Re: [MBZ] Winter tires/wheels

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 11:07 AM 10/14/2009, Donald H. Snook wrote:
I found some snow tires mounted on BMW wheels for my car.  I 
currently have 235/60/16 performance tires on my car.  I found a set 
of nearly new Dunlop winter tires mounted.  They are 
235/55/17.  According to an online tire diameter calculator I found 
that represents a difference of only .26% in diameter.  So, I think 
it will be okay to use these.


 (snip)

 In my experience the tire with the wider footprint (here the 
235/55/17) is going to be less suitable for winter.  Maybe the 
different tread compound in the winter tire helps offset the effect, 
but I notice narrow tires tend to dig in and bite while the fat ones 
float on the surface and spin.  I would go for as narrow a winter 
tire as BMW recommends.  Easier to put chains on too.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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of childhood.




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[MBZ] OT CO2 sequestration (was 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 02:30 PM 11/24/2009, Peter wrote:

   (snip)


 ...who wants a volcano of CO2 snow when the underground storage
blows out (as it will, surely).


 My understanding is that the CO2 is supposed to mostly bond 
with what they are injecting it into.  Or at least that's the plan 
locally where they are injecting an underlying coal seam as part of a 
coal bed methane extraction project.  If it all works they will 
enhance the methane production (this is the "damp gas" of the old 
days which is being captured now rather than vented) and sequester 
some CO2 in the process.  Here is a slide show on the project:


   http://www.rpsea.org/forums/uncon_winschel.pdf

 The North Site is on my place.  CO2 injection started this 
summer, no problems yet.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] OT CO2 sequestration (was 240D Diesel Hydrogen hybrid)

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At 06:27 PM 11/26/2009, mao wrote:

Dave wrote:
> My understanding is that the CO2 is supposed to mostly bond with what
> they are injecting it into.

Isn't CO2 fairly stable?
i.e. how will it bond to anything if it is quite stable already?


 I am told he coal surface is more attractive to the CO2 than 
the methane that is there now.  The displaced methane is sucked out.


 One of the more interesting effects of the procedure is that 
the CO2 injected coal seam expands significantly, something on the 
order of 10% by the time it has reached its holding capacity of 
CO2.  They have installed several dozen super precise tilt meters in 
the local injection area to see if they can detect the size and shape 
of the bulge at the surface.


 The local sequestration project is about a $13 million deal, 
80% funded by tax money.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Home generator

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:13 PM 11/28/2009, Dan wrote:

I just had someone in the business point this out to me:
http://www.generlink.com/about_generlink.cfm
A nice and very safe setup for a portable generator that eliminates 
the hassle of additional wiring and a transfer switch.  Don't know 
what it costs, but it's got to be cheaper than other means of 
connecting a portable generator.


 This is a simple solution   www.interlockkit.com I made one 
from scrap materials using their concept.



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Re: [MBZ] Home generator

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 11:59 AM 11/29/2009, Larry T wrote:

As someone who is electrically challenged, is the <> 
you made from scrap materials basically a metal plate


 Not exactly.  Plastic sign material with pivoting levers.  My 
fancy design which uses less breaker box space.


 that only allows the generator circuit breaker switch to be turned 
on when the main house breaker is in the off position?


 Yes.

I know there's more to it than that  - the generator CB must be 
installed for instance.


Is that basically it?


 Yes.  If you find your house breaker box on the interlockkit 
site and read the kit installation instructions, I think that's about it.


 I have our generator in an out building fed by a 220 line from 
the house main breaker box.  When the regular power goes off I throw 
the main power switch in the house box to disconnect the power 
company and then back feed from the generator.


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Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel supplement

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:43 PM 1/11/2010, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
As far as power service products go, all I can say is that the 
Diesel 911 saved my a$$ three times last winter when I got 
gelled.  Everytime it literally de-gelled the fuel and got me 
started again.  One time it was literally stuck on the side of an 
interstate gelled up and this stuff got me going.  I now use the 
stuff in the white container as an antigel and always keep  diesel 
911 in my trunk.


  I have not yet had such an event with my 83 300SD but I 
recently changed fuel suppliers and I am concerned this may 
happen.  When you were stuck on the side of the interstate and the PS 
Diesel 911 got you going again did you have to do anything more than 
pour it in the tank and wait?  How long?  I can see how that would 
work if the problem was gelled fuel blocking the tank strainer.  I 
take it that is the typical problem?  That is, you don't have to 
worry about the line from the tank to the engine compartment?


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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[MBZ] OT - Happy dog picture

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

  Your smile for the day.  Attached is a photograph of the 
family dog returning home with scavenged prize of the season.  This 
is a very happy dog.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] 126 rubber bushing removal - success!

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Some of you may remember a couple months ago I wrote of my 
efforts to remove a front suspension bushing on my 83 300SD.  I have 
attached the picture I sent then, showing the cage of sash weights 
hanging from the bushing.  No joy.


 As it happened shortly the weather turned cold.  I don't drive 
the MB in the winter anyway so I left it on the stands for warmer 
weather tinkering.  A few days ago I checked it and found the bushing 
had emerged perhaps an eighth inch.  Levering and prying yielded no 
more.  I added more weights for a total of 90 pounds.  The next day 
when I checked it had come out!  That is what is shown in the second 
picture.  Rubber is weird stuff.  This bushing had been partially 
degraded by diesel fuel leaking on it.


 The last picture shows my homemade hole puller device I have 
found useful for such situations.  Squeezing the U - shaped wire 
until the bent ends come together allows it to go into the hole in 
the bushing.  Released they will spring out.  To keep the ends spread 
inside the bushing it is usually best to tap in something like the 
wooden plug shown.  Then you have a loop you can pull on.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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 That was well!  and he stamped hoof.


  
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[MBZ] Fwd: OT Farm Tractor For Sale in WV

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Thought I would give you fellows the first chance at my grand 
old IH 674D with IH 2255 loader.  This machine has given me good 
service for 20 years.


The first owner parked it outside on a hill above a steel mill 
for 15 years.  Hence the lack of original paint.  His widow said 
he had planned to build a shed for it but was always working 
overtme at the mill.


 Spear, bucket, weight rack, tire chains, manuals.  4400 
hours.  The engine is worn - low oil pressure after two 
hours.  $3500.  304 686 3797.


 Needs a sleeve kit, maybe a cam bearing or such if you want to 
work it all day in hot weather.  I have reduced the price 
accordingly, compared to the more typical $6000 - $8000 for a 
pretty one of this model.  DIY and you will have a good old tractor 
cheap.  Can deliver if you are within 150 miles.


 I have a new 4WD cab tractor.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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[MBZ] Cheap preglow relay fix

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Recently when I went to start my 83 SD I had no dash glow 
light and the engine wouldn't fire.  I traced the problem to the 
preglow relay (black plastic box about 3"X3"X"2" on the fender 
behind driver's side headlight).  There was voltage accross the 80 
amp strip fuse but nothing was getting to the glow plugs.


  I took off the relay, removed the 4 screws at its edges and 
slid the contents out.  A solenoid and a circuit board which looked 
mostly OK except for two little canisters that had leaked out beige 
goo.  Brother Rusty prices this relay at $189.


 When I googledpregow relay bypass   I found some have 
replaced it with a fender mounted starter relay of the Ford type 
actuated by momentary contact button switch. The attached pictures 
show my adaptation of this approach - I left the original relay there 
to use the wiring connecters and 80 amp fuse.  (Before I put it back 
together I rigged it so it would always be on.)


 $14.99 for the solenoid, $4.99 for the switch, both from 
Autozone.  You lose the dash light function.  But it is easy to start 
counting seconds when you hear that SNACK sound.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] 126 rubber bushing removal

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 The other day I noticed what at first I thought was a stick 
hanging from under the front of my 83 300SD.  In fact in turned out 
to be a strand of a rubber body mount that had degraded from a long 
term soaking of diesel fuel   The cause was a slow leak in the 
cigar hose return line above it.  The slightly uphill and tilted 
position where the car was parked put the forward mount of the 
driver side brake support strut carrier in a place of 
saturation.  The rubber bushing appeared to have turned into black jello.


R and R of this bushing is set forth on p. 320 of Vol. 1 of 
the 126 service manual.  It involves removal of the brake strut and 
carrier mount.  Then clamping the carrier in a vice and use of a 
special tool to press out and in the bushing.


 That seemed a bit more than necessary in this 
case.  Instead, I have run the car up on ramps and am attempting to 
pull out the bushing in place as shown in an attached picture.  Those 
are sash weights in a cradle of fence wire.  I have been adding 
weights for several days.  50 lbs for the last 24 hours with no 
movement.   I tried modest application of heat from a propane torch 
with no result.  (It is a scary place to use an open flame, 
especially after a fuel leak.)  I guess the next step is to try to 
drill out some of the rubber to weaken it.


The fact that the bushing is in there so firmly makes me 
think the rubber hidden in the carrier is still viable.  So I am 
thinking I may just put the bolt back in it and try running it a 
while to see if anything loosens up.  Anyone BTDT?  Any tricks 
for  rubber bushing removal?  Thanks.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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 Where good and bad are mingled every which way,
 And ears are lent to any sophistry
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Lines

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 05:18 PM 3/7/2012, Mitch Haley wrote:
Use two wrenches on the cooler lines. One to turn the nut and the 
other to hold the fitting on the filter housing or especially 
radiator steady. Situate the wrenches so that you can loosen the nut 
by squeezing the two wrenches together, then you won't put any 
twisting action on the fitting that isn't supposed to move. Last 
thing you want to do is twist the fitting out of the radiator.


 I remember doing the counter holding and penetrating oil tricks 
on the oil cooler lines on my 83 SD and still the cooler fitting was 
messed up when the hose coupling finally came off.  Appeared to be 
galvanic corrosion between the aluminum fitting and the steel hose 
coupling - sort of lumpy crud that when removed showed the fitting to 
be badly pitted.  I couldn't get it to not seep oil at the lower 
cooler connection.  I bought a  second hand oil cooler by mail and 
found the lower fitting corroded in the same way.  Salt spray I 
guess.  Finally just slathered JB Weld on what was left of the 
threads of the original cooler fitting and that stopped the 
leak.  (And now I have a spare cooler for next time.)



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] OT 12v dc to 120v ac heating element?

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 One of you technical guys must know this.

 Say you get your diesel tractor suck in the woods a long way 
from the 120 volt ac outlet that would normally power its 800 watt 
engine preheater.  Night is coming.   It will be very cold in the 
morning when you return with chains, come-a-longs, etc. to extract 
the tractor.  Let's say you happen to have a charged 12v car battery 
that could carried to the scene.  If the + and - poles of the battery 
were wired into the slots of the 120 v ac plug would the heater work 
without damaging anything?  Would it warm the engine up in 20 or 30 
minutes like it does on 120 v ac?


  I tried researching this on the web but all I get is a lot of 
talk about the right size inverter needed.  Would an inverter be 
required just to run a resistance element?  Anyone BTDT?  Thanks.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 05:34 PM 4/9/2012, Craig wrote:

A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
liked about various areas.

With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
what others said about other areas of the country.

Can we have that conversation again, please?


 I really like West Virginia, or at least the part I am familiar 
with, the northern panhandle where the SW corner of  Pennsylvania fits.


 My wife and I escaped our government jobs and the Washington DC 
area in 1981.  We found that six hours from DC the price of rural 
land dropped dramatically.  So we bought an old farm here outside 
Cameron WV. I am technically a hay farmer but mainly we have been 
just taking it easy.


 The people here are friendly.  Wheeling,WV has a high rating 
for small city quality of life according to the experts on such 
things.  No more steel plants.  An hour from me the other way is the 
WV university at Morgantown.  Pittsburgh is 2 hours.The mines are 
under ground.


 Hardwood forest except for the wider ridge tops and valleys, 
where part time farmers do beef cattle cow /calf operations. Far 
enough North that we don't get chiggers, far enough South that we 
don't get black flies.  Forty two inches average.  Mild 
winters.  Property taxes laughably low.  Hunting for deer and turkey 
unequalled.  I call on Tom Savage and Lt Don(!) to testify to all this.


 The big news locally is the Marcellus shale gas boom which is 
bringing in new money, jobs and big trucks on our narrow roads.  Were 
geophysics your specialty you would be in hot demand.   Ah well, you 
are very welcome here for a beer or such like should you be passing 
by in your travels.  You might need 4WD to visit at certain 
times.  Let me know when you are coming and I will send 
directions.   It is complicated.



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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

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At 07:59 PM 4/25/2012, mao wrote:

--   Philip wrote:
> I do it every time I drive one of my cars with a manual
> transmission.
>
> --   Philip, who floats more shifts than he clutchs.

I have 3 pedals in my 240D.
Teach me?  Are there youtube videos showing this... I wonder?
Sounds like a nice challenge... if I can keep from wrecking things.
mao


 You don't need but two pedals - brake and accelerator.

 Begin with the engine off.  Shift into low (you will find you 
can do this without using the clutch).  Use the starter motor to get 
rolling and start the engine at the same time.  Speed up the engine, 
then let up on the accelerator until there is no load on the 
engine.  You will find the gear lever now can be moved to 
neutral.  Lower the engine speed to be what is right for the vehicle 
speed in second gear.  Gently slide the gear lever into 
second.  Proceed through the other gears in the same manner.  Of 
course in downshifting you will be temporarily speeding the engine in 
neutral to match the gear speeds.


 Just remember to shift into neutral before you stop.  Then, to 
get going again turn off the engine, shift into low and use the 
starter motor.


 I did this for some years with a heavy farm truck.  Didn't seem 
to hurt it.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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effectiveness and the low point of its efficiency.



  



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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?( southern MO)

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At 10:32 PM 4/25/2012, Philip wrote:

   (snip)

With very slight

pressure against the synchros, it's possible to feel when the
speed matches.  At that point, a quick "snink" and it's in
gear.

Hey, you could drive down here to southern MO and help with my
car work and I'll teach you how to float the shifts!



 Where in southern MO?  That is the country of my birth.  A lot 
like WV, except you don't have to take your eye off the rabbit to 
pick up a rock to throw at him.



 Dave Gilmore Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] S210 sunroof woes

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At 06:33 PM 5/5/2012, Walt wrote:

I was once pf the same mind, but I now find myself driving with the sunroof
open all the time.

Less wind noise than windows down, and why not use it if it works just fine?


   (snip)

Young man, worry about the sun.

 I have spent a lot of time outdoors and now, in my 70s, there 
are crusty little pre-cancerous bits popping up on my face, hands, 
and ears.   A specialist uses liquid nitrogen to burn them off 
periodically.  The skin gets thinner and more delicate.


 I guess if you are lucky you die of something else first.  My 
wife's uncle, a surf fisherman, was so badly badly eaten up she said 
toward the end it was difficult to look at him.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gifts

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At 07:05 PM 5/6/2012, Tim wrote:


This year SWMBO is both graduating and celebrating Mothers' Day next
weekend.  Aside from "sparkle" and "chlorophyll", any creative ideas?

With Amazon prime it's never last minute, I hope... :)


 Material goods are not appropriate in this situation.  It's her 
money too.  Would you not be stealing from her purse and then 
spending twice that amount on something she doesn't want very much or 
she would have bought it herself?


 Write her a poem instead.  Perhaps you have never written 
poetry and your effort is terrible.  All the better.  It shows your 
personal effort and willingness to humble yourself in appreciation of 
her efforts.   Maybe get the kids to draw her a page of cartoons to 
go with the poem.  Add some flowers picked from the roadside.  Then 
all of you cook dinner for her.



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Re: [MBZ] 928

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At 01:09 AM 5/28/2012, Alex wrote:


Why all the disdain among Porsche fans for the 928?  This is a car that
period reviews called the best GT ever, indescribably better than its
competition.  Yet the things now are routinely seen for sale for under
$5000, sometimes way under, for an early example.  None of the other
watercooled cars--944, 924S, even the 924-- goes that cheap.


 The couple of 928s I drove felt heavy and tank like compared to 
the 924S I was driving at the time.  I have been told that is because 
I was not going fast enough - that the 928 was designed for 100+ mph 
on the German freeways.  They say the last of them, the GTS model of 
early 90s, is the one to have.


 The 928 shape suggests a shark to its fans, a toad to its 
critics.  I think it was just too big a chew for the 911 people 
who  were fixated on the air cooled rear engine.  And Porsche never 
promoted the 928 for racing which might have given it more of a 
following.  And humbled some 911s.


 If I wanted performance I would go for a 944 turbo.  Otherwise a 968.


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Re: [MBZ] 83 240D Manual shifting problems almost leaves me stranded

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:46 AM 5/28/2010, Peter wrote about shifting w/o a clutch:


... the Guy who tought me to drive a Motor coach used to take a coffee can
and kick it under the clutch after you got started.  Wasn't to hard to learn
after that.


 Certainly that would provide the right incentive.  My 
experience has been that people learn the gear/speed matching part of 
driving without a clutch pretty quickly since that is what is 
normally happening anyway.


  The tricky part is getting going again after you have had to 
stop.  You must remember to shift into neutral before you stop.  Then 
when you are ready to go, turn off the engine.  You will find you can 
shift into low without the clutch if the engine is off.  Get moving 
again by using the starter motor.  The starter motor will both move 
the vehicle and start the engine at the same time.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] Ot motorhomes

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 08:26 AM 6/24/2011, Dan wrote:

 (snip)

Another consideration would be to fond a diesel bus shell and finish 
(pimp) out the interior.


You have the room for one in your back yard


 There are people very much interested in 
this.  www.busnut.com  is a fun place to visit.  So many dreams half done.



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[MBZ] Somewhat OT - In praise of old alternator shops

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 My farm tractor refused to start the other day after a break 
from mowing hay.  Ratti tat tat was all the starter would do.  Which 
meant a couple mile hike back to the house to get a vehicle to jump 
start it.  This gave me time to contemplate Dr. Booth's wisdom on 
batteries; a new one every five years will keep you from being 
stranded.  This one was nine years old, $150 and the heaviest battery 
I have lifted in my 71 years.


 Two days later it happened again.  Fortunately it was at home 
this time.  Sure enough, no output from the alternator.  I had used 
up that new battery charge in starts and running the cab AC.  So I 
jump started it again and didn't shut it down until I had finished 
with the hay.


 So by now it is Sunday and only new-age parts stores like 
AutoZone are open.  I have seen them test alternators there.  Will 
they test mine?  No.  They were very young and friendly about it but 
explained they had no "specs" on it so they couldn't test it.


 The next day I went to a traditional alternator/starter rebuild 
place where a middle aged man quickly tested it, found it working and 
explained how the wiring to the dash light was likely at fault.  He 
explained how i could jury rig it temporarily.  No charge.  Like most 
of these places everything was dark and there were boxes of used 
machine parts.  These guys can unzip an alternator so fast you can 
barely follow it.  These are men to trust.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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 The sickened breathlessness of being young





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[MBZ] OT Cheap bearings and jobs

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 I was surprised recently to discover how inexpensive ball 
bearings have become.


 I needed two bearings to fix a piece of farm equipment. I have 
learned it is is better not to go to the original equipment dealer 
for bearings since they charge a premium for a name on a box that 
contains a generic bearing.  Instead, I usually go to a store (for 
some reason called a "bearing house") that specializes in 
bearings.  You just slap the bearing on the counter and some old guy 
matches it to one he has in stock.


 Well, unfortunately, you can't do that in Wheeling WV any 
more.  On a hunch I had called first and I was told the business was 
sold and moved to some place in Ohio about two hours from 
me.  Alternatives were as far away. Wheeling is one hour.


 I was guessing the dealer would want $50.00.  Just for fun I 
checked MSC's web site - the bearing I wanted (SKF 6207 2RS) was 
$37.42.  (This is a common Metric 35X72X17 sealed ball 
bearing.)  When I Googled the SKF number up jumped many vendors 
wanting to sell cheaper than $37.42.  Since these bearings would be 
going into an item that already had a couple thousand hours on it and 
the bearings were fairly easy to get to, I chose a vendor that 
advertised bearings equal to the SKF in load rating - 25,000 N 
dynamic and 15,000 static. The winning vendor was  vxb.com.  $7.77 
each.  They have ten ways to ship, from $0.00 (pick it up yourself at 
their outlet in Los Angeles) to $90 something for next day air.  I 
chose the "take your time" at $5.00.  This turned out to be the USPS 
which took 4 days.


 The bearings (labeled CXJSD) looked and felt right and tapped 
in with about the same force it took to remove the SKF ones.  I put 
it all back together and used it two hours.  OK so far.


 I have mixed feelings about all this.  I suppose in my own 
little way I have contributed to the loss of local jobs.  But if the 
Asian countries can make quality stuff this cheap I think we would be 
better off doing something else.  In fact, we are doing something 
else locally - a shale gas boom that has brought lots of jobs and 
money.  But I guess not as much need for a bearing house as there 
used to be.  And it had a high Victorian ceiling and a worn hardwood floor.



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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Glow Relay (no glow) update No Light No Glow

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 11:08 PM 10/1/2011, Peter wrote:

Well - back where we were.  I now have no glow intermittently.  If the light
comes on even for a second, I get glow and a beautifully smoothly starting
engine - better then ever.  If it doesnt' come on I have no glow - and very
obviously no glow slow start.  Anyone have a used Known good relay they will
sell me?



 No relay for sale here, but I posted a solution back on 11/2/10 
- bypass the MB relay with a fender mounted starter relay of the Ford 
type and a push button dash switch.  Total cost about $20.  Still 
working fine on my 83 300 SD.


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[MBZ] OT Andrew and global warming and WWII

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Wilton wrote recently about how as a youth he hated Hitler and Tojo.

 I was born in 1940.  One of my earliest memories is of drawing 
crayon pictures of American fighter planes shooting down German and 
Japanese planes.  This involved a sort of generic aircraft 
distinguished by either a star, swastika or spot - the ones with 
stars always shooting down the others in flames and smoke.   I 
remember showing a batch of drawings to my mother when my seven year 
old brother wondered aloud whether kids were doing this the other way 
around in Germany and Japan.  I was horrified but later came to the 
conclusion that probably he was right.  Maybe a first introduction to 
philosophy.


 Here is a great collection of mostly civilian photographs of that era.


http://extras.denverpost.com/archive/captured.asp



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Re: [MBZ] winter tire recommendation for '84 300D

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 05:50 PM 1/4/2012, G. M. Brown wrote:

Due to a recent harrowing trip thru snowy WV, I'm considering 
purchasing a full set of winter tires and recycler rims for my '84 
300D.  Any recommendations?  I've found that the Bridgestone 
Blizzaks are no longer made in 195/70-14 size.

TIA.


 If your need is to be prepared for a winter emergency (rather 
than just regular winter driving) I suggest tire cable chains.  They 
are about $25 a set and easy to install and remove.


 I carry two sets in my 4wd farm pick up.  I have used them many times.


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[MBZ] Fwd: 1972 Mercedes Benz 250 32000 miles

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

Maybe this is the one Rusty needs.  Offer the seller $4800?




1972 250 Mercedes Benz ~ Chocolate Brown

32,000 Original Miles

Tan Leather

All Original

Original URL: 
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/2783074450.html 



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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 02:48 PM 8/8/2013, Curt wrote:
I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 
4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody 
make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup?


 Dodge is supposed to have a V6 diesel option in their 2014 half 
ton pickup for $2800 extra.


 I continue to beat around a 2008 Silverado 4.3 4WD on my WV 
hill farm.  No problems yet.  I did have to replace the stock tires 
with mudders.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] Odd behavior of radio in 83 300SD

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 I bet one of you experts knows the answer to this mystery.

 When I remove the negative cable from the battery on my 83 SD, 
reconnect it, and then turn the ignition key to on, the radio blares 
out loud static even though it was off to begin with.  I turn off the 
radio and everything is normal.  Is it supposed to act this way?  I 
can't find anything about it in the manual.


 By way of background, I have noticed that if I don't drive the 
car for two weeks the battery charge goes down to below 12.0 
volts.  I haven't got around to working the trick of pulling one fuse 
at a time to see where the charge is leaking.  I don't drive the car 
much so I thought for the time being I would just disconnect the 
battery when parked in the barn.  I suspect current is leaking 
because when reconnecting the cable in low light I can see a spark 
when it touches the battery post.  Does the automatic static sound 
from the radio indicate the radio is the problem?  The radio is 
original.  The battery is 5 years old.


Thanks for your help.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:04 AM 8/29/2013, Mike wrote re the Enviro-System products:

 Has anyone ordered from this company?  How may cans would I need 
for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and 
expansion valve?  The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent 
to 18 oz of 134a.  They have a special going on now to get 6 cans 
for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 > > > 
http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm >


 I don't know the answer as to how many cans you would 
need.  Perhaps you should call them with information about the 
capacities of your car's system.   The usual approach involves 
reaching certain pressures as measured by a set of gauges.


 I ordered from them a year or two ago.  I got the R-12 top up 
kit described at the bottom of the page at the above 
address.  My  Porsche 968 had gradually lost R-12 over a 20 year 
period - the sight glass was showing just occasional foam and the 
cooling  barely perceptible.  I added a can of stopleak and one can 
of their ES-12.  Bubbles in the sight glass ceased and the cooling 
came back.  Still working well.


 I had read good things about ES products at www.968forums.com 
.  As I recall there were some oddities about the ES refrigerant.  At 
least at one time they were not recommending it for a complete refill 
nor did they recommend pulling a vacuum on the system. Again, calling 
them about your situation probably would be best.


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[MBZ] Something different

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

http://offtheedgehumorpics.blogspot.com/2013/04/orange-county-police-car-chase-hilarious.html



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Re: [MBZ] OT Rattlesnakes

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 10:30 AM 9/5/2013, --R wrote:
Yes, a big no-no.  I am told if one is to be tramping in the woods 
doing things like that, best to carry a walking stick to sorta pound 
around on things to at least give the snake a bit of warning and 
time to move or something, so you don't startle them to bite.  Snake 
boots help too.

Best not to step over the log (or go poking in the wood pile too).

A little kid last year got hit by a big rattler 3 or 4 times when he 
stepped over a log in the woods in a park around here, I think he 
was in the hospital for like 3 months, was touch and go for quite 
some time but he finally made it though has some system degradation.


--R


On 9/4/13 6:18 PM, Craig wrote:

>His wife got bit by one last year stepping over a log (a big NONO),

I take it, then, that one is supposed to walk around the end of logs to
be able to see where one will be stepping.


 Step _on_ the log, not over it is the way I was taught.  Then 
look down and if you see a poisonous snake freeze your movement until 
the snake crawls away.  Carrying a stick is a good idea 
too.  Something to bang around with and long enough to fend off a 
rabid coon, fox, or skunk.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] Home garage lift (pit?)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 10:47 AM 9/9/2013, Andrew wrote:

   (snip)

 Have you considered a pit instead?  For example 
www.faze.co.za/PDF/Auto_Service_Pitpdf.  Could be a DIY beer party 
project or you could easily hire a backhoe guy to do most of the 
work.  I have been thinking of putting one where I usually park one 
of my cars (and flooring the opening with removable boards).


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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 01:58 PM 10/1/2013, Wilton wrote:
Just had the "screech" again, but it's a fairly low frequency - more 
like a bass saxophone and seems to be coming from upper center 
console area behind PBCU.  Sounds like air blowing through a 
restriction  - possibly past a nearly closed valve.  I'll try to let 
it continue next time in effort to locate it; 'try to remember to 
just rotate temp wheel for possible change in frequency next time.


 Next time you hear the screech shut every thing down and hold 
your hand near the AC compressor.  If it is close to locking up 
likely you will feel some extraordinary heat.  When the compressor on 
my tractor locked up it was so hot it melted a couple nearby rubber 
hoses.  I realize the KLIMA is supposed to prevent this.


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[MBZ] 1966 Mercedes 230SL - $9800 (Peters Township)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 This would appear to be a reasonable price, comparing it to the 
ones in Hemmings anyway.




1966 Mercedes 230SL



http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/4113184232.html


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[MBZ] OT Fwd: DRM in Cars Will Drive Consumers Crazy

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

Another reason to keep our old cars running.



Forget extra cupholders or power windows: the new Renault Zoe comes 
with a "feature" that absolutely nobody wants. Instead of selling 
consumers a complete car that they can use, repair, and upgrade as 
they see fit, Renault has opted to lock purchaser...


https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/drm-cars-will-drive-consumers-crazy 




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Re: [MBZ] Tar (Curt's tractor fronts)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 02:36 PM 11/22/2013, Curt wrote:
We have terrible troubles on the Super M farm tractor keeping the 
front tire from going flat. Most of what we mow is grown up in 
bushes and little trees and the sticks that get left behind slice 
the tire up something terrible.
Dad suggested filling them with foam until he found out it'd cost 
$125 each at which point he said "we'll get 10 ply truck tires to 
put on". I pointed out that $200 per tire to save $125 per tire 
didn't seem like any kind of economy.


When we left deer camp last Saturday I took the front wheels off the 
tractor, he had them foam filled today.


 When first reclaiming old fields here in WV I had lots of 
punctures on the fronts from thorn apples.  What worked for me was 10 
ply recap truck tires with a couple cans Fix-A-Flat in each.


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Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon questions (oil cooler)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:41 PM 1/10/2013, Dieselhead wrote about galled oil cooler fittings:

   (snip)

Or you can just go to the listmom or fleabay or the car-part.com and 
buy a used oil cooler.  That way someone else had to take the big 
oil line nuts off.


 I did this - bought a used one - when I was trying to do the 
fix on my 83 300SD.  Although it wasn't pitted as badly, the used one 
leaked oil at the lower fitting like the original.  Eventually I gave 
up and just slathered the threads on the original with JB Weld.  That 
has been working for about 15 years.  My plan is if/when I have to 
replace the oil cooler hoses again and I can't get the lower hose off 
I will do the JB Weld trick once more with the spare cooler I now have.


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[MBZ] OT - What to do with leftover battery acid?

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

  I seem to remember someone in this group one time recommending 
using acid to improve the soil for growing potatoes.  Can anyone 
provide details on the procedure?  Or perhaps it was a joke.  In any 
case I have between 3 and 4 gallons of battery acid I'd like to be 
rid of.  I have googled the subject and found many safety warnings - 
such as always adding acid to water, not the other way around - but I 
am coming up short on uses for it outside of lead acid 
batteries.  And it appears batteries nowadays come already filled 
with acid and sealed.


   The story is that last summer I rolled my farm tractor and 
hurt my elbow in the process.  By the time the elbow had recovered 
enough to run a chain saw to free the tractor it had spent about 
three weeks on its side, draining half the acid out of each battery 
cell.  Judging from the size of the battery I figured I would need 3 
- 5 quarts to replenish it.. While at my local NAPA  getting some 
other parts I found quart containers of battery acid were about $5 
each and they had only 2.  But they would sell me a 5 gallon 
container for I think it was $32.  So that is what I bought and used 
about 1 1/2 gallons.  It is in a heavy cardboard box with a plastic 
liner that collapses as the acid is drained out by an attached hose.


 I have the box sitting up on a dry shelf in the equipment 
shed.  I have never before needed battery acid and I don't anticipate 
needing it again.  I don't want it to leak as the result of 
accident.  Nor do I want stolen by some crazy person like the one 
that attacked the school children in Connecticut.  Any suggestions as 
to what to do with it?  Thanks.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

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At 11:36 AM 1/25/2013, OK Don wrote:

 (snip)


I forgot to mention that I want 4 wheel drive. Although we haven't received
much ice/snow the last two years, the red dirt road to our house does get
slippery when wet. The ML is really nice with all-wheel drive all the time.
Are any of the truck 4x4 systems at all sophisticated, or are they all
manual?


 I bought a new Chevy 1/2 ton 4WD RCSB in 2008 and it has been 
fine - no problems, and I have beat it around pretty hard.  Most 
rural folks here favor Chevy, Ford, and Dodge, in that order.  (The 
Dodges have a poorer reputation for quality.)  I think the short 
wheelbase trucks handle much better than the crewcab or long bed 
models on our WV twisty roads.  And they are less prone to getting 
hung up off road.


 Mine is a budget model with a manual 4 X 4 shift.  Just pull 
back on the lever on the hump.  Obviously, going into low range 
requires stopping first. I have the old fashioned 4.3 iron V6 which 
seems to me to have plenty of power.  I get 15 mpg around the farm, 
20 on the highway.


 There is fierce price competition on the basic work truck 
models, especially if you are a cash buyer who shows up at the end of 
the month interested in one they already have on the lot.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

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At 06:43 PM 1/24/2013, Brian Toscano wrote:

The lack of insulation makes for old house charm. :-)

Back then fiber glass didn't exist.  In some rural areas, houses were
clapboard siding, studs, and tongue and groove or simply pine boards on the
inside with a tin roof.  Exterior clapboards may never have been painted.
 Wood stove inside, possibly serving double duty as a stove.  The ground
level floor could have been supported with slabbed tree trunks, leveled
with a bottle.



 Sounds about like our WV house when my wife and I arrived in 
1981.  There was no insulation.  The walls were leaky clapboards 
tacked on top of what a neighbor called "Yankee board".  This is a 
double layer of rough cut vertical boards.


 In this system you start construction by nailing together a 
floor grid of  2 X 4s balanced on stone piles.  The walls are 
made  by laying boards on the ground side by side, then laying 
another layer of boards on top to cover the cracks and nailing the 
two together. A row of people lift up what amounts to a board curtain 
and walk it up to become a wall of the house.  It is propped in place 
while other walls are similarly made, tipped up, and the corners 
nailed.  The top of the walls are notched for 2 X 4s that form the 
roof.  More boards on that and then galvanized metal.  Holes are cut 
for store bought doors and windows.  All lumber must be fresh from 
the mill since only green hardwood can be nailed without drilling.


When we got the place it was leaning a bit here and there but 
basically sound after 60-80 years.  So we added another layer in the 
form of salvaged 2 X 4s attached horizontally to the outside by 60d 
nails driven from the inside.  That gave us some room for insulation 
and then board and batten on top of that.  It has been great.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy? Now revolvers

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At 12:58 PM 1/26/2013, Jim Cathey wrote:

(snip)

  Esthetically I prefer old-school work.  Like a S&W N-frame

 (snip)

 Yes!   Now you are talking.  Revolvers typically are more 
accurate, with a better trigger, safer, more reliable, and are best 
suited for reloading your own ammunition.  I can't understand why 
auto-loaders are popular, outside of competitive target shooting 
where they make timed and rapid fire events easier.


 Here's my introduction to pistol shooting story.  When I was a 
kid the only firearm in the house was my father's !911 .45 ACP which 
he kept in the bedroom dresser drawer.  I was about 8 and my brother 
11 when he finally gave in to our pestering and agreed to show us how 
to shoot it.  It was loud, it kicked, and none of us could hit a tin 
can much more than 10 feet away.   What a bummer.  My uncle, who was 
also present, let us shoot his S&W K38 target revolver.  What a 
revelation!  Since then I have fired many thousands of rounds in 
handguns, but only under duress do I use auto-loaders.  I urge all 
you handguners to try at least one quality target revolver before 
your shooting days are over.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Camp

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At 04:23 PM 1/29/2013, Curt wrote:

 (snip)

We're planting in trees to become a "tree farm" which will reduce 
our taxes from $10/acre to about $2/acre and make up my retirement fund.


 Just by way of contrast, my property tax comes out to about 
$.23 per acre.


 Property taxes are low here to begin with and are made lower 
yet for my wife and I by virtue of 1)our  living on the property, 2) 
being  over 65, and 3) being farmers, i.e. we produce over $1000 a 
year in agricultural products.  (You can count as part of that $1000 
the produce from your vegetable garden.)


 Also, I read today in the local paper that the County Assessor 
is recommending lowering the rate because valuation of the new shale 
gas facilities has increased the tax base.


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 It is a peculiarity of the English language that while most 
fish swim in schools, herring swim in shoals, a word of the same 
meaning derived from the same Anglo-Saxon root.
  



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[MBZ] OT - WV taxes and winters

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 I should have mentioned when I wrote recently about the 
$.23/acre real estate tax that it is just surface rights we own.  The 
mineral rights were separated and sold long ago.  The mineral owner 
(I think it is CONSOL in our case) is also paying taxes on "our" 
parcels and although I don't have the numbers I am sure it is more 
than we pay.  Rights to the gas alone are now selling for five times 
the surface rights on timber land.


 Someone mentioned that states with low real estate taxes 
typically make it up by higher taxes in other areas.  We do have a WV 
income tax.  My wife (who does the taxes) tells me for most people it 
is about 4 - 6 % of their adjusted income.  What with the various 
deductions for being over 65 etc., we haven't paid anything for the 
last several years - this year we will pay big because we sold a 
pipeline ROW through part of our farm.  WV also has a sales tax - 6% 
on everything except food which is 3%.  WV taxes road vehicles as 
personal property.  Here are the five vehicles we have and WV's 
valuations of them:


 1983 Mercedes 300SD $120
 1987 Ford F700 dump  $120
 1992 Porsche 968$4725
 2008 Chev  P/U$8085
 2009 Mazda CX-7 $9225

 They taxed us a total of $497 for those last year.  We have 
farm equipment worth more on which they don't collect taxes at 
all.  So I guess the bottom line is that if you are old and low 
income this is a cheap place to live even if you have real estate.


 About the winters here.  In WV it depends a lot on 
elevation.  Folks at 3000+ above sea level get much more snow and 
cold than we do.  Our house is at 1400, the hill tops about 1500 and 
the valley streams about 900.  We get snow, but not for long enough 
for people to have skies or snowmobiles.  I plowed the lane to the 
house with the tractor FEL once so far this year but it really wasn't 
needed.  Mostly cold rain.  It seems a mild winter to me but then 
again I grew up in northern Illinois.  My wife grew up in Sydney, Aus 
so it seems a bit colder than necessary to her.



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[MBZ] Fwd:OT - nifty folding bicycle

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Looks like this would fit in the back of your Mercedes.


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[MBZ] OT Curt's restaurant

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:09 PM 2/25/2013, Curt wrote:
I want to start a restaurant called "Take off your dammed hat" where 
failure to remove your hat results in public ridicule. It'll have an 
ice-cream stand called "Pull up your dammed pants".


 It's the backward facing hats that trouble me.  But my biggest 
problem is with tattoos and body piercing.  How about a "Curt's Down 
East" with clam chowder, homemade bread and fruit pie.  That wouldn't 
appeal much to the under 30 set which is where one usually finds the 
more offensive fellow diners.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Curt's restaurant - youthful style

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 09:11 PM 2/26/2013, Curt wrote about my qualms regarding hats, 
tattoos and piercing:


Sorry thats just you being an old fart. Wearing a hat inside, thats 
disrespect, wearing it backwards just means you're a loser.


Body piercing, whats wrong with that? Or tattoos? If they're lame 
tribal tattoos thats one thing, make fun of the idiot but I don't 
see anything wrong with 'em.


 I have been thinking about this.

 Technically it is true about my being an old fart.  People in 
their 70s fart more than youngsters.  I understand it has to do with 
the digestive system not working as well as it once did.  Something 
to look forward to, if you are lucky.


 About the piercing and tattoos. My generation was raised to 
think that males should not call attention to themselves except 
through competence in something or power of some sort.   Young 
females, in contrast, more often assumed  a "look at me" 
manner.   They didn't have to do, they could just be.  However now 
young females are expected to be competent and powerful.  So I guess 
it is fair for everyone to flaunt themselves.


 But body jewelry and skin pictures? That seems so unsanitary. 
There must be a better way.  Something offensive to the older 
generation that does not cause us to cringe when seen in a food 
service worker or fellow diner.  I suggest the next fad be skirts and 
high heels for males under 30.  Perhaps with fake sidearms to affirm 
masculinity.  That would allow for showing off, be expensive and 
painful, suit the modern urban life style and alarm parents,   What 
more could one ask?


 Dave Gilmore,Cameron WV

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 In wanting to silence any song











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[MBZ] OT - The VW Kombi ends production

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Actually I thought they had ended long ago.



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 And tender curving lines of creamy spray:

  
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[MBZ] OT - Health benefits of drinking beer

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

A bit late, but at last something worthy from one of my wife's do good groups:


http://www.care2.com/causes/6-health-benefits-of-drinking-beer.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hooked on oxys

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 11:49 AM 3/24/2013, Dan wrote about pain killers:

That stuff scares the heck out of me. I am understandably concerned 
about the wife's upcoming hip replacement surgery, as I know there 
will be a lot of post operative pain, and she has a pretty low 
threshold for it.



  I had a hip replaced about eight months ago.  My feet got 
tangled in a vine and I fell downhill, hitting the point of the hip 
on a rock.  Cracked off the ball at the top of the thigh bone.   They 
said my bones were good so they didn't have to do much to the pelvis, 
just put a sort of ball joint with tent stake in the thigh 
bone.  They went in from the side.  When I left the hospital I  was 
given pain pills to take if needed.  I used them to help sleep at 
night for a couple days.


 There wasn't much pain unless I tried to reach or bend too 
far.  I didn't have much strength to lift the leg but I could get 
around pretty well with a walker as soon as I got home.  A couple 
weeks and I graduated to a cane.  In a month I was driving my tractor 
again.  I still don't walk as gracefully as I once did but I do all 
the things I used to.  I am 72.


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[MBZ] Air conditioning - venturi vacuum pump

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Have any of you a recommendation on this type of vacuum pump 
for evacuating an auto a/c system?


http://www.tooldiscounter.com/ItemDisplay.cfm?lookup=MAS91200

 I am planning for the tools I need to work on my own a/cs .  I 
have an air compressor (with 30 gallon tank) that claims to put out 
5.7 cfm @ 90 psi.  So perhaps I can get by with something like the 
above unit rather than pay several times as much for an electrically 
powered pump?  The comments on the a/c sites vary a lot.  I was 
hoping some of you trustworthy fellows had experience with such like.


 Also I am looking for thoughts on what I guess are the 
hydrocarbon substitutes for R 134, such as Envirosafe and Freeze 
12.  I tried some Envirosafe in a 20 year old Porsche R12 system last 
year and it is working well so far.


 My most pressing need is to activate the (up until now  R 134) 
system in my cab tractor before hay season starts in June.  The 
compressor locked up last fall.  I have a new compressor and dryer, 
and a set of a/c gauges.


My 83 300SD was converted to R 134 by a dealer's shop about 12 
years ago.  It is still working but the compressor is getting rumbly.


 Thanks for your help,

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 Everyone looks good in overalls.


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[MBZ] Fwd: Re: W123 oil cooler threads

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

At 04:30 PM 5/2/2013, Tim wrote:

As Curt predicted, I stripped the threads of my oil cooler.  I am getting a
used one off eBay, should show up shortly.

When I install this puppy, should I use some kind of anti suite agent?  Or
is that futile, or even counter productive?


 If your luck is like mine the used one won't seal due to 
corrosive pitting on the rounded cone that projects into the hose 
fitting.  I tried to smooth it but altering the shape even slightly 
made it worse.  So I just slathered up the original with JB Weld 
and put it back together.  It has been holding now for several 
years.  I am assuming I won't be able to get it apart if I have to 
change the hoses once more.  Therefore I am keeping the used one I 
bought to repeat the JB Weld trick next time if necessary.


 Such an approach my work for you if all else fails.

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[MBZ] way OT - looking for a left handed worker who wears gloves

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At 10:33 AM 5/7/2013, Rick wrote:

(snip)


Hey, what do I know? I'm left hand dominant.


 Have I got a deal for you.  Or someone else who is left handed 
and wears work gloves.


 As it happens I am right handed and have found I wear out first 
the right hand gloves I use in the garden and around the place.  I 
hate to throw away the half worn left gloves.  I have a box of them 
(mostly cheap leather faced) on a shelf.  Probably 40 or 50 of 
them.  So here's what I have been thinking.  Somewhere out there is a 
thrifty guy like me who is left handed and hates to throw away the 
half worn right hand gloves.  We trade!


 For the price of one of these USPS flat rate boxes we save 
ourselves significant bucks.  Or if you are nearby and want a place 
to go for a Sunday drive come see me.  Spring is lovely here.  Send a 
message and i will send directions.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: chain saws

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At 09:25 PM 5/10/2013, Allan wrote:

I have a fairly wooded lot and have decided I need to get a chain saw to
keep it maintained.  I checked local CL and surprisingly didn't find
much.

Needs to be gas-powered, too large a lot for electric to be practical.

Don't really know much about them.  I don't need anything
lumberjack-quality, but don't want a piece of junk either.  It's
probably something I will only use a few times a year.  Maybe should
just rent one as needed?


I didn't know chain saws could be rented.  That sounds like a 
good way to learn about what you might want.  Do wear ear muffs and 
safety chaps.  The rental people probably provide them with the saw.


 For the last 32 years I have been using a chain saw a couple 
times a week.  Mostly cutting up trees that have fallen out into my 
fields or across farm roads.  I burn 3 or 4 cords to heat my house 
and sell another 6 or 8 to long term customers.  The Stihl saws have 
been the best.  For the last 10-15 years I have settled on a pair of 
Stihl 026s with 16" bars and Oregon chisel chain I buy in 100' reels 
from baileysonline.com.  I make the loops with a hand tool.  At the 
end of the day I clamp the saw in a vice and give each tooth a pass 
or two with a file.  Every fifth or so sharpening I measure each 
tooth with a caliper to make sure they are staying the same length 
and I measure each raker with a gauge.


 You may not go into it as heavy as I have but you probably will 
do more than you think.  For example your neighbors may become very 
friendly.  So you might want to think in terms of eventually getting 
a quality saw.  They are so much more satisfying to use than the 
"homeowner" ones.


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Re: [MBZ] best chain saw - operator age

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At 01:12 AM 5/14/2013, Rick Hawkins wrote:

THe best chainsaw that i ever had was an old Poulan pulpwooder's saw,


(snip)


It was a bear to start or even to pick up, to drop while holding the
starter cord to start it. I could do it fine from age 25 to 35, but i
don't know about now, at nearly 59.


 (snip)

 You are on to a basic truth about chain saws they don't mention 
in the sales literature - you need to consider your age.  When I 
first went to reclaiming an old WV farm I was 41.  I could work all 
day clearing fields.  In the 1980's I used Homelite SXLs (and later a 
Stihl 042) with 20" bars.  I sold 50 cords of firewood and several 
hundred fence posts each year in addition to rebuilding a house and 
barn.  Neither my old tractor or truck had power steering.  Septic 
system dug by hand, etc.


 All that sort of thing has changed now that I am 73.  For 
example, my saws are Stihl 026s and next ones are going to be even 
smaller - probably the MS 201 C-E that has the wind up starter 
feature.  I am not complaining.  I am happy that I can still do the 
things I used to do, just not as much at one time.  And I sure enjoy 
that nap after lunch.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1975 Mercedes BENZ 300D, fully loaded, LOW LOW MILES, rust free CLEAN! - $5495 (Cleveland)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 With wire wheels yet.




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[MBZ] Mobil 1 15-50 and valve adjustment OM617

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 I finally got around to checking the valve adjustment on my 83 
300SD.  It has been starting well (3 or 4 seconds preglow with my 
manual push button system) and sounding good but it had been 31,000 
miles since the last adjustment when I bought the car.  The manual 
says 15,000 mile intervals.


 The valves were just a wee bit tight.  The intakes (supposed to 
be at .10 mm) all passed easily a .068 mm feeler gauge but not a 
.103,  the nearest I have to what the manual specifies.  The exhausts 
(supposed to be at .35 mm) all passed a .330 but not a .353.  The 
adjustments to put them all right were tiny.


  I attribute the lack of wear to the use of Mobil 1 15-50 
synthetic which I have been changing at 3-4000 mile intervals. I am 
planning now to go 50,000 miles before next checking the adjustment, 
assuming no hard starting or unusual noises.


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[MBZ] Bounced messages

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Oh ye great list administrators.  For the third time in about a 
week I have been unsubscribed from MBZ because of bounced messages. i 
suspect the bounced ones are those from Curt and Dimitri that I don't 
see any more since the change from the "(name) via mercedes" system.  
Could we go back to that system, please?  Thanks.


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Re: [MBZ] Taylor University

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At 06:57 PM 8/2/2012, Craig wrote:


I was questioned at length about my faith at both universities. Faculty
at both institutions indicated they were satisfied, so I don't think that
was a problem.


 From an earlier post I remember you said you are 62.  They 
won't say so but that counts against you when being considered for a 
teaching post.  They usually want fairly young people as new teachers 
on the theory that the younger ones will better relate to the 
students.  And be less of a burden to their retirement 
system.Unless, of course, you come trailing  some sort of star 
quality fancy awards, etc.  You probably are not even Black or 
Hispanic.  So sorry.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] OT Kindness of strangers

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 After reading here lately about unhappiness and coping with 
life's problems I thought I should add a cheering note about 
unsolicited kindness.


 I recently drove to the big city (Wheeling, WV) to visit my 
alternator/starter guy.  His test showed the alternator OK, which 
pretty much pointed to the voltage regulator as the problem with my 
F700 truck.  He said he couldn't test the regulator but suggested 
that for $12.30 a new one (made in China so it has to be good!) would 
put me back in business.  As usual he was right.   Now my firewood 
customers will be getting their stuff while the ground is still hard 
and I won't be tearing up their yards.


 But to me the most interesting thing about the day's events was 
how helpful people were.  I had a hip fracture operation about seven 
weeks ago and was walking with a noticeable limp.  Little old ladies 
suddenly appeared to hold open doors for me.  People carried things 
to my pickup when I visited a store.  I was quite impressed.  Makes 
me vow to pay more attention to other people needing help.



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Re: [MBZ] I just *have* to share this...

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At 08:07 AM 8/27/2012, Tim wrote:

My camera has a lock hook.  Since mine is the cheapest there is I assumed
this was standard.

I use it for shed security, btw.


 Some folks here have these "trail cameras" focused on their 
rural mailbox, if it is out of sight of the house.  I know the WV and 
PA authorities train them on illegal dump sites along back 
roads.  The electric power and telephone companies use them to catch 
thieves trying to steal their property for scrap metal.  You don't 
want to mess with any such camera, whether on public or private 
land.  Their owners are very serious.


 This is particularly true in the case of hunters.  The hunters 
I know have these on their own property or land leased for hunting 
from farmers like me.  The land is posted.  Typically there are 
multiple cameras, well hidden, looking from different angles at the 
same place.  My hunters would not be amused by pranksters fooling 
with their cameras.  Such pranksters, if they were lucky, soon would 
be in court  facing trespassing and vandalism charges.



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[MBZ] OT Robots at Work and Play

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 This stuff just knocks me out.

 http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/10/robots-at-work-and-play/100389/ 




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[MBZ] OT Vets Day and my thanks to the military

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 As usual, I smile and accept the thanks bestowed upon me and 
other veterans this day.  I did my bit with the Army in the early 
60's and hated it.  But it turned out to be a good thing for me.


 By 1960 I had dropped out of school and was starting to learn 
many of the things I didn't want to do in life.  Like working in a 
meat packing plant.  Since back then they drafted people, rather than 
wait I volunteered.  Then I learned of a lot more things I didn't 
want to do - such as military life.


 When I got out I was ready to go back to school and the GI bill 
helped.  It went up from I think $90 a month to $130 when I married 
another struggling student.  That paid the rent for us.  There were 
more twists and turns but I finally got a BA in 1970.   Guess who was 
the only outfit to offer me a decent job? Uncle Sam.  That extra five 
points for being a veteran got me into the Federal Civil 
Service.  And once on board the veteran's preference meant that in 
case of a reduction in force all the non vets would be out the door 
before me.  That gave me the incentive to lean forward and start 
hopping from one agency to another in search of promotions.


 And the work (personnel administration) was half way 
interesting, especially as I moved up in grade.  It came to pass that 
when I visited military activities the former lowly E-4 was now 
accorded Colonel.status according to their  GS conversion 
chart.  What a life.  Except both wife and I found ourselves working 
more hours than we wanted.  We used some of our new money to buy and 
sell a couple houses in the Washington DC area.  That allowed us to 
bail out of the rat race and live what had become our dream - a hobby 
farm in the woods.  There were a few more lucky twists and our hobby 
farm became a big chunk of timber which has rewarded us in many ways.


 All thanks to that honorable discharge from those miserable 
years in the military.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 The best teachers teach more than they know.






 



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[MBZ] OT - Insults

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Something for Gary and his critics.  (All in good fun.)


http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html



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[MBZ] OT - Battery charger RIP

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Alas, I have I had to replace my battery charger.  My good old 
3 amp model from W. T. Grant now just makes a faint humming sound and 
puts out no current.  I took off the cover and looked for something 
obviously wrong but it just looks dusty.  (I will keep it in case 
someone like Dan P or Jim C comes by who probably would know how to 
fix it.) Funny the things one remembers.  I bought it in 1956 from a 
store in downtown Joliet, Illinois.  The place had hardwood floors 
that were noisy to walk on.  It was for a Triumph T110 motorcycle 
that was my first legal vehicle.


 I thought about asking the list for advice on a new purchase 
but found they are so cheap it didn't seem reasonable to bother about 
it.  For $29.60 from Walmart the new one senses the state of the 
battery and adjusts from 6 amps down to trickle charge 
automatically.  You can't hook it up backwards - it won't work and 
tells you of your error.  And since I am 73 it won't have last as 
long as the first one.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 You think the USA has a nanny government?



http://gu.com/p/3y6qk



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Re: [MBZ] georgia cold as 9ebytyja

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 1/6/2014 9:00 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
In 1980-83 I had an old rusty 300k to 400k mile 190Dc with a very 
tired engine I used for winter salt use.  Drove it all over.  I 
remember one time we drove to DM for a meeting in January and it 
turned very cold.  It was in a motel parking lot and i knew it would 
not start at 20 something below.  I took the propane torch and heated 
the head until it felt slightly warm to my fingers.  Hit the starter, 
and it fired right up.  I used the propane torch trick on it many 
times.  Think of it as a propane block heater, only it does not heat 
the oil well.


I also tried heating the steel lower oil pan with the propane torch. 
It was not nearly as effective as heating the head. Heating the head 
also warms the IP and fuel filter and some fuel. One time at home, I 
tried heating both with 2 torches at the same time.  It was no more 
effective than one torch on the head.


 Ah this brings back memories of my first farm tractor, a well worn 
MF 65D.   Hard to start below freezing.  The book said not to use 
starting fluid.  There was a device inside the intake manifold to drip 
diesel fuel on a glowing  wire.  You could hear it do a frump-rumble 
rumble number at which point you were to engage the starter and draw the 
heated air into the cylinders.  It didn't help much.  I noticed the 
intake manifold didn't even get hot.  So I decided to try using a 
propane torch on it.  Like most tractors the engine and transmission 
were also the frame so everything was out there in the open.   True, 
there was the fuel tank above but I planned to heat just the underside 
of the manifold.


 Probably it would have worked except for the fine layer of oily 
crud built up on everything over the years.  Although I had wiped off 
the area, as soon as I began using the torch the side of the engine 
became enveloped in a lovely lazy blue flame.  Quick to the fire 
extinguisher.  Whew.  White powder everywhere but the fire was out.  I 
think after that I used a magnetic electric heater that stayed clinging 
to the oil pan the rest of the winter.  Once I had a new sleeve kit put 
in it started fine.


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Re: [MBZ] S210 suspension leak

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 1/14/2014 5:56 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Arrgh.

I've worked harder attempting to remove one flare nut from the a tee 
fitting on the 210 than I did replacing the control valve and spheres 
on the much older 201.
The other end of the line goes into the control valve at a place 
that's inaccessible to pliers, so it'll be worse.


I cut the line off at the nut. Stuck a 12mm deep socket on it, it spun 
freely.

Stuck a 11mm socket on it. It was hard to turn, but it spun too.
5" curved jaw vice grips were a no-go too, and about the biggest thing 
I can fit in there.
Didn't have any break free or liquid wrench, so I soaked in in super 
lube for the night, will try to torch it in the morning. Might end up 
replacing three lines instead of one.
  If the space allows you might try scoring the nut lengthwise with 
a piece of hacksaw blade or a three cornered file.  If you stop just 
when you touch the threads the nut often will have been weakened enough 
to where it will break when you next twist it.


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[MBZ] Fwd: 1983 Mercedes 240D DIESEL 92K STICK! - $ 4000 (mt lebanon)

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Original Message 
Subject:1983 Mercedes 240D DIESEL 92K STICK! - $4000 (mt lebanon)
Date:   Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:40:31 -0800 (PST)
From:   ro...@craigslist.org
To: 


http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/4264159912.html



/Gerry was interested in a manual transmission 240D. This ad is kind of 
old but still on the Pittsburgh list./


  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


  My name is George Washington Abraham Lincoln Ulysses S Robert E Lee,
  That's me, from the Land of the Brave and the Free.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 people own half the worlds wealth

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 1/22/2014 4:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Walmart is able to charge so litle because it pays its workers so little.
Many of them are on public assistance to make ends meet because WM doesn't
pay them a living wage.
 I am troubled by the living wage concept.  How much would that be, 
for how many hours, for what part of the country and who decides?
Different wages for an individual and the head of a family?  If for a 
family is it assumed that one adult stays at home with the children?
If grandma lives next door?  Or if there are no children or many or 
special needs?  There would be so many ways to finagle such a system.  
What would it cost to administer and enforce?  Would it not encourage 
employers toward further automation of low skilled jobs?  Should the 
government make work for the unemployed?


 In contrast, the present safety net approach looks much more 
practical - encourage people to earn what they can and  supplement their 
income if they are in need.   Many people - low budget students for 
example - want temporary or part time work.  Wouldn't we as a society be 
better off to encourage people to better themselves in this way rather 
than settle into a living wage sort of dead end job?


 The joke is that a Liberal Paradise would be a place where 
everyone is guaranteed employment, free healh care, free education, free 
food, free housing, free utilities, and only law enforcement personnel 
have guns.  Such a place does exist.  It is called prison.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

 We're neither pure nor wise nor good.
 We'll do the best we know.
 We'll build our house and chop our wood.
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[MBZ] OT 85 people etc. and election systems

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 I think it was Curt who favored a NOTA option on the ballot. I 
read the state of Nevada offers a None of the Above choice in its 
elections, as does the nation of India.  It doesn't seem to have 
improved things much in those places.


 Negative voting, i.e. being able to subtract a vote from an 
undesired candidate, certainly has appeal.  It could backfire however if 
enough people subtracted votes from the better two candidates to allow 
the win of an oddball third candidate that few wanted.  Voting 
strategies would change.  Almost certainly there would be more negative 
advertising.


 My favorite fantasy reform involves the U. S. Senate.  Why two 
senators from each state, large and small?  What is the present logic in 
having California and Texas be on a par with West Virginia and South 
Dakota?  And why is the Senate needed anyway in today's system?  They 
just add another stop in the legislative process.  OK, so they do some 
advice and consent and bless treaties.  Nothing the House couldn't do, 
what with their 400+ members standing around.


 Or leave the Senate duties unchanged and imagine what  a useful 
balancing group it would be if its members were selected by lottery from 
all registered voters in the country.  (This is about the way the 
classic Athenian democracy worked.)No parties, no special interests, 
no complaints about some group being under represented. If your name 
comes up you get six years as a Senator at about $175,000 a year plus a 
few million $ for staff and expenses.


 Think of your  experience on jury duty.   Wouldn't  people rise to 
such an occasion?  No need to go to D.C. if you didn't want to; stay 
home and do it by email. The only problem I can see is that current 
senators and political parties would not want to go there. Maybe we will 
have to wait for Grant's revolution in the streets...


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] MB Content, NO rooting Politics

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 2/5/2014 10:06 PM, Craig wrote:

On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:41:12 +1030 Hendrik and Fay 
wrote:


You do know that in Oz 'rooted' has a different meaning than it has in
other parts?

Hendrik
who needs a new mobile

I'm afraid to ask ...


Craig
 If you go to  YouSwear.com  and click on Australian there is a 
fairly thorough listing of improper words used "down under".  Which in 
itself sounds a bit off color.  Which, come to think of it, sounds a bit 
un PC too.  Oh well.


In my experience Australians enjoy emphatic speech.  My late father 
in law, for example - although a very middle class sort of Australian  
insurance company executive - used  "bloody" or "bugger" in about every 
sentence.


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Re: [MBZ] You're welcome!

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 2/19/2014 4:21 PM, arche...@embarmail.com wrote:
ROFL!! I think you have described the Washington bureaucrats attitude 
in one sentence.


 Note that I said "Washington bureaucrats"; not the thousands of 
government workers who usually do an acceptable job in all parts of 
the country; often under difficult conditions.

Gerry

On 2/19/2014 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

WHat rubbish.  There is no civilization outside of the Beltway.
 I think it charming that Andrew is able to make fun of himself 
this way.  Renews my faith in the civil service system.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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 And tell sad stories of the death of kings;


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Re: [MBZ] Social Security and Obamacare

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 2/22/2014 5:12 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Why are you hiding behind those monikers anyway?

No hiding.
No moniker.
The name was given to me by Gary years ago on this list when we
visited the Q-que.  mountain.man was not available, maontin.man was
available, I use mao.  Very simple, no hiding, mao is a mere handle
given to be by the inventor of okiebenz.
mao
 And here I had thought your inspiration was the WV state motto 
Montani semper liberi - roughly  "Mountain men are always free".


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] OT - Sharing the road in WV

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

One of the thrills in living in a WV shale gas boom area is 
meeting big equipment on narrow roads.  It used to take about an hour to 
get from Cameron to Wheeling WV on US250.Now everyone allows an 
extra half hour for delays due to wide loads of drilling equipment 
getting stuck trying to turn corners.   Here was the latest excitement:
http://theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/596174/-Superload--May-Finish-Today.html?nav=515 

 And there is another one like it coming in March.  This one is 
moving on a special all wheel steering platform controlled remotely by a 
guy with a joy stick box.


 The good news is there is full employment and local merchants are 
happy.   People with a flat piece of land have set up RV parks for those 
Oklahoma boy's fifth wheelers.  Landowners who still have mineral rights 
are getting $7500 per acre.  Farmers w/o minerals are selling drilling 
sites and pipeline right of ways.  Life is good.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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die first.


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Re: [MBZ] Social Security and Obamacare

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 2/22/2014 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I will reward you with a personal visit.  My minimum stay is 3 weeks.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:


David wrote:

  And here I had thought your inspiration was the WV state motto

Montani

semper liberi - roughly  "Mountain men are always free".

*THAT* is my inspiration.
Wonderful.  I knew I like WV for very good reason.
mao
 Andrew, you are welcome, as are all other list members.  You will 
want to bring a sleeping bag.  There is room in the upper floor of the 
barn.  Sturdy boots recommended.  I have extra gloves.  I assume you are 
familiar with chainsaws.  I am going to be way behind on firewood for 
next year: I think I have burned five cords already this year.


 Let me know a week before you come and I will provide directions.  
Road access keeps changing depending on pipeline construction, etc.  You 
probably will need 4WD before May.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sharing the road in WV

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 2/23/2014 9:57 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Dave wrote:

One of the thrills in living in a WV shale gas boom area is meeting
big equipment on narrow roads.

Interesting story and video - thanks.
I looked around at google maps to see if some of these development
sites can be seen.  I think this is the McElroy substation:
39.871503,-80.638208

You got that right.

and this is the Oak Grove site:
39.878424,-80.590768
Not exactly.  That one is called the Beeler Station site - the Oak Grove 
site is further down Fork Ridge and I guess too new to show up on the 
Google map.Supposed to be 170 acres and $3 billion.

- seems like lotsa Okie terrain messin' happenin'
in your neighborhood.  Let's hope WV residents get more of that cash
than the okies take to OK.  These appear to be processing depots -
where are the wells and pipelines?
The wells are hard to see on the map - 3 to 5 acre white spots with 
grassy lanes running to them.   Further east on US250 (Waynesburg Pike) 
between Irish Ridge Road  and Wolf Run Road you can see one just to the 
north.  Eventually there is to be a grid of them spaced about 2 miles apart.

I like the appearance of that area
- very attractive, rural, it seems.  Prolly too expensive to move
into.
Prices have gone up.  Thirty years ago we bought over grown farm land 
(w/o mineral rights) for $200 an acre.  Now it is 8 to10 times that, 
most of the increase in the last few years.  Still cheap by California 
standards.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Firewood

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On 2/25/2014 9:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

If the wood is relatively straight the axe is way faster.


It depends on the wood.



I like my engine-powered splitter.  Especially as I take
culls, windfalls, whatever weird free crap falls my way...


 This is pretty much my situation.  Mostly  firewood here starts 
out as junky stuff that has been leaning out over  meadows.  Locust, 
sassafras, red elm, cherry, maple, ash.  When oak, hickory and walnut in 
the deep woods fall across roads i try to keep open they get added to 
the stack.  Lots of tulip poplar too but it isn't worth the effort.


 I have a ram splitter that plugs in to the hydraulic system of a 
farm tractor.  With a  4" cylinder with 24" stroke it cuts through 
stringy wood and knots that otherwise would keep a round from 
splitting.  Setting the engine at about 1300 rpm moves the wedge at a 
speed that is workable but safe.   .My woodshed is long, open on the 
south, and holds 8 -10 cords.  Typically that is more than a two year 
supply for my house.  I burn the oldest wood first and fill in behind 
with newly split.


 In a normal winter (20F to 60F is my firewood harvesting 
temperature) I saw and split 10 -12 cords.  After filling the woodshed 
the rest goes in a pile that I sell to some families I have been 
supplying for years.  I find it all a very satisfying activity.  And I 
have to get the stuff out of the way any how.  I seldom cut a live tree.


 By way of wisdom to pass on, I feel obliged to warn against the 
use of the auger type splitters.  These can still be found secondhand.  
These look like a big wood screw that goes into the side of the round.  
They run off a tractor pto or a small stationary engine.  Bark buster 
was a popular brand.I used one for several years.  They are simple, 
cheap and fast but dangerous.  If the auger goes into a knot and twists 
the round off the support bar the round will spin so fast you can't get 
your hand out of the way.  I disjointed a finger.  Others have been hurt 
worse.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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directed by the past.


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[MBZ] OT - Joke was Re: RIP Frankenheap

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 On 3/11/2014 9:20 PM, Gary Hurst wrote :

i enjoy jokes like that  :)

like one man's mead is another man's persian (which is this in reserve)


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


The guy comes walking into the doc's office, and the woman asks him, "Why
the tux?"

He says, "If I'm gonna be impotent, I want to look impotent."

--R



On 3/11/14 4:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


No.  What happened?

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

  Did you hear about the guy who drove his Mercedes to his appointment to

get a vasectomy?

--R

 My favorite word play joke:


 A man is eating dinner in a fancy restaurant and at the next table 
is a gorgeous blond.  He has been checking her out for some time but 
hasn't worked up the nerve to speak to her.  Suddenly she sneezes and 
her glass eye flies out of her head toward where he is sitting.  With 
his quick reflexes he catches it in mid air.


 "Oh God, I am so sorry",  she says, putting the eye back in its 
socket, "Please come have dinner with me and let me make it up to you."


 They have a lovely dinner together and then go to her place for 
drinks.  After a while she takes him into the bedroom and begins 
undressing him.  They have wild passionate sex many times during the 
night.  The next morning when he wakes she has already gotten up and 
brings him breakfast in bed.


 The guy is amazed.  "You are the perfect woman!", he says, "Are 
you this nice to every guy you meet?"


 "No",she says, "You just happened to catch my eye!"


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 4/6/2014 5:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Yeah, lots of good survival food with lead as a main ingredient..


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:


If ever the SHTF for real, I think you'll find most NRA members much better
prepared to survive and prevail, particularly compared to folks in major
cities who depend on an elaborate infrastructure.  Consider, for example,
how long could NYC (or DC, or Chicago, or LA, etc.) survive if isolated
from
the rest of the country.  What would the aftermath of Sandy have been like
if the social order had collapsed?

Andrew: FYI, Googling "lead free ammo for sale " produces  752,00 hits.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: confirm ***************

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 5/4/2014 5:14 PM, clay wrote:

IS the list really falling apart since Dan took over.  I get these bounce 
messages every other day, and others seem to be not getting anything list 
related?  Is this endemic?

clay

Begin forwarded message:


From: mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com
Date: May 3, 2014 6:28:23 PM PDT
To: redgh...@comcast.net
Subject: confirm **

Your membership in the mailing list Mercedes has been disabled due to
excessive bounces   etc.


 I doubt if Dan has anything to do with it.  I have been getting 
the same bounce warnings both here and from the Ritter list to which I 
am also subscribed.  And, by the way, I never see  Curt's messages any 
more unless someone replies to one and attaches Curt's original.  I 
don't know what is happening.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

 happy rural seat of various view

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Re: [MBZ] Test (icle)

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On 5/8/2014 5:32 PM, Fred Moir wrote:

Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb.


 Came through to me.  But I always thought it was supposed to be 
"rhubarb waterbottle".


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] SD radio comes on loud with new battery

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Not a big deal, but I wonder why the radio in my 83 300SD always 
comes on  full volume when I reconnect the battery and turn the ignition 
switch to start the car.  Even though the radio  had been off when the 
battery was disconnected.  It is the original radio/tape player.  I have 
to be quick with the off button to avoid a huge blast of static.  Once 
turned off it will turn on and function in the normal way.  And if the 
battery hasn't been disconnected it always works normally.


 When I got the car I disconnected the previous owner's car phone - 
a big old Audiovox model.  Could that be relevant?  Thanks.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] OT - First Cars

[David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes]

 My first car was a 1953 Studebaker coupe I bought in 1958 from a 
used car lot in Chicago.  It had been repainted (yellow) and I suspect 
the odometer rolled back but it was lovely.  I don't think there has 
been a more graceful car made.  Whitewall tires.  Three on the tree with 
overdrive.  Flathead straight 6.  Not very powerful but smooth and it 
handled much better than my folk's Pontiac station wagon.


 In that car I experienced an epiphany.  I was driving across 
Kansas on my way to start a new life in Denver.  Suddenly everything was 
suffused with the classic glow and I felt a sense of well being unknown 
before.  The feeling lasted perhaps five minutes.  I had ingested only 
coffee and scrambled eggs at a truck stop diner not long before.  Just 
youth, I guess.


 The Studebaker got me to Denver but it sure didn't run well.  I 
read the mile high elevation had an effect on internal combustion 
engines.  I found a dial on the carburetor that allowed it to be set 
leaner and that solved the problem.  The next big event was one day on 
my way to work the rear end locked up at about 60 mph.  A seal had gone 
and leaked the lube out.  Not long after that was fixed the foot brake 
went to the floor and I sailed through a stoplight. (This was before the 
day of two chambered brake reservoirs.)  A month or so later the 
transmission began making bad sounds and shifting hard.  By then I was 
earning decent money so I traded it in on a new VW Beetle.  Fortunately 
the dealer didn't test drive the Studebaker.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV



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Re: [MBZ] OT - First Cars

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On 2/1/2015 9:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

David wrote:

By then I was earning decent money...

What type of work in Denver did you do?
What part of town?  I started working for a small civil engg firm in
Denver in '78 but pay never got good.  We lived south of DU.
mao


 I was there in '59 and '60 doing various college drop out blue 
collar stuff.  Originally I had intended to go to a gunsmith school, the 
Colorado School of Trades, but that didn't work out.  The decent money 
at the time I bought the VW was a $2.25 per hour union job at a pork 
processing plant.  Lots of overtime so I was rich.  I lived in a rooming 
house in Edgewater that cost $30 a month.  Those were my strong 
back/weak mind days.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trailer welding followup

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On 2/11/2015 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I'm probably going to get one of the HF 220 ones I think. That way if I need to 
weld anything bigger I can. Although I have never welded before. I am going to 
tackle welding up the broken strut tower on my 124.


 I'm a bit late here but I thought I would pass on my wisdom about 
learning to weld.  I have a Lincoln 225 AC machine that I bought used 
many years ago.  Included was about 75 lbs of 1/8" 6013 rods which is 
all I have ever used.  With this rig I have welded a lot of farm 
equipment back together, built up worn parts, modified truck beds, and 
so forth.


 In my experience the most important thing is to practice on scrap 
until the bead you  are making is good.  The scrap metal setup should 
duplicate the type, thickness, and most importantly the angles involved 
in your project.  Welding vertically requires a different machine 
setting and technique than welding flat or upside down.   For example, I 
usually weld vertically by going down with the stick pointing up and 
making small, multiple beads on each side of the object to prevent 
warping.  A hand held grinder will be your friend.  The auto darkening 
hoods are a great invention.  But practicing on scrap first is the key.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron  WV


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Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

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On 2/14/2015 10:55 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
My understanding is that there is an existing pipeline, which is too 
small and not direct.  There is also a lot of oil coming from the 
Bakken (sp?) formation in North Dakota, and most of that oil is 
transported by rail and truck.  That oil is very light and extremely 
volatile, and tends to burn quite nicely in the event of a mishap / 
derailment.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


There is another pipline proposed to run from ND to IL.  It goes 
diagonally across Awa.  It has caused a big uproar about the proposed 
use of eminent domain to enrich a private company.


While there is a national interest, is it proper use of eminent domain 
to tear up the world's most productive land for the enrichment of a 
private company?



 From what I have seen a pipeline coming through enriches 
everybody.  Local contractors get work, landowners get easy money and 
the land is not harmed.  (The topsoil is moved aside and replaced when 
they are done.) Once construction starts it all happens fast - the 
machinery is so expensive they don't let it sit idle if they can help it.


  I agreed with Chesapeake to put 10,000' of a  a 16" shale gas 
gathering line through my place two years ago.  It took the contractor 
just a couple weeks in steep, mostly cut over timberland which required  
removing stumps.  The part that went through my ridge top hay fields 
left them smoother then they were, fertilized and seeded to my 
specifications.  I gave up timber growing in a 50' ROW about 6,000' 
long.  In return I got a firebreak where I needed it and hay fields 
enlarged.  And $240,000.  I understand bigger lines, like the interstate 
lines, pay more.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

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On 2/17/2015 11:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:42:51 -0500 David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes
 wrote:


On 2/14/2015 10:55 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:


While there is a national interest, is it proper use of eminent
domain to tear up the world's most productive land for the enrichment
of a private company?

   From what I have seen a pipeline coming through enriches
everybody.  Local contractors get work, landowners get easy money and
the land is not harmed.  (The topsoil is moved aside and replaced when
they are done.) Once construction starts it all happens fast - the
machinery is so expensive they don't let it sit idle if they can help
it.

I agreed with Chesapeake to put 10,000' of a  a 16" shale gas
gathering line through my place two years ago.  It took the contractor
just a couple weeks in steep, mostly cut over timberland which
required removing stumps.  The part that went through my ridge top hay
fields left them smoother then they were, fertilized and seeded to my
specifications.  I gave up timber growing in a 50' ROW about 6,000'
long.  In return I got a firebreak where I needed it and hay fields
enlarged.  And $240,000.  I understand bigger lines, like the
interstate lines, pay more.

What you describe, however, is not the use of eminent domain. Your
saying, "I agreed ... ," indicates it was a voluntary transaction with a
private company that compensated you for your losses and troubles.


 Yes, my situation did not involve eminent domain.  I should have 
made that clear.  As I understand it, a gathering pipeline is a local 
intrastate sort of thing, in contrast to the interstate transmission 
pipelines that typically involve eminent domain.


 What I was responding to in Curly's original message was the idea 
of tearing up productive land with the private company the only one 
getting enriched.  The land is restored.  Putting a pipeline through 
just means the farmer misses a crop and is well compensated for that.  
As I see it the issue is that the resulting Right of Way limits  use of 
the land for something else, like putting  buildings on it.  That is 
what you really are being compensated for.  In most cases you can just 
put up the building nearby.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres fun

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On 2/21/2015 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Last weekend I was unloading a car in the back 40. On this particular car it 
was to be parked in front of another car so I put the ramps down and hook a 
strap to the read end of the car on the trailer and hook it to the front of the 
car behind then proceed to pull the truck forward to pull the trailer out from 
under the car. Done this method many times. This time the car got hung up on 
the trailer,
I think the Exhaust was having to low.
Long story short the truck is now buried up to the axles. Today I get my 
fathers 4x4 suburban out there it did not even budge it, then got the trailer 
out from behind it and hooked to the suburban and pulled it around front to use 
wench on trailer to pull it out, wench not big enough. Then hooked 4x4 tractor 
and suburban up and the 2 pulling together did not budge it. Guess I'm going to 
have to call the wrecker.


 Couldn't perhaps use the tractor 3PH and a chain to lift on the 
truck's trailer hitch?  Then put something in the pits where the rear 
wheels were stuck?  Getting the rear end up a bit might save damage to 
the exhaust when the truck is pulled out.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres fun

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On 2/23/2015 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Do these still have the doodads for stretching barbed wire too?
Kleb is now out there on the ranch and might need to do that.


 You probably mean the tool I grew up calling a come-a-long, which 
I gather is known now as a "cable hoist puller"- a device with a ratchet 
lever that draws in a hook on a cable.


 I have 4 of these.  One, with two 10' chains, is behind the seat 
of my pickup.   The others are hanging in the barn/out buildings where 
last used to lift on and off the sides to my flat bed truck, the wood 
splitter to the tractor loader bucket, etc. They are half the price of a 
high lift jack and more versatile.  The problem with the jack is that it 
has only 4' of travel and a good bit of  that is used in taking up slack 
when you use chains. Come-a-longs have more like 8'/10' travel.  i use 
cheap ones rated at 2 tons.  Since there is almost always a handy tree 
to pull or lift from here in WV the come-a-longs work best  for me. (I 
did knock together an A frame for using a come-a-long to pull a stuck 
pump out of a well that didn't happen to have a tree in the right 
place.)  I have used multiple come-a-longs at once in rescuing over the 
hill machines.


 Since Kleb is out there in the wide open spaces and so much 
involved with vehicles I can see why the high lift jack would be his 
first choice.  But I bet he will need a come-a-long or two eventually, 
if he doesn't already have them.  To my way of thinking the big 
advantage to either the jack or come-a-long is that things happen 
gradually.  You can hear/feel it if something is getting stressed to 
much.  With power equipment things often break before you can stop.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 Don't say ain't!  Your mother will faint!
 Your father will fall in a bucket of paint!
 Your sister will cry!  Your brother will die!
 Your dog will call the FBI!

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Re: [MBZ] OT "Global warming" (aka climate change), linked to

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On 2/25/2015 5:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I have been listening to the inane commentary on NPR about this 
pipeline bidness.  It is quite interesting how the opponents have 
managed to turn the discussion around aspects that are either 1) 
wrong, 2) irrelevant, 3) conflated, 4) partially true, 5) idiotic, 6) 
ignoring certain other factual aspects, 7) all of the above.  And the 
"journalists" let it all slide without making the interviewees be 
rigorous in their arguments.  It is a wonder to behold, I remember now 
why I missed sending in some dinero during the begathon the last 3 
weeks.  Note that this has nothing to do with my opinion on the 
matter, just an observation on how it has all unfolded.  Even one of 
my TEA party-type friends was ecstatic Obama vetoed the bill, and got 
lots of likes from other flaming lib friends on his view.  I tried to 
point out some aspects of his views on the matter that were positively 
wrong but he would not be swayed by facts.


 I have been intrigued by the parallels between the 
climate/environment discussions and religious behavior.  Recently I was 
talking with my brother, a fan of NPR talk shows, who explained many in 
the climate change camp want to eliminate  the use of the word "skeptic" 
by those who don't agree with them.  "Skeptic" is seen as an honorable 
word associated with scientific inquiry. Instead, since the evidence is 
so overwhelming in support of the climate-change-caused-humans model, 
anyone who doesn't buy on should be labelled "denier".


  Really now.  Believers and deniers?  With no room for agnostics?

  I think the problem is that those wishy washy agnostic types 
can't be counted on to take the kind of action the climate zealots want, 
i.e. doing away with big cars, beefsteaks, and so forth.  The idea being 
if our life style spews out so much CO2 why we have no moral grounds for 
trying to hold back all those third world types from the same thing.  
And the world population has grown; more than doubled just during my 
lifetime of 74 years.  Which leads to my favorite solution - less 
people.  We need more incentives for people to have fewer children.
Gold metals, tax breaks, free stuff, permission to go to the head of 
lines, all that kind of thing. World wide!


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck, now getting old and useless

[David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes]

On 3/8/2015 1:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Black socks with sandals!  And don't forget to schedule your haircut, 
doctor visit, bank visit, grocery run, pharmacy run, and other errands 
on different days so you have something to do, just enough to justify 
the nap after the errands.


I told my kids if I ever get to that point they have my permission to 
take me out to the woods and tie me to a tree.  It's in my living will.


//I recommend a farm.  There are tax advantages and you get to wear bib 
overalls, the most comfortable clothing made.  You have minimal hassles 
with neighbors.  You can hunt and fish..  You stay productive while 
doing interesting stuff at your own pace. Just pick a location where the 
wife has an easy commute to her job in town.


 My own solution involves hay in the summer and firewood in the 
winter.  There is always a market for such like.  And with modern 
machinery there are no great physical demands.  Lots of my friends are 
in their 80s.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP

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On 3/13/2015 10:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, another one:

THE CORN CROP


 Wilton, I really enjoy the stories you post.  In my experience 
it's rare for a person with a technical background to write so well.  
And I like the subjects you choose - real work rather than just some 
artsy impressionist stuff.


 I can relate to those old farming ways.  My grandfather's Ozark 
farm had one of the corn shellers you describe  mounted next to the corn 
crib along with a hand operated burr disk apparatus.


 One of the places I bought here in WV came with a barn collapsed 
on a seed grain cleaner the size of a VW beetle.   It blew air via a 
hand cranked paddle wheel across a system of moving screens.  There were 
tongue and groove tight bins for the grain. This was on the second 
floor, above a scale that weighed wagons. Further down the road was a 
threshing machine in its own collapsed shed with an iron wheeled Fordson 
tractor rusting next to it.  When the neighbor who wanted the tractor 
pulled it out only the top two thirds of the wheels were left and he had 
to skid it onto his trailer.  I saved the threshing machine for years 
for a fellow from the Waynesburg PA historical society only to find he 
had died and no one else was interested.  It is pretty much melted away now.


 On another subject, I have an interest you might want to write 
on.  I have heard bomber pilots are a superstitious group.  Not wanting 
their pictures taken and that sort of thing.  Did you B52 guys in 
Vietnam have superstitions?


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] Mercedes pickup

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 Here's something to hope comes to the USA.
http://www.bild.de/auto/auto-news/daimler-ag/mercedes-bringt-pick-up-modell-in-kommenden-jahren-40324338.bild.html 




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heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic numbers.


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[MBZ] List mail

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 Just a test.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] generator for Craig

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On 5/12/2015 5:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 (snip)

  Those are 2 stroke engines so I don't run them dry


 (snip)


 Running 2 strokes dry is a problem?  I regularly do this with 
chainsaws - run them until they go dry, fill with fuel, run until dry 
again, etc.  Done it a thousand times with no apparent harm.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 How can we be just in a world that needs mercy and merciful in a 
world that needs justice?


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege

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On 8/11/2014 9:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

(snip)

A buddy does have a nice Porsche 944 Turbo for sale that is sorely tempting
me though . . . . .

 Ah these are lovely cars, perfectly balanced.  They have humbled many a 
911.  Lots of mods available and websites run by enthusiasts.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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[MBZ] OT - Kubota tractors tier 4 was 1984 500SEL Surrender

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On 8/21/2014 9:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I'm fixing to buy a diesel tractor for the ranch. Probably new. Probably Kubota.
 Beware the EPA's tier 4 pollution standard.  Although I understand 
it is not required in final form in off road diesels under 75 hp for a 
few more years, Kubota has been introducing tier 4 in their new tractor 
engines.  I hear the changes include common rail computer controlled 
electronic injectors, a urea tank, a catalytic converter, and a 
particulate filter.  And a price increase of several thousand dollars.  
I would go for an older model.


 I suggest something in the 40-50 hp range, 4WD, front end loader, 
3ph with a quick detach backhoe.  If you plan on haying I urge a cab 
tractor.


 Around here Kubotas have a reputation for top quality but the 
parts are expensive.


 I bought one of their RTV900's, now with 1500 hours and going 
strong.  I use it every day.  The dog is in love with it.   If you are 
walking anywhere in the direction of where it is parked she will run and 
jump up on the seat and wait for you.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 Give sorrow words; the grief that does not speak
 Whispers the o'erfraught heart, and bids it break.


  


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Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

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On 10/6/2014 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
(snip)

 In the interest of full disclosure, my oldest son's 300E 2.6 still has 
R12 in it, and I have a can on the shelf. It could probably stand to be 
topped off, but I don't have a manifold gauge set that will do R12.


 It is my understanding that one doesn't need a gauge set in this 
situation.  Aren't there bubbles showing in the sight glass if the 
system is low?  Adding refrigerant (with the compressor running) until 
the bubbles go away restores cooling.  Or at least that is the way I 
always did it.  I think.  It's been a long time.


 I'd go through and tighten all the connections first.

 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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races.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

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 I second the advice from brother Grant - the best shotgun is one 
that fits.  It will feel good, point naturally, and won't beat you up 
with recoil.


 The recoil thing is very important.  It is easy to develop a 
flinch from recoil that will ruin enjoyment and performance.  Once 
started flinching it is hard to stop.  IMHO the gas-operated 
semiautomactics, like the Remington 1100, are the best choice for the 
novice clay target shooter.  They are not a big investment and this sort 
of gun will allow a person to shoot a lot, which is the way to build 
competence.  Then maybe move to a special purpose heavy and expensive 
over and under if clay shooting turns out to be one's sport of choice.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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