RE: [leaf-user] Save Zebra config fails

2003-12-16 Thread Eric B Kiser
Wim,

Glad to be of service. Please let us know if you run into any other
snags.

Eric Kiser

 -Original Message-
 From: Wim Acke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:37 PM
 To: Eric B Kiser; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Save Zebra config fails
 
 Eric and Eric,
 
 Thanks for your quick responses !
 I tried again today, and suddenly everything is working fine ?!
Probably
 the
 problem was indeed caused by a full ram filesystem yesterday, since I
was
 testing with lots of logging active at that time (which I switched off
 now...).  I didn't check with 'df' at that time.
 
 Thanks again for your replies.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Wim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric B Kiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 5:01
 To: 'Wim Acke'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Save Zebra config fails
 
 
 Hi Wim,
 
 The command you are using to back-up the configuration was built based
on
 the idea of working with a standard distribution of either Linux or
*BSD.
 Where the OS, applications, etc. are stored on a hard drive and are
 running
 in RAM. When making modifications to the configuration through the CLI
you
 are modifying the running configuration in RAM and when you save those
 changes to startup the changes are saved to the *.conf files on the
hard
 drive.
 
 LEAF distro's work a little different. When you boot from the floppy
the
 OS,
 applications, etc. are uncompressed and written to a RAM drive and
then
 your
 system starts up by loading what it needs into your remaining RAM.
 
 Having said that, on a box running Bering uClibc, when you modify the
 running configuration you are moding what is in RAM. When you save to
 startup you are moding what is stored in the RAM drive based on the
config
 that is currently in RAM. This would only be read if you then stopped
and
 restarted the service. If you then want the router to be able to
reboot
 from
 the floppy you would need to backup /etc from the backup menu. This
takes
 all of the changes made to files under /etc and writes them down to
disk
 from the RAM drive.
 
 On the other hand, if you are saying that commands issued from the CLI
are
 not successfully modifying the appropriate *.conf file in the RAM
drive
 there is another problem. Before I open that can of worms please
respond
 to
 the list and let us know if this solved your problem.
 
 Regards,
 Eric Kiser
 
  -Original Message-
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Acke
  Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:20 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [leaf-user] Save Zebra config fails
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm experimenting with Bering uClibc and the Zebra package.
  When i try to save the ospfd configuration from the vty (with
'write' or
  'copy running-config startup-config', I get the message
Configuration
  save
  to /etc/zebra/ospfd.conf.  But when i check this file, it is still
the
  default one, so it seems nothing is saved.
 
  Am I doing something wrong ?  Any suggestions ?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Wim
 
 
 
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[leaf-user] RE: [leaf-devel] Bering: time to hand on the torch ...

2003-12-08 Thread Eric B Kiser
Jacques,

It is with great respect and appreciation that I say, thank you for all
of your hard work on behalf of the LEAF-Project. You will be missed.

Best regards,
Eric Kiser

 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leaf-devel-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques Nilo
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [leaf-devel] Bering: time to hand on the torch ...
 
 Dear folks
 After quite some years spent working on LEAF, most of them dedicated
to
 the
 Bering variant, I realise that the time I can spend on the project
is
 diminishing every day. I have therefore decided to follow one of the
many
 good principle from Eric Raymond's seminal paper (The cathedral and
the
 Bazaar):
 
 When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand
it
 off
 to a competent successor.
 
 Eric Wolzak, my Bering fellow from the begining in this project, will
from
 now on take over the responsability of pursuing the Bering project on
his
 own.
 
 I am sure they are now many knowledgeable people around who will bring
 fresh
 ideas and energy. And the doc is still around :-)
 
 It has been a real pleasure to work with such a nice community
 
 Long life to the LEAF project !
 
 Cheers
 
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RE: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...

2003-07-29 Thread Eric B Kiser
Well said, thanks George.

Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leaf-user-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Metz
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:56 AM
 To: Craig Caughlin
 Cc: LEAF (LEAF)
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...
 
 Craig Caughlin wrote:
  Hi Eric,
  Thanks for the response. I think I'm like Alex, I don't quite
understand
  what you mean when you say Then the entire Internet gets access to
the
  other side of your VPN without having to compromise your system.
Could
  you explain that a little bit? Thank you.
 
 It's fairly straightforward. Let's say you've got a machine on the
 internet with nothing between you and the 'net. You're running with a
 public IP(I'm gonna use a private, so just pretend) of 172.16.8.1 on
 your machine, and you're connected to a VPN. Routing is also turned on
 on this particular machine.
 
 I'm a bit rusty on my Linux routing statements, but on a Cisco, the
 way you'd do it is:
 
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.16.8.1
 ip route 172.16.8.1 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.1
 
 Where the 192.168 address is the far side of your WAN connection. This
 provides a route to your machine, and tells the cisco to send ALL
 traffic to your machine for routing. After that it's a fairly
 straightforward issue to run an ICMP scan with a relatively low
 timeout setting on the 10/8, 172.16/12, and 192.168/16 IP blocks until
 you find a valid IP, then work on that area of the block and play with
 someone's corporate LAN.
 
 So yeah, this can be a really, REALLY big security hole.
 
 Just one thing; if you can browse while connected to a VPN, make
 CERTAIN that you're not browsing THROUGH the VPN before you go getting
 all panicky. It's certainly a strong likelihood, and AFAIK there's
 relatively little chance of the hole you're referring to from
 happening. (IOW, browsing on your public connection while connected
 via VPN.)
 
 George Metz
 
 
 
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RE: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...

2003-07-29 Thread Eric B Kiser
Alex,

Most modern IPsec clients have better security than they used. There was
a time that if your company was using public addresses internally ...and
a remote client had a VPN connection across the Internet ...and said
remote client also was inadvertently configured to route traffic from
the internet across the VPN ...and someone knew enough to target you.

It was (and still is) possible to get into the company network that way.
I realize that the chances of this happening are extremely remote. I
have, however, witnessed this very thing while working for Ascend
communications. Thankfully FreeS/WAN is a much better product and public
addresses are not as commonly used internally as they once were.

Assuming that you are using private addressing internally and assuming
that your ISP is filtering the RFC 1918 addresses, then yes the next-hop
should be the extent of the threat. This threat, however, can be
mitigated by good fire-walling practices.

Best Regards,

Eric In the grip of paranoia. Kiser

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leaf-user-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynn Avants
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:38 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...
 
 On Tuesday 29 July 2003 04:53 pm, Alex Rhomberg wrote:
   It's fairly straightforward. Let's say you've got a machine on the
   internet with nothing between you and the 'net. You're running
with a
   public IP(I'm gonna use a private, so just pretend) of 172.16.8.1
on
   your machine, and you're connected to a VPN. Routing is also
turned on
   on this particular machine.
 
  I still don't get it: Let's say I have the setup you described, with
  192.168.1.0/24 being my VPN. You're sitting on the other side of the
  Internet, say 10 hops away. How can you send a packet to
192.168.1.1? Is
  there a standard tunneling method that is always activated? The 10
hops
 on
  the way would all drop a packet sent to 192.168.1.1.
 
  Wouldn't the cryptic commands you described only work on my next
hop,
 i.e.
  the ISPs router? This would reduce the number of people who can get
at
 my
  VPN quite significantly (ISP admins instead of whole Internet)
 
 The private addressing sent via the tunnel is encapsulated and
encrypted
 under
 the public ip address of the VPN gateway. Nothing outside of the VPN
 gateways
 (ie... internet) would have any idea that any private addressing is
 attached
 to these packets.
 
 To further the earlier question of using both VPN and internet access
at
 the
 same time. you can't run a VPN w/o internet access can you? :)
 In all cases, the proper routing is needed for *any* VPN to work
properly.
 Improper routing is the security risks that would be commonly found,
 though
 FreeS/WAN makes this setup extremely simple (built-in).
 --
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 Linux Embedded Appliance Firewall Developer
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net
 http://guitarlynn.homelinux.org:81
 
 
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RE: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...

2003-07-28 Thread Eric B Kiser
It gets even worse if routing is turned ON. Then the entire Internet
gets access to the other side of your VPN without having to compromise
your system.

Regards,
Eric

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 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:47 PM
 To: Craig Caughlin; LEAF (LEAF)
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...
 
 The only thing I can think of is if the given box's connection has
been
 compermised, then the attacker would also have access to the systems
on
 the
 other side ot the VPN.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Craig Caughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LEAF (LEAF) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:35 PM
 Subject: [leaf-user] VPN security issue? Slightly O/T...
 
 
  Hi folks,
  I seem to remember a while back reading somewhere (likely either
here at
  the newsgroup or perhaps a Microsoft security bulletin?) that it's a
  SIGNIFICANT security problem if you have an active VPN connection on
a
  given box and can browse the internet at the same time. It was my
  understanding that either one is fine...but not both at the same
time.
  Does this sound familiar to anyone? I also don't remember why it
posed
  such a gaping security problem, per se. Comments???
 
  Thank you,
  Craig
 
 
 
 
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RE: [leaf-user] Bering/Dachstien/writein on HD (was Is there a way to install Bering on HD)

2003-07-24 Thread Eric B Kiser
Dr. Tibbs,

Debian, RedHat, or any version of Linux or BSD would be perfectly fine
for what you are doing. In fact, as much as I would rather continue to
champion LEAF, for your situation it would probably be easier in the
long run for you to choose whatever OS is going to be most familiar to
you and your class. That way they do not have to learn the specifics of
configuring LEAF when what they are really trying to do is learn routing
protocols.

On the other hand, if you had a huge amount of time for development and
documentation (or some grad students to abuse) you could use User Mode
Linux with the latest Bering and Zebra to produce a virtual environment
that would allow each student to create multiple routing environments on
a single physical system and then connect the physical systems together
through multiple physical interfaces. Very sleek stuff!

If you do intend to continue with using LEAF then I would recommend
Bering. It has the greatest user base to provide you with answers to any
questions that you might have.

Also, here is a bit of zebra stuff that might help you make the
decision. There are actually three versions of Zebra:

ZebOS - A commercial version developed by IP Infusion which was founded
by Kunihiro Ishiguro, the original creator of the Zebra Routing Engine.
Their version is supposed to be exceptionally feature rich (such as MPLS
support) and stable enough for the most grueling of production
environments. As a learning institution this could be an avenue for you.
Check www.ipinfusion.com.

Zebra - This is the GPL version of the ZebOS software. Sometime ago
there was a split with ZebOS being developed primarily by IP Infusion
internal programmers and Zebra being developed by the Internet
community. The only real maintainer of Zebra is Kunihiro himself. Having
a profitable company to run, he is notoriously bad about putting out new
stable releases and in the past many good patches took for ever to be
accepted if they were not forgotten outright.

Zebra-PJ - So named by the Zebra mailing list since it has been
maintained by Paul Jakma. Over the last six months this version has
become the standard. It even just recently got its own Debian package
maintainer. It is also the version that is currently recommended on the
Zebra mailing list.

Having said all of this, my zebra.lrp packages are based on the standard
Zebra release NOT Zebra-PJ and I DO recommend using the latest
release of Zebra-PJ.

Hopefully, in the near future, work will allow me the time to get these
packages updated, however, that is at least three months out.

If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask.

Respectfully,
Eric

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 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Richard W. Tibbs
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:39 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [leaf-user] Bering/Dachstien/writein on HD (was Is there a
way
 to install Bering on HD)
 
 List,
 Thank you all for your advice.  Someone advised to simply install
debian
 with such a generous hard drive.
 I thought the capabilities of the LEAF variants (having descended from
 LRP) made them attractive for router applications.
 If debian or Red Hat would do just as well, I may as well use that.
 My intentions, FWIW, are to teach a class in configuring BGP and OSPF
 using zebra.lrp.
 Are there any advantages/disadvantages to Bering as opposed to
Dachstein
 or other distribs for this purpose?
 
 Thanks,
 Rick.
 
 
 
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RE: [leaf-user] wisp-dist zebra ripd routing and multiple IP addresses per interface

2003-02-28 Thread Eric B Kiser
Hello J.

Use of the Zebra Routing Engine is not very wide spread in the leaf
project(yet...).
The best place to pose this question would be the zebra mailing list.
Here is the link to subscribe. http://www.zebra.org/mailing.html

Best Regards,
Eric Kiser


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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Leaf-user
Subject: [leaf-user] wisp-dist zebra ripd routing and multiple IP
addresses per interface


I found that the zebra ripd only sends out routing info referencing the
source as the primary address / subnet on the interface it is running on.

therefore, if you connect two routers running just the ripd and they are
connected to each other on a subnet that is a secondary subnet on both
interfaces, no routes will propagate .

In order for routes to propagate, both interfaces must have an IP address
that exists in the Primary subnet of the other interface.

Also, routes can propagate in only one direction if one interface is running
on the Primary address/subnet and the other on the Secondary.

Example:
Routers A and B are connected to each other via thier eth0 interfaces.
router A :  eth0: 10.0.0.1/24, 172.16.0.1/24

router B:  eth0:  192.168.1.1/24, 10.0.0.2/24

Note that router B's Secondary IP address of 10.0.0.2/24 exists on the
subnet of the Primary IP address of 10.0.0.1/24 on Router A

Now, routes from router A will propagate to router B
But, routes from router B WILL NOT propagate to router A.

Now this is OK as long as router A is the downstream router supplying router
B and router B's default gateway is router A.  But routes will become
unreachable by some on the network if it is the other way around.

If anyone has found out anything additional or find an error in my analysis,
please respond.

J.





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RE: [leaf-user] Unable to run linuxuml Virtual Router

2002-12-05 Thread Eric B Kiser
Hi Derek,

This usually happens because you are using an incompatible version of UML
Utilities. Here is the site to get the version you need:
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-sf.html. The trick here is to find
the version that works. Try to choose the one that has the date code that is
closest to the date code for the kernel patch that you are using.

If you are using kernel 2.4.18-45 try using uml_utilities_20020729.tar.bz2.
If this does not work for you then it will be a matter of testing different
UML utilities until you find the one that works for you.

Best of luck and let us know how it turns out.
Regards,
Eric Kiser



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Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leaf-user] Unable to run linuxuml Virtual Router


Hi
It is probably me doing something idiotic, but I am having trouble running
Bering_1.0-stable_img_bering_1680.bin in the linuxuml-2.4.18-45 Virtual
environment.

I have followed Jacques Nilo's instructions, and can successfully create the
Bering_fs file system, but when I run my startuml script I get this output
in
my xterm.

early stuff SNIPPED

RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
ip_conntrack version 2.0 (256 buckets, 2048 max) - 312 bytes per conntrack
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
Initializing software serial port version 1
mconsole (version 2) initialized on /home/leafuml/.uml/YEarYZ/mconsole
unable to open root_fs for validation
UML Audio Relay
Initializing stdio console driver
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 401k freed
VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem).
LINUXRC: Bering - Initrd - V1.0-stable
Mounting a 6M TMPFS filesystem...
LINUXRC: Could not mount the boot device. Can't install packages.
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!


My startuml script looks like :-
#!/bin/sh
./linuxuml-2.4.18-45 udb0=Bering_fs initrd=initrd.lrp root=/dev/ram0
init=/linuxrc \
 boot=/dev/udb0:minix PKGPATH=/dev/udb0 devfs=nomount
LRP=root,etc,local,log,modules,shorwall

Any suggestions would be welcome.

derek






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RE: [leaf-user] zebra ospf routing problem

2002-11-27 Thread Eric B Kiser
Hi Jay,

This question is probably best posed to the zebra mailing list. You can
register for that here: http://www.zebra.org/mailing.html.

You did not say what version of ospfd you are using but I would definitely
recommend getting at least the latest standard release, zebra-0.93b. If you
want to build your own package the tarball is located here:
ftp://ftp.zebra.org/pub/zebra/.

You can also try the most recent tarball put together by Paul Jakma. It
includes a whole bunch of patches that have yet to be accepted into the
standard zebra distribution. (They are notoriously slow about integrating
any new patches.) The only warning about this is apparently one of the
patches Paul uses breaks IPv6 in zebra. For IPv4 it seems to be well tested
and resolves a number of ospf problems. Once again, if you want to build
your own package you can find his tarball here:
http://people.ie.alphyra.com/~paulj/zebra/2002/.

As a note: The Paul Jakma release is more than likely what I am going to use
for my next set of packages specifically because of all the ospf bug fixes
that it has. The only reason that I have not moved to this already is I have
not had the time to verify whether the vanMaarseveen_patch actually breaks
anything with IPv6 or not. Last that I saw this is still speculative.

Or you can grab my package located at:
http://www.eric.kiser.com/download.htm. I would recommend using the one that
is listed under Zebra-0.93b *.lrp Packages  (zebra-0.93b-gv.0.05).
Compared to my most recent version, zebra-0.93b-gv.0.07, it is smaller and
it is only missing support for MPLS.

Best of luck and let us know what resolves the issue for you.
Regards,
Eric Kiser

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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:05 PM
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Subject: [leaf-user] zebra ospf routing problem


I am running wisp-dist release 2002-09-21(2348)

I have been running the ospfd with zebra and it seemed to start out working
fine.  however, over time one of the units will drop all learned routes and
all other routers on the system lose the learned routes from that router as
well.

usually if I restart zebra ( /etc/init.d/zebra restart) all routes come back
and propagate thru the network within 40 to 60 seconds.

Also, sometimes a single route will not propagate thru the network.

I have 7 routers in the network and when the ospf works it's great.   But I
have had to restart too many times now.

I have set the router-id manually on each unit to make sure there were no
duplicate router-id's.

Also, I have several IP addresses on each interface.

Anyone having any issues with this?  Or any ideas ?

--Jay



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RE: [leaf-user] Bering and IPv6 (XS26)

2002-11-25 Thread Eric B Kiser
Hello Radim,

Since this is a new installation and you don't have to worry about
versioning issues across your network I recommend updating to Bering
1.0-stable. Other than that I would recommend checking iptables. Bering does
not have iptables support for ipv6 by default. Please keep us posted on your
progress.

Regards,
Eric

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Subject: [leaf-user] Bering and IPv6 (XS26)


Hi all,

I tried to configure my Bering (1.0-rc1) to have IPv6 support.

There are my steps:
- insmod ipv6  (success)
- compile iptunnel, ping6, ifconfig, route, ip to support IPv6 (success)
- configure IPv6 tunnel as described on xs26.net Help page (success)
- ping6 outside the Bering (failure with error From ::1 Destination
unreachable: Address
unreachable)
- ping6 into Bering from outside world (failure with error From
3ffe:80ef:100::: Destination
unreachable: Address unreachable)

I have configured other IPv6 XS26 account on other Linux box (with RH7.1)
and it works perfectly
there. I don't know, why my Bering box does not :-(((

I hope, all configured correctly, XS26 account is active.

Thanks,
Radim



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RE: [leaf-user] Bering v1.0-stable released !

2002-11-14 Thread Eric B Kiser
Great job guys, thanks for all your hard work.

Most respectfully,
Eric Kiser

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Finally, it's out. All the details are here:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/article.php?sid=63

We will probably take a rest for a while :-)

Enjoy!

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RE: [leaf-user] network restart command

2002-10-15 Thread Eric B Kiser

Does this work for anyone else using Bering 1.0-rc3 or rc2. Periodically
this comes up on the list so I give it a try and I get the same response
from both:

#svi network restart
/etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory

Am I the only one seeing this?

Eric Kiser

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svi networking restart should do it.


 -Original Message-
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Subject:[leaf-user] network restart command

I am using Bering 1.0-rc3 and was wondering if there was a command to
restart the interfaces like 'service network restart' or something. Or
do the interfaces update after the file has been saved?
Thanks

Charley King


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RE: [leaf-user] network restart command

2002-10-15 Thread Eric B Kiser

Um...hmnh! Hows um 'bout that jive? You are 100% correct! Now I will adjourn
myself to someplace far away from computer-anything and issue prayer that
this thread will miraculously disappear. Yikes...that's just...damn!

Most humbly,
Eric Kiser

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Subject: RE: [leaf-user] network restart command


Eric -- I don't use Bering myself, but I don't need to in order to point
out the problem.

You tried the command:

 #svi network restart
 /etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory

The prior message said to try the command:

 svi networking restart

networking != network

At 04:46 PM 10/15/02 -0400, Eric B Kiser wrote:
Does this work for anyone else using Bering 1.0-rc3 or rc2. Periodically
this comes up on the list so I give it a try and I get the same response
from both:

#svi network restart
/etc/init.d/network: No such file or directory

Am I the only one seeing this?

Eric Kiser

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 svi networking restart should do it.


  -Original Message-
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Sent:   Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[leaf-user] network restart command

I am using Bering 1.0-rc3 and was wondering if there was a command to
restart the interfaces like 'service network restart' or something. Or
do the interfaces update after the file has been saved?
Thanks

Charley King




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[leaf-user] RE: [leaf-devel] snort and nmap

2002-10-10 Thread Eric B Kiser

Thanks David,

I will keep my eyes open for them.

Regards,
Eric Kiser

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Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] snort and nmap


On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:05:49PM -0400, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 I am looking for the most recent versions of nmap.lrp and snort.lrp. I
 checked the CVS packages repository and the only thing I found was an
older
 version of nmap and no snort.

I'm the one who's probably responsible for those packages - and
responsible for them being so old.

I've not kept up development as I ought.  However, I'm planning to get
back into the game.  I recently configured a Pentium with Red Hat 6.x
and Oxygen dual boot; we'll see how it goes.

Also, the Oxygen/LEAF Resource CDROM contains all binaries and sources
and probably also the compile-time options in a patch and so forth.

These days, I've been working towards putting all source code into a
sort of ports tree like FreeBSD and Gentoo Linux; it becomes very
flexible.

I'll see if I can compile nmap and/or snort in coming days.




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[leaf-user] snort and nmap

2002-10-09 Thread Eric B Kiser

Howdy Folks,

I am looking for the most recent versions of nmap.lrp and snort.lrp. I
checked the CVS packages repository and the only thing I found was an older
version of nmap and no snort.

Your guidance is appreciated...

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RE: [leaf-user] (no subject)

2002-10-07 Thread Eric B Kiser

Howdy Johnnattanh,

The old LRP mailing lists are virtually unused. Just wanted to let you know
before you got your hopes up about getting a response from that arena.

After rereading your last message I had thought that you were referring to
*.lrp packages. My mistake. I am not familiar with the modules that you are
referring to. If you could point me in the direction that you found them I
would appreciate it.

Default routing on all of the LEAF distributions is statically configured.
However you can add packages that will give you the ability to use various
dynamic routing protocols.

I recommend using zebra.lrp packaged by David Douthitt. It is based on
zebra-0.92 and supports bgp, ospf, and rip. I have had problems running it
on the LEAF Bering distro but I know of people that have used it with the
LEAF Oxygen distro with great success.

It can be found here: http://www.leaf-project.org/devel/ddouthitt/packages/

EIGRP is a cisco specific protocol. The only way to play with this is to
play with cisco.

I am currently working on an updated version of the zebra package. The new
version is built around the original modular concept that zebra was built on
and you will be able to load the different protocol daemons as independent
packages. Meaning that if you want bgp you would load the bgpd.lrp and do
not have to give up precious space to protocols that you may not want or
need.

Hope this was helpful,
Eric Kiser




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Hi everyone,
Again somebody can tell me how to manage the routing protocols in a LRP/LEAF
box. (RIP, OSPF, BGP, ISIS, maybe IGRP and EIGRP)
I think that the default routing protocol is RIP but only listen RIP advice
or also send routing RIP advice.
I saw some modules named like ospf.o and igrp.o, but how can configure them.
If somebody have some information about it please tell me.
Thank you in advance.
 Johnnattanh

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[leaf-user] current ipsec

2002-10-02 Thread Eric B Kiser

Hi,

Can anyone point me in the direction of the most current ipsec.lrp's. For
the life of me I can't find them today.

Thanks in advance,
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RE: [leaf-user] current ipsec

2002-10-02 Thread Eric B Kiser

Thanks for the many responses.

Regards,
Eric

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On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 07:57, Eric B Kiser wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Can anyone point me in the direction of the most current ipsec.lrp's. For
 the life of me I can't find them today.


For Bering:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/bering/latest/packages/

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RE: [leaf-user] OT: Won't boot if headless

2002-09-25 Thread Eric B Kiser

Ah, makes perfect sense now. Thanks, Larry.

Regards,
Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:12 AM
To: Eric B Kiser
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Subject: RE: [leaf-user] OT: Won't boot if headless


Hi Eric,
In this context pcb means printed circuiit board
The board where the keyboard encoder chip is usually a 40 connection chip.
Some keyboards have a small pcb connected to the keyboard and the cable
coming from the computer.

I hope this helps.


Larry Platzek  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:38:56 -0400
 From: Eric B Kiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [leaf-user] OT: Won't boot if headless

 Hi Sjaak,

 What is a pcb?

 Thanks,
 Eric

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 A quick and dirty solution,

 Why don't you create your own emulator? Take the old keyboard apart, all
 you
 need from it is the tiny pcb inside it, remove the rest, wrap the pcb in
 tape, and voila,
 your home-built keyboard emulator is ready to go...

 Sjaak





   I suspect that the problem is hardwired and the only solution is to
   change the motherboard. (I see no BIOS settings that should affect
the
   keyboard.) But somebody prove me wrong, please.
 
  One solution would be to get one of those keyboard emulators. They're
  not cheap so maybe a used LEAF-compatible motherboard is the best bet.
  Have a look at these sites for some pricing on the emulators:
 
  http://www.blackbox.com  and seach for Ghost emulators
  http://www.cadesigns.co.uk/dk1b.htm
 
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RE: [leaf-user] (no subject)

2002-09-23 Thread Eric B Kiser


Howdy Johnnattanh,

The LRP mailing lists are virtually unused. Just wanted to let you know
before you got your hopes up about getting a response from that arena.

Hello, My name is Johnnattanh
My question is this if I want to my LRP/LEAF box advertise routing tables
with certain protocol (RIP,OSPF,IS-IS,maybe IGRP or EIGRP)

I would recommend using zebra.lrp it is based on zebra-0.92 and supports
bgp, ospf, and rip. I have had problems running it on the LEAF Bering distro
but I know of people that have used it with the LEAF Oxygen distro with
great success.

EIGRP is a cisco specific protocol. The only way to play with this is to
play with cisco.

There is a sourceforge project that is currently working on IS-IS support
for zebra but apparently it is still rather buggy and is only available as a
patch or series of patches to the main zebra source.

IGRP is just plain old and doesn't really compare to any of the more modern
OSPF, IS-IS, EIGRP.

 I have seen some
modules but, I only have to load them and that's it or I can configure
them
in some configuration file.

Yes, they must be configured. I would recommend joining the zebra mailing
list at zebra.org if you are going to work with it. One word of warning
though, the zebra mailing list can be caustic. There is usually nothing
warm, fuzzy, or even polite about it. Generally, though, if you show that
you have done your homework you can get the answers you need out of them.

Thank you in advance for the help and thank you for this greatful project.
Also someone knows where or if I can do a back to back connection between
2
ISDN boxes or connect 2 LRP/LEAF running ISDN in a serial link (I mean
without have a ISDN switch of the telco between the two boxes) or the LRP
can be used like an NT1 or NT2.

Nope, you would have to have something in between. Tens of thousands of
dollars just for an emulator, IIRC.

Good luck,
Eric

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RE: [leaf-user] file system problems.

2002-09-06 Thread Eric B Kiser

I just checked the help file for WinZip 8.0 and it states...

[snip]
TAR, Z, GZ, TAZ, and TGZ files are often found on Unix-based Internet sites.
TAR stands for “Tape ARchive”.  The TAR format does not provide compression;
it is used only to group files. GZ and Z files are gzip files.  GZ and Z
files cannot contain multiple files.  TAZ and TGZ files are TAR files
compressed in the gzip format.   Since almost all new archives are created
in Zip format, WinZip does not provide facilities to add to or create files
in these formats (however, all other WinZip functions are supported).
WinZip does not use external programs when working with files in these
formats.

Copyright © 1991-2000 by WinZip Computing, Inc.  All rights reserved.
[/snip]

Regards,
Eric


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Winzip reads tar but does not write tar. Saving is in zip format perforce.
If I'm wrong, please let me know.

Mohan

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 In the recent past, we have seen a lot of mail on partition size and
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 format and had to go thro' renaming object files. If we take the
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Why not just tar the modules and stick the tar file on the floppy?
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RE: [leaf-user] LEAF Newbie - Questions reguarding 4501 Bering install

2002-08-30 Thread Eric B Kiser

Hi Matt,

You mentioned that you had emBSD running on the 4501 previously. I have a
few questions for you.

What is your opinion of emBSD?

What made you decide to try out LEAF?

Do you have a comparative opinion? If so, what do you think?

Thanks,
Eric


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt
Stockdale
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] LEAF Newbie - Questions reguarding 4501 Bering
install


As is usual, I got it working all of 15 seconds after I sent this out. Turns
out I shouldn't have fdisked it, just used mkdosfs /dev/hde

Matt

On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 06:09:36PM -0400, Matt Stockdale wrote:
 I've searched the archives to some extent, but I couldn't find anything
relevant.. If however, I missed something, please point me in the right
direction..

 I'm attempting to install Bering rc3 onto a CF card, which will go into my
soekris 4501. I'm using RedHat 7.2 running on my IBM thinkpad (which has a
CF adapter built into it) to place the files on the CF. However, the 4501
just refuses to boot it.

 I've followed the instructions at
http://www.franzdoodle.com/bering/net4501_cf.txt, and also the very similar
set at
http://www.mail-archive.com/leaf-cvs-commits@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00074.
html.

 I wasn't sure how the CF was supposed to be made bootable as listed in the
franzdoodle docs, there was no mention of running syslinux on the CF (which
I did anyways), and I even tried adding serial 0 19200 to the top of
syslinux.cfg, to see if it was even booting syslinux, which is doesn't
appear to be.

 the CF I'm using is a Transcend 32mb that worked fine w/ emBSD.

 I used linux fdisk to partition it w/ 1 partition, spanning the whole CF,
of type FAT16 (hde1), and made the partition bootable. I copied all the
files over from the floppy image, replaced the kernel w/ one I compiled
(2.4.19) w/ serial support and serial console support built in, copied over
the ide and natsemi modules, and edited added the ttyS0 getty to inittab and
securetty..

 Any idea where I can start troubleshooting?

 Thanks,
   Matt

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RE: [leaf-user] LEAF Newbie - Questions reguarding 4501 Bering install

2002-08-30 Thread Eric B Kiser

Thanks allot for getting back so quickly. I certainly hope you stick it out
with us.

Your insight was appreciated,'
Eric

-Original Message-
From: Matt Stockdale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:35 AM
To: Eric B Kiser
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] LEAF Newbie - Questions reguarding 4501 Bering
install


I had to move away from emBSD because it has bugs when interacting w/ either
the 4501 or the natsemi ethernet onboard specifically. When I had a lot of
open connections through NAT (edonkey2000, winmx, etc), the ethernet would
just stop responding, and the box would eventually lock up. You could bring
it back by running a tcpdump on the interface (?!?!?! you could even tell it
to just capture a single packet. I don't know if it was flushing buffers or
something, but it did the trick). For the unit to be usable as a firewall, I
had to run tcpdumps once a minute, across all the interfaces, which impacted
performance pretty severly.

Also, I work for an ISP, and we've been forced to move all of our firewalls
to linux because OpenBSD fails so miserably under any sort of real load in
every version 3.0 release. (and older versions 2.7, 2.8, etc.  The only
version we've found to be stable is 2.9-CURRENT)

As far as LEAF goes, It's a little early for me to have much of an opinion,
but I have to say, except for the bugs, working w/ emBSD was so much better.
No mucking about w/ packages, it just ran w/ ufs right on the CF. SSH and
SCP by default.  It's not an entirely fair comparison, of course, because
LEAF needs to be able to have basic functionality on just a single floppy. I
mainly chose leaf because none of the other mini-linux distros that I could
fit on a 32mb CF card seemed very polished.

I'm going to continue to play w/ bering, I'm also toying w/ the idea of
getting a larger flash card (128,192, or 256Mb perhaps) and just doing a
normal redhat (or more likely debian, which has a far smaller minimum
footprint, although I never really liked it) and install to the CF, or, just
getting a Mini-ITX case and Mobo and using a regular hard drive.

Matt

On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:27:52AM -0400, Eric B Kiser wrote:
 Hi Matt,

 You mentioned that you had emBSD running on the 4501 previously. I have a
 few questions for you.

 What is your opinion of emBSD?

 What made you decide to try out LEAF?

 Do you have a comparative opinion? If so, what do you think?

 Thanks,
 Eric


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt
 Stockdale
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:35 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] LEAF Newbie - Questions reguarding 4501 Bering
 install


 As is usual, I got it working all of 15 seconds after I sent this out.
Turns
 out I shouldn't have fdisked it, just used mkdosfs /dev/hde

 Matt

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 06:09:36PM -0400, Matt Stockdale wrote:
  I've searched the archives to some extent, but I couldn't find anything
 relevant.. If however, I missed something, please point me in the right
 direction..
 
  I'm attempting to install Bering rc3 onto a CF card, which will go into
my
 soekris 4501. I'm using RedHat 7.2 running on my IBM thinkpad (which has a
 CF adapter built into it) to place the files on the CF. However, the 4501
 just refuses to boot it.
 
  I've followed the instructions at
 http://www.franzdoodle.com/bering/net4501_cf.txt, and also the very
similar
 set at

http://www.mail-archive.com/leaf-cvs-commits@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00074.
 html.
 
  I wasn't sure how the CF was supposed to be made bootable as listed in
the
 franzdoodle docs, there was no mention of running syslinux on the CF
(which
 I did anyways), and I even tried adding serial 0 19200 to the top of
 syslinux.cfg, to see if it was even booting syslinux, which is doesn't
 appear to be.
 
  the CF I'm using is a Transcend 32mb that worked fine w/ emBSD.
 
  I used linux fdisk to partition it w/ 1 partition, spanning the whole
CF,
 of type FAT16 (hde1), and made the partition bootable. I copied all the
 files over from the floppy image, replaced the kernel w/ one I compiled
 (2.4.19) w/ serial support and serial console support built in, copied
over
 the ide and natsemi modules, and edited added the ttyS0 getty to inittab
and
 securetty..
 
  Any idea where I can start troubleshooting?
 
  Thanks,
Matt
 
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RE: [leaf-user] [off-topic]cf/sm cards/readers

2002-08-26 Thread Eric B Kiser

Thanks for the info, Mike. Not much of a comparison when my solution was 10x
that price.

Eric

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Subject: RE: [leaf-user] [off-topic]cf/sm cards/readers


On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 21:40, Eric B Kiser wrote:
 Can anyone recommend where I can find prices better than this?

 Mike, is this price range within the bounds of what you originally had in
 mind when you were researching this previously?

Eric,
No. The SST ATA-Disk Module is less than $20 US.

ATA-Disk Module
http://www.sst.com/products/58sm_lm.html
ATA-Disk Chip Application Notes
http://www.sst.com/superflash/pdf/222.pdf
ATA-Disk Module Product Brief
http://www.sst.com/ata_disk/admbrief.pdf
ATA-Disk Module (Apacer)
http://www.apacer.com/product/flash/index_adc_adm.html

 Last question. Is write-protect on an ATA Flash PC Card a new thing?

It's a relatively new development. My understanding is, that CF PC Card
(PCMCIA) devices that support write protect don't run in true IDE mode.
The newer secure memory types may be supported as a bootable device.

CF 1.4 specifications.
http://www.compactflash.org/cfspc1_4.pdf

Note: we have links to flash disks and adapters in our web links section
of our web site.
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RE: [leaf-user] Recommended NICs?

2002-08-16 Thread Eric B Kiser

whoops, that was the original intent. Been gone for awhile and came back to
find over a thousand email in my inbox... starting to get a little fuzzy

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Cass Tolken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Eric B Kiser
Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Recommended NICs?


Hi Eric,

Did you mean to reply to the LEAF list too?  You seem to have sent this
e-mail only to me ;-).

--- Eric B Kiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have also been using the FA311 cards and have never had a problem. They
 also require only one instance of the natsemi.o driver module, like the
 tulip. The natsemi.o module, however, is not part of the Bering default
 installation and would have to be added separately. The documentation is
 excellent and the process of adding it is painless.

 Good Luck,
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RE: [leaf-user] RE: Problem to get wisp working!

2002-07-05 Thread Eric B Kiser

Samuel,

Last time I checked the Soekris boxes werre using National Semiconductor for
the Ethernet. You will need the natsemi.o module.

Eric

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Subject: RE: [leaf-user] RE: Problem to get wisp working!


 Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:23:51 -0300
 From: Samuel Abreu de Paula [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] RE: Problem to get wisp working!

 Ok, it's /dev/sda1 here, cos i use a CF Reader(USB) to access
 the CF! For linux, the CF it's a emul like a scsi device! so
 the /dev/sda is my
 CF in Linux!

 Thankz... but i did the Wisp boot in my aaeon!
 The CF has to be CHS, not LBA, the format of the first
 partition must be
 FAT16  32mb (in my case), and i use the newer version of syslinux!

 =)

 Now, one more question, wisp use IPTABLES??? in a iptables -L
 show none
 rules!

Samuel,

Let me preface this by saying you are now further along with wisp than I
am.  After successfully booting it I spent literally 2 minutes poking
around the menus before pulling the plug until I can get access to an AP
for real testing.  So in the absence of any other replies I'll try my
best.  By the way, I'm glad to hear that wisp has joined sourceforge...
I had wondered initially why it wasn't there (here)!

Wisp is based on Bering if I understand correctly.  I think you can
access the 'old' bering menus from the new main menu.  I would (because
I use bering) tend to work from there.  I don't recall seeing shorewall
in the package, so I don't know what sort of firewalling is in effect.
My impression was that there was no firewall capabilities as
distributed.  I don't know if that means it runs with iptables or
ipchains... If you don't get an error with that command, I would assume
iptables are supported, but that no rules have been created (?).  I
would be curious to know if shorewall could just 'drop in' to wisp and
if so, why it isn't there already (unless I just missed it).

In another message you ask about 'Hermes' assigned as a nickname.  I
think that is set in wireless.opts which should be found through the
bering menu (pcmcia).  If the wireless tools are present, iwconfig could
be used at the command prompt to change this temporarily.  See the link
to the man page on Jacques Nilo's sourceforge site.

As for the onboard NIC in the soekris SBC, you will need the matching
module for the chipset.  Again this would likely be done by adding the
correct module(s) to /lib/modules and the corresponding entry(s) in
/etc/modules.  If you haven't already experimented with Bering, I'd
suggest you start there and get a feel for how it works before adding
the complexity of wisp.  My brief encounter with wisp suggested some
significant additions to bering!

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RE: [leaf-user] Double Private Network / FreeS/WAN problem

2002-06-22 Thread Eric B Kiser

Not a problem Phil. It just so happened that I worked through this issue
just recently, with much help from Tom and others.

As for your original question Jon... I went back and read through and
couldn't find what LEAF distro you are using.

Regards,
Eric

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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Double Private Network / FreeS/WAN problem



Hm, just for reference, my original problem was a machine behind a
masquerading firewall which was behind another masquerading firewall
(Charter cable).  Would NAT traversal work with that?
Thanks,
Jon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aha,  I stand corrected.
 SSH Sentinel and other IPSec clients for  Windows claim to have
 NAT traversal working, also the company that supplies
 IPSec to Cisco.

 At this time however, I believe NAT traversal is experimental or
 in development at FreeSWAN.

 I'll try to keep current.   Thanx.

 Eric B Kiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/21/2002 03:12:27 PM

 To:   Phillip Watts/austin/Nlynx@Nlynx
 cc:

 Subject:  RE: [leaf-user] Double Private Network / FreeS/WAN problem

 Whoa there,

 I am running a NAT'd client that connects via IPsec through my Bering
 Firewall everyday.

 NT4.0 box w/IPsec clnt  Bering doin NAT  Internet IPsec Server

 If you are running short term connection (establish tunnel, check mail,
tear
 down tunnel) you do not even need to modify shorewall. For maintaining
IPsec
 tunnels of longer duration Tom Eastep reccomended adding these rules.

 ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip udp 500 - all
 ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip 50  -   - all

 The problem that I am aware of is establishing more than one tunnel
through
 the NAT'd connection.

 Regards,
 Eric

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 1:41 PM
 To: Jonathan French
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Double Private Network / FreeS/WAN problem

 Without looking at this in any depth, it appears you are trying to
 ipsec from behind a NAT router and I don't believe that will work.
 Why will Charter not hand out a public address ?
 Maybe you should inquire.  Then you'd have to , if i'm right, not do nat
 on the Dlink.

 IPSec is, of course, they say, and are working on it,
 NATable, but it is really designed
 as a point to point tunnel, with subnets behind the endpoints.

 Jonathan French [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/21/2002 12:13:50 PM

 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Phillip Watts/austin/Nlynx)

 Subject:  [leaf-user] Double Private Network / FreeS/WAN problem

 Howdy,

 I've been setting up a VPN.  One of my clients has a Charter Pipeline
 internet connection at home, and wants to communicate with the LEAF box
 at his work via FreeS/WAN.  I got him a D-Link firewall box to stick
 between his cable modem and his computer as an added layer of security.
 Then I had him do a traceroute to www.yahoo.com so I could get his
 nexthop information to configure /etc/ipsec.conf.  From this file, I
 noted:

 1  192.168.0.1 {d-link box}
 2  10.d.e.f{Charter Pipeline gateway saving IP's!}
 3  24.205.g.h  {a real IP that can be pinged from the outside world}
 4  {and so forth to www.yahoo.com}

 So his network looks like:

 192.168.0.115 {internal machine address}
  |
  |
 192.168.0.1 {d-link internal address}
 10.a.b.c{d-link external address}
  |
  |
 10.d.e.f{Charter cable internal gateway}
 24.205.g.h  {Charter cable external gateway - pingable from outside}

 Charter Pipeline is apparently saving money by using IP masquerading
 themselves.  This leaves me with a problem defining right /
 rightnexthop / rightsubnet in /etc/ipsec.conf.  Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Jon

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RE: [leaf-user] Re: IPSec NAT

2002-06-18 Thread Eric B Kiser

Hi Jason,

Could you give a little more information about your setup and what it is
that you are trying to accomplish? Are you wanting to use the LEAF box to do
NAT and IPsec pass-through or something else? If you do just want
pass-through, then what is the nature of your tunnel? Up all day, used to
check mail at the company, business critical apps are surging across it
24/7.

I am sure that we can help out, we just need a little more information.

Regards,
Eric

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To: Jason Spence
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Subject: [leaf-user] Re: IPSec NAT


 Can Bering 1.0-rc3 NAT IPSec?  I see ipt_ah and ipt_esp modules in the
 distribution, but I'm not sure how I would get them to start NATting
 my IPSec boxen...
I have never tried this. Someone more familiar with IPSEC on the leaf-user
list might be able to answer that question.
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RE: [leaf-user] Bering rc2 + ppp server : anyone done this?

2002-06-14 Thread Eric B Kiser

Jon,

Could you offer up a link on this to help me get started. It would be
greatly appreciated.

Eric

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Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering rc2 + ppp server : anyone done this?



Actually, the instructions for 2.9.4 aren't too far off - I used what I
had set up 2.9.4/2.9.8, and copied the ppp.lrp and mgetty.lrp directly
to Dachstein.  The only real change was using the larger Dachstein
kernel that had serial support compiled in.  You will probably need to
find new modules (ppp.o, slhc.o).  I'd try the old pppd and mgetty to
see if they work, and if not use the same scripts but replace the
compiled parts (pppd and mgetty) with Bering versions..  Or, they might
work - don't know.

Good Luck,
Jon French

Matt Russell wrote:

 Just as the subject says, wondering if anyone has successfully setup a
 PPP server (single line) with bering rc2. Anyone know of a how-to URL?
 The only thing I could find was instructions for LRP 2.9.4, whose
 packages obviously won't work with bering.

 thanks,
 matt

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RE: [leaf-user] traffic load balancing (again) from a Dachstein box?

2002-06-14 Thread Eric B Kiser

Hi Alec,

There is no simple answer to the Load Balancing question. First you need to
tackle this...

http://www.leaf-project.org/pub/doc/howto/LRP-Load-Balancing-HOWTO.html

If you still have questions please submit them to the list.
Regards,
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I've got 2 Speakeasy DSL lines both on the same Subnet/Gateway.Are there
any FAQ/Quick links I can poke around at (that are up and running) that I
can use for attempting a traffic balancer from a Dachstein box?  OR should I
move to another release?

I've got a couple WWW servers I want to throw into my DMZ and I haven't
called SE yet to check if they will turn on their equipment for me to pull
this off.  I want to read up on this before I make any phone calls.

I saw a couple links posted previously in the list, but some of them seem to
be broken..


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RE: [leaf-user] OT: Origins of Bering and Dachstein names

2002-05-22 Thread Eric B Kiser

Scott,

Would you be kind enough to give some more details on the nature of your
deployments or even write something for the testimonials section?

Regards,
/eric

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Very OT...

It came up in conversation with some friends yesterday that we weren't clear
on the origin of the names for these two popular floppy/cd firewall
packages.  Maybe Charles and Jacques can fill us in on why they're called
Bering and Dachstein.  I can see -stein, but why Dach?  I'm probably missing
out on a principle of linguistics here.

BTW, I've been successfully deploying dachstein toasters all around the US.
I love it.

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[leaf-user] Gaming with Bering 1.0-rc2

2002-05-14 Thread Eric B Kiser

My son has been giving me a hard time since he has not been able to get his
Mech 4 fix ever since I set up my Bering box. Yes, I know that it is
supposed to be a terrible thing to open up a firewall for game play but a
balance must be realized.

By chance has anyone gone through the process of configuring Shorewall so
that you can play MechWarrior 4 on the Internet. I have been reading the
documentation and it states...

[/snip]

The following TCP ports must be open: 27999, 28805, 28806, 28807, 28808
The following UDP port must be open: 28800

and...

Connection  Client configurationHost configuration
Initial TCP Connection  47624 Outbound  47624 Inbound
Subsequent Inbound TCP Connections  2300-2400   2300-2400
Subsequent Outbound TCP Connections 2300-2400   2300-2400
Subsequent Inbound UDP Connections  2300-2400   2300-2400
Subsequent Outbound UDP Connections 2300-2400   2300-2400

[/end snip]

Unfortunately, the rules modification that I have made have not worked. If
someone would be kind enough to recommend a set of rules for this, it would
be much appreciated.


Regards,
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RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-05-03 Thread Eric B Kiser

Tom,

I am still a newbie here and I wanted to make sure that I understood what
you meant so here is where I am at on this.

What you suggested was this [1]:

ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip udp 500 - all
ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip 50  -   - all

I decided not to include the endpoint ip address because I wanted be able to
use any machine on my local network. So... I did this [2]:

ACCEPT net loc udp 500
ACCEPT net loc 50  all

Following your suggestion of how I can identify the difference I used the
command shorewall show net2loc. Below was my process:

ReBOOT with Rule [1] in place.
make ipsec connection
break ipsec connection
run shorewall show net2loc
record results (see [1] below)

modify shorewall config to use Rule [2]
backup config
ReBOOT with Rule [2] in place
make ipsec connection
break ipsec connection
run shorewall show net2loc
record results (see [2] below)

results from [1] this connection was only up for a couple of minutes.

# shorewall show net2loc
Shorewall-1.2.8 Chain net2loc at firewall - Thu May  2 15:42:01 UTC 2002

Chain net2loc (1 references)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination
   27  4277 ACCEPT all  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0  state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
0 0 ACCEPT udp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
192.168.1.10   state NEW udp dpt:500
188 ACCEPT esp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
192.168.1.10   state NEW
0 0 net2allall  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0

results from [2] this connection was up for 25 minutes.

# shorewall show net2loc
Shorewall-1.2.8 Chain net2loc at firewall - Thu May  2 16:12:20 UTC 2002

Chain net2loc (1 references)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination
 1331  156K ACCEPT all  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0  state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
0 0 ACCEPT udp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0  state NEW udp dpt:500
0 0 ACCEPT esp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0  state NEW
0 0 net2allall  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0

The only difference here are the esp (protocol: 50) packets that were
logged. Is this the difference that you were expecting me to find. I am not
in control of the other end. Would you typically expect that a rekeying
attempt would have been made in the 25 minutes that I had left the tunnel
up?

Thanks for your assistance thus far.

/Eric

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To: Eric B Kiser
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Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through


On Wed, 1 May 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 Since installing Bering 1.0-rc1 the only thing that I have changed in my
 shorewall config is adding the lines below. My understanding is that this
is
 not static since it is my single publicly routable address on one side and
I
 have three workstations using 192.168.1.x on the other side. Is static NAT
 the same as a 1:1 mapping?


Yes -- in that case, I doubt that the rules that you posted have any
effect. Most people using IPSEC have found that they also need incoming
rules that forward UDP 500 and protocol 50 to the endpoint (as I
recommended in a previous post).  Without such rules, the tunnel will
eventually die during a re-keying attempt.

Look at the output of shorewall show net2loc -- I'm betting that the
packet counts for those rules are zero.

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RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-05-03 Thread Eric B Kiser

Very interesting, Tom... Thanks for taking the time to get into more detail.

I have modified my rules back to your original suggestion, however, I still
have one question.

[snip]
In order for either of rules [2] to have been invoked, the ORIGINAL
destination IP would have had to have been in your local network; clearly
that is never going to be the case (my point from the last post). You may
as well remove the rules since they will never do anything.
[end snip]

These rules did do something. They made it possible for me to bring up the
tunnel. I understand the importance of doing it as per your example, I
changed my rules accordingly. If I understand you correctly, based on the
snip above, my rules shouldn't have worked at all?

Respectfully,
Eric

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To: Eric B Kiser
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Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through


On Fri, 3 May 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 What you suggested was this [1]:

 ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip udp 500 - all
 ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip 50  -   - all

 I decided not to include the endpoint ip address because I wanted be able
to
 use any machine on my local network. So... I did this [2]:

 ACCEPT net loc udp 500
 ACCEPT net loc 50  all

 results from [1] this connection was only up for a couple of minutes.

 # shorewall show net2loc
 Shorewall-1.2.8 Chain net2loc at firewall - Thu May  2 15:42:01 UTC 2002

 Chain net2loc (1 references)
  pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
 destination
27  4277 ACCEPT all  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 0.0.0.0/0  state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
 0 0 ACCEPT udp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 192.168.1.10   state NEW udp dpt:500
 188 ACCEPT esp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 192.168.1.10   state NEW
 0 0 net2allall  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 0.0.0.0/0

 results from [2] this connection was up for 25 minutes.

 # shorewall show net2loc
 Shorewall-1.2.8 Chain net2loc at firewall - Thu May  2 16:12:20 UTC 2002

 Chain net2loc (1 references)
  pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
 destination
  1331  156K ACCEPT all  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 0.0.0.0/0  state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
 0 0 ACCEPT udp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 0.0.0.0/0  state NEW udp dpt:500
 0 0 ACCEPT esp  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 0.0.0.0/0  state NEW
 0 0 net2allall  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
 0.0.0.0/0

 The only difference here are the esp (protocol: 50) packets that were
 logged. Is this the difference that you were expecting me to find. I am
not
 in control of the other end. Would you typically expect that a rekeying
 attempt would have been made in the 25 minutes that I had left the tunnel
 up?


Depends on how you have set the re-key interval for the tunnnel. Also,
remember that re-keying only involves the UDP connection. I no longer
have any IPSEC tunnels so I don't have immediate access to the docs to see
what the default interval is.

In order for either of rules [2] to have been invoked, the ORIGINAL
destination IP would have had to have been in your local network; clearly
that is never going to be the case (my point from the last post). You may
as well remove the rules since they will never do anything.

The basic problem is that IPSEC tunnels are quiet when there is no traffic
and the re-keying interval hasn't expired. In that time, the connection
tracking entries created when the local endpoint first sent packets to the
remote one will time out. Then, if a packet is received from the remote
end-point, the RELATED,ESTABLISHED rule (first Shorewall-generated rule in
both cases) won't match the incoming packet and the packet will be
rejected.

As long as the local endpoint speaks first after such a quiet time,
everything works -- otherwise, it may not.

By having rules [1], if the remote end sends a packet (either ESP or
UDP/500) and there is no matching connection-tracking entry, the
appropriate rule will:

a) Re-establish a connection tracking entry between the end-points for
that protocol[/port]; and
b) Route the packet to the appropriate local host.

If your tunnels are fairly busy when they are up and you have a short
re-key interval, you should be fine without any IPSEC-related rules. If
you leave these tunnels up overnight with no traffic, you will almost
certainly encounter problems.

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RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-05-03 Thread Eric B Kiser

Okie-dokie, here is my sanity check...

Establish IPsec connection  ...done
Tear down IPsec connection  ...done
Remove rules from config...done
save...done
backup  ...done
reboot  ...done
Establish IPsec connection  ...done ...what? ...it failed every other time!
urgh!

All has now been revealed... [sigh]. My misconception in this was based on
the belief that my rules actually were having an effect. This being due to
the fact that I was never able to bring the tunnel up prior to adding the
rules. In all fairness it had been quite a while since I had tried to
establish an ipsec connection through my Bering box and it now seems
entirely likely that their was something else in the path that was blocking
my connection. This something else seems to have been fixed thus I am now
able to make a connection without any trouble and without any extra rules. I
only tunnel in to check my mail and such then I take down the tunnel so in
all likelihood I would never even need Tom's extra rules. On the other hand
if I was attempting to maintain constant connectivity between my workstation
and the far end then I would possibly begin to see trouble because the rules
would not be in place to allow the other end to initiate a key exchange. I
realize that I am repeating things that Tom has already said, I just didn't
understand them before because I was /confused/.

Thanks Tom, your patience through this was much appreciated.

Regards,
Eric

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From: Tom Eastep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:39 AM
To: Eric B Kiser
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through


On Fri, 3 May 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 Very interesting, Tom... Thanks for taking the time to get into more
detail.

 I have modified my rules back to your original suggestion, however, I
still
 have one question.

 [snip]
 In order for either of rules [2] to have been invoked, the ORIGINAL
 destination IP would have had to have been in your local network; clearly
 that is never going to be the case (my point from the last post). You may
 as well remove the rules since they will never do anything.
 [end snip]

 These rules did do something. They made it possible for me to bring up
the
 tunnel. I understand the importance of doing it as per your example, I
 changed my rules accordingly. If I understand you correctly, based on the
 snip above, my rules shouldn't have worked at all?


No -- the two rules you added had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the outcome.

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RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-05-03 Thread Eric B Kiser

Good information, thanks for the insight.

/Eric

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Eric B Kiser
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through


On Fri, 3 May 2002, Tom Eastep wrote:

 
 No -- the two rules you added had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the outcome. 
 

To clarify -- since the packet and bytes counts for those two rules were 
zero after your second test, the rules could not have had any possible 
effect.

One other thing -- be very careful when performing back-to-back tests 
using Netfilter-based firewalls. The connection-tracking entries for most 
protocols (TCP being the exception) live on after the connection has been 
terminated. If you establish a similar connection before these tracking 
entries have expired, the entries can be reused (this is especially true 
of protocols that do not make use of ports or that use the same port 
number for source and destination). This can lead you to believe that your 
latest set of rules worked when in fact it did not. A shorewall 
restart does not clear the tracking table (it can't because there is no 
way way for it to do so).

There has been a lot of grumbling on the Netfilter mailing list about 
the lack of a means for removing connection-tracking entries. Until that 
grumbling results in a change though, caution is advised.

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RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-05-01 Thread Eric B Kiser

Tom, thanks for getting back to me so quickly yesterday.

I have success! I am using NAT and these rules...

ACCEPT  net loc udp 500
ACCEPT  net loc 50  all

Thanks for your help, works like a charm.
/Eric


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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:15 PM
To: Eric B Kiser
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through


On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 I have finally gotten the opportunity to test this out...

 I added these lines to the bottom /etc/shorewall/rules and I am still
unable
 to connect to my IPsec endpoint on the other side of my Bering box. These
 are the only modifications from the default install of Bering.

 ACCEPTnet loc udp 500
 ACCEPTloc net udp 500
 ACCEPTnet loc 50,51   all
 ACCEPTloc net 50,51   all

 Did I miss something?
 Put these in the wrong place?
 um ...?

Theww things:

a) If you are using NAT or Masquerade, you must use port forwarding rules
for net-loc.

b) In that case, you don't need to pass protocol 51 since ESP and NAT
don't mix.

c) The default Bering loc-net policy is ACCEPT so your loc-net rules are
just so much extra noise.

The port forward rules would look like:

ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip udp 500 - all
ACCEPT net loc:local endpoint ip 50  -   - all

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RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-05-01 Thread Eric B Kiser

Since installing Bering 1.0-rc1 the only thing that I have changed in my
shorewall config is adding the lines below. My understanding is that this is
not static since it is my single publicly routable address on one side and I
have three workstations using 192.168.1.x on the other side. Is static NAT
the same as a 1:1 mapping?

/Eric


-Original Message-
From: Tom Eastep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:55 AM
To: Eric B Kiser
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through


On Wed, 1 May 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:

 Tom, thanks for getting back to me so quickly yesterday.

 I have success! I am using NAT and these rules...

 ACCEPTnet loc udp 500
 ACCEPTnet loc 50  all

 Thanks for your help, works like a charm.
 /Eric


Eric,

You must be using static NAT then?

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[leaf-user] kernel 2.4.xl modules for IPsec pass-through when using NAT and netfilter/iptables

2002-04-30 Thread Eric B Kiser

All,

This is a follow up message for the post originally titled - ip_masq_ipsec.o
for Bering.

After communicating with three different sources on the Netfilter mailing
list here are the results.  There are /no/ additional modules required.
Below is a brief of the messages exchanged...

[my post]
 Howdy All,

 I am using Linux with kernel 2.4.18 as a firewall that is doing NAT. I
need
 to be able to make an IPSec connection _through_ this firewall to an IPSec
 server on the internet.

 I am told that I need to have the modules ip_conntrack_ipsec.o and
 ip_nat_ipsec.o for my Linux 2.4.18 Firewall to be able to NAT this
 connection. It was also mentioned that a Mr. Harald Welte may have posted
 these on the netfilter site.

 I have gone through the FAQ, browsed the HOWTO, and done some cursory
 searching of the mail archive with no helpful results. Any guidance on
this
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Regards,
 Eric

[reply]
Who has told you about this?  The modules don't exist, at least not
provided by the netfilter/iptables project.

I also haven't heared that some 3rd party is providing those modules
--
Live long and prosper
- Harald Welte / [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[my post]
 Are there any required modifications, other than just /not/ restricting
the
 required ports, to be able to pass IPsec traffic when using your Linux
 system as a router and performing NAT.

[response from Julian Gomez]
Nope. Let IKE + ESP/AH traffic through. That's it.

[interesting test results from Pavlos]
I did some testes last week and i found out that one VPN client behind the
gateway
can connect with the vpn server but two not!
My vpn client use IPSEC with udp protocol nad 500 port ,and protocol 50.
From ip_conntrack i saw that when 2 clients tried to connect to the VPN
server
only the one hava established connection for protocol 50,the second only had
traffic for udp
protocol udp and port 500.

PAvlos

Thanks to everybody for spurring me into this.

/Eric


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[leaf-user] Testing IPsec pass-through

2002-04-30 Thread Eric B Kiser

I have finally gotten the opportunity to test this out...

I added these lines to the bottom /etc/shorewall/rules and I am still unable
to connect to my IPsec endpoint on the other side of my Bering box. These
are the only modifications from the default install of Bering.

ACCEPT  net loc udp 500
ACCEPT  loc net udp 500
ACCEPT  net loc 50,51   all
ACCEPT  loc net 50,51   all

Did I miss something?
Put these in the wrong place?
um ...?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
/Eric





[Leaf-user] RE: [Leaf-devel] Bering v1.0-rc2 available

2002-04-25 Thread Eric B Kiser

We got serial support in the kernel!!! All right!

Thanks Guys,
Eric



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jacques Nilo
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: shorewall-users
Subject: [Leaf-devel] Bering v1.0-rc2 available


This new release includes, among other things, ipsec and pptp support.
Also updated with latest 1.2.12 Shorewall and iptables 1.2.6a
The documentation has been considerably extended
Thanks to all the folks who helped us on this release !
The details are here:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/article.php?sid=37

Jacques  Eric

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo


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RE: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

2002-04-24 Thread Eric B Kiser

Thanks for Dachstein suggestion (and, yes, Charles is amazingly patient and
helpful) but I have to stick with Bering due to other requirements that I
have set on myself. Specifically, the desire to learn iptables. If I end up
having to figure out how to compile my own kernel then so it has to be. For
the moment, however, I will go to the source...

Mr. Nilo and Mr. Wolzak, how do you feel about including these patches into
the Bering distribution. If this is feasible then could we expect it in the
rc2 release?

Awaiting your response,
Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering


On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 00:27:23 -0400
Eric B Kiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 damn... I have just been sitting here staring at my monitor while the
 reality of what I am trying to do has dawned on me. When Tom pointed me
 in the direction of the files ip_conntrack_ipsec.o and ip_nat_ipsec.o I
 began searching for them under the assumption that I would just load
 them like any other module. After reading your reply things suddenly
 came more into focus. If I understand this correctly, then what I am
 actually looking for is a patch that will make these options available
 for when I have to recompile the kernel. At which time, I can then
 select to either compile them as modules or to compile them directly
 into the kernel.

 Thanks Joey, for the offer of assistance. Any and all help would be
 graciously received. I am still a newbie here so if someone would be
 kind enough to either confirm or deny my assumptions about how to go
 about this I would appreciate it.

Your assumptions are correct.  As Tom said, the only ip_conntrack and
ip_nat (formerly ip_masq) modules available in the default kernel
sources are ftp and irc.  Any others will need to be applied to your
kernel sources as a patch (I believe Tom pointed you at the netfilter site
before), then configure your kernel to build those new options as modules
and build it.

http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//netfilter-extensions-HOWTO.txt

As far as I have seen, Bering does not include any non-standard netfilter
modules.  But, since Bering and Dachstein seem to be gaining some
popularity for ipsec-based systems, it never hurts to ask Jacques whether
he can patch his kernel with these.  Well, it won't hurt you anyways (eh,
Jacques!) ;-)

HTH,
Chad


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[Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

2002-04-23 Thread Eric B Kiser

Hello All,

I need to be able to make an IPSec connection through my Bering 1.0-rc1
firewall. If I understand correctly I will need the ip_masq_ipsec.o module
to be able to do this. I have been unable to find the ip_masq_ipsec.o for
Bering. I have already searched through all of the files in the modules
section online and did not come across it. Is it already compiled in to the
kernel or is it somewhere else or have I just missed it?

Thanks in advance,

Eric


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RE: [Leaf-user] Compact Flash

2002-04-23 Thread Eric B Kiser

Here are some more links that might help you out...

_Flash Memory_
www.pcengines.com/cflash.htm
--Compact Flash to IDE converter (Internal Interface)
www.abiatech.com/fb4617.htm
--Compact Flash to IDE converter (External Interface)
www.sandisk.com/main.htm
--I found their prices to be surprisingly reasonable.
www.flashmemory.com.au
--Memory and more
www.psism.com/psiiia.htm
--CF to IDE converter that mounts in an external drive bay for 
easy
access.
Good Luck,
Eric


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RE: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

2002-04-23 Thread Eric B Kiser

Joey,

Thanks for the quick reply. Here is what I am looking at...

[1] I have to use IPSec client software on an NT4.0 machine from inside my
network to make a connection to the company firewall/IPSec server to be able
to gain remote access into my company. Since we are unable to do both
pass-through and termination I am forced to set this box up to do
pass-through only.

[2] I am planning on setting up a second box inside my network to act as an
IPSec server so that I can connect to my lab while on the road.

I hope this helped to explain it a little better.

Regards,
Eric

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:54 PM
To: Eric B Kiser; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering


Are you sure that you need the ip_masq_ipsec.o file.  I think that this is
only needed if you have an internal ipsec server.  In my case I run the
ipsec server (I'm sure as does everyone else) on the actual gateway server /
leaf server...

Joey


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Subject: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

Hello All,

I need to be able to make an IPSec connection through my Bering 1.0-rc1
firewall. If I understand correctly I will need the ip_masq_ipsec.o module
to be able to do this. I have been unable to find the ip_masq_ipsec.o for
Bering. I have already searched through all of the files in the modules
section online and did not come across it. Is it already compiled in to the
kernel or is it somewhere else or have I just missed it?

Thanks in advance,

Eric


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RE: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

2002-04-23 Thread Eric B Kiser

damn... I have just been sitting here staring at my monitor while the
reality of what I am trying to do has dawned on me. When Tom pointed me in
the direction of the files ip_conntrack_ipsec.o and ip_nat_ipsec.o I began
searching for them under the assumption that I would just load them like any
other module. After reading your reply things suddenly came more into focus.
If I understand this correctly, then what I am actually looking for is a
patch that will make these options available for when I have to recompile
the kernel. At which time, I can then select to either compile them as
modules or to compile them directly into the kernel.

Thanks Joey, for the offer of assistance. Any and all help would be
graciously received. I am still a newbie here so if someone would be kind
enough to either confirm or deny my assumptions about how to go about this I
would appreciate it.

Respectfully,
Eric


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:05 PM
To: Eric B Kiser
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering


ahh.. I think I understand know.. so you need to have the packets
passed through on the home machine so that you can make the connection
to work.  I understand now.

There was another post earlier that mentioned the nameing difference
for the Bering ipsec.o files.  You might look there.  I'm not familiar
at all w/ Bering, but I'll be glad to assist you by looking as well,
and if necessary, maybe I or someone else can compile this for you.


joey

At Tuesday, 23 April 2002, Eric B Kiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Joey,

Thanks for the quick reply. Here is what I am looking at...

[1] I have to use IPSec client software on an NT4.0 machine from
inside my
network to make a connection to the company firewall/IPSec server
to be able
to gain remote access into my company. Since we are unable to do both
pass-through and termination I am forced to set this box up to do
pass-through only.

[2] I am planning on setting up a second box inside my network to
act as an
IPSec server so that I can connect to my lab while on the road.

I hope this helped to explain it a little better.

Regards,
Eric

-Original Message-
From: Joey Officer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:54 PM
To: Eric B Kiser; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

Are you sure that you need the ip_masq_ipsec.o file.  I think that
this is
only needed if you have an internal ipsec server.  In my case I run the
ipsec server (I'm sure as does everyone else) on the actual gateway
server /
leaf server...

Joey

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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:27 PM
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Subject: [Leaf-user] ip_masq_ipsec.o for bering

Hello All,

I need to be able to make an IPSec connection through my Bering 1.0-rc1
firewall. If I understand correctly I will need the ip_masq_ipsec.
o module
to be able to do this. I have been unable to find the ip_masq_ipsec.
o for
Bering. I have already searched through all of the files in the modules
section online and did not come across it. Is it already compiled
in to the
kernel or is it somewhere else or have I just missed it?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

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RE: [Leaf-user] Floppy VPN (Dachstein based)

2002-04-16 Thread Eric B Kiser


Very interesting... thanks for the insight, Charles.

Eric

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 I have seen this mentioned before. Why is it that it can't do both pass
 through and termination. Is this specific to Dachstein or Linux or ???

The IPSec VPN limitation (a single machine can masquerade IPSec, or run
IPSec locally, but not both) is a limitation of the way IPSec masquerading
and KLIPS (Kernel Level IPSec...the kernel portion of the FreeS/WAN IPSec
implementation) are implemented in the kernel.

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-user] serial console access

2002-04-15 Thread Eric B Kiser

got called out of town so this response is a bit delayed...

[Joey-snip]
Not to sound impolite... but there is currently I HOW-TO already available,
linked below...  I know the excitement though of getting this particular
project working
[/snip]

Not impolite at all. The only reason that I suggested it is because there
are some _minor_ changes between the Dachstein HOW-TO and the one that would
need to be written for Bering. Such as the affect of not having serial
compiled in the kernel. I have, however, decided to wait until rc2 comes
out. If Jacques decides to include it in the kernel then it would make a
rewrite virtually pointless.

[Chad-snip]
I am wondering when you say success what you really mean. I can copy the
same results as you from my minicom window (i.e. the boot happens and I can
log in) but there is one large thing missing: boot messages.
[/snip]

Success, at this time, was to simply get access [1]. Having the serial
module compiled into the kernel, thus allowing the reception of the kernel
boot messages will be step two [2]. For me, step three [3] will be moving to
a serial accessible bios that will let me see the hardware post.

[Jacques-Snip]
Bering v1.0-rc1 does not have serial compiled in the kernel. This seems
necessary to have serial console access. I am considering to have serial
compiled in v1.0-rc2 for that reason. Any comment from the list on that
issue?
[/snip]

Based on the above statement Mr. Nilo is awaiting feedback from us to
determine whether the serial module will be compiled in. I would like to ask
that everyone who wants it to please be sure and hit the list with that
request so that the Bering team is aware of our interest. Here is mine...

Bering Team, please compile the serial module into the kernel for the rc2
release. It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to everyone for their work on this. Once again proving that the LEAF
project is greater than the sum of its parts.

Respectfully,
Eric


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RE: [Leaf-user] Floppy VPN (Dachstein based)

2002-04-15 Thread Eric B Kiser

Charles,

I have seen this mentioned before. Why is it that it can't do both pass
through and termination. Is this specific to Dachstein or Linux or ???

Regards,
Eric


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Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Floppy VPN (Dachstein based)


 I have a Dachstein box that does NAT and port forwarding for my network. I
 would now like to implement a VPN. I replaced the kernel with an IPSEC
 enabled one, and loaded the needed modules. I have the box able to boot
 and still NATing and port forwarding but get error messages. I do not have
 the exact messages, but would like to know if what I would like to do is
 possible. If it is I will post the exact messages.
 What I would like is for one LEAF  box to:

 NAT
 Port Forward
 Endpoint of a VPN tunnel

 Please advise if this is possible.

Yes, you can do what you want.  The only restraint on VPN's and
port-forwarding is the firewall cannot masquerade an internal VPN client (ie
running a VPN client on an internal system...sometimes called VPN
port-forwarding) at the same time the firewall is serving as a VPN gateway
(ie running VPN software on the firewall itself).

There are many folks running the standard NAT/masquerading firewall rules,
and port forwarding services (like web, dns, e-mail, c), and using the
firewall as an IPSec VPN gateway.

Charles Steinkuehler
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RE: [Leaf-user] serial console access

2002-04-15 Thread Eric B Kiser

Jacques,

Ah, well, such is life... I was unaware of being able to use dmesg to get
the same information. I will experiment with this and see if it fits my
need.

Thanks for the quick reply,

Eric

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From: leaf [mailto:leaf]On Behalf Of Jacques Nilo
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:47 PM
To: Eric B Kiser
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Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] serial console access


Eric B Kiser wrote:

 [Jacques-Snip]
 Bering v1.0-rc1 does not have serial compiled in the kernel. This seems
 necessary to have serial console access. I am considering to have serial
 compiled in v1.0-rc2 for that reason. Any comment from the list on that
 issue?
 [/snip]

 Based on the above statement Mr. Nilo is awaiting feedback from us to
 determine whether the serial module will be compiled in. I would like to
ask
 that everyone who wants it to please be sure and hit the list with that
 request so that the Bering team is aware of our interest. Here is mine...

 Bering Team, please compile the serial module into the kernel for the rc2
 release. It would be greatly appreciated.

Eric:
I am afraid I am going to disappoint you. I have been thinking about
this issue and the only usage I see for serial built into the kernel is
the ability to see the kernel logging messages on your serial terminal.
Everything else can be done by putting the serial.o in /boot/lib/modules
Once logged in the kernel logging messages can then be seen with dmesg
Also you won't generally start directly with a console-only monitoring.
You will generally setup your floppy to configure it on a normal
machine and at the very end switch to console monitoring facility.
Finally the cost of serial on the kernel is 10K. Quite significant from
a floppy point of vue.
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RE: [Leaf-user] serial console access

2002-04-04 Thread Eric B Kiser


heh! [grin/sigh]

The 'ol not found portion of that message seems devastatingly obvious to
me now. Thanks for being so polite in pointing that out.

I did as you suggested:

/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100

and after hanging for a couple of seconds I then got my prompt back. Before
I go any further this way I am going to follow up on the issues surrounding
serial.o and recheck my configuration.

Respectfully,
Eric



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Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] serial console access


 Charles,
 As you suggested I typed in the line below at a command prompt:

 T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100

 ...and got this response:

 T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty: not found

 I assume, that as we have discovered, this is being caused by the absence
of
 serial support in the kernel. If not and I am missing something else
please
 let me know.

Actually, you need to type:
/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100

The T0:23:respawn: is part of the init configuration, not part of the
getty command...

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RE: [Leaf-user] serial console access

2002-04-04 Thread Eric B Kiser

_SUCCESS_

The results as copied from my hyperterm window..

  LEAF configuration menu


1 ) Network configuration

2 ) System configuration

3 ) Packages configuration

b) Back-up a package

c) Back-up your LEAF disk

h) Help
  q) quit
  --
--
Selection:


You guys have been incredibly helpful. Thanks to everyone. I have to leave
town now but when I get back I will write up a HOW-TO for others to follow.

Best Regards to All,

Eric Kiser



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[Leaf-user] serial.lrp

2002-04-03 Thread Eric B Kiser


Howdy All,

I have been unable to locate the serial.lrp package. If some one could
please offer a pointer in the right direction it would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Eric


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[Leaf-user] serial console access

2002-04-03 Thread Eric B Kiser


After some discussion with Larry I am resubmitting this question to the list
with more information and a more fitting title.

_system_
Bering v1.0-rc1

_task_
I want to implement serial console access to my firewall.

_resources_
LRP-Serial-HOWTO written by Charles.

_questions_
Do I need to load the serial.o module?
If so, where is it located? (I was unable to locate it when I was searching
through the site.)
It was suggested that setserial would be useful for this. Where can I find
information on this?
If this has been on the list already, my search missed it.
Barring all of this is the LRP-Serial-HOWTO all that I will need?
or...
If no one has done this I will feel my way through it and report back what I
come up with.

Regards,
Eric


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RE: [Leaf-user] serial.lrp

2002-04-03 Thread Eric B Kiser

Jeff,

Thanks for the reply. I have read the LRP-Serial-HOWTO written by Charles
and I have messed around with Serge's Packet Filter which asks, shortly
after boot time, whether you want to use your monitor and keyboard or the
serial port. Somehow, in amidst these two things and remembering various
emails that I had seen on the topic, I made the assumption that there
existed a magical serial.lrp that I would need for this purpose. I now
have that cleared up thanks to an off line conversation with Larry and have
reposted my original question with more information. Subject: serial console
access.

You have already answered one of my questions. Now I understand why I was
unable to find serial.o.

Thanks,
Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] serial.lrp


On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Eric B Kiser wrote:


 Howdy All,

 I have been unable to locate the serial.lrp package. If some one could
 please offer a pointer in the right direction it would be greatly
 appreciated.

I don't know what a serial.lrp package would contain.

You may be confused between packages and modules... modules are loadable
kernel drivers, while packages usually contain application
programs.  There is one package, modules.lrp, that you typically
customize for your system by putting appropriate modules in it.

Note that many (if not most) LEAF kernels have compiled-in serial support,
so the use of the loadable version of the driver (serial.o) is not very
common.

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RE: [Leaf-user] serial console access

2002-04-03 Thread Eric B Kiser

Charles,

Thanks for the response. Here is where I am so far...

[1] modified /etc/inittab so that my serial terminal line looks like this:
T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
also, I did verify that the serial port is set for com1

[2] added ttyS0 as the first entry on the list in /etc/securetty

[3] backed up /etc

[4] rebooted

[5] didn't get anything on the terminal but I did start getting the message
below on my leaf box:

INIT: Id T0 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

The above message repeats itself about very 5 minutes... Any ideas as too
what this may mean would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:13 PM
To: Eric B Kiser; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] serial console access


 _system_
 Bering v1.0-rc1

 _task_
 I want to implement serial console access to my firewall.

 _resources_
 LRP-Serial-HOWTO written by Charles.

 _questions_
 Do I need to load the serial.o module?

Depends on your kernel.  Try adding the following to your kernel command
line (typically the syslinux append line):

console=ttyS0,9600n8

 If so, where is it located? (I was unable to locate it when I was
searching
 through the site.)

It would be with the kernel modules...typically in the misc directory.

 It was suggested that setserial would be useful for this. Where can I find
 information on this?

One of the linux online man page or HOWTO sites.  You probably won't need
setserial if you're using a standard serial port, and have serial support
compiled into the kernel.  You can set baud rate and such with the kernel
command line switch, and by passing parameters to your getty program.

 If this has been on the list already, my search missed it.
 Barring all of this is the LRP-Serial-HOWTO all that I will need?
 or...
 If no one has done this I will feel my way through it and report back what
I
 come up with.

My Serial HOWTO will get you started, but that was written for Materhorn,
and a 2.2 series kernel...there may be a few tweaks required for running
on Bering with a 2.4 kernel.  Keep us posted...

Charles Steinkuehler
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[Leaf-user] zebra.lrp based on zebra 0.92a

2002-04-03 Thread Eric B Kiser


Been searching through the site for the zebra.lrp package based on zebra
version 0.92a. I could swear that I remember an announcement on the leaf
home page that said that it was available. If anyone can provide a pointer I
would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Eric


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RE: [Leaf-user] Leaf Speed and workload

2002-03-26 Thread Eric B Kiser


Maybe this will help. I stole this snip from an email on the zebra mailing
list.

[begin_snip/]
this box is a PIII 733Mhz with 256M ram.

Detected 731.483 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1458.17 BogoMIPS
Memory: 255024k/262080k available (1286k kernel code, 6668k reserved, 458k
data, 312k init, 0k highmem)

Interfaces in use are as follows:

2 - Fore/Marconi LE155 OC3 ATM NICs
2 - NetGear GA620 Gigabit Ethernet NICs
1 - Intel Ethernet Pro 100 Fast Ethernet NIC

The box is running the 2.4.x kernel
[/end_snip]

The owner of the above box has maintained in the past that he has not seen
any throughput problems.

hope this help,
Eric



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Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Leaf Speed and workload


 For Charles S.  Could you please tell me (if you know) the cpu's cache
 size and the amount of memory in the Athlon machine.

Um...which athlon machine?  All my LEAF systems are currently running on
pretty dated Pentium-1 class systems.

 For everyone  Would a dual cpu system (AMD or Intel) increase the
 usability of a firewall/router box?

Probably, although you'll need to migrate to a system based on the 2.4
kernel to see much improvement in networking performance.  Most of the
networking code in 2.2 kernels isn't multi-processor aware/capable.

 How about when running Intruder detection or IPsec? Is it feasible to
 use a lrp box as a border gateway router, either internal or external?

It's quite feasible to use LRP/LEAF boxes as a border gateway
router...that's how most LEAF boxes are used.  For use as an internal
router, you'll have to decide if the performance is high enough for your
needs.  You'll need fast hardware to route multiple 100MBit ethernet
segments at full speed, and I'm not sure you could get wire-speed Giga-bit
ethernet even with fast hardware...at the least, you'll want fast/wide PCI,
and preferrably multiple fast/wide PCI or PCI-X busses, if you're really
trying to route at Giga-bit speeds.

Charles Steinkuehler
http://lrp.steinkuehler.net
http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror)


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RE: SUMMARY?: [Leaf-user] newbie question (Bering/2.4/IDE)

2002-02-28 Thread Eric B Kiser

Good Work Man, keep up the fight.

I am currently still in the planning stages of doing my own strip down and
kernel recompile of Bering. I have been watching your mail exchanges and
your success has been an inspiration. Thanks for the follow up post.

Eric

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Subject: SUMMARY?: [Leaf-user] newbie question (Bering/2.4/IDE)


Whew! today was an adventure...I decided that I wanted to try to compile all
the modules that I need/use into my own 2.4 kernel (ide, eepro, pci, etc).

I grabbed the latest kernel source, put it on my old, rusty Pentium Pro
200/redhat 6.2 box, and followed the instructions in the readme (spent a
while updating gcc and other packages that were a bit out-of-date in my
distro).

I used the bering.config as my starting point, and started changing m's,
y's, and n's as appropriate and copied it as .config in the dir I untarred
the kernel stuff in.  I ran make oldconfig and make dep, made a bzImage,
copied it to the HD of my router as linux, etc...several hours and a few
passes of syslinux later, I managed to get 2.4 to boot from the HD without
having to include modules.lrp.  Next up is some more slimming...

I am a very happy man.  If I can get the perl package to load successfully,
I'll be a very happy man (and I'll work on getting a configuration utility
I've been writing in perl to go).

I want to thank everyone who responded...I may not follow everyones advice,
but seeing the suggestions that people had made it easier for me to decide
what road to travel.  If I come up with any useful utilities, I'll be sure
to let everybody in on it.


-Original Message-
From: Brad Fritz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:41 AM
To: Adrian Stovall
Cc: LEAF (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] newbie question (Bering/2.4/IDE)



On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:48:09 CST Adrian wrote:

 Hi all...I had successfully finished a previous install with a 2.2.19-IDE
 kernel and run from a small IDE HD.

Cool.

 What I would like to do is repeat this with a 2.4 kernel (currently
messing
 around with Bering Beta4...no probs running from floppy).  What do I need
to
 do to make this run from a hard drive?

 I'm hoping for something other than compile a 2.4 kernel with IDE support
 enabled, but I'll try to if I have no choice (severe lack of experience
 with compiling a kernel on my own).

Compiling a 2.4 kernel with IDE support using Jacques' kernel
config [1] as a starting point shouldn't be too bad.  For an
alternative solution, read on...

 Is there a 2.4-IDE kernel out there?  Am I stupid, and there's some simple
 config option to make the Bering 2.4 kernel boot from my HD?

I recently setup Bering (beta 3) on a compact flash card plugged
into an CF-to-IDE adaptor.  I use the stock kernel with with the
IDE modules loaded via the initrd image.  This isn't necessarily
easier than recompiling the kernel, but if you *really* want to
avoid re-compiling the kernel, the procedure below should work.

Disclaimer:
This is mostly from memory, so there may be a few mistakes.  I am
also assuming the hard disk is /dev/hdc and is temporarily
installed in a full-blown Linux system for installation of Bering.

  1. Format a partition of your HDD with an MS-DOS filesystem
 as described in Charles' LRP Hard Disk HOTWO [2] or with
 the Linux fdisk and mkfs.msdos commands [3].

  2. Mount a copy of the Bering image somewhere convenient:

   mount -o loop /tmp/bering-1680-b4.bin /mnt/disk/

  3. Uncompress a copy of the Bering initrd.lrp:

   gunzip -c  /mnt/disk/initrd.lrp  /tmp/initrd

  4. Mount the uncompressed ramdisk image:

   mount -o loop /tmp/initrd /mnt/initrd

  5. Copy the ide-disk.o, ide-mod.o, and ide-probe-mod.o modules
 from the ide directory of Jacques' modules directory [4] to
 the mounted initrd image:

   cp /tmp/ide-disk.o /tmp/ide-mod.o /tmp/ide-probe-mod.o \
  /mnt/initrd/boot/lib/modules/

  6. Add lines to boot/etc/modules of the initrd image to load
 the ide modules:

   echo ide-mod/mnt/initrd/boot/etc/modules
   echo ide-disk   /mnt/initrd/boot/etc/modules
   echo ide-probe-mod  /mnt/initrd/boot/etc/modules

  7. Unmount the initrd image:

   umount /mnt/initrd

  8. Mount the MS-DOS partition you created on the hard drive:

   mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/newdisk

  9. Copy all files from the Bering image to the new disk:

   cp /mnt/disk/* /mnt/newdisk

 10. Replace the old initrd.lrp with the new one:

   gzip -9  /tmp/initrd  /mnt/newdisk/initrd.lrp

 11. Edit syslinux.cfg on the new disk and change the fd0u1680
 references to hdc1.

 12. Unmount the hard drive:
   umount /mnt/newdisk

 13. Run syslinux on the hard drive partition:

   syslinux /dev/hdc1

 14. Cross your fingers and try to boot 

[Leaf-user] Having trouble finding what I am looking for...

2002-02-13 Thread Eric B Kiser

Hello LEAF List,

I have been keeping up with all of the lists for quite some time and have
been doing a considerable amount of research on the LEAF site, yet I am
either not finding what I am looking for or I am still shamelessly confused.
First, I will detail what I am trying to accomplish then I will attempt to
list my questions in some semblance of order. I am still a, relatively, new
user of Linux. Your patience is appreciated...

Below is the foundation that I need for my project:

2.4.x kernel
iproute2
iptables
ipv4 and ipv6
gnu zebra
openssh
frees/wan

On with the questions...

1) Is their currently a LEAF distro using the 2.4.x kernel and glibc 2.1.3?

2) I was looking at Bering until I realized that it was using glibc 2.0.x
and then I found that it also did not have all of the kernel features that I
wanted. I have not been able to find the page with that information again.
Could someone provide me with a pointer to that page?

3) If their is a distro that I want to use but want to replace the kernel
with my own is it as simple as compile kernel, apply patches, copy to disk
as linux?

4) David Douthitt had stated that the LRP patches were no longer needed in
some situations. It was my understanding that they were what made LRP what
it was and were the foundation of LEAF. If someone could explain this I
would greatly appreciate it.

5) Does the version of glibc on your machine have an affect when compiling
the kernel?

6) I have a computer that I have set aside as a development station. In the
Developing for LRP How-To, Debian Slink was recommended, however, I have
been unsuccessful in finding it. Also recommended was Red Hat 6.0. Are all
of the Red Hat 6.x versions able to be used for my purposes (glibc 2.1.3) or
is their a particular one that I should use (6.0 versus 6.2)?

I guess that is probably enough for now. I am sure that I will have more
later.

Thank you in advance and best regards.

Eric Kiser


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