RE: [LegacyUG] FW: unable to add repositories in research guidance

[John D. Taylor III]

Yes, I want to be able to attach ancestry.com or any other web address that
I find a book or books that were recommended by the research database that
dosen't have the location listed where I actually found the book.

John

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RICHARD
SCHULTHIES
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: unable to add repositories in research
guidance


You can add any repository you want. Go to View - Master List - Addresses -
Repository, or did you want to upload that into your reasearch guildance DB?
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
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Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 1:45:46 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: unable to add repositories in research guidance






When using research guidance, i.e., preliminary survey,-local histories
there are many books that are recommended to research.  I have found that
more often than not some of these books give a reference to look in either
world cat, or family history Library... which means I have to order the book
through my local library in order to get the information,-that's fine, and I
appreciate the suggestion, which I will do if I can't find the information
on the Web.  Nevertheless, many times, I have found some of the books that
are referenced only to where I can order them, are located online at,
ancestry.com, heritage quest, Google books, and so forth. I realize that
there is no way legacy or anyone else can keep up with all the books that
are added on line and put them in the repositories as they become Available
on the web.  So, I looked for a way that I can enter the repository where I
found the book online so that I go to the online source where I found it the
last time if it comes up again while doing research on another person.

My question is, - is there some way that I can add my own repository to the
repositories already in the research guidance Center?  If not, is this
feature planned for the future?  If not, could you please include it.

Thanks
John




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Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?

[JD Liddil]

Despite what the Legacy Manual says form M$ themselves;

System requirements for Live Search Maps
Live Search Maps in 2D mode requires Microsoft Internet Explorer 6,
Internet Explorer 7, or Mozilla Firefox 2.0.

->Virtual Earth 3D (Beta) requires the following:

Windows XP with SP2, Windows Server 2003, or Windows Vista
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0
Windows Imaging Component

->The 32-bit or 64-bit version of Internet Explorer 6, Internet
Explorer 7, or Firefox 2.0

250 MB or more of hard disk space
A 1.0-gigahertz (GHz) processor (2.8 GHz or faster is recommended)
256 MB of system memory (1 GB is recommended)
A 32-MB video card (256 MB is recommended) that supports Microsoft
DirectX 9, with 3D hardware acceleration enabled
A high-speed or broadband Internet connection


2D maps work fine on my IE6 machine in the browser. I don't have
Legacy on this machine to test it directly.  So if Legacy requires IE7
it is a Millenia thing as M$ says you can use IE6 even in the SDK
help.

JD

On 6/8/08, Art Seddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is Microsoft even doing security updates for IE6?
>
> Art Seddon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Templeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] new FamilySearch integration?
>
>
> You cannot have IE6 and IE7 at the same time, however I think there IS
> potentially at least one workaround for you. I am 97% sure you can dual boot
> the same version of Windows. This is a bit complex so only someone who knows
> what they are doing should attempt it.
>
> 1. Resize the existing partition on your hard driver and create another
> partition (using Partition Magic or free alternatives). Assign it a drive
> letter higher than what is currently used for any CD/DVD drives and optional
> flash drives, card readers, etc
> 2. Install a second copy of Windows on that partition, and update it to IE7.
> 3. Install a second copy of Legacy on that partition, but point it to the
> data and multimedia files on the "C" drive.
>
> Make your current Windows installation the default, but whenever you really,
> really need to use the mapping feature or anything else that may call for
> IE7, simply reboot and choose the other Windows version. When you finish,
> reboot back to the default Windows version. Both copies of Legacy should be
> able to access the same data file, keeping everything current.
>
> Beyond that, your other options are to either do without those *few* Legacy
> features that need IE7, or to complain to the developers of your *other*
> software, who are choosing to force you into using an obsolete browser. IE7
> is over a year and a half old now. Legacy has stayed current and it seems to
> me the other companies have had plenty of time to create their own updates
> so you would not have any conflicts.
>
> Legacy had to make some decisions, and their code was written based on those
> decisions. It is extremely unlikely they are either able or willing to
> backtrack. So, like trying to get an umpire to change a call, continued
> complaining by a few people on the list is going nowhere.
>
> Gary Templeman
>
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> >I don't think IE 6 (which is required for my home job) can be installed at
> >the same time as IE 7.  I wish it were possible (or maybe I don't)
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Deluxe - Restore Multimedia Files - problem

[ronald ferguson]

Pauline,

Because of the long delays on LUG, I am replying direct and copying to LUG.

I guess the reason for the lack of response it that not many of us use the 
multimedia back-up, preferring to back-up the image files etc. as normal.

If you follow the recommended procedure for installing Legacy 7 installing in 
C:\Legacy or, if you do not use this default, in the same location as you have 
Legacy 6 then you will not have a problem. In other words just as you would 
with an update. All your data files should be unaffected and there is no need 
to use restore.

To be extra safe you could put your back-up on a flash drive (I always have my 
current one there anyhow) just in case - but you shouldn't need it


Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:43:11 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Deluxe - Restore Multimedia Files - problem
>
> The message describing a problem with V7 Deluxe not restoring multimedia
> backup was posted by KathyB over 48 hours ago, but I have not yet seen
> anyone address the problem.
> This is scary. Is this a known bug? Has anyone looked at her message
> and investigated the problem?
> I have had the capability to download v7 for five days, but I am waiting
> to see a resolution to this problem.
>
> Pauline
>
> KathyB wrote:
>> Have Version 7 and thought I'd try out the backup and restore function
>> of the program since I have a new laptop that I want to put the
>> program and files on.
>>
>> I was able to successfully back-up the family file and the multimedia
>> files on my main computer, put them on a flash drive, then downloaded
>> and installed Legacy V7 Deluxe. I then did the restore function - BUT
>> it only restored the family file itself, and not the multimedia files.
>>
>> The "help" file says :
>> 1. Choose Restore Family File... from the File menu. The Select a
>> Family File or Multimedia Backup to Restore dialog appears.
>>> From the Restore Location dialog box, specify the drive and directory
>>> where
>> you want the restored Family File or Multimedia files placed.
>>
>> So, I did that, but it only restored the family file. If I try it
>> again, and this time select the multimedia file to restore, it tells
>> me there is no family file in that file to restore.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Kathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Intrigration

[Momalot66]

It seems that new.familysearch will not yet be  integrated with Legacy 7, but 
will come along with an update when it is  ready.  That what I've gotten from 
the other LUG entries.  I'm anxious  too.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Murrieta, CA 
Riverside County!!!

In a  message dated 6/10/2008 9:32:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
Hello, Out of interest, what do you all mean by Legacy not  being
intrigated with the nFS ?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Legacy Charting not found

[JLB]

Yes, I also have this issue.  I believe the Standard version and Deluxe 
versions are the same as far as installations go, the only difference 
being that your customer number unlocks the deluxe features.  
Re-installing did not help me in any case.  Still got the same message.  
The workaround is to go into the Legacy Charting folder (because it IS 
installed regardless of what the message says) and make a shortcut to 
the desktop.


JL

smuggler wrote:

Hello

I have installed Legacy 7 without issue.  I am delighted with the program
(thank you Legacy) and have been working on sources since I downloaded.  I
have just tried to open Legacy Charting and received the following message.

Legacy Charting could not be found and therefore could not be run.  Please
re-install Legacy 7 in order to have Legacy Charting installed again. 


As I downloaded the Deluxe version do I now download the standard version
and upgrade to Deluxe with my customer number?

Has anyone else lost Legacy Charting?

With thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] charting help

[Jenny M Benson]

James Bruckman wrote
I want to create a descendant chart with only the direct line 
individuals. That is Mother and Father and direct line child; and then 
that child as Mother and Father, and so on. I would like to include 
just birth and death date for each individual.


It would be simple if you reversed the process and did an Ancestor 
chart!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Date/Time Stamp of Forum Messages

[JLB]

No, I don't think you're the only one.  The messages have been erratic 
and delayed since v.7 was released, so perhaps it has something to do 
with the server load.  It will probably go back to normal in awhile.

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John Barranco wrote:
Recently I have noticed that the messages I received from the Legacy 
Forum arrive at various times and not in the order that they were 
sent. I just received a messages (June 8th @ 10:00) that was 
originally sent by the user on Sunday, June 7th @ 7:31 p.m. Why are 
the messages taking so long to be distribute? I subscribe to various 
other forums and their messages all arrive in a timely fashion, 
usually within minutes after being sent by the originator. I sent a 
message last night at 5:30 p.m. and have yet to have seen it appear in 
my Legacy Forum folder. Am I the only one having this problem of 
receiving messages in a timely manner from Legacy or are there others 
users experiencing the same problem(s)?


john

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[LegacyUG] Re:V7 - Basic Source Detail Pictures carrying over to Source Writer citation on reports

[Seth T. Bacon]

I can confirm this as well with Legacy 7.0 Deluxe, build 7.0.0.45.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Gen Searcher]

Hello Kirsten and Sherry (Support)
Thanks for you advice and opinions
Regards
John
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From: "Kirsten Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills


> John:
> 
> I've read _Evidence Explained_ and don't think it's all that US-centric.
> There are census formats for Australia, Canada, England, France, Germany,
> Italy, Spain, Sweden, and Wales.  There are also Index listings for records
> of each of these countries (i.e. "Australia, records of") as well as Israel
> and Ireland and possibly others although I didn't do an exhaustive search.
> Source citations for things like Family Bibles, correspondence, heirlooms,
> or LDS records should apply across the board.  Perhaps you could find or
> order a copy through your library and check to see if it seems helpful.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gen
> Searcher
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:55 AM
> To: Legacy Email List
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills
> 
> 
> Hello Listers
> 
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
> 
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
> England
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

[Jack Earnshaw]

Ron

I thought Mrs Mills was an authority - on the honky-tonk piano! But this one
must be from Yorkshire EE Bah Gum.

She obviously knew little about UK censuses as she apparently has templates
for both England and Wales - they were identical and part of the same
census. But I didn't see mention of Scotland, Ireland, Channel Islands etc.
How many Australian censuses have survived - I thought they were all
deliberately destroyed as part of privacy rules.

As you say - let's just leave our American friends to their  (expensive)
book

Jack


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: 09 June 2008 14:40
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7


Kirsten,

With no disrespect to Mrs Mills, she is not regarded as an authority over
here. Nevertheless it will be interesting to see how she interprets our
individualistic/historic way of working.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:25:17 -0700
>
> Ron and Jenny:
>
> Mills' book does cover census formats for Australia, Canada, England,
> France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Wales. I suspect that there just
> wasn't time to develop templates for all of these without further delaying
> the release date, but that we could hope for future additions in Legacy.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ronald
> ferguson
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:12 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7
>
>
>
> Jenny,
>
> Notwithstanding the "Goddess of Sourcing" I am carrying on as before. But
> then I never thought her alledged "standards" would fit the UK. I think
this
> is one of those times when we just leave our American friends to it.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
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> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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>
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:17:17 +0100
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7
>>
>>
>> I would be interested to know what people think of the new SourceWriter
>> in relation to non-US Censuses.
>>
>> The vast majority of my Censuses are England and Wales and I don't find
>> the new fields in Source Details match up terribly well with what I want
>> to include.
>>
>> The given fields are as follows:
>>
>> Collection or Database
>> Jurisdiction County
>> Page
>> Dwelling No
>> Family
>> Column
>>
>> Collection or Database seems superfluous and I am happy to ignore it.
>> Jurisdiction County is ok, but what about Civil Parish and/or
>> Registration District and/or Sub-Registration District and/or
>> Enumeration District? Page is good. Rather then Dwelling No or Family,
>> in England and Wales we have a Household Schedule No. This could be
>> entered in one of those fields, but the words "Dwell" and "Fam" are
>> included in the Citation if those fields are used. Column is not
>> relevant.
>>
>> Then there are the Class, Piece and Folio numbers which are very
>> important finding aids for any English or Welsh Census entry. My "old"
>> way of entering Source Details for a Census was to enter, for example,
>> HO107-2489-486-4, which is the full Class-Piece-Folio- Page reference.
>> I am now entering that reference in the Page field, so in the Citation
>> it reads "p HO107-2489-486-4" which I can live with.
>>
>> I was not in the habit of including the County, CP, RD, ED or Household
>> No and I could carry on not doing so, but I wonder what others do,
>> especially now that I see what the Goddess of Sourcing expects!
>>
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>>

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[LegacyUG] Geocoding Locations

[Brenda Van Dyke]

The Help file on Geocoding Locations states:  … “As each location is
resolved, an X is shown in the L column.  At the end of the process, any
location without an X will have to be looked at to see if you can figure out
where they refer to.”  

I'm cleaning up my locations and as I "geocode" them, my locations are
showing either an L, V, ?, or is blank.  Does anyone know what these mean?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

[Mary Young]

Not forgetting that SCOTTISH statutory records differ in many respects
from those for England and Wales. :-)
Mary Young
Edinburgh, Scotland


On 6/9/08, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Interesting questions! To answer them:
>
>  1) We do not, thank goodness, have a UK "Mills"
>  2) There is no licensing body
>  3) I do not know what the New England Genealogical Society does.
>
>  So what do we have? Two main voluntary (registered charities) organisations, 
> The Society of Genealogists which is mainly London based and awards 
> Fellowships to those with an outstanding record of service to genealogy. 
> Holds many records in their London library which is open to members. Many of 
> these records are now being published through the  Origins website.
>
>  The other is The Federation of Family History Societies (of which I am a 
> member) and may be described as a "bottom-up" organisation with local groups 
> affiliated to the National Federation.
>
>  "Do we have standards for sourcing?" seems to be your major point and the 
> answer is "no we do not", or at least none laid down as far as I know. It is, 
> however, generally accepted that sources should be, clear and reproducable. I 
> guess that this is a typical British way of saying "if it works then leave it 
> alone!"
>
>  Hope this helps.
>
>
>
>  Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] charting help

[Dermot McGlone]

James,

It sounds to me as if this is what Focus Groups are for, or perhaps,
as you suggested, tagging.  I don't believe it's something you can do
from within Legacy Charting.  Look up Focus groups in the help system,
and the introduction says:

Focus Groups





A Focus Group is a group built by selecting individuals, families,
ancestors and descendants.  The contents of a Focus Group determine
who will be exported to a file or printed on a report.  A Focus Group
can contain as few as one individual or the entire contents of the
Family File.  An individual and all his/her ancestors can be added to
the group with a single selection.



The Focus Group window can be reached from several locations.

1. From the Export window, click Record Selection, choose the Selected
Records Contained in the Focus Group option, and then click View / Set
Focus Group.

2. From the Select a Report window when either the Individual or
Family tab is selected.  Click the Record Selection button, choose the
Focus Group Records option and then click Edit.

3. Choose Focus Group from the View menu.

4. From the Miscellaneous Searches tab of the Search window, choose
the Focus Group option and then click View / Set Focus Group.



5-1108

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/9 James Bruckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Try this puzzler:
>
>
>
> I know how you all love to solve these conundrums.
>
>
>
> I want to create a descendant chart with only the direct line individuals.
> That is Mother and Father and direct line child; and then that child as
> Mother and Father, and so on. I would like to include just birth and death
> date for each individual.
>
>
>
> I am thinking I need to separate the desired individuals out first within
> Legacy, maybe by tagging, and then produce the chart. I do not think there
> is a way to do what I want within the Charting tool.
>
> I am using version 7 for both.
>
>
>
> Any ideas? I have been working on this for some time without success.
>
> Jim
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknowns

[JLB]

The mail is erratic so this has already been answered  2 or 3 times.  
The Potential Problems report reports it as a problem that's all.  It 
can be ignored.

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Joyce Herzog wrote:

JL:

What exactly is happening with your unknowns? A good percentage of my 
females are Mary UNKNOWN or even: Unknown UNKNOWN. Maybe I haven't 
used 7 enough, but I haven't seen any problems so far.


Joyce

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Kirsten Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


JL:

I wish you'd quit worrying me like this!  I have scads of unknowns
already
in my database (but don't have v.7 yet).  What happens to them
when you
convert?  What sort of objection does Legacy make?  Is it just
when entering
a new unknown, or is there a problem with those already entered?

Kirsten

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Unknowns


v.7 doesn't like people named Unknown either first name or last.  What
to do instead?  Son/Daughter works when the sex is known.  What
for the
unknowns?  Could-Be-Either?  What about unknown first names of
Husbands?  Still Son?  What's wrong with Unknown?  What for the
unknown
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Dermot McGlone]

John,

According to other posts here from those who may know about such
things (Ron Ferguson, for e.g.)  the book is pretty-much US-centric.

You can however purchase it (if you wish) from the legacy family tree
store (http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440), click the
"Software and Books" link in the menu on the left of screen, and the
first option on screen is to "Evidence Explained: Citing History
Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace". It costs USD71.95 including
shipping (or postage and packing as we say!)   That is approx EUR46 or
GBP36.40).

There may be others on the list who will tell you more about whether
or not it is of much use for non-US sources, as I'm not necessarily
the best sourcer!  The source writer on deluxe version of Legacy v7,
however, will help create these sources to this standard if you
require that, or you can ignore the source writer, and override with
your own preferred options, if you like.

Regards,

Dermot.


2008/6/8 Gen Searcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello Listers
>
> I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth 
> Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.
>
> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
> centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> John
> Manchester
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Sources

[Evert van Dijken]

Yes.
I'm using a workaround at the moment by copying and pasting the formatted text 
first into Notepad.
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> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:05:42 +0100
>
> Maybe it is just because I set up my sources in a particular way but under
> SourceWriter there is no option to strip HTML from the text/comments in the
> source detail although it does exist in the master source definition text
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[LegacyUG] Printing Sources in a Family Group Report

[Claire Spinelli]

I must be doing something wrong. I tried adding a few new sources using the
Source Writer. When I previewed a family group report, the sources showed as
a "subsequent citation" rather than a footnote. For example: I added a
newspaper item I found online. The only thing showing in the sources is the
title of the article - not even the name of the newspaper. I subsequently
tried previewing a descendant narrative report and it showed up correctly
there. Also, the citations I added using an "old" master source with new
source detail also showed up correctly. 

Any advice?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 set relationships

[Robert57P via Gmail]

If I had to guess, I'd think it might be because they expanded relationships to 
include non-blood (i.e.: in-laws), so it takes a bit longer (and thus they may 
have turned off the auto-calculate to speed things up).  If that's the case 
though, I'd like to see them add it as an option (dynamically update 
relationships Y/N).

On a couple related notes:
* Didn't Legacy used to have a chart showing relationships?  I can't find it 
now.
* Wouldn't my wife's grandfather be my grandfather-in-law? (me = Bob, wife = 
Linda, Wife's Grandpa = William)
* If I put me in the left window of the relationship calculator and him in 
the right, the top line says "not related", next box says not related, but in 
the Descriptive Link box it says: William is Bob's wife's grandfather.  
* If I swap us (him on left, me on right), the top line says "husband of 
granddaughter", next box lists him and "husband of granddaughter" and a couple 
lines of NOT RELATED.  And there is no descriptive link.

Bob

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirsty M. Haining 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:19 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 set relationships


  Hi -

   

  Not sure if this is a bug or not.  In version 6 of Legacy, when you added an 
individual and had set relationships with yourself as the primary person, the 
relationship showed up immediately on the new person you added.  Now, in 
version 7 it seems, you must re-calculate and set relationships all over again 
to find out the relationship of a newly added relative.  Of course you can 
always use the relationship tool and find it out that way, but I miss having 
the instant relationship shown whenever I add someone new.

   

  Is this going to be a permanent thing in version 7, or is it a bug?  I know 
Millennia is busy with fulfilling orders, so I'm not terribly worried about 
this, but I just wanted to write about it while I was thinking about it.

   

  cheers,

  Kirsty Haining

  Seattle, WA

  J

   

   

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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: unable to add repositories in research guidance

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

You can add any repository you want. Go to View - Master List - Addresses - 
Repository, or did you want to upload that into your reasearch guildance DB?
Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] FW: unable to add repositories in research guidance






When using research guidance, i.e., preliminary survey,-local histories
there are many books that are recommended to research.  I have found that
more often than not some of these books give a reference to look in either
world cat, or family history Library... which means I have to order the book
through my local library in order to get the information,-that's fine, and I
appreciate the suggestion, which I will do if I can't find the information
on the Web.  Nevertheless, many times, I have found some of the books that
are referenced only to where I can order them, are located online at,
ancestry.com, heritage quest, Google books, and so forth. I realize that
there is no way legacy or anyone else can keep up with all the books that
are added on line and put them in the repositories as they become Available
on the web.  So, I looked for a way that I can enter the repository where I
found the book online so that I go to the online source where I found it the
last time if it comes up again while doing research on another person.

My question is, - is there some way that I can add my own repository to the
repositories already in the research guidance Center?  If not, is this
feature planned for the future?  If not, could you please include it.

Thanks
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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy Colours

[Cathy]

Hi Shirl,

The colours in Legacy apply to the whole program rather than a Family 
File. I'm assuming by "family Trees" you mean separate files? If so 
and you are getting confused, perhaps it's time to consider putting 
them all in one file though here are other suggestions. (If you mean 
different lines within the one file, then turn on the Ancestor 
colours in Options > Customise and then use Tools > Apply Ancestor Colours.)


You could save several colour schemes and then change to the relevant 
colour scheme when you were working on a particular Family File if 
that would help. If you've saved a Colour Scheme you can swap schemes 
very quickly by right clicking on a background bit and choosing 
Change Colour Scheme and picking the relevant name from the list.


That, of course, is a workaround. You might put in a Suggestion from 
the Home Tab that colours be Family File specific.


I only have two family files that I generally use - my real family 
file and my test file. In my test file I have a copy of the Sample 
file supplemented with parts of my family tree that I'm really 
familiar with as it's easier to see what is happening with familiar 
data. It became important to be able to see immediately that I was in 
my test file rather than real file. So I changed the main surnames - 
like FOOTE to LEGGE :-) , CLARK to SCOTLAND because they came from there etc.


Cathy

At 11:09 AM 9/06/2008, you wrote:
 I was just wondering that since there is a choice of colours 
within Legacy; would I be able to have each of my family Trees in a 
different colour so that there is no danger of me getting them 
mixed up; with each other?

Would appreciate your comment and ideas re this.

Also how you use the colours within your individual ?
Thanks so much.

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RE: [LegacyUG] No email with instructions

[ronald ferguson]

Hi Linda,

Now that is getting to be a long time, but I am sure that you will have read 
Ken's comments on LUG and and in the Legacy Newsletter explaining the 
situation. One thing is for sure LUG is unable to help in these matters and the 
only recourse is to contact Sales.

BTW the comment in my email was not really directed at yourself, but many were 
complaining about a delay of a very few hours.

I take it that you know the delux code is downloaded in the standard and all 
that is needed is your key to unlock the delux bit ie. if you download the 
standard you will not have to download again.

I'd give it another day and then check with sales.

Good luck


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No email with instructions
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:56:57 +0100
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> BST 10pm Sun 8th June
> It is now three days since I paid and 2 since I received the download email
> for the manual.
> I have sent an email to customer service yesterday (Saturday) but have not
> received a reply yet.
> I have checked my Spam filter since the messages came out that it might be
> in there - but have found nothing.
>
> Linda
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] No email with instructions
>
>
>
> Linda,
>
> Is that 24 hours?
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
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>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No email with instructions
>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:22:03 +0100
>>
>> I paid last night for the deluxe version 7 [10pm BST]and still no email
>> for
>> the programme although I have had one for the manual [11am BST]
>>
>> Linda
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anne Hollingshead"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:41 AM
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] No email with instructions
>>
>>
>>>I have paid on line for Version 7 and have not got an email with my
>>>instructions in it. What do I do please ?
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[Dawn Del Guercio]

To the Millenia Company- One suggestion would be to sign up for yahoo
groups.  It's free, well known, has many features which people have
mentioned a desire for, and it free.
Thanks,
Dawn in NJ


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>  I do not understand why they dont use a forum instead of a mailing list.
> Many of the emails would disappear as its much easier to find old answers
> and you only have to look at the items you are interested in.
>
> Rootsweb host many other forums.
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[LegacyUG] RE:

[Jack Earnshaw]

Ron

Good point.

However, I think the big problem at the moment is that items can take
several days to reach the list. So it could well be that there wasn't an
answer in the archives when the question was asked.

Jack

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Subject: 


Many of the questions which are being asked have been asked several times
before and the answers are in the Archives. For example by putting "Search
Converter" into the Archive Search box, I found 25 references.

If luggers would search the Archives before sending an email not only would
they get an answer immediately but it would go a long way to reduce the
clutter on this list.

The achive URL is at the bottom of every email but is:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/


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Re: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

[GeoSci]

Upgrades have been FREE within a version - but there has always been a
payment with a major revision.
Keith

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Michele Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been off of the email list for quite some time and have just now
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> times.
>
> I thought that those persons that have bought Version 6 would get a FREE
> upgrade to Version 7?  What happened with that?  I just went to the web site
> to upgrade and I have to pay.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

[Allen Prunty]

Well...

If you were like me and bought version 6 years ago... no freebie... I think 
you had to buy it very recently to get a freebie.


Allen

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Subject: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

I have been off of the email list for quite some time and have just now 
rejoined so please forgive me if this question has been asked a gazillion 
times.


I thought that those persons that have bought Version 6 would get a FREE 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknowns

[JLB]

What I don't like about using the word "Un-named" is that it suggests 
the person was not given a name.  They most likely were if they lived 
longer than a few days, but at this juncture from this point of view 
it's UNKNOWN.  Are the reports at all flexible about which word can be 
used or do I have to do a Search & Replace in a text editor?


JL

Allen Prunty wrote:
I leave either the surname or the given name blank if it's unknown... 
the narrative will read out on the reports...


  Un-named Smith was a child of Jane Jones and John Smith born 1920 
died 1920 (stillborn).


Legacy is intelligent enough to handle it when you print reports.

I also have better luck with familysearch.org when I leave the unknown 
stuff blanked out like this.


Allen

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Unknowns

v.7 doesn't like people named Unknown either first name or last.  
What to do instead?  Son/Daughter works when the sex is known.  What 
for the unknowns?  Could-Be-Either?  What about unknown first names 
of Husbands? Still Son?  What's wrong with Unknown?  What for the 
unknown last names? Nothing?

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[LegacyUG] Version 7 - Small problem in editing locations for people from master locations

[Scott Failmezger]

Editing locations is great in Version 7!!! It is also great to directly edit 
the location on the family view if needed. The only problem is that if you need 
to edit the marriage location your out of luck. You have to exit out and look 
up the name and then edit the marriage.

Now if there's a way to get to the marriage information from a persons family 
view I'd love to know how. Otherwise, this needs to get corrected in the future.

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[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting with short locations?

[Anna Bayerl]

Hello,

does anybody know, how i can use Legacy Charting with short locations? That
means without xxx, yyy, zzz, USA but just xxx.
THX Cindy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages

[Gary Templeman]

No, but since messages to the list are often delayed, I also frequently send 
a copy to the person just to be sure they get my answer in a timely fashion.


Gary

- Original Message - 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages



I am receiving 2 copies of every message on the Legacy User group.  I use
Outlook 2007 and it has been a little cranky lately, but I belong to other
mailing lists as well and Legacy is the only one consistently showing up
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Re: [LegacyUG] v 6 - Loss of Master Sources

[John Roose]

Sherry -

BINGO!  Thanx so-o-o-o much.

Regards,  John

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Sherry/Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Go to the Master Source List and make sure there are no checkmarks in front
> of the filters under "Show Only" on the right site of the window.
>
> Thanks for using Legacy.
>
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>
> While adding new information today I somehow managed to delete ALL my
> Master
> Sources! Fortunately, I have a backup. The backup does not include today's
> work.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[music-line]

For those interested, the online version of 'Evidence Explained' can be
bought at http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained.php for $24.95 (half the
price of the hard back copy).

I have to say I would not normally put a link like this on the Legacy user
group, but as Legacy seems to have designed aspects of Version 7 around the
Elizabeth Shown Mills method (from what I have heard people say), I feel
justified in posting this link.

Best wishes

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills


On 8 Jun 2008 at 14:54, Gen Searcher  
wrote:

> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting

I am also interested in this question as I am contemplating buying it. FYI -
there is a 
website something like footnotes.com which is selling the pdf version for
US$24 which 
is a lot cheaper than having to pay US$50 for the paper copy plus shipping
to the other 
side of the world.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 source detail on reports

[Jenny M Benson]

Dede Holden wrote

I first asked this question on Saturday and had no response.


You got a response from Geoff Rasmussen, asking you to submit an example 
report to him by e-mail.


I also responded, saying that I could confirm the same findings and I 
had tried other Reports, not just Family Group Sheet.


If you did not see Geoff's post, I suggest you check the archives.
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[LegacyUG] a few problems in Legacy 7

[Ron Taylor]

Some problems have been mentioned.  Sorry if these are repeated.

1) Relationship calculator still not working very well.
  a) One set of relationships can differ after swapping left and right with 
the same two individuals.
  b) Very slow compared with verion 6 probably because so many additional 
combinations are being examined
  c) Relationships are no longer automatically calculated as individuals 
are added to the database.


2) Options>customize>data format>word for blank records>just leave it blank 
is now showing "unknown" instead of blank.


3) Right click on "open source clipboard" triangle no longer allows 
selection from 10 most used choices.


Some things have obviously been changed but some of the features of prior 
versions may have been left out by mistake.  It would be good if the 
programmers would comment on features that have been removed or altered with 
explanation.


Ron Taylor




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Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Address Note in GEDCOM

[Brian/Support]

Jim,

The problem you reported has been tested and is confirmed as a bug. A 
report has been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be 
fixed.


The error also causes Legacy to incorrectly import the data. The Burial 
Address note gets lost and the Burial Note becomes a note for the Address.


Both of these errors are included in the report.

Brian
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Thanks.

Jim Rickenbacker(3) wrote:

Does anyone know why a burial address note  should show up as a burial note
in an exported GEDCOM rather than as a burial address note. i.e. the 
burial address

note shows up as a sub tag of the burial (same level as a burial note)
rather than a sub tag of the address (one level down).

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Re: [LegacyUG] to-do list by location - multiple sendings

[Gene Young]

Wayne Martell wrote:
It is getting ridiculous! I have sent messages 38 hours ago, 22 hours 
ago, and 19 hours ago and none have them have appeared. Obviously, 
Millennia's mail server needs some maintenance.


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You are correct, it is getting ridiculous.  A quick check shows the following messages from you to 
the list since 6/5/08.

6/5/08 - [LegacyUG] Whats New in Legacy Video
6/6/08 - Re: [LegacyUG] v7
6/7/08 - [LegacyUG] V7 - Marriage Information Screen
6/7/08 - Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins
6/8/08 - Re: [LegacyUG] to-do list by location - multiple sendings

Obviously the messages are going through the list and out to the subscribers.  This means Millenia's 
mail server is doing its job.  That leaves something on your end not working correctly.  Check your 
junk folder and your ISP.  It's not Millenia's fault.



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[LegacyUG] devising search strings

[Kathy Shiell-Stokes]

Could some kind soul devise a search string for Automated 
Genealogy?Contact me off list and I will supply the URL.
For the uninitiated Americans and Brits in our midst, Automated 
Genealogy is a lovely little website that gives free access to the 
1901 and 1911 Canadian Census as well as the 1906 western census. 
With a nicely devised search string a researcher could get happily 
lost for weeks tracking down all their lost little Canuck rellies.

Kathy




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Re: [LegacyUG] to-do list by location - multiple sendings

[Robert57P via Gmail]

Remember that your own msgs often do NOT come back to you.  At least in part 
this depends on what e-mail server YOU are using.  For instance, I use 
Google mail - and a msg I send to the board does NOT come back to me (even 
if I copy myself!).  But I can check the Legacy archives later and see that 
it got posted.  (When looking to verify a msg, I find it easier to sort the 
archives by date rather than by the default.)


Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Martell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] to-do list by location - multiple sendings


It is getting ridiculous! I have sent messages 38 hours ago, 22 hours ago, 
and 19 hours ago and none have them have appeared. Obviously, Millennia's 
mail server needs some maintenance.


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- Original Message - 
From: Mary Figgins

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] to-do list by location - multiple sendings


I apologize for the multiple sendings and those out of time with the 
answers.  For some reason my emails aren't/weren't showing up for a day or 
two after I actually sent it.  Therefore I wasn't sure they had gone 
through so I resent them.  This one I am sending on Saturday about 9:00 am 
central time.


Mary Beth




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Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[Judith H]

Time for you to get off my back! From what I can see, you ARE NOT keeper of
this list!  Cease and desist!  I will NOT reply to your whinings again! 
This list is for HELPING each other, NOT hurting each other.







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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only? 

 

Please - then stop sending things like your "INTERESTING" post a bit ago! 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] V 7 Ancestor Book Report Problem

[Judy]

Thanks, Ron, for the suggestion.  I've reset everything, deleted the 
ances.usr file that Cathy mentioned and have uninstalled and reinstalled the 
whole shebang.  Didn't "customize" a thing.  Problem persists.  It isn't a 
terrible problem - just irritating that it doesn't seem to be a problem 
user-wide.


Judy



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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V 7 Ancestor Book Report Problem



Judy,

It sounds like you need to reset all your settings in Report Options - it 
works fine for me:


22. Mr John Ellis [138],32 son of Mr Joseph Ellis [301] and Miss Ellen 
Warrington [1184],
was born about 1829 in Manchester, England, was christened on 2 Dec 1829 in 
Cathedral,
Manchester, Lancashire, England,77 and died circa Jun 1890 in Chorlton on 
Medlock,

Manchester23 aged about 61.


Ron Ferguson

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Subject: [LegacyUG] V 7 Ancestor Book Report Problem
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:00:20 -0400

In creating an Ancestor Book Report in V6, the primary individual, in each
generation (i.e. primary, primary's father, primary's grandfather) are
completely listed with birthdate, marriage and death.

But in V7, the primary individual is listed only by name, in every
generation past the first - no birth, marriage or death information.

I can reproduce this with any Ancestor Book Report I do in V7. Have I
missed something or is this a possible bug in an otherwise great program.

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Re: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

[gtempleman1]

If you bought version 6 after the specified date (I think it was June or July 
of last year) then the update is free. In essence those people were actually 
buying version 7, but allowed to use version 6 in the interim since v. 7 wasn't 
quite ready. Millenia *thought* the programming would be completed well before 
now. Many companies offer a free or reduced cost upgrade when the existing 
product is nearing the end of its life and the next release is imminent. Rarely 
is a free upgrade available for all existing users.

Gary Templeman

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> I have been off of the email list for quite some time and have just now 
> rejoined so please forgive me if this question has been asked a gazillion 
> times. 
> 
> I thought that those persons that have bought Version 6 would get a FREE 
> upgrade to Version 7? What happened with that? I just went to the web site 
> to upgrade and I have to pay. 
> 
> michele 
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Re: [LegacyUG] UK sources

[Dermot McGlone]

Geoff,

Glad to hear that.  I hope this feature will be suitable for irish
records also, as there are many people with Irish ancestors/relatives
(including those of us who live there!!)

Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/7 Geoff Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Graham,
>
> Hopefully this next week we'll be creating specific templates for the UK
> vital registrations. This will make it easier to format. We'll release this
> in a free update.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
> Millennia Corporation
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glove
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:15 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup
> Subject: [LegacyUG] UK sources
>
> Most but not all of my sources entered in V6 are UK specific and include a
> number of original birth, marriage and death certificates. I stress these
> are originals and not copies. They are hand written, issued at the time of
> registration and many have postage stamps affixed and official embossed
> marks. These are my sources so when I use SourceWriter I can choose the
> source type as 'Birth records' for example and the type of birth record as
> 'Birth certificate'. However the next question is 'Where is the certificate
> held?' My view is that I hold it but at the very least a copy of it can be
> found elsewhere. The only choices we have though are 'Held at local/county
> level' and 'Held at state/provincial level'. Given the GRO setup in England
> I don't see either of these as appropriate although I can see how either
> might apply. Will there be any flexibility in the wording or user choice to
> create new repository locations?
> Graham Love
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Output Bug (was "Sources")

[Belinda]

Just wanted to let you know that I think this is a bug... as I have
experienced something similar...

Had created a new source and added in some comments (can't remember whether
it was on the source or the source details section) when I created another
source the comments that I had added for the previous source kept appearing
in the source output (and a couple others that I had made after the first
one)as well even though I hadn't put them there. I know that I have not
combined them accidentally and I don’t think that you have either. I made a
narrative report which included both sources and they were listed correctly
there. When I went back to the source tab the issue seemed to have resolved
itself. So I thought I would keep an eye on it and see if it was a regular
bug or just one that appeared once (my hope) and then went away. The fact
that someone else is experiencing something similar would seem to suggest
some sort of bug. I'm sorry I can't help with a solution only confirmation
that it is happening to others. 

Regards, Belinda


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carol Costa
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources

Something weird has happened when I try to cite a source.  As I was
inputting a Master Source for a birth index this morning, I think I
inadvertently touched the Combine Highlighted Source with Another in the
List.  (don’t ask me how that happened) Now this person’s source information
for the birth index appears on the Assigned sources output tab area in
several of other family member’s screens when I point to not only the Master
Source birth index I entered,  but also other Master Sources also.   When I
try to edit source, the actual source edit area is correct, and doesn’t
include the birth index of my initial input.    Anyone know how to fix
this?    IE:...now on Master Source List, pointing to Texas Birth Index, it
says after clicking the output tab, the name, birth date, vol number, cert #
of my initial family member input this morning (who is from Kentucky and was
never in Texas)  It also has the correct information re: Texas source also. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

When getting downloads of books, I always get the front page, which gives the 
author or group, NO BOOK has no author. It is an online photocopy of the book, 
so IMHO I would call it book, the repository is the website. I have not bought 
EE yet either.
Rich in LA CA

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Sent: Sunday, June 8, 2008 7:22:21 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)


MICHELLE CROSBY wrote
>On the Iowa Genweb site is the transcript of a book on Allamakee County 
>Cemetery Records.  This book was
>written by Dale P. Woodmansee, 1989.  People have entered his work on 
>the site.  So would the source be a data base or a book-I plan
>on purchasing the book that was used for the bases of the sourcewriter- 
>and the book on how to use Legacy-

I am no means an expert and have not read the ESM books on Sourcing, but 
I have poked about a bit in the Source Writer and this is my suggestion.

For the type of Source choose "Books", under Authored or Edited select 
Book, Authored (reprint), for Author select "Author known" and for 
Medium select "Online Book."

The next screen (step 2) gives you the opportunities to enter all the 
details of the book plus the name and URL of the website, the date it 
was published on the Internet (if known) and although the Format field 
is pre-filled with "Digital images" you can change this to 
"Transcription."


I would be very interested to have the comments of other LUGgers on this 
solution and/or to read other suggestions.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages

[Brendan Caley]

If you have rules setup to sort your inbox mail, check the rules for
duplicates.

Brendan Caley

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beverly
Locke
Sent: 08 June 2008 23:34
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages

I am receiving 2 copies of every message on the Legacy User group.  I use
Outlook 2007 and it has been a little cranky lately, but I belong to other
mailing lists as well and Legacy is the only one consistently showing up
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting 7 - inserted text

[Luc Comeau]

Hi Harold,

These are known issues/bugs with the current release of Legacy
Charting.  We will be fixing them very soon.

Thanks,
Luc Comeau
Legacy Family Tree


On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 09:14, Harold Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed legacy 7.0 so that i avoid any problems using Legacy
> Charting after the 15th.  While i see that there is no update to the
> charting software i am curious about a couple of issues
> 1. the help for the Side Toolbar does not include the button labeled by the
> flyover "Refresh Chart".  Past experience with the button has shown that the
> refresh does not include reloading the data from the Legacy database.  In
> order to make the chart reflect the most recent changes to the database i
> have always reselected the target person.  What should the refresh button
> really do?  However, after trying to use the Insert tab i am led to a new
> issue:
> 2.  if text is inserted into a chart and the person is reselected to get the
> most recent family data from the database, the inserted text disapears.
> this makes sense as teh software must assume its a new chart but makes for
> extra work to redo the inserts.  What am i missing in using Legacy Charting
> effectively?
> --
> Harold
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Re: [LegacyUG] zooming to pins in maps

[GeoSci]

The map will zoom with the mouse wheel - to whatever is in the center.
Keith

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> On 7 Jun 2008 at 18:38, Jennifer Crockett
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Elaine
>>
>> Zooming did that to me as well. The way I do it now is to keep double
>> clicking on the pin.
>
> 14 double-clicks to get from the default map to street view. It would be
> nice to be able to click on any point in the list & have the map pan to the
> pin point on the map instead.
>
> Being able to zoom to a box would also be a good idea - draw the box on the
> map & it will resize rather than having to pan & zoom separately.
>
> Dave
>
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[LegacyUG] Date/Time Stamp of Forum Messages

[John Barranco]

Recently I have noticed that the messages I received from the Legacy Forum 
arrive at various times and not in the order that they were sent. I just 
received a messages (June 8th @ 10:00) that was originally sent by the user on 
Sunday, June 7th @ 7:31 p.m. Why are the messages taking so long to be 
distribute? I subscribe to various other forums and their messages all arrive 
in a timely fashion, usually within minutes after being sent by the originator. 
I sent a message last night at 5:30 p.m. and have yet to have seen it appear in 
my Legacy Forum folder. Am I the only one having this problem of receiving 
messages in a timely manner from Legacy or are there others users experiencing 
the same problem(s)?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Unknowns

[Christina]

Just as a curiosity, What if the "Unknowns" were entered like "Boy Smith" or
"Girl Smith" or if first name is known only then just put in "Sally Girl or
Sam Boy" or something to that effect. It would keep the questionable in the
files and keep them also together if you get the actual name for the person?

Christina

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 1:15 AM, JLB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry.  I ran a Potential Problems report.  I had also done it the same day
> with v.6 and got No Problems (of course, because I'd already fixed them
> all).
> Now, running PP on v.7 I got a list about six feet long.  ??   Some of it
> is old.  Why was it in there again?  I don't know.  Maybe because the Ignore
> feature hadn't carried through into v.7 ?
> Some of it is new.  v.7 has some new "bad" criteria and one of those seems
> to be a dislike of the name Unknown.  I have tons of them.  I compromised at
> taking off the Unknowns where it was a surname (mostly women) and just left
> the ladies with their first names.
> Where Unknown is a first name I did a Search and Replace to Un-named,
> didn't like the look of it, because they're not really un-named, there just
> unknown.  v.7 doesn't mind Un-named.
> I tried a couple as Son/Daughter but don't like the look of that either.
> I went back to Unknown and told it to shut up, I'm keeping it.
>
> Don't worry.  Sometimes it has an option for telling it to shut up.  I was
> just curious - what's wrong with Unknown??
> --
> JL
> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>
> Kirsten Bowman wrote:
>
>> JL:
>>
>> I wish you'd quit worrying me like this!  I have scads of unknowns already
>> in my database (but don't have v.7 yet).  What happens to them when you
>> convert?  What sort of objection does Legacy make?  Is it just when
>> entering
>> a new unknown, or is there a problem with those already entered?
>>
>> Kirsten
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JLB
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 9:41 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Unknowns
>>
>>
>> v.7 doesn't like people named Unknown either first name or last.  What
>> to do instead?  Son/Daughter works when the sex is known.  What for the
>> unknowns?  Could-Be-Either?  What about unknown first names of
>> Husbands?  Still Son?  What's wrong with Unknown?  What for the unknown
>> last names?  Nothing?
>> --
>> JL
>> JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
>> http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Jenny M Benson]

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth Shown 
Mills and can find it only on USA based
websites.


You can get it through Amazon.co.uk.  It is actually cheaper (although 
still expensive by my standards!) to buy a new copy which will be 
dispatched from the US than to buy a used copy which will be dispatched 
from the UK!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources - Master and Detail

[Cathy]

Original Poster
whose query or comment often gets lost in the discussion

Cathy

At 01:43 AM 10/06/2008, you wrote:
Intermittently on this LUG I see references to "OP".  What's that 
stand for? Operator?  Operating Program?  OutPut?

- Original Message - From: "Jenny M Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources - Master and Detail




Elizabeth Richardson wrote
What do you have checked in Options>Customize>Sources>Source 
Detail Defaults ?


Another rather confusing instance of having different places to 
select the same options!  However, I have "Include Source Details 
text on source citations on reports" ticked in Options and on the 
Source Details tab and still confirm the OP's findings.

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[LegacyUG] V7 Sources

[glove]

Maybe it is just because I set up my sources in a particular way but under
SourceWriter there is no option to strip HTML from the text/comments in the
source detail although it does exist in the master source definition text
tab. Would this be a problem for anyone else?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Purchase Price

[Chambro]

Brenda,

Welcome to the club... I purchased 6.0 Deluxe for 39.95 the day before 7.0 was 
offered, June 2.  I received a receipt but no password to unlock either version 
6 or version 7.  Neither customer service nor Sales have answered my e-mails 
and they have not returned two phone calls. They charged my credit card on June 
2.  I am almost a new user.  Is this anyway to run a business?

Chick
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brenda Kellow 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:56 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Purchase Price


  I bought 7.0 Deluxe for the $39.95 price early in the morning the first day 
it was offered, June 3, and I have yet to receive my customer password or 
receipt. Customer Service has not answered two emails asking for an 
explanation. Any comments

   

  Brenda 

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
Failmezger
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:49 AM
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  Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Purchase Price

   

  I purchased the download upgrade to Version 7 from the legacy store for 
$29.95. Two days later I get an e-mail that I can purchase the upgrade for 
$21.95.

   

  How can I get my $8 dollars back?

   

  Scott

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

[Wm Voss]

Locations/options/print/location list. Locations are numbered: go to 
last page of preview and read the last entry.


This will take, at the current state of delay, 24 hours or more to hit 
the list; if it is redundant by that time, my apologies.


Wm Voss

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

I did it the old fashion way, 22 per screen and 253 scrolls = 5566 minus 
possible mistakes use 5500 as a working number (saw some mistakes). It would be 
nice if the total showed up somewhere on a screen.
Rich in LA CA


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Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 12:49:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins

How do you get a count of locations?

___
Wayne Martell
Victoria, BC, Canada

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From: Susan Daily

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ver 7 mapping and push pins


Dede, since cemeteries and churches, etc. are used by more than one person, 
generally, it doesn't add tremendously to the Master Location list (although 
I do have 1401 locations, so maybe it does). So then you can place the pin 
for that cemetery and church more specifically. I wouldn't do residences, 
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[LegacyUG] Maps

[C.G. Ouimet]

In Master Locations, what is the checkbox between the Combine and Sort
buttons?
 
Is there a quick way to copy a locations coordinates to another?
 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs

[Colin Liddell]

Thanks Bob, I have ordered the first set of 5 CDs tonight and look forward 
to receiving them.


Colin.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Robert57P via Gmail

 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


 Colin,

 Check here:
 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp

 I've bought them (both sets) and gone through some.  Very well done.

 Bob

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 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


 Interesting. I received my V7 CD and hard copy of the manual last
 week but there was no flyer in there about a set of CDs for $32.95.
 Would you give me more information on this offer please, ie. which CDs 
were

 on offer for this price?

 Colin in a wet Brisbane.
   - Original Message - 
   From: G OLIVE

   To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
   Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:39 AM
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


   Geoff,
   I just received my Hard copy V7 Book w/CD. In the packet was a flyer
 offering to sell the CD's in the first set for $32.95 OR $9.95 each. It
 makes sense what you are saying so I'll go for the set.
   Thanks,
   GO


   On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Sounds like a fun idea. Well, they're not sold separately, but you 
might

 be able to request individual CDs by calling the 800 number. However, the
 way the CD videos were designed is so they build on each other. In other
 words, if you wanted to take an all-day seminar on just Legacy, you would
 begin with the basics, progress to the next level, and at the end you'll
 have everything you need for a strong foundation. So…watching the CDs
 randomly is probably okay, but you'll benefit the most by watching them in
 the order in which they are listed at
 http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=4.



 Thanks,



 Geoff Rasmussen

 Millennia Corporation

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G OLIVE
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:15 PM


 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs



 Geoff,
 Is it possible to purchase individual CD's or pick a group of 3-4? 
Sort

 of pick your own bundle?
 GO

 On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 We'll get right on it Bob. :)

 We took some great pictures of the shipping department today. It is
 pretty
 crazy around here.

 Actually, merging, combining, splitting, etc. would make a great CD.

 Thanks,

 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Robert57P
 via Gmail
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


 Legacy team,

 1)
 I haven't viewed the training CDs yet, but I have looked at the TOC of
 each.  I don't see anything that specifically covers:
 IMPORT
 MERGE
 DUP
 IntelliShare
 GEDCOM

 I would think all of these would be related and would deserve their 
own
 section (or even their own CD??).  I know in the old versions, at 
least
 there was a section on GEDCOMS in the BEGINNERs lesson - though I 
don't

 recall if that including merging and such.  Just a thought for a new
 product
 in case you don't have anything to do right now (ha ha ha).

 Thanks again for all your hard work and good product.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[Dermot McGlone]

Al,

Unless I'm mistaken, there IS a special email list for specific
questions about using Legacy/

Just send an e-mail to LegacyUsergroup@legacyfamilytree.com and you're there.

Oh wiat a minute, that's what we are doing, isn't it

Regards,

Dermot.

2008/6/6 Al Wakenhut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Would it be possible to set up a special email list limited to those of us
> whom have specific questions about using Legacy?  Not to complain, but many
> of us do not have the time to read a large volume of emails from people who
> have complaints about the service or just want to chat.  I could further
> explain my question but then I would only be adding to the problem.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Al
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Maybe you'll get lucky, Ron, and not have a "Goddess of Sourcing" asserting 
herself.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson"




1) We do not, thank goodness, have a UK "Mills"
2) There is no licensing body
3) I do not know what the New England Genealogical Society does.

[snip]

"Do we have standards for sourcing?" seems to be your major point and the 
answer is "no we do not", or at least none laid down as far as I know. It 
is, however, generally accepted that sources should be, clear and 
reproducable. I guess that this is a typical British way of saying "if it 
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[LegacyUG] Charting Puzzle

[James Bruckman]

Try this puzzler:

 

I know how you all love to solve these conundrums.

 

I want to create a descendant chart with only the direct line individuals.
That is Mother and Father and direct line child; and then that child as
Mother and Father, and so on. I would like to include just birth and death
date for each individual.

 

I am thinking I need to separate the desired individuals out first within
Legacy, maybe by tagging, and then produce the chart. I do not think there
is a way to do what I want within the Charting tool.

I am using version 7 for both.

 

Any ideas? I have been working on this for some time without success.

Jim

 

 





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Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[Judith H]

Thank you very much for the info.  

---Original Message---
 
From: Wynthner
Date: 6/9/2008 9:36:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?
 
Have you checked the Legacy Message Board at Rootsweb?
 
 
- Original Message 
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I  too would prefer that type of list, or rather, a 'normal' board where one
can scan the headings and read only what is of interest.
Thank you.
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Al Wakenhut
Date: 6/7/2008 10:15:20 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?
 
Would it be possible to set up a special email list limited to those of us
whom have specific questions about using Legacy? Not to complain, but many
of us do not have the time to read a large volume of emails from people who
have complaints about the service or just want to chat. I could further
explain my question but then I would only be adding to the problem.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

[ronald ferguson]

Kirsten,

With no disrespect to Mrs Mills, she is not regarded as an authority over here. 
Nevertheless it will be interesting to see how she interprets our 
individualistic/historic way of working.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7
> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:25:17 -0700
>
> Ron and Jenny:
>
> Mills' book does cover census formats for Australia, Canada, England,
> France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden and Wales. I suspect that there just
> wasn't time to develop templates for all of these without further delaying
> the release date, but that we could hope for future additions in Legacy.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ronald
> ferguson
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:12 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7
>
>
>
> Jenny,
>
> Notwithstanding the "Goddess of Sourcing" I am carrying on as before. But
> then I never thought her alledged "standards" would fit the UK. I think this
> is one of those times when we just leave our American friends to it.
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
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> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:17:17 +0100
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7
>>
>>
>> I would be interested to know what people think of the new SourceWriter
>> in relation to non-US Censuses.
>>
>> The vast majority of my Censuses are England and Wales and I don't find
>> the new fields in Source Details match up terribly well with what I want
>> to include.
>>
>> The given fields are as follows:
>>
>> Collection or Database
>> Jurisdiction County
>> Page
>> Dwelling No
>> Family
>> Column
>>
>> Collection or Database seems superfluous and I am happy to ignore it.
>> Jurisdiction County is ok, but what about Civil Parish and/or
>> Registration District and/or Sub-Registration District and/or
>> Enumeration District? Page is good. Rather then Dwelling No or Family,
>> in England and Wales we have a Household Schedule No. This could be
>> entered in one of those fields, but the words "Dwell" and "Fam" are
>> included in the Citation if those fields are used. Column is not
>> relevant.
>>
>> Then there are the Class, Piece and Folio numbers which are very
>> important finding aids for any English or Welsh Census entry. My "old"
>> way of entering Source Details for a Census was to enter, for example,
>> HO107-2489-486-4, which is the full Class-Piece-Folio- Page reference.
>> I am now entering that reference in the Page field, so in the Citation
>> it reads "p HO107-2489-486-4" which I can live with.
>>
>> I was not in the habit of including the County, CP, RD, ED or Household
>> No and I could carry on not doing so, but I wonder what others do,
>> especially now that I see what the Goddess of Sourcing expects!
>>
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 - Little Capitalisation bug

[Cathy]

Hi Jenny,

This isn't a bug - it's the way you entered it on the Entry screens - 
the Individual screen and the Edit tab in the Name List.

How else would you know how the surname is actually entered?
There is no possibility for confusion on these screens as the Surname 
is in a Surname box.


Cathy

At 01:10 AM 9/06/2008, you wrote:

I have changed to entering all my surnames in lowercase with leading 
capital and have selected to have them display in capitals. This is 
working everywhere except on the Individual's Information screen 
where the surname is displayed as entered.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

[Janis Gilmore]

As in any "pocket" of life, genealogy has a culture and a vocabulary. You
may not like the Mills sourcing, and certainly have no requirement to use
it.

Having said that, I think you may be leading others astray when you
trivialize it. It is, at present, the industry standard, in the U.S. at
least. I think that we can only benefit from a study of her work, even if we
ultimately choose not to embrace it.

Additionally, I do believe that Legacy's inclusion of Mills' sourcing in the
new version will only serve to expand their market, and make it more likely
for all of us that Legacy will prosper and continue to provide a good
product. 

I am presently at IGHR, where Elizabeth Shown Mills is lecturing, although I
am not in her lecture track. As a humorous note - she looks a bit like a
goddess - slim, well-coiffed, and very well-dressed! No grapes or fig
leaves.  :-)

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Richardson
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

Some American friends may ignore her, too. These Source Templates are way 
too complicated and confusing. I have Legacy set to Basic.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jenny,

Notwithstanding the "Goddess of Sourcing" I am carrying on as before. But 
then I never thought her alledged "standards" would fit the UK. I think this

is one of those times when we just leave our American friends to it.


Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] v 6 - Loss of Master Sources

[gtempleman1]

Restore from the backup and re-do today's work - unfortunately.

Gary

-- Original message -- 
From: "John Roose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

While adding new information today I somehow managed to delete ALL my Master 
Sources! Fortunately, I have a backup. The backup does not include today's work.

I'd appreciate suggestions on the easiest way to restore my Master Source file.

Thanx.

-- 
Genealogy - - - - - it's in my blood! 

[LegacyUG] Post Fix titles not having their case honoured

[Phil Warn]

Dear all,

In my tree I have several Knights and peers of the realm.

One, Sir Rowland Hill KCB FRS is having his post 
fix titles reduced to Kcb Frs which is surely an import buglet?


I do not expect the field to be modified in any 
way as it can also be in mixed case as in BSc for 
a bachelor of science, for example.


So, to recap, the GEDCOM file has the suffix as 
KCB FRS, Legacy 7 is showing the field as Kcb Frs incorrectly.


Thank you

Phil

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Family Historians take all steps
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RE: [LegacyUG] How do people record addresses in an 'Event'?

[ronald ferguson]

David,

As I have said before, if I was you I would forget all about geolocations for 
UK addresses they do not work properly. I only use geolocations to find a 
location if I am not sure of it.

I put the full address, for the time it was recorded (eg 1851 census would be 
at 1851) in the location field; thus, my locations comprise:

House & street, hamlet, village, district, town/city, county, country (the 
latter being England, Scotland etc.) more specificlly which ever of these is 
known.

Not only does this appear correctly in reports and web pages but gives the best 
result with the mapping function - in particular including the street gives a 
high success rate with the mapping - whether your option 3 would do the latter 
I do not know and your best bet is to try it.

The mapping function has problems finding a location of Town, County. Country.


Ron Ferguson

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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] How do people record addresses in an 'Event'?
> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:44:38 +0100
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> What are people's preferences for recording addresses in an event? (I'm not
> talking about Birth, Christening, Death, Burial etc. which seem to be
> treated differently in reports, but 'ordinary events'.) If you go to the
> detailed screen of an 'event', it seems to be sensible to me to put the
> 'geo-location in the 'place' field, e.g., Tamworth, , Staffordshire,
> England. If you want to add details of the address, it appears to me that
> you can do one of three things:
>
> 1) Use the Address field (by clicking on the House/phone icon at the top of
> the page
> 2) Type the full address in the 'Notes' section in the large centre square
> 3) Type the first part of the address in the 'Description' field.
>
> At present, I am leaning towards 3) for a number of reasons. If you
> generate a report and want the full address, by using the address field you
> get the full address plus the 'geo-location'. A similar thing happens if
> you use the 'notes' (which in any case, I like to reserve for other things).
> If you use the 'Description' field, it seems to read better e.g. "He resided
> at 123, Fore Street from about 1066 to 1099, in Tamworth, , Staffordshire,
> England"
>
> I would be interested to hear from people as to how they input addresses,
> and why they choose a particular preference.
>
> Best wishes
>
> David
>
> *
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RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[Sherry/Support]

I own/moderate several Yahoo! groups. They have their own problems no
list or forum is perfect.


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Guercio
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

To the Millenia Company- One suggestion would be to sign up for yahoo
groups.  It's free, well known, has many features which people have
mentioned a desire for, and it free.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Book- Evidence Explained

[Janis Gilmore]

John,

You can download the pdf for $24.95 at
http://www.footnote.com/evidenceexplained.php?xid=67 (from Footnote.com).

You can purchase the book anywhere, including Barnes and Noble at
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Evidence-Explained/Elizabeth-Shown-Mills/e/
9780806317816/?itm=1

I have the hardback on my shelf and the pdf in my computer - but I actually
use the pdf by far the most.

Janis Walker Gilmore

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Book- Evidence Explained

Frequent mention is made of the book "Evidence Explained".

Where might I get a copy?

Sent:  June 8,2008 at 1144hrs., PDT

John
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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Help sourcing International Certificate of Inoculation & Vaccination Card; Source original copies

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Ann,

I agree with you that the "Artifacts > Privately held" template would be the
one to choose.

I think the template you are looking for regarding the letter is the
"Letters > Historic > Privately held" template.

Thanks,

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To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] V7 Help sourcing International Certificate of
Inoculation & Vaccination Card; Source original copies

I have the original of a card that has on the front:
International Certificate of Inoculation and Vaccination as approved by 
World Health Organization and The Pan American Sanitary Organization. It has

the traveler's name, address, DOB typed in and the traveler's signature. 
Below this is Federal Security Agency U.S. Public Health Service For sale by

the superintendent of documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Washington,

D. C. - Price $1.25 per 100 copies. Below this is PHS-731 (IHR) Rev. 12-48
On the back is area for the physician to write in the nature of the vaccine,

date, dose, physician's signature. This has the entries in handwriting.

I did not find what to use in the SourceWriter. I looked at Evidence 
Explained and did not see what might fit. I looked at Passports p. 619 and 
Chapter 3 Archives & Artifacts.

Another problem is EE has very little for when you have the original 
document. I would appreciate ideas on how to source when you have the 
original document. I used SourceWriter for a letter and it enters privately 
held by the person the letter was written to. That person is deceased and I 
have the original. I used the override to change to privately held and my 
name.

Thank you,
Ann Parsons
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RE: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

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It all depends on *when* you purchased Legacy v6.  Please contact Sales to
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I have been off of the email list for quite some time and have just now 
rejoined so please forgive me if this question has been asked a gazillion 
times.

I thought that those persons that have bought Version 6 would get a FREE 
upgrade to Version 7?  What happened with that?  I just went to the web site

to upgrade and I have to pay.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Mapping

[Cathy]

Hi Leo,

Some of your problems are yours and nothing to do with Legacy 
Mapping. If you have to sort out hospitals that have moved that's 
your data entry problem - they always did have different locations/addresses.


Re correcting locations on the Map.
It has been said often now and will no doubt have to be said a lot 
more times - you can't change the position of the Pin when you are 
looking at the map for an individual. You need to use the Resolve 
button and go to the Master Location List.


If the place has been mis auto coded, then click the Geo code button 
and choose the option to not auto-code this location. That removes 
the coordinates.
Then find the place on the map and right click where you want the pin 
and accept that. Done


I agree that the Auto-code options are dangerous and not very 
helpful. If you do autocode, you need to go right through the Master 
Location list and verify every one.
It's a VE problem far more than a Legacy problem. VE does not 
recognise historical place names and doesn't always find current 
places. I'm afraid I'm old enough to be impressed that it finds any 
automatically and when it fails, I don't find it irksome to find the 
place myself. If I know where it is, it takes moments, if I don't, I 
get to learn something new.


Cathy

At 12:02 AM 8/06/2008, you wrote:


I have installed the new Legacy 7.0.0.45 and have tried using the 
new mapping feature, this may become a very usefull tool in the 
future when some of the kinks get worked out.
I live on the western end of Prince Edward Island, Canada and have a 
large portion of the people in my data base that live on P.E.I.
I have tried the mapping feature a few times with some of my 
immediate family members, I do like the idea of being able to see 
where each event in a families past has occured. I find, however, to 
achieve this will require a great deal of work on my part by 
entering the proper coordinates. I do have a lot of the correct 
coordinates entered, but some will requier some modifications.

I have found several problems with the new mapping feature;
1. When I select a married family member and click the mapping 
button it will automatically add a Geo-code to places that had no 
coordinates listed. This would be great if it entered the proper 
coordinates. I have noticed that some of my local areas in western 
P.E.I. are now appearing in Calgary, Alberta; Elmsdale, Nova Scotia; 
as well as in Newfoundland, Canada. If I do not correct the 
coordinates immediately then I will find places like the Maplewood 
manor, Alberton, Lot 4, Prince County, P.E.I, Canada is now located 
in Glengarry, Calgary, Alberta, Canada right in the middle of a busy 
highway, I now feel sorry for the poor seniors who live in that 
building. For the locations that do not have any coordinates listed 
the program should show where the new location is on the map and ask 
if you want accept it, modify it or reject it before it changes the 
coordinates.
2. In order to change where a Pin is located you have to change the 
coordinates. Someone on the list suggested that if you right click 
on the correct location and then you can change the pin location, 
this does not work. I find that now when one of the pins has been 
place in the wrong place it is very time consuming trying to move it 
back to the correct location by clicking: resolve>edit>enter 
Lat/Long>Save>Close>the new map is zoomed out>zoom in>realign the 
pin>zoom in. The final result may be still not in the correct 
location and then you have to repear this process several more times 
to reach the correct location. It would be a nice feature to be able 
to click on a pin and drag it to the correct location.
3. I have a lot of people listed in my program who were born in the 
Prince County Hospital, Summerside, Lot 17, Prince County, P.E.I, 
Canada, this is how I have them entered, the mapping program has now 
entered the incorrect coordinates for the hospital and I now have to 
set the correct coordinates to match where it is located, my problem 
now is that over the history of Summerside there has been at least 
three buildings called the Prince County Hospital and each has been 
in three different locations. I will now have to enter three 
different addresses, one for each hospital using three different 
coordinates. Next I fill have to do a search for everyone who has 
had an event (birth, death, etc.) that occured in the Prince County 
Hospital, check the date it occured and then assign the correct 
hospital to the event. With a data base of nearly 60,000 people this 
may be very time consuming. I also have the same problem with the 
O'Leary Community Hospital, two different buildings, two different 
locations, both with the same name.

I now have my work cut out for me.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

[JLB]

I don't know if this is what you're looking for:  If you have the new 
Source Writer system turned on, and you open a Master Source from either 
the Master Source List or an Assigned Sources window you can then click 
the Add a new source button and it will bring up the Source Writer 
window.  If you make that window smaller it will be on top of the Master 
Source Window so you can see both at the same time and work from one to 
the other.  After conversion, the old can be merged into the new.  I 
haven't worked with this alot yet, but the other day I was having a try 
at what it would take to manually convert my old sources.  Alot of work 
it looks like and I gave it up because there were too many new boxes and 
decisions to make.  So, later.


JL

Thomas Herson wrote:

JLB,

Can you tell me how to open the "Add a New Source" window while the 
"Master Source Definition" window is open? Perhaps I'm doing something 
wrong.


Thanks,

Tom

- Original Message - From: "JLB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool


One at a time.  Start a new source so there's a small box on top of 
your main screen for that and you can still see the old source.  Then 
either re-type or copy and paste one section at a time from the old 
fields to the new ones.  Repeat x-hundred times.  See you in about 5 
years.

--
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JD Liddil wrote:

In the mean time does nayone have suggetions on techniques to do this
conversion manually?

JD

On 6/5/08, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bob,

It's still work in progress - so not there as yet


Ron Ferguson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:43:20 +0100

I am sure I am being incredibly dense, but I can't locate the Source
Template Conversion Tool (in Master Source List> Options, 
according to the

manual).

I have the SourceWriter System switched on in Customise.

Regards

Bob Howes
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[LegacyUG] Ver 7 source detail on reports

[Dede Holden]

I first asked this question on Saturday and had no response.  Maybe my
question was too long.  I do know that the Legacy server is swamped
and many things have been held up so I've waited this long to repost.
(It's Tuesday morning.) I'll try to rephrase briefly.

On Reports, I'd like for the Master Source Text/Comments to be shown
the first time a source is cited only.  I have that option checked.
I want the Source Detail to print, also.

But I'm getting the Master Source Text/Comments every time the source
is cited and the Source Detail from the first citation only on the
first citation.  When the Source Detail changes with subsequent
citations of the source, the Detail does not appear on the report,
even when it is the first time this detail has been cited.

Since there are several places that this option can be turned on or
off, I don't know if :

1) I've missed something
2) I've misunderstood the purpose of the option
3) This is a bug

I have been testing this on Family Group Reports.


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RE: [LegacyUG] V7 Deluxe - Restore Multimedia Files - problem

[Rodney Hall]

Pauline,

It may be that the mail on this list is so abysmally slow that no-one has
even seen it yet! I have had my messages to the list not appear for 36 hours
- never mind a reply.
I have almost given up on trying to support enquiries.

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Sent: 09 June 2008 00:43
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V7 Deluxe - Restore Multimedia Files - problem

The message describing a problem with V7 Deluxe not restoring multimedia 
backup was posted by KathyB over 48 hours ago, but I have not yet seen 
anyone address the problem. 
This is scary.  Is this a known bug?  Has anyone looked at her message 
and investigated the problem?
I have had the capability to download v7 for five days, but I am waiting 
to see a resolution to this problem.

Pauline

KathyB wrote:
> Have Version 7 and thought I'd try out the backup and restore function 
> of the program since I have a new laptop that I want to put the 
> program and files on.
>
> I was able to successfully back-up the family file and the multimedia 
> files on my main computer, put them on a flash drive, then downloaded 
> and installed Legacy V7 Deluxe. I then did the restore function - BUT 
> it only restored the family file itself, and not the multimedia files.
>
> The "help" file says :
> 1. Choose Restore Family File... from the File menu.  The Select a 
> Family File or Multimedia Backup to Restore dialog appears.
>> From the Restore Location dialog box, specify the drive and directory 
>> where 
> you want the restored Family File or Multimedia files placed.
>
> So, I did that, but it only restored the family file. If I try it 
> again, and this time select the multimedia file to restore, it tells 
> me there is no family file in that file to restore.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Kathy
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Unknowns

[ronald ferguson]

JL,

Whilst I prefer to use a blank, using "Unknown" does not cause a problem in 
reports, it treats it as in Version 6. It is simply that the Potential Problem 
Report (AKA Mrs Mills ?)doesn't like them.


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> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:50:54 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unknowns
>
> What I don't like about using the word "Un-named" is that it suggests
> the person was not given a name. They most likely were if they lived
> longer than a few days, but at this juncture from this point of view
> it's UNKNOWN. Are the reports at all flexible about which word can be
> used or do I have to do a Search & Replace in a text editor?
>
> JL
>
> Allen Prunty wrote:
>> I leave either the surname or the given name blank if it's unknown...
>> the narrative will read out on the reports...
>>
>> Un-named Smith was a child of Jane Jones and John Smith born 1920
>> died 1920 (stillborn).
>>
>> Legacy is intelligent enough to handle it when you print reports.
>>
>> I also have better luck with familysearch.org when I leave the unknown
>> stuff blanked out like this.
>>
>> Allen
>>
>> --
>> From: "JLB" 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:41 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Unknowns
>>
>>> v.7 doesn't like people named Unknown either first name or last.
>>> What to do instead? Son/Daughter works when the sex is known. What
>>> for the unknowns? Could-Be-Either? What about unknown first names
>>> of Husbands? Still Son? What's wrong with Unknown? What for the
>>> unknown last names? Nothing?
>>> --
>>> JL
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RE: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages

[Brian Lightfoot]

Yup. Doubled up here for what appears to be about 1/2 a day's postings.



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Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages

I am receiving 2 copies of every message on the Legacy User group.  I use
Outlook 2007 and it has been a little cranky lately, but I belong to other
mailing lists as well and Legacy is the only one consistently showing up
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Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[John Carter]

One possible solution to the mailing list versus online forum debate is a
Yahoo forum, which offers most of the options that have been asked for.

You can choose to get the postings in 3 different ways:
- individual emails (just as the current list)
- daily digest (something that has been requested)
- web only (with the option of getting forum admin emails, such as "will
be down for maintenance")
In the online forum, the messages are threaded by topic.

The downsides are the ads that are displayed when reading online (but
that's the price of a free forum) and not having notification of replies
to a message.  (I don't know how good/bad the email options are, as I have
never used them.)

John

> YES!  This is exactly what we don't need!.  Please please can we have this
> NOT?
> There are many of us who loathe using an on line support forum.  I
> prefer to read messages via email rather that waste my time logging on
> to a forum to see if there are any message that I have absolutely no
> interest in.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ron Bernier
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Judith H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>YES!  This is exactly what we need!  Please please can we have this?
>> Geoff?
>
>
> ---Original Message---
> From: Brian Lightfoot
> Date: 6/7/2008 4:17:39 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?
> What you are asking for is a support forum with threaded subjects,
> something
> that many other companies with products and services have already set up.
> For example, there could be specific categories for sources, one for bug
> reports, one for installation problems, one for charting, etc. In
> addition,
> such forums tend to eliminate the users receiving copies of each and every
> message posted, including those messages to which the user has no
> interest.
> Many forums allow the user to specify something along the lines of  notify
> me of all responses to this message  which means they would receive an
> e-mail notification about the message subject to which they have expressed
> an interest. On the downside, what the user may miss is a new subject
> opened
> to which they may have a great interest but have no knowledge that it was
> ever posted. This requires the user to visit the forum web site to check
> for
> new subject matter being posted. Why Millenia has not gone this route is a
> mystery to many of us as it would eliminate the constantly repeating
> message
> of  plain text only , etc. Maybe we ll see it sometime in the future.
> Brian
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[Cathy]

The quickest way to recover from something like this is to restore your backup.
If you don't have one from when you started doing this sourcing, then 
this is a reminder to make more frequent backups, especially when 
trying new features.


The slower way if you don't have a backup is to show list for the 
affected Source(s) and slowly work through the people one by one 
reconstructing and re-entering the other source and deleting this mixed up one.


Cathy

At 04:18 AM 8/06/2008, you wrote:
Something weird has happened when I try to cite a source.  As I was 
inputing a Master Source for a birth index this morning, I think I 
indadvertently touched the Combine Highlighted Source with Another 
in the List.  (don't ask me how that happened) Now this person's 
source information for the birth index appears on the Assigned 
sources output tab area in several of other family member's screens 
when I point to not only the Master Source birth index I 
entered,  but also other Master Sources also.   When I try to edit 
source, the actual source edit area is correct, and doesn't include 
the birth index of my initial input.Anyone know how to fix 
this?IE:...now on Master Source List, pointing to Texas Birth 
Index, it says after clicking the output tab, the name, birth date, 
vol number, cert # of my initial family member input this morning 
(who is from Kentucky and was never in Texas)  It also has the 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs

[Robert57P via Gmail]

Colin,

Check here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Videos.asp

I've bought them (both sets) and gone through some.  Very well done.

Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Colin Liddell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Legacy User Group" 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


Interesting. I received my V7 CD and hard copy of the manual last
week but there was no flyer in there about a set of CDs for $32.95.
Would you give me more information on this offer please, ie. which CDs were
on offer for this price?

Colin in a wet Brisbane.
 - Original Message - 
 From: G OLIVE

 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


 Geoff,
 I just received my Hard copy V7 Book w/CD. In the packet was a flyer
offering to sell the CD's in the first set for $32.95 OR $9.95 each. It
makes sense what you are saying so I'll go for the set.
 Thanks,
 GO


 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   Sounds like a fun idea. Well, they're not sold separately, but you might
be able to request individual CDs by calling the 800 number. However, the
way the CD videos were designed is so they build on each other. In other
words, if you wanted to take an all-day seminar on just Legacy, you would
begin with the basics, progress to the next level, and at the end you'll
have everything you need for a strong foundation. So…watching the CDs
randomly is probably okay, but you'll benefit the most by watching them in
the order in which they are listed at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=4.



   Thanks,



   Geoff Rasmussen

   Millennia Corporation

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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:15 PM


   To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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   Geoff,
   Is it possible to purchase individual CD's or pick a group of 3-4? Sort
of pick your own bundle?
   GO

   On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Geoff Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   We'll get right on it Bob. :)

   We took some great pictures of the shipping department today. It is
pretty
   crazy around here.

   Actually, merging, combining, splitting, etc. would make a great CD.

   Thanks,

   Geoff Rasmussen
   Millennia Corporation
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Robert57P
   via Gmail
   Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:52 PM
   To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Training CDs


   Legacy team,

   1)
   I haven't viewed the training CDs yet, but I have looked at the TOC of
   each.  I don't see anything that specifically covers:
   IMPORT
   MERGE
   DUP
   IntelliShare
   GEDCOM

   I would think all of these would be related and would deserve their own
   section (or even their own CD??).  I know in the old versions, at least
   there was a section on GEDCOMS in the BEGINNERs lesson - though I don't
   recall if that including merging and such.  Just a thought for a new
product
   in case you don't have anything to do right now (ha ha ha).

   Thanks again for all your hard work and good product.
   Bob





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[LegacyUG] IE6 updates - was: new FamilySearch integration?

[John Carter]

Yes.

> Is Microsoft even doing security updates for IE6?
>
> Art Seddon





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Re: [LegacyUG] Spelling Checker in Sources Legacy 7 BOMBS

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Allen,

No such trouble here with just 1 GB and IE7 running.

Richard

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Allen Prunty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I always put the complete obituary text in the optional notes of ever
> obituary in my file.  I clicked on the spelling checker and get error -7 out
> of memory.
>
> I have 4gb memory and legacy is the only thing running?
>
> Anyone else having trouble?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 Cannot set Location for Document Files

[Brian/Support]

Pat,

The problem you reported has been tested and is confirmed as a bug. A 
report has been recorded in our problem tracking system so this can be 
fixed. Susan forwarded this to our Bug reporting system.


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Thanks.

Pat Walker wrote:
I just realized that when I change the directory/location for Document 
Files--it does not show up--after being saved.  Anyone else have this 
problem?  Am I doing something wrong?  I click on change (have even 
tried reset, then change) and then browse to the location of my document 
files.


Then I click save and when I go back into Options, Customize, Locations, 
the Documents Files box is blank.


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Re: [LegacyUG] V 7 Ancestor Book Report Problem

[Cathy]

Hi Judy,

Are you using 7.0.0.45?
I can't reproduce it here but you could be right as there are so many 
options and changing an option or two can trigger different problems. 
Some weeks ago there was a problem with missing marriages in one of 
the reports, I can't recall which, but that was fixed.


Try the report with the default settings.
If you still have the problem, try deleting the ances.usr file and 
setting your options again.


Cathy

At 09:00 AM 8/06/2008, you wrote:
In creating an Ancestor Book Report in V6, the primary individual, 
in each generation (i.e. primary, primary's father, primary's 
grandfather) are completely listed with birthdate, marriage and death.


But in V7, the primary individual is listed only by name, in every 
generation past the first - no birth, marriage or death information.


I can reproduce this with any Ancestor Book Report I do in V7.  Have 
I missed something or is this a possible bug in an otherwise great program.


Judy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?

[Cathy]

If there ever is a forum for Legacy, hopefully it will be set up like 
the Rootsweb ones and gatewayed to a mailing list so you never have 
to go to it.
However, in my experience of Rootsweb, messages gatewayed from the 
Boards are generally from beginners and almost impossible to respond 
to except to ask for clarification of their problem or request.


Message Boards are so much more time consuming. Perhaps my 
perspective was set when I was on dial up. Message Boards are so slow 
to use compared to email. However, I still am usually frustrated by 
trying to find stuff on Message Boards to the point I give up.


With a mailing list you can sort very quickly in so many different 
ways - certainly necessary at the moment with the mail delays.


Cheers,
Cathy

At 04:39 AM 9/06/2008, you wrote:
YES!  This is exactly what we don't need!.  Please please can we 
have this NOT?

There are many of us who loathe using an on line support forum.  I
prefer to read messages via email rather that waste my time logging on
to a forum to see if there are any message that I have absolutely no
interest in.

--
Regards,
Ron Bernier


On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Judith H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>YES!  This is exactly what we need!  Please please can we have this? Geoff?


---Original Message---
From: Brian Lightfoot
Date: 6/7/2008 4:17:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Email list for legacy solutions only?
What you are asking for is a support forum with threaded subjects, something
that many other companies with products and services have already set up.
For example, there could be specific categories for sources, one for bug
reports, one for installation problems, one for charting, etc. In addition,
such forums tend to eliminate the users receiving copies of each and every
message posted, including those messages to which the user has no interest.
Many forums allow the user to specify something along the lines of  notify
me of all responses to this message  which means they would receive an
e-mail notification about the message subject to which they have expressed
an interest. On the downside, what the user may miss is a new subject opened
to which they may have a great interest but have no knowledge that it was
ever posted. This requires the user to visit the forum web site to check for
new subject matter being posted. Why Millenia has not gone this route is a
mystery to many of us as it would eliminate the constantly repeating message
of  plain text only , etc. Maybe we ll see it sometime in the future.
Brian



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)

[Jenny M Benson]

Allen Prunty wrote
If the publisher's colophon is intact and you know who the original 
publisher, author, where the book was published, and all other 
information relevant to the source I would enter it just as you would 
source the book... then enter the website as the repository.


I rather like that idea and think it could be adapted for several types 
of record found on websites.  However, I think it is important to 
indicate somewhere whether the website is carrying some sort of 
transcription (where inaccuracies are possible) or images of the 
original.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Purchase Price

[Roger Lewis]

Pick up  the phone and call them

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brenda Kellow 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:56 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Purchase Price


  I bought 7.0 Deluxe for the $39.95 price early in the morning the first day 
it was offered, June 3, and I have yet to receive my customer password or 
receipt. Customer Service has not answered two emails asking for an 
explanation. Any comments

   

  Brenda 

   

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
Failmezger
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:49 AM
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  Subject: [LegacyUG] Version 7 - Purchase Price

   

  I purchased the download upgrade to Version 7 from the legacy store for 
$29.95. Two days later I get an e-mail that I can purchase the upgrade for 
$21.95.

   

  How can I get my $8 dollars back?

   

  Scott

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[LegacyUG] Spell-checking in Legacy

[Meg Greenwood]

Bob - "Dew knot trussed yore spell-chequer".  Does the spell checker 
recognize : eMail, GB, 'net, jpg, FHC and the like ?  Can you teach it 
these 'knew' words ???   Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma

==

Bob Janice wrote:
Allen,   Works fine for me - just spell checked the general notes that 
I have for my mother with no problems.   Bob






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RE: [LegacyUG] v 6 - Loss of Master Sources

[Jack Earnshaw]

I would think the easiest is to
- Search for all entries added or modified after yesterday
- Restore your backup to a new file
- then copy/merge or just retype your "today's work" into the restored file

Jack

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 08 June 2008 16:52
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] v 6 - Loss of Master Sources

While adding new information today I somehow managed to delete ALL my Master
Sources! Fortunately, I have a backup. The backup does not include today's
work.
 
I'd appreciate suggestions on the easiest way to restore my Master Source
file.
 
Thanx.

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Re: [LegacyUG] to-do list by location - multiple sendings

[John Carter]

I suggest that you check whether your ISP or mail software is ignoring
your emails when they come back via the list.

I've received email from you via the list server with the following
time/date info:
8:32PM 6-6
12:33PM 6-7
3:49PM 6-7
10:32AM 6-8

John

> It is getting ridiculous! I have sent messages 38 hours ago, 22 hours ago,
> and 19 hours ago and none have them have appeared. Obviously, Millennia's
> mail server needs some maintenance.
>
> ___
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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 35603: Invalid key

[Sherry/Support]

Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Solutions by
Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message, among
others.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 35603: Invalid key

When I try the same report, I get
Run-time error '339':
and
Component 'MSCOMCTL..OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly
registered: a file is missing or invalid
When I click on "OK" Legacy terminates
I tried a reinstall but still get the same message & results.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 --- PLEASE!

[G OLIVE]

Another option would be to unsubscribe from your current email address. Then
create a free email account with gmail or whoever and subscribe to that one.
This way you can just check that account and know that everything coming in
or going out is the LUG.
GO

On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Gary Crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I was away from my computer for 1 (one) day and came back to find over
> 200 e-mails in my Legacy folder. It has taken me hours to sift through the
> ones of interest.
>
> I set up a new folder for anything concerning the new release of Legacy 7
> and a filter to shuttle those to this new folder. I know I'm likely not the
> only one with this problem of subject titles. I only have a limited number
> of 25 filter options left available from my ISP. I know this isn't going to
> do any good to ask, but could listers be consistent in the subject line by
> using Legacy 7 only?
>
> So far I've found the following in the subject line   Legacy 7;  v7;  V7;
> v.7;  Version 7. If listers would PLEASE use only Legacy 7 in the subject
> line I'm sure it would simplify life for all of us trying to filter our
> Legacy posts into manageable folders.
>
> As I said, I know it will likely fall on deaf ears, but at least I
> tried
>
> gc
>
>
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] More With Sources

[Laurel]

I've been trying to get this additional info. to print also and have had no 
luck.  I have gone through customize, options, reports, etc.. and have 
ticked "to include" just about everything in my reports (I like everything 
to print!) and still I am missing information on my reports.  I have 
compared sources created on the old basic source system, to the same source 
created on the new source writer, and I find I like the way the basic source 
system looks on reports better.  I am thinking of sticking to the old tried 
and true, unless I am doing something wrong for additional info. not to 
print.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:43 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] More With Sources


I'm having trouble getting Source Writer entered cites to print according 
to my preferences on the reports.


For instance, for the family group sheet, under "sources," if I have the 
boxes checked to print the repository, recorded date, and file ID, these 
things print for the non-Source Writer cites, but anything created with 
Source Writer doesn't print this additional information.





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Re: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again

[Robert57P via Gmail]

This free upgrade to version 7 only applied if you purchased version 6 
during a specific time window (I think it was mid-June of last year until 
late May of this year??)


If you purchased version 6 during this time and haven't rcvd anything, I 
suggest you call Millennia.  Note that last we heard, they were still 
working on getting all of the notices sent out for the downloaders, but I 
believe they've completed sending out all the pre-paid CDs.  The download 
e-mail notices took longer than planned because they had to send them out 
individually.  (If you purchased the download version, make sure you check 
your SPAM/JUNK e-mail folders before you call them.)


Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Michele Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Legacy E-Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] I just joined the group again


I have been off of the email list for quite some time and have just now 
rejoined so please forgive me if this question has been asked a gazillion 
times.


I thought that those persons that have bought Version 6 would get a FREE 
upgrade to Version 7?  What happened with that?  I just went to the web 
site to upgrade and I have to pay.


michele



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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Kirsten Bowman]

John:

I've read _Evidence Explained_ and don't think it's all that US-centric.
There are census formats for Australia, Canada, England, France, Germany,
Italy, Spain, Sweden, and Wales.  There are also Index listings for records
of each of these countries (i.e. "Australia, records of") as well as Israel
and Ireland and possibly others although I didn't do an exhaustive search.
Source citations for things like Family Bibles, correspondence, heirlooms,
or LDS records should apply across the board.  Perhaps you could find or
order a copy through your library and check to see if it seems helpful.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gen
Searcher
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:55 AM
To: Legacy Email List
Subject: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills


Hello Listers

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
Manchester
England







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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)

[Robert57P via Gmail]

Someone once explained it to me this way:
You want to document the actual "end product" (or "beginning product" - 
depends on your viewpoint!) as the source.


Just because you happen to find it on the web or in a database is immaterial 
to the "end product" itself.  That would be like finding book "A" at the 
local town library and again finding the same book at the big-city library. 
The Library (ie: the internet, the database) is not the source - the book 
is.  The Library (or internet site or database) is the repository (ie: where 
you found the book or where you found the section of the book).  So the 
repository is "where you read it", the book (or original book if it is a 
"snippet") is the source.


Bob


- Original Message - 
From: "Allen Prunty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)


If the publisher's colophon is intact and you know who the original 
publisher, author, where the book was published, and all other information 
relevant to the source I would enter it just as you would source the 
book... then enter the website as the repository.


I also would strongly suggest using Adobe PDF (Full version) to create a 
PDF of the website to store (since they have a habit of going down) or 
creating a web archive (MHT) file with internet explorer to preserve the 
website for your use only not to be distributed.  I have accessed some 
wonderful sites in the past that are no more.  Also... websites that 
disappear over time can also be accessed from http://www.archive.org which 
is also known as the internet way-back machine.


To me there's nothing so frustrating when I am grading papers as not being 
able to find the "root" source... in this case the book is the "root" 
source the website is nothing more than a repository like the library.


Allen

--
From: "Gene Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)


MICHELLE CROSBY wrote:
Being new to Legacy, I am just now playing with the new feature the 
Sourcewriter.  I never really documented my source in any type of
way- here is my question.  On the Iowa Genweb site is the transcript of 
a book on Allamakee County Cemetery Records.  This book was
written by Dale P. Woodmansee, 1989.  People have entered his work on 
the site.  So would the source be a data base or a book-



Your source would be where you read the information.  In this case an 
online source, that being a transcription of the original book.  If at 
sometime in the future you actually read the book, then the book would 
become your source.


--
Gene Y.
n2kvs
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Re: [LegacyUG] Manual version 7

[Dermot McGlone]

Mark,

You can purchase the v7 manual by going to the legacy store
(http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1440).  When there,
select "Legacy Products" on the menu on the left of screen, and scroll
down to "Legacy Family Tree 7.0 User's guide", at a cost of USD14.95,
or Legacy Family Tree 7.0 User's Guide (Download Only) at a cost of
USD9.95 (This is a PDF version, which can be stored on your computer,
and read with Adobe Reader or other similar software).

Regards,

Dermot.


2008/6/8 Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is there a manual that you can download for version 7 and if so where can I
> download it?
>
> Mark



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Re: [LegacyUG] Book- Evidence Explained

[Jenny M Benson]

John Gregson wrote

Frequent mention is made of the book "Evidence Explained".

Where might I get a copy?



A bookshop.  A library.  Amazon.  Barnes & Noble.  Abebooks.
--
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[LegacyUG] Password Thank You

[marilyn E B]

While I have tried to send each of you who sent me the password a thank you,
I might have missed some one. The answer is still coming in from around the
world and as this will probably take just as long to reach all of you, I
will probably get a few more. Thank you for taking the time to answer my
request for help. I have completed my download and love what I have found so
far.

Thanks again,
Marilyn

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There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our children. One of
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages

[Robert57P via Gmail]

I thought I was going crazy (or clairvoyant ), because a lot of the msgs 
seemed to be the same that I had already read!  At first I figured it was 
just impatient people sending the same msg out twice, but it is happening 
too often and w too many people for that.


BUT - based on your e-mail I sorted my list by the sender and looked for 
dups - and I'm not seeing any!?!?!?  I also tried sorting by SUBJECT and 
glanced here/there (i.e.: didn't look at entire list) and I don't see any 
dups!  Maybe I am 'flipping out'!


'course it is possible the server is resending them and somehow replacing 
the existing ones on my PC (due to e-mail internal ID)  . . . but that would 
be really weird.


Maybe its just 'cause the list is so active and so many msgs are being 
replied to by multiple people - that we are just THINKING we are seeing the 
same source e-mail more than once . . .??


Bob


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To: 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate messages



I am receiving 2 copies of every message on the Legacy User group.  I use
Outlook 2007 and it has been a little cranky lately, but I belong to other
mailing lists as well and Legacy is the only one consistently showing up
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Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Gen Searcher]

Dave
I saw a copy on Amazon the £12.90p (GBP)
I will think of buying it if enough people tell me its worth it.
At the moment I have had one who thinks it is
Regards
John
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To: 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills


> On 8 Jun 2008 at 14:54, Gen Searcher  
> wrote:
> 
>> Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA 
>> centric
>> Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
> 
> I am also interested in this question as I am contemplating buying it. FYI - 
> there is a 
> website something like footnotes.com which is selling the pdf version for 
> US$24 which 
> is a lot cheaper than having to pay US$50 for the paper copy plus shipping to 
> the other 
> side of the world.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Dave]

May I ask what this has to do with the use of Legacy and its add-on's?
The volume of messages on this list is already in overload!



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Searcher
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

Hello Listers

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
Manchester
England



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