RE: [MI-L] GeoTracker and Garmin GPSMap76CSx
I would suggest the end of the era of a cabled GPS device needs a bit more exposure. While personal hand-held navigation units like the Geko and other-like dedicated devices still need serial connections, Bluetooth versions do not. Either the UI device has Bluetooth built in (most smart phones, PDAs and leading PDNs)or you can buy a Bluetooth\USB dongle for $40 for your laptop that will manage up to seven other Bluetooth devices in a LAN diameter of 30-40 meters. I would suggest you then consider any number of Bluetooth GPS devices. Cost for a 3m RMS static average accuracy statistic with WAAS capable navigation, that is rechargeable, manages up to 20 GPS satellites by massively correlated synchronization, providing 8 hours duration, and 10m Bluetoothed GPS transceiver comes in around $295US ($120 street) for SiRFstarIII GPS-chipped units. For Nokia and other Symbian OS users, a smartphone navigation application like MgMaps.com can give you state-of-the-art personal navigation with on-the-fly access to internet map sources like Google Maps, Yahoo, Open Maps, and others. For $150 and an appropriate smartphone data service, you have an excellent GPS unit plus a personal navigating application able to access worldwide road/image/hybrid backgrounds. And you can also download KML tracks. PDNs and PDAs with like features would cost you as much as $700 with maps delivered on a CD map pack. And if you want to add your mobile personal location Bluetooth GPS to a lap top, just add a Bluetooth USB port - $50. Bluetooth versus USB-serial adapted connection should be, IMHO, the norm. Yes, there is a bit to learn about Bluetooth pairing configurations for security reason as well as allowing more automatic connection to other peripherals within your personal Bluetooth aura. It is getting more easy as time goes by; the apps themselves take care of the Bluetooth connection. MidNight Mapper aka neil http://redhen-iswhere.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Reid Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mapinfo-L' Subject: RE: [MI-L] GeoTracker and Garmin GPSMap76CSx Tony, I'm still using a Garmin 12cx but I'm sure the communication protocols would still be the same. Although I'm not running MI 8.5, I recently received a new laptop and was forced, kicking and screaming to leave Windows 2000 and finally accept Windows XP AND the fact that my new laptop had no serial port either, so I too had to get a USB/serial adapter. At first, I had similar problems but mine manifested by making the pointing device go berserk. I found that XP was recognizing my GPS as some kind of Microsoft Ball Point pointing device. I don't recall the exact device name and I just carried my laptop to the truck and tried to find this in Device manager and reproduce the problem but I think what fixed everything else eliminated that issue too. My fix was quite simple and that was to find a usable COM port to assign to my USB adapter/GPS, that was COM 6. You would accomplish this in the Windows Device Manager. Then, just as with a normal serial port connection, open Geotracker Options and select the appropriate COM port you set previously. Just make sure that the version of Geotracker that came on your Mapinfo install disc is version 3.2 or greater. The older versions only recognized COM ports 1-4. As far as the communications protocols, the USB connection is not dependant on those, only the communication between Geotracker and your GPS. I'm running Geotracker 3.2 and the only two protocols available are NMEA 0183 and Trimble TSIP. My Garmin 12cx has two or three NMEA protocols but no Trimble and I presume yours would be the same. You may need to choose different NMEA settings on your GPS until you hit on just the right one. One of the NMEA protocols on my Gar 12, will cause very erratic behavior with Geotracker. Hope this helps, David Reid Colbert County 9-1-1 Colbert County, Alabama -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Baylis Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:28 AM To: Mapinfo-L Subject: Re: [MI-L] GeoTracker and Garmin GPSMap76CSx Thanks to Mike and Jon for your help but unfortunately I have had no success. All things I had tried except maybe the definitive step through. I shall keep working on it and let everyone know when I work it out. Tony Cummings, Mike wrote: Check the settings/configuration of your GPS. If I remember correctly, to use a USB connection the GPS should be set to the garmin protocols not NMEA 0183. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tony Baylis Sent: Wed 10/18/2006 5:01 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] GeoTracker and Garmin GPSMap76CSx Morning all, Interesting rumour Bill...maybe it all got too hard!!! My problem is with the GeoTracker shipped with MapInfo V8.5 and
RE: [MI-L] Modelling Market Netowrks and Transportation Costs
Bill - I believe if you dive into looking up milksheds you will likely find several pathways to help sort this out. From decades past, the regulatory issues of milk basis versus dairies, collection points, competitive marketplaces, distance to markets, and more have been studied by agricultural economists and rural development specialists many, many times. There are two methods: spatial linear programming and/or network/friction surface analysis. While not an expert, I believe the most effective LP's need inputs (coefficients) from travel friction studies? Same ideas hold for grain transportation and competing modes: trucks, rail, barges... versus terminals, engineered waterways/highways/rails, and market basis. The LP stuff I will leave to you to dig into. Its history is quite deep given that the LP stuff was used to determine location of some our first interstate highways back East, in particular how they would interrelate to the milksheds surrounding New York, Boston and points between. The alternative would be the adjusting of several spatial analysis abstractions that Dr Berry has offered on his MapCalc related web pages: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html I believe friction surface as a proxy for speed and its travel complexity, start/go, uphill/downhill, combined with markets (ATMs in the example below) might be a conceptual start? Change the friction surface by changed assumptions and new flows occur. In this particular example, bank customers versus bank ATM locations, the friction surface is rather a simple one. And as they say time is money. Flows can be converted into cost/distance analysis. Net profits at end points can be guessitimated by margin analysis and simple assumptions on price elasticy? Travel-time and Customer Access http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/TTime_scenario.htm Surface flows that conduit consumers to markets also have cost or friction surfaces. Pooling are essentially flows that can not achieve velocity. Mapping Surface Flows and Pooling http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Pooling_scenario.htm Dr Joe also has several books and in particular tutorials in the MapCalc Learner that will also illustrate other tricks to establish friction surfaces and impediments to natural flows... as the crow flies is not how you really get there... but if you build a bridge over a river, natural pathways change. Hope this might offer some insights. MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:53 AM To: MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] Modelling Market Netowrks and Transportation Costs I'm interested in any good information on modelling markets and transportation costs. I think this a problem that can be solved using network functions, but I'd like to know more about the factors involved in such a problem. For example, suppose you had 100 cities that either bought or sold widgets and there were various transportation routes between the cities with some variable cost associated with moving the widgets. How would you go about designing a program that could tell you the current price of widgets in Gotham? If you added a new transprotation route betwen cities or increased the carrying capacity of one or more routes, how would that affect the price in Gotham then? Assume that there is a variable supply at the producing centers, and in some cases the can produce more than they can sell, while in other cases they can't produce enough to keep up with demand. I was thinking that it might be like water flowing into and out of a network of pipes. There are inflow and outflow points, there is pipeline capacity (that may or may not be maxed out), and I guess if you add reservoirs at various points in the network you would affect the response of the system to changes in demand. Anyway I'm just trying to get a grip on this sort of problem, so if anyone knows of examples or what parameters are involved, or even how to go about modeling such a process, I'd be interested in learning more. - Bill Thoen ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] SUM - NVIDIA video card - MapInfo hangs
This is not a proper solution IMHO. If a state of the art FAST graphics and widely used card is not compatible with a graphics intensive product like MapInfo and the solution is to change the hardware to something less? I am sorry but not a great solution. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Lisa Orr Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:37 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: [MI-L] SUM - NVIDIA video card - MapInfo hangs Thanks to Nick Hall, Ian Tidy, Robert Crossley, Greg Francisco and Markus Linder for their pointers and Bill Williams for the phone support. Original Post: Just updated monitor and video card now having trouble with MapInfo locking up. Using MapInfo V8.5 Dell 24 LCD 2407WFP NVIDIA GeForce 6800XT video card using 1920 by 1200 resolution Windows XP Pro SP2 Pentium 4 S775-650 3.4Ghz GA 8N-SLI PRO Motherboard Replies: Not sure if its much help but my colleague's laptop does the same when he selects something - it's probably the nvidia graphics card. we ended up replacing it with a non nvidia and the problem went away. HTH Nick Tom, Make sure you don't have the NVIDIA Menu turned on. Make sure this is turned off. I have a FX1300 and the NVIDIA Menu causes MapInfo to stop working. Hope This helps. Cheers Ian Hi guys, Try slowing down the hardware acceleration in the graphics settings. That used to have an issue with not redrawing. R G'day Tom, Below are some responses I gave to Bill Williams at Parliament House Library. We are now using MapInfo 8.0 and still need to force the LCD monitors to refresh once in a while. I suggest you trial another card to eliminate that part of the puzzle. We changed to Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128 with 128 Mb memory and all is well. There are a few posts on this in the archives. HTH Greg. Hello, i have the same problem using MapInfo 8.5 Dell Inspirion 9400 XP Pro SP2 P4 T2400 Dual Core NVIDIA 6800 by 1920x1200 i found a lot of event-log messages caused by nview but have no solution at all. I you find something out, please let me know. Very annoying, because always when MapInfo hangs, i have to kill and restart the epxlorer as well. Regards Markus Result: I switched off the NVIDIA menu as Ian suggested and MapInfo has not locked up since. I have however decided to replace the card as I now see strange linear artifacts across solid regions that come and go as I zoom in and out. Thanks Tom Orr Orr and Associates 4 Wildsoet Street Wongaling Beach QLD 4852 Australia Phone: +61 (0)7 40688692 Fax: +61 (0)7 40689216 Mobile: +61 (0)409 479374 www.orrbodies.com ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] MAPBASIC Vertical Mapper
This process can be created with a script in MapCalc and its trial version is available at: http://www.farmgis.com/products/software/mapcalc/default.asp And if you have further interest there are a number of tutorials on spatial analysis at: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html MidNight Mapper Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jackson, Simon (Capita Symonds) Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:37 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] MAPBASIC Vertical Mapper Is there a way I can get MapBasic to tie in with vertical mapper so that I can attempt to create a batch grid processing system. Basically. Interpolate an irregular points layer (option to select search radius for an IDW) Subtract this layer from a DTM layer Remove zeros from resulting layer Export to ASCII. Any ideas or should I not even attempt this with MB? Simon Jackson GIS Analyst Capita Symonds Wood Street, East Grinstead. RH19 1UU Tel: 01342 327161 Direct: 01342 333254 Fax: 01342 315927 Web: www.capitasymonds.co.uk NCE/ACE Major Consultant of the Year 2006 ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may be subject to legal privilege, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error or think you may have done so, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. Please notify the sender immediately and delete the original e-mail from your system. Computer viruses can be transmitted by e-mail. Recipients should check this e-mail for the presence of viruses. The Capita Group and its subsidiaries accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. *** ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Aligning titles in thematic legend - WOW!!
Hey MMoore - No direct answer on your thematic legend but how did you get the bit clip through on this list? Possibly something has changed on the list server? If so, might this list be moving into a moment where map issues can be actually illustrated rather than described? MidNight Mapper Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:24 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] Aligning titles in thematic legend Hi, I was hoping someone could help me out with this. I want to have the titles in my thematic legend to be centered rather than left side aligned as they are in the sample below. Is there a way to do this that I am just completely overlooking in MapInfo Professional v. 8.0? ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] [Spam] Google Earth Frustration
Well the knee-jerk response is that the paid for images are more current and will show the city more closely present the as it is rather than as it was. It depends on the value of timeliness versus currency of image base. This Google Earth thing and the pending like solution that ESRI is about to drop on all of us is a major disruption to desktop GIS as we have generally known it. What you might try as an alternative is to demonstrate your vector and rasterized maps on GE? It is actually quite neat and extend to GE the real value, that of your analysis? FWIW MidNight Mapper Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan José Del Toro Madrueño Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:00 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MI-L] [Spam] Google Earth Frustration Hello List; I dont know if this happened worldwide or just here in Mexico but, as some of you may already have noticed, Google Earth has just added high resolution imagery to new areas; the reason of this post is actually is a frustration feeling and Ill explain this; as I was preparing a document where I was trying to sell high resolution Imagery to a Municipality here in Mexico I found out that Google Earth now has it in Quickbird Imagery; I know that in GE (free version) you cant do ANY analysis to these images and that if they bought from me the actual imagery they would have tons of benefits; but try explaining that to a Municipal president who has a Free software that is giving him the same images I was trying to sell the for Free; almost impossible. Hope this made sense. Cheers Mr. Frustrated in Mexico Juan José Del Toro Madrueño[EMAIL PROTECTED]Guadalajara, Jalisco MÉXICO ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Google Earth Frustration
Bill - I am surprised in your depreciation of eye candy. What is going on via Google Earth, IMHO, is simply things are changing and changing very fast for desktop GIS. While GE is certainly the most articulate on a B/C level at the current moment of eye candy, you can not ignore the participation of National Geographic, Sketch-up, and the spatialization of the WEB via geoRSS and other like geoTAGS. These things are increasingly accessible and most importantly in near real-time everywhere! Its weird but for some reason I remain open that the emerging .NET-ization of MapInfo Pro may actually find a way to leverage it's cartography and spatial abstraction analysis in a hoped for easy to use way - like posted to overlay GE? Therefore my banging on the GE2MIP threads. Aw heck, if wishes were fishes Neil Aka MidNight Mapper -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:55 AM To: Juan José Del Toro Madrueño Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: Re: [MI-L] Google Earth Frustration On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 06:59:38PM -0500, Juan José Del Toro Madrueño wrote: I don't know if this happened worldwide or just here in Mexico but, as some of you may already have noticed, Google Earth has just added high resolution imagery to new areas; the reason of this post is actually is a frustration feeling and I'll explain this; as I was preparing a document where I was trying to sell high resolution Imagery to a Municipality here in Mexico I found out that Google Earth now has it in Quickbird Imagery; I know that in GE (free version) you can't do ANY analysis to these images and that if they bought from me the actual imagery they would have tons of benefits; but try explaining that to a Municipal president who has a Free software that is giving him the same images I was trying to sell the for Free; almost impossible. I reckon you're going to have to re-evaluate what you sell. If your potential client only wants the eye candy of a whizzy image, then Google has just eaten your lunch. (and proabably a few dinners too.) You can't beat free. Now you're going to find out what tons of benefits is worth as you try to market the value of image analysis. Raw GIS data are a commodity, and the price has been dropping ever since the late Scott Elliot of Wessex cut the price of Census-derived data, royally pissing off both MapInfo and ESRI. No longer able to squeeze their golden goose selling easy-to-acquire data to an ignorant public, this eventually forced these GIS companies to develop MUCH better data sources and data analysis tools leaving the low hanging fruit to the hobbyist mappers and GIS start-ups. Forget data. The bigjobs have got that market pretty much rolled up. Concentrate instead on what you can do to turn data into information. That's where the golden goose is now. And unfortunately, some poeple who would have paid for it once, only want to look at the pictures, and now Google has got 'em. - Bill Thoen ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Google Earth Frustration
Gosh in the ten minutes since this started guess what popped up? Analysis in GE? http://paginas.terra.com.br/informatica/sgrillo/googleearth/index.htm#GEBarsGraph Changes they are a comin... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Havermale Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:28 PM To: Bill Thoen; Juan José Del Toro Madrueño Cc: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MI-L] Google Earth Frustration Bill - I am surprised in your depreciation of eye candy. What is going on via Google Earth, IMHO, is simply things are changing and changing very fast for desktop GIS. While GE is certainly the most articulate on a B/C level at the current moment of eye candy, you can not ignore the participation of National Geographic, Sketch-up, and the spatialization of the WEB via geoRSS and other like geoTAGS. These things are increasingly accessible and most importantly in near real-time everywhere! Its weird but for some reason I remain open that the emerging .NET-ization of MapInfo Pro may actually find a way to leverage it's cartography and spatial abstraction analysis in a hoped for easy to use way - like posted to overlay GE? Therefore my banging on the GE2MIP threads. Aw heck, if wishes were fishes Neil Aka MidNight Mapper -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:55 AM To: Juan José Del Toro Madrueño Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: Re: [MI-L] Google Earth Frustration On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 06:59:38PM -0500, Juan José Del Toro Madrueño wrote: I don't know if this happened worldwide or just here in Mexico but, as some of you may already have noticed, Google Earth has just added high resolution imagery to new areas; the reason of this post is actually is a frustration feeling and I'll explain this; as I was preparing a document where I was trying to sell high resolution Imagery to a Municipality here in Mexico I found out that Google Earth now has it in Quickbird Imagery; I know that in GE (free version) you can't do ANY analysis to these images and that if they bought from me the actual imagery they would have tons of benefits; but try explaining that to a Municipal president who has a Free software that is giving him the same images I was trying to sell the for Free; almost impossible. I reckon you're going to have to re-evaluate what you sell. If your potential client only wants the eye candy of a whizzy image, then Google has just eaten your lunch. (and proabably a few dinners too.) You can't beat free. Now you're going to find out what tons of benefits is worth as you try to market the value of image analysis. Raw GIS data are a commodity, and the price has been dropping ever since the late Scott Elliot of Wessex cut the price of Census-derived data, royally pissing off both MapInfo and ESRI. No longer able to squeeze their golden goose selling easy-to-acquire data to an ignorant public, this eventually forced these GIS companies to develop MUCH better data sources and data analysis tools leaving the low hanging fruit to the hobbyist mappers and GIS start-ups. Forget data. The bigjobs have got that market pretty much rolled up. Concentrate instead on what you can do to turn data into information. That's where the golden goose is now. And unfortunately, some poeple who would have paid for it once, only want to look at the pictures, and now Google has got 'em. - Bill Thoen ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] HotSpot/Grid Map
Title: HotSpot/Grid Map A MIP 8.5 solution? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ali, Naz @ Vancouver Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:17 AM To: 'mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com' Subject: [MI-L] HotSpot/Grid Map Hi Group: I am quite new with Vertical Mapper and am doing a hotspot map. I am using 'Triangulation with Smoothing' in Interpolation Method to create a Population Density Map. The result I get seem to be correct except that when I add it to my MapInfo layers, it distorts my map. Can anyone please suggest where in my steps could cause this? Thanks Naz Ali | GIS Marketing Services CB Richard Ellis Limited West Georgia Street, Suite 600 | Vancouver, BC V6E 4M3 T 604 662 5173 | F 604 684 9368 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] MapInfo Pro 8.+ and Google Earth 4.0 - GElinktool.exe
I was wondering if anyone in the MapInfo community was doing anything interesting or fun with the MapInfo Pro link tool for Google Earth? As far as I can tell only 8.0 and 8.5 MIP versions will handle the MapInfo GElinktool noted below? Bill T mentioned that there might be a MB shareware that does the same on earlier versions? I have tried the available version 8.0 GElink.mbx download it does work with the newest version of GE just released this week; it works but it doesnt seem as smooth in this newest release? What may also be of interest is that there is now a Mac and Linux version of GE so it would seem that GE is a neat way to share MIP work product with those users as well? http://extranet.mapinfo.com/smartupdate/prolatestversion2.cfm?version=8.0 MidNight Aka neil ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Interactive Maps on the Web
If you are really curious about Web mapping you should attend the next week Where 2.0 in San Jose. I attended last year and the energy exploding out of GMU (geo mash up) versus legacy GIS for the masses was astounding. Poor Jack was simply out of place. This year it looks like it again will be a battle between Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and ESRI to name a few of the biggies. Geo-mash-ups is what the next generation of GIS had better pay attention to. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/where2006/ FYI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trey Pattillo Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:14 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: Re: [MI-L] Interactive Maps on the Web And Discovery costs how much? You might want to have a look here http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/08/10/ka-map.html AJAX is what Google and Yahoo are using it is at no costs or much less that others. On Wednesday 07 June 2006 11:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lacey, Discovery will work and you can host the map library right from your own web site server. You can find out more about it here including a free trial so you can try it out. http://extranet.mapinfo.com/products/Overview.cfm?productid=1672 Greg Greg Donahue Senior Marketing Manager One Global View |Troy, NY 12180 Phone 518.285.6536 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chan, Wai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/07/2006 11:39 AM To mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com cc Subject [MI-L] Interactive Maps on the Web Dear Listers, I use MI Pro 8.0 to create quite a number of thematic maps. I would like to know, if I want the thematic maps be accessed interactively from the library?s web site (basic functions like viewers can turn layers on and off, zoom in and zoom out), what do I need (in terms of software, hardware and knowledge) to make this happens? I just want to check the feasibility. I checked the MI Discovery but it seems to me that the maps have to be accessed from a MapInfo site, not your own web page, right? Any help would be much appreciated (I am only a MI Pro user. Don?t know much about web publishing or application development though). Thanks very much in advance. Lacey Wai Sze (Lacey) Chan Information and Data Analysis Librarian New Americans Program Queens Library 89-11 Merrick Blvd. Jamaica, NY 11432 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TEL: 718-990-8656 FAX: 718-297-3404 ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Trey Pattillo Failure is not an option It comes standard with all Microsoft products. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Can I compare MapInfo with a JPEG or other file?
Try this it might work. If I understand the problem I think this can be achieved via GE. Use Google Earth Pro - it might also work with the freeware GE? First import either registered image into MapInfo Pro. Adjust both to the same projection - Should be a breeze with new features in MIP 8.5? Next, export either image using the MIP Google Earth raster export. In GE place which ever image represents the changed image over the reference image. Adjust via GE the transparency of the changed image. Use any number of the emerging free vector sketching tools (SketchUp as one suggestion) to outline the differences as SHP files. Pay attention to the SHP projection - it's a rather stupid format... Import these same files back into MIP. Seems like this should work? Also have you noticed that Google Maps are pretty darned complete for Europe and Australia as well as US. Just a matter of time till they show up on GE. Something good is soon to happen MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chai Eric Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:52 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] Can I compare MapInfo with a JPEG or other file? Hi all, I'm Eric, an industrial trainee from a telecommunication company. I want to ask if I can like compare the MapInfo with a another JPEG map or some other map in different formats? What do I mean by compare is like putting a transparent layer of the other file on top of the MapInfo map (vice versa) so it shows the information from the 2 maps. I really hope you all can reply me as soon as possible because its a big project for me. Thank You! Thank You all again~! -Eric _ Block pop-up ads with MSN Toolbar. http://toolbar.msn.com.my/ ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] new app Project Grande?
Jaques - My understanding based on, gosh almost two years now of running rumor-ology, is that MapInfo is going to great lengths to insure that those with MapBasic investments are reassured that their MB legacies will remain compatible with the emergence of a MapInfo desktop offering (Professional ?) based on .NET technology, i.e. MapXtream 6.+? I get the feeling that your MB-futures insight at the moment on this unqualified defacto promise is suggestive of Yes, we have no bananas? I understand that at the recent Users Conference just last week there were several sessions dealing with this issue. Has something significant changed? So the mystery at this moment, I guess, still remains. I offer some insights passed to this list in Sept 2004 by Eric Blasenheim with MapInfo.. I asked a question about how .COM can be used by .NET generally. Possibly others can share their insights of this grand project? Neil My question on MapInfo-l in September 2004 .. From our software engineers I have been told that there may be some sort of intermediate step that essentially puts a .NET-wrapper around WIN32 code permitting such legacy code to be used in the NET environments? Is this a safe and reliable first move for legacy code or is this more like buying re-treaded tires? They look great on the rack, have a low cost, but tend to fly apart under stress and fast speeds. MidNight Mapper Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:26 PM To: Neil Havermale Cc: SCISOFT; 'MapInfo-L' Subject: RE: MI-L MapBasic vs VisualStudio .NET ... MapXtreme 2004 Neil .NET wrappers are totally acceptable. In fact, .NET does some of them for you. There are three ways of interoperating with native code. They use the term native rather than win32 because you can also call 64 bit code and potentially any other code (linux) on the platform you are running. There are performance issues in each of these mechanisms and Microsoft is changing them as we speak. The simplest is called PInvoke. It allows .NET code to call an entry point in a .DLL. This is essentially what VB programmers have been doing for years and conceptually similar to what we do in MapBasic calling a DLL. Using a .NET concept called attributes, you can control a few things better such as calling conventions and how data is converted or marshalled from .NET to the native DLL. The .NET framework uses this facility itself to call Windows APIs. The calling is one way (.NET to DLL) COM objects can be called from .NET by the building of wrappers. The RCWs (Runtime Callable Wrappers) are built automatically by Visual Studio when you tell it that you want to use a COM object. The dialog in Visual Studio where you select the objects that you want to reference has a TAB for .NET assemblies as well as COM objects. The wrapper handles the calling of the COM objects and marshalling of data. MapInfo distributed a wrapper like this for those who wanted to get started on .NET work over year ago. The wrapper handled the older MapX/MapXtreme. Connected with that technology is the ability to call a .NET Code from COM. These wrappers are called CCW (COM Callable Wrappers). Check out MSDN for some good papers or http://www.codeproject.com/dotnet/COM_DOTNET_INTEROP.asp. The third technology is the C++ compiler. The .NET version C++ compiler supports what is called Unmanaged (native) and managed (MSIL) code generation. You can build totally MSIL code in C++ if you wish. The interoperability to native code is built into the compiler with a few rules that you have to follow. It is so easy to do that they called the technology IJW (It just works!). Well, we found a few problems with that technology. However, it is improving and some of the things they are doing in the next version are pretty amazing if they work. We are looking at that now. Note from my earlier memo that just because code is MSIL and compiled to native code by the run time (Just in time) compiler, does not mean that the code is safe. MapInfo uses this C++ technology to interoperate between it's public interface code (MSIL) and the native code. Hope this helps. Eric Blasenheim Software Architect MapInfo Corporation From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques Paris Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:47 PM To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] new app It may seem strange that in the present context where the future of MapBasic applications is rather threatened by all the rumours of the abandonment of MapInfo.COM to the profit of a NET version incompatible with MB I am still writing MB applications. You have to imagine that I foresee despite all those rumours there will always be a niche for the old users, that there are still pressing need for new tools, that if I do not consider at my age learning a new language, practicing an old one has many mental benefits
RE: [MI-L] Hypothetical question regarding MapInfo on Web
A very interesting question and one that is timely. In a few days MapInfo will host its annual User/Developers Conference in Phoenix. If you follow the issues of MapInfo technology evolution you may already be aware that MapXtream is the critical technology core for all future MapInfo technology and desktop products via its .NET design. We do not have this yet in Pro 8.0 other than some serious progression in design coordination in the workspace between MapXtream and Pro designs. There is other stuff as well but the workspace seems to me the critical step of progression - getting the common man ready for a rather large shift IMHO. The re-engining of MapInfo Pro with MapXtream.NET is rumored to be included in Pro 8.5. This technology shift to .NET from .COM and MapBasic, and that is what it is, will be disruptive. Those that developed on MapX and MapXtream Windows (legacy and preambles to MapXtream.NET 5.0) will not fare as neatly tough. Importantly MapInfo has made some limited promises that they will do their very best to not only release the developer and the Pro platform from the limitations of old design Microsoft methods for new .NET opportunity but they intend to allow an elegant extension of the MapBasic legacy code sets into the new design - backward compatibility. This is rather neat and if they pull this off, well they will have avoided a huge depreciation of partner and client MapBasic investments. So I guess the answer is it looks like MapInfo Pro's future connection to the internet is just around the corner? Any takers on extending insight and rumorology of the likely Pro future? Oh and buy the way, I have had some really great results of merging my map-analysis and workspaces on to Google Earth. MidNight Mapper aka neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Crane Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:38 PM To: MAPINFO-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] Hypothetical question regarding MapInfo on Web Hi all, This is a hypothetical question I've just thought of. Removing licensing and copyright issues from the equation. Is is possible and practical to install MapInfo on a web server and allow a set number of restricted users to access the application (a MapBasic app to be more specific)? I understand MapInfo isn't a particularly appropriate application for web-based access but if you wanted several users to access and run a mapbasic utility (with all the bells and whistles) via the web-is it doable? Regards Ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] Oracle XE and MapInfo
Any knee-jerk reactions to Oracles FREE 10g XE ? Will this Oracle entry DB have any effect on MapInfo use? Is this an easy, too hard, or who cares type of solution? FYI http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/02/28/75938_HNoraclexelate_1.html?source=NLC-TB2006-02-28 Oracle made its low-end, free-of-charge Oracle Database 10g Express Edition database, also known as XE, generally available Tuesday. When the company initially released the beta version of the software in October of last year, Oracle expected to debut the first full release of XE by year-end. XE is built on the same code as the company's enterprise-level Oracle Database 10g Release 2. Oracle expects that users who adopt the free edition of XE will later want to upgrade to paid versions of the 10g database. The vendor is also hoping that the XE database will appeal to both developers and the academic community. There's a plethora of low-end free databases in today's market, with Oracle's XE and Microsoft's SQL Server 2005 Express being joined last month by DB2 Universal Database Express-C. All three vendors are also facing challenges from the open-source community led by database company MySQL. The XE database can be downloaded from Oracle Technology Network at http://www.oracle.com/technology/xe. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Oracle XE and MapInfo
The location features in Oracle Database 10g provide a platform that supports a wide range of applicationsfrom automated mapping/facilities management and geographic information systems (GIS), to wireless location services and location-enabled e-business. The Oracle Database 10g, Oracle Application Server 10g, and Oracle E-Business Suite include and make use of location features to deliver unique business advantages to users. Through Oracle Spatial and Oracle Locator, geographic and location data are managed in a native type within Oracle Database 10g. Oracle Locator is a feature of Oracle Database 10g Standard and Enterprise Editions that provides core location functionality needed by most customer applications to support a variety of location-based services (LBS) and 3rd party GIS solutions. Oracle Spatial is an option for Oracle Enterprise Edition that provides advanced spatial features to support high-end GIS and LBS solutions. Oracle MapViewer is an Oracle Application Server Java component and JDeveloper extension used for map rendering and viewing geospatial data managed by Oracle Spatial or Locator. Oracle Spatial and Oracle Locator have been adopted as the preferred location platform by leading GIS and LBS vendors. Oracle Spatial and Oracle Locator have also been deployed by telecommunications, utilities, and government organizations worldwide. Oracle Spatial and Oracle Locator comply with the OGC Simple Features for SQL Specification, Types and Functions Alternative. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert Crossley Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: Re: [MI-L] Oracle XE and MapInfo David, Just when I have got my head around SQL server This is potentially the biggest news for MapInfo for a long time as what it offers is a corporate database that can be used for smallish applications (viz. for clients who don't want to pay for Oracle as well as the GIS).. and to my knowledge Arc's products require an SDE licence to use the Oracle DB. For me it means that I can offer a product based on Oracle rather than Access for those who don't really want to buy a spatial DB at this time. For the organisations who want to stay with SQL Server (and that is quite a few), I can offer a similar architectured product based on Spatialware. Bit of a learning curve, but will be worth it. r On 01/03/06, David Jerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert, I think you'll find that Locator did get included in XE.I've just been having a dig around this morning and discovered: http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=1218544#1218544 -- Oracle Database 10g R2 (10.2.0.1 ) Express Edition (Locator) Available!! Posted: Feb 28, 2006 5:59 AM and locator is included. I want to thank all the partners, developers and users who supported our efforts to include Locator in XE. thanks Steve -- Also: http://www.oracle.com/pls/xe102/portal.all_books Note the link to the 2 Day Plus Locator Developer Guide All looks good to me!I'm looking forward to having a play... Cheers, David Quoting Robert Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Neil, I was excited by the release last october, but when I enquired, the spatial bits were not part of the release.I would love to move to Oracle XE for my MapInfo applications and get rid of Access for the clients who won't go to SQL Server and Spatialware, but was told that I couldn't do it.I don't need the spatial cartridge, just the ability to store the data in the database (Locator). Any further updates regarding this new release? r On 01/03/06, Neil Havermale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any knee-jerk reactions to Oracle's FREE 10g XE ?Will this Oracle entry DB have any effect on MapInfo use?Is this an easy, too hard, or who cares type of solution? FYI http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/02/28/75938_HNoraclexelate_1.html?source=NLC-TB2006-02-28 Oracle made its low-end, free-of-charge *Oracle* Database 10g Express Edition database, also known as XE, generally available Tuesday. When the company initially released the beta version of the software in October of last year, Oracle expected to debut the first full release of XE by year-end. XE is built on the same code as the company's enterprise-level Oracle Database 10g Release 2. Oracle expects that users who adopt the free edition of XE will later want to upgrade to paid versions of the 10g database. The vendor is also hoping that the XE database will appeal to both developers and the academic community. There's a plethora of low-end free databases in today's market, with Oracle's XE and *Microsoft's* SQL Server 2005 Express being joined last month by DB2 Universal Database
RE: [MI-L] MapInfo and Web Mapping and spatial databases
I would suggest you take a look at Exponare on the presumption that you can amend its design (you'll need a programmer) to what you outline below. I really like Exponare based on what I know and think it will have an important place in the MapInfo technology set once their .NET Pro release is exposed. Exponare is built on MapXtream 2004 and therefore IMHO will likely be compatible to the .NET version of MapInfo Pro when it finally emerges? You'll need to study Exponare a bit and the best place within Troy would be through the local government group. I believe it has all the features you'll need. Expanding PA services on to the internet is not inexpensive but certainly provides a base for the more like future - that the internet is the computer. MidNight Mapper Ak neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wilson Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:11 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] MapInfo and Web Mapping and spatial databases Hi All, I need some advice and suggestions from all you GIS guru's out there on how to go about creating an internet mapping application using data created by MapInfo and stored in tab files. The current situation is that we have a large amount of various geographical data for 100's of customers stored locally on a server (actually field maps of pH, yield maps, soil texture, crop biomass maps, etc). The data is in individual TAB files (and workspaces and pdf's of layouts) and each customers data is arranged in a file/directory structure that allows us to easily find the data required. What I want to do is to allow customers access to their data through a web browser so they can view / print and even modify the data attributes of their maps from their office. I also want customers to be able to upload files from their PC, perform some processing on those files and display and email the finished map. It also seems to me that in the long run we may be better to move to a spatial database in order to keep all the information in one place to ensure data integrity and consistency - rather than in 1000's of tab files. If we are considering changing the system to allow web mapping it might be a good time to look into spatial databases as well. So my questions are: 1. Could you share your web mapping experiences with me please? - what worked, what didn't work, software used - anything really. 2. Would you recommend a move to a spatial database? - what are the pro's and con's of a spatial database v multiple tab files in a directory structure? As you can probably tell I'm really confused about the various options we have now and I'm trying to understand as much as possible about web mapping / spatial databases as once we commit to a system it's going to be difficult to change without a lot of cost and confusion. I have looked at mapserver -(the free web mapping software discussed on this list before) and also mapextreme / spatialware but really don't understand the possibilities and pros/cons of each suite of products. I really appreciate any / all comments and suggestions - it's great to have an impartial expert like MI-L to ask before jumping into a big decision like this... Jim - Jim Wilson, Hilton of Fern, By Brechin, Angus, Scotland. DD9 6SB Phone +44 (0)1356 650307 Fax +44 (0)1356 650445 Mobile +44 (0)7702 741516 email[EMAIL PROTECTED] web www.soilessentials.com - ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] Poll: CAD-Computer Aided Dispatch and Mapinfo for 9-1-1Centers (PSAPS)
As you exploit the e911 opportunity, there is an interesting standard you might be interested in. It is known as CAP or Common Alerting Protocol and it ties into 911. It essentially provides conceptual and practical standards for sharing via the net, sms, and other emerging e-methods to centrally notify and broadcast alerts for earthquakes, tsunamis, and other emergency events like tornadoes and weather events. FYI MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Reid Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:29 PM To: 'Richard Greenwood' Cc: 'MapInfo-L' Subject: RE: [MI-L] Poll: CAD-Computer Aided Dispatch and Mapinfo for 9-1-1Centers (PSAPS) Thanks for the feedback Rich, but am looking for just that, something that is better than what we have while still working with Mapinfo. We demoed one CAD that only accepted AV data and I just don't want the hastle of worring about having to convert everything, not only that, but the AV files consume so much more disk space. When I converted our 20+ layers from Mapinfo into Arcview, I wound up with far more files, (ie Whereas MI might only have 5 files for a table, when converted I came up with 7). I really don't care WHY there is or isn't more, I simply want the same integration I have now. I should have stated our current CAD works ok but built on MapX 3.0 technology which I understand is not even supported anymore by Mapinfo. Further I should have specified our current CAD was designed, built circa 1992 and installed when we went online in 1994 and has not changed even though we still pay an annual maintainence on it to keep it upgraded. But that's a whole other story. Thanks for your input, Dave -Original Message- From: Richard Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:35 PM To: David Reid Cc: MapInfo-L Subject: Re: [MI-L] Poll: CAD-Computer Aided Dispatch and Mapinfo for 9-1-1 Centers (PSAPS) On 2/16/06, David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings List, First off, this is not a marketing survey, it is my attempt to learn what is out there and in use, that might better work for my agency. For those on the list who work in the 9-1-1 PSAP arena, I would like to hear from those of you who use Mapinfo to manage your GIS layers for your Computer Aided Dispatch which includes map display (9-1-1 CAD). I know there's quite a few questions here, but I would certainly appreciate your time if you can reply. This by no way scientific, just some of the initial questions that come to mind. I'd probably have more if I thought about it much longer :) This will probably sound like marketing... I wrote a MapInfo MBX a few years ago that is used by 3 rural Wyoming counties for E911 dispatch. Obviously it supports native MapInfo data, labeling, styling, etc. But the thing that is unique is that it is point based, as opposed to line based. Most E911 software interpolates a point along a line segment. This works reasonably well in urbanazied areas, but not so well in rural areas. Point based addressing requires a more detailed data layer than line interpolation, but also provides better results. Examples of where point-based is better would include situations where addresses are not sequential, (you have a house number that doesn't fit into a linear range) or you have a house a long distance from the road on which it addressed (a long driveway). I'd look for E911 software that fits your community and your data model. Whether it supports MapInfo or ESRI should be seccondary. It is very easy to write a script to convert a MapInfo line layer to a ESRI line layer, but it is impossible to convert a line layer to a point layer, or a point layer to a line layer. Rich -- Richard Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.greenwoodmap.com ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] GElink KML export
H... you might have to invest in the $25 annual license? MidNight Mapper From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pandya, Shvetketu Sent: Thu 1/19/2006 1:41 PM To: 'MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com' Subject: [MI-L] GElink KML export I am trying to export selected object in map window (object selected is only one for testing) from MIP 8.0 in KML using GE link utility, but I am not able to see any export and MIP program is not responding/hangs up. I am not having any problem if I export map window as raster image (option 1) and I can see this jpg in Google earth. I am using free version of Google earth. I will appreciate any help on this. Regards, Shvet. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] concurrent licensing for MIPro
Alistair - We have explored this issue as well for a government agency we have done extensive work for. I do not think that the current MI Pro licensing design, 8.0 and older, will achieve what you are after. More likely this will be provided for in the .NET versioning? As a developer, I can signal you that MapInfo externalizes this concurrent user on us. We turned to Macrovision's solution. A bit pricy at $16,000 but where you have so many users that could check-out a license for a day or more, it does provide a solution... which may cheaper than updating all your copies? You can administer other licensed products via the Macrovison solution as well. http://www.macrovision.com/ As for the runtime sensitivity, MapInfo justifiably does not like to see a Runtime interface that essentially exposing a MI Pro for it's shadow price. If you are interested in a platform that could suggest where MapInfo might be going in its still un-seen .NET solution, take a look at Exponare. Exponare is built on MapXtream (in rumor the logical engine for future MIP) and IMHO has some really neat enterprise designs within it. Most of the Exponare code work is done in MapInfo's Brisbane offices FYI. I would be interested in what you find out as well. Catch you in the New Year! neil Verrierdale, QLD 0419741644 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alistair Hart Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:48 PM To: MapInfo-L Subject: [MI-L] concurrent licensing for MIPro Hi Folks, Has anyone ever heard of a concurrent licensing deal being struck between an organisation and MI before?? As an interim step between adhoc use of MapInfo and a full blown enterprise solution, I'd like to negotiate with MI a concurrent license where we may install MI locally on more machines than we have licenses for, but manage use in such a way that we won't be using anymore than x licenses at any one time. The rationale is that we are a growing user of spatial information, with a core skill group in MapInfo and increasing demand from novice users. Until we reach a point where we can a) justify a sole GIS resource to assist novice users or b) justify an enterprise-wide GIS solution, I'd like to be able to get more use out of our (not very) current 35 licenses (we would rarely have more than 3 users at a time, in a geographically distributed organisation of nearly 70,000 people). If anyone has such an example of concurrent licensing (is this the right phrase??), I'd be very pleased to hear about it... Cheers!! Alistair * This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is strictly prohibited. The information contained in this email, including any attachment sent with it, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this email in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone collect on Australia +61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should also delete this email, and any copies, from your computer system network and destroy any hard copies produced. If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy, distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form of disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this email is also prohibited. Although Queensland Health takes all reasonable steps to ensure this email does not contain malicious software, Queensland Health does not accept responsibility for the consequences if any person's computer inadvertently suffers any disruption to services, loss of information, harm or is infected with a virus, other malicious computer programme or code that may occur as a consequence of receiving this email. Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the views of the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government. ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] SHP Conversion Missing PRJ File
ESRI's .prj should not be labeled as a projection file... I have been told its rather a project file and carries other metadata associated with the .shp file set. Just what others goodies might be found there remains a mystery to me. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Horsbøll Møller Sent: Tue 20/12/2005 1:05 PM To: Frank Aaron (TX/EUS); mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] SHP Conversion Missing PRJ File Frank, If the projection file is missing, you can simply specify the projection when opening the shape file thru File Open in MapInfo. But you do of course need to know the projection/coordsys to do this. Peter Horsbøll Møller GIS Developer, MTM Geographical Information IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 DK-5260 Odense S. Denmark Tel +45 6311 4900 Direct +45 6311 4908 Mob +45 5156 1045 Fax +45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk/gis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Aaron (TX/EUS) Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:19 PM To: 'mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com' Subject: [MI-L] SHP Conversion Missing PRJ File Hi All, I have downloaded a ArcGIS SHP file and noticed that it did not come with the required PRJ file - searched the site and could not find any reference to the projection or datum. I am not very knowledgeable about ArcGIS (and for that matter do not have access to a copy of the Program) but had read through the posting that the shapefiles do not contain any coordinate system or datum information. With that in mind - does anyone know how one should create the proper Projection File for the SHP File? BR, Frank Aaron, MSc. Physics, MSEE Staff Wireless Systems Engineer, RF Engineering Services Ericsson USA Global Services North America Tel: (972) 583-0112 Fax: (972) 583-2273 Mobile: (972) 679-9291 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file
There may be very interesting opportunity to use the recent MapInfo to Google exporter for like transfers between systems.. Export selected objects or the active window as a KLV or KLM(?). These formats are XML-like and should be of universal appeal as data formats and its metadata are increasingly shifted towards Google Earth and Virtual Earth designs. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of James M. Kelly Sent: Mon 19/12/2005 11:54 PM To: John Elliot Cc: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: RE: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file John I world file is simply a text file that contains some information about the coordinate values of the image, but no coordinate system information. I have not used ArcPad, but I would imagine that the world files are standard old ESRI format. There is a free mbx on the directions website that is called TABtoTFW or something like that, which can be used to create a TFW (for tiff files) from TAB files. I have found some problems using this when the raster is screen registered in MapInfo, so I would use it with caution. Cheers James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Elliot Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 3:42 PM To: MapInfo Subject: [MI-L] MI raster to Shape file I am running MapInfo 5.5 and have installed ArcPad 6.0.3 on a handheld. Is it possible to transfer a raster map from MapInfo to ArcPad. I understand that ArcPad needs both a World File and a Projection File (datum file) in order to be able to recognise raster images. The Projection Files come with ArcPad but it seems World Files have to be created with one of the other Arc software packages. When I try to translate a raster map to a Shape file using Universal Translator it fails to translate and gives a message that it could not find any layers. Is there a utility, preferably at mate's rates, that would do this job? John Elliot Bathurst, NSW 2795, AUSTRALIA ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/tt ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] NavTeq Data
We are considering bidding on a NavTeq related project and wanted to get a quick straw-poll of any technical experiences or otherwise regarding their data products - knee-jerk or measured response will be gratefully received. We are most interested in any direct experiences with NavTeq integration rather than indirect use as found on many Web sites but if there are relevant issues with indirect use, that is of interest as well. And insight on their licensing models might also of general interest as well. MidNight Mapper aka neil ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] -Test - delete
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[MI-L] RE: Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx followup queries
From: Data Directions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:38 PM To: Neil Havermale Subject: Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx followup queries Neil, I've being trying the new GELink.mbx which I downloaded from the MapInfo web site. Quite good. I have a couple of queries that you may be able to help with: 1) You mention that in an hour or so, one could understand GE essentials. Is there a link to a detailed user manual I could download? My one-hour comment was for the GELink export to GE not GE in general. There is a PDF that can be downloaded from the MIP update site re MapInfos GELink.MBX. 2) Rather than have the default USA/ North America appear at startup, can I setup GE to display Australia at startup? See the Google developer API http://code.google.com/api.html. I personally can not answer but I have seen a demo where opening default centered on Europe. I believe if you look in one of the several google earth/maps discussion groups your might someone you could ask or find the shared solution. http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php/cat/0 3) Can one change the yellow pushpin symbol (that represents points exported from MapInfo via GELink.mbx) in GE to a smaller symbol size and maybe change its colour and shape? II have invested in GE Pro its $400/yr. For me to edit and change the default point icon for type and size by clicking on the object or object sets file icon. You will then find a dialog that could have been take directly form MIP as far as logical use. Such adjusted KLMs can be loaded into Google Earth, the free version see some of the neat data sets from the Keyhole BB site. Down load the GE PRO and work with it for 7 days no cost. Thank you, Bill ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[MI-L] Google Earth Stuffings .... read at leisure
Bill - What are the various differences between the several Google Earth versions? That is hard to say. Why? The feature set is changing and improving at least once a month. In fact, I just checked, and there is an available download... I don't know exactly what we will be doing with GELink.MBX... yet! Stay tuned. This bus is leaving... better get a ticket! Google Earth Free - WYSIWYG Google Earth Plus $20/yr - Neat GPS add-ons and a Licensed relationship? Google Earth Pro $400/yr - Best read for yourself http://earth.google.com/products.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:40 AM To: Map Info List Subject: Re: [MI-L] RE: Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx followup queries Neil Havermale wrote: *From:* Data Directions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** 1) You mention that in an hour or so, one could understand GE essentials. Is there a link to a detailed user manual I could download? My one-hour comment was for the GELink export to GE not GE in general. There is a PDF that can be downloaded from the MIP update site re MapInfo's GELink.MBX. The KML format is just an XML file -- you could create it with a text editor. The magic is in the tags and how you automate the file's construction. Documentation for the KML format is at http://www.keyhole.com/kml/kml_doc.html. 3) Can one change the yellow pushpin symbol (that represents points exported from MapInfo via GELink.mbx) in GE to a smaller symbol size and maybe change its colour and shape? II have invested in GE Pro - its $400/yr. For me to edit and change the default point icon for type and size by clicking on the object or object set's file icon. You will then find a dialog that could have been take directly form MIP as far as logical use. Such adjusted KLMs can be loaded into Google Earth, the free version - see some of the neat data sets from the Keyhole BB site. Down load the GE PRO and work with it for 7 days no cost. What does the $400 version give you that you can't get in the free version? Or is the difference simply a legal one if you're developing a commercial application? - Bill Thoen ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: Ang. RE: [MI-L] arc globe - Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx
Yes, you need a bit of hand adjustment on the google side but the tools and their dialogs are straight forward interestingly quite like MIP IMHO. I say in an hour or less you can understand its essentials and be exporting effectively to Earth Google. I would also suggest that having a subscription to GE will make a difference. Why? Anytime I have gone to check if GE Pro has been upgraded/repaired, in the last nine months, there has been a download. Please note this. GE Local is getting smarter and smarter (data and feature) and I am finding more and more listings that guide you through sets of world information like military bases, hikes in the Grand Canyon, and a wild patch of simply odd but interesting mash-ups As for all of us, I was drawn into a wicki-wicki last week from one of the GE Pro Localizations. Not well done but totally unexpected and conceptually very cool! I was wondering if anyone out there had insight as to the pace and/or strategy for additions of new high resolution imagery? MidNight MApper\ Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:57 AM To: Neil Havermale Cc: mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ang. RE: [MI-L] arc globe - Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx Hi All! What a splendid idea! I'm already thinking of using the GElink as presentation aid. Imagine simply mailing a small KML file and the have Google Earth do all the work. One thing though - it says that GE does not support all the point and line styles of MapInfo, but will default to its own standard: Objects using an unsupported Google Earth point style display in Google Earth as a pushpin. Fair enough, but how can you tell how a particular style will fare in GE? Some information on this would be most helpful since the trial and error approach will cost a lot of time. Hälsning / Best regards Mats.E FB Engineering AB Södra Förstadsgatan 26 211 43 Malmö Tel: 040-660 25 50 Mobil: 0705-27 60 27 Fax: 040-660 25 99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fbe.se Neil Havermale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sänt av: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-11-19 18:49 Till mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Kopia Ärende RE: [MI-L] arc globe - Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx If you are an MIP 8.0 licensed user you can pass both raster image of a map window or current slects of actual point, line, or boundary objects (current limit of 2,000 objects per layer) directly into Earth Google as of Tuesday last. Check out MapInfos 8.0 update site for this newly provided MBX utility from MapInfo. My experimentation with this utility over the last several days is that its pretty darned neat. It only sends MapInfo objects; it does not import data from Earth Google. There are some interesting and relevant license issues that will spawn out of tools like this. I use Earth Google Pro ($400/yr) and I dont know for certain about how the MIP export performs with the free version, Earth Google, or the $20/yr license for Earth Google Plus? IMHO this is one of the most interesting cross-integrations MapInfo has sent out http://extranet.mapinfo.com/smartupdate/html/pro8.0.html The MapInfo Professional (TM) Link Utility for Google Earth (TM) enables MapInfo Professional v8.0 customers to share analysis maps with others via Google Earth. This export method will serve as one more output option you can use to attractively share the value of location based analysis maps with the rest of your organization. FYI MidNight Mapper Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Carroll Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:05 AM To: mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] arc globe Is anyone aware of a program similar to ESRIs arc-globe that works with mapinfo? I have a project that I need to create a visual presentation and my client has seen output from Arc-Globe and likes it. My preference is not to have to translate the data to a new format. Barbara___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [MI-L] arc globe - Earth Google MAP2EarthGoogle.mbx
If you are an MIP 8.0 licensed user you can pass both raster image of a map window or current slects of actual point, line, or boundary objects (current limit of 2,000 objects per layer) directly into Earth Google as of Tuesday last. Check out MapInfos 8.0 update site for this newly provided MBX utility from MapInfo. My experimentation with this utility over the last several days is that its pretty darned neat. It only sends MapInfo objects; it does not import data from Earth Google. There are some interesting and relevant license issues that will spawn out of tools like this. I use Earth Google Pro ($400/yr) and I dont know for certain about how the MIP export performs with the free version, Earth Google, or the $20/yr license for Earth Google Plus? IMHO this is one of the most interesting cross-integrations MapInfo has sent out http://extranet.mapinfo.com/smartupdate/html/pro8.0.html The MapInfo Professional (TM) Link Utility for Google Earth (TM) enables MapInfo Professional v8.0 customers to share analysis maps with others via Google Earth. This export method will serve as one more output option you can use to attractively share the value of location based analysis maps with the rest of your organization. FYI MidNight Mapper Aka neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Carroll Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:05 AM To: mapinfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [MI-L] arc globe Is anyone aware of a program similar to ESRIs arc-globe that works with mapinfo? I have a project that I need to create a visual presentation and my client has seen output from Arc-Globe and likes it. My preference is not to have to translate the data to a new format. Barbara ___ MapInfo-L mailing list MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[Mapinfo-l] Map pannel Backplane/Background transparency?
Is there any easy way to set the workspace default color to null meaning logically transparent or set to another color that might be rendered and controlled to be logically transparent? Why? Have you checked if there are new updates for your 8.0? Alternatively, defaulting the back-plane to the identical workspace extent rendered from your own imagery, Google Earth, or Microsoft's Virtual Earth... an on/off switch might be cool? MidNight Mapper Aka neil ___ Mapinfo-l mailing list Mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
[Mapinfo-l] Google Earth versus Microsoft Virtual Earth?
In the case anyone is interested this day in Google Earth stuff. Sent to the list about two months ago I too have bought into Google Earth deep enough, $400/year, to get the Professional level of utility plus the GIS import module for an additional $200. I have been able to: add TAB overlays like states that snap to Google's boundaries, add special multi-layered TAB projects, string GPS bread crumbs, and absorb legacy street TABs as well as SHP tiger layers. I have been able to add to my Profile and Places current events and imagery related to our emergency states via blog sites where the Google Earth-ites compete via cool hacks and POIs. The cartographic control of points, lines and polygons (colors, lines, symbology and transparency) on TAB imports needs work and at this moment is limited to sets of 200 objects to a layer. They tell you Beta but its flawless so far. The system has had four if not five transparent updates since I subscribed must three months over ago. Additionally the registered user system provides for two configurations - laptop and office or home? And the more I return to places once visited a-far and discover new ones, what I am finding is that there is more and more spatialized and googlized information appearing in what I would describe as community hot-spots. These community hot spots grow around features added in the Professional version. I have also been provided trial periods for creation of fly-through movies and that was really neat. I want better control of my TAB overlays before I would start building fly-though movies to illustrate my on and off MIP project layers. This stuff is really exciting. Its likely to be a significant part of the WWW 3.0 next-era of the internet. Microsoft via an upgraded teraserver with a new API and implicit functionality with MapPoint/Office is also in play. Having used both Google's and Microsoft's earth products, I found Google's 3D oblique view and logical mouse action simply more fun. Google Earth content is IMHO far ahead of Microsofts Virtual Earth in imagery outside of the US. The likelihood that Microsoft's earth offering permitting continued down-loaning of it's terraserver content would reserve their interests in the www 3.0 thing. MSN Virtual Earth is a new Microsoft geo-spatial web site that integrates MSN Search, MapPoint Maps and Directions, and Microsoft TerraServer-USA into a single application. Compare Google Earth versus Microsoft Virtual Earth - http://www.jonasson.org/maps/ This ain't no average hack!!! Thanks Ryan Jonasson! FYI MidNight Mapper Aka neil ___ Mapinfo-l mailing list Mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: [Mapinfo-l] precision agriculture
Red Hen Farming Systems... http://www.farmgis.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Labombarda Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:50 AM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: [Mapinfo-l] precision agriculture Hi. anyone does know about aplications of MIP to precision agriculture...thanks Nicolas _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ ___ Mapinfo-l mailing list Mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l ___ Mapinfo-l mailing list Mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com http://www.directionsmag.com/mailman/listinfo/mapinfo-l
RE: MI-L composite European satellite image
This was posted by MapInfo today. It might have direct bearing on your quest? Thoughts anyone? FYI MidNight Mapper Many internet users world wide took notice when Google announced the availability of their latest map based searching tool called Google Earth(tm). The interface enables the user to search for places of interest. Once found, the application displays an aerial image of that location on a map. In addition, the application provides presentation of search results via an attractive user interface and universally accepted context of imagery. As a stand alone offering, Google Earth remains of limited value particularly to businesses and organizations, due to the minimal functionality it offers. We at MapInfo however, saw this opportunity as a means to help our customers communicate the value of MapInfo more effectively with the rest of their organization. To this end, we looked for ways to interoperate with this popular tool. By the end of October/early November 2005, MapInfo plans to make available on our web site a utility that will enable MapInfo Professional customers to share maps and analysis results with Google Earth users. By doing so, more individuals served by our customers stand to benefit from location based analysis. The release of this utility also underscores MapInfo's continued commitment to interoperability with industry accepted tools including Oracle, IBM and Microsoft technologies among others. For MapInfo Professional customers, the ability to share analysis maps via Google Earth will serve as one more output option with which to attractively present and increase the value and the awareness of location based analysis maps with non-location intelligence aware individuals. -Original Message- From: Cinda Graubard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:39 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: MI-L composite European satellite image Can anyone point me to a free, earth registered, composite satellite image for all of Europe? Cinda Graubard GeoMax - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 18474
MI-L A problem of too much information?
Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam expressed concern Saturday about a free mapping program from Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) , warning it could help terrorists by providing satellite photos of potential targets. http://www.technewsworld.com/story/46767.html?u=neilh_1p=ENNSS_7adf87c1 d493676e745c46e98af24791 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 18369
RE: MI-L GeoDatabase convert to MapInfo?
The best solution then is to do SHP as well as or better than ESRI directly? But then again I don't really understand what a geodatabase fully is. SHP files have their own headaches. How well can a geodatabase be deconvoluted; is this a one to many SHP files solution? My personal experiences in the translation from SHP to TAB have been successful but not without frustration. Never really know the SHP file's projection and datum. A second gripe, the imported result does not seem to have been passed its complete metadata: line types do not match nor color nor fill. My essential skill is for 7.5 and earlier. I understand that SHP formatted content is better handled in 8.0 as the newest translator now accesses an ArcGIS PRG(?) file that contains projection, datum as well as other metadata? MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:36 PM To: 'Bagwell, Ross'; 'Mapinfo-L' Subject: RE: MI-L GeoDatabase convert to MapInfo? Don't know if this is what you are looking for but you can convert the Geodatabase to a shapefile and then read the shapefile in MapInfo. Mike -Original Message- From: Bagwell, Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:58 PM To: Mapinfo-L Subject: MI-L GeoDatabase convert to MapInfo? Anyone know if it is possible to convert an ArcGIS GeoDatabase (.mdb) to open up in MapInfo? - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 18244
MI-L Google Earth verus Microsoft Virtual Earth?
I too have bought into Google Earth deep enough, $400/year, to get the Professional level of utility plus the GIS import module for an additional $200. I have been able to: add TAB overlays like states that snap to Google's boundaries, add special multi-layered TAB projects, string GPS bread crumbs, and absorb legacy street TABs as well as SHP tiger layers. I have been able to add to my Profile and Places current events and imagery related to our emergency states via blog sites where the Google Earth-ites compete via cool hacks and POIs. The cartographic control of points, lines and polygons (colors, lines, symbology and transparency) on TAB imports needs work and at this moment is limited to sets of 200 objects to a layer. They tell you Beta but its flawless so far. The system has had four if not five transparent updates since I subscribed must three months over ago. Additionally the registered user system provides for two configurations - laptop and office or home? And the more I return to places once visited a-far and discover new ones, what I am finding is that there is more and more spatialized and googlized information appearing in what I would describe as community hot-spots. These community hot spots grow around features added in the Professional version. I have also been provided trial periods for creation of fly-through movies and that was really neat. I want better control of my TAB overlays before I would start building fly-though movies to illustrate my on and off MIP project layers. This stuff is really exciting. It's likely to be a significant part of the WWW 3.0 next-era of the internet. Microsoft via an upgraded teraserver with a new API and implicit functionality with MapPoint/Office is also in play. Having used both Google's and Microsoft's earth products, I found Google's 3D oblique view and logical mouse action simply more fun. Google Earth content is IMHO far ahead of Microsoft's Virtual Earth in imagery outside of the US. The likelihood that Microsoft's earth offering permitting continued down-loaning of it's terraserver content would reserve their interests in the www 3.0 thing. MSN Virtual Earth is a new Microsoft geo-spatial web site that integrates MSN Search, MapPoint Maps and Directions, and Microsoft TerraServer-USA into a single application. Compare Google Earth versus Microsoft Virtual Earth - http://www.jonasson.org/maps/ This ain't no average hack!!! Thanks Ryan Jonasson! FYI MidNight Mapper Aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17820
MI-L MapInfo-l List imnnovation?
I was wondering if a list like this one might one day lift the List game a bit? With all the really neat stuff going on related to faster and faster internet connections generally, it might be informative as well as fun if the visual stuff we get so involved in might be shared and issues illustrated? Or are we so intimidated by spreading internet diseases that we must continue to exist only on TXT oatmeal without even raisins or brown sugar? MidNight Mapper Aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 17357
MI-L Wow! Can it be this simple?
Can 8.0 handle this? Should it? MidNight Mapper Aka neil http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/ The Natural Area Coding SystemTM is a new system to standardize and integrate geodetic datums, geographic coordinates, geographic area codes, map grids, addresses and postal codes in the world. The system employs revolutionary approaches: It has unified the concepts of geodetic points, line sections, areas, and three-dimensional regions. It employs the 30 most popular characters in the world instead of ten digits and makes full use of these characters to produce the most efficient representations; It is defined only on the datum of WGS-84 to avoid any variations; It creates one standard representation for all these geographic units. These approaches make the Natural Area Coding SystemTM superior over traditional systems. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16890
MI-L Wow! Can it be this simple?
Can 8.0 handle this? Should it? MidNight Mapper Aka neil http://www.nacgeo.com/nacsite/ The Natural Area Coding SystemTM is a new system to standardize and integrate geodetic datums, geographic coordinates, geographic area codes, map grids, addresses and postal codes in the world. The system employs revolutionary approaches: It has unified the concepts of geodetic points, line sections, areas, and three-dimensional regions. It employs the 30 most popular characters in the world instead of ten digits and makes full use of these characters to produce the most efficient representations; It is defined only on the datum of WGS-84 to avoid any variations; It creates one standard representation for all these geographic units. These approaches make the Natural Area Coding SystemTM superior over traditional systems. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16891
RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold
I would advocate that any sort of comparison take place on the pending Pro 8.0 versus an old code emulated by many. Given that the rumor of the release for MapInfo Pro 8.0 is for this month, I'd wait a few days before discounting the MapInfo offering as suggested. neil -Original Message- From: SCISOFT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:35 AM To: 'Ben A Greenberg'; 'Cowper, Brian'; MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: 'Sukkurwala, Gus' Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold I strongly disagree - painfully slow? You've got to be kidding! And look at the last week (or year) of posts here on MapInfo-L about MapInfo Professional's problems with MS Access; contrast that with the database facilities in Manifold 6+ and its powerful spatial SQL ... I main thing wrong with Manifold is that it's priced too low. Ian Thomas GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia -Original Message- From: Ben A Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 11:48 PM To: Cowper, Brian; MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: Sukkurwala, Gus Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold Right off the bat i can say that i would not reccomend Manifold over Mapinfo for day to day desktop mapping. THis is mainly because it is painfully slow. I have found it usefull as a extra utility, but don't rely on it (like i do mapinfo) for day to day work. That being said, it's not a bad deal for $300 or whatever it costs now, assuming you also have Mapinfo, ArcView, or a compararble desktop product. Ben Greenberg GIS Coordinator NAI MLG Commercial 262-797-9400 -Original Message- From: Cowper, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:31 AM To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: Sukkurwala, Gus Subject: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold Hi Listers, I have been asked to evaulate Manifold, do any of you have experience using Manifold? I would particularly be interested in how Manifold compares to MapInfo. I will be cheking out an evaulation copy of Manifold this week, but any Manifold real world experiences would be helpful. TIA Brian Cowper - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16628 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16629 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 31/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 31/05/2005 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16631 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16726
RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold
I would advocate that any sort of comparison take place on the pending Pro 8.0 versus an old code emulated by many. Given that the rumor of the release for MapInfo Pro 8.0 is for this month, I'd wait a few days before discounting the MapInfo offering as suggested. neil -Original Message- From: SCISOFT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:35 AM To: 'Ben A Greenberg'; 'Cowper, Brian'; MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: 'Sukkurwala, Gus' Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold I strongly disagree - painfully slow? You've got to be kidding! And look at the last week (or year) of posts here on MapInfo-L about MapInfo Professional's problems with MS Access; contrast that with the database facilities in Manifold 6+ and its powerful spatial SQL ... I main thing wrong with Manifold is that it's priced too low. Ian Thomas GeoSciSoft - Perth, Australia -Original Message- From: Ben A Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 11:48 PM To: Cowper, Brian; MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: Sukkurwala, Gus Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold Right off the bat i can say that i would not reccomend Manifold over Mapinfo for day to day desktop mapping. THis is mainly because it is painfully slow. I have found it usefull as a extra utility, but don't rely on it (like i do mapinfo) for day to day work. That being said, it's not a bad deal for $300 or whatever it costs now, assuming you also have Mapinfo, ArcView, or a compararble desktop product. Ben Greenberg GIS Coordinator NAI MLG Commercial 262-797-9400 -Original Message- From: Cowper, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:31 AM To: MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com Cc: Sukkurwala, Gus Subject: MI-L MapInfo vs. Manifold Hi Listers, I have been asked to evaulate Manifold, do any of you have experience using Manifold? I would particularly be interested in how Manifold compares to MapInfo. I will be cheking out an evaulation copy of Manifold this week, but any Manifold real world experiences would be helpful. TIA Brian Cowper - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16628 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16629 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 31/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 31/05/2005 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16631 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16727
MI-L Pending MapInfo Pro 8.0?
Well it looks like MapInfo Professional 8.0 release is just around the corner? Looks like the Aussies get first glimpse... http://www.mapinfo.com.au/location/integration - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16434
MI-L An Oracle versus Exponare Question
Any general of other recommendations for the support of an Exponare solution with Oracle. Thanks MidNIght Mapper Aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16346
RE: MI-L MapInfo and Tablet PC's
Back in the days of Windows 3.0 a number of companies created tablets. We selected the Toshiba and to this day that design has not far evolved from those earily days. We work in agriculture and needed a tool to help automate the heads-up feet-down field inventory and scouting. That product is FarmGIS. What we found is that sketching was a poor method as you have deal with issues related to pen stroke and lifts. What we did was to enable associated GPS to handle the point and line work. Turn on the process and just walk and the info is captured. If you would like a evaluation copy let me know. neil -Original Message- From: Jones Mal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:12 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: MI-L MapInfo and Tablet PC's Good morning all I am currently evaluating a tablet PC for field use by geologists. I have installed MapInfo 7 and noticed that on-screen digitising is not the best. Successive pen taps are not always recorded, resulting in a series of disconnected segments rather a continuous line. Has anyone tried MapInfo on a tablet running the latest Win XP Tablet OS and have any comments on use? Cheers Mal Mal Jones Senior Geoscientist - Remote Sensing Geological Survey of Queensland Department of Natural Resources and Mines GPO Box 2454 Brisbane Australia 4001 Ph: (07) 3362 9348 (International - replace 07 with 617) GSQ 137th anniversary - 2005 The information in this e-mail together with any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any form of review, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, you are asked to inform the sender as quickly as possible and delete this message and any copies of this message from your computer and/or your computer system network. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 16059
MI-L Map2PDF.... Now this is innovation
Now this is really a neat product It just doesn't work with MapInfo Pro or MapXtream (yet?). Hello, Hello, earth to troy... is anyone listening? http://www.layton-graphics.com/products.html http://www.layton-graphics.com/products.html Map2PDF is an innovative publishing tool that takes your raster and proprietary CAD and GIS data formats and publishes them to intelligent PDF files. The PDF files can then be viewed, printed, searched and queried using the freely available Adobe Reader(tm), and viewed, printed, searched, queried, marked up and redlined using full Adobe Acrobat(tm). This solution solidifies PDF as the de facto file format for storing and distributing all enterprise data. MAP2PDF renders all your engineering and mapping data to intelligent PDF files that are hyperlinked, bookmarked and searchable by either attribute data, lat/long or database query. * Supported GIS Systems, file formats and databases: AutoDesk, ESRI, Intergraph, SmallWorld, DGN, DWG, DXF, HPGL, Raster and all ODBC compliant databases.
RE: MI-L Text Book
MapCalc Learner http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/GIS01_MC.htm http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/ -Original Message- From: Richard Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 3:33 PM To: mapinfo-l@lists.directionsmag.com Subject: MI-L Text Book I am teaching a semester long course next fall on GIS, Spatial Analysis, and Spatial Statistics. I will be using Mapinfo, GeoDa, and CrimeStat. Do you have any suggestions for a good text book? Thanks for your help Richard Block Richard Block Department of Sociology Loyola University 6525 N Sheridan Rd. Chicago IL 60626 Telephone 773 508 3454 FAX 773 508 7099 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 15494 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 15495
RE: MI-L S/W to Merge USGS DOQs
I think you can pull the maps you need from Terraserver http://terraserver.microsoft.com/ -Original Message- From: Frank Aaron (TX/EUS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:27 PM To: 'MapInfo-L@lists.directionsmag.com' Subject: MI-L S/W to Merge USGS DOQs Hi, Does anyone know of a free utility that would allow one to merge several individual USGS Digital Orthophoto Quadrangle (DOQs - 1m resolution) into one digital map to represent an entire state? I was hoping to take all of the tiles for the state of AZ and merge them into a single file thus preventing one from having to load 100's of tiles each time. Best regards, Frank Aaron, MSc. Physics, MSEE Sr Wireless Systems Engineer, Professional Services Ericsson USA Global Services North America Tel: (972) 583-0112 Fax: (972) 583-2273 Mobile:(972) 679-9291 mail to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 15374
RE: MI-L Differences between MapInfo and ArcView.
Robert - A cross-cultural experience might explain your challenge? Let us learn more of your insights. But I was wondering if the communication will remain insightful once MapInfo Pro 8.+ resolves with its innovative designs? Un-settling but exciting times. Any week now. MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Robert Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:12 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: MI-L Differences between MapInfo and ArcView. Hi All, Not wanting to start this debate over again, but I am training some ArcView people in MapInfo, so wanted to give them an overview about differences between the two. They are advanced users. The sort of thing that I wanted to highlight are for example: Project = Workspace. MapInfo's spatial objects have colour etc. as a property of that object, meaning that you can set the style of different objects in one table to display differently by default - no need to thematicise every layer. MapInfo has text spatial objects, allowing you to create text that can be more accurately placed on a map. These objects can have a database attached the same as other spatial objects. You can mix spatial object types in one table (not recommended, but handy some times). Each table has a projection, and you can have a map composed of layers that are different projections. I am fairly ignorant of ArcView, so would appreciate some help from any bilingual users. r -- Robert Crossley Agtrix P/L 9 Short St PO Box 63 New Brighton 2483 Far Southern Queensland AUSTRALIA 153.549004 E 28.517344 S P: 02 6680 1309 F: 02 6680 5214 M: 0419 718 642 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.agtrix.com W: www.wotzhere.com skype: robertcrossley - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 15201 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 15203
RE: MI-L Cluster Mapping
You might want to take a look at MapCalc. It's low cost but complete grid or cell spatial analysis package that rasterizes TAB and SHP vector data. Its spatial functions include operations for 1) reclassify, 2) overlay, distance, neighborhood, and statistics. It also can rasterize geoTIFF images to common analysis frames. MapCalc can also import both MapInfo and ESRI grid formats. It provides several kriging models as well as nearest neighbor and if more sophisticated surface modeling is needed, MapCalc also cross-integrates with Surfer 7.+. Once a grid-space of many TAB and/or SHP layers is generated, all or any surface, contour, or grid point values can be exported directly into MapInfo. Download MapCalc Learner Trialware http://www.farmgis.com/products/software/mapcalc/default.asp And a set of tutorials on use http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html FYI -Original Message- From: Andrew Tracey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Cluster Mapping Dear All We want to produce some cluster mapping and are after some advice of how to do this, and any pitfalls they may be. We have a table with points in and want to see where there are clusters of points. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards Andrew Tracey Information Support Officer Corporate Information Corporate Growth and Focus Corporate Development South Tyneside Council Westoe Road South Shields NE33 2RL Tel: 0191 4247561 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not print this e-mail if you can help it - and help protect the environment. This Message may contain confidential information and is protected by copyright. If you receive it in error please notify us and delete it without making use of or copying it. The addressee and other employees within the Council may read and copy any e-mail reply to this message and other e-mails you send to us. Whilst we use virus checking procedures we accept no liability for viruses and recipients must rely on their own virus checking procedures. The Council's web site address is www.southtyneside.info - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14385 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14466
MI-L USDA National Soil Survey
Saw this today and thought some on the list might have interest... I guess this is progress? USDA http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/news/thisweek/2004/041124/naistechtip.html Since its initial release in 1994, the National Soil Information System (NASIS) software program has been used for the development and maintenance of soil survey information. Until now, NASIS annual modifications consisted of minor enhancements and upgrades this time however, modification will move NASIS from its current computer environment of a UNIX X-window based system that utilizes the INFORMIX relational database management system to a Microsoft platform that is more in line with other NRCS computer applications. The new platform is anticipated to improve many of the network problems NRCS has experienced. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14214
RE: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services
Any four wheeler worth their salt knows as soon as your wheels spin stop and back out. Even more importantly once you are 4-wheel-wise you don't go where you know or even suspect boggy ground. And lastly you never go alone; only with a backup you can rely on to pull you out. Only rookies and poags spin their wheels stupidly. -Original Message- From: Addison, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:22 PM To: Peter Horsbøll Møller; Bill Thoen; MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services As a wise man once told me (my dad), 4 Wheel Drive means you travel further and get bogged deeper The end result is you will need a bigger shovel. Knowing where you are when you get stuck doesn't help with the digging. -Original Message- From: Peter Horsbøll Møller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 10:58 AM To: Bill Thoen; MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services But I suppose using these new tools is like driving a truck with four-wheel drive. Now I can get stuck in much more remote places Yes, but then it's good it is GIS you are working with. You should be able to find a way out from anywhere ;-) Of course that require that someone else has been there before you and mapped the area ! Peter Horsbøll Møller GIS Developer Geographical Information IT COWI A/S Odensevej 95 5260 Odense S. Denmark Tel + 45 6311 4900 Dir +45 6311 4908 Mob +45 5156 1045 Fax + 45 6311 4949 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cowi.dk http://www.cowi.dk/ From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 23-Nov-04 03:33 To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L SUM: MapInfo Web Services As I mentioned yesterday I've been exploring how to use XML and SOAP as applied to web services, and so I was looking for some working examples. Here's what I've received. First, a correction. The best place to dip into the ESRI (mostly free) web services is probably at http://arcweb.esri.com/arcwebonline/index.htm. MapInfo's entry into this arena is a product called Envinsa. Check it out at http://www.envinsa.com/. Ian Erickson pointed this one out and notes that ...specialized web services are NOT cheap but they simplify delivery of geo-spatial solutions to such a degree that more and more software developers will not need to be GIS experts, but rather just a subscriber to a geo-spatial service. I think that maybe he has something here... Should we developers be worried? But for now, there are still a few free toys to play with that will teach you how it's done. IL Thomas mentions TerraServer: Microsoft TerraService has code examples, SOAP, etc. And you can link to it. See http://terraserver-usa.com/terraservice.asmx. Introductory material is here: http://terraservice.net/about.aspx.; Antoine Gilbert mentioned http://www.xmethods.com/, and suggested I go to the full listing link. This is a collection of generally non-map-oriented services --mostly free-- but as the first response to the daily quote one I tried said, Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Antoine also mentioned XMLSpy, which is a toolkit to facilitate working with web services via SOAP and their WSDL (Web Service Description Language) file. As it turns out, I spent a half day on Sunday coding a SOAP request and response XML-parsing module in VB6 (because VB6 is what I have on my laptop at home) to access the Arcweb FindPlace web service, but when I got into my office this morning (where I have C# and .NET) I was shocked to realize that all you have to do to set up a client to consume a web service in the .NET environment is simply add the WSDL file to Web References and badda bing, all the objects for the web service are defined and ready to go! The only code you have to write after that is about 10 lines to get it to work. Took about 10 minutes. Wow! C#, .NET and the Visual Studio IDE is rather impressive! But I suppose using these new tools is like driving a truck with four-wheel drive. Now I can get stuck in much more remote places! - Bill Thoen - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14175 ___ This e-mail message contains confidential information which is intended for the use of the person to whom it is addressed. If you received it in error, please notify the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any disclosure, re-transmission, dissemination or any other use of this information is strictly prohibited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ___
MI-L MapX Question
I was wondering if anyone may have a changes/additions list for the version shift from MapX4.5 to MapX5.0? neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14197
RE: MI-L map data on a public site... legal issues...?
I'll second Fletcher's observations. Up-to-date street information makes sense for certain usages. Keeping data-up-to-date is not trivial. Its one thing to use Tigre data but totally different to the effort and investment to insure the streets and addresses are clean and accurate. Make certain the utility of timeliness is well understood... its far easier to extend the rules over older stuff that is better time-scaled to your users' needs. I can personally confirm that if you are upfront with the data folks at MapInfo that they have in my experience always made room for our needs. But be aware. Its one thing for the sales group to approve but another for the contracts side of the outfit to actually get the work out. Be polite and you'll likely get what you need. neil -Original Message- From: Fletcher James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:49 AM To: 'Simmonds, Ashley (DTUP)' Cc: MapInfo ListServe Questions Subject: RE: MI-L map data on a public site... legal issues...? One of my clients had a similar situation. The informal answer is this: The people who own the data really have two concerns. 1. They want to make sure that you are not creating a situation in which people who would otherwise buy data from them, are getting it from you, without compensation. That's why there are all of those restrictions to make sure that nobody can extract latlongs, etc., and also to make sure that you cannot dynamically generate maps, or sell maps. 2. They also want the opportunity to charge more if you are making piles of money using their data. That's another reason for the restrictions on internal use, etc. The standard data license is written with highly restrictive language, which precludes anything even vaguely resembling an infringement on what the vendors consider to be their rights. So, you've got two different red lines -- one where you are in technical violation of the license, and another, much further out, where you're actually doing something which the vendors don't want done. The lawyers write the licenses this way, so that anybody who really misuses the data cannot claim that they only had their little toe over the line, or that the line is unclear. I think for many people, the intended use falls between the two lines. There is a clause in the license, after all the limitations, which says something like unless otherwise agreed in writing. The solution is to speak with MI or the licensor of the data, describe what you wish to do with it, and get their agreement. If you do wish to be selling products or services which include large amounts of their data, they would probably be very happy to have you do so -- for a percentage. After all, that's why they're in the business. Fletcher James President Levit James, Inc. 703-771-1549 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.levitjames.com -Original Message- From: Simmonds, Ashley (DTUP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:25 PM To: 'Mapinfo List (E-mail) ' (E-mail) Subject: MI-L map data on a public site... legal issues...? hey all, with regards to the map data we use, what - if any - legal issues exist for effectively publishing this data? i would have thought that purchasing the dataset allows you to do what you wish with it, publishing wise. obviously i can't distribute the original data, but for displaying pretty maps and stuff in management reports nobody ever questioned the legality as that's what we got the data for. however now that i've made a system where the maps can be viewed online, some people are getting nervous... our base data comes from Streetworks, so what's the deal? ash - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14093 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14101
RE: MI-L MapX run-time installation
I doubt that MapInfo had a CD for you. At best you will need to create one yourself. As for selling first and then paying for the MapX license, that I will suggest is liely tin-ince. I don't think you will find any MapInfo support there. So make certain you have paid the entry fee for MapX development. You'll get a base pack of licenses with that investment. You then buy licenses - the more you buy on the PO the lower their individual costs. So those signals aside, I would very much like to know what happens on your quest as would the mapinfo-l list. MapX is undergoing some very serious reworking and I am curious as to what new comers to it face. You might take an additional look at the most current version of MapXtream as possibly being the business model more appropriate for further code investments? neil -Original Message- From: Tim Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:19 PM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L MapX run-time installation Hi List, I have a MapX question that I have asked MapInfo about, but I thought I might get a good answer here earlier... Hi, I want to distribute our MapX application. I have read the user manual and it indicates that there are two ways to licence the run-time libraries. The easy way is to install MapX from the MapX install CD, the other is to include all the dlls etc. in my own installer. I want to do the easy way. How do I supply our customers with the MapX install CD? Can I copy our CD and give it to our customers and then purchase licenses? Or does MapInfo supply a CD with each run-time license purchased? Is there a separate run-time installer CD than the main MapX development CD? Thanks for any help with this. Kind regards Tim Smith - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14009 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 14016
RE: MI-L Digital field data collection and GPS
The precision agriculture community uses PDAs every day on the farm and in the tractor. Most do well but others do better. There are several devices out there you should consider. Whatever your do get one with Bluetooth connectivity! Trimble has two WinCE devices that are well hardened and include integrated GPS. One gives WAAS accuracy of say 3m or better. The second can get into the sub-meter region with post processing. Both are expensive but first grade quality. (http://www.trimble.com/geoexplorer.shtml) Magellan has several really great devices as well. IMHO I think you should take a close look at them as one or two of the hardened solutions have excellent built-in field data collection solutions... and you can load your favorite background maps as well. (http://www.magellangps.com/en) Another solution that sleeves on to many iPAQ models is the Navman solution. (http://www.navman.com/) Lastly, if Trimble's costs are too much and you prefer a WinCE over the Magellan or Garmin GPS-centric solution, give Tripod a look. Tripod is a Trimble company but without the attitude would be the best way to describe them. These handhelds are desperate for a integrated Bluetooth but do have a serial cable system that allows connection to GPS without Bluetooth broadcast. (http://www.tdsway.com/) As for WinCE software, well you can go a number of ways.. The ESRI solution is sophisticated as well as a ESRI-centric. MapInfo also has several VAR building on their MapMobile solution as well. As an alternative you might want to consider Trimble's EzMAP product. (http://www.trimble.com/aggps_ezmap.html) While aimed at Precision Ag if you study it a bit you will find that it has very powerful features for specialized configuration unique to your purpose. If you take a serious look at this package I think you will be impressed and it's a good value IMHO when compared to other like products. As for the GPS side, I prefer the Bluetooth GPS solutions. At under $200 they solve the old cable gets in your way issues. Just sticky Velcro it to your hat and your mobile. You can get 5-6 hours from a charge. (http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/default.asp?_SetCurrentVersion=EN) On a general note for WAAS receivers... be aware that the WAAS correction systems may not be reliable for you in the Far North reaches as the corresponding satellites will be relatively low on the horizon - read easily blocked line-of-sight. Best to check the WAAS site. Lastly, take a look at the Oziexplorer solution. Real low cost and surprisingly useful (http://www.oziexplorer.com) FWIW MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Carl Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Digital field data collection and GPS Hello all, While not directly a MI question, I'm sure many of you can point me in the right direction. I'm just starting to research the use of PDA's with wireless GPS and simple data collection apps for use in somewhat harsh environments (wet, chilly, windy, buggy, dirty environments of Alaska) for the collection of field data (samples and descriptions mostly). Does anyone have a system they are successfully using? Or a review- type website where they document their trials and tribulations using various pieces of hardware and software? Much appreciated, Carl - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13949 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13951
RE: MI-L MapInfo Laptop?
We like SONY. Their 505s have maintained extraordinary quality over the last eight years or so - features, reliability, and finish. The video qualities are most important in my opinion. Super-speeded razzel-dazzle is great (and expensive!) and I want more, but make certain the screen size versus color depth are well populated as a trade against pure speed? Why? We have found that adding or supplementing any included docking cradles organizes the workplace cable mess especially when external larger/better resolution flatscreen, keyboards, and mice are added. Enough said. -Original Message- From: Spatial Decisions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:39 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: MI-L MapInfo Laptop? Hi MapInfo Listers We are about to replace a number of our laptops (which are primarily used as desktop replacement/presentation machines) and have found it difficult to get any reliable benchmarks - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13816
MI-L USDA Soil Surveys 1:24k News
If you ever need detailed soils information for your county you might be interested in this bit of news... Some day (soon) the paper surveys books are history and replaced with CDs/DVDs. FYI http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/news/thisweek/2004/041013/newsoilmapstechtip.html - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13716
RE: MI - L : ADO.NET and Mapinfo and PostGIS ?
I was wondering if you might extend my reach a bit. I just tried to google on ADO.NET and came up no info of any sort. I must be missing something? Just what is ADO.NET? MidNight Mapper neil -Original Message- From: Ian Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:39 AM To: Bill Thoen Cc: digeteca; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MI - L : Mapinfo and PostGIS ? Presumably, this is where the extendability of the .NET framework and the forthcoming version of MapInfo Pro may excel. Because the underlying engine behind the MapInfo Table data source is now ADO.NET, and if the folks at MapInfo have exposed the classes that are necessary, you could in theory write your own data provider that utililized the Postgis data source. I say may because I do not know if this truly possible, and the folks at MapInfo would be better at answering whether or not I've simply bought into marketing spin or rather a new capability does exist in writing custom data provider classes. So MapInfo folks, can this be done? Are there a sifficient amount of classes exposed as part of the MapInfo .NET namespace to accomodate such a thing? Ian Erickson AnalyGIS, LLC Gold Canyon, AZ 85218 http://www.analygis.com/ tel: 480.677.6260 fax: 480.677.6261 cell: 480.221.7173 Bill Thoen wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, digeteca wrote: Does Mapinfo can manipulate PostGIS spatial data ? Not directly as far as I know, but I suppose if you can connect to a PostgreSQL/PostGIS data source via ODBC, you might be able to do something with the data using a MapBasic application. - Bill Thoen - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13599 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13600 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13602
RE: MI-L : ADO.NET and Mapinfo and PostGIS ?
Ok, I got the thing and there are several hundreds of goole hits... And I sort of understand that XML seems to be a good thing too. Also saw that the ADO idea has cycled several times since 1998 but is generally seen as a good thing. That leads me to ask, is Microsoft's Access data base fully compliant to the ADO.NET standard/method? Is the common ground of the future for those of use who are lesser than software engineers? When MapInfo Pro.NET arrives will its tradition of TAB and near.DBF legacy alter in significant ways? Will this get easier or more convoluted? Please excuse my lack of insight on this stuff... I am trying to catch up. MidNight Aka neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MI-L : ADO.NET and Mapinfo and PostGIS ? If one is already a database geek then I recommend the O'Reilly ADO .NET in a nutshell book. Helped me a lot. Its virtue is it's vice: short and sweet (compared to so many of the 1,000+ page behemoths). The object model is rich, useful, and completely different that anything that came before. (ADO or RDO or DAO to name the Microsoft data access models). -Original Message- From: Uffe Kousgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:37 PM To: Mapinfo-L Subject: Re: MI-L : ADO.NET and Mapinfo and PostGIS ? Search on ADO .NET and you will find plenty. To put it short: It is the data access layer on the .NET platform. Regards Uffe - Original Message - From: Neil Havermale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill Thoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: digeteca [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: RE: MI - L : ADO.NET and Mapinfo and PostGIS ? I was wondering if you might extend my reach a bit. I just tried to google on ADO.NET and came up no info of any sort. I must be missing something? Just what is ADO.NET? MidNight Mapper neil -Original Message- From: Ian Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:39 AM To: Bill Thoen Cc: digeteca; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MI - L : Mapinfo and PostGIS ? Presumably, this is where the extendability of the .NET framework and the forthcoming version of MapInfo Pro may excel. Because the underlying engine behind the MapInfo Table data source is now ADO.NET, and if the folks at MapInfo have exposed the classes that are necessary, you could in theory write your own data provider that utililized the Postgis data source. I say may because I do not know if this truly possible, and the folks at MapInfo would be better at answering whether or not I've simply bought into marketing spin or rather a new capability does exist in writing custom data provider classes. So MapInfo folks, can this be done? Are there a sifficient amount of classes exposed as part of the MapInfo .NET namespace to accomodate such a thing? Ian Erickson AnalyGIS, LLC Gold Canyon, AZ 85218 http://www.analygis.com/ tel: 480.677.6260 fax: 480.677.6261 cell: 480.221.7173 Bill Thoen wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, digeteca wrote: Does Mapinfo can manipulate PostGIS spatial data ? Not directly as far as I know, but I suppose if you can connect to a PostgreSQL/PostGIS data source via ODBC, you might be able to do something with the data using a MapBasic application. - Bill Thoen - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13599 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13600 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13602 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13604 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13605 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13608
MI-L Aggie News: US County Soil Survey
For any of you that may be interested in US soils descriptions as well as open formats scaled at 1:24,000 and larger identifying a minimum mapping unit of two to five acres you should surf over to http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/news/thisweek/2004/040310/nebsoilsurvey.html http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/news/thisweek/2004/040310/nebsoilsurvey.html Nebraska could be considered as a signal state for what sort of digital soil surveys to expect from your county, regional, or state office of the Natural Resource Conservation Service (NRCS) of the Department of Agriculture. The University of Nebraska is the Land Grant arm for its growers. Importantly, NRCS bases a large number of important soils and soils information specialists and office locations in Lincoln, in particular its soil survey group. Other important NRCS labs for electronic formats are located near Fort Worth, TX and another in Fort Collins, Colorado. The formalization of the Nation's soil survey to digital form has been far slower than I would have expected. I'll suspect it's a choice to re-image with new third order field survey or to more simply take a scan of the legacy work. I bet the recent soil surveys are the former, a more expensive re-survey, where as Iowa was a ISPAID scanning project? There are likely many more counties in process than the released reports would indicate Sometimes soil survey information and its land classification and determinations are sensitive to many communities in the County and surrounds... analysis paralysis being the likely result. I would suggest that you contact the most local NRCS office to find information not listed in the report above. They may also have very inexpensive annual local imagry from the last cropping season (leaf on) as well as they are likely a depository for National Aerial Imagery taken every five years - more up to date than the similar image quality as found on TerraLink. NRCS - USDA Main Pages http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/technical/land/nrcsdata.html http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/technical/land/nrcsdata.html NRCS Ft Worth, TX GIS Lab http://www.ftw.nrcs.usda.gov/Welcome.html http://www.ftw.nrcs.usda.gov/Welcome.html NRCS Ft Collins, CO red drape http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/projects/projects.htm?ACCN_NO=402454 http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/projects/projects.htm?ACCN_NO=402454fy=20 00 fy=2000 USGS 5 Year Leaf-off Imagry http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/finder/finder_main.pl?dataset_name=NAPP http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/finder/finder_main.pl?dataset_name=NAPP TerraLink FYI MidNight Mapper
RE: MI-L manually changing class of one cell in a classified grid
MapCalc - http://www.farmgis.com/products/software/mapcalc/default.asp And if your would like to learn a bit more about spatial grid analysis try: http://blaze.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html FYI -Original Message- From: Susan Yu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri day, September 17, 2004 1:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L manually changing class of one cell in a classified grid Hi, Reading all the post about classified grid made me revisit an old problem that I never got around to but always hanging over my head. Would anyone know how to reclassify a single cell in a classified grid? This is something I wouldn't mind doing manually because it requires me to look at the grid at very close inspection. Most of the cells are classified correctly except maybe a small area which I would like to move to a different class. I only have VM and it seems to only change classification on what's already classified... unless I'm wrong. I'm not very good with VM. Does anyone know how to manipulate the grid with VM? Or perhaps there's a tool out there that does this simply? (nothing too expensive... however, best price for me is usually free! :D ) Any information would help. Thanks, susan - Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13394
FW: MI-L MapInfo 7.8....OK confuse me more!!!
-Original Message- From: Neil Havermale Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:07 AM To: 'Tom Thomson' Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo 7.8OK confuse me more!!! As far as the succinct explanation, I would suggest you are watching one develop. On the Delphi thing, the limited understanding that I have on the potential for .NET is that it will be far better in the management of legacy .NET code meaning that issues of drivers and libraries that shift in significant ways through time to cause problems when installed over each other (like under the 32 design), will be fully managed by .NET protocols? I have a question for the ESRI ArcGIS developers. My understanding is that ESRI may have a unique version of VB for ArcGIS work? Also are the ESRI 8 and 9 platforms a so called XP Certified product? I notice that the pending 7.8 MapInfo Pro is XP Certified. As to if it will make the same for MIP 8 and above I don't know but I would be interested to know if it really makes much of any difference. I notice that the current MapXtream.NET version may be a tad unstable for say Delphi just for this reason? And not to get too freaked out by the rumor mill, having two versions of MapInfo Pro, one for 32 with MapBasic and the other for NET, seems a bit worrisome and would suggest a doubling of the development effort? MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Tom Thomson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:53 AM To: MapInfo-L Subject: RE: MI-L MapInfo 7.8OK confuse me more!!! Hello List This NET vs Windows conversation leaves me somewhat confused. I am still using MI5.0 so you see the reason!! I have been thinking of upgrading but 5.0 has worked along with all the addins and tricks and special pixie dust to make things work. But now I see that I spend more time doing things the hard way ..like having to convert SHP to TAB instead of opening them direct. So I see the advantage of an upgrade but what is the advantage to me of waiting for NET version??? My calloused forehead thinks that NET applications run on the web and I will have to have hi-speed internet to use them. Lose control of owning a program and other problems. Where is a succinct explanation about NET applications and how they would impact applications and their use. Thanks..tom == Tom ThomsonNorthwest Agricultural Consulting 1275 Oak Villa Road[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dallas, Oregon 97338 Phone/FAX 503-623-0468 The only difference between a problem and a solution is that everyone understands the solution.Charles Kettering === - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13323 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13330
RE: MI-L Ang. MI-L Alternative to MapXtreme
The grass is always greener If you have any sort of experience with MapX you will quickly discern the limitations of the so-called MapX alternatives, including the pending MapX.NET. We too have been looking around since evaluating and finding the jump from MapX to MapX.NET will be neither easy nor low cost as well as the .NET benefits being difficult for us to bring into current terms. Having invested a good heap of valuable engineering time into consideration of alternatives and finding mostly problematic omissions in all MapX-like offerings (so far) and then worse, getting all twisted up in the old technology versus utility collisions regarding the alternatives' most highlighted benefit, no or lower cost distribution licensing, we are essentially stalled out for the moment.. we await the coming of MapInfo Pro 8.0 and MapX.NET. Why? We are serious about our code investment and we must be sensitive, diligent as to how these other new entrant outfits will make enough money to survive, to compete, and therefore give us the technological advantages partnering is supposed to deliver; we are confused given they as the alternates, are not even in third, fourth, or likely even top-ten place but way down the significant GIS-tools supplier list. A fast horse that can not carry a fair load can never win. It's sad but true. Times do change and stuff does happen. Skills and the promise of reuse technology investment are still too sticky to the tar-babies we struck. Life in FUD lane! Please use your proper flashers! MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Mats Elfström [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:39 PM To: Stuart Jones stu_j Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Ang. MI-L Alternative to MapXtreme Hi Stuart! Why don't you take a look at the product suite from TatukGis http://www.tatukgis.com/Home/home.aspx I do not have any experience from their Web mapping software but it looks promising and I have been meaning to try the demo version but haven't found the time yet. But now that the matter has been brought up, maybe someone else has tried? Anyway, they have a free GIS viewer which performs adequately, but I have still to make it open my MapInfo workspaces (which it claims it can). On another cost level - at least in terms of licensing costs - is of course the Mapserver effort from the University of Minnesota, http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/ which is built on freeware parts - but I expect there is a lot of assembly needed on that course. Hälsning/ Best regards Mats.E FB Engineering AB Södra Förstadsgatan 26 211 43 Malmö Observera att vi byter telefonnummer 1 september! Tel: 040-665 64 80 från 1/9 040-660 2550 Mobil: 0705-27 60 27 ändras inte Fax: 040-665 69 90 från 1/9 040-660 2599 e-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fbe.se Stuart Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-09-01 10:27 Till [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopia Ärende MI-L Alternative to MapXtreme Dear List I'm looking for recommendations for replacements to MapXtreme. I would like to create a web mapping application but the MapInfo licensing is prohibitive. Ideally, any alternative will be able to produce thematics and be able to bind to an external database. I'm looking into the open source MapServer though I'm not sure that it supports these features. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Stuart ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13158 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13159 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13179
MI-L Hopefully ETA questions?
I have two questions that seem to endlessly vex me... someday it will just work... Question #1 - I am trying to make advantage on a rather large heap of SHP data. Each set of data have three files: a SHP, a DBF, and a PRJ. I am using MIP 7.5 and when I select *.SHP from MIP's Open File dialogs I go through first a rename step on the way to TAB which also includes a button for projection. All the SHP data are correctly defined in their PRJ file as WGS84 natively but the MIP OpenFileSHP apparently does not recognize the third file, PRJ, with the projection information in it? Checking the projection of the in-bound SHP file, the projection is defaulted as simple Lat/Long and not Lat/Long WHS84 which should(?) be found in the PRJ file? Am I missing something or is this one of those as programmed shortfalls? Question #2 - Firstly I want to thank and congratulate Data Directions for their Win2Tab that makes a georegistered TIF, JPG, or BMP file from a MIP window. Why? If any of you are experimenting with PDA mapping or handheld GPS devices this utility would seem a nifty way to put MIP backdrop maps in PDAs and PNUs (personal navigation unit). So here is my question. If I have a registered image in a MIP window, lets say UTM meters in the Mid-west somewhere and overlain with streets (NAD27) and labels and the like, if I use this nifty utility to make a world JPEG, am I going to run into all sorts of almost correct registration issues since I didn't formally shift the original UTM registered image to the targeted WGS84 output JPW format so I best match the PDA's GPS connection? (I am using one of the many under $39 PDA mappers.) The issue being the original UTM MIP image will afinely warp the NAD27 streets to it's projection. Therefore the MIP window is in UTM orientation which the Win2TAB utility is about to build a WGS84 JPW whew! Thanks for your insights... MidNight Mapper Aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 13011
RE: MI-L MapX MapXTreme 2004 .NET
Thanks for the reality check John! A number of excellent intertwined questions as regards next steps given the pending shift from MapInfo Pro 7.x to the next generation of 8.X+. My general understanding is that MapX as we now use and understand it will be replaced with a more extensive MapX.NET versioning? From this list, we know someday soon all of the MapInfo technology futures are designed to use the MapX.NET foundation; that MapX as we now know is to be replaced and likely not forward compatible? MapXtream.NET, if I can refer to it that way, to me seems an incremental step towards the eventual MapInfo Pro.NET 8.+ and its corresponding MapX.NET developers' engine? If these signals are more or less accurate, just how that will influence your pathway in the near term is uncertain; I too am confused. I would not expect that you will be able to get the same features from MapX.NET 6.+ as you will from the core technologies as expressed in MapInfo Professional.NET 8.+? Seems like that licensing model is long established in the current Pro Runtime licensing designs? In the shortrun, I would guess you/we may have several pathways. 1) Wait for the MapInfo Pro.Net 8.x and pay your upgrade costs. It has been revealed that legacy MapBasic code will still be supported and useful so we should have the best of both worlds? As for cost to jump to the next Pro version, well we can only go on what history has established as MapInfo policy? 2) Try to build on the MapXtream.NET version and its engine licensing costs with the goal of maintaining your code investment so it may be inserted into your upgrade MapInfo Pro.NET licenses. Or 3), continue with MapX 5 as a simple economic decision in the short run but knowing it will not be supported in the near future and the code legacy will need to be reworked (hopefully with as little pain as possible?). I am actually quite excited about the pending 8.0 version. We jumped from MapBasic to MapX many years ago. I will not even try to guess what sort of internal debates may have gone on within the One or the Next World View offices and would simply support the code-jockies by not freaking-out to get it wrong on time. But I would like to better understand these pending issues. MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: John Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L MapX MapXTreme 2004 .NET Hi List, I have a client that has existing investments in MapInfo Professional (in excess of 100 licences) and a corporate deployment of a MapX based application. An additional desktop solution is required that involves the development of departmental application similar to the existing corporate offering. With MapInfo's current products / developer tools I have narrowed my choice to two; MapX v5 or MapXtreme2004 NET. Each can be utilised as a component within either VB6 (for MapX) or Visual Studio .NET (for MapxTreme 2004 .NET), but I'm undecided which would be the recommended or preferred route forward. Clearly, there are pros and cons, but also significant issues with both. I am concerned about the vast difference in deployment costs, as the Map X SDK, runtimes and maintenance are approximately 50% cheaper than MapXTreme .NET., but also concerned about starting new development on a platform that maybe unsupported in the near future. I would greatly welcome any comments / feedback and assistance so I can confidently make proposals to my client, and equally importantly, the client has confidence in MapInfo as a long-term vendor that he wishes to commit to. Best regards John Williams JDW Consultant Services Ltd. UK Tel07050 398200 UK Fax 07050 398100 International Tel +44 7768 895605 International Fax +44 8700 513376 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW www.jdwcs.com - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 12544
RE: MI-L MapInfo Pro .NET
I will suggest a rather obvious path to insight. If you would like to start looking into what MapInfo Pro.NET might offer as well as appropriate tools, consider pulling an evaluation copy of MapXtream 4.0. My understanding is that the MapX.NET engine will be more or less common across all of the offerings. http://extranet.mapinfo.com/products/overview.cfm?productid=1849 -Original Message- From: Uffe Kousgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L MapInfo Pro .NET Peter Horsbøll Møller wrote: Is far as I have been informed MapInfo will continue supporting MapBasic in MapInfo Pro .NET, but they will not extend the functionality in MapBasis after the shift to .NET MapInfo Pro .NET has been just around the corner for quite some time now. Will there be a public/closed beta available or any other kind of more detailed information? What is the currently planned release date? Kind regards Uffe Kousgaard www.routeware.dk - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 12148 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 12206
RE: MI-L A Wiki Web for MapInfo and GIS
Bill - Took a quick look at the pending Wiki Web for MapInfo and GIS stuff. I am not quite certain exactly what such a site will or might provide. Maybe you or others on the list might share what they know.. Just trying to get excited. MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: B. Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:17 PM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L A Wiki Web for MapInfo and GIS I was muttering about this a few weeks ago, but now I have a MapInfo/GIS oriented wiki web set up for anyone who wants to try it out. It's at http://www.gisnet.com/phpwiki/index.php?FrontPage. For those who don't know, a wiki web is a place where anyone can anonymously edit any web page whenever they want. Gawd! you may say, That's a prescription for chaos! It can be, yes, but it can also be a place where we can all build a collection of information that answers everyone's need for a commonwealth of knowledge. And anyone/everyone can tweak it to suit his/her needs. Whether it works or not is up to you. I suggest you make your first edits in the SandBox page to see how it works. When you think you know what you're doing, add or modify some pages and add to the content. I have my agenda and have started a few threads, but feel free to add new ones, correct existing ones, or bend them where you think they should go. I have no idea if this will turn into a failed mess or a shiny new net resource. I'm curious to find out... - Bill Thoen - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 12066 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 12069
MI-L MapInfo Pro versus MapX and Image Registrations
I appear to be rubbing up against something that is making me a tad uptight. Seems that if I register an image either manually or via geoTIF under a MapX application when I attempt to access the same but now registered image (it has its TAB) via MapInfo Pro 7.+ I am getting odd projection/datum shifts. In detail I have two geoTIF backgrounds, one at 1:5 mil and a second at 1:250,000. The 1:5mill is visible from 5000k to 100k and the 1:250,000 is visible from 10k to 100K. Both have the same projection. Could the geoTIF registrations be just off a small bit and the transfer over to MIP create the problem? Given we are on the down hill side(?) of moving to the MapInfo Pro/MapX 8.0 version, is this simply a short term nuisance or a pending real problem? More likely its my error? MidNight Mapper PS - The Wiki for MapInfo is rather neat and easy even enough for this bumble fingers to get started on http://www.gisnet.com/phpwiki/index.php?FrontPage - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 12081
RE: MI-L Convert GRIDASCII to MIG
Thanks for your offer, I would be interested. Also FYI we have built a spatial analysis tool for MapInfo Pro. It is designed to be a common spatial operations environment for MapInfo Pro as well as Golden Software's Surfer; MapInfo Pro for its cartography integration and Surfer for its extensive powers in surface generation. If you have interest you can down load a Trialware version of the MapCalc Learner at: MapCalc Learner Trialware can be downloaded from: http://www.farmgis.com/products/software/mapcalc/register.asp Some info on MapCalc's 25 year legacy: http://www-laep.ced.berkeley.edu/classes/la188/fall2002/la188-bb/bio/danatom lin.htm#MAP And tutorials and use examples: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html neil -Original Message- From: Timothy Mashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 7:56 PM To: MapInfo List Subject: MI-L Convert GRIDASCII to MIG Does anyone have a need for a script to convert an ASCII Grid to MapInfo MIG? I've written a program so feel free to email me if you'd like a copy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The format it converts is: ncols nrows xllcorner yllcorner cellsize NODATA_value It's not pretty and in no way guaranteed to work, but I find it useful, and I still can't believe MI Professional doesn't allow ascii grids to be imported. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11965 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11974
RE: MI-L digital camera with GPS - Mapinfo
As you may have already been alerted (thanks to our friends), Red Hen has a decade of experience building spatial imagery (yikes, how time flies). You can pull a MediaMapper 5.1 Trialware from http://www.redhensystems.com . If you are going to buy a new GPS I would suggest that you consider the Garmin Gecko 103. It is very low cost, small, accurate and if you were to do spatial video collection, you can mount it directly to SONY video cameras and it will not only insert camera GPS location but camera heading as well... see RHS's VMSx. (And for those looking to the near-term potential of MapInfo.NET drop us a note of interest and when the time arrives (soon?) we would like to work with you too.) I personally like Nikon digital cameras but really any one of the heaps out there are fine. I would not go much smaller than 2 mega pixel though. An alternative that permits both GPS data logging as well as data entry can be put together with a Bluetooth enabled PDA (Compaq has good models), a Bluetooth GPS (Socket GPS http://www.socketcom.com/product/GP0804-405.asp) and Trimble's EZMap WinCE (http://www.trimble.com/aggps_ezmap.html) field data and scouting product. Try not to freak-out on EXMap's agriculture design. It is very flexible and can be completely reconfigured to capture really any sort of field data inventory quickly including pick lists and the like. MediaMapper is also resold by Trimble Navigation and you should be able to contact one of their international vendors. RHS neil -Original Message- From: Yoshiro Nagao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 5:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L digital camera with GPS - Mapinfo I am looking for a solution in which pictures of patients are taken by a digital camera compatible with hand-held (or builtin) GPS, and these pictures together with patient-related information are linked to Mapinfo, so that by clicking symbols on Mapinfo, these pictures and information could be retrieved. It would be appreciated if you could suggest products of GPS, digital camera, and software. I do no care much about resolution of the photos, but prices do count. I would like to use a handheld GPS, Garmin II, if possible. Thank you. _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11734 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11771
RE: MI-L grid values
Try MapCalc... http://www.farmgis.com/products/software/mapcalc/default.asp -Original Message- From: Nick Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:38 AM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L grid values Hi List, Does anyone know a way of grabbing the values in the .mig file for a Grid thematic? Obviously the Info tool can see them but is there a way to see them as normal attributes? Regards, Nick Hall Salford GIS Ltd - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11569 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11578
MI-L RE: XML and MapInfo
IL - As a rookie on XML it sounds simple (and increasingly loud)... use XML and (most of) the GIS data sharing issues goes away...? And topically to our list and if I get Bill's request right, a XMLed workspace, wouldn't that be a XLM managing and defining a collection of XMLs...? Interesting? I am also curious about your alert regarding the XML vocabulary between the s. Is this a normalization issue or a fixed dictionary one? At one early date in yester years, when both MapX and MapObjects were only 1.0s, I/we were impressed in how closely either's vocabularies were alike. Not prefect but enough to suggest a common code vocabulary (Yeah, right, good luck!)? That foot note on my experience with assumptions of simplicity aside, I guess my excitement is lifted with this XML-stuff. It seems to offer improved methods to ease the endless quest for no-cost and other background layers. If there is such a benefit to a geoXML outline for information distribution, meaning easier and less complex IO conversions, better metadata of all sorts including spatial indices, as well as open readability, then could not our data quest issues evolve to TerraServer-like XML-automations? How these tabular geoXML lists are then indexed to the corresponding TAB, SHP, and other geographic objects alerts my curiosity. I see this XML future as a certainty but for this boy, it remains yet a poorly understood technology shift. Thanks for your insight as to where a value might lurk. I will keep watching. MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: SCISOFT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XML and MapInfo Bill / Neil Bill asked has anyone here developed an XML DTD or xmlschema to describe a MapInfo layout? and In other words, has anyone attempted to convert a workspace to XML? I'm surprised there hasn't been any cross-talk on this. Surely the .NET version of MapInfo will be using the GML (XML recommendation for GIS) from the OpenGIS Consortium? It has been adopted by several vendors. Particularly, it's used in part by webmap servers. Version 3.0 has been released and ratified I think. A couple of MapInfo people have adopted XML for the metadata descriptions. I guess you know them - I think one is a regular correspondent in MapInfo-L. The easiest thing of all is to decide on a DTD or XML Schema for the Metadata and for the Workspace. As with all XML, the first decision is to agree on the vocabulary to be used (the things between the angled brackets - like the pair mapinfo /mapinfo ). My guess is that MapInfo Corporation has long since decided on both of those. The implementation of the .TAB format in XML is also pretty simple - after all, it's just a bit of fairly standard text - !table !version 300 !charset WindowsLatin1 Definition Table Type NATIVE Charset WindowsLatin1 Fields 11 AREA Decimal (16, 3) ; PERIMETER Decimal (16, 3) ; CITIESX020 Decimal (11, 0) ; FEATURE Char (80) ; IDNUM Decimal (5, 0) ; CAPCODE Decimal (2, 0) ; NAME Char (48) ; FIPS Char (5) ; FIPS55 Char (5) ; POP Decimal (11, 0) ; STID Char (7) ; The nice thing about XML is that (for software that supports it) there may be redundant or not-used definitions within it. Particularly, this applies to the (new from v6) .WOR workspace that includes printer information - Set Window FrontWindow() Printer Name HP LaserJet 1100 (MS) Orientation Portrait Copies 1 Papersize 9 I guess what I am getting around to articulating is that it is necessary for a user community or software developer to first agree on the vocabulary (tag names, and what they mean - very precisely) and then it is not a very hard job to describe the various data structures for the 'components' of MapInfo's file formats. You / we / someone should consult with the software vendor / manufacturer (eg, if it's Bill Thoen who is going to make some software, using MapX for example, then it is probably to his advantage to consult with others). My guess is that MapInfo Corporation has decided what it is going to do (though with XML It is not a hard job to change the terminology / vocabulary, the data structures may be set in stone already). There's no point really in developing a suite of MBX for 'older' MapInfo versions - what for? The area that's crying out for XML-ifying is data exchange, though - and that has been reasonably addressed by some 3rd-party data exchange software developers / vendors. The great thing about the use of XML Schemas is that they are self-describing - the data structure and the data are explicit within the file (as you would know, not necessarly the same file, but explicitly by reference URI or by an include, etc). So, Bill - expand on what you want to do with XML in relation to GIS or MapInfo
RE: MI-L XML DTD or xmlschema for a MapInfo layout?
Interesting... it can't be that easy? MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: B. Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:07 PM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L XML DTD or xmlschema for a MapInfo layout? Just curious, but has anyone here developed an XML DTD or xmlschema to describe a MapInfo layout? In other words, has anyone attempted to convert a workspace to XML? Seems to me like the wind is blowing toward XML, but I'm wondering how far the early adopters here have applied it to MapInfo data structures yet. - Bill Thoen - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11051 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 11077
RE: MI-L Network Analysis (Raster)
MapCalc Pro can handle many of this ideas. http://www.farmgis.com/products/software/mapcalc/features.asp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Network Analysis (Raster) Hi everyone, I would like to know whether anyone has done Network Analysis in MapInfo, in particular using raster (grids). In ArcView it is possible to undertake network analysis based on both the vector and raster models if you have the right extensions. I am aware of a package called Routefinder for MapInfo, however on examination it appears to only support the vector model (ie it is geared toward road networks). Using the raster model (ie grids) enables one to use DEM's to generate shortest paths, cost distance type operations, ie the result is predictive rather than using an existing network. Any ideas, or pointers to existing software is much appreciated. Thanks Roger - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 10566
RE: MI-L The Dark Side of GIS - Red Drape over the land
For farmers in the US, Europe, and Australia there is a real and growing fear of the far-off GISers and their societal benefit/cost models that quantify and spatially identify so called non-source-point pollution: soil erosion, manure wash-off, as well as fertilizer, weed and pesticide leakages. Take some public data, some aerial imagery, and add a GISer on a mission to clean up dirty farmers and suddenly appears a GIS red drape layer easily transposed into red tape whenever a farmer relies on public support (subsidy) for his crops. In Australia, the same process goes on for land clearing. For example, a watershed's runoff that supplies water for Des Moines, Iowa is found to be high in atrazine (a weed/herbicide) as well as nitrate (nitrogen fertilizer leakage). Who wants these material in their drinking water? Solution... GIS models tied to small scale soil survey, DEMs with a +/- error greater than the landscape topography of most quarter sections, out of date remote sensing, organized against emerging county PLS ownership listing and the like have been and are used to pin point (source-point) likely sources of these pollutions. Result? Any field with in the watershed that is of a certain soil texture, with excessive slope, and planted to corn becomes a target to regulate - another 85 percent solution. Imagine a farmer, out standing in his field, looking up as a shadow darkens his day, suddenly finding himself in the spider web of this red drape spewing out of the far away GISer's pollution identification model guilty till proven innocent. Reality? No, the aerial image is out of date; he terraced the ground seven years ago. No, he has not used atrazine for five years, here are his records. No, he doesn't use manure; the pig farm across the road went bankrupt three years ago. And no, he has never fall applied nitrogen, it's a dumb practice on these soils, anyone with common sense would know that Here is another angle. These days the seed companies are more likely owned by pesticide and herbicide manufacturers than not. It's a neat arrangement. You build into the genetic character (GMO) of your best yielding varieties resistance to your patented herbicides sold by the same outfit but from another outlet and increasingly the outlet. A real package that offers most farming systems increased productivity. But the companies knows that the seed for wheat and soybeans can be held back and again planted next season and they only license a single usage. So the seed/chemical companies build-in another gene that fluoresces uniquely (they glow if you have the right wavelength sensor) such that fields planted to the line (variety) can be identified from the company's remote sensing/photography plane(s). With in hours, the company gene sheriff has downloaded georeferenced imagery of fluoresced fields, overlain and cross referenced against this season's license records, including roads and ower/tennant names on to his GPS handheld that also generates shortest routes to the next nearest gene rustler where he can issue a non-licensed use of patented gene seed stocks theft report... Far fetched you think? Not at all, its real or soon will be! FYI MidNight Mapper neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9766
MI-L Has SHP shaped up?
The ESRI SHP format seems to surround me everywhere I look. If I could just read in that darned SHP data all my worries and base layers would be solved? And MapInfo has a nifty data in-porter. Sounds simple? Over the years I have discovered some essential truths primarily in that you sort-of-only needed two files a SHP and an associated DBF. The DBF contains a data structure and a SHP that reveals a mapping object. Then punch the Universal Translator engine and moments later conversion had occurred... Most of the time. Most of the time because for those shipping SHP data around telepathic powers became necessary to reveal the projection metadata of these DBF/SHP pairs. No more accurate misplacement... If you only knew the exact projection of the original data. Since ArcGIS8.x, I understand that there is now a third file, the PRJ or projection format that should help automate the direct spatial reference of these files? If so is this PRJ file the missing metadata file for the DBF/SHP duo? Should we generate these PRJ files whenever we export a TAB2SHP? MidNight Mapper - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9719
MI-L TerraServer - Imagry and Contours
I attach a blurb and URL that will lead you to a shareware for identification and download of Microsoft Terraserver images and contours. The cost is $50. MapShots builds software for precision agriculture where the grower combines on tractor GIS, kinematic GPS and automated machine control for farm-by-wire producers. FYI MidNight Mapper aka neil MapShots is making this release of TerraFetch available as shareware. This version of TerraFetch has no limitations. We invite you to download it and give it a try. If it works for you, we would ask you to help support further development of this product by purchasing it using the link below. Thank you. http://www.mapshots.com/downloads/terrafetch.asp - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9421
RE: MI-L Palm Applications
You will not find really any help from MapInfo for Palm other than a JAVA pathway. What direct PDA support they provide is via MapInfo Mobile that requires you to use a run-time design for an application of your own. There are a couple of Palm products that are pretty good but geneally only support a raster backdrop from a GeoTIFF Pro export. Take alook at http://gislounge.com/ll/palmosgis.shtml for a start. If you want Java there are some solutions there as well. You may need to approach MapInfo to qualify to access their TAB structure. A nifty toolset for Palm with ability to use TAB data would be of interest to me. Also a general observation of heads-up feet-down map making on PDAs. PalmOS is easy the far more stable PDA platform as compared to WinCE/PocketPC. I have many years of experience with field GIS inventory. The PocketPC is simply so unstable and requiring reset when the GPS side of things are disrupted, a pen action collides in the CE-ether, or its power too quickly consumed to maintain my enthuasium for the Microsoft solution... maybe someday soon. If you are after mapping on Palm take a look at Garmin's solution. I uderstand that they have a developer toolkit for their latest PalmOS'd receiver. My personal solution for Palms are SONY with Bluetooth communicating to Socket's Bluetooth GPS. Best screen and feature set buy far and the Socket wireless solution makes for easy field use. Just velcro the tiny Socket to a cap and you and go for a walk FYI MidNight Mapper aka neil -Original Message- From: Bob Regier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 5:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Palm Applications Hi All, I'm new to the MapInfo List (but have done some simple Map Basic programs) and would like to develop a couple of applications for a handheld (probably palm). We currently have MapInfo 6 and MapX. Any idea where I should start? Thanks, Bob - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9321 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9322
RE: MI-L Looking for a Drivetime program
Drive time is essentially a friction surface. You can take a look at a MapInfo Pro app that can do what-if analysis based on, in example, various confirgurations of ATM locaions versus streets and their speed classification. You will need to download MapCalc Learner at: http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/register.asp?sm=29 You will also need to download the MapInfo Pro 6.+ app TravelTime Calculator at: http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/downloads.asp?sm=34 A tutorial on setting up Travel Time can also be found at: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html FYI neil -Original Message- From: Phillips, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:00 AM To: 'MapInfo-L' Subject: MI-L Looking for a Drivetime program I need to develop a set of service areas based on drivetime from my road data. Can anyone recommend the appropriate MapInfo product for this task? I do not necessarily need to do routing, just establish service area polygons. Thanks in advance. Frank Phillips Manager of Marketing GIS Vulcan Materials Company (NYSE:VMC) Birmingham, AL, USA - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9224 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9226
RE: MI-L Projections - methods of correction
This short ditty is a gem and should be framed for future reference. Thanks Lars... neil -Original Message- From: Lars V. Nielsen, GisPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:16 AM To: andre boessenkool Cc: Mapinfo-List Subject: Re: MI-L Projections - methods of correction Hi Andre, There are basically two simple options you can employ, dependent on the nature of the problem. #1. If the visual geographic location is right, but the projection is wrong, e.g. if you've digitized some elements into a new table but forgot to set the right projection, a simple Save As with a different coordinate system will do the trick. The coordinates will be recalculated from the old to the new projection. #2. If the coordinates are right, but the projection is wrong, you need to export the table to Mif/Mid, change the COORDSYS clause at the top of the MIF file to the right value, and re-import the table. This will move the objects visually, while maintaining the coordinate values. #2b: If the coordinates are right, but uniformly shifted by an amount, or scaled wrongly (e.g. meters instead of kilometers), you can add a TRANSFORM clause below the COORDSYS ditto, to solve that. The shift/scale is applied during import, and will not be remembered in the table, i.e. it'll not be present if the table is exported again. Please refer to the proper appendicies in the Pro manual for a thorough description of COORDSYS and TRANSFORM. If none of the above situations apply, you need to utilize a more powerful utility to do some rubber sheeting or similar procedures. From what you write, you need to apply method #1. The scaling will fix itself when the data's reprojected. I.e., do a Save As and specifiy Latitude/Longitude (WGS84) as the new projection. If you've already applied method #2 errornously, you need to reverse this proces before you can apply method #1. I.e. back to NonEarth first. Best regards/Med venlig hilsen Lars V. Nielsen GisPro, Denmark http://www.gispro.dk/ http://www.gispro.biz/ - Original Message - From: andre boessenkool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mapinfo-List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: MI-L Projections After a long absence from Mapinfo and the MI crowd I am back with what is probably a basic question: I've started a new map, without paying attention to the projection. All the work I've done has been done in a non-earth environment, although it should have been a proper global projection, like Lat/Long WGS84. Quite a few hours work are in it now, and I want to change from non-earth to WGS84 without doing it all over again, if possible. My table data were interpreted as meters, but should have been interpreted as degrees. When I change to WGS84, my degrees become hopelessly small; what should be read as 16.234 deg. is processed to 0.00016234 deg. Is this a well-known error?? How can it be fixed?? andre boessenkool - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9096 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9107 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 9119
RE: MI-L viewshed or visibility
Visual Analysis http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/VisModel_scenario.htm MapCalc http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/default.asp?sm=27 -Original Message- From: Peter Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:31 PM To: MapInfo Group Subject: MI-L viewshed or visibility Hello. I'm using MI ver 6.0 (soon to aquire 7.5) been asked to do a viewshed analysis- something I haven't done before. eg. Standing at the base of a hill what would I see uphill with trees cut down, trees a certain height, buildnings, etc What data and do I need and special software to perform this analysis? Will MI do the job? thanks in advance. PS (hoping for Boston-Chicago final) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8673 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8677
RE: MI-L MapWorld / MacWorld
My personal bet is there will be a get-together once 8.0/MapX.NET is at or very near release. Why? If there was an artifical delivery date at this time, i.e. a users community conference for say March 2004, then likely the Lets get it wrong on time pressure would likely prevail? As for the Nevada desert in mid-July, only if there is free beer, ice and shady palms! Lastly for the die hards, apparently there is a Partners get together in November back in Troy. MidNight aka neil AGENDA HIGHLIGHTS: Tuesday, November 18th Partner Advisory Counsel (PAC) Meeting (12:30pm-5:00pm)-By Invitation Only, Lunch Provided. Evening Welcome Reception Registration - All attendees (5:30pm - 7:30pm) (PAC members should arrive 15 minutes prior to the start of the meeting. Those attending the Welcome Reception should arrive at 5:30pm. Doors will remain locked until the reception begins.) Wednesday, November 19 (Sessions will run from 8:00am- 5:30pm) Breakfast Welcome Mike Agron, Managing Director CEO Perspective Mark Cattini, MapInfo CEO Navigating the Competitive Landscape: What You Need to Know Joe Francica, Editor-in-Chief and General Manager of Directions Magazine Product Roadmap and Competitive Positioning Doug Gordon, Director of Product Management Anatomy of Selected Customer Wins and Losses Brian Lantz, Vice President of Sales-LBI Americas Kevin Antram, Vice President of Predictive Analytics Business Unit Partner Recognition Dinner Thursday, November 20 (Sessions will run from 8:30am- 5:30pm) Breakfast Shifting Gears: Making Money for Customers, Partners, MapInfo Gavin Lennox, Global Vice President of Sales and Marketing The Real Story Behind .NET Doug Gordon, Director of Product Management Moshe Binyamin, Senior Product Manager What MapInfo Customers Are Saying??? Larry Delaney, Managing Director of Customer Operations Vertical Market Progress, A Year Later Angie Urdanoff, Director of Strategic Marketing and Marketing Management Beth Meurs, Director of Marketing, Predictive Analytics Rotating Sessions (Partners will get to choose at least three) Search Engine Advertising: Generating Leads Through Google miAware Authorized Training Center Program New and Improved Data Products New PSAP Offering MapInfo's Predictive Analytics: AnySite/Target Pro/PSYTE, etc. State and Local Government: Program and Selections Partner Feedback Session: Contracts, Finance, Production More sessions to come... LOCATION: MapInfo Corporate Headquarters One Global View Troy, NY 12180 518.285.6000 HOTEL DETAILS: Since this meeting will be held at our corporate headquarters, we recommend that you stay locally at the Holiday Inn Express. This hotel is very close to MapInfo headquarters and offers a complimentary shuttle to and from MapInfo (please be sure to make arrangements with the Front Desk). A special rate of $84 per night is being offered. The deadline for this rate is November 3, 2003. Please be sure to use reference code MapInfo when making your reservations. Holiday Inn Express 8 Empire Drive Rensselaer, NY 12144 Phone: (518) 286-1011 Conference Rate: $84 per night Reference Code: MAPINFO HOW TO REGISTER: Cost: $200 registration per attendee Click on the link below and complete the short registration form. http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?AH80ALH842KK0GVBCS0KH08K/ Register By: Wednesday, November 5th -Original Message- From: Ian Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'MapInfo-L' Subject: Re: MI-L MapWorld / MacWorld Warren, I share your frustration! However, we could consider other options as well The Burning Man festival wrapped up about a month ago, and from what I hear, folks in that area aren't shy about hosting conferences. Perhaps we could strike up some corporate support and start the Burning Map festival in the Nevada desert - I'm thinking July - ish. - Ian Erickson - Original Message - From: Warren Vick, Europa Technologies Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MapInfo-L' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: MI-L MapWorld / MacWorld I've just been chatting with another -L'er about there being no MapWorld this year. It's usually a very enjoyable event which, despite me being in the wrong continent, is worth the travel effort. As for the reason why there is no event this year... discuss. Anyway, for those who will miss the event and cannot wait for [whenever], I think I have the solution. Well, to give full credit, my MS Outlook spelling checker should receive the praise. When checking a message containing MapWorld, it offers MacWorld. So, that's my suggestion, let's all go to MacWorld! Why not, it's only one letter different and therefore the event must be similar! January 6-9, 2003 San Francisco, CA http://www.macworldexpo.com See you there everyone. :-) Regards, Warren Vick Europa Technologies Ltd. http://www.europa-tech.com You can tell when I'm bored, can't you.
RE: MI-L= Predictive Analysis
Low cost but not free . http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/ Some case studies on spatial analysis http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html -Original Message- From: Hickman, Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L= Predictive Analysis Hello all! Does anyone have and free literature concerning how to perform the 'predictive analysis' within Vertical Mapper 3.0? The help file is a bit vague and I don't have too much time for trial and error. Thanks for your effort ahead of time!! Josh C. Hickman Exploration Geoscientist CNX Gas LLC PO Box 947 Bluefield VA 24605 Work: 276-988-1036 Fax: 276-988-1076 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8503 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8506
RE: MI-L GeoTracker
Likely you will need to go into the setup of the Magellan and turn on additional NMIA strings MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Eric Gagnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:40 PM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L GeoTracker Hi All, Has anyone been able to make a gps work with the Geotracker software (blue marble) provided with the the MI7.0 I have a GPS magellan sportTrak map (wich is set to NMEA) I can see the satellite status but I can't record data in a mapper. Could someone shed some light on this please. TIA Eric -- Eric Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 47°02'57N 67°44'11W - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8494 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8507
RE: MI-L Data Animation
Flicker analysis is an interest as the eye can see things that the hard statistics may not yet be sensitive to. Flickers need bit maps and essentially video processes that accelerate with the ever more powerful video cards. MapInfo Pro may have too much cartographic overhead to provide 10 frames or even two a second? It might be a faster solution to build the individual frames with MapInfo and animate them in another viewing environment. This may be one of those wish list items that may appear in 8.+? Thanks for the opportunity to think out loud MidNight Mapper Aka neil -Original Message- From: Frank Aaron (TX/EUS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Data Animation Has anyone ever attempted to use MapInfo by itself or with MapBasic to animate a change in data - say a shift in actions by a population or select group of individuals. I would really like to show the shift (in position) of a equipotential (data) for several different events. I had read somewhere that MapInfo may support animation but thought that encoding it within MapBasic may enable users unfamiliar with GIS/MI to run/start a MB program. Frank - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8427
RE: MI-L buffer with Z
Try MapCalc. Want to learn more? MapInfo MIG modeling technique as related to up-slope buffering for pioneer road safety is outlined by BASIS at: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Roadbuff_scenario.htm Via MIG and other like file formats you can create the variable width buffers based on adjacent slopes. Flat smooth stream areas many not need the same buffering as areas where the stream is running in rapids. Same goes for a stream that has cut in to the side of the flood plain valley. Its adjacent topography has one generally very steep side and the other gently sloping to level on the floodplain side that can meander through the landscape. MM Aka neil -Original Message- From: Randy Rath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM To: mapinfo Subject: MI-L buffer with Z Hi all, I would like to buffer a stream network using local elevation or the slope distance. The MI buffer tool uses a (cartesian) horizontal radius (X,Y to X1,Y1 = 50m). The spherical selection does not use local elevation data. Has anyone used elevation or slope distance (X,Y,Z TO X1,Y1,Z1 = 50m) to create a buffer? I will most likely use the concentric ring buffer as I will have to create more than 1 buffer. Any advice would be great... Thanks... Randy G. Rath GIS Specialist Lake George Association - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8290
RE: MI-L buffer with Z
You can do this and other non-linear buffering requirements with MapCalc Learner or Professional. You can automatically insert the resulting MIG, contour line or boundary TAB, and/or cell centroid values into MapInfo Pro 6.+ by a single send to selection in MapCalc. Learn More A variable Z buffer example calculation with MapCalc can be read at: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Roadbuff_scenario.htm In this case, a variable buffer is calculated for uphill terrain steepness as could be related to landslide issues. Same generalized method can be used around streams where a buffer needs to be established to protect stream banks. Steep landscapes need greater buffering than more level ones when the two banks are relatively different. FYI MidNight Mapper Aka neil http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/default.asp?sm=27 -Original Message- From: Randy Rath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM To: mapinfo Subject: MI-L buffer with Z Hi all, I would like to buffer a stream network using local elevation or the slope distance. The MI buffer tool uses a (cartesian) horizontal radius (X,Y to X1,Y1 = 50m). The spherical selection does not use local elevation data. Has anyone used elevation or slope distance (X,Y,Z TO X1,Y1,Z1 = 50m) to create a buffer? I will most likely use the concentric ring buffer as I will have to create more than 1 buffer. Any advice would be great... Thanks... Randy G. Rath GIS Specialist Lake George Association - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8253
RE: MI-L vertical mapper 3.0 and slope calculations
For spatial calculations like slope there are actually several ways of making the determination depending on adjacent cell values (n=8): fitted, maximum, minimum, and average. Fitted is essentially a regression that results in the smallest residual error predictor, Max and Min are helpful for certain issues in more complex usage of slope in modeling, and average is just that. In some cases, smoothing of the elevation or Z value prior to calculation of slope can alter slope in both meaningful (reduction of noise) and in un-intended or secondary ways (roughness indices or rate of change of the rate of change). Smoothing is also a function of point data density, grid size, and the surface generator as well as the grid based smoothing or scan function. The difference may not be in the VM slope calculator but in the surface generation model (or its assumptions) and/or grid size. FYI Neil Want to learn more? Mapping Surface Flows and Pooling http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Pooling_scenario.htm Analyzing Precision Ag Data by J Berry A Hands-on Case Study in Spatial Analysis and Data Mining http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/AnalyzingPAdata/ Precision Farming Primer by J. Berry http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/pfprimer/Default.html http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/pfprimer/TofC/Detailed_TofC.htm MapCalc Learner's Home Page http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/default.asp?sm=27 -Original Message- From: Miles Da Costa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:15 AM To: MapInfo List (E-mail) Subject: MI-L vertical mapper 3.0 and slope calculations Hello, has anyone compared slope values generated with the new version of vertical mapper 3.0. to previous versions? I compared 3.0 to 2.5 and found that values generated by version 3.0 had a mean difference of + 2.5 degrees. This is a very significant change for us as slope is fundamental to calculating harvesting costs and our field people tend to agree with the previous values. The slope raster was based on the same input elevation model so all I can gather is that the slope algorithm is different (I think this has been alluded to in the past). My question is, what have others found, and which slope algorithm is the better representation of the ground? yours, Miles da Costa Senior GIS Coordinator Hancock Victorian Plantations Pty Ltd 3rd Floor, 517 Flinders Lane Melbourne, VIC, Australia, 3000 +61 3 9289 1414 (w) +61 3 9629 1552 (fax) - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8241
MI-L Map Algebra Theory and Dana Tomlin
For some further background on spatial analysis and its related Map Algebra roots you should take a quick read at: http://www-laep.ced.berkeley.edu/classes/la188/fall2002/la188-bb/bio/danatom lin.htm#MAP -Original Message- From: Jakob Lanstorp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:03 AM To: Stephen Dunn Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MI-L Vertical Mapper - Want info about theory. Stephen, Try the Free internet book by Joseph K. Berry: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/MapAnalysis/Default.html and the book: Burrough, P.A., McDonnell, R.A. Principles of Geographical Information Systems. Paperback - 346 pages 2nd Ed (5 February, 1998) Clarendon Press; ISBN: 0198233655 HTH, Jakob http://www.lanstorp.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: MI-L Vertical Mapper - Want info about theory. Hello, I am interested in using Vertical Mapper in connection with Resource Allocation and analysis of Hot-Spots. I'm fine with using it technically, but I'd be interested to know more about the theory behind it - advantages and disadvantages of different modelling methods and which to use. Specifically, it would be nice to be able to validate a particular model in a specific case, and know when it's useful or when it's just pretty pictures. These is some stuff in the manual, but I'd be interested in knowing more. Can anyone advise on sources for this? Anything on-line and free is particularly useful, but books as well would be helpful. Thanks, Stephen _ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8218 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8232 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8233
MI-L Spatial Analysis - A leaning site
As many of you may know I have been a proponent within this list of grid-based or raster spatial analysis for many years. Agriculture has a leading but not unique interest spatial relationships via it's agro-ecological study of farm field landscapes. Many of the methods and utilities needed by that interest are as valuable if not more so in other areas of GIS interest. From what I can glean from the recent demonstration of the soon to be released MapInfo Pro 7.5, MapInfo too is addressing the interest in grid-space data mining to: tease-out sales-sheds, evaluate banking services access, establish regional insurance risks, identify pollution distribution, assist in crime pattern identification, enhance civil and national defense, and many more. Dr Joe Berry has placed several extensive self-paced training courses on the WEB for any interested in the methods to take GIS insights into these other dimensions. While both he and I have interest in a related tool, MapCalc, the methods and case studies are instructive to ESRI Spatial Analyst users as well as MapInfo Pro users via Vertical Mapper, Surfer, MapCalc, or Grid Analyser. The site below was set up by Dr. Berry for the USDA Service Agencies National Geospatial Workshop this past June. It includes PowerPoint presentation, slides, and step-by-step tutorials for all major aspects of grid-space GIS methods. http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/USDAworkshop/ FYI MidNight Mapper aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8230
MI-L MapInfo 7.5 Product Briefing
I was going to sit up and try to listen in to the MapInfo Professional 7.5 product briefing at 1:30pm on the 26th but given I am in Australia I am going to bed so I have energy to get my kids off to school tomorrow. Any chance one of you attending or listening in on the meeting could leave some notes/minutes on the list for reading and rumination? I understand Moshe, 7.5's Product Manager, will be fielding answers to questions posted on this list(?) in the afternoon, say 4pm Troy time. Many thanks, MidNight (almost) Mapper neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8144
MI-L November Developers Conference
What is the general info on the up coming Developer Conference? Location and dates? Any other stuff of interest? neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8126
RE: MI-L Automatic Distance Calculation between a group of selected points in MI
I too am interested on this tool that might connect the distance dots in vector space. I do have a question. Is the distance as the crow flies or one that could be circuitous meaning if you can not fly nor walk on water the only real distance of issue is/are the shortest path(s). This would be a useful tool for all you out there that are interested in MIG surfacing and the spatial resolution of the under lying data points. Sort of an how far am I from everywhere from anywhere? Sounds like an impossible solution. Its not... At least in raster space. http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html -Original Message- From: Cameron Crum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:47 PM To: Leighton Tong Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MI-L Automatic Distance Calculation between a group of selected points in MI I don't know of one, but would be happy to make one for you. Contact me offline and we can disscuss if you can't find a quicker solution.I tried responding to you directly, but your mail bounced. Regards, Cameron Leighton Tong wrote: I am looking for either direction, help or MBX application that will automatically provide me with a distance calculation between selected points. I am using MapInfo Pro 6.0 and would like to be able to select a group of points that are geocoded and have MI look up the longitude/latitude of each point, and calculate the distance between all of the selected points. I.e. Site 1 to Site 2 is x miles Site 1 to Site 3 is y miles Site 1 to Site 20 is z miles So on and so forth... Is there an application, plug-in or query that will allow me to do this? If this is possible, I would then be able to use the output in another (unrelated to MI) application and save a lot of manual work. After all, isn't that the reason why we use these tools? :0) Thanks! Leighton Tong RF Engineer UbiquiTel PCS - Central Valley A Sprint PCS Network Partner 559-307-1310 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8080 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8082 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8102
RE: MI-L Seeking XML Parser DLL for MapBasic
Interesting component. Could you share what you may learn? Should we be more interested in a .NET variety? neil -Original Message- From: Bill Thoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:13 AM To: MapInfo-L Subject: MI-L Seeking XML Parser DLL for MapBasic Does anyone know where I can find a DLL containing functions to parse XML files that can be called from a MapBasic application? - Bill Thoen - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8054 - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8056
RE: MI-L SUM: External Subroutines and Functions
I have a general question that one of you with insight might answer or speculate on? As time goes by and we approach the promised land of MapInfo Pro 8.0 with its .NET MapX design, how will that future likely unfold on this same issue and question as regards the promise 8.0 and beyond? There is a promise that 8.0 will maintain all of our collective MapBasic legacies? Any takers? neil -Original Message- From: Ian Tidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:18 AM To: MapInfo-L; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L SUM: External Subroutines and Functions Thanks to everyone who replied. The simple answer is No. You can run an executable from MapBasic, but you can't directly call a specific function in an executable (you can't treat an EXE like a DLL). The work around was to re-write the EXE and compile it as a DLL (something that I was trying to avoid, but it is done now and works). Special thanks to Martin Higham Peter Horsbøll Møller Uffe Kousgaard Cheers Ian Ian Tidy GIS Administrator Works Asset Napier City Council mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.napier.govt.nz ## Attention: This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. Any information provided is given in good faith. However unless specifically stated to the contrary, Napier City Council accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any action taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you received this e-mail message in error, please notify us immediately and erase all copies of this message and attachments. Thank you. ## - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 7913
RE: MI-L Converting grids (or a table of points, containing x-,y- and z-values) into tables of polygons???
You may want to consider MapCalc Professional. It provides cross integration between its spatial analysis features and MapInfo Pro 6.x+ as well as Surfer 6.x+. You may down load a MapCalc Learner for evaluation via: http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/default.asp?sm=27 A lengthy set of case studies on how to generate the contours/regions of interest may also be found at: http://www.rockware.com Just look for MapCalc -Original Message- From: Alex Mercator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L Converting grids (or a table of points, containing x-,y- and z-values) into tables of polygons??? Dear colleagues! I created a DEM in Surfer 6.0, calculated the slope-orientation and slope-inclination and exported the file as a delimited ASCII-file. Then i created a table of points in MapInfo Professional 7.0. In the browser, I've got columns for easting, northing, elevation, orientation and inclination. In MIP 7.0, it is possible to create grids. But, I'd like to create tables, presenting elevation, orientation or inclination as polygonal areas. E.g. : areas with altitudes of 0-50, 50-100, 100-50 meters etc. or areas with slope-inclinations between 0-3, 3-6, 6-9 etc. degrees should each be represented as polygons. Does anybody know how to do so? Or is there a possibility to convert grids into polygons? Do I need other software or are there any mbx-applications existing? I'd be really happy if somebody out there could give me a tip! Thank you so much for your assistance! Alex Mercator (Geographer) - Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 8010
SUM: MI-L I want a new format..... Or insight
Well I guess I am not alone on the general frustration of increasing dealing with .SHPs But there may be some good news...? Just what is a WMS or WFS? I just heard yesterday about WMS - Web Map Services and WFS - Web Feature Services as the new common formats for making data available over the web. ArcExplorer and ArcMap evidently support this already, with MI to offer compatability with 7.5 (possibly) or 8.0 (definitely). Could this be what you are looking for? Cheers M and some other comments . Buy design? - no internal info on projection nor datum, all geographical attributes default to black lines, black dots, and white interiors. Is this buy design? Yes, it is by really bad design (if you think about how young the format is, you must think how intelligent the developers were). Shape is an extremely stupid format, no projection info, no colors, no text etc. Just points, lines and polygons. In addition it's working with DBASE version 0.1, means column names are limited to 10 chars and all uppercase (just ULTRA_UGLY). data environment, I was wondering if some of you with dual MapInfo and ESRI citizenship, might clue me/us in on how to better deal with .SHP data? Newer Shape versions come along with two additional files with the extensions prj and xml containing first the projection and second some metadata. Those are, as far as I know, only supported by V8 of all the ArcStuff ... If you count as well the indexing files (sbn and sbx) it totals up to 7 files per layer (more to come?). Almost as ugly as ArcInfo coverages which are even directories containing a gazillion of files (!) ... And if you look further, ESRI has a very nice collection of formats itself: Coverages, E00 (pure fortran!), Generate, Shape, Personal Geodatabase (Access), Geodatabase (SDE), ArcSDE V2.x, ArcSDE V3.x/8.x and others and probably more to come. And i.e. the project files (workspaces) are binary (holy MapInfo ASCII- Workspaces and holy ASCII MIF/MID which allows even humans to fiddle around if needed ...). At the end there is only one answer to that: FME (www.safe.com). and as all ways a voice of sanity in the confusion ... Is a retarded .SHP format just the millstone we, as MapInfo users, must carry? I imagine that ArcGIS users must have the same problem. If there's no coordinate system info associated with a SHP file, how do they get it georegistered correctly when loaded into an ESRI product? IMHO, it's a mistake not to include coordinate system information with spatial data. As to the lack of font, symbol, pen and brush styles, I think ESRI is correct about separating those from the geographic elements. A geographical entity logically has a one to many relationship with graphic styles, so it makes sense to me that graphic style is not a fixed part of the SHP file data. Information about that probably belongs in a data file as one or more attributes so it can be readily accessed by the DBMS query engine. These same data could be accessed in a similar fashion by a thematic mapping function to apply graphic styles. Externalizing graphic information makes legend creation more modular as well. Portability issues are simplified too when style information is not buried inside a map object's definition. Regarding the SHP file's becoming the de-facto data interchange standard, all I can say is that I'm glad ESRI published the specs. It makes a good point about open standards. They were savvy about that too. Now all the government agencies that provide data to the public and use ESRI's software have no ethical or political problems providing data only as SHP files -- that format is an open standard. This provides govt. agencies with less reason to develop their own open standards (note the USGS has even abandoned their ill-fated SDTS standard in favor of using ESRI's ArcGrid format in distributing NED data), and they become increasing dependent on ESRI software, because that's the only one that easily produces the de-facto standard. This bias cascades through the industry and ESRI multiplies their advantage. Soon the govt. agencies will no longer have the people and resources to maintain independent standards, and they'll just buy their solutions -- from ESRI. -- - Bill Thoen As far as I know you just have to live with those issues. If you are lucky the data provider will have created a seperate *.PRJ file that sits alongside the SHP and contains projection info. This is one that MapInfo can work with and also the Universal Translator writes out when creating a shapefile from MapInfo. Thats the first bit - and a crucial one to be sure - how many hours have I wasted trying to sleauth out the coordinates from a shapefile ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@#$). Usually I preview it in ArcView or ArcExplorer and have enough sense to guess from a sample coordinate pair. Alternately you fish through a seperate metadata file to find the projection and coordinate info. Or you
RE: MI-L looking for solution of Flow path analysis in Mapinfo V.6.5
Please take a look at Mapping Surface Flows and Pooling via MapCalc: http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Pooling_scenario.htm This example deals with flow concentration and pooling on a farm fields but the concept is right for your question. If the example laid out in the link above is of interest you can down load a trialware version of MapCalc Learner via: http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/default.asp?sm=25 MapCalc has cross-integration with both MapInfo for grids (MIG), contours, and point estimates. It also is compatible with Surfer 7.x+ (http://www.goldensoftware.com). Please let me know if we can help further... Red Hen -Original Message- From: ramakanth boga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MI-L looking for solution of Flow path analysis in Mapinfo V.6.5 Dear All, First of all i want to introduce myself, this is ramakanth boga. i am working in Durham city council. we are developing source pathway receptor model for contaminated land. i am facing some problem when i was developing for Surface water model. i want to check for Check for Runoff affecting the surface water feature from the Source of contamination. Can any one aware of Flow path analysis in Mapinfo. i would be happy if any one solve my problem in checking the Runoff for Surface water feature. looking for your favour. ramakanth boga Durham city council. - Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 7823
MI-L I want a new format..... Or insight
I was considering some of the issues as regards access to increasingly free spatial data like www.geodata.gov and a host of others like it. It seems so simple. The one issue that bothers me most in the lure of free data (and/or conversation with ArcGIS projects), is the de-facto condition/standard that all of this available data is constructed in .SHP format. With MapInfo Pro 7.0 and MapX conceptually all you do is point at the .SHP file and it loads - well sort of. Something is missing. It seems that the public form of SHP that we increasingly must deal with is deficient in all sorts of ways - no internal info on projection nor datum, all geographical attributes default to black lines, black dots, and white interiors. Is this buy design? Given that we MapInfo'ers must correspond in an increasingly ESRI-centric data environment, I was wondering if some of you with dual MapInfo and ESRI citizenship, might clue me/us in on how to better deal with .SHP data? To make advantage on .SHP data, do we simple accept that it's generally free character is just good enough to overcome the frustration of the absence of necessary metadata? Is a retarded .SHP format just the millstone we, as MapInfo users, must carry? In my case, all of the additional detail needed to reliably depend on SHP importation (the necessary projection info is never readily available) creates enough FUD (Hmmm, things are not lining up as expected - I guess my GPS data must be wrong?) that I wonder if I too should just jump the fence as well? The grass may not be greener? I understand there are some other issues with .SHP that are not generally well understood like the difference between a 2D and 3D .SHPs as well as some detailing in the use of the DBF for attributes? Are there other .SHP issues we need to smarten up on? Should MapInfo add an Appendix to 7.5 and beyond to explain how to adjust a .SHP definition of our Nation and World? MidNight Mapper Aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 7808
MI-L Geodata.gov ?
In the case you may not have heard. For all of you that may have missed the recent announcement of the One Stop Initiative for geospatial data and ESRI's coup, its worth your time to take a cruse at http://www.geodata.gov. Just get your SHP file importer all tuned-up and you have hundred of gigabytes of public and potentially private GIS data, orthophotos, statistics, and more at your finger tips June 6, 2003 Geospatial One-Stop Board Releases Decision on Portal The Geospatial One-Stop Board of Directors unanimously decided on a one year strategy to implement an Internet Portal that will allow easy access and integration of digital geographic information from multiple sources. The Board agreed to the implementation strategy on June 4, 2003 following Portal demonstrations by teams from the Open GIS Consortium (OGC) and Environmental Systems Research Institute (ESRI). When launched officially on June 30, the portal will serve to engage a broad community of current GIS users and attract new users seeking easy access to geographic information about their community. The Board of Directors represents State, Local, Tribal and Federal agencies using geospatial information to improve government services and support decision making.' geodata.gov is a web-based portal for one-stop access to maps, data and other geospatial services that will simplify the ability of all levels of government and citizens to find geospatial data and learn more about geospatial projects underway.' geodata.gov is part of the Geospatial One-Stop initiative, one of the 24 OMB electronic-government initiatives that will enhance government efficiency. The geodata.gov portal will accelerate the development and implementation of the National Spatial Data Infrastructure (NSDI) and includes state, local and tribal governments along with the private sector and academia as participants. In order to get started, please use our Quick Start Guide. Now if ESRI only was a public company MidNight Mapper Aka neil - List hosting provided by Directions Magazine | www.directionsmag.com | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message number: 7718
RE: MI-L mobile system recommendations - PalmOS or WinCE?
have no fear, they are a relatively small operation with less than 20 employees, and even with a turnover of up to 10 tonne of meat per week, the roos are still increasing in numbers faster than they can be culled. but it's a very difficult and frustrating job driving around slowly 10 hours a night in the middle of nowhere (this is as remote as it gets), and i want to do what i can to make it easier for them. ash -Original Message- From: Karl Kliparchuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 30 May 2003 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MI-L mobile system reccomendations Hi. Another Aussie built software is Discover Mobile by ENCOM. It has been very well received here in Canada to companies that I have shown it to. www.encom.com.au is their website. We also have some info on our website, www.mcelhanney.com under Software Discover. Karl -Original Message- From: Neil Havermale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 30 May 2003 11:27 AM To: 'Simmonds, Ashley (PTB)'; 'Mapinfo List (E-mail)' Subject: RE: MI-L mobile system recommendations - Aussi, Aussi, Aussi! Save your money and take a look at Oziexplorer for the software (http://www.oziexplorer.com/). Aussi! Aussi! Aussi! I am totally amazed and awed by its ease-of-use, quality, completeness and low cost. Down load a demo version and give a go yourself. It can reside in either a Windows laptop or on a WinCE PDA. Best solution is both - the PDA in the field and the PC to manage background maps as well as store hunting tracks and the like. Also you can pick up heaps of Australian data for it at real bargains versus the absurd cost demands from commercial GIS outfits. And doubly neat is its selectable night-vision color scheme. As far as thermal sights and radar like remote sensing, I doubt you'll find such a solution. (As an old outfitter from the Wyoming Bridger National Forests, your quest for thermal mapping leaves me wondering about the Australian sport of night hunting, but I am just a new immigrant) As for the platform, I suggest a Compaq PocketPC 3970 with Bluetooth to match a Socket Bluetooth GPS. This design essentially looses the cables that seem to always be in the way or disconnected at the wrong moment. Been at this heads-up feet-down mobile mapping for better than a decade now and the Bluetoothed GPS is the best innovation other than sub-$500 costs for 12-channel 8m RMS SA=OFF receivers! You can order the Socket Bluetooth GPS directly via (http://www.socketcom.com/product/gps.asp) As for ruggedness, dust, and hard use the issue becomes one of trade off. The hardened PDA you seek like a Trimble GeoXT is $US5,000 ($8,000AUD+) but you can float down a river with it and its GPS is darned good as are its all day batteries (http://www.trimble.com/geoxt.html). Or you could risk the purchase of several less hardened $1200AUD iPAQs 3970s if your hunters crush one or two... Oh, and lastly, the Oziexploer noted above also has the ability to download and upload background maps to most Garmin and Magellan handhelds so you could eliminate the PDA completely. As an alternative PDA software you might also take a look at EzMAP from Trimble (http://www.trimble.com/aggps_ezmap.html). It is designed for aggies and crop scouts using on any WinCE PDA but if you take a moment and actually consider it you'll quickly realize that at $395US it is an incredible tool that makes other ArcGIS and MapInfo PDA solutions over-costed and second place IMHO. Good hunting... MidNight Mapper aka neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 30 May 2003 10:45 AM To: Simmonds, Ashley (PTB) Cc: MapInfo Listers Subject: RE: MI-L mobile system reccomendations I concur! Have a look at GBM Mobile. Out-of-the-box solution = faster, lower risk, known cost. Cheers, David Jerrard -Original Message- From: Landmark Geographic Solutions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 30 May 2003 1:51 PM To: Simmonds, Ashley (PTB) Cc: MapInfo Listers Subject: RE: MI-L mobile system reccomendations hey ashley, I currently have a Dell axim PDA with a holux GPS ultra cf card. I am evaluating a Australia based company mapping software called GBM Mobile. The company is called Exa-min technologies, I am still evaluating the product. It is currently working very well. Acquisition time is great and accuracy is very well. I am not sure the conversion from Canadian dollars to the Australian dollar but the system cost just under $2000. LGS -Original Message- From: Thomas Colley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2 June 2003 9:38 AM To: 'Simmonds, Ashley'; MapInfo-L List Input (E-mail) Subject: MI-L mobile system reccomendations Ash, You're budget suggests you'll have to keep it simple and cheap. For PDA options, you should check out Field Access Systems (02 4655 2853) who traded for a while as Fieldvision (see http://www.fieldvision.com.au), and Open Spatial Technology (http
