[lace-chat] broiler
So is your grill our griddle? In message 560963595.474550.1365361108174.javamail.r...@cl04-host04.dlls.pa.frontie rnet.net, lacel...@frontier.com writes We use 'grill' for cooking on a rack over heat (like an outdoor barbecue) and sometimes on a frying surface that has raised ridges to give the effect of cooking on a rack (commercial restaurant version). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] happy Birthday
Who says we have to count in base 10? Change to base 14 and you will only be 50! In message BF4534F0471B402FA353B97BF40F2055@SuePC, Sue su...@talktalk.net writes Knock the 0 off and be 7 again or do what I do, act your shoe size not the actual age. Mine, this year (May) will have a horrid double number (the one you are avoiding mentioning, Jean!!) -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] Tatting question
First half of the stitch, loop of thread goes *up* (round over your shuttle hand) and the shuttle goes *under* and over the thread (either of the ring or ball thread if you are doing a chain) supported by your non-shuttle hand. Second half of stitch you catch the shuttle thread with your little finger of the shuttle hand so the loop goes *down*, and the shuttle goes *over* and under the thread held in your non-shuttle hand. Except - Josephine knots where all the stitches are half knots and split rings where you work totally differently... but you'll have got the hang of it before you get to those! As Mom said, it's a knack, and once you've got it, you don't stop to think! In message F57C13C7428746E8A0390FD1986212BF@SuePC, Sue su...@talktalk.net writes When we work bobbin lace we speak in terms of CT which helps a new to lace person keep the right moves in their head. Can I ask if there is a similar chant to guide a new to tatter understand the moves. I know its like a buttonhole stitch, but can never remember which one is first as in over under and outer thread going in which direction. Can someone guide me. I have the lacet publication chat but I would like to be able to get it into my head as well, so I can sing to my self, under over, or whatever the best way would be. I hope you tatters understand what I am getting at. Although I make tentative moves into the world of tatting after 40 years I really want to be able to get it into my head once and for all, so I can take it with me when I want and pick it up without having to start at the very first moves all the time. Sue T To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ --- Text inserted by Panda IS 2011: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://localhost:6083/Panda?ID=pav_48751SPAM=truepath=C:\Documents%20a nd%20Settings\Jane\Local%20Settings\Application%20Data\Panda%20Security\ da%20Internet%20Security%202011\AntiSpam --- -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace-chat] FW: Aged 80 :-)
One from a friend - don't think this one has done the rounds yet! In message col113-w33391a1868376c9bdc1dcfef...@phx.gbl, Louise writes Subject: Aged 80 The local news station was interviewing an 80-year-old lady because she had just married for the fourth time. The interviewer asked her questions about her life, about what it felt like to be marrying again at 80, and then about her new husband's occupation. He's a funeral director, she answered. Interesting, the newsman thought. He then asked her if she wouldn't mind telling him a little about her first three husbands and what they did for a living. She paused for a few moments, needing time to reflect on all those years. After a short time, a smile came to her face and she answered proudly, explaining that she had first married a banker when she was in her early 20's, then a circus ringmaster when in her 40's, then a preacher when in her 60's, and now in her 80's, the funeral director. The interviewer looked at her, quite astonished, and asked why she had married four men with such diverse careers. She smiled and patiently explained, I married one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, and four to go. (Oh, just be quiet and send it on). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace-chat] Borrowing film and card
Whatever, they needed my double sided sellotape, too! In message 001201cd1664$70b6c7e0$522457a0$@co.uk, Sue 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk writes Perhaps it's got something to do with my missing red leather glove that I put on the table as a pair but there was only one in the morning What can they be making Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] The Lace Guild - new Facebook page
I hope you will all forgive me for cross posting, but I thought you might all like to know that The Lace Guild now has a Facebook page. If anyone has photographs of lace they have made from any of the patterns in the Guild's magazine, Lace, please do post them to the page, stating which issue and page the pattern was on, and the designer's name. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace-chat] photocopying
One lace fair I went to, a friend was looking at a pattern and I was looking at another and she said we should buy one each and photocopy them. They were only 50p. I bought both. This has been a problem for many years - likewise with magazines published by the larger guilds and societies, you hear we don't need to subscribe, our group gets it without maybe realising (or caring!) that in the UK at least they are breaking the law by copying patterns without permission from the publisher/author. As we have said many times, if everyone did that then membership could be as low as one per group and organisations would not be able to survive. Please do not share Guild/Society magazines in this way. Whilst I was teaching I designed my own patterns for my lot to use - and discouraged photocopying - if they wanted to use a photocopy of a pattern then they were expected to buy a copy of the book it came from. This was done so that they didn't have to trace, or prick through, the pages of the book (which was our only option in the days before cheap photocopiers). The dilemma now is what to do with the photocopies after a lacemaker has died and the family have passed on all her lace equipment, books, etc to a group to sell on. Do the group sell the photocopies along with the rest of the things, or do they destroy them? Theoretically they should be destroyed, but in practice? - this is possibly what happened where the copy of Lynn's pattern was concerned? For those who took a (free) copy of the Stocking Pattern from The Lace Guild's stand at Cranmore on Saturday it IS OK to photocopy and pass this pattern on - I designed and printed these patterns of a tape stocking outline (at no cost to the Guild) with the aim that it may generate some patterns for our Young Lacemaker magazine, and as long as any patterns resulting from its use are sent in, please do copy and pass it on! Therefore in this case you have the designer's permission to copy - which is necessary even though the pattern was given, not sold! All other patterns, magazines and publications from The Lace Guild are subject to copyright law. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Knitting machines
In message 1290942029.12242.1314893654127.javamail.r...@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail. comcast.net, sueba...@comcast.net writes Does anyone on the list want a knitting machine (or two)? My mum has just died, and Dad is looking for someone to take them. You would need to be prepared to come to Wallasey, Cheshire to collect them. There is a Catholic charity - based in Walsall, that collects free from anywhere in the UK which sends reconditioned sewing and knitting machines, etc., out to Malawi to encourage new business ventures - training people how to use them, etc - this is what we did with Mom's knitting machine. See the donate page on http://www.krizevac.org -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] :-) Fw: Benefits of green tea
One my brother sent me... don't think we've seen this one before The Benefits Of Green Tea ... A woman goes into the doctor's all bruised and beaten up pretty badly. The Doctor says, My god .. what happened? The Woman replied, Doctor, I don't know what to do. Every time my husband comes home after a few beers he beats me up. The Doctor says, Well, I have a really good remedy for that. When your husband comes home drunk, just make a cup of green tea, take a sip and start swirling it in your mouth. Don't drink it, just swirl it around and around for a while. Two weeks later she comes back to the doctor and looks all healthy and fresh again. The woman says, Doctor, that green tea thing is brilliant! Every time my husband comes home drunk, I sip and swirl repeatedly with green tea and he never touches me now. The Doctor replied, Excellent ... so now you can see why keeping your mouth shut is such a good idea!!! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] Buffalo wings and spicy foods
In message d6abc1018f02604f80f0e0582acb26e902f97...@mbx2-node2.essex.ac.uk, Gray, Alison J ag...@essex.ac.uk writes Liz I couldn't agree more, both DD and I are allergic to all forms of dairy food, and certainly in the UK when eating out desserts are all but impossible. In restaurants they very rarely understand what is actually in the food they are serving up. I tend to have salad rather than chips/veg when I'm out, but I always ask for it without onion or dressing... there have been several places where I've been told we don't dress our salads only to be served a dressed salad... the worst are those where it looks on the surface that the salad isn't dressed, but under the top leaves, there hides the dressing would they really like me to bring the lot back up? With (raw) onion, it is a matter of dislike, so if the slices are large I will occasionally pick it out and pass it to my husband - but finely chopped and the whole lot has to go back. Usually it is a case of the kitchen being on auto-pilot - the worst was the evening at a local pub we use often, our waiter (who ended up very frustrated!) put the order through correctly - we watched him type it in - but between the salad and my steak they got it wrong three times, and I ended up with a free meal! We have in the past, when out with a coeliac friend, had a Beefeater go and get their list of ingredients to check, and others when asked about the presence of nuts (which give me painful mouth ulcers) have been able to check, either with the chef or in one case I'll go and look at the box it came in!!! My other peeve is in restaurants with help-yourself salad bars - where people insist on using the wrong tongs so you end up with beetroot (yuck!) in the cucumber. or mayonnaise from the pasta stuff (they call that salad???) mixed in with the peppers g -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] Fw: Buffalo wings and spicy foods
In message 00d201cb7c26$345e0710$0301a...@acer, Sue hurwitz...@talktalk.net writes Sorry everyone, as Sr Claire says this should have gone to the chat list. Oopsy, ladies. This isn't the chat list. Sr. Claire That's what comes of trying to email and pack at the same time! I'll be away for the next week - at the railway over the weekend (hopefully getting down to Aberystwyth to see the lace exhibition on Saturday) and then on a First Aid at Work Course that the neighbouring (preserved) railway are holding - we get invited to join them for this, so I've a week staying in their hostel at Minffordd, North Wales. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
[lace-chat] Ebay oddity
In message 4bc74434.1000...@krafters.net, Ruth Rocker roxw...@krafters.net writes This item is listed as lacemaking equipment, but how?? http://tinyurl.com/y5dwym5 They are the bobbins used in lace machines - can't remember which of the machines uses them, but not the Barmen machine, might be the Raschelle (?sp). We were shown how they are threaded when we went to the (now long gone) Lace Centre in Nottingham some years ago. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Snapshot of my life
In message 4bc5d08f.10...@comcast.net, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net writes I remember those too! The writng was always bluish, and we did huff the fumes!! But the machine we printed our newsletters on was something more modern. It actually had black ink. The drum of the machine had a pad that was saturated (from within) with a thick ink. The stencil was clipped onto the machine and then the drum was rotated several times to prime it. After a couple of rotations, the backing paper was peeled off, and the printing began. It was possible to save a stencil by re-applying the backing to the stencil before removing it. I used both types whilst working in a hospital - one was made by, and known as, a Roneo, and the other which had the stencils was made by and known as the Gestetner. For the Roneo you typed the text against a coated paper so that a reverse image was formed (rather like using carbon paper - remember that?!!) and it was placed onto the roller so that the spirit (they were also known as spirit duplicators) dissolved some of the ?ink, which was transferred onto the papers passed through the machine to make the copies. I think I've still got a bottle of stencil correction fluid (orangey-red in colour, with a consistency like nail varnish) somewhere The Gestetner we had was ancient (this was in the late 1970s) and Mom ended up making me a nylon overall to put on when I had any copying to do, as it nearly always needed re-inking, and the ink went everywhere! My first acquaintance with proper photocopiers - again, a spirit based process onto special paper - came with my next job, with the BBC. During that time, around 1978/9, I can remember fax machines first being introduced, and wondering what actual use they could possibly be, as we already had telex for quick messages and anything that needed a diagram could be posted! Now even they are old hat! Would you believe that 30 odd years ago, I told my then boyfriend (a systems analyst) that I had no intention whatsoever of having anything to do with computers! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] RE: snapshot of my life
In message 01cadc10$2ab7b370$80271a...@com, Helen Bell he...@access-experts.com writes Thank you Jane, you just replugged the hole with the name in my memory - the Roneo :-) Only now with Jean mentioning Banda, I'm wondering whether the Roneo at the hospital was another type of stencil machine - whichever, it's method of inking was different to the Gestetner, and I didn't need to wear an overall to use it! I can remember using pencil then dip-pen at junior school (age 7-11), and having a fountain pen at Grammar School - the first I had was the lever type that we kept our own bottle of ink for, then we moved onto cartridge pens as they came into fashion. As with others, biro was only allowed for rough notes. My shorthand pen (bought when I went to college) requires you to dip the nib into the bottle, and then turn the section at the other end of the barrel to draw the ink up, not sure how that works. My main problem was that I held the pen on a slant, and had to have special nibs otherwise they didn't last long! Mom had an old Barlock typewriter, dating back to the 1920s, that we used at home. For my 18th birthday, she and Dad bought me an Imperial portable manual typewriter (I've still got it!) and eventually I bought a Smith Corona electronic. After years of working with electric typewriters, the salesman tried to sell me a Brother machine that was on special offer - it's output speed was about one word a month, there was no way I was going to buy that, it would have driven me bananas! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Recycling orts
In message 85d96628cf694664a5684ddb18eaf...@yourb45be3bb8c, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk writes When we lived in the countryside, in the spring, we used to see birds collecting bits of fleece which were caught on wire fencing when the sheep rubbed against the fence, and nests found after the birds had flown at the end of the breeding season were frequently lined with fleece. How do we tell the birds not to do that? :-D Wouldn't that be different in that the wool collected by the birds in this way would still have its natural oils, and be relatively waterproof as well as soft and warm for the chicks? We used to leave the fur brushed from the cats out for the birds to use - before Chloe, who no way will let you brush her! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Quirky things in Estonia
In message lo6r851af7b8g2ov6m04atqi2dho9k8...@4ax.com, Steph Peters stepha...@sandbenders.demon.co.uk writes The coffee shop sells not only coffee and coffee makers, but also other household items like crockery and bed linen, and then a few clothing items which change over time but always seem to include a selection of bras! Could they be getting confused over their cup sizes??! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Re: Name of cotton fabric?
In message aa1cdf110624db9cf5077d1a67646...@rockbridge.net, Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net writes Pique? We called it pika, in Polish and it was quite popular when I was a little girl. But, of course, what was popular in Poland didn't, necessarily, translate into Brit scene... According to Tootal, Pique has weft backing threads - the fabric sample which illustrates this is of Bedford Cord, in which warp threads are tightly crammed, and formed into the characteristic chords by coarser additional backing threads in the warp. (Some Notes on Textile Manufacture prepared by Tootal Broadhurst Lee Company Ltd, January 1955) Seersucker did leap to mind, but it always appeared square rather than round or oval in the bumps. I wondered about a dobby weave (though that I had for my wedding wasn't blistered) or one of the spotted fabrics - poplin or voile. Jean's description makes it sound as if it was woven as a partial double cloth, at least, to give the blister effect. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Are you new to lace or was it passed on?
with maybe a notice in a local shop isn't going to attract many, if any at all! Demonstrating is fun - and great motivation for those who have only just learnt the basics who get told many times during the day how clever they are! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] sky blue pink
In message e17c004f031249f7ad69d0a717b5d...@study, Sue Babbs sueba...@comcast.net writes And from Cheshire, it was sky blue pink with a finny haddy border. I never asked but assumed that finny haddy stood for Finnan haddock, but maybe not! (At least it would still be a yellow border!) Mom always used sky-blue pink as it was, but also ginger-pink with black spots - like me, she was born in Birmingham - though her family came from Herefordshire and Wiltshire. I'm not sure I ever heard my father use either - he and his forebears were born in Stamford, Lincs. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Rear ends
In message 628eaf0821044509a39edc6ce0d2b...@yourvk87i6sqq9, Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.com writes I think most of our rear ends spread a bit due to sitting making lace!! :)) (That is the good excuse, anyway!!) (Nothing to do with chocolate at all!!! :)) ) Mine is small, - due to most of it slipping around to the front as a paunch :(( I blame the kids for that - though I wish I'd been told to do post-natal exercises after my last pregnancy ended in miscarriage at 3 months (fifteen years ago)! Off to spend the day sitting down making lace - demonstrating at a papercraft show in Doncaster (The Dome, if anyone is in the area) today, so should be able to get a bit more of my rectangular mat done! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Re: Dangerous chocolate cake recipe
Did anyone work out the timings for non-industrial strength microwaves? Some of us are still on 650w! (and I think the majority in the family are no higher than 800-850w). In message 614889.84113...@web26707.mail.ukl.yahoo.com, Helen Tucker helen9...@yahoo.co.uk writes Assuming that is the one that was going around all the Guiders' mailing lists a few months ago, you need to halve the recipe if you want to make it in a normal mug. However, if you have a pyrex pint jug it a) fits perfectly and b) is an amazing base for a Dalek cake! Helen whose next project is sewing all the badges on my camp blanket before I start looking at lace again. --- On Thu, 2/4/09, David in Ballarat d.collye...@aapt.net.au wrote: -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] New baby
Just to say I've been quiet because I've been at my daughter's - her second child, a boy (Layton Andrew Bates) was born a week early on Friday night (16th January) at 11.15pm. 8lb 8.5oz. Home delivery assisted by ambulance crew, midwife arrived in time to cut the cord - Layton decided not to hang around, so it was less than a 3 hour labour and following instructions from the hospital to wait a bit longer (an hour before he was born - it takes half an hour to get there!) she didn't have time to get there! DH and I arrived about 15 minutes before the birth. No complications and both are doing well - his big sister (Crystal) is two years old today. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] New baby
In message 43bc20aa62d71ef988247949d185e...@rockbridge.net, Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net writes (Am I the only one who got four copies of this message?) No, I got 4 copies also; Jane must be super happy with the baby and no wonder :) Congratulations, Jane! Thanks - he is settling in well, and thankfully will take a bottle (his sister, who is 2 today, wouldn't - Jenny had no option but to breast feed her until she was about a year old and was dreading the same happening again!). Think I'd rather have him than his mother though - she was a Wednesday's Child (full of woe) and still is!!! I think I can explain the multi-message problem - I sent it just before we went out today (by which time it was still in the outbox) but last night had attempted to email a photo to my sister and brother. Large file, despite being zipped, refused to co-operate and so when I sent the message to the list it was in transit and couldn't be stopped. So I turned the monitor off and left it to it. Got home to find that it had finally gone, but four copies of the message I sent to the list in my chat folder. I suspect it took the mail program several attempts to send the larger file, and this one got caught up in the mayhem. Apologies to all for appearing to be over-enthusiastic - it wasn't me, it was the gremlin in the computer - honest! Have now uploaded the photos to an album (which also wouldn't co-operate at 1am) so won't need to send any more large emails to relatives. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Invading hordes...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes If your elderly cat can tolerate mice, surely she could tolerate a kitten? Might enjoy the company. Another thought is that the old cat might enjoy teaching the youngster to hunt (a skill usually passed from queen to kitten, but often lacking in a cat if its parents were brought up indoors, or if it was taken from the queen too early), while at the same time being able to sit back and watch the youngster do the energetic bit! Of course, if the old lady has been a solitary cat all her life it would be different, but the cat I first knew (Tinkerbell), who lived to days off her 21st birthday, had no problems with Prudence's kittens who were born in May 1972, the year she died. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] tapioca pudding and other desserts
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David in Ballarat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I think the Brits are the same as us. However, for us a pudding must be hot and baked. We can still say What's for dessert? I think it is a matter of dialect in England. Our family have always called it pudding, regardless of being hot or cold. Pudding as part of the name implies hot, just as Sundae suggests ice-cream (though we have one chain of restaurants at the moment that has a non ice-cream sundae on its menu). Dessert in terms of the name of the course is a word we see more on restaurant menus, and puds are also referred to as sweets. It used to be that after the main course in certain restaurants, the sweet trolley would be brought round - these would be cold, though. However, we all use dessert spoons to eat them with, no matter what we call them! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Locomotive
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yes, I know, but aren't the electric and diesel ones boring! Actually, I think my inherent dislike of diesel locos is probably half related to Dad's tales of his track laying days - after he came out of the army at the end of WW2, he worked for a time laying track on and around the East Coast Main Line - Peterborough, Oundle, etc (not far from where his step-grandfather had been signalman at Greatford Gate Box, sadly now just an automatic barrier as the box and cottage, one either side of the road were demolished) - Jacqui in Stamford (where Dad and my siblings were born) will probably know where I mean, but anyone travelling from London to York by train will most likely use this route. He related the tales of watching Mallard and Flying Scotsman passing by, and how dirty he thought the diesels were when they came in. By the time I was born in the mid 50s he was working for Metropolitan Cammel in Birmingham, as a sheet metal worker building railway carriages. Is it really surprising that I'm interested in trains!!! Add to that that frequently the diesel and diesel electrics are late running, whereas you go on a steam charter and arrive early (unless your running time is delayed by having to wait for a service train to pass!). Once, going over to Norfolk early on a Saturday, we were delayed at Peterborough due to the breaks on one of the carriages running hot... with a fair proportion of the blokes in the carriage being railway enthusiasts (I think they were going to Bressingham) within a few minutes we had decided that it would have been far better in the days of steam, they would have got the station pilot out and we wouldn't have had such a delay! To me locomotive is the romantic steam train, which brings back memories of childhood family outings. The electric and diesel ones are just boring 'engines' which just transport me from place to place. The only real advantage is that you can sit with a suitable height table and travel pillow and make lace whilst you travel! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Origin of a word
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes locomotive (a steam train) You can also have diesel and electric locomotives, Jean - locomotive refers to the engine, not the fuel that powers it! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: earthquake
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Then on the tv they showed somewhere in Norfolk. The newspaper report had a tag saying Manchester so I had assumed it was in the north. How much area of the country was affected? Janice From what my daughter picked up from Radio 1 this morning, the epicentre was supposed to have been near Market Rasen, which is Lincolnshire rather than Norfolk. We felt it here in Tamworth - I was half asleep on the settee at the time, so for the first time when one has hit, downstairs, and it actually felt as if the ground under the house moved one way then the other. Spitzy (the cat we inherited from my parents) and I looked at each other, she with a what on earth was that look on her face, it took a while for her then to go back to sleep, I don't think she trusted things for a while! It was apparently felt as far away as Wales. The only person reported to have been injured, according to the news, was in Barnsley in Yorkshire, where a chimney fell in and the poor lad/bloke ended up with a broken pelvis from masonry landing on him (his father, on the Radio 4 news, said he needed to have an operation this morning for it - probably done by now.) Given that TV reporters sometimes assume that no-one has an idea of UK geography (including here!) I suppose if they say Norfolk and Manchester then they assume those are places that people may have heard of and will know where they are talking about! Apart from that, though, they may have picked up a report from the BBC's regional TV centre in Manchester - I think there is only radio in Leeds, so it would likely be the nearest. Market Rasen is on the Norfolk side of Lincolnshire, if you draw a line on a map between Grimsby (on the coast) and Lincoln it is about half way. -- Jane Partridge (who used, many years ago, to work for the BBC!) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Champagne for one
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jennifer Audsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Oh, Patricia in Wales, you've given me a good laugh! and I am sipping the last of my one person bottle of champaigne. A one-person bottle? Aren't the usual 750ml bottles for one person? Jen, how am I supposed to drink my cough stuff (in a sherry glass) with you making me fall off my perch like that (cough, cough, giggle, splutter)? DD2, Hannah, believes the 750ml bottles are one person, too - especially as neither DH or I particularly like the stuff! We went out for dinner on Christmas Day (to a fairly local Harvester restaurant - we started going out about three years ago, mainly because then I don't have to spend the morning cooking and DH doesn't have to spend the afternoon washing up!) and then to DD1's for the afternoon and evening - it was GD1's first Christmas and it looks as if she might get the hang of unwrapping presents by the time her birthday comes round next month! She'd had lots of noisy toys, and clothes, and was determined to stay awake as long as possible. I'm doing my normal trick, going down with a cold whilst I haven't got to go to work (it was always the same at school, ill during the holidays!). Lace related presents were a pair of bobbins and one of those circular Moravia (?) brooches that you hang lace on the bars across the centre. Haven't got any lace done, but at least I can now get to my pillow (for those on the Gazette forum, we found the living room carpet on Christmas Eve)! I can't say whether it was definitely Demon (our ISP) with problems yesterday - we didn't have time to put the computer on! But, with the news reports of all the sales, and umpteen million spent in on-line shopping sprees, I'm amazed the lot didn't grind to a halt! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: MORE Childhood Rhymes Chants
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David in Ballarat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I found this fascinating, for the game you describe is virtually the same as what we knew as Drop the hanky and I'm sure we had a chant for that too, but it wasn't yours and I can't for the life of me remember it now. We used I wrote a letter to my love And on the way I dropped it Somebody must have picked it up And put it in their pocket Thief, thief, drop it, Thief, thief, drop it... at which point the hankie was dropped behind the new it and the rhyme was sung again. Oranges and Lemons, and In and Out the Scottish Bluebells are two I remember from Brownies (many years ago!). Skipping at junior school used to be Matthew, Mark, Luke John Next one in, follow on. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: IOLI Membership Message/e-mail list
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes With the guild-membership type of subscription, if you happen to join the organization close to the end of its subscription year, you get 4 issues, of which 3 are way out of date and may not be of interest. And, to rub the salt into the wounds... as soon as you get your first *current* issue, you also get a renewal slip for the new year. Not with all Guilds - some, once past the third issue, will hold new subscriptions until the new year, unless specifically requested otherwise. It is also (correctly) strongly recommended from the powers- that-be that those wishing to take out memberships late in the year are made to understand that the renewal date is in xxx month, so that they know they will be asked for a further subscription then. (This is from spending several years demonstrating at a national needlework show in March for a certain organisation that has renewal in July...) Do lace patterns and articles (other than forthcoming events and lace days) really go out of date that quickly? I think if *all* of the information in the issues is that quickly out of date, I would think twice about it being worth a subscription in the first place. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Geese
This was posted to the list quite some time ago by Helen Clarke; November 14th 2000, to be precise. I think there are one or two on the list who need the encouragement, so I'm re-posting it. Laurie and the editorial team obviously need the help of the IOLI flock, and I'm sure there are far more than two geese flying with Lynn and her daughter at the moment --Author Unknown This fall, when you see geese heading south for the winter flying in a V formation, you might consider what science has discovered about why they fly that way. As each bird flaps its wings, it creates an uplift for the bird immediately following. By flying in a V formation, the whole flock adds at least 71 percent greater flying range than if each bird flew on its own. People who share a common direction and sense of community can get where they are going more quickly and easily, because they are travelling on the thrust of one another. When a goose falls out of formation, it suddenly feels the drag and resistance of trying to go it alone - and quickly gets back into formation to take advantage of the lifting power of the bird in front. If we have as much sense as a goose, we will stay in formation with those people who are headed the same way we are. When the head goose gets tired, it rotates back in the wing and another goose flies point. It is sensible to take turns doing demanding jobs, whether with people or with geese flying south. Geese honk from behind to encourage those up front to keep up their speed. What message do we give when we honk from behind? Finally - and this is important - when a goose gets sick or is wounded by gunshot, and falls out of formation, two other geese fall out with that goose and follow it down to lend help and protection. They stay with the fallen goose until it is able to fly or until it dies; and only then do they launch out on their own, or with another formation to catch up with their own group. If we have the sense of a goose, we will stand by each other like that. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Altoid tins
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes and the sour candies in a smaller round friction-top tin that pops open when pressed on a particular spot. Sounds like the tins that Sherley's put their heart shaped cat sweets (Sweethearts) in - I'm not sure if they are still making them, I got some at the NEC cat show a year or so back. Tigger can, if he puts his mind to it, open the tin himself, fortunately most of the time he forgets the sequence of push down with paw then use teeth at side of tin, and ends up throwing the tin around the place by trying to pick up the edge of the lid with a claw. The hearts are gone, we use the tin for other cat treats now - it is a little more cat-resistant than the normal bag they are packed in! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Do Not Call
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susan Reishus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In the US, it took my calls from constant to nothing. From the calls we've had recently, coming up on the phone as International for the incoming number, and always from someone with an American accent, invariably asking about loans and mortgage transfers (we don't want one and haven't got a mortgage to transfer), I think they have given up on the US and started bugging the UK instead. Being foreign, they don't have to comply with our TPS listing (which has stopped all the annoying UK based calls) as far as I can see. Eventually, after I complained to the caller that they were harassing me, they gave up - but this was after several calls when they had been asked to stop calling us. Last weekend (Friday/Saturday) we had seven calls from the same number - obviously a call centre - with the system giving them barely enough time to ask to speak to... before it hung up - something to do with grants, but heaven knows what for - they wouldn't answer my question as to who was calling, and being a call centre, were always engaged if you tried to ring back (the number did come up on the phone, and was somewhere in Manchester) to find out who they were. We haven't heard from them since, though, so they must have given up. At least with caller display on the phone you have the choice to ignore numbers you don't know, if it is important they'll leave a message. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Pease pudding
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes You'd be hard pressed to find a butcher's shop in many towns now. We must be lucky here in Tamworth, then, there are three general butchers that I can think of straight off in the town centre, and that's not counting the pork butcher or the very good one in the Co-op supermarket. Pity we lost the fishmonger, but we do have a good cheese shop. Most of our supermarkets (we have too many of those) are on the out-of-town shopping area, so unless you drive it is a case of relying on the small town centre shops. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] talking about cake....
A couple of days ago, DD2 (DD1, other half and GD1 having finally moved into their own house) decided to make a chocolate cake (she always turns out a very nice chocolate cake, and wanted to impress her boyfriend - the twit reckoned she couldn't cook!). However, it turned out that we hadn't got much in the way of drinking chocolate (cocoa powder) in the house, so she added what was left, a sachet of caramel drinking chocolate (think it was a Galaxy one, that no-one was going to drink) and a miniature bottle of Baileys to a standard 4oz Victoria Sponge recipe (4oz self raising flour less the weight of the drinking chocolate, 4oz sugar, 4oz margarine and 2 eggs). Her chocolate cakes are good... this turned out, hm. very moreish :-). Thanks to the Baileys, it has stayed moist, too! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Ethical Dilemna Resolved
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Do you think I'd be within my rights if I screamed bloody murder, copyright infringement and rotten ethics, if I saw a piece, made on my pattern, being sold? Well, as was said earlier, once you have given something to somebody (no matter where you got it from), you have no control over what that person does with it, it is theirs to sell if they wish. Would you rather, Tamara, see a piece of lace, made to your pattern, in the ownership of someone who appreciates it (having bought it off someone else, maybe - you would have to want it to pay for it, after all) or would you rather it had to be destroyed when the person it was given to no longer wanted it, because they couldn't sell it? Think of all the lace that gets passed in auction houses, being sold because the previous owner died; how many of us would be deprived of being able to study the lace in major collections if the lace, being made to someone else's pattern (few of the cottage workers were designers!), couldn't be sold, and thus the only alternative would be to destroy it? In most copyright issues, whether a copy is given or sold is irrelevant, it is making the copy that breaks the copyright. We have already had lengthy discussion as to whether making the lace (ie the intended use of the pattern) is breaking copyright of the book or not. Therefore, if passing on the lace (giving or selling) is a breach, the only alternative if you don't want to keep it is to destroy. There is a huge difference here, though, between making lace, giving it to someone who then disposes of it in whatever way, and making lace by the bucket load from someone's pattern and selling it to make money for oneself. It is the latter that most designers at least want the credit of the design for, if not royalties. Hence the reason in that case why if you intend to produce to sell, you should ask permission first. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Ruddy and so forth...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Susan Reishus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I was taken aback at the Harry Potter movies and the swear words used, though I have British ancestry so was aware of what they implied. On the other hand, once you know what the words actually mean, it can get quite hysterical listening to the usage the (mostly) teenagers (who either don't know or don't want to know) put them to - and applying their literal meaning! In this house, swearing is referred to as engineering terminology - and where DH is concerned, the milder the word, the more seriously he has hurt himself! I think swear words are much more common everywhere, and being of a middle age, and having previously been proper most of my life, have taken to using a word or two, as saying, I am very upset doesn't quite measure to a well chosen expletive or two, that conveys it succinctly. I think that some of the rules have more to do with man's laws and fear, than Divine Laws. smile I think that it is likely that the Victorian era (if not Cromwell) turned us all a bit prudish - after all, Chaucer had no problem with using rough language in The Canterbury Tales! As for ruddy, it more or less rhymes with bloody, which was taken to be an absolute no-no when I was younger (on a par with the f word now). Likewise sugar in place of bugger - it is not so much the word used, as the meaning put behind it, after all, sod is a lump of muddy grass! As Tamara said, we all kerbed our tongues when we had young children learning to talk - only to find that they picked up far worse when they went to school. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Height
I used to be 5'2 in my teens - by the time I had my first daughter age 28 it was down to 5'1 3/4, and I think I lost another quarter of an inch by the time I had Hannah at 31! The main problems with shopping for me are 1. When you need something off the top shelf, DH has done a disappearing act (he's been glued to your side up to that point). and 2. The magazines I read are always on the top shelf, out of the way (and I'm talking steam railway magazines, not the usual top shelf ones!). I did once point out to the staff of one of the larger chains of newsagents I was in how ridiculous it was that they put the pregnancy/mother and baby magazines on the bottom shelf - not exactly easy to reach in that condition a few weeks later, and they had moved, to the top shelf! Unfortunately the branch staff can't do much about it, it is corporate policy that dictates what goes where, and the powers that be obviously don't think about the logistics from the shopper's angle, just that the ones they expect to sell more of get easy to reach position and to h*ll with everyone else! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Wallpaper borders
Since September, we have been working to get the house that my eldest daughter and her fiancé have bought habitable - it had the normal problems of anything built in 1850 or so - needing new damp proof course, various plastering, rewiring, etc - and we are now at the stage of decorating (with the hope of having them in before Christmas, and definitely before their daughter is born in January). Jenny wants a leopard skin print border to go round the living room walls - and so far the nearest she has found is a wallpaper (full width) on a US website. The room is going magnolia and chocolate, so it needs to be the brown version of the print rather than the silver. Standard rolls of border paper (which are about 4 inches or so in width rather than the 21 inch width of a roll of wallpaper) are 5m in length - so as the room is approximately a 13ft square she will probably need 3 rolls, possibly 4. The specialist wallpaper shops that we in Tamworth (UK) had some years ago are now long gone, and there is nothing of this kind in the shops we do have (BQ, Co-op, Focus, etc). Has anyone seen any anywhere else? -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] names
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] omputer, Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The short copy of the birth certificate is usually the one used by the parents of adopted children - From what I remember of DH registering our two daughters, the short certificate was free (ie at initial registration) - he had to pay for the full certificate. This may have been the case over the years - my grandfather's original certificate (1886), which we still have, is a short one. I bought a short copy of my (full) certificate when I needed to send a certificate away (for a passport application I think) - so that the full certificate stayed in my possession. It shows name, sex, date and place of birth (registration district and sub district), and the date and signature of the registrar when it was produced. As yet, I haven't needed to request a copy of a marriage certificate where the marriage has subsequently ended in divorce. (With the exception of my brother, in the section of our family that I am researching, we have all held on to our spouses). If anyone has, can you settle a point of curiosity? When (at work) we send off divorce papers to the Court for issue, the marriage certificate is sent to the Court and unless the divorce is stopped, the Court keep hold of it. (Which confuses an awful lot of people who think they will get it back). Is it still possible to get a copy of the certificate and is the register noted in any way to show that a divorce has taken place? -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] First, Given or Christian Names
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When a baby is born it is 'given' a first, and maybe a second or more names. That names or names may or may not subsequently be used in Christian baptism, in which case they become Christian names. I haven't checked to see if it is still the case, but on my birth certificate there is a space where a forename may be added to the registered name on production of a baptismal certificate or certificate of naming within 12 months of the registration. If the full name given at Christian baptism is the one used at registration, then another forename cannot be added to the registered name later. It also says that if you apply for a full copy of the certificate, the name as first registered is shown (in column 2) as well as that added later (in column 10 - this one supersedes the first), but if you apply for a short certificate only the later name is shown. I can't say I've ever seen a certificate where a name has been added, though. Mistakes do happen when copies are produced - on the copy I have of my great parents' marriage certificate, the profession of the bride's father is shown as waitress! The bride in question is the one we are having trouble tracing back - Mary Ann Doust, nee Walker, aged 55 in 1901, her father was James Walker. On the census she is shown as being born in Birmingham, but so far we haven't been able to sort her from the many Mary Walkers in Birmingham at that time - possibly her father had another Christian name! I have her to thank for my temper - when her husband (my great grandfather, John Banner Doust) died in 1899, she took over the running of the pub they owned, but the staff left saying they did not wish to work for a woman, and by the 1901 census she had obviously given up and moved on to another address. I'm off to Worcester again tomorrow, to find out a bit more of the (Bromsgrove) Banner family - I have the sampler which Harriet Banner, John's mother, worked as a child in 1824. (She was daughter of Joseph Banner, a nailer in Bromsgrove - I suspect the hand made nails in the frame are of his making). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Names Titles
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thurlow Weed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes But now I'm curious: the tendency in the US of children addressing elders by their first name; while I abhor it, I am curious to know if this is the case in other countries as well. Is this a US phenomenon, or does it exist elsewhere? It possibly spread to England from the US, but when I was a Guide Guider, (the English equivalent to a Girl Scout leader) I would often find the girls addressing me as Miss (by which they were used to addressing their school teachers) once we got past the Guiding change from being Captain and Lieutenant (I was the latter) to being Guider and Assistant Guider - by which time I was married, but still only about 10-12 years older than the girls. My usual retort was that I wasn't a Miss, I was a Mrs, and my name was Jane - which is what I preferred them to call me. This was from the early 1980s through to when I finished in 1994. Like you, as a child, I was taught to address adults by their formal name - title and surname. My daughters address me as Mom, I insisted that only their true aunts and uncles were addressed as such, and where my nieces and nephew are concerned, I don't expect them to use the title aunt now they are adults. (They still do, occasionally, though!). What does annoy me more is when someone addresses me by my full name (particularly in the salutation to a letter, often a bulk mailed circular) with or without title - it should be either first name only (if they know me well, which this ilk don't) or by my formal name of Mrs Partridge. In the address line on the envelope, Mrs Jane Partridge is correct - this distinguishes me from my daughter, Miss Jenny Partridge (though we are JM and JL respectively, the dropping of the title and second initial can cause confusion as to who opens the envelope!). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Real Newspaper Ads
In message 060720060718.5082.44867DD800039EA013DA22092246279D0A0B07 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes REAL NEWSPAPER ADS COWS, CALVES: NEVER BRED. Also 1 gay bull for sale. Yesterday being our silver wedding anniversary, I insisted DH took a day off (nearly worked!) and we went to the Talyllyn Railway in Wales - coming back we took a very scenic route, and passed one farm where there was a sign on the gate proclaiming Blonde Bulls for Sale - presumably this refers to the coat colouring, but after all the blonde jokes..! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] As I've Matured............
Don't think I can remember this one on the list before, my *eighteen year old* daughter has forwarded it to me she thinks she has matured Unfortunately, there was no credit to the original source. As I've Matured... I've learned that you cannot make someone love you. All you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in... I've learned that one good turn gets most of the blankets. I've learned that no matter how much I care, some people are just jackasses. I've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and it only takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy it. I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. I've learned that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are more screwed up than you think. I've learned that depression is merely anger without enthusiasm. I've learned that it is not what you wear; it is how you take it off. I've learned to not sweat the petty things, and not pet the sweaty things. I've learned that ex's are like fungus, and keep coming back. I've learned age is a very high price to pay for maturity. I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it. I've learned that we are responsible for what we do, unless we are celebrities. I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. I've learned that 99% of the time when something isn't working in your house, one of your kids did it I've learned that there is a fine line between genius and insanity. I've learned that the people you care for most in life are taken from you too soon and all the less important ones just never go away. And the real pains in the rear are permanent. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] The verb to bags
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Helen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I always used to used bags or bagsy (and knew what dibs was as well). Youngest daughter (now 18) hasn't used bags for a while, but knows what both it and dibs mean - she, as Helen, said they used bagsy all the time. We used bags when I was younger. However, when the two girls were little, if we passed a house or whatever they took a fancy to, it was taxed!. (H reckons I should have typed that in caps - very loud and very annoying - and they would argue over who taxed first!). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bugs and Bags
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Answers to two threads. First bugs: I would also query the parental example theory of terror of bugs (and other creepy crawlies) as I am fairly immune to most and can quite happily pick up in my hands But two of my three children (one son, one daughter) are absolutely terrified of them. Certainly not from me or my ex. My fear of spiders has nothing to do with my parents - being the youngest of four (the others 9, 8 and 6 years older) I picked up my fear from my sister (6 years older), but strangely enough not the fear of moths and fluttery things from my eldest sister. As to the spiders, I found out a few years ago that the reason my sister was afraid of them was that whilst out potato picking (when the family lived in Stamford, Lincs, years before they moved to Birmingham where I was born) my brother had fallen over and cut his knee quite badly on a stone. He told my sister that a spider had bitten him... so she naturally assumed that spiders were to be afraid of. I don't mind tiny money spiders, and can now stand getting close enough to put a clear plastic cup over and use card to collect whatever spider, beetle, etc into it, but only since the girls were born and I had to do so if DH was working. Before that, I can remember standing outside my bedroom crying for twenty minutes before Mom came up to remove two large hairy beasts (spiders) from my bedroom ceiling (I was about 20 at the time!) and one night asking if my neighbour's husband could come and remove one (DH was working a late shift) - only to discover that he was more scared than I was, and he got his wife to come and shift it! Justification came when Mother in Law, watching a programme about spiders that said you could pick the big ones up and they wouldn't bite, later did so, and it promptly bit her! Fortunately we don't have poisonous ones, but the bites can be nasty. You can imagine what my response was to my eldest daughter wanting a tarantula (she isn't scared of spiders - though moths, woodlice, beetles, etc will all get well and truly screamed at). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fw: Useless information
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David in Ballarat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wednesday April 5th of this week, , at two minutes and three seconds after 01:00 In the morning, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06. That won't ever happen again. Well, not till the year 2106, anyway! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: this is your Penny, right?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes My son sent me this today. Some of you may still remember Dr Penny Boston - PS She's still making lace. Strange how people pop up in several places at once - last night one of my students passed on to me the copy of Piecework with the article about Tina the Little Lacemaker - written by Penny - in it, and I was wondering how she was. First thing I did with the magazine was to look down the list of articles, to see how many of the authors' names I recognised - quite a few! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] junk mail
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yesterday when Dh was opening the junk mail, I did as suggested and took out anything from the usual Chase credit card application (that seems to come at least twice a week) that had any reference to me on it and put the remainder in the prepaid envelope to send back to them. Removing your details entirely doesn't really solve the problem, though - OK, it is costing them to get the junk back, but what I have found reduces the junk mail is a) remembering to tick or not tick (according to the wording - not always the same!) the box on anything that might result in junk mail and b) when those who are daft enough to send me anything with a pre-paid envelope do, I cross through in red felt any of my details (so that they are still readable) and write across a request that my details are removed from all mailing lists/databases, and also block out any signature spaces. It seems to work (amazingly, I would have expected it to be binned and never looked at again) in that the junk is getting less, and the latest to get the message were the water company, who seem to think they should waste thousands of trees because we didn't take out their insurance the first time they asked us. Occasionally the Post Office send out questionnaires which are supposed to be Mail Preference based, to ensure you get the mail you want - but these just lead to more junk, not less - there is no option on it for none at all! Trouble is, delivering the junk brings them money, even if it is a hassle for the postmen who then have to go to every house, instead of just the ones with real post. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Cleaning
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes At 08:09 AM 10/26/2005, you wrote: I've been cleaning everything in the house this last month, . I have found:... 1 An ENTIRE CLEAN SHELF The SHELF is what I envy the most of your finds!!! ermm... has anyone seen the floor recently, I seem to have lost it somewhere under his computer magazines :-) -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] RE:Beds lace
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Helen Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes As I understand it, Beds lace gets it's inspiration from the Maltese laces exhibited at the Great Exhibition of 1851. Not only that, but the general designs of the time were very similar. Nowadays we tend to only design for our own discipline, which is why there has been such a cry of what has that to do with? when it comes to the core design module of City and Guilds Creative studies - you do the same design work whether you are studying lacemaking, floristry, sugarcraft, patchwork or any of the other subjects covered. What we forget is that in the 1800s, the general influences governed designs for everything - I found this when I was doing my research project for CG lace part 2 - having noticed the lace-like designs used for ironwork. Architects of the day didn't only design the structure of the house, as they do now, they were responsible for the design of what went in it, too - down to carpets and wallpaper (think Voysey, etc). In the 1850s, the designs in general moved away from the intricate, busy rococo of the former years to more simple, floral designs - and using ironwork in railway architecture as my subject, I found (with the help of a friend) that the design of the canopy supports at Nuneaton Station (Warwickshire, UK; platforms 4 and 5) was of Bedfordshire leaves - and that the building of that section of the station was contemporary with the change in lace design. More of this sort came to UK notice with the exhibition at Crystal Palace in 1862, as well. It just seemed a pity that where the ironwork was involved, just as they perfected the casting techniques, so the Victorian society decided it was vulgar, and so it fell from favour. Fashion had as much to do with the change as anything, and I think Beds lace took off not just because it couldn't be copied (at first) but because it was something totally different to the designs of the previous fifty or so years. We do tend to get blinkered to our subject these days, and forget that lace in the past was influenced not only by other lace designs, but also the designs of other artefacts of the time. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 19/08/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Plastic bobbins
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] an54.freeserve.co.uk writes Hornsbys are still trading in a much smaller way than they were, and I don't know if they are still selling them. I think basic wooden bobbins are now cheaper than plastic - Haven't got the catalogue to hand but I think they are about 15p each unspangled, 65p spangled - definitely cheaper than a (reasonably) local craft centre, who had six spangled Hornsby bobbins on sale for, I think, 3 pounds each! One of my students almost bought them, as they were the white ones which had an appearance of being bone in the display cabinet, but when they got them out it was quite obvious that they were plastic. The cheapest wooden ones I have seen recently were the ones Tim Parker sells, at about 25p each (in quantity - I think it was the pack of 50). Obviously, being a teacher of beginners I keep an eye on the cheaper end of the scale, as it is important they get decent equipment at reasonable cost when setting up, but at the same time I do explain the reason why good, hand turned bobbins are as expensive as they are and the sort of price to expect to pay - it gives them time to save up before being unleashed at the shows (such as Rugby and the NEC!). Maligned as it was, the Dryad kit is proving worthwhile these days as if they can pick it up at a car boot sale for a pound or two, it is worth it for the reasonably decent pillow, pricking card, and do for now pricker. The bobbins, as previously said, need attacking with a file before they are of any use. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 18/08/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: sewing machine for artist daughter
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes At 9:45 PM -0400 8/12/05, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 21:24, Martha Krieg wrote: I've gotten simpler Vikings for my two daughters. [...] Have never tried a Bernina (though the same shop also sold them); As with the others, I doubt very much that Bernina and Husqvarna (Viking) are made by the same people. My Bernina 930 is Swiss, the last of the electronics before they moved on to computerised machines, and I think possibly the ones after that went lightweight, too. Although it weighs a ton (though not quite as heavy as Mom's 730 - which is getting on for 43 years old and still going strong!) it does move on the table if I'm sewing something like curtains, flat out on fast speed (it has a half speed function, too). However, an old mouse mat under it at the arm end solved that one. Mom had a Jones treadle before her Bernina, and because I couldn't afford a Bernina (the one I have now was second hand) my first 20 years of sewing away from Mom's machine were with a Frister Rossman Cub 7. Eventually, the tension on this went temperamental. Also, whilst doing CG Patchwork Quilting at college (using the Bernina machines there, but my FR at home) I found that it didn't like freehand embroidery at all. OK, so it was 20 years old, but a fellow student had one of the same model, only a couple of years old, and she had the same problems. So at one of the major sewing shows (I was demonstrating lace there) I asked the Bernina dealer if they ever had second hand machines for sale, and they replied that they had two in the shop at the time... so I changed machine. I have heard (but have no experience) that Singer have not been so good recently (last 10 years or so?), but it is worth getting an older machine because they, like the Berninas, are workhorses built to last. The main tip when testing machines is to take various bits of your own fabric - different types - to stitch on, because the dealers set the machines up to stitch perfectly on the bit of calico or whatever they present you with, so that problems will rarely show up on that. Also, I would make sure that the dealer knows the machine is intended to be used in several places, not set up in one room and left there - some machines are more temperamental than others where being moved is concerned. (At least then you have the fall back of fit for purpose!). -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 12/08/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Helen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I know that Woolworths in the UK has sold these things at some point, Avital, amazed to find something in Israel that's not in the UK, but my English DH says he's never seen Reese's there Apparently my daughter's American work colleague buys them in Asda - so if we've got them here in Tamworth, the chances are most Asda stores stock them. But then, Asda are now owned by Walmart. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Visiting the UK
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steph Peters Unfortunately your visit is holiday season so there are very few lace days in August. It has just dawned on me that The Lace Guild exhibition at Dudley Museum, West Midlands, will be on for the whole of your visit - with demonstrations on Wednesdays and Saturdays (I'm doing Saturday 6th August). Details should be on the Guild's website. If you are planning to do a trip to The Hollies, it should be possible to do both in one day if need be - there is a local bus service from Birmingham City Centre to Dudley, and also from Dudley to Stourbridge (the two towns are fairly close together). If you want to check bus timetables in the Midlands, the main operator for Birmingham/Coventry/Stourbridge etc is Travel West Midlands (I'm not sure of the url but you should be able to search with that) and a fair proportion of the country appears to be covered by Arriva (www.arrivabus.co.uk) - certainly our bit of the Midlands and Wales, although the unlimited travel for one day or one week are sectioned into areas. There are other smaller operators in most areas, some are cheaper than others, but for the vast majority these days you pay on the bus and need to have the correct change. For me, travelling from Tamworth into Birmingham to see my parents or over to Stourbridge to The Hollies, (it is also available from certain other places outside of the main Centro area to those within it), I find it easier to travel by train, but get a West Midlands Bus Add On - this means that you pay a small amount more for your train ticket (single or return) but you can use it as a travelcard on any of the West Midlands buses in the area on that day and it saves having to dig for change all the time! Some of the larger railway stations (eg those in London, Birmingham New Street, Manchester) have bus travel centres that can provide timetables, advice on routes, fares, etc. I think most of the bus companies in the UK have websites, certainly I was able to find details of the Oxford buses in advance when I visited my cousin last year. Some give details of fares, some route maps, others only timetables or at the very least telephone contact details. For longer journeys, companies like National Express may be your best bet. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Did you know?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malvary J Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes 14. Q. If you were to spell out numbers, how far would you have to go until you would find the letter A? A. One thousand So what about one hundred and one? Or doesn't the *and* count? At least in French you only have to count to 4 just like lace! -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 11/06/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re Bungee Jumping
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Well, what the hell *is* a piñata? Piñata's are very popular here now for children's parties where they are usually filled with sweets. Shirley in Corio Oz. We used to make them for international events (eg Thinking Day) at Guides - basically, a papier mache shape (can't remember if that's spelt right and the spell checker doesn't like this version!) moulded over a balloon, brightly painted, which is filled with sweets and suspended from something high up (or convenient sky-hook!). Children (usually) are then encouraged to hit the Piñata with sticks in order to break it, and release the sweets. Mayhem ensues -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 27/03/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Bungalow (2)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I know people will now write to say that my area of New Jersey is highly atypical of the US. But I like to think it displays the American psyche at its most excessive which can be very illuminating. Devon Maybe, but if Philippa Gregory's books about John Tradescant are reasonably accurate, the early settlers were given large plots and were quite a distance from their neighbours - and the liking for spaciousness sticks through generations? Personally I prefer our set up, the house is a year older than me (built in 1955) and has a back garden roughly 120 ft long x 25 ft wide, front garden is about 18 ft long x 25 ft wide - not all exactly tidy, so lots of birds for the cats and ourselves to watch! The house is about 18 ft wide by 24 ft - divided into kitchen (around 7ft square) dining room and living room (both approx. 11 ft by 12 ft) and hallway with stairs. Upstairs the bathroom (ie bath, sink, toilet) is about the same size as the kitchen, one bedroom at the front of the house is 7ft6ins x 6ft6ins, the other two about 11ft by 10ft. The garage is about 8ft wide by 18 ft long, to one side of the house. (The living room at the front of the house has a bay window, so it is larger than the bedroom above). It may be small, but the smaller the house the less housework needed! It is semi-detached, which means we are joined by one wall to one of our neighbours - the garage then abuts the garage of our other neighbour - useful in security terms, as there is no easy access from front to back. To me, the thought of having a larger washing machine just means more ironing waiting to be done, and the need to use more electricity and water - so higher bills. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 31/01/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: lacemaking and motorcycle riding
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Moved to chat because my response has nothing to do with lace: Don't know if anyone else has this problem, but this came into my lace box because the [lace] was left in the subject line - I filter according to either [lace] or [lace-chat] - these are added to the subject line (almost always) automatically by Arachne's computer. Can I ask if you are moving from one to t'other, you remove the original's tag from the subject line before you post, please? Someone once posted a picture of an elegant tatted motorcycle on the Web; even if it's still there, I no longer remember enough to Google for it. I expect it was Karen Bovard - I have a copy of Rosemarie Peel's photograph of her holding the framed picture. The only 'biking' I have ever done (or wanted to) was when my dad used to pick me up from school on Friday evenings and I rode home on the back of his scooter. I had to have special permission from the school to change from uniform to trousers before leaving school on Friday! Other nights I had to get the bus - dad finished work earlier on a Friday, so could come and meet me. On the other hand, my eldest daughter is motorbike mad and would love one - so far she has had to settle for models, motorbike shaped jewellery, etc. She doesn't make lace, she tried it when she was younger, but got bored very quickly. I've always noticed a correlation between lace and railways - the navvies' wives were said to have been lacemakers to help eke out the family income, and my family has had its fair share of railway workers of one kind or another. My interest is in full sized and steam, but my husband has dreams of a model railway in the garden... Maybe it is just transport, and we all need to get around somehow (I don't drive at all, except driving my teenage daughters up the wall!) As to maths, I'm numerical rather than wordy, but my younger daughter is the mathematician - lace held her interest a little longer than her sister, but I think cross stitch and boyfriends have taken over now. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: the Disaster
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Then what really turned my stomach was last night they were showing adverts on tv for holidays to the Maldives and Indonesia. Did you watch the documentary about the Boscastle floods in April, and the episode of A Seaside Parish the other night, following a Changing Rooms programme where a couple of commercial properties were given a facelift? I did wonder why, when so many homes were destroyed, it was the BB, hotel and bakery that were chosen, but getting these properties up and running quickly brings much needed money into the area - tourists are the main source of livelihood, and in the long term, it is a necessity not to stop tourists returning to the area. In the areas hit by this major flood, it has been reported that many of the hotels have survived, structurally. For their owners to survive, they need to be able to continue in business, and for tourists to turn their backs on them now, cut short the holiday, and leave them empty and without income, is more heartless than accepting that there is little that they personally can do (without the proper training, they can be in the way and cause harm rather than good) other than lie on the beach and continue to contribute to the local economy. In a way, by staying, they are showing moral support, and that in itself can be a big psychological help to the locals. -- Jane Partridge -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 26/12/2004 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] measuring a child's coat
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes But different from oven-mitts -- Ah! but those are oven-gloves (even though they don't have fingers)!! I've always thought of oven mitts being singular, and oven gloves being the ones which are basically a strip of fabric with a padded pocket at each end - my oven mitt is basically a huge padded mitten. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] dentity cards (lace-chat)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Helene Gannac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I am more concerned about the number of people who want to photocopy personal papers. I think it should be a no-no everywhere, you don't know where all those paper files are going to end up one day!! Unfortunately it is now law so some of us have to - I work for a solicitor, and to prevent fraud and money laundering (heaven knows how they think it will work) we, and any other institution handling large sums of cash for purchases/services etc (so car dealers, estate agents, insurance companies, etc also have to) have to ask for identification and proof of address for all new clients. For certain transactions, eg buying or selling property, we have to photocopy the ID to prove that ID has been shown. On the other hand, we do not have a colour photocopier, so any copy taken is black and white, and with the small size of the picture on passports (to say nothing of the fact that that photo could legally be nine years eleven months old!) the photocopy is not always brilliantly clear. I'm all in favour of some kind of ID card - at least it would mean that my daughters would not have to carry their passport with them every time they went out (usually to prove age). I think it is the (? mythical) idea that the card will carry a chip with all sorts of personal information on it that is the stumbling block. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Buying flowers
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Liz In July/August it was pinks but in the winter it's narcissus. Just a thought on this - with Mother in Law being asthmatic (not so bad now as when she was younger), I have to be careful about the flowers sent. I know from personal experience that narcissi and daffodils will give me a very bad headache (Mothers' Day at church used to be a nightmare, with proudly presented posies from two daughters!) - hence the only daffs allowed in the house now are lace ones. Hyacinths have the same effect (absolute horror when I accompanied my eldest daughter to the doctors on Wednesday, and there was a bowl of those on the reception desk!). Do think about whether the recipient can live with the type of flowers you send! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Misting
Misting the clothes to aid ironing is one thing, but using a mouthful of water to do so might not be such a good idea - the water would surely get mixed with some saliva, and saliva contains enzymes, and, if you are not too well, germs - could these, over time, cause problems for the textile and its user? It wouldn't be much good, say, boiling sheets from a sick bed in the copper, and then re-infect them when ironing, would it? -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Eco glass cleans itself with Sun
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A revolutionary kind of glass that needs little cleaning could mean soap and chamois are binned for good. Huh. They could have come up with this before the closing date for Myth or Mystery! I've had another trip over to Coventry this afternoon, still haven't taken it all in, but did go through the folder of non-displayed lace again to know what to look out for if I get to The Hollies (work gets in the way sometimes!) - as long as the pieces can be displayed; the gallery staff said several people have already collected theirs. I still can't decide on a favourite - and really want to wait till I see the others. Apparently the main reason for not hanging items higher was that someone in a wheelchair would not be able to see them clearly. The gallery has gone to some effort to achieve visibility for those in this position - including the height of the caption cards on the walls and cabinets. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Tax Freedom Days
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], W N Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes gallon (using Jean's ratio of 3.75 litres per gallon). Phil used to get me to work out the miles per gallon for the car, (keeping a record gives an indication as to engine performance - especially when a service is due!) and a gallon (eight imperial pints) is 4.54 litres - Jean seems to be a little out in her calculation? -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Lace Guild Magazine
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Am I wrong in thinking that there should have been an April UK Lace Guild Magazine? If so, did anyone get one? As with many of the others, mine arrived this morning. In the January issue there was a note that the April magazine would be late (I probably would have missed that, too, but being a proof reader where Lace is concerned I have to read *every* word - so for me it was a quick flick to see what the pictures look like in colour, and read Betsy Bobbin which isn't included in the proofs!) due to the relatively late date of the AGM this year. This is because the subscription renewal slips accompany the April issue, and because the subscription rate is, if it is going to be, changed at the AGM, these cannot be printed until afterwards. When I took my Myth or Mystery entries over to the Hollies on Wednesday of last week the staff were in the midst of overprinting the details onto the slips (which had just come back from the printers) and then printing and affixing the address labels (as you can imagine, this takes more than a day to do, especially when there are only three people to do it). Bearing in mind that the magazines go out second class post, it wasn't bad going to get it today! If anyone bothers to read the reviews, I did the one on Angela's book - and yes, Mom did get her Christmas present - and very much appreciated it - there wasn't space to print the review in the January issue so although the comment was relevant when I wrote it, it probably seems a bit strange at the beginning of May! I don't know what the overseas rate will definitely be, but the UK renewal has gone up the normal two pounds to 23.00 pounds - the first rise in three years (it has previously tended to be alternate years for price increases). Perhaps someone who attended the AGM (I couldn't go this year) can put Tamara's mind at rest over the overseas rate? The proposals on the Agenda (sent out with the January issue) were for 27.00 pounds Europe, 31.00 pounds Overseas. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Video Recorder and DVD question
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Jean,Regarding your youngest daughter and bringing her TV/Video/DVD players etc to Australia, check with your DH, Australia house, or I can make enquiries for you. The reason being whilst we use PAL over here I believe the scan frequency is different. This brings back memories! Before I married (almost 23 years ago) I worked in the Communications and Engineering Department of the BBC in Birmingham - handling the engineering information queries, and will my TV work in was one of the most frequent questions - even if they were only going away for a fortnight! I'm sure the BBC are still another source for the information of what will work where - and these days, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find the information on the web. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Maltese Needle Lace ?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes But yes, Alice I agree with you. This looks like chemical lace to me, but it does have a Maltese-esque look to it. Or should I say Neo-Maltese?... ; ) My first thought looking at it was that it is chemical lace, too, Clay. Maybe for Maltese read Guipure? -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) Passport details
Just received this one from my sister - put in my daughter's details and must admit the picture it came up with was a good likeness :-))) Don't panic - have a good giggle instead! --- Forwarded message follows --- In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kate Willis writes I've found a website that holds everyone's passport details. Anyone can access other people's personal info which is of course a major worry in terms of identity fraud etc. I've removed my info. I suggest you do the same. The website address is: www.humnri.com/enter/passport Kate ;) -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) A friend of mine posted this in the forum.
My sister, Kate, sent this one to me - as she has four cats, I can just imagine the mayhem if it was fact rather than fiction --- Forwarded message follows --- In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kate Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (Wrapping Presents with one of Kates Cats). 1 Clear large space on table for wrapping present. 2 Go to closet and collect bag in which present is contained, and shut door. 3 Open door and remove cat from closet. 4 Go to cupboard and retrieve rolls of wrapping paper. 5 Go back and remove cat from cupboard. 6 Go to drawer, and collect transparent sticky tape, ribbons, scissors, labels, etc. . . 7 Lay out presents and wrapping materials on table, to enable wrapping strategy to be formed. 8 Go back to drawer to get string, remove cat that has been in the drawer since last visit and collect string. 9 Remove present from bag. 10 Remove cat from bag. 11 Open box to check present, remove cat from box, replace present. 12 Lay out paper to enable cutting to size. 13 Try and smooth out paper, realize cat is underneath and remove cat. 14 Cut the paper to size, keeping the cutting line straight. 15 Throw away first sheet as cat chased the scissors, and tore the paper. 16 Cut second sheet of paper to size - by putting cat in the bag the present came in. 17 Place present on paper. 18 Lift up edges of paper to seal in present. Wonder why edges don't reach. Realize cat is between present and paper. Remove cat. 19 Place object on paper, to hold in place while tearing transparent sticky tape. 20 Spend 20 minutes carefully trying to remove transparent sticky tape from cat with pair of nail scissors. 21 Seal paper with sticky tape, making corners as neat as possible. 22 Look for roll of ribbon. Chase cat down hall in order to retrieve ribbon. 23 Try to wrap present with ribbon in a two-directional turn. 24 Re-roll ribbon and remove paper, which is now torn due to cat's enthusiastic ribbon chase. 25 Repeat steps 13-20 until you reach last sheet of paper. 26 Decide to skip steps 13-17 in order to save time and reduce risk of losing last sheet of paper. Retrieve old cardboard box that is the right size for sheet of paper. 27 Put present in box, and tie down with string. 28 Remove string, open box and remove cat. 29 Put all packing materials in bag with present and head for locked room. 30 Once inside lockable room, lock door and start to relay out paper and materials. 31 Remove cat from box, unlock door, put cat outside door, close and relock. 32 Repeat previous step as often as is necessary (until you can hear cat from outside door) 33 Lay out last sheet of paper. (This will be difficult in the small area of the toilet, but do your best) 34 Discover cat has already torn paper. Unlock door go out and hunt through various cupboards, looking for sheet of last year's paper. Remember that you haven't got any left because cat helped with this last year as well. 35 Return to lockable room, lock door, and sit on toilet and try to make torn sheet of paper look presentable. 36 Seal box, wrap with paper and repair by very carefully sealing with sticky tape. Tie up with ribbon and decorate with bows to hide worst areas. 37 Label. Sit back and admire your handiwork, congratulate yourself on completing a difficult job. 38 Unlock door, and go to kitchen to make drink and feed cat. 39 Spend 15 minutes looking for cat until coming to obvious conclusion. 40 Unwrap present, untie box and remove cat. 41 Go to store and buy a gift bag -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] NEC
In a message dated 01/12/2003 21:41:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So where were Annette and Liz at 3 pm on Sunday In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes because we thought they were annoucing the winners of the draw. I think at 3pm they were announcing the draw - we all met up at 2pm, Jean :-). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Magic roundabouts
Don't know whether anyone else has picked up on this one, but on our local evening TV news the other night there was a piece about a bloke who is making a calendar of photos of the various magic roundabouts - and has gone so far as to have T-shirts printed, too. There was also talk of a book! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] RE: Canberra and Croydon
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karen Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes roundabout in Swindon. This is a lage roundabout surrounded by 5 smaller ones, making it possible to travel around the roundabout in both a clockwise and anticlockwise direction. We've got one in Tamworth, too - they've tried all sorts of things with it over the years, but the present solution seems to work. It's known as The Egg - basically because the central island is egg shaped. When they built the mini islands, it became a somewhat scrambled egg! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Help sought in UK
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Collyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes but having now received her Bank statement she finds that she has been charged twice!! She has duly emailed the PRO letting them know etc. We had similar happen in December last year - but in person, at a Little Chef (roadside cafe chain). I thought they had put the card through twice at the time, but wasn't certain. Then, in February, the amount showed up on our statement (usually these things go through in a week at most) - and then three weeks later the same amount appeared on our statement. I keep close watch on the account, so when the second transaction appeared I phoned the *bank* straight away and told them what had happened. They said they would investigate, and write to me with the outcome - which they did - they agreed the second payment was a duplicate and refunded it to our account. The Little Chef then had 60 days to prove that the request for payment was genuine, in which case we would have had to pay the amount, but obviously they were not able to do so. In general, if your bank is on your side, they have much more clout than you do! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Fishing for cookies
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Lard or suet would make much nicer cookies than vegetable shortening. Except that, as my coeliac father in law discovered, thanks to various EEC directives (which may or may not be the case outside Europe) suet is no longer available direct from the butcher, and the processed variety is usually coated with flour to stop it from sticking together... yet another of the minefield of foods that sound safe until you look what is actually used in the processing, but never mentioned in the ingredient lists - eg chocolates that have travelled along a conveyor belt sprinkled with flour! Lard tends to increase the shortness of a pastry dough - hence the reason why we were taught to use half lard, half margarine for pastry making. Ground almonds produce the melt in the mouth effect, but only for those who can eat them (I can't - since I discovered that various nuts were the culprits in producing mouth ulcers! - and on that score, if you have a nut allergy, beware the chocolate cakes in certain UK National Trust restaurants, some contain ground almonds). -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Hot weather and the British railway system
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yesterday trains were restricted to 60 mph instead of their usual 120 mph because of the exceptionally hot weather making it possible that the railway lines will buckle. We're having almost record temperatures - Even more so if you believe the main commercial local radio station for the Birmingham area - on the news this morning (in the car on the way to work - we listen to Radio 4 in the house) - trains are being delayed because the managers are afraid the tracks will melt - I don't think it is likely to be *that* hot, though! I agree with my father, who used to lay track back in the days of thirty men to a sixty foot length - the problems are caused by the continuous weld type of track used, which has none of the expansion joints of the old type. Consequently, you get hot weather, and the track buckles; other stresses cause cracks and hence the derailments of the last few years. Not that there were no accidents before, but some things ask for trouble. -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Alice band
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes An Alice band is usually an elasticated ring put around the head (forehead and under the back of the hair) to hold the hair back. Except here in the Midlands we've always called that a headband! Now more commonly rigid and shaped like a tiara, but worn with the pints down behind the ears. This is what we refer to as an Alice band - though I'm wondering *pints* of what would fit behind normal ears???!! -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Went south
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Angel Skubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When a business Goes out of Business it is sort of dead as a doornail too so it is sort of related to that side of the definition. However, when I think about it, when your boobs go south they are really on their last legs too...so to speak. Hee hee. Another use I have come across is that of it's snowing down south - to indicate that one's petticoat (underskirt) is showing! Out of curiosity, do such things go north in the southern hemisphere? -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
