RE: [newbie] Website
What about mySQL? Seems pretty popular. There's also Adabas(sp?), postgres, etc. For a database with CGI, you can have a look at MetaKit, http://www.equi4.com/metakit/ Unless you need something very complex, one of the most versatile ways of handling simple database functions is with some simple scripts and standard UNIX tools to search, format and output data records. A lot can be done with cat database | grep search_string format_script Add a dash of TCL/TK and you can really get cooking on the I/O side of things. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] how to install pronto email
Alan, There was another thread on these message boards that outline that the best way to install Pronto was to go get the installer and let it go and get anything it needs and it installs it on your computer for you. Sounds pretty slick to me. Check the site again, must be a place to get the installer too. I know there wa an rpm because I saw it on the download page. Bambi Alan Carpenter wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I'm pretty new at this =). I finally untared pronto in a directory, and ran the prontoinstaller.pl. It started to install, and it quit and said you need to be root to install this program. I was like ok no big deal. So I logged in as root and tried it again, only this time I got some error about "bash command: file or directory not found". It's like it just wouldn't see the file?? Does this have something to do with the bash shell??? Please help if you can =). Also whats RPM??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fran Parker Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Newbie@linux-mandrake. com Subject: Re: [newbie] how to install pronto email Hi, Pronto had an RPM on the site...if you are not comfortable with tarballs yet, you might want to go back and get the RPM. Bambi Alan Carpenter wrote: I am a newbie =), and need help installing pronto email. I downloaded the tarball, but that's as far as I have gotten. A step by step would really help me, and other people in this list I hope. Thanks so much. Alan Carpenter PC Specialist Department of Computer Services Virginia Wesleyan College 1584 Wesleyan Dr. Norfolk Va. 23502 Office (757)455.3267 Cell (757)449.0381
Re: [newbie] Silly question - I don't know how to use man
Ed, At the time I first asnwered your message I was sitting at my Workstation at work. I hate to admit it, but it's not a Linux workstation. At this momemt I'm sitting at my PC at home. So, I pop open a terminal window and type in the command man procmail and guess what pops up? Yes, you guessed it. The man page for procmail. What version of Linux Mandrake are you running? Not that I really think it's going to matter cause I get the feeling that it would still be in there if the program is on your system. I think that is the important part. Making sure it's installed on your system. You can know for sure by issuing the command whereis procmail that will tell you where it is if it exists on your system. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, mendes wrote: Hello Thanks a lot. I did that several times but it always ended up on root@armagedon:/usr/lib$ man procmail No manual entry for procmail Any suggestions? Regards Ed mendes wrote: Hello I know that this is a rather silly question but I definitely need help. For instance, I installed procmail on my system. The manuals were placed at /usr/man/man1 and /usr/man/man5 as *.1.gz or *1.bz2 and *.5.gz or *.5.bz2. When I type man procmail the sys returns no manual page for it. What am I missing here? Thanks a lot. Ed Ed, Open a terminal window and type: man procmail That will open the man page for procmail is a "vi" editor window and you can use the down arrow key to scroll with. Mark -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
RE: [newbie] Silly question - I don't know how to use man
I did that several times but it always ended up on root@armagedon:/usr/lib$ man procmail No manual entry for procmail Any suggestions? As I recall, your msg indicated that your man pages were in zip format. Maybe you'd have better luck if you use gunzip on them. Cheers --- Larry
[newbie] Mail / Hostname problem
I am on a Mandrake 7.0 machine trying to set up a mail transport. I tried postfix and sendmail and now trying smail. The goal is just to move mail retrieved via fetchmail through the system to the Unix mailbox /var/spool/mail. The user does not want to use Netscape for mail. The error message in the smail logfile is below. The hostname is set in all of the /etc files. The following is /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 cyrix.bigMa.net 0 # 0 0.0.0.0 netdomain.name.com 1 # 1 I am brand new to Mandrake but have used SuSE before and Debian briefly. Can anyone suggest what I may be doing wrong? Phil 06/28/2000 19:18:27: pid 409: SIGTERM received, shutting down daemon. 06/28/2000 19:19:39: pid 407: smail daemon started 06/28/2000 19:20:56: pid 407: SIGTERM received, shutting down daemon. 06/28/2000 19:22:06: pid 411: smail daemon started 06/28/2000 19:24:18: remote EHLO: invalid operand: 'localhost': from (cyrix.bigMa.net) source [127.0.0.1]: hostname must contain a '.'. 06/28/2000 19:24:18: remote HELO: invalid operand: 'localhost': from (cyrix.bigMa.net) source [127.0.0.1]: hostname must contain a '.'. 06/28/2000 19:24:30: remote EHLO: invalid operand: 'localhost': from (cyrix.bigMa.net) source [127.0.0.1]: hostname must contain a '.'. 06/28/2000 19:24:31: remote HELO: invalid operand: 'localhost': from (cyrix.bigMa.net) source [127.0.0.1]: hostname must contain a '.'.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 and Adaptec SCSI Cards
(Snip) Now if I could only get my cd-burner to work. . .but THATS for another posting. -- Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail/ Hey there Describe your problem a little closer - my Plextor works realy fine on an Adaptec 2940 AU Mogens Jæger
[newbie] KDE/Gnome Interoperatibility petition
Dear friends: This is to inform you of an ongoing petition to encourage interoperatiblity between KDE and Gnome: The article: KDE/Gnome Interoperatibility: http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/main/0,10228,2595903,00.html The Petition http://rivyn.derkarl.org/news/html/thelist.php3 Yours, -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] Silly question - I don't know how to use man
Have you tried re-installing the man RPM onto your system yet? that might be an option. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, mendes wrote: Hello Unfortunately man procmail won't work. I have just found out that man can't find a thing. The /etc/.man.config is empty. Could someone tell me what to expect on /etc/.man.config? Thanks a lot. Eduardo Just type "man procmail". mendes wrote: Hello I know that this is a rather silly question but I definitely need help. For instance, I installed procmail on my system. The manuals were placed at /usr/man/man1 and /usr/man/man5 as *.1.gz or *1.bz2 and *.5.gz or *.5.bz2. When I type man procmail the sys returns no manual page for it. What am I missing here? Thanks a lot. Ed -- Joe St.Clair - KSI Machine Engineering
[newbie] X-server crash
Here is a problem I have had a couple of times. I spend time on the net one night and everything is ok, I boot up the next day and my X-server won't boot, the screen just flashes off and on black to blue. I can't get in to server because I had it set to Boot to X-server. So both times I have had to re-install Linux as a new install, and since I haven't figured out how to back up data, I lose stuff. Nothing real important, but a pain to get back on the system. First, why do I lose the x-server (Window in KDE)? How do I get back the server without re-install, I have tried to do just an update but that fails. This is an annoying problem cause I thought linux was more stable than this, or more likely it's something I am doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dennis
[newbie] SCSI Zip dirve
Hey I was just wondering has anyone ever set up a SCSI Zip dirve? I was wondering how to go about it and if it would be really much faster then a P port setup
Re: [newbie] VirtualHost
Let me take a look at your Vhosts.conf and httpd.conf and I'll help you get it going. Seve -Original Message- From: Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] VirtualHost There are some excellent examples on: http://www.apache.org Look in documentation under the virual hosts. -Chris On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Mark wrote: I'm looking for a sample/example for my httpd.conf file for virtual hosts. I messed one up, and it stopped my whole website from opertating 'till I commented it out! Oops. I'm setting it up so my friends can have there website be at theirname.mydomain.com and all their files be located in /home/theirname/www Can anyone help me out? Thanks Mark
[newbie] No go on notebook
Ok I'm defnately a newbie to Linux trying to install Mandrake 7.1. After full install it won't get past initilisation and dies just before xwindows starts. Message is "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 07:07 ??? I fear it may be my video card? as I'm using a sony laptop with a nice TFT screen, which of course was not in the setup. Is there a way to get "most" laptop screens supported? Any help'd be great Bruce Christopher Molnar wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Mark wrote: I have a few questions, was wondering if anyone could help? W only works as root. I want all users to see who is on. They can do this using Finger, but I'd rather have W work as I'm so used to it. It displays the header for W, but no username or user info. I tried changing the permissions on the utmp file, but to no avail. what about "w" not "W" ? I just checked and it works here (mdk 7.1 developer install). Finger Command does not retain info once a user logs out. So when I finger user, it says they have never logged in. I'm not sure on this one either. I will open a bug on this one. Thanks. And finally, YTalk, it runs, but will not contact the other user that I'm trying to talk to. How do I get this to run? Is this a process that has to be started? I have never used... sorry. Hope that helps a little. -Chris
[newbie] Changing IRQ on NIC
How do you change the IRQ setting on a module dependent NIC? I tried "options driver irq=N, in /etc/conf.modules but this didn't work. I am trying to get two NICs to work, but after reading the dmesg, it says both IRQs are 0.
Re: [newbie] [Newbie]Wheel Mouse is working but need more help
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Adriaan Barel wrote: The solution would then be to create a file like that. Open an editor (no name given, there are many), write imwheel -k on the first line, and save it as ~/.xinitrc Voila. That should do it. Paul Hi Every One, I just got my wheel working on my PS/2 mouse by following instructions at www.mandrakeuser.org/xwin/xmouse.html and in addition editing out two lines that enable 3 button emulation. The file edited was /etc/X11/XF86Config. I am running Version 7.02 of Linux Mandrake. My problem is that after editing the file I'm told to "Restart X, run imwheel -k and everything should work fine now" Well it does but then I'm told to "add this command to your `.xinitrc` or `.xsessionrc` to have it executed automatically on every X startup." What are they talking about; I can't find any files in those names and when I do a file search I get "file found" "/" for both of them. What do I do now. Many Thanks Adriaan -- When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming like the passengers in his car. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
[newbie] Boy, am I feeling dumb ...
Howdies. Got a small problem since installing Mandrake 6.1 - my PPP sessions freeze me out of launching *ANY* new programs! (D'Oh!) I can continue to run one, or several: already opened programs - BUT ! Can't run anything in addition. Just stops. No error messages, just no action. Close the ppp, and all programs are available for launch. It's GOTTA be something simple, and stupid ... that I've done, or maybe: Not done. Netscape works fine, both for Web and e-mail. So does KVirc.I run over a 56K dial-up, on an old Pentium 166, 32 M of ram. Another annoyance: somehow, I've got Netscape wanting, trying, DEMANDING to open rpm downloads (UNLESS I can shift-click to save), as if it were a text file for display. (Not very useful, really.) How to fix? I'd welcome enlightenment. :) Please! :) :) TIA
[newbie] acrobat rpm
Hello folks Can anyone point out an url for adobe acrobat rpm which works with Mandrake Air without segmentation errors while changing pages? Rgds __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
Re: [newbie] installing an Intel i810 video card under Mandrake 7.0
Hi, Try the intel site. I got my driver from there and it was working under M7.0 God look, Claudio H. --- A ANELA [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: I am running a Dell L400c computer as a test pc, it has an onboard video card using a Intel i810 chipset. I went to the Dell site, they have a RedHat 6.2 driver. This doesn't work on Mandrake 7.0, does anybody know how to get it to work? Thanks, Drew Anela Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com O YAHOO! GEOCITIES CHEGOU AO BRASIL! Crie sua home page com tudo em português - http://br.geocities.com
RE: [newbie] promise controller
Yes larry, mine finally worked with no problems!! I'm really happy about it! I have 2 drives on my promise, and my CD-R and CD Rom on mainboard. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Hignight Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:31 AM To: Mandrake Mail List Subject: [newbie] promise controller Hello, I was wondering if the Promise ata66 controllers are recognized by the Mandrake 7.1 installation. Anyone had any success? Larry
Re: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux
On the face of it, the Federation's economic model tells a lot about TrekVille; there is no money, all things are provided at no charge, everyone simply does their job; sounds as believable as "Beam me up, Scotty". 6/28/00 7:49:16 PM, "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "F. E. Schaper" wrote: Tell the Star Trek freaks to move out of the basement, take off the ears, stop trying to learn to speak Klingon and join the rest of us in a nice place called: "Reality" Hmm, "Trekkies" are usually so leading edge that this surprises me somewhat... Better yet, don'twe don't need those clowns infecting the gene pool. What I'm really wondering is, maybe the original poster got a reply from the Klingon section? smile PS How can you tell when a Klingon has been using your computer? From the whiteout all over the screen! grin Windoze is a virus with a user interface. This message was created with Linux Hehehehee! Try the Opera web browser and e-mail at http://www.opera.com
[newbie] 7.1 installation
I have installed Mandrake 7.0 on several occaisions, each time having odd problems - network not configured, mouse not found, X config failures etc. This time, my newly acquired GPL 7.1 has sprung a double-whammy : (1) hung on X config in the installation - a reboot started the system ok, leading to (2) kernel error msgs - no supermount support (1) seems due to a corruption of the card database, since running xf86config I get errors relating to several Trident cards not being found in the d/b. (2) is rather odder - I presume some of the mods haven't been installed. I presume I'll have to reinstall, since on this evidence there's no telling what else is not installed correctly. Next time it will be a text-mode install, if possible. Firtstly, is it just me, or is there a history of installation oddities with Mandrake 7.x ? Secondly, how do I do a text-mode installation ? For the record, I'm not a Linux newbie (been running SuSE on my main pc for 3 years) just a mandrake almost-newbie. H/W spec - P120, 68Mb, 4.3Gb hdd, 52x EIDE CD-ROM, S3ViRGE/2Mb, serial mouse, Yamaha Sa-X soundcard, 3C509 Combo NIC. The same h/w experiences no trouble installing SuSE 6.4, RH 6.1, Corel, Storm FreeBSD 3.3 4.0. TIA, Paul. ps sorry about the clag below - I'm behind a corporate firewall and using Exchange :( "WorldSecure Server lombard.co.uk" made the following annotations on 06/29/00 10:53:04 -- The opinions expressed within this email represent those of the individual and not necessarily those of Lombard North Central. The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor copied in any way. If received in error, please advise the sender, then delete from your system. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, Lombard North Central PLC are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. Lombard North Central PLC Registered in England No 337004 Registered Office 3 Princess Way Redhill Surrey RH1 1NP A Member of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group ==
RE: [newbie] adaptec scsi aha152x
Hello, I have an adaptec aha152b. It work fine with these settings aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 (IO base, DMA, SCSI ID, parity) Try modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 [set the values according to your system] Then, if it works, enter the line in rc.local OR Reinstall (update) and enter the settings when asked. I hope this will be helpful. Didier -Message d'origine- De : William Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoye : jeudi 29 juin 2000 01:46 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [newbie] adaptec scsi aha152x My SCSI card was not recognized on the install of Man 7.0 It works on Win98 and on Caldera 2.2 It's adaptec AHA-150x/1510/152x/AIC-6x60 I tried entering the io=0x140 irq=10 after the auto recognition failed, but no luck there. Also, the install book doesnt seem to indicate how to set up SCSI later if I do complete the rest of the installation. Suggestions appreciated. Bill __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux
Fritz, I liked your commentary. You speak well, but I think you're all wet. For reasons known only to yourself and maybe a few close friends you've pigeon holed literally hundreds of thousands of people whom you don't even know into a group of very small minded bunch of misfits that clearly don't have a life of their own and are forced to live vicariously through the fantacies of TV writers. Nothing could be further from the truth. While I'm not offended by your words, for I find your well spoken prose amusing, I know many would be. I have no doubt that what you've said about Shatner is nothing but the truth, saying that the fans are mindless morons was not very nice. It is your opinion, however misguided and tainted it may be and you're entitled to it. I just wanted you to know that myself and many others that I know have been Star Trek fans since I can remember. Although I've never gone to the place of wearing the ears or anything so drastically strange, I do still enjoy the original series and the new programs that it spawned in the decades since. And IMHO I'm NOT a dribbling moron who doesn't have the education of a rat, nor am I a blithering idiot with the IQ of a peice of lunch meat! My words...not yours. I'm merely paraphrasing your sentiments. I happen to be an educated professional in a field that requires an IQ much higher than that of anything Oscar Myer could produce. Sadly, for whatever reasons, you've managed to mean-spiritedly stereotype a vast segmant of american society into a place where YOU are comfortable that they are not a threat to you. THAT, my friend is the hallmark of a small mind. Predjudice is a symptom of fear and ignorance and eventually leaves a person alone and hopeless. America is a great place dispite her troubles. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, F. E. Schaper wrote: Ed, Yes that was an older skit on SNL in which William "Ego" Shatner was speaking to a convention and used such pearls of wisdom as: "You...(pointing at a Spock-esque pointy eared John Lovitz) have you ever kissed a girl? Move out of your parents basement and get a life!" "It's just a show...I only did it because I needed the money..I wasn't even the first choice for Kirk" (the first Kirk was Jeffrey Hunter, who met with some very bad luck shortly after giving up the role that he felt was "unchallenging and insulting" don't ask how I know this I don't like the show...quite the opposite in fact) He was then reminded by the event organizer (played by the great Phil Hartman) that he would no longer be wealthy without the support of these people because he is in fact the worst actor (and singer and pitchman) on the face of the planet (and quite possibly of all time save for maybe Pauly Shore or Carrottop) and he had better be nice to them if he did not want to end up in a squat house...(which is what I think happened to Steve Gutenberg and Ralph Macchio) At which point he claimed he was merely re-enacting some older episode in which he was playing the "Evil Kirk" and was not himself. Of course the "fans" bought it (what a shock!) It was quite funnybut then in my opinion anything that shows how lame that insipid show is and how brainless the hardcore fans of that show are is outstanding comedy, as well as social commentary. America is a sad place to be I am afraid. Ok Star Trek fans...let me have it. Fritz - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux wasn't it the clown who played Kirk (I forget his real name just now ) who said at a stra trek convention "GET A LIFE" F. E. Schaper wrote: Tell the Star Trek freaks to move out of the basement, take off the ears, stop trying to learn to speak Klingon and join the rest of us in a nice place called: "Reality" Better yet, don'twe don't need those clowns infecting the gene pool. - Original Message - From: John Arkoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: VanLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 3:39 AM Subject: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux A couple of days ago I was surfing on the net and went on a Star Trek site. I liked what they had and out of good faith I sent them the message lets port it to Linux I thought that the Linux community had an attitude but I was wrong. This is the answer that I received. Now what would you answer to them??/ I really do not like people that are that sarcastic especially to someone that they do not know. I would appreciate any ideas!!! On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, also sprach: - Original Message - From: Richard Sliwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Arkoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26,
Re: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux
David, Your 2 cents are right on the money! Thank you. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, David Lawrence wrote: The clown is William Shatner, the 'convention' that he said "get a life" in was a Saturday Night Live skit with Chris Farley. I don't mean to speak out of turn here but it really seems that a hostile slant has been placed on a bunch of folks who were disinterested in the 'Linux Lifestyle'. The fact that they can compile something for a Windows platform somewhat indicates that they can do the same for a unix platform; they just don't want to. Just my 2 cents, David Lawrence On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ed Tharp wrote: wasn't it the clown who played Kirk (I forget his real name just now ) who said at a stra trek convention "GET A LIFE" F. E. Schaper wrote: Tell the Star Trek freaks to move out of the basement, take off the ears, stop trying to learn to speak Klingon and join the rest of us in a nice place called: "Reality" Better yet, don'twe don't need those clowns infecting the gene pool. - Original Message - From: John Arkoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: VanLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 3:39 AM Subject: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux A couple of days ago I was surfing on the net and went on a Star Trek site. I liked what they had and out of good faith I sent them the message lets port it to Linux I thought that the Linux community had an attitude but I was wrong. This is the answer that I received. Now what would you answer to them??/ I really do not like people that are that sarcastic especially to someone that they do not know. I would appreciate any ideas!!! On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, also sprach: - Original Message - From: Richard Sliwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Arkoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: Linux At 13:31 26/06/00 -0700, you wrote: Come on guys. Lets port these great stuff over to Linux. To which particular flavour of Linux desktop environment do you want us to port? And just what "stuff" is it you want us to port? The only material on our site which isn't directly relevant to Linux are the startup screens and desktop themes which are irrelevant anyway. Anyway, why should *we* port it? We're part of the Windows online community (despite the fact that our server is actually running on Linux - Windoze just isn't up to it!), why can't the online Linux community do something about it? After all, linux is meant to be the single largest collaborative project going, isn't it? And isn't Linux all about tinkering away oneself - why would any Linux user want to rely on all our pre-compiled suff? -- Richard Sliwa Star Trek in Sound and Vision http://www.STinSV.com Boldly Going Where No Web Site Has Ever Gone Before -- Windoze is a virus with a user interface. This message was created with Linux
Re: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux
Klingons are cool! -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote: "F. E. Schaper" wrote: Tell the Star Trek freaks to move out of the basement, take off the ears, stop trying to learn to speak Klingon and join the rest of us in a nice place called: "Reality" Hmm, "Trekkies" are usually so leading edge that this surprises me somewhat... Better yet, don'twe don't need those clowns infecting the gene pool. What I'm really wondering is, maybe the original poster got a reply from the Klingon section? smile PS How can you tell when a Klingon has been using your computer? From the whiteout all over the screen! grin Windoze is a virus with a user interface. This message was created with Linux Hehehehee!
[newbie] pon/poff
Hello, First time Mandrake user (Helium), but have been running Debian for 2 years already. Two questions: 1) is there no curses-based package manager like Debian's dselect included with Mandrake? 2) the package ppp is installed, but pppconfig not. Anything additional I need to install for pon/poff use? Thanks for the help. --hans
Re: [Re: [newbie] adaptec scsi]
Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How come then it recognizes my 1542 adapter, but I can't access the device? heavens! it even loads the drivers or whatever it's doing when it's booting and lists it amoung the other devices, but I can't use the tape drive. When I attempt to mount the device it tells me there isn't a tape in the drive. -- Mark === Hate to state the obvious but..., Have you made an entry for the tape device in /etc/fstab? Mike "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me." --Winston Churchill Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Silly question - I don't know how to use man
Below is the contents of my /etc/man.config file Not on my system this file is "man.config" not ".man.config". mendes wrote: Hello Unfortunately man procmail won't work. I have just found out that man can't find a thing. The /etc/.man.config is empty. Could someone tell me what to expect on /etc/.man.config? Thanks a lot. # # Generated automatically from man.conf.in by the # configure script. # # man.conf # # This file is read by man to configure the default manpath (also used # when MANPATH contains an empty substring), to find out where the cat # pages corresponding to given man pages should be stored, # and to map each PATH element to a manpath element. # It may also record the pathname of the man binary. [This is unused.] # The format is: # # MANBIN pathname # MANPATH manpath_element [corresponding_catdir] # MANPATH_MAP path_element manpath_element # # If no catdir is given, it is assumed to be equal to the mandir # (so that this dir has both man1 etc. and cat1 etc. subdirs). # This is the traditional Unix setup. # Certain versions of the FSSTND recommend putting formatted versions # of /usr/.../man/manx/page.x into /var/catman/.../catx/page.x. # The keyword FSSTND will cause this behaviour. # Certain versions of the FHS recommend putting formatted versions of # /usr/.../share/man/[locale/]manx/page.x into # /var/cache/man/.../[locale/]catx/page.x. # The keyword FHS will cause this behaviour (and overrides FSSTND). # Explicitly given catdirs override. # FSSTND # FHS # # This file is also read by man in order to find how to call nroff, less, etc., # and to determine the correspondence between extensions and decompressors. # # MANBIN /usr/local/bin/man # # Every automatically generated MANPATH includes these fields # MANPATH /usr/man MANPATH /usr/local/man MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man MANPATH /usr/lib/perl5/man # # Set up PATH to MANPATH mapping # # (these mappings are superfluous when the right hand side is # in the mandatory manpath already, but will keep man from statting # lots of other nearby files and directories) # MANPATH_MAP /bin /usr/man MANPATH_MAP /sbin /usr/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin /usr/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/sbin /usr/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/X11 /usr/X11R6/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/mh /usr/man # # Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when # NROFF is defined as "groff -Tascii" or "groff -Tlatin1"; # not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output. # TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tascii -mandoc EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps NEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tascii TBL /usr/bin/gtbl # COL /usr/bin/col REFER /usr/bin/grefer PIC /usr/bin/gpic VGRIND GRAP PAGER /usr/bin/less -is CAT /bin/cat # # The command "man -a xyzzy" will show all man pages for xyzzy. # When CMP is defined man will try to avoid showing the same # text twice. # CMP /usr/bin/cmp -s # # Compress cat pages # COMPRESS /bin/gzip COMPRESS_EXT .gz # # Default manual sections (and order) to search if -S is not specified # and the MANSECT environment variable is not set. # MANSECT 1:8:2:3:4:5:6:7:9:tcl:n:l:p:o # # Decompress with given decompressor when input file has given extension # The command given must act as a filter. # .gz /bin/gunzip -c .bz2 /usr/bin/bzip2 -c -d .z .Z /bin/zcat .F .Y
RE: [newbie] X-server crash
When the display falls back, try CTRL-ALT-F2 to switch to a free console. Sounds like something is playing with your permissions. To be on the safe side, once you have the machine back up running, back up /etc/Xfree86/XF86Config and your home dir - if it does go AWOL again you can over-write the config files wiht those copies get on with life until you track down what is hammering X. There aren't many instances where you have to reinstall Linux from scratch - at the outside, reinstall the X server rpm, the base X rpms and manually configure with xf86config. On Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:28 PM, Dennis Myers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Here is a problem I have had a couple of times. I spend time on the net one night and everything is ok, I boot up the next day and my X-server won't boot, the screen just flashes off and on black to blue. I can't get in to server because I had it set to Boot to X-server. So both times I have had to re-install Linux as a new install, and since I haven't figured out how to back up data, I lose stuff. Nothing real important, but a pain to get back on the system. First, why do I lose the x-server (Window in KDE)? How do I get back the server without re-install, I have tried to do just an update but that fails. This is an annoying problem cause I thought linux was more stable than this, or more likely it's something I am doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dennis "WorldSecure Server lombard.co.uk" made the following annotations on 06/29/00 13:12:31 -- The opinions expressed within this email represent those of the individual and not necessarily those of Lombard North Central. The contents of this Email may be privileged and are confidential. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor copied in any way. If received in error, please advise the sender, then delete from your system. Should you wish to use Email as a mode of communication, Lombard North Central PLC are unable to guarantee the security of Email content outside of our own computer systems. Lombard North Central PLC Registered in England No 337004 Registered Office 3 Princess Way Redhill Surrey RH1 1NP A Member of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group ==
Re: [newbie] X-server crash
Dennis, I think that you can hit ctrl-alt-backspace and it will exit the x-server (or is it esc instead of backspace)... anyway, then you could run the xconfigurator and see what settings you needed to change. Maybe this is incorrect, but I had a problem (not exactly the same) where I had the wrong video driver installed and had to get to a text prompt, did this, changed settings and was fine. I also think that it will show an error on boot potentially telling you what is wrong. As for fixing the problem, have you left it on to see if it happened during the night, as well? Maybe you could see what changed during the night that would cause it (the log)? just my two-cents... David Lawrence On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: Here is a problem I have had a couple of times. I spend time on the net one night and everything is ok, I boot up the next day and my X-server won't boot, the screen just flashes off and on black to blue. I can't get in to server because I had it set to Boot to X-server. So both times I have had to re-install Linux as a new install, and since I haven't figured out how to back up data, I lose stuff. Nothing real important, but a pain to get back on the system. First, why do I lose the x-server (Window in KDE)? How do I get back the server without re-install, I have tried to do just an update but that fails. This is an annoying problem cause I thought linux was more stable than this, or more likely it's something I am doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dennis
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Re: [newbie] X-server crash
If you automatically boot into X at startup and subsequently X fails, do not ssume that you have to do a reinstall. if you are using LILO then at the boot prompt just type in linux 3 and it will boot to a command prompt, from there you can login and as root run Xconfigurator to fix or just to reset (?) the Xserver. A lot of people that I've talked to don't boot into X for this very reason. Also if X is crahing a lot maybe you should play around with the settings in Xconfigurator until you get one that seems stable.
Re: [[newbie] X-server crash]
At the LILO prompt when first starting Linux type "linux 3" -- w/o quotes. That will take you to a text console, from there you can rerun your X setup with whatever config program your prefer. As to why you lose X config I have no idea. HTH Jaguar Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a problem I have had a couple of times. I spend time on the net one night and everything is ok, I boot up the next day and my X-server won't boot, the screen just flashes off and on black to blue. I can't get in to server because I had it set to Boot to X-server. So both times I have had to re-install Linux as a new install, and since I haven't figured out how to back up data, I lose stuff. Nothing real important, but a pain to get back on the system. First, why do I lose the x-server (Window in KDE)? How do I get back the server without re-install, I have tried to do just an update but that fails. This is an annoying problem cause I thought linux was more stable than this, or more likely it's something I am doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dennis The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 and Adaptec SCSI Cards
Well SCSI is faster for multidisk access. I have an IBM 7200 RPM UW drive with an Adaptec 2940UW controller. If I run speed tests it is not any faster than my fujitsu 5400RPM IDE drives But these tests are pretty much transfer speed tests not lets load the drive down with some requests then do my speed test. The SCSI would win there for sure. With good UDMA support in your OS, and the fast 7200RPM ATA/66 IDE drives SCSI to me makes less sense for the average to above average computer user. Just look at the cost of the drives. 9.1 GB SCSI drives are 200-300. A 30 GB ATA/66 7200 RPM IDE drive is about 200 or so.I run WIN2K mostly as my desktop and it has great UDMA support. I put my swap drive on my SCSI and boot the OS from the SCSI but most everything else is off the IDEs and they fly. Linux has good UDMA support (If a bit twitchy for some) so I'd enabled that and see how it works out. SCSI will be much more expensive to maintain that is a for sure. I can say I'm not sure I'll give up my SCSI CDROMs though. For Ripping and Burning they are MUCH faster than IDE and much kinder to CPU usage. I can burn a cd from a cd and it uses like 5% CPU. SCSI CDROM's are also much closer in price to their IDE counterparts. You'll give up a little bit in speed but not as big a deal than it is with the HDs. I picked up my plextor 32x USCSI cdrom drive for about 90.00 shipped to my house and my Ricoh 6x4x24 SCSI burner for $115 shipped. Good luck *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 6/28/2000 at 5:32 PM Mike Tracy Holt scribbled: Awesome! I've been posting about that issue for the last couple of days without much response. I'm specifically looking at the 29160 and the Quantum Atlas IV, how much speed would you say you've gained using this setup over standard ide? I've done all the other upgrades I can think of (processor, ram and dsl) but I'd like to see if I can squeeze some more out. Thanks, Mike Hi All, Hope this message doesn't come out too scrambled because I'm using Netscape mail. But I just wanted to make a comment about those who are having trouble installing 7.1 on Adaptec SCSI cards. I am using an Adaptec 29160 with a Quantum Atlas IV on LUN 1, HP CDRW 9200i on LUN 2, and Seagate Python Tape Drive on LUN 6. Everything else is pretty generic in a sense that I'm using Dual PII400 with some some ram, a IDE Maxtor Drive, and a LS-120. When I first started tried to install Mandrake (at the time it was 7.0) for some reason the install would go into a loop when it was detecting PCI devices. It didn't matter what distribution I used (Caldera, Corel, Mandrake, Red Hat, SuSe) I couldn't get past the initial detection. After playing around I was able to determine that the problem was the EXTERNAL Jaz Drive I had connected on LUN 4 of my SCSI Card. As soon as I removed that external SCSI device I had no problems with the install of 7.0 and when 7.1 was release I had the absolute cleanest and smoothest install of Mandrake (even my sound blaster live! value worked without any required tweaks). So for those of you who might be wondering if you can get a clean install of Mandrake 7.1 on an Adaptec 29160 it is possible. For me the problem turned out to be an external device attached to my SE connector. There could be any # of factors as to why my install worked so well. But I have noticed a message or two concerning the Adaptec 29160 and I can say with confidence it is supported with 7.1. Now if I could only get my cd-burner to work. . .but THATS for another posting. -- Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail/
Re: [newbie] X-server crash
On 28 Jun 00, at 16:27, Dennis Myers wrote: can't get in to server because I had it set to Boot to X-server. So both times I have had to re-install Linux as a new install, and since I haven't figured out how to back up data, I lose stuff. Nothing real Okay!! Set your init default to 3 , ie in /etc/inittab, set the initdefault from 5(which starts the X server on boot) to 3. Or, at lilo boot prompt(if you are using LILO), type linux 3. the x-server (Window in KDE)? How do I get back the server without re-install, I have tried to do just an update but that fails. This is an annoying problem cause I thought linux was more stable than this, or more likely it's something I am doing. Any suggestions would be greatly Linux is certainly more stable than many other operating systems...maybe some of your X settings are not correct. If you can, post what graphic device you are using, that is most likely to be the culprit. __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
[newbie] how to mount IOMEGA zip after emulating scsi
Hi, I've got the following problem. SInce I've got a CD rewriter, in /etc/lilo.conf there has been added : append "hdd=ide-scsi" in order to emulate scsi. This all works great: I can burn and mount the cd-rw on /dev/scd0. No problem at all. However, this also makes my zip-drive to behave scsi (?). This means that the mount command I normally used doesn't work anymore. That command was "mount -t msdos /dev/hdb4 /mnt/iomega" When I try "mount -t msdos /dev/scd1 /mnt/iomega" it complains that "fs msdos" is not supported by kernel. Any bit of advice is welcome! Wienand Drenth
Re: [newbie] installing an Intel i810 video card under Mandrake 7.0
:~I am running a Dell L400c computer as a test pc, it has an onboard video :~card using a Intel i810 chipset. I went to the Dell site, they have a :~RedHat 6.2 driver. This doesn't work on Mandrake 7.0, does anybody know how :~to get it to work? Take LM 7.1, it works with i810 -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
[newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Hello all. I have Linux Mandrake OS 7.0 Complete. I have Bootmagic installed and Partition magic. The bootmagic screen gives me a choice to go into Windows 95 or Linux. When I choose Windows it boots fine but Linux just gives me a black screen that says preparing to open Linux and just sits there. I am supposed to get the installation screen so that I can continue with installation. I have made the suggested boot disk but that does not seem to make a difference here. I have a Pentium 200 MHZ With 2 hard drives. One drive has 2.5 gigs and the other over 7. I have 96 megs of ram. I am not sure what the video card is. It may be EPS-VAPCI2Generic PCI SVGA Adaptor 2mb. I am running Windows 95 v. 4.00.950 and want a dual boot system. Would anyone be able to help? I have emailed for help through the company's support system.. That was over 4 days ago and I have not heard anything yet. Anyone's help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Marcia
[newbie] KMail
Is there a way to make Kmail check a mail account and only download the new messages (No I can't delete the messages after they've been downloaded) -- -David Talbot Those who would choose security over freedom deserve neither. -B. Franklin
Re: [newbie] No go on notebook
Here are a couple of sites to try, they helped me to install MD 7.0 on a Sony VAIO http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~and1000/vaioF-series.html On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote: Ok I'm defnately a newbie to Linux trying to install Mandrake 7.1. After full install it won't get past initilisation and dies just before xwindows starts. Message is "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 07:07 ??? I fear it may be my video card? as I'm using a sony laptop with a nice TFT screen, which of course was not in the setup. Is there a way to get "most" laptop screens supported? Any help'd be great Bruce Christopher Molnar wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Mark wrote: I have a few questions, was wondering if anyone could help? W only works as root. I want all users to see who is on. They can do this using Finger, but I'd rather have W work as I'm so used to it. It displays the header for W, but no username or user info. I tried changing the permissions on the utmp file, but to no avail. what about "w" not "W" ? I just checked and it works here (mdk 7.1 developer install). Finger Command does not retain info once a user logs out. So when I finger user, it says they have never logged in. I'm not sure on this one either. I will open a bug on this one. Thanks. And finally, YTalk, it runs, but will not contact the other user that I'm trying to talk to. How do I get this to run? Is this a process that has to be started? I have never used... sorry. Hope that helps a little. -Chris -- * How can I Automount my brain at boot time ? *
[newbie] (No Subject)
Hi !! I have just installed the Madrake 7.1 iso but near the end of the install he asked me if i had the Ext disk but and the Apps Dick... I dint have those at this point but it seem that we dont need it to install because the istall continued with no problems... What is on those disk ?? is this primordial to have those or just optionnal Thnx Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Fw: Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the face of it, the Federation's economic model tells a lot about TrekVille; there is no money, all things are provided at no charge, everyone simply does their job; sounds as believable as "Beam me up, Scotty". While that senerio is possible it is very unlikely. -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
Re: [Re: [newbie] adaptec scsi]
Michael Scottaline wrote: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How come then it recognizes my 1542 adapter, but I can't access the device? heavens! it even loads the drivers or whatever it's doing when it's booting and lists it amoung the other devices, but I can't use the tape drive. When I attempt to mount the device it tells me there isn't a tape in the drive. -- Mark === Hate to state the obvious but..., Have you made an entry for the tape device in /etc/fstab? Mike "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me." --Winston Churchill Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. Well, actually...I thought about that, but usually I do things like that through linuxconf. I rarely manually edit this file but I have been known to on occasion. HOw should I reference it and what are it's particulars? Doing a HDD is cake now, but when I first started I thought I was going to pull out my hair. -- Mark I love my Linux box... REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! Registered Linux user #1299563
[newbie] es1371
I have a sound card (SoundBlaster of some type) that was detected and installed using the es1371 driver in Mandrake 7.1. Problem is the volume is very unsatisfactory. I've set the Kmixer volume all the way up and it's only "listenable" not quite blastable. (seems like I'm spamming the list with all these problems, but I'm migrating my primary desktop machine (A HP Pavilion 6470Z) and it's my work enviroment. Due to hard drive crash I don't have Windows to fall back on during the upgrade, can't work without mp3's :) ) -- -David Talbot Those who would choose security over freedom deserve neither. -B. Franklin
Re: [newbie] installing an Intel i810 video card under Mandrake 7.0
On 29 Jun 00, at 3:32, Claudio wrote: Try the intel site. I got my driver from there and it was working under M7.0 Try http://www.exocore.com/linux/i810 There's a prety good article out there. Basically you have to get the gart modules from Intel's site and use them. and if you want to play quake, you'll also have to get the glx modules from utahglx. __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
[newbie] Booting Mandrake Linux 7.1 and Windows 2000
I've just installed Mandrake Linux 7.1 on a computer that has Windows 2000 already installed. Linux was installed on its own hard drive. When the boot loader comes up I don't get the option to boot to Windows 2000. I don't even get the option to boot to DOS. The boot loader that comes up is call GRUP. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? Should I just install Windows 2000 again? Thanks in advance. Michael Graveen -- "Bother," said Pooh, as Piglet was assimilated by the Borg. -- Michael Graveen College of Business-Computer Support Phone: 320-650-1040 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: [newbie] No go on notebook
Hi, All, I have a problem with my mouse pointer after installing Mandrake on my Athlon processor which uses a PS2 microsoft mouse and S3- 3D2X graphics card. Instead of the mouse pointer, what I have is a BIG WHITE SQUARE. Do you know what I need to do in the XF86Config file(I suppose,) to change that to a pointer? Thanks in advance for all the help, Hem -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] No go on notebook Here are a couple of sites to try, they helped me to install MD 7.0 on a Sony VAIO http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~and1000/vaioF-series.html On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote: Ok I'm defnately a newbie to Linux trying to install Mandrake 7.1. After full install it won't get past initilisation and dies just before xwindows starts. Message is "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 07:07 ??? I fear it may be my video card? as I'm using a sony laptop with a nice TFT screen, which of course was not in the setup. Is there a way to get "most" laptop screens supported? Any help'd be great Bruce Christopher Molnar wrote: On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Mark wrote: I have a few questions, was wondering if anyone could help? W only works as root. I want all users to see who is on. They can do this using Finger, but I'd rather have W work as I'm so used to it. It displays the header for W, but no username or user info. I tried changing the permissions on the utmp file, but to no avail. what about "w" not "W" ? I just checked and it works here (mdk 7.1 developer install). Finger Command does not retain info once a user logs out. So when I finger user, it says they have never logged in. I'm not sure on this one either. I will open a bug on this one. Thanks. And finally, YTalk, it runs, but will not contact the other user that I'm trying to talk to. How do I get this to run? Is this a process that has to be started? I have never used... sorry. Hope that helps a little. -Chris -- * How can I Automount my brain at boot time ? *
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Marcia Go to this web site: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/ and do a search on "LILO Boot Magic". I'm sure you'll find the solution there, if no one from this list is able to help. I wish I could; I do know that you would probably be better off uninstalling Boot Magic, putting your Win95 boot disk in then at the A:\ prompt , type in fdisk /mbr, ... then put the Mandrake installation CD in, do an upgrade, and then when it comes time to install the boot loader- LILO or grub it should install. The default OS will be LiNUX. I think you should check out that site first and see the other suggestions to solve this, because i've never used Boot Magic. Good Luck Eunice Thompson
Re: [newbie] [Newbie]Wheel Mouse is working but need more help
Adriaan, I didn't have any luck when I created the .xinitrc file so what I did was created a link to /user/X11R6/bin/imwheel in my Autostart folder on my desktop. But before it would work as user I had to give users permission to read and write to /tmp/imwheel.pid I then restarted X and logged back in and it worked! Good luck Trevor Paul wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Adriaan Barel wrote: The solution would then be to create a file like that. Open an editor (no name given, there are many), write imwheel -k on the first line, and save it as ~/.xinitrc Voila. That should do it. Paul Hi Every One, I just got my wheel working on my PS/2 mouse by following instructions at www.mandrakeuser.org/xwin/xmouse.html and in addition editing out two lines that enable 3 button emulation. The file edited was /etc/X11/XF86Config. I am running Version 7.02 of Linux Mandrake. My problem is that after editing the file I'm told to "Restart X, run imwheel -k and everything should work fine now" Well it does but then I'm told to "add this command to your `.xinitrc` or `.xsessionrc` to have it executed automatically on every X startup." What are they talking about; I can't find any files in those names and when I do a file search I get "file found" "/" for both of them. What do I do now. Many Thanks Adriaan -- When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather. Not screaming like the passengers in his car. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] No go on notebook
i just installed Mandrake on a friend's laptop- he's got a Sony Vaio PCG-F250 (or something like that), when it came time to configure X I just took the defaults for the monitor, which was a generic high frequency that can do 1024x768. Everything worked fine except that freakin USB mouse, so he has to use the touchpad. Eunice Thompson
Re: [newbie] Booting Mandrake Linux 7.1 and Windows 2000
On 29 Jun 00, at 13:55, Michael Graveen wrote: don't even get the option to boot to DOS. The boot loader that comes up is call GRUP. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? Should I just install Windows 2000 again? Thanks in advance. Can't say everything accuratey as I use LILO and Win98. But try this. When you get to Linux, startx, and in KDE, you'll have an option to configure LILO. Add win2000 and linux. Make win98/linux your default OS(as per choice) and install LILO. A better and faster option is to wriye your own lilo.conf and then lilo -v. __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
[newbie] Kmail panic
Hello I have been running kmail-1.29 for quite a while, unfortunately it decided to not send emails anymore (error 550). Would anyone know what could be wrong? Thanks a lot. Ed
Re: [newbie] acrobat rpm
I got mine from adobe. URL follows: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html Follow links to free reader and choose the one for Linux. Bambi Sthitaprajna wrote: Hello folks Can anyone point out an url for adobe acrobat rpm which works with Mandrake Air without segmentation errors while changing pages? Rgds __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
Re: [newbie] promise controller
I'm s happy that I asked before trying to fiddle with it in Mandrake 7.0 Happy days are here again off to burn some iso images. Sir Larry the Happy Mark wrote: Yes larry, mine finally worked with no problems!! I'm really happy about it! I have 2 drives on my promise, and my CD-R and CD Rom on mainboard. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Hignight Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:31 AM To: Mandrake Mail List Subject: [newbie] promise controller Hello, I was wondering if the Promise ata66 controllers are recognized by the Mandrake 7.1 installation. Anyone had any success? Larry
[newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?
Hello All, I have been lurking and have noticed that many people have had trouble with installing V7.1. I am not talking about burning CDs, etc, but rather with the actual installation. I just ordered 7.1 and the CDs should be here shortly. Question is, is it okay. Seems like some have been having trouble with either X config, or not picking up something, or mouse problems, etc. Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established version. Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install? Any thoughts from those who have installed it? Thanks, Gary
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
first you have to make sure...that "lilo" is installed on your hard drive,,,that has linux on it...then lilo has to be configured to boot linux first...not windows... then bootmagic...must be configured correctly... I have partitionmagic 5.0 it comes with bootmagic... and this is how I have it, on my system...it's setup like yours... except...for I have a 8.4 gig hd with two partitions...windows is the first...and linux second... I have lilo on the linux part...not on the MBRand use bootmagic...to boot to lilo...which in turn,boots to linux hope this helps On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, you wrote: Marcia Waller wrote: Hello all. I have Linux Mandrake OS 7.0 Complete. I have Bootmagic installed and Partition magic. The bootmagic screen gives me a choice to go into Windows 95 or Linux. When I choose Windows it boots fine but Linux just gives me a black screen that says preparing to open Linux and just sits there. I am supposed to get the installation screen so that I can continue with installation. I have made the suggested boot disk but that does not seem to make a difference here. I have a Pentium 200 MHZ With 2 hard drives. One drive has 2.5 gigs and the other over 7. I have 96 megs of ram. I am not sure what the video card is. It may be EPS-VAPCI2Generic PCI SVGA Adaptor 2mb. I am running Windows 95 v. 4.00.950 and want a dual boot system. Would anyone be able to help? I have emailed for help through the company's support system.. That was over 4 days ago and I have not heard anything yet. Anyone's help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Marcia It seems Linux is not yet installed ? First step is to make partitions for Linux. So what about your HD's ? Windoooz room ? Eric -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [[newbie] X-server crash]
Jaguar wrote: At the LILO prompt when first starting Linux type "linux 3" -- w/o quotes. That will take you to a text console, from there you can rerun your X setup with whatever config program your prefer. As to why you lose X config I have no idea. HTH Jaguar Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a problem I have had a couple of times. I spend time on the net one night and everything is ok, I boot up the next day and my X-server won't boot, the screen just flashes off and on black to blue. I can't get in to server because I had it set to Boot to X-server. So both times I have had to re-install Linux as a new install, and since I haven't figured out how to back up data, I lose stuff. Nothing real important, but a pain to get back on the system. First, why do I lose the x-server (Window in KDE)? How do I get back the server without re-install, I have tried to do just an update but that fails. This is an annoying problem cause I thought linux was more stable than this, or more likely it's something I am doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dennis The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. All the response indicates that I am not the first to have the problem. I have noted all solutions, and thanks to all. I will not do reinstalls from now on. I don't know the source of the problem unless it is the S3 Trio3D/2X agp card. If I keep having the problem I may change cards. Any suggestions for a card that 7.0 likes? Thanks again for the response.
Re: [newbie] SCSI Zip dirve
HughI've been using a scsi zip drive since Mandrake 5.2. There's nothing to set up in recent versions, it's recognized during the install and set up automatically as a supermount device. Alan Hugh wrote: Hey I was just wondering has anyone ever set up a SCSI Zip dirve? I was wondering how to go about it and if it would be really much faster then a P port setup
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Marciaboot your computer with the floppy that you created created during the Linux installation. Login as root. In a console type: /sbin/lilo The next time you boot the computer you should be able to choose Linux from BootMagic successfully. Alan Marcia Waller wrote: Hello all. I have Linux Mandrake OS 7.0 Complete. I have Bootmagic installed and Partition magic. The bootmagic screen gives me a choice to go into Windows 95 or Linux. When I choose Windows it boots fine but Linux just gives me a black screen that says preparing to open Linux and just sits there. I am supposed to get the installation screen so that I can continue with installation. I have made the suggested boot disk but that does not seem to make a difference here. I have a Pentium 200 MHZ With 2 hard drives. One drive has 2.5 gigs and the other over 7. I have 96 megs of ram. I am not sure what the video card is. It may be EPS-VAPCI2Generic PCI SVGA Adaptor 2mb. I am running Windows 95 v. 4.00.950 and want a dual boot system. Would anyone be able to help? I have emailed for help through the company's support system.. That was over 4 days ago and I have not heard anything yet. Anyone's help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Razer Boomslang USB Mouse in Mandrake7.0
Hello all, I rebooted today and noticed the problem isn't the mouse configuration; rather, the usb mouse module is failing to load. I'm not too familiar with Mandrake so I used the console to take a look at /lib/modules and to my surprise there are six directories ?!?!?! uname -a (or -r) revealed that the kernel being loaded was 2.2.14-1mdklinus However, I don't know the name of the usb mouse module to make sure that it was compiled. Second, I don't know of a tool in mandrake to use to load modules. Any ideas? Larry Console or terminal mode, use mouseconfig. Select USB mouse at the bottom of the list. GoodLuck Dennis/sg Hi everyone, I was wondering what settings people are using to get a Razer Boomslang usb mouse to work under Mandrake7.0. I know it will work because I had it working with Mandrake7.0 for about three weeks. Then I reinstalled because I wanted to make some changes . and now I can't remember the settings I used to get it to work. Any help would be appreciated. Larry
[newbie] Installation problems...
Hello there, I have some trouble installing Mandrake on my system and would like some help. The problem is that, when I boot from a disk (being created by rawrite using cdrom.img), installation starts normally, and I get into the graphical user interface. I select the keyboard map and stuff, but when the installer reaches the 'SCSI detection' step the system freezes. I downloaded the patch you give, and put it in the boot disk under the name 'patch.pl'. At the boot prompt, I entered 'linux patch' as it is said, but still, the problem persists, and the system freezes when it reaches the 'SCSI detection' step. What do I have to do to make the patch work? Also, I tried to install Mandrake using the 'txt_boot.img'. In this case, the installation of packages would finish, but then again I would have problem starting the X server. I choose the monitor from the list, and then it detects my graphics card correctly. When it tries to start the X server for testing my settings, the screen would blink a few times, and then a message would appear saying that an error occurred and X server could not be started. I would appreciate it if you could help me a little bit and tell me what to do. Below is my system description in case you need it: Pentium-MMX 166MHz 48MB RAM Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 2MB (BIOS 1.04, rev L) Opti 924 Soundcard and I have three hard disks: 1GB (FAT32), 528MB (on which I install linux) and 100MB(FAT). Sony CDROM 2x Modem 56KBps Also, the installer freezes at the SCSI detection step, on the Celeron-466MHz I use. Thanks for your help.
Re: [newbie] adaptec scsi aha152x
Thanks Didier for the reply I tried the modprobe, no luck, so I reinstalled. This time just entered 0140,10,7,1 at the SCSI setup option. (the install book not clear here) Only other problem was that I needed to edit /etc/fstab to change the /mnt/zip from the vfat automatically set up to ext2 for linux.. I can access zip disk OK. Another question tho - there doesnt seem to be any way with this system to mount the zip drive on the desktop by right-clicking the zip icon. There seems to be only one icon showing, for either a mounted or unmounted zip drive. I edited /etc/fstab to make the zip and floppy drives noauto for mounting. Bill Hello, I have an adaptec aha152b. It work fine with these settings aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 (IO base, DMA, SCSI ID, parity) Try modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 [set the values according to your system] Then, if it works, enter the line in rc.local OR Reinstall (update) and enter the settings when asked. I hope this will be helpful. Didier -Message d'origine- De : William Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoye : jeudi 29 juin 2000 01:46 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [newbie] adaptec scsi aha152x My SCSI card was not recognized on the install of Man 7.0 It works on Win98 and on Caldera 2.2 It's adaptec AHA-150x/1510/152x/AIC-6x60 I tried entering the io=0x140 irq=10 after the auto recognition failed, but no luck there. Also, the install book doesnt seem to indicate how to set up SCSI later if I do complete the rest of the installation. Suggestions appreciated. Bill __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement) -- Joe St.Clair - KSI Machine Engineering
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Partition Magic has partitioned my HD supposedly. That was done first. Thank you for your help.Marcia
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
I will check out the website, thank you. Your suggestion sounds good. If this bootmagic thing does not work I will do what you suggest. Thank you for your help. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?
On 29 Jun 00, at 19:33, Larry Hignight wrote: If for some reason your employer or someone else won't allow you to delete the messages check into fetchmail. It is an excellent program designed to fetch The employer will have to be real daft to have such a policy. Pretty soon, the mailbox quotas will be filled, what then? mail off of servers. Don't quote me but I believe it will do what you need quite nicely. Be sure to read up a bit and try fetchmailconf for the configuration. Fetchmail has no option to download only new messages. The only options of note are the "all" option which'll get everything, and the "keep" option which'll suck all but leave the msgs on the mail host. There's one way thoughif you can run a procmail recipe right at your mail host, it might help, like you download all the headers and select those messages you want to download. But don't think KMAIL is capable of this. If your mail host follows the IMAP proto, it might help. __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?
On 29 Jun 00, at 19:49, Gary wrote: Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established version. Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install? Any thoughts from those who have installed it? I believe, if something is working fine, don't break it. If you do not find any special need, then there is no need to upgrade, or for that matter change your OS. When I upgraded the X server to version on my m/c, my goal was better support for my V3, so that I could play Quake better. And it worked better too, with better drivers, the glx extensions and the new XFree4 __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
RE: [newbie] No go on notebook
On 29 Jun 00, at 14:16, Hem Ramachandran wrote: I have a problem with my mouse pointer after installing Mandrake on my Athlon processor which uses a PS2 microsoft mouse and S3- 3D2X graphics card. Instead of the mouse pointer, what I have is a BIG WHITE SQUARE. Do you know what I need to do in the XF86Config file(I suppose,) to change that to a pointer? To remove that white block add this to your /etc/XF86Config under the graphic device tab: no sw_cursor. Please check. If this does'nt work, then try sw_cursor. One of them works, but have forgotten which. __ _ Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com / / (_)__ __ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a //_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
[newbie] Upgrade/Install Options -- DANGER AHEAD!!
Dear Denis and friends: Remember my rant about this problem (i.e. of combinging the install/upgrade option with automatic/custom/expert on THE SAME DIALOGUE BOX? Well, as luck or rather misfortune (almost!) would have it, it just happened to me. Anxious to try out the new 7.1 anti-aliasing (which is a welcome relief from squinting my eyes for the past year and half on the Web), I decided to download 7.1 from the Web by FTP using a floppy network. Thanks to your excellent troubleshooting, the original problem of downloading the two CD has indeed been fixed, and the installation went FLAWLESSLY from metalab.unc.edu. I choose to do an Install (Custom, Normal) into hda (/). hdb is my /home directory and hdc is my Win98 partition. No problem. After configuring everything and setting up KDE, I went back, as I usually do, to metalab.unc.edu to download the Devlopment files (Expert, Normal). [Footnote: I found it very difficult to highlight more than one category at a time in order to download the various categories. Fortunately, I only needed Development, so that was no problem, but you may wish to investigate the matter and see if there is a bug in highlighting and selecting more than one category. I had no such problem in my official LM 7.0 Power Pack CD.] NOW THE PLOT THICKENS: As soon as I got through the first few screens (mouse, keyboard, etc.), I suddenly find myself face to face with the Installation Options: Automated, Custom, Expert arranged vertically on the left and Install or Upgrade horizontally on the bottom of the dialogue box. And, to add to the confusion, Automated is checked as Default. I cannot imagine, as I have already mentioned this earlier, a more disaster-prone situation than this. And, lo, just as I thought, before I had a chance to think through, I hit the Upgrade button and suddenly I see: "Getting available packages."' No way TO TURN BACK AND CORRECT my mistake. NO ERROR MESSAGE STOPPING ME DEAD IN MY TRACKS asking: Are you sure you want to select "Automate" (since Automate will probably wipe out all of your drives, including Windows). After spending several hours downloading and installing and configuring LM 7.1 and doing it perfectly, suddenly I found myself about TO LOSE EVERYTHING due to human error, an error all to commonly made by us mortals, in fact, as likely to be made by the more experienced as by the newbie. Fortunately, I understood what I had to do: I immediately powered off the system and removed the floppy network.img install diskette. Then, I went back to metalab and very gingerly made sure to select Upgrade and Expert, then Development. Believe me, if I were a newbie or even an expert (even experts are prone to human error), I would be mad as hell at Mandrake for ruining my installation. Wouldn't you? Whoever joined those two sets of options was thinking of EFFICIENCY, NOT, I assure you, USER-FRIENDLINESS!!! Here is what I suggest to protect newbies, moderately experienced users and even experts: First dialogue box: INSTALL or UPGRADE (just as in LM 7.0. With option to go BACK and change one's selection. Second dialogue box: Automated, Custom or Expert with Automated checked, if you wish (again, as in LM 7.0. With option to go BACK and change one's selection. Third dialgoue box: Normal, Development, Server with option to go BACK and change one's selection. NOW, AN EXTRA SUMMARY DIALOGUE BOX (just as you do for the printer or Xconfigurator): a summary of all selections made with an OPTION to EDIT these selections or to go BACK and change them. Then, and only then, should a user be thrown into the irreversible process of downloading the packages themselves. I implore you, heed my example and I am sure that of (tens) of thousands of others. The installation process is TERRIFYING enough. Think of the user. That's your motto: "a user-friendly OS". Protect the user. Don't expose him/her to unbearable stress and anxiety that are TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. Combining the two installation options as explained above to save a few bytes is EXTREMELY REGRESSIVE and extremely anxiety-inducing. You are one of the easiest Linux distro to install so far and, in my opinion and that of many others, the finest distro available. Don't mess it up with cost-cutting bullshit. Always look at it from the point of view of the user, especially the newbie or the ordinary user who is installing for the first time (and then upgrading for the first time). I know that the combined dialogue box looks LOGICAL. But that's the point. Sometimes LOGIC is in direct conflict with COMMON SENSE and USER-FRIENDLINESS. I will close with an example from Windows 3.1. Those of you who used 3.1 might remember that in the File Manager, Microsoft in its infinite wisdom choose to arrange the options under File as follows: MOVE COPY DELETE Now that looks very logical. Doesn't it. Yes, all too logical. It's a recipe for disaster, all the more so since Win 3.1 does not have a Recycle Bin. You can
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
Marciasure, during the Linux install you were asked to supply a password for the root account, so when the system asks for a login name type root and when it asks for a password type the root password you supplied during the install. Alan Marcia Waller wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Marciaboot your computer with the floppy that you created created during the Linux installation. Login as root. In a console type: /sbin/lilo The next time you boot the computer you should be able to choose Linux from BootMagic successfully. Alan Marcia Waller wrote: Hello all. I have Linux Mandrake OS 7.0 Complete. I have Bootmagic installed and Partition magic. The bootmagic screen gives me a choice to go into Windows 95 or Linux. When I choose Windows it boots fine but Linux just gives me a black screen that says preparing to open Linux and just sits there. I am supposed to get the installation screen so that I can continue with installation. I have made the suggested boot disk but that does not seem to make a difference here. I have a Pentium 200 MHZ With 2 hard drives. One drive has 2.5 gigs and the other over 7. I have 96 megs of ram. I am not sure what the video card is. It may be EPS-VAPCI2Generic PCI SVGA Adaptor 2mb. I am running Windows 95 v. 4.00.950 and want a dual boot system. Would anyone be able to help? I have emailed for help through the company's support system.. That was over 4 days ago and I have not heard anything yet. Anyone's help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Marcia I would like to try this but I am a true newbie and I am not sure how to login as root. Could you explain exactly how to do this? Thank you very much for your help. Marcia
Re: [newbie] supermount
In editing the /etc/fstab I run across the term supermount. My books don't describe this. I want to set the zip and floppy drives so that a user as well as root can access them and I thought that the entry user or users would do this. Thanks for any info bill
Re: [newbie] how to mount IOMEGA zip after emulating scsi
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Wienand Drenth wrote: Hi, I've got the following problem. SInce I've got a CD rewriter, in /etc/lilo.conf there has been added : append "hdd=ide-scsi" in order to emulate scsi. This all works great: I can burn and mount the cd rewriter on /dev/scd0. No problem at all. However, this also makes my zip-drive to behave scsi (?). This means that the mount command I normally used doesn't work anymore. That command was "mount -t msdos /dev/hdb4 /mnt/iomega" When I try "mount -t msdos /dev/scd1 /mnt/iomega" it complains that "fs msdos" is not supported by kernel. I guess the disk you use is MSDOS formatted? For some reason then you need to mount /dev/scd4, instead of scd1. That made things work with me... Paul -- All opinions stated here are mine. You go get your own! )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:03:16AM +0530 or thereabouts, Sthitaprajna wrote: Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established version. Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install? Any thoughts from those who have installed it? I believe, if something is working fine, don't break it. If you do not find any special need, then there is no need to upgrade, or for that matter change your OS. When I upgraded the X server to version on my m/c, my goal was better support for my V3, so that I could play Quake better. And it worked better too, with better drivers, the glx extensions and the new XFree4 Thanks for your input. I really would like the drivers for my TNT2 though, plus the mentioned above. Do you think an install over the 7.0 would suffice? I really have my doubts considering the horror stories here upon upgrading. Best regards, Gary
Re: [newbie] Upgrade/Install Options -- DANGER AHEAD!!
Benjaminhfirst off what's this doing in newbie? Second, are you assuming that an upgrade is going to partition/format the drive(s) or is there evidence that this happens? After all an upgrade skips the partitioning step. You can't, after all, upgrade a clean set of partitions that have no system to upgrade. Just because it's called automated shouldn't make it wipe a system before it does the upgrade. Thats rather silly. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Denis and friends: Remember my rant about this problem (i.e. of combinging the install/upgrade option with automatic/custom/expert on THE SAME DIALOGUE BOX? Well, as luck or rather misfortune (almost!) would have it, it just happened to me. Anxious to try out the new 7.1 anti-aliasing (which is a welcome relief from squinting my eyes for the past year and half on the Web), I decided to download 7.1 from the Web by FTP using a floppy network. Thanks to your excellent troubleshooting, the original problem of downloading the two CD has indeed been fixed, and the installation went FLAWLESSLY from metalab.unc.edu. I choose to do an Install (Custom, Normal) into hda (/). hdb is my /home directory and hdc is my Win98 partition. No problem. After configuring everything and setting up KDE, I went back, as I usually do, to metalab.unc.edu to download the Devlopment files (Expert, Normal). [Footnote: I found it very difficult to highlight more than one category at a time in order to download the various categories. Fortunately, I only needed Development, so that was no problem, but you may wish to investigate the matter and see if there is a bug in highlighting and selecting more than one category. I had no such problem in my official LM 7.0 Power Pack CD.] NOW THE PLOT THICKENS: As soon as I got through the first few screens (mouse, keyboard, etc.), I suddenly find myself face to face with the Installation Options: Automated, Custom, Expert arranged vertically on the left and Install or Upgrade horizontally on the bottom of the dialogue box. And, to add to the confusion, Automated is checked as Default. I cannot imagine, as I have already mentioned this earlier, a more disaster-prone situation than this. And, lo, just as I thought, before I had a chance to think through, I hit the Upgrade button and suddenly I see: "Getting available packages."' No way TO TURN BACK AND CORRECT my mistake. NO ERROR MESSAGE STOPPING ME DEAD IN MY TRACKS asking: Are you sure you want to select "Automate" (since Automate will probably wipe out all of your drives, including Windows). After spending several hours downloading and installing and configuring LM 7.1 and doing it perfectly, suddenly I found myself about TO LOSE EVERYTHING due to human error, an error all to commonly made by us mortals, in fact, as likely to be made by the more experienced as by the newbie. Fortunately, I understood what I had to do: I immediately powered off the system and removed the floppy network.img install diskette. Then, I went back to metalab and very gingerly made sure to select Upgrade and Expert, then Development. Believe me, if I were a newbie or even an expert (even experts are prone to human error), I would be mad as hell at Mandrake for ruining my installation. Wouldn't you? Whoever joined those two sets of options was thinking of EFFICIENCY, NOT, I assure you, USER-FRIENDLINESS!!! Here is what I suggest to protect newbies, moderately experienced users and even experts: First dialogue box: INSTALL or UPGRADE (just as in LM 7.0. With option to go BACK and change one's selection. Second dialogue box: Automated, Custom or Expert with Automated checked, if you wish (again, as in LM 7.0. With option to go BACK and change one's selection. Third dialgoue box: Normal, Development, Server with option to go BACK and change one's selection. NOW, AN EXTRA SUMMARY DIALOGUE BOX (just as you do for the printer or Xconfigurator): a summary of all selections made with an OPTION to EDIT these selections or to go BACK and change them. Then, and only then, should a user be thrown into the irreversible process of downloading the packages themselves. I implore you, heed my example and I am sure that of (tens) of thousands of others. The installation process is TERRIFYING enough. Think of the user. That's your motto: "a user-friendly OS". Protect the user. Don't expose him/her to unbearable stress and anxiety that are TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. Combining the two installation options as explained above to save a few bytes is EXTREMELY REGRESSIVE and extremely anxiety-inducing. You are one of the easiest Linux distro to install so far and, in my opinion and that of many others, the finest distro available. Don't mess it up with cost-cutting bullshit. Always look at it from the point of view of the user, especially the newbie or the ordinary user who is installing for the first time (and then
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 Installao?
I have been lurking and have noticed that many people have had trouble with installing V7.1. I am not talking about burning CDs, etc, but rather with the actual installation. I just ordered 7.1 and the CDs should be here shortly. Question is, is it okay. Seems like some have been having trouble with either X config, or not picking up something, or mouse problems, etc. People will always have problems installing a distro. I've been lucky, I've never had a major unfixable problem during the install. But I'm helping a friend of mine trying to install 6.1 and he's having all sorts of trouble. It just varies by the machine. Also, there was talk of problems with freeX86 V4, versus the established version. The first time I tried it, it worked fine except for the mouse wheel. I eventually found out how to get the mouse wheel to work, but by that time I was stuck in 3.3.6. And then when I finally figured out how to get back to X 4.0, the resolution was all screwed up and none of the X tools seemed to affect 4.0. The second time I installed, 4.0 came up with too high a resolution again, and now I couldn't get back to 3.3.6. So finally I just said screw it and went with 3.3.6. Basically, if your card is supported under 3.3.6, then go with 3.3.6. Should I install it over 7.0 (which is very well setup for me presently), or just do a fresh install? Apparently there has been problems with installs taking forever (12 hours +) if you decide to upgrade. So I'd suggest a fresh install. Any thoughts from those who have installed it? Thanks, Gary -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
RE: [newbie] W, Finger Ytalk ?'s
W only works as root. I want all users to see who is on. They can do this using Finger, but I'd rather have W work as I'm so used to it. It displays the header for W, but no username or user info. I tried changing the permissions on the utmp file, but to no avail. what about "w" not "W" ? I just checked and it works here (mdk 7.1 developer install). Yeah, that was what I meant to put, I was just emphasizing on the w. it will show me the info as root, but not as a standard user. who works fine, but i like to see a little more info. Finger Command does not retain info once a user logs out. So when I finger user, it says they have never logged in. I'm not sure on this one either. I will open a bug on this one. Thanks. May not have to do that... I found today that it also works for root also. So I'm wondering for both finger and w what files would i have to change ownership of or permissions of? And finally, YTalk, it runs, but will not contact the other user that I'm trying to talk to. How do I get this to run? Is this a process that has to be started? I have never used... sorry. well, i kept trying... but to no avail. I can't find any help from anyone on ytalk. does anyone, anywhere use it? not in the newbie, expert or my local LUG can anyone provide an answer. so i installed talk instead and uncommented a few lines in my inetd.conf and it works fine. wanted to use ytalk, guess i'll figure that out later. Thanks Mark
Re: [newbie] Trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.0
This seems to make sense. Thank you. I will try this. Marcia
