Re: [newbie-it]
Il 18:22, lunedì 27 agosto 2001, hai scritto: SITUAZIONE: 3 file iso di ciraca 650MB. fatto download dei file da www.linuxiso.org (perla cronaca immagini della debian) e il test md5 risultava (su partizione RiserFs) ... copiati i 3 files su un disco NTFS5 e fatto il medesimo test con md5sum.exe (scaricato dal medesimo sito) mi torna tutti e 3 i valori errati. può essere che il sistema ha problemi no le partizioni NTFS5 ?? In effetti il supporto per NTFS non è dei migliori, e la scrittura è addirittura sconsigliata. Dal file di help del kernel 2.4.9: CONFIG_NTFS_RW: If you say Y here, you will (maybe) be able to write to NTFS file systems as well as read from them. The read-write support in NTFS is far from being complete and is not well tested. If you say Y here, back up your NTFS volume first, since it will probably get damaged. Also, download the Linux-NTFS project distribution from Sourceforge at http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/ and always run the included ntfsfix utility after writing to an NTFS partition from Linux to fix some of the damage done by the driver. You should run ntfsfix _after_ unmounting the partition in Linux but _before_ rebooting into Windows. When Windows next boots, chkdsk will be run automatically to fix the remaining damage. Please note that write support is limited to Windows NT4 and earlier versions. If unsure, say N.
Re: [newbie-it] mandrake 8 installazione
Il 14:05, lunedì 27 agosto 2001, hai scritto: cari amici , ho installato per la prima volta mandrake 8 ( già conoscevo linux avendo provato corel linux e redhat). il problema che mi accade ,dopo una installazione tranquilla seconda la procedura raccomandata da principiante, è ke alla fine nel momento in cui deve riavviare si blocca!! ho provato a resettare io e chiaramente al bootloader scelgo linux ma nn parte!!! ho provato decine di volte ma nn so cosa devo fare mi accade sempre lo stesso problema... aiutatemigrazie Innanzitutto io proverei l'altro tipo di installazione (quella per esperti), perchè anche se non risolverai il problema avrai imparato qualcosa di più. Comunque sia... a mio modesto avviso le cause principali (tenuto conto che mdk è veramente una delle distribuzioni meglio preconfigurate) possono essere due: 1) non corretta configurazione della schea grafica (da imputare chiaramente alla procedura automatica del sistema di installazione); 2) una qualche incompatibilità hardware. Fatti prestare una scheda grafica da un amico e prova. ciao
Re: [newbie-it] mandrake 8 installazione
Alex Dub wrote: cari amici , ho installato per la prima volta mandrake 8 ( già conoscevo linux avendo provato corel linux e redhat). il problema che mi accade ,dopo una installazione tranquilla seconda la procedura raccomandata da principiante, è ke alla fine nel momento in cui deve riavviare si blocca!! ho provato a resettare io e chiaramente al bootloader scelgo linux ma nn parte!!! ho provato decine di volte ma nn so cosa devo fare mi accade sempre lo stesso problema... aiutatemigrazie A che punto si blocca esattamente? Qual'e` l'ultima cosa che ti compare sul video? Se ben ricordo Mandrake invia i messaggi grafici di boot sulla console F12. Prova con control-alt-F1, cntr-alt-F2, ... a vedere se appare qualche messaggio illuminante sulle altre console virtuali. Comunque la cosa piu` probabile e` che non sia stata configurata bene la scheda grafica. Prova ad entrare non come linux ma come linux fail save - mi sembra che il menu` di avvio abbia questa scelta e vedere di riconfigurare il server X. Controlla anche su http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3 se la tua scheda e` supportata. ciao, andrea
Re: [newbie-it] visualizzazione caratteri
Il 15:45, lunedì 27 agosto 2001, hai scritto: Ciao Sandro, ti rispondo solo ora perchè sono tornato solo da un paio di giorni dalle (ormai finite... sigh!) vacanze. Ho fatto, come suggerivi, qualche test con Gnome; sembrerebbe che il problema di visualizzazione dei caratteri sia limitato al KDE (anche se mi sono limitato a gironzolare un po' per il sistema, aprendo applicazioni e terminali e finestre e ...). Con Gnome la visualizzazione dei caratteri non mi ha dato alcun problema. Se questo ti fa venire in mente qualche ulteriore suggerimento per provare a risolvere il problema, un grazie in anticipo!!! Daniele Ciao Dianiele Dunque, non ricordo esattamente se nei precedenti messaggi (periodicamente archivio i messaggi di posta e dovrei andarli a cercare) ti era stato suggerito di utilizzare l'antialiasing per i caratteri (l'opzione si trova nel centro di controllo del KDE) e che funziona, appunto, solo per il KDE. Nel caso non lo avessi fatto, fallo. Anche io avevo dei problemi di visualizzazione, più che altro nei caratteri delle pagine web visitate e sui file di testo. Impostando l'antialiasing ho risolto. Adesso anche l'AD-Mono compare come l'Adventure in corsivo per tutti i testi che non hanno una impostazione di caratteri particolare. Il fatto che con Gnome sia tutto corretto, ovviamente, esclude che possa essere un problema di scheda grafica (a meno di non essere smentito da qualcuno che ne sa più di me (non è difficile trovarne qualcuno :-)). Attendo tue nuove, ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini Linux Mandrake 8.0 Linux User: 203143 Linux Machine: 103048
Re: [newbie-it] mandrake 8 installazione
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 12:25, Andrea Celli wrote: Alex Dub wrote: cari amici , ho installato per la prima volta mandrake 8 ( già conoscevo linux avendo provato corel linux e redhat). il problema che mi accade ,dopo una installazione tranquilla seconda la procedura raccomandata da principiante, è ke alla fine nel momento in cui deve riavviare si blocca!! ho provato a resettare io e chiaramente al bootloader scelgo linux ma nn parte!!! ho provato decine di volte ma nn so cosa devo fare mi accade sempre lo stesso problema... aiutatemigrazie ma arrivi al boot della mandrake? se non ricordo male, una delle prime farsi e' la possibilita' di premere un tasto per avere lo startup interattivo. Cosi' almeno potresti vedere dove effettivamente si blocca. Per vedere se e' la scheda video malconfigurata entra col cd in rescue (F1 direi) e cambia nell' /etc/inittab il valore del defaultrunlevel da 5 a 3. Cosi' perlomeno dovresti arrivare in console. ehm..a proposito, guardando ora il mio inittab, di una RH 7.1... id:5:initdefault: cioe', l'ho installata da poco, e' normale? provo a cambiarlo bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://62.149.147.100/~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
[newbie-it] Configurazione Display LCD TFT 14
Salve, ho installato Mandrake 8.0 sul mio nuovo laptop. Tutto bene (anche il winmodem funziona), ma non riesco a configurare al meglio il display ovvero la risoluzione( Il desktop è più grande del video). Ho un display TFT SXGA da 14 con scheda video Sis 630 8 MB. Aiutatemi. Ciao
Re: [newbie] Mouse wheel kde 2.2
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 07:10 am, Joan Tur wrote: Es Dilluns 27 Agost 2001 16:16, en skinky va escriure: On Tuesday 28 August 2001 13:07, you wrote: Hallo! After upgrading to kde 2.2 i've noticed that both kmail v.1.3 and galeon v.0.12 move 1 page down each wheel's click. Konqueror and NS4.77 work fine with this moving 1 line down each click 8-? Under Galeon's settings i can change this but nothing happens... Thanks!! You could try changing the mouse scroll settings KDE Control Center Peripherals Mouse Advanced tab Mouse Wheel Scrolls By Might work. Thanks for your answer... no luck 8( Default was 3 but i see no change using 2 and 1 (and restarting kde+xfree between changes)... thanks anyway Could it be imwheel running that is causing the problem? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
The T-Bird has more level 1 and level 2 cache than the Duron. Otherwise they are exactly the same. But because of the extra cache (espcially the level 1) the CPU does go a lot faster. Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Doug X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please Hi everyone, I am considering upgrading my MB and CPU and would like to know which would be a better choice for LM8. I am looking for AMD Duron 900 - 1GHz or Athlon T-bird 1GHz. and maybe Microstar K7T Turbo or GigaByte GA-7ZXR-C I am a student with not so much $, so I am looking for CPU under $150CDN and MB under $240CDN. My current hardware that will go in the new system is SCSI PCI for HP6300C, ATI 4MB PCI(just for now), Ethernet PCI for SHAW. Would anyone recommend a combination of this hardware or something more appropriate for LM8, please. Is there any benefit to choosing T-Bird over Duron? Thank you in advance, Doug __ _ Visit http://www.visto.com. Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the enterprise with Visto. -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] What version of gcc do I have?
How can I tell what version of gcc I have? Or any other program, for that matter? (I'm asking specifically for the command line way to do this) Thanks again, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What version of gcc do I have?
Hi, Just type gcc -v. For more information: man gcc Fred On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:51:31 -0400 Isaac Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I tell what version of gcc I have? Or any other program, for that matter? (I'm asking specifically for the command line way to do this) Thanks again, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
I read a report recently on the duron 1gig, and it showed that the performance is almost the same as a 1gig PIII within 5 to 10% for most things, and in a couple it was faster... According to the report, the 1gig Duron is using the new AMD Palamino core , and it is significantly improved on the older durons... in fact, according to the report, the only difference was the L2 cache, only having 64k, according to them, the new one is otherwise exactly the same as the new Athlons. The benchmarks proved that, they used a Duron950 to compare it to, and the differences in the results were FAR in excess of what would be expected for the 50mhz speed increase. Apparently, it will overclock quiet happily to 1.13gig I have a Duron 900 that is a month or two old, (I bought it as soon as they came out over here and it was the top them.) I wish I had gotten a 1 gig athlon as the price difference is small now... (about 20AU) Now, I am waiting until the current range of athlons are also using the new Palamino core I think they currently use one called Spitfire, although that may be just for the Durons. It is expected that all the athlons now will be made on the new corevery soon. so I will wait for that before lashing out on a 1.4 gig Athlon. (hopefully after the 1.633 is out... so its cheaper.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert MacLean Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please The T-Bird has more level 1 and level 2 cache than the Duron. Otherwise they are exactly the same. But because of the extra cache (espcially the level 1) the CPU does go a lot faster. Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Doug X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please Hi everyone, I am considering upgrading my MB and CPU and would like to know which would be a better choice for LM8. I am looking for AMD Duron 900 - 1GHz or Athlon T-bird 1GHz. and maybe Microstar K7T Turbo or GigaByte GA-7ZXR-C I am a student with not so much $, so I am looking for CPU under $150CDN and MB under $240CDN. My current hardware that will go in the new system is SCSI PCI for HP6300C, ATI 4MB PCI(just for now), Ethernet PCI for SHAW. Would anyone recommend a combination of this hardware or something more appropriate for LM8, please. Is there any benefit to choosing T-Bird over Duron? Thank you in advance, Doug __ _ Visit http://www.visto.com. Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the enterprise with Visto. -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is this a viri? (made in Taiwan)
etharp banged on their keyboard and produced the following arrangement of letters: - I got this mail (this is just the header and part of the symbols, I don't - want to infect anyone ) and was wondering if it's a viri, or just in some - language I don't have font's installed for? Hehe :-) No it's not a virus... or rather a virus of a peculiar kind which is commonly called spam... The symbols you saw are chinese characters encoded in Big5. You could view them if you have chinese traditional fonts installed, under big5 encoding. You are right, the last line are phone numbers, the first one for someone in Taipei, Republic of China, and the second one is a mobile phone number. I am afraid that my countrymen are very good at sending spam to everyone... :-( Rest in peace: your computer won't explode or anything. Anguo - ±z¦n¡A§Ú̼x¯¸ªø - ¡@¢w¡@3¸U³Ð·~¡A°e±zºô¯¸¡A¥ß¨è¶}·~¡@¢w¡@ - - ¡@¸gÀ礤·~ÁZ10¸U¥H¤W¤§¡]©Ð«Î¯²°â ¨D¤~¨D¾¡^ºô¯¸ - - ¡@adhot ¥[·ù¹q¸Ü (2) 2911-0103¡@¡@ȯZ¾÷¡@O925-774-515¡@ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in?
u guys probably got gmc on autostart (find and erase) OR most likely, u once ran gmc then quit kde with the option to save ur session as is so as to resume it next boot. u can 1. kill the gmc process (that should also kill the gnome icons) then save ur sessions 2. somewhere in the kde control panel is the same save sessions options but i cant for the life of me remember where - Original Message - From: Charles A. Punch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in? I know that there is probably a better way to do this, but I, (in desperation) got rid of those bad boys, by slapping them with Xkill everytime they showed up. It took five or six times, but eventually they stopped coming up, so far. If there is a better way to do this that will not leave a lot of unfinished cleanup (as this probably did) I would like to know also. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Jon Doe wrote: I have a strange problem. I am running Mandrake 8.0 and I have upgraded to the 2.2 KDE. Things work great, except everytime I login now, KDE comes up, then all the Gnome icons come up, over top of the KDE icons and then gmc comes up. I am not sure which file to edit to fix this. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux Lunacy.... a short commentary...
Hi Peoples, I normally wouldn't comment on this, but I felt obliged to this time.. This mailing list is great for what it is, a DISCUSSION forum for linux (in particular, Mandrake Linux) Infer from that what you will, however, I don't see anything anywhere that states we must not talk about non tech issues.. We are an online community, and I sort of consider many of you friends in an online sort of way :-) we have similiar interests, (wouln't be here otherwise) and often we are able to help each other out.. I like seeing the occasional post about issues that don't relate to problems tech wise, and I think discussions on the direction of linux in general very important considering its opposition, a concerted front is a good thing.. Also, if linux is to make it mainstream, then the last thing we need to broadcast, is the kind of posts that you put up, that is basically telling newbies that you are not interested in anything that they have to say, which is sad because they are newbies for the most part, that means they don't have anything else to say except to ask questions... Deal with it, if you want a more straight down the line mailing list, join Redhat (and get flamed down for the simplest of questions.), or the developer list. I for one welcome the newbies comments as only a newbie can tell you how to make something easy and intuitative. an expert is usually to familiar with the code to know if its easy or hard for a newbie.. In relation to this specific message, I didn't even know there was a Linux Lunacy 7 day cruise so I learned somthing from it... and he has my congrats also on the marrage... (have you ever read a feel good story? ) Get a life, like anything in life, this is creavet emptor, Buyer beware... if you don't like the message, delete them... its really much easier then you think, in fact its easier and with less keystrokes then the message you wrote back. also, anyone who would begrudge a person announcing their marrage and then post back calling it crap is a very self involved individual. You obviously spend to much time in front of your PC, go outside, in the sunshine, smile at someone, pat a dog, take deep breaths... whatever does it for you, but for gods sake, relax... you'll live longer. Linux needs helpful, supportive, cooperating people in its corner. Not selfish pontificating assholes(I am not saying you are one of these, just that your last post paints you that way.) having said that, thankyou for your post I am sure you will get floods of people happy to help you out the next time you have a problem. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A. Punch Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 3:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy brown1302 wrote: WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH LINUX NEWBIE PROBLEMS!! THERE ARE OTHER VENUES FOR THIS CRAP ___ I'm sure there are other venues for *this* kind of crap that you have posted as well. oh, by the way, your headlights are on. maybe your batteries are running down and your congratulatory modules require more power. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 - Original Message - From: d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy LURKER here, Congrats. A little word of advice, I am sure you never have had any nor will you from any others. When my wife and I married 38 years ago we made an agreement that this was more than a marrage, it is a partnership and any decisions made that effected both would be agreed upon by both. We have always discussed thingys first then made our decision and went forward with that. Worked for us. Hope you have as GREAT a luck as we have. Never go to sleep without the I Love You closing. At 02:57 PM 8/26/01, you wrote: Just curious - anyone going on the Linux Lunacy 7 day cruise in the Caribeaan? (sp?). Its in October, and my fiance' and I are going to use it for a honeymoon, -'Nix- style! Somebody congratulate me, the date is October 19th! ;- -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com TIA, 'd' Don Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Antonio, Texas -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go
[newbie] Well....
Ummm, I did ask what is in /etc/hosts--we have not looked at that file If it doesn't have the right stuff there, it also could frustrate your resolver. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] just wondering
I have heard some remarks like; lets get back to discussing *Linux related topics*, Okay, my bad.. to be honest, i am quite enjoying the discussion. Jamie Adams Housing Assistant - Tel: (01723) 507543 Fax: (01723) 355862 -- From: Charles Punch[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 August 2001 15:08 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] just wondering File: message.txt Francis J Keller wrote: I thought this was a technical support list for people trying to learn the mandrake systems not worrying about where they post thier replies s wrote: To some people it is. To others, it's a place to learn about Linux Mandrake, but not specifically restricted to technical support. I have heard the history and social context of various open source and Linux related topics discussed, which I personally find of interest. This seems to tick some people off. I have heard some remarks like; lets get back to discussing *Linux related topics*, when in fact that particular thread did not even start out on a technical topic (although it was defintely Linux related). There is also another group. Those who have a certain amount of experience in these areas and forget that this is a newbie list. These guy's seem to brag a lot about what they know and try to make newbies look foolish. Some of these occasionally resort to name calling. If someone can't form a logical progression in communicating with another human being, then their advice about how to communicate with a computer is probably suspect as well. Fortunately, there is yet another group (thank God), who are very experienced (experts). They are very patient with newbies and sefishly devote a lot of time and effort to help people out with problems. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 On Thursday 23 August 2001 07:32 pm, Charles Punch wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2001 07:49 pm, Matt Greer escribió: This list is doing a good job cracking down on html, now if only we could do the same for top posters. What is the problem with top posting. It seems to me that usually it is the only way to keep the message in context (especially if everyone else on the thread is doing it that way) Shouldn't consistency be more appropriate than having a war over which end to crack your eggs on? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Actually I find it quite annoying if following a thread to have to scroll to the bottom of each and every post. I like top posting, but I usually follow suit with what the thread is doing. If I'm the first replier, then it depends if I'm posting throughout, tho due to the repeat of this conversation I mostly try bottom posting. I wouldn't want to fart in public or use the wrong fork... -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Default monitor best
hmm, i had the same problem on X install. It detected two graphics cards (i only have one), and one of them was the Oxygen card, erm which i dont have. I say problem, but it isnt really, Mandrake runs quite happily thinking i have two. Jamie Adams Housing Assistant - Tel: (01723) 507543 Fax: (01723) 355862 -- From: Kirby Urner[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2001 16:04 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Default monitor best File: message.txt When I installed MDK8.0 it gave me a generic super VGA monitor. Thought I'd be clever and tell it I had a Viewsonic 17G (cuz that's what I've got). Something in the synch settings didn't work. Good-bye X, hello trying to find the silly .conf file (or reinstall if you're a true newbie (hey it's a fresh Linux anyway)). Oh, and it thinks my video card is an Oxygen something or other. Once I told it the horrible truth, that I have a Rage Fury AGP card. It never spoke to me again after that (so, Oxygen it is). Kirby _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux VPN?
anyone know how to get one of these up and running? i remember seeing a HOW TO somewhere, but all my searching can't find the thing again. i'm looking for either commercial or free (free i would play with at home, commercial at work to sell) or a box premade that does this sort of stuff, just plug and play. these i know are around, but again, i need to know the name of them to find them out :) thanks rand Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What version of gcc do I have?
usually doing command --help will help. Try with gcc - Original Message - From: Isaac Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: [newbie] What version of gcc do I have? How can I tell what version of gcc I have? Or any other program, for that matter? (I'm asking specifically for the command line way to do this) Thanks again, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] religion in linux OT TID
From: Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:45:18 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] religion in linux OT TID This article is pre OS X. I've also never used OS X. I do know from reading about OS X, Apple took a few steps backwards in interface design. In fact earlier in OS X's development Apple was taking so many steps backwards that it caused me to get a PC instead of another Mac. They since fixed a lot of the things they were going to do poorly (but not all of them). Matt Matt, An unreleased OS caused you to switch platforms? Why? I'm not bashing here or anything, but this just strikes me as incredibly strange. I think that if you based all your decisions like that then I'm surprised your using computers at all :) Heh, I just had to erase a whole paragraph here, re-reading it I realised that my now 25 hours of no sleep began to make this message into almost an attack which it defiantly is not. I am using OSX on a few machines here at home and my one at work, I'm also using win 2k on a home built PC, and mandrake linux 8 on an ipaq. All of them have flaws, infact I have reinstalled linux s many times it's not funny (all after clean installs, for the longest time I could not get any networking happening at all, then tried lynx, and suddenly _everything_ was working...reeely strange...but I digress). The only reason I mention all of this is for people to say WOW what a guy... er no, actually it's just me trying to understand that comment :) I think it's just because I hate to see anyone leave the mac platform for whatever reason (my platform of choice over _any_ of the others), but I was not wanting to look like just a typical mac user who has had no experience outside of the comfy mac os. And just to say it, I LOVE OSX ... I'm running xfree86 on it in rootless mode right along side the Aqua stuff, it's great. It has also given me much less problems that linux has. :) OSX is also what got me into the command line, something which I had never touched before, which led to me playing with linux to see what all the fuss was about, and then to here, ahh, heartwarming isn't it :) Now if I could just stop bashing my head against linux trying to get Globecom.net/jukebox installed, This OS would rock. before anyone takes offence at this, remember : SLEEP DEPRIVED :) (tho I'm sure there are a few on this list that will take that 25hours with a beginner! :) rand Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File Renaming Perks: Did someone say 'bash
Adams, Jamie wrote: That was great, much clearer now, thanks! I would very much like to learn bash programming, any suggestions on good resources? Thanks again. Jamie Adams Housing Assistant - Tel: (01723) 507543 Fax: (01723) 355862 Learning the Bash Shell, Newham Rosenblatt (O'Reilly Associates) That's numero uno, and it moves from basic bash functions to programming, and leaves you with a good idea of where to go when you're done. Good luck, Isaac PS: I'm not pretending to be an expert, I'm actually just tackling this book as we speak. I figure a fellow struggler's opinion is valuable in its own right, though. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] OT open-source software is good enough for Microsoft
Thanks! ReactOS looks quite interesting. The OpenWindows site didn't have anything on it. I can't help from wondering, however, that their energies could have been better spent helping a project like WINE. After all, ReactOS is designed for NT4 compatibility, and NT4 isn't exactly the most recent OS on the planet. On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:09, Jim Dawson wrote: Also check out: OpenWindows http://www.owpcentral.com ReactOS http://www.reactos.com -Original Message- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:40:59 +1000 Subject: Re: [newbie] OT open-source software is good enough for Microsoft On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:22, Tim Holmes wrote: I think it's been basic knowledge for some time, that the Windows kernel was an adapted BSD kernel. They've never really tried to prove they did or didn't. No, the Windows kernel is not based on UNIX at all. The Windows NT core was a fork from OS/2 2.x. Microsoft had been developing OS/2 for IBM, and when their partnership ended IBM continued OS/2's development with the Warp series. Now I guess somebody could reverse engineer Windows, but would be illegal, and with the help of DMCA, they'd be shot, hung, and all that good stuff as we've seen demonstrated here lately with the Sklyarov case. I don't know of any other way to prove that they are 100%. If it could be proven that the reverse-engineers had never seen or used any M$ code, then there is nothing illegal. This is why Samba and WINE aren't illegal. But also keep in mind, that FreeBSD, itself, doesn't use GPL, it's under the BSD licensing. And I could be wrong, as I've not done an whole lot of research on this, but just because you have OpenSource software incorporated in your software, you don't have to provide ALL the software to the public, only the OpenSource software needs to be open. But again, I may have this all wrong, maybe somebody else could clear this one up. (To lazy to do any real research on it now. Sorry! lol) The BSD license has few restrictions, the main one being that credit must be given to the authors of the original code. However, the code itself may be modified and used in any way. Derivative works can be closed-source. As far as sueing them? You can sue anybody for anything, but the problem here, is that Micro$HAFT has a small chunk of the Devil's arm in his Legal Department, and most of us have seen the figures of how much money is put into that department. You may end, but it will cost you a Bill Gates sized fortune to do so! William Gates II (Bill's father) is a partner in the most powerful law firm in Seattle, so Bill has had legal connections since Microsoft's beginning. No wonder why he often chooses litigation over innovation. tdh -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Well....
At 10:46 AM 8/28/2001 +0200, you wrote: Ummm, I did ask what is in /etc/hosts--we have not looked at that file The comment about not seeing what I posted was concerning the resolv.conf contents. That file just contains the DNS servers (even after a reboot). If it doesn't have the right stuff there, it also could frustrate your resolver. The hosts file contains the loopback IP and my machine's IP (and their host names). /*===*/ There are three types of lies... lies (You'll never need more than 64K), damn lies (Windows is more stable than Linux), and press releases (It will be released as scheduled). John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) http://www.paddedwall.org/john John Simmons (Barbarian Diecast Collector) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast/diecast_index.html DeMONS/2, Nascar 4 Online Race Scheduler http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 /*===*/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] File Renaming Perks: Did someone say 'bash
That was great, much clearer now, thanks!
I would very much like to learn bash programming, any suggestions on
good resources?
Thanks again.
Jamie Adams
Housing Assistant
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Subject: Re: [newbie] File Renaming Perks: Did someone say 'bash
File: message.txt
This is a newbie list right? [okay, good] I don't want to be too
embarassed to ask a stuped question. Would someone be willing to
explain what this does? I mean each character has significance, right?
So what is it? This reminds me of the random characters thrown up on
my screen after disconnecting from the old BBS.
or apl :)
Well, I'll take a stab at it - but I would think that there is a
cleaner way to write this.
At 08:34 PM 8/22/2001 -0700, you wrote:
for i in `ls /dirname | grep -e.+ .+`; do mv $i `echo $i |
gawk '{ gsub(_, ,$0) }'` ; done
Well, the 'for i in ' ... construct is going to do something for every
member of the list. For instance:
for i in 'apple pear peach'
do
echo i ate a $i
done
Well, that would print out:
i ate a apple
i ate a pear
i ate a peach
So, the for iterates over lists, rather than taking on a series of
sequential values (as in basic and other programming languages).
Stuff in ` ` (back quotes) get interpreted and substituted right into
the command line. In other words, another process is going out and building
the list that the for is going to use. I'm not certain about the grep -e
.+ .+ part - but it would appear the object is to get a list of files,
and ls -l returns a long list of those. One of course can simplify this to
for i in `ls` or eevn for i in *, which returns all files in the directory -
try 'echo *' at your shell sometime.
So, if we simplify the first construct, it is going to present a new
filename from the directory and iterate over the full list of files, so
something will be done to each file name. The something is in the next
line - the 'mv $i `...` part. Here we also have another use of backquotes:
the intent is to take the filename we're currently using ($i), and do some
awk processing on it. Using 'tr' would be far simpler :). The result of
the awk processing is then put on the command line, which becomes the
new filename for the 'mv' command.
Dean
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Re: [newbie] Linux VPN?
- Original Message - From: rand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Linux VPN? anyone know how to get one of these up and running? i remember seeing a HOW TO somewhere, but all my searching can't find the thing again. http://www.linux.com/howto/mini/VPN.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Well....
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 12:26, John Simmons wrote: At 10:46 AM 8/28/2001 +0200, you wrote: Ummm, I did ask what is in /etc/hosts--we have not looked at that file The comment about not seeing what I posted was concerning the resolv.conf contents. That file just contains the DNS servers (even after a reboot). If it doesn't have the right stuff there, it also could frustrate your resolver. The hosts file contains the loopback IP and my machine's IP (and their host names). Ok the remaining thing is the nameserver IPs--you can ping them? Are they the nameservers for your ISP? Here is what I read ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: DNS1.rr.com.172800 IN A 24.30.200.3 DNS2.rr.com.172800 IN A 24.30.201.3 DNS3.rr.com.172800 IN A 24.30.199.7 DNS4.rr.com.172800 IN A 65.24.0.172 You might try an odd one in front of your list, like 199.191.129.139 just for testing purposes. Civileme /*===*/ There are three types of lies... lies (You'll never need more than 64K), damn lies (Windows is more stable than Linux), and press releases (It will be released as scheduled). John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker) http://www.paddedwall.org/john John Simmons (Barbarian Diecast Collector) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast/diecast_index.html DeMONS/2, Nascar 4 Online Race Scheduler http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 /*===*/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in?
Mohammed Arafa wrote: u guys probably got gmc on autostart (find and erase) OR most likely, u once ran gmc then quit kde with the option to save ur session as is so as to resume it next boot. u can 1. kill the gmc process (that should also kill the gnome icons) then save ur sessions 2. somewhere in the kde control panel is the same save sessions options but i cant for the life of me remember where I have already turned off the save session option. I have also already killed the GMC process(if you mean using Xkill). The autostart is something to check out though. I'm not sure where it is, but I'm sure it can't be too hard to find. Thanx for sharing the info. Thanx also for being clear, to the point and not assuming that I have any previous knowledge in this area. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kde2.2 broke Konqueror Flash plugin
Morning, folks! So my upgrade to KDE 2.2 went reasonably well--a few minutes hunting down dependencies, and a deep breath as I did a --force on a couple of things, and then by god I'd booted into KDE 2.2. I'm getting to be pretty good at this stuff! ;-D The only thing that seems to have broken in the process is the Flash Netscape plugin for Konqueror, which used to work great. Now, though, Konq freezes hard before rendering any page that contains flash and 'kill -9' is the only way out. Any thoughts? Should I just refresh the nsplugins package? Is there an update to nsplugins for kde 2.2 that I maybe didn't get? -- Dan Ray Director Custom Applications Triangle Research, Inc. http://www.triangleresearch.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
Durons are different chips from Athlons, with a different core specifically designed for the low-end of the market. This results in a low-cost, fast CPU, that competes well with Celerons and PIIIs. A Duron is usually about 90% as fast as a similarly-clocked Athlon, whereas a Celeron is about 70-80% as fast as a similarly-clocked PIII. The Celeron, OTOH, is a PIII with half of the L2 cache disabled. In other words, a Celeron is a crippled PIII. Defective PIIIs are often turned into Celerons. If you don't have much money, buy a Duron. You can even buy two and have a low-cost SMP system, using a motherboard with the new AMD SMP chipsets. On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:46, Robert MacLean wrote: The T-Bird has more level 1 and level 2 cache than the Duron. Otherwise they are exactly the same. But because of the extra cache (espcially the level 1) the CPU does go a lot faster. Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Doug X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please Hi everyone, I am considering upgrading my MB and CPU and would like to know which would be a better choice for LM8. I am looking for AMD Duron 900 - 1GHz or Athlon T-bird 1GHz. and maybe Microstar K7T Turbo or GigaByte GA-7ZXR-C I am a student with not so much $, so I am looking for CPU under $150CDN and MB under $240CDN. My current hardware that will go in the new system is SCSI PCI for HP6300C, ATI 4MB PCI(just for now), Ethernet PCI for SHAW. Would anyone recommend a combination of this hardware or something more appropriate for LM8, please. Is there any benefit to choosing T-Bird over Duron? Thank you in advance, Doug -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xemacs vs. emacs vs. vi
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 06:12, Randy Kramer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm starting to do pretty much everything from the command line now, to the point that I don't even touch XWindows for most of the day. While this is cool and exciting, I'm curious as to people's opinions on what text editor I should use for programming, file editing, etc. I'd just like to cast a vote for nedit. It has syntax highlighting (for many languages), soft word wrap (they call it continuous word wrap), and macros, and, if you're from windows, it just seems more comfortable than vi or emacs. Kedit is nice too, and there are others, but nedit had more of the features I wanted. Hope this helps, Randy Kramer Speaking of soft word wrap, does anybody know of any good (fast, small memory footprint, decent feature set, etc.) GUI editors that employ this feature? Kedit and Kwrite don't, and Gedit inherits GTK's weird (to me, anyway) method of doing soft word wrap (try it and see :). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
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Re: [newbie] tar.bz2 -- how to uncompress?
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 03:30, Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I've been trying to uncompress the Kate Editor tar.bz2. Would appreciate it if you someone could lend a helping hand. What's the magic command, please? Thank you so much. Benjamin tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2 Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Not prompted for other cd's during installation
I had the same problem as you. On a pentium 120mhz 32mb ram, the install didn't ask for the second cd. I did run mandrake but many applications were missing and software manager wouldn't run on such low resources. On a duron 750mhz 256mb ram, I had no such problem. I guess there's no way around it. Just install manually what you need on your old box. Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] banged on their keyboard and produced the following arrangement of letters: - I'm reinstalling 7.2 on a pretty old box (Eve - 266 MHz PII, 32MB Ram, junker - Everex Monitor, etc) and I am not getting asked whether or not I have the other - cds (I have the boxed version with 7 cds). I started an install on the - computer right beside it (Speedy Gonzalez - 866MHz PIII, 256 MB Ram, etc) and - I got prompted about the other cds right off without any trouble. So my - problem is I can't install all the packages and software I want and need - because it doesn't ask me for the other cds that are ready and waiting to be - used. Two points of note: - - 1. It did the same thing the first time I installed it (on Eve, Speedy was - and has always been fine), I just want to take advantage of this reinstall to - get it right. (original install was a week or so ago, for what it's worth) - - and 2. I get warned about being low on system resources at the beginning of - the install, but I completed it with the graphical installation when I - originally installed the system, even tested X a few times without ever - hanging. I can go through a text install but I don't get prompted for it there - either. - - Any ideas? - - Regards, - Isaac - - - - We are convinced that freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, - and that socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality. - - - Mikhail Bakunin (www.infoshop.org/faq) - - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What version of gcc do I have?
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:51:31 -0400 Isaac Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment: How can I tell what version of gcc I have? Or any other program, for that matter? (I'm asking specifically for the command line way to do this) Thanks again, Isaac gcc --version w/o quotes, from a terminal HTH, Mike -- You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. - Frank Zappa _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:46, Charles A. Punch wrote: Mohammed Arafa wrote: u guys probably got gmc on autostart (find and erase) OR most likely, u once ran gmc then quit kde with the option to save ur session as is so as to resume it next boot. u can 1. kill the gmc process (that should also kill the gnome icons) then save ur sessions 2. somewhere in the kde control panel is the same save sessions options but i cant for the life of me remember where I have already turned off the save session option. I have also already killed the GMC process(if you mean using Xkill). The autostart is something to check out though. I'm not sure where it is, but I'm sure it can't be too hard to find. Thanx for sharing the info. Thanx also for being clear, to the point and not assuming that I have any previous knowledge in this area. If you haven't already, try killing gmc and other unwanted processes, enabling the save session on exit, and then exiting KDE (to save your session). Then go back into KDE and disable the save session on exit option. The next time you want to load GMC, load it as gmc --nodesktop to tell it not to manage your desktop. For Nautilus, load it as run-nautilus --no-desktop. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Init process
Hi, After installing InterBase for Linux in Mandrake 8.0, I would like to make it a service that runs as start up. It's not clear to me where should I put the initialization command (as if it were an autoexec.bat, excuseme for the old DOS slang). Should I put it in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file ? Should I put a link in the /etc/rc.d/rcX.d to start stop the service? (where X stands for the run level i.e. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6) Thanks in advance Aldo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mouse wheel kde 2.2
Es Dimarts 28 Agost 2001 02:38, en Bill va escriure: On Tuesday 28 August 2001 07:10 am, Joan Tur wrote: Es Dilluns 27 Agost 2001 16:16, en skinky va escriure: On Tuesday 28 August 2001 13:07, you wrote: Hallo! After upgrading to kde 2.2 i've noticed that both kmail v.1.3 and galeon v.0.12 move 1 page down each wheel's click. Konqueror and NS4.77 work fine with this moving 1 line down each click 8-? Under Galeon's settings i can change this but nothing happens... Thanks!! You could try changing the mouse scroll settings KDE Control Center Peripherals Mouse Advanced tab Mouse Wheel Scrolls By Might work. Thanks for your answer... no luck 8( Default was 3 but i see no change using 2 and 1 (and restarting kde+xfree between changes)... thanks anyway Could it be imwheel running that is causing the problem? If so i don't know how to make Galeon and Kmail work fine 8( -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File set up
At 12:13 PM 08/27/2001 -0400, Scott Parks wrote: Just a simple question, how are most of you setting up your file systems for install? After some experimentation I settled on this: /dev/hda1 / 8 Gb /dev/hda3 /boot 50Mb (You can get away with much less , of course, but if you cut it too fine you might get stuck on the next upgrade) /dev/hda2 /home 19 GB (contains a dummy user called clasqm which is mostly storage space for oggs, graphics, videos etc) /dev/hda5 /var 500 Mb (but that space-hogging /var/cache/grpmi directory is symlinked to a directory in /home/michel) /dev/hdb1 /home/clasqm/bkup 2.5 Gb /dev/hdd5 /home/michel 12 GB (And now that you know my main username you can hit the dumpster to look for my password. That was the idea, wasn't it? g) /boot is ext2 and hdb is FAT; everything else is Reiser. hdc is the cdrom (I know, I know, but there was a problem running it as slave). I also have 256 Mb swap on each of hda and hdd. I used to have a separate /tmp, but it filled up real quick when I started ripping my cd collection to wav before encoding to ogg, and then all of a sardine it refused to rip any further with not a word of explanation ... I'm not claiming this is ideal, and I'll probably tinker with it some more when mdk 8.1 comes out. But it serves me well so far. As I understand it, one big / is not advisable. / and /home really is the minimum if you value your data. As always, open to correction. -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE and Gnome when I log in?
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 12:46, Charles A. Punch wrote: I have already turned off the save session option. I have also already killed the GMC process(if you mean using Xkill). The autostart is something to check out though. I'm not sure where it is, but I'm sure it can't be too hard to find. /home/your_account/Desktop/Autostart Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] qmail on mandrake?
Hi all! Let me start by aplologizing if this mail is HTML encoded... GUI mail clients suck! I recently tried to get qmail running on my 7.2 MDK box, and ran into a few snags... I found this site, where I downloaded MDK RPMs. http://www.freezer-burn.org/pages.php?page=qmail+under+Mandrake+Linux I got them all installed with no errors. But after attemting to start qmail I get this error: @40003b8a8c342236cbf4 alert: cannot start: unable to switch to queue directory So I ran some searches and found other people that had this problem. Some reccomended to use queue-repair. I tried that and it made a bunch of changes, but I still see this error... Any tips? Should I be installing from the source? Thanks -ed- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mandrakeupdate
hi every body. here is the problem: i installed lm8, and mandrakeupdate wouldn't work. (wouldn't fetch server list for updates) i looked through the old messages about that and found where civileme said: do a rpm --rebuilddb, that should do the trick well i did it because civileme is always right. and, must have been my unlucky day, he was wrong (in mycase anyway). now it is well and trully broken. here is what i get when trying to open it from konsole: MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkmdk-0.1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory now, how do i trace what that is and what package to reinstall? help Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
OT sorry Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy....
Yes no need to be mean, just use your K mail filters if you don't like it, I use mine all the time. Sorry not to be mean myself, just a suggestion. On Monday 27 August 2001 04:25 pm, so spoke skinky: On Tuesday 28 August 2001 07:11, you wrote: WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH LINUX NEWBIE PROBLEMS!! THERE ARE OTHER VENUES FOR THIS CRAP Don't get too wrapped up in your *newbie problems*... GET A LIFE! Have a nice day. skinky _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Fwd: Linux for stupid newbies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Someone in Central America saw my linux links webpage and asked for advice. see anything in the hardware below that would preclude using Mandrake 8.0? - - -- Look what the cat dragged in: -- (snip) * Is more stable than Win 95 SR2 (what I use now, which seems to be the least unstable member of the Windows family) * Will run fine on my current hardware (Celeron 366 MHz w/32MB RAM) * Free or extremely cheap, both the OS and apps * Can have a Windows look alike GUI so my cybercafé's customers will not have to ask for help or even notice that it's not Windows * The time I invest installing and learning a new OS will be less than the time I now waste messing with Windows' instability and quirks (snip) - - -- Charles Oriez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 34' 34.4N / 105 00' 06.3W ** Oh come now. At least pretend to be scared. The media spent millions trying to psyche you up for this - User Friendly, 08/01/01 on the Code Red virus scare - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBO4vkYX+bkeP849+WEQKqsQCghwzlTa6MSlrxotkjp4y+vT+mXPgAn0mz RPK9Kqghf+gBi2THM1E/98P9 =lOSe - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBO4vnbn+bkeP849+WEQICGwCfY7czYGkUpcps8QH4UTi+tQO4StYAoLEq V+Gz0Enzi7iuJG/w08iXy24O =RmOP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] What is Winbond?
Ever since I started using 8.0, under 3 different machines: Gigabyte MB/475 mhz K6-III Soyo MB/850 mhz Duron Shuttle MB/900 mhz Athlon Winbond shows up in dmesg and at the logon screen. (I'm using an Nvidia card so I don't use the graphical logon) from logon: it fills the screen with various messages about super IO detection and such. So...what is it exactly, why does it appear at my logon prompt, is it anything to worry about, and can I get rid of it? ;-))) Thanks in advance! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xemacs vs. emacs vs. vi
Does anybody have an Emacs quick reference file? If you do, please share. TIA, Jen On Monday 27 August 2001 17:25, you wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2001 04:34, Paul wrote: In reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s words, written Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:01:00 -0400 (EDT) a few days and it seems to me that vi is a lot easier thus far. The CTRL-D/DEL thing in emacs is a real hassle. I know that vi is intended for C programming and emacs for command interpreting/bash programming, so is it best for me to use both? What are the advantages of each tool under different circumstances? Pick one and stick with it. Some like vi, some like emacs. And some like gedit/nedit/whatever. I think it is good to have a choice, figure out what's the best for you, and then use it :) Paul Hmmm, well the ingredients of a jihad have we when first we seek to compare and contrast emacs and vi. emacs has a more complex command structure and a MUCH better tutorial as well as bindings for many languages that gives you auto-indent, color-coding, and even function stubs. As an editor it is not for speed typists so much as for folks who concentrate on content. On the typical power outage crash your loss in emacs will be the last two words typed or so. For vi, it may be larger. Actually you cannt really compare the two. Emacs can do shell things and help you debug programs without ever getting out of the dark slate gray (that sure looks pine green to me) screen while vi cannot. Whether this is an advantage or disadvantage is a matter of taste, but I can tell you this-- You can run X with just an xterm and you can call vi from it and you have to exit to the xterm to do bash things, but you can run emacs as a window manager/desktop environment and you can read mail and browse th web and debug without ever exiting. vi was designed as a great improvement over the older blind text editors like ed and ex which were really designed for efficiency on a teletype style terminal. I remember using it and thinking how much better it was, then I ran into MINCE (Mince Is Not Complete Emacs) and never looked back. vi has more than one mode which some like and some hate. When you come to the decision, it is a matter of taste. There are also others out there, like joe which can be emacs-like or pico-like or wordstar-like, and jed, which also can customize bindings. Look at each of them a little while, learn how to change their styles, then go get nano of nedit and look at them. An editor is a personal choice. Cooledit is liked by some as well, and SIAG offers xedplus to further confuse the issue, then if you want language independence or internationalizaion capabilities the one to use is yudit. Forget it, it's too complicated to decide. Break out your Ada manual and write one that can't be buffer overflowed, and make it your very own :-D Civileme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include wisdom.h void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What is Winbond?
Winbond is the chipset on alot of different add-in boards. Printer ports usually have them along with some sound cards and 3rd party Hard-Drive controller cards(I think SIIG uses them). Don't worry you don't have to use Wynderz in order to use the device or card. Basically that Winbond message is says yea, this thing is working fine, unless you see it followed by a red [FAILED] over on the right side of the screen or some arcane cryptic spew that looks alot like the stuff your printer spits out when not set up properly. Hope this was helpful. T H A N K Y O U James R. McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:55 PM Subject: [newbie] What is Winbond? Ever since I started using 8.0, under 3 different machines: Gigabyte MB/475 mhz K6-III Soyo MB/850 mhz Duron Shuttle MB/900 mhz Athlon Winbond shows up in dmesg and at the logon screen. (I'm using an Nvidia card so I don't use the graphical logon) from logon: it fills the screen with various messages about super IO detection and such. So...what is it exactly, why does it appear at my logon prompt, is it anything to worry about, and can I get rid of it? ;-))) Thanks in advance! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux Lunacy....
I add my warmest congradulations too! May your future be filled with happiness and joy together! Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of poogle Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy Sorry for top posting :-)) but I couldn't resist. This is the newbie mailing list, not the newbie problems mailing list if you've got a problem with us congratulating a fellow member on his forthcoming marriage then the problems you have got are not Linux or Mandrake related, you need another kind of help. And I add my warmest congratulations as well ! On Monday 27 August 2001 15:11, you wrote: WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH LINUX NEWBIE PROBLEMS!! THERE ARE OTHER VENUES FOR THIS CRAP - Original Message - From: d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Lunacy LURKER here, Congrats. A little word of advice, I am sure you never have had any nor will you from any others. When my wife and I married 38 years ago we made an agreement that this was more than a marrage, it is a partnership and any decisions made that effected both would be agreed upon by both. We have always discussed thingys first then made our decision and went forward with that. Worked for us. Hope you have as GREAT a luck as we have. Never go to sleep without the I Love You closing. At 02:57 PM 8/26/01, you wrote: Just curious - anyone going on the Linux Lunacy 7 day cruise in the Caribeaan? (sp?). Its in October, and my fiance' and I are going to use it for a honeymoon, -'Nix- style! Somebody congratulate me, the date is October 19th! ;- -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com TIA, 'd' Don Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Antonio, Texas -- - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- Poogle Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those irritated by it) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] c porgramming
In reply to pepe's words, written Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:25:20 -0500 what are th edifferences in hte programation in C in a windows compiler and in linux... i got errors when compiling a porg in linux. help MS-C perhaps. They have their own little thingies. Very not compliant with mainstream C... Paul -- There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rsync return value
thanks civileme, this might make things a little trickier :-) i shall have to investigate, but first: sleep bascule On Sunday 26 August 2001 5:10 am, you wrote: On Saturday 25 August 2001 06:00, bascule wrote: does anyone know if there is a return value when running rsync that i can use in a script that i want to write that will update my local copy of cooker and then run urpmi.addmedia --update but only if rsync changes anything make sense? i've just started reading up on shell scripts, i don't know how to find out this info about progs bascule just in general bash programs return a 0 on success and some other number on failure However this would not tell you if anything was added or not. You might have to parse the tail of a log file for that information. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] downloaded packages stored where?
Hi all, Could some kind person please enlighten me as to where Software Manager stores downloaded update packages? I want to reinstall LM8.0 so I'm backing everything up to another drive but I can't for the life of me find the packages that I've updated via Software Manager. TIA skinky _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar.bz2 -- thanks!
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 05:36 am, Benjamin Sher escribió: Thanks to all of you who wrote in with the magic command for uncompressing tar.bz2 files. The two commands in question are: tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2 tar xvif filename.tar.bz2 Another, Since you're using Kmail, I'll asume you're usin KDE. R-Click on the .bz2 file and choose to open with Karchiver. This will then let you choose a directory to extract the files to. Presto! Any kind of archive, even Windoze zips, automagically ;) Otherwise if you want to use the CL, I suggest you see 'man tar', 'cause the 'i' switch in one of the two commands you're contemplating will: -i, --ignore-zeros ignore blocks of zeros in archive (normally mean EOF) while the 'j' switch will: -j, --bzip filter the archive through bzip2 which is what I reckon you want to do Benjamin -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Dialup Connection
Am very new to linux. (all attempts having failed previously) Have installed Mandrake 8.0 It wont go online although I've entered all the parms for my adsl modem. Strangely the install never prompted me for a phone number for the dial-up and it doesn't recognise my 57k Conexant modem either. Obviously I've gone astray somewhere even though I've re-installed, looking for the opportunity to enter a phone number. Also cannot find how to effect a dial-up connection from within KDE. (was thinking that this approach might demand a phone number). Original System: 2 machine lan, win98. Have made one machine dual booting win98/Mandrake8.0. Used Mandrake's default auto install. Linux install has spotted the nic card. I am wondering if now expects me to connect over the lan without dialling up. - Just a newbie guess. Any advice appreciated. Dave S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dialup Connection
LURKER here, I have just a regular dialup connection and when I clicked on the kppp and the box appears there was a button called SetUp and that is all I used. Maybe the 'adsl' requires different method of setting thingys up, but; that is all I did. I am a very NEWBY as well, have had the software for about a year but only worked with it for about 2-3 days total time over that period, so be gentle with me, PLEASE? TIA, 'd' [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Antonio, Texas At 06:42 PM 8/28/01, you wrote: Am very new to linux. (all attempts having failed previously) Have installed Mandrake 8.0 It wont go online although I've entered all the parms for my adsl modem. Strangely the install never prompted me for a phone number for the dial-up and it doesn't recognise my 57k Conexant modem either. Obviously I've gone astray somewhere even though I've re-installed, looking for the opportunity to enter a phone number. Also cannot find how to effect a dial-up connection from within KDE. (was thinking that this approach might demand a phone number). Original System: 2 machine lan, win98. Have made one machine dual booting win98/Mandrake8.0. Used Mandrake's default auto install. Linux install has spotted the nic card. I am wondering if now expects me to connect over the lan without dialling up. - Just a newbie guess. Any advice appreciated. Dave S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] resizing partitions
I've decided to give LM8.0 a try as a dual-boot system (previously I'd been swapping HDs to keep it separate from win). How much risk is involved in trying to resize my fat32 partition (using the LM8 install program)? I have an IBM Deskstar 30GB drive (IDE) on a T-bird system. I've backed up pretty much everything, but I'd still prefer not to lose anything if I can help it. If something does happen, I guess it's not a really big deal. I'm planning on reformatting and reinstalling win anyway -- 'just don't want to do it now. Thanks in advance for any advice. Jeremy _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing a Diamond FireGL1 video adapter
Hi all, I'm trying to install a Diamond FireGL1 video adapter but I keep running into an error during the Install.sh script. The error is something about strings command not supported. It appears this is the offending line: tmp=`strings $LibcPath | grep -i 'c library'`. Any Ideas? Thanks Bryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.4.9 problems
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 07:53 am, Seeun William Umboh escribió: htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV Please don't post in HTML. You were requested not to when you joined this list. I tried to compile the kernel 2.4.9 from kernel.org and met with mixed results. I don't understand the propensity, specially with newbies to try and use plain vanilla kernel.org source to compile kernels. Not meant to be derogatory. I really don't understand the thinking. The latest and greatest source on kernel.org is barely beta, more like alpha quality code. It's meant for testing. There's Mandrake source and headers, even precompiled kernels available for all but the very latest kernel versions that include Mandrake specific options and patches. If 2.4.9 hasn't shown up yet, it's probly for very good reason it's not ready yet. It's difficult enough for experienced users to try building kernels from vanilla source because the patches needed for the various Mandrake specific options, or any options for that matter, aren't included. These patches need to be applied, otherwise... Good way to break your system. Mandrake puts a lot of effort into providing Mandrake compatible kernels. Currently the latest kernels available for Mandrake are various 2.4.8-12 versions. I believe there's also a 2.4.7 kernel just now available, that's been tested and is available for Mandrake users using MandrakeUpdate (Software Manager). Be warned tho that no kernels past 2.4.6 have supermount support. Supermount is currently being rewritten for 2.4.x kernels. My experience is that it's been havin problems since 2.4.3. Also, if you have added binary only applications or hardware drivers, changing kernels, even Mandrake kernels, may (probly will) break support for those programs and devices. For newest kernels look on any cooker mirror http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 For some help with installing kernels, study the complete tutorial, including trouble shooting at http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/install/#1st -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How do I read Aurora error messages?
Okay, I'm getting the frowning face when I bootup and shutdown. I ran kudzu as root to see if it was something hardware related but it found nothing. Also, I did a dmesg dmesg.txt and found nothing unusual there. Can anyone tell me where to look to read error messages from Aurora? (that is the name of the fancy loader now, right?) Thanks much! PS I thought it might have been where I pulled my 56x CD-ROM. It was only about 45 days old and quit working. Still under warranty, but I had to yank it to send it back. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mplayer
I need help, I followed the instructions and this happened, please help me sometiome, thank you. gcc -O4 -march=k6 -mcpu=k6 -pipe -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DCONFIG_MMX -c -o mpeg12.o mpeg12.c mpeg12.c: In function `mpeg_decode_mb': mpeg12.c:594: warning: implicit declaration of function `memset' mpeg12.c: In function `mpeg_decode_frame': mpeg12.c:1445: warning: implicit declaration of function `memcpy' gcc -O4 -march=k6 -mcpu=k6 -pipe -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DCONFIG_MMX -c -o h263dec.o h263dec.c gcc -O4 -march=k6 -mcpu=k6 -pipe -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DCONFIG_MMX -c -o mpegaudiodec.o mpegaudiodec.c nasm -f elf -o i386/fdct_mmx.o i386/fdct_mmx.s make[1]: nasm: Command not found make[1]: *** [i386/fdct_mmx.o] Error 127 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/MPlayer-0.18pre5/libavcodec' make: *** [libavcodec/libavcodec.a] Error 2 [root@kittypuss MPlayer-0.18pre5]# On Saturday 25 August 2001 11:12 am, so spoke Ronald J. Hall: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 24 August 2001 11:12 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan escribió: Here's how I got MPlayer working: 1. Extract the MPlayer tarball and cd into the directory created. 2. Run ./configure --disable-gcc-checking 3. Run make 4. su to root. 5. Run make install. I might try it, but I keep lookin for a Mandrake rpm I know exists, but I've had no luck finding. Somethin that I'm usually pretty good at. To see what I'm refering to search the cooker ML for 'mplayer' http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/ Earlier in this thread wine was mentioned. I've thought that the pertinent Windoze .dll's were ? either present on the Linux system in a dir, or linked to those on your Windoze partition ? If wine is required I'm not gonna even bother with this. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Tom, I didn't use wine for this. From mplayers home page, you can d/l a set of windog codecs. Its a zip file, couple of megs in size, IIRC. Unzip them in someplace like ~/tmp, make a dir in /usr/lib called win32, copy the codecs into it, and add this to mplayers compiling routine: as user: ./configure --disable-gcc-checking --with-win32libdir=/usr/lib/win32 make and as root: make install This worked fine for me, last night I watched a (huge!) AVI file of Final Fantasy the movie, full screen, very nice... Dual booted into Windog, and played it with the divx codecs/media player and could tell no difference in playback. Please note that mplayers web site says that soon the Windoze codecs will be phased out for an (better) open source solution. (can't wait) Hope this helps! ;-) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xemacs vs. emacs vs. vi
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 14:05, jennifer wrote: Does anybody have an Emacs quick reference file? If you do, please share. On my computer I issued the following commands: narfi@/[1042] locate refcard.ps /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/refcard.ps narfi@/[1043] rpm -q -f /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/refcard.ps emacs-20.7-16mdk I.e. the file is called /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/refcard.ps and it came from the rpm package emacs-20.7-16mdk. Provided you have everything installed, you should be able to view it with gv /usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/refcard.ps Best, Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Linux for stupid newbies
on 8/28/01 1:48 PM, Charlie Oriez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see anything in the hardware below that would preclude using Mandrake 8.0? The only reference to hardware I see is the celeron 366/32MB. Which should run linux fine. But he did say he wants it to look Windowslike, and I dunno if I'd run KDE or Gnome with 32MB. I run IceWM on my laptop (with mandrake8.0) that has 32MB of ram, and it's pretty good. Not the most exciting windows manager, but it gets the job done. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] c porgramming
what are th edifferences in hte programation in C in a windows compiler and in linux... i got errors when compiling a porg in linux. help _ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] religion in linux
Try typing about:mozilla in you mozilla address bar. - Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux VPN?
Yes, but I haven't been able to figure that HOWTO out yet. If anyone would like to work with me I'd be overjoyed to get client-side VPN working on linux... I don't think I have enough linux experience to follow that document... -Original Message- From: Dave Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux VPN? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 28 August 2001 09:03 am, thus spake Mark Johnson: Isn't freeswan and poptop server side VPN? What I need (and I think Dave needs) is client side VPN? We have VPN at work running on an NT server, I need to be able to VPN from my linux client at home into work. I have found one web site that address this but wasn't able to get it to work... It appears that there is only about 5 people on the planet earth that wants to VPN from home (linux) to work (windows). Yes, the suggestions I gave were for VPN servers, not clients. But if you read the VPN Masquerade howto, there is some info on Linux client setup. Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7jApcA68l26XsZUYRAiDfAJ9ISTsyD474/09g0CWeAZDNLpwbGACbBquG 5aBDvUTixSCYhvSDcYZLhb0= =L3+o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I read Aurora error messages?
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 14:52, you wrote: Okay, I'm getting the frowning face when I bootup and shutdown. I ran kudzu as root to see if it was something hardware related but it found nothing. Also, I did a dmesg dmesg.txt and found nothing unusual there. Can anyone tell me where to look to read error messages from Aurora? (that is the name of the fancy loader now, right?) Thanks much! PS I thought it might have been where I pulled my 56x CD-ROM. It was only about 45 days old and quit working. Still under warranty, but I had to yank it to send it back. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Ok, you can go into Mandrake Control CenterBootBoot Config and then on the screen select the traditional or traditional gtk monitor. That will list of line by line what is going on in boot up. Or go to runlevel 3 on boot up for a non-graphical boot that will list the same stuff. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 02:46, you wrote: The T-Bird has more level 1 and level 2 cache than the Duron. Otherwise they are exactly the same. But because of the extra cache (espcially the level 1) the CPU does go a lot faster. Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Doug X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please Hi everyone, I am considering upgrading my MB and CPU and would like to know which would be a better choice for LM8. I am looking for AMD Duron 900 - 1GHz or Athlon T-bird 1GHz. and maybe Microstar K7T Turbo or GigaByte GA-7ZXR-C I am a student with not so much $, so I am looking for CPU under $150CDN and MB under $240CDN. My current hardware that will go in the new system is SCSI PCI for HP6300C, ATI 4MB PCI(just for now), Ethernet PCI for SHAW. Would anyone recommend a combination of this hardware or something more appropriate for LM8, please. Is there any benefit to choosing T-Bird over Duron? Thank you in advance, Doug __ _ Visit http://www.visto.com. Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the enterprise with Visto. -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Also, from what I have read the Athlon is easier to keep cool due to a bit more mm of surface area. I.E. less chance of cooking it. Todays prices don't see a lot of difference in the two so I would go with the Athlon. I have a 900 mhz Duron by the way, and no problems. Fast as a Ferrari. Only know their coming out with rocket power, 2ghz Next we'll hear I'm sorry Dave, humans are just too slow and therefor superflous. Goodby : 0 -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] c porgramming
jejeje creo que deberia cuidar mejor tu ingles, si hay diferecias cuando programas en C para windows y para linux en especial con cosas que utilicen cosas que son especificas del sistema. Lo que te sugiero es que consigas alguna buenas pagina sobre programacion en C bajo linux alli encontraras una mejor explicacion que la que yo te pueda dar. hehehe you should take care of your english, yes there is differences between programing C under windows and linux, especially with those things specific to the system. What I suggest is get some good web page about programing C in linux, there you will find better explanation that I can give you. - Original Message - From: pepe torrres [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: [newbie] c porgramming what are th edifferences in hte programation in C in a windows compiler and in linux... i got errors when compiling a porg in linux. help _ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dialup Connection
Hi d Thanks for reply - it's good to know that there is (somewhere) the possibility of a dial up :-) I'm doing something wrong - obviously. If I can say this in a whisper - what is the kppp and where can I find it? See how new I am ! I'm in win98 at moment so can't look yet. Cheers (and regards to Mr Bush) Dave S. After I learn how to install Linux I will be able to Learn Linux and after I learn Linux I will be able to learn how to install Linux. - Original Message - From: d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dialup Connection LURKER here, I have just a regular dialup connection and when I clicked on the kppp and the box appears there was a button called SetUp and that is all I used. Maybe the 'adsl' requires different method of setting thingys up, but; that is all I did. I am a very NEWBY as well, have had the software for about a year but only worked with it for about 2-3 days total time over that period, so be gentle with me, PLEASE? TIA, 'd' [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Antonio, Texas At 06:42 PM 8/28/01, you wrote: Am very new to linux. (all attempts having failed previously) Have installed Mandrake 8.0 It wont go online although I've entered all the parms for my adsl modem. Strangely the install never prompted me for a phone number for the dial-up and it doesn't recognise my 57k Conexant modem either. Obviously I've gone astray somewhere even though I've re-installed, looking for the opportunity to enter a phone number. Also cannot find how to effect a dial-up connection from within KDE. (was thinking that this approach might demand a phone number). Original System: 2 machine lan, win98. Have made one machine dual booting win98/Mandrake8.0. Used Mandrake's default auto install. Linux install has spotted the nic card. I am wondering if now expects me to connect over the lan without dialling up. - Just a newbie guess. Any advice appreciated. Dave S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Graphics Card
On Monday 27 August 2001 02:53 am, you wrote: Hi I personally found that a Geforce 2 MX is the best all round card on the market. It isn't a high end gaming card, but you can still get 50+ FPS in a game which is nice if you need to unwind. The duel head support is also very nice in terms of a do presentations for work, and so is the TV out. the nvidia drivers are amazing and are very simple to setup and use. HTH Greetings, I am considering installing a new video card, and am seeking any advice on what I should look for as far as compatibiliy with LM8 is concerned. I'm not looking for a high end gaming card, just a good solid casual user card that is known to be configurable with LM8. Any suggestions? TIA, stan Thanks very much for the response, Robert. I'm not very familiar with graphics cards, and this info is very helpful. Stan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux VPN?
well . now lets see better make that 6 ...:) -Original Message- From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:04 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux VPN? Isn't freeswan and poptop server side VPN? What I need (and I think Dave needs) is client side VPN? We have VPN at work running on an NT server, I need to be able to VPN from my linux client at home into work. I have found one web site that address this but wasn't able to get it to work... It appears that there is only about 5 people on the planet earth that wants to VPN from home (linux) to work (windows). -Original Message- From: Dave Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux VPN? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 28 August 2001 05:49 am, thus spake rand: anyone know how to get one of these up and running? i remember seeing a HOW TO somewhere, but all my searching can't find the thing again. i'm looking for either commercial or free (free i would play with at home, commercial at work to sell) or a box premade that does this sort of stuff, just plug and play. these i know are around, but again, i need to know the name of them to find them out :) www.freeswan.org - free IPSec VPN poptop.lineo.com - free PPTP VPN http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/VPN-HOWTO.html - VPN howto, using ssh and ppp I have done both freeswan and poptop, but not the one described in the howto. Poptop was easier than freeswan, however, IPSec (freeswan) is generally acknowledged to be more secure than PPTP (poptop). Dave - -- Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit. (No fortification is such that it cannot be subdued with money.) - - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 B.C. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7i5xrA68l26XsZUYRAmRwAJ49bSQ9BnT/x7YMjLSEhg89Y352eQCeLFbv 23wVD/PyOMINZ+MDXo9AB24= =KC27 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 05:20 pm, Dennis Myers escribió: Also, from what I have read the Athlon is easier to keep cool due to a bit more mm of surface area. I.E. less chance of cooking it. Todays prices don't see a lot of difference in the two so I would go with the Athlon. Don't know where that cooler idea came from? Tbird's run hot, hotter than Durons. Bigger caches, more voltage, more wattage, more heat. Facts are any of the newer processors run hot. Adequate cooling is a must for stablility. The cheapest generic heatsink/fans are OK, but the case must be also kept very cool. Intel cpu's run cooler, but they're also much less tolerant of overheating. BUT... Yes, with 1.4 Tbirds selling for $120, and equaling the perfomance of 2 gig Pentium 4's just out. Seems like the best deal, no?. Maybe not. Processor mhz aren't everything. Most all peripheals, including the harddrives still run on the 33.3mhz PCI bus. Despite all the hoopla 'bout D(ouble) D(ata) R(ate) this and DDR that, including AGP , and Win-RAID, and whatever the current advertised fad is ... everything still runs thru the good ol' slow 33.3mhz PCI bus. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Init process
At 01:08 PM 08/28/2001 -0300, you wrote: Hi, After installing InterBase for Linux in Mandrake 8.0, I would like to make it a service that runs as start up. It's not clear to me where should I put the initialization command (as if it were an autoexec.bat, excuseme for the old DOS slang). Should I put it in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file ? Should I put a link in the /etc/rc.d/rcX.d to start stop the service? (where X stands for the run level i.e. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6) Thanks in advance Aldo Aldo, The convention is usually to put the script (with start / stop / restart) in /etc/rc.d/init.d, then put links to it with capital S (for start, I think) or a capital K (if you want to stop it) in the different run-levels. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Not prompted for other cd's during installation
Anguo and Isaac, Usually this is because it is part of a single CD install distributed with a magazine (not always, but usually). If this is the case, and you have a fast enough connection plus a cd burner, download the iso's off the ftp site and burn them to CD. If not, buy them from one of the online e-tailers for cheap ( usually $5 or $6 US). I've installed Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0 on everything from a P75 up to a PII, and it has always asked after the second CD, so it's not because of the hardware. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 10:14 PM 08/28/2001 +0800, you wrote: I had the same problem as you. On a pentium 120mhz 32mb ram, the install didn't ask for the second cd. I did run mandrake but many applications were missing and software manager wouldn't run on such low resources. On a duron 750mhz 256mb ram, I had no such problem. I guess there's no way around it. Just install manually what you need on your old box. Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] banged on their keyboard and produced the following arrangement of letters: - I'm reinstalling 7.2 on a pretty old box (Eve - 266 MHz PII, 32MB Ram, junker - Everex Monitor, etc) and I am not getting asked whether or not I have the other - cds (I have the boxed version with 7 cds). I started an install on the - computer right beside it (Speedy Gonzalez - 866MHz PIII, 256 MB Ram, etc) and - I got prompted about the other cds right off without any trouble. So my - problem is I can't install all the packages and software I want and need - because it doesn't ask me for the other cds that are ready and waiting to be - used. Two points of note: - - 1. It did the same thing the first time I installed it (on Eve, Speedy was - and has always been fine), I just want to take advantage of this reinstall to - get it right. (original install was a week or so ago, for what it's worth) - - and 2. I get warned about being low on system resources at the beginning of - the install, but I completed it with the graphical installation when I - originally installed the system, even tested X a few times without ever - hanging. I can go through a text install but I don't get prompted for it there - either. - - Any ideas? - - Regards, - Isaac - - - - We are convinced that freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, - and that socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality. - - - Mikhail Bakunin (www.infoshop.org/faq) - - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SSL, Webmin and Apache frustrations, help!
Jon, Here's a working .htaccess file deny from all AuthName YourNameHere AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /path/to/userfile.txt AuthGroupFile /path/to/groupfile.txt require group groupname require user user1 user2 user3 satisfy any This also pre-supposes that your apache httpd.conf file has allowoverride enabled for .htaccess files enabled for the directory you are trying to protect. My guess is that the problem lies with not having the require user / require group lines and the deny from all in your .htaccess file, and / or with not having allowoverride set properly in your httpd.conf file. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 09:08 PM 08/28/2001 -0400, you wrote: Ok, I am trying to setup my webserver with webmin, ssl enabled. I have my .htgroup and .htpasswd setup, htgroup has all the users names, .htpasswd has the user name and password, in /var/www/ Then I have .htaccess in /var/www/media/stuff/ so inorder to go beyond stuff users should have to put in a password. Well they don't, it just lets them through. Here is the .htaccess file, have it got it wrong? Obviously..lol AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /var/www/.htpasswd SSLRequireSSL AuthGroupFile /var/www/htgroup SSLVerifyClient none Any help would be apriciated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar.bz2 -- Thanks II
Benjamin, This depends on which version of Mandrake you are using. If you run Mandrake 7.2, the command would be 'tar -xvIf filename.tar.bz2' (without the quotes). If you run earlier versions of Mandrake, they may not support doing it as one step, so the commands would be 'bunzip2 filename.tar.bz2; tar -xvf filename.tar' (without the quotes). With some earlier versions of Mandrake, you could run 'tar -xyvf filename.tar.bz2' and it would work in one step. Finally in 8.x, you'd use 'tar -xvjf filename.tar.bz2' (without the quotes). So, as far as uncompressing it, it all depends on which version of Mandrake you are trying to do it on. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 05:39 AM 08/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: Dear friends: Here is a third command sent by another list member for uncompressing tar.bz2 files. I will try all three later and see which one works. tar -xvvIf filename.tar.bz2 Thanks again, everyone. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde2.2 broke Konqueror Flash plugin
Charles A. Punch wrote: Dan Ray wrote: Morning, folks! So my upgrade to KDE 2.2 went reasonably well--a few minutes hunting down dependencies, and a deep breath as I did a --force on a couple of things, and then by god I'd booted into KDE 2.2. I'm getting to be pretty good at this stuff! ;-D The only thing that seems to have broken in the process is the Flash Netscape plugin for Konqueror, which used to work great. Now, though, Konq freezes hard before rendering any page that contains flash and 'kill -9' is the only way out. Any thoughts? Should I just refresh the nsplugins package? Is there an update to nsplugins for kde 2.2 that I maybe didn't get? I hopr this doesn't twist this thread *too* far off topic. Just a note about NS plugins, which may or may not be relevant. I am not much of a command line person. I do most things from the GUI, but am trying to learn more command line. It just seems that what people say work for them, does not always work on my system, or either (gasp!) I am perhaps not doing something right. I have been trying to get the Macromedia Flash plugins to work for about a month. Countless tries of downloading and following the instructions in the tarball (which are command line instructions). kept getting the message no such file or directory. I copied the path from GMC to make sure I had it entered correctly. Finally, I just did a drag and drop from GMC and Eureka! it works. Must have been something about the path, but I can't figure out exactly what. Could it possibly be a dependancy or something more basic than just a syntax error? I know the info I've given is not much to go on, but I was just looking for perhaps a general direction or something basic, I may have overlooked. Any help will be appreciated. Don't bend over too far backwards helping me on this one, because after all, it is working now. It's just that I would like to know why, for future reference and for general education that may help my weak command line skills. I guess some people are never satisfied. Just so this isn't taken out of context, that last remark was about myself. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Wow, this seems to be the only thing in Linux I actually know anything about. So far I've posted this same thing twice and gotten rave reviews both times, so I'll modify it to refer to flash instead of java (the original topic, same procedure) and just copy-paste... The command line solution can be found on page 98 of Running Linux (Welsh,Dalheimer and Kaufman - O'Reilly Associates) and on page 219 of Linux in a Nutshell (Siever, Spainhour, Figgins and Hekman - O'Reilly). If you don't already have both books I STRONGLY recommend picking them up. Either buy/order them from a locally owned bookstore or, if you don't have the hefty $75 combined price tag, take the five-finger discount at the nearest Borders (the place is less secure than Windows ME) and buy a few magazines back at your hometown shop to support local business. Just please don't actually buy it from one of those lame chains, either order it from your local business (it's probably not in stock) or bring a bookbag to one of the gross box stores. Linux is just one small part of taking power away from corporate assholes that treat their employees and customers like dirt, so try to keep the faith in every aspect of your life possible. Anyway, the command you're looking for is ln. It works as follows: (the #'s are just to signify the root command prompt) # ln [options] sourcename(s) [destination directory] where sourcename(s) is the fully qualified name of the file(s) you want to create links to (in your case libjavaplugin_oji.so) and destination directory is the directory you want the links to appear in (in my case it as /usr/local/mozilla0.9.3/mozilla/plugins, yours will be pretty similar - justmake sure it ends up in /plugins) The option you'll be using will be -s (for symbolic). So, assuming your netscape (dude, get mozilla...) directory were located like mine is, the command would be: # ln -s [your fully qualified libflashplayer.so file] /usr/local/netscape/plugins # ln -s [your fully qualified ShockwaveFlash.class file] /usr/local/netscape/plugins As an example, my fully qualified ShockwaveFlash.class file is /usr/local/flash_linux/ShockwaveFlash.class, so my commands would look like: # ln -s /usr/local/flash_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/netscape/plugins # ln -s /usr/local/flash_linux/ShockwaveFlash.class /usr/local/netscape/plugins Your command would only differ depending on where your netscape and flash folders are located. Anyway, after you install it you should use the simple command ls -l [destionation directory] to see that your symbolic link arrived appropriately. The line for the flash plugin should
Re: [newbie] tar.bz2 -- thanks!
tar xvif filename.tar.bz2 As an fyi, the 'i' (lowercase) option to tar (at least in ver 7.2 of Mandrake): '-i, --ignore-zeros ignore blocks of zeros in archive (normally mean EOF)' This comes from the man page. This is different from 'I' which says: '-I, --bzip2 filter archive through bzip2, use to decompress .bz2 files' in the man pages. So there is a difference. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar.bz2 -- thanks!
while the 'j' switch will: -j, --bzip filter the archive through bzip2 which is what I reckon you want to do Benjamin This of course, will only work in Mandrake 8.0 or later, not in the 7.x series. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
Tom Brinkman wrote: Yes, with 1.4 Tbirds selling for $120, and equaling the perfomance of 2 gig Pentium 4's just out. Seems like the best deal, no?. Maybe not. Processor mhz aren't everything. Most all peripheals, including the harddrives still run on the 33.3mhz PCI bus. Despite all the hoopla 'bout D(ouble) D(ata) R(ate) this and DDR that, including AGP , and Win-RAID, and whatever the current advertised fad is ... everything still runs thru the good ol' slow 33.3mhz PCI bus. Tom, I sort of feel like I know basic hardware stuff, I've built a few of my own comps from scratch and thought I knew the lingo and basic concepts, but when you talk about everything having a 33.3mhz PCI bus what does that mean? Is that the same thing as the 100/133/200/400 mhz bus people talk about on processors/boards? I have a PIII 866 with a 133 bus. Any enlightenment you can dish out is much appreciated. Gratefully, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Targa Notebook 850 PIII Back Server On X
Hi All Try to get mandrake8 to work on my notebook she is a : TARGA PIII 850 with 128 ( 120 coz 8 user for the video card ) and a 20 gb hdd, all chipset are sis ( video sis 630 networks sis 900 ) network and sound work will BUT X will not do this right. she loads up ( does note crash ) but i get a black srceeni press alt ctrl and f1 and it has all loaded right. i'm note sure why she not working :-/ Michael FalzonLast Of The BBs SysopMozy's Swamp BBs Red Dwarf BBshttp://mozysswamp.yi.orgRegistered Linux user #204397
[newbie] Low Resource Window Manager?
Someone just the other day mentioned IceWM as a resource-appropriate window manager for her/his PII 166 with 32 megs. I've got a PII 266 with the same memory and am curious what suggestions people have for window managers that I can use which will allow me to get the most out of what I've got until my 128mb stick arrives in a week or so. Until now I've pretty much just been doing everything from the command line with lynx, pine, vi, and other basic text utilities. Please explain why the window manager you recommend is good on low resources. Also comment on any major pros/cons you can think of. Thanks so much! Learning, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
On Tuesday 28 August 2001 21:00, you wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2001 05:20 pm, Dennis Myers escribió: Also, from what I have read the Athlon is easier to keep cool due to a bit more mm of surface area. I.E. less chance of cooking it. Todays prices don't see a lot of difference in the two so I would go with the Athlon. Don't know where that cooler idea came from? Tbird's run hot, hotter than Durons. Bigger caches, more voltage, more wattage, more heat. Facts are any of the newer processors run hot. Adequate cooling is a must for stablility. The cheapest generic heatsink/fans are OK, but the case must be also kept very cool. Intel cpu's run cooler, but they're also much less tolerant of overheating. BUT... Yes, with 1.4 Tbirds selling for $120, and equaling the perfomance of 2 gig Pentium 4's just out. Seems like the best deal, no?. Maybe not. Processor mhz aren't everything. Most all peripheals, including the harddrives still run on the 33.3mhz PCI bus. Despite all the hoopla 'bout D(ouble) D(ata) R(ate) this and DDR that, including AGP , and Win-RAID, and whatever the current advertised fad is ... everything still runs thru the good ol' slow 33.3mhz PCI bus. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Thought I read that about heat on the overclockers site, maybe I got it backwards. Nope, looked again and just didn't get it right, it's Durons run hotter than thunderbirds. My Bad. At any rate, does that mean that the adverts about 200mhz fsb on some mobo is just smoke and mirrors also? I have a soyo SY-K7VTA PRO that says 200mhz fsb but nothing about PCI bus. S. That shows what all I know about MoBos. Time to start doing some research on Motherboard/Mainboard nomenclature and specs. Still on the learninig curve (steep side) : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SiS 735 chipset/ecs k7s5a motherboard
I read an interesting review on the SiS 735 chipset and how it outperforms the AMD 760 at http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q2/010611/ , I then checked to see if there were any Duron/Athlon motherboards manufactured with the SiS 735 chipset and I came across one made by ECS at http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm. I'm planning on putting together a new machine for myself and I was wondering if anyone had any insight on this chipset and if anybody has had any experience with ECS motherboards and whether I should consider this motherboard/chipset combination. TIA Steve M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Low Resource Window Manager?
Isaac Curtis wrote: Someone just the other day mentioned IceWM as a resource-appropriate window manager for her/his PII 166 with 32 megs. I've got a PII 266 with the same memory and am curious what suggestions people have for window managers that I can use which will allow me to get the most out of what I've got until my 128mb stick arrives in a week or so. Until now I've pretty much just been doing everything from the command line with lynx, pine, vi, and other basic text utilities. Please explain why the window manager you recommend is good on low resources. Also comment on any major pros/cons you can think of. Thanks so much! Learning, Isaac I'm an Xfce fan. I've used all of the small footprint gui's. Blackbox is to minimal for me. Ice is nice, but harder to configure than Xfce. And, the Gnome panel runs really well with Xfce without the resource hogging Gnome WM, if I choose to run it (I don't). I've run Xfce successfully with a P75 and 32 megs. For all my slower machines (233 and below) it's been the best choice. But hey, this is LINUX, man. Try several and form your own opinion. I guarantee there is something that will run on your memory deficient machine that will make you happy. If I remember correctly, Xfce is on your second install disk, and, for some reason, Mandrake chooses to not install it, even when you check the box for all graphical interfaces. You have to look for it and do it yourself. Eryl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Big5 or Mandrake in the land of Formosa.
Hi, Anguo: You are certainly staying long than me on this list. I am less than a week! Last week, I am messed up what is what, and which is which. And now I've re-installed Mandrake 5 times, getting more sense to Mandrake. I think many problems come from KDE 2. And http://kde.linux.org.tw is a good place to stay around KDE's localization. Frank Chen - Original Message - From: Anguo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Big5 or Mandrake in the land of Formosa. (Civileme, if you happen to read this, may you shed some lights on us and reply some of the questions below, as far as MandrakeSoft and chinese support is concerned? Thanks) (I forward this email to the CLE-Faq, TLUG and XCIN mailing lists... there certainly are some people who would be able to clarify some issues). Hi Frank! Frank Chen banged on their keyboard and produced the following arrangement of letters: - I have to admit the fact that Linux is a nice solution for low-level, - low-price server. If one day - I need to build a server, I'll choose Linux too. But I think Linux can be a - nice desktop OS too. - For Taiwan users, the most important thing is the support for Chinese in - every aspect, and then - the look and feel, that is the operations under X's GUI desktop. If both - is supported well, it's - time to introduce Mandrake as the desktop OS to the users. yes. I would like to try RedHat because it is the distro that has been the most actively adapted to local users. I would like to see whether there is a big difference between Mandrake and RedHat as far as chinese support is concerned. For now I only have mandrake installed in my box (no windows at all), so I can't afford to make a mistake. I am trying to develop a proper backup procedure using a bash script. When I have a proper back up, I'll start messing around with my setup. I will probably try to have a triple boot setup with mandrake, redhat and windows (the latter, just in case, and for my wife...). - By the way, I guess you are long enough on the list. Do you know who is in - charge about traditional - Chinese aspect of Mandrake? Not that long. less than 3 months. I don't know if there is anyone at mandrakesoft in charge of chinese support. Civileme would know it, since he works there. The only thing I know is that who are the first person from over here whom I meet on this list. Also, all my questions that were chinese specific (like about xcin) were not answered by anyone on this list (apart from civileme telling me that 8.1 would allow us to print chinese). I post questions about chinese support in local linux lists. - I know CLE played an important role in backing - up Mandrake's Chinese - support before. But I am a little confused at how to delimit them. Does - Mandrake still rely on CLE, or - Mandrake has gone far away from CLE? I am not quite clear yet about CLE and xcin, but I believe that CLE doesn't have anything to do with Mandrake. CLE (Chinese Linux Extension) is an extension that has been developed by a local team for RedHat. There has been a number of RehHat+CLE versions distributed. I believe that CLE has never been adapted to Mandrake. I believe that xcin is a different input method than CLE. Mandrake comes out with xcin. I am not sure though. As I told you, I have not used RedHat+CLE yet. I'll probably install RedHat Chinese Edition... another distribution and I don't know what role CLE plays in it. As you see, I am bit more than confused myself... Be well, Anguo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde2.2 broke Konqueror Flash plugin
--- Isaac Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP. Either buy/order them from a locally owned bookstore or, if you don't have the hefty $75 combined price tag, take the five-finger discount at the nearest Borders (the place is less secure than Windows ME) and buy a few magazines back at your hometown shop to support local business. SNIP What the hell is a five-finger discount? I *HOPE* you mean you go to Borders, buy a coffee and maybe a pastry, sit down in one of those lovely corner sofas and read the excellent Linux references you mention (careful not to get sticky fingers on the pages). You then write notes to yourself on a pad and put the book back on the shelf when you're done. Regards, Ron. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SiS 735 chipset/ecs k7s5a motherboard
hey, im not sure about the motherboard in question, but my next amd machine will run on a board featuring nvidias new chipset for motherboards. yes, nvidia the vid card maker read an excellent overview in Toms Hardware Guide, http://tomshardware.pricegrabber.com/home_catpage.php?catzero=5ut=400c69278 97f8222 look for an article on Nforce chipset. this board is also applicable to the previous thread concerning pci bus speeds and bandwidth definitely a newbie here, i hope this came thru in ascii, i did my best anyone with a linux based opinion on that Nforce chipset please respond. i can build a machine, but i am still ignorant as to linux, installing mandrake sometime this week, if all goes well will be adding it to some dual proc servers and other machines about the house... any comments or warnings are appreciated as such. nathan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [Fwd: Re: Windows Media Player???]
Original Message Subject: Re: Windows Media Player??? Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:25:30 -0500 From: Jeremy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: CodeWeavers, Inc. To: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Benjamin, Forgive the quick and non public response (you're welcome to repost this yourself, I've just got to get packed for a plane trip to LinuxWorld). First, thanks for the kind words. Second, we're working on WMP, but we're concerned about licensing issues (read the EULA on WMP sometime - not good, I'm afraid). IANAL, so I'm taking some time with this one, and I'll try to put something more public up when I have a better story. Thanks, Jer Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Jeremy: Congratulations on your new CodeWeavers plugin. Obvious question: Are you planning to include a plugin for Windows Media Player? Is that in the works? Now that would be a real coup, far more important, I think than Quicktime (though it's wonderful to have Quicktime). Please answer in the Reply to Linux Today. I am amazed that no one asked this question, and I am sure that everyone would like to know the answer to that one. Thank you. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: root login by default - want to terminate
Hi! It seems to me that previously when I used the who module, I only found the login I was using (everything is on one box so I don't require multiple users). Now I find that Root logs on as well as the user. Is there a way to change this so that only my current login is active, and root is not logging in too? I'm using Mandrake 8.0, the regular, full version. Thanks! -warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MandrakeUpdate wont work
I didn't notice any followup postings on this topic...is anyone else having these problems? I sure am. When i add a source it looks like it works but then later disappears. Also, the update for mirror sites doesn't work. What gives?... Thanks for any insight anyone has... Kyle Baker LM-8.0 On Sunday 26 August 2001 02:28 pm, Peter Watson wrote: I've been trying MandrakeUpdate but cant make it work. First it wont update a list of mirror sites. To try and get round this I found the address of an FTP site on Mandrakes web site and input this manually. The adding source thingy seemed to work and the site appeared on the list of sources, but then when I hit ok I just reloaded my CD sources and my new source address had disappeared fom the list of sources. Very grateful for any explanations or suggestions on how to get this working Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde2.2 broke Konqueror Flash plugin
Isaac Curtis wrote: Wow, this seems to be the only thing in Linux I actually know anything about. So far I've posted this same thing twice and gotten rave reviews both times, so I'll modify it to refer to flash instead of java (the original topic, same procedure) and just copy-paste... The command line solution can be found on page 98 of Running Linux (Welsh,Dalheimer and Kaufman - O'Reilly Associates) and on page 219 of Linux in a Nutshell (Siever, Spainhour, Figgins and Hekman - O'Reilly). I've got Running Linux (well woth the money) and heave heard so much lately about Linux in a Nutshell I guess it's time to dig into my pockets again. Sometimes the answer is right under my nose, but it's hard to know where to find the answer, if you don't know where to start. That's usually my problem. There is plenty of documentation out there, but reccomendations about where to find info on a specific topic like in your post help me a lot. (dude, get mozilla...) I was using Mozilla, it worked real good for a couple of months, but suddenly I had some trouble with my mail sending blanks where the body of the text should have been. Strange, but I quit using it for a while and when I went to try it again, it was completely crashed. I don't think it was the latest release though. I really miss it, so I *will* get the new one when I have time. Thanx for the info. Now I have a direction to start out in. Onward through the fog! ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] downloaded packages stored where?
don't know if this has been answered yet.. and I don't know about mdk8, but 7.2 stores the RPMS in /var/cache/grmpi I just burned all my updates to a CD rgds frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of skinky Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 4:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] downloaded packages stored where? Hi all, Could some kind person please enlighten me as to where Software Manager stores downloaded update packages? I want to reinstall LM8.0 so I'm backing everything up to another drive but I can't for the life of me find the packages that I've updated via Software Manager. TIA skinky _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] downloaded packages stored where?
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:57, skinky wrote: Hi all, Could some kind person please enlighten me as to where Software Manager stores downloaded update packages? I want to reinstall LM8.0 so I'm backing everything up to another drive but I can't for the life of me find the packages that I've updated via Software Manager. TIA skinky /var/cache/urpmi/rpms -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Linux for stupid newbies
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:48, Charlie Oriez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Someone in Central America saw my linux links webpage and asked for advice. see anything in the hardware below that would preclude using Mandrake 8.0? - -- Look what the cat dragged in: -- (snip) * Is more stable than Win 95 SR2 (what I use now, which seems to be the least unstable member of the Windows family) * Will run fine on my current hardware (Celeron 366 MHz w/32MB RAM) * Free or extremely cheap, both the OS and apps * Can have a Windows look alike GUI so my cybercafé's customers will not have to ask for help or even notice that it's not Windows * The time I invest installing and learning a new OS will be less than the time I now waste messing with Windows' instability and quirks (snip) - -- Charles Oriez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 34' 34.4N / 105 00' 06.3W The RAM is too little to seriously run KDE or GNOME. Xfce or IceWM would be good choices. IceWM can be made to look very much like Win95. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dialup Connection
Have now found kppp Cheers Dave S. - Original Message - From: d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Dialup Connection LURKER here, I have just a regular dialup connection and when I clicked on the kppp and the box appears there was a button called SetUp and that is all I used. Maybe the 'adsl' requires different method of setting thingys up, but; that is all I did. I am a very NEWBY as well, have had the software for about a year but only worked with it for about 2-3 days total time over that period, so be gentle with me, PLEASE? TIA, 'd' [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Antonio, Texas At 06:42 PM 8/28/01, you wrote: Am very new to linux. (all attempts having failed previously) Have installed Mandrake 8.0 It wont go online although I've entered all the parms for my adsl modem. Strangely the install never prompted me for a phone number for the dial-up and it doesn't recognise my 57k Conexant modem either. Obviously I've gone astray somewhere even though I've re-installed, looking for the opportunity to enter a phone number. Also cannot find how to effect a dial-up connection from within KDE. (was thinking that this approach might demand a phone number). Original System: 2 machine lan, win98. Have made one machine dual booting win98/Mandrake8.0. Used Mandrake's default auto install. Linux install has spotted the nic card. I am wondering if now expects me to connect over the lan without dialling up. - Just a newbie guess. Any advice appreciated. Dave S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MB CPU Suggestion Please
hi isaac, what tom is talking about is the speed at which info is transferred from pci cards such as nics, sound cards etc. i.e. the pci bus. despite the super fast performance of your cpu, memory etc, anything that relies on something connected via the pci bus cannot transfer faster than 33mhz (exceptions are if you have overclocked your mobo and if you have a rarer 66mhz pci slot), this 33mhz speed is part of the pci standard. this limitation was part of the motivation for the introduction of the agp slot to allow for faster (fatter) transfers between the graphics card and the cpu and memory. transfers involving isa connected stuff are even slower - @ 8mhz, this is why add-on conntroller cards for things like ata100 confuse me, any transfer that cannot be made by avoiding the pci slot/mobo interface must by definition be no faster than 33mhz, of course disk to disk would be different but nevertheless i don't see the advantage, anyone care to enlighten me? bascule On Wednesday 29 August 2001 2:44 am, you wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: Yes, with 1.4 Tbirds selling for $120, and equaling the perfomance of 2 gig Pentium 4's just out. Seems like the best deal, no?. Maybe not. Processor mhz aren't everything. Most all peripheals, including the harddrives still run on the 33.3mhz PCI bus. Despite all the hoopla 'bout D(ouble) D(ata) R(ate) this and DDR that, including AGP , and Win-RAID, and whatever the current advertised fad is ... everything still runs thru the good ol' slow 33.3mhz PCI bus. Tom, I sort of feel like I know basic hardware stuff, I've built a few of my own comps from scratch and thought I knew the lingo and basic concepts, but when you talk about everything having a 33.3mhz PCI bus what does that mean? Is that the same thing as the 100/133/200/400 mhz bus people talk about on processors/boards? I have a PIII 866 with a 133 bus. Any enlightenment you can dish out is much appreciated. Gratefully, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Low Resource Window Manager?
At 10:16 PM 8/28/01 -0400, you wrote: Someone just the other day mentioned IceWM as a resource-appropriate window manager for her/his PII 166 with 32 megs. I've got a PII 266 with the same memory and am curious what suggestions people have for window managers that I can use which will allow me to get the most out of what I've got until my 128mb stick arrives in a week or so. Until now I've pretty much just been doing everything from the command line with lynx, pine, vi, and other basic text utilities. Please explain why the window manager you recommend is good on low resources. Also comment on any major pros/cons you can think of. Thanks so much! == I use Blackbox 0.61.1. No panels, no kicker no icons, no docking. Very small footprint, VERY lightweight, clean, easy to use interface (once you get a little practice with it). Mike -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] SSL, Webmin and Apache frustrations, help!
Ok, I am trying to setup my webserver with webmin, ssl enabled. I have my .htgroup and .htpasswd setup, htgroup has all the users names, .htpasswd has the user name and password, in /var/www/ Then I have .htaccess in /var/www/media/stuff/ so inorder to go beyond stuff users should have to put in a password. Well they don't, it just lets them through. Here is the .htaccess file, have it got it wrong? Obviously..lol AuthType Basic AuthUserFile /var/www/.htpasswd SSLRequireSSL AuthGroupFile /var/www/htgroup SSLVerifyClient none Any help would be apriciated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
