[gentoo-ppc-user] F80 Install Questions...
I recently came into the possession of a 7025-F80 and would like to install Gentoo. I made the LiveCD and booted it from OF... but I get two penguin frame buffer images and all the text is garbled trash. Any suggestions? Thanks J_ Jeffrey M. Miller CISSP CISM RHCE CCNA LPIC-2 Sr. Security Consultant Acumen InfoSec LLC __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help with firewall please
On Thursday 10 February 2005 11:40 pm, Nick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im going to try and setup a firewall on my home server this weekend, but im unsure as to all the ports i have to open in order for my mail server to stay operational, this is a list of what i think i need to make accessible from outside, please let me know if i need to open anything else and suggestions please. im using 1 nic at the moment with a 2nd installed but not active yet, going to hook the machine straight up to my cable modem and bypass the router for now and run nic2 to the router/switch when i go to set this up. here is a list of what i think i need open, and question next to the ones im not sure of. Are you sure you want all these avilable to the internet? You may want to have some of these only listen to on the inside nic, if they are only supposed to provide services from inside your network. courier-imap - 143 courier-imap-ssl - 995? courier-pop3 - 110 courier-pop3-ssl - ? postfix - 25 apache - 80 proftpd - 21 webmin - 1 distcc - 3632 ssh - 22 ntp - ? what port does it update itself? clamav - same as above NFS - ? might try sharing drives across internet, what port? squid - 8080 tor - ? does it need a port? privoxy - ? openldap - ? when i get this running does it use a port? distcc should *never* be allowed to listen to the open net. [Heck, I was worried about it because it would answer my roommate's win-box.] distcc does NOT check to make the the command-line it is executing is a compile, so you are basically given local access to the box as the distcc user for anyone that the daemon will listen to. I'm not *exactly* sure what webmin is for. I do expose a the web interface to my netgear router to the internet (via ssh only), but that's so I can turn on/off port forwarding to inside boxes as needed. Yes, that's dangerous and you should probably think twice about doing it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help with firewall please
Nick Smith wrote: im going to try and setup a firewall on my home server this weekend, but im unsure as to all the ports i have to open in order for my mail server to stay operational, this is a list of what i think i need to make accessible from outside, please let me know if i need to open anything else and suggestions please. im using 1 nic at the moment with a 2nd installed but not active yet, going to hook the machine straight up to my cable modem and bypass the router for now and run nic2 to the router/switch when i go to set this up. here is a list of what i think i need open, and question next to the ones im not sure of. courier-imap - 143 courier-imap-ssl - 995? courier-pop3 - 110 courier-pop3-ssl - ? The above SSL ports are probably alright, but don't open the non-ssl ports, 110 and 143. If you aren't going to use the SSL ports from the outside, then disable those too [I always tunnel via SSH rather than open them up]. postfix - 25 apache - 80 Good. proftpd - 21 Again, if you actually plan to use this from the outside, go ahead and open it, otherwise don't. Remember that passwords are most often passed in the clear with FTP. webmin - 1 DO NOT expose the webmin port. Period. distcc - 3632 Why? ssh - 22 Excellent idea. ntp - ? what port does it update itself? No good, do not expose this to the internet, period. clamav - same as above NFS - ? might try sharing drives across internet, what port? squid - 8080 tor - ? does it need a port? privoxy - ? openldap - ? when i get this running does it use a port? Do not expose any of these to the internet period. Why would you want any of these available outside your network? since im not to sure about iptables right now and dont fully understand it, ive been playing with webmin's shorewall 'plugin' and am going to try setting it up with that. it seems newbie friendly. It is still not newbie friendly. More importantly, if you don't know what you are setting up, it doesn't really matter which firewall you use. Perhaps you should consider reading up on firewalls, which essentially try to hide your services from the rest of the world, rather than make them secure outright. also, how do i know if a packet/port is TCP, UDP or IMCP? when i go to set this up i need to know that, is there a way to tell? im kinda new at this. first firewall...woo-hoo, never figured i needed one until now :-/ thanks for any and all help. Nick Essentially, IP traffic is ICMP, TCP or UDP. Most that you care about is TCP. ICMP is used for pings and traceroutes mostly [other stuff you aren't likely aware of like resets]. TCP is the most common traffic, used in about everything popular [http, ftp, telnet, ssh, nntp, etc]. UDP is used in broadcast type information such as some times of broadcast video or audio. To get an idea of the services and their types, take a look around in /etc/services. Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When 2005.0 release
-- Zhang Yong -- wrote: According to the weekly letter, 2005.0 should release in January, but now it is not out yet. Who know when, i am waiting it for my office computer. The 2005.0 release has been temporarily delayed due to a shortage of manpower. It will be released when it is finished. Is there any reason you can't install using a 2004.3 LiveCD and stages? -- Andrew Gaffneyhttp://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Project -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] intermitent hang at shutdown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Try adding [*] Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off, i've had instances where this being disabled would not turn off the machine... rodrigo ahumada wrote: El vie, 11-02-2005 a las 14:17 -0800, Steven Susbauer escribió: Make sure you enable Use APM to turn off power (or something close to it) in the APM settings, and also make sure Enable APM at boot is selected. I've had it just sit there after a reboot if they aren't on. thanks, really fast!! well, now this what i got in APM: * APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS support [ ] Ignore USER SUSPEND [*] Enable PM at boot time [ ] Make CPU Idle calls when idle [ ] Enable console blanking using APM [ ] RTC stores time in GMT [ ] Allow interrupts during APM BIOS calls [ ] Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off recompiled, and at the first try to shutdown with sudo i got the freeze. these are the rules on visudo: %shutdown ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/poweroff %shutdown ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/reboot rootALL=(ALL) ALL i don't know if it's normal but when i run sudo /sbin/poweroff, the X session is not the first in been terminated, it doesn't turn off like other distros... PS: maybe this have something to do with, i installed gnome, and choosed logout_prompt=true, but when i choose reboot/shutdown in the gnome-panel menu, always it come back to gdm. Kde with Kdm work ok (and also has no problem with the shutdown). thanks,anyway -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list - -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com Comment: Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ iQA/AwUBQg2et9Ru81vBONZbEQKlsQCgwTfAAqQ67P7+vNAY1TdyikNnwWcAoI/2 CyITUg5bP0HVFHwJfu5XXD9W =q/eO -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg 6.8.2rc4, Nvdia drivers, Glx
On Saturday 12 February 2005 03:22, Makurin Roman wrote: Hi, folks. I`ve got a trouble with OpenGL and Xorg+Nvdia drivers. Here`s my error: (II) Loading extension NV-GLX (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) Option dpms (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX (==) RandR enabled But I realy need opengl, I like to play games - CS, Q3 :-) try adding this: ModulePath /usr/lib/modules to your Files section -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? I am connected to the net through a wireless link that uses pppoe. I would like to monitor whats going out and coming in and what program and or ports are being used. IE ftp, bittorent, a browser etc any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? I am connected to the net through a wireless link that uses pppoe. I would like to monitor whats going out and coming in and what program and or ports are being used. IE ftp, bittorent, a browser etc any ideas? Check out gkrellm and the plugins for it available in portage. Other than that we'd need more information about which desktop you use to find something more fitting. :) -- Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
gkrellmd would be unsuitable as my server is a console server, no x whatsoever Tom Wesley wrote: PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? I am connected to the net through a wireless link that uses pppoe. I would like to monitor whats going out and coming in and what program and or ports are being used. IE ftp, bittorent, a browser etc any ideas? Check out gkrellm and the plugins for it available in portage. Other than that we'd need more information about which desktop you use to find something more fitting. :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird message
every time I try emerge something I get this message server distfiles # emerge mysql Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 6) dev-db/mysql-4.0.23-r2 to / mv: cannot stat `/var/tmp/portage/mysql-4.0.23-r2/temp/environment': No such file or directory It doesnt halt the emerge though. just... weird :/ any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
the first page that showed up on my google search might help: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html#MONITORINGTOOLS On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? I am connected to the net through a wireless link that uses pppoe. I would like to monitor whats going out and coming in and what program and or ports are being used. IE ftp, bittorent, a browser etc any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
I always get my own posts back. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
Like here, I didn't do anything this quote came up properly: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 07:45:00 -0600, Taylor Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always get my own posts back. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When 2005.0 release
On 03:05 Sat 12 Feb , Andrew Gaffney wrote: -- Zhang Yong -- wrote: According to the weekly letter, 2005.0 should release in January, but now it is not out yet. Who know when, i am waiting it for my office computer. The 2005.0 release has been temporarily delayed due to a shortage of manpower. It will be released when it is finished. Is there any reason you can't install using a 2004.3 LiveCD and stages? I saw something in the dev list about February 21st. No promises Bill Roberts -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
Makurin Roman wrote: 11 2005 09:30 Nick Smith (a): On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 07:43 +0300, Makurin Roman wrote: 12 2005 07:30 Collins Richey (a): On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 07:20:54 +0300, Makurin Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All. I`am new with gmail, and I little confused with it. When I send mail to this list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I don`t recive my mail-message back. Is it gmail specific feature :-) or my fault ? Did you rejoin the list (i.e. cancel your subscription and rejoin or change your registered address to use your gmaiil address)? You're probably still registered at your previous address. No, I simply create gmail account, then I subscribe to gentoo`s lists P.S.: sorry for my english :-/ was there an option when you signed up to not receive your own posts? it is for some lists, cant remember about this one. No, I send an empty mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I'm confused. OK, you are subscribed to the list via your gmail account. That is obviously working, because your messages are being received, your messages are listed as coming from your gmail account, and you are replying to the thread you started from your gmail account, (unless you're doing some kind of freaky cut and paste thing from a mail client to compose your replies). So what does I don`t recive my mail-message back mean? Do you mean that 1) gmail does not save a copy of the mail you sent to the list in gmail's Sent Mail folder? or 2) You get the posts from the list, but your mail is not among them (you receive replies to what you posted, but you do not see the original post you made, which should be at the head of the thread)? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:56:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what does I don`t recive my mail-message back mean? Do you mean that 1) gmail does not save a copy of the mail you sent to the list in gmail's Sent Mail folder? or 2) You get the posts from the list, but your mail is not among them (you receive replies to what you posted, but you do not see the original post you made, which should be at the head of the thread)? Hi Holly, I use Gmail and I've experienced what Makurin sees. What Gmail does is puts everything ito a single thread. That's not unique. What is a bit different is that the post I make to the list is the copy it seems to keep in the thread. You do not end up with the copy you sent and the copy you received back. You see only one. Makurin is receiving his posts but GMail is hiding them from him. He can prove this by sending a message to this list but then going to the sent folder and deleting the sent copy to trash and emptying the trash. I find when I do this that when I receive my copy back from the list a few minutes later I do see it. It's just a strange aspect of GMail. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
On Saturday 12 February 2005 04:20, Makurin Roman wrote: Hi All. I`am new with gmail, and I little confused with it. When I send mail to this list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I don`t recive my mail-message back. Is it gmail specific feature :-) or my fault ? Try sending to gentoo-user@gentoo.org instead. HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
On Saturday 12 February 2005 11:59, PK wrote: gkrellmd would be unsuitable as my server is a console server, no x whatsoever Then use tcpdump or tethereal. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
PK wrote: gkrellmd would be unsuitable as my server is a console server, no x whatsoever Nope. gkrellmd is a daemon. It doesn't need a graphic frontend. You connect to the server from a desktop machine where gkrellm2 is ran. -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:56:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what does I don`t recive my mail-message back mean? Do you mean that 1) gmail does not save a copy of the mail you sent to the list in gmail's Sent Mail folder? or 2) You get the posts from the list, but your mail is not among them (you receive replies to what you posted, but you do not see the original post you made, which should be at the head of the thread)? Hi Holly, I use Gmail and I've experienced what Makurin sees. What Gmail does is puts everything ito a single thread. That's not unique. What is a bit different is that the post I make to the list is the copy it seems to keep in the thread. You do not end up with the copy you sent and the copy you received back. You see only one. Makurin is receiving his posts but GMail is hiding them from him. He can prove this by sending a message to this list but then going to the sent folder and deleting the sent copy to trash and emptying the trash. I find when I do this that when I receive my copy back from the list a few minutes later I do see it. It's just a strange aspect of GMail. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Thanks for the explanation, Mark... I do have a GMail account, but I don't use it for this (or any) list atm, and what I do use it for is very limited, so I don't know all that much about how to set it up or how it handles lots of mail. What, does it automatically archive the message (because it is exactly the same as a message GMail knows you have) or does it do something else entirely? Does the mail become visible if you go to All Mail rather than Starred mail (like I said, I don't use GMail that extensively, so I'm just asking. I went by my account because of this thread and looked at Settings, and archived some mail-- I've had this account for a while now, and this is the first time I've done these things, so that says just how much I've explored the GMail functionality)? I looked, but I didn't easily find a way to stop it doing what you explain. Is there one? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What is it for? Was [Re: [gentoo-user] Bug with SVGALib?]
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 10:30, Mike Flippin wrote: I am using gentoo-dev-sources 2.6.10-r6 and I just merged svgalib-1.9.19-r1. Before I tried that, SVGALib 1.9.19-r3 wouldn't build. I am not running a special kernel ebuild or anything like that for NVidia and my xorg.conf was generated by a SuSE livecd if that helps. Can I just interject and ask why it's needed for? I only looked at it recently because freevo was complaining that it wasn't loaded (svgalib_helper) Then I looked at it and it was installed like a couple of months back when I built my laptop from ground up. It's pretty kernel dependent, so I'm not sure what's it use for -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 22:08:06 up 24 min, 2 users, load average: 0.85, 0.63, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:24:41 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the explanation, Mark... I do have a GMail account, but I don't use it for this (or any) list atm, and what I do use it for is very limited, so I don't know all that much about how to set it up or how it handles lots of mail. What, does it automatically archive the message (because it is exactly the same as a message GMail knows you have) or does it do something else entirely? It's not clear to me. AFAICT it is identical except for the header. GMail must look at the text as well as see that it's from me and then it just trashes it. It seems a bit strange but it works. I don't know what it would do if, for instance, the text in the email was somehow changed between when I sent it and when I received it, but that's not happened. Does the mail become visible if you go to All Mail rather than Starred mail (like I said, I don't use GMail that extensively, so I'm just asking. I went by my account because of this thread and looked at Settings, and archived some mail-- I've had this account for a while now, and this is the first time I've done these things, so that says just how much I've explored the GMail functionality)? I've not seen it become visible unless I erase the sent copy. In that case the reply always becomes visible. (AFAICT) I looked, but I didn't easily find a way to stop it doing what you explain. Is there one? Nope. It's just the way GMail works. It's a bit strange at first but after awhile I became used to it. The one problem with the way this works is that if your message never gets to the list and you never get a response you don't really know why. You have the outgoing copy. You think it was delivered. It wasn't. You cannot tell. One other strange aspect about Gmail is that most of the time, if I start a conversation, I do not see my email in my Inbox until I get a response from someone. The first message stays in the sent folder, and I can read it, but it doesn't show up in the Inbox until someone responds. I really don't like that the spelling checker doesn't learn my vocabulary. My name, and yours, is always in red. I like GMail but it comes with its own way of working. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Non network installation
Hi, I am a newbie, have been googling and searching all morning and afternoon, but found no proper resources. I want to install gentoo on a laptop without network or internet connection. I use the live CD with snapshots and all installed. I chrooted and now want to run: emerge gentoo-sources This gives errors: it cannot find the packages because it looks online emerge --usepkgonly gentoo-sources gives me an error: !!! there are no packages available to satisfy gentoo-sources !!! either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild. emerge --usepkgonly /usr/portage/distfiles/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r6.tar.bz2 gives me the error There are no ebuilds to satisfy usr//portage/distfiles/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r6.tar.bz2 Obviously I missed something. But what? IS there a way i can build some index (like with RPM) or i can point emerge at the local disc only? Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Non network installation
Bèr Kessels wrote: I want to install gentoo on a laptop without network or internet connection. I use the live CD with snapshots and all installed. I chrooted and now want to run: emerge gentoo-sources This gives errors: it cannot find the packages because it looks online emerge --usepkgonly gentoo-sources gives me an error: !!! there are no packages available to satisfy gentoo-sources !!! either add a suitable binary package or compile from an ebuild. It looks like you're out-thinking yourself. :-) Remove the --usepkgonly and try it again. BUYER BEWARE: I've never done a stage 3, so if my advice is worthless... sorry. ;-) What you are thinking: I don't want to compile, I want to use a binary package only. What emerge is thinking: I wasn't going to compile anything, just put the kernel sources under /usr/src. So, this fella is telling me to only use binary packages, and there is no such thing... so I guess I can't install the sources. What will happen with 'emerge gentoo-sources' (instead of having the --usepkgonly switch): Emerge will unpack the current kernel sources to /usr/src and apply a bunch of patches that the Gentoo developers have selected (for performance enhancements and bug fixes). It will then set up a symlink /usr/src/linux that points to something link /usr/src/linux-2.4.26-gentoo-r6. It will not compile your kernel. If I understand correctly (and I might not), there isn't any way around compiling your own kernel. If you're unsure about this stuff, feel free to use the instructions for 'Alternative: Using genkernel'. Building a kernel isn't a big deal. It'll take a few hours on a 486/66, but about 10 mins on a modern processor. Good luck! -- G a b r i e l M . B e d d i n g f i e l d -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes
I've been doing manual emerge updates (a.k.a not cron) for awhile now because emerge kept wanting to update alsa-driver to 1.0.8-r1 and the compile kept failing. This morning I actually looked closely at the beginning of the emerge of alsa-driver and noticed a message that said ${ALSA_CARD} NOT DEFINED; COMPILING ALL DRIVERS (or something like that.) I remembered awhile back that someone on this list had a similiar problem and that someone told them that the driver compile would fail if the hardware the driver was for did not exist on the system. I found the Gentoo Alsa Guide online and it said that I should find out what my soundcard was and cross-reference it with the Alsa Soundcard Matrix. I did that. I'm not sure I understood the information the Matrix provided, but this is what I think it means: baby root # lspci | grep 'audio' :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) The Matrix (to the best of my understanding) said that I would use the es1371 driver for my sound card. I entered that in /etc/make.conf: ALSA_CARDS=es1371 I ran emerge -u alsa-driver. Just before it fails, it says: checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... configure: error: Unknown soundcard es1371 Did I give the wrong driver? I think I got it right. Also mentioned in the Alsa Soundcard Matrix were ens1371 and snd-es1371, but I modprobed both of those and didn't find them. I successfully modprobed es1371... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes
Michael Sullivan wrote: I've been doing manual emerge updates (a.k.a not cron) for awhile now because emerge kept wanting to update alsa-driver to 1.0.8-r1 and the compile kept failing. This morning I actually looked closely at the beginning of the emerge of alsa-driver and noticed a message that said ${ALSA_CARD} NOT DEFINED; COMPILING ALL DRIVERS (or something like that.) I remembered awhile back that someone on this list had a similiar problem and that someone told them that the driver compile would fail if the hardware the driver was for did not exist on the system. I found the Gentoo Alsa Guide online and it said that I should find out what my soundcard was and cross-reference it with the Alsa Soundcard Matrix. I did that. I'm not sure I understood the information the Matrix provided, but this is what I think it means: baby root # lspci | grep 'audio' :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) The Matrix (to the best of my understanding) said that I would use the es1371 driver for my sound card. I entered that in /etc/make.conf: ALSA_CARDS=es1371 I ran emerge -u alsa-driver. Just before it fails, it says: checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... configure: error: Unknown soundcard es1371 Did I give the wrong driver? I think I got it right. Also mentioned in the Alsa Soundcard Matrix were ens1371 and snd-es1371, but I modprobed both of those and didn't find them. I successfully modprobed es1371... According to make menuconfig, this module is (snd-)ens1371, not es1371. Typo, thus? HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes
baby src # modprobe snd-ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module snd-ens1371 baby src # modprobe ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module ens1371 baby src # modprobe es1371 baby src # On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 16:56 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've been doing manual emerge updates (a.k.a not cron) for awhile now because emerge kept wanting to update alsa-driver to 1.0.8-r1 and the compile kept failing. This morning I actually looked closely at the beginning of the emerge of alsa-driver and noticed a message that said ${ALSA_CARD} NOT DEFINED; COMPILING ALL DRIVERS (or something like that.) I remembered awhile back that someone on this list had a similiar problem and that someone told them that the driver compile would fail if the hardware the driver was for did not exist on the system. I found the Gentoo Alsa Guide online and it said that I should find out what my soundcard was and cross-reference it with the Alsa Soundcard Matrix. I did that. I'm not sure I understood the information the Matrix provided, but this is what I think it means: baby root # lspci | grep 'audio' :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) The Matrix (to the best of my understanding) said that I would use the es1371 driver for my sound card. I entered that in /etc/make.conf: ALSA_CARDS=es1371 I ran emerge -u alsa-driver. Just before it fails, it says: checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... configure: error: Unknown soundcard es1371 Did I give the wrong driver? I think I got it right. Also mentioned in the Alsa Soundcard Matrix were ens1371 and snd-es1371, but I modprobed both of those and didn't find them. I successfully modprobed es1371... According to make menuconfig, this module is (snd-)ens1371, not es1371. Typo, thus? HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10 and automounting ?
raptor wrote: hi, how do u do automounting in 2.6.10 in 2.6.5 supermount was working, now on boot I get message that kernel does not have support for supermount. I enabled two things in FS abount automounting..checking.. yeah ... Kernel automounter support version 4.. what I have to do to enable it ?! From the help I read that this is for nfs not for cdrom mounting ? tia I don't think this is what you're looking for. In order to have automatic removable media mounting, you now have several choices: 1) patch the kernel to re-enable supermount, which is considered evil, thus why it was removed. However, the ck-sources still patches for supermount, and even if you don't want to use ck-sources, you can nick the patch from the homepage and use it anyway. This is what I do, as no matter how evil it is, supermount actually works reliably, and that is what is most important to me. 2) Use subfs (also a kernel option, iirc). It seems to start out working OK, then fails at some point during a session (cd disks become unreadable, possibly unejectable), and I usually have to log out and back in to clear whatever got all confused. Very annoying. 3) Use the user-space automounting functionality, dbus in combination with hal and ivman. Not particularly stable in my experience, but people have been working on these components and they may have improved. See the forums for a really long thread about ivman. 4) You may be able to use autofs (which may be the same as the kernel option you discussed, but I don't know), but I've not used it and I don't really know much about it. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10 and automounting ?
El sáb, 12-02-2005 a las 17:58 +0200, raptor escribió: how do u do automounting in 2.6.10 in 2.6.5 supermount was working, now on boot I get message that kernel does not have support for supermount. I enabled two things in FS abount automounting..checking.. yeah ... Kernel automounter support version 4.. what I have to do to enable it ?! do you want automount for usb and cdroms? why don't you use udev+hotplug +hal+[gnome-volume-manager|ivman]? From the help I read that this is for nfs not for cdrom mounting ? i know that nfs mounts are mounted automaticly when added to fstab, if you don't want it, you put noauto in the 4th column, like floppies and cdroms. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes
Michael Sullivan wrote: baby src # modprobe snd-ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module snd-ens1371 baby src # modprobe ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module ens1371 baby src # modprobe es1371 baby src # Yes, I understand that, jut just because the module is called es1371, it does not mean that the *card* is also called es1371-- in fact it probably is not, given that alsa-driver does not recognize that as a valid card, or valid card name, or something, during the compile. So what I meant is that maybe your ALSA_CARDS setting should be for ens1371, which might compile the snd-es1371 driver. It would be odd, but it could happen. Holly On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 16:56 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've been doing manual emerge updates (a.k.a not cron) for awhile now because emerge kept wanting to update alsa-driver to 1.0.8-r1 and the compile kept failing. This morning I actually looked closely at the beginning of the emerge of alsa-driver and noticed a message that said ${ALSA_CARD} NOT DEFINED; COMPILING ALL DRIVERS (or something like that.) I remembered awhile back that someone on this list had a similiar problem and that someone told them that the driver compile would fail if the hardware the driver was for did not exist on the system. I found the Gentoo Alsa Guide online and it said that I should find out what my soundcard was and cross-reference it with the Alsa Soundcard Matrix. I did that. I'm not sure I understood the information the Matrix provided, but this is what I think it means: baby root # lspci | grep 'audio' :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) The Matrix (to the best of my understanding) said that I would use the es1371 driver for my sound card. I entered that in /etc/make.conf: ALSA_CARDS=es1371 I ran emerge -u alsa-driver. Just before it fails, it says: checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... configure: error: Unknown soundcard es1371 Did I give the wrong driver? I think I got it right. Also mentioned in the Alsa Soundcard Matrix were ens1371 and snd-es1371, but I modprobed both of those and didn't find them. I successfully modprobed es1371... According to make menuconfig, this module is (snd-)ens1371, not es1371. Typo, thus? HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes [SOLVED]
It did. I changed my ALSA_CARD setting from es1371 to ens1371 and alsa-driver successfully installed. Weird. On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 17:12 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: baby src # modprobe snd-ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module snd-ens1371 baby src # modprobe ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module ens1371 baby src # modprobe es1371 baby src # Yes, I understand that, jut just because the module is called es1371, it does not mean that the *card* is also called es1371-- in fact it probably is not, given that alsa-driver does not recognize that as a valid card, or valid card name, or something, during the compile. So what I meant is that maybe your ALSA_CARDS setting should be for ens1371, which might compile the snd-es1371 driver. It would be odd, but it could happen. Holly On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 16:56 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've been doing manual emerge updates (a.k.a not cron) for awhile now because emerge kept wanting to update alsa-driver to 1.0.8-r1 and the compile kept failing. This morning I actually looked closely at the beginning of the emerge of alsa-driver and noticed a message that said ${ALSA_CARD} NOT DEFINED; COMPILING ALL DRIVERS (or something like that.) I remembered awhile back that someone on this list had a similiar problem and that someone told them that the driver compile would fail if the hardware the driver was for did not exist on the system. I found the Gentoo Alsa Guide online and it said that I should find out what my soundcard was and cross-reference it with the Alsa Soundcard Matrix. I did that. I'm not sure I understood the information the Matrix provided, but this is what I think it means: baby root # lspci | grep 'audio' :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04) The Matrix (to the best of my understanding) said that I would use the es1371 driver for my sound card. I entered that in /etc/make.conf: ALSA_CARDS=es1371 I ran emerge -u alsa-driver. Just before it fails, it says: checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... configure: error: Unknown soundcard es1371 Did I give the wrong driver? I think I got it right. Also mentioned in the Alsa Soundcard Matrix were ens1371 and snd-es1371, but I modprobed both of those and didn't find them. I successfully modprobed es1371... According to make menuconfig, this module is (snd-)ens1371, not es1371. Typo, thus? HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
I'm trying to install Gentoo from a UniversalCD using the instructions found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and I must say the instructions could use some editing. The instructions in section 5 for installing from the UniversalCD are so intertangled with those for downloading that it's very difficult to follow them. There are sections that are labelled for CD installation but they seem to bump into download instructions. I prefer to download and install packages after I have a basic Linux system installed.and working. I'm sure it would help others like me who aren't experts if the two methods were separated into two distinct sections that don't switch back and forth between the CD and download procedures. Are instructions available that describe how to do everything from CD without sliding into the download procedure?. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Java Applet Window on Mozilla
Hi I've juste installer jre-1_5_0_01.bin everything is working fine except that when I opened a java applet window (Volano Chat) on Mozilla I am not able to close it. I am not sure if Jre causes the problem or the mozilla Broswer. Any Suggestions please ? cApTaiN_FaNtAsTiK _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indésirables articulés sur la technologie brevetée MicrosoftMD SmartScreen. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/junkmail Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes II (my alsa-utils woes)
I emerge alsa-utils. At the end of the emerge it told me that I needed to manually configure /etc/modules.d/alsa. I opened it up in vim and looked at it. It didn't make much sense to me, except one comment that said: ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s) ## and then run `update-modules' command. ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info. I looked back at the Gentoo Alsa Guide (which I still had open) and I changed the snd-card-0 alias to ens1371: ## ALSA portion alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371 ## OSS/Free portion ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 ## I found it a little curious that snd-card-1 was already set to snd-ens1371, but since it was commented out I left it, exited and ran modules-update. It gave me this output: baby root # modules-update depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_svw.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.o Do I have something set wrong? It occurred to me that snd-card-1 was already set to snd-ens1371 because the original sound card that came in this PC was a VIA Technologies card (this PC is an old HP Pavilion and I think that the VIA card was mounted on the motherboard. It failed every other reboot and sometimes while someone was logged in, so I took it to the shop and had them install a more reliable sound card and to disable the VIA in the BIOS.) Is there something else I need to change to get this to work? I didn't find the /usr/share/doc/alsa-driver-1.0.1-rc1/INSTALL file very helpful - I didn't see anything in there about customizing /etc/modules.d/alsa for a specific sound card, though I did see the section on autoloading sound card drivers for 2.4 kernels. I use kernel 2.4.26-gentoo-r15... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes [SOLVED]
Michael Sullivan wrote: It did. I changed my ALSA_CARD setting from es1371 to ens1371 and alsa-driver successfully installed. Weird. On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 17:12 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: baby src # modprobe snd-ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module snd-ens1371 baby src # modprobe ens1371 modprobe: Can't locate module ens1371 baby src # modprobe es1371 baby src # Yes, I understand that, jut just because the module is called es1371, it does not mean that the *card* is also called es1371-- in fact it probably is not, given that alsa-driver does not recognize that as a valid card, or valid card name, or something, during the compile. So what I meant is that maybe your ALSA_CARDS setting should be for ens1371, which might compile the snd-es1371 driver. It would be odd, but it could happen. Holly Yes, usually the hardware is named exactly the same as the driver, but on the odd occasion (like this), there is a slight variation. Glad you got it working. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dvd permissions ?
Hi, i have problems writing the dvd writer... i remember to have similar problems when I brought CDRW.. with all mungling with devfs also remember that the problem happen to be /etc/security/console.perms Now I'm tring to make the similar correction i.e. : burner=/dev/scd* /dev/sg* /dev/pcd* /dev/pg* /dev/cdwriter /dev/scsi/*/*/*/*/generic \ /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd the last row is for the dvd-writer (the way k3b detect it).. Now is there a way to activate these changes w/o restarting the computer ??? So if not this is the problem I can continue tests and not convert to windows-junkie, restarting and restarting and restarting :)) afaik this is a part of a PAM ftamework tia -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes II (my alsa-utils woes)
Michael Sullivan wrote: I emerge alsa-utils. At the end of the emerge it told me that I needed to manually configure /etc/modules.d/alsa. I opened it up in vim and looked at it. It didn't make much sense to me, except one comment that said: ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s) ## and then run `update-modules' command. ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info. I looked back at the Gentoo Alsa Guide (which I still had open) and I changed the snd-card-0 alias to ens1371: ## ALSA portion alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371 ## OSS/Free portion ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 ## I found it a little curious that snd-card-1 was already set to snd-ens1371, but since it was commented out I left it, exited and ran modules-update. It gave me this output: baby root # modules-update depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_svw.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.o Do I have something set wrong? It occurred to me that snd-card-1 was already set to snd-ens1371 because the original sound card that came in this PC was a VIA Technologies card (this PC is an old HP Pavilion and I think that the VIA card was mounted on the motherboard. It failed every other reboot and sometimes while someone was logged in, so I took it to the shop and had them install a more reliable sound card and to disable the VIA in the BIOS.) Is there something else I need to change to get this to work? I didn't find the /usr/share/doc/alsa-driver-1.0.1-rc1/INSTALL file very helpful - I didn't see anything in there about customizing /etc/modules.d/alsa for a specific sound card, though I did see the section on autoloading sound card drivers for 2.4 kernels. I use kernel 2.4.26-gentoo-r15... Um... the three modules that are failing appear to have nothing to do with alsa, sound, or the original onboard chip. They all clearly contain 'sata' in their names, indicating that they are related to SATA IDE controllers, which you may or may not have (if you don't have them, that's probably why they didn't compile correctly when you compiled your kernel; if you do have them, they may not have been recompiled/updated when you upgraded your kernel-- these are the usual causes of 'unresolved symbol' errors; some kind of kernel mismatch). Is your problem that modules-update did not complete because of these errors, or that sound still does not work? If the latter, try modprobing the sound module or stopping and restarting alsasound, or rebooting... these new drivers don't just leap into place by themselves, you know ;-) . HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
I like GMail but it comes with its own way of working. - Mark AFAICT you do get the mail in the thread. IIRC it didn't used too and now will show your message if you start a thread. The thing is that there may be some in this thread that use gmail pop (like me). What gmail does *not* do is mark your message as new (cos it's not), so you won't get it with the other new pop messages in your (for example) thunderbird inbox. I might be wrong about it showing up in the web interface but the rest is good. Cheers Antoine ps. This is still quite annoying! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When 2005.0 release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Roberts wrote: On 03:05 Sat 12 Feb , Andrew Gaffney wrote: -- Zhang Yong -- wrote: According to the weekly letter, 2005.0 should release in January, but now it is not out yet. Who know when, i am waiting it for my office computer. The 2005.0 release has been temporarily delayed due to a shortage of manpower. It will be released when it is finished. Is there any reason you can't install using a 2004.3 LiveCD and stages? I saw something in the dev list about February 21st. No promises That date is a proposed upload date, not a release date. Cheers - -- One picture is worth 128K words. Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Gentoo/BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCDj5ZC3poscuANHARAl4aAJ9LEiRpRc0WfnelK1kXXPdocbGhewCfdtEV GY6QMeJsaC2AKkx+7cPMa/0= =Hjpr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? I am connected to the net through a wireless link that uses pppoe. I would like to monitor whats going out and coming in and what program and or ports are being used. IE ftp, bittorent, a browser etc any ideas? http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=net-analyzer There's quite a few good command line monitors available in portage. - -- One picture is worth 128K words. Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Gentoo/BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCDj66C3poscuANHARAtjFAJoD2A2wc6hwwkSXgpld22HqjlFV0ACePGhc wL1vWJBea1i+vaFx/XF+Z2o= =JMDq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
Myself I just installed fetchmail to get my gmail messages and then use courier-imap to read them. Works like a charm, no problems at all. I like GMail but it comes with its own way of working. - Mark AFAICT you do get the mail in the thread. IIRC it didn't used too and now will show your message if you start a thread. The thing is that there may be some in this thread that use gmail pop (like me). What gmail does *not* do is mark your message as new (cos it's not), so you won't get it with the other new pop messages in your (for example) thunderbird inbox. I might be wrong about it showing up in the web interface but the rest is good. Cheers Antoine ps. This is still quite annoying! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes II (my alsa-utils woes)
I modprobed es1371 and it worked fine, however I'm not getting any sound. I was getting sound before I upgraded alsa-driver and installed alsa-utils. I checked to make sure that alsasound was running; it wasn't. I tried to start it and got this output: baby root # /etc/init.d/alsasound start * Loading ALSA modules... * Loading: snd-card-0... /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o: insmod snd-card-0 fa [ !! ] * Loading: snd-mixer-oss... [ ok ] * Loading: snd-pcm-oss... [ ok ] * Loading: snd-seq-oss... [ ok ] * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels... * No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card! [ ok ] I will try rebooting and see if it fixes the problem, but I have a feeling it won't... On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 18:05 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I emerge alsa-utils. At the end of the emerge it told me that I needed to manually configure /etc/modules.d/alsa. I opened it up in vim and looked at it. It didn't make much sense to me, except one comment that said: ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s) ## and then run `update-modules' command. ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info. I looked back at the Gentoo Alsa Guide (which I still had open) and I changed the snd-card-0 alias to ens1371: ## ALSA portion alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371 ## OSS/Free portion ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 ## I found it a little curious that snd-card-1 was already set to snd-ens1371, but since it was commented out I left it, exited and ran modules-update. It gave me this output: baby root # modules-update depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_svw.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.o Do I have something set wrong? It occurred to me that snd-card-1 was already set to snd-ens1371 because the original sound card that came in this PC was a VIA Technologies card (this PC is an old HP Pavilion and I think that the VIA card was mounted on the motherboard. It failed every other reboot and sometimes while someone was logged in, so I took it to the shop and had them install a more reliable sound card and to disable the VIA in the BIOS.) Is there something else I need to change to get this to work? I didn't find the /usr/share/doc/alsa-driver-1.0.1-rc1/INSTALL file very helpful - I didn't see anything in there about customizing /etc/modules.d/alsa for a specific sound card, though I did see the section on autoloading sound card drivers for 2.4 kernels. I use kernel 2.4.26-gentoo-r15... Um... the three modules that are failing appear to have nothing to do with alsa, sound, or the original onboard chip. They all clearly contain 'sata' in their names, indicating that they are related to SATA IDE controllers, which you may or may not have (if you don't have them, that's probably why they didn't compile correctly when you compiled your kernel; if you do have them, they may not have been recompiled/updated when you upgraded your kernel-- these are the usual causes of 'unresolved symbol' errors; some kind of kernel mismatch). Is your problem that modules-update did not complete because of these errors, or that sound still does not work? If the latter, try modprobing the sound module or stopping and restarting alsasound, or rebooting... these new drivers don't just leap into place by themselves, you know ;-) . HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem with nptl
Hi, I just installed a system from stage 1 with the nptl use flag (but didnt specify nptlonly). Everything went fine, but if I now try LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.20 getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION I do get a getconf: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory To me it looks like there is no non-nptl version of libc and co installed. Would someone have any ideas as to what I might have done wrong? I have some programs that do not play nicely with nptl enabled and thus I'd like to disable it for them (via this LD_ASSUME_KERNEL env.). etcat -v glibc shows: [ I] 2.3.4.20040808-r1 (2.2) I'd appreciate any help. kind regards Philip -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant monitoring, tcpdump/ethereal for packet capturing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] libppm
Hi, anyone know where I can get this library? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with nptl
Philip Lawatsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I just installed a system from stage 1 with the nptl use flag (but didnt specify nptlonly). Everything went fine, but if I now try LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.20 getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION I do get a getconf: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory To me it looks like there is no non-nptl version of libc and co installed. Would someone have any ideas as to what I might have done wrong? I have some programs that do not play nicely with nptl enabled and thus I'd like to disable it for them (via this LD_ASSUME_KERNEL env.). etcat -v glibc shows: [ I] 2.3.4.20040808-r1 (2.2) I think that version of glibc only installs nptl or linuxthreads (not both) depending on the USE=nptl flags. I think that in order to get both nptl and the old linuxthreads you have to use a ~arch version of glibc. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT software to block IPs automatically?
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:27:13PM -0500, R'twick Niceorgaw wrote In that case, if I ever on the road/ at a friend's house, I will not be able to access my box. If I knew all the addresses that I'll be connecting from, then it would have been the best thing. Can you carry around your ssh key on a floppy or a USB fob? If so, you could set your sshd config to allow only key logins, not password logins. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] An infinite number of monkeys pounding away on keyboards will eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure, and has a lower TCO, than linux. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with nptl
Graham Murray wrote: etcat -v glibc shows: [ I] 2.3.4.20040808-r1 (2.2) I think that version of glibc only installs nptl or linuxthreads (not both) depending on the USE=nptl flags. I think that in order to get both nptl and the old linuxthreads you have to use a ~arch version of glibc. Ok, thanks for the hint, any suggestions as to which version I should use? I really want to use something which will not kill my system and usually use ~arch with great care :) kind regards Philip -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cannot find cdroms
In my (latest) gentoo box with kernel 2.6.10I have the following CDROMS as indicated in /var/log/messages: . -- Probing IDE interface ide1... -- hdc: Compaq DVD-ROM DVD-113 0114, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive -- hdd: RAPTOR RED, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive -- ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 ... -- hdc: ATAPI DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33) -- Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 -- hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2976kB Cache, UDMA(33) -- EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa0 ... But when I mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom gentoo complains that it cannot find /dev/cdroms/cdrom0. And as a matter of fact it doesn't exist. What should I check and do? Vittorio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] nvidia GLX extensions problem.
Hello, I have looked around quite a bit and I still cannot find an answer to my problem. Sorry to bother you with annoying GLX stuff. :) I have recently decided to attempt to setup my nvidia card properly... and I did run into quite an annoying problem. I followed the gentoo nvidia guide step by step, but I have ran into a problem I cannot find the answer anywhere. X11 works fine, but the colors and the resolution are all weird. I have seen similar problems on the web, but nothing that matches my case properly. If I run glxinfo, I get the following output: bash-2.05b# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x21 8 pc 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x22 8 gs 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x23 8 sc 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 8 tc 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x25 8 dc 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x26 8 sg 1 0 0 c . . 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None I guess that my problem comes from the RGB stuff, but I can't find any solution to this by looking it up on google. Other similar problems also have some weird Cannot find GLX extensions on display 0.0 errors on top of the RGB one. So, if anyone has a solution, could he/she help me? Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
quoth the A1ex: I'm trying to install Gentoo from a UniversalCD using the instructions found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and I must say the instructions could use some editing. The instructions in section 5 for installing from the UniversalCD are so intertangled with those for downloading that it's very difficult to follow them. There are sections that are labelled for CD installation but they seem to bump into download instructions. I prefer to download and install packages after I have a basic Linux system installed.and working. I'm sure it would help others like me who aren't experts if the two methods were separated into two distinct sections that don't switch back and forth between the CD and download procedures. Are instructions available that describe how to do everything from CD without sliding into the download procedure?. alex Dude, how hard is it to skip section 5c? Right at the bottom of sect. 5b is a clickable link that will skip it for you -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Cannot find cdroms
On Saturday 12 February 2005 20:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when I mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom gentoo complains that it cannot find /dev/cdroms/cdrom0. And as a matter of fact it doesn't exist. What should I check and do? Vittorio mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.11-rc3, Compiled #2 Sat Feb 5 20:19:57 CET 2005 One 1.53GHz AMD Athlon XP Processor, 1.5GB RAM, 3022.84 Bogomips Total macula -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes II (my alsa-utils woes)
Michael Sullivan wrote: I modprobed es1371 and it worked fine, however I'm not getting any sound. I was getting sound before I upgraded alsa-driver and installed alsa-utils. I checked to make sure that alsasound was running; it wasn't. I tried to start it and got this output: baby root # /etc/init.d/alsasound start * Loading ALSA modules... * Loading: snd-card-0... /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.26-gentoo-r15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.o: insmod snd-card-0 fa [ !! ] * Loading: snd-mixer-oss... [ ok ] * Loading: snd-pcm-oss... [ ok ] * Loading: snd-seq-oss... [ ok ] * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels... * No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card! [ ok ] I will try rebooting and see if it fixes the problem, but I have a feeling it won't... Yes, but we've already established that the module name is not snd-ens1371 but snd-es1371, for whatever reason. Now clearly ALSA is confused in some way, since the script is trying to load a module that does not exist, rather than the module you need. You probably should edit /etc/modules.d/alsa to say alias snd-card-0 snd-es1371 instead of alias snd-card-0 snd-ens1371 Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo KDE problem
hi all, I have installed gentoo on a machine with alpha architecture. I have installed KDE 3.3 KDE works perfectly alright. but when i try to logout the machine completely hangs and i am left with no option other than hard reboot. however, if i try terminating my X server with Ctrl-Alt-backspace i get the prompt as usual. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and Regards, saurabh -- Saurabh Joshi Project RA (CFDVS), Dept of CSE, IIT Bombay -400076 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes [SOLVED]
Why does modprobe detect es1371 but not detect ens1371 if they're both for the same card? On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 20:40 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 16:23, Michael Sullivan wrote: It did. I changed my ALSA_CARD setting from es1371 to ens1371 and alsa-driver successfully installed. Weird. Not weird at all. es1371 is the module for the the OSS driver; ens1371 is the module for the ALSA driver. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes [SOLVED]
Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 16:23, Michael Sullivan wrote: It did. I changed my ALSA_CARD setting from es1371 to ens1371 and alsa-driver successfully installed. Weird. Not weird at all. es1371 is the module for the the OSS driver; ens1371 is the module for the ALSA driver. Then why would the alsa-driver package refuse to compile the alsa module, but successfuly compile the oss module? I still don't get it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cannot find cdroms
Francesco Talamona wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 20:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when I mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom gentoo complains that it cannot find /dev/cdroms/cdrom0. And as a matter of fact it doesn't exist. What should I check and do? Vittorio mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom Ciao Francesco you should add the cdrom/s on your fstab. like /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro,user -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia GLX extensions problem.
Hi, please post your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log. Without them it is very hard to guess what went wrong. Glück Auf Volker -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia GLX extensions problem.
Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, please post your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log. Without them it is very hard to guess what went wrong. Glück Auf Volker -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I have posted here too quickly. I have found the solution by myself by randombly adding an Option DefaultDepth 24 under Device in my xorg.conf. Thanks for your reply, though. :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CD boots to kernel panic
I downloaded and burned the 2004.3 x86 Universal LiveCD, but when I put it in and reboot, I get an error about a null pointer at virtual address , and then it finally stops at a kernel panic along the lines of 0 Kernel panic - not syncing - Attempted to kill init! (I think; the text scrolls by pretty fast.) The MD5 sum checks, and I verified the CD after burning it with Nero. I've tested the LiveCD in another computer and it works perfectly, so it's got to be my hardware. Memtest86 finds no problems with my RAM, and my hardware was not overclocked or overvoltaged at the time. (Hardware specs available on request.) Any idea what's up? Or should I just wait for 2005.0? -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: libppm
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:11:12 +0100, Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, anyone know where I can get this library? Cheers Antoine I found a copy in netpbm 9.14 don't know why it isn't in the latest - factored into other libs maybe? In any case, anyone know why subtitle2pbm can't find it? I put links to it in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib and reemerged transcode but sub2pbm still can't find it... Any ideas? Cheers Antoine -- G System, The Evolving GUniverse - http://www.g-system.at -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot find cdroms
On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my (latest) gentoo box with kernel 2.6.10I have the following CDROMS as indicated in /var/log/messages: . -- hdc: Compaq DVD-ROM DVD-113 0114, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive -- hdd: RAPTOR RED, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ... -- hdc: ATAPI DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33) -- hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2976kB Cache, UDMA(33) ... But when I mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom gentoo complains that it cannot find /dev/cdroms/cdrom0. And as a matter of fact it doesn't exist. What should I check and do? Mount /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd instead? Create appropriate device nodes / symlinks? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. Thanks. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant monitoring, tcpdump/ethereal for packet capturing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
,On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. Thanks. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Richard Robson wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 13:14 +0200, PK wrote: Is there a utility which allows one to monitor traffic through a device? that will tell you whats going through your net connection and how much etc ? My favorites are iftop for instant monitoring, ntop for constant monitoring, tcpdump/ethereal for packet capturing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sound system/daemon use flags.
There are 4 use flags that concern me: oss alsa esd arts. [I suppose there are other use flags out there, like jack and maybe dmix in the future, but I'm not worried about those ATM.] What I'd like to do is have programs that support arts (have an arts use flag) compile support for arts, but none of the others. Then, any that support esd but not arts (have an esd use flag, but no arts use flag) compile support for esd and no others. Then, alsa and finally oss (although I'll have oss apps use arts through the compatability layer.) Is there a simple way to do this, or do I have to go through all my packages to set my use flags in package.use manually? AFAICT, I have to have arts to get sounds from most KDE apps and I have to have esd to get sound from flash so I'm thinking my sound setup should be somthing like: arts - esd - alsa oss ---^ -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Non network installation
On Saturday 12 February 2005 09:12 am, Bèr Kessels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to install gentoo on a laptop without network or internet connection. I use the live CD with snapshots and all installed. I chrooted and now want to run: emerge --usepkgonly /usr/portage/distfiles/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r6.tar.bz2 This line should be: emerge --usepkgonly sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.26-r6 emerge only accepts cat-egory/package-version or full/path/to.ebuild, AFAIK. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-alpha] gentoo KDE problem
On Saturday 12 February 2005 02:33 pm, Joshi Saurabh wrote: KDE works perfectly alright. but when i try to logout the machine completely hangs and i am left with no option other than hard reboot. however, if i try terminating my X server with Ctrl-Alt-backspace i get the prompt as usual. I have the same problem on a DEC Alphastation 200 (4/166). Below, I'm posting my information regarding the problem. Please post the same information. I am not using X/KDE, but I am using linux 2.4.21-alpha-r16, aboot 0.9-r1, SRM console with firmware v7.0. I have not resolved the problem. I don't have a workaround. I've seen a few open bugs on it, mostly posted with the BSD distros. I'm confident that the problem has nothing to do with KDE. The problem is most likely: 1. a problem with the kernel handing control back over to the SRM console properly 2. a problem with aboot handing control back over to the SRM console properly 3. a bad SRM console setting For me, the sequence goes something like this: This is leo.local (Linux alpha 2.4.21-alpha-r16) 16:19:06 leo login: root Password: Last login: Thu Dec 23 21:48:39 from orion.local leo root # reboot Broadcast message from root (tts/0) (Sat Feb 12 16:19:48 2005): The system is going down for reboot NOW! INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal INIT: Sending processes the KILL signal * Stopping local... [ ok ] * Unmounting network filesystems... [ ok ] * Stopping sshd... [ ok ] * Stopping vixie-cron... [ ok ] * Stopping vsftpd... [ ok ] * Stopping metalog... [ ok ] * Syncing hardware clock to system clock [UTC]... [ ok ] * Saving random seed... [ ok ] * Bringing eth0 down... [ ok ] * Bringing lo down... [ ok ] * Stopping devfsd... [ ok ] * Deactivating swap... [ ok ] * Unmounting filesystems... [ ok ] * Remounting remaining filesystems readonly... [ ok ] Restarting system. halted CPU 0 halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed PC = fc310040 CPU 0 booting Avanti System Machine Check Through Vector 000 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- DCSR (Epic): 8018081d-- ,nDEV SEAR ( Sysd0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- DCSR (Epic): 801c085d-- ,lost,nDFFF BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E : 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- CSR (Epic): 8018081d-- ,nDEV SEAR ( SysAddr): 01fc84b0 PEAR ( PciAddr): 881001f8 Avanti System Machine Check Through Vector 0660 logout frame address 0x6048 code 0x10205 IPRs: EXC_ADD:00087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (C05801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY:005 IPRs: EXC_ADD:00087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 84b0 PEAR ( PciAddr): 881001f8 Avanti System Machine Check Through Vector 0660 logout frame address 0x6048 code 0x1942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- DCSR (Epic): 8018081d-- ,nDEV SEAR ( SysAddr):00041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- 7 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:0087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 Through Vector 0660 logout frame address 0x6048 code 0x10205 IPRs: EXC_ADD:00087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: UNLL..0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 46F80004 HIER:
[gentoo-user] apache php and mysql
Is there a place where I can find a decent step by step howto for installing and confuguring apache mysql and php? I found one on the forums, here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=2086047#2086047 But I followed it exactly and got errors Any ideas? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
12 2005 17:10 Mark Knecht (a): On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:56:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what does I don`t recive my mail-message back mean? Do you mean that 1) gmail does not save a copy of the mail you sent to the list in gmail's Sent Mail folder? or 2) You get the posts from the list, but your mail is not among them (you receive replies to what you posted, but you do not see the original post you made, which should be at the head of the thread)? Hi Holly, I use Gmail and I've experienced what Makurin sees. What Gmail does is puts everything ito a single thread. That's not unique. What is a bit different is that the post I make to the list is the copy it seems to keep in the thread. You do not end up with the copy you sent and the copy you received back. You see only one. Makurin is receiving his posts but GMail is hiding them from him. He can prove this by sending a message to this list but then going to the sent folder and deleting the sent copy to trash and emptying the trash. I find when I do this that when I receive my copy back from the list a few minutes later I do see it. It's just a strange aspect of GMail. - Mark Wow! Thanks, It helps me alot. Now I am going to the Sent folder :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 105266647 pgp2ymzoG1cZy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gmail question
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 06:10:11 -0800, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:56:21 +0100, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what does I don`t recive my mail-message back mean? Do you mean that 1) gmail does not save a copy of the mail you sent to the list in gmail's Sent Mail folder? or 2) You get the posts from the list, but your mail is not among them (you receive replies to what you posted, but you do not see the original post you made, which should be at the head of the thread)? Hi Holly, I use Gmail and I've experienced what Makurin sees. What Gmail does is puts everything ito a single thread. That's not unique. What is a bit different is that the post I make to the list is the copy it seems to keep in the thread. You do not end up with the copy you sent and the copy you received back. You see only one. Makurin is receiving his posts but GMail is hiding them from him. He can prove this by sending a message to this list but then going to the sent folder and deleting the sent copy to trash and emptying the trash. I find when I do this that when I receive my copy back from the list a few minutes later I do see it. It's just a strange aspect of GMail. I'm afraid I don't understand this at all. I've been using gmail for a long time, and I haven't ever had any problem with replying to the list, except that gmail almost always generates a duplicate reply - to the list and then to the sender, although somethimes this fails to happen. I any case, I see my message to the list at the right place in the chain, and thus I could care less which copy of my message has been saved. -- Collins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-alpha] gentoo KDE problem
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:43:27 -0600, Gabriel M. Beddingfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 02:33 pm, Joshi Saurabh wrote: KDE works perfectly alright. but when i try to logout the machine completely hangs and i am left with no option other than hard reboot. however, if i try terminating my X server with Ctrl-Alt-backspace i get the prompt as usual. I have the same problem on a DEC Alphastation 200 (4/166). Below, I'm posting my information regarding the problem. Please post the same information. I am not using X/KDE, but I am using linux 2.4.21-alpha-r16, aboot 0.9-r1, SRM console with firmware v7.0. I have not resolved the problem. I don't have a workaround. I've seen a few open bugs on it, mostly posted with the BSD distros. I'm confident that the problem has nothing to do with KDE. The problem is most likely: 1. a problem with the kernel handing control back over to the SRM console properly 2. a problem with aboot handing control back over to the SRM console properly 3. a bad SRM console setting For me, the sequence goes something like this: This is leo.local (Linux alpha 2.4.21-alpha-r16) 16:19:06 leo login: root Password: Last login: Thu Dec 23 21:48:39 from orion.local leo root # reboot Broadcast message from root (tts/0) (Sat Feb 12 16:19:48 2005): The system is going down for reboot NOW! INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal INIT: Sending processes the KILL signal * Stopping local... [ ok ] * Unmounting network filesystems... [ ok ] * Stopping sshd... [ ok ] * Stopping vixie-cron... [ ok ] * Stopping vsftpd... [ ok ] * Stopping metalog... [ ok ] * Syncing hardware clock to system clock [UTC]... [ ok ] * Saving random seed... [ ok ] * Bringing eth0 down... [ ok ] * Bringing lo down... [ ok ] * Stopping devfsd... [ ok ] * Deactivating swap... [ ok ] * Unmounting filesystems... [ ok ] * Remounting remaining filesystems readonly... [ ok ] Restarting system. halted CPU 0 halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed PC = fc310040 CPU 0 booting Avanti System Machine Check Through Vector 000 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- DCSR (Epic): 8018081d-- ,nDEV SEAR ( Sysd0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- DCSR (Epic): 801c085d-- ,lost,nDFFF BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E : 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- CSR (Epic): 8018081d-- ,nDEV SEAR ( SysAddr): 01fc84b0 PEAR ( PciAddr): 881001f8 Avanti System Machine Check Through Vector 0660 logout frame address 0x6048 code 0x10205 IPRs: EXC_ADD:00087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (C05801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY:005 IPRs: EXC_ADD:00087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 84b0 PEAR ( PciAddr): 881001f8 Avanti System Machine Check Through Vector 0660 logout frame address 0x6048 code 0x1942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- DCSR (Epic): 8018081d-- ,nDEV SEAR ( SysAddr):00041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:00011270 VA: 61D0 EXC_SUM:942E BC_TAG: 000A8057 EDSR (Comanche): 6d8d2140-- 7 DC_ADDR:0007 BIU_STAT:0041 BIU_ADD:0003881001F8 FILL_SY: FILL_ADD:0087D3A ICCSR: 46F80004 HIER: 0080 HIRR: 0040 MM_CSR: 5801 DC_STAT:0007 DC_ADDR:0007 Through Vector 0660 logout frame address 0x6048 code 0x10205 IPRs: EXC_ADD:00087D3A
Re: [gentoo-user] apache php and mysql
13 2005 02:00 PK (a): Is there a place where I can find a decent step by step howto for installing and confuguring apache mysql and php? I found one on the forums, here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=2086047#2086047 But I followed it exactly and got errors Here`s a brief overview what you need to do: 1)USE='mysql' emerge apache mysql mod_php 2) to enable mod_php in apache2 you need uncomment this line: APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4 in /etc/conf.d/apache2 this is correct for php-4.3.x , I don`t know about php-5.x :-) 3) start apache and mysql: /etc/init.d/apache2 start /etc/init.d/mysql start 3a) You need to setup mysql. See /etc/mysql/my.cnf 4) Add to default run level mysql and apache: rc-update add apache2 default rc-update add mysql default Any ideas? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 105266647 pgpfvKHRBbxZz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes [SOLVED]
Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 20:53, Michael Sullivan wrote: Why does modprobe detect es1371 but not detect ens1371 if they're both for the same card? On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 20:40 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 16:23, Michael Sullivan wrote: It did. I changed my ALSA_CARD setting from es1371 to ens1371 and alsa-driver successfully installed. Weird. Not weird at all. es1371 is the module for the the OSS driver; ens1371 is the module for the ALSA driver. Sorry, it's snd-ens1371 If it can't be found by modprobe that'll be because you haven't enabled it in your kernel config. $ modinfo snd-ens1371 author: Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] license:GPL description:Ensoniq/Creative AudioPCI ES1371+ parm: index:Index value for Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. parm: id:ID string for Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. parm: enable:Enable Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard. parm: joystick_port:Joystick port address. vermagic: 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 K7 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.3 depends:snd-pcm,gameport,snd-rawmidi,snd,snd-ac97-codec alias: pci:v1274d1371sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v1274d5880sv*sd*bc*sc*i* alias: pci:v1102d8938sv*sd*bc*sc*i* [ But he's using a 2.4 series kernel, with the alsa-driver package. Isn't the whole point that the alsa module is compiled by the package during emerge? But it isn't, if the alsa module is ens1371, which refused to compile... wait a minute. I think I see where we're going with this, let me start from the beginning and work it through (somewhat) logically. OK. The original problem was that the alsa-driver wouldn't compile with the wrong card specified (because the card name was wrong in /etc/make.conf). While trying to compile alsa-driver, modprobe would load the OSS driver (from the 2.4 kernel, since that was what was available), and not the alsa driver (because that does not exist in the 2.4 kernel, and the alsa-driver package was not yet compiled). Fine. We got all that straightened out, and yet we do not have alsa sound, or in fact any sound at all. Is it possible that this is because 1) Michael still has the OSS drivers enabled in the kernel, and 2) the kernel drivers are loading on boot, so 3) alsasound cannot load the alsa driver for this card because there is already a driver loaded for this card, and 4) Michael has changed all his applications and sound servers to use ALSA (which is not loaded)? I would 1) do a modprobe -r es1371 to unload the OSS driver, then 2) modprobe snd-ens1371 to see if the alsa driver loads at all. If it does, then I would disable OSS in the kernel, recompile and reboot, at which point it should all work. If it doesn't load, we need to find out where the stupid module is and what's wrong with it. Am I on the right track here? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] apache php and mysql
Makurin Roman ha scritto: 13 2005 02:00 PK (a): Is there a place where I can find a decent step by step howto for installing and confuguring apache mysql and php? I found one on the forums, here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=2086047#2086047 But I followed it exactly and got errors Here`s a brief overview what you need to do: 1)USE='mysql' emerge apache mysql mod_php 2) to enable mod_php in apache2 you need uncomment this line: APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP4 in /etc/conf.d/apache2 this is correct for php-4.3.x , I don`t know about php-5.x :-) for php5 simply change it to APACHE2_OPTS=-D PHP5 3) start apache and mysql: /etc/init.d/apache2 start /etc/init.d/mysql start 3a) You need to setup mysql. See /etc/mysql/my.cnf 4) Add to default run level mysql and apache: rc-update add apache2 default rc-update add mysql default Any ideas? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound system/daemon use flags.
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: There are 4 use flags that concern me: oss alsa esd arts. [I suppose there are other use flags out there, like jack and maybe dmix in the future, but I'm not worried about those ATM.] What I'd like to do is have programs that support arts (have an arts use flag) compile support for arts, but none of the others. Then, any that support esd but not arts (have an esd use flag, but no arts use flag) compile support for esd and no others. Then, alsa and finally oss (although I'll have oss apps use arts through the compatability layer.) I may be missing something, but how do you expect +arts to work without +alsa (or +oss)? If an app has a +esd and not a +arts, then having +arts in your USE flags doesn't matter, because no app is going to compile support for something it doesn't have. If an app has +oss, but you only have alsa drivers in use by the system, all this does is allow alsa to /inform alsa that this program will use the compatibility layer (rather than direct alsa use). If you compile -alsa and you only have alsa drivers in use by the system, that program will have no sound. About the only thing I can see this complicated hypothesis avoiding is having all forms of support being compiled for a single app (i.e., you don't want any app to ever be +esd, +arts, +oss and +alsa), but I see no reason why you would want to avoid this, unless you specifically were not going to have one of these elements on your system. But this does not seem to be the case, as you want programs that support arts to have arts, and programs that support esd to have esd. So, since arts, esd, alsa and alsa OSS support are already on your system, why does it matter that individual programs do not have the broadest range of support possible? It's not like every app with such support is going to re-emerge and recompile arts if you add +arts and arts is already present on your system. Is there a simple way to do this, or do I have to go through all my packages to set my use flags in package.use manually? Well, I would say just use all of them and let it sort itself out, but then again, I don't get what you're trying to do here. AFAICT, I have to have arts to get sounds from most KDE apps and I have to have esd to get sound from flash so I'm thinking my sound setup should be somthing like: arts - esd - alsa oss ---^ Arts doesn't use esd (they are two separate sound servers which perform parallel functions) so arts = esd is not reasonable. The situation is more like this arts = alsa esd = alsa alsa = oss Are you sure that flash won't play sounds if esd is not running? I don't have esd running atm, and I haven't noticed any problems with Flash in my browser (and my browser isn't even Konqueror, which I would have to believe should handle sound-producing content through arts). But then again I'm not in Gentoo atm, either. What USE flags was netscape-flash-plugin compiled with? Or the browser that you are using to display Flash? Holly Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: apache php and mysql
Hi, Might be good idea to post some of the errors u got :) Catalin Is there a place where I can find a decent step by step howto for installing and confuguring apache mysql and php? I found one on the forums, here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=2086047#2086047 But I followed it exactly and got errors Any ideas? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound system/daemon use flags.
On Saturday 12 February 2005 05:42 pm, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: There are 4 use flags that concern me: oss alsa esd arts. [I suppose there are other use flags out there, like jack and maybe dmix in the future, but I'm not worried about those ATM.] What I'd like to do is have programs that support arts (have an arts use flag) compile support for arts, but none of the others. Then, any that support esd but not arts (have an esd use flag, but no arts use flag) compile support for esd and no others. Then, alsa and finally oss (although I'll have oss apps use arts through the compatability layer.) I may be missing something, but how do you expect +arts to work without +alsa (or +oss)? Arts would output to esd. Esd would output to alsa. Alsa would deal with the card(s) directly. Oss would really be the alsa oss compatibility layer. I would have all 3 packages installed (arts, esound, and gentoo-dev-sources). If an app has a +esd and not a +arts, then having +arts in your USE flags doesn't matter, because no app is going to compile support for something it doesn't have. Right, but if an app has esd and arts flags having +esd will cause it to compile in support for talking to esd directly, which I will never use. If an app has +oss, but you only have alsa drivers in use by the system, all this does is allow alsa to /inform alsa that this program will use the compatibility layer (rather than direct alsa use). If you compile -alsa and you only have alsa drivers in use by the system, that program will have no sound. Again: but if an app has alsa and oss flags having +oss will cause it to compile in support for using the oss intrface, which I will never use. About the only thing I can see this complicated hypothesis avoiding is having all forms of support being compiled for a single app, but I see no reason why you would want to avoid this, unless you specifically were not going to have one of these elements on your system. I want to save on compile time and package size. If an application as arts, esd, alsa, and oss flags, I'm only going to use it's arts support so I want it compile with +arts -esd -alsa -oss. So, since arts, esd, alsa and alsa OSS support are already on your system, why does it matter that individual programs do not have the broadest range of support possible? It takes extra time to compile that support each time the programs are updated and it takes extra HD space to store those support modules *which I will never need*. === I suppose I was unclear. I want each app to only compile in support for one of these services. That way, the unneeded services do not extend my compile time or prouduce unnecessary run-time configuration options. (I'm on a PII 450, so compiling is a bit slow.) Here's a grid, I only want support compiled for the sound system listed in the rightmost column based on the use flags: Use Flags | Compile -+-+--+-+ support arts | esd | alsa | oss | for -+-+--+-+ no | no | no | no | none no | no | no | yes | oss no | no | yes | no | alsa no | no | yes | yes | alsa no | yes | no | no | esd no | yes | no | yes | esd no | yes | yes | no | esd no | yes | yes | yes | esd yes | no | no | no | arts yes | no | no | yes | arts yes | no | yes | no | arts yes | no | yes | yes | arts yes | yes | no | no | arts yes | yes | no | yes | arts yes | yes | yes | no | arts yes | yes | yes | yes | arts Is there a simple way to do this, or do I have to go through all my packages to set my use flags in package.use manually? Well, I would say just use all of them and let it sort itself out, but then again, I don't get what you're trying to do here. I am using all of them, right now. However, I'm hoping to save some compile time on upgrades. Also, it'll save some disk space since I'm not going to be using the various other output devices/plugins available. For example, xmms has 3 or more output plugins I'm not using, so does arts. AFAICT, I have to have arts to get sounds from most KDE apps and I have to have esd to get sound from flash so I'm thinking my sound setup should be somthing like: arts - esd - alsa oss ---^ Arts doesn't use esd (they are two separate sound servers which perform parallel functions) so arts = esd is not reasonable. The situation is more like this This is absolutely incorrect. If you compile arts with esd support arts will allow you do chose Enlighted Sound Daemon as your output device resulting in arts using esd. I'm doing that *now*. While you can have both arts and esd use alsa directly, I believe there is less device contention if you have arts use esd. Are you sure that flash won't play sounds if esd is not running? I don't have esd running atm, and I haven't noticed any problems with Flash in my
[gentoo-user] Controlling and Monitoring
Hi I'm wondering if there is a tool under Linux which I can used to control other programs. For instance I want to control network connections making by some program (by control I mean logging or blocking). I know that I can use (for example) #strace program and then I can watch when the program using sockets or whatever but it would be nice to have such a program which is blocking connections to the Internet by running #block-inet program and the program wouldn't have access outside the box. (I know that something similar is under GNU Hurd http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484) Is it possible under Linux? Thanks, Marcin --- Chcesz pracowac w INTERIA.PL? Zobacz: http://link.interia.pl/f1855 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
Thanks. I've got something else wrong as that doesn't work. I get the connection refused whether I run firefox as root or myself. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. # #!/bin/bash # /usr/local/bin/my-ntop sudo ntop sleep 10 firefox http://localhost:3000 # That works for me. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue
Hey everyone, I sent this about 4 days ago, and got no response. Can someone check into it please? Thanks! Ian Ian K wrote: My answers are *bold* for easy reading. Thanks again! Ian Hey Holly, sorry about the lack of information. I got the error: Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy It was repeated twice throughout the dmesg at the times when I did the modprobes. I modprobed the following: (I wont include the .ko or path) No, you don't modprobe using the .ko or path anyway, so no need to include it. snd-mpu401-uart snd-opl3-synth snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi snd-hwdep snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi-emul snd-ainstr-fm snd-seq-midi snd-opl3sa2-That gives me the DMESG error And what does lsmod say at this point: is the module loaded (meaning that it is in fact busy), or not (meaning that it is in fact not found)? Well, true, this is not a strict test, as the module might have been loaded by the kernel, in which case it does not seem to appear in an lsmod (annoying as it is), but it is someplace to start. *Well, when I go Modprobe snd-opl3sa2 I get this lovely output: FATAL: Error insetring snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device (IN DMESG): Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy. The other modprobes seem to have survived a restart, and seem to have loaded. The snd-opl3sa2 is not on the list. However, I will still put the list in this mail: Module Size Used By snd_opl3_lib 10208 0 snd-hwdep 9060 1 snd_opl3_lib snd_cs4231_lib 25696 0 snd_mpu401_uart 7456 0 snd_rawmidi 24288 1 snd_mpu401_uart * Why are you modprobing these modules manually anyway? Why are they not being loaded by the kernel, alsasound, or /etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6? *I did this for manual testing before autoloading.* And what precisely is your problem with sound-- does it not work, and in what respect does it not work? It is quite easy with Gentoo to get over-involved with errors that do not actually affect one's use of the machine (fixing errors for the sake of fixing errors, rather than just getting on with what you wanted to do. It's one of the few downsides to Gentoo ;-) ). *Well, no program can detect the sound card, and obviously, I cant hear anything when playing media/music files.* My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX. I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2 I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont know where ISAPNP is located. ISA Plug and Play support is located in Device Drivers=Plug and Play Support. *I found it, and compiled into the kernel, with no effect.* I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what audio device should i use? Autodetect? That depends. I didn't use KDE that much (before I was forced to by SuSE), but when I did, I usually found the Autodetect to suc... be less than optimal for the onboard sound chip I was using at that time (VIA 8233). Changing the sound server to use ALSA sometimes worked, but the surest bet was to use OSS or Threaded OSS (because I had ALSA OSS emulation enabled). *Thanks!* HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling and Monitoring
Quoting marcin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I'm wondering if there is a tool under Linux which I can used to control other programs. For instance I want to control network connections making by some program (by control I mean logging or blocking). I know that I can use (for example) #strace program and then I can watch when the program using sockets or whatever but it would be nice to have such a program which is blocking connections to the Internet by running #block-inet program and the program wouldn't have access outside the box. (I know that something similar is under GNU Hurd http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484) Is it possible under Linux? Thanks, Marcin --- Chcesz pracowac w INTERIA.PL? Zobacz: http://link.interia.pl/f1855 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I have not looked deeply into this, but I know for a fact that you can restrict network access to programs based on UID/GIDs with grsecurity. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Emerging World: kdelibs/kdebindings depend problem
This seemed to do the trick. Thanks Peter! Kris On Thursday 10 February 2005 4:58 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Thursday 10 February 2005 19:15, Kris Kerwin wrote: bash-2.05b# emerge -Dup world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies \ emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ~kde-base/kdelibs-3.2.0. !!! Problem with ebuild kde-base/kdebindings-3.2.0 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. You can unmerge existing kdebindings and emerge kdebindings-meta-3.3.1 (which is masked by: ~x86 keyword). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome woes (mainly window manager)
Actually, you can. Gnome -does- require an EVMH compatible windowmanager, however any such will do. openbox, kwin, metacity are the ones I've tried personally. Huh. I didn't realize that support for that was still kicking around. That's good to know. My fave is fluxbox and I run the gnome-panel on top and the fluxbox bar on the bottom. It seems much snappier than running the full Gnome desktop environment. ...and here I was just running gnome-panel from within fluxbox... I suppose there isn't that much difference, is there? shrug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome woes (mainly window manager)
James Hiscock wrote: My fave is fluxbox and I run the gnome-panel on top and the fluxbox bar on the bottom. It seems much snappier than running the full Gnome desktop environment. ...and here I was just running gnome-panel from within fluxbox... I suppose there isn't that much difference, is there? shrug Sure, there's plenty of difference... it's the same difference that caused me to switch to running gnome-panel under openbox rather than running Openbox as GNOME's WM. If you do the latter (change GNOME's WM) you still have all the infrastructure of GNOME running on the backend (most notably Nautilus, to draw the desktop, for one example). If you run gnome-panel under a different WM (but not gnome-session), the GNOME backend is much minimized, which really speeds things up a lot. Since you're not really using the majority of GNOME anyway, just possibly some individual GTK programs, the backend is quite missable except for the very basics needed to run gnome-panel itself and the panel applets you're using. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My alsa-driver woes [SOLVED]
So I shouldn't worry about using alsasound and alsa-utils? I've got sound in some places... On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 00:37 +, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 23:21, Holly Bostick wrote: But he's using a 2.4 series kernel, with the alsa-driver package. Isn't the whole point that the alsa module is compiled by the package during emerge? But it isn't, if the alsa module is ens1371, which refused to compile... wait a minute. I think I see where we're going with this, let me start from the beginning and work it through (somewhat) logically. OK. The original problem was that the alsa-driver wouldn't compile with the wrong card specified (because the card name was wrong in /etc/make.conf). While trying to compile alsa-driver, modprobe would load the OSS driver (from the 2.4 kernel, since that was what was available), and not the alsa driver (because that does not exist in the 2.4 kernel, and the alsa-driver package was not yet compiled). Fine. We got all that straightened out, and yet we do not have alsa sound, or in fact any sound at all. Is it possible that this is because 1) Michael still has the OSS drivers enabled in the kernel, and 2) the kernel drivers are loading on boot, so 3) alsasound cannot load the alsa driver for this card because there is already a driver loaded for this card, and 4) Michael has changed all his applications and sound servers to use ALSA (which is not loaded)? I would 1) do a modprobe -r es1371 to unload the OSS driver, then 2) modprobe snd-ens1371 to see if the alsa driver loads at all. If it does, then I would disable OSS in the kernel, recompile and reboot, at which point it should all work. If it doesn't load, we need to find out where the stupid module is and what's wrong with it. Am I on the right track here? Oooops again - aaagh, 2.4 kernel, yes. I suspect you are on the right track Holly. Michael, I only used the OSS drivers with that card - I found then superior to the ALSA ones. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome woes (mainly window manager)
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 02:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: If you do the latter (change GNOME's WM) you still have all the infrastructure of GNOME running on the backend (most notably Nautilus, to draw the desktop, for one example). Just this example is one I dislike, since I personally run it without Nautilus on the desktop. If you run gnome-panel under a different WM (but not gnome-session), the GNOME backend is much minimized, which really speeds things up a lot. For a few things, however not all. You instead postpone the load of a few factors until after program initialization. The one I really like is the gnome-settings backend, which sets fonts, DPI theme and so on, (and that I cheatingly use to set my background, rather than a configfile where I had bsetbg before) Why? Because I liked the gui. ;) The other thing that is nice about having the session managing the backend rather than the windowmanager, is that you can restart the WM without risking anything. ( good for openbox when you muck up the xml syntax. What? You've never done that? I hope you're kidding me, that is one of the ... ugh. :p ) gconf-d will run anyhow. you have the panel, panel needs its configuration. the vfs-daemon will run if its needed by an application, not started by the session. Other things might want the sm-proxy (if you launch other items from the session) but to avoid clobbering, I keep my session to a few defaults, and don't save it at exit. Hopefully a bit clearer on what the session manager actually does :) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] *****SPAM***** LOW * Re: [gentoo-user] OT software to block IPs automatically?
Quoting Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:27:13PM -0500, R'twick Niceorgaw wrote In that case, if I ever on the road/ at a friend's house, I will not be able to access my box. If I knew all the addresses that I'll be connecting from, then it would have been the best thing. Can you carry around your ssh key on a floppy or a USB fob? If so, you could set your sshd config to allow only key logins, not password logins. I can do that. However, just on an unfortunate day when I need to access and forgot to carry my usb drive, I'll be out of luck. However, its a good solution and will definitely try this. thanks -R'twick This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] intermitent hang at shutdown
El vie, 11-02-2005 a las 22:14 -0800, Steven Susbauer escribió: hi: Try adding [*] Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off, i've had instances where this being disabled would not turn off the machine... done, and nothing. i'm thinking that it must be some service that's keeping running... or something with pam or ssh... ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] intermitent hang at shutdown
Do you have any NFS or Samba mounts? Try adding _netdev to the mount options if you do. - Mark On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:38:29 +, rodrigo ahumada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El vie, 11-02-2005 a las 22:14 -0800, Steven Susbauer escribió: hi: Try adding [*] Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off, i've had instances where this being disabled would not turn off the machine... done, and nothing. i'm thinking that it must be some service that's keeping running... or something with pam or ssh... ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] monitoring net activity
Did that - started ,then stopped. Still get connection refused. On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 13 February 2005 00:49, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 22:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: How does one get access to ntop's data? I used firefox with http://host:3000 and keep being told the connection is refused. I tried hostname, ip address, localhost for host. ### ## #!/bin/bash # /usr/local/bin/my-ntop sudo ntop sleep 10 firefox http://localhost:3000 ### ## That works for me. Thanks. I've got something else wrong as that doesn't work. I get the connection refused whether I run firefox as root or myself. Before you do the above, do `/etc/init.d/ntop start -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] intermitent hang at shutdown
El sáb, 12-02-2005 a las 17:39 -0800, Mark Knecht escribió: Do you have any NFS or Samba mounts? Try adding _netdev to the mount options if you do. nop,fstab: /dev/hda2 / ext3noatime 0 1 /dev/hda4 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hda5 /home ext3defaults0 2 /dev/hda1 /home/windows vfatdefaults,umask=022 0 0 none/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy autoexec,user,noauto,manager 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder autoexec,user,noauto,managed 0 0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Hello
Haven't heard from you for a while. I hope all is well with you. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound system/daemon use flags.
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:17:37 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. I'm using www-netscape/netscape-flash 7.0.25. It only has one use flag available, gtk, which I have turned on. Initially I had sound, but none from flash and, IIRC, a forum post said that netscape-flash required esd to play sound; installing esd did cause flash to play sound. I'm using the latest ~x86 ebuild of firefox. The flash plugin tries to access the hardware oss device (/dev/pcm) directly. It does not support any sound daemons. Thus, if a sound daemon is already using the device, and you have a cheap soundcard, flash won't play sound. The way to fix this appears to be running firefox with a wrapper program that redirects oss to the sound daemon you prefer, like esddsp firefox -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: intermitent hang at shutdown
rodrigo ahumada wrote: El sáb, 12-02-2005 a las 17:39 -0800, Mark Knecht escribió: Do you have any NFS or Samba mounts? Try adding _netdev to the mount options if you do. nop,fstab: /dev/hda2 / ext3 noatime 0 1 What does your hardware look like? Processor? BIOS? BIOS Version? What does '# rc-update -s' give you? Since you think it's a hanging service, let us see which services you're running. Also, I've heard that some BIOSes need 'reboot=bios' as a kernel parameter in order to work properly. But since you're trying to power down... that's probably no help. HTH! -- G a b r i e l M . B e d d i n g f i e l d -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hello
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:25:41 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't heard from you for a while. I hope all is well with you. All is well here, but I don't think you meant to send this to the list, or ??? -- Collins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
Op zaterdag 12 februari 2005 21:00, schreef darren kirby: Dude, how hard is it to skip section 5c? Right at the bottom of sect. 5b is a clickable link that will skip it for you Its not just about skipping sections. I second (as a newbie) that the install instructions are very network oriented, and that a separate manual for non network installs would greatly improve readability for both network and non-network installs Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hello
Nope G. I hit the compose key while in the maillist but thinking I was in my mailbox. Maybe I need to just go to bed G. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Collins Richey wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:25:41 -0500 (EST), Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't heard from you for a while. I hope all is well with you. All is well here, but I don't think you meant to send this to the list, or ??? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Non network installation
Op zaterdag 12 februari 2005 16:33, schreef Gabriel M. Beddingfield: It looks like you're out-thinking yourself. :-) could be. Remove the --usepkgonly and try it again. BUYER BEWARE: I've never done a stage 3, so if my advice is worthless... sorry. ;-) you might have missed the line in my email : # emerge gentoo-sources This gives errors: it cannot find the packages because it looks online What you are thinking: I don't want to compile, I want to use a binary package only. Sorry, i /do/ want to compile, thats why i chose gentoo, and not fedora or mandrake. I only do not want emerge to look online, because *there is no such thing as internet on that laptop*. Building a kernel isn't a big deal. It'll take a few hours on a 486/66, but about 10 mins on a modern processor. I know that, even on my mandrake machine (where i am typing this now) I have recompiled the kernel in the past. :) Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Non network installation
Bèr Kessels wrote: Remove the --usepkgonly and try it again. BUYER BEWARE: I've never done a stage 3, so if my advice is worthless... sorry. ;-) you might have missed the line in my email : # emerge gentoo-sources This gives errors: it cannot find the packages because it looks online Yep. I missed that part. :P Believe it or not, I went back to look for just that... but overlooked it. How far did you get with Boyd's suggestion? In the chroot environment, what does 'ls -d /usr/portage/distfiles/linux*' give you? -- G a b r i e l M . B e d d i n g f i e l d -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] FireFox Search Extentions don't work
I have firefox 1.0 installed. When I go to the search bar and tell it to install other extensions it says it did it succesfully but they never show up. Any ideas. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list