Re: Statements from Kevin in 2003
On 11/04/2011 10:46, Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: So much for the - hopefully lifelong - relationship between Livecode engines and the MC IDE. Well I certainly never said lifelong :) But hey, we've kept up our bargain for 8 years now and still intend to continue to do so. I have absolutely no idea what you might not be happy about... Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Compile-free coding, the faster path to better apps ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Statements from Kevin in 2003
On 11/04/2011 13:39, Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: Kevin, you are welcome. Thank you for the almost instant reply. What we were somewhat unhappy about (see some of the posts in the recent thread [MC_IDE] Quick Poll) was that it had become more difficult than Unfortunately I don't have time to digest this entire thread today. before to integrate the new Livecode engines into the MC IDE and that we needed one and a half year to build a new MC standalone builder. Richard Gaskin is going to deliver that new one during the next weeks. It is a lot of work to maintain any IDE and as the number of capabilities and supported platforms have expanded, standalone building has by definition had many features added to it. We have made it as simple as is possible while providing that expanded feature set. Indeed the process of building a basic standalone is simpler than it has ever been. Could you possibly do something about this and facilitate these processes of integration for future versions of Livecode? This must not be too difficult. Many thanks in advance and best regards, My offer was to continue to support your capability to keep your IDE up to date by making it possible to continue to integrate engines and new features if you chose to do so. To that end we provided complete details of what is required to update your standalone builder to the keeper of your IDE when last requested a long, long time ago (over a year at least). I did not offer to write the MC IDE for you and such an offer would not have been welcome, we already maintain an IDE, this is your IDE which is open source. It is down to those that maintain MetaCard to keep it up to date. I'm sure the current keeper of your IDE can verify this, and that consequently your statements are quite unfounded. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Compile-free coding, the faster path to better apps ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Speed differences between MC and Rev and the origin of the English language
On 21/9/06 22:37, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the revGeneral library is always included. There is no option to turn it off, which is usually okay, since the majority of Rev users need at least some part of that library. What a strange design decision. I've helped more than a few people diagnose errors in standalones that weren't evident in the IDE because of the additional objects being added to their first card. Such errors are particularly hard to pin down because the objects don't exist in the IDE, which is the only environment that can run a debugger. I can see having an Include revGeneral option turned on by default, but preventing people from doing anything else seems really odd. One more reason to improve MC IDE for the masses: it's the only way to make truly native Rev apps. :) To suggest that a standalone is not a truly native Revolution application because it contains Revolution code libraries seems nonsensical. Does that mean that a standalone containing libURL is not a truly native Revolution application? There is no such library as revGeneral. You may be thinking of the revCommon library. If this is the library you mean, it seems unlikely that this library would be responsible for a drop in performance given that the only system message it intercepts is mouseDoubleUp - sending a mouseUp to objects, in the same way the MetaCard IDE has done since the dawn of time. All the other message handlers in there are there to support those terms we define as part of the language definition and include in the dictionary. Basics such as revCopyFolder. Its quite a compact library. The bigger libraries are all optional. Whatever is causing the performance difference is unlikely to be that library. But if it is, well its like any other part of the product and could contain bugs along with the engine, the IDE, the OS, a database driver, etc. Errors introduced by including objects on the first card of a standalone are a pain, I fully agree. That original design decision historically stems from the need to deliver extensive functionality libraries (today in constant use in the vast majority of standalone applications out there), and not having control over the engine and therefore capability to create an official place to put them. Doing this better will come about as we improve the overall product architecture and create a place for this sort of thing. It won't come about by us hacking in a quick fix that will doubtless introduce its own quirkiness. Relative to the time you have already waited for this, it won't be much longer. In the mean time, rather than spending time being surprised that we would attempt to deliver feature libraries with useful functionality for our user base to include in standalones, we would as ever welcome constructive suggestions on how to continue progress on making what we have work better and more reliably. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: alwaysBuffer not set...
On 20/7/04 10:55 pm, Wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then in other words, RR itself is going down this slippery slope (looking at the script in the revmenubar and other rev stacks :-) Or the slope is not that slippery. I think this is a valid concern. Its important that we make the IDE as close to the engine defaults as possible, something the next couple of Rev releases will address. AlwaysBuffer should be the default in the engine, saving both IDEs from making any changes that have the potential to cause confusion in a standalone environment. Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Missing email
Hi, As I mentioned before recently my mail database crashed a little while back with the loss of a number of emails. Most of you resent items that were outstanding and I recovered most of the rest from a backup. However I'm fairly sure there were a few fairly important items that I saw and subsequently lost, that haven't had replies. So, if you're waiting for a response from me on something, please resend your message. Sorry for any inconvenience. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Metacard support
On 4/12/03 10:02 pm, Wilhelm Sanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I will follow Richard's advice to ask my questions again next week when I am back and Rev may have rounded up their new troops by then. We're getting there, slowly but surely... I have done some more benchmarking, which I will report about, concerning the relative speeds of the MC and Rev IDEs both for using the IDEs during the development and for building standalones. I think I have found sort of a critical mass of controls where the Rev IDE absolutely bogs down (and the MC IDE does not). A sober analysis of the causes for these differences - about which I have some private and possibly educated guesses - could maybe be instrumental and helpful for the improvement of both IDEs. Did you file a bug report on it in Bugzilla? If you did, we'll fix it. If you didn't, we'll still try, but can't guarantee what list this will be put on when. While you and I are enamored of MC's simplicity, for others that same simplicity can be seen as hellishly spartan (to use the words of one of my clients who prefers Rev). I have looked up spartan in the Britannica World Language Dictionary (part of the Encyclopedia Britannica). Here is the entry: Spartan: Pertaining to Sparta or the Spartians; heroically brave and enduring. A native or citizen of Sparta; hence, one of exceptional valor and fortitude. Adding what has been reported about the Spartans elsewhere one could summarize: Spartans were disciplined, enduring, efficient, and powerful. Revolution has been around for 7 years less than the MC IDE, and has many more features. So we're not there yet on a raw efficiency or uncluttered scale. But it won't be long before we are that too, and in the mean time, we have to cater for the larger number of users. And you are quite free to go on using the MC IDE if you wish. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Script Limits
On 8/8/03 2:43 pm, Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And BTW again, did anyone contact Kevin privately about this script limit thing, as suggested in his original message ? And did anyone get an answer ? I did. No answer. But I did not list any specific product that is immediately impacted. My current personal response time is averaging around 10 days. Please be patient. And in case anyone is confused, I do not provide technical support - that queue is only on my personal mail box. Our technical support is running smoothly at the moment with no unexpected delays. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Does your MC crash too?
On 13/8/03 6:27 am, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do we write for support now? [EMAIL PROTECTED] to talk to a human and get help with a problem. If it is a bug report though, that should be filed on our web bug tracking system, visit our site and follow the links to Developer - Submit a bug report. Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Script limit - clarify please
misjudged just how controversial this proposal was going to be. There was *never* any question of existing customers being unable to access an engine that allowed this if they were already used to it. I thought that sentiment was clear from my original post. That said, Richard is reading my like a book - we clearly won't be enacting it any time soon. And...if we do enact it in the future, we'll work out *special arrangements for existing customers* with standalones that are going to break. Note that, as indicated from in my original email, we were, and will continue, to find ways to ensure that existing customers don't lose out. You are the people that have supported us from the start, and as we change the model here and there to take on new markets, you can expect: more features faster, more support options, and a lot of effort in making our policies backward compatible. Folks, I really want to urge everyone to move over to Revolution if at all possible. Its much easier if everyone is using and providing feedback on the same tool, and its the same engine. If you really don't want to pay the cross-grade charge (which gets you a renewal running to a year after whenever your current one does, so you have nothing to lose), contact our support team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell them how valuable you are and make a fuss and we'll try to make you happy, as we always do. That said, if you want to stay with the MC IDE, you can. We won't be doing anything to deliberately break the IDE with future version of the engine. So, I'm going to put the scriptLimits proposal on the backburner for the moment. One of the primary reasons for it is that it is something of a security hole at the engine level. I'm fundamentally opposed to the Starter Kit, it has never worked well, our research clearly shows that the 30 day trial is a much more effective way to go. We'll come back to the scriptLimits proposal if any open source IDE starts to get used as a useful tool that helps *circumvents* people from buying an engine license. Even then, existing customers can expect not to be burned. Finally folks, this has been an incredibly busy time for all of us here at Runtime. My ability to keep up with the mailing lists isn't as good as I would like, it can take me a couple of days before I read them. Bear with us, comment to me off list if you don't like something, and everything will settle down in a little while. Right now, I'm going to concentrate on trying to ensure as few surprises for you folk as possible for the next little while. Everything is going just fine, you're getting more features, more resources, the same tool you always loved, and a company that has, can, does, and always will, listen to what you have to say and accommodate when it is practical and reasonable to do so. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Script Limits and solid IDE evolution!
On 7/8/03 2:30 pm, Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this was an acceptable way to earn your wings and test the MC environment. Chaining 10-lines was not breaking any licenses AFAIK. I believe the reasoning was that any serious developer would pay rather than struggle all the time, but people who were not serious wouldn't pay anyway. Some post in this thread seem to confirm that this worked. (But then some complained that they can't truly evaluate the product with 10-line limit.) Right. And with either a purchase of $995 or a free product, pros would pay $995 and everyone else would use the free product. But now, we have Revolution Express - list $149 and currently on intro-offer at $75. The Starter Kit would cannibalize sales of that. And it did not make a good demo, it is less effective than a 30 day trial. That isn't some kind of theoretical debate, we have done our homework - 10 lines of code frustrated a lot of people using the demo. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Script Limits and solid IDE evolution!
On 7/8/03 2:30 pm, Robert Brenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, while MC was meant as a tool for professional developers, Rev is mostly after the hobbyst market. Not at all. Revolution Express is after the low end market, but Studio and Enterprise are aimed at professionals. When you cross-grade from MetaCard, you get Enterprise - i.e. pro. No platform limitations, no marketing exit screen, etc. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Script Limits
Hi, As part of the transition process in the MetaCard acquisition, we're working out what to with the scriptLimits property when not developing with a licensed IDE or the 30 day trial. We plan to reduce the first value in the property, the one that lets you set scripts of 10 lines, to 0. So you'll still be able to use do but otherwise this loophole will be closed. If anyone has any objections to this, please contact me off list. The main objection I can see that someone might have is that they use this in their existing standalone. If that is the case, we'll work something out with you before making this change. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!
Hi Everyone, First, let me say: Welcome! We're glad to have you as members of the newly-unified team. Next I'd like to clear up a few things, and ask you to be patient. Many of you have asked what will happen to the MetaCard IDE going forward. We're still working out the exact details, but rest assured, the MetaCard IDE will continue for as long as you need it. The agreement we have guarantees that. We won't be maintaining the IDE ourselves, but we won't do anything to break it, and several people have expressed interest in keeping it compatible as the engine gains new functionality over time. That said, we're happy to have those who want to switch to the Revolution IDE do so, and we're offering incentives to encourage you to switch. A number of you have asked about our policy on releasing updates, and specifically how it will compare with Scott's in the past for MetaCard. There's no denying that we're more aggressive than Scott has been. Also, there have been times when our schedule slipped. We're working to address these issues, and we're making progress. Ensuring that each release has as few bugs as possible is a priority. In addition, some of you have requested more communication regarding a variety of issues during the timeframe of the buyout. This email is a response to those requests. Apart from the information above, I have to ask that you be patient, as hard as I know that is. We're going to have a booth at MacWorld CreativePro, and we're all extremely busy with preparations. Rest assured that email you send is being read. If any of you are going to the show, we invite you to stop by and see what we have in store for the next release. We'll be making several announcements on the mailing lists in the coming week as well. Finally, let me just say again how exciting it is to have you all as members of our extended team. You have a level of experience and a sense of history that we need going forward. We have many things planned for the next few months, and we think you'll be as excited by them as we are. Having Revolution and MetaCard under one roof is going to be great! Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!
On 10/7/03 2:51 pm, Shari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'll let him catch his breath first :-) Thanks :-) But rest assured, we have a great program of updates and upgrades planned. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
MetaCard is 10
Hi Everyone, A big round of applause for Scott Raney and his team, as, for those of you who don't know, MetaCard turned ten this weekend. Cheers! Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - The Solution for Software Development Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: database and MC
On 18/4/02 1:35 am, andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revolution supports MySQL, ODBC, and Oracle cross platform for this.. Any chanse you can make those db externals available to metacard users too, BTW? We don't have any plans to do this: supporting databases is something that we plan to expand on even further, with closer integration with Revolution and an expanded feature set: it is a core part of the Revolution product. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - The Solution for Software Development Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] Speedomatic Mail Server
On 27/11/01 3:12 pm, Sjoerd Op 't Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without wanting to detract anything from the above, I wonder why that '[Metacard]' prefix came in. The problem is that sometimes the subject of a reply will be: Re: [Metacard] Speedomatic Mail Server but sometimes [Metacard] Re: Speedomatic Mail Server Then my mail client gets confused and doesn't get the thread anymore. Anyone against removing that prefix? Metacard team: is this possible? Done. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Multi-column lists: interim solution?
On 23/7/01 11:11 pm, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For MetaCard to be taken seriously as a competitor in the VB space, or anything related to databases, it needs some way to display multicolumn lists in which the columns can truncate display. Using a single field and truncating the text in a script will work, but its only really reliable if we use a monospaced font, and stepping through each line of each column to do the truncation in script on even a modest 3,000 records is prohibitively slow. Why not use multiple fields? This will automatically truncate and does give acceptable performance in my experience. Store the data in a variable and have one display routine that copies the variable into multiple fields - you can call that any time you need to update the display. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: socket streams
On 24/7/01 1:10 pm, Robin-David Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have encountered a problem with the MC environment. I wrote a script to repeat forever and scan a socket for new input. it seems to HANG inside the script. it hung far longer that the socketTimeoutInterval (now thats some CONFUSING capitalisation) result had to kill the app after 3 minutes of gefingerpoken got me nowhere. what is the nice way to scan a socket stream for new data? read from socket tSocket with message myMessage Then in the myMessage handler, process the data and continue reading. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how do I turn off the focusColor?
On 17/7/01 6:34 pm, Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Make it apply to all objects (i.e., buttons and players also get a focus border in the Motif look and feel, and it might be nice to be able to turn this off). 3) Make it global or an inheritable stack property. 4) Hack the focusColor property to have some non-existing color be a cue to not draw the focus border at all. It does need to apply object by object - as you do generally want this on. Turning it off happens on a case-by-case basis where you're doing something cool that the field object probably wasn't originally designed for (such as a multi-column list). In such a case, no way do you want to have an extra object there to draw the border with. As such it has to be 2 or 4, and I would go for 4, as 2 is going to be a real hassle from the cross-platform point of view (you have to turn this property off on Mac for buttons, but then turn it on again on UNIX). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Getting multiple sounds to play at once
On 14/7/01 1:21 am, Andrew Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using version 2.2.3 of MetaCard and I need to have at least 2 sounds play at once. Is using the MCIsendstring (is that right?) a way to go about doing this? I know upgrading may be the answer, but I don't have the money right now. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I'm pretty sure you should be able to do this with MCISendString in that version. There was an example stack that showed use of MCI - did you find a copy? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Control technology
On 27/6/01 8:25 am, Hugh Senior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone used metaCard to control external devices? The need is to flash various combinations of LED's and beep on right / left speakers (don't ask!) I haven't done it, but it should be easy enough to do if its a serial device - you need to figure out what format it needs, then you can simply read and write from the ports. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Drop Activation on Mac/Win
On 19/6/01 7:29 pm, Peter Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to write a small file conversion utility and I'd like to be able to drag and drop a source file on to the icon for a standalone written in MetaCard. The idea is that it starts up and opens the source file, converts it into a result file and then either awaits another drop on its icon (or File menu Convert command) or simply closes. This is mainly for the Mac but it would be handy if worked on the PC as well. I tried using the $0, $1 command line parameters, but they simply return the name of my standalone program, not the file dropped onto its icon. Any ideas please? On the Mac, you need to use an appleEvent handler. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: viewing doc and app icons in MC
On 19/6/01 6:21 pm, Craig Spooner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to post this again, but I got no reponse the first time and wonder if anyone has ever tried to do something like this. Any ideas would be welcome! It should be possible to do this, but it won't be straightforward. You need to figure out where in the file the icon is stored. Could might get somewhere by checking out the standalone builders scripts to see if they provide some help with this. The other way to go about it is to set an application icon of some app to an .ico file using an icons editor, then search for that binary file in the standalone. You'll definately be able to solve this problem, it will just take a bit of digging. Next up you need to display the icon. Unfortunately, .ico is not a format supported by Quicktime or the MC engine, so you'll need to write a decoder to do that. I expect you should be able to script it using the new imageData property in 2.4 (given you're only displaying an icon performance should be OK), but you'll need to find a document or someone who understands how the file works. Good luck! Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: blendlevel Mac-only?
On 16/6/01 5:00 pm, Wilhelm Sanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2.4-Readme does not mention that blendlevel is restricted to the MacOS (and Unix?). Will this feature be available for Windows in the near future? Setting the ink of images to blend under Windows only yields a transparency of about 50, which however cannot be changed by setting a blendlevel. And, will blend ink and blendlevel finally be properties of all objects under Windows, too? It is cross platform. Note that blendLevel is an image property that is not related to the blend ink. Try setting the blendLevel of the image rather than setting the ink to blend. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: stackfiletype oddities
On 22/5/01 10:59 am, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Files generated in this manner are showing up with MetaCard's creator code and file type. Do I need to allow an idle between the time I set this property and when it's used? Seems to work OK here - have you rebuilt your desktop recently? Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Answer dialog: Undocumented feature or risky hack?
On 24/5/01 10:24 am, Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other option is to add a little AI where the script would detect conflicts like this and do a search for appropriate alternatives. No loss of backward compatibility, but the choices the script makes might not be the same ones the developer would make. Any preferences? And if anyone decides to do this, by all means send us the script. It's unlikely we'll get to this one before 2.4 is released. This is already in Revolution's implementation of the answer dialog (we scripted it to use AI). Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: dynamic image paths
On 21/5/01 3:11 pm, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you use answer file to locate a file, and you don't cancel out of it but select a file, MC sets 'the directory' to the one where your selected file resides. Based on that, I would guess it's a good idea to look at directory settings before and after other file-related commands like: ask file save as To me, the following are less suspect because they don't support run-time user navigation via a GUI (if that makes any sense). But maybe they're worth testing: go url file:path to a stack toplevel path to a stack None of these set the directory, and the directory global no longer even affects which directory is displayed first when you use answer file (its an extension to the command instead). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: mouse tracking blues
On 9/6/01 5:44 pm, Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using a repeat loop within a mouseDown handler is how I've done this for years, and how RunRev does a lot of its stuff as well. Jeez, I hope you're wrong about that. This technique is just poor and no advanced scripter should even be tempted to use it. And with the mouseMove message, there's never any need to. Using repeat until event will *never* be as smooth or reliable as doing it the right way, using messages. It's like driving your car around with one foot resting on the brake pedal. I'm not aware of using that technique in Rev - if you can point me to an example please let me know (off list) and I'll investigate why we used it. mouseMove is the way to go, and it takes a very small number of minutes indeed to convert to using a mouseMove handler instead of a repeat until... Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: MC web portal?
On 6/6/01 8:42 pm, Richard Herz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, an *IDEA*. What about MC Corp and/or RunRev posting an MC/Rev access engine (simpler for an interested person to deal with than the Starter Kit). This engine would download a directory from an MC/Rev web portal (and sell advertising, and?). The user could then access all sorts of stacks supplied by many users and developers that display, in an active way, the power of MC: demos, useful things like calendars and calculators, chat/ IM stacks, bulletin boards, etc. This might be a more effective marketing tool than one static screen shot representing each stack. A true, official Revolution Player will be available in the timescale indicated on the schedule on our web site. This will allow you to download a standalone engine we have prepared for each platform, said engine will request a stack or URL when you run it and will have a number of useful Internet library functions built in. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Other programming tools experience
Hi Everyone, Do you have serious experience working with non-xTalk tools? I.e. tools such as PERL, Toolbook, Authorware, RealBasic, C++, Java, VB? Are you experienced in programming with MetaTalk? Any writing skills? Do you have time free to do contract work? Please contact me off list. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
K-12 Experience
Hi Everyone, Do you have experience working with K-12 (junior and high school education)? Might you be available to work on an exciting contract to produce some material for us for K-12? If so, please contact me off list with details of existing products or projects you have worked on. Please include any extra information that would be helpful (like having high-school aged children for example!). Thanks, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Reading raw data
On 12/5/01 5:23 am, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Kann wrote: Richard, if your business analysis is correct why don't you license the engine from Scott as the Revolutionaries are doing, toss in your $10k for the improved GUI, then sell at least a hundred copies of GaskinCard. You could buy that second house instead of Scott. I considered that a while ago, before I learned of Revolution. A third UI in the mix would sorely fragment things, I believe. Rev seems to be coming together well, and it may well satisfy peoples' request for a slicker, more HIG-compliant UI. But until the word spreads about Revolution, there will continue to be feedback on the UI of the sort I was replying to. Well, I would agree that improving the interface is important to improve sales. But there is a lot more to it than that, and the sums involved to bring the UI up to scratch are way out of the $10,000 order of magnitude. Not to mention the work we're doing on databases, K-12 and other areas (as Scott recently mentioned here). The kind of developer that MetaCard appeals to right now isn't going to be much affected by a limited $10,000 UI improvement, and its certainly not enough to bring the user experience up to the mass market level. As far as getting it out there goes, we are certainly doing that. You'll hear more about Revolution after we release it - we have been offered some major and decent publicity, and have are also getting some assistance from the likes of Apple. The lag people have seen since the last beta has been because we're putting proper marketing and support strategies in place to deal with the overwhelming response we've had. We'll release when we're fully ready to do so - Revolution itself is just about done. We'll be at WWDC so please do come along and see us there. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Reading raw data
On 12/5/01 6:53 pm, Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what we'd *really* like to see is for other ISVs to license the engine to build products for markets that MetaCard only tangentially competes in now. The one that's currently really crying out for something like this is K12 education, where the dominant multimedia authoring products like HyperStudio and Digital Chisel are suffering from severe neglect by their owners and are rapidly losing market share to psuedo-alternatives like Powerpoint and HTML editors. And, as you know, this is a top portion of the business model for Revolution - we will be having a K-12 guide pack produced which covers the principals of programming for beginners, as well as focusing some of our marketing on the educational market (e.g. we will be attending major educational trade shows, etc.) Another example is end-user database products like Filemaker and Access which because they lack a decent scripting language are much more limited than something like MetaCard + a database back end would be. Again, this is is a top priority for Revolution and a set of database drivers is going to be rolled out in conjunction with Rev 1.0. Other opportunities include CBT (Computer Based Training) and HTTP server add-ons (though Simon himself at least is working hard on the latter ;-) Not wishing to dissapoint anyone, we're looking at this stuff too... Anyhow, as for RunRev, I can understand a royalty deal, but not leasing the engine, I can't get my mind around how this could help Scott (unless they renew every 3 months!!! =) The license is per-copy, so royalty is a better description of the arrangement. And while I appreciate Richard's concern and desire for us to increase our revenues, he really needn't worry. If the next 9 years are anything at all like the last 9 have been, I'll still be retiring very early ;-) Our aim is to *expand* the MetaCard market and make *new* sales. We have enough beta testers and market data to be able to say with confidence that this is exactly what we expect to happen. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Menu Color?
On 26/4/01 7:50 pm, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to change the backColor of an MC-drawn menu panel? I assume the menu panel is a stack. I tried setting the backColor of the templateStack on mouseDown but this doesn't seem to have any effect. Thanks for any suggestions. The only way I know how to do it is to change the background color of the button. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
SQL, database access?
Hi, We're looking for anyone with experience working with SQL and databases in general. We need someone to work on figuring out and writing cross-platform instructions / sample handlers using sockets to talk to common databases. That *must* be someone's idea of fun? ;-) If you know about this stuff and you have availability in the relatively short term, please contact me off-list. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Screen resolution
On 26/4/01 4:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering a major rewrite of a program that would be greatly simplified if I didn't have to support 640x480 screen resolution. Does anyone have a feel for what percentage of users still use 640x480? I know this would mostly affect Mac users. Very few. We stopped supporting this resolution a long time ago (even for end-user / consumer software) and have had virtually no complaints. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Dialog with timeout
On 25/4/01 7:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a simple way to create a dialog similar to the answer dialog but that disappears after a few seconds? Edit the dialog so that the openStack handler sends a message after a few seconds that closes the dialog. You could even use the existing answer dialog - set a global variable before running the answer command to tell the dialog whether or not it should run this message handler or run normal. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: pointer tool - author mode (2)
On 23/4/01 11:06 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a very simple thingto add a button to the home stack to do this. Make a checkbox called lock messagges set the text align to center set the icon and the hilite icon to those locks on the icon palette put this in the script: on mouseUp set the lockMessages to the hilite of me end mouseUp This doesn't work - lockMessages is reset at the end of the handler. another good one to put on he home stack is selectGroupedControls Or use the toolbar in Rev... and Kevin on 04 May 2000 added responding to the same message: This will be supported from the first release of our development UI., presumably meaning to have such a static mode available in Revolution, which up to date in not the case.- There is indeed no static or author mode connected with the pointer tool, but there is - as announced - a suppress messages button in the development menu. Sorry again. This solution - or the connection with the pointer tool - should be definitely added to Metacard as well. This mode was non-trivial to implement and we didn't connect it to the pointer tool as we thought you wouldn't always want it to be active when in pointer tool mode. Its one click away on the toolbar though. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Bumped from the list
On 15/4/01 3:18 am, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got dropped from the list (again) around 4/7. Does anyone still have the posts from then until now (in either digest or single form)? If so, I'd be grateful to have them compressed into a lump and sent to me. Ok everyone - please don't send "I got bumped from the list" or "test" to the list any more. There isn't anything we can do about it just now so no point in the extra traffic. Such messages are welcome at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Metacard anniversary
On 13/4/01 5:19 pm, Simon Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, is there any reason my posts are getting to the list twice? I've noticed the same thing for a few other people on the list. Hmmm, maybe they are on mac.com also Must be something at your end - everything checks out over here. Perhaps it will simply go away in time? Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! Tel: +44 (0)131 718 4333. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: selecting locked text
On 10/4/01 12:01 am, Craig Spooner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has MC changed the way text can be selected since version 2.3.1? A project I published a year ago now won't allow the following script: select line 1 of fld "column labels" set the textStyle of the selectedText to "plain" I was able to get this to work again only after I turned off the lockText property of the field. Then I realized that the real culprit was the TraversalOn property, which automatically gets turned on when lockText is turned off. Did this change somewhere along the line? Yes, as you have discovered this was changed. The change was deliberate to solve some other issue. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: MC 2.4 a1 is out!
On 6/4/01 6:21 pm, michael kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clone Raney Now Chunk: error in object expression Bad Taken "Raney" Guess that feature didn't make it into 2.4! Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Ask and Answer Clones/How to invoke
On 28/3/01 6:19 am, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to I make sure the "Input" dialog stack opens and not the native/on board "Ask" dialog opens? And will it pass the data to the variable it, regardless of the stack name? This isn't supported - you would need to write a custom command or function that opens the dialog, and rewrite the dialog slightly to read in data from that command / function (e.g. it could set a custom property on the stack). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: List auto-unsubscribe? (was OS X)
On 28/3/01 7:43 pm, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That has happened to me several times over the last few months. The last time was earlier this month: I received MC list mail normally until I responded to a message. For the rest of that day I still received MC list mail, but starting the next day I was apparently no longer subscribed. Go figger. And of course now I'll have to check tomorrow and see if I'm still subscribed. :-\ If your email server returns a terminal error delivering a certain number of times, you will be auto-suspended. I know a handful of people have written in about this, but given the number of subscribers we have its really not many as a percentage. The software is perhaps a little too sensitive but we haven't got the resources to change software at this time. One thing we could do is go through and send you an email if your subscription is suspended in this way: would that be helpful? If you get unsubscribed, you could try finding a different ISP and subscribe with that - this generally seems to work. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: please stop posting html-format ?
On 21/3/01 7:05 pm, Blair Moxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the only address for posts. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Player References
On 13/3/01 8:24 am, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to set the fileName of a player to an audio clip contained (imported) within a stack? I'm trying to set up a structure to play multiple channels of audio in a stack that is accessed over the Internet. My understanding is that the player object is the way to achieve this, but the player appears only able to reference files that reside externally from the stack. I'd rather not have to separate the audio files from my stacks because multiple files makes the download process more complex to manage. Any suggestions? You can't do this. You could download everything in one file by storing these files as custom properties then saving them all out after downloading. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Mask an Image
On 11/3/01 6:20 am, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way in MC to mask/clip the display of an image so that only a portion of the image is visible? I'm trying to build a curved progress meter which was created as an antialised image. The only way I can think of making it "move" was to have an off (empty) state and an on (full) state and use type of masking to progressively display the on state above the off state. In SuperCard you can clip the display of an image (pictureData) by displaying it within a draw graphic, using any shape from a circle to a polygon. The only similar mechanism in MC that I'm aware of is setting the icon of a button, but apparently, MC only supports rectangular buttons and the contained image moves if the button is resized. So, any way to create a resizable mask for an image? Yes, but only if the image is the of a width and height such that it can be used as a pattern. You can set the backPattern property of a curve or polygon and change the points. To recap on the rules for images used as patterns: Pattern images can be color or black-and-white. To be used on MacOS systems, patterns must be 128x128 pixels or less, and both height and width must be a power of 2. To be used on Windows and Unix systems, height and width must be divisible by 8. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: pdf
On 6/3/01 7:58 pm, Sadhunathan Nadesan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it's more like : something to manage a collection of these forms. Be able to save and recall instances of filled out forms, or at least the data that was extracted from them, be able to pull up a blank one, fill it in, print, submit, save, that sort of thing. You can load and print from MetaCard. I'm not sure about filling them in: that would depend on whether or not Acrobat allows another application to communicate with it to fill in the forms. That would be either AppleEvents (Mac) or DDE (Windows) but would depend entirely on whether or not Adobe have implemented that as a feature in Acrobat Reader. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Grey Printing?
On 3/3/01 4:32 pm, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my situation, I am only printing fifty or so fields with a line or two of text. There are no graphics of any kind on the card that is being printed. The computers that print this out are in millions of colors mode as well. If you like you could send me a copy of the stack off-list and I can try it with our network printer. Putting a white graphic behind the fields sounds like a hack that might work well. Only time will tell as the problem is not consistent either. I'd be interested to know if this works! Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: FTP'ing Linux MC distribution up to remote server...
On 1/3/01 10:12 am, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoping someone on the list can help with this. I need to ftp the Linux MC engine up onto a clients server, and I can't unstuff it! I can untar it, but it is the GNU Zip format that is causing me the problem. I am working on a Mac, and if I unstuff the downloaded Linux distribution with Stuffit Expander and then ftp it the file gets corrupted. I've had this headache before, and I am sure someone else is likely to in the future, so an answer posted to the list should be useful reference for everyone. I guess I need to know how: 1) To unstuff the distribution properly on the Mac The latest version of Stuffit on the Mac does this OK for me. Be sure that when you upload you have your ftp client set to binary afterwards. 2) Better - know how to use Telnet to see if I can unzip the file on the server. gunzip whateverfile.gz The latter I am sure is straight forward particularly with the included shell scripts, but I guess this is dependent on the machine the other end having the right application to unzip it, and my knowing the path? Usually it seems to just work. But if not you can always upload a gunzip program too. If you have telnet access, another way of doing it is ftp transferring the file direct from the MC site to the destination server, then doing all the unpacking on the command line over there and deleting the extra files. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: large cursor
On 27/2/01 9:28 am, Sjoerd Op 't Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course (hehe) there is a workaround for this: On second thoughts, the most efficient way to do this (same principal just a bit faster) would be using a mouseMove handler. on mouseMove x,y set the loc of image "cursorPicture" to x,y end mouseMove Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: large cursor
On 27/2/01 9:28 am, Sjoerd Op 't Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on idle -- always (well, most of the time) set the loc of image "cursorPicture" to the mouseLoc -- places the -- middle of the image to the location of the mouse end idle Also, see the article on our old web site www.xworlds.com on "send vs idle" for a more efficient way of doing this. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Overriding QT's behavior
On 23/2/01 8:47 pm, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an app in which I have a QT movie AND I need to do unique things when the user presses the Return key. It seems that QT is overriding the Return key, using it to toggle movie playback; it ignores the Enter key, which lets me do what I need. How can I get control of the Return key back from QT? Turn off traversalOn. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: New development system - Revolution 1.0 public beta
On 21/2/01 7:44 pm, michael kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has Metacard now become Revolution, or are they two separate entities? They are separate products. However, Revolution is based on the MetaCard engine and thus the file format / language is 100% compatible. (And of course we plan to continue to update our development environment to use new engine releases.) Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: RevolutionBeta
On 21/2/01 9:16 pm, michael kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at the Revolution beta and have a couple of questions. First, is there any new functionality beyond Metacard, or is it a new interface? Its a new interface (with new documentation). Second, is there a way to step through the cards in the Transcript Dictionary? Thanks in advance. You can search the cards using the field at the top, and there is an index. There isn't a way to navigate card to card. You could use the message box to change card too. BTW, please send Revolution related questions to the Revolution mailing list. Thanks! Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
New development system - Revolution 1.0 public beta
Hi Folks, Our MetaCard-based development system finally enters public beta testing! Here is the press release. Regards, Kevin -- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT Kevin Miller Runtime Revolution Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Phone: +44 131 672 2909 Fax: +44 1639 830 707 Preview of New Development System, Revolution 1.0 - Launched by Runtime Revolution Ltd. Edinburgh, Scotland, Wednesday 21st Feb 2001. A preview of Revolution 1.0, a state-of-the-art rapid application development system, has just been released by Runtime Revolution Ltd., in public beta test form. Runtime Revolution is inviting developers, computer professionals, educational users and hobbyists - in fact, anyone who writes, designs or has an interest in creating computer software - to try out this preview version and provide feedback. Users may download a copy from Runtime's web site http://www.runrev.com/. This preview version is free for any type of use, but will expire when the testing program is completed. "Revolution represents many years of painstaking design, development and refinement." said Kevin Miller, Runtime's Managing Director. "Not only have we made development and product maintenance easier than ever before, but we've done it on every major computer platform. Revolution at last delivers true power to the developer with the ability to write once and play anywhere. We're very excited to release this eagerly awaited preview version!" The Revolution development system allows users to easily and rapidly create powerful Internet-enabled applications and solutions which can then be delivered on MacOS, Windows, Linux, and popular UNIX systems. (Support for MacOS X is planned.) Utilizing a state-of-the-art high-level scripting language called Transcript, Revolution allows more efficient application prototyping and development than is possible with any more traditional (third generation) language. Revolution includes an unprecedented set of features: from the basics such as support for standard interface objects including buttons, text, bitmap (including GIF, JPEG and PNG) and vector graphics; to support for QuickTime and QuickTime VR (on MacOS and Windows systems); through to more advanced support for associative arrays and text pattern matching; and even full script level support for Internet sockets (a basic client-server application can be written in less than 10 lines of script); Revolution represents an essential tool for every developer. Once the testing program is complete, the final version will be available as a number of different license types, from only $25 for a K-12 educational license (minimum purchase of ten) to the top end professional license at $995. Hobbyists are not forgotten, either. The Starter Kit Edition, which allows access to a restricted set of features, is completely free. Users are only required to purchase one license to author with Revolution on all supported platforms. The preview version contains the complete professional edition feature set, together with its generous end user/publisher license. This allows royalty free commercial distribution of software developed with Revolution on all supported platforms. Runtime Revolution Ltd. (formerly Cross Worlds Computing) is committed to the development of cutting edge professional programming software and engaging educational applications. For more information about the company and its products visit their website at http://www.runrev.com/ or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Revolution and Runtime Revolution are trademarks of Runtime Revolution Ltd. Other company and product names may be trademarks of their respective owners. # # # Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: compression type-creator code
On 22/2/01 7:31 am, Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to eliminate this last step (setting the TC code) so that the decompressed file is usable right away after decompressing with 'StuffIt Expander'? Set the fileType global before putting into the URL - it will then use create the file with that signature. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: commandkeydown
On 21/2/01 10:19 pm, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, on the Mac the commandKeyDown message is only sent when a key is pressed with the commandKey, but on Windows the message is sent when the control key is pressed by itself too. Really? I did not know that! Is this also the case for Unix? Yes. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: purposefully mysterious organization
On 22/2/01 7:56 pm, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today's www.macintouch.com describes Runtime Revolution as a "...purposefully mysterious organization..." I feel like such an insider! :-) Yeah, I'd love to know what made them write that. But then, they are the press - you never can tell! As to their comment on collecting personal information...I won't even start. I mean, you type in your name and you press submit - and we didn't tell you that this meant we had personal info about you? :-) Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Two-computer games
On 19/2/01 7:37 pm, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will check with Kevin to see if he will host it. Kevin? To run or to download? Please send me the stack/basic info, off list. Thanks, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how to update delivered stacks script limit
On 17/2/01 9:41 am, Ernst Michael Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hm, and you believe that this is the only and effective safety lock which prevents to create and sell a competing product? Yes. Unless you can come up with some other, equally reliable solution! So far no one has ;-) Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how to update delivered stacks script limit
On 14/2/01 9:29 pm, Ernst Michael Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at all - you can normally copy in and out objects that need to be updated. Or even entire stacks or substacks. Or distribute in multiple files. The only script its a little hard to update is the mainStack script itself. What about the data in a bg fld which is on lets say 500 cards??? If you cut the fld and copy one in with the updated script - where is the data??? I think in that case it would be easier to replace the stack. wouldnt it be easier to set the script How can you allow that to happen while preventing someone from producing a competitor to MetaCard that is simply a MetaCard standalone? I.e. purchase one copy of MetaCard and use it to create and sell a competing product? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how to update delivered stacks script limit
On 7/2/01 11:33 pm, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we read this correctly that means you cannot swap out the project script. . .since that is not an "object" per se. Not without replacing the entire stack. You can place an object with a new message into the message path using a frontScript, but I wouldn't recommend this technique as it would be hard to keep track of, maintain and debug. I guess card scripts could be changed copying in the card and deleting the old card. True? Or are the swappable objects limited to "controls." No, cards can be swapped too. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Recognizing the platform
On 9/2/01 1:52 am, John Kiltinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However I would like the ink setting to be right when the stack opens. When I include these same lines in a "on preopenStack" or a "on openCard" handler, it doesn't seem to work. Specifically, the stack was created on a Mac. When I first open it under Windows, with this ink-setting script in either of the preopenStack or the openCard handlers, the stack opens with the Mac's ink settings. Is it the case that the stack cannot query to find out the platform this early? If so, does anyone have a suggestion as to how to achieve the objective of starting with the right platform-specific settings? This should work: please could you post the script? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how to update delivered stacks script limit
On 8/2/01 10:34 pm, Ernst Michael Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin and others, the problem was to change a script in an delivered stackand the scriptLimit Yes. My solution was intended to address this exact problem. I hope its no blasphemy or something awfull... but what about taking a copy of a licensed homestack, shortening it down to a useless thing that only shows a modal window at startup with to buttons: "updateStack x" and "quit" and which is passwordprotected. Could anybody do something with it??? This is definately *not* allowed under the terms of the MetaCard license! The licensed version of that stack is "per named individual" and must not be redistributed in any form! Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: how to update delivered stacks script limit
On 7/2/01 4:21 pm, Ernst Michael Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how to update delivered stacks??? if they contain userData you have to make something like exportImport routines if you send the whole stack/s to the client... but what if you just find a small bug in a script??? I tried to write an updater which sets the wrong script to the right script it works well while testing it with my registered homestack open... but not when its closed even when I make a standalone with my registered version the updateprocess causes a scriptLimiterror if the altered script is longer than I think this 10-line-limit Right: this is the only limitation on standalones, they revert to the Starter Kit limits. Otherwise you could write a product that competes with MetaCard and sell it as a standalone. The solution to this type of problem is to replace the entire object by copying it in and deleteing the old one (being careful to set stuff like the layer or grouping it if necessary). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: universal mouseMove?
On 2/2/01 2:07 pm, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mouseMove message is exactly what I'm looking for as a solution to something I'm working on, but with one drawback for my needs: it is only sent when the mouse moves inside of a MetaCard window; once outside, the message is no longer sent. Any know a native MetaTalk way to trap mouse movement anywhere on the screen, even outside of MC windows, so long as MC is in front? The only way I can think of doing it would be to use a send...in handler with a short interval to check the screenMouseLoc. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Default font in Windows
On 2/2/01 5:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running MC 2.3.2 and something has changed on my system (Win 98) since I last ran MC. For some reason the font used when an object's font is "None" is different on this machine than it used to be. I can run the exact same MC.EXE from a different workstation (MC is on a network drive) and the text displays correctly. Am I missing a font perhaps? Do you have Helvetica installed? That is the default font but if it is not installed MC will substitute Arial. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Ask ans Answer dialog
On 2/2/01 6:24 pm, Rick Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a stack a couple of MC versions ago. When I run it now and attempt to use the Ask or Answer dialog I get an error mesage. The only way out is to quit MC. I'm working on a Mac. I had used the resource mover on the original stack to create a standalone. Use the resource mover to delete the old resources and then copy in the new ones. You'll need to do this whenever an engine change affects the way these dialogs work or the dialogs get upgraded (which happened recently). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: MC on Windows and the same stack opened several times
On 29/1/01 6:46 pm, Ernst Michael Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but what if windows crashes - MC has not closed - has not deleted the file - and wouldnt open again Thats a common problem with this type of application: the warning dialog usually has instructions for deleting the file in that event. is there no function in MC to get the running apps?? Not that I know of. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: empty clipboard
On 25/1/01 11:03 pm, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. How do you empty out the contents of the clipboard? Have tried various things, but have found no better way then to copy a blank space from a field. Is there another way? Try: select empty copy Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: MC on Windows and the same stack opened several times
On 28/1/01 9:25 pm, Ernst Michael Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how to prevent that the same stack is opened several times on a Windows machine? As I remember that was not possible on a Mac but it is on Windows... ...how can I get the "running programs" - there was something in HC One way you could do it (any platform) is to create a "lock file" that prevents multiple copies being run. The idea is simple: on loading, create a text file in a specific place (e.g. the same directory as the stack). On closing, delete the file. On startUp, if the file exists, put up an error message that the program is already running, and exit. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: directory not working for answer file on Mac OS 9.1?
On 23/1/01 12:29 am, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With Nav Services under Mac OS 9.1 (maybe earlier, I haven't tested) the
first example does not work. The second one does, but in a perfect world
I'd like to set the directory once at startup to provide a convenient
default, but if the user navigates to other folders I kinda hate to keep
making them start out at the first one each time they click my control.
If the second form ("with") works, shouldn't the first one? That is, as
long as the directory has been set, shouldn't MC use that to instruct Nav
Services?
No - this was actually changed on all platforms a while ago and is not
related to the OS 9.1 update. The reason is that the dialogs should
automatically re-open to the last directory they closed at. So you need to
specify a directory as part of the command to override this.
Regards,
Kevin
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Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, ShockwaveVersions
On 19/1/01 8:05 pm, Ruslan Zasukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand reaction of Simon, which decide that this is just spam. Valentina is new for Metacard community, so probably many people are not aware yet that actually Paradigma offers a product for Metacard developers -- Valentina XCMD (VXCMD) as for MAC so for Windows. We do release of the WHOLE product line. This means that release 1.8.7 offers improvements and fixes to VXCMD users also. On the other hand, it's nice to get information about Metacard-related products. We're not exactly swamped with them. :) I also think so, there is nothing bad to get announcement on list of new products and updates which will help you work. My opinion on this is that such an announcement is *not* spam, that this kind of information is useful and relevant to this list. Nor is it all that important that every *single* post that goes to this list be exactly on topic: the vast majority are, and in general I think its helpful to have a relaxed policy - people use this list as a general development resource. For example, asking questions about monitor resolutions and modem speeds are not *precisely* related to MetaCard, but are so useful and close to the subject that I wouldn't think for a moment to try to interfere with them. Finally, as a general point, I think the best place to protest about spam, or other unwanted posts of any description, is my mail box - rather than this list... Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Running MetaCard based CGIs
On 12/1/01 12:49 am, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be very interested but haven't got much money to spend. The problem is I don't know how to do it yet so I really need some way to practice before I go telling clients what I can do. It would be good if you could host a practice CGI bin or a demo script that we could post to and recieve email results from. Once I learn I will be able to get money for this kind of service. Sorry for being overly demanding but I think there would be others in my situation. So for you it might in fact be more useful to have cheap or free access to an area where you could simply test out CGI scripts to see how they work? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Vector images
On 9/1/01 9:59 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back there were some requests for MetaCard to support vector graphics. This would help me a lot in print quality. Has there been any effort or plans for MC to support vector images in the near future? MetaCard does support vector graphics, though its not so good on the import / export front. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: MC 2.3.2 640x480 resolution problem
On 11/1/01 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With 2.3.2, in the 640x480 resolution, my project is pushed downward by the exact vertical height of the menubar on the mac when the menubar is hidden. This did not occur with 2.3.1 on mac or at all on the PC in both versions. How do I get around this shift down problem in 2.3.2 on the Mac? Check the new windowBoundingRect property and set it to the screenRect if necessary. Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Vector images
On 11/1/01 4:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What format of vector graphics? Its own - you can draw them with the built in tools or set the points properties by script. On some UNIX systems (if they have display postscript installed) you can also display EPS. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Import of vector drawings
On 11/1/01 8:13 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be *extremely* useful for me if I could take something like an Illustrator file, or a PICT, or a vector PDF and convert it into whatever format MC uses. The idea of MC using its own format is fine if I could do a conversion from these other formats and not have to redraw each one. There is one workaround: The only method I know of to import a PICT as vector graphics is to paste it into SuperCard - which splits the image up into individual parts, then export that and import it using the SC to MC converter. I have used this method in the past. You could probably write a script in SC to speed the whole process up: import and export a batch of PICT files as lists of points in a text file and just import and recreate the graphics in MC. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Running MetaCard based CGIs
Hi, We are considering launching a service to allow hosting of MC based CGIs. If anyone would be interested in such a service, please could they email me off list with a brief list of the sort of requirments you might expect. How much would you expect to pay? What would the CGI do? Would you want to host your entire site with a domain name pointing to our IP address or would you host the site elsewhere and refer CGI requests to our site? What kind of disk and processor requirements might be involved? The idea is still up in the air, just trying to nail down what kind of a demand there might be out there. If this is something you might be interested in then please do send me an email - obviously no demand = no service! :-) Thanks for any info anyone provides... Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Results of using FIND command etc.
On 7/1/01 10:35 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: send mouseUp after the select command Or: find empty Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: graphic handles
On 8/1/01 8:43 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the help. I'd also like to double click with the pointer tool to bring up a custom palette. I'm sure Kevin would have done this. Its very simple: insert the scripts you need into the front. E.g. on mouseDoubleUp if the tool is "pointer tool" then palette "my properties palette" end if end mouseDoubleUp Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Folder for stacks
On 5/1/01 8:54 am, Signe Marie Sanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I have worked extensively with MetaCard for several years, I still have not found the answers to the following. Would someone please enlighten me? 1. Is it necessary that the files mchome, mc.exe (or metacard on Mac), mc.tools and mchelp always are in the same folder as the application you work on? (I usually start an application with "toplevel mystack") What about aliases of the engine or mchome, or full path for the application? In order to do development work, mchome, mctools must be in the same folder as the MC application. Of course, you can make an alias to the MC application and put that anywhere. 2. What about the files MC external and MC externalData, what are they for? Can they be removed? Only useful if you are writing externals. Otherwise you don't need them. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Quick password question
On 4/1/01 2:22 pm, Leston Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once you set a password for a stack, you have to enter that password to view/modify scripts each time you open the stack. Is it possible to permanently "un-password" the stack so that you don't have to enter it every time? or is the password permanent? Yes, set the passkey so that you can access the stack, then set the password to empty. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Mac to PC
On 3/1/01 4:00 am, Dale Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used ZipIt 1.4 on the Mac, saving the file to a PC diskette. When I get time I'll try Stuffit 6.0 on a new attempt at standalone stacks. It looks like Mac created stacks sent through the net open fine on diverse Windows machines. I'm encouraged. :) We want to see how the process works in reverse yet. I have had issues with ZipIt and long since gave up using it. You have to set various options that seem to be automatic in Stuffit. So that could be it. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Just What Does Password Protect/Inhibit?
On 23/12/00 1:43 am, Peter Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) So what does password protecting a stack inhibit: (snip) You can create objects, but I think the restriction you are running into is that you can't copy objects (the only other restriction I know is that you can't get or set scripts). If you could, then you could copy password protected objects into a non-password protected stack and thus access the scripts. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: QTVR (was : Hello + question)
On 2/1/01 12:41 pm, jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MetaCard's support of QuickTime does include QTVR. It's a great implementation too: you can control the pan, tilt, and other QTVR. Thanks for the tip. That's pretty good news, although I didn't find any info on that matter in the MC help stacks (I've downloaded the 2.3.1 for Mac)... For instance, the Player object properties doesn't mention any property associated with pan or tilt of a QTVR movie... I will run some experiments with a player and QTVR files, but where can I find complete doc about QT implementation in MC ? The support for QTVR is new so the best place to get documentation about it is the read me. Make sure you have version 2.3.2 build 6 - thats the latest version (not 2.3.1): ftp://ftp.metacard.com/MetaCard/MacOS.sit Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Opening one stack from another
On 13/12/00 1:47 pm, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you'll excuse the naive question, but I'm having trouble opening one stack from another. I'm trying to create a splash screen with stack X which will then open stack Y, so I tried this in the stack script of X: on openStack wait 2 seconds go to stack "Y" end openStack It doesn't work. Stack Y resides in the same folder as stack X. I also tried referring to stack Y as stack "Y.mc", and I included stack Y in stack X's "Stack files..." as well. Should I have specified the full path name of stack Y? Does the article on using stackFiles (class 3) on our web site help? I've also been reading about modes but am finding the online documentation a little obtuse. I'd like the splash screen (stack X) to appear without a title bar or close box. How can I do that? set the decorations of stack "x" to empty Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Option menu question
On 12/12/00 8:51 am, Hugh Senior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about setting the menuHistory to the line number of the option you want as the default, does this do the trick? e.g. set the menuHistory of button theOptions to thePreset set the label of button theOptions \ to line thePreset of the text of button theOptions Sorry, Peter... This does not seem to work. Does anyone else have any insights? It works here. This is definately an option menu, and you are setting the menuHistory to a number? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: central repository for web related metacard examples
On 10/12/00 9:34 pm, michael kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would really like to see a list of commands that can be used with the DDE external found in the wonderful set of externals by Tuviah Snyder. I have searched on the Internet for commands and syntax that I might use with this external, but haven't had any luck. This one external would sell the whole package if people knew how to use it. What are you trying to do? Perhaps someone on this list can help point you to instructions for whatever it is? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: central repository for web related metacard examples
On 11/12/00 1:02 pm, michael kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found the Metaclass tutorials at Kevin's site to be very helpful. Would it be possible to put one together on Sockets and the Use of Metacard as a Browser? Within the tutorial there might be links to working scripts. I agree heartily with Kevin that they are doing a good job of organizing contributions. More explanations for the contributions would be valuable. We do plan an article on sockets, but currently we're too busy finishing of that other product and moving our web site, so it will be a short while yet. Thanks for the suggestion! Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: 256 Color support
On 10/12/00 8:45 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about this latest problem and playing with it on my desktop running Win 98 and have found that on it when the colors are set to 256 the button icons will display but the armed buttons instead of being a beep blue are a slightly lighter shade of grey. I can't find any function that will return the color bit level. Should I post a bug report or is this something I'm doing wrong. I'm now confused because the button icons display on my computer but on on the old laptop at 256 colors. Sound like a video card issue: the report should be sent to the maker of the video card (see the read me file for the latest version of MC for a comment on this type of issue). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Layering a field over a Movie Player
On 11/12/00 10:05 pm, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to apply a text field over a player object - in order to see the text? This would be like credits or titles in a movie or video. Once they are layered over the top - it will be easy to apply many neat effects. Any ideas? Yes, you need to turn alwaysBuffer on for the player first though. (Which means it can only be controlled by script - mouse interaction with the controller won't work.) Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: central repository for web related metacard examples
On 9/12/00 3:28 pm, Sound Medicine, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so thrilled to see the explosion of internet connectivity stacks and discussions. I wish I had the skill that so many of you show in your knowledge and programing. There are a few example stacks scattered here and there on the net for which we should be very grateful to the authors. I would like to offer a site where all MC related internet conectivity stacks can be centralized for downloading by neophytes like myself. Anyone with anything they are willing to offer the community at large can place them there for free access. Is this redundant? Unneccessary? If folks are interested I'd be happy to set it up and post the links around. Let me know. Peter We host such a site: just email in a stack and we'll post it. We will shortly be upgrading our facilities to offer ftp upload and download (thats not quite there yet). So I think adding another site would be redundant. Or is there something our site doesn't / won't do that you are looking for? Perhaps we could add that? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Hyperlinks
On 28/11/00 8:33 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen that but I really want to do something so simmilar to teh reference that it would be silly for me not to look at the script. Does anyone know where the mouseClick script is in the reference stack? edit script of stack "Help directory" Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Popup buttons
On 28/11/00 5:47 pm, Jacqueline Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What settings should I use in a popup button to make its menu drop down aligned to the left side of the button? I see that menu buttons placed in a menu group always drop down with the correct alignment, but when a popup button is on the card the menu is drawn at the location of the mouse. This is on a Mac. Use pulldown instead. Also, how come I can't set some of the other button styles? I seem to remember being able to set combo buttons in the past, for example, but now those options don't work. The style always reverts back to popup in the properties dialog. Works here - does it work if you just create a new button and change style? Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Hyperlinks
On 29/11/00 8:53 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I halso have one more question on this subject or perhaps on general message heirachy. I can not find a frontscript or backscript message for this handler and it also works when you open these stacks directly so how is this happening. How is the script of an unopen uncalled stack suddenly int the message heirachy? object - group - card - stack - mainStack - home - engine The Help Directory stack is the mainStack of all the help stacks. Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: MC cgi
On 23/11/00 12:50 pm, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to use metacard as a server on a web hosted by a third party? ie I assume I can't get my ISP to host my web and place mc in it to run cgi and mt scripts. Yes, but only with some ISPs. You need to ask them if you can run an executable on their server: and the vast majority will say no. It tends to be possible when you have a dedicated server package, though those are more expensive and require lots of maintenance (thats what we use). Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Helper Apps or Intelligent Agents
On 23/11/00 1:04 pm, Gregory Lypny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an example (or can anyone direct me to the relevant help resources) of a MetaCard stack that can access a web site and extract specific information from a web page? Use the URL commands to download the page, then you can treat the html that is returned as text and parse in the normal way. For example: put URL "http://www.xworlds.com/" into tVar set the htmlText of fld 1 to tVar --remove html tags ask "Search term?" if it is in fld 1 then answer "text found" else answer "text not found" Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
