity or school just > by searching the > Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - > powered by Yahoo! > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
Cassandra, I am so sorry that you lost your precious Tomi and Koda and Kisa. I can't imagine how hard this has been for you. Cindy Reasoner --- C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just lost my closest friend other than my > husband. Tomi and I have had a special bond ever > since my husband brought him home. My husband was > out walking the dog by the river in October of 2004, > on a cold and rainy day. There was a kitten crying > in the trees, cold and wet, and my husband couldn't > just leave him there. I wasn't impressed at first, > since we already had 4 cats, but Tomi quickly won me > over. I've had a very close bond with him ever > since. > > He was very timid at first, hiding whenever there > was a strange noise or person, we often wondered how > my husband was able to catch him to bring him home. > His tail had been broken at the end at one time too, > it sort of looked like a question mark when it was > straight up. Tomi quickly came around though and > trusted us, though he still always hid when any > strangers came to the house. > > Tomi was the type of loving boy that always > acknowledged your presence when you touched him or > talked to him...or even looked at him sometimes. He > never showed any signs of annoyance when I gave him > too many hugs/kisses, and never got angry. > > 3.5 months ago when I found out he was anemic and > had FeLV, I was devastated. I watched him slowly > decline for nearly 2 months until he crashed and I > was sure he would die. Amazingly he bounced back > and gave me another good 8 weeks with him. Except > during this time I had to watch Koda and Kisa > (Tomi's close buddy) get sick and die, so I didn't > get to spend as much time with my Tomi as I would > have liked. > > Then just a few days after Kisa died on June 12, > Tomi got sick and crashed again with the anemia. He > was having a hard time breathing, and again he > bounced back. Last week he had a huge appetite, > eating everything I gave him, and drank lots of > water. Yesterday, he started to crash again. > > Today, he was eating a little bit of liver I gave > him and still drinking, but his breathing was > becoming more labored. Then around noon, he began > panting, and I watched him die in a way that will > haunt me forever. He was so scared and crying > because he couldn't catch his breath. This is > absolutely the worse thing i've ever experienced. > > A huge part of the happiness in my life is now gone. > I guess i'll just wander around like a zombie for > awhile, and maybe the pain will eventually turn to > numbness. > > Thank you all for the support you've given me > through all of this. It looks like this ordeal that > has been going on nonstop since March 9 is now over. > > Cassandra Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php
Re: IR-sub Q???
Dede, I gave Smokey's IR subq. I know it says IV but so far the subq has worked with Smokey. Equistim is what I always got from my vet. I'm glad Wendy was able to give you the dosage because I gave Smokey the last shot I had in May and haven't gone to get anymore yet. I looked at the old syringe last night and his dosage was around .25 ml. He weighs around 8 lbs. There is no way I could do IV with Smokey either. I hope this works for Ki. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wendy, one other thing, my vet said the IR has to be > given IV. I heard on the list that youcan do it sub > Q. I canNOT do IV. Vet said she had never seen IR > work, but like everything else, it depends on the > cat > and the circumstances. > > Spud, my FIV had an HCT of 12 in Feb. Treated for > toxo, gave linotinic, prednisolone (for severe > stomatitis) and niacinamide. His HCT is 22 now. > Not > perfect, but doable. He eats like a pig now. > > BTW, m also giving Ki B 12 injections. Can't hurt. > > Dede > > > > --- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thank goodness for that! I hope that the IR > breaks > > those fevers. I have a good feeling, after > > witnessing > > Smokey's situation via Cindy, which was very > > touch-and-go, that things will be good for Ki too! > > > > :) > > Wendy > > > > --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you, Wendy. His fever keeps going up and > > down, > > > but not down enough. The IR should be here > > > tomorrow, > > > and so should the blood test results. He is > still > > > not > > > eating, but I am feeding him the liver shake. > > > Between > > > that, and the fluids he is nicely hydrated. She > > > also > > > put him on linotinic. > > > > > > I am trying to keep him cool, by sponging, and a > > > fan. > > > Wish I had a cooling blanket. He doesn't seem > any > > > worse, infact, he is moving around more. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > IR dosage for 8 lb. cat is .25 to .5 mL. The > > > > generic > > > > for IR that Revival Animal has is EqStim, I > > > believe. > > > > > > > > I think you have to get Epogen through your > vet, > > > but > > > > not sure on that. It goes under several names > > > > (Procrit, etc.) > > > > > > > > :) > > > > Wendy > > > > > > > > --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Just got back from the vet. She put him on > > > Delta > > > > > Albaplex. It has several antibiotics and > > > > > prednisolone. We are to use it for 5 days. > > > > > > > > > > Took blood. She said it looked thin. His > > gums > > > > are > > > > > OK, but it looks like he is amemic. > > > > > > > > > > I called Revival. The IR is only 5ml. How > > much > > > > do > > > > > you use at a time? > > > > > > > > > > Where do you get epogen and how much is it? > > Vet > > > > > didn't know about it. > > > > > > > > > > She is not optimistic, of course, but is > doing > > > her > > > > > best, I believe. > > > > > > > > > > Say a prayer for mylittle guy. > > > > > > > > > > Dede and Ki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When you are in the service of your fellow > > > > beings, > > > > > you are only in the service of your God" > > > > >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > > > > > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 > > > > >
Re: need advice quick
I just always got my IR from the vet. She would fix the dosage in the the syringes and I would just keep them refrigerated. I never really paid attention to the dosage. I will look tonight. You and Ki are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just got back from the vet. She put him on Delta > Albaplex. It has several antibiotics and > prednisolone. We are to use it for 5 days. > > Took blood. She said it looked thin. His gums are > OK, but it looks like he is amemic. > > I called Revival. The IR is only 5ml. How much do > you use at a time? > > Where do you get epogen and how much is it? Vet > didn't know about it. > > She is not optimistic, of course, but is doing her > best, I believe. > > Say a prayer for mylittle guy. > > Dede and Ki > > > > > > > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, > you are only in the service of your God" >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 > > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php
Re: Ki's fever is up again
It is a steroid. The vet gave Smokey this because she said it would help him to feel better and to feel like eating. He only got the Winstrol injections every 2 weeks about 3 times. When Smokey first started on the IR he had a fever. We gave him 2 injections per week for about a month and gradually decreased it. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is Winstrol? Is it for fever? BTW, I have > him > down to 103 with sponging his coat, and being by a > fan. He is also laying next to a cold pack. > He must be comfortable because he hasn't moved. ( > and > he CAN move whenhe sees that thermometer) > > He just ate a piece of raw liver!!! (Uck, but to > each > his own) > > Dede > > > --- cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just from my own experience with Smokey. He had > > high > > fevers like Ki and the vet started him on Winstrol > > to > > help him feel better and IR. I truly believe the > IR > > helped him get over the fevers. I gave it to him > > subq. I know it says IV but subq has worked so > far > > with him. > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am so frustrated. I can only give the metacan > > > 3x's > > > a week, and the stuff makes me jittery anyway. > > His > > > fever goes up and down. I have him laying next > to > > a > > > cold pack right now, and i have sponged him off. > > > > His > > > temp is 105.3...again. We have been out of that > > > range > > > for a few days. > > > > > > He won't eat, and i am giving him fluids. Went > to > > > the > > > store this AM and will try the famous liver > shake. > > > > > He > > > doesn't look anemic, though, just sick. > > > > > > We are going back to the vets at 2 today, and I > > told > > > them they need to do blood work...enough of this > > > crap. > > > Anybody know any other way to get a fever > down? > > > > > > > > > Please think of us. > > > > > > Dede and Ki > > > > > > "When you are in the service of your fellow > > beings, > > > you are only in the service of your God" > > >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the > > Internet > > > in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > that gives answers, not web links. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > > > > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, > you are only in the service of your God" >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with > the added security of spyware protection. > http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: Ki's fever is up again
Just from my own experience with Smokey. He had high fevers like Ki and the vet started him on Winstrol to help him feel better and IR. I truly believe the IR helped him get over the fevers. I gave it to him subq. I know it says IV but subq has worked so far with him. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am so frustrated. I can only give the metacan > 3x's > a week, and the stuff makes me jittery anyway. His > fever goes up and down. I have him laying next to a > cold pack right now, and i have sponged him off. > His > temp is 105.3...again. We have been out of that > range > for a few days. > > He won't eat, and i am giving him fluids. Went to > the > store this AM and will try the famous liver shake. > He > doesn't look anemic, though, just sick. > > We are going back to the vets at 2 today, and I told > them they need to do blood work...enough of this > crap. > Anybody know any other way to get a fever down? > > > Please think of us. > > Dede and Ki > > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, > you are only in the service of your God" >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet > in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: Ki just got back from vet
Dede, I would try the immuno regulin. It helped Smokey with his fevers. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. I have used Metacam before..know it is VERY > important to watch the dose. She thought it would > help bring his fever down. He is on Baytril, clin. > and an immune booster made by standard process. Not > eating well, and still has the fever. > > Dede > --- Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Dede, > >Be very careful with the metacam and keep an > eye > > out for anything > > that might suggest kidney problems, it is a > > dangerous drug and has been > > known to bring on Chronic Renal Failure. There > are > > several cats on the > > CRF group I'm on that have had this happen, one > > recently passed away > > from it. > > > > Not trying to scare you just letting you know. > Why > > is he on the metacam? > > > > -- > > > > Belinda > > happiness is being owned by cats ... > > > > Be-Mi-Kitties > > http://bemikitties.com > > > > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens > > http://adopt.bemikitties.com > > > > FeLV Candlelight Service > > http://bemikitties.com/cls > > > > HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] > > http://HostDesign4U.com > > > > > > > > BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] > > http://bmk.bemikitties.com > > > > > > > > > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, > you are only in the service of your God" >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
RE: overvaccination
I am one of the few peope that doesn't have a computer at home. I use my work computer. So it is difficult for me to do alot of research. Honestly after working on a computer all day I probably wouldn't want to get on one when I got home. Cindy Reasoner --- "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hear you Cindy. Speaking for myself I think > technology while truly > wonderful has also resulted in us having to work > harder and longer than > ever before (I never ever want a Blackberry-type > thing; I've used my > recntly-acquired cellphone ONCE)my poor brain > finds it impossible to > retain information these days even when I do read > up. Kerry M > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of cindy reasoner > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:50 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: overvaccination > > > All I know is what my vet told me. I guess I am the > idiot for trusting him. I will do research about > it. > I'm sorry I can't get on this site everyday to read > what people post. > > Cindy Reasoner > > --- MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. > > > > the "new" calici virus is neither new, nor a > virus. > > > > like FIP, what has occurred, very infrequently, > and > > only in hospital and > > shelter environments a FEW times since first > > identified is a MUTATED FORM OF > > ONE OF THE COMMON CALICI VIRUSES. each outbreak > has > > been a different form, > > which means that NO VACCINE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO > > PROTECT AGAINST THE NEXT > > FORM. > > > > why do you think there isn't an HIV vaccine > > yet?? > > > > this is a HUGE money-making scam by ft dodge. both > > phaewyrn and i have > > collected lots of data on this, and posted it to > the > > lists. please go back > > in archives and do real research. > > > > the avma DOES NOT CONSIDER THE FT DODGE VACCINE A > > CORE VACCINE. > > > > read the CURRENT vaccine protocol at the uc davis > > site, or any of the other > > vet school sites. please. > > > > i can post all the info on the calici virus when i > > have a chance--if anyone > > who still reads this list has the copy i sent out > a > > month or so ago, when ft > > dodge decided to capitalize on everyone's > > pet-food-recall panic, PLEASE post > > it AGAIN for people. > > > > MC who is, frankly, tired of repeating herself. > > > > On 6/21/07, MaryChristine > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The new calici virus, again, I think is scare > > tactics. > > > > > > > > The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft > Dodge > > is trying to make $ > > > > off it. They are the same ones who make the > FIP > > vaccine. I do not > > > > use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this > > is something my vet has > > > > never seen a case of, no one has been able to > > prove it even exists. > > > > > > > > If you want the most recent recommendations > for > > vaccines, go to the > > > > AAFP website and look. I believe they publish > > them yearly. > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, cindy reasoner < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I have had my cats vaccinated every year but > I > > need to > > > > > talk to my vet about it. I sure don't want > to > > take > > > > > any chances. Have any of you heard of this > > new strain > > > > > of calici virus? My vet sent a letter out > to > > all his > > > > > clients owned by cats. You have to go for a > > booster > > > > > then go back in 3 weeks for the last shot. > > The letter > > > > > said that the cat didn't have to come in > > contact with > > > > > the infected cat. We can bring it in to > them. > > It is > > > > > highly contagious and a perfectly healthy > cat > > can die > > > > > within days if exposed. My vet was even > > considering > > > > > making it mandatory that all of their feline > > clients > > > > > be vaccinated for this. He t
Re: overvaccination
All I know is what my vet told me. I guess I am the idiot for trusting him. I will do research about it. I'm sorry I can't get on this site everyday to read what people post. Cindy Reasoner --- MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. > > the "new" calici virus is neither new, nor a virus. > > like FIP, what has occurred, very infrequently, and > only in hospital and > shelter environments a FEW times since first > identified is a MUTATED FORM OF > ONE OF THE COMMON CALICI VIRUSES. each outbreak has > been a different form, > which means that NO VACCINE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO > PROTECT AGAINST THE NEXT > FORM. > > why do you think there isn't an HIV vaccine > yet?? > > this is a HUGE money-making scam by ft dodge. both > phaewyrn and i have > collected lots of data on this, and posted it to the > lists. please go back > in archives and do real research. > > the avma DOES NOT CONSIDER THE FT DODGE VACCINE A > CORE VACCINE. > > read the CURRENT vaccine protocol at the uc davis > site, or any of the other > vet school sites. please. > > i can post all the info on the calici virus when i > have a chance--if anyone > who still reads this list has the copy i sent out a > month or so ago, when ft > dodge decided to capitalize on everyone's > pet-food-recall panic, PLEASE post > it AGAIN for people. > > MC who is, frankly, tired of repeating herself. > > On 6/21/07, MaryChristine > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > The new calici virus, again, I think is scare > tactics. > > > > > > The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft Dodge > is trying to make $ > > > off it. They are the same ones who make the FIP > vaccine. I do not > > > use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this > is something my vet has > > > never seen a case of, no one has been able to > prove it even exists. > > > > > > If you want the most recent recommendations for > vaccines, go to the > > > AAFP website and look. I believe they publish > them yearly. > > > > > > On 6/21/07, cindy reasoner < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have had my cats vaccinated every year but I > need to > > > > talk to my vet about it. I sure don't want to > take > > > > any chances. Have any of you heard of this > new strain > > > > of calici virus? My vet sent a letter out to > all his > > > > clients owned by cats. You have to go for a > booster > > > > then go back in 3 weeks for the last shot. > The letter > > > > said that the cat didn't have to come in > contact with > > > > the infected cat. We can bring it in to them. > It is > > > > highly contagious and a perfectly healthy cat > can die > > > > within days if exposed. My vet was even > considering > > > > making it mandatory that all of their feline > clients > > > > be vaccinated for this. He told me about a > vet in the > > > > northeast that had an infected cat come in and > I think > > > > he said that vet's office couldn't have any > cats in > > > > there for something like 45 days until they > > > > disinfected the office and were sure there was > no more > > > > danger from exposure. I have 8 cats and I > just got > > > > through with the 2nd shot for all of them. > This > > > > disease just sounded to scary to take a > chance. All > > > > of my cats are inside cats. They never go > out. I > > > > think where I live (Tennessee)it is a law that > you > > > > have to have your pets vaccinated for rabies. > I am > > > > not sure though. > > > > > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > > > --- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I lost my Felicity to vaccine-related fibro > sarcoma > > > > > > http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/felicity.html > > > > > > > > > > They've changed the vaccine now, > however...there is > > > > > less risk. There is > > > > > still risk, however. > > > > > > > > > > I can tell you though that with an > aggressive fibro > > > > > sarcoma, amputating the > > > > > paw ca
Re: Smokey and Cindy
I am so glad that I found this site. All the info. I got was so helpful. All the wonderful people on this site saved Smokey's life. I remember one of his old vets was talking to me about having Smokey euthanized but I just couldn't do that. I was so discouraged because I didn't know what to do. The people on this site gave me so much support and I really appreciate all of you. Smokey still is skinny and I wish I could put some weight on him. He is so active now. He plays with his toys and gives me love bites. This site and the people on it are truly amazing. Cindy Reasoner --- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Cindy, > > I was just thinking about your Smokey and I remember > you coming here (a year ago?) and what bad shape he > was in with the fevers. It's amazing the > advancements > in medicine. And Smokey possibly owes his life to > the > Internet, because had you not found the info. here > regarding the IR, he could have succumbed to the > fevers. Isn't everything just so amazing?!!! I am > so > glad Smokey is doing well. > > :) > Wendy > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful > committed citizens can change the world - indeed it > is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret > Meade ~~~ > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers > from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it > out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > > Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: overvaccination
I have had my cats vaccinated every year but I need to talk to my vet about it. I sure don't want to take any chances. Have any of you heard of this new strain of calici virus? My vet sent a letter out to all his clients owned by cats. You have to go for a booster then go back in 3 weeks for the last shot. The letter said that the cat didn't have to come in contact with the infected cat. We can bring it in to them. It is highly contagious and a perfectly healthy cat can die within days if exposed. My vet was even considering making it mandatory that all of their feline clients be vaccinated for this. He told me about a vet in the northeast that had an infected cat come in and I think he said that vet's office couldn't have any cats in there for something like 45 days until they disinfected the office and were sure there was no more danger from exposure. I have 8 cats and I just got through with the 2nd shot for all of them. This disease just sounded to scary to take a chance. All of my cats are inside cats. They never go out. I think where I live (Tennessee)it is a law that you have to have your pets vaccinated for rabies. I am not sure though. Cindy Reasoner --- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I lost my Felicity to vaccine-related fibro sarcoma > http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/felicity.html > > They've changed the vaccine now, however...there is > less risk. There is > still risk, however. > > I can tell you though that with an aggressive fibro > sarcoma, amputating the > paw can prolong the life but it cannot save it. > Felicity had her leg > amputated. A very sad and heart-wrenching story. > The survival rate even > for humans with this type of cancer is abysmal. > > I'm glad to hear there is on-going research. > > It's a difficult call. Some vaccines are formulated > to be given every three > years. Others are formulated for every year. Many > say you don't want to > give a vaccine yearly formulated vaccine every 3 > years. There have also > been tests that indicate the three year vaccines are > less effective. I'm > told that currently the best way to ensure you > aren't over vaccinating is > to have blood work done for titers...but you could > still end up paying for > that test and still have to pay for the vaccine too. > > My vet doesn't like to vaccinate immuno-compromised > or geriatric cats. I > confess that I am very shell-shocked from my > experience with Felicity...and > I do not have my cats vaccinated every year. It > might make more sense to > have them vaccinated more often if they were outdoor > types. I really think > that if we still had FeVL+ babies living with us, I > would have them > vaccinated more often. > > I've lost babies to the vaccine - and I've lost a > baby to FeVL+. Both are > heart-wrenching. > > elizabeth > > > On 6/21/07, Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > The risk of vaccination and sarcoma is not > inconsequential. > > Many veterinarians have altered their vaccination > protocols to > > every three years because recent studies that have > indicated we are > > over vaccinating our animals. In many instances > one vaccination > > can protect an animal for its lifetime, and > revaccination and boosters > > are driven by the economics of a practice and > pharmaceutical companies. > > > > Dr Jean Dodds DVM and Ronald Schultz DVM are now > conducting the 'Rabies > > Challenge" > > research, which is an effort to prove that one > rabies vaccination is > > sufficient for > > the lifetime of an animal. > > > > I did not intend to get into a vaccination > discussion, other than to > > say it is prudent to > > research the type and frequency of vaccinations. > There are many > > practices that now > > inoculate cats just above the paw, so that in the > event of a sarcoma, > > the paw can be amputated > > and the animals life saved. > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Melissa Lind wrote: > > > > > I had heard that on the radio or > something--about not needing > > > vaccinations > > > every year. If I don't have to put them through > the stress...I think > > > I'll > > > approach my new vet about the distemper. I guess > my reasoning for not > > > vaccinating the youngest is simply because she > doesn't ever go > > > outside. She > > > doesn't even sneak out, or try to sneak out. The > chances of her > > > getting FeLV >
Re: Questions about FeLV treatments
I used immuno regulin on my Smokey when he was having high fevers. The vet also gave him injections of Winstrol every other week for about a month or maybe a little longer. The immuno regulin helped Smokey. He hasn't had a fever since we started him on it (fingers crossed). I give it to him subq not IV. Smokey hates the vet so much I don't think they could even give it to him IV. He gets worst every visit. Now I give it to him every month or every other month. I did read hear that I think it is Best Friends uses it every month on their babies. I think I will do every month now. That is the only treatment I have used on Smokey. So far the only problem he has had was the fevers. I hope this might help you. Cindy Reasoner --- Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to decide what the best treatment would > be for > my cat (MeMe) who has 'moderate, but improving > symptoms' of FeLV. > (we are having success with stomatitis and giardia, > but still have some > swollen glands and a runny nose). > > I asked one vet that I use to order Virbagen Omega > for me. > This is her response to my request: > > > Jane, The info on this is not encouraging. Besides > the expense, the > > European vets don't feel it's a cure all. Here's > a brief summary of > > the one study: J vet Int Med July-Aug 2004. > "Therapeutic Effects of > > recombinant feline interferon-omega on > felv-infected and felv/fiv > > infected symptomatic cats" > > Recombinant feline interferon omega or felv and > felv/fiv cats compared > > to 42 controls, 39 Ifn treated cats at 9 ms, > mortality was 39% in the > > Ifn cats, 59% in controls; at 1yr, mortality was > 47% v.59%. > > Ifn treatment gave minor but consistent > improvement in blood > > parameters (rbc count, wbc count). > > So: statistical improvement but half still died by > 1 year. Dr.E > > I have just read an article that was referenced on > the Feline Leukemia > site by Dr. Karen Thomas who was > promoting the use of ImmunoRegulin. The article is > not dated, and it is > not clear if the information is current, > or if there is any connection to interferon. > > Is there anyone who has experience with these > treatments, or could > direct me to someone who does? > Thanks very much > > Jane > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: Ki still has a fever
Dede, My cat Smokey was having a problem with fevers about a 1 1/2 years ago. The vet would give him baytril but his fever would only come back. I ended up changing vets with him. The new vet started him on immuno-regulin and winstrol injections. The winstrol (I think that was the name of it) was just to help him start feeling better. I think he went every 2 weeks to get that shot. We only did that for about a month or maybe a little longer. The immuno-regulin I gave him at home. At first we started him on 2 shots a week for about a month or so. After that we went to 1 shot per week and gradually decreased the times he would get the shots. Now he gets a shot every other month. He hasn't had any fevers since we started him on it. I hope this might help with your Ki. I hope he starts feeling better soon. Cindy Reasoner --- dede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, the vet is out for the day. This is only the > 2nd day of baytril. His fever is 104, and he won't > eat. Seems to be drinking, though. He is a stinker > to feed. > > The vet doesn't carry any probiotics. Where cn i > get > the fortiflora (sp)?.. Any ideas on how to bring the > fever down? I have a few meds here. > > I HATE it when they are sick!!! > > Dede > > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, > you are only in the service of your God" >Mosiah 2:17 > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ > > Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
Re: Cat on immunoregulin
I have had a little experience with immunoregulin. The vet gave it to my Smokey because he kept on running a very high fever. It seemed to help him. I don't know anything about the other meds. Sorry. I hope he starts feeling better and that he doesn't have lymphoma. Cindy Reasoner --- Nazleen Rahmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the tip Sheryl. I will get him tested for > diabetes on his next > visit coming up this thursday. The vet gave him > shots of baytril, betamox > and dexafort alongside the immunoregulin. Anybody > had any experience with > the above meds? > > Thanks. > > > >From: Sheryl Spagg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: Cat on immunoregulin > >Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:27:20 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I don't have anything on the kidneys for you, I do > >have a warning about the steroid shots...watch for > >diabetic symptoms because they have been known to > >cause it...more drinking, more peeing, weight > loss...I > >have 2 cats with Diabetes and am a member of a > message > >board and I can't tell you how many cats contracted > it > >from steroid shots...so just be careful... > >Sheryl > > > > > >--- Nazleen Rahmat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I brought my cat in for an ultrasound yesterday > to > > > check on his kidneys and > > > his stomach. Lately, he's not been eating very > much > > > and he has been having > > > bad constipation. He's had constipation his > whole > > > life - he'll normallly > > > have to run around the house for a while before > > > he'll make a trip to his > > > liter tray to poop. > > > > > > Anyways, the vet found a suspicious looking lump > in > > > his small intestine. He > > > thinks it could be lymphoma. He said to not do a > > > biopsy as yet as he would > > > rather treat him to build up his immune system > to > > > see if he'll respond to > > > this. The prognosis given on his kidneys is > fair, my > > > vet says Abu (that's my > > > sweetheart's name) can live for many years with > his > > > kidneys being the way > > > they are. He gave Abu a steroid and > immunoregulin > > > injection yesterday and > > > I'm to follow up giving him this twice a week on > top > > > of some herbal > > > remedies. He'll also start Abu on Silver > Collagen > > > soon. > > > > > > Can anyone help me explain what could be > happening? > > > I'm so worried I don't > > > know what to do now. He was eating well > yesterday > > > and he's eating today. > > > He's generally still a very happy cat. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Leen and Abu > > > > > > > >_ > > > Receive MSN Hotmail alerts over SMS! > > > > http://en-asiasms.mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=1002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The fish are biting. > >Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search > Marketing. > >http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php > > > > _ > Get the new Windows Live Messenger! > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
Re: pet-food recall info
I finally got 3 of my cats to eat the Evo. Katie's (my diabetic cat)true brother Simon was diagnosed as being diabetic on Sunday so the vet said I needed to get him to eat the Evo because it is low carbs. Katie won't touch it but Simon, Nick and Tabby Cat are starting to eat it now. I can't believe I have 2 diabetic cats and Nick is another true brother so eventually I may have 3. I am so relieved they are eating the EVO especially Simon because it is better for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You forgot the crackers and mayonnaise! > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > > I tried some Evo last night (entirely > accidentally) but the cats love > > it, except Sugar, who I don't think realizes it is > food. > > > > On 5/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks MC. It would be much easier if a list was > compiled with > >> brands and > >> foods that have been verified by testing to be > safe. I have 3 cases of > >> Triumph wet food, (not the particular flavors on > the list), that I'm now > >> afraid to feed. I'd eat them myself over > crackers, but I'm not sure how > >> much I'd like beef and salmon combined together, > (maybe a little > >> mayonnaise). Pretty soon some adventurer will > start selling > >> home-testing > >> kits we can use before we set the food bowls > down. > >> Nina > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Herbie is gone......
Tracy, I am so sorry to hear about your precious Herbie. Cindy --- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm so sorry Tracy. > tonya > > Tracy Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Herbie was in a lot of distress at home and so I > took him to the emergency > vet (also the place that just saw him on Friday), > even after being > stabilized in oxygen, he continue to go down hill. > His heart was enlarged > and we were very limited in what diagnostics could > be done in light of the > stress on the heart (couldn't give him fluids) and > then his inability to > drawn air in..The new X-rays shows spots on the > lungs and poss. fluid, > the lymph nodes were still very large. > > So, with a poor prognosis, and the fact that he > would not be able to > survive surgery or sedation, I decided to let him > go. When I went back to > see him, I knew immediately it was the right thing > to do--he looked awful, > even with the oxygen, he was really struggling to > breatheHe went as > soon as the sedation was given, he was gone before > the lethal fluid was > even given. > > I will miss Herbie--he was such a love bug--hence, > his name. He liked to > lie next to other cats and put his "arms" around > them. > > Tracy > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fwd: [feline-hyperT] OT:Natural Balance-NEW RECALL-Ocean Fish CANNED For Cats & 3 Canned For Dogs
Is this never going to end? Natural Balance said that American Nutrition added rice protein concentrate without telling them. Oh, this makes me feel so much better! I wonder how many other foods have this in it and its not listed under the ingredients. Cindy Reasoner --- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful > committed citizens can change the world - indeed it > is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret > Meade ~~~ > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: moonpye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:43:18 -0400 > Subject: [feline-hyperT] OT:Natural Balance-NEW > RECALL-Ocean Fish CANNED For > Cats & 3 Canned For Dogs > > Our canned manufacturer, American Nutrition, from > Ogden Utah just informed > us that they are recalling all canned products made > in their plant that > contain rice protein concentrate. American Nutrition > continued by telling us > that they added this ingredient to four of our > canned products without > informing us. The four products involved are: > > *Chicken Formula Canned Dog Food 13 oz > Lamb Formula Canned Dog Food 13 oz > Beef Formula Canned Dog Food 13 oz > Ocean Fish Formula Canned Cat Food 3 oz & 6 oz* > ** > http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/ > > Same ingredient (rice protein concentrate) different > manufacturer (American > Nutrition). However "rice protein" is not listed in > the ingredients for any > of these recalled products. > http://www.itchmo.com/ > > > > Candace > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [feline-hyperT] OT:Natural Balance-Melamine
Patti, please don't feel like you are alone. I get upset too. I get so mad that what we are feeding our babies might poison them. I have several cats and 2 dogs. Many are on different diets so it seems like I am constantly rechecking labels when something new comes out. I just switched the dogs to California Natural I hope it is O.K. I am like you I do research and try to find a good safe food but now days who knows! I am having a problem with getting the cats to eat anything new. I am going to just continue feeding them what I have because so far nobody seems like they are sick. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I worry about all the food that I am feeding. I know how upsetting it is but please know that everybody knows how you feel. Hang in there. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No replys??? > I'm going crazy and w ALL OTHER major "PROBLEMS, I > certainly don't need > any more. > I'm on the"brink" and that's putting it > "mildly". > My babies are my life, the entire reason I'm still > here NO DOUBT, > whatsoever. > And, when I "thought" I was giving them the best... > Now I am just not too > sure. And I "researched", lot of good that did, > huh? > You just never know.. > Just had to vent and ask [please, please, please], > for someone - anyone, to > respond. > This whole recall is driving all of us nuts, I DO > understand, > But w/ being a [multi] cat/dog "Mom", I am going > over the edge. And > that's NOT a good thing. (Have enough other > problems, don't need anymore - > for sure.) > My babies keep me going..And I need that > desperately. (It's just about a > year & NO improvement. Probably getting > worseAnd, it seems all my MANY > Dr.s have given up.0h, I do try to "think > positive - NOT EASY!!! > Once again, I apologize for venting... > Hugs > > Patti & her gang (My life, my love muffins) > > > > > ** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today
Tomi is so beautiful! The one of him with Kisa is just so adorable. I will be praying for both of you. Cindy Reasoner --- Diane Rosenfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beautiful! My best vibes to Tomi. > > Diane R. > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of C & J > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:25 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: A couple of pictures I took of Tomi today > > > I took these pictures today of my little Tomi boy: > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0053.jpg > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/DSCF0037.jpg > > > And here is an older pic of Tomi and Kisa (my other > Felv baby) together: > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/Fyrwulf/TomiKisa.jpg > > > Cassandra > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help
Oh, she sounds so sweet and it is so sad that she was trying to find security in anybody's car! I hope you find her a home or who belongs to her. I love black cats. My Thomaseena was black and lived to be about 18 years old. I grew up with her. When she died I lost my best friend. My diabetic cat (Katie) is black and she holds a very special place in my heart. Is someone taking care of her until then? Did you say she was declawed? It isn't cheap to have a kitty declawed. You would think somebody cared about her. I will be praying that you find this poor sweet girl's home or a new home. Cindy Reasoner --- Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debbie, I bet Nina meant that some people are > superstitious or believe old > wives tales (bad luck if a black cat crosses your > path, etc.). Funny that > this post occurred on Friday the 13th! Double > superstitions! I just saw a > beautiful, silky, short hair all black cat roaming > our back yard. I called > to it from our deck, but it had better things to do! > I personally am not > superstitious about black cats, but I do throw > spilled salt over my left > shoulder! :) Melissa > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Debbie > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help > > out of curiosity - why would a cat have a strike > against her for being > black? I'm curious. > > -Original Message- > >From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Apr 13, 2007 4:24 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: sweet kitty in sw Michigan needs help > > > >Hi Nan, > >I took the liberty of changing the subject line of > your post to better > >indicate what it's about. What a little love this > girl sounds like! > >Poor angel on her own with no front claws trying to > get into the safety > >a human's car. It makes me want to go and scoop > her up myself, (I won't > >even mention that to Bruce or my overcrowded > household). > > > >Who has the cat right now? Has anyone posted > flyers at the campground > >in case she accidently became lost from her people? > Someone might be > >heartbroken and looking for her as I type this. > Are you checking local > >papers for lost ads? Has someone posted a found ad > in the paper near > >where the campgrounds are? They should also file a > found report with > >the local animal shelter and ask if anyone has > reported her missing to > >the shelter. > > > >She does have a strike against her because she's > black, (I personally > >love black cats), but she has quite a rescue story > and that might help > >to find her a home. The very best to you and this > sweet baby, please > >let us know what happens to her. Hey... Wasn't > there just someone very > >nice on this list that was thinking about adopting > a neg cat??? Who was > >that? Wasn't it Marissa?? Marissa, did you end up > adopting more cats > >yet?? > >Nina > > > >Nan Gelman wrote: > >> hi all, > >> > >> It has been a while since I have posted to this > site, but I need some > help is there anyone in southwest Michigan who would > like to adopt a very > sweet all black female sprayed kitty cat. This kitty > was found in a camp > grounds trying to get in to anyone's car that she > could. She is about a year > old sprayed and front declawed. She tested negative > for both FELV and FIV > She is very sweet and gentle. Please let me know > asap. > >> > >> Thanks so much > >> > >> Nan > > > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Purina cat foods
Kerry, I have been checking to see if there is any news regarding Purina. I haven't found anything on Fancy Feast, Friskies or Cat Chow. I talked to a lady with Purina on Saturday and she said that only the can Alpo dog food was being recalled along with Might Dog pouches. I can't remember the variety of the Alpo dog food. She told me there wouldn't be anymore of their food being recalled because they have checked and are sure none of their other sites used this wheat gluten. I hope she is right. Cindy Reasoner --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > I have been checking everywhere and haven't found > any purina cat foods that have been recalled.. I > feed fancy feast to Inky and Hills k/d. Also, I > feed cat chow and friskies to the outside kitties..I > haven't seen anything on 9-lives either..Please let > me know if this info is correct.. > This is so scary..Hope all your kitties are doing > well. > Kerry, Inky, and Angel Bandy > > > - > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: Nutro Max tainted...
Yes they do. To make matter worst my Katie is diabetic so I have to feed her a low carb. food. She likes Fancy Feast but I am still nervous feeding it to her. Although, none of my crew have acted like they are sick (fingers crossed). I will try the Felidae and Artemis and see if they will eat it. I told my husband that I couln't believe they wouldn't eat this food that is suppose to be so much better than the ones you buy at the grocery store. I drove 45 minutes to get this food for them and they just snubbed their little noses at it. Thanks for the help. Cindy Reasoner --- Susan Tillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:27:15 -0700 (PDT) cindy > reasoner > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I went Saturday and bought some cans of Wellness > and > > Evangers for my cats. Of course they wouldn't eat > the > > stuff. I want to feed them better foods but they > > won't eat it. Any ideas? > > Cindy, > > My cat, Shane, doesn't like Wellness canned (any > flavor), Innova Evo canned > or Merrick canned. A couple of brands I've found > that he likes (at the > moment, anyway) are Felidae (I'm not crazy about > feeding that because it > contains grain) and Artemis. Of course, since cats > have such variable tastes > in foods, who knows if your crew will like these! > These kitties keep us > hopping, don't they? LOL > > Sue and Shane > Jerome, AZ > > > Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
Re: Nutro Max tainted...
I went Saturday and bought some cans of Wellness and Evangers for my cats. Of course they wouldn't eat the stuff. I want to feed them better foods but they won't eat it. Any ideas? Thanks, Cindy Reasoner --- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have the ingredients list for the > varieties of Nutro Max > that were third party tested? (Nutro Max gourmet > classics: Chicken > Cacciatore, California Chicken Supreme and Lamb & > Turkey Cutlets). I > wish the article would have told us outright if they > have wheat gluten > in them, (thanks Chris for posting it). I'm staying > away from anything > with wheat gluten period, (recall list or no recall > list). It kills me > that the majority of media coverage is still quoting > the FDA about "15 > confirmed" deaths. I understand the cya type of > bureaucracy involved, > but couldn't they give the public a hint about just > how widespread this > situation really is? I'm still coming across > clients that haven't a > clue about how dangerous it is to feed pet food > without reading the label. > Nina > > Chris wrote: > > > > It doesn't end---privately arranged testing shows > melanite in canned > > Nutro Max... Aren't these companies doing any > testing!!! > > > > > > > > http://origin.marinij.com/marin/ci_5631579 > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: Dry food recall
I have a diebetic cat that is very picky. She won't eat Innova EVO so I try to buy food that is hight protein and low carbs. I have found many of Fancy Feast food work for her and she will eat it. I am worried about feeding it to her because most have wheat gluten in it. Any advice? Cindy Reasoner --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got it locally at Guy's Farm and Yard in > Montpelier, VT... but you can use the > Merrick website to locate a store near you, that's > what I did. > http://www.merrickpetcare.com/locator/ > > Phaewryn > > Where did you get it? > > On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Merrick canned I am feeding does not have > wheat gluten in it. > > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
Re: Too much bad news
Jennifer, I am sorry to hear that Midnight has passed away. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh Jennifer, I'm so sorry your Midnight has gone on. > You're right, > there's so much sad news in our world lately. Thank > you for letting us > know about Norman. If you posted to the list about > adopting him, I must > have missed it. I'm so glad to hear he is doing > well. You are very > brave and good to open your heart to him. I'm sure > Midnight will be > watching over you both. It's so sad and sweet that > he choose to leave > this world cuddled up next to you in your bed. > You've mentioned your > little boy, how is he doing with Midnight's death? > He's so little, does > he understand what's happened? How is your husband > doing with > Midnight's loss? I remember you saying that he had > to be encouraged to > take Midnight in. > Hugs and blessings to your family in your grief, > prayers of good health > and long life to Norman, > Nina > > > Jennifer Madon wrote: > > I hate to add to the bad news but I just want > everyone to know that I > > lost Midnight over the weekend. He had started > throwing up a lot on > > Thursday. He seemed a little slower than normal > but he had no other > > symptoms. I woke up Sunday morning about 4 am to > find him curled up > > beside me but he was gone. Thank you to everyone > on this list. You > > have all been so great and helpful. > > Jennifer Madon > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
Re: Dry food recall
I am feeding some of my cats Fancy Feast and Friskies and the other 3 I am feeding 9lives. Now I don't know what to do. It all has wheat gluten in it. I was able to find some Fancy Feast (fish cans) that didn't have wheat gluten in it. My cats are so finicky they won't eat the same flavor twice in 1 day. Is there any food out there that doesn't have this in it. I feed the dogs Pedigree and read the lables on the cans yesterday and there are some which don't contain wheat gluten but I don't know what to do about the cats. I am scared that by the end of this week Fancy Feast, Friskies and 9 Lives will be recalled. I do have 1 cat that is on Hills S/D but I read the label and there is no wheat gluten in it. This is an outrage. I am so mad that these companies purchase this from a supplier that used China. I mean China doesn't care about their animials so why should they care about our pets! I wish there was someway to find out where they buy their ingredients at so in the future if any came from China I would know not to buy it. I did call Hills Saturday morning and told them that I would discontinue buying their product if they kept on buying any ingredients from China. The lady told me most of the calls they were getting were saying the same thing. I am going to try to get through to Purina and Del Monte to tell them the same thing. Maybe if enough people tell them this they won't do this anymore in the future. I just can't believe that your taking a chance with your furbabies life just by feeding them. Cindy Reasoner --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > I am sort of behind times for the most part, but I > haven't seen this listed anywhere..not any purina > foods, dry or wet...I feed fancy feast to Inky and > friskies to ferals.. > So that might be a good thing...Please let me know > if I need to look at this some more.. > Hope all your kitties are well today. > Kerry, Inky and Angels Bandy, Buster, Lil Rascal > and Snoopy > > > - > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and > previews at Yahoo! Games. It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!!
I would like to know who might have bought wheat from China too. Friday afternoon when I got home from work I called 9lives and Friskies to ask them this question. Both told me they don't purchase their wheat from China. I hope that is true. Cindy Reasoner --- Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be careful with forwarding unconfirmed reports like > this. There is mention of unconfirmed problems with > Iams dry on http://www.howl911.com/ but until lab > analysis it is too easy to spread rumors and create > unnecessary fear. > > I personally am avoiding anything that has been > manufactured by Menu Foods. And I'd like to know > who else may have received wheat from China in > recent months. > > Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was forwarded to me by some one I > personally know and know is reliable: > > This was just forwarded to me it's > apparently not just wet food making pets sick > ** > > Hello everyone, > > I just wanted to give you a little more info on the > food recall. > > I was feeding Nutro Max small bites (DRY) to my 3 > Aussies and 1 Corgi. For the last 3 weeks on and off > all 4 dogs have vomited yellow bile. I did not think > much of it because it was on and off...maybe they > were eating snow...whatever. Then the recall...only > wet? > > My brother called me on Sunday on the way back from > the Rescue show and his 10 yr old Sheltie spayed > bitch was vomiting bile on and off for a few days > and now has blood in her urine. They brought in a UA > and dog is being treated for a UA infection. > > Yesterday he called me and his male-13 month old > German Shepherd has blood in its urine...guess > what...feeding DRY Nutro Max. Another UA to vets. No > infection. > > The dispatcher at the police department where I work > over heard me > talking to my brother...she has 2 mixes on Nutro > Ultra DRY...they have been vomiting bile on and off > for about 4 weeks. > > A women in my obedience class...her mother has a > Terrier on Nutro All Natural DRY...dog is being > treated for blood in urine. > > The dispatcher called the FDA today and spoke with > Bill Boiven (Spelling) at 781-596-7783. She gave > him all our info and he contacted me. Guess what!!! > They have already started to launch an investigation > on the dry dog food. They are getting millions of > phone calls about this. He did tell me that the > foods are processed by 2 different manufactures but > this is way to coincidental. > > Yes I have now put my dogs on boiled rice, > hamburger and Wellness. Just thought some of you > might want to know and maybe call if you are having > problems. Seems to be more wide spread than wet or > canned. > > Thanks > Alicia Campbell > Moonstone Shepherds > > > I found this on the FDA's website: > > New England District, (NWE-DO) , One Montvale > Ave., 4th Floor, Stoneham, MA 02180 Main Number > (781) 596-7700, Emergency (after hours) Answering > Service (781) 939-2380, Main FAX (781) 596-7896 > Gail T. Costello, District Director, HFR-NE200, > (781) 596-7717 FAX (781) 596-7896 > Mutahar Shamsi, Dir. Comp. Branch, HFR-NE240, > (781) 596-7899 > Linda Muccioli, Dir. MPSB., HFR-NE230, (781) > 596-7896 > Mary B. Yebba, Public Affairs Specialist, > HFR-NE245, (781) 596-7896 > Michael R. Kravchuk, Dir. Invest. Branch, > HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7799 FAX (781) 596-7896 > William S. Boivin, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) > 596-7783 FAX (781) 596-7896 > Sylvia A. Craven, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) > 596-7718 FAX (781) 596-7868 > Gary J. Hagan, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) > 596-7734 FAX (781) 596-7896 > Frank J. Mazzoni, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) > 596-7785 FAX (781) 596-7896 > Christopher VanTwuyver, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, > (781) 596-7754 FAX (781) 596-7896 > http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/iom/IOMORADIR_2.html > > > > > > > > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
Here I go on my rant about can't we buy anything that is made in the good ol U.S.A. anymore? Why are they buying wheat from China? I know we have wheat in this country. Oh, I know it was cheaper. I wonder where companies that weren't on the recall list bought their wheat. This worries me. Could it be from the same place? Cindy Reasoner --- Stray Cat Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No excuse for this, no matter what. Hope they get > the pants sued off them. > > _ > Your friends are close to you. Keep them that way. > http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
Re: petfood recall questions
I saw where Science Diet is doing a voluntary recall on their Feline Savory Cuts because it was co-manufactured by Menu Foods. I just called because I have a dog on Hills K/D and a cat on Hills X/D. I wanted to be sure that Menu Foods wasn't involved in these foods in anyway. I was assured they were not. The rest of my crew eat Friskies (Fancy Feast), 9Lives and Pedigree. This is getting scary. Who knows what is safe anymore. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have been trying to find this out as well. > I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months > depends on the immune > system of cats and dogs I guess. > > In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Does anyone have any idea how long after eating > tainted foods that symtoms > might appear? > > > > > > Terrie Mohr-Forker > > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS > SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE > Donations accepted at: > _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) > > > _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ > (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) > > _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) > > _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ > > (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) > > > _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ > (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) > > _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ > (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) > > _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) > > > > > > ** AOL now > offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
Re: Doxy and IR and Epogen, oh my! What to do?
Marissa, My Smokey had a terrible time getting high fevers like your Slinky. I ended up changing vets for him. The new vet gave him IR subq. I know everything says to give it IV but it seems to have helped Smokey. It has been over a year since his last fever (fingers crossed). I was able to give him the shots at home. We started twice a week for a few months then went to once a week to now I give him a shot every other month. She also gave him an injection of Winstrol every other week for about a month or two. The Doxy and Epogen I can't help you with because I have never used them. I hope this might help you. Cindy Reasoner --- Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. First, another brief update on Slinky: > > Last night around 2:30 his temp spiked to 106! We > gave him 75 cc's of fluids and that seemed to help. > It's been hovering in the 104.3-104.7 range today. > Still high, but not as scary as 106. My friend is > giving him fluids (both sub-q and oral), keeping him > on a cold pack, and taking his temp every hour to > get a good log. It seems to start rising in the > evening and then spike in the middle of the night. > > Our vet appointment is tomorrow at 5:40. The > challenge I'm trying to sort out right now is what > the next steps should be. Based on my own research > and all the info you guys have been so awesome to > provide, it seems like there's about 3 "options": > Epogen to increase the red blood cells, Doxy to > treat possible Hemobartanella, Immuno Regulin to > stimulate his immune system. > > The doctor had said she'd consider Epogen if there > was some regeneration after the transfusion. She > was going to ask around about the IR, and she said > it "wouldn't be wrong" to switch to Doxy. He's out > of Baytril now, so I'd like to try the Doxy. The > thing is...all of these treatments are going to be > expensive. IR isn't too bad...and I could even take > him to a cheaper vet to get it administered (after > the first dose to make sure he doesn't have a big > reaction). But I don't know what Doxy and Epogen > will cost. And I'm not sure how much my "Dad" is > willing to pay at this point. > > I'm not sure where to draw the line on trying > treatments, spending money, putting him through all > these things, etc. He's been very lethargic and > while he seems a LITTLE pinker, he's still very > pale. I mean, if he has no quality of life then I > don't want to continue to torture him. But at the > same time, would the drugs give him back his quality > of life? Maybe? I don't know? He's still eating > (though not drinking as much but will take water via > syringe), so does that mean he wants to fight? > > Do I do all 3 drugs and see what happens? Or pick > one or two? If I pick one or two, how do I decide? > Or do I do them one at a time and then which do I > start with? > > These are all the things going through my mind > right now. I've got a call in to the doctor to talk > to her about some of this prior to our appointment > (esp. since I'd need to order IR if we're going to > do it). I also have to call "dad" and see what he > thinks. But I just don't know how to make these > decisions! I feel so ill-equipped for this! All I > know is that he's depending on me and I'm > responsible for his care...and I have NO clue what > to do!!! > > Any thoughts, suggestions, or advice on how to > move forward would be awesome! Thanks everyone for > being such an incredible support network!! GLOW to > all your furkids. > > MJ > > > - > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Re: Please add my Leader to the CLS
Susan, I am so sorry you lost precious Leader. I can just imagine the love both of you shared for each other even more so since you had bottle fed him. I am sorry the last few days have been so terrible first losing Buddy and now Leader. Your in my thoughts and prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Leslie Lawther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *Susan, my heart is just breaking for you. I lost > my "soul-kitty" Wheezie > on Saturday... and it was one of the most difficult > losses I've ever had to > cope with. He was the love of my life... so I can > imagine a bottle baby > you've had from so young. We feel so helpless > sometimes... Wheezie had > congestive heart failure that we were treating for > over six months with a > cardiologist... but I know the feeling of leaving in > the morning and praying > when you open the door at the end of the day that > his beautiful face would > be there to greet me. I'm so sorry for your loss > Susan... we all are. > Hopefully Wheezie and Leader are playing together > pain free and happy* > **hugs** > *Leslie =^..^=* > > > On 2/6/07, Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Just as I had feared, my little miracle man, > Leader, was dead when I got > > home yesterday evening.I'd given him a kiss > and he'd meowed me a little > > good bye before I left him -- all wrapped up in > the sweatshirt I'd slept in > > and cuddled warm on my bed with some of his > buddies staying close. > > > > Born with feline leukemia, and my bottle baby from > age 3 weeks, he > > outlived his 5 brothers and sisters by years - in > fact he was just a couple > > of months shy of six years. Someone said to me > yesterday that I must have > > given him good care -- but I know it wasn't the > care he received; his > > littermates all got the same care and Mittens, his > brother who went to live > > with Gloria, got better, more consistent good > care.It was just the luck > > of the draw. I am so honored to have had him in > my life for so long. He > > was truly amazing, and I shall miss him terribly - > as I did last night when > > I reached out and he wasn't by my head. > > > > > > -- > Leslie =^..^= > > To leave the world a better place - whether by a > healthy child, a garden > patch, or an improved social condition - that is to > have succeeded. That > only one life breathed easier because you lived - > that is success. > ---Ralph Waldo Emerson > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Please add to CLS and Special Needs List
I am so sorry to hear about sweet little Buddy. I hope you are able to relocate Sissy. I will keep Leader and Sissy in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This has not been a good weekend at my house. I > have a little 4-cat feral colony I have fed daily > for a year -- we've had pretty bad weather lately > and I've put mounds of food out -- and haven't seen > Buddy and Sissy, two little longhaired tabby > littermates in over a week. Hoped that they were > just coming and eating when they were hungry since > there was so much food - and not coming around > waiting for me to get there at my usual time. Sat. > I called and called - it was a nice day, warmer and > sunny, and I'd left only a small amt. of food Friday > hoping they'd show up Sat. A man who lives next to > where I feed them came out and told me that one of > the tabbies had been hit by a car and died in his > yard. From his description I think it was Buddy. I > am devastated. Buddy had evolved from a totally > feral little boy to a friendly fella who met me in > the Backyard Burger (where the feeding station is) > parking lot when he heard my car. I could pet him, > even rub his tummy. If I > sat still I could ease him into my lap. His sister > still wouldn't let me touch her but has been getting > better. I planned to relocate both Buddy and Sis to > my back yard as soon as I could touch Sissy. > Separating them wasn't an option. Sissy was Buddy's > little shadow - she depended on him so.I didn't > try to trap her since she was coming around and I > figured in a month or two more I would be able to > pet her. Now I am kicking myself for not > relocating them sooner. I have a friend who > feeds for me on Sunday and she saw Sissy -- or at > least she thinks it was Sissy and not Buddy. I > almost think it would be better if it were Sissy to > have died because Buddy is so much more independent > and open to human touch. Please add my little > Buddy Bear to the CLS. He was neutered, vaccinated > and negative for felv/FIV. And about 2 years old. > > This morning I left my little miracle man, Leader, > all wrapped up in my sweatshirt on the bed - and, I > think, dying. He was born with feleuk - his whole > litter tested and retested positive. All his > littermates died at or before about age two -- > including Gloria's Mittens -- but Leader has lived > to be just 2 months short of SIX years. He has > been doing fine -- skinny, looking like death warmed > over -- but fine until he recently got an awful URI. >I've treated him with immunoregulin, Baytril, > Tylosin, Naxcel, fluids. Up until last night he > was eating well altho weak. This morning he > wouldn't eat. Please put him on the Special Needs > List and please, all, pray that he beat this URI. > Thanks. > Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
Re: Lucy and unsubscribing
Michelle, I just wanted to tell you that you, Lucy and Gray are in my prayers. I am so sorry all of you are having to go through this. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since I last wrote, Lucy got up, climbed all 14 > stairs to the upstairs, ate > half a jar of baby food and a couple pieces of dry > food, curled up on a cat > bed, and is purring away as Gray pets her. When > Gray poured the dry food for > Patches, Lucy literally got up and ran over to it, > trying to push Patched out > of the way. > > I know she has FIP, or most likely does. I know > there is no real cure and it > will get her. But today does not seem to be the day, > and I do not think it is > selfish to decide that. Someone who can and wants > to climb stairs, wants to > eat (even if not a normal amount), wants company > and pets, and can go running > over to a bowl of food is, in my opinion, not > asking to be killed. > > To whoever wrote that I should not do "home > euthanasia," I was not > considering home euthanasia, I was considering, in > an emergency if she gets in > distress, tranquilizing her until a vet could come > or we could get to a vet. i did > that with Simon and he immediately slept and > actually died in his sleep before > we needed to. But it was not intended as euthanasia. > I and several others on > the list have also used oral valium to ease > passings, and it has done so. I > do not think this is irrational. > > I stopped reading posts after that and just deleted, > to whoever wrote > something in the subject line about allowing > suffering. Given that I had just come > downstairs from Lucy's little trek and eating spree, > it seemed too > ridiculous to read. > > This list has been a godsend for me at times, and I > have made friendships > with a few of you that I hope to continue offline > from the group. But this > group is not helping me right now and is actually > upsetting me quite a bit. So I > am unsubscribing. Nina and Hideyo, I hope to stay > in touch with you > individually, and anyone else who actually wants to, > and to share ideas and > emotional support. But I am done with the group. > > Michelle > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.
Re: Please send more prayers for Lucy
Michelle, I haven't been able to read many of the post lately but I am praying for you and precious Lucy. Have you thought about the IR to try to help with the fevers? I don't know it may not be something she needs. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It seemed to help so much last time. > > Yesterday morning she had such a spike in energy > from getting extra steroids > the day before-- climbing a cat tree, going outside, > walking around, > meowing, coming upstairs. But then she got feverish > and was out of it for a while. > Since last night, and this morning, she has seemed > very comfortable-- > purring, lays in comfortable positions, alert, still > eating baby food though perhaps > a little less (hard to tell). She gets up every > once in a while and walks > to another room to pick a new spot to sleep in, or > to go to the litterbox. She > moves slowly. I think her anemia is worse. But she > is so calm, alert, and > purry, and her URI symptoms seem a bit better, > perhaps since I lowered her > steroids a bit yesterday. I briefly thought about > transfusion again, but she > seems so much more content than she has in a while, > and is so calm and purry, > that I really don't want to put her through > anything. So I will continue the > feline interferon and epogen, and her clindamycin > and pred, and hope that > something kicks in. Please pray for her as much as > you can-- it really seemed to > help last time. > > I did a phone consult with a vet at Cornell > yesterday who said it is > possible she has toxo, though probably less likely > than fip, but if it were him he > would slowly try to lower her steroids rather than > upping them to give her a > chance for the abx to work if it is toxo. So I may > try to do that very slowly, > still not sure. But am holding off on steroid shots > right now for that reason > and because, while the dex shot seemed to give her > a few hours of a lot of > energy, she then got feverish for the first time in > a week and her uri > symptoms came back for 2 days. Not sure if it was > the steroids, but it could have > been. So I think I will keep the shots in reserve > for now and try to hold the > status quo. > > thanks for all your support. It's strange, but even > though I think she is > weaker, I feel calmer right now because she seems so > calm and alert and > comfortable, and because she purrs and does not have > that miserable far-of look > about her. I think when she gets that she is > feverish. Anyway, I am a bit > calmer for the time being. > > I will get new cytology report today with cell > description and hopefully > albumin/globulin ratio. I got numbers yesterday and > her protein levels in her > effusion went down from 64 to 41, but her wbc and > rbc count in it also went down > a lot. She had a ton more fluid this time, I think > because of all the > sub-q's we were giving her, so the local vet just > thinks her fluid was more diluted > this time and that's why the protein levels went > down. They are still high-- > higher than the minimum considered compatible with > fip. And her fluid was > light yellow when drawn. I still have not been > able to get an answer as to > what toxo fluid looks like, though, or its likely > cytology. But she is meeting > a lot of the effusive fip criteria now. I still > hope it's toxo. > > thanks again, > michelle > The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: Mylo's Passing
Chris, I am so sorry to hear about your sweet Mylo. We don't want to let them go and yet we don't want to see them suffer. Your story reminded me of my dog Shelby when I had to take her about 45 mnts. from home to see if the University of Tennessee Vet Hospital could do anything for her. She was a big dog and I had her up front with me. Her backside was paralyzed. She just loved the ride down there looking out the window. In the end nothing could be done for her and I had to make that terrible decision. It was months and months before I could drive back by that Hospital. I know you and your spouse's hearts are broken. You loved Mylo so much that you put an end to the pain. I know Mylo appreciated that and all the love you and your spouse gave. Cindy Reasoner --- Chris Ramzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you all for your support. I took Mylo to his > vet appointment > yesterday. I was nervous with a pit in my stomach. > Mylo seemed subdued, > almost like he knew why he was there and that he was > ready to let go. His > little frail body lay on a blanket on the metal > table. His head still up. > The vet gave him a sedative to relax him and within > 10 minutes it had shown > it's effect on Mylo. His tiny head slowly drooped > down to where his nose was > touching the blanket he lay on. My spouse and I > continuously stroked Mylo's > head, neck and paws. The vet came back in to > administer the leathal needle. > The vet checked Mylo for a heart beat and told us > Mylo had passed. My spouse > and I stayed with Mylo privately in the room. We > said our goodbyes and gave > Mylo a kiss on his head as that was my favourite > place to kiss him. It was > difficult as we walked out of the room and I looked > back at his motionless > body. It hurt to leave him there. When we got home > we talked a lot about > Mylo. I cleaned out his litter box and put his > dishes in the dishwasher. I > slept with the blanket that I took him to the vet > in. It was difficult for > us to fall asleep. Even though I knew what we did > was right for Mylo because > of the state he was in, I just wanted him back. In > the end, I tried my best > to help him. I loved him and cared for him like he > was my child. > > > > > > >From: Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Mylo > >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:23:33 -0800 > > > >Chris, I am so very sorry you had to Mylo go, What > a wonderful > >compassionate thing you have done for your baby. > You were his voice and his > >heart when he could not speak for himself. Today > you are full of sadness, > >but there is that seed of joy somewhere inside you > that will grow because > >you have brought an end to all of Mylos pain, The > very best gift you have > >given. > >Kelly > > > > > > _ > Free Alerts : Be smart - let your information find > you ! > http://alerts.live.com/Alerts/Default.aspx > > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: midnight
If you can tell that he isn't spraying then I would take him into the vet. He might have a urinary tract infection and that is something you don't want to let go. If he is spraying then I would get him neutered as soon as possible. Cindy Reasoner --- Jennifer Madon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello everyone. I am back with another question. > Midnight is 8-9 > months old. I have noticed the last 2 days that he > is peeing all over > the house. Not like, oops it just happened but he > is positioning > himself in places or over things and peeing on > purpose. Is this a cry > for attention, spraying or something else? Thanks > for all your help! > Jennifer > > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
Re: Cindy-- what dose IR?
I will have to look when I get home. The vet always fixes the shots for me. I haven't given it IV because subq has seemed to work Smokey. Cindy Reasoner --- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 01:52 PM 1/19/2007, you wrote > > > > > > The recommended doses I see is 1/2 to 1 cc IV is > the very best route > I used 1/2 cc the first time and them I went to 2/4 > cc,,,Max > weight 11 lbs... > Kelly > > > > >Cindy, what dose IV I-R did you give smoky? The vet > in Ohio gives a > >whole ml at a time, which is what I gave to Patches > when she had > >pneumonia and to Ginger. It helped them a lot, but > Ginger had a very > >high fever spike right afterwards. The company > recommends .25 ml, > >which is what I gave Lucy each time. Did you use > more than that for > >Smoky? And on what schedule? Did he have any > symptoms other than fever? > > > >Thanks, > >Michelle > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - > Release Date: 1/18/2007 > The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: Cindy-- what dose IR?
I think the .25 ml. is what Smokey gets. I will check when I get home today. I didn't notice a spike in his temp. after he got an injection. IR seems to have really helped Smokey to not get anymore fevers. It has almost been a year now (fingers crossed). At first he got 2 injections a week for about 2 months. Then 1 a week and now he gets 1 every month or a little longer. No, Smokey didn't have any other symptoms. I am so sorry to hear that the internist thinks Lucy may have FIP. I know it can be so hard to try to figure out what to do next. We all want to do everything we can for our babies. You and Lucy are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cindy, what dose IV I-R did you give smoky? The vet > in Ohio gives a whole ml > at a time, which is what I gave to Patches when she > had pneumonia and to > Ginger. It helped them a lot, but Ginger had a very > high fever spike right > afterwards. The company recommends .25 ml, which is > what I gave Lucy each time. > Did you use more than that for Smoky? And on what > schedule? Did he have any > symptoms other than fever? > > Thanks, > Michelle > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Re: Lucy--what to do?
Michelle, Do you think that immuno-regulin might help her fevers? I don't know anything about what sweet Lucy is going through but I know with my Smokey when he was running a fever he wouldn't eat. I do know that I was having a terrible time with him getting fevers and the immuno-regulin seemed to have helped. I know with all of her other symptoms it may not be something she needs to be given but it was just a thought. I will be praying that your sweet Lucy starts feeling better and you get some answers as to what is going on with her. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks. I gave her the feline interferon about an > hour ago. She seemed > feverish, so a while later I gave her some fluids. > She then ate a small handful of > dry EVO on her own. She is just laying there now. > She is not grooming. She is > definitely worse day by day. That said, she looked > terrible last night but > when I got up to check on her at 4 am she had gone > downstairs to use the > litterbox and then trotted over to a plastic bag and > sat on it, I pet her a > while, and then she trotted upstairs back to her > box. I went back to sleep and at > 8 am she looked awful again. I think her fever > comes and goes. I have > stopped temping her. When she is warm I give her > fluids (not more than 150 ml/day) > and put ice on her, and so far she eventually cools > down. I was going to > syringe feed her raw food, but then she ate a > handful (15 pieces?) of dry food > so I held off. I convinced my local vet to order > feline interferon, and now I > am working on getting him to agree to acemannan. He > was skeptical about the > feline interferon, and seems to think Lucy's case is > hopeless and I am > grasping at straws and wasting money. But he is nice > to me, and so far has > ultimately agreed to do as I ask. The acemannan > request may put an end to that. > > Michelle > > > In a message dated 1/19/2007 1:04:07 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Dearest Michelle, > As I wrote before, I just went through this same > push/pull anxiety with > Spencer. It's enough to give you a nervous > breakdown. I'm feeling your pain > right through the computer. I know Lucy is in bad > shape, but it does sound like > she's at least comfortable for the most part. When > you talk about worsening > symptoms, are you referring to her not eating? > Today is the first time she > hasn't eaten on her own, is that right? Stress > will put her off her food, > perhaps she's just regaining her strength. The > thought of her enjoying a sun > bath is encouraging. She may be strong enough to > wait for the experts to > decide a treatment protocol. > > I wish I had the answers for you Michelle. I'm > afraid that no matter how > much support we have from others, it always comes > down to our call when dealing > with so this sort of quandary. All I can tell you > is that after I calmed my > spirit and communed with Spencer, (my last > experience with what you are > going through), I felt a little more at peace with > the circumstances. > Unfortunately, Spencer did not have a long time > left to share with me. I never gave up > hope, but I did find a semblance of acceptance and > peace. The benefit was > that the time we did share was full of unconditional > love, and I don't know > how else to put it, full of quality. It didn't keep > him with me in the > physical, but it allowed us to bond in an > extraordinary way. It was an incredible > gift that we shared, at a very costly price. I'll > always be grateful to him > for the lessons learned during that heartrending > time. > > I have no idea what I would do in your place. > Missing the pieces of the > puzzle make it so very difficult to make these sorts > of decisions with > conviction. I would never take the advice of anyone > over what my own gut was telling > me though. The specialists may be well meaning, > they may even be > sympathetic, but to them Lucy is a medical case, to > you she is your heart. The way I > see it is we are responsible for interpreting the > wishes of our fur children > and making sure that our decisions are based on > love and not fear. You are the > one that has to live with the consequences, no > matter what those > consequences may be. Clear your head. Sit quietly > with her, your next move will come > to you. > All my love, > Nina > > > > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front
Re: Junior
Sally, I am sorry to hear that Junior's eye is still causing problems. Both of you are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am taking Junior to the Vet tomorrow. His right > eye still has glaucoma, > you can see it bulge and the cataract that is > forming. He did not eat well > today. Just in case the vet is agreeable how do I > get her to write the > prescription for alferon(Kelly)? Also I looked in > the Archives and I am not > sure it answered my question, but for any of you who > have used Transfer > Factor, do you think it helps? > He still has the thick ears which are very red. I > will ask about that as > well. > > Thanks for you help. > > Sally Davis > -- > Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline > Leukemia. Our story > www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html > please help us if you can > https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=puttyrat%40k6az.com > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Re: Missy has a bloody nose:(
Kelley, I hope that Missy's nose is due to dry air and not anything more serious. Both of you are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Kelley, > I remembered other list members posting about bloody > noses and did a > quick search. Humidifiers seemed to help and > someone posted about > possible ulcerations inside/outside the nose. They > said to check for > calicivirus or herpes. How much lysine do you have > her on? I'd try > either saline drops on a qtip or maybe even a little > vasiline to soften > up her nose. I'm praying right along side you that > it's nothing more > than the dry air irritating her. I love your little > Missy, please let > us know how she's doing. > Nina > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > > My vet is closed and has been for days due to the > ice stormI am so > > worried about her. I am hoping it is due to the > dry air, but no one > > else has a bloody nose. > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > > > TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Michelle, I am sorry that Lucy isn't doing well. I hope she starts feeling better. I am sending prayers to the two of you. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The oncologist and internist can not figure out what > is wrong with her. The > things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, > FIP, a ruptured > intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection. She > has some symptoms of each, but not > enough of any of them to make it seem like the > diagnosis. They did ultrasound > and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could > not come up with anything. > They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph > nodes and sent us home > with her. Upon getting home, she looks much worse. > She does not want to eat > except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am > afraid to give her more of it > due to her IBD. She is kind of hunched up and > looks nauseous and out of > it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks > awful. She did not look this > way before I took her to the hospital, or even > while so feverish last > night. The oncologist had said that if her clinical > signs get worse, e.g. she > stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for > more tests. I am so loathe to > do that, especially today right from getting home. > I am going to give her a > few hours and see if she gets any better. I would > feel better if she would > just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't. I offered > her her turkey and she > looked like she was going to be sick from smelling > it. She was also a little > wobbly coming up the stairs. We thought maybe they > had tranquilized her to get > the biopsy but they said no. She has not really > eaten now since last night (I > withheld food this morning so don't know if she > would have eaten or not). > > Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely > appreciated. Very > exhausted and worried and sad here. > > Michelle > Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about Lucy. I hope you get better news at the vet office. I know what you mean about loving all of your babies but there is one that just captures your heart and soul. It sounds like you are doing everything for your sweet baby. I will be praying for both of you. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to > the ER. They did blood > work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver > enzymes are low. They took > xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I > don't really trust to read xrays > totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen > and an enlarged heart. > They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it > is. With IV fluids and some > torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. > I then took her home, > against their advice, because they did not seem to > think they could do anything > and she was miserable there. I have an appointment > for 7:30 am at Red Bank, > the best vet hospital in the state, with an > oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so > we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, > but I want a better > diagnosis, and I want it from the best people. > Except for the fact that she is > still eating (probably not normally, but not > completely terribly either) and > alert, and her protein ratio which does not point > to FIP, her clinical signs and > blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet > thinks it's lymphoma. > She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont > respond to chemo, even > though I told her I had one who did and know others > with cats who have. It is > possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is > lymphoma so bad that nothing can > be done or that she has heart problems that will > complicate chemo and I can't > do it. But I want to try, at least, to get a > better diagnosis before > deciding all of this. She is happy to be home for > now. She ate a little bit of > cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. > > Please pray hard for her. It does not look good. I > hope she can at least > have some good time left. she is my baby, more than > any of the others, though I > love them too. she is my love. > > Michelle > Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: Angel Morgana
Kelley, I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your sweet little girl Morgana. It sounds like she was such a beautiful little girl. You are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an > hour ago. I noticed > something was not right about the way she was lying > and picked her up and > she was doing that awful head lolling thing and > panting. I stuck her in a > crate and drove as fast as I could to the emergency > hospital but she passed > before I could get there. I gaev her her meds > earlier and I wonder if she > had a bad reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of > amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin. I > feel like there was something I could have done to > stop it. My poor little > girl was only 3. She is a white persian with big > beautiful eyes. She is a > tiny girl, just 5.25 pounds. > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
Re: Angel Morgana
Kelley, I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your sweet little girl Morgana. It sounds like she was such a beautiful little girl. You are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm so sad. My little Morgana died less than an > hour ago. I noticed > something was not right about the way she was lying > and picked her up and > she was doing that awful head lolling thing and > panting. I stuck her in a > crate and drove as fast as I could to the emergency > hospital but she passed > before I could get there. I gaev her her meds > earlier and I wonder if she > had a bad reaction...just 1/2 droppeful of > amoxycillin and 1/2 periactin. I > feel like there was something I could have done to > stop it. My poor little > girl was only 3. She is a white persian with big > beautiful eyes. She is a > tiny girl, just 5.25 pounds. > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail
Re: Antonio
Elizabeth, I am trying to remember which type of crystals Winston had but I am sorry my memory just isn't what it used to be. His last bout was back in October. It wasn't very bad I think I caught it early. The vet gave him Baytril and valium to help ease his straining. Winston is very high strung. He will let you pet him only to turn around to bite the crap out of you. So Winston on valium made the house alot calmer. I had him on dry prescription diet Science Hill XD but the vet had me change to can because can has more water in it which they said is better for cats that have this problem. I hope this info might help. After dealing with Winston, I agree with your vet tech about going back to Antonio's regular food. I don't dare let Winston eat anything but his prescription diet because even when I changed him to Innova EVO he got crystals. This is just my own experience though. I hope Antonio starts feeling better very very soon. You and Antonio are in my prayers. Cindy --- elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Barb - I am so relieved to hear you say that. > Thanks for all your > input. This doctor who told me that is not my usual > vet. I'll ask my vet > about the pH normalizing formula. > > Kiss Smoky for me, > elizabeth > > > On 1/9/07, Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > and this is for struvite crystals?? he > shouldn't have to be on that > > particular dissolving food for THAT long!! 3-4 > weeks is what we did and > > Smoky didn't really like it so he never had it > that long, but his regular > > food is that pH normalizing recipe, so the vet was > OK w/that > > > > Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito > > > > "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he > should impress. Merely living > > his life, doing what pleases him, and making me > smile." > > - Anonymous > > > > - Original Message > > From: elizabeth trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 5:30:01 PM > > Subject: Re: Antonio > > > > Thanks, MC. I think what I will do is every > morning and every > > evening...I'll set out their eight little bowls > for an hour or so and > > supervise --making sure Antonio only gets his > special food. That way, we'll > > get on a schedule. The advantage of this is that > I will be able to see > > exactly who eats how much and who isn't eating > properly...and technically it > > will be a better way to monitor their intake than > just leaving all the dry > > food down all the time. > > > > The vet says that it will take months of this food > before Antonio gets > > back to normal but after that it may be that he > can go back to his regular > > food. The vet tech that I do respect though told > me separately that she > > guarentees if I go back to the other food, he'll > get a stone. > > > > I just need to educate myself and tune in to these > babies as much as I can > > and get them well. I have a friend who has been a > Reiki master since this > > 60s...I may take Antonio to see her. Couldn't > hurt. Whatever it takes to > > make my babies as healthy as they can be and to > feel better. > > > > elizabeth > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: ot: Antonio
Elizabeth, I hope Antonio is feeling better today. My baby Winston has a problem with crystals and he is on Science Hill XD can and so far has been doing good with it. You and Antonio are in my prayers. Cindy --- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > I just logged on and saw your thread about Antonio. > Poor baby! I hope > he's doing better today. It's such a shame that you > had a hard time at > the vet. It's never easy to deal with > inconsideration, but when your > baby is in pain and danger it's almost impossible to > take. I agree that > you should speak to your vet about it. The staff > sounds insensitive > enough to not realize just how inappropriate their > behavior is. > > Have you been doing research on special dietary > requirements for > crystals? I feed my IBD girl a homemade diet that > has kept her feeling > good and off of meds for the most part for over a > year now. It is extra > trouble, but so very worth it. > > Good for you for not picking up a cigarette during > all of this. Are you > still smoke free? > > Give Antonio a hug from me and let us know how he's > doing, > Nina > > elizabeth trent wrote: > > Poor Antonio - I was up much of the night with > himhe slept by my > > pillow with my arm around him. He has some blood > in his urine and > > possibly a kidney stoneplus, his glands need > to be expressed so > > the poor boy just feels rotten. I made them > promise me at the vet's > > they would give him some demerol. > > > > He's lost a pound too since he's been on the light > formula...that's > > very good news. > > > > I really hated leaving him at the vet's this > morning but they told me > > I really needed to...they will do x-rays and they > may have to extract > > some urine. I'm just worried sick about him. > > > > Please, if you would...send prayers...good > thoughts...or whatever is > > your style for the dear boy. We very much > appreciate it. > > > > Thank you, > > elizabeth > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
I haven't had any experience with an aggressive cat but I think it is so wonderful that you took her. Maybe her aggression is from being scared and in a new place. Poor baby. I am sure she is probably scared when she has been taken to the vet so maybe that is why their paperwork says she is aggressive. I know my Tabby Cat and Nicholas are so sweet at home but at the vet's office they turn into these cats I have never seen before. Especially Tabby Cat the vet has will bite on her chart. She doesn't show that behavior at home. I hope things get better for you and the new kitty. Cindy --- Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I took in an owner surrendered cat last night. Most > of my rescue friends > love taking in owner surrendered cats because they > generally have at least > some medical history. I got this cat in, and she is > *extremely > aggressive*. She acts completely feral. I'm not > able to get within a foot > of her at the most. I have her in the bathroom by > herself in hopes she'll > calm down. The previous owner states the cat was > friendly with her and > never attacked any visitors. However, the paperwork > from the vet lists > "aggression" as a condition going back at least 4 > years. > > Any ideas? I think this is going to become one of > my cats. I can't adopt > out a cat I know to be aggressive. At this point, > if she needed medical > attention I'd need to trap her to take her in . > > Has anyone ever dealt successfully with a cat like > this? If I didn't know > better I'd swear she was feral and had never been > around humans at all. > > > -- > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > http://www.rescuties.org > > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Please add Jimi Too Cool to the CLS
Anne, I am so sorry to hear about your sweet boy Jimi Too Cool. It sounds like he was full of personality. I know it must be so hard for you. It is nice that you can remember all the happiness and laughter he brought into your life. Your in my prayers. Cindy --- "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Anne, > I'm so sorry to hear the sad news of your sweet Jimi > Too Cool. He > couldn't have wished for a better mom, that's for > sure. He was one smart > cat, picking you out at the bank all those years > ago. Thanks for sharing > with us in the midst of your tears the story of how > you met. I love your > description of the antics he entertained you with. > He was clearly a cat > with a huge personality. I hope all the fun and good > memories he's given > you will comfort you at this sad and difficult time. > I'm glad Sophie is doing well, and Simms too. > love and hugs to you and your babes, Anne, > Kerry > > > anne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear kind fellow cat lovers, > Jimi Too Cool has passed over to the other side > with the > help of his favorite vet, Dr. Greene, at 11:30AM > today. Things went > pretty smoothly and Dr. Greene was very kind and > sympathetic. > > Jimi had suffered from the side effects of > feline leukemia > for half of his 10 year lifetime. It started with > painful stomatitis > and travelled down the esophagus and beyond, making > it very difficult > for him to eat. In the last several months, he has > gone downhill, > becoming skin and bones, practically, even though he > could eat well and > a lot when his steroid shots kicked in. This last > weekend, he became > like the walking dead and cried out pitifully now > and then. His eyes > looked tired and sad and glazed. The tramadol that > was added to his > meds wasn't helping anymore, either, it seemed. > > I have been blessed to have my boy for so long, > especially > in light of his disease, so for that I am very > grateful. He was a > noble, silly, friendly, brave, loving, smart, quirky > and beautiful boy. > He has my heart. He was very much a COOL boy all > his life, too, from > the time I scooped him up from an ATM machine > location on a busy, > dangerous street, up to and including his death. At > our first meeting > at the bank, he just sauntered over and sat beside > me calmly and > resolutely and happily, making it known he was not > leaving my side and > that was how it stayed. > > Jimi liked to headbutt us often and with force. > He also > liked to hang upside down like a bat and he also did > his camel imitation > for our entertainment, making his back hump greatly, > as he was a tall > and solid boy with long lanky legs. He was also > somewhat like a dog, > following us on our heels often. > > Phaewry and Marylyn, thank you for your recent > posts > concerning Jimi. I want to answer them when I feel > a bit stronger. > Tamara, thank you, dear friend. Love and hugs to > you, too, as always. > > I wanted to send the following poem along with > this message > because it reminded me so much of my boy, Jimi Too > Cool, and helped me > get through the euthanasia. > Anne and Simms and Sophie and Jimi Too Cool, in > spirit in my > heart always > > A Parting Prayer > > Dear Lord, please open your gates > and call St. Francis > to come escort this beloved companion > across the Rainbow Bridge. > > Assign him to a place of honor, > for he has been a faithful friend > and has always done his best to please me. > > Bless the hands that send him to you, > for they are doing so in love and compassion, > freeing him from pain and suffering. > > Grant me the strength not to dwell on my loss. > Help me remember the details of his life > with the love he has shown me. > And grant me the courage to honor him > by sharing those memories with others. > > Let him remember me as well > and let him know that I will always love him. > And when it's my time to pass over into your > paradise, > please allow him to accompany those > who will bring me home. > > Thank you, Lord, > for the gift of his companionship > and for the time we've had together. > > And thank you, Lord, > for granting me the strength > to give him to you now. > > - (c) Brandy Duckworth, 1998 > > Jimi Too Cool > Summer 1996 - Dec. 18th, 2006 > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above > as to tax matters was neither written nor intended > by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be > used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the > purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be > imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person use
Re: Bandy is an angel now
OH, Kerry I am so sorry to hear about Bandy. I don't know what to say except that you are in my prayers. Cindy --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bandy passed away around 4pm TX. time at home with > me..This as you all know is so hard to write, but I > wanted you to know..You all have been so good to us > the past year and a half. > I will write more when I can.. > Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Tiny passed
Sally, I am so sorry to hear that Tiny has passed away. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Cindy --- Sally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am so sorry to tell everyone that Tiny just passed > over. He had a > seemingly benign URI. Not really showing symptoms of > being in distress. He > seemed worse today, but not life threatening. Five > minutes ago he started > choking I tried to hold him nothing would help. He > was turning blue. Before > I could get oxygen to him he was gone. I so did not > expect this like this. > He was the healthier one of my two FelV babies. This > has been one horrible > year. > > > > Sally > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Prayers needed for Bandy
I have started giving him injections less and less. He gets one every month now. He just got his vaccinations and he seems to have done O.K. with them. We didn't do them at the same time. We did the rabies first and waited close to a month for the other. I hope Junior and Tiny start feeling better. When was the last time they had the IR? Cindy --- Sally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Cindy > > Do you use the immuno-regulin when needed or are you > on a maintenance dose > for Smokey? My cats have finished their preliminary > protocol. The vet plans > a monthly dosage. In the meantime Junior got sick, > now Tiny seems to have > the URI. Tiny's cold is not as bad. He does seem a > bit pale(his noses is not > as pink). I may have him tested or checked for > anemia when he goes back on > the 5th of January. > > Kelly I also want to talk to my vet about the > alferon, but am unclear how > she needs to write the prescription. > > Thanks for any help here. I am crossing my fingers > that I do not have to > take Tiny to the vet before his scheduled visit. He > seems to be holding his > own. > > Sally > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of cindy reasoner > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:02 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Prayers needed for Bandy > > Kerry, have you tried using the immuno-regulin? It > seemed to help when Smokey was running fevers. The > vet would tell me he had an infection somewhere but > they never could find it. When I started him on the > immuno-regulin it really seemed to help him. I am > crossing my fingers but it has been 9 months since > he > had his last fever. I hope this might help. You > and > Bandy are in my prayers. I hope Bandy starts > feeling > better very very soon. > > Cindy Reasoner > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Prayers needed for Bandy
When Smokey first started taking the IR he would also get a shot of Winstrol every other week for about 2 months. The vet said it would help him to feel better. I can't remember what Winstrol is now. I have found that memory isn't what it use to be. I hope you can try the IR. Bandy is in my prayers. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I lied-- one more email. If your vet is hesitant to > use I-R with steroids, > have him call the vet in Ohio, Dr. Mike Lees, who > wrote the article. The name > of his hospital is, I think, on the article (on > _www.felineleukemia.org_ > (http://www.felineleukemia.org) ) or some contact > info of some sort, since that is > how I found him when I called him. He was very nice > and willing to talk and > share his experiences with I-R, and with I-R > combined with steroids. > > ok, now I really won't write any more on this. > > Michelle > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Prayers needed for Bandy
Kerry, have you tried using the immuno-regulin? It seemed to help when Smokey was running fevers. The vet would tell me he had an infection somewhere but they never could find it. When I started him on the immuno-regulin it really seemed to help him. I am crossing my fingers but it has been 9 months since he had his last fever. I hope this might help. You and Bandy are in my prayers. I hope Bandy starts feeling better very very soon. Cindy Reasoner --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, he did good over the weekend until Tues..then > the temp shot back up to 104.8. He had to go back to > the vet on Tues for adequan injection so he got > another round of dex, and 2 antibiotic injections..I > guess the temp went back down as I can't check it at > home right now due to some ear inflammation going > on, too..I use the ear thermometer. He is eating > good so far again and I will go back on Fri since > the vet will be closed until Tues. after that..He > will be re-checked and I hope he is on the mend this > time...She also added clindamycin twice a day with > the baytril..He has an infection going on somewhere, > but not sure what or where. > He is down to 6.25# now so that isn't good...He > has lost 1 pound since Nov. 17. I hope I can get > the wt back on him... > Head butts to all, > Kerry, Bandy and Inky > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Pepper died
Candace, I am so sorry to hear about your Pepper. Cindy Reasoner --- Candace Doler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just wanted to let you know that Pepper died a few > hours ago. He > started getting better with this current episode but > was not so good > earlier today. > > I was not expecting him to go so suddenly. I was > not at home at the > time so not sure what happened. > > I want to thank everyone for their advice and > support. > > This group is great for those of us who want to take > responsibility for > the health care of our pets and give them the best > chance possible for a > good outcome. > > > > Thank you all > > Candace > > Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: new diagnosis
It sounds like you need to find another vet. I had to find a new one when my Smokey was diagnosed with being felv+. They were recomending euthanasia and I am so glad I didn't do it. I will give him love , a home and all the medical help I can until his time comes. Really we never really know how long we will have any of our babies. I hope your kitty starts feeling better and you find a vet that understands this disease. Cindy Reasoner --- "Dianne K Perry, Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you so much Kelley! I was feeling very alone. > My friend and I were talking this morning and she > is going to go with me tomorrow (hopefully we can > get into oncologist)I saw the AAFP list and > there are 3 in the area so maybe if not the > oncologist one of them can see us. > > He gave her a steroid shot of the same type they > give when animal is in shock. They gave her fluids > and sent her home with lasix. She just ate some > white chicken (canned)...and more of the cat milk. > Got a crushed up pill in her. > > Dianne > - Original Message - > From: Kelley Saveika > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: new diagnosis > > > Did the vet recommend euthanization based on her > diagnosis alone? If so I would find another vet. > No matter what I would get a second opinion. There > are too many vets out there who don't understand > this disease. > > If no one out there has a recommendation for a vet > in your area, I would try one who is a member of the > AAFP, they seem to be more up on things. > > http://www.aafponline.org/ > > Do you know what the shot was, or did they just > give her fluids? > > Hugs to you and what a way to spend your > Thanksgiving - sorry:( > > FELV is treatable and I would take the eating and > drinking and litterbox using as a good sign...but > there are a lot of others more knowledgeable than me > on this list. I just wanted you to not feel alone. > > On 11/23/06, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I just joined this list today, Thanksgiving Day. > Yesterday my kitty was diagnosed with feline > leukemia, she is just barely one year old and I have > had her less than a year (by a few weeks). > > She has not been her usual self, not getting > into everything, not eating, lethargic, breathing > labored. Vet said the test results were strong and > came back very quickly (a blue response in a little > white tester almost like a home pregnancy test > instrument), they administered fluids to her for > dehydration and the spot where they inserted the > needle bled alot, did not coagulate very well. > > Vet is recommending euthanasia and soon > (tomorrow), she has responded today to probably the > shot he gave her, she has gone to the bathroom and > this am drank a small amount of catsmilk from > Wisker's, licked some cat food off my fingers but > not much. > > I am thinking of trying to get a second opinion > tomorrow. I need some guidance here so I joined > this list. > > Thanks for any help anyone can provide. > > Dianne > > > > -- > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! > > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: OT: my feral calico mama Angelica is back!!
Hideyo, I am so glad that Angelica is back. That is wonderful news. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, everyone, I just wanted to tell you that I just > saw my missing > calico mama, angelica waiting for me on my porch - > after talking to AC, > and haven't seen her for the past 4 days, I was so > convninced that she > was not with us anymore after my neighbor poisoning > cats in my > neighborhood -- cannot express how relieved and glad > to see her during > this despair time.. moments like this gives me a > reason why I do what I > do for my ferals..thank you for all your prayers... > > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: my 5th loss (to FIP?) - Rikki is at peace now
Hideyo, I am so sorry to hear about Rikki. It sounds like you try to do so much to help all the kitties you find. I wish you didn't have to go through so much sorrow. I know you must feel like giving up but even with the babies you have lost you gave them all of your love and caring. If it hadn't been for you they might not of ever known that feeling. I know you are heartbroken after losing so many. You are a wonderful person that tries to help all these precious babies you find. I will be praying for you and your other kitties. Also, I will pray that you get some good news on JoJo that he doesn't have cancer. You are in my thoughts and again I am so so sorry. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I just wanted to ask you to take a moment to > send a prayer for my > most gentle kitty, Rikki who crossed the bridge to > heaven tonight - he > had the most peaceful crossing -though I was in the > same are as he was > resting (on the couch), I regret that I was not > right besides him and > was not holding him as I ma sure he would have liked > - I was so > exhausted and laying on the floor and felt sleep and > woke up and he had > passed already - I feel badly that I was not holding > him.. Though he was > so weak towards the end, every time, I could go and > call his name, he > would meow for me like he has done for the past > several years I have had > - I couldn't wish for a much more perfect than rikki > - > > > > I don't know for sure if he had FIP for sure,, as it > impacted a > different part of the organ in his case (kidney) - > though I know it was > not CRF, as his kidneys were just fine two weeks > ago. I was talking to > someone today in rescue business - and there seems > to be more FIP cases > in our area for some reason - so Susan, in a sense > you were right, there > is something going on that no one knows about - > there is more incidents > for FIP in the area at least than every in the > past.. and don't know > why..Right now I am in despair and tired.. > > > > I have 4 other kitties who are showing a partial of > symptoms in other > kitties who have passed away, and very paranoid. and > I put all of them > on FOI interferon hoping that I am catching everyone > early enough that > can reverse anything going one.. I am praying that I > have seen the last > of FIP tragedy at my household.. > > > > I also found out that one of my dogs JoJo who is 8 > years old mix of chow > and shepherd may or may not have cancer - his one of > eyes is bleeding a > bit and has a big tumor in his gum.. and has blood > in his urine. The vet > was not crazy how his eye and tumor looked.. we did > an impression on him > and see if we can find more - please send a prayer > to JoJo and send a > healing energy that he is going to get better - > > > > Also, I have not seen my feral calico kitty - > Angelina for 4 nights - I > talked to my AC-and she is either suffering > something very acute or may > not with us anymore - I knew she was not ill - I > mentioned to her about > my neighbour poisoning cats and she thought, she may > be one of the > victims - I can't tell you how angry and devasting I > am - she is a such > a beautiful kitty, and was getting so used to me and > meoed so loud and > happy to see me - I have so much sadness, despair > and angers these days. > I am having a hard time to believe in faith.. may > all my babies rest in > peace.. and come back and have a joyful, happy and > healthy life > > > > Hideyo > > Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: another despair - prayer for Rikki - ARF/FIP?
I hope your Rikki starts feeling better soon. I will be praying for him. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, please pray for my most gentle kitty, Rikki - > Rikki was abandoned by > someone who lived at an apartment where I was > renting several years > ago,, they left him behind.. he was living under the > bush until I > decided to bring him home - he somehow was tested > incorrectly as FIV a > few years ago, but it turned out false positive and > he has been such a > sweet and kind addition to my family - > > > > A several months ago, I noticed that he started > losing weight, and did a > couple of blood work and they always come back > pretty normal.. most of > my kitties have high globulin - so FIP is never > completely ignored.. but > I have had lots of corona virus cats for the past 7 > years or so.. so I > had stopped worrying about FIP - until a few months > ago, when I started > losing my babies one after the other to FIP - > > > > My vet thinks that ARF is a result of FIP - and he > maybe losing sight > gradually (not to due to BP -as it's normal) - it > also happens with FIP > - > > > > He has been on IV all day today and I am bringing > back tomorrow day time > to get some more --- I just feel so helpless - I am > so devastated and > cannot even cry - > > > > Everyone please pray that a miracle will happen and > my Rikki will feel > better - he does not deserve this... > > > > Hideyo > > Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: (OT) Please send good vibes to my friend's cat, Emily, she has breast cancer.
Renee and Emily are in my thoughts and prayers. I will be praying that Emily is in that 15% and the tumor won't be malignant. Cindy Reasoner --- Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just got this note from one of my friends that > brought the feral colony up > to live with me: > > > I took 2 of my cats for check ups this evening...the > vet found a breast > tumor in my 9 year old Maine Coon. She's having a > mastectomy tomorrow...I > just came home and looked it up on the internet and > I see that 85% of the > time it's malignantplease say a prayer for my > baby girl...she's my first > cat and she's so smart that sometimes I swear she > must be part humanI > can't believe this is happening...she doesn't like > to be brushed or have her > belly messed with so I didn't know she had a > growthonce the doctor > showed me where it was, I felt it immediatelyI > feel so bad I didn't find > it. > > Her name is Renee, and her cat's name is Emily. > Please send good vibes, > prayers, etc for Emily! I told her she should join > this group, since so many > people here have gone through the cancer thing. I > know breast cancer is a > different kind than usually comes with FELV, but > it's still cancer... > > Maybe we could add Emily to the CLS service for next > week??? > > Phaewryn > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:2.1 > N:O'Gwynn;Jenn;Phaewryn;Ms. > FN:Jenn Phaewryn O'Gwynn > NICKNAME:Phaewryn > ORG:Little Cheetah Cat Rescue;operations/field work > TITLE:Cat Rescuer > NOTE:I rescue cats. I run a small personal rescue > operation, all on my own, and out of pocket. > Donations appreciated at any time! Paypal donations > can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send donations > via check or money order to Jennifer O'Guin, PO Box > 1008, Hardwick VT. 05843 > TEL;WORK;VOICE:802-472-8628 > TEL;HOME;VOICE:802 472-8628 > ADR;WORK:;home office;;Hardwick;VT.;05843;USA > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:home > office=0D=0AHardwick, VT. 05843=0D=0AUSA > ADR;HOME:;;P.O. Box 1008;Hardwick;Vermont;05843;USA > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box > 1008=0D=0AHardwick, Vermont 05843=0D=0AUSA > X-WAB-GENDER:1 > URL;HOME:http://ucat.us > URL;WORK:http://ucat.us/adopt.html > BDAY:19750928 > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > REV:20061116T015603Z > END:VCARD > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - > Release Date: 11/14/2006 > Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: You are my support group-please add Schumacher to the CLS
Brenda, I am sorry to hear about Schumacher. Also, I am sorry you have had to lose so many of your babies lately. Cindy Reasoner --- Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brenda, > I'm so sorry. GLOW to light his path and ease your > hearts. > > Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito > > "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should > impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases > him, and making me smile." >- Anonymous > > - Original Message > From: Tim Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:41:48 PM > Subject: You are my support group-please add > Schumacher to the CLS > > > > > > I know I only post > to this group when I have a tragedy, but I read > almost all the posts online > daily. I feel like you all are my support group > although I don't have any > FeLV+ cats any more. I lost my last one in June. > > > > Anyway, our FIV+ > Schumacher as gone to Rainbow Bridge today. About 6 > weeks ago he went to > the vet because he was a little depressed and wasn't > eating well. The > bloodwork showed kidney problems (elevated BUN & > creatinine) and below > normal PCV. He spent 5 days in the hospital and the > vet pulled him > through. He's been on prednisolone, cyproheptadine, > Pepsid AC, Procrit > & sub-Q fluids. Over the weekend, he just took a > nose dive and > wouldn't eat or drink anything. He was drooling and > gagging at the sight > of any food. > > > > I took him back to > the vet this morning and she didn't think anythig > else could be done. His > anemia appeared to be gone, but he was just very > depressed and vocalizing > (normally quiet) alot when I tried to hold him. He > had clearly had enough > of the needles & pills. The vet recommend PTS and I > decided it was the > best thing. > > > > He was a very loving > orange tabby with a little "cat"titude on the side > and was my husband's > favorite. This is never easy and it's already been > a rough year. > We've lost 2 others since June. Please add our > Schumacher to the CLS as a > non-positive. > > > > Thanks for always > being there to listen when I need you all. > > > > > > Brenda > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: ot: Update on Antonio
Your right poor Antonio. Bless his heart. I hope his backside starts feeling better soon. I hope he doesn't have to go through surgery. Both of you are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Poor little big Antonio. > > Took him back today for his checkup - he looks like > he's been hit in the > butt by a missile. Those glands are just so > inflamed and his backside looks > awful. So red and irritated...draining -- we never > missed a single dose of > antibiotics but he looks so much worse than when I > took him in last week > (although he seems to be feeling much better). > > The vet didn't dare try to even express his glands > or take his temp -- > apparently Antonio has been scooting around in his > spare time and that hasn't > helped. He gave Antonio a long-acting steroid shot > and since we finished a week > on Clavamox we're starting a week of Cefa-drops. > > I asked the vet what I could do to make him more > comfortable...told him I > wanted to keep him clean but I don't want to > irritate his already sensitive > backside. He said to just apply a cold compress > from time to time. > > We may have to have surgery. They won't evaluate, > however, until the > inflammation calms down. > > Antonio is such a big boy. He's too big for any > known cat carrier...and > even though I bought him a dog carrier good for > 35lbs - the handle broke off the > first time I put him in and picked it up. I just > sling him over my shoulder > and go. So funny at the vet's today...typical > comments from other patients > are -- "OMG! That's the biggest cat I've ever > SEEN!" yeah...he's a big > babyhe's bigger than some people's children. > He's my baby though and I'm > doing everything I can to take care of him. > > Please say a prayer for my big boy, > elizabeth > Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: Prayers needed for Inky - to Kerry
Kerry, Thanks for the info. on Hills that makes me feel better. Saturday they sent off a urine sample for Elvis to the lab so they get exact numbers on his kidney's. They think it was caught early because there was no indication of any problems in his bloodwork. The vet told me that she went to a class a couple of weeks ago and they are starting to use a drug for the heart to help with kidney problems. I don't know the name or if it is just for dogs but I will ask her. It is suppose to open up the blood vessels which helps the kidney function. You may alreay know about this. I don't know if Elvis will have to be on it or not. I hope your Inky is feeling better. Both of you are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Hideyo, > Thanks for the info..I did join the CRF group, but > haven't posted there only go read when I can.. > I need to go back and look for some things. > Inky's values are as follows...(some of them) > PCV 31.9 normal > BUN 95 high > Creatinine 5.8 high > Phosphorus was in the normal range about > midway...I don't have it in front of me but it was > ok..back in Aug. when all this started it was > actually low.. > Almost everything else was normal except liver > values somewhat elevated.. > He at this time doesn't need phosphorus > binders..We have discussed it though just in > case..They were looking at an azotemia med, but it > can't be compounded down..It is some new med that > will help keep the BUN and Creatinine lower...they > called compounding pharmacy today and it couldn't be > done...Have you heard anything about a drug like > this? Or something similiar...?? > Right now, we are going to watch him and I guess I > have to make sure he drinks enough and doesn't have > nausea..He is on transdermal pepcid daily. Any > other things that I should watch for, please let me > know... > Thanks for the info.. > Hope all your kitties are doing well today.. > Kerry, Bandy and Inky > > > - > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! > Small Business. Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: Evander Please add him to the CLS
Sherry, I am so sorry about Evander. Cindy Reasoner --- Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am so sad to say that we lost our sweet Evander > today.He was a very unique boy. :( > Thank you for your prayers. > Sherry > > > - > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
Re: Prayers needed for Inky
Kerry, I hope Inky starts feeling better soon. Wow, 20 years old. Sorry, but I really don't know anything about different diets for the kidney. I am actually just learning because Saturday I took my dog, Elvis, to the vet for a checkup and he is showing some signs of early kidney problems. He is about 11 years old now. They told me to switch his diet. I got Hills KD but that worries me because I think I have read here that Hills isn't that great of a food. I will be praying that Inky and Bandy start feeling better very soon. Cindy Reasoner --- Kerry Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have been out of touch this last week as Inky > has been sick...He is my boy that is 20yrs 3 months > and isn't felv+. Anyway, we were fighting the IBD > last weekend. I thought he was getting better, but > then he just wouldn't eat..And he never goes off his > good entirely so I took him in this last Tues..the > blood work showed again that his kidney values were > elevated..BUN and creatinine were way up..so he has > been on IV fluids since Wed. 8am til 5pm then I go > get him and bring him home for the night...Today > will be the last day and we will re-check his blood > work..Last time he stayed in the hospital for 10 > days and on IV's for about 5 of it...So this time > since he doesn't tolerate sub-q's well, this would > be faster and easier on him..He likes to ride so > that is a good thing..I think he had a little of > both IBD and kidney flare up which both made him > throw up and loose stool..He is back on his chicken > and broth, eating well...and talking to me so I > always know that is a good > sign...He is really sick when he doesn't talk at > all..It is really hard since he has to be on a > kidney diet and IBD diet as I have to try to balance > all this to keep both in check..What seems to be ok > for one isn't for the other so I have really had to > research his options so to try to keep them both > ok..Any thoughts on any of this is appreciated!!! > Please keep him in your prayers...also Bandy is a > little under the weather lately..he isn't eating as > good as I would like, but no fever. Not quite sure > what is up with him just keeping a good eye on > him... > Thanks everyone, > Head butts to all your kitties, > Kerry, Bandy and Inky > > > - > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
Re: Scooter has gone to the bridge
Peggy, I am so sorry Scooter didn't make it. Your right it doesn't take any time before they are in our hearts. Scooter left this world knowing that he was loved by you and your husband. Please try to remember the good times you spent with your precious boy. You and your husband are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Peggy Ankney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our little baby wasn't strong enough to hold on over > the weekend. The > vet called yesterday to say that his condition had > worsened. He was no > longer responding to their petting or holding him, > and didn't even stand > up during the examination, and seemed to be in much > more pain. She had > given him more pain medicine and he was basically > out of it. I asked > about the dex cocktail, and she said his kidneys > were even more enlarged > and felt hard and she didn't think it would help at > this point. My > husband and I didn't want him to continue to suffer, > so we decided to > let him go. We are comforted by the fact that he > did find us, as he > would have likely starved to death from the mass in > his mouth, so at > least we were able to help him finish this life in > comfort and warmth. > We only had him for a couple months but this little > fellow really worked > his way into our hearts, and the house seems so much > quieter now. But I > am so grateful to him for teaching us so much about > this virus, and > should another stray kitty come to us we will know a > little more about > what to do. I requested a post-mortem in case they > can learn anything > more about his condition and if there is useful > information I'll post > it. We're going to bury him in the back yard > sometime this week. Our > vet was wonderful and said that we should envision > him in his healthy 7 > pound body running around free of pain. Thanks to > all of you who have > helped us through this difficult time. Prayers for > all the kitties > still fighting this disease, and to all of the > compassionate caregivers > working so hard to help them. > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Madison -fur missing under her chin
I have been using stridex pads on her chin and it is starting to look better. I have changed her dishes. I didn't take her to the vet because she gets really scared (bless her heart) but I described it to the doctor and they agreed that it sounded like cat acne. Thanks for telling me about castor oil. I will remember that next time. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I just read on an herbalist's list serve that a very > small amount of castor > oil rubbed on feline acne is supposed to help. But > I would get it diagnosed, > and remove plastic dishes if it is. Then, if you > want to read the > herbalist's recs on this, let me know and I will > find the link. > Michelle > > In a message dated 11/10/2006 11:27:01 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hi Cindy, > It sounds like feline acne. Do you use plastic > dishes? There are other > conditions that resemble it. It's good that you are > keeping it clean, > her chin can become infected if you don't take care > of it. Here's the > first site I found when I Googled it: > http://cats.about.com/cs/healthissues/a/acne.htm > > If you suspect that's what she has, I'd treat it as > acne. If it doesn't > get better soon, take her in to the vet and make > sure it isn't something > else. > Nina > > > > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
RE: Madison -fur missing under her chin
Thanks I will do that. All of her bowls are plastic. I will go get new ones tonight. Cindy Reasoner --- Gary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, sounds like feline acne. Your vet can give you > an ointment that will help clear it up. Also, never > use plastic food or water bowls, they get tiny > scratches which harbor germs even when disinfected. > Use clean ceramic, glass, or stainless bowls daily. > My Blue had this, I was changing her water bowl and > wet food dishes each day, but didn't think about the > dish of dry food much. I now dump her dry into a > new bowl each day as well. > > Beth > > I noticed last night that my older kitty Madison has > a > some fur missing under her chin. When I looked at it > closer it looked like tiny black pieces of dirt in > the > fur that was left. It looked like flea dirt. She > never goes outside but I know we can bring in fleas. > > I haven't noticed her scratching. I tried to clean > the area really good. Her skin looked like it might > be a little dry there too. Anybody have any ideas? > Madison isn't felv+. > > Cindy Reasoner Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Prayers needed for Gus and Evander
I will be praying for Gus and Evander. I hope they start doing better soon. Cindy Reasoner --- Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi ,I was hoping for some prayers and good thought > for these 2 great guys.They are not doing so well > and are at the clinic.Thank you all so much. > Sherry > > > - > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
RE: Madison -fur missing under her chin
I thought about that. The vet had told me before with some of my other cats to use a stridex pad. I used that on her last night. I thought I would wait a couple of days to see if looked any better. Cindy Reasoner --- "Rosenfeldt, Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could it be chin acne? > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of cindy reasoner > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:51 AM > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Madison -fur missing under her chin > > I noticed last night that my older kitty Madison has > a > some fur missing under her chin. When I looked at > it > closer it looked like tiny black pieces of dirt in > the > fur that was left. It looked like flea dirt. She > never goes outside but I know we can bring in fleas. > > I haven't noticed her scratching. I tried to clean > the area really good. Her skin looked like it might > be a little dry there too. Anybody have any ideas? > Madison isn't felv+. > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > This electronic mail transmission and any > attachments are confidential and may be privileged. > > They should be read or retained only by the intended > recipient. If you have received this > transmission in error, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the transmission from > your system. In addition, in order to comply with > Treasury Circular 230, we are required to > inform you that unless we have specifically stated > to the contrary in writing, any advice we > provide in this email or any attachment concerning > federal tax issues or submissions is not > intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > to avoid federal tax penalties. > > > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Madison -fur missing under her chin
I noticed last night that my older kitty Madison has a some fur missing under her chin. When I looked at it closer it looked like tiny black pieces of dirt in the fur that was left. It looked like flea dirt. She never goes outside but I know we can bring in fleas. I haven't noticed her scratching. I tried to clean the area really good. Her skin looked like it might be a little dry there too. Anybody have any ideas? Madison isn't felv+. Cindy Reasoner Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- plus questions aboutSpaying ... Hideyo
I wonder if when I had Smokey neutered that could of triggered his feline leukemia. I don't know right off but it seems like it was about a month after his surgery he began running his fevers. We didn't know he was positive at that time because his first test came back negative. Gina I am so happy for you and Pippin that his test was negative. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would wait at least 9 or 10 months of after --- > even to a year ideally > - again I am very conservatives when coming to these > things, so others > may think I worry too much. But losing my suzi to > spaying surgery, and > knowing the fact that spaying/neutering could > trigger certain underlying > illness, I wanted to make sure that their immune > system are as matured > as it can be.. > > > > There is really nothing so bad to their body if they > go on heat once - > it will last a couple of weeks, but then it does not > do any damage to > their body.. the stress they go through heat cycle > is much much less > than stress go through form the surgery.. > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Gina WN > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test > --- plus questions > aboutSpaying ... Hideyo > > > > Hi Hideyo, > > > > How old do you think Pippin should be before I get > her spayed? She will > be 7 months old on the 25th of this month. I don't > want to rush her, > but I didn't know if I should do it before she > starts going into heat? > Your advice is very much appreciated :) > > > > Gina > > > > Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I would personally recommend that you wait to spay > her for a > little longer - I don't know how long she is.. but > unless it's > absolutely critical she does (i.e. she is pregnant > already), I really > need to ask you to wait for a several different > reasons.. especially, > now she is tested negative for the test. - and if > you still go ahead > and do it, please let me know, I have some tips to > give it to you so the > stress is reduced.. > > > > > _ > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Gina WN > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:05 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Pippin tested negative on her IFA test --- > plus > questions aboutSpaying > > > > Pippin tested negative on her IFA test for FeLV and > FIV. We > waited 22 weeks between the first test (ELISA) test > and the IFA. The > vet says she feels confident in the results for > several reasons: because > Pippin was 7 weeks old when she had her first test > and she was a faint > positive on the ELISA at that time, and because we > waited for 5 months > to retest her. I asked if there was a chance it had > gone to the bone > marrow and she felt that it was very unlikely. > Should we be > celebrating?! :) > > > > At any rate, the next step is for Pippin to be > spayed. She will > be getting the pre-lab work done, fluids during the > spay and pain > medication. Is there anything else I should ask > for? I recall > something about a certain anesthetic that is > preferable. What is the > name of it? > > > > After the spay what can I do to make her more > comfortable? She > tends to be hyper-active (as kittens are! lol) so I > was thinking of > having her stay in our room for the first day or so, > so she won't run > around the house in her usual 120 mph fashion. Or > would it be better > for her to stay in her crate? > > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated :) > > > > Thank you! > > Gina > > > > > > > > Visit my Tigger Tales <http://tiggerwiggins.com/> > site! > > > > See my cats' gallery at Zazzle > <http://www.zazzle.com/tiggerwiggins*> > > > > > _ > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=45083/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ma > ilbeta> > > > > > > Visit my Tigger Tales <http://tiggerwiggins.com/> > site! > > > > See my cats' gallery at Zazzle > <http://www.zazzle.com/tiggerwiggins*> > > > > _ > > Cheap Talk? Check out > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com > /evt=39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> Yahoo! > Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates. > > Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: Lucy very sick again
Does Baytrill help with an URI? I hope Lucy starts feeling better soon. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > My vet mentioned zithro and said it does not usually > cause GI symptoms, but > that she got so sick from the clavamox that he is > afraid to try any strong abx > right now. We gave her .25 ml of Immuno-Regulin > today, which is a pretty > low dose but he has never used it before and did not > feel comfortable starting > out higher. He thinks it won't do anything anyway, > because there are no > studies saying it does, but I know that it helps > sometimes. She came home and > had loose stool for the first time in a week, I > think because all she has been > eating is baby food, which is not great for her IBD. > But then she ate a few > pieces of her normal cooked turkey food, warmed up, > and groomed herself, > which she also was not doing the past two days. She > did the eye thing again, > though, after not doing it since last night-- I > kissed her head near her eye > (not on it though) and she kept the eye closed for a > minute or so afterwards. > > The vet thinks we are just dealing with a URI that > needs stronger treatment > than her intestines can handle, so we are walking a > fence. I think if the > I-R and fluids and TLC don't start clearing up her > nose in the next few days, > though, I am going to try Amoxicyllin and see if it > can help her beat the URI > without trashing her intestines. > > Thanks, > Michelle > > In a message dated 11/9/2006 12:51:10 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > Clavamox doesn't seem like the right thing to go > back to. Someone mentioned > Zithromax. Is there a atomic bomb type antibiotic? > Something that just > knocks the crap out of the URI, but quickly? My > thought is that any new thing > to her system will aggravate the IBD, so if you > have to introduce something, > try to lessen it's course - I don't know if there > is an antibiotic that has a > shorter course by design. > > > > > > When my vet prescribes Zithro, it is for one dose > daily for 3 days, then 3 > doses 3 days apart. In my experience, it knocks the > crap out of URI > quickly:). I like my vet to go straight to Zithro > and he will, but I'm generally > dealing with a particularly virulent form of shelter > URI that will kill cats if > messed around with, especially in kittens. > > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
Re: dirty bum bum - OT (as if it needs to be pointed out)(Chris-sorry so long)
Winston is somewhat better than he use to be. About a year ago the vet told me I needed to put him on some kind of psychotic medicine (like Prozac). I never had the prescription filled. I just didn't want him on that type of medicine especially at such a young age. I wonder if some of his behavior may come from being separated from his mother so young. I don't know where he came from but late one night we heard the dogs barking. Winston was on the other side of the fence thank goodness. He was so tiny and in very bad shape. I took him to the vet that was on call that night. He was ate up with fleas and dehydrated. She treated him and told me he might not make it through the night. I put a heat pad in 1 of the carriers and put a towel over the pad and kept him in it overnight. He made it of course and has been wild ever since. He is solid black and a couple of months ago we had our picture made for a local magazine here for Halloween. He was actually good through the whole thing. Cindy Reasoner --- Chris Behnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have two comments. First, on the issue of dirty > bum, I have a large maine > coon cat with extremely long hair. I have to > regularly trim is butt hair or > else it gets super dirty. Before I can start > cutting, I give him catnip. > This distracts him so he won't bite me. He hates > having his hair cut. > > Second, about Winston, I have a cat who reacts the > same way. Chelsea was > rescued when she was about 6 months old. We > couldn't keep her so I found > her a home with a friend of mine. After a year, he > gave her back becuase he > was moving. When she came back, she would ask to be > petted then hiss and > bite. My husband and I have been very patient. > When we pet her, we try to > stop before she hisses. After a year in our home, > she is much better. She > loves attention, and rarely ever bites anymore. Our > vet thought that she > might have been traumatized when she lived with my > no-longer friend. I just > wanted to share this with you to let you know that > there is a chance that > Winston will stop be aggressive too. > > Thanks, > Chris Behnke > > - Original Message - > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: dirty bum bum - OT (as if it needs to > be pointed out) > > > >I have a cat named Winston and I never see him > clean > > himself. He is about 2 years old now. I found > him in > > the backyard when he was just about 6 or 7 weeks > old. > > Bless his heart he is our cat with issues. He > will be > > allowing you to pet him and then turn around and > bite > > the crap out of you. I have to clean his back > side > > some. I just keep a couple of wash cloths that > are > > his and rinse with warm water and wipe him. I > didn't > > know what else to use. > > > > Cindy Reasoner > > > > --- Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> My 6 month old kitten Beatrix is medium-haired. > As > >> with many teenagers, her > >> standards of personal hygiene are not on par with > >> the rest of us (being > >> Satchmo and myself). She puts on the act of > >> cleaning herself, but I think > >> that she just copies the position that Satch gets > in > >> and has no idea what > >> she's supposed to be doing down there. She > doesn't > >> have a problem with > >> dingleberries (souvenirs of her trip to the > >> litterbox: "I went to the > >> litterbox and all I got was this stupid > >> dingleberry") to share with the rest > >> of us, but as she likes to point her tail end > toward > >> my face end, I know > >> that she needs some help with execution. > >> > >> Every few days I'll just wet a paper towel and > take > >> a few wipes to help her > >> out, but I'm wondering if any of the rest of you > >> deal with this, if you > >> think that as she matures and isn't so ADD about > >> everything, she'll get > >> better, or lastly, if there are any products > (wipes) > >> out there that might > >> have some mild soap in them that would be safe to > >> use on her. A wet paper > >> towel will start to chafe, I'd think. > >> > >> As thanks for your advice, and since I fell off > the > >> OT wagon, I may as well > >> make a bender out of it, I thought that some of > you > &g
Re: dirty bum bum - OT (as if it needs to be pointed out)
I have a cat named Winston and I never see him clean himself. He is about 2 years old now. I found him in the backyard when he was just about 6 or 7 weeks old. Bless his heart he is our cat with issues. He will be allowing you to pet him and then turn around and bite the crap out of you. I have to clean his back side some. I just keep a couple of wash cloths that are his and rinse with warm water and wipe him. I didn't know what else to use. Cindy Reasoner --- Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > My 6 month old kitten Beatrix is medium-haired. As > with many teenagers, her > standards of personal hygiene are not on par with > the rest of us (being > Satchmo and myself). She puts on the act of > cleaning herself, but I think > that she just copies the position that Satch gets in > and has no idea what > she's supposed to be doing down there. She doesn't > have a problem with > dingleberries (souvenirs of her trip to the > litterbox: "I went to the > litterbox and all I got was this stupid > dingleberry") to share with the rest > of us, but as she likes to point her tail end toward > my face end, I know > that she needs some help with execution. > > Every few days I'll just wet a paper towel and take > a few wipes to help her > out, but I'm wondering if any of the rest of you > deal with this, if you > think that as she matures and isn't so ADD about > everything, she'll get > better, or lastly, if there are any products (wipes) > out there that might > have some mild soap in them that would be safe to > use on her. A wet paper > towel will start to chafe, I'd think. > > As thanks for your advice, and since I fell off the > OT wagon, I may as well > make a bender out of it, I thought that some of you > might enjoy this: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6376594&sc=emaf&sc= > > Leslie > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Scooter's Dental Problems; continued
Have you had a urinalysis done on Scooter? It sounds like if he is urinating in strange places he may have a urinary tract infection. He may be in so much pain from the lesions in his mouth and any teeth that may need to be extracted. I would try to take him to the vet today if at all possible. Is today when he is suppose to have his dental done? Scooter, you and your husband are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- Peggy Ankney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We had a rough night. I gave Scooter some more > liver shake by an > eyedropper - he didn't seem to mind that I was > gently opening his mouth > and squirting it in. Then he slept at the foot of > my bed. Sometime > during the night he peed the bed, which is worrisome > as he's always been > so good about going to the box. I couldn't sleep > there anymore so I > took him and put him on a towel and we finished the > night in the spare > room, but he cried and growled at me as I picked him > up, as if it hurt > him to be moved. This morning I tried to put him > in the litterbox to > see if he needed to go, and he growled at me again, > stood there for a > minute and sat down in the litter. Now he's lying > on a towel at my > feet. What could this mean? He was dehydrated and > lost a lot of weight > before the first trip to the vet Monday, and he ate > some since then but > not as much as a healthy cat would eat. Could it be > the lack of > adequate food and water, or in your experience is > this a symptom of > something more serious? My husband and I are > worried - we don't want to > put him through all this suffering and it breaks my > heart to see him > like this, but he's so young! This isn't fair. > > Thanks again to everyone for all your advice. The > list has been > extremely helpful and supportive. Cross your > fingers for our little > guy! > > > Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: Lucy very sick again
Michelle, Sending prayers to you and your Lucy. I hope it isn't a tumor. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know she must seem like a yoyo or rollercoaster at > this point, but please > say prayers for Lucy. She has been extremely > lethargic since yesterday and > today only ate 1/2 a jar of baby food. She is a bit > stuffed up and her nose is a > little bubbly, so I am hoping it is just the cold > she has not shaken. I have > a vet aptmt tomorrow at 1 to get her an I-R shot. > She had some blood on her > bowels today too. I am hoping that she just has not > shaken the cold and it is > bothering her, and that the change to baby food and > getting cold meds is just > irritating her IBD. But she has some weird things, > too. Like if I pet her > head or kiss it in certain spots where I usually do, > she closes one eye and keeps > it closed for a while like something is wrong with > it. About 1/2 hour ago she > also pawed at her eye like it was hurting right > after I pet her. It makes me > worry there is something like a tumor in her head or > something. Has anyone > seen this symptom related to a cold, or to anything > else? > > She came off clavamox after only 4 days due to it > giving her bad diarrhea, > but she seemed to recover except for a slight > sniffle and occasional sneezes. > Then she really backslid starting yesterday. No > fever, and in fact her temp > today was low for her-- 100.8-- though still in low > normal range. > > Please send her prayers and energy, and let me know > if any thoughts come to > mind about what could be going on or what I should > do. > > Thanks, > Michelle > Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: Lessons learned (was: Re: Please add to the CLS - and HELP - long, sorry)
What about their cat litter? Cindy Reasoner --- Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mine was about the dangers of Hartz. Using their > flea stuff is actually > how I discovered that my first Felv+ cat was Felv+. > Thinking that if it was > on the shelf, it was safe (what a naive consumer), I > put it on Sushi and > woke the next morning to an extremely lethargic cat. > I rushed her to the > vet's office, where the vet (who I hated) berated me > for poisoning my cat - > not that he was wrong, but the condescension was a > little much in a crisis. > When they were doing bloodwork, they tested for > Felv+ and the rest is > history. She ended up recovering fully $500 later. > > Many bad things that happen are random, you could do > the same thing every > day and be fine, and if Hartz weren't known in the > vet community for being a > dangerous product, I wouldn't spread the fear, but > PLEASE don't use their > products (especially) flea stuff on any of your > animals, postivie, negative, > dog, ferret, cat, whatever. > > Okay, off the soapbox. > > Leslie > > > From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Please add to the CLS - and HELP - > long, sorry > > > > oh, my, phaewyrn, can i second that! i've learned > some of the hardest > > lessons in my life via "not knowing better" with > the cats. > > > > why we sometimes have to learn in such a difficult > way i do not know, but > > in > > passing on what we've learned from them, we honor > them every time we help > > someone else NOT learn the hard way > > > > (my biggies were finding out about what anemia > looks like, and the > > susceptibility of purrsians to pesticides ) > Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near historic lows: $150,000 loan as low as $579/mo. Intro-*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/
Re: Way OT: Flooding here in WA!
That is terrible. I have been seeing this on the news. I hope you and your family and anyone else on this list remain safe. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Just wanted to let you know the town I live by > is flooding. I've been > watching all the news local and nation wide they > are showing my town. > I can't get out or in where I'm at...which is fine > with me. My home is fine > we are high enough and hope nothing happens. The > town is Sultan, WA. > My husband had to stay at a co-worker's home tonight > because he couldn't get > home. My daughter and granddaughter were stranded > for a bit on the road that > goes through Sultan. They barely made it home before > they shut the highway > down. So I was sitting on pins and needles waiting > for their return home. > > "Belinda are you okay where your at?" > I know your over in Sumner. > > Terrie Mohr-Forker > > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS > SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE > Donations accepted at: > _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) > > > _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ > (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) > > _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) > > _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ > > (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) > > > _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ > (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) > > _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ > (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) > > _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) > > > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: ot: Antonio
I am glad Antonio's problem wasn't anything major. Although, I am sure he didn't enjoy what the vet did to him. I hope he starts feeling better soon. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > When I went home to take Antonio to the vet's...he > went in the laundry room > - turned his back end toward me, squatted over the > dust pan (something he > would NEVER do)...and assumed 'the position' for a > few minuteshe was telling > mama something is wrong. He looked like he was > trying to go potty but > nothing was going on. > > We just got back from the vet's. That poor sweet > boy had some very infected > anal sacs. I feel bad because I didn't know sooner. > They expressed them > and gave him a steroid shot and an antibiotic shot. > Antonio was such a > trooper. He loves everybody. He's not at all > afraid to ride in the car. After the > vet did what must have been a very painful > procedure - Antonio gave the vet > head butts. He loved on the vet tech too. He's > just the sweetest big ol' > boy. > > He's taking Clavamox. We go back Monday for a > check-up. > > Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? http://www.netflix.com/Signup?mqso=80010030
Re: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry
That is terrible. I didn't realize this. I can't believe a vet wouldn't ever let Sugar out. I live in East Tennesee but Memphis is on the other side of the state. Cindy Reasoner --- Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, unconscionable describes it completely! I was > working for a vet though, it wasn't my office, so I > had very little say in the matter. Before I worked > there, he NEVER got out of the cage, since I left, I > worry that is again still in that cage. I considered > breaking into the place and stealing him at one > point after I left. If anyone lives in Memphis TN. > and wants to try to free him (if we have any crazy > animal rights types on the group, LOL), I can give > you the address of the office, but it's been years > since I've been there, and I don't know if the > office is still there, or if Sugar is still there if > it is. He did save countless lives though, so at > least his life had/has a purpose If we could > create a national CAT blood bank, like now exists > for dogs, vets wouldn't have any excuse to make a > cat live that life. I'm sure that vet wasn't the > ONLY one with an office "blood donor" cat, though > most allow them to roam the office, not live in a > cage in the back. > > If you want, we can discuss it further on the Off > Topic list. :) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you have to be a member to > send to the group) > > Phaewryn > > Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency > Financial Assistance for cat owners: > http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html > Special Needs Cat Resources: > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html > Find us on PETFINDER! > http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html > - Original Message - > From: Rosenfeldt, Diane > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:36 PM > Subject: RE: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry > > > Yeesh. Now you're making me feel sad for > Sugar Didn't that arrangement seem, well, > unconscionable? > > Diane R. > > > > -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry > > > That kitten, I referred to earlier, it was a 7 > hemocrit, I guess I left that out in the message. > The vet was shocked it was alive, and we did rush a > blood transfusion, luckily (for us, not for poor > Sugar), we did keep a blood donor cat in the office. > The kitten went home the same day, after I defleaed > it using dish soap because it was too young for flea > shampoo. > > Poor Sugar, I always wonder what became of him > after I left, he was the blood donor cat, he lived > his life in a 2x2x2 cage in the kennel, except for > early mornings before we opened for about 1/2 hour, > and Sundays, while I was there cleaning kennels. > Beautiful long haired solid white deaf boy. > > Phaewryn > > Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat > Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html > Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency > Financial Assistance for cat owners: > http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html > Special Needs Cat Resources: > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html > Find us on PETFINDER! > http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html > - Original Message - > From: kelly > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry > > > At 10:09 AM 11/6/2006, you wrote: > > I am not really familiar enough to know, I just > know that the transfusion does buy you the time..and > then you can use some of these other ideas, Right > now Ido not thinkl you have the luxury of waiting > around, Just my opinion. > Kelly > > > > Thanks, Kelly. Have you ever had or heard of > a kitty coming back from a 7 hematocrit? > > kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 09:47 AM 11/6/2006, you wrote: > > > > With a crit of 7 I think stress may be > secondary. I would do the transfusion and try to buy > a bit of time...go from there. > > Kelly > > > Does anybody have any ideas? Susan(who > wrote a m
RE: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry
I know I feel bad for Sugar too. The poor baby. Cindy Reasoner --- "Rosenfeldt, Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeesh. Now you're making me feel sad for Sugar > Didn't that > arrangement seem, well, unconscionable? > > Diane R. > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jennifer > Phaewryn O'Gwynn > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry > > > That kitten, I referred to earlier, it was a 7 > hemocrit, I guess I left > that out in the message. The vet was shocked it was > alive, and we did > rush a blood transfusion, luckily (for us, not for > poor Sugar), we did > keep a blood donor cat in the office. The kitten > went home the same day, > after I defleaed it using dish soap because it was > too young for flea > shampoo. > > Poor Sugar, I always wonder what became of him after > I left, he was the > blood donor cat, he lived his life in a 2x2x2 cage > in the kennel, except > for early mornings before we opened for about 1/2 > hour, and Sundays, > while I was there cleaning kennels. Beautiful long > haired solid white > deaf boy. > > Phaewryn > > Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency > Financial Assistance > for cat owners: > http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html > Special Needs Cat Resources: > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html > Find us on PETFINDER! > http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html > > - Original Message - > From: kelly <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: PLease...need HELP - long, sorry > > At 10:09 AM 11/6/2006, you wrote: > > I am not really familiar enough to know, I just > know that the > transfusion does buy you the time..and then you can > use some of these > other ideas, Right now Ido not thinkl you have the > luxury of waiting > around, Just my opinion. > Kelly > > > > > Thanks, Kelly. Have you ever had or heard of a > kitty > coming back from a 7 hematocrit? > > kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 09:47 AM 11/6/2006, you wrote: > > > > With a crit of 7 I think stress may be > secondary. I would do the transfusion and try to buy > a bit of time...go > from there. > > Kelly > > > > Does anybody have any ideas? Susan(who > wrote a message today) has a critical situation with > her FELV baby > Valley - a beautiful flame point Siamese. Didn't > want to miss out on > any suggestions, as it was a long message. Thanks - > Gloria > > > > On Nov 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Susan > Loesch wrote: > > ... > > > And now Valley - please put him on the > special needs list - I need prayers or meditation or > chanting or > whatever you believe in -- for a remission for the > feleuk crisis he is > in. He is another of my "library cats" who comes to > work with me. He > was a rescue from a kill shelter about 5 years ago - > he was 1 or 2 at > the time. Feleuk positive. Looked like death > warmed over but once > fattened up has been so healthy that I had him > retested last year to see > if he'd reverted to neg. > > > > He began losing weight about 2 weeks ago > - gums pale as snow. Blood work shows a hematocrit > of 7 - almost not > compatible with life. He is still somewhat active - > gets off the bed to > go to the litterbox and sometimes to the rest of the > house. Will eat if > I put food in front of him. His vet thought we > could get a remission > until the blood work came back. He is getting raw >
Re: ot: Antonio
Don't feel bad. The only reason why I pay attention to Winston's litter box is because I know he tends to have this problem. If Antonio is acting better today it doesn't sound like he has a problem urinating. I know with Winston he would stay in his litter box, sometimes I would find a drop of blood and he would just lay around. If Winston isn't causing havoc in our house something is wrong with him. Good luck at the vet. I hope it isn't anything major with Antonio. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you, Cindy. I am ashamed to say that I don't > know if he has been urinating properly. With so > many covered liter boxes - it is difficult to tell. > (Maybe I need to reconsider the litter box > arrangement). This does make me think I'm doing the > right thing by taking him to the vet. Last night he > didn't have a "happy tail" - he kept it down when > he walked. He did this morning though (tail > straight up in the air while he struts). Hopefully > if there is a problem we've caught it early (she > says, hopefully). > > *Save the earth. It's the only planet with > chocolate.* > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: ot: Antonio > > > My sweet Angel Stinky was overweight when I first > got > her and could not reach back there to clean herself. > > I would have to take her to vet every 3 or 4 months > (I > think) to have her anal glands expressed. Also, my > cat Winston has problems with getting blocked and > not > being able to urinate. Has Antonio been urinating > O.K. Winston has to be on a special diet for this. > Hope everything is O.K. with your Antonio. > > Cindy Reasoner > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'm taking my big boy to the vet this afternoon. > > Last night when he got out of the litter box - he > > flopped on his side and looked up at me and cried. > > > It really startled me. I checked him out well and > > asked him what was wrong. He would just look at > me > > and make his little high pitched meow. > > > > I think part of the problem is that he is > overweight > > (22lbs but he has maine coon genes, I > believe)...and > > I don't think he can reach himself properly to > > clean. I've noticed that a couple of times and > used > > baby wipes for him. I put him in a nice warm bath > > with kitty shampoo last night and washed him well. > > > He seem to appreciate it. I saw him several times > > in the 'leg of mutton' stance trying to clean but > he > > just can't reach. > > > > It isn't often that a kitty will make that much > > effort to tell me something is wrong and so I made > > an appointment because I want to rule out a UTI, > > bowel or gland problems. I just feel like I > > wouldn't be a good mommy if I didn't have the vet > > look at him. > > > > Any thoughts on what could be the matter? > > > > How can I help my Antonio loose weight? He eats > the > > same as the other kitties -- the rest of them > weigh > > between 8-11lbs except for Phelix who weighs 18lbs > > (but is not fat - big kitty). > > > > Thanks, > > elizabeth > > > > *Save the earth. It's the only planet with > > chocolate.* > > > > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of > > free safety and security tools, free access to > > millions of high-quality videos from across the > web, > > free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > > > > Sponsored Link > > Get a free Motorola Razr! Today Only! > Choose Cingular, Sprint, Verizon, Alltel, or > T-Mobile. > http://www.letstalk.com/inlink.htm?to=592913 > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of > free safety and security tools, free access to > millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > Sponsored Link Get an Online or Campus degree Associate's, Bachelor's, or Master's - in less than one year. http://www.findtherightschool.com
Re: ot: Antonio
My sweet Angel Stinky was overweight when I first got her and could not reach back there to clean herself. I would have to take her to vet every 3 or 4 months (I think) to have her anal glands expressed. Also, my cat Winston has problems with getting blocked and not being able to urinate. Has Antonio been urinating O.K. Winston has to be on a special diet for this. Hope everything is O.K. with your Antonio. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm taking my big boy to the vet this afternoon. > Last night when he got out of the litter box - he > flopped on his side and looked up at me and cried. > It really startled me. I checked him out well and > asked him what was wrong. He would just look at me > and make his little high pitched meow. > > I think part of the problem is that he is overweight > (22lbs but he has maine coon genes, I believe)...and > I don't think he can reach himself properly to > clean. I've noticed that a couple of times and used > baby wipes for him. I put him in a nice warm bath > with kitty shampoo last night and washed him well. > He seem to appreciate it. I saw him several times > in the 'leg of mutton' stance trying to clean but he > just can't reach. > > It isn't often that a kitty will make that much > effort to tell me something is wrong and so I made > an appointment because I want to rule out a UTI, > bowel or gland problems. I just feel like I > wouldn't be a good mommy if I didn't have the vet > look at him. > > Any thoughts on what could be the matter? > > How can I help my Antonio loose weight? He eats the > same as the other kitties -- the rest of them weigh > between 8-11lbs except for Phelix who weighs 18lbs > (but is not fat - big kitty). > > Thanks, > elizabeth > > *Save the earth. It's the only planet with > chocolate.* > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of > free safety and security tools, free access to > millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > Sponsored Link Get a free Motorola Razr! Today Only! Choose Cingular, Sprint, Verizon, Alltel, or T-Mobile. http://www.letstalk.com/inlink.htm?to=592913
Re: I'm sad again.... :( Belinda can you add Jake to CLS
I am so sorry about Jake and I am sorry you have had to go through so much loss lately. You and your family are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > I had to put my 17 1/2 yr old Siamese to sleep > today. My daughter called > me and said that she thought Jake may have to go to > the Vet. He wasn't > acting right. He kept falling down and throwing up. > I called them and got him > right in. He was going into cardiac arrest and liver > failure. > He was crying which he never does. > I took him to my regular Vets I knew he would suffer > if I hung on to him. > They said he live a good life with me. That at this > point there wasn't > anything they could do for him. He started having > problems back in August with his > health. He was lying on his side and breathing hard > when I came home today. > He smelled foul. Then he starting throwing up and > his bowels were releasing. > He was quite the gentle man. I let him go with > dignity. > Bless his soul he will be met by Dukee at the > bridge > > Belinda can you add Jake to the CLS...thanks! > > Boy, this is getting tough on me. I'm trying real > hard. > My husband doesn't know yet. > 3 cats in less than a month. > > Terrie Mohr-Forker > > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS > SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE > Donations accepted at: > _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) > > > _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ > (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) > > _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) > > _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ > > (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) > > > _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ > (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) > > _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ > (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) > > _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) > > > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: one vet's thoughts on sub-q ImmunoRegulin (cindy - about diabetes)
No, I don't have a home test. Thank you for the info on this. It would be great if I could check her at home too. Cindy Reasoner --- Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you do home BG testing between blood curve tests > at the vet's office? You use a home meter and you > prick the eartip and get a very tiny blood droplet. > Here's some info about that: > http://www.sugarcats.net/sites/harry/bgtest.htm (how > to home BG test) > http://maxshouse.com/bgtest[1].mpg (video of the > process) > http://www.felinediabetes.com/bg-home-test.htm (all > about home diabetes care for cats) > Note that many of the very well put together > websites on blood glucose testing in cats are STILL > not up to date to reflect the fact that there IS NOW > a home BG meter that is ACCURATE for cats. So, if > you read a site saying that meters are not accurate, > assume they were written by someone using a HUMAN > meter on a cat, and that is unaware of the fact that > PET meters now exist. > http://www.abbottanimalhealth.com/vetProfessionals/products/DiabetesMonitoring/index.htm > (new meter just for pets) > http://www.animaldiabetes.com/ (meter just for pets) > > Oh, check this out... this would be handy, we were > just talking about collecting urine samples on this > list yesterday! > http://www.felinediabetes.com/pet-supplies/smart_cat_box.htm > > > Phaewryn > > Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency > Financial Assistance for cat owners: > http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html > Special Needs Cat Resources: > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html > Find us on PETFINDER! http://petfinder.com/shelters/VT44.html> No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.25/515 - > Release Date: 11/3/2006 > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Could you add Chatty to the CLS?
Jen, I am so sorry about your precious Chatty. I agree that this was probably the happiest year of his life. He had a home, security and a family that he could love and that loved him back. You are in my prayers. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We made the decision to say good-bye last > night...Chemo was no longer > providing the quality of life that we had all hoped > for. I just > couldn't put him through anything else. :( This > just never gets any > easier, does it? :( Chatty was arguably the "best > cat in the > world!" Just so laid back and lovable...it's just > not fair. He was > such a good guy...he sat in my partner's lap on the > way to the > emergency clinic last night and contentedly watched > the scenery go > by...he'd then look at me for awhile, then up at my > partner almost as > if he knew his time was about up and he wanted to > remember us as we > were then. I don't know where our little Chit-Chat > came from or what > he's been through...he came to us at a ripe old age > and was only with > us for a year...but I hope we helped him complete > his journey > here...his little pawprints will remain forever in > my heart. I love > you, Gettabuddy...be good and please don't forget > us! > > Jen > > > "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. > To me, you will be > unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique > in all the world; > You become responsible, forever, for what you have > tamed..." --Antoine > de Saint-Exupéry > > "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you > and you will know > each other. If you do not talk to them you will not > know them, and > what you do not know you will fear. What one fears > one destroys." -- > Chief Dan George > > "The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as > long..." --Blade > Runner > > > We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com)
