Re: [newbie]disregard HELP and HELP2

2000-05-31 Thread TRBishop

On Mon, 29 May 2000, Edison Gica wrote:
 Guys kindly disregard HELP and HELP2 postings.
 
 I reinstalled LM 7 and rebooted and rebooted and it started to unmount 
 things and LO! it started working.
 
 Well if u have responded to it I will of course read your comments at least 
 I can have some idea on what could have happened.  Thanks in advance for 
 your replies.
 
 edison
 
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since I gave out some advice.  Enjoy!  I have found in Linux, that the most
frustrating problems yield the greatest satisfaction.  It's SO nice when
something finally works.and you made it work.  Tom
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Re: [newbie] About blackbox window manager

2000-05-31 Thread Andy

hey can i know how to configure it. I was able to do it from the blackbox
site. What did you have troubles with?
- Original Message -
From: flupke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] About blackbox window manager


 Hi Paul.

 I usually use Blackbox. I really like it!
 But I never figured out how to configure its menus.
 I didn't find any deep documentation on the official site or anywhere
 else.
 I suppose it is just because I didn't search correctly...
 I'm afraid I couldn't help you much in that matter. But I could install
 several bb applications (bb-pager, ...)

 However, I currently use mdk 7.1 hydrogen, and the menu configuration
 provided with it really fits me!
 But I'm still wondering how to configure it!
 If you (or anyone else) can help me, I'd be really glad.

 TIA
 Flupke

 Paul wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am toying about a bit with Blackbox.
  Some things puzzle me, though. Is there someone here that is a bit more
  proficient with blackbox? Thought I'd ask first, before throwing around
a
  bunch of questions...
 
  Paul
 
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Re: [newbie] Discussion: Changes Found in Mandrake 7.1

2000-05-31 Thread Dacia and AzureRose

Absolutely Jim.  I entirely did away with my windows
partition after dual-booting for a few months.  A few
weeks ago I re-installed wandows on a small drive
because I realized that I missed Half-Life more then I
hate wandows.  Its sad I know.

I will be stuck with a perfunctory windows partition
until I either lose interest in games, wine works
perfectly for all programs or all my favorite programs
are ported to linux.  Yep, that 3 gig wandows
partition is going to be with me like a carbuncle for
the forseeable future.


Dacia
--- Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The reward comes when you get it working!  I love
 the sense of
 accomplishment...the when you are using the programs
 and they don't crash, I
 sit here and smile all the time I am at the
 'puterI am almost ready to
 completely un-install windoze and run a linux only
 box here!
 
 Jim
 
 
 I downloaded  installed mandrake 7.0 on the
 recommendation of a friend.  I had a little bit of
 experience working in a Unix environment (FreeBSD I
 believe) but that was the extent of my familiarity. 
 I
 spent about two weeks reading hardware lists and
 gathering information about IRQs, DMAs, Horizontal
 and
 Vertical refresh rates, etc etc.
 
 The initial install went just fine.  The only things
 that didn't work right were my cdburner and I
 couldn't
 change any of my desktop settings in KDE (just
 learned
 why today from someones post to this list.).  That
 didn't bother me particularly.
 
 Boy I was overwhelmed the first time I sat looking
 at
 a KDE desktop wanting to listen to a cd and read my
 email.  It was at that point that I really began to
 realize how much I took wandows for granted.
 
 Anyway, theres my .02 on that subject.  Newbies
 aren't
 necessarily stupid nor uninformed, just lacking in
 experience with this specific OS.
 
 
 Dacia
 
 
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   P.S. IMHO any newbie who downloads their first
  install of
Linux instead of buying a documented package is
  truly nuts,
 
  --- is truely nuts then...snicker...DLed my
  first (RH 5.1)managed
  to install it and fumble around, then I got smart
  and bought Linux
  Unleased...so I could absorb clues in a faster
  fashion
 
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[newbie] Strange connection...

2000-05-31 Thread Corrado / Prometheus The Gifter

What I've just discovered is quiet stunning: when I try to connect with
a provider different from the one set during installation, all  goes
smooth except when I try to log on a IRC or ICQ server... every time it
seems the server does not even exists... that's what X-Chat tell me...
KXicq  too does not even managed to connect...

There is anything I can do?

Thank you!

Corrado




Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install

2000-05-31 Thread Dacia and AzureRose

thats a good idea Denis.  Why not add:
Office-
Errata- (molecular weight calculator, tea timer, etc.
fun, random or otherwise off the wall for the typical
user kinds of programs.)

to the check boxes?

Be sure to include clear indications of what is
installed with each of these options.  That seems to
be the real issue for a lot of us.  Clear indications
of what is included.


You guys ROCK!!  I am so pleased to be able to give
you feedback like this.  Thanks for asking and
listening to all of us.


Dacia

--- Denis HAVLIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, folks
 
 Here is one question concerning "Authomated" mode.
 Currently (7.1), in
 this mode you get "everything" except for
 "dangerous" server-packages
 installed, if there is enough place on your HD.
 
 From your recent posts, I got the impression that
 having a following
 screen pop-up during Authomated install would make
 lot of people happy:
 

+++

##
 
   Choose the number of installed packages X (Y MB)
 
  
 
   |   ## - This is a slider
 |
   |   ##
 |
  
 
MINIMAL 
 "EVERYTHING"
INSTALL
 
 
 [ ] Games
 [ ] Server applications
 [ ] Handicaped user
 

##
 HELP TEXT: Authomatic install will on default
 provide you with a
 standard workstation. By moving the slider, you can
 choose the amount 
 of software you want to install on your system: Even
 if you choose a
 minimal version, you will get a simple, but still
 rather confortable
 working enviroment. "Everything" installes
 everything, except for games
 and server aplications, unless corresponding
 checkboxes are checked. 
 "handicaped user" installs some hanidicaped-friendly
 programs, and lowers
 the priority of wiz-biz graphical programs.  


 Real gamers should obviously check "Games", And
 checking "Server
 application" would fire a warning "This can be
 dangerous, bla, bla...
 
 Now the questions are:
 
 1) Is this soemthing you wold like to have, that is
 - would any of you
 actually make use of authomated install with this
 option.
 2) Is this option clear enough?
 3) What about the three checkboxes?
 
 yours
   Denis
 
 
 
 


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[newbie]

2000-05-31 Thread Steve Sears


 I'm trying to find out if Mandrake Linux will support my logitech 
 wireless keyboard and mouse. Both require drivers to run on Win98, but 
 I've not been able to find out if linux will support them. This is the 
 only thing holding back my purchase and instalation.

 Any help would be appriciated.

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Re: [newbie] Help!!

2000-05-31 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Edisonno, the command is 'fdisk /mbr' not 'format /mbr'. 
And you need the program 'fdisk.exe' on the bootable dos
floppy.

Alan


Edison Gica wrote:
 
 Hi M.:
 
 Thanks for the reply.
 
 Yes, I have a windows boot disk and can boot from my floppy drive.  So i
 just give the command format /mbr thus overwriting my mbr and windows should
 still be working fine?
 
 edison
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Help!!
 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:55:13 +0100
 
 Have you got Windows boot disk (floppy)?
 
 
 
 If you don't have a windows boot floppy, then create one by booting into
 windows or create it on another machine.
 
 Once you have the boot floppy, then boot with the floppy. You may need to
 set-up your bios to boot from floppy!!
 At the prompt enter command format /mbr
 
 This should overwrite the Master Boot Record.
 
 M.
 
   I need help guys!
  
   I installed LM 7.0 in my 2nd HD under the 'Recommended' The first thing
 that
   came up in setup filesystems was:
  
   "I can't read your partition table, it's too corrupted for me. I'll try
 to
   go on blanking bad partitions bad magic numbers"
  
   Note that I installed the new 2nd HD neither partitioned nor formatted
 by
   either Windows or Linux.
  
   I clicked 'Cancel' and it went immediately to the setting up of
 partitions
   so I selected 'hdb'and 'auto allocate'.
  
   I also selected to create a boot disk.
  
   And...Charles LM installed LILO on my Windows disk!  There was no
 option
   after the create boot disk it jumped directly to Configure X! Boy..I
 did not
   want that to happen!
  
   After installing, it rebooted the computer and LILO came up :( so I
 entered
   to go to Linux. The Console mode login session came up but the screen
 would
   go on and off, what's wrong?
  
   I also tried to boot using the created 'boot disk' and an error came,
   error 0X10.
  
   Would sincerely appreciate any help guys.
  
   Is it possible to remove the LILO from my Windows disk and setup Linux
 to
   just boot from the 'boot disk'?
  
   edison
  
 
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Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install

2000-05-31 Thread J Walker

In seg, 29 mai 2000, Denis HAVLIK wrote:
 Hi, folks
 
 Here is one question concerning "Authomated" mode. Currently (7.1), in
 this mode you get "everything" except for "dangerous" server-packages
 installed, if there is enough place on your HD.
SNIP 
 Now the questions are:
 
 1) Is this soemthing you wold like to have, that is - would any of you
 actually make use of authomated install with this option.

Yes.  I used authomated install before, without knowing what it was, just
blindly trusting Mandrakesoft.  Call it the lemming spirit if you will.

 2) Is this option clear enough?

Yes.

 3) What about the three checkboxes?

Any particular reason for these 3 specific types of software?  Did they cause
more discussion/trouble? 

Thanks,
/J.

 
 yours
   Denis




Re: [newbie] Hello

2000-05-31 Thread Darryl Gibson

Hello list,

I think I'm the newist (?) newbie on the list. I signed up yesterday,
before I upgraded from RH 5.2 to Mandrake 7.

Andrew Scotchmer wrote:

 Though I would like some things to be made easier, most of which have been
 mentioned in the Discussion thread,  I do feel that to make it too user
 friendly would rob Linux of it's unique position and it's marvels.  Heck, if it
 becomes to user friendly with everything done without a thourght being required
 from the user, why don't we just all jack it in and reinstall Windoze
 
 What do you all think out there???

I'm not familiar with the history of this thread, but after wrestling
with an other linux install/config for nine months, I found the upgrade
to Mandrake to be a breeze, even if I did lose my mouse functionality in
the process. And while reconfiguring the mouse, I lost my keyboard too!
Somehow, Mandrake fixed things, after I told Lilo to boot my
"old_linux." What other OS. could manage to do that!?

I've accomplished more in 24 hours with Mandrake, than I have in a month
with my old Linux, let alone some other type of OS.

Linux may not be user friendly, at first, but the bug fixes are free,
and you don't have to wait a year + for the fixes to be rolled out.

Almost Microsoft free.

Darryl




RE: [newbie] HELP 2!!!

2000-05-31 Thread Viboon Chaojirapant

Hi Edison,

I am in the same situation as you. LILO seems to refuse to
'die' even when I use fdisk /mbr :(. Now it boots up
with a 'LIL-' and hangs the system.

I read somewhere on this mailing list that LILO is more used
for dual booting from same HD, not from different HDs. I'm
not sure whether this is the cause of the problem.

Let's hope we can find some solution soon.

 -Original Message-
 From: Edison Gica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] HELP 2!!!
 
 
 Guys..here's more info re my [newbie] HELP posting.
 
 I tried re-booting and it went to Kudzu and identified my 
 external modem and 
 still that blinking command console.
 
 I turned off the computer and re-booted again. This time it won't go to 
 Linux. I pressed 'Tab' and the following 4 options came out:
 
 1) linux-fb
 2) windows
 3) floppy
 4) linux
 
 Both linux-fb and linux gave this error: block mover error 0xAE
 
 The floppy gives, 0X10.
 
 I tried to type rescue and gave the same error: 0X10.
 
 Would greatly appreciate ur help.
 
 edison
 
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Re: [newbie] please help

2000-05-31 Thread KompuKit

I changed ISP's a week ago...
the other ISP...only took about ten minutes to come back to me

Paul wrote:
 
 On Mon, 29 May 2000, KompuKit wrote:
 
 it still doesn't work right...there is still about a 7 hour delay
 attached is an email from my ISP about the problem:
 
 Only 7 hours? Sometimes with me it happens that it takes more than a day
 before I get something back that I post. And I know it is not a problem
 with my ISP, that is fast enough.
 
 I would not worry too much
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[newbie] RE: [expert] Can't Pinpoint Problem - Experts Please Help.

2000-05-31 Thread Jose M. Sanchez



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Sheldon Lee Wen
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Can't Pinpoint Problem - Experts Please Help.


"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote:

 Eh, no. ld-linux.so.2 is not a part of Netscape...

 [root@router /home/opjose]# rpm -qf /lib/ld-linux.so.2
 glibc-2.1.2-9mdk

 Which is not to say that some process hasn't spawned off a CPU killer as
 they may...

Yes and that process is netscape.

[root@shugaru sheldonl]# cat /usr/bin/netscape | grep ld-linux
exec
/usr/$sysname-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 \
exec
/usr/$sysname-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 \
exec
/usr/$sysname-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 \
exec
/usr/$sysname-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 \
   exec /usr/$sysname-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2
\

Sheldon.



Eh, your point? (and ld-linux.so.2 is still not a part of Netscape...)

Practically every other application does this. The vast majority do so
without tying up the CPU...

Interestingly enough, I USED to have similar problems with Netscape doing
the same thing. I stress the past tense... other programs would also exhibit
similar behavior.

I'll bet that Netscape tendency to do this is highly dependant upon the
version of the ld-linux/glibc libraries it is compiled against.

My Redhat 6.0 box did this constantly until I updated both Netscape and the
Libs.
Now it's one of 5 upgraded to Mandrake 7.02...

My Mandrake 7.02 boxes have not done this once... yes I might get the
OCCASIONAL Netscape crash, but I have not had a runaway process since
performing a clean install of 7.02.

-JMS






[newbie] Removing a windows partition

2000-05-31 Thread Eric Mings

I originally setup my disk with both linux and a windows partition. I am 
no longer using windows on this machine and would like to remove the 
partition without risk of damaging my linux data. Ideally I would like to 
be able to expand one of my linux partitions to take advantage of the new 
space, however making a new linux partition would be an acceptable option 
as well. How can I do this without the possibility of damaging my linux 
system data? Thanks.


Regards,

Eric Mings Ph.D.




[newbie] WeirdX XDMCP, and all that Jazz

2000-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey,

I'm having trouble understanding what WeirdX, and XDMCP do. This is what I
think they do, If I'm wrong or you have anything to say on this subject,
please send a message to the list.

Ok so to my understanding XDMCP is the protcol that XDM uses to allow
clients to login to a remote computer running X.

So this is what I'm thinking might be possible, linux box running XFree86
and xdm, configured to allow remote access. And a windows box running
WeirdX.  Is it possible to login to the linux box from the Windows box over
the net using XDMCP?

I'm really clueless when it comes to this sort of thing, so any pages, with
info or anybody who wants to tell me their 2 cents on this subject, feel
free to post a message,

THanks.  




Re: [newbie] Colors

2000-05-31 Thread Fran Parker

Hi Paul (Denis2 :)

I will try this out.

I thought I would also try just leaving the
owner as root, but allow writes by the group users to see
if that would work.

Do you think this would work too?

Thanks

Bambi


Paul wrote:

 On Tue, 30 May 2000, Fran Parker wrote:

 Hi Denis,
 If this is an installer bug...how can it be fixed?
 
 Thanks,
 Bambi

 Hi, this is Denis2 *grin*

 as root do a chown user.user for .kderc

 e.g.
 chown fran.fran .kderc
 or
 chown bambi.bambi .kderc

 Paul

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Re: [newbie]

2000-05-31 Thread Vic

I would like to pitch my 2 cents in.

I think that there should be more than one way to
go (if this has already bneen discussed sorry about that)

Options to have a very user frendly install and config, keyword config,
and for experts, another mode so they can install with Power.


On Tue, 30 May 2000, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
 On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:
 
  Since linux is about 10 times more powerful than microshaft how can you
 expect to un-pack the box and be an expertthere are literally hundreds of
 books out there and a ton of helpful people here, now all you have to do is
 become a learned user, read, learn, try, re-install ;) when you mess up and
 start over. 
 
 Nice comments Jim and thats the only way to learn.  I beleave that in the
 original message to this thread it was said to make linux as user friendly as it
 possibly can be.  
 
 Though I would like some things to be made easier, most of which have been
 mentioned in the Discussion thread,  I do feel that to make it too user
 friendly would rob Linux of it's unique position and it's marvels.  Heck, if it
 becomes to user friendly with everything done without a thourght being required
 from the user, why don't we just all jack it in and reinstall Windoze
 
 What do you all think out there???
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Re: [newbie] sound problems

2000-05-31 Thread philomena

Hi Paul,

Tried that and no good. There are a few odd things now - when running
sndconfig and the sample sound is attempted, an error is displayed about not
accessing /dev/audio. I checked the permissions and it was set to root/sys. I
changed it to root/audio and also root/root - made no difference. Same
problem happens now when I try to run kmixer - trouble accessing /dev/mixer.
Changing the permissions 'seem' to help - at least mixer will run, but then,
if I reboot - it all goes back to how it was. When running the sound config
tool in Drakconf/Hardware, the test sound will play, but when clicking OK, an
error message is displayed about accessing the directory you mentioned -
/dev/dsp, even after your suggested change. Also, if in the KDE Control
Center I try to display system information about sound, nothing is listed for
any of the devices. I figure the driver has to be OK if CDs play, but I don't
know where to look for this .wav problem, especially since all was fine in
7.02. I can't seem to find documentation about trouble-shooting sound
problems.

thx,
philomena

Paul wrote:

 On Mon, 29 May 2000, philomena wrote:

 Try this one (as root):

 chmod a+rw /dev/dsp

 That helped me get around the same problem

 Paul

 I have a Soundblaster Live! card. In 7.02, as long as I downloaded and
 installed the most current driver from the Creative Labs opensource
 site, my sound worked great - could play CDs, wavs, mp3, etc..
 
 In 7.1beta3, with the updated drivers, I can play CDs, but no system
 sounds (wavs) and so far, no MP3s. When I run the sound configuration in
 DrakConf (in the hardware section) the card is properly identifed, and
 the test sound plays fine - I have finally gotten confirmation on the
 proper pronunciation of "Linux" :-)
 However, still no system sounds - I have system sounds enabled in the
 KDE control sytem, but no tests play. For a while, no mixers would play
 - either aumix or kmix, but now thay are - frankly, I don't know why.
 But those apps show the volume and settings are all fine. Searching thru
 the mail archives, I saw others having similar problems, but couldn't
 find any post with a solution. Any suggestions on what else I can try
 would be appreciated.
 One great thing about 7.1 - it recognizes all my removeable devices -
 CDRW, ZIP drive and floppy - 7.02 didn't !!
 
 cheers,
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RE: [newbie] Modem

2000-05-31 Thread Jose M. Sanchez


1) Did you disable an existing port on your computer... I.E. COM1 or COM2
prior to installing the modem? If not you are better off doing this!

2) Set the modem up to use the same COM port as the one you disabled. Do
this in HARDWARE... with jumpers.

3) No jumper? Hmm... do you have a Winmodem/PCI. With one or two exceptions
all Winmodems are not currently supported under Linux. This is not a problem
with Linux, rather with the modem.

See:

http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

-JMS

-Original Message-
From: sandman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Modem


My linux won't see my modem. I've tried linking it to no avail.

It's a USR voice/data modem from a year ago.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.





Re: [newbie] Problem updating xemacs

2000-05-31 Thread Don Jenkins

Don't know the answer, but I tried the same update last night and got the
same errors.  

Don J.

On Sun, 28 May 2000, Wilson, Al wrote:

 Hello, all.
 
 Is anyone having trouble using Mandrake Update to update emacs.
 Mandrake Update lists four packages to update, but I keep getting two
 errors:
 
 file /usr/bin/xemacs from install of xemacs-21.1.-7mdk conflicts with file
 from package xemacs-base-21.1.8-3
 
 file /usr/bin/b2m from install of xemacs-extras-21.1.9-7mdk conflicts with
 file from package emacs-20.5-3mdk
 
 The result is that I cannot update emacs. I can find nothing in the way of
 help for Mandrake Update.
 
 Also, is there a way to tell which mirror I have selected? Which mirrors are
 updated most frequently? I cannot find a mirror with the kdesu update on it.
 
 Where are the RPMs stored? Are they added to the existing RPMs on my drive? 
 
 So many questions; so few answers.
 
 Thank you,
 Al Wilson
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Re: [newbie] usubscribe

2000-05-31 Thread Treos

At 01:18 PM 05/30/2000 -0400, you wrote:
 usubscribe

Yes, we know we subscribe :-)




RE: [newbie] ph0-tone / Music programs

2000-05-31 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

I'll raise your URL and throw out;
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/

For a more interesting list...

-JMS


-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] ph0-tone / Music programs


On Mon, 29 May 2000, pH0-tone wrote:

I can't install Linux Mandrake 7.0 on an Ultra66 (www.promise.com) drive.
Linux becomes unable to find any hard drives.
I can install it on my IDE onboard controller hard drive, but then it won't
recognize my U66 drive. But I want to get it well! I want Linux to
recognize
and find anything. I want Linux to work for me and for the Humanity!!! I
want that Linux has all the features and more than that FUCKING ÂÌÑÄØ
windows...
I want Linux to work just as it was thought to... And I wonder why there
are
so little music programs for Linux. Such an impression that Linux is for
hackers only. Please remove this impression! Make Linux as friendly as it
must be. The friendlier the system, the better the world!

For music programs, look at www.linuxberg.com and www.linuxapps.com. There
are quite some music programs out there, believe me. You just need to know
where they are.
Isn't that true though for all things good?

Paul

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RE: [newbie] Setting lilo to dual boot 98 from separate drive???

2000-05-31 Thread Jose M. Sanchez



-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey B. Ferland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Setting lilo to dual boot 98 from seperate
drive???


On Mon, 29 May 2000, "Aaron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux is on the primary disc (hda) and win98 is on the secondary disc
(hdb).
I tried adding it to lilo but when I choose win98 at boot it doesn't do
anything.  Do I have to do anything to win98 to make this work?  What do I
need to do?
Thanks,
Aaron

I thought I would be asking for help on this list, instead my first post is
help...

LILO loads Linux and allows other OSes on the SAME HD to boot. You would
have to re-configure your BIOS to boot from drive D: (as Windoze sees it).
Unfortuneately many BIOSes don't know how to boot from anything other than
A:, C:, SCSI, and CD-ROM



No not true at all.

A lot of people miss one of Lilo's neatest tricks.

It can remap the "hardware"... what? You ask... is he talking about?

Lilo can make you D: drive your C: drive... it can also do this to your
third and fourth hard drive.

Using Lilo you can put an OS on each drive and have each available to boot.
When the respective OS comes up, it will think it "booted" and "owns" the
boot device...

Huh? From the Man page for lilo.conf...

 disk=device-name
Defines  non-standard  parameters for the specified
disk.  See section "Disk geometry" of user.tex  for
details.   Especially useful is the `bios=' parame­
ter.  The BIOS numbers your disks 0x80, 0x81,  etc.
and  it  is  impossible  to decide which Linux disk
corresponds to which BIOS disk (since this  depends
on  the BIOS setup, and on the type of BIOS), so if
you have an unusual setup you  need  to  state  the
correspondence  between Linux disks and BIOS disks.
For example,

disk=/dev/sda
bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hda
bios=0x81

would say that your SCSI disk  is  the  first  BIOS
disk,  and  your  (primary  master) IDE disk is the
second BIOS disk.

Clear as mud...

What this means is that you can use a parameter such as

disk=/dev/hdb
bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hda
bios=0x81

The above lines make the "D:" drive the "C:" drive and the "C:" drive the
"D:" drive.

Using the above, you can put Windows 98 on the second hard drive and boot to
it after selecting WIN98 from Lilo... Windows comes up thinking it's on the
C: drive (which it is not).

You can further extend this trick quite a bit... read the man, mam.

-JMS





[newbie] Pauls proposed website

2000-05-31 Thread Oliver L. Plaine Jr.

On Tue, 30 May 2000 19:42:54 +0200 (CEST), Paul wrote:

Paul
who is thinking about collecting all the assistance here and putting that
up on a website...
=
Tue, 30 May 2000  21:43:28

That is a lovely Idea Paul, it would be a perfect endeavor for you,
you have a wealth of knowledge and a desire to assist us poor
unfortunates..

 How many times have you heard "my memory wont show up"? or
please unxcroobe me"..no wait. not that one...but  many repeating
difficulties that us new wienies have redundantly?

Finding information in the sea available has always been
difficult for me..I never seem to find exactly what I want, just
everything else in the world..even searching archives has not been
satisfactory..maybe if someone would write it on my forehead? or put a
lot of common data on a nice categorized web site.

It sounds like a noble project

Who knows? perhaps several years from now, I will know enough to be
able to volunteer to assist you.?

Olly P
Biloxi
Mississippi




Re: [newbie] Help!!

2000-05-31 Thread Kenny

It doesnt, the computer just hangs if you just do fdisk/mrb I've done it
before as an experiment with no lilo and even before i screwed up linux i
had to do that no go.

Kenny
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From: "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Help!!


 On Mon, 29 May 2000 15:45:48 HST,edison wrote:

 Would sincerely appreciate any help guys.
 
 Is it possible to remove the LILO from my Windows disk and setup Linux to
 just boot from the 'boot disk'?
 
 edison
 =
 Tue, 30 May 2000  14:28:01

 Believe it or not edison, I have had the same feeling you are
 experiencing right now...

 If you wish to remove your LILO from the MBR the easiest way I
 know is to start the computer with a DOS/Windows boot disc and type
 Fdisk/mbr this will write the mbr back to a windows configuration and
 when you boot again it should start   MS windows.

 good luck, you will recover
 Olly P
 Biloxi
 Mississippi



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Re: McMillan monopoly [was [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.]

2000-05-31 Thread Ron Peake

Hi Denis
 I thank heavens that I live in Finland and still have a choice from whom I
can buy Mandrake-Linux! 
Regards,
Ron

On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:
 Pre-ordering does not mean much, does it? Soon you will be able to buy 7.1
 all over the place. BTW, McMillan now has exclusive rights on all
 english-speaking countries, so there will be no separate "Mandrake" and
 McMillan" products to confuse you anymore AFAIK.
 
 cu
   Denis
 
 :~What do the people at MandrakeSoft or MacMillan suggest?
 :~
 :~"Whoops!  I meant Michael, sorry Paul.
 :~
 :~Paulwith or without docs you can pre-order 7.1 at:
 :~
 :~http://www.LLand.com/products/
 :~
 :~Alan"
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Re: [newbie] Re-partitioning the hard disk

2000-05-31 Thread Ron Peake

Hi Dick

I have experienced the same problem and in my case it resulted from letting
Mandrake's Diskdrake 'fiddle' with the partitions created by Partition Magic.
The only solution that I found was to let Nortons DiskDoctor fix the partition
tables, then resize the partitions again using Partition Magic 4,01.

Mandrake Sofware suggested in January or February of this year to use a later
version of their Diskdrake program instead of the one which was in release 7,0.
But in my PC, there was no improvement.  
So from my experience, Mandrake's program is still unable to
alter vfat or even linux partitions safely, in a way which allows other
operating systems such as DOS/Windows to also use them.

Ron




Re: [newbie] Modem

2000-05-31 Thread Jon Lindberg

sandman wrote:

 My linux won't see my modem. I've tried linking it to no avail.

 It's a USR voice/data modem from a year ago.

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks.

Hi Sandman,

Chances are real good what you have here is a
winmodem, i.e. junk that won't work with linux I take it that your
modem is a internal model, if this is the case be advised that most
current internal modems are winmodems. Winmodems utilize software based
compression routines, as where very few internal,and all external modems
do compression in the hardware As it stands right now what you need
for linux is a "hardware" modem.
The software compression routines used by winmodems are propritary to to
maker of the modem,and thats the rub...
For winmodems to work in linux  you have to convince the maker of the
modem to write drivers for linux.

Lindy




Re: [newbie] Help!!

2000-05-31 Thread Paul

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Edison Gica wrote:

Hi Charles:

It's all right. Programs works in a peculiar way on each computer.

uhh...someone said format /mbr or i should use fdisk/MBR? So once I do 
either (the correct one) of these it will overwrite Lilo and windows will 
still be working normally?

regards,
edison

Both work. As long as you put a space between command and parameter.
Windows is not case sensitive. (Very insensitive...)
Paul

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Re: [newbie] Why MPEGs are so slow??

2000-05-31 Thread Hellmut

Hi Nickolay!

Aktion sucks for MPEG, try out MpegTV. It's on the fifth or sixth CD or
available at www.mpegtv.com. It has to be registered  ($10) to play the
anims with sound, but it also has a command line version which offers sound,
but no gui.
Cheers!



 Hello!

 I tried to use aKtion to play my MPEG files, and the speed of playback is
 ~1fps. What is the reason of it?

 System: PIII-500, ASUS V3800TVR nVidia based card, XFree 3.3.6

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
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[newbie] sound problem

2000-05-31 Thread Juan Manuel Fluxa

hi.
When I run the sndconfig program the system detects a AZT3000 PnP Sound
Device and when I run the sound card test this ocurrs:
ISA PNP Error
Don't know what to do with configure AZT3000/-1 (LD 1 on or around 72
/etc/isapnp.conf :72 --Fatal - Error ocurred parsing config file - No action
taken.

I have tried to configure the sound card device as a Sound Blaster Pro, in
the test am able to listen the voice but the midi is fails.
Thanks





Re: [newbie] some problems after new install

2000-05-31 Thread Fireman71

ok, I reformatted and reinstalled (again) thinking i might have missed
something up during the installation. Now the mail problem seems to be
fixed but i was still getting a connection refused message when i tried to
telnet and ftp into my machine. I checked the /etc/inetd.conf file and
telnet and ftp are not commented out so they should be running. One thing
i did find was that mandrak apparently didnt set inetd up to be called and
run in the /etc/rc.d scripts. I added it to rc3.d and rc5.d so that it
would get started up when the computer came up and an now getting:

telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain.
Escape character is '^]'
Connection closed by foreign host.

Getting the same thing via ftp as well, connected then disconnected. Is
there something else that i need to have running for these services to
accept connections? ipchains has no rules in it other then in the
forwarding section for masquerading (which works btw) and all policies are
set to accept on input and output so the firewall shouldnt be blocking
anything. Anyone got any other ideas?


All assistance is GREATLY appreciated,
Ian K. Harrell
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---Reply to mail from Paul about [newbie] some problems after  new install
 On Tue, 30 May 2000, Fireman71 wrote:
 
1 - when trying to send an email with the mail command i got the message ::
 "/etc/sendmail.cf: line 0: cannot open: No such file or directory"
so i went and checked, sure enough, there is no file there. I then went
back to the mandrake cd and tried :: "rpm -Uv sendmail-*" which responded
with the reply "sendmail conflicts with postfix-19991231-3mdk" anyone got
any ideas on how i can get this one fixed?
 
 With "kpackage" first locate and uninstall Postfix. Then install
 Sendmail. I know these two don't like each other.
 
2 - I am now no longer able to telnet or ftp in to my computer either via
localhost or from another machine on my lan or over the Internet. trying
telnet localhost, telnet 127.0.0.1, etc all result in "telnet: Unable to
connect to remote host: Connection refused" ftp localhost gives "ftp:
connect: Connection refused" I am able to masq through this Linux box with
a comp running win98 for http access. Meaning that i can go to my win
machine and tell netscape on it to go to www.mandrake.com and it will
bring the page up and that all works fine. I can even access the default
web page for apache from my win machine with "http://192.168.0.1" Also
telnet and ftp work fine for going out. just when i try to connect in does
it refuse it
 
 From what I learnt here, you could check if ftp and telnet are allowed in
 your /etc/inetd.conf file. Of course, I may be wrong...
 
 Paul
 
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[newbie] high security server and ftp and telnet

2000-05-31 Thread rharvey

I setup a linux box with the server choice and high security.  I finally
found the place to turn on the web service. http web services are running
now. The ftp seems to be installed. all the info I have found says its all
set up but I can't ftp into the server. I need ftp to upload my web pages.
I also want telnet. It does not work either.  i can ping the server. I can
go from the server to other computers thru telnet.

Is it the security level?
do i need to re-install and set the secutity level down?
How do I get access to the services.. ( I do not have the gui auto loading.
i can startx but i can't get any of the gui's to run..kde...gnome..ect...)
so I guess any info sent on how to fix this will have to be no-gui commands.

thanks in advance
Robert




[newbie] DON'T just say Help!

2000-05-31 Thread Glyn Millington

Hi.

Can I make suggestion? - hell, I'm going to.  When you post to
the list could you make the subject line tell us something about
your problem or news, rather than simply the fact that you need
help?  Almost ALL of us need help, that's why we're here.
All sorts of good reasons for that

1. It helps those who know about the problem you have to spot it
straight away.

2. It helps those who don't know about your problem and who
aren't interested to delete the message and not waste time.


3. It stops my wonderful mail client (Mutt - it's marvellous)
from presenting me with threads a mile long that say nothing but
Help - Help -Help - Help -Help - Help -Help - Help -Help -
Help - Help - Help -Help - Help -Help - Help -Help - Help -


ANY kind of indication of the nature of your problem is better than 

"Help!"
or "Newbie in trouble!"
or even "Expert stumped"

Sorry - grumble over.


Peace be with you all

Glyn M.

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Re: Re[2]: [[newbie] Discussion: Changes Found in Mandrake 7.1

2000-05-31 Thread michael

On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:
 Just out of curiosity - IDE or SCSI?  I don't remember seeing you specifing 
 anywhere (but I missed the begining of this thread).
 
  charles,
  it's an oemmer for sure and when i called panasonic they said it was too
  new for the drivers to be on their website. My source(computer123)
  promised manual, cables Adaptec cd and a 10 pack of recordable media
  which they provided with the exception of the manual. Windows won't
  recognize it; Linux will, but only to read from...caveat emptor i
  guess...
  =michael=
  
  
 
 
 Ty C. Mixon
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-- PROBLEM SOLVED!thanks for replying!
 
-michael-




Re: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.

2000-05-31 Thread michael

On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:
 MichaelI've forwarded your message to them, let's see what
 happens.
 
 Alan

Thank you.
-- 
 
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Re: [newbie] Resizing Panels

2000-05-31 Thread Edison Gica

Hi Alan:

Thanks for your reply.

Sorry for not being explicit.  What I was trying to say was the panel that 
pops up when u click for example 'DrakConf' or the CD icons on the screen.  
These things are just very tall that even if I hide the panel (the one that 
u are referring to) i still can't see the 'OK', 'Quit', 'Apply' buttons.

The panel configuration u referred too works all right.

edison

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Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:09:42 +0100

On Mon, 29 May 2000, you wrote:
  How can you resize the panels.

Hi Edison,
  If you are using KDE click on the K menu icon and select Panel, and 
configure.
There you will be able to choose where the panel is positioned on the 
desktop
and choose it's size ( tiny, normal, large )
  If it is Gnome then I think you can not change the panels size though I 
may be
wrong on that.

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Re: [newbie] Removing a windows partition

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~I originally setup my disk with both linux and a windows partition. I am 
:~no longer using windows on this machine and would like to remove the 
:~partition without risk of damaging my linux data. Ideally I would like to 
:~be able to expand one of my linux partitions to take advantage of the new 
:~space, however making a new linux partition would be an acceptable option 
:~as well. How can I do this without the possibility of damaging my linux 
:~system data? Thanks.

1) change partition type, format it (diskdrake)
2) bind it into system as /mnt/new (or such)
3) move the data from some existing partition there (/home/ sounds fine,
but your mileage may vary)
4) remove old /home, edit /etc/fstab so that your new partition gets
mounted on right place and either reboot or just remount the partition to
where it should be.

voila

Denis   

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Re: [newbie] unsubcribe

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~Please take me off the list to recieve these emails.

magic word is UNSUBSCRIBE





Re: [newbie] offline news reader

2000-05-31 Thread laurent . duperval

On 30 May, Claus Atzenbeck wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 is there any good offline news reader for Linux which can handle
 different news server at once?
 
 KRN is for offline reading, but I only can use 1 news server.
 
 Thanks for your answer!
 
 Regards,
 Claus.
 

Pan for GNOME? http://www.superpimp.org/ I've also had some success with
tin.

L

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Re: [newbie] Text to image

2000-05-31 Thread Laurent Duperval

Corrado / Prometheus The Gifter wrote:
 
 Thanks, never had to do with such a matter, before! Can you tell me where
 can I find those decoders, please?
 

Do a search for uudeview. Isn't this installed with the distro? If not, add it
as a request.

L

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Re: [newbie] usubscribe

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

what is this? Cannot spell contest? Hey, I am the champ in bad spelling,
don't even try... And correct spelling is:

UNSUBSCRIBE

cu
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Re: [newbie] HP Deskjet 950C

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~I had already searched thru that site and there was no mention of this 
:~printer model. Anywhere else to look ?

ask hp, they should know it. We do not have this printer here, sorry. 
And add the entry to DB once you know it.

cu
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Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - Install

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~Denis,
:~
:~How about a "Dear Santa, I want it all" selection?  I know I can get that
:~through the expert install but even this is confusing as there is a server /
:~workstation selection (and something else if memory serves me) and this fails
:~to make much sense.

See what i proposed in "Authomatic Install" letter.
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Re: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~It will still be confusing to many folks if, like they did
:~with 6.1, MacMillan decides to market 7.1 as 7.5!!  Their
:~excuse was that more people will purchase an upgrade sequenced
:~by .5 than would have bought it sequenced if sequenced by only
:~.1.  Sheesh!!

AFAIK this is not allowed by our new contract. And there will be only one
pack in english-speaking countries - from McMillan.

cu
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Re: [newbie] Colors

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

Niet te geloven!

Ik heb een alter-ego uit Nederlanden!

! .-)

Next thing you know I will walk around in clogs... I already have a
bike. 

Denis

:~Hi Denis,
:~If this is an installer bug...how can it be fixed?
:~
:~Thanks,
:~Bambi
:~
:~Hi, this is Denis2 *grin*
:~
:~as root do a chown user.user for .kderc
:~
:~e.g.
:~chown fran.fran .kderc
:~or
:~chown bambi.bambi .kderc
:~
:~Paul

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Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~That would be "wondermus" 8-)   Just out of evil curiosity, what are the
:~dangers of installing "server applications"?

After you have installed server application, you are supposed to configure
it too, in order to restrict the possibility of someone comming onto your
system trough "back door". Then, from time to time someone WILL find a
security-gap in some of these apps, so you have to stay alert and upgrade
quickly. This kind of stuff. 

cu
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Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Paul wrote:

:~Would be handy to have some indication in a .DOC file as to what basic
:~packages one can expect in let's say 5 steps of the slider. If this is
:~possible, of course.

Inpossible, I am afraid. Basically, we would try to keep the same
functionality all the way, but on minimal install you would get only KDE +
aplications we consider "top importance", while on "full install" you
would have all kinds of window managers, ten different editors etc.

:~
:~2) Is this option clear enough?
:~
:~It is for me. Perhaps an extra checkbox for "Internet apps" would be
:~handy, but I assume people that use Linux in general want to climb onto
:~the Net.

This is top priority - they ALWAYS get installed. (in minimal install you
would get like ONE graphic enviroment (KDE for now), ONE editor, ONE
e-mail prog, ONE newsreader... Probably netscape on top of it until we can
get rid of it once for all.  

cu
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Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION Authomatic Install

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~ 3) What about the three checkboxes?
:~
:~Any particular reason for these 3 specific types of software?  Did they cause
:~more discussion/trouble? 

These three are just a proposal. I thought that even complete newbie must
have some particular whishes which we should let him express, no matter
how simple this particular install class may be. 

1) "Games" popped up as one example in my mind. because it is a huge group
of packages especially if you have Power Pack, and not everyone really
wants them, but those who do really do. .-)

2) Server: because we do not want to include these on default (dangerous),
yet I could imagine that having a quickdirty way of installing a server
may be fine for some people: move the slider to "minimal install", click
on "server apps", let go. Configure server apps in post-install and voila,
a new server!  

3) Disabled: This is new. I was asked by a blind guy if we could include
some programs for blind and for people who have problems with hands. This
chategory does not exist yet, but if we introduce it, it will do several
"inteligent" things at once:

1) change the way programs are choosen. Obvious things to do would be
lowering priority of all the fancy grafical stuff and highering the
priority of easy to use programs. Probably also highering the priority of
"sound" with respect to "view", too. 
2) install additional programs which are ONLY usefull to blind people,
like progs which can do something with braile terminals.

Obviously, if a blind man has to do install by himself, you want to keep
things as simple as possible for him, right(*)? I mean, you do not want to 
hide this option somewhere in the middle of expert install. So, add a
checkbutton to "Authomatic" install and be done with it.  

I repeat - at the moment, this option exists only in my head, but our
general opinion here is "well, if we can help them withouth having to
change too much, why not?" 
-

If anyone can think of other checkbuttons which would be better than
these, no problem, but keep in mind:

- Only a few buttons
- Simple terms so that everyone can understand them
- default is "no"
- Should be something what is REALLY important to one class of people,
while considered complete junk by others.
- things like "software for tv cards" are going to be installed
authomatically if we can recognise the card - no checkboxes needed.

cu
Denis

(*) Blind people are not stupid, but they cannot see, and the install IS
visually oriented. I suppose they do not apreciate things like trees,
pop-up menues and color-coding at all. Things like "click here" (ooops,
where is here?), "upper left side", "red button" and all other
visually-oriented stuff do not make any sense if you are blind (unless
you have a braille terminal, in which case left-right etc. do make sense.)

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Re: [newbie] upgrading questions

2000-05-31 Thread michael

On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:
 Michaelthe only differences between the 7.0 and 7.0-2 iso
 images (the GPL CD or 'disc one' in a boxed set) is in the
 installation routines, that means the programs whose only job
 is to actually run the installation process.  The end product
 of that installation, that means the software that is on your
 hard drive after the installation is complete is exactly the
 same no matter which iso image (GPL CD or 'disc 1') you used
 to do the install.  Concerning the extra CD's in a boxed set,
 there will be no difference in a boxed set other than 'disc 1'
 and I already explained the difference between the two
 possible 'disc one's' at the beginning of this message.  None
 of the 'extra' CD's in any of the boxed sets have changed.
 
 Alan
 
 
 Michael wrote:
  
  Paul,
  Does this mean I can go ahead and install the 3 cd's I got with the cheapo
  version of "7.0 complete" without worrying that I will "degrade" my current
  7.02
  install. And does it mean that I can just throw any distro over mandrake
  and pick and choose as to what I feel are the best of each, rolling it into
  my own custom version?
  
  You writ:
  My Linux setup is a long history of upgrades. Started with RedHat 5.0,
  went to RedHat 6.0, dumped Mandrake 6.1 over that, and now I upped it to
  Mandrake 7.02. All the programs that are not on the distribution CD keep
  working correctly, I have not had any problem with anything yet.
  Also setting up the drivers for my AGP videocard (Diamond Speedstar) and
  the settings in XF86Config were left alone.
  
  Paul
-- 
Thanks guys. I'm going to wait for aa non beta 7.1 before upgrading and send
this set(complete with docs) to a kid i know down south...
  -michael-




Re: [[newbie] Discussion: Panasonic CW7585B

2000-05-31 Thread michael

Gang-

The problem is solved!. I have said goodbye to gatesian controls and
eradicated every trace of his influence on my humble system and reinstalled
Mandrake on my whole box and even though I lost everything in both during the
process, I now am using kmail/fetchmail and have a working cdrom as well as a
working cd burner! 

Thanks for all the support in the interim though. I appreciate it!

-michael-




Re: [newbie] Resizing Panels

2000-05-31 Thread Edison Gica

Hi Paul:

The panels i'm referring to are those that pops up when u click for example 
the CD icon or DrakConf icon.  It's like in Windows when u click 'My 
Computer'.

I tried to go to X Res to change the resolution but my X res just does not 
work the resolutions selection panel does not pop up.  Someone was saying 
that there might be some incompatibility w/ my video card (i have a Compaq 
PC w/ integrated Trident 3D/MVP4 video card) thust the X Config and X res 
does not work.

edison

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Subject: Re: [newbie] Resizing Panels
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:54:09 +0200 (CEST)

On Mon, 29 May 2000, Edison Gica wrote:

 How can you resize the panels. The panels on my screen are large that I 
can
 view the buttons at the bottom even if I move it up I just can't see it.
 
 thanks all.
 
 edison

'scuse my ignorance, but what "panels" do you mean?

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RE: [newbie] Modem problems

2000-05-31 Thread Jose M. Sanchez

Either you don't have your chat script properly set up... you may be VERY
close...

Or your ISP is using chap/pap authentication and you have not set it up.

-JMS


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Subject: [newbie] Modem problems


I setup my external modem and it was identified by LM however everytime I
connect it always gives me "PPP timed out".

Thanks for ur help.

edison

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Re: [newbie] About blackbox window manager

2000-05-31 Thread flupke

Thanks a lot for your help but I could configure my menus, finally.
I just didn't saw that there was a "session.menuFile" entry in the
~/.blackboxrc file.

Now, I can have my menu the way I want. But Paul still can't set the
window raising as he want to do it (raising a window when he clicks
anywhere on it). And I would also be interrested in knowing how to do
it.

Thanks again
Flupke

Andy wrote:
 
 hey can i know how to configure it. I was able to do it from the blackbox
 site. What did you have troubles with?
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 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] About blackbox window manager
 
  Hi Paul.
 
  I usually use Blackbox. I really like it!
  But I never figured out how to configure its menus.
  I didn't find any deep documentation on the official site or anywhere
  else.
  I suppose it is just because I didn't search correctly...
  I'm afraid I couldn't help you much in that matter. But I could install
  several bb applications (bb-pager, ...)
 
  However, I currently use mdk 7.1 hydrogen, and the menu configuration
  provided with it really fits me!
  But I'm still wondering how to configure it!
  If you (or anyone else) can help me, I'd be really glad.
 
  TIA
  Flupke
 
  Paul wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   I am toying about a bit with Blackbox.
   Some things puzzle me, though. Is there someone here that is a bit more
   proficient with blackbox? Thought I'd ask first, before throwing around
 a
   bunch of questions...
  
   Paul
  
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[newbie] Gnome problem

2000-05-31 Thread root

Just installed Mandrake 7, the second time I booted the machine the
Gnome taskbar is missing. Does anyone
know how to fix this ?

cheers,

Scott.




Re: [newbie] Modem

2000-05-31 Thread John Arkoulis

Give us the model of the modem.
Most propably is a Win-modem

On Tue, 30 May 2000, also sprach:
 My linux won't see my modem. I've tried linking it to no avail.
 
 It's a USR voice/data modem from a year ago.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks.
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[newbie] Fwd: Guess where I found the Linux Joystick Drivers

2000-05-31 Thread John Arkoulis



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Subject: Guess where I found the Linux Joystick Drivers
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:34:21 -0700
From: "dpat" [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I can only find it on Microsofts website!!!

No success in finding it on any of the Linux websites!!

Go figure!

I could really have a lot of fun posting this fact in the Linux newsgroups


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I can only findit on Microsofts 
website!!!

No success in finding it on any of the Linux 
websites!!

Go figure!

I could really have a lot of fun posting this fact 
in the Linux newsgroups


[newbie] Kvoice

2000-05-31 Thread John Arkoulis

I am trying to set up Kvoice. There is no way I can record a message for the
answering system.
Has anybody set it up??
Any solutions??

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Re: [newbie] Why MPEGs are so slow??

2000-05-31 Thread flupke

Aktion isn't good at decoding mpg. I only use it to read .mov files.
You should try the smpeg or mtv packages.

HTH
Flupke


Nickolay Belostotsky wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 I tried to use aKtion to play my MPEG files, and the speed of playback is
 ~1fps. What is the reason of it?
 
 System: PIII-500, ASUS V3800TVR nVidia based card, XFree 3.3.6
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
   -- Koly




[newbie] Administration Question

2000-05-31 Thread John Rye

I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom'

I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text).

Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames.

How should I go about this?
'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have 
access to 'fred's files.

I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar
in which these two users can drop the exchange files.

As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group
the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her
directory. That is not an option in this case..

Suggestions are most welcome.

Cheers.

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[newbie] Install DOS 6.2 Windows98 and Linux-Mandrake 7.0 in same HD

2000-05-31 Thread Pedro Fonseca

Hello!

The installation manuals do not say anything about the "cylinder 1024"
problem. This is the /boot or /root have to be installed within the
1024th cylinder.
I have Windows 98, DOS 6.2 and Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Air Version in my
13GB Quantum Fireball HD.
First time I tried to install Mandrake Linux in an empty partition
(after 9GB Windows partition), I got an error message in LILO
installation (because /root is after cylinder 1024) and then I was not
able to boot from HD (Linux and Windows).
Fortunately there is a "magic" fdisk (DOS) command:
fdisk /mbr
that restores the MBR, and then I can boot Windows again from HD. Linux
only boot from the diskete.

I decided then start from the begining, because I do not have Partition
Magic.
I was not shure if I can use the DiskDrake to make a partition resize
without destroying any data (in DOS partition). Do you know that?

What I did:
1. I made one DOS FAT16 400MB partition (with dos fdisk) for DOS 6.2
and I installed it there (dos C: disk)
2. I made one DOS FAT16 16MB partition (with dos fdisk), without
installing anything there (dos D: disk)
3. I made one FAT32 9GB partition (dos E: disk) (with W98 fdisk), and I
installed Windows98 there.
6. I made one FAT16 1.5GB partition to put data to be shared by DOS,
Linux and Windows98

After that I have deleted partion D: and make a new one smaller (6MB. I
had to make a new one because Windows98 did not boot as disk D: (it has
to be as disk E: as installed)

The remaining space was for Linux:
7. I made 128MB swap partion
8. I made about 1.5GB for /root

Then a got the 1024 error message, and  created a partition after the
dos D: partition, with 8MB for /boot (within cylinder 1024)

Summary of partitions:
hda1: DOS C: (400MB) - DOS 6.2
hda5: DOS D: (6MB)- Without data
hda9: Linux /boot (8MB)
hda6: DOS E: (9GB) - Windows 98
hda7: Linux /swap (128MB)
hda8: Linux /root (1.5GB)


With above configuration LILO was automatically installed without any
questions or errors, and I can boot from HD to Linux or Windows98. If I
want to boot to DOS 6.2, I make F8, after boot Windows98 and I choose
"old DOS option".

Everything seems to work fine, but I am shure that should be a simpler
solution for that.
There is on error in /hda5 because Linux can not mount it. I think that
is a too small partition.

Is there any suggestion to make this job simpler?

Why Linux-Mandrake installation do not ask if we want to install LILO?
It is not good see our MBR destroyed by a faulty LILO installation.

If I am shure that DiskDrake can make a partion resise without
destroying dos data, I would make the following partition:
DOS c: (400MB)
Linux /boot (10MB or a little more). Suggestions for the optimal size?
Windows 98 D: (9GB)
FAT16 E: (1.5GB)
Linux /swap (128MB)
Linux /root (remaining)

I read a lot of installation instructions. None of them shown a map
like this: the safest way to make the p+artitions to install linux.
Why?

Please make your suggestions, but specific suggestions, not general. As
newbie is very difficult to me understand some details and make my own
choices.

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Re: [newbie]

2000-05-31 Thread pH0-tone

Well, Windows is unprefferable for me just because it's so unstable and not
so powerful. But I'd say Windows 2000 with it's file system makes me glad.
It's very powerful, but still resourse-hungry that makes me not glad. And
W2000 supports DOS badly... + there are not so much drivers and programs for
W2000 and YET LESS drivers for Linux... The most of my hardware is not
supported by Mandrake. May be FreeBSD should support it?
- Original Message -
From: Andrew Scotchmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie]


 On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:

  Since linux is about 10 times more powerful than microshaft how can you
 expect to un-pack the box and be an expertthere are literally
hundreds of
 books out there and a ton of helpful people here, now all you have to do
is
 become a learned user, read, learn, try, re-install ;) when you mess up
and
 start over.

 Nice comments Jim and thats the only way to learn.  I beleave that in the
 original message to this thread it was said to make linux as user friendly
as it
 possibly can be.

 Though I would like some things to be made easier, most of which have been
 mentioned in the Discussion thread,  I do feel that to make it too user
 friendly would rob Linux of it's unique position and it's marvels.  Heck,
if it
 becomes to user friendly with everything done without a thourght being
required
 from the user, why don't we just all jack it in and reinstall Windoze

 What do you all think out there???
  --
 Andrew
 Blackburn
 England

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Re: [newbie] Removing a windows partition

2000-05-31 Thread flupke

I think that it is safer not to extend a partition. I think you'd better
change your FAT into a linux (ext2) partition. This is easily done with
fdisk (or cfdisk. This one is a bit more user-friendly).

Once this is done, you can make an ext2 filesystem on it (with mke2fs)
and mount it somewhere in your system. IE : If you need place for
personnal files, you could mount it in your /home directory or something
like that.
If you don't know how to proceed to transfer your /home (or any other
part of your linux filesystem) to your new partition, the
Harddisk-upgrade-HOWTO (or mini-HOWTO. I can't remember) should give you
some good hints. If you are still lost with it, scream for help on the
list. (Or browse the list archive. This has already been answered)

HTH
Flupke

Eric Mings wrote:
 
 I originally setup my disk with both linux and a windows partition. I am
 no longer using windows on this machine and would like to remove the
 partition without risk of damaging my linux data. Ideally I would like to
 be able to expand one of my linux partitions to take advantage of the new
 space, however making a new linux partition would be an acceptable option
 as well. How can I do this without the possibility of damaging my linux
 system data? Thanks.
 
 Regards,
 
 Eric Mings Ph.D.




[newbie] LILO boot time

2000-05-31 Thread Andrew Scotchmer

Hi again,

I have got Linux installed on hda1 after ditching Windoze a couple of months
ago now.  When at the lilo prompt I have to wait 5 seconds for it to boot the
kernal or press enter for instant booting.

I know it is petty but how can I configure lilo to boot Linux instantly with
out the prompt.  I have looked into  /etc/lilo.config  and messed about
with the timeout option but it has no effect.  Therefore the waiting time
command must be within another file but where?

As I said it is a petty issue but it has become a bit of an obsession with me
now.  
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England

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Re: [newbie] Setting lilo to dual boot 98 from seperate drive???

2000-05-31 Thread flupke

Aaron wrote:
 
 Linux is on the primary disc (hda) and win98 is on the secondary disc (hdb).
 I tried adding it to lilo but when I choose win98 at boot it doesn't do
 anything.  Do I have to do anything to win98 to make this work?  What do I
 need to do?
 Thanks,
 Aaron

Could you post your /etc/lilo.conf file and describe what exactly
happens when you try to boot zinblows? (or maybe you will be able to
solve the problem by yourself if you read the man lilo.conf)

Flupke




Re: [newbie] Why MPEGs are so slow??

2000-05-31 Thread Andrew Scotchmer

On Tue, 30 May 2000, you wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I tried to use aKtion to play my MPEG files, and the speed of playback is
 ~1fps. What is the reason of it?
 
 System: PIII-500, ASUS V3800TVR nVidia based card, XFree 3.3.6
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
   -- Koly

 Sorry no suggestions but when I use aKtion to play Mp3's the speed is fiine
though the sound is very wobbly.  Cue Handels "Water Music" I think 8^)
 -- 
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England

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Re: [newbie] high security server and ftp and telnet

2000-05-31 Thread flupke

rharvey wrote:
 
 I setup a linux box with the server choice and high security.  I finally
 found the place to turn on the web service. http web services are running
 now. The ftp seems to be installed. all the info I have found says its all
 set up but I can't ftp into the server. I need ftp to upload my web pages.
 I also want telnet. It does not work either.  i can ping the server. I can
 go from the server to other computers thru telnet.
First, make sure you have the telnet-server package installed.
Then, enable the telnet and ftp servers in /etc/inetd.conf. I think you
just should uncomment the lines corresponding to the servers.
After you have done that, I think that it should be ok.

But if you care about security, I think you'd better forget about telnet
and install ssh instead.

 
 Is it the security level?
maybe the servers are not enabled with the high-security level (this
would not be surprizing. And even rather normal. telnet is NOT
secure!!!)

 do i need to re-install and set the secutity level down?
Even if you decide to change the security level, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO
REINSTALL LINUX! In fact, in theory, YOU NEVER HAVE TO REINSTALL
LINUX Everybody should be aware of that. I see too often people
saying "It didn't work so I reinstalled". Sorry, but that is NOT the
solution. We are here in a unix environnement. Forget about the BAD BAD
EVIL habits you had with Mikr0$oft.
(sorry for the shouting, but I really want to focus everybody's
attention about this point)

The security levels are handled by the msec package. Read the files in
/usr/doc/msecversion/ for details about security levels and how to
change it.

 How do I get access to the services.. ( I do not have the gui auto loading.
 i can startx but i can't get any of the gui's to run..kde...gnome..ect...)
To access a graphical login from a root command prompt, type "init 5".
To automatically load the GUI login screen at startup, change the line
id:3:initdefault:
to
id:5:initdefault:
in your /etc/inittab file.

No window manager comes when you start X because (I think that) they are
not installed in the server installation. Install them from the mdk CD.

 so I guess any info sent on how to fix this will have to be no-gui commands.
Not anymore... :-)

 
 thanks in advance
 Robert

HTH
Flupke




Re: [newbie] Removing a windows partition

2000-05-31 Thread Charles A Edwards

Denis
   Would not how and from where Eric boots his Linux partition make a
difference in the procedures he should use to delete his Windows partition
and re-allocate his Linux patitions? ( I don't know so I am also asking.)

   Charles 5/31/2000   8:40am



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From: "Denis HAVLIK" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Removing a windows partition


 :~I originally setup my disk with both linux and a windows partition. I
am
 :~no longer using windows on this machine and would like to remove the
 :~partition without risk of damaging my linux data. Ideally I would like
to
 :~be able to expand one of my linux partitions to take advantage of the
new
 :~space, however making a new linux partition would be an acceptable
option
 :~as well. How can I do this without the possibility of damaging my linux
 :~system data? Thanks.

 1) change partition type, format it (diskdrake)
 2) bind it into system as /mnt/new (or such)
 3) move the data from some existing partition there (/home/ sounds fine,
 but your mileage may vary)
 4) remove old /home, edit /etc/fstab so that your new partition gets
 mounted on right place and either reboot or just remount the partition to
 where it should be.

 voila

 Denis

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[newbie] Test

2000-05-31 Thread laurent . duperval

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Re: [newbie] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION - Way Better Documentation

2000-05-31 Thread Ray Winbush



I think there has to be better documentation on the 
file structure of Linux. I come from a Windows AND MacOS background and 
both of these systems are fairly intuitive in terms of how to save files to 
certain drives. Linux documentation isn't as intuitive.

RayWinbush


Re: McMillan monopoly [was [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.]

2000-05-31 Thread Denis HAVLIK

:~Hi Denis
:~ I thank heavens that I live in Finland and still have a choice from whom I
:~can buy Mandrake-Linux! 

I am not so sure. I think McMillan is not allowed to mess around in Europa
anymore .-) But it will be basically the same package now AFAIK. 

cheers
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RE: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.

2000-05-31 Thread Bill . Gardner

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 8:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] ATTN: ALAN S.
 
 
 :~It will still be confusing to many folks if, like they did
 :~with 6.1, MacMillan decides to market 7.1 as 7.5!!  Their
 :~excuse was that more people will purchase an upgrade sequenced
 :~by .5 than would have bought it sequenced if sequenced by only
 :~.1.  Sheesh!!
 
 AFAIK this is not allowed by our new contract. And there will 
 be only one
 pack in english-speaking countries - from McMillan.
 


...and this was a decision that was met with ease by both parties.  

I sense some definite hostility towards Macmillan on this thread.  I'd like to 
publicly say it is a very successful and positive partnership between the two 
companies. 

Thanks,
BG