Closing list on Maclaunch, going with Google Groups 100%
Members of the G-Books list, We've moved this list from Maclaunch to Google Groups, which we see as a real improvement, 204 of 210 subscribers have already made the switch! This list on Maclaunch is now closed and being replaced by the new list on Google Groups. Google Groups functions as an email list, so if you want to keep doing things like you have in the past, that's fine. It also adds a searchable online archive plus the ability to read and reply to posts using your browser. If you wish to remain a part of this community, you need to sign up for the new list. There is no way for us to export subscriptions from Maclaunch and move them over. To sign up for the new list, go to http://groups.google.com/group/g-books There are some things about Google Groups that are a bit different, so be sure to read the updated list FAQ, which explains the subscription confirmation system and some other features, such as online subscription management. Dan Knight, listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Moving to Google Groups
Members of the G-Books list, We're slowly moving the Low End Mac email lists from Maclaunch to Google Groups, which we see as a real improvment. Google Groups functions as an email list, so if you want to keep doing things like you have in the past, that's fine. It also adds a searchable online archive plus the ability to read and reply to posts using your browser. To sign up for the new list, go to http://groups.google.com/group/g-books There are some things about Google Groups that are a bit different, so be sure to read the updated list FAQ, which explains the subscription confirmation system and some other features, such as online subscription management. Dan Knight, listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
MacBook list goes live
This week Apple delivered a dozen MacBook Pro computers to the top 12 Webkit contributors, and first shipments to the public are anticipated for the coming week, so our MacBook email list is going live this weekend. FAQ: http://lowendmac.com/lists/macbooklist.html List: http://groups.google.com/group/macbook-list Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Mac OS 9 list
I've been getting a growing number of emails asking for help finding hardware compatible with Mac OS 9, which leads me to the inescapable conclusion that it's time to create an email list for the final generation of the classic Mac OS. Whether you're using OS 9 standalone or as Classic mode within OS X, this list is for you. To join the list, which is handled by Google Groups, go to: http://groups.google.com/group/macos9 Dan Knight, listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
New Low End Mac email lists
We've created some new email lists, but they're different from the old ones. We're using Google Groups, which means you can sign up, change your status, and read postings using your browser. I hope to eventually move other lists to Google Groups as well. The Macintel list, which covers all Intel-based Macs, went live last week and has 57 members. Once the MacBook Pro ships, we're ready to launch the MacBook List. I've also set up a Mac mini List. Details: Macintel List: http://groups.google.com/group/macintel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac mini List: http://groups.google.com/group/Mac-mini-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacBook List: http://groups.google.com/group/macbook-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can join any of these lists, but the MacBook List will not go live until the MacBooks start shipping in February. Until then, all Mac-on-Intel discussion should be on the Macintel List. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Fraudulent request from List Mom
Friends, The message posted to these lists late last Friday did not come from me. Good portions of it were quoted from things I had written in the past, but I would never use these lists to look for a partner. I'm doing quite nicely with Yahoo Personals, Match.com, and eHarmony, thank you. I appreciate the notes of encouragement, but the posting was fraudulent. Someone spoofed my return address, and we are investigating. Dan Knight, List Mom, LEM Lists -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
A request from the List Mom
As many of you know, the last several years have been difficult for me and Low End Mac. Having survived the trauma of abandonment, separation, and divorce and facing down a lifetime of personal issues, I've worked through them, and rebuilt my life. I've rediscovered my faith and resumed going to church regularly. There is still an emptiness in my life that I tried to fill with online dating. While it can be fun and I've learned a lot about my likes and dislikes, it hasn't produced the deep and rewarding relationship that I have been searching for. So, once again I am turning to the lists for help. When Low End Mac was in financial trouble, the subscribers to the lists responded with generosity and moral support. This is a much narrower request and I'm asking that if there are any females on the lists who are also seeking a meaningful, long term relationship and would consider corresponding with me to see if we might be compatible. At least you'll already be a Mac user! If something develops perhaps you can come visit me in Michigan. Must love winter! It's really beautiful with the snow around here and I always have hot cocoa. Looking forward to hearing from you, Dan Knight -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
New email address for listmom
Members of the 30 Low End Mac email lists: I'm phasing out my listmom at lemlists email address because it gets far more spam than all my other addresses combined. I've created a new mailbox - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - for website and email list correspondence. I'm in the process of updating links in the headers and footers. Reminder: Be sure to mention which list(s) you're on when corresponding. With 30 lists, there's just no way I can dig through them all looking for yor subscription. Dan the List Mom -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Challenge and Response Clarification
In response to some emails received since yesterday's posting, I've updated the list FAQ to specifically state that our objection is to challenge and response anti-spam services used to filter messages from the list. This doesn't apply to individual off-list correspondence. New text: What about anti-spam services? We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to you. That said, we take a dim view of anti-spam services such as Spam Arrest and Cashette that require the sender of a message to respond to a message from the anti-spam service (a 'challenge and response' system) before allowing the recipient to receive the posting. Such a service inconveniences anyone who posts to the list and is unnecessary. These are all closed lists, so there is no spam. Only those who have requested a subscription and confirmed their subscription are allowed to post. Please don't inconvenience our members by asking them to jump through hoops to keep your mailbox spam free. Any subscriber using this kind of anti-spam service for list messages will receive one warning and be temporarily blocked from posting to the list. If the situation is not resolved quickly, the subscriber will be banned. The burden should be on the spammers, not innocent list members. Note that this applies specifically to list messages, not to individual correspondence with list members. Dan Knight, listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Computers are like air conditioners; they don't work when you open windows. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Anti-spam and the Low End Mac lists
I just received an email from a subscriber who got a challenge and response email from the Cashette anti-spam service. Such services work by blocking email from any address not on the user's white list - which means anyone posting to the list. Our lists are already spam-proofed, so please don't use a challenge and response anti-spam system on the address you use to subscribe to this list. Here's our official policy on these services: What about anti-spam services? We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to you. That said, we take a dim view of anti-spam services such as Spam Arrest that require the sender of a message to respond to a message from the anti-spam service before allowing the recipient to receive the posting. Such a service inconveniences anyone who posts to the list and is unnecessary. These are all closed lists, so there is no spam. Only those who have requested a subscription and confirmed their subscription are allowed to post. If that is not good enough for you, please don't inconvenience our members by asking them to jump through hoops to keep your mailbox spam free. Any subscriber using this kind of anti-spam service will receive one warning. If the situation is not resolved quickly, the subscriber will be banned. The burden should be on the spammers, not innocent list members. Remember, one warning. I ask that anyone posting to the list who receives a challenge and response email forward it to me with anti-spam in the subject line. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Low End Mac's Financial Crisis
To make a long story short, Low End Mac is about $6,000 in the hole due to the collapse of ad rates in early 2001. Although ad rates have recovered and we are pretty much breaking even today, we still have this huge deficit that needs to be eliminated. It wouldn't be urgent. I've been 3-4 months behind on payroll for a long time, I've taken a part-time job in a local camera store, and our family is just getting by from week to week. However, we've just entered crisis mode. We've lived in our house for 9 years. Over that time, both my wife and I have endured significant income reductions. Insurance and taxes have increased our house payments while our income has dropped, and we have not been able to keep up on a lot of small repairs. No big deal. None of them endanger anyone -- until now. The city has threatened to issue an arrest warrant and fine me because of some broken cement, a storm door with no screen (we never use that door, but it doesn't appear to matter), some branches touching the roof, and several other minor repair items that put us in violation the Housing Code. We just don't have the money. One of our sons had surgery, and our new insurance meant we had to pick up part of the tab. Then our water heater burst. Then the faucet on the kitchen sink broke and had to be replaced. Little things keep coming up, and we're barely treading water financially. I can't afford to go to jail, pay fines, or make these repairs. We are attempting to refinance our home from a 9.0% mortgage to 6.2%, and we're asking for some extra cash, but it won't be enough to cover the repairs the city wants, reshingling the roof (which is desperately needed), and taking care of some significant plumbing and electrical issues. We're asking the Low End Mac community to help out. For list members, signing up for a lemlists.com email address at $6/year helps us and provides you a very low cost email address. For a bit more, we also have lowendmac.net email addresses available, along with Web space and other services. I have decided to sell my 400 MHz PowerBook G4. It has 512 MB RAM and the original 10 GB hard drive and DVD-ROM drive. The lid and screen were just replaced under AppleCare, the keyboard was replaced some months ago, and AppleCare coverage continues through January 31, 2004. $1,200 plus shipping. I also have two 333 MHz iMacs for sale. One has 320 MB RAM and the original 6 GB hard drive. The other has 192 MB RAM (we tried more, but no luck) and a 20 GB 7200 rpm drive. These include the original iMac keyboard and round mouse. I'm trying to find copies of the original Rev. D software CDs -- these were obtained used and did not include them. I'm hoping to sell these for $400 each with local pickup. (I'd rather not pack and ship these heavy beasties.) We are also accepting donations via PayPal, the Amazon Honor System, Kagi, and e-gold. For more details about Low End Mac's financial situation and links for the above, go to http://lowendmac.com/musings/03/0814.html Thank you for your ongoing support of Low End Mac. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Life is too short to use anything but a Mac. -- Roger Ebert -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Kudos to Apple
As many of you may already know, I've had a problem with the backlight on my TiBook's screen since I first bought it -- but couldn't afford to be without it until I bought something to use while it spent a week going to Apple and coming back. Well, last week I sent it to Apple. This week it came back. Thanks to AppleCare, I have a brand new screen -- not just a backlight repair. I've also had the keyboard replaced under AppleCare when the space bar stopped working after about two years. (And my wife's had the keyboard on her 14 iBook replaced two or three times, also under AppleCare.) Desktop computer repairs are generally few, far between, and reasonably priced. Laptop are more likely to break (since they are transported), tend to be a bit more fragile to begin with (thin screens, lightweight components), and have horrendously expensive repair costs. My advice is to seriously consider AppleCare when buying a new 'Book -- and if yours is less than a year old, consider adding it before the warranty expires. The screen replacement probably would have cost at least 3x what I paid for AppleCare. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a free country we punish men for crimes they commit but never for the opinions they have. Harry Truman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Saving your own life (on eBay)
On 7/19/03 5:30 AM, Ryan Coleman posted: And I am the next Toby Maguire. eBay is not a Macy's. It's not a Hurrah's. It's a Fry's or a Best (remember that place? Not Best Buy, but Best... used to be big in the Midwest) No, more like a flea market -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Dr. Seuss -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: disappointing tiBook wireless
On 7/22/03 1:49 PM, Paul Nicholson posted: Yesterday I picked up a D-Link wireless 802.11b router for 40 dollars after rebates. I've never used wireless with my two year old tiBook. It works well if the tiBook is within a few feet of the router. If I sit at my dining room table, 35 feet away and in clear visual line of sight of the router, the connection barely works. snip The tiBook is also unusable 20 feet and one wall away in an adjacent room to the router. The titanium case of the 15 PowerBook G4 just sucks up the radio frequencies. My Belkin 802.11b router is no more than 10' from my desk, yet my PowerBook G4 rarely registered a signal strength greater than 60. That was a clear line of sight -- no walls, doors, nothing but air between me and the router. When I sent my TiBook in for service, I put the AirPort card in my wife's 14 iBook. With the signal going through a wall, she's getting a 60+ signal strength at 8-10' from the router. Attending Macworld Expos with my wife's original clamshell iBook and later with my TiBook, there was a world of difference connecting to AirPort in the press room as well. When finances permit, I'll look at using an 802.11g wireless card in my TiBook instead of AirPort, since that eliminates use of the internal antenna, which is blocked by the titanium case. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows. Sun -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Notes from the List Mom
Several topics. Please keep this email handy for future reference. When contacting me about your subscription, please be sure to tell me which list(s) you're on. We run about 30 right now, and I don't have a simple way of finding out what list(s) you may subscribe to. Three rants about capitalization: 1. Memory is RAM, for Random Access Memory. It's not Ram or ram. 2. Cycles are abbreviated Hz in honor of Mr. Hertz. KHz, MHz, and GHz are the correct abbreviations for kilohertz, megahertz, and gigahertz. 3. The computer is a Mac, short for Macintosh. MAC stands for the Machine Address built into ethernet support circuitry. As an editor, it drives me nuts to see these used incorrectly. (I guess you have to be a bit anal to be an editor) We have no control over the bounce messages generated by the Maclaunch server, nor can we manually reset the bounce counter. We cannot access the bounce counter. If you get bounce messages from the list server and your replies are rejected, try removing everything from the subject line except for the number and also deleting the entire body of your reply message. That seems to work. (I don't know why the list server refuses to acknowledge emails with attachments or styled text, but we have no control over that.) Everyone hates spam -- and we can help you fight it. Email addresses at lemlists.com are available for US$6 per year, and we use Spam Assassin to identify and label probable spam. This isn't a challenge-response system. Spam Assassin looks at the email, scores each message based on factors usually found in spam, and clearly marks them as spam in the subject line. However, it doesn't delete the spam -- it knows that it could misidentify a message, so it leaves it up to you to delete your spam. But having messages marked **SPAM** sure helps. Email addresses at lemlists.com are only available to members of our email lists, and the $6/yr helps defray hosting costs for our domains. For those who want more than just an email address, we also offer email addresses, personal Web space, and more at lowendmac.net. An email address is $12/year -- and also protected by Spam Assassin. http://lemlists.com/ for more on LEMlists email accounts. http://lowendmac.net/accounts/index.html for email and more. For the record, I invest about 40 hours a week in Low End Mac and about 20 more working part time at a local camera shop. I don't have enough time to keep tabs on everything in a timely fashion. Sometimes I don't get through the lists for a week or two. That's one of the reasons we have list nannies to help out on the busier lists. If we can generate enough income from LEMlists and lowendmac.net, I can cut back on the camera store job and dedicate more time to Low End Mac, including creating our own mailing list software that will address all of the shortcomings of the current software. Until then, it's mostly a pipe dream. I have the new list manager all outlined, but there just aren't enough hours to do much work on it, especially working 1-1/2 jobs. It's going to be the best thing going when it's done. I'll be able to see what lists you receive by typing in your email address. We'll have a single address database, so I won't have to update several lists when someone's email address changes. We'll be able to strip out the styles from styled text and the attachments, making it that much easier for everyone to post. And we'll even strip the footers that sometimes get quoted, as well as the ads some services add to outbound messages. Like I said, I have very big plans for the list software, but the only way it's going to happen is if I can cut out at least one day a week from my part time job. Signing up for LEMlist or lowendmac.net services is one way you can help that become a reality. Thanks for your support! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Atheism is a non-prophet organization. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Anyone (esp. in the UK) purchased goods from WegenerMedia??
On 6/19/03 3:42 AM, Andrew McCall posted: I was looking for a replacement CDRW/DVD-ROM Drive, some more memory and some replacement rubber feet for a Pismo laptop I bought from eBay. After searching the web and reading recommendations on this list I found everything I wanted could be bought at http://www.wegenermedia.com/ On the 20th May I ordered the parts and paid for the correct delivery to the UK and paid straight away via PayPal. The money has been debited from my credit card, by PayPal and I can see that in my PayPal account that its gone to wegnermedia.com. I received receipts via email and I was happy with the order. About 2 weeks ago I was starting to wonder where my delivery had got to, so I tried to contact them. I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] a detailed description of my order asking for an update. By Tuesday the 10th June I hadn't had a reply, so I sent another email that day. I still haven't had a reply, I am without the items I ordered and paid for. Has anyone here, or in the UK had any dealings with wegenermedia.com? Problems with Wegener Media are not unknown on our PowerBook lists. The company has some downright weird policies -- you can order over the Internet, but you can only contact customer service by telephone. Not email. Not mail. Not fax. Only by phone. Until recently, the owner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was on our PowerBook lists, where he has consistently blamed the customer for every complaint made on the list -- and often gone on to threaten legal action against his customer and Low End Mac for allow such defamatory postings on the list. David Wedge is no longer welcome here. Low End Mac no longer links to Wegener Media deals in our weekly 'Book Review. We want nothing to do with them and cannot recommend doing business with anyone who so abuses their customers. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
iChat AV
On 6/25/03 7:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: this is from i-chat help: Select your buddy in the Buddy List, and then choose Buddies Invite to One-Way Video Chat One-way video chats are available if both buddies have cameras connected to their computers. I tried to one way with a buddy, but the option to invite to one-way video chat is dimmed, and what kind of sense does this makeOne-way video chats are available if both buddies have cameras connected to their computers.? If we both had cams then why would you one-way? the option to one-way might be dimmed due to my cpu, i'm using a pismo with the g4 500mhz upgrade. You can do one-way video if only one iChat AV user has a webcam. I know. I did it. That said, if you have any type of firewall or your buddy does, you need to open the right ports for the audio and video signals to get through. We posted an article about it on Low End Mac yesteray: http://lowendmac.com/10/03/0624.html -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: iTunes Importing
On 6/7/03 1:20 AM, Clyde Kahrl posted: I find it interesting that there are complaints about MP3 Quality. I remember when CDs first came out. They were really really awful. Portions of some recordings sounded like fingernails on chalkboards to me. This is because taking good music and converting it to digital seriously degrades the recording--particularly when you only sample at 44khz. Nonsense. It's because digital recording, mastering, and playback were in their infancy. The engineers were learning as they went along. Just as some of the early half-speed mastered LPs were horrid, once the engineers learned how the process differed from what they had done before, things got a whole lot better. Oversampling can produce a superior product, but you have to remember that the playback system only handles 14 bits per channel at 44 KHz, most audio hardware is only designed for the 20 Hz to 20 KHz range, and few speakers have decent response beyond about 12-15 KHz -- the upper limit of hearing for most of us and one-third the sampling rate of CDs. There's nothing inherent in the process of digitizing sound that degrades things. Just pop a CD of the Beatles or old analog material from Elvis, the Beach Boys, Sinatra, or the Stones to hear how much better old music can sound when it's been properly remastered for digital media. Over time, these have improved but modern CDs are still not comparable to the output of modest hi-fi equipment from the late 70s. Yes, the days of Shure cartridges, Dolby B noise reduction, paper cone drivers, and 18 gauge speaker wire. I sold high end audio on the early 1980s, and I can tell you that Bose makes a desktop radio today that sounds better than some of the $5,000-plus audio systems I sold -- and you don't need to be sitting in the right spot in an optimized room to benefit from the sound. Some MP3s really stink because of the really awful encoding out there. I have never encoded using iTunes, so I don't know if it is reasonably good or not at encoding. I would think you would want variable bit rate and so forth--and I'm not sure it has that. And I don't know how to control the dynamic range. First, there's no reason to control the dynamic range, since that's already established by the CD you're acquiring the sound from. Second, you can select one of three default encoding rates (128, 160, or 192 Kbps) or choose a custom setting that lets you specify the bit rate between 16 and 320 Kbps, enable variable bit rate, choose from 7 quality settings, pick a sampling rate between 8 and 48 KHz, and filter subsonics (10 Hz and lower). Some MP3s stink because people don't understand the process. Sure, a 64 Kbps file will be small and load quickly, but it's not going to sound very good. And some types of music are more demanding of even higher quality than others. I suspect it's a lot like digital photography. Every time you go through some digital conversion process you lose a whole bunch of information/data/whatever. Maybe if you went direct from mike to MP3 you would have less of a problem than going from CD to MP3. Digital photography suffers primarily from its reliance on JPEGs, which are not only lossy, but only support 8 bits per color channel. 24-bit color is fine for output on your computer screen, but you tend to lose detail in bright areas and shadows. However, most digicams let you decide whether to record in JPEG format or something better, such as RAW or TIFF. The amount of information lost depends on your settings, as is true of digital recording and MP3 compression. Recording directly to MP3 doesn't strike me as a particularly smart thing if you want quality. Just as taking a digital picture with high JPEG compression creates a noisy photo, MP3 is also a lossy compression scheme. It's the nature of lossy compression schemes to create an inferior product, but there's nothing inherent in the digitization process itself that necessarily creates an inferior image or sound file. But when you say that MP3s are bad, I can't help but suggest that CDs are bad, so what do you want? I'd like a reality check. Stop listening like an engineer. Listen like a fan or a musician. It may break you of the endless upgrade cycle of the audiophile snob -- the kind of people I used to make good money from. The first rule of audiophile sales is that every improvement leads to another, because each better component magnifies the minuscule flaws in other components in the system. In reality, few audiophiles are ever completely satisfied -- yet most average consumers are. There is such a thing as being too picky for your own good. Dan the listmom, retired audiophile -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software
Cheap 802.11b (AirPort compatible) hub
Checking on 802.11g stuff from Belkin -- top rated in the recent Macworld for throughput, btw -- I found a link for refurbished hardware available directly from Belkin. http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatSectionView.process?Section_Id=1982 Choose Network. Item is Wireless Cable/DSL Gateway Router F5D6230rw3 Would you believe an 802.11b (AirPort compatible) switched router for $50 plus $7.50 shipping? I've been having problems with my Hawking router, ordered the Belkin, and set it up yesterday. It's nice to have AirPort, even nicer to have what may be a more reliable router. The router supports cable modems and DSL. It has one WAN port plus three switched 10/100 ports -- one goes to my 10Base-T network and the other to my switch for 100Base-T machines. If you're looking for a low cost router at all, this is a steal. If you'd like low cost support for AirPort, this is a steal. If all you need is a 3 port 10/100 ethernet switch, it's a bit much. But to get all of that in one package for $30 is impressive. No, it doesn't support the higher speed of AirPort Extreme. Yes, 3 ports aren't a lot -- but you can daisy chain hubs and switches if/when you need more ports. Someday I'm sure I'll go 802.11g (AirPort Extreme), but 802.11b is faster than my Internet connection, so I'm very happy with the performance and price. While you're there, you may also want to check out Belkin's refurbished USB products. I picked up a powered hub for $4.99. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Speaking Up (was Re: 12 Speed)
On 6/6/03 12:50 PM, Scott Howe posted: Ill tell you why I have a right to complain. Because I bought one of Apples products and as a consumer of a huge, profitable, powerful CAPITALIST corporation's (in your own words) product, consumers like me call the shots, not the corporations themselves. A products quality makes or breaks a company, not the companies rules and regulations concerning the ability to discuss it or not. Scott, you miss the point. Yes, you have a right to complain to Apple. Yes, you have a free speech right to complain in public. What you do *not* have is the right to post anything you want to Apple's boards. Different venues have different rules. Our email lists are not moderated, nor do we remove messages from the archives (truth be told, we couldn't if we wanted to). However, we do restrict posting to members of the list, and we sometimes have to ban people for breaking the rules. If you want to complain about your 12 'Book here or on your own space, there's not a thing Apple can do to stop it. But if you violate their terms of service on their boards, expect them to pull your comments and threaten to block you. If you want to get Apple to act, follow their rules in their forums, make your case clearly (that includes checking spelling, grammar, and punctuation -- do you have a thing against apostrophes?), and give them a chance to respond reasonably. Flaming, trolling, attacking the company -- these will get you nowhere. Instead, position yourself as working in Apple's best interest by pushing them to resolve an issue that has given them a black eye. You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. And the same definitely applies here. People who go off the deep end when the list mom or one of the nannies issues a warning are for more likely to be banned than anyone else. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
OS X on WallStreet
On 5/28/03 3:30 PM, Christopher Hack posted: Can't understand all the fuss about running OSX on a WallStreet. I have a WallStreet with an upgraded hardrive (80gb Travelstar) - no magnetic sleep problems. I bough 512mb ram cheaply on Ebay - again no problems. I also run OSX, and it is absolutely fine. So my advice would be to go ahead and do it! The fuss is that some WallStreets simply will not allow installation of OS X without a third-party utility such as XPostFacto -- this despite the fact that Apple claims the PowerBook G3 Series is fully supported by OS X. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a free country we punish men for crimes they commit but never for the opinions they have. Harry Truman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Digital camera... or not
On 3/31/03 3:57 PM, bramke posted: I want to introduce myself into the world of digital photos, mainly family snapshots for screen and webuse I have a 8600/G3 with all PCIslots filled, and no USB available, and a Powerbook G3 Kanga (not cardbus compliant) snip So what are my options ??? The only option I can come up with is the use of a PCMCIA adaptor for CompactFlash cards (or other memory cards) but I have some questions with this : * Pro/con of this route ?? Pro: If you go with Compact Flash, it's cheap and fast. About $12.95 for the PC Card adapter. Avoid Smart Media at all costs -- PC Card adapter is vastly more expensive. It's also very, very fast. * Is this possible in the 16bit PCMCIA slots of the Kanga ?? Should be, since these are standard PC Cards, not CardBus devices. * Do I need special software to read the cards, or do they just show up on the desktop like a CD ?? Should show up right on the desktop. That's the way it worked in my TiBook and my wife's old WallStreet. May depend on what version of the Mac OS you're using though. * Can I write to the CFcards (backup, I've read of booting from them, what about formatting them) ?? Definitely. I use an old 8 MB card that's been formatted HFS+ to move files. Remember that if you format the card in your Mac, you will have to reformat it in the camera before you can use it in the camera. I don't suggest formatting a CF card on the Mac unless you plan to use it only for computer purposes. * What's the maximum size of CFcard the Kanga can handle (I've read about type I and II)?? 4 GB, which costs a lot more ($1500) than your Kanga is worth. ;-) * Difference between CF and the others (Smartmedia,...) which seem to require more expensive adaptors, any preferences ?? CF is highest capacity and has been available for ages, is supported by more cameras than any other format, and costs less than newer media types (xD Picture, SD). SmartMedia and Memory Sticks are limited to 128 MB; CF, xD, and SD do not have this limitation. * Are there any other things to consider going this route ?? Or other possibilities (SCSI) ?? Have heard of SCSI adapters, but they are rare and costly. Without USB on either machine, a CF card for the PCMCIA slot in your Kanga is definitely your best bet. For a good introduction to digital photography and choosing the right camera, head over to Low End Mac's sister site, digigraphica.com -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net -- insert clever tagline here -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Digital camera
On 3/31/03 5:54 PM, Ryan Coleman posted: I disagree. I work in a photolab and to get the kind of shots that are reprintable to the size needed to match 35mm would cost you between $3500 and $7500 right now. Stick with film, maybe get a SCSI negative scanner if you need it. But don't go digital yet. I do sports photography and I always have a 35mm backup to my Nikon D100 just in case something goes awry. The battery in the digital needs to be recharged once a week, but my 35mm has had the same 4AA's for the last three years (I shoot about 500 rolls of 35mm a year). I can't figure out which post Ryan is responding to. I work half-time in a local camera shop, where I'm a 35mm and digital expert. At this point, digital can match the quality of film unless you're shooting with a 4x5 camera. There are lots of variables in digital photography, but the most important one is megapixels. Even a lowly 1 megapixel (MP) camera will give you just great 4x6 snapshots. I've made reasonably sharp 5x7s from my 1.3 MP Canon PowerShot A50. Part of this depends on how you're making your final print. If you're using a color inkjet printer, a resolution of 180-200 dots per inch in the original file is fine. Using the lower figure: 4 x 6 = 720 x 1080 pixels = 0.78 MP 5 x 7 = 900 x 1260 = 1.13 MP 8 x 10 = 1440 x 1800 = 2.6 MP 11 x 17 = 1980 x 3060 = 6.0 MP 20 x 30 = 3600 x 5400 = 19.4 MP Of course, 20 x 30 poster prints tend to be viewed from further away, so 150 dpi resolution would be fine, which requires 13.5 MP. Today's top-end digital SLR from Kodak has a 14 MP imager. If you're going to print out using a large inkjet system, you could easily pull off a 20 x 30 poster. For other processes, such as dye sublimation or wet printing (producing the final print on photographic paper), you need higher resolution. A local lab does top quality work when customer files are provided at 250 dpi 4 x 6 = 1000 x 1500 = 1.5 MP 5 x 7 = 1250 x 1750 = 2.2 MP 8 x 10 = 2000 x 3000 = 6 MP 11 x 17 = 2750 x 4250 = 11.7 MP 16 x 20 = 4000 x 6000 = 24 MP The difference is because of the way inkjet prints tiny dots to the screen while other processes are dye-based. For the better quality output, you have to double the number of pixels. If you're having prints done in a digital minilab, these are the figures you want to use. You can get excellent 8x10 dye-based prints from 5 MP cameras and the few 3 MP FujiFilm models (such as the 601 and 602) that create 6 MP files within the camera. The same may apply to the Sigma SLR with the new Foveon imager. But for sharpest results, a camera with a 6 MP or better imager will do the job. There are some models available for as little as $500 than can produce 6 MP files (the Fuji 601), although the zoom range is somewhat limited. If you want the ability to change lenses, you're looking at $1,500 minimum for a camera body, such as the just announced 6 megapixel Canon EOS 10D. Unless you're doing large art prints, 6 MP should be plenty of quality. The step beyond that is Kodak's 14 MP beastie ($4,000 plus the cost of Nikon-mount lenses), which can easily create a gorgeous 12 x 18 miniposter using dye-based processes or a very nice 20 x 30 print using inkjet technology. Unless you can justify the expense of a $1,500 camera body, serious photographers may as well stick with film for the next year or two. Minolta has a wonderful new $300 film scanner that all the computer and photo magazines are raving about; with it you can create 11 MP files from your 35mm slides or negatives. (Also a great way to get the best of your old images into your computer.) Film vs. digital depends on your needs. For the average snapshooter, a 2 MP camera is all they'll ever need. For those who might make an 8x10 once in a while, a 3 MP camera will do the job. But for demanding photographers, you really want 5 MP as a realistic minimum -- and a lot more than that if you plan on going beyond the 8x10 level of print. (BTW, guess which Mac geek was a camera geek before he got involved with computers?) -- Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books
Re: Quick OT Query w/ Apologies
K. writes: Apologies up front...In addition to my trusty Pismo emac Performa 5200 I have an IBM Thinkpad 560 that has a slightly ruined LCD screen...I am looking to get a replacement for the screen on ebay...Is anyone on the list aware of how hard it is to try to replace it on a DIY basis rather than taking it to a shop ..also does anyone know of a help list for pc laptops? Folks, this is not an invitation to discuss sources for PC laptop parts on the list. K asked for help finding a list like this for ThinkPad users. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: DVD-ROM for CD equiped Lombard?
Jeremy Derr writes: chalk another one up to mismatched code-names. i kept saying lombard but talking about wallstreets. yet another reason i prefer to speak only in actual product names. Such as PowerBook G3, PowerBook G3 Series, PowerBook G3, and PowerBook for the Kanga/3500 and WallStreet/Mainstreet models and Lombard and Pismo. Or original PowerBook G3, G3 Series, Bronze Keyboard, and FireWire. Or the one that isn't supported for OS X vs the heavy old ones that run OS X vs. the lighter one that replaced it vs. the one with FireWire. Clear as mud. ;-) It's because Apple's product naming conventions since the return of Steve Jobs have been so ambiguous that we use code names here, revision numbers and MHz ratings when referencing iMacs, and so on. Apple's simplification of the product line has created a heck of a lot of confusion. And to help everyone out, we even clarify which model is which on the list FAQ. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Monthly reminder from Mom and something new
Monthly reminders and something new: 1. If you have problems with your subscription -- switching mode, unsubscribing, etc. -- email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] An please mention the list(s) you're on so I know where to look. We are running over 30 lists these days. 2. If your messages are being rejected by the server, read the bounce message. It will explain why. Attachments (including Vcards), styled text, multipart messages, and non-standard character sets are all possible reasons a message may be rejected. Not changing the subject when replying to the digest is another. (Reply to a single message, not the whole digest -- change the subject line.) 3. We have 30-some lists, most of which have more members today than ever before. There are almost always new people on the list. Be considerate of them. 4. Quote selectively. Never quote the entire original message right down through the footers. Never. Only quote the relevant bits you're responding to. And always quote enough of the original message that we have some idea what you're responding to. 5. We encourage bottom posting on our lists. That means you post your response *following* the quoted bits you are responding to. Whether you do this by interleaving your response between paragraphs or in a single chunk at the end of the email is your call. 6. When a thread changes subject, change the subject line. 7. I've added a page listing the guidelines used by the list managers (mom and nannies) as well as the responsibilities of list members. This is now linked from the FAQ of each list with the following paragraph: The list is expected to handle things responsibly, and members are expected to behave in such a way that the list requires minimal administrative intervention. When action is required, the list mom and nannies will act in accordance with our Rules of List Management. This page also defines terms (ban, block, flame, troll, etc.) and lists the responsibilities of subscribers. The rules are posted at http://lowendmac.com/lists/rules.html -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing G-Books digests
Due to some unforseen circumstances and the need to move the LEMlists server to a new location, I've missed some digests over the past weeks. If anyone on the list can redirect or forward copies to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd be most grateful: Digests #1126 #1129 Hoping this is the end of these problems. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Computers are like air conditioners; they don't work when you open windows. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Mising G-List digests
Due to some unforseen circumstances and the need to move the LEMlists server to a new location, I've missed some digests over the past weeks. If anyone on the list can redirect or forward copies to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd be most grateful: Digests #626-628 #648-651 #654 Hoping this is the end of these problems. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Random Notes from the List Mom
It's a sunny, chilly February day in Michigan. Some of the snow is slowly melting. And I'm as caught up with the last 7-10 days worth of list messages as I can be. Due to some configuration changes (specifically changing the IP address of the server itself), I've missed all list messages from sometime Thursday morning until earlier today. I don't know what's been going on on the lists, and one of the nannies is sending copies of several digests to me. Once I receive those, I'll send out a plea for missed digests. I'm working with the nannies to establish more specific policies on when, why, and how we ban and/or block subscribers, deal with violations of list policy, etc. If we decide to make these available to the public, I'll send out a general announcement. If you want to be unsubscribed from a list, change to digest mode, or change your email address -- and the list server is uncooperative -- first check that you are using the same address you used to subscribe. If it still doesn't work, be sure to mention the name of the list(s) you want updated. BTW, there is no automated process for changing your email address. Subscribe from the new address, confirm the subscription, wait for messages to start coming in, and then unsubscribe from the old one. Once our own list server software is up and running, this and other things will be much easier to do both via email and using a browser. We are offering $6/year email addresses at lemlists.com, which is not run on our very own server. The server is hosted by Coleman Web-Internet Services, and Ryan Coleman is the system administrator. More details at http:/lemlists.com/. These addresses are only offered to members of our email lists. We will also be offering email addresses, webspace, and other services using the lowendmac.net domain shortly. We should even be able to handle publication of iCal calendars and provide iTools-like access to your storage space. More details on that soon. Finally, there has been some question as to what is on topic and off topic on our lists. If the question involves a computer covered by the list, it's almost undoubtedly on topic. This includes getting software and printers to work. If it involves politics, it's definitely off topic. Let's try to stick to Macs and the programs we run on them and the peripherals we use with them. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net You shouldn't need a Passport to use the World Wide Web. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Excruciatingly slow printing in OS X
I cannot believe how s-l-o-w printing to my Epson Stylus Photo 870 printer is. I've got a 400 MHz TiBook, 512 MB of RAM, Mac OS 10.2.3, and a fast 20 GB IBM hard drive (one of the 5400 rpm models - zoom). Under OS 9, the Stylus would pop out one page after another. Under OS X, it stops for a long time between sheets. Probably takes 4 times as long to print a multiple page job. Any suggestions on how this might be improved? Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net You shouldn't need a Passport to use the World Wide Web. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing G-Books Digests
Catching up on email and list archiving, I've discovered that I'm missing some digests. G-Books Digest #1029 G-Books Digest #1034 If anyone on the list could redirect or forward copies, I'd be most grateful. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
List Focus
Christopher Hack writes: can whoever moderates this list ensure that the discussion sticks to powerbooks, and not politics, nasa, challenger, etc etc. As you should have read in the FAQ when you joined, this is a closed, unmoderated mailing list. To prevent spam, only members may post. To keep things flowing and avoid becoming responsible for anything posted to the list, it is not moderated. Thus we are unable to prevent any list member from posting anything. That said, we do have rules against postings on politics, religion, or pro-Windows. List rules are generally enforced in the background and only after the fact. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Excruciatingly slow printing in OS X
mac writes: I am using a photo stylus 1200 and downloaded all the new drivers off of epson for it. How silly of me to assume that because OS X recognized the printer that it had the right drivers installed. I downloaded Epson's drivers, installed them (what a process!), restarted the TiBook (grr), and am printing nearly as fast as I used to in OS 9. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Notes from the List Mom
We've been having problems with the LEMlists mail server since January 6. I downloaded a boatload of email last night (well over 100 messages after first culling spam), discovered how many digests I'm missing, and have already sent out requests for those. I also have 10 days worth of listmom messages to wade through, which will be my top priority once the morning site update for Low End Mac is done. Just a few reminders: * If you can't unsubscribe or change subscription mode, contact me or one of the nannies (only the busier lists have nannies). * There is nothing we can do about the warning messages saying Maclaunch was unable to deliver messages. This is out of our control. * If you can't post to the list, you should get a bounced message explaining why. The main reasons are: 1. You are sending from an unsubscribed address. 2. You are sending styled text or a message with an attachment. You can only post from a subscribed address, and the server has been instructed to refuse anything other than plain text email. Dan the Listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing, and what a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization. -- Petronius -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Thanks for missing digests
Wow, what a great list. I've already received 3 copies of the missing digests nicely redirected to my email account. Thanks a bunch! Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Update to missing G-Books digests
In looking things over more closely, I have received 2 or 3 copies of almost all the missed digests. Still need the following: G-Books Digest #1029 G-Books Digest #1034 TIA - Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing G-Books Digests
We've had some long-term outages with the lemlist mail server, and I've missed a boatload of digests from the various lists. If anyone on the list can redirect (a feature some email programs have and others don't -- it's different from forwarding) copies of the following digests to me, I'd really appreciate it. G-Books Digest #1026 to #1035 G-Books Digest #1037 to #1042 Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Dr. Seuss -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Fan of Fanless
Stephen Bright writes: So as I embark on my migration from several Umax towers to a Pismo, I'm wondering how much of my old gear I can bring with me. The only requirement is that it doesn't make a sound. (I almost went for the Cube instead of Pismo for its totally fanless operation, but the Pismo won out for the ease of mobile audio recording.) 1) I have a nice internal 80 GB Barracuda 3.5 ATA drive that I'd like to recycle as a Firewire drive for the Pismo, but I'm wondering if there is such a thing as a fanless case for it. WiebeTech recently announced such a case, the Desktop GB+ http://wiebetech.com/ Not cheap at US$139.95. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Missing G-Books digest
The lemlists.com mail server was down for a while last week, so G-Books Digest #1014 never reached me. If someone on the list could redirect or forward a copy to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd be most grateful. Thanks! Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: length of sig files
Joe Ellis writes: On 12/16/02 10:36 PM, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ::adds maturity to list of qualities of this list:: im just waiting to get kicked off, so i dont have to go through the effort of taking my self off. On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 10:34 PM, Sque wrote: How much longer do we have to put up with this crap? Take it off list or do you need instructions dickhead? Please, list Mom, grant him his wish and kick him off I wouldn't want him to have to expend any effort and I don't want to expend any more on him either. I wish he'd asked earlier instead of subjecting us to so many juvenile rants -- and his inability to use a shift key. Wish granted. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Mac OS 9 vs. X
David M. Ensteness writes: Is this an honest question or a troll? Mac OS Anything vs. any version of Windows (or *nix for that matter) is a troll and specifically declared off topic on this list. This list is for supporting Mac users on the Mac OS, either classic or X. I say that because Mac OS X has been out for two years and every review of 10.2 says that it is incredible. MacWorld, MacAddict, PC World, PC Magazine, TechTV, heck its hard to find someone who doesn't think its the most incredible OS there is. I haven't migrated to Jaguar yet -- Apple wants too much money for a single copy, and the five-user license is currently out of the budget. I'm running OS X 10.1.5 on a 400 MHz TiBook with a 5400 rpm 20 GB IBM TravelStar drive and 512 MB of RAM, but more often than not I'm running Mac OS 9.2.2 on it. OS X may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, and Jaguar would be the butter-topped version of that bread, but the OS is only part of the equation. My computer handles OS 9 beautifully. 400 MHz is plenty of speed. The new drive and half gig of memory helps with OS X, but it's still sluggish. I hate to imagine using it on a stock WallStreet, Lombard, Pismo, or sub-600 MHz iBook. But my hardware is adequate, so that's not the reason I stick with 9. Mac OS X is pretty much bulletproof. One crash this year. Almost no need to ever restart the computer -- except for all those damned OS updates and software installers that require you to do so. What's up with that? All of my peripherals works with OS X -- but I can't choose paper trays in my HP LaserJet 2100TN. That's a problem when you have letterhead in one drawer and plain paper in another. SOFTWARE iTunes 3 blows iTunes 2 into the weeds. I boot into X specifically so I can rip my CDs in iTunes 3 and organize things. It's also much better for burning CDs. One point for OS X. I want to use Mail under Jaguar, but not until then. It may replace Claris Emailer and PowerMail. I hope so, but won't know until I try. Future point for OS X 10.2. AppleWorks is very nice under X. No real drawbacks vs. classic version. Call this a draw. Most classic applications run just as well under classic mode as they do natively in OS 9. But Claris Home Page, which is my main productivity application, doesn't. Uploading changes takes 2-4x longer in classic mode. Sure, I can move that to the background and work in a 10-native application during uploads, but that doesn't change the fact that it's slow. One point against OS X. I use CopyAgent to intelligently copy files between my working partition and a backup folder on another partition. It's smart enough to only copy files that are different. And if I really make a mess of things, I can recover the old version of a file by trashing the messed up one and synchronizing my main and backup folders. I don't know of a way to do this in X, so one more strike against. I absolutely love Default Folder and don't relish the prospect of paying for a new version. Maybe a half-point against here. Ditto for upgrading to QuicKeys for OS X. It's the cost. And I'll also have to upgrade my Retrospect backup software and client licenses. Cost is a big factor, especially for low-end Mac users. Finally, although OS X is as stable as you can imagine, OS X applications aren't. Believe it or not -- and it surprised me -- Internet Exploder 5.1.x is more stable under OS 9.x than IE 5.2.x is under OS X. Ditto for iCab. These two applications, both of which I use daily, work better under the classic Mac OS than under 10. I want to like OS X more. I want to switch. I toy with the idea of using it for a week, then a day, then give up and go back to what's more productive for me: booting in OS 9. This isn't a matter of religion or preference. I am measurably more productive in 9. Until I can find a nice sync utility, until Internet Explorer stops exploding, until Home Page runs better (maybe under Jaguar?) or can be replaced by a comparable X-native app, I'm sticking with 9 as my work environment. Once those obstacles are out of the way, however, I intend to adopt X as my full-time OS. It has a lot going for it, but my applications get in the way of it being the best OS for me at the present time. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net You can't brew a premium lager with a kool-aid mentality. -- The Red Green Show -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: length of sig files [OT]
B.J. Major writes: Sayeth Obi-Wan: A person's signature is personal. As long as it is not profane and less than 10 lines or so, then it is fine. No, that is wrong. Go back and restudy, do not pass GO. Since the early days of the internet, no sig file is supposed to be more than SIX lines of plain text *maximum*. Here's an idea -- why not read the list netiquette page instead of debating in a vacuum? Here's what it says: Please keep your signature concise. Six lines or less is best. http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft Windows instead of Unix? How 20th century! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Cause of spurious subscription requests
Wooohooo - we finally got to the bottom of this one! Somehow the [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses had become subscribed to several of our email lists. I don't know how that could have happened, since we require confirmation of all subscriptions, but it did. The result: Every time someone posted to that list, a copy of their email went to the subscribe address, and the list server sent out the usual reply to a subscription request. It wasn't a list configuration matter at all, nor was it anything that should have been able to happen. Live and learn. I'm going through the lists one by one to make sure these addresses are removed. This should be the end of the matter, but if you do get any confirmation emails after this, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Making choices
I'm sure you're all aware of the campaign by Rick Bauer to destroy Low End Mac by telling our advertisers what a terrible site we are for allowing our writers to share some opinions Mr. Bauer disagreed with. http://www.lowendmac.com/musings/02/1030.html The fruits of his campaign: Other World Computing and Crucial Memory were among many sites receiving emails from Mr. Bauer, Russ Arcuri, and possibly others. Both sites contacted us, learned that we were moving such content elsewhere, and continue to support Low End Mac with ads and/or affiliate fees. Mac Zone, Mac Mall, and Verizon DSL have removed us from their affiliate programs without ever contacting us (or if they did, their emails either didn't survive our spam filtering or were not sent as plain text email). I removed all links to Mac Zone about a week ago and all links to Mac Mall tonight. I don't have details of our dealings with Mac Zone, but my records show that over the past year we have generated 16,000 visits, 100 purchases, and nearly $60,000 in sales volume. I am disappointed that they would give this up without saying a thing to us. I recommend that if you value Low End Mac, you take your business to dealers who support our site -- OWC, Crucial Memory, Small Dog Electronics, PowerMax, Club Mac, and MacResQ among them -- and not support businesses such as Mac Mall, Mac Zone, and Verizon DSL that have pulled their support from Low End Mac. If you do choose to boycott any of these businesses, you might want to tell them why. What goes around comes around. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Life is too short to use anything but a Mac. -- Roger Ebert -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
BeerBooks, Insurance, and List Nannies
P.F.Grenier writes: Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the function of a list nanny to step in and keep things on topic and stop controversy from getting out of hand? Obi-Wan frequently adds fuel to the fire. The function of the list nannies is to oversee the lists and try to keep things on topic, to keep things civil, and to ban subscribers as necessary (short-term or permanently) for serious violations of netiquette and/or list rules. The nannies are also active members of the lists and entitled to share their opinions, just like the rest of the subscribers. We try to have 2-3 nannies for each list in addition to the list mom so that the nannies can moderate each other as well. Kyle raised questions about the ethics of an insurance claim, which lead to a sometimes heated, sometimes enlightening discussion of the various types of insurance policies, the cost of insurance fraud to consumers, and several other topics. You have done your own bit to escalate things, so please don't be so sanctimonious in your postings. Thank you. Dan the listmom, catching up on email -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Mom on confirmation requests, SpamCop, servers
This is my monthly reminder that the list server at maclaunch.com remains screwed up and often sends out spurious confirmation messages. There is nothing we can do about this at present. Please don't send me email asking about it. I can't fix it. I can't. We are also having some problems with the lemlists.com domain, which we had set up to handle the mailing lists. Without our knowledge or permission, the people running the server have begun using SpamCop to filter incoming email. We find this unacceptable, as people we do business with are now unable to contact us via email. We are looking into alternate hosting solutions for our domains. For most of our domains, we have a huge variety of hosting options at $10/month or so, but we want to be able to offer low-cost email accounts on lemlists.com -- and email plus Web/file storage space on lowendmac.net. If any of you can suggest a good hosting service that will let us sell email addresses at reasonable annual rates, sell online space to users, etc., I'd be happy to hear more -- please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (If that doesn't work due to SpamCop, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: powerbook opinion
Jeremy Derr writes: 1) G3 Processor as opposed to the G4 Processor - not really much of a difference at this stage, as many applications do not take advantage of the Altivec instruction set in the G4. Altivec is not the only difference between the G4 and G3. Generally speaking, a G4 is a faster processor at the same clock speed ... not by much, but the difference is there. The G4 system also has a faster system bus than the iBook, IIRC, and supports more memory (max 640MB in iBook, max 1GB in G4). Let's not get confused comparing apples and oranges, CPUs and the computers they go in. When the G4 was first introduced, benchmark after benchmark found it was no faster than the G3 -- until they created benchmarks that used the AltiVec version of Photoshop, etc. In that era, unless you used Photoshop or did video editing, the G4 had no advantage over the G3. Both processors have evolved since then. Today they each have an on-chip level 2 cache that runs at full CPU speed. They support faster bus speeds. And there have been other minor tweaks as well. Todays G3 and G4 performance can not be directly equated with the differences back when the G4 first shipped. But the big change came with Mac OS X, the first Mac OS to use the velocity engine by default. At this point, I would hesitate to recommend buying a new G3 model if you ever plan to run OS X. AltiVec makes that much difference with Aqua -- or at least it did before Quartz Extreme. Looking at the computers themselves, if you would benefit from the additional screen real estate, the ability to have a second monitor, or Mac OS X, seriously consider the PowerBook G4. If 1024x768 is fine, you don't need screen spanning, and you don't intend to migrate to OS X (or do, but don't need the best performance), the iBook is a stunning value. Issues such as system bus pale in comparison to things like video chips, drive speed, screen resolution, etc. Those are the real world differences that impact your ongoing use of the computer far more than a 25% difference in bus speed. this has nothing to do with US-vs-Non-US... some people even here in the states have reported static on the case - just gander over at MacInTouch. Count me among them. Best solution: I now use a wireless mouse and keyboard at home. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Bill Gates was so impressed by the iMac that they were going to offer the blue-screen-of-death in a choice of colours. ;-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al
P.F.Grenier writes: Please, tell me you aren't serious. Insurance companies don't lose money. You are correct. They just keep raising rates so everyone helps bear the cost of insurance fraud. We lose; the insurance companies do not. Does that make you feel any better? -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: G4 spill damage
Thomas Ethen writes: In my computer classes one of the first rules is Do Not Have Any Liquid That Could Spill Near The Computers, which most people ignore when at home, but not in my lab! Any liquid spilled on a computer could destroy the entire computer, no matter what brand or type of computer it is. We've lost both an Acer laptop and a WallStreet over the last two years due to soft drink spills. I've also salvaged every single external keyboard that someone has spilled on by unplugging it, rinsing it under water, and letting it dry overnight. No such luck with laptops, though. Good advice. Ditto for getting crumbs from your cookies inside the keyboard. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Mediocrity thrives on standardization. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
The Alt and Option keys
Andrew Johnson writes: listmom, can we end this please? Sure, he typed on his Logitech Cordless Elite Duo keyboard -- the one that works with his TiBook and has a Windows key on it, of all things! Great keyboard, and it lets me set my PowerBook on a 6-7 high stand for much better ergonomics. History: In the beginning was the splat/open apple/command key. It was simple. And it was good. And it was inadequate, so with the advent of the Plus (if memory serves), the option key was added to the keyboard -- along with other nice keys like Escape. Thanks to programs like SoftPC and DOS cards, Apple began marking alt on the Option key, but always in smaller type. This was to accommodate DOS/Windows users. For Mac users, the three keys beside the spacebar are Control, Option, and Command. All Apple keyboards are clearly marked ctrl, option, and open apple/splat, but some third parties confuse matters by making the Windows markings as prominent as the Mac markings -- in the case of this Logitech, they differentiate the Windows keys by printing those names near the top of the key and the Mac names toward the bottom. So it's understandable that someone could misread them, and it would be best to correct such people in a civil manner. End of discussion. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net You can't brew a premium lager with a kool-aid mentality. -- The Red Green Show -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Top vs Bottom Posting
One of my pet peeves -- and something a lot of you have probably received a note about -- is people who quote the entire original message right down through the footer. The header. The ads. Everything. I go through each digest, scrolling past screen after screen of quoted material. It's too much. It's unnecessary. It's poor netiquette. And it violates list guidelines, which ask that you quote selectively in your replies. We had a lengthy and heated discussion of this and replying netiquette on the iMac list. After reading it all, I did some statistical analysis, put down my foot, and created a new rule for the lists. Well, guideline, if you want to be precise. -- Bottom Posting I learned how to reply when I joined an email list and saw how others did it. They would quote the line or paragraph they were replying to and follow it with their response. It looks like a dialog -- he said, she said. The beauty of this method is that even if you never read the original message (say you just subscribed), the quoted portions provide enough information that you know what the writer is responding to. It's not just brilliant, it's intuitive. The reply comes after what you are replying to. As Mary noted on the iMac List: A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- Top Posting Over the past decade, as more and more users have come to use email, a new style of reply emerged where the reply came first and was followed by the original message. Often the entire original message. No selective quoting. No removing unnecessary header lines or ads at the bottom. Bam, everything. Some people prefer top posting, some are very vocal in their support of it, and some refuse to scroll through a message to read a bottom posted reply. Really. -- Our Research Remember the issue of quoting the entire original message? Well it turns out that almost everyone who does that is a top poster. They use the default setting on their email client, they don't take the time to quote selectively, and they fill digests with massive quantities of unnecessarily quoted content. -- Our Guidelines Bottom posting is not only the oldest established method of replying on the Internet, it is also the most logical. It demonstrates that the sender is in a dialogue. It makes it easy for new subscribers to follow the conversation. It's just logical. Because of this, we recommend bottom posting as the normal way of replying on our lists. This should also eliminate most of the problems with excessive quoting. However, we are not passing a hard and fast rule against top posting. I use it myself when I send the following note to excessive quoters: This is a semi-automatic message from Dan, the listmom. Thanks for posting to the list. Please be careful not to quote *too much* of the original message (your recent posting is quoted below) when replying to the list -- especially the header and/or footer. (You're not being singled out; we send this to everyone who does that, and we realize that many email programs do this by default, so you may have to read the manual or help files to learn how to change this.) Thanks! Of course, that's not the kind of discussion we see within a list. On a list, top posting should be the exception, not the rule. Something like this is a bunch of bunk or the nanny declares this thread DEAD are appropriate as top posts; most replies are not. Remember that this is a guideline. We won't kick you off the list for not following it, but we believe bottom posting is the better way. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
November notes from Mom
This is the first of two emails I'm sending to all of the lists this evening. This one covers a bunch of little topics; the second will address top vs. bottom posting. -- Annoying Messages From the List Server We are aware of the annoying messages. We have made Maclaunch aware of the problem. It has been going on for months, and it looks unsolvable. We do not run the server; we have no way to fix it. We will be making an end run around the problem eventually. That's the next point. -- lemlists.com We have registered our own domain specifically for handling our 30-some email lists. We have the server up and running, and I will be leading a team in the creation of the greatest list management software ever devised for handling multiple lists. But it's going to take time. After I send these emails out, I will begin to outline the program and the steps needed to create it on the Mac Webmasters email list. If you have programming experience and are at all interested in this open source project, please join the list. It is most likely that the program will be written in PHP and make extensive use of MySQL. Other suggestions will be welcome on the list. -- Off Topic vs. On Topic Postings These are unmoderated lists. Except for the swap list, where discussion is forbidden, we try to keep the focus on the Mac and Mac related issues. Mac related includes things you do on the Mac, such as printing, browsing the Web, handling email, etc. We have some leeway for off topic postings, but not much. The busier the list, the less likely we are to welcome an off topic thread coming along and taking over digest after digest. This is particularly true of lists such as PCI PowerMacs, Vintage Macs, and the iMac List, which are already quite busy. -- The Nannies The list nannies help keep the lists on target, try to correct violations of netiquette, and have the full authority to temporarily or permanently ban subscribers in cases where they believe it is necessary. They also have their own list where they can discuss these decisions with each other. In a pinch, a nanny can act on a list that isn't their own, but this will mostly take place if the regular nanny is on vacation. If you have problems with the way a nanny is handling something, don't rant on the list -- send a reasonable note to the nanny. Rants will generally be grounds for unsubscribing someone permanently. -- The Lists We runs a host of lists. One for pre-G3 PowerBooks and another for G3 and G4 'Books. One for pre-PCI Power Macs, one for pre-G3 PCI Power Macs, and one for G3 and G4 models. We also have clone lists for Motorola, Power Computing, and Umax, as well as the Old Mac MP list for the DayStar clones and other dual- and quad-processor models. We have a list just for System 6, and another for those installing OS X on unsupported hardware. We have national lists for Canada, the UK, and down under (mostly Australia and New Zealand). We even have lists for the Apple II, Lisa, and Newton. Because of this, we ask that you try to ask questions on the appropriate list. We allow some leeway, but not too much. For instance, don't ask iMac questions on the Vintage Macs list. Plus or minus a generation is our guideline if you must ask questions about off topic hardware. -- The List Mom I am running myself ragged. I will be taking most of the last week of the month off. I need to get away from the responsibilities of 30-some mailing lists, 3-5 new articles on Low End Mac, and all the other stuff for a few days. Clear my head. Let the nannies handle the lists. Maybe even find some time to do some programming, photography, reading, etc. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: [swap] not getting messages
Aaron writes: For over 24 hours now I haven't gotten any messages from the swap list. The last one that I received was at 2:26 pm (pacific) on Sunday, a post by Chuck. I was able to post 3 or 4 listings this morning, and have received buyers from those postings. I have also talked with 2 others that have confirmed that there have been posts, and that they have seen my posts. My only guess is that my .Mac account has decided that lemlists is spam. But I just sent a test message from my lemlists account to my .Mac account, and it went through fine. Any ideas what might be wrong? Well this is interesting. I just checked the subscriber list for the swap list -- mac.com email addresses only. Almost every single subscription in feed mode reports 17 bounces. Nearly every subscription in digest mode says 6 bounces. Coincidence? I think not. I am also posting this to a few of our other lists so that swap list subscribers can know what Apple is up to and request that they stop blocking this list that you've subscribed to. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Unix for stability. Macs for productivity. Windows for solitaire. In other words, Mac OS X for pretty much everything. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Suggestions for upgrading Pismo HD?
Dan K writes: OWC has 2.5 FW cases with Oxford 911 chipset for $50: http://eshop.macsales.com/Item_MailList.cfm?ID=4636Item=OWCME910FW911 I've got 4 of these little suckers and I just love 'em. I've only got one. My TiBook's original 10 GB Toshiba drives lives inside it. Very nice case. Bus powered. Recommended. Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Bill Gates was so impressed by the iMac that they were going to offer the blue-screen-of-death in a choice of colours. ;-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
From the listmom
The bad news: lemlists.com was down for nearly a week due to sarcasm on our dear friends at Network Solutions. sarcasm off The server changed to a new IP address last Saturday, but it took NSI nearly a week to update their records. This is one reason I refuse to use NSI for domain registration. I've been very happy with aitdomains.com, and I know there are a lot of other good alternatives to NSI. The good news: lemlists.com has been resolving since Friday, which is more than I can say for all my domains at present. (See snide comments about NSI above.) This means I can finally read email from the lists. The bad news: I have received digests from Oct. 18 as well as digests dated yesterday, but none in between. I have a request in to the nannies to provide the missing digests if they have them. If they don't, I'll post specific requests to specific lists on Monday. And then I'll have a whole lot of email to wade through. The good news: We are extending the service period for all current LEMlist account holders by one month as our way of apologizing for this extended outage. -- next topic -- To clarify: the focus of these lists is not specifically hardware or an operating system. The focus of the lists is what we do with our Macs; the name of the list indicates what family of Macs or which OS we are dealing with. Explicitly off topic items include politics, religion, and pro-Windows postings. Discussion of things like posting etiquette, blogging, and even language are acceptable as long as they are related to our use of Macs (or Lisas, Newtons, Apple IIs on those lists) or our participation in the list. If they go beyond that scope, the nannies will generally step in, label them officially off topic, and ask for an end to discussion. -- next topic -- In the coming week we hope to announce the Low End Mac Network, which will be hosted at lowendmac.net. (Anyone with links to lowendmac.net should change them to lowendmac.com -- they are already broken.) LEMnet will serve two functions. First, it will be an a la carte alternative to Apple's .mac services. We will offer email accounts, Web space, file storage space, an equivalent to iDisk, and maybe (we're looking into it) WebDAV support for iCal. More details when we have them hammered out. The second function will be to archive Mac related websites that would otherwise vanish into the ether. We will provide free active archiving for defunct websites to keep valuable information from disappearing. Again, we're working on the details. We'll post more information at lowendmac.net -- and to the lists -- as it's available. -- next topic -- Low End Mac as a business has not been what I expected. I have been working three days (17 hours) a week at a local camera shop to supplement income from Low End Mac, which is essentially my full time (40-50 hours per week) job. Sometime in November, I will begin working with a new publisher in the education field. I'll be working 15-20 hours per week, generally M-Th noon until 5:00 pm, which will significantly curtail the amount of time I can spend on LEM during the week. I will be more dependent than ever on the nannies to keep the lists running smoothly. On the plus side, this job will pay a lot better than retailing cameras. On the minus, it will take me away from LEM more hours during the week. With site income where it is, this is a necessary tradeoff. Another plus: I won't have to work Saturdays. I can have my weekends back. :-) -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Warning messages
Just a reminder to anyone receiving automated warning messages from the list server. This situation is beyond our control. Maclaunch runs the server, and we have reported the problem to them. The messages are generated automatically. There is nothing we can do about them short of unsubscribing addresses from the list. We cannot fix it. We are working on our own solution, but it's a slow process. If anyone has strong PHP and MySQL skills -- especially involving sending and receiving email -- we are desperately looking for help. Our new software will be a lot better when it gets done, and we will release it as open source once it's up and running. But until we can manage things like reading incoming email and sending it out again, managing subscription requests, etc., we're stuck with the current setup. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
More from the list mom
In response to some recent issues, I've added the following paragraphs to the list FAQs: What about anti-spam services? We already take the steps necessary to keep spam off our lists. Whatever filtering you do with your email software and your email service is up to you. That said, we take a dim view of anti-spam services such as Spam Arrest that require the sender of a message to respond to a message from the anti-spam service before allowing the recipient to receive the posting. Such a service inconveniences anyone who posts to the list and is unnecessary. These are all closed lists, so there is no spam. Only those who have requested a subscription and confirmed their subscription are allowed to post. If that is not good enough for you, please don't inconvenience our members by asking them to jump through hoops to keep your mailbox spam free. Any subscriber using this kind of anti-spam service will receive one warning. If the situation is not resolved quickly, the subscriber will be banned. The burden should be on the spammers, not innocent list members. And the following to our netiquette page: Never send test messages to the list. Test when you have something to say to the list by saying it, not by sending a test message. And a reminder: Except for the swap list, all lists are set up so that hitting reply will generate a reply to the list. Because the swap list is not a discussion list, it is set up so that replies go to the original sender, not to the list. (Exception: digest mode.) Hope this helps thing run more smoothly. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
New t-shirts and stuff from Low End Mac
I've just spent over 5 hours creating new artwork, a new online store, and a whole bunch of new T-shirts and other items. NEW A whole series of I Switched T-shirts with the phrase Mac User Since 1984 (and every year through 2002) plus the infamous Y2K. Another replaces that with I Don't Do Windows. These T-shirts recognize that most Mac users were switchers at one time. I think my switch officially took place in 1990, maybe 1991 The final shirt in this series says, Switch? I already use a Mac! so even those who never switched can buy a T-shirt. :-) We also have a Switchers for Kids section with Too Young To Switch shirts and bibs and sweatshirts. OLDER We've added a whole bunch of new items (even a license plate holder) with the old I Love My Low End Mac sentiment, and the Because every Mac becomes low end sooner or later products are also available. And we can't forget the It's not obsolete 'til I say it is line. Prices range from reasonable to somewhat steep, quality is reported as excellent by those who have bought through Cafe Press in the past, and about 10% of the sale price comes back to Low End Mac. Pop on over to http://www.cafepress.com/lemstore to see the vast selection of t-shirts, sweatshirts, mugs, totes, etc. -- Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Partition Suggestions for Wallstreet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will be installing a 40GB hard drive this coming week and installing OS X 10.5, for now, and OS 9.2.1. I understand that OS X has to be in the first 8GB, but does OS 9.2 need to be in the first 8GB. I plan to partition as follows: OS X the first 5GB, 9.2 in the second 5GB and the balance of 30Gb for Applications and Files. I downloaded from apple http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=10623, but it does not address OS 9.2 question. The classic Mac OS doesn't care how big a partition it's installed on, as long as it's big enough. My recommendation: one 8 GB partition for OS 9 and X, the remaining space for everything else. Hope you're getting one of the fast 5400 rpm drives with a big cache. Just put a 20 megger in my TiBook with 8 MB cache -- it really rocks compared with the original 10 GB drive. The faster drive almost makes some things (such as scrolling through Claris Emailer digests) too fast, a complaint I've never had with any Mac -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -- Rich Cook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: .Mac
Bruce Johnson writes: Dan Knight wrote: It amazes me that Apple thinks the same people who bitch about no discount for upgrading from OS X 10.1.x to 10.2 wouldn't also bitch about paying $100 -- or even $50 -- to keep an email account in service when it had been free. Actually, Apple doesn't think that. The number of people bitching and whining about paying for the OSX 10.2 upgrade were all pretty much the same cheap b**d's who were kvetching about iTools and .Mac. My point exactly. Over 2 million iTools users and about 2.5 million Mac OS X users were affected by these twin bone-headed decisions. Apple has sold a bucketload of 10.2 boxes (100K their opening weekend at $129 per, that's revenues of 12.9 million right there, easily surpassing the 5M they've gotten from .Mac so far.) So only about 4-5% of X users jumped on Jaguar -- about the same percentage willing to pay to retain their mac.com email address. Think about it. Apple got 4-5% of iTools users to sign up for .Mac at $50/year, putting $5 million in Apple's coffers and generating untold ill will. I'm guessing the value of the ill will outweighs the value of the income. Only among the people kvetching about it, and if they're too cheap to pay $50 /year for the service, if it means that much to them, they're certainly too cheap to be buying new Macs. I bought a new Mac in January 2001 -- the third new Mac and fourth new Mac OS computer in over a decade as a Mac user. I'm not too cheap to buy a new computer when there's a reason to do so, nor am I too cheap to buy an OS upgrade or pay for .mac if the benefits outweigh the costs. It seems that 90% of iTools users and OS X users have not yet decided that the cost of .mac and/or Jaguar provides sufficient benefits. By offering more affordable options (email only accounts, Jaguar upgrade packages), Apple might have doubled or tripled the number of people willing to upgrade. As an Apple stockholder and mac.com email user, I wish Apple had given the two million plus iTools users a $10/year email only option. At that price I and maybe 500,000 others would stick with it, adding $5 million more to Apple's bottom line and creating good will -- Apple, a company that listens. That would have probably been a better option than cutting them off completely, but I wonder if it would have been cost-effective. Considering how many companies (Microsoft, for instance) offer free email, I'm sure Apple could find a way to do it for more than nothing but much less than $49. I love my Macs and both types of Mac OS, but I'm not particularly pleased with the way Apple runs their business. They show a low regard for their customers when they offer a new version of the OS with no upgrade option and turn a free service many had used primarily for email into a high cost service. ROFL!!! Go buy a peecee and see how most computer users are treated. What a bunch of crap. That's like my complaining how long it takes to get a Leica repaired (because they so often have to go back to Germany) and you telling me to be glad it's not a cheapo Kodak Advantix camera. What in the world does the way Microsoft, Dell, or Gateway treat their customers have to do with the way Apple should treat theirs? I should be happy because Apple tries to screw me less? Moreover, if you don't get on the wagon now, you're gonna be off any upgrade pricing at all in the future, with MS. On the other hand, the new Apple upgrade policy tells me that I'm better off sticking with 10.1.5 as long as I can and then paying for a full-cost upgrade to 10.3 or 10.4 somewhere down the road, since Apple apparently isn't ever going to offer discounted upgrades to Mac users. Maybe these aren't concerns for iCEOs with $10 million jets and his board of directors, but for those of us in the trenches who scrape to buy RAM upgrades, bigger hard drives, new Macs every 2-5 years, and software updates, $49 for .mac and $129 for Jaguar is real money. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows. Sun -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g
The Mac OS
Someone writes: Os X is not the Mac OS. It is NEXT re-branded and updated with some Mac like features. I am so sick to death of this idea popping up time and again on these lists. Mac OS X is a Mac OS. Period. It's made by Apple. It only runs on Mac hardware. Apple calls is *Mac* OS X. No, it's not your father's Mac OS. Yes, it's rooted in NeXTstep and BSD Unix. Still, it's an operating system from Apple for Macintosh computers. Hence, they have every right to call it what it is: a Mac OS. Next person to state that OS X is not a Mac OS because it's not the classic Mac OS will be permanently banned from this and any other list. Nuff said? Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Note from Mom
As noted in the FAQ, you can only post from, change mode using, and unsubscribe with the exact email address you used to subscribe. We also send out an automated email stating this when you subscribe. If you are having subscription problems -- and as often as not the current mail server seems to botch things -- do the following: 1. Address your email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to any other address. Do not post your request to the list. 2. Be sure to mention the name of the list(s) you're on. With the current list management program, I have no way of telling without checking all 30-some lists -- and I don't have the time to do that. 3. Let me know exactly what address you are subscribed with. That's the address the postings or digest are being sent to. 4. Tell me exactly what needs to be done: switch me to digest mode, delete my old address and change my subscription to a new one, take me off your #%$#@% list, etc. 5. If I have to email you with questions, be sure to send all of the above information with your reply. I get hundreds of emails daily and dozens just to the listmom address. I will not remember the details -- make it easy so I don't have to ask for the details and wait for yet another email exchange. Things are moving very slowly on creating our own email program. I'm haven't been working at Low End Mac full-time in a year, and I've increased my hours at the camera shop to help offset the continuing drop in income from lowendmac.com. I've also got a second half-time job starting sometime in October, so we need to handle things efficiently. Also a reminder that we are offering lemlists.com email addresses to list subscribers for just $5 per year. Details at http://lemlists.com/email/index.php Dan the listmom -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Every day is payday in a labor of love. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Notes from the List Mom
Where's the List Mom been for the last week? Here, but due to our host moving to a new mail server, I've been unable to access my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address with Claris Emailer. Since I have several scripts and macros for Emailer that I use with the lists and we've been unable to find a solution to the problem of accessing this mailbox from Emailer, I've switched addresses. Any future correspondence regarding subscriptions, posting problems, etc., should be sent to == [EMAIL PROTECTED] == instead of the old address. At least I can check this mailbox with Emailer. I've spent the last hour or so forwarding lists digests and listmom email to the lemlists account and hope to get through it all in the next few days. (I have to work at the camera store today, so I won't be able to get much done this morning.) I have not had the time to update the list footers; hope to find the time this weekend. I will update the published FAQ for all the lists with the morning site update. Email sent to the old listmom address should automatically forward to the new one. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS X on x86...
Walter Basil writes: As Apple Computer Inc. draws up its game plan for the CPUs that will power its future generations of Mac hardware, the company is holding an ace in the hole: a feature-complete version of Mac OS X running atop the x86 architecture. Apple has been porting the Mac OS to Intel since the Star Trek version of System 7.something. NeXTstep, the OS most directly related to Mac OS X, started on 68030 and '040 hardware, but it was later ported to Intel as well. But as Steve Jobs mentioned, Apple likes to keep its options open. You can bet that Apple is also porting OS X to other platforms -- maybe the Alpha chip, IBM's Power series, Itanium, and who knows what else. This means that if Motorola ever collapses under its own incompetence, Apple can pick up without missing a beat. It doesn't mean Apple will ever sell x86 computers, but it does mean that Apple could sell OS X as an alternate OS for that hardware. Imagine how many might abandon Windows and Linux for such an OS But don't expect Apple to ever move to Wintel hardware. Even if they did decide to use the Athlon or Pentium, I'd expect them to design their own motherboard with their own ROMs to keep the Mac experience integrated, something Wintel kludge hardware simply can't offer. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The more acceptance that technology gets, the harder it is to change. If enough people are stuck at the same level, they think it's the truth. -- Bjarne Stroustrup -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook vs. PowerBook
João Loureiro writes: Hi, everyone! What book is the best buy Ti-Book G4/667? or iBook G3/700? The answer is Yes. Which is best depends on your needs. The TiBook is slim and has a positivley huge screen. The iBook is heavier, costs less, and displays less pixels on a smaller screen. The G4 is definitely superior for OS X, but not much better than a G3 for running the old Mac operating systems. And the iBook's plastic case apparently gives it a lot more range with AirPort. Visit your dealer. Play with 'em. See which meets *your* needs. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently. -- Nietzsche -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Addressing digest problems
Maclaunch is aware of the problems we've been having with digests -- but hasn't heard back from Communigate yet. Until then, I've adjusted digest size downward on the less busy lists, from 20 messages max. per digest to 10 or even 5. Hope this gets things moving again. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Update on lemlists.com
Unless Apple changes their mind, mac.com email addresses are *not* going to be free after Sept. 30. I don't use enough iTools services to justify the $99/year Apple wants. All I use mac.com for is email. Ryan Coleman, of Coleman Web/Internet Services, and I are working on the details for setting up personal email accounts on lemlists.com. Because many of these lists are subsidized by ads, we will be keeping the cost of email addresses to $5 per year -- but we will only be offering lemlists.com addresses to people on one or more of our email lists. Signing up for a lemlists.com email account helps subsidize our cost of managing the server and overseeing the lists, so it very much helps out Low End Mac. The server is up and running, although there are no more details on the website http://lemlists.com/ than in this email. We'll probably set a maximum mailbox size of 5 MB, which is typical, and Ryan does a lot of work to prevent spammers from using the server, something I really appreciate as a one-time IS manager and email administrator (not to mention as someone who gets too much spam daily). If you are interested in singing up and haven't already contacted Ryan, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not reply to me or to the list. We hope to have things up and running in a few days. Dan Knight, listmom, publisher of Low End Mac -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
lemlists.com
Our monumentally huge project for the summer will be setting up a new domain (I just registered lemlists.com) for our email lists and creating our own software to manage subscriptions, process messages, etc. It's going to be a huge undertaking, and it's going to make things much better for all of us. One idea I've had for funding this is selling email addresses @lemlists.com for $5/year. The bulk of this would go toward running the server and paying for bandwidth, with a small percentage coming back to Low End Mac for administering the lists. We're working with Ryan Coleman of http://coleman-web.net/ to set this up. The goal is to set up a pretty spam resistant server that can be used as a POP3 mail server -- and for Web-based email as well. Best of all, if you're subscribed to any of our lists from a lemlists.com address, you'd never have to worry about AOL, mac.com, etc. going down or bouncing messages from the list, since they'll be on the same machine that handles the lists. We'd like to hear from any of you who might be interested in supporting the LEM lists and having a lemlists.com mailbox for $5.00 per year. This will help us determine the feasibility of the project, how much drive space we'll need, and whether Coleman Web will need to upgrade their Internet connection to allow for more bandwidth. If you're interested, DO NOT reply to the list and DO NOT reply to me. Send an email to Ryan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject lemlists.com. Whether we go through with mailboxes or not, we will be working with Coleman Web to set up the Low End Mac List Server in coming days. I'm guessing this project may take several months of programming and debugging to get things just right. I'll keep you posted. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Bill Gates was so impressed by the iMac that they were going to offer the blue-screen-of-death in a choice of colours. ;-) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: ListNanny............. gone
Jeremy Derr writes: I warned all earlier this week and now I end my current tenure on this list. I will be going into digest mode for the duration of my moving and upcoming travel. I shall be back I hope Jeremy will be able to share why he's going away when he returns in September. Kyle Hansen will be stepping in as one of the list nannies now that Jeremy is gone. Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OS X mail quota
Donald Keenan writes: I tried to cut and paste the message and send it in a message to this list, but the message was not deliverable and the message was returned by the Mail Daemon. It contained a mime attachment and Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.maclaunch.com Is this perchance virus related? The message being rejected by the list server would not be virus related. Because we reject any email with an attachment, the list is virus-proof. And that's why your attempted posting was rejected -- I'm guessing Apple's Mail application appended the message as an attachment, not as text within the email you sent. -- Dan Knight, president/\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc. \ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email / \ Respect Open Standards! http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9910/27.deb.shtml -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: About: Confirmation Request ...
P. Turtle-Bear Guillermo writes: This is an automated message from the G-Books mailing list manager. Somebody (probably you) has requested the unsubscribe operation for the email address Just got the automated unsubscribe message like others have been getting - what's going on list mom? As so often happens, the Maclaunch mail server is acting up. Hope to put together a better solution in July. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net Microsoft is to software as McDonald's is to beef. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Active links
John McKee writes: Just an aside (you probably already know this), If you put the full web address in, it becomes an active clickable link, as... http://www.dpreview.com That's completely dependent on *your* email client. My primary email client (Claris Emailer) doesn't support active links. PowerMail, which I'll be adopting when I go X, even turns www.dpreview.com into an active link. The best and most widely supported format for posting URLs in email and elsewhere is to put the entire thing between less than and greater than signs, like this: http://lowendmac.com More email clients will turn this format into an active link than any other format. Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net You shouldn't need a Passport to use the World Wide Web. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Mom says Please vote
Twice a year we run a pair of surveys -- Best of the Mac Web and Rest of the Mac Web. The second survey covers 50 sites not included in the Best poll, and the best of these will move up to the Best survey in October. Rest of the Mac Web has a lot of good low-end sites like Mac512K, System 6 Heaven, the pickle's Low-end Mac FAQ, etc. I urge all of you to take a few minutes and share your opinion of the site's your familiar with -- and maybe discover some new ones. http://lowendmac.com/botmw/020326.html Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://lowendpc.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://reformed.net Please have your pet peeves spayed or neutered. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Mom says, Avoid all caps
Good afternoon from New York City, where the Macworld Expo is rapidly running down. Just read something on The Register that you should all be aware of. 1. Hotmail is marking email with ALL CAPS subjects as spam and trashing it. Great idea -- but watch your caps lock key when posting, since some list users are on Hotmail. 2. Hotmail now redirects URLs through Microsoft servers, which is totally unnecessary and probably done just to inflate their hit count. :-( http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20525.html We've had light Expo coverage on http://lowendmac.com/expo/ this week, including our Best of Show award to a couple new upgrades from Sonnet. I'm looking forward to getting home Sunday afternoon. Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. publisher, Low End Machttp://lowendmac.com/ publisher, Digital-Views.com http://digital-views.com/ publisher, Digigraphicahttp://digigraphica.com/ In a world without walls or fences, who needs windows or gates? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Enter to win a FREE Titanium G4 PowerBook! -- | CDRWs on Sale! | Save on Mac software -- Shop Software Outlet.com http://lowendmac.com/ad/software.outlet.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
