RE: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from Location

2009-09-09 Thread M. Brenzel
And I ditto these comments from Ron.  This is the same approach that I
adopted quite awhile ago.

Mary

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Bill,
 
I regret to say that you are likely to get many conflicting answers to this
one!
 
Personally, I only use the Address Fields as an address book - hence only
for living people. I include the full address in the Location Field, in
which I include House, and Street as well as Town, City, County, Country
(I'm from England).
 
Why? Mainly because the Address Fields do not appear in many reports. I also
find the mapping, in general, more accurate when the full address is in the
Location Field.

Whilst some believe in trying to get the use of the Address Fields improved,
I'm afraid I would rather adopt a pragmatic approach :-).

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving Street Addresses and Location Names from
Location
 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:00 -0400








 I know this is going to be
 confusing which is why I can't find it in the Help of Legacy. I looked at
 a tutorial online at the Legacy website and found that it was recommended
 that cemetery names be moved from the Buried field leaving only the city
 and state. A spent a long time putting them there in FTM 2009 because it
 seemed appropriate, but I can understand why they shouldn't be there
 now.



 Multiple Questions on this
 one:



 1) I tagged all the
 cemeteries that need to have their name moved by clicking on the plus
 sign. Is there a way I can first show all the tagged items and start
 moving cemetery names from there. I can't find anything within the program
 that lets you show tagged items only so what's the point of tagging if you
 can't?



 2) Should this be
 done for all locations including residences where the person lived? I have
 a lot of those and just started, but didn't finish because I don't want to
have
 to revert back with hundreds of them.



 3) Are mailing list
 addresses just for living people or residences where the person lived
(i.e.,
 census, death notices, etc.). This question kind of goes with item
 2.



 4) Master List
 Location list: only city and state?



 I'm finding this very
 confusing. I think I'm going to have to purchase and download the PDF
 manual then read the entire thing.



 Bill
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RE: [LegacyUG] Find-A-Grave ID #

2009-08-09 Thread M. Brenzel
I have Find A Grave as a source for burial and put the ID # in the Source
Detail.

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Have found many ancestors on Find-A-Grave (and have entered many) -
and believe it would be of use to have the Find-A-Grave ID # in my
Legacy file for each individual I find.  I realize tombstones are NOT
proof and can be wrong - but it is a good place to anchor some
research.  I put the number in Research Notes but find this a bit of a
problem - anyone with a good idea where else it might fit?   It is not
really an event but ...

Opinions?

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RE: [LegacyUG] test

2009-07-07 Thread M. Brenzel
Kim,

 

I believe that it is because you use Gmail.  Your own message will not be
sent to you.

 

Mary

 

 

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Of Kim Austin
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:36 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] test

 

sent an email yesterday, never got a response and didn't see it come up in
the user group.

Testing 123, Testing 123

Kim





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[LegacyUG] Web pages - linking to another set of pages

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
I currently have pedigree style web pages stored on my ISP server.  I link
to them from a home page on Geocities which recently announced that free
web hosting will be ending this summer.  From my current home page, I also
link to a set of pedigree pages for an unconnected people database.  These
are people that I have found with the same surnames and locations as people
definitely connected to me.

Because Geocities is going away, I want the index.html of my main family
database to be my main website page but I'd like to place a link on it to
the unconnected pages.  Can a link be coded in the web pages setup in Legacy
or do I have to manually add the html hyperlink tags after the pages are
created?

Does this make sense?

Mary 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - linking to another set of pages

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
Dennis and Ron,

Thanks for your suggestions.  I'll give it a try.  I have to sign off now
but I'll be back later.  I know that I have another web question pertaining
to the display of certain characters, such as bullets and foreign letters
with accents (like an umlaut).

Mary

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - linking to another set of pages






 From: kowal...@iglou.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - linking to another set of pages
 Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:52:16 -0400

 On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:45:20 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek
 wrote:

On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:20:47 -0400, M. Brenzel
 wrote:

I want the index.html of my main family
database to be my main website page but I'd like to place a link on it to
the unconnected pages. Can a link be coded in the web pages setup in
Legacy
or do I have to manually add the html hyperlink tags after the pages are
created?

If I understand you correctly, you can put the link in the Introduction
area on the Project tab (V6). If you want it to appear on every page,
you could place it in a Custom Header/Footer on the Links tab.


 Oh ... and remember to use those special double angle bracket characters
 ...  instead of .

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Actually the double brackets are not needed when using the web creation
pages as the output is sent direct, unchanged, to the web page.
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
I have now successfully linked my unconnected people webpages to my main
family pages.

Now for the other question.  Special characters such as bullets and letters
with accents are displaying incorrectly from my website.  They appear
correctly when I look at the the HTML pages on my computer but when I view
them after they are uploaded via FTP to my ISP, they appear as outlined
squares.

For example, I have the setup for pedigree-style web pages to display events
in list style using bullet points.  Once uploaded to my web server, the
bullets are no longer little dots but outlined squares.  Likewise, letters
with accents (French e's with accent acute or German u's with umlauts) also
appear as outlined squares instead of the correct letter.  They appear fine
when I look at the HTML files on my hard drive prior to uploading.

Perhaps my web server can't display the font that the files are being
created in?  Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks for any help with this one.

Mary

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - linking to another set of pages

Dennis and Ron,

Thanks for your suggestions.  I'll give it a try.  I have to sign off now
but I'll be back later.  I know that I have another web question pertaining
to the display of certain characters, such as bullets and foreign letters
with accents (like an umlaut).

Mary






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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
Sure, go to http://home.roadrunner.com/~brenzel/940.html.  The 'u' in
Wurttemberg is bad as well as all of the bullets in the Events list.

In addition, the surname list page at
http://home.roadrunner.com/~brenzel/surnames.html - look at BERUBE.  Both of
the E's should have accents.

Thanks for taking a look.

Mary

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Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

On Fri, 1 May 2009 14:29:46 -0400, M. Brenzel
brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:

I have now successfully linked my unconnected people webpages to my main
family pages.

Now for the other question.  Special characters such as bullets and letters
with accents are displaying incorrectly from my website.  They appear
correctly when I look at the the HTML pages on my computer but when I view
them after they are uploaded via FTP to my ISP, they appear as outlined
squares.

For example, I have the setup for pedigree-style web pages to display
events
in list style using bullet points.  Once uploaded to my web server, the
bullets are no longer little dots but outlined squares.  Likewise, letters
with accents (French e's with accent acute or German u's with umlauts) also
appear as outlined squares instead of the correct letter.  They appear fine
when I look at the HTML files on my hard drive prior to uploading.

Perhaps my web server can't display the font that the files are being
created in?  Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks for any help with this one.

Can you post a link to a page that isn't displaying correctly?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
Thank you, Dennis!  When I checked the source via View - Source, I see that
it is windows-1252.  I changed the View - Encoding to Auto-Select and now
it looks good.

Mary


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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

On Fri, 1 May 2009 14:52:29 -0400, M. Brenzel
brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:

Sure, go to http://home.roadrunner.com/~brenzel/940.html.  The 'u' in
Wurttemberg is bad as well as all of the bullets in the Events list.

In addition, the surname list page at
http://home.roadrunner.com/~brenzel/surnames.html - look at BERUBE.  Both
of
the E's should have accents.

Thanks for taking a look.

Actually, they look fine to me. This suggests that the problem is on
your PC. I would look at things like View Page Info and other places
which will tell you the character encoding that is being used to display
the page. I am getting windows-1252.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
No, they are all the same place.  The location in German has the umlaut.  I
just haven't updated other notations of it in other places in my database.

What really bothers me is that the encoding selection doesn't appear to be a
permanent setting that I can make in IE 8.  I have Auto-select on but it's
picking Unicode and for the pages with the special characters, it needs to
be Western European.  If I change it, close IE and then go back to the same
page, it's back to Unicode.

Mary


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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters


Mary,
 
I have been looking at the William Brenzel page and I see that the 'u' in
Wurttemberg in the 'Born'line does have an umlaut whereas that in Wurtemberg
(sic) on the IMMIGRATION line does not.
 
I note that in the Source the latter does not have the umlaut either - are
they different places?
 
BTW Windows codings are not always recognised properly by all browsers -
mind you it would take a few hours to change them all :-)



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 From: brenze...@roadrunner.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters
 Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:25:45 -0400

 Thank you, Dennis! When I checked the source via View - Source, I see
that
 it is windows-1252. I changed the View - Encoding to Auto-Select and now
 it looks good.

 Mary


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 Of Dennis M. Kowallek
 Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:09 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

 On Fri, 1 May 2009 14:52:29 -0400, M. Brenzel
 wrote:

Sure, go to http://home.roadrunner.com/~brenzel/940.html. The 'u' in
Wurttemberg is bad as well as all of the bullets in the Events list.

In addition, the surname list page at
http://home.roadrunner.com/~brenzel/surnames.html - look at BERUBE. Both
 of
the E's should have accents.

Thanks for taking a look.

 Actually, they look fine to me. This suggests that the problem is on
 your PC. I would look at things like View Page Info and other places
 which will tell you the character encoding that is being used to display
 the page. I am getting windows-1252.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
If that's what my web server sends out, then why isn't everyone else seeing
the characters the way I do, as Unicode?

Mary
 
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Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 7:57 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

On Fri, 1 May 2009 19:18:41 -0400, M. Brenzel
brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:

What really bothers me is that the encoding selection doesn't appear to be
a
permanent setting that I can make in IE 8.  I have Auto-select on but it's
picking Unicode and for the pages with the special characters, it needs to
be Western European.  If I change it, close IE and then go back to the same
page, it's back to Unicode.

Mary:

I took a look at the headers that were being returned by your web
server...

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 23:35:52 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
Last-Modified: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:05:47 GMT
ETag: e44e3d-1eb7-8009d8c0
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 7863
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

I think IE sees UTF-8 (unicode) and ignores the encoding in your META
tag.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537500(VS.85).aspx ...

By default, Internet Explorer uses the character set specified in the
HTTP content type returned by the server to determine this translation.
If this parameter is not given, Internet Explorer uses the character set
specified by the meta element in the document. It uses the user's
preferences if no meta element is specified.

I believe one way to fix this is with .htaccess.

http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-htaccess-charset#answer

This is probably an issue you want to take up with your ISP.

P.S. I used a little free program called WebBug from Aman Software to
view the HTTP response from your web server.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

2009-05-01 Thread M. Brenzel
I really appreciate your researching this more for me.  At least now I
understand what's happening.  Unfortunately, my web server belongs to a BIG
broadband company (my former employer).  I don't know who I could even
contact about this, let alone expect any kind of response.

Thanks again.

Mary

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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - display of special characters

On Fri, 1 May 2009 20:25:04 -0400, M. Brenzel
brenze...@roadrunner.com wrote:

If that's what my web server sends out, then why isn't everyone else seeing
the characters the way I do, as Unicode?

Just for yuks I saved your web page and uploaded it to my host.

http://kowallekfamily.com/temp/940.html

Now WebBug reports...

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 00:41:37 GMT
Server: Apache
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html

Notice my host doesn't send a charset. So IE will get the charset from
the META tag. And sure enough, IE displays the page properly this time.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Access

2009-04-21 Thread M. Brenzel
We are not all at the same level of experience with Legacy, with computers,
or with other software.  We all need to be tolerant of the questions and
answers on this list, as long as they are polite in nature.  I am a software
tester by profession and can write my own database query statements.
Information about the inner workings of the database are of interest to me
as I've done updates in my family database in Access.  Some of the questions
posed by people don't interest me and as long as there is a meaningful
subject on the email, I can quickly delete the messages.

As long as they are on topic, let's keep these discussions going.  If the
discussion is too technical for you, just delete the messages.

Mary 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Access

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:28:58 +0100, Jenny M Benson
ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:

LUGgers who are not interested in this topic don't have to read this 
thread.

And that's as it should be. I just know that, in the past, discussions
that got quite technical have generated complaints from uninterested
parties. I have been at the receiving end of some of those complaints,
which is why I posed the question.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

2009-03-08 Thread M. Brenzel
I submitted a bug through the Bug Submission Form and received a reply from
Brian after he confirmed that there was an issue.  Once it was confirmed, it
was entered into their problem tracking system.

Mary

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

Connie,

Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they acknowledge any of 
the 'subsequent citation' bugs that we reported a few months ago (and 
thoroughly discussed on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging 
the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any of our 
discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues. I wonder how far down 
the queue these bugs are, compared to other issues.

Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug report was 
received successfully and entered into the bug tracking system?

Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to Support rather than to 
enter the bug reports using the Legacy Home tab?

I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of receiving a statement of 
policy on bug acknowledgements and priority tracking.

   Ward

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Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?



 Dede,

 Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; 
 I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). 
 For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2,

 but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field.  On the 
 Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first

 field.  I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth.

 GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy.  I've used, and 
 loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST 
 work right.  The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. 
 That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better...

 Connie
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RE: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

2009-03-07 Thread M. Brenzel
I use an event/fact called Obituary/Death Notice.  I put the text of the
obituary in the Event Notes.  I then source the newspaper that the obituary
appeared in with the edition date and page number in the Source Detail.  The
source would be listed as Newspaper: New York Times so that the newspapers
would all appear in the Source List together.

Mary
 

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Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:44 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

For some time now I have been creating my obituaries as the main source
title, such as - Obituary - Joseph Yeager.

I'm now thinking that to be in line with more knowledgeable LUG members,
that perhaps I should change the source to Newspaper - obituary and then
listing of my notices under each newspaper? 

Any suggestions will be much appreciated. 

Thanks,
Ron




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RE: [LegacyUG] Newspaper tidbits, put into Notes or enter as a Fact?

2009-03-06 Thread M. Brenzel
I use an event/fact called Newspaper Article.

 

Mary

 

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Of v pedersen
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:08 PM
To: Legacy Email List
Subject: [LegacyUG] Newspaper tidbits, put into Notes or enter as a
Fact? 

 


I recently came across several interesting newspaper clippings including
items like so and so attended a birthday party and small bits of
interesting tidbits along with clippings of a relative's letters to the
editor.  

I am interested to know how other Legacy users enter things like these. 

I could come up with a Misc fact name as an umbrella catch-all for small
little pieces of news like these items, or put them into an individual's
notes but I'm not sure if there is another way to enter things like these or
the advantages (or disadvantages) to entering things like these a certain
way.  

Any ideas on how to enter these little news items?  


Thanks so much!  

Vicki

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Censussissies. . .

2009-02-22 Thread M. Brenzel
And what does this subject have to do with Legacy?  Please stay on-topic.

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Of John Clare
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Censussissies. . .

Sorry, but I think Google is probably wrong. Most Latin nouns ending
in -us are 2nd declension and the plural would therefore be -i, but
census is 4th declension (like portus - a port) where the plural is
portus (pronounced portoos, ie a long u). I have checked in the
Collins and the Oxford Latin dictionaries and they both give the same
answer. We use many Latin endings for 2nd declension words, termini
for example, so censi might be allowable  were it to be Latin, but it
is not.
John







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RE: [LegacyUG] Need overall help

2009-01-31 Thread M. Brenzel
Cathy,

This is almost exactly what I do except in the long description I put the
address in parentheses () right after the city or town.  The same thing with
a hospital name for birth or death, church name for religious events such as
baptisms and marriages, and cemetery name for burial.  They sort better in
the Master Location List and I can map exactly to the location.

The short description is just as you have it.  I also use the short
description for reports and my web pages.

Mary


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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Need overall help

I realize you are working with English towns, and I've mostly worked 
with specific addresses in USA towns, but here's my 2 cents worth:

For places that I want to know exactly the address and that I want to 
map to that exact address, I enter them in the long description 
as:  City - 123 Main St, County, State, Country

And in the short description field I enter:  123 Main St, City, State 
(usually abbreviate the State to CA).  This looks better on reports 
so I always select Use Short Location Names for reports.  If the 
use of the report requires the full city, county, state, country for 
some reason, that can be selected for that specific report.

The reason for reversing the city and street address in the long 
description is so it can be found when looking at the Master Locations List.

I sometimes even put the name of the cemetery or the name of the 
church where they were married instead of the street address and plot 
it to that location (don't have to only use the address).

Many don't like muddying up the locations with the street address but 
I like seeing where they were born, lived, married, buried, etc.  I 
also can see how close different family groups lived to each other, 
etc.  Sometimes I can even get an idea if they were doing better or 
worse as the years went along by looking at the neighborhoods on the 
map. I also like seeing if they lived downtown or in the tenements or 
lived in the country or in a rural area and may have lived on a 
farm.  In one case, the family story was the house was on a hilltop 
(and upscale).  Turns out it was close to downtown and not on a hill 
at all.  In another case the family story was the husband walked to 
his store each day but the address I had was far from the store 
location.  After more research, I found a different address in a City 
Directory that was 3 blocks from the store location which I felt was 
the correct address.

If it's an indirect relative, I will put the address or name of 
cemetery or church in the + address field instead of in the main 
location field because I don't care about mapping them or creating 
more locations on the Master Location List.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 06:16 AM 1/30/2009, you wrote:
I'm not new to genealogy, but  I feel like I am so snowed under with 
legacy 7. I had been using FTM since it came out, but was not happy 
with their new format, so wanted a change. I have been reading the 
book, reading the emails and now I'm just going to ask for help from 
you all, I really want to start, but find I am having difficulty 
finding, or perhaps adjusting.
The  Master Location listing, I understand the logic behind it, (I'm 
working my English side) you have the mapping system, why just put 
the village and country, it could be a large village and if you 
wanted to visit or see what was actually around that area, just 
having the name of the village makes it harder? I have started 
putting the whole address down, so that I can see where the location 
really is, has anyone else done this? Comments please.
Picture gallery, I can't move  a pictures from one field to another 
in the picture gallery?
I would really love to have a Legacy buddy to help me with these 
problems I am having. Thanks for listening.
Pat




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RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

2009-01-10 Thread M. Brenzel
I do recall that in the past (not sure if it was an earlier update to
version 7 or if it was in version 6), if the preceding source was the same
but the detail was different, it was still listed as Ibid.

I believe that in the publishing world, this situation is shown as Ibid,
page 4 if the immediately preceding footnote was the same source but page
3.  That's how it was noted in Legacy.  I know this for a fact as I've been
generating Individual Reports (as PDF so to save trees!) using this feature
for many months now as a means to clean up my database and get everything
sourced.

Mary

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of GeoSci
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

Ibid works for me - but keep in mind - it will ONLY work if the source
directly above it in a list is EXACTLY the same (including detail).
That detail seems to be the thing that often does not allow it to work
when you think it should.

Keith

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Elizabeth Richardson
erich...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
 I can address a part of your post, but as you note, ibid and the source
 writer conversion tool problems have already been addressed.

 First, most of us sign our names, and I don't know what to call you. It's
 very difficult to pronounce jaemtp in my mind. Second, please note that
 posting to the list is to be in plain text, and I have changed this reply
to
 reflect that. The font in your post was very small and I had trouble
reading
 it, though, as you can tell, I did manage.

 You wrote:   I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children
in
 a family file who were born to the same mother but two of them had a
 different father. Legacy is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships
 reports as step brothers when they are actually half brothers. I
reported
 this two weeks ago and it is still not corrected. I want to print a
 genealogy report for a friend of mine whose Family History I researched -
 and I cannot give him something that looks unprofessional as to
misclassify
 his relationship to his half brother and say 'Oh...it was the software! '


 I have many half siblings in my database and they appear in the
relationship
 report correctly. Do you have them linked to the proper parents? By this,
I
 mean do you have the mother married to both the fathers, and the children
 correctly listed with their biological father. When I do this, and set
 relationships on one of the children, all the relationships report
 correctly.

 You wrote: Sources/Citations as footnotes at the end of the page: I
figured
 this will be easier - everything is right on one page to read. Well, one
of
 the facts in my Descendant book report referred to citation no. 18. But,
 there was no 18 in the footnotes, it only went as high as 17. 

 Do you have the box If an event has multiple citations, combine them all
 into one paragraph ticked? If so, the second citation number will not be
 represented in the footnotes, rather that cite will be combined with the
 other footnote. This feature was confusing to many of us until we got used
 to it, and apparently it is the currently accepted method of citing
sources.

 You wrote: As a side note, It seems like none of these programs are
 blended-family friendly - if you want to put the children with the step
 parent who raised them for 20 years. Adoptions are also another issue when
 you want to include the natural parents (when they are known) but want to
 put the child under the adopted parents who raised them.

 A child can have more than one set of parents. Simply link the adopted
child
 to both sets of parents, then if you wish you can set the adopted parents
to
 the preferred parents, which will then show on reports and on screen.

 Hope this helps,

 Elizabeth
 researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson


 - Original Message - From: jae...@verizon.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt


 Hello, thank you for asking:

 I have had a series of issues - below are just a few.
 My first post had to do with the 'Ibid' feature. The online Help Index
 presented this as if it was available. The Customize menu had a check box
to
 enable it. The Legacy Web page had a Comparsion Chart to other genealogy
 software in which it indicated that it (and Roots Magic) offered the Ibid
 feature when two others did not - using it as a selling point!  So, I
wonder
 why this is not working. I spent a lot of extra time going over things
 trying to figure out what I am not doing right. I get on this forum and
one
 person (Ron) tells me that it is no longer available.
 Similar situation for the Source Template Conversion Tool. They got
 instructions how to use this thing. I could not find it and,again, I am
 taking extra time trying 

RE: Re: [LegacyUG] IBID - was Without a Doubt

2009-01-10 Thread M. Brenzel
My apologies for not changing the subject line and stripping the old
messages in my message about IBID.  I have done a test with Individual
Reports to confirm that IBID no longer works the way it used to IN THAT
STYLE REPORT.  I cannot speak about other reports.  I am using Version
7.0.0.86.

Mary
 
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Of M. Brenzel
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

I do recall that in the past (not sure if it was an earlier update to
version 7 or if it was in version 6), if the preceding source was the same
but the detail was different, it was still listed as Ibid.

I believe that in the publishing world, this situation is shown as Ibid,
page 4 if the immediately preceding footnote was the same source but page
3.  That's how it was noted in Legacy.  I know this for a fact as I've been
generating Individual Reports (as PDF so to save trees!) using this feature
for many months now as a means to clean up my database and get everything
sourced.

Mary






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RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

2009-01-10 Thread M. Brenzel
Elizabeth,

Sorry for continuing this now off-topic discussion.

Consider this use for a flash drive.  Maybe you will think that it is something 
you could not only use but need.

My local library has the local newspaper on microfilm.  We have a microfilm 
reader connected to a computer.  I can view pages of the newspaper, zoom in on 
the article of interest and scan it to the computer.  Once scannned, I save the 
image to my flash drive to take home.  I then load it onto my computer. 

My local Family History Center likewise has a microfilm reader connected to a 
computer that I can use the same way.

Mary

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

Robin, actually, I did know what a flash drive is, and, believe me, I do not 
want or need a flash drive. I have one computer and will not be transferring 
stuff, although I did transfer stuff via disks from my old computer to this 
one. I do have a 500gb external hard drive for additional backups. I don't 
wear jewelry, so why would I want to WEAR a flash drive. Can't think of 
anything so frivolous is the only nice way to say what I think about that. 
And let me add that my husband think you don't NEED a computer. Not everyone 
has a you need the latest and greatest keep up with the Jones lifestyle. 
Need and want really are different.

Elizabeth
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RE: [LegacyUG] Search Problem

2009-01-09 Thread M. Brenzel
Search

Look for whom Individual

Where to look   Birth Date

How to lookEquals to

What to look for   

 

There are 3 entries that you can put for what to look for.  You can leave
it blank, you can enter   or you can enter .  All of these work to
return a list of people with no birth date.

 

Mary

 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 7:29 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Search Problem

 

Does anyone know how to tag everyone in the Legacy 7 database who does not
have a birth date?  I've tried the search but alas . . . .

 

Search

Look for whom?   Individual

Where to look? Birth Date

How to look? ???

What to look for? ???

 

I've tried most combinations of the latter two without success.  How do you
tell Legacy you want the individuals with a null birth date?

 

Thanks,

Dave

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RE: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

2009-01-06 Thread M. Brenzel
But the tombstone picture does show up!  You have to select Burial from the
drop-down list on the right side under the Scan a Picture button.  The
list contains anything for the Individual that can have a picture attached
to it.  By default, Individual pictures are displayed.  The first item in
the list is All Pictures.  If the item has a picture attached to it, then
there is an asterisk (*) in front of the item's name.

 

Mary

 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Gary Crull
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemetery photos

 

Cathy,

 

What you say is true, but. When you click on the half shaded Picture
Icon on the Family page said tombstone photo does NOT appear. In my test
only photos of Individuals show up when the Picture Icon is full colored. If
you have 2 photos of the individual and 1 photo of the tombstone only the 2
photos of the individual are displayed.

 

Just seems to me that the tombstone photo should appear in the half shaded
Icon AND the full colored one as well!

 

gc

 

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:15:45 -0800 Cathy Vallevieni cathyv...@cox.net
writes:

GC:

When you enter a burial photo using the + sign in Burial section of the main
screen or you add it from the picture icon as a Burial photo, it is saved
in the same place, shows in both locations and changes the photo icon to
half color.  It just seems to be two ways to accomplish the same result. I
think this was your question.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA


At 01:36 PM 1/6/2009, you wrote:

This is from a recent thread...OK, so I'm a little slow picking up on it! ha
ha
 
Is there any indication that a photo is available using this method? The
Photo Icon on the main Family screen shows when there are photos associated
with the individual. This is also where I've been parking my tombstone
photos. 
 
I tried attaching a few tombstone photos using this procedure. However,
looks to me like if this method is used there is no indication anywhere a
cemetery photo is present unless the cross + is clicked from Burial line
from the Individuals screen to see if BURIAL PICTURES is check marked.
 
Am I correct in this assumption? If so, this is a decided DISadvantage in
that you don't know an individual in your database may have a tombstone
photo available. Using my method granted a tombstone photo is mixed in with
individual photos, but at least the Photo Icon alerts you to the presence of
some kind of photo - individual or whatever!
 
gc
 
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:18:19 -0800 Phil Husband phusba...@verizon.net
writes:

Cemetery data:  The way I enter cemetery information is to click on the
cross   +   to the far right of the Burial line in an individual page.
There you may enter the name of the cemetery, the address of same and even
pictures relating to the burial such as an overall picture of the cemetery
and a gravestone picture.  The obituary is a good addition here also.  

 



 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Embarrassed to ask...

2008-12-15 Thread M. Brenzel
According to Legacy Help, 

Recorded Date - This is the date you recorded the source citation.

Mary
 

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Roxanne
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:14 PM
To: Legacy
Subject: [LegacyUG] Embarrassed to ask...

... but in the case of a census source, what do you Legacy users tend to put
in the Recorded Date field? I see the option for Today's Date, but is
that a place where I can put the actual date that the census taker took the
info?

Generally speaking, is the Recorded Date field a place where I note when
the original researcher (like a census taker or a clerk) recorded the
information which I have found? Or is it a place where I note when I myself
took note of the information?

Thanks in advance (and BTW, thanks to all who have answered my questions in
the past!)

Roxanne Baird
Chattanooga, TN


  



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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations - when a village becomes a city

2008-12-09 Thread M. Brenzel
Steve,

Thank you for your response.  I will continue on my current path.  I started
on this long trek almost 30 years ago (with many breaks in the action).  I
always had the locations as they are in present day but once I ran the
county verifier, I found the errors in that line of thinking.  So I am now
in the process of fixing all of my locations, adding as you suggested, notes
giving the historical changes.  Not an easy task but I'm making progress.

I've got 3 centuries of events in Detroit which started as a French fort,
then became part of British North America, Northwest Territory, Indiana
Territory and Michigan Territory before the State of Michigan was formed.
Imagine straightening all of those events out! 

Mary
 


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations - when a village becomes a city

This is a classic issue of accuracy versus clarity, and there are
people on this group that fall on both sides of the divide, so you'll
probably get a few different opinions on this question. My own take is
that genealogy is an attempt to record events and facts in their
contemporary setting (variant spellings and all), and not to
second-guess details or bring them into the present, so to speak.
Thus, your proposed solution of using several location names makes the
most sense to me, with the added suggestion that you use the location
notes field (accessible via the Master Location List) to provide some
of the historical detail that you've mentioned here about Tonawanda
and North Tonawanda. The downside to this solution is that it can be
difficult to locate old records based on the location, because
although a person might have died in Wheatfield in 1865, you'll need
to know that the records are now located in the City of North
Tonawanda. Thus you will need to be careful about adding notes with
such details regarding the current setting of locations that no longer
exist or have changed names (and don't even get me started on the
added complication of there also being a Town of Tonawanda!)

The converse argument suggests that you stick with modern names for
events regardless of the time when they occurred, which can make
things somewhat easier to read through (thus it reads that the person
lived in NT for their entire life, versus jumping around to various
location names which at first glance can make it seem like they moved,
even though it was merely the civil boundaries that moved.) Taking
this route can lead to complications down the road when someone
realizes that there was no such location as North Tonawanda in 1855,
and questions the accuracy of your data.

Best of luck,
Steve

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:29 PM, M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I guess that the List Posting Error Notification was true for me.  I
 somehow was unsubscribed from the list.  I have received no messages for
 days.  I sent this message to the list on Saturday and when I didn't get
it
 back, I realized that I hadn't received messages in awhile.

 ---

 Just wondering whether others have encountered something like this and if
 so, how they've handled it -

 The city in which I live became a city in 1897.  Prior to that, it was a
 village.  Would you list it once without the title of village or city, add
 it to all events and facts that occurred there regardless of when in its
 history and add location notes giving the dates in which the transition
took
 place?

 Prior to being a village, it was part of a neighboring town.  This
occurred
 when it split from other wards of another village.  And to further
 complicate things, the 3 other wards were in a different county across the
 Erie Canal!

 Here are the details -

 1854 - Village of Tonawanda formed with 3 wards in Erie County (which
later
 became City of Tonawanda) and 1 ward in Niagara County
 1857 - ward in Niagara County split from village and became part of Town
of
 Wheatfield
 1865 - Village of North Tonawanda formed
 1897 - City of North Tonawanda established

 I was thinking of having the following locations:

 Tonawanda, Erie County, New York, USA (for all events that occurred in the
3
 wards of the village and in the future City of Tonawanda) Tonawanda,
Niagara
 County, New York, USA (for those events in the 1 ward of the village
between
 1854 and 1857) Wheatfield, Niagara County, New York, USA (for those events
 between 1857 and 1865) North Tonawanda, Niagara County, New York, USA (for
 everything since 1865)

 Does this make sense?

 Thanks!

 Mary



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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures - loading problem

2008-11-24 Thread M. Brenzel
Mary,

The first thing I would do is run check/repair on the database.  See if that
takes care of the problem.

Mary
 

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Help!

I have used Legacy for years, and Legacy 7 for months. All of a
sudden, all photos which I store in c:\Legacy\Pictures are not loading
quickly and neatly on individuals. Instead, when I click on the Show
Picture Gallary for an individual, the picutures come up but the hour
glass runs and runs and it starts to flicker and up at the top, left,
it keeps saying, off and on, Picture Gallery for Samuel Richmond [or
whoever] (not responding)

I have the database in c:\Legacy\Data and the pictures in
c:\Legacy\Pictures.

Any ideas?

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RE: [LegacyUG] upgrade to Ver. 7

2008-11-06 Thread M. Brenzel
I think that Ruth means an upgrade _TO_ v7.0.0.55.  In other words, the next
upgrade to version 7.

Mary
 
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What exactly do you mean by status? That update has been in release for 
quite some time now. If you are on v. 7 and haven't installed it, you 
probably should.

Gary Templeman

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 Does anyone know the status of the upgrade to Ver. 7.0.0.55?
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RE: [LegacyUG] Filing Systems (was entering first-person)

2008-10-21 Thread M. Brenzel
Check out the mailing list archives.  There have been many discussions on
this topic.  In addition, Geoff has reported several filing systems
(including my own) in Legacy News.  Best thing to remember - what is good
for one person may not be good for the next.  I started with one system and
changed when I found that it really didn't work with my thought process.

Mary
 
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--- Gen Searcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello Connie
 I picked up that you file alphabetically, how would you
 file a married couple
 I can see that all unmarried people could be done by
 alphabet  but I just wondered do you file the husband and
 wife separately
 Regards
 John


John,

My paper filing system is primarily by surname and locality.  When I'm
starting on a surname, my binder is just for that surname.  But, when I've
accumulated a lot of documents, I add sections for locality.  For example, I
may have sections in my SHEETS binder for Bedford Co., PA, Holmes Co., OH,
and Keokuk Co., IA.  And when that binder gets too large, I make a SHEETS
Bedford Co., PA binder, a SHEETS Holmes Co., OH binder, etc.  

Then within those localities, I file by type of record type, e.g. I have
sections for deeds, court records, marriage records etc.  This system has
the added benefit of telling me quickly where the holes in my research
are.  (If the deeds section in Bedford Co. PA is empty or nearly empty...)  

I know where to look for a specific record for a particular individual or
couple from the Family Group Sheets which I keep in alphabetical order in a
section at the beginning of the binder.  (Or by firing up Legacy and looking
at the database).

Sometimes, if I'm working on the other surname of a couple, I'll make
duplicates to keep in the other surname binder, or I cross reference them
(e.g. my WINSLOW binder may say refer to SHEETS binder for the Samuel
Sheets/Phebe Winslow marriage).

Then there are those who are doing away with most paper files by scanning
their documents and attaching them to the individuals/couple in
Legacy...(I'm doing more of that, but I doubt I'll ever give up my binders;
they just make it easier for me to see the patterns/relationships and
analyze the information I've gathered).

I have experimented with files (not binders) for each couple:  this works
best (for me) for collateral families, not my direct lines.  For example, I
might have a file for Mary Ann Sheets m. Adam Harbolt and their descendants.
(She is an ancestor's sister).  That I would file under Harbolt, with my
Sheets binder (or Legacy) telling me she married a Harbolt.

There are as many ways to organize your paper files as there are ways to use
Legacy:  figure out what meets your needs, works best for you, will grow
easily, and matches the way you think.

Hope this gives you some ideas...


Connie





  



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[LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

2008-10-19 Thread M. Brenzel
I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.  They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.  I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.  

Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.  Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.  If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn’t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
 






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RE: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

2008-10-19 Thread M. Brenzel
Thank you to both JL and Terri.  I will see if I can find another image 
software.  Picture Manager doesn't give compression options when saving an 
image.

Mary
 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

Microsoft Office Picture Manager is probably saving the TIF images using LZW 
compression without your knowledge. I know that Microsoft Picture It is guilty 
of that behavior. Re-save your TIF images using another photo editing program. 
Use the other program's FileSave As command to save as an uncompressed TIF and 
you should not have any more problems.

I had the same problem with Microsoft Picture It. It took me quite a while to 
figure it out. I finally figured out the problem by looking at the image's 
Properties in Microsoft Office�Document Imaging.

Terri



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Subject: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.� They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.� I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.� 

Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.� Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.� If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn�t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
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RE: [LegacyUG] duplicates

2008-10-05 Thread M. Brenzel
Michele,

I suppose  I could check the name list every time I add someone but I might
not catch females that I have in my database under their maiden or married
name and I am adding the other.

I would recommend that you NEVER NEVER NEVER enter a female under her
married name.  Females should only be entered by their maiden names.
Entering an AKA for her with her married name is okay however.

Mary
 

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I would like it if Legacy would warn you when you add a new person if there 
are any possible duplicates in your file.  I suppose  I could check the name

list every time I add someone but I might not catch females that I have in 
my database under their maiden or married name and I am adding the other.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Help - new user

2008-09-25 Thread M. Brenzel
Welcome, Linda!

Please remember that Legacy is very flexible and that it allows you to do
things many different ways.  You may find many different suggestions from
different people on this list as topics are discussed.

I have ALL of my people in one database but there are others on this list
who have their family in one file and their spouse's family in another.  I
have 1 database for a number of reasons, mostly so that all of my son's
ancestors, aunts, uncles and cousins are in the same database that he is.
Otherwise, I would be in my family file plus my husband's to show that I am
his wife and vice-versa.  Our son, likewise, would have to be in both.  In
addition, you just never know where in your ancestry you might find that the
families have crossed over each other.  

In regards to two marriages, you assign the children to their BIRTH parents.
Additional marriages for the parents will result in the children being shown
as step or 1/2 children.

Mary
 


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Help - new user

Hi
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask these questions.

I have started my family tree and I have possibly 130 people on it already 
and now I am just thinking have I done it all wrong should I fave different 
family trees or have everyone on one which I do should I have done one 
for my mother's family  - her father and and then one for her mother  and 
then one for each of my father's parents.help..

Also when there are two marraiges involved do you include the children on 
both and designate which are step  or do you have to 

Thanks

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RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages - PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT

2008-09-24 Thread M. Brenzel
 is at [Desc].
 Take
 the Residence Event as an example, it reads [He/She] at [Desc]. Without
 changing the default, only the contents of the Description field, it can
 be
 made to read eg. He resided at 'birth' , He resided at 'birth in 
 London
 Hospital' , He resided at 'census' , where the bit in single quotes is
 what is included in the description field. These are not particularly 
 good
 examples but, I think, make the point.

 If this is not what you meant please come back to us.

 Ron Ferguson

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 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:42:36 +
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 Subject: Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


 I've had a long day and perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but you CAN
 design the sentence to read differently if the description field is 
 filled
 than when it isn't.

 - Original Message -
 From: M. Brenzel
 Date: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:44 pm
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Ron,

 After further review, you are correct! The events showing
 without the colon
 are those where there is no description entered. I don't want
 to define
 those events without the description as sometimes there is valid
 informationto enter. For example, I have cases where Residence
 is defined with a
 description of at the time of her father's death, if I have
 found such
 information in an obituary that was published in the newspaper.

 It sure would be nice if the list style would print them the
 same regardless
 of whether all of the fields are entered or not.

 I will submit this as a bug.

 Thank you!

 Mary

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 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages


 Thanks, Mary :-(

 That is one I had not spotted! But before going further may I
 make it clear
 that most of the problems I have with Pedigree webpages are self
 inflictedas the presentation of my site is definitely non-standard.

 Yes, I use the list style and having looked I have found an
 example of the
 comma instead of a colon. However, it is not as you have
 suggested due to a
 self created Event. The one I have found is a Residence Event.
 Within that
 list I have 3 Residence Events but only one has the comma and in
 that one I
 have a blank field:

 Residence: Census, 1901, Salford
 Residence, 1891, Salford

 So my question to yourself is - is the second field in your
 Event blank?

 Now mine is due to an error but your's looks as though it is
 not, in which
 case what happens if you remove the second field from the Event,
 or fill it?
 (assuming, of course that is the reason).

 BTW please do not expect a quick answer as it 2-45am here and
 the only
 reason I'm still up is that I'm working on a complete redesign
 of my site
 and I won't sleep until most the scheme worked out, mainly in my
 head but
 with some of it on paper.


 Ron Ferguson

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:06:15 -0400

 I know that Ron Ferguson creates Pedigree Web Pages and the
 finagling that
 he has to do for his pages is pretty common knowledge on this list.

 Ron, when you create your pages, do you use List Style or
 Sentence Style
 for
 Events? Do you have events that you created?

 I use List Style and it appears that events that I have
 defined do not
 look
 the same as those that came with Legacy. I don't see anything
 different in
 the way that the event is defined. Examples of the event in
 List Style on
 pedigree web page:

 . OCCUPATION: Saddler, 8 Sep 1878, Saint Vincent Villa, Lynton,
 Devon, England.

 . IMMIGRATION, 12 Apr 1881, New York, New York County, New York,
 USA.

 Occupation is followed by a colon and Immigration is followed
 by a comma.

 I think that Occupation is one of the default events and that
 Immigrationis
 one that I created.

 Has anyone else seen this?


 Mary

RE: [LegacyUG] Searching globally

2008-09-22 Thread M. Brenzel
Ron,

Where is this search/replace function?  I don't see it.

Mary

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Searching globally


Edward,

I don't think that this can be done globally from within Legacy. It can be
changed in all the Location fields using SearchSearch and
ReplaceLists-Location (there is also another for Lists-Location-Short) but
I'm afraid that you will have to repeat for each type of not etc. 


Ron Ferguson

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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:58:44 +1000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Searching globally


I have recently become a convert to Legacy but am having trouble with
searching for a string of text globally (ie in several or all fields)

The reason I want to do this is that I often use abbreviations when I enter
data (such as Mcr for Manchester) and would  then like to globally
replace all occurrences of the  abbreviation with the full name WHEREVER IT
OCCURS (Notes, Places etc etc).

I would be very grateful if someone could tell me how to do this.

Many thanks
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RE: [LegacyUG] Searching globally

2008-09-22 Thread M. Brenzel
Actually, I had been up since 4:00 AM, almost 3 hours before I read your email. 
 I hadn't had my caffeine yet either!  Sorry!

Mary
 


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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gee, thanks, Mike!  When I first read your response, I took your tone
 to be that of someone who was tired of seeing questions from ignorant
 members of the Legacy user community.  You told me to wake up as if
 I was blind or stupid.  Am I wrong?  You've never responded like that
 before, have you?

No. Nothing like that. Guess it was the first message of the day and I 
hadn't had the necessary infusion of caffeine at the time. Thought you, 
like me, hadn't been up long. I shouldn't try to be funny until I'm at 
one with the day! I'm really not a morning person. Much better in the 
evening and at night.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Suggestion for SourceWriter

2008-09-22 Thread M. Brenzel
Ditto!  That is a great suggestion!

Mary

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A great idea, Mike.

Tom Herson
Ithaca, NY

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 Would it be possible to attach to each template description an 
 indication of where in the Evidence Explained book, it is described? A 
 simple section reference would suffice. Better still - allow us to enter 
 the section reference and see what matches!
 
 I'm convinced that this would help to minimise the number of How-To 
 questions for different types of source documents that get posted to the 
 list.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages

2008-09-17 Thread M. Brenzel
I'm the one who started this thread.  Marilyn, what does your email have to
do with this topic?

Mary

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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages

Ron,

For some reason Legacy does not have the cemetery in Kenosha, WI.  When I
put in the name and where they are buried it keeps telling me that there is
no such cemetery.  The name of the cemetery is Green Ridge and it is in
downtown Kenosha, WI.  It should be fixed in your program.

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ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages


And I've only just got up so my brain is not yet in gear, but I think the
answer to your question is yes, at least to some extent.

I think the default sentence for the description field is at [Desc]. Take
the Residence Event as an example, it reads [He/She] at [Desc]. Without
changing the default, only the contents of the Description field, it can be
made to read eg. He resided at 'birth' , He resided at 'birth in London
Hospital' , He resided at 'census' , where the bit in single quotes is
what is included in the description field. These are not particularly good
examples but, I think, make the point.

If this is not what you meant please come back to us.

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:42:36 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


I've had a long day and perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but you CAN
design the sentence to read differently if the description field is filled
than when it isn't.

- Original Message -
From: M. Brenzel
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:44 pm
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Ron,

 After further review, you are correct! The events showing
 without the colon
 are those where there is no description entered. I don't want
 to define
 those events without the description as sometimes there is valid
 informationto enter. For example, I have cases where Residence
 is defined with a
 description of at the time of her father's death, if I have
 found such
 information in an obituary that was published in the newspaper.

 It sure would be nice if the list style would print them the
 same regardless
 of whether all of the fields are entered or not.

 I will submit this as a bug.

 Thank you!

 Mary

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 ronaldferguson
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:47 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages


 Thanks, Mary :-(

 That is one I had not spotted! But before going further may I
 make it clear
 that most of the problems I have with Pedigree webpages are self
 inflictedas the presentation of my site is definitely non-standard.

 Yes, I use the list style and having looked I have found an
 example of the
 comma instead of a colon. However, it is not as you have
 suggested due to a
 self created Event. The one I have found is a Residence Event.
 Within that
 list I have 3 Residence Events but only one has the comma and in
 that one I
 have a blank field:

 Residence: Census, 1901, Salford
 Residence, 1891, Salford

 So my question to yourself is - is the second field in your
 Event blank?

 Now mine is due to an error but your's looks as though it is
 not, in which
 case what happens if you remove the second field from the Event,
 or fill it?
 (assuming, of course that is the reason).

 BTW please do not expect a quick answer as it 2-45am here and
 the only
 reason I'm still up is that I'm working on a complete redesign
 of my site
 and I won't sleep until most the scheme worked out, mainly in my
 head but
 with some of it on paper.


 Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages

2008-09-17 Thread M. Brenzel
I know about changing the sentence structure.  What I wrote about is the
List Style for Events in Pedigree Web Pages, not Sentence Style.  There
appears to be no way to modify the list style.  Go to the bottom of this
thread to see the beginning.

Mary

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages


And I've only just got up so my brain is not yet in gear, but I think the
answer to your question is yes, at least to some extent.

I think the default sentence for the description field is at [Desc]. Take
the Residence Event as an example, it reads [He/She] at [Desc]. Without
changing the default, only the contents of the Description field, it can be
made to read eg. He resided at 'birth' , He resided at 'birth in London
Hospital' , He resided at 'census' , where the bit in single quotes is
what is included in the description field. These are not particularly good
examples but, I think, make the point.

If this is not what you meant please come back to us.

Ron Ferguson


Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:42:36 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


I've had a long day and perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but you CAN
design the sentence to read differently if the description field is filled
than when it isn't.

- Original Message -
From: M. Brenzel
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:44 pm
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Ron,

 After further review, you are correct! The events showing
 without the colon
 are those where there is no description entered. I don't want
 to define
 those events without the description as sometimes there is valid
 informationto enter. For example, I have cases where Residence
 is defined with a
 description of at the time of her father's death, if I have
 found such
 information in an obituary that was published in the newspaper.

 It sure would be nice if the list style would print them the
 same regardless
 of whether all of the fields are entered or not.

 I will submit this as a bug.

 Thank you!

 Mary

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 ronaldferguson
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:47 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages


 Thanks, Mary :-(

 That is one I had not spotted! But before going further may I
 make it clear
 that most of the problems I have with Pedigree webpages are self
 inflictedas the presentation of my site is definitely non-standard.

 Yes, I use the list style and having looked I have found an
 example of the
 comma instead of a colon. However, it is not as you have
 suggested due to a
 self created Event. The one I have found is a Residence Event.
 Within that
 list I have 3 Residence Events but only one has the comma and in
 that one I
 have a blank field:

 Residence: Census, 1901, Salford
 Residence, 1891, Salford

 So my question to yourself is - is the second field in your
 Event blank?

 Now mine is due to an error but your's looks as though it is
 not, in which
 case what happens if you remove the second field from the Event,
 or fill it?
 (assuming, of course that is the reason).

 BTW please do not expect a quick answer as it 2-45am here and
 the only
 reason I'm still up is that I'm working on a complete redesign
 of my site
 and I won't sleep until most the scheme worked out, mainly in my
 head but
 with some of it on paper.


 Ron Ferguson


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages
 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:06:15 -0400

 I know that Ron Ferguson creates Pedigree Web Pages and the
 finagling that
 he has to do for his pages is pretty common knowledge on this list.

 Ron, when you create your pages, do you use List Style or
 Sentence Style
 for
 Events? Do you have events that you created?

 I use List Style and it appears that events that I have
 defined do not
 look
 the same as those that came with Legacy. I don't see anything
 different in
 the way that the event is defined. Examples of the event in
 List Style on
 pedigree web page:

 . OCCUPATION: Saddler, 8 Sep 1878, Saint Vincent Villa, Lynton,
 Devon, England.

 . IMMIGRATION, 12 Apr 1881, New York, New York County, New York,
 USA.

 Occupation is followed by a colon and Immigration is followed
 by a comma.

 I think that Occupation is one of the default events and that
 Immigrationis
 one that I created.

 Has anyone else seen this?


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[LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages

2008-09-13 Thread M. Brenzel
I know that Ron Ferguson creates Pedigree Web Pages and the finagling that
he has to do for his pages is pretty common knowledge on this list.

Ron, when you create your pages, do you use List Style or Sentence Style for
Events?  Do you have events that you created?

I use List Style and it appears that events that I have defined do not look
the same as those that came with Legacy.  I don't see anything different in
the way that the event is defined.  Examples of the event in List Style on
pedigree web page:

• OCCUPATION: Saddler, 8 Sep 1878, Saint Vincent Villa, Lynton,
Devon, England.

• IMMIGRATION, 12 Apr 1881, New York, New York County, New York,
USA.

Occupation is followed by a colon and Immigration is followed by a comma.  

I think that Occupation is one of the default events and that Immigration is
one that I created.

Has anyone else seen this?


Mary
 






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RE: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages

2008-09-13 Thread M. Brenzel
By the way, this is not a problem unique to v7.  I saw this in v6 too.

Mary

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Events/Facts on Pedigree Web Pages

I know that Ron Ferguson creates Pedigree Web Pages and the finagling that
he has to do for his pages is pretty common knowledge on this list.

Ron, when you create your pages, do you use List Style or Sentence Style for
Events?  Do you have events that you created?

I use List Style and it appears that events that I have defined do not look
the same as those that came with Legacy.  I don't see anything different in
the way that the event is defined.  Examples of the event in List Style on
pedigree web page:

• OCCUPATION: Saddler, 8 Sep 1878, Saint Vincent Villa, Lynton,
Devon, England.

• IMMIGRATION, 12 Apr 1881, New York, New York County, New York,
USA.

Occupation is followed by a colon and Immigration is followed by a comma.  

I think that Occupation is one of the default events and that Immigration is
one that I created.

Has anyone else seen this?


Mary
 






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RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines

2008-07-04 Thread M. Brenzel
Aha!  Others have it too!  I'm not going crazy!  But if it's not published
by Legacy, then where did it come from?

Mary

Happy Independence Day!


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Mary,

That particular time-line is not published by Legacy and I guess is
copyright.

I have now found the one mentioned by Jeff and I can translate this but it
only goes to 1760 and quite a bit of the early records the first vists of
the French to Canada rather than specifically relating to Quebec (but nicely
sets the context).

If this is of interest I would be happy to translate but would ask Geoff to
first advise me of the copyright position.

Ron Ferguson




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 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:12:36 -0400

 I don't believe so. The description found at the bottom of the timeline
 says Nouvelle-France (régime français 1608-1760)-Source:
 http://pages.infinit.net/histoire/quebec-h.html;. It is one of five
 timelines under Timelines for Language: Francais.

 Mary

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines

 Interesting. I have Legacy 7 and can find no Quebec timeline! Even if I
 switch from English to French.

 Could it be a Timeline someone else created for you?

 Jeff

 M. Brenzel wrote:
 I haven't paid too much attention to the timelines in the past but
 with this discussion I thought I'd take a look at the ones provided
 with Legacy 7. I have lots of connections in Quebec and see that
 there is a timeline for Quebec history but it's in French! Is anyone
 out there able to translate all of the entries into English and send
 it to Millennia for inclusion in a future release?

 Mary

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 ronald ferguson
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:51 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines


 Jane and Dermot,

 A timeline can be created in the Timeline Screen (ViewTimelines) by
 clicking New and adding the details. No need to worry about using
 the pipes or anything else as it's automatic.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard

2008-07-04 Thread M. Brenzel
Mike,

No, Thomas' reply did say lower right -

 highlight the source you're interested in and then click twice on the icon
in the lower right hand corned of the assigned sources for screen

Mary
 
Such a wise man...
 A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take everything you have.
 All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience
to remain silent.
 The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.
- Thomas Jefferson


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard

ronald ferguson wrote:

 Tom with you saying that the copy icon is at the bottom right, it
 looked to me that you were thinking of Version 6, the icon is on the
 bottom left in V7.

Time for a new pair of spectacles, Ron? :-)

Tom's original reply clearly stated bottom left corner - the same as in 
version 6. Comparing the two versions, there are minor, cosmetic 
variations. The basic layout of the Assign Sources For ... window is 
basically the same in both versions.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard

2008-07-04 Thread M. Brenzel
Your apologies are accepted, Ron!  :)

Mary
 
Such a wise man...
 A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take everything you have.
 All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience
to remain silent.
 The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.
- Thomas Jefferson


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ferguson
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard


Tom and Mary,

Firstly apologies, Mary, I have realised that I said the same as yourself-
was puzzling over Tom's explanation when I read it.

Tom with you saying that the copy icon is at the bottom right, it looked to
me that you were thinking of Version 6, the icon is on the bottom left in
V7. 


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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard
 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:30:20 -0400

 I no longer use Version 6. So I'm referring to Version 7,.

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 To: 
 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:15 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard



 Tom and Mary,

 Are you referring to version6? I cannot find that way of doing it in
 version7 as it has changed quite a lot, as far as I can see.

 On the Assigned Sources Screen select the event for which you wish to copy
 the source, there is on the bottom left a two pages icon (the Copy Icon)
 click this. Now go to the same screen for the new individual and highlight
 the event. Then click the little blue line on the bottom left - above the
 Copy Icon.


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard
 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:20:49 -0400

 Yes, there is. Go to the Assigned Sources where it has been used. Down in
 the lower left is a button with 2 pages on it. Select the source in the
 list above, click on the button and the source is copied to the source
 clipboard. Next, go to the person that you want to assign the source to.
 Open the Assigned Sources for that person and select the event that you
 want
 to source. Click on the - button right above the copy button you used
 before. This is the paste button. It adds the copied source to the
 selected event.

 Mary

 Such a wise man...
 A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
 enough to take everything you have.
 All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good
 conscience
 to remain silent.
 The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
 bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
 government.
 - Thomas Jefferson


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 Is there a way to copy a complete source (including detail) to the
 source clipboard so that it can be used again without typing
 everything in -- perhaps from an event? Would certainly help in going
 back to source things without sources.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard

2008-07-04 Thread M. Brenzel
Ron,

Ummm, I think that's what I described as the steps to do it as shown in my
reply below.

Mary
 
Such a wise man...
 A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take everything you have.
 All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience
to remain silent.
 The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.
- Thomas Jefferson


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To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard


Tom and Mary,

Are you referring to version6? I cannot find that way of doing it in
version7 as it has changed quite a lot, as far as I can see.

On the Assigned Sources Screen select the event for which you wish to copy
the source, there is on the bottom left a two pages icon (the Copy Icon)
click this. Now go to the same screen for the new individual and highlight
the event. Then click the little blue line on the bottom left - above the
Copy Icon. 


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard
 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:20:49 -0400

 Yes, there is. Go to the Assigned Sources where it has been used. Down in
 the lower left is a button with 2 pages on it. Select the source in the
 list above, click on the button and the source is copied to the source
 clipboard. Next, go to the person that you want to assign the source to.
 Open the Assigned Sources for that person and select the event that you
want
 to source. Click on the - button right above the copy button you used
 before. This is the paste button. It adds the copied source to the
 selected event.

 Mary

 Such a wise man...
  A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
 enough to take everything you have.
  All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good
conscience
 to remain silent.
  The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
 bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
 government.
 - Thomas Jefferson


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 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:51 AM
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Clipboard

 Is there a way to copy a complete source (including detail) to the
 source clipboard so that it can be used again without typing
 everything in -- perhaps from an event? Would certainly help in going
 back to source things without sources.
 Thanks
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RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines

2008-07-03 Thread M. Brenzel
I haven't paid too much attention to the timelines in the past but with this
discussion I thought I'd take a look at the ones provided with Legacy 7.  I
have lots of connections in Quebec and see that there is a timeline for
Quebec history but it's in French!  Is anyone out there able to translate
all of the entries into English and send it to Millennia for inclusion in a
future release?

Mary

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Jane and Dermot,

A timeline can be created in the Timeline Screen (ViewTimelines) by
clicking New and adding the details. No need to worry about using the
pipes or anything else as it's automatic.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines

2008-07-03 Thread M. Brenzel
I don't believe so.  The description found at the bottom of the timeline
says Nouvelle-France (régime français 1608-1760)-Source:
http://pages.infinit.net/histoire/quebec-h.html;.  It is one of five
timelines under Timelines for Language: Francais.

Mary

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Interesting.  I have Legacy 7 and can find no Quebec timeline! Even if I 
switch from English to French.

Could it be a Timeline someone else created for you?

Jeff

M. Brenzel wrote:
 I haven't paid too much attention to the timelines in the past but
 with this discussion I thought I'd take a look at the ones provided
 with Legacy 7.  I have lots of connections in Quebec and see that
 there is a timeline for Quebec history but it's in French!  Is anyone
 out there able to translate all of the entries into English and send
 it to Millennia for inclusion in a future release?

 Mary

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 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Timelines


 Jane and Dermot,

 A timeline can be created in the Timeline Screen (ViewTimelines) by
 clicking New and adding the details. No need to worry about using
 the pipes or anything else as it's automatic.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions

2008-06-27 Thread M. Brenzel
That is correct, Thomas.  It does increase the number of locations that the
program needs to keep track of.  But it is a relational database and being
of such design, it can keep track of them quite nicely.  And... you can
attach them to as many events, facts or people that you need to.  I use the
same approach that Ron uses and by putting the address in the location
field, I don't have to click on the '+' every time I want to put the
specific address that someone lived at during the 1910 census or the name of
the church in which my grandparents were married back in 1914.

Mary
 
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Tom,

There is absolutely nothing which says that this *has* to be the case. This
limitation is only suggested because American Geo-locations use that format.
Legacy is international.

I put the full address in the Location Field and only use the Address Fields
for current names and addresses etc.


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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:59:03 -0400

 The location (including burial) field is intended for city/town/village,
 county, state, country.

 The address field is used to identify more specific locations within a
 location, such as names of cemeteries, hospitals, etc.

 Placing address items within the location field (with or without a comma)
 greatly increases the number of locations that the program has to keep
track
 of.

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 What is the advantage of using the address option rather than just naming
 the cemetery itself in the Burial field?

 Jeff

 Thomas Herson wrote:
 I just don't understand why you would leave out the country and I
 don't understand why you don't just use the address option for the
 specific cemetery (or hospital or other specific location name). The
 program provides for these things. Why not make use of them?

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 From: Bill 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions


 I do it basicly like you, but I leave the comma out after cemetery;
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California.
 That leaves all my locations cinsistant with the form in Legacy
 minus USA --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Art Seddon  wrote:

 From: Art Seddon 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Very Basic Questions
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
 Hi Jane,

 I have any number of location entries with 5 or more
 fields, such as:
 Oakwood Memorial Cemetery, Chatsworth, Los Angeles,
 California, USA



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RE: [LegacyUG] Date of last update

2008-06-13 Thread M. Brenzel
Gary,

Yes, this is possible.  If you click to the left of the current fields shown
in the Individual Information screen (such as where the labels are for
birth, death, etc.), you will get a Customize Display screen.  Click on the
... next to the field that you want to replace, click on Date: Modified in
the Field Names to Display list and then Select.  There is a limited number
of characters that you can display in the new label by updating the Names to
Display field before closing the Customize Display form. 

Mary
 
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Does the capability exist in either version (6 or 7) of Legacy to show
the date of the last change, update, modification to an individuals
record? Seems this would be helpful in determining how current the
information was to help in checking for new info on the individual. Older
the last update was the more liklihood you might need to review.

Maybe this is something I should contact support as a possiblity for an
future update?

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RE: [LegacyUG] German Locations

2008-06-07 Thread M. Brenzel
Keith,

The first 2 fields are (I think) Reformed Evangelical and Church.  Edenkoben
is probably the town.

Mary


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Subject: [LegacyUG] German Locations

Was given the following as a location from a relative:
Evangelisch-Reformierta, Kirche, Edenkoben, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany

Any idea how to put it so the mapping progrom will map it? (or where it
is??)

Thanks
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RE: [LegacyUG] German Locations

2008-06-07 Thread M. Brenzel
Wow!  I sent this response Wednesday night and it just appeared in my inbox,
2 nights later.

Mary

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Keith,

The first 2 fields are (I think) Reformed Evangelical and Church.  Edenkoben
is probably the town.

Mary


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Subject: [LegacyUG] German Locations

Was given the following as a location from a relative:
Evangelisch-Reformierta, Kirche, Edenkoben, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany

Any idea how to put it so the mapping progrom will map it? (or where it
is??)

Thanks
Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering a Move

2008-05-20 Thread M. Brenzel
I have created an Event/Fact called Residential Move where I note a move,
whether from one address to another in the same city or to another state.

Mary

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering a Move

I have a letter from my mother to her new father-in-law which gives 
me the only evidence I have of when she moved from Mississippi to 
California.  How would you enter this event?  I see that one option 
offered is Emigration.  Would you use this or add an event called 
Move?  I don't have much detail.  I am imagining that I would 
override the sentence and create one that says Rubye moved from 
Mississippi to California in about 1939.  Can someone think of a better
way?

Many thanks,

Georgia Hall Chun

G E O R G I A  H A L L  C H U N
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sorting alternate names

2008-05-19 Thread M. Brenzel
What I have done is put the husband's name in [[   ]] in the wife's surname
field.  This way, they don't show up in reports but they will show in the
name and index lists.

For example, Elizabeth (unknown surname) is married to John Smith.  On her
Individual Information screen, the following would be entered:

Given:  Elizabeth
Surname:[[Smith, wife of John]]

She will appear in the list as [[Smith, wife of John]], Elizabeth. 

Mary
 

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That's a good idea Meg.  I do something similar but enclose the name  
in square brackets to indicate it is not the birth name, i.e.  
Elizabeth [Jones], John [Davis].  Of course mine doesn't sort as  
nicely and your method but I like having all the unknowns grouped  
together.

Regards,
Bob

On May 19, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Meg Greenwood wrote:

 Kimberly, I'm using an older version, v4, so these problems may have  
 been worked on in later versions.  To keep from having 7 Elizabeth  
 Unknowns and 12 Margaret Unknowns in my main list and have no way of  
 knowing who they belong to, I invented a workaround.  I think your  
 problem is a bit different, but you might be able to use this type  
 of naming alternative.

 I now give spouses with known given names but unknown surnames a  
 concoted surname like Elizabeth JonesWife1.  Elizabeth JonesWife2.   
 John DavisHusb.  I can further identify someone if I needed to by  
 using more data : Mary SmithWifeWm.  Thomas HallHusb3Catherine.  I  
 can then find the unknown wife or husband in the main surname list  
 as a SMITH, HALL or JONES [not UNKNOWN] and know right away who they  
 are supposed to go with.  I make the invented surname one word with  
 capitals in it so anyone will know its not a real surname.  
 Explanations are put in the NOTES section saying I'd added the name  
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RE: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

2008-05-16 Thread M. Brenzel
Ken,

I am also a long time user of Legacy, longer than some but shorter than
others.  I for one am being patient.  My research and recording of such can
continue along just nicely with version 6.  Sure, I'm anxious like everyone
else but I trust that Millennia knows what they are doing and can continue
to wait as long as necessary.  I'd rather have you do it all right (the
distribution of both Standard and Deluxe editions, the website, online
store, etc.) than listen to everyone gripe that their online order didn't go
through or downloading didn't work right because you rushed it.  I am a
software quality assurance analyst and there is nothing worse than a
customer rushing a release before all of the pieces are in place and
thoroughly tested.  Please everyone, let's just let them continue with their
plan.

Mary
 
Such a wise man...
 A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong
enough to take everything you have.
 All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience
to remain silent.
 The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.
- Thomas Jefferson


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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

 All it takes is for Millennia to put the program on an ftp
 server and add a single download link on their website.

That's true if all we were placing up there was the Standard Edition but
what 
fun would that be if you couldn't play with all the cool new Deluxe Edition 
features.   Also, we would kind of like to sell the Deluxe Edition and make
it 
available at the same time as the Standard Edition and we have a bunch of
work 
to re-vamp our website, redo our online store, finish up the training
videos, 
get CDs, work on press releases, compile mailing list to send out the 
announcements (so it's fair) and work on our ordering system to support the
new 
products, customer numbers, email lists, etc.

Those who purchase in last 10 months have already paid for Legacy 7.0 Deluxe
and 
really deserve to have it first.   We want to get Legacy ready and available
to 
everyone just as much as you want it.   I have just put in about 20 hours of

work and am headed to bed for a couple hours before I get up and do another
20 
hour day.   We are working hard to get it out to all of you.

Please, it's coming.   We ask for just a little more patience and
understanding.

Thanks

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RE: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Subscription Notification

2008-05-07 Thread M. Brenzel
Enough already!  Please stop talking about these messages.  This has
happened before.  I'm sure that the list admins are working on it.


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I have been getting lots of this particular email in the past hour...same 
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RE: [LegacyUG] unscribe

2008-04-14 Thread M. Brenzel
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RE: [LegacyUG] Employment Event vs Occupation Event

2008-04-11 Thread M. Brenzel
My thoughts are that Occupation is what is your job.  Employment is where
do/did you work for what dates.

For example, your occupation might be Nurse.  Employment would be the dates
that you worked at a particular hospital.


Mary
 
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bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.
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As far as Legacy is concerned, what is the difference between an Occupation
event and an Employment event? 
Or more generally, is there a cheat sheet somewhere that lists all the
predefined event names and what they actually mean?
Donna 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Name list query

2008-04-10 Thread M. Brenzel
Valerie,

Actually, if you have trouble remembering which person you were working on,
click on the little triangle between the large arrows on the toolbar.  It
will bring up a History List.  At the top of the list will be the person or
family that you were last working on.

Mary

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Thanks again Mike.

I do like to use keyboard shortcuts it saves the RSI shoulder.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow 
Wexford 
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON
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Valerie Garton wrote:
 Is it possible to add a new person whilst in the name list ?

Doesn't appear to be any way of doing other than editing existing people.

 If not which is the quickest way to do this please ?

Use the Esc key to get ack to the main page (the one with all the tabbed 
panels), then use Ctrl-N to add a New, Unlinked Individual.

Then Ctrl-I to get back into your Name List.

-- 
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Mike Fry
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RE: [LegacyUG] Kudos to Geoff!

2008-04-10 Thread M. Brenzel
My questions are - 

 

If Geoff made suggestions of passages to polish before the next printing,
how much of the original publication, purchased by many of us, has errors?
Does anyone know if those corrections will be available to those who own the
first printing?

 

Mary

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Kudos to Geoff!

 

Hi everyone, I couldn't help but copy this message from Elizabeth Shown
Mills to the APG (Associated Professional Genealogists) list last night.  It
sounds like her latest book, _Evidence Explained_ (EE for short), had some
great input and influence from Legacy's own Geoff Rasmussen!

 

I have renewed confidence that the new sourcing capabilities will be exactly
what the customers need: something easy to use for beginners and something
with as much sophistication as needed by professionals and other serious
genealogists.

 

Thanks Legacy for taking the time needed to ensure v7 will be something
truly wonderful.  I can't wait to take another serious look at my sources
with a new eye!

 

Gail Rich Nestor

Smyrna, GA

www.roots2buds.net http://www.roots2buds.net/ 

 

 

Elizabeth's message (intermingled with the comments from another APG
member):

 

BRAVA Elizabeth.

Thanks, Kathy--and Betty, for posting the GPC announcement. One sentence in
that announcement is important--or at least the last four words of this
snippet from the sentence:

Mrs. Mills' 2007 publication, the distillation of years of her own and her
colleagues' research experience 

EE would not have been possible without the contributions of *many* from
this list--many who shared their resources, many others who pushed me
outside my comfort zone to learn new materials I did not daily use, and
others who helped with more technical aspects. In addition to all those
mentioned in the acknowledgments, I should add one more--Geoff Rasmussen of
Legacy--who, post-publication, combed the volume with a fresh and
wonderfully critical eye, finding passages to polish before the new printing
went to press last month. No work is ever perfect, but thanks to Geoff's
meticulous effort, the new printing should be--in the words of the late,
great genealogist, Ge Lee Corley Hendrix, CG, FASG--more better :).

Thanks, *everybody.*

Elizabeth

 



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Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Name list query

2008-04-10 Thread M. Brenzel
Valerie,

To be honest, I don't think that the administrators want the messages to be
as short as possible.  I think that they would prefer if we got a clear
understanding of the situation and what your question is and not have to
send so many more messages trying to find out what you're asking.

Please explain in your email what you are doing, what you are experiencing,
what you would like to know.  None of us is a mind-reader.  When you author
your email, put yourself in our shoes.  Could you answer your question if
you were one of us?

Mary

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I always try and keep my messages as short as possible as the administrators
are always asking us to do so and I am always having a problem with my
requests because of this.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow 
Wexford 
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON

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Gidday Valerie
Just one solution - pen and paper! Note the RIN of the person you were last
looking at in the name list when you found there was a missing person - go
out, add them. Then go back to the name list and enter the RIN to take you
back to where you were.

PS. It really helps when you tell us what you are trying to do when you hit
a problem. Most of us don't use the programme for one name studies, we need
look at your problems through different lenses in order to help you.

All the best

-- 
Margaret
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Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2008 8:20 p.m.

I am trying to check my sources and in the process am finding some people
are missing and I have to leave where I am, go out and the into add and then
back to where I was. With my poor memory I am becoming quite lost.

Why didn't I start this when I was 7 ???





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RE: [LegacyUG] Kudos to Geoff!

2008-04-10 Thread M. Brenzel
I didn't buy the hardcopy version.  The PDF version seemed the easiest to
use.  I really don't want to buy another full version.  I'm now thinking
that I shouldn't have purchased it.

 

Mary

 

P.S.  This is interesting - my email made it into my inbox 15 minutes after
your reply.

 

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Mary,

 

I don't really know how to answer this. Yes, there were lots of errors that
she has now corrected. 885 pages is a really big book. Those errors really
couldn't have been caught by proofreaders unless they were involved in
computerizing the templates like we were. My understanding is that there
wasn't a comprehensive list kept by the publishers to let us all know
which pages were edited. Maybe the cheapest way of updating the first
printings would be to purchase the .pdf version of the book from
Footnote.com if they still sell it.

 

Thanks,

 

Geoff Rasmussen

Millennia Corporation

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www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Kudos to Geoff!

 

My questions are - 

 

If Geoff made suggestions of passages to polish before the next printing,
how much of the original publication, purchased by many of us, has errors?
Does anyone know if those corrections will be available to those who own the
first printing?

 

Mary

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:49 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Kudos to Geoff!

 

Hi everyone, I couldn't help but copy this message from Elizabeth Shown
Mills to the APG (Associated Professional Genealogists) list last night.  It
sounds like her latest book, _Evidence Explained_ (EE for short), had some
great input and influence from Legacy's own Geoff Rasmussen!

 

I have renewed confidence that the new sourcing capabilities will be exactly
what the customers need: something easy to use for beginners and something
with as much sophistication as needed by professionals and other serious
genealogists.

 

Thanks Legacy for taking the time needed to ensure v7 will be something
truly wonderful.  I can't wait to take another serious look at my sources
with a new eye!

 

Gail Rich Nestor

Smyrna, GA

www.roots2buds.net http://www.roots2buds.net/ 

 

 

Elizabeth's message (intermingled with the comments from another APG
member):

 

BRAVA Elizabeth.

Thanks, Kathy--and Betty, for posting the GPC announcement. One sentence in
that announcement is important--or at least the last four words of this
snippet from the sentence:

Mrs. Mills' 2007 publication, the distillation of years of her own and her
colleagues' research experience 

EE would not have been possible without the contributions of *many* from
this list--many who shared their resources, many others who pushed me
outside my comfort zone to learn new materials I did not daily use, and
others who helped with more technical aspects. In addition to all those
mentioned in the acknowledgments, I should add one more--Geoff Rasmussen of
Legacy--who, post-publication, combed the volume with a fresh and
wonderfully critical eye, finding passages to polish before the new printing
went to press last month. No work is ever perfect, but thanks to Geoff's
meticulous effort, the new printing should be--in the words of the late,
great genealogist, Ge Lee Corley Hendrix, CG, FASG--more better :).

Thanks, *everybody.*

Elizabeth

 



-- 
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Linking files to Legacy 6.0

2008-04-03 Thread M. Brenzel
So what do you do if you later find another family on the same page as 
DorseyWE?  Do you make another copy of the same page but name it for the head 
of that household?  And what about when the person you are connected to is a 
boarder in a house?  Have the file named for the head of household who has no 
connection whatsoever to your family?  Just curious because I find it easier to 
have generic names for my documents so that I can attach them to as many people 
as necessary.

Mary

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All of my census images are in this format.

Year US Census, State, County, City or Militia Dist, last name and initial of 
head of household.

Example:
1880 US Census, Georgia, Clarke, Athens, DorseyWE

They then line up by Date and Location and are easily found.
Works for me. Most of my Census images have been saved in .gif or .tiff format 
but it does not matter as I sort by image name not type.

 Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Help!  I can see how pdf would have it's advantages. Among other things, it 
 would simplify those census images where one family continues from the 
 bottom of one page to the top of the next by combining them into one file.
 
 I can't quite figure out the best way to name my census image pdfs, though.
 
 Bearing in mind all my census sources are from the U.S.  I want to use 
 Geoff's MRIN filing system plus J.L.'s way of  referencing digital images in 
 a digital library:  What I'd like to do is lump my census sources into year 
 plus state (or at most, year plus state plus county) and put the rest of the 
 information into the citation detail.  I'm wondering how best to name the 
 digital census pdfs in my digital library, given all the above.
 
 I suppose I could just name these pdfs yearstatenumeral  (1880texas1) or 
 yearstate_countynumeral (1880texas_coryell1) with the consecutive numbers 
 on the end being the differentiator among them.  Do you think that sounds 
 workable?
 
 Right now, all these images are jpgs and digitally filed in folders of the 
 family surname(s) found on them; I have duplicates in the many instances 
 where more than one family surname is found on the same image.  It's going 
 to be a big project to put them into pdfs  rename them, so I want to be 
 reasonably sure where I'm going with this.
 
 What do y'all suggest?  J.L.?  Anybody?
 
 Thanks!
 Penny
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Linking files to Legacy 6.0
 
 
 I like to link pictures to sources so mostly I do source records as 
 graphics. Most of my Master Sources exist as pdf as they're multiple pages 
 of text, for example a cemetery listing. All are linked by number using the 
 MRIN filing system, which also cross-references to a folder full of the 
 digitized versions. Pretty big folder but it works fine. If you haven't 
 read about it yet:
 
  http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2007-06-01-mrin_filing_revisited.shtml
 
  I would say the only benefit to pdf's as far as Legacy goes is being able 
  to open them directly from a gallery inside Legacy. Generally I would copy 
  and paste the text directly into the appropriate Notes field. There are 
  some documents (mixed text and graphics) that don't easily fit in any of 
  the above solutions. I put those into the general organization of my 
  family history which is set up in a family folder structure that is 
  defined the same way in Passage Express. I think it comes down to how you 
  imagine sharing your history.
 
  JL
  JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
  http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Linking files to Legacy 6.0

2008-04-03 Thread M. Brenzel
Go to the archives of Legacy News for October 2006.  You'll see reference to 
previous articles about organizing files.  One of the methods described is 
mine.  I also make reference in mine how they are then connected into Legacy.

Mary

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Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Linking files to Legacy 6.0

Thanks to all of you who have replied to my initial question.  I've learned 
a couple of things from you about this.  Among other things,  I didn't know 
there was such a thing as IrfanView until now.  (I'll take a look at it  
appreciate your pointing it out to me.)  And I'll admit I hadn't considered 
pasting one image into the area next to another and saving the whole thing 
as one image.  That's obviously a good workaround to having two separate 
census images for one family.

For those of you who include reference to the specific head-of-house in the 
image file name and/or begin the file name with a couple's MRIN number, I 
have another question:  what do you do about naming images of census pages 
which have two or more individual families, and therefore, two or more MRINs 
on them?  These are not members of the same household, but they are all 
people in my database; sometimes they are not actually kin to each other, 
but are only kin to mutual people.  I also have multiple instances of  my 
gg-grandparents in one household, two doors down are my g-grandparents, and 
next door is a sibling to my g-gp with his/her family.  The three families 
aren't living together, they're living close to one another.  Do you have 
duplicates of the same image, each with a name that reflects this 
head-of-household or each couple's MRIN?  Or, are you picking out one family 
of the three and naming the census image with that one head-of-house or one 
couple's MRIN in it and then referencing that number for all the rest, even 
though they aren't in the same actual household???

I expect I'm being dense here.  Sorry, but I'd like a little more 
clarification on how others do this.

Thanks again!  You're all great!
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

2008-03-21 Thread M. Brenzel
How about putting House of David etc in the User ID field for each
appropriate person.  Then you can search on that and create a list.  From
the search list, you can select the information to print in the report from
the Print button.  You can output the report as a CSV file and bring it
into Excel.

Mary

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
line items, such as:
 
Kent Myrick    House of David    E-mail address
 
I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file, 
but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.
 
Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant
ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
their names, e.g.  House of David,   House of Isaac  and so on. We had
name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of creating
smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
separately.
 
We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT 
all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently 
note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
 
I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
do what I need.  Or is there
 
And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.  
 
Is there any other way?
 
Kent Myrick
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

2008-03-21 Thread M. Brenzel
And when I said search on the User ID I meant that you can search on User ID
contains House of and you'll get all of the people.

Mary

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

Brilliant!  good grief.  Or go with the original writer's suggestion of 
putting House of into an unused address field.  Something/anything 
that can be searched.  Original writer - yoo hoo, still there?

JL
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M. Brenzel wrote:
 How about putting House of David etc in the User ID field for each
 appropriate person.  Then you can search on that and create a list.  From
 the search list, you can select the information to print in the report
from
 the Print button.  You can output the report as a CSV file and bring it
 into Excel.

 Mary

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 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:00 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Re:SORTABLE LISTS?

 Is there any kind of report (file) Legacy can make that will show simple
 line items, such as:
  
 Kent MyrickHouse of DavidE-mail address
  
 I need to be able to sort the file.  I can do it in a word processor file,

 but it would really simplify things for me if Legacy can do it somehow.
  
 Why?  Several years ago we had a Frazier family reunion.  Our immigrant
 ancestor had 7 children, and just for fun, we divided the group up by
 their names, e.g.  House of David,   House of Isaac  and so on. We had
 name tags and a hand-drawn chart showing each House and the members
 of each who were at the reunion.  It turned out to be a fun way of
creating
 smaller groups of closer relatives, and we photographed each House
 separately.
  
 We kept lists of each House by hand back then, but all have since been 
 lost and re-creating them is a labor I'd rather not take on again.  BUT 
 all those people are in my Legacy file, and if I could somehow permanently

 note them in a file, I'd be ecstatic.
  
 I know there's one way to do it with the Address File. There are already 
 blanks for name and e-mail address, and I could put the House in any of
 the other fields that I don't need.  But there's no way to sort that list
 and print it out except by using the Name Tag function, which doesn't
 do what I need.  Or is there
  
 And I don't want to use the Tags because they're not permanent markers.  
  
 Is there any other way?
  
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RE: [LegacyUG] Password for new charting program

2008-03-11 Thread M. Brenzel
Wallcharts - this has been given quite a few times on this list.

Sorry, can't tell you how long it will take to download on a dial-up
connection.

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Password for new charting program

Could some one please give me the password and also tell me how long it
would take to download using dialup ?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
 Wexford 
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RE: Can't open Legacy (was Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Pre-Release Edition Now Available For Free Download0

2008-03-08 Thread M. Brenzel
wallcharts

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Subject: RE: Can't open Legacy (was Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting
Pre-Release Edition Now Available For Free Download0

Can some one tell me what the password is for opening the new Charting
Program please ?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
 Wexford 
Guild of One-Name Studies No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON

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Pre-Release Edition Now Available For Free Download0


Hi Bob,

Did you try rebooting your computer?  And if that didn't work, did you 
shut it down and leave it off for five minutes or so before starting it 
up again?

Sometimes things get a little confused, and this helps to reset the 
memory and stuff.

If you're still having difficulties, please let us know what operating 
system you're using, what version of Legacy you're using (just 5, 6 or 
whatever if you can't tell us the exact release to three decimals) and 
what exactly happens when you try to start the program, so we can 
continue to try assisting you.

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard

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*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Pre-Release Edition Now Available 
For Free Download


 I am unable to open a Legacy or any other file.  it seems to think the
 file is open which it isn't  Any suggestions?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Pre-Release Edition Now Available For Free Download

2008-03-04 Thread M. Brenzel
When you downloaded it, the password was on the screen!

Mary

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Hi Keith 

Same here and have to admit I am very excited.

Anne

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For Free Download

What a tease! I have been able to download Legacy Charting but am still
waiting on my password to arrive.

But seriously, thanks for the Pre-release Geoff and all you guys at
Millennia. You know there are many eager folks waiting to give this a spin.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Documenting negative searches

2008-02-24 Thread M. Brenzel
Ones that you still need to do will have an open status.  If it's
negative, it will be closed as it will be completed.

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The only thing I am concerned about is that the list of to-dos will get 
confusing, which ones are negative searches and which ones are things I 
still need to do!

michele


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Documenting negative searches


 Michele, like Kristin says, the To-do list is your permanent record of
 your searches. You want to keep the negative ones so that you know you
 did look for them once in those conditions. Just make a note of it in
 the Results tab after you close it.

 Another good thing, too, is that it dates when you closed it. You
 might hear that they've added more data to a database, and so you can
 see when was the last time you checked a database, and do more looking
 if appropriate.

 Susan

 On 2/24/08, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where do y'all document NEGATIVE searches?  Do you just have a list under
 the general tab? research tab?

 Or, do you make a to-do for it and document that the search was negative?

 I
 am not sure how that would work.  Right now what I do is when I have done
 something on the to-do list I just delete it.

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RE: [LegacyUG] re: Sudden Shutdown

2008-02-16 Thread M. Brenzel
I make periodic backups of my .usr and all report definition files (such as
.lrp).  That way, when my laptop actually croaked recently, I was able to
restore all of my settings to the new laptop.  Once I reinstalled Legacy,
unlocked the Deluxe version and copied my database and settings files, I was
back in business!  r my editorial comment - Sony makes great TVs, terrible
laptops!  Both my son's and mine died within 2 years.  Thank God for Best
Buy extended warranties, we now have brand new laptops for no additional
cost.)

Mary

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] re: Sudden Shutdown

Thanks - I think that McAfee deleted my .usr files as I could find .usr 
files in C:\Legacy and C:\Program Files\Legacy too.   I tried using 
older ones, but it had lost data so I then opened Legacy with the 2006 
.usr files restored and then opened my most recent backup and now it all 
looks fine.McAfee 'says' it only deleted cookies and the missing 
.usr files were not in quarantine.

However, as I have copies of Legacy (Deluxe) in both C:\Legacy and in 
C:\Program Files\Legacy, what is the best way of dealing with that, 
please?  Should I move all of one set to the other place, or delete one 
set?  I am using Windows XP not Vista.  I get regular updates from 
Legacy and am using Version 6.0.0.179 - they presumably all go in the 
same place.

Your comment about backing up the .usr files, do you mean storing them 
on the CD when I backup Legacy and the Multimedia files?  I have never 
done that.

Elizabeth

Cathy wrote:
 Hi Elizabeth,

 This doesn't normally happen with any form of scan on a computer but 
 every now and again one of the AntiMalware softwares get false 
 positives and it sounds like whatever was scanning took exception to 
 something in the Legacy files.

 Closing Legacy by right clicking on it when it's minimised to the Task 
 Bar is no problem. I do it all the time.

 It sounds like you've lost all your .usr files and they've all 
 reverted to the defaults.

 The fonts etc that you are referring to aren't held within the .fdb 
 file. That only has your data so going to a backup of your Family File 
 won't return the fonts etc.
 You have to re choose your options in Options  Customise and 
 everywhere else - unless you can see that whatever was scanning has 
 quarantined the files somewhere and you can release them.

 Another possibility is that you've got two installations of Legacy on 
 your computer and you've opened a different one. If you installed 
 Legacy into Program Files, take a look to see whether you also have a 
 C:\Legacy folder. That's the default location but many of us install 
 to Program Files - though I understand things are different with 
 Vista. If you are using Vista and you installed to the Program Files 
 folder, then I think the .usr files etc get put in some virtual store 
 or something? Sorry. I don't have Vista but know that programs aren't 
 allowed to write to the Program folders after installation. There's 
 information on the Legacy web pages on how to properly install Legacy 
 to run under Vista.

 Are you a Deluxe user? Have you also lost access to the Deluxe 
 features? If so, you'll need to re-enter your Customer Number as well.

 For another occasion: I include the .usr files in my regular computer 
 backup so that I can restore them if/when necessary.

 Cheers,
 Cathy

 At 07:55 AM 16/02/2008, you wrote:
 Earlier today when my computer was doing a regular scan Legacy 
 suddenly stopped responding and shut down.  I wasn't using the 
 program at the time and had tried to close it by right-clicking the 
 icon on the bar at the bottom of my computer screen.  I re-started 
 the computer and tried to open Legacy again.  It asked me which file 
 to open and found the Master.fdb file that I use but when it opened, 
 all the fonts had changed to the default and other minor things were 
 different.  I then closed that and opened up one of my backup copies 
 but the file still looks different.

 I am normally elsewhere on a Friday morning which is why the routine 
 scan takes place then but today I was at my computer.  Should I have 
 stopped the scan working while I was using the computer?

 Can anyone explain why this happened and should I do anything to stop 
 it happening again?
 Elizabeth

 I forgot to add that when I open Legacy since it shut down, I get the 
 Welcome to Legacy 6 tips window and then the offer to Order a Legacy 
 Manual.  My information appears to be fine but why has this happened, 
 please?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Surname List

2008-02-02 Thread M. Brenzel
That's happened to me a number of times.  And it always seems to be when
I've had Legacy open for days (I run on a laptop that I hibernate when
not using it).  Restarting Legacy is the fix!

Mary

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname List

Had tried the repair but not the close/reopen. That fixed it. Thanks, 
Dave.

 You're very welcome.  It seems to happen when I've had Legacy open for
some hours, I don't know if that was the case with you.

  Regards,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing

2008-01-28 Thread M. Brenzel
Cathy,

Just curious - do you have one Master Source for each year of the census
regardless of location or do you break them down by state, state/county
or state/county/town?

Mary

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing

Hi Wendy,

Yes you can but think about whether you'll get yourself into more of 
a mess. That depends on what you have in the Source Detail.
If for the NSW BDMs you haven't indicated in the Source Detail 
whether you're recording birth, death and marriage (which you may not 
have done as that was in your Master Source) you'll have reference 
numbers that won't make complete sense.

RE the Censuses. I prefer to have a Master Source for each Census 
year and yet I'm a confirmed lumper :-) Using Show List in the Source 
is a quick easy way to get a list of everyone you've found in a 
particular census year. To get that list from a Search on Census 
event and date is much more difficult. You can do it provided you've 
added a complete date for the Census and no other events occur on 
that exact date or put the year in the Description or something - but 
it's a double search instead of a simple Show List

Cathy


At 01:50 PM 28/01/2008, you wrote:

Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o)
I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate 
Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw 
Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South 
Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the actual
source.
Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the 
British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off 
under just British Census.
My question is...how do I go back and change all that without 
getting meself in a pickle, please?  Can I do that?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing

2008-01-28 Thread M. Brenzel
Thanks, Cathy.  I appreciate hearing how you handle this.  I have both
US and British census.

Mary

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing

Hi Mary,

I'm not dealing with US Censuses.

The British Censuses are referenced for the whole country in a very 
logical (British?) way. No need to divide by county. Besides some 
census districts/pieces cross county boundaries as Registration 
Districts do, so it would be bringing in an artifical division with 
no relevance to the census.
I would divide off Scotland if I was fortunate enough to have any 
Scottish censuses as they're available through a different site. 
Unfortunately my Scots ancestors left before Censuses and I can't 
find their relatives.

Similarly, before all the Censuses were available at Ancestry I made 
a Census source for each Census film I viewed. I'm in process of 
combining them as I get the better images from Ancestry.

My principle for dividing sources is one database, one Master Source.

Cathy

At 08:21 AM 29/01/2008, you wrote:

Cathy,

Just curious - do you have one Master Source for each year of the
census
regardless of location or do you break them down by state, state/county
or state/county/town?

Mary

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re-organizing sourcing

Hi Wendy,

Yes you can but think about whether you'll get yourself into more of
a mess. That depends on what you have in the Source Detail.
If for the NSW BDMs you haven't indicated in the Source Detail
whether you're recording birth, death and marriage (which you may not
have done as that was in your Master Source) you'll have reference
numbers that won't make complete sense.

RE the Censuses. I prefer to have a Master Source for each Census
year and yet I'm a confirmed lumper :-) Using Show List in the Source
is a quick easy way to get a list of everyone you've found in a
particular census year. To get that list from a Search on Census
event and date is much more difficult. You can do it provided you've
added a complete date for the Census and no other events occur on
that exact date or put the year in the Description or something - but
it's a double search instead of a simple Show List

Cathy


At 01:50 PM 28/01/2008, you wrote:

 Yes another dreaded sourcing question :o)
 I now realise that I have made work for myself by creating separate
 Master Source entries, for example, Nsw Births, Nsw Deaths, Nsw
 Marriages...when I should of probably had just one for New South
 Wales BDM Registry and then added the extra information for the
actual
source.
 Another example is that I've created separate MSourses for the
 British Census from 1841 to 1901 when they would of been better off
 under just British Census.
 My question is...how do I go back and change all that without
 getting meself in a pickle, please?  Can I do that?
 
 Wendy [AU]




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RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]

2008-01-21 Thread M. Brenzel
Cathy,

If this is the case - 

There is an enhancement request in, I believe, to 
add Marriage events to Individual reports. How it then remains
an 
Individual report is a mystery to me but then I don't use them
so 
can't really comment. :-)

Then why do marriage dates and places and spouses appear on an
Individual Report at all?  They are on the Marriage Information screen
along with Marriage Events.

Mary


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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event--[WifeSurname] versus [WifeMarriedSurname]

Hi Gary,
The Help file clearly states that these codes ONLY work in the 
Marriage Events. There is an enhancement request in, I believe, to 
add Marriage events to Individual reports. How it then remains an 
Individual report is a mystery to me but then I don't use them so 
can't really comment. :-)

That said, these codes don't yet work as there is no place yet to 
give the Married Surnames of Husband and Wife. Legacy can only guess 
at Women's married surnames as it does in the Calendar Creator - so 
it is often wrong in these days where in cultures where the woman 
used to take the husband's surname on marriage, this now often 
doesn't happen - let alone other cultures where women have never 
taken the husband's surname. Note the provision is being made for 
Husband's who change their surname on marriage as well.

Cathy

At 10:47 AM 22/01/2008, you wrote:

Susan
Thank you for your comments.  Your supposition may be accurate.

Your comments reminded me of festering issue.  I am an advocate of
placing
the residence of a married couple as an Event under Marriage
Information.
Regrettably no Marriage Information Events appear on Individual
Reports.  I
don't understand the logic of this.

It makes sense to record one address of a couple in one location (as an
Event under Marriage Information) than the same address in two separate
locations (as an Event under each individual).

When running Individual Reports, it would still be appropriate to have
the
joint marriage events appear on the Individual Reports for both
individuals.
Not doing so gives a very inaccurate chronological report of
significant
life events on the Individual Reports.

Soin response to your question, no, the event was not created in
Marriage Events.  I do very little placing of events there because of
Legacy's limitation of not having the information appear on Individual
Reports.
Gary

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[WifeMarriedSurname]
 
  Gary - I didn't follow the whole thread, so I'm sorry if this was
asked.
 
  Was the event created in Marriage Events or Individual Events? I
would
  think it cannot work in Individual Events because the program would
  not know which marriage to take the surname from. At least a
Marriage
  Event would show which spouse.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] New Jan 14th Revision

2008-01-15 Thread M. Brenzel
I can tell you that the problem with sources printing on Individual
Reports has been fixed.  Now both options for printing sources, either
as endnotes at the end of each report or as endnotes at the end of all
reports function as they are supposed to.

I did however find a minor cosmetic bug when they are printed at the end
of all reports.  This was reported last night and confirmed by Brian in
Support this morning.

Mary

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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Hmmm - good question since it doesn't say on the web site:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory6.asp

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 OK then! What's changed?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

2008-01-08 Thread M. Brenzel
Keith,
 
Yes, there is!  Go to the Master Source that you want to copy.  Open it
to edit, change to match what you want the new source to be.  When you
save it, you will get a dialog box with 2 choices.  Be sure to select
#2 to save it as a new source.
 
Mary
 
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To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources
 
I am trying to update my Census Sources (a start!) to follow the Mills
format.  I am finding myself typing the same thing - over and over!  Is
there a way to copy a source - paste the entire thing into the MASTER
SOURCE form and just modifying the year (for example)?? 

Thanks,
Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources printing on the second page

2008-01-04 Thread M. Brenzel
No, it has not.  I've been told by Support that it will be in the next
release.

Mary

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources printing on the second page

I am wondering if this problem has been fixed yet ?

It was not happening before ?

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
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 Wexford 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources printing on the second page

2008-01-04 Thread M. Brenzel
I notified the list when I discovered this was broken.  The fix for a
problem I had reported was in .168.  When I downloaded .168 to check the
fix, I found that this was now broken.

Mary

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sources printing on the second page

Thanks Mary.

Perhaps all should be warned not to upgrade to the latest one as this is
when I got the problem.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin, Wicklow
 Wexford 
GOON member No: 4825 for CULLODEN  HIGGINSON

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sources printing on the second page


No, it has not.  I've been told by Support that it will be in the next
release.

Mary

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources printing on the second page

I am wondering if this problem has been fixed yet ?

It was not happening before ?

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 Wexford 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Sources

2007-12-30 Thread M. Brenzel
I had a situation that I found where in some source details I had page
and in others Page.  I wanted to make them consistent.  Doing it
through Legacy would have been quite a task.  I opened the database in
Access, found the correct table, created a query of the source detail
field, sorted it and was able to make all of my entries consistent.
Search and Replace was very easy.

I know that this is not something that everyone using Legacy can do,
whether it is because they don't have Access or don't know really how to
use it.  But this was a quick fix for me and I am very happy making
these changes so easily.  

Mary

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Nestor
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

Hi Wynthner, in my specific case, if I split every single obit I found
into its own separate master source, I would have tens of thousands
(if not hundreds of thousands) of individual sources in my files!
That's the downside of sourcing everything AND having a
medium-to-large database.

Now let's say I found a typo in the word Journal below.  I would
have to go back for every single obit and correct it.  On the other
hand, by lumping all articles found in this newspaper into one
master source, I would only have to make one change to the master and
all the individual sources would instantly be fixed.  That's the
beauty of what people refer to as source lumping.

Also, I can search a specific newspaper (or cemetery, or census year
and county) and very quickly know who all I've found in that paper (or
other master source).  That's, to me, what makes using a database so
powerful!

Hope that all makes sense...

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On Dec 30, 2007 7:52 AM, Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But.. but... but...
 Can't this exact thing be accomplished by making the master source:

 iThe Journal-Patriot [microfilm]/i, Wilkesboro, North Carolina
 (Wilkes County Community College Library);obituary for John Doe, vol.
XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5

 and then adding that to his wife and children?

 I really fail to see where the number of Master Sources is important
to anything as long as I can find them on some sort of list.

 Guess I suffer from a very advanced case of spliteritis!



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 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:18:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources


 Hi Ron and others, I know this is a complicated situation to try to
 explain and I think it would mainly benefit those with medium to large
 databases and those who lump (who have a master source with lots of
 details and apply those same details to multiple people, facts, and
 events).  Let me see if an example might help.

 I find an obituary for John Doe:

 I first create a master source like
 iThe Journal-Patriot [microfilm]/i, Wilkesboro, North Carolina
 (Wilkes County Community College Library)

 This master source could be the source for several different peoples'
 obits, each of which can apply to many people and/or events.

 Now let's say I create a citation detail for one specific article I
 find in this newspaper:
 obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933, page 5

 I might want to apply this master source and the source detail to John
 Doe's name, birth date, death date, religion, and occupation.  I might
 also want to apply this same master plus detail to John Does' wife,
 parents, and children.

 I could use Legacy's source template to copy and paste the master plus
 detail combo to all the people and facts.  That would be fine except
 that there would be muliple copies of this exact same master plus
 detail floating around in Legacy's database.  If I needed to make a
 correction to the detail, I would have to search and replace the
 erroneous portion in every individual copy of this in Legacy.

 If the source plus detail were only entered once in Legacy, I envision
this:
 1) I first select a (previously entered) master source from Legacy
 (like I already would now)
 2) I then see a drop down box with each previously entered citation
 detail choice:

 i.e. obituary for John Doe, vol. XXVI, no. 103, Monday, 20 Nov 1933,
page 5
 obituary for Jane Doe, vol. XXVII, no. 112, Monday, 5 May 1942, page 1
 obituary for Baby Doe, vol XXII, no. 74, Monday, 12 February 1921,
page 3

 3) I would click the one I wanted or I could add a new one
 4) I would then click the place to apply the master plus detail (John
 Doe's name, Jane Doe's name, John Doe's place of birth, etc.)


 The benefit is that you would select the detail to associate with the
 master source and then Legacy would create a link to the entire source
 set (master plus detail).  You would not have identical copies of
 master plus detail like the example below floating around in Legacy
 attached to 

RE: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

2007-12-09 Thread M. Brenzel
Well, as many of us, myself included have said - this is a very flexible
program and you can record your information pretty much any way you
want.  Personally, even if someone tells me that so-and-so was born on
such-and-such date, I record it in the birth event with the person who
told me as the source.  If I find physical evidence that substantiates
what the person told me, that gets a high surety mark where the person's
report has a low one but both get credit as a source.

Mary

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

I actually treat both the same. If Aunt Mary tells me that Cousin John
was born  then I make an event InfoRcvd that records the fact that
Mary said so but I do not make an Birth event for cousin John based on
that info. I make an event InfoRpt for John that says maary says he
was born .

Birth, Marriage, Death, Burial events are created in my database only if
there is an original contemporary document available as a source.

- Original Message 
From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 8:29:57 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

Why?  Why is the IGI any different than a family member saying that
something happened on such-and-such date?  List the event as you would
any other bit of information and put the IGI as a source.  If this is a
birth record, then when you get true information from a birth record (if
possible) then it gets added as a source for that information.  You can
always swap Alt Birth with the Birth information, for example.

Mary

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I'd probably commit suicide before using the IGI as a Master Source! 
I add an event to the person called Verify and list all IGI info in that
event as a task to be verified.
Indexes (of any kind) are not sources but merely clues and hints to the
original documents which ARE sources and which I put in my master Source
List.




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Subject: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

I am about to tidy up my Legacy file now that I know a little more.

I want to start with all the entries that are there from the IGI and
also to add many more so I want to do it right.

Yes I know it is my list and I can do it any way I like so long as
anyone can find the information BUT I would like some input as to how
others have managed the IGI as a Master Source.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Emigration/Immigration

2007-12-09 Thread M. Brenzel
I have an event called Travel.
 
Mary
 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Emigration/Immigration
 
I'm having enough trouble keeping straight when a person emigrates and
when he/she immigrates, but what do I call it when a naturalized
American citizen sails back to his home country for a visit? I looked
through all the Event Definitions and can't find anything. Is there an
Event Definition for a citizen sailing? I've just added an Event
Definition for Passport because that's where I found this information.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism events in wrong field

2007-12-08 Thread M. Brenzel
What's the difference between Christening and Baptism?  Thought that
they were the same, just different names used by different religions.

Mary

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Baptism events in wrong field

 I have a large number of Baptisms in the Events field. 

Understood

When dealing with each individual I can swap the information for the
Christening
 field, but this involves a lot of mouse work as I then have to delete
 the baptism event.

What sort of information and where is it, and if you are swapping from
the Christening Event to the Baptism Event why are you deleting the
latter?

I have a long list where there is a baptism in the
 events field, but is there any way I can swap all of them with one
 action rather than each one individually, please?

Swap what from what to what ( eg. the field name, the information)?

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

2007-12-08 Thread M. Brenzel
Why?  Why is the IGI any different than a family member saying that
something happened on such-and-such date?  List the event as you would
any other bit of information and put the IGI as a source.  If this is a
birth record, then when you get true information from a birth record (if
possible) then it gets added as a source for that information.  You can
always swap Alt Birth with the Birth information, for example.

Mary

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

I'd probably commit suicide before using the IGI as a Master Source! 
I add an event to the person called Verify and list all IGI info in that
event as a task to be verified.
Indexes (of any kind) are not sources but merely clues and hints to the
original documents which ARE sources and which I put in my master Source
List.




- Original Message 
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 5:42:07 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to make a Master Source of the IGI

I am about to tidy up my Legacy file now that I know a little more.

I want to start with all the entries that are there from the IGI and
also to add many more so I want to do it right.

Yes I know it is my list and I can do it any way I like so long as
anyone can find the information BUT I would like some input as to how
others have managed the IGI as a Master Source.

Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney. 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citations printing on extra last page

2007-12-08 Thread M. Brenzel
Ron,

Actually it was a bug that came out when another bug related to sources
that I found on Individual Report creation was fixed.  It must use
similar program code for the Family Group Sheet.

Mary 

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Valerie,

There has been a very recent discussion on this which wull be in the LUG
Archives. If I remember correctly it is a bug which went but came back
after the last update.

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 Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:46:53 +1100

 I know I did it before but now can not work out how to fix this
problem

 My Source Citations are printing on an extra last page - how do I get
 them to print at the end of the Family Record Report please ?

 Regards from Valerie in sunny Sydney.
 Researching: BEDDY, CULLODEN, DYAS and ROWAN in Belfast, Dublin,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual Report - how to print on one page?

2007-12-02 Thread M. Brenzel
This problem is known by Legacy.  They were fixing a different problem
that I found with the sources on the Individual Report.  They fixed my
problem in build 6.0.0.168.  Unfortunately, I found that the problem
with sources being printed on a 2nd page for 1 person or all at the end
if you print the Individual Report for many people resulted after the
fix.  Brian has reported back to me that the programmers have found the
problem and it will be fixed in the next build.

Mary

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Rob Miller wrote
Where is the with each individual report option? I can't seem to 
locate it.

In Report Options, Sources tab, under the check box for Print Source 
Citations is a heading Where to Print.  Under that there is a radio 
button for With each individual report and indented below that a check 
box for Start on new page, then another radio button for At end of all 
reports.

My setting, to print Sources on the same page, was Include Chronology 
pages UNchecked, Print Source Citations checked, With each individual 
report checked, Start on new page UNchecked and At end of all reports 
UNchecked.
-- 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

2007-11-22 Thread M. Brenzel
The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on
the web pages created in Legacy.  I checked all of the web page formats
available and don't see those addresses in the options to display.

Mary

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

 
Does anyone have a sample of how their web page looks when they do NOT
put
the cemetery name in the burial location field, but rather put the city,
county, state, country there and then put the burial address on the +
Burial
Address Screen? I have seen Ron's with doing it the other way, and it
comes
in nicely on the web page.

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry


Michele,

How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean
geolocation
as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I have not seen
Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in the Location
Field, but, for me, it makes no difference.

Ron Ferguson


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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500

 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do

 that so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used
to
do...

 Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that 
 messes up Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the 
 wrong spots)

 Now I just have

 Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the 
 additional info box to the right side.

 michele


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 From: ronald ferguson 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry



 Michele,

 In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph 
 Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I 
 have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, 
 England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there 
 did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full 
 address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the 
 house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen
the
house number/name and the street).

 You can see the webpage output for Edward at 
 http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing)

 Ron Ferguson


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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500

 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery?

 - Original Message -
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 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry



 Jennifer,

 I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my 
 mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which 
 Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the 
 users for more choice).

 I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address 
 options except for the current addresses of living people. All my 
 full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print 
 correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location 
 Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours 
 easily or who lived in the same houses. No problems!

 It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean 
 one has to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I 
 pick the option I wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. 
 I see no need to mix them.

 This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but

 to raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same

 purpose.

 Ron Ferguson


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RE: [LegacyUG] Bookmark Box on Family View Screen

2007-11-22 Thread M. Brenzel
I put myself in one box and my husband in a 2nd one.  Easy access to
both of our trees!

Mary

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Put yourself in the box smile
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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

2007-11-22 Thread M. Brenzel
Ron,

My reply went through immediately.  I'm more likely to suspect my ISP.

Mary

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Mary,

Mine have also been taking hours to get through. I have been wondering
whether it was due to the Legacy Servers/MSN/General Internet
Overload/Because I'm in the UK. Since you are not from the UK and not
using MSN that only leaves two options!

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 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:14:57 -0500

 I sent this message Tuesday night. It just showed up this morning. Now
 that's a timely response!

 Mary

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 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

 The addresses that you can add through the '+' cannot be displayed on
 the web pages created in Legacy. I checked all of the web page formats
 available and don't see those addresses in the options to display.

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RE: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated

2007-11-21 Thread M. Brenzel
You can change the wording for sentences in the Master Event list and it
will carry over to each person using that event.  You can also change
them for an individual but it will not be a global change.
 
Mary
 
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Subject: [LegacyUG] I am very frustrated
 
I printed out a test run of a descendancy report of one of my ancestors
(just a couple of generations worth) and the output is not good.  I
would have to import this report into Word and clean it up.  All of the
wording is wrong, formating is wrong etc (based on the standards in
place by the Board for Certification of Genealogists and the wonderful
book Professional Genealogy by Elizabeth Shown Mills, as well as her
citation books).  I am not saying that the report should be coming out
perfect and I am glad that you can change the wording on the event
fields (sentence override) but I am going to have to go in and pretty
much change the wording on all of the event fields (and I am thinking
that I am going to have to do this on each individual and that any
changes I make will not carry over person to person).
 
I know that the new version of Legacy will have a source wizard of sorts
that will format the sources to comform to the standards outlined by
Elizabeth Shown Mills but I wonder if there should be a data wizard that
will make sure that all of the data is in a standarized format. 
 
Having a feature in the program where you can input your data into a
book format is not helpful if there are so many errors in how it comes
out.  There is no way someone could just hit the button and POOF!  a
formatted book comes out.  You would have to import the entire book into
Word and clean it up which would take countless hours (might be easier
to just type it in from scratch using a printout from Legacy as your
notes).
 
I do want to say that I really do like Legacy.  It has a lot of great
features that the other programs don't have but this is a shortcoming
and I am hoping this is an area where there will be some improvement.
 
Michele Lewis
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RE: [LegacyUG]

2007-11-20 Thread M. Brenzel
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RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

2007-11-20 Thread M. Brenzel
Ron,

Like you, I've put the entire location in the field such as Kenmore
(Mount Olivet Cemetery), Erie County, New York, USA.  The short name is
actually longer - Mount Olivet Cemetery, Kenmore, Erie County, New York,
USA.  I use the short name in my web pages.

I do this for births (hospitals, homes), baptisms (churches), deaths
(same as births), burials/cremations and census (streets or full
addresses of homes).  I know that this is not what Legacy recommends but
I have found that this works for me.  Again - Legacy is so flexible and
provides so many options for us.  That's the best thing about it!

Mary

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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry


Michele,

How do you mean messes up Legacy's search feature? Do you mean
geolocation as I have otherwise not found a problem with searching. I
have not seen Legacy specifically say not to include the full detail in
the Location Field, but, for me, it makes no difference.

Ron Ferguson


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:48:40 -0500

 Ok, that is how I uses to do it but Legacy specifically says not to do
that
 so I removed the name of the cemetery out of that field. I used to
do...

 Grantham Cemetery, Purvis, Lamar Co, MS (I do understand how that
messes up
 Legacy's search feature because it has the locations in the wrong
spots)

 Now I just have

 Purvis, Lamar Co, MS and then I put the name of the cemetery in the
 additional info box to the right side.

 michele


 - Original Message -
 From: ronald ferguson 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:20 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry



 Michele,

 In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph
Hayes who
 was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I have the date
and
 then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, England (I could
have
 put St Helens, before Lancashire but there did not seem much
point. As I
 have mentioned I usually put the full address in the Location Field
and for
 Residence Events would put the house and Street there as well (in the
same
 field ie. no comma beteen the house number/name and the street).

 You can see the webpage output for Edward at
 http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing)

 Ron Ferguson


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500

 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery?

 - Original Message -
 From: ronald ferguson
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry



 Jennifer,

 I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my
mind
 they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which Legacy
offers
 for storing information (often at the request of the users for more
 choice).

 I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address
 options
 except for the current addresses of living people. All my full
addresses
 are
 entered into the Location fields, all print correctly, no work
arounds are
 required. By setting the Location Source to read from right to left I
can
 see who were neighbours easily or who lived in the same houses. No
 problems!

 It is my view that just because an option is there it doesn't mean
one has
 to use it. I regard all of them as offering me choices, I pick the
option
 I
 wish to use for a given purpose and stick with it. I see no need to
mix
 them.

 This is not to suggest that one shouldn't use the Address options but
to
 raise the question as to why use more than one option for the same
 purpose.

 Ron Ferguson


 _

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 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
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 For The Fergusons of 

RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

2007-11-20 Thread M. Brenzel
I think that the only way to do this is to go to View - Master -
Address Lists - Event.  For each cemetery in the list, click on the
Show List and tag everyone on the list.  Then you can use the tags to
find the people.

Mary

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Ford
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry

Okay, now that I've waded through the mounds of opinions on the method
of
recording burial location, I have decided the way I believe will work
best
for me. NOW, can anyone tell me how I can bring up a list of all the
burial
locations where I did not record the cemetery in the Burial Location
field,
but rather by clicking on the +, choosing Burial Address, and placing
the
name of the cemetery in the Name field on that screen. In other words,
how
can I get a list of all those so I can get back to them (I tried every
search I could think of). The search choices allow me to search Burial
Notes
but not Burial Address, as far as I can tell. I can get a list of
addresses,
but do not see a way to get a list (so I can print out and use it to go
to
those individuals). 

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry



Barbara,

Yes.

If you go to my website http://www.fergys.co.uk and look in the Blogs
section for No. 5 Search Events, Locations and Married Names details
on
how to do this are given there. This page looks complicated, its not
really,
but only because the main point was to derive a method which would
include
the married surnames of women (ie the name under which they would have
been
buried).

Ron Ferguson

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:08:25 -0600

 In light of the difficulty I am having with this topic (I posted the 
 original question), what Ron is saying is beginning to make sense

 Ron, if I input the data in the same way as you, then using your 
 method, if I want to see a list of everyone buried at a particular 
 cemetery, is that possible?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 ronald ferguson
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry


 Michele,

 In the Location Field. For example consider my uncle Edward Joseph 
 Hayes who was buried at St Helens Cemetery: in the Burial Fields I 
 have the date and then in St Helens Cemetery Plot 2/249, Lancashire, 
 England (I could have put St Helens, before Lancashire but there 
 did not seem much point. As I have mentioned I usually put the full 
 address in the Location Field and for Residence Events would put the 
 house and Street there as well (in the same field ie. no comma beteen
the
house number/name and the street).

 You can see the webpage output for Edward at 
 http://fergys.co.uk/genealogy/167.html (see also the sourcing)

 Ron Ferguson


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:46:43 -0500

 Ron, where then do you put the NAME of the cemetery?

 - Original Message -
 From: ronald ferguson
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:04 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Burial Location Entry



 Jennifer,

 I fail to see why the work arounds are a failing in Legacy. To my 
 mind they are an inevitable consequence of the many options which 
 Legacy offers for storing information (often at the request of the 
 users
 for more choice).

 I never use the Burial Address option, nor any of the other Address 
 options except for the current addresses of living people. All my 
 full addresses are entered into the Location fields, all print 
 correctly, no work arounds are required. By setting the Location 
 Source to read from right to left I can see who were neighbours 
 easily or who 

RE: [LegacyUG] Locations--(W)VA

2007-11-16 Thread M. Brenzel
Actually, this doesn't help.  What chronology entries are you talking
about?  Are you talking about creating your own timeline?

Mary

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SCHULTHIES
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Locations--(W)VA

Yes. In one instance, in Kentucky, in 1817, my
ancestor died in New Liberty, Gallatin County. In 1819
Owen County was created from four counties, but  New
Liberty was split in half, his portion stayed in
Gallatin. In 1820 Census, his widow was found in
Gallatin paying taxes. In 1821, Gallatin gave portions
(including rest of New Liberty area) to Owen County.
In 1821, she has left Tax lists of Gallatin and joined
Owen County. It was very confusing until I found that
the portion of New Liberty they had lived in was
renamed in the 1850s? as Wheatley. Before that, in
1830, the family moved in 3 groups over 4 years to
Indiana. They never learned (?) the place they lived,
was no longer called New Liberty. Everyone in the
family, to this day, is still calling the homestead as
in New Liberty. Imagine my confusion and frustration
when we went to visit it, 1500 miles, and were
searching twenty miles away from where the place
actually was.
I have created matching Chronology entries stating
this, so they can be added into any report on this
family which might be a person needing the tax list,
probate stuff, but if person doesn't need this, I can
easily not print paragraphs of info. (No deleting,
just unticking.) I was going to PDF it, but am having
problems unrelated with my printer at the moment.
I had planned on PDF to insert to this, but will fix
later. 
Hope this helps. I have created a grouping of each
state my family is in, to pick and choose which needs
to be there each time. The land mentioned above, was
included in about a dozen counties in Virginia, then 8
counties in Kentucky. I have not yet found all records
in the various counties, so am not sure what my count
will be.
Rich in LA CA
--- M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richard,
 
 May I ask what you mean by putting your boundary
 changes in the
 chronology tabs?
 
 Mary
 
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 I put all my boundary 'changes' in the chronology
 tabs
 so they can be added quickly (or not) to the
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RE: [LegacyUG] Locations--(W)VA

2007-11-15 Thread M. Brenzel
Richard,

May I ask what you mean by putting your boundary changes in the
chronology tabs?

Mary

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I put all my boundary 'changes' in the chronology tabs
so they can be added quickly (or not) to the specific
report. 
Rich in LA CA





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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures - Source or Event?

2007-11-14 Thread M. Brenzel
Claire,

Like you, I attach census images, as well as birth, death, marriage
records (and all others) to the source detail.  By doing that, the image
doesn't get added to the pedigree web pages that I create through
Legacy.  This is how I have chosen to attach document images.  It works
for me but I understand that it doesn't work for everyone.  Ah, the
beauty of Legacy!

Mary

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures - Source or Event?

I've always attached my document scans to source detail.  A census, for
example, is a source, and even though I create a census event to record
it,
the document image was part of the source - not the event.  From various
things mentioned on this list, I get the impression that most people
attach
the image to the event.  Is that true?  If so, do you attach to the
source
as well?  I never print my documents from Legacy, but directly from
Microsoft Office (I just happen to use Picture Manager) since I've never
managed to print a large, legible copy from Legacy.  Perhaps I'm making
an
error there as well?

I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Claire




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RE: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy with Vista

2007-11-09 Thread M. Brenzel
Joyce,
 
If you follow this link http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp,
you will be able to unsubscribe.  You have to do it from the email
address that is receiving the messages from this group.  We are unable
to help you as we are all subscribers of the list and not
administrators.
 
Mary
 
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please take me off your list!  thanks

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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing of source citations

2007-11-08 Thread M. Brenzel
Hopefully the fix will be in the next build!

Mary

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing of source citations

Mary

I was on 6.0.0.166 when this was occurring.  I have just downloaded 
6.0.0.168 and there is no change so I will presumably have to wait until
the 
next build?

Thanks to everyone else who suggested remedies.

Regards

Bob

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From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:29 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Printing of source citations


 Bob,

 Actually, this is a result of a fix for a bug I found with the
 Individual Report.  I reported this latest problem to Brian as a
 continuation of my conversations with him about the initial problem.
He
 has tested this issue with 6.0.0.167 which fixed the original problem.
 He duplicated it and sent it to the developers.

 Mary

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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printing of source citations

 Hi Bob,

 I'm not sure whether there was a problem with this with an earlier
 build of Legacy and you haven't updated, so that could be worth
 checking.

 However, it seems more likely that the relevant .usr file is
 corrupted. The options are sticking for me.

 Have you tried resetting the report options and then trying again?
 Or Close Legacy, go to the Legacy program folder and delete
 indiv.usr
 Legacy will remake the default indiv.usr file next time you try an
 Individual report.

 Cathy

 At 07:10 AM 8/11/2007, you wrote:

When printing individual or family reports, there is the option of
printing source citations - either naturally following on from the
end of the report, or on a new page.  As I understand it, these
options are controlled in the Report Options  Sources  Print
Source Citations and then either (1) as endnotes after each report
or (2) as endnotes at the end of all reports.

My problem is that Legacy keeps defaulting to option 2 which causes
the source citations to be printed out on a new page.  I require
option (1) which causes the citations to appear at the end of the
report - but I cannot get the option to stick.  Is there something
else in the set up that is causing this, or am I on the wrong track?

Regards

Bob Howes
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RE: [LegacyUG] Please Unsubscribe from this group

2007-10-22 Thread M. Brenzel
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Hello...
 
Sorry have no clue but it must be a error but please remove this email
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RE: [LegacyUG] Grandaugher without parents?

2007-10-12 Thread M. Brenzel
Just as an example of how this can be confusing -
 
My grandmother's sister went back to England from Western New York to
visit their grandparents.  She is listed in their household in Morebath,
Devon in the 1891 census on 5 Apr 1891 but she lived in the US, having
left England in 1884.  She is listed as their granddaughter but there is
no mention that she was a visitor, not a resident.  And to complicate
matters, she was the informant on the death records of both of the
grandparents who died while she was there on 25 Apr 1891 and 28 Apr
1891.  Sure makes it look like she lived there!
 
Mary
 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Grandaugher without parents?
 
Tks to all who replied. I appreciate the help. One think though, I read
an article recently re Census in England that said that the Census
information for the address was the people who NORMALLY stay their. That
could mean that a person could be listed at that address on the night of
the Census, but not actually be there. I was initially under the
impression that it was only those in the house on the night, but that
might not be so. Any thoughts or info? 
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?

2007-09-24 Thread M. Brenzel
That would be the surety tag on the source detail screen.

Mary

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Thanks for your ideas.

I wish there was a way to enter how certain we are of a particular fact,

esp. locations  dates!!

--
Pat


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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?


 Let's say I have a census or other source that says the subject was a 
 miller in 1850 and lived in Smith Co., ST.

 I enter this info as an event (Occupation) and I assume this was in
the 
 same county so I add the county part in brackets in the location field

 (especially since I know he lived on the border between Smith and
Jones 
 counties).  Or I assume that he died in a particular county though my 
 source doesn't say that he did. And I indicate in the citation that I
got 
 the date only from the source (and the brackets show that I've added
the 
 location --  I might even add a ? in front of the closing bracket).

 I don't especially like this way of handling it, in part because it
messes 
 up the Master locations list. But at least the viewer knows the info
may 
 be a bit iffy when s/he looks at the family, etc., view.  Of course I
can 
 always give the source for the location as My assumption.

 But I'm wondering how others handle this kind of thing?  I'm sure
there 
 must be a better way of handling this.

 -- 
 Pat



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 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:13 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Location List


I have been working on correcting errors in my Master Location List.
I 
keep
 finding wrong locations - with NO ONE in the Show List (in other 
 words - I
 have corrected the error).  Is there a way to have Legacy REBUILD the

 list -
 eliminating the empty (unused) locations (which are mostly errors 
 anyway)??
 Thanks
 Keith

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RE: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

2007-09-23 Thread M. Brenzel
Sorry that you feel this way but we are not humorless, spoilsport
policepersons.  While the Legacy folks are on the cruise, we are
attempting to keep things in order on this list.  There have been way
too many discussions recently that have wandered off-topic and lasted
far too long.  Lots of wasted bandwidth!
 
Mary
 
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I've never been on a mailing list, no matter what the topic, that had
quite so many humorless, spoilsport policepersons. 
On 9/23/07, aseddon.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy?
 
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From: Mike Fry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
 
hwedhlor wrote:
 Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-)

Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI 
to retire in favour of the ISO.

 Mike Fry wrote: 
 hwedhlor wrote:
 A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers.

 They would if the USA became part of the international community and 
 joined the rest of the world in adopting the ISO standards :-) 


-- 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual

2007-09-23 Thread M. Brenzel
My apologies to the list for a) not trimming my earlier reply to this
message (although I haven't seen it appear yet) and b) not changing this
to text from HTML that the message to which I was replying was
formatted.

Here was my response - 

Thad -

Sorry that you feel this way but we are not humorless, spoilsport
policepersons.  While the Legacy folks are on the cruise, we are
attempting to keep things in order on this list.  There have been way
too many discussions recently that have wandered off-topic and lasted
far too long.  Lots of wasted bandwidth!

Mary


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I've never been on a mailing list, no matter what the topic, that had
quite so many humorless, spoilsport policepersons. 
On 9/23/07, aseddon.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy?




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