Re: [newbie] help me please(internet)
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Can some please help me . l'v tried to connect to the internet with Mandrake 6.5 | everything go,s well press connect and then it happens "initializing program" (or something like that ) and then nothing. and now l'm left with windoze lnter explorer.(great). thanx. | | | G@vin | -- | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: The most dificult part of this responce is reading thru the HTML. I use a text-only mail reader, and I'd appreciate it if you would turn off the HTML when sending to this list, it'll save me a headache or two. If you are using kppp to connect to the internet, you can click the setup button , then the Modem tab, then the Query modem button to make sure that you are accessing the modem. You should get a window indicating the responces from your modem which will include the modem name, firmware version, features, etc. You must also set up your modem to dial your ISP - if you use AOL, there may be a problem, but I'm not sure of that - and DNS info etc. If you do not get the previously indicated information, you should make sure that kppp is trying to use the ttys port (COM port) your modem is connected on. If you are using a winmodem (most PCI modems are Winmodems), sorry you are out of luck - they do not work with Linux as far as I know. If you do not use KDE or the kppp utility, I can not be of much help since I have been using kppp since I started using Mandrake - it's just so easy to set up and I'm sooo lazy! HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Warren Doney wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Use the "utilities" box on the panel, it should roll over into another menu "more" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Yeah...it _should_ but it _don't_ I didn't say use K-Utilities, i said the utilities box _on_ the panel, which does wrap as needed. I was talking about the utilities box _on_ the panel, was running it @ (15") 1024 x foo couldn't see the .more bit. Guess the guy who did the menu had a 17" Monitor forgot about 15" 14" Notebooks I'd recon it's only a 15, the thing is he didn't install everything thus filling it up :) Maybe... I recall a thread on this a while ago, something about using the menu editor to split the utilities menu in half, but when I tried it I got the Gnome utilities menu, not the KDE. If i remeber right the editor is in utilities i can see how that could be a big problem Funny thing, It worked this time :o maybe you have to be root I was usr. I usually launch apps from konsole or right clicking the screen to get a box, but it would be nice to know how to fix this.. I prefer alt-f2 when useing kde's wm I do too...now :) thanks. I now have an item on my menu called "the rest" Hey - that World Watch thing is cool, I've been half looking for an app like that, as I can never remember what the time difference is between NZ--USA :o) -Warren.
[newbie] kde upgrade
To upgrade kde from 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 is "kdebase-1.1.2-9mdk.i586.rpm" sufficient, or are any other packages needed? Thanks in advance.:) Regards Eero
Re: [newbie] Kernel
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Martin Cleaver wrote: | | Okay, I downloaded and installed the new kernel I suppose... but it gives me this cryptic message about changing lilo.conf. Unfortunately it does not tell me WHAT to change. It may sound silly, but I use Mandrake because I don't WANT to have to change things like lilo.conf, and if I am to, I will need very precise instructions... :-( | | I sound like a newbie, am a newbie and want to remain a newbie... life's too short... Can anyone help me with the necessary change and also ask the powers that be to be a little more informative in the future? | | Rgds | | Martin | | | -- | Martin Cleaver MC Translations | +31 (20) 6162224 fax: +31 (20) 8841230 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cleaver.nl | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Martin, As reguards your newbie status, I am afraid that you will have to get your hands a little dirty from time to time if you want to add things such as a new kernel. This is the nature of Linux, and it can not be helped. If you use KDE, log on as the root user, open a kfm window, and navigate to the /etc folder. You can drag the left edge of the kfm window to the right to expose a tree display of your filesystem's folders. If you left-click a right-pointing arrow, it will become a down-pointing arrow, and any sub-folders will be displayed. To get to /etc you may need to click the /root (/) arrow to expand the tree then click the /etc folder icon. In the right display area, folders will be displayed first then files. Scroll down untill you see the file lilo.conf, right-click it, and in the pop-up menu, select "Text Editor". This will open a simple text editor with the lilo.conf file displayed. You will want to select the entire section labeled "image=" then with this section still highlighted select "Edit copy", then move the curser to the bottom of the file, select "Edit paste". This will duplicate the image= section of your lilo.conf file. Now edit the LINE image=/boot/vmlinuz-*mdk to match the version information for the new kernel - for example if you have version 2.2.13-7mdk and your updated kernel is version 2.2.13-22mdk, you will change the line from image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-7mdk to image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-22mdk. You will also need to change the next line label=* to indicate a unique label name, perhaps "new kernel". You can use any label you wish, but for practicality's sake, you will want to keep the labels short and sweet. As you can see, I have edited my lilo.conf file to use "l" for Linux, and "w" for DOS (Windows 95). When I add a second kernel, I simply use the letter "k" for the new label (my own preference). Save the edited file when you are finished, and open a console window. Use the "su" command to become the superuser (without the quotes), you will need to provide your root password then. Finally, enter "lilo", (again without the quotes). This will write the updated information to the boot loader, and you will then be able to choose either the new kernel or the old one if you wish. To finish up, enter "su regular username" to close the superuser session, then close the console window. This procedure sounds more complex that it is, and I told you to add the second label and such so you could get back into Linux with the old kernel if there are any problems with the new one. After you have used the new kernel for a few days or a week or so, if you decide you want to continue using the new kernel exclusively, you can remove the information in /etc/lilo.conf which addresses the old kernel, and re-run lilo to write the changes to the boot loader. Filally, you can remove the files related to the old kernel in the /boot folder - but be carefull not to remove anything which may be used by the new kernel. Only those files which contain the old kernel's version number in their names are safe to remove. Bear in mind that I am a relative new user too and while this information is correct to the best of my knowlege, I may be in error or have forgotten something. Give it a day or two to see if any one else has corrective information for you, then the next step is up to you. boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b prompt linear timeout=50 other=/dev/hda1 label=w table=/dev/hda image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-7mdk - label=l| root=/dev/hda5| image= section - duplicate 5 lines append="mem=80M"| read-only - HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] Star Office won't connect
| Dennis, | | I am not trying to be smart or anything like that, but did you connect with | pppd first? Or perhaps kppp? It has been my experience that Linux does not | automate things like connecting to the web for you. Personally I like this | policy. It takes a little more concious thought on my part, but in the end I am | more secure with my system. Make sure that you are connected to your ISP then | try the SO51a stuf again. | | HTH, | | Ernie | | Ernie, | I should have said that I was already connected. Just now I got a | different message that SO was unable to connect to the pop3 server and | then it crashed when I clicked retry. Now it has evidently damaged | something because SO will not launch. This has happened before and | forced me to re-install. I dunno what is going on. Thanks. | -- | Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA | Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. Appologies, I mis understood. Look in the untar'd distribution for the SO51a installer, and see if there is an uninstall script (seems to me the readme said something about removing). If there is run it - I think it should remove all the SO51a files from your system. If there is not, check the Sun site where you downloaded the .tar file for removal information. In either case, make sure you do the removal as the same user as when you did the install. Then while logged on as a regular user, try re-installing again. I know there is a security issue with installing as "root" - and it is not a good idea. I do not know enough either about Linux or SO51a to be of any more help than this - sorry. Ernie
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | Ernie, | | I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 | MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config | and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking | now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct | settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to | scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. I am not familiar with the Kingston VRAM upgrade - I wonder if this is the source of the problem? I have a PCI video card which uses the GD5430 chipset, and 2 meg EDO RAM and all works well. Hrmmm ... are you able to remove the Kingston VRAM upgrade from the MB? If nothing else, this may tell you if this is where the problem is comming from. If not, maybe someone with greater knowlege than I can tell you how to get X-Windows to understand the VRAM on the MB. Sorry I can not be of any more help. Ernie | | Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like | the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. | | I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... | | PLEASE HELP, I'm feeling like this was a huge waste of time and money and I | really want this to work for experience sake. | | Sam ROza | | I will try starting in Linux 3 and running setup | - Original Message - | From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:35 AM | Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. | | | On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | | Hello All, | | | | I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. | | | | Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until | I got | | to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am | installing on | | a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the | installation) | | and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). | | | | The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so | messed | | up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video | | settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few | times | | before I got a successful install. | | | | Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited | | knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, | and | | run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's | settings, and | | having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), | but then | | the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I | can | | read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... | | | | I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could | see | | the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! | | | | | | | | | | | | Regards, | | | | Sam Roza | | Lead Customer Service Representative | | (408) 527-2926 | | GE Capital - IT Solutions | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sam, | | When you start your system, at the LILO prompt try "linux 3" (without the | quotes). This will start you in the command line mode. Then try "setup" | (again | without the quotes) as the "root" user. Now you can select the option to | set up | the X-server for your system. You will need to know the verticle and | horizontal | refresh rates for your monitor, as well as the information for your video | controler. If you have this information available, use it and do not probe | the | video device. I have heard that this has helpped several users get things | set | up ok. | | HTH, | | Ernie |
Re: [newbie] Netscape questions...
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | How do you get NutScrape to load all images in a web page without having to | click them, or right click and ask to have them loaded? | | Oh, one more thing...how do you create a new user from root? | | Thank a million! | | Sam Roza From a command line as the superuser enter, useradd name where name is the new user name for the new user account. Next, also as superuser, and from a command line enter, passwd name where name is the same new user name as above. You will be prompted with "New Unix password", at which point you should enter the password you wish to use with the new name. You will then be prompted to re-type the password. Do so, and you should get a responce such as: all authentication tokens updated successfully then you will be returned to the root prompt. That's all there is to it. You can now log in as the new user. HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Warren Doney wrote: Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Use the "utilities" box on the panel, it should roll over into another menu "more" -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Yeah...it _should_ but it _don't_ I didn't say use K-Utilities, i said the utilities box _on_ the panel, which does wrap as needed. Guess the guy who did the menu had a 17" Monitor forgot about 15" 14" Notebooks I'd recon it's only a 15, the thing is he didn't install everything thus filling it up :) I recall a thread on this a while ago, something about using the menu editor to split the utilities menu in half, but when I tried it I got the Gnome utilities menu, not the KDE. If i remeber right the editor is in utilities i can see how that could be a big problem I usually launch apps from konsole or right clicking the screen to get a box, but it would be nice to know how to fix this.. I prefer alt-f2 when useing kde's wm -Warren. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Hello All, I am now a confirmed WindowMaker/Filerunner user but I asked this question a while back and actually managed to solve it myself while waiting for a response - about the only problem I have solved. As I recall you click K, panel, edit menus. You see a display of menus. On the right panel click applications then right click any on the list. Down to new, and an application screen appears with the Application window highlighted. Using the arrow on the window select sub menu. I called it Utilities2. You then get a new entry of that name to which you can move part of the original utilities list ( I started at L). Select an icon to differentiate it and you can have two icons in the panel or you can click K and select either Utilities or Utilities2. I'm hazy on the details but I know the general method works because I still have that setup in KDE. Wouldn't you think this would be resolved before distros were supplied to users? HTH. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] Star Office won't connect
"Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." wrote: | Dennis, | | I am not trying to be smart or anything like that, but did you connect with | pppd first? Or perhaps kppp? It has been my experience that Linux does not | automate things like connecting to the web for you. Personally I like this | policy. It takes a little more concious thought on my part, but in the end I am | more secure with my system. Make sure that you are connected to your ISP then | try the SO51a stuf again. | | HTH, | | Ernie | | Ernie, | I should have said that I was already connected. Just now I got a | different message that SO was unable to connect to the pop3 server and | then it crashed when I clicked retry. Now it has evidently damaged | something because SO will not launch. This has happened before and | forced me to re-install. I dunno what is going on. Thanks. | -- | Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA | Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. Appologies, I mis understood. Look in the untar'd distribution for the SO51a installer, and see if there is an uninstall script (seems to me the readme said something about removing). If there is run it - I think it should remove all the SO51a files from your system. If there is not, check the Sun site where you downloaded the .tar file for removal information. In either case, make sure you do the removal as the same user as when you did the install. Then while logged on as a regular user, try re-installing again. I know there is a security issue with installing as "root" - and it is not a good idea. I do not know enough either about Linux or SO51a to be of any more help than this - sorry. Ernie Hello Ernie, Thanks. I used deinstall, deleted all directories and reinstalled. Same settings as Windows but icons still are greyed out, I get lots of error beeps and the final unrecoverable error message occurs without any sign of a connection being established. I thought reverting to the -7mdk kernel might help but not so. Looks like I'm stuck with Windows or So5.1a for Linux as an offline application only. Bloody annoying. Fortunately, Netscape 4.7 works well for me. If I can get through to them I might try giving Sun a hard time. Regards. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
The problem is that there are simply too many entries in the utilities menu to be displayed in one column on the screen. You have to use the menu editor to create a second menu such as utils2 or whatever you wish for a name, then move the entries from the original menu to the new one (perhaps the last half of the entries). I saw a good description of the process some time back, you may be able to find it in the list archives. Sorry I can not be more helpfull, Ernie On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, funboy wrote: | Thanks for the suggestion, but there is a slight problem... | I am already _at_ 1024 X 780. | sigh | Even if I knew _how_ to go finer, I wouldn't do it... on a 15" monitor, it's | already small enough (strangely enough my ctrl-alt-numpad+,- thingie doesn't | change my display) | grrr... | there must be some way to access these menus... | Any other suggestions? | | Awash in a sea of unknown shortcuts, | ~phil | | Cyndi Dwayne Hillier wrote: | | Hi Phil, I did the same thing myself. Only way I could fix it was to | change the resolution to at least 1024 x 780. Though that is drastic, but | it did the trick. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of funboy | Sent: December 20, 1999 10:02 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [newbie] KDE screen help | | First off, I just want to say that i installed my first LINUX system a | few days ago, and apart from a few hangups, everything has been running | great. I am very happy with the learning curve. Just sitting back and | watching the emails has been a great catalyst for my own solutions. But | there is one annoying little problem I still have and can't figure out | how to fix | | Can you please tell me how to see the bottom (unviewable) portion of the | KDE popup menus? My Utility menu is too large (vertically) to fit on | screen, and, while it may be amusing for you all to contemplate, I have | been forced to count and memorize how many arrow hits I made from the | moment the focus went off-screen in order to access these apps. | | I'm sure the answer is quite obvious, but I just can't get it. | | thanks, | ~phil
Re: [newbie] Getting out of X-Windows and into BASH
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Christopher M. Kopp wrote: | | How do I get out of X-Windows and into bash... my display is messed up in X-Windows because I have a different monitor where I am right now... I cannot work in X-Windows because I am unable to see half of the screen. | | Please help. | | -Chris | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Chris, There are several ways. If X is already running, you can do CTRL+ALT+BKSPACE, or to get to an other console you can do CTRL+ALT+F2 and CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back into X. Or if you are starting at the lilo prompt use linux 3 - this will start you in a text only console with X not running. BTW, the HTML is rather dificult for us text only mail client users to read. If it is at all possible, can you disable the HTML when sending to this list? It will be greatly appreciated by all who attempt to be of help. HTH, Ernie
Re: [newbie] Good Deal
Dunno, but I am running a losing battle trying to filter it out. Have a good article in an issue of Network magazine on spam prevention. If I find anything original in it I'll pass it on, if any anyone wishes. Bill Carling - Original Message - From: Joseph S. Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Good Deal Dennis wrote: SNIP NO LEASING, NO LONG TERM COMMITMENT. YOU CAN CANCEL ANYTIME. THIS OFFER IS FOR U.S. BASED COMPANIES ONLY! PLEASE DO NOT REQUEST MORE INFORMATION IF YOU ARE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES. Request our free information package without obligations. by replying to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=INFO_PLEASE * Remove at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=remove * WHERE DO WE FIND THESE PEOPLE??? Better yet, how do they keep finding us? -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! Tyler __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] kernel flop
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased the Mandrake 6.5 with Linux Ver 2.2.13-4mdk .. everything seems to work okay except when I try to boot with a newly compiled kernel. I did a configuration (make config) then make dep clean zlilo modules modules_install then copied the new compresed kernel, System.map to the /boot directory after renaming the original.. as an extra precaution I made a floppy from the new image (dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0) edited lilo to add the new kernel (ie) an extra image=/boot/vmlinuz (etc) keeping the original inplace..now have 2 - linux and linux2 here's the problem no matter how I try to boot from the new image i can't after loading and uncompressing the kernel image i get a constant string of KMOD: Failed to load /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-646c, errno 8 or something to that effect.. (it screams by in a continual steam too fast to read) any suggestions? thanks tom This may be a silly question but did you do a /sbin/lilo to tell Lilo that you had changed the lilo config? you alos have to do a depmod -a
RE: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
Try using the DOS fdisk command. 'fdisk mbr' should get rid of Lilo on your master boot record. After that just install Windows on the drive you want and then re-install your Linux and run Lilo again. -Original Message- From: Tyler Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21, 1999 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! snip Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. snip
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
Okay...first...in order to install another OS...you must FIRST install the other OS, THEN linux. in order to get a new fresh re-installI believe you must first use the command: fdisk/mbr this will take out the LILO ...and allow you to then install winNT...then re-install linux. use your DOS boot disk...when using the fdisk/mbr command. everything should be fine then... On 21 Dec 99, at 9:40, Tyler Hansen wrote: I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! Tyler __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ==Kit== ICQ#: 7110071 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage: http://members.xoom.com/kitgoins Personal Server: http://kompukit.myip.org ==Kit==
Re: [newbie] help me please(internet)
First, you must be certain...your modem is NOT a winmodem...or a PCI modemthen, make sure you have linux seeing it on the right port. try using all the com ports under linux...ie ttyS0,ttyS1, etc. also try /dev/modem at the top... what modem is it? On 21 Dec 99, at 3:11, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Can some please help me . l'v tried to connect to the internet with Mandrake 6.5 | everything go,s well press connect and then it happens "initializing program" (or something like that ) and then nothing. and now l'm left with windoze lnter explorer.(great). thanx. | | | G@vin | -- | Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: The most dificult part of this responce is reading thru the HTML. I use a text-only mail reader, and I'd appreciate it if you would turn off the HTML when sending to this list, it'll save me a headache or two. If you are using kppp to connect to the internet, you can click the setup button , then the Modem tab, then the Query modem button to make sure that you are accessing the modem. You should get a window indicating the responces from your modem which will include the modem name, firmware version, features, etc. You must also set up your modem to dial your ISP - if you use AOL, there may be a problem, but I'm not sure of that - and DNS info etc. If you do not get the previously indicated information, you should make sure that kppp is trying to use the ttys port (COM port) your modem is connected on. If you are using a winmodem (most PCI modems are Winmodems), sorry you are out of luck - they do not work with Linux as far as I know. If you do not use KDE or the kppp utility, I can not be of much help since I have been using kppp since I started using Mandrake - it's just so easy to set up and I'm sooo lazy! HTH, Ernie ==Kit== ICQ#: 7110071 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage: http://members.xoom.com/kitgoins Personal Server: http://kompukit.myip.org ==Kit==
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! Tyler __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com There is a option to Fdisk to get rid of the boot loader, I think its fdisk /mnt but i'm not sure,
Re: [newbie] Getting out of X-Windows and into BASH
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: How do I get out of X-Windows and into bash... my display is messed up in X-Windows because I have a different monitor where I am right now... I cannot work in X-Windows because I am unable to see half of the screen. Please help. -Chris Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: First, please ditch the html when sending email. Second, at the LILO prompt, type "linux 3" and that should take you to a console prompt where you can log in and re-run your X-windows setup. John
[newbie] WOW,imagine that...eh?
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Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
funboy wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, but there is a slight problem... I am already _at_ 1024 X 780. sigh Even if I knew _how_ to go finer, I wouldn't do it... on a 15" monitor, it's already small enough (strangely enough my ctrl-alt-numpad+,- thingie doesn't change my display) grrr... there must be some way to access these menus... Any other suggestions? Awash in a sea of unknown shortcuts, ~phil Cyndi Dwayne Hillier wrote: Hi Phil, I did the same thing myself. Only way I could fix it was to change the resolution to at least 1024 x 780. Though that is drastic, but it did the trick. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of funboy Sent: December 20, 1999 10:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE screen help First off, I just want to say that i installed my first LINUX system a few days ago, and apart from a few hangups, everything has been running great. I am very happy with the learning curve. Just sitting back and watching the emails has been a great catalyst for my own solutions. But there is one annoying little problem I still have and can't figure out how to fix Can you please tell me how to see the bottom (unviewable) portion of the KDE popup menus? My Utility menu is too large (vertically) to fit on screen, and, while it may be amusing for you all to contemplate, I have been forced to count and memorize how many arrow hits I made from the moment the focus went off-screen in order to access these apps. I'm sure the answer is quite obvious, but I just can't get it. thanks, ~phil I went into the configuration, created a "utilties 2" section and moved a bunch of stuff from the regular utilities to the new one. Click on the "K" and pick one of the selections toward the bottom of the list. I think it was panel or menu, but I'm not on that machine now, so can't look.
RE: [newbie] WOW,imagine that...eh?
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Re: [newbie] Kernel
My take on this whole "newbie who doesn't want to learn Linux" is as follows: If you don't want to learn Linux, then hire someone who knows or will learn Linux to administer your system for you. If you're too cheap or just can't afford (like a kid who downloads and installs Linux) to hire someone, then you MUST learn Linux, whether you like it or not! It's that simple: 1) Learn to administer your system or 2) Hire someone to administer it Can't afford #2? You got two choices: 1) Learn Linux yourself 2) Format the hard drive and go back to Windows! John
Re: [newbie] KDE screen help
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, you wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, but there is a slight problem... I am already _at_ 1024 X 780. sigh Even if I knew _how_ to go finer, I wouldn't do it... on a 15" monitor, it's already small enough (strangely enough my ctrl-alt-numpad+,- thingie doesn't change my display) grrr... there must be some way to access these menus... Any other suggestions? Awash in a sea of unknown shortcuts, ~phil There have been quite a few posts on this. This is a known "bug" in the system. The best solution so far has been to edit the menus and have like an "apps2" menu with everything from M to Z in that menu Check the archives for info on how to do it. Axalon has given explicit, detailed instructions on how to do that several times. John
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
It appears that you allowed LILO to modify your MBR when you first installed Linux. It also appears that the MBR is not being adjusted when you install NT. If you backed up your MBR before installing linux, just put the original MBR back on the drive. If you didn't keep a copy of the original MBR, then use a DOS/Windows boot disk and type "fdisk /mbr" after booting off the diskette. HTH, Matt From: "Tyler Hansen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:40:32 EST I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! Tyler __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
No, Kingston RAM upgrades are not the issue. Kingston is the leading producer of OEM RAM in the world. That was not the problem, whatever the problem was, I corrected it with I think the "noaccel" option and a hard re-start. At 04:50 AM 12/21/99 -0500, you wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | Ernie, | | I am past this now...I know the chipset(GD5436), and the RAM is at least 2 | MB(there's a Kingston VRAM upgrade on the motherboard). I've run xf86config | and Xconfigurator so many times I can enter all responses without looking | now. I also have the specs for my monitor, and setting the correct | settings does nothing but give me a screen so huge in size that I have to | scroll my mouse in all directions to see it. I am not familiar with the Kingston VRAM upgrade - I wonder if this is the source of the problem? I have a PCI video card which uses the GD5430 chipset, and 2 meg EDO RAM and all works well. Hrmmm ... are you able to remove the Kingston VRAM upgrade from the MB? If nothing else, this may tell you if this is where the problem is comming from. If not, maybe someone with greater knowlege than I can tell you how to get X-Windows to understand the VRAM on the MB. Sorry I can not be of any more help. Ernie | | Still nothing(as my last posts say)...I've updated my config file just like | the readme's say and I'm at my ropes end. | | I don't think I've ever had this much trouble with Win95... | | PLEASE HELP, I'm feeling like this was a huge waste of time and money and I | really want this to work for experience sake. | | Sam ROza | | I will try starting in Linux 3 and running setup | - Original Message - | From: Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 3:35 AM | Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. | | | On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Sam Roza wrote: | | Hello All, | | | | I am new to the list, and am having difficulties. | | | | Last night I tried to install Linux-mandrake and it went GREAT, until | I got | | to X setup. I just can't seem to get my settings right. I am | installing on | | a Compaq Deskpro P166 with a soundblaster(this worked in the | installation) | | and a Cirrus logic video board(I don't know what chipset or RAM). | | | | The first time I loaded it, I got into KDE(X?) but the screen was so | messed | | up I couldn't use it, and I couldn't find a way to reset the video | | settings. I was reserved and I ended up re-installing linux a few | times | | before I got a successful install. | | | | Now that everything is complete, and I can use unix(with my limited | | knowledge of unix it is difficult for me), from a console to be ROOT, | and | | run Xconfigurator. After setting up Xconfig with my monitor's | settings, and | | having it probe my adapter(when it probes, the specs sound right), | but then | | the test screen comes up and asks "Can tyou read this message?" and I | can | | read the message, but the boxes below are all skewed... | | | | I got it looking decent and selected yes when it asked my if I could | see | | the message. Now it freezes when going into X...PLEASE HELP!! | | | | | | | | | | | | Regards, | | | | Sam Roza | | Lead Customer Service Representative | | (408) 527-2926 | | GE Capital - IT Solutions | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sam, | | When you start your system, at the LILO prompt try "linux 3" (without the | quotes). This will start you in the command line mode. Then try "setup" | (again | without the quotes) as the "root" user. Now you can select the option to | set up | the X-server for your system. You will need to know the verticle and | horizontal | refresh rates for your monitor, as well as the information for your video | controler. If you have this information available, use it and do not probe | the | video device. I have heard that this has helpped several users get things | set | up ok. | | HTH, | | Ernie | Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions Onsite@Cisco
RE: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
If you happen to have a Western digital disk, then I found that if you use their disk instalation utilities it will wipe the disk completely clean, quick format it and basicly make it ready for Dos/Win use. You can download this utility from their site for free. At 06:49 21/12/99 -0800, you wrote: Try using the DOS fdisk command. 'fdisk mbr' should get rid of Lilo on your master boot record. After that just install Windows on the drive you want and then re-install your Linux and run Lilo again. -Original Message- From: Tyler Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21, 1999 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! snip Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. snip
Re: [newbie] small note
Yeah, then you can UNINSTALL stuff as you decide you don't need it and need to free up some HD space. MickeyMutant wrote: I have noticed that many things work Much better if you do a Custom install and put in EVERYTHING! i know this takes up a lot of hd space but you will run into less trouble if as many rpm's as posiable are installed like the mandrakeupdate that is not installed on the workstation seting but is if you choose everthing.. Mickey
Re: [newbie] kernel flop
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased the Mandrake 6.5 with Linux Ver 2.2.13-4mdk .. everything seems to work okay except when I try to boot with a newly compiled kernel. I did a configuration (make config) then make dep clean zlilo modules modules_install then copied the new compresed kernel, System.map to the /boot directory after renaming the original.. as an extra precaution I made a floppy from the new image (dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0) edited lilo to add the new kernel (ie) Did you remember to re-run lilo? I'm guessing you did, from what you said... Other than that, I'm not sure... John
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
Actually, I think the command is 'fdisk /mbr' It should be really easy to fix... Dos boot disk, fdisk /mbr, format c: /s will transfer the DOS files back to the HD. Hope this helps! J.R. - Original Message - From: michael perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! If you happen to have a Western digital disk, then I found that if you use their disk instalation utilities it will wipe the disk completely clean, quick format it and basicly make it ready for Dos/Win use. You can download this utility from their site for free. At 06:49 21/12/99 -0800, you wrote: Try using the DOS fdisk command. 'fdisk mbr' should get rid of Lilo on your master boot record. After that just install Windows on the drive you want and then re-install your Linux and run Lilo again. -Original Message- From: Tyler Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21, 1999 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! snip Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. snip
Re: [newbie] Star Office won't connect
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: Thanks. I used deinstall, deleted all directories and reinstalled. Same settings as Windows but icons still are greyed out, I get lots of error beeps and the final unrecoverable error message occurs without any sign of a connection being established. I thought reverting to the -7mdk kernel might help but not so. Looks like I'm stuck with Windows or So5.1a for Linux as an offline application only. Bloody annoying. Fortunately, Netscape 4.7 works well for me. If I can get through to them I might try giving Sun a hard time. Hmm...strange. SO 5.1a works for me That's what I'm using at home on my Mandrake 6.0 box. *shrug* John
Re: [newbie] Kernel
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:16:04 -0500, you wrote: Original message from: John Aldrich My take on this whole "newbie who doesn't want to learn Linux" is as follows: If you don't want to learn Linux, then hire someone who knows or will learn Linux to administer your system for you. If you're too cheap or just can't afford (like a kid who downloads and installs Linux) to hire someone, then you MUST learn Linux, whether you like it or not! It's that simple: 1) Learn to administer your system or 2) Hire someone to administer it Can't afford #2? You got two choices: 1) Learn Linux yourself 2) Format the hard drive and go back to Windows! John I think that's a valid opinion, except that if people want Linux to become a mainstream, well-accepted OS, then it's going to have to take some cues from MS. I WHY? Do we really want linux to go the road of MS? mean, really do you expect a person that uses a computer for work and a little at home to write reports, surf, check email, etc to have to learn everything that goes into getting Linux up and running. There isnt that much to learn in getting it up and running. Besides...most folks buy their computers with the OS pre-installed. And if anything happens they go running to their support folks for their computer. Not only that, but with hardware compatability issues it's kind of difficult to convince someone that their new machine that they paid good money for is all but useless if they want to use something other than Windows. That seems to be a problem of manufactorer not linux. I know that a lot of this is not the fault of Linux, but we also can't be a cadre of snobbish techno-elitists and say that you must know your machine inside and out in order to use this OS. That only accomplishes one thing; turning No one has said that the newbies need to know their machine inside and out. That statment is disenginuous. What has been said over and over is that the newbie needs to be able to learn to do some basic things to tweek their systems and to make some changes, such as updating kernels, etc. But they have to be willing to learn. If they cannot at least try learn a little bit about the OS then they do have an alternative...windoze. a lot of people off to a viable alternative. What viable alternative if all you want is just a clone of windoze? Adam Koch "Nothin in here 'cept a trunkful of dead bodies"
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. get a dos boot disk with fdisk on it and boot off it, then type "fdisk /mbr" (w/o the quotes.) John
Re: [newbie] Corrupted library file - Maybe someone here will help?
I recently removed my older version of samba and installed 2.0.6 I then set up the smb.conf and ran testparm -s smb.conf | head - 10. I got an error message - error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libreadline.so.3: undefined symbol: BC I had the same problem. The solution: 1. Get and unpack the source code(tarball or rpm) for Samba 2.0.6 2. Build the RPM from the redhat directory(located in the source tree). 3. Install the RPM. 4. Check that Samba support is compiled into the kernel(my biggest problem). This worked for me. Stephen F Brazelton
[newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!!
Buenas tardes, os informo que tenemos en Stock DVD'S de Panasonic a muy buen precio: DVD-PANASONIC P.V.D. 12.900,- ptas. DVD DE PANASONIC 6X32X SIN TARJETA DESCOMPRESORA Catalogo DVD.doc Catalogo DVD.doc
[newbie] Help w/ recovering from errors caused by crash
Hello. My system recently was powered off while running X. (Uh oh) After reboot and (auto)running fsck I seem to be missing some of the kde files (system complains about kdmrc during boot up). I believe I can recover from that by reloading the rpm for KDE (Please correct me if I'm wrong). I can still run X pretty much OK when I finally get to a login. More difficult is the problem during the rest of the booting process. After the system reports that it is "starting hard drive optimizations" the HD light comes on for a few seconds, then it stops and the system just sits there forever. If I let it sit long enough it will become totally unresponsive and has to be powered down. I've been able to get it to continue with the boot process by hitting Ctrl-Z which causes it to continue on through the rest of the boot process and gets me to a login (level 3). It appears that some of my setup (?rc?) files must be corrupted and the system hangs trying to execute one of them but I don't even know where to begin to look and worse yet when I did look in some of the startup scripts and directories it was like reading ancient runes. Any wizards out there to help me decipher? :) Where can I learn more? Help. __ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp
Re: [newbie] Kernel
Ok Dennis, you're starting to sound like the stereotypical UNIX geeQue(your little exclusive club is becoming more mainstream). Get over it, consumers are flocking to this OS and finding out that it has not the flexibility, nor the learning curve of Win95(from the console). Linux/unix MUST become "like MS"(if that's what you want to call writing compatible drivers and giving a consumer an easy install), if it is to pull the market away from MSoft. If Linux does not become more flexible with hardware constraints and availability of drivers for ALL(at least 90%) of all hardware, especially graphics accelerators, it will not fly, trust me(and it is the OS maker's responsibility to write the drivers necessary for today's hardware if they want to "sell" OS to the general market, not the hardware manufacturer's). As an experienced hardware builder and MS OS installer, I can tell you that setting up mandrake was at the very least trying, and at some times downright unreasonable. Had I been your standard consumer, and not an IT hardware salesperson, I would have given up the install, and Linux, once again would have given up their market share to MS all over again. Linux has quite a ways to go before it will be able to pull share from MSoft, until it is closer to plug-n-play, it will not appeal to your typical user. When they've succeeded there, they will finally appeal to the general public. No offense, just my 2 cents worth. At 12:10 PM 12/21/99 -0600, you wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:16:04 -0500, you wrote: Original message from: John Aldrich My take on this whole "newbie who doesn't want to learn Linux" is as follows: If you don't want to learn Linux, then hire someone who knows or will learn Linux to administer your system for you. If you're too cheap or just can't afford (like a kid who downloads and installs Linux) to hire someone, then you MUST learn Linux, whether you like it or not! It's that simple: 1) Learn to administer your system or 2) Hire someone to administer it Can't afford #2? You got two choices: 1) Learn Linux yourself 2) Format the hard drive and go back to Windows! John I think that's a valid opinion, except that if people want Linux to become a mainstream, well-accepted OS, then it's going to have to take some cues from MS. I WHY? Do we really want linux to go the road of MS? mean, really do you expect a person that uses a computer for work and a little at home to write reports, surf, check email, etc to have to learn everything that goes into getting Linux up and running. There isnt that much to learn in getting it up and running. Besides...most folks buy their computers with the OS pre-installed. And if anything happens they go running to their support folks for their computer. Not only that, but with hardware compatability issues it's kind of difficult to convince someone that their new machine that they paid good money for is all but useless if they want to use something other than Windows. That seems to be a problem of manufactorer not linux. I know that a lot of this is not the fault of Linux, but we also can't be a cadre of snobbish techno-elitists and say that you must know your machine inside and out in order to use this OS. That only accomplishes one thing; turning No one has said that the newbies need to know their machine inside and out. That statment is disenginuous. What has been said over and over is that the newbie needs to be able to learn to do some basic things to tweek their systems and to make some changes, such as updating kernels, etc. But they have to be willing to learn. If they cannot at least try learn a little bit about the OS then they do have an alternative...windoze. a lot of people off to a viable alternative. What viable alternative if all you want is just a clone of windoze? Adam Koch "Nothin in here 'cept a trunkful of dead bodies" Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions Onsite@Cisco
Re: [newbie] Startup issues.
Monitor "vivitron" Hidong, I noticed that you have a vivitron monitor. Is it a vivitron 15 by any chance, and if so, where did you get the specs for it? Thanks!
RE: [newbie] Startup issues.
Title: RE: [newbie] Startup issues. Hey I am a new Linux user (Linux mandrake 6.0 or 6.5 I forget) and I am trying to configure my modem but I keep getting an error message that states can not open modem. The users guide states that I have to setup permissions for a user to be able to use the modem . I have a users called Marcos the home directory is /home/marcos . How do I setup permissions for this user to be able to access the modem so that I can then setup a PPP account to access the Internet through my ISP. Any suggestion or ideas are appreciated. Rgds Mark Dawkins Phone (301)838-5047 Pager 1(888)371-8470 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John R. Ehrhart, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Startup issues. Monitor vivitron Hidong, I noticed that you have a vivitron monitor. Is it a vivitron 15 by any chance, and if so, where did you get the specs for it? Thanks!
[newbie] Netscape Password Issues
Every time I go to a website that requires a password after I enter the username and password and hit enter it closes Netscape. Has anyone had this problem? Paul Apostolos Manager of Internet Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrca.net
[newbie] problem reinstalling Linux
I'm using a Compaq Prolinea 166 w/ 2 GB HD. I would like to do a re-install (same version) of mandrake linux on top of the existing install. I do not want to reformat/repartition the HD because I have separate partitions for /home /local and I don't want to lose the stuff in there. I just want to reinstall / (root). When I try the install it tells me it can't find a partition to install and wants to repartition the drive. Any help would be appreciated. __ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp
Re: [newbie] How to bootup when rc file is messed up?
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I managed to screwup my .rc file. How do I boot back in to correct it? Even booting off my floppy gets hungup when the system reads the rc file. Does the machine dual-boot or do you have access to another machine? If so, take your CDROM, look in the /images directory and get the boot.img file and use it to make a boot disk (if you've got another Linux box, use the dd command -- dd if=boot.net of=/dev/fd0, if no Linux box is available, use the util out of the /dosutils directory.) Second, I like to get the RH 6.x "rescue" disk and make a rescue floppy in the same manner as the boot disk. Then, boot off the "boot" disk and type "rescue" at the prompt. When prompted, insert the RH 6.x "rescue" floppy and then mount /dev/hdaX and edit the file, sync then reboot. Should work fine. John
[newbie] Is there a Linux program to read Mac Quark Xpress files?
A friend has a number, quite a large number, of files which he wishes to put on the net. He looks to convert them into .pdf format, or some other format more widely readable than the Quark Xpress format. Is there something which will convert them? If the program includes a spell-checker, that would be a wonderful added advantage. -- Mike Fieschko, West Orange, NJ, USA X-Mailer: XEmacs 21.1, VM 6.75 and random-sig.el Kernel 2.2.14-7mdk http://www.viconet.com/fieschko/home.htm Dec 21 St Thomas "Men invent new ideals because they dare not attempt old ideals. They look forward with enthusiasm, because they are afraid to look back." - [G.K. Chesterton, in What's Wrong With The World, 1910]
[newbie] /usr/local versus /usr/local
For some reason I continue to miss the obvious. On a machine with two smallish HD's; /dev/hda; The 1-gig has M$/Linux-Mandrake 6.1 with System Commander as boot manager. /dev/hdc The second 400mg HD, I made a ext2 mounted as /usr/local. /dev/hda3 / this one of course has a usr/local too /dev/hdc1 /usr/local How does one get Linux to always tell the difference between the two /usr/locals? I initially intended to have all new programs install in /dev/hdc /usr/local in fact I would have preferred to have all original programs which get put into /usr/local go into the "extra" /usr/local, i.e. the whole install spread out over the two drives. I have "fumbled" with this same issue many times over the last couple years. All the reading and misconfigurations have yet to shed real "light" on this, for me anyway. So is the obvious to cp everything in one /usr/local to the other /usr/local maintaining all permissions, sym-links etc.? Or a cleaner "do it right the first time" kind of routine which I am missing? Thanks for any thoughts on this. William Bouterse Juneau Alaska
[newbie] Various questions
1) I'm a COMPLETE newbie to Linux, what books do you recommend that I should read? I already ordered Running Linux by O'Reilly but it hadn't arrived yet but some of the recommendations on Amazon said it wasn't really aimed at newbies. 2) Linux says it cannot open my modem - so does that automatically mean that is a winmodem (it's an OEM modem w/ my Compaq Presario 4550)? And if it is, are there any other ways to make it work w/ Linux other than buying a new modem (such as finding a driver even if it is a winmodem)? 3) I've just installed Corel Wordperfect 8 and I wasn't too sure what directory I should install it in so i installed it in /dev/usr/wordperfect (I logged in as root), so would that be ok or should I install it in a different directory. Thanks for an help. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! According to my Red Hat 5.2 Manual, if you want to dual boot, you need to install the non-Linux OS first. So, fdisk and format the computer, then boot up a startup disk and install Windows normally. Dan
Re: [newbie] Kernel
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:53:28 -0600, you wrote: Ok Dennis, you're starting to sound like the stereotypical UNIX geeQue(your Geethank you! little exclusive club is becoming more mainstream). Get over it, consumers And you best get over expecting an OS that just a couple of years ago a newbie could barely use, to become within immediately as user friendly as windoze. are flocking to this OS and finding out that it has not the flexibility, nor the learning curve of Win95(from the console). Linux/unix MUST become "like MS"(if that's what you want to call writing compatible drivers and giving a consumer an easy install), if it is to pull the market away from MSoft. Well...considering linux and most of the folks writing stuff for linux are your "stereotypical UNIX geQue's" that you like to disparage, and that they are doing it NOT because they are employed by a huge company like microsoft, but simply because of love of the OS. And they do it without being paid for it. If Linux does not become more flexible with hardware constraints and availability of drivers for ALL(at least 90%) of all hardware, especially graphics accelerators, it will not fly, trust me(and it is the OS maker's Talk to the manufactorers of those graphics cards. thats who writes the drivers. responsibility to write the drivers necessary for today's hardware if they No...it is not... want to "sell" OS to the general market, not the hardware manufacturer's). How do YOU force someone who is GIVING AWAY a free product essentially to write anything just because YOU demand it. As an experienced hardware builder and MS OS installer, I can tell you that setting up mandrake was at the very least trying, and at some times downright unreasonable. Hminteresting My neighbor..who is hardly a computer geek, and not much more experienced with computers than the average user, installed Mandrake with not a problem. Of course he did several things first. He actually READ something about the OS first...and he checked the compatibility list. And he didnt expect someone to hold his hand. He actually took the time to LEARNjust a bit before installing anything. He had Mandrake up and running in about half an hour. He is no geek...but he went in with the idea that he was going to learn something about the OS...both before and afterwards. Had I been your standard consumer, and not an IT hardware salesperson, I would have given up the install, and Linux, once again would have given up their market share to MS all over again. Have seen numerous..non "geeks" install Mandrake and other flavors of linux with few, if any problems. The install is simple...compared to what you would have had to do just two years ago. Linux has quite a ways to go before it will be able to pull share from MSoft, until it is closer to plug-n-play, it will not appeal to your And you expect an OS that is written mainly by volunteer "geeQue's" to jump to your demands? typical user. When they've succeeded there, they will finally appeal to the general public. I doubt linux will ever appeal to the "general public". At least not like you seem to expect.You expect linux to become just another version of windozeit aint gonna happen. You expect the "geeQue's" who you disparage, to write everything at your demand. Even the drivers.. . No offense, just my 2 cents worth. Hmmmyou call me a "stereotypical geeQue" disparagingly, and make demands of other "geeQue's" free time to work on an OS that is basically FREE and downloadable and expect everything to be to YOUR satisfaction. Than say "No offense". How "Stereotypical"! At 12:10 PM 12/21/99 -0600, you wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:16:04 -0500, you wrote: Original message from: John Aldrich My take on this whole "newbie who doesn't want to learn Linux" is as follows: If you don't want to learn Linux, then hire someone who knows or will learn Linux to administer your system for you. If you're too cheap or just can't afford (like a kid who downloads and installs Linux) to hire someone, then you MUST learn Linux, whether you like it or not! It's that simple: 1) Learn to administer your system or 2) Hire someone to administer it Can't afford #2? You got two choices: 1) Learn Linux yourself 2) Format the hard drive and go back to Windows! John I think that's a valid opinion, except that if people want Linux to become a mainstream, well-accepted OS, then it's going to have to take some cues from MS. I WHY? Do we really want linux to go the road of MS? mean, really do you expect a person that uses a computer for work and a little at home to write reports, surf, check email, etc to have to learn everything that goes into getting Linux up and running. There isnt that much to learn in getting it up and running. Besides...most folks buy their computers with the OS pre-installed. And if anything happens they go running
Re: [newbie] Kernel
May I make a suggestion? Please set your line-length to something "reasonable." Your text goes WAY past the sides of my poor, html-impaired, text-only email client. Next, I didn't say you had to become a "Linux guru." I meant that you need to become familiar enough with Linux to know how to upgrade it through installing new software, and doing other BASIC admin stuff such as installing kernels, etc. Now, I'm no programmer and I"ve only been using Linux for about a year now. Hell, up until about 3-4 months ago, I used Windows at home exclusively. Now I'm a dual-O/S person at home. OTOH, I grew up using the CLI with MS DOS, so I'm more used to the CLI than the GUI, so that may explain my willingness to take risks. I just think it's silly to not want to "get your hands dirty" at all if you're going to run Linux! I think it would be great if Linux took some desktop market share away from MS, and I think it WILL require being a bit more userfriendly. However, I also think that Windows takes some getting used to. For example, my dad is in his mid-70's. He's just now learning Windows and every time something "blows up" under Windows, I have to fix it. To me, Windows has just as big a learning curve as Linux. It's just that we've all grown up using Windows, so it's second-nature to us to do things. John John Sorry about the line-length; I was trying a new email client and it doesn't have a setting for the line-length wrapping of outgoing mail. I have only been using computers in general for about 5 years now, so I'm still a little wet behind the ears on some things, but I have the ability and desire to learn, although this desire is certainly not shared by everyone who uses a computer. What my gripe is, basically, that people may not like the way MS practices business so they want to try something else. Where to go: Mac (Only if you like Steve Jobs dictatorial stance, he makes Gates look like a kitten) OS/2 (Only for those who really, really like IBM) *nix Of those Linux seems to be the most attractive, and the majority of the Linux community would like to see it adopted by the public at large. This would be wonderful, but it still has a lot to do to be palatable to many people. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, but people in the Linux community, I think, must own up to this fact. There are a lot of things about Windows that make it easier to use, such as an intuitive and flexible install routine. I'm not advocating that Linux be so dumbed down as to become useless, it's just that if you are really afraid of the CLI, in my opinion, you should not be forced to use it for some of the basic, and daily jobs that must be performed. I'm not really bashing either OS, they both have the uses, strengths, and weaknesses. It just seems obvious that Linux is not the best of all possible worlds, and I get tired of people who act like it is and then berate those who think otherwise. I really didn't want to offend anyone, I just wanted to voice another viewpoint. Adam Koch "Nothin in here 'cept a trunkful of dead bodies" Electrical Engineering North Carolina State University
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
At 03:39 PM 21.12.99 -0700, you wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! According to my Red Hat 5.2 Manual, if you want to dual boot, you need to install the non-Linux OS first. So, fdisk and format the computer, then boot up a startup disk and install Windows normally. Dan another option would be to boot using a dos boot disk fdisk /mbr to get rid of LILO install NT boot into Linux with a boot disk ( I assume you did make one ) reinstall LILO into the MBR and configure it to boot NT as an option In fact I am pretty certain that the fdisk /mbr command alone will let you boot into NT it worked for me in a Win98 / Linux dual boot situation when I completely screwed up the lilo configuration -- Chris Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/mooney -- Advice for office managers: If you keep the sexual harassment complaint forms in the bottom drawer, then when a woman goes to get one out you'll get a great view of her arse.
Re: [newbie] Various questions
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:17:07 -0500, you wrote: 1) I'm a COMPLETE newbie to Linux, what books do you recommend that I should read? I already ordered Running Linux by O'Reilly but it hadn't arrived yet but some of the recommendations on Amazon said it wasn't really aimed at newbies. Well...not sure if he has a current version out, but the book "LINUX INSTALLATION- Getting Started" written by Matt Welsh was about as basic as you could get. There are some other good ones out there. But what is readable and usable is very subjective My recommendation is go to one of your local book chain stores, and look through the linux books there. Barnes and Nobles chain, for example carry a very good section of unix and linux books.Look throught them and find the one that most appeals and is readable and understandable to you. That way you arent disappointed and get a book that you have a hard time understanding. Then you can either buy it there, or order it over the net from Amazon, or whoever..(cheaper that way). One that I recommend as an addon, not a primary book, is called "Linux In Plain English" by Patrick Volkerding and Kevin Reichard. Its a Slackware series book put out by MIS: Press Inc. Its a refence to all Unix commands and is even cross-refenced with DOS command equivalents for those familiar with DOS. Its a good book to keep beside the monitor for quick linux command and command options lookup. 2) Linux says it cannot open my modem - so does that automatically mean that is a winmodem (it's an OEM modem w/ my Compaq Presario 4550)? And if it is, It could be. However, on the offchance that it could be due to an IRQ setting, check your settings in the bios of your computer. But more than likely it is a winmodem. are there any other ways to make it work w/ Linux other than buying a new modem (such as finding a driver even if it is a winmodem)? There is NO way a winmodem is going to work in linux. Not going to happen..and there are no drivers to do so. Unfortunately you are going to be stuck with getting another modem. If so, getting an external model will ensure that you dont mistakenly buy another winmodem. Good luck. 3) I've just installed Corel Wordperfect 8 and I wasn't too sure what directory I should install it in so i installed it in /dev/usr/wordperfect (I logged in as root), so would that be ok or should I install it in a different directory. Thanks for an help. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie!
Actually, if you want to boot NT, I don't think you can boot with a DOS disk and do fdisk /mbr. It'll write the DOS boot record. NT over writes the DOS boot record on install... If you have NT, boot with your system startup disks, then use the rescue disk that you made... J.R. - Original Message - From: Chris Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall? Please Help a Newbie! At 03:39 PM 21.12.99 -0700, you wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I have just purchased Linux-Mandrake and decided to install it on one of my computers. I decided to let it have all three of the HDD's. Now that I have installed it I want to try other things such as a duel boot, but all I have is Linux right now. If I try to format the HDD's and install NT, when I boot it comes up with "LI" and then freezes. It appears that "LILO" (which I have no experience with) somehow is still on the computer, yet I fdisked and formated the HDD - So why won't it boot? I'm mistified! Obviously Linux operates at a lower level than what I am used to working with. I don't mind learning how it works if there's adequate documentation, but for now I just want my system back. Basically, I was wondering how to UNINSTALL linux and why does it seem impossible to find information about uninstalling Linux? I feel that uninstalling is as important as installing. Anyways, any help on the subject is a blessing and I thank responders in advance! According to my Red Hat 5.2 Manual, if you want to dual boot, you need to install the non-Linux OS first. So, fdisk and format the computer, then boot up a startup disk and install Windows normally. Dan another option would be to boot using a dos boot disk fdisk /mbr to get rid of LILO install NT boot into Linux with a boot disk ( I assume you did make one ) reinstall LILO into the MBR and configure it to boot NT as an option In fact I am pretty certain that the fdisk /mbr command alone will let you boot into NT it worked for me in a Win98 / Linux dual boot situation when I completely screwed up the lilo configuration -- Chris Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/mooney -- Advice for office managers: If you keep the sexual harassment complaint forms in the bottom drawer, then when a woman goes to get one out you'll get a great view of her arse.
Re: [newbie] Two systems
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I am running both Windows 98 and Linux-Mandrake 6.5 on my machine, but Windows is on one hard disk with these specs: Partition -1 Statis- A Type-PRI DOS Volume Label- My Computer Mbytes-8025 System-Fat 32 Usage-100%. I have loaded Mandrake-Linux 6.5 on a second hard disk with these specs: /dev/hdc3579M409M-used Avail-140M Mounted on / /dev/hdc1 547M 32K-used Avail-547M Mounted on-mnt/DOS_hdc1 My local cabel company COGECO informs me that no Linux system is compatible with their modems so I can not connect to the Internet through Linux. However, can Linux read Windows 98? Can I still dowload software in Windows and somehow transfer it to Linux. The word 'transfer' may be wrong, but can I use the two together somehow so that I can download software to the Linus system. Any help would be appreciated. Robert Yes you can mount Windoze Partions, I have my 2gig Win98 partion mounted as /mnt/DOS_hda1 and it works well try the linuxconf tool to mount filesystems and it will auto update your fstab file.
Re: [newbie] Various questions
Hi 2) Linux says it cannot open my modem - so does that automatically mean that is a winmodem (it's an OEM modem w/ my Compaq Presario 4550)? And if it is, Chances are that it probably is a WinModem your system is 12 to 18 months old. It could be. However, on the offchance that it could be due to an IRQ setting, check your settings in the bios of your computer. But more than likely it is a winmodem. are there any other ways to make it work w/ Linux other than buying a new modem (such as finding a driver even if it is a winmodem)? There is NO way a winmodem is going to work in linux. Not going to happen..and there are no drivers to do so. Unfortunately you are going to be stuck with getting another modem. If so, getting an external model will ensure that you dont mistakenly buy another winmodem. Up until recently this is / was very true. Lucent has released a Linux driver for WinModem's that use the Lucent chipset. Of course that doesn't help anyone with a Rockwell chipset but who knows you might see one of those too. 3) I've just installed Corel Wordperfect 8 and I wasn't too sure what directory I should install it in so i installed it in /dev/usr/wordperfect (I logged in as root), so would that be ok or should I install it in a different directory. I installed mine off of /urs/local as I recall. I really don't know if it makes much difference. Regards Dan
[newbie] Please Help!
I haven't recieved any help with my problem (I have a Toshiba Satellite T1910/CS and I want to make it a Linux system, butI don't know whichLinux distribution is right nordo I know exactly how to get it installed once I know which one(seeing as how I only havea 3 1/2" floppy drive for data input. Please help!) and this is urgent! Thanks, Trey Keenon
Re: [newbie] Ati Rage 128
I am using an ATI Xpert128 and downloaded the rpm from suse and followed their instruction to get it working. They only left out one step I have found needed to be done to get it installed and that was to delete /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA before running xf86config. It appears, from one of the posts that the driver may be on the CD for your mandrake 6.1you will have to look for it in either place. If you have problems getting it running, drop me a note directly and I can tell you what I have to do to get it working right. I have had it running under Caldera, Redhat and now Mandrake. --- Bassem Houballah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, how can i install my ati rage 128 under linux-mandrake 6.1 Thanks for any help __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
[newbie] About choosing wm
some weeks ago someone asked about how he can choose a wm to work with his X session : Try one of these : kdm , xdm , desktopcfg May this help this person or other one ! Younes zouhair
Re: [newbie] Kernel
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:15:29 -0500, you wrote: May I make a suggestion? Please set your line-length to something "reasonable." Your text goes WAY past the sides of my poor, html-impaired, text-only email client. Next, I didn't say you had to become a "Linux guru." I meant that you need to become familiar enough with Linux to know how to upgrade it through installing new software, and doing other BASIC admin stuff such as installing kernels, etc. Now, I'm no programmer and I"ve only been using Linux for about a year now. Hell, up until about 3-4 months ago, I used Windows at home exclusively. Now I'm a dual-O/S person at home. OTOH, I grew up using the CLI with MS DOS, so I'm more used to the CLI than the GUI, so that may explain my willingness to take risks. I just think it's silly to not want to "get your hands dirty" at all if you're going to run Linux! I think it would be great if Linux took some desktop market share away from MS, and I think it WILL require being a bit more userfriendly. However, I also think that Windows takes some getting used to. For example, my dad is in his mid-70's. He's just now learning Windows and every time something "blows up" under Windows, I have to fix it. To me, Windows has just as big a learning curve as Linux. It's just that we've all grown up using Windows, so it's second-nature to us to do things. John John Sorry about the line-length; I was trying a new email client and it doesn't have a setting for the line-length wrapping of outgoing mail. I have It happensg only been using computers in general for about 5 years now, so I'm still a little wet behind the I began programming in DOS on a TRS-80 with 4k of RAM. Paid 2 or 3 hundred bucks for the 256k addon and though I was in heaven. g Sheese...that was a long time agog ears on some things, but I have the ability and desire to learn, although this desire is certainly not shared by everyone who uses a computer. What my gripe is, basically, that people may not like the way MS practices business so they want to try something else. Where to go: Who does... Mac (Only if you like Steve Jobs dictatorial stance, he makes Gates look like a kitten) True. OS/2 (Only for those who really, really like IBM) *nix Actually, I have a computer running Warp 4.0...g Been an OS2 user off and on since 1.0. It could have taken windoze on head to head if IBM had been smarter about it. Of those Linux seems to be the most attractive, and the majority of the Linux community would like to see it adopted by the public at large. This They prob would not mind. would be wonderful, but it still has a lot to do to be palatable to many people. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, but people in the Linux community, I think, must own up to this fact. There are a lot of things about Windows that make it easier to use, such as an intuitive and Sure...and most linux users, geeks and non geeks know that. flexible install routine. I'm not advocating that Linux be so dumbed down as to become useless, it's But, unfortunately, that is what many are asking. just that if you are really afraid of the CLI, in my opinion, you should not be forced to use it for some of the basic, and daily jobs that must be performed. I'm not really bashing either OS, they There GUI evquivalents for many of those tasks now and there will be more as time goes on and linux moves more and more to the GUI environment. both have the uses, strengths, and weaknesses. It Very true. just seems obvious that Linux is not the best of all possible worlds, and I get tired of people who act like it is and then berate those who think otherwise. I get the impression from this and your earlier response that you think I and others who have responed in this thread think linux isthe best of all worlds.it isnt...and neither I nor the others that I have read responding think that way. But neither is it reasonable to expect it to become just a clone of windoze. I personally use windows 98, NT server, workstation, Mandrake, OS2 warp...and on one box have a version of 5.0 dos. g All of the above just in my office at home. I use each for certain things and programs that I have come to enjoy and use over the years. So I found it funny that I was accused of being a Unix geek or gurug I enjoy linux...even when it was in its infancy...because I felt comfortable with the command line. And I like its flexibility. This whole thread started because of the guy who stated he wanted to basically know nothing do nothing learn nothing but wanted detailed step by step intructions on how to do anything from those that HAD taken the time to learn at least the basics because HIS time was more important. That attitude I DID take offense at, though I did not flame him. It was in no ways a response meant to imply that linux was the end all of end all OS's. Its just that unless you are willing to learn something about the OS, or
Re: [newbie] Kernel
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:24:56 -0600, you wrote: At 05:03 PM 12/21/99 -0600, you wrote: Hminteresting My neighbor..who is hardly a computer geek, and not much more experienced with computers than the average user, installed Mandrake with not a problem. Of course he did several things first. He actually READ something about the OS first...and he checked the compatibility list. And he didnt expect someone to hold his hand. He actually took the time to LEARNjust a bit before installing anything. He had Mandrake up and running in about half an hour. He is no geek...but he went in with the idea that he was going to learn something about the OS...both before and afterwards. Ok Dennis, stop crying. First off, I checked all compatibility lists PRIOR Oh...on a rant now are we? to PURCHASING(READ: bought) Mandrake and ALL of my hardware was listed as That was YOUR option to do so. Its a free OS. Or you could have ordered a buck and a half disk from LinuxMall. So dont cry about buying it. compatible. I even took the time to READ(READ: study, learn) about the OS first. I even didn't ask for any HELP(READ: handholding) until I had tried everything possible within my means of getting info on the subject of my video card. So you had a video problem. If you are a hardware man, then you know that despite all the work on drivers, OS's, etc, just the combination of hardware in any particular computer can cause compatiblity problems in ANY OS...not just linux. And video problems are the bane of any OS. But those very drivers that you seem to demand that the linux programmers write, most of whom do it on their own time, by the way, are actually written by the makers of the many video cards on the market, not by the OS programmers. As far as disparaging geeks, well, I was talking about the following elitist asshole attitude you have, which you proved in your rebut to my Oh my goodness...taken offense have we and now have to resort to further name calling? But thank you, anyway. message. Be secure in your geekness and get over the geeQue comment...move on to other things. Hmmm...I dont think I am the one displaying an attitude or insecurity problem here. If you think my hand was held and I wanted someone to follow me along all of the way, you're sorely mistaken, and it shocks me that you think that Never said that you did or was. You seem to be reading things into my messages that arent there. your input is so valuable(READ: EGO) as to make me want you to help me along every step. I am not like the original author of the post who was Never said that either. whining, I was just adding some commentary(READ: opinion), and I'm sorry Ok...so? Hehehebut YOUR statement that you were a hardware and OS man was not a pronouncement of YOUR elitism? hehehehe your free-coding "nail-me-to the cross" attitude got in the way of your You are making assumptions about things that were never said. reply. You are not a martyr sir. Hehehehe. Sam Roza Regards, Sam Roza Lead Customer Service Representative (408) 527-2926 GE Capital - IT Solutions Onsite@Cisco
RE: [newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!!
Beauty, now we're getting spammed in Spanish. -Original Message- From: Moises Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 21, 1999 7:13 AM To: Moises Lopez Subject: [newbie] EL MEJOR DVD Y AL MEJOR PRECIO !!! Buenas tardes, os informo que tenemos en Stock DVD'S de Panasonic a muy buen precio: DVD-PANASONIC P.V.D. 12.900,- ptas. DVD DE PANASONIC 6X32X SIN TARJETA DESCOMPRESORA Catalogo DVD.doc
Re: [newbie] Two systems
How about running through what you did to make Windows work on your Linux system. Let us say that you just downloaded something into your Windows System. How do you get your Mandrake Linux system to use this download in its own system? Linux is mainly DOS commands. You say your Windows 98 is mounted on /mnt/DOS/hda1. My partition is hdc1m in Linux and my Windows 98 partition 1 on C:\ drive. I'm obviously missing something. What is it? MickeyMutant wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I am running both Windows 98 and Linux-Mandrake 6.5 on my machine, but Windows is on one hard disk with these specs: Partition -1 Statis- A Type-PRI DOS Volume Label- My Computer Mbytes-8025 System-Fat 32 Usage-100%. I have loaded Mandrake-Linux 6.5 on a second hard disk with these specs: /dev/hdc3579M409M-used Avail-140M Mounted on / /dev/hdc1 547M 32K-used Avail-547M Mounted on-mnt/DOS_hdc1 My local cabel company COGECO informs me that no Linux system is compatible with their modems so I can not connect to the Internet through Linux. However, can Linux read Windows 98? Can I still dowload software in Windows and somehow transfer it to Linux. The word 'transfer' may be wrong, but can I use the two together somehow so that I can download software to the Linus system. Any help would be appreciated. Robert Yes you can mount Windoze Partions, I have my 2gig Win98 partion mounted as /mnt/DOS_hda1 and it works well try the linuxconf tool to mount filesystems and it will auto update your fstab file.
Re: [newbie] Please Help!
Try this link for what looks like a lot of information: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ Trey Keenon wrote: I haven't recieved any help with my problem (I have a Toshiba Satellite T1910/CS and I want to make it a Linux system, but I don't know which Linux distribution is right nor do I know exactly how to get it installed once I know which one (seeing as how I only have a 3 1/2" floppy drive for data input. Please help!) and this is urgent! Thanks, Trey Keenon
Re: [newbie] Two systems
I have 3 operating os's on my 2 hard drives. I have Dos 6 with Windoze 3.1 on a hidden primary, Windoze 98 on a 5 gig (fat32) hidden primary, and Linux-Mandrake on another. I also have a 1.5 gig logical partion that all the os's can see (fat16). I can just download or move files to the fat 16 and any of my os's can access it, but still can't see each other. Works for me anyway. Good luck, Don - Original Message - From: Robert Thrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Two systems How about running through what you did to make Windows work on your Linux system. Let us say that you just downloaded something into your Windows System. How do you get your Mandrake Linux system to use this download in its own system? Linux is mainly DOS commands. You say your Windows 98 is mounted on /mnt/DOS/hda1. My partition is hdc1m in Linux and my Windows 98 partition 1 on C:\ drive. I'm obviously missing something. What is it? MickeyMutant wrote: On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, you wrote: I am running both Windows 98 and Linux-Mandrake 6.5 on my machine, but Windows is on one hard disk with these specs: Partition -1 Statis- A Type-PRI DOS Volume Label- My Computer Mbytes-8025 System-Fat 32 Usage-100%. I have loaded Mandrake-Linux 6.5 on a second hard disk with these specs: /dev/hdc3579M409M-used Avail-140M Mounted on / /dev/hdc1 547M 32K-used Avail-547M Mounted on-mnt/DOS_hdc1 My local cabel company COGECO informs me that no Linux system is compatible with their modems so I can not connect to the Internet through Linux. However, can Linux read Windows 98? Can I still dowload software in Windows and somehow transfer it to Linux. The word 'transfer' may be wrong, but can I use the two together somehow so that I can download software to the Linus system. Any help would be appreciated. Robert Yes you can mount Windoze Partions, I have my 2gig Win98 partion mounted as /mnt/DOS_hda1 and it works well try the linuxconf tool to mount filesystems and it will auto update your fstab file. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
[newbie] BERO-FTPD wait-state question.
Hey group, Linux Mandrake 6.5 (that's what it says on the box) runs well on my machine, but one problem I'm having is that when I connect to the BERO-FTPD server from a client on another machine (WinNT) and the welcome message comes up, and then I get no response from the client program for about 2-3 minutes! Then, the cursor comes back up and I can transfer files normally, and at full speed. I've noticed a "DATA-"-something TIME-WAIT connection doing a netstat on WinNT. The same thing happens with CuteFTP, except that I get an hourglass over the CuteFTP window after the welcome message, for the same 2-3 minutes. Both NICs are 10/100, but I have noticed that the one on the Linux box stays at 10Mbps (as indicated on the hub lights). Linux Box: NE2000-compatible 10/100 generic non-bus-mastering PCI NIC WinNT Box: Kingston EtherEx 10/100 bus-mastering PCI NIC I configured the NIC in the Linux Box according to the setup/installation program. What is causing the delay? Thanks much in advance... Gustaf B. ...back to the manuals...(or trial and *spark* *flash* *bang!*)
[newbie] Happy Holidays....
Merry X-Windowsmas Linux newbies! ewww, that's geeky. Apologies in advance. GJB
Re: [newbie] Various questions
All Compaq Presarios come with winmodems, but you can verify this by going to http://forum.Compaq.com, or by inspection. It will be a very small board with a single Rockwell processor and a 16 MHz xtal.
Re: [newbie] Happy Holidays....
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Gustaf Barkstrom wrote: Merry X-Windowsmas Linux newbies! Actually it would be just as proper to say Merry X-Mas. Alot of linux purists dont like the referral "X Windows". From what i understand, that's part of the reason its called X. you could also say Merry X11-mas or Merry XFree86-mas (that actually has a nice ring!). On the subj of books, i saw a really neat one today called Linux: I didnt know you could do that. . .its really simple exlpnations of some fairly complex tasks. . . -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
[newbie] newbie horrors (was Kernel)
Boy, all this dispute over ease of use, support, configuration problems, drivers, market-shares, blah blah blah. Just wanted to add that my install went fairly painlessly, got my modem to work w/ a little trouble, been figuring out how things work "under the hood", got my printer to print, screen resolutions are good, no BIG problems. It seems that I'm getting the hang of Linux, and I'm pretty happy about that. I really don't miss W95 now. Still have some reading to do, but, call me crazy, I LIKE learning how things work. And if I know how something works, I have to mess w/ it (sometimes screwing it up;-) to make it work better (or differently). I've only had a computer for a little over 3yrs now (I'm 22), and half the fun has been about problem solving. I'm not the network administrator in an office and I don't have to have the hottest new games... so, where do I fit in? Am I just a geek or what? Later -Josh
Re: [newbie] WOW,imagine that...eh?
Kit, Tried to go to your link just now and it didn't work. Don't know why, but you might want to check it. B. B. Kit wrote: amazing...eh? NOW I'm helping others -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 http://members.xoom.com/kitgoins
[newbie] IP Aliasing - Which way to setup?
I'm trying to add a few more IP addresses to my eth0 on linux-mandrake. I read that rc.local should contain the startup statements for the IPs but it is stored some where else. Would you happen to know where Mandrake keeps the startup statements for IP Aliasing when done through Linuxconf? What is the best way to set the IP Alias? Seve
Re: [newbie] newbie horrors (was Kernel)
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: call me crazy, I LIKE learning how things work. And if I know how something works, I have to mess w/ it (sometimes screwing it up;-) to make it work better (or differently). I've only had a computer for a little over 3yrs now (I'm 22), and half the fun has been about problem solving. I'm not the network administrator in an office and I don't have to have the hottest new games... so, where do I fit in? Am I just a geek or what? Later -Josh Join the club dude. . .i think the politically correct term is "hobbyist". Hehe, nothin wrosng with that. But i know what your sayin. Ive been messin with computer since i was 6, been programming about that long, building for a few years, etc. . .its fun. Linux is neat in that respect. . .lets u play around with it. if ya really want to learn about the internal workings of linux, you should read maurice bach's book (Design of the UNIX operating system) and The Linux Kernel book. . .both great reads. -- Seth Gibson Co-Founder/Moderator, Beginner's OpenGL Programming Site/List "We Support The Newbie Linux3d Project!" ---| http://www.egroups.com/groups/opengl-newbie| http://members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder/opengl| ---|
Re: [newbie] Two systems
Yes you can read files from different OS's partitions in a single system and I think there's a HOWTO or Mini HOWTO on it. I'm not at my machine with the information handy, but you simply direct LINUX to the location on the drive and grab the file. You can use Microsoft to get the data and then read it via LINUX. Bigger question, what makes a cable modem activated via LINUX different than through Windows that the cable company can't accommodate you? I don't have one and so ask out of ignorance. Hopefully someone will have the details, but it is possible. B. B. Robert Thrall wrote: I am running both Windows 98 and Linux-Mandrake 6.5 on my machine, but Windows is on one hard disk with these specs: Partition -1 Statis- A Type-PRI DOS Volume Label- My Computer Mbytes-8025 System-Fat 32 Usage-100%. I have loaded Mandrake-Linux 6.5 on a second hard disk with these specs: /dev/hdc3579M409M-used Avail-140M Mounted on / /dev/hdc1 547M 32K-used Avail-547M Mounted on-mnt/DOS_hdc1 My local cabel company COGECO informs me that no Linux system is compatible with their modems so I can not connect to the Internet through Linux. However, can Linux read Windows 98? Can I still dowload software in Windows and somehow transfer it to Linux. The word 'transfer' may be wrong, but can I use the two together somehow so that I can download software to the Linus system. Any help would be appreciated. Robert
Re: [newbie] Two systems
My local cabel company COGECO informs me that no Linux system is compatible with their modems so I can not connect to the Internet through Linux. However, can Linux read Windows 98? Can I still dowload software in Windows and somehow transfer it to Linux. The word 'transfer' may be wrong, but can I use the two together somehow so that I can download software to the Linus system. Any help would be appreciated. Robert alias mntwin="mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /Win" I put this line in '/etc/bashrc ', so that when I type 'mntwin' in a console, my C:\ drive, 1st partition is mounted, ie., Windows98. When I'm done I type 'umount /Win' to unmount Windows. Whether your C:\ drive is fat 16 or 32, this will let you navigate your Windows dir's just as if they were any other dir's under Linux. For this to work on your system you need to create a dir off '/' named 'Win', or name it anything you want and put it where ever you want, and edit the 'bashrc' line to match. 'Course you don't have to put the line in 'bashrc', but then you'll need to type ' mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /Win ' every time you want access to Windows. With Windows mounted, and two KFM windows open, one to the Windows dir where the files you want are, the other to the Linux dir you want to copy/move them to, it's then just a simple drag'n drop to transfer the files. -- .. Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [newbie] WOW,imagine that...eh?
Yeah, just checked myself...it was working fine last night... give me about 15 minutes...I'll startup my server...I have a copy of it...go here: http://kompukit.myip.org when there, click Kit's home page On 21 Dec 99, at 23:40, Toyswins wrote: Kit, Tried to go to your link just now and it didn't work. Don't know why, but you might want to check it. B. B. Kit wrote: amazing...eh? NOW I'm helping others -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 http://members.xoom.com/kitgoins ==Kit== ICQ#: 7110071 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HomePage: http://members.xoom.com/kitgoins Personal Server: http://kompukit.myip.org ==Kit==
Re: [newbie] How to bootup when rc file is messed up?
Sevatiothe below mini-distro will allow you to boot with a floppy and open your filesystem on your hard drive and access the file you need to fix/replace. http://www.toms.net/rb/ Alan Sevatio Octavio wrote: I managed to screwup my .rc file. How do I boot back in to correct it? Even booting off my floppy gets hungup when the system reads the rc file. Seve
Re: [newbie] Two systems
Bigger question, what makes a cable modem activated via LINUXdifferent than through Windows that the cable company can't accommodateyou? I don't have one and so ask out of ignorance. I answer out of ignorance... I think they aren't sure, and Linux to many people is this esoteric, radical OS; they *think* it won't work, know nothing about it, so they aren't willing to *see* if it'll work or not. It's much easier for them to set things up if they don't have to experiment w/ (or know anything about) anything other than Windose. Besides that, they wouldn't want to make any claims if they're not really *sure* they can back them (like "we support Linux!"). It's just safer for a company to stick to what they know, even if the answers are dangling in front of their face Besides, they've probably got a big enough customer base just supporting windows... Sad but true... Sometimes, I like giving cust. support (whenever I get ticked) a hard time just to say "hey!, I want some help over here, and your company doesn't give a rat's ass!" Later, I feel bad, cuz it's just a CSR, but then again, talking to a VP or something is impossible (voicemail, etc..), and they *really* don't want to hear it anyway. That's my "Deep Thought" for the night... Later -Josh
