[newbie-it] Avviso di sistema
Ciao smanettando nel linuxconf ho dato un'occhiata al file di sistema e ho visto che ci sono vari log tra cui cron. errors non c'è un modo per visualizzare gli errori verificati (tipo il mio crash quotidiano)? Ho notato che alla fine quando esco da linuxconf mi viene segnalato: manca il file di configurazione /etc/devsfsd.config per il servizio del fsd sto eseguendo /etc/rc5.d/s99devfsd stop è importante? oltre a una serie di messaggi del tipo che il sistema non è coerente con la configurazione attuale e che verranno cambiati il proprietario di alcuni file tipo /dev/printers/0.root etc/linuxconf.root e i permessi per altri file. Cosa mi consigliate di fare in questi casi? Lascio fare le modifiche o no? Infine ho visto con - applicazioni - monitoraggio - visualizzatore log di sistema che ci sono dei msg di errore. Come posso fare a copiarli in una mail? Sono 5/6 messaggi in tutto tipo: localhost kernel hdb: command error local error: status 0x51 driveready seek complete error tra parentesi graffe Grazie in anticipo dell'aiuto ku68 Ps esiste in linux un comando equivalente allo scandisk di win per vedere se nell'hd ci sono dei settori difettosi?
Re: [newbie-it] Gruppi di indirizzi in KMail
Anche io ho un problema simile, vorrei creare dei gruppi a cui corrispondano una trentina di indirizzi al fine di potere, con un solo clik, inviare una news letter associativa, ma non sò come operare con kmail. Chi mi può aiutare?
[newbie-it] SOS
Aiuto!!! Ho seguito il consiglio di fare fsck /dev/hdc6 L'ho fatto da root e non riuscivo + a entrare nella home né a fare la connessione a internet con kde. Sono uscito per rientrare e un msg avvisa che: writing to the temp directory (/tmp) failed with the error no such file or directory kde is unable to start. + o - la solita cosa con gnome. Ho provato a fare l'installazione - aggiornamento ma vengono fuori numerosi problemi. Ho spento e riavviato il boot funziona e win anche se invece provoa a far partire linux c'è un msg che mi pare aghiacciante: Ext3 - fs: journal inode is deleted Mount: error 22 mounting ext3 flags kernel panic: no init found try passing it=option kernel Cosa faccio? Oggi viene un amico ma sembrerebbe intenzionato a rifare l'installazione ex-novo. Mi scoccia perdere tutte le configurazioni fatte e le mail ricevute. Si può salvare qualcosa? In questo caso che consigliate di riprovare mandrake 8.2 o la red hat 7.3? Quale delle due è più facile da usare? Grazie in anticipo dell'aiuto ku68
Re: [newbie-it] Avviso di sistema
Il 01.06.02 alle 08:47, il notabile ku68 proferi' codeste parole: Ciao smanettando nel linuxconf ho dato un'occhiata al file di sistema e ho visto che ci sono vari log tra cui cron. errors non c'è un modo per visualizzare gli errori verificati (tipo il mio crash quotidiano)? Per verificare anche messaggi vecchi: less /var/log/messages less /var/log/syslog Ho notato che alla fine quando esco da linuxconf mi viene segnalato: manca il file di configurazione /etc/devsfsd.config per il servizio del fsd sto eseguendo /etc/rc5.d/s99devfsd stop è importante? Se usi il devfs [cosa che _sconsiglio_ vivamente: e' il tipico esempio di come per far credere di semplificare la gestione dei dispositivi si incasini molto di piu' la configurazione degli stessi] il file /etc/devfsd.conf e' indispensabile per il corretto funzionamento del demone: va da se' che se non lo trova sorgeranno dei problemi. Se decidi di non usarlo varrebbe la pena di fermare il demone (con il secondo comando) e poi disinstallare completamente il pacchetto devfsd. oltre a una serie di messaggi del tipo che il sistema non è coerente con la configurazione attuale e che verranno cambiati il proprietario di alcuni file tipo /dev/printers/0.root etc/linuxconf.root e i permessi per altri file. Cosa mi consigliate di fare in questi casi? Lascio fare le modifiche o no? Ti consiglio di prendere nota di quello che ti dice e di farlo a mano: questo perche' a volte ci sono comandi che non vuoi eseguire in automatico e in blocco per evitare di scombinarti la situazione (p.es. uno di questi e' lilo, se usi grub ...) Infine ho visto con - applicazioni - monitoraggio - visualizzatore log di sistema che ci sono dei msg di errore. Come posso fare a copiarli in una mail? Sono 5/6 messaggi in tutto tipo: localhost kernel hdb: command error local error: status 0x51 driveready seek complete error tra parentesi graffe Dovrebbero essere riportati nei file di log elencati all'inizio. Se si tratta dell'HD preparati psicologicamente ad un backup forzato dei dati importanti, tendenzialmente errori di questo tipo non sono mai simpatici (e possono preludere a problemi gravi fino alla sostituzione fisica dell'HD), circoscrivi il problema cercando di isolare (e possibilmente non utilizzare) la partizione in cui ci sono dei dati danneggiati. Se utilizzi hdparm per migliorare le prestazioni del disco, metti dei parametri piu' conservativi. Ps esiste in linux un comando equivalente allo scandisk di win per vedere se nell'hd ci sono dei settori difettosi? Te l'ho gia' scritto in una mail precedente ... -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc1 ;-)
Re: [newbie-it] SOS
Il 01.06.02 alle 12:53, il notabile ku68 proferi' codeste parole: Aiuto!!! Ho seguito il consiglio di fare fsck /dev/hdc6 L'ho fatto da root e non riuscivo + a entrare nella home né a fare la connessione a internet con kde. Ma /dev/hdc6 a che directory corrisponde? L'hai smontata prima?? Altrimenti con tutta probabilita' ha distrutto/corrotto qualcosa. Non bisogna _mai_ lavorare su un dispositivo di disco che sia montato (di sicuro ti sara' apparso un messaggio di avvertimento cmq): e questo vale per fsck, fdisk, badblocks, tune2fs, ecc... Ho spento e riavviato il boot funziona e win anche se invece provoa a far partire linux c'è un msg che mi pare aghiacciante: Ext3 - fs: journal inode is deleted Mount: error 22 mounting ext3 flags kernel panic: no init found try passing it=option kernel Non trova quel ext3 che il tuo /etc/fstab riporta, dato che non esiste piu' il log di journaling e percio' e' ritornato ext2. E quindi non riesce a montare il fs di root. Cosa faccio? Oggi viene un amico ma sembrerebbe intenzionato a rifare l'installazione ex-novo. Mi scoccia perdere tutte le configurazioni fatte e le mail ricevute. Si può salvare qualcosa? A questo punto vale la pena di installare da zero (anche se riuscissi a istemare le cose all'avvio, avresti cmq un sistema parzialmente malfunzionante). Ti consiglio di fare partizioni ne' piccole ne' troppo grandi: tutto dipende dalla grandezza dell'HD a disposizione e dall'estensione e collocazione dei settori danneggiati. Sarebbe un'ottima idea che riuscissi a creare una partizione inutilizzabile, in cui includerli (controlla se quegli errori di drive seek ecc... riguardano l'accesso ad una sola partizione: quella diventera' la tua inutilizzata); questo perche' ho notato che lasciare lavorare l'HD in una zona in cui ci sono settori danneggiati aggrava la situazione e ne fa aumentare il numero anche nelle zone adiacenti (non so se e' scientificamente corretto, ma nel mio caso si e' verificato proprio quello .. o forse era una partita di HD IBM particolarmente scadente :-// ). Tendenzialmente io attribuirei: alla /, circa 4-5 GB; alla /usr, almeno 5 GB; alla /home, intorno ai 3-4 GB; ad una partizione di backup, intorno ai 4-5 GB; ad una inutilizzata (vedi sopra), quanto necessario; a winbluff, vedi tu. Se hai meno spazio riduci proporzionalmente. Nella partizione di backup copia senz'altro il contenuto di /etc, i file di configurazione personali degli utenti, la posta, eventuali file corposi scaricati; se hai fatto configurazioni particolari in /var (ma non credo) copia anche quella. Tieni conto che quello che era memorizzato nei settori danneggiati e' comunque irrecuperabile. Poi raserei al suolo tutto (tranne il backup s'intende). Vaglia la possibilita' di trasferire determinati dati (quelli che non cambiano spesso) su un cd. In questo caso che consigliate di riprovare mandrake 8.2 o la red hat 7.3? Quale delle due è più facile da usare? Anche se sono controcorrente non e' che la MDK 8.2 mi abbia fatto poi quella gran buona impressione, e la RH non l'ho mai usata: io personalmente opterei ancora per una MDK 8.1 con gli aggiornamenti necessari (vedi errata sul sito mdk e 'updates'): l'unico problema e' il kernel un pochino datato (il 2.4.8) -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc1 ;-)
[newbie-it] Open Office 1.0
Per Ku 68 e per tutti gli altri naturlamente. Salve. Ho comprato Internet news perché c'era OO 1.0, come Ku 68... Dunque, credo che il software debba essere compilato ed installato, cosa mai fatta prima nella mia vita Da manuale ho decompresso il file tar con opzioni xvfz e invece di visualizzare la directory con fa normalmente, mi visualizza i tutti i nomi dei files con la scritta cannot open è normale?? C'è qualcosa che devo sapere sulla compilazione ed installazione di OO 1.0, prima che io combini guai?? Nel sito non trovo nulla e neache in qualche file readme grazie tante
Ri:Re: [newbie-it] Gruppi di indirizzi in KMail
Anche io ho un problema simile, vorrei creare dei gruppi a cui corrispondano una trentina di indirizzi al fine di potere, con un solo clik, inviare una news letter associativa, ma non sò come operare con kmail. Chi mi può aiutare? Ciao, credo che questa funzione sia stata inserita nella versione di KMail rilasciata insieme al KDE 3.0. Prova a fare un salto sul sito di KDE, troverai sicuramente le informazioni che cerchi... Daniele
Re: [newbie-it] Open Office 1.0
Il 01.06.02 alle 17:07, il notabile Emiliano La Licata proferi' codeste parole:
C'è qualcosa che devo sapere sulla compilazione ed installazione di OO 1.0,
prima che io combini guai??
Nel sito non trovo nulla e neache in qualche file readme
Non ho idea di cosa la direzione della rivista abbia messo nel cd.
Se il file che ti ritrovi e' questo:
OOo_1.0.0_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
nei nefasti panni di root :) copialo sul disco fisso, poi decomprimilo
in una directory qualsiasi (anche la tua $HOME); scendi nella directory
di scompattazione ('install') e installalo con il comando ./setup /net
(grafico, consigliato) o con il comando ./install --interactive
(testuale). Non c'e' bisogno di compilare niente.
--
L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583
K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc1 ;-)
Re: [newbie-it] Open Office 1.0
Alle 17:07, sabato 1 giugno 2002, hai scritto: Per Ku 68 e per tutti gli altri naturlamente. Salve. Ho comprato Internet news perché c'era OO 1.0, come Ku 68... Dunque, credo che il software debba essere compilato ed installato, cosa mai fatta prima nella mia vita Da manuale ho decompresso il file tar con opzioni xvfz e invece di visualizzare la directory con fa normalmente, mi visualizza i tutti i nomi dei files con la scritta cannot open è normale?? C'è qualcosa che devo sapere sulla compilazione ed installazione di OO 1.0, prima che io combini guai?? Nel sito non trovo nulla e neache in qualche file readme grazie tante Guarda che non devi compilare niente. Una volta decompressi i file dell'archivio devi solo lanciare l'eseguibile di installazione che si chiama setup e seguire le istruzioni. Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - A.I.P. n. 2075 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 8.1 on Pentium III 688 Mhz Linux Machine # 103048 Linux User # 203143
Re: [newbie-it] SOS
Alle 12:53, sabato 1 giugno 2002, hai scritto: Ho spento e riavviato il boot funziona e win anche se invece provoa a far partire linux c'è un msg che mi pare aghiacciante: Ext3 - fs: journal inode is deleted Mount: error 22 mounting ext3 flags kernel panic: no init found try passing it=option kernel Prova a partire con il cd-rom di installazione in modalità ripristino e vedi se riesci a cambiare, in fstab, ext3 con ext2. Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - A.I.P. n. 2075 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 8.1 on Pentium III 688 Mhz Linux Machine # 103048 Linux User # 203143
Re: [newbie-it] Open Office 1.0
di scompattazione ('install') e installalo con il comando ./setup /net
Con me non ha funzionato e ho dovuto ricorrere all'antiquato ./setup -net
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Re: [newbie] Digital cameras and Linux
Op Thursday 30 May 2002 23:48, schreef u: On Thursday 30 May 2002 03:46 pm, Charlie wrote: I don't see that specific model on either list (scroll down the pages to find cameras) but that doesn't mean you won't find a link (or a link to a link; wheels within wheels ya know?) with an answer at one of them, does it? :-) Or get a card reader. Then you can use any camera you want. In my case I use the SanDisk Compact Flash reader (I think Fuji uses smart media). All I have to do is modprobe usb-storage mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/compactflash and I can bring my pictures right into Linux. The compact flash looks like a drive. I did some test with a Nikon camera with USB connection and it also could be mounted as a SCSII drive and then you don 't need this card reader . Try it with your camera , it might work ?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with the mouse/screen
Thanks for that Kaj, it's been bugging me for ages - and i do indeed have a Trident Cyberblade. cheers Matt On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 00:49, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 01:05 am, Matt Blake wrote: Every now and again using any windows manager - mainly gnome or kde, i get a strange problem with the mouse - it is as if the area the mouse can move in shifts 2cm to the right but the actual screen stays in the same place. So for example when i want to click on the gnome icon to go into the main menu i have to click the mouse about 2cm to the right of the actual icon. The only way to stop it is a complete reboot - which is obviously pretty annoying! For various reasons i reinstalled mandrake 8.2 and the problem is the same. Does anybody have any idea why this is happening or how i can solve it? thanks for any help Matt Matt, this is a bug in some Trident chipsets, especially cyberblades. The solution is surprisingly simple : pass the option sw_cursor to the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 To do that, open a console and become root. Now, fire up a text-editor of your choice, for example type : mcedit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (without the quotes, of course). Scroll down the file until you find *Section Device*. A few stanzas down that section, remove the hash-mark (#) in front of *Option sw_cursor*. Save the file, un-root yourself and restart the X-server (or logout and in again). Done. HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrakeupdate
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI I been trying to use the mandrakeupdate and it seems it is going to good i add an source and download it and when i go to get the updates it saids what version i have installed and it shows there is an newer version but it always said not found can anyone please help and tell me step by step what i need to do as i been trying this for the past few days thanks in advance Bob Are you using PPC 8.2? Here's the latest from the Newsletter if you are quote 8.2 PPC Errata: Error scenario: The 8.2 PPC Software Manager doesn't successfully retrieve software updates. Solution: Manually download and install 'grpmi-8.2-3.1mdk.ppc.rpm' from any of the FTP locations (such as ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ppc/8.2/RPMS/). The next time the Software Manager is run, the ability to download and install updates is restored. /quote Another suggestion is change the mirror you are pointed at. Also if you are on 56K be patient while the database is built. Can't help more than that sorry. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 13:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 02:49 am, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 01:39 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Two days ago I posted a question of my own, concerning spam. Maybe that's the reason ? - Maybe the list has some filter who react to the phrase spam ? interestingly i forwarded (to this list) the message you sent me that never showed. my forward failed to appear too. ...bad message! go to /dev/null Hmmm Yes, I don't see it either, Shane. Indeed, this IS interesting ! Firstly, let's look at the bright side : my question was concerning spam and how to get rid of it. Accordingly, I mentioned spam quite a few times. Furthermore, I complimented some domains for their anti-spam - services, amongst them [EMAIL PROTECTED], which belongs to you-know-who. Secondly, the dark side : If there's some censor on this list (be it automatic or human) I'm a bit disappointed, to say the least. If MandrakeSoft really thinks it's nessecary to censor this list, they don't read it ! - I can't imagine any list with more loyal, educated and up_to_standards people than this one. On the other hand : maybe I just screwed something up in my post. Something that the internet can't digest. - Like spam ??? In that case, I'm a Mandraker forever ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 13:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 02:49 am, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 01:39 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Two days ago I posted a question of my own, concerning spam. Maybe that's the reason ? - Maybe the list has some filter who react to the phrase spam ? interestingly i forwarded (to this list) the message you sent me that never showed. my forward failed to appear too. ...bad message! go to /dev/null Hmmm Yes, I don't see it either, Shane. Indeed, this IS interesting ! Firstly, let's look at the bright side : my question was concerning spam and how to get rid of it. Accordingly, I mentioned spam quite a few times. Furthermore, I complimented some domains for their anti-spam - services, amongst them [EMAIL PROTECTED], which belongs to you-know-who. Secondly, the dark side : If there's some censor on this list (be it automatic or human) I'm a bit disappointed, to say the least. If MandrakeSoft really thinks it's nessecary to censor this list, they don't read it ! - I can't imagine any list with more loyal, educated and up_to_standards people than this one. On the other hand : maybe I just screwed something up in my post. Something that the internet can't digest. - Like spam ??? In that case, I'm a Mandraker forever ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Woops, trier fingerr... fired that e-mail reply off without my ha'pennies worth. One trap i occasionally strike is a bad reply to feild which sets reply to the poster rather than the list. Often we also get dual postings (of which this is not one). I am aware that some e-mail clients allow posting as HTML and text at the same time. There are no list monitors but if you get grisly then there may be the odd flame. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 9:29 pm, shane wrote: actually, it gets worse, they bought 30 win 98 copys to install, then found it was dog slow on those machines, bought new machines. win 98 at $65 a pop times 30 = $1950 30 new machines to run said software = $33000 being smart enough to know linux means multiple installs from one purchased cd = priceless One of the machines I'm currently using is one of 40 from a project which had some sort of customised configuration of Windows 2000. When the project ended and the machines reverted to the general pool it turned out that the 'company build' of Windows 95 (!!) wouldn't install on them. So they were lying in a corner, unused; I'd say easily £60,000 worth of kit (then high-end Dell machines). Now, if they installed Mandrake 8.2 they could have them all working for about 30 minutes per machine for no cost except labour; all the machines are identical and mine installed straight off from the box with everything recognised and working. StarOffice, Evolution and Konqueror would reproduce the 'standard desktop'. (Of course, much of this is down to politics and dogmatism - the IS people justifying themselves by having a slightly customised version of Windows, jealously guarded and only installable from password-protected shares after fussing around with boot floppies, to stop people installing it themselves and rendering their job irrelevant). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+JDdCv59vFiSU4YRAqqpAJ9EYDrCUxw8pOaG1OoB3plgxlqfFACfceVH RGQjJfD5X9bTEbnaNr573mE= =mFn7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] abit i845 boards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 9:37 pm, Mark Stewart wrote: Because I built one system successfully I've become an 'expert' and am currently building two P4-based machines for others with the i845E chipset (Asus P4B-533 motherboard). All is well under M8.2. Excellent! Thanks for the response. If you don't mind a follow up question: do either of these boards include the optional C-Media audio and, if so, did it work for you? Yes and yes, as with the Socket A board (see below). There were serious problems (with VIA bugs in the PCI bus arbitration, in IRQ assignment, and SoundBlaster Live card handling) but these all appear to be fixed in the 2.4.18 kernel M8.2 comes with. This is good to know although the fact that they still had to work around these issues is bothersome. For Socket A platforms I'd been looking at the Asus A7S333 which is based on the SiS745 chipset and has more or less the same set of options as their KT333 board minus USB 2.0 and the option for RAID (no loss). I just missed that when building the first system; SiS seems to have a slightly better reputation than VIA although, with new chipsets being churned out like sausages at the moment, there will doubtless be problems. En passant the CD that came with the VIA-based board had about 4 or 5 drivers for Windows; I think Windows would _not_ 'work out of the box' with it ;) I've just finished building a machine (my own machine :) with an Athlon XP 2000+, VIA chipset and 333MHz DDR support (Asus A7V333 motherboard) and all is OK; there are rather a lot of 'unknown controller' messages in the system log but they don't stop things working (I presume Linux falls back). I'm working with the 'Linux VIA person' in Poland to get 100 per cent support. Likewise, hope you don't mind a followup: did you have any of the extras that are optional with this board (the C-Media audio or the Firewire ports?) If so, were those the things that tripped the 'unknown controller' messages or were they more fundamental features? No Firewire, but C-Media which installed flawlessly and sounds excellent (once I took a Soundblaster Live! card out; trying to install M8.2 with two sound cards enabled caused big confusion ;) - From what I could tell it's the VIA North and South bridges and a VIA USB 2.0 controller which is causing the messages; the board came with a strange little adapter which fitted into an expansion slot and gave one joystick and two extra USB 2.0 ports. (That said, the USB 2.0 ports 'just work' although I don't have any USB 2.0 devices to check whether or not they've fallen back to USB 1.1). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+JMLCv59vFiSU4YRArTVAJ9bORJcgRWviG9RsL3cpC9mdsgRjwCgxEpe dC4G56BFXzTeYE70pRKWRQ0= =f7hP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 11:04 pm, shane wrote: yes, i have read about the double invention, but i just don't buy the cracking pgp idea. mostly because there are so many good mathmaticians who work on things like crypto and so few of them in the gov, i would bet it would showup in a university paper before the NSA could do it. short of a dictionary attack on the passphrase, i just don't buy it. and i use a real passphrase. maybe i am not paranoid enough? :) Evidently not :) Actually, in the United Kingdom, a heck of a lot of mathematics and computer science people vanish into GCHQ straight from university. A friend who teaches in Brighton says roughly 25 per cent per annum of his CS course do it! (I was also amazed to read somewhere that MI5 gets 70 job applications on spec _a day_ ...). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+JPACv59vFiSU4YRAheoAJ9a5oyMNMjYJ1FqiVGAHaVrckntvwCeOJSW aCVYlzLjc39pifZ0F2y3Nnw= =8nlp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NSA / PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 31 May 2002 9:46 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: that is some awesome information. thanks for the link. So, it was the Brits who did it first? Just like, inter alia, stored programming (Babbage), general-purpose computing (Turing) and the Web (Berners-Lee) :) En passant there is a _big_ push just now to have Alan Turing honoured, largely as an apology for the past methinks; there is talk of putting his portrait on a banknote as, apparently, Elgar is getting on a bit in banknote terms (of the latest design the £5 has shown George Stephenson and Elizabeth Fry, the £10 Dickens and Darwin and the £20 Faraday and Elgar, so he would be in fantastic company :) Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE8+JVkCv59vFiSU4YRAvrhAJYkZqn6dCCrZvFIv6RwTwWgUNLVAJ4tHAjn S+jcDU0pOTgNSZ+KS0MZhQ== =jsTU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] permission denied
The other night I got help on here trying to connect the internet in konsole when I type su ,ask password (give it ) root comes up give command /etc/resolv.conf ; permission denied. Is this te firewall? are root asignment problem?
Re: [newbie] mandrakeupdate
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 02:16:33AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI I been trying to use the mandrakeupdate and it seems it is going to good i add an source and download it and when i go to get the updates it saids what version i have installed and it shows there is an newer version but it always said not found can anyone please help and tell me step by step what i need to do as i been trying this for the past few days thanks in advance Bob Hi Bob, What version of Mandrake, and what version of MandrakeUpdate are you using Bob? Please also let me know what mirror source you are using some mirrors are rather slow to update. Dave [N3MEQ] GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586 7:23am up 6 days, 1:20, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David M.Kufta (n3meq) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://n3meq.dynip.com:8080 Wilmington,Delaware USA My GnuPG Public key is available at http://www.keyserver.net/ Key ID: 6038413478BA7657 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Saturday 01 June 2002 12:35 pm, ollyplaine wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 10:08:41PM -0400, D. Olson wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 09:50 pm, you wrote:(first couple of lines from Haj) On the other hand : maybe I just screwed something up in my post. Something that the internet can't digest. - Like spam ??? Well, I can't digest spam myself, so there ya go. ;) If it is like the expert list, it is a problem with the mail address not matching the ip address, or not resolvable, or something like that. an overzealous attempt at preventing spam -- it ends up preventing a lot of people from posting. -- Chris Spackman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
I think it is either a spammer collecting address as good if you reply, or some one who sends spam and now has a Klez worm that is working with Incrudumail. did y0u red the headers? On Saturday 01 June 2002 01:40 am, you wrote: Must be really dim, 3 days ago I sent him a private mail on how to do it, including your line! Bill On Friday 31 May 2002 11:04 pm, you wrote: How did you get on it? Miark alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: How do I get off this list Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 06:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 10:00 pm, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 12:53 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Please forgive me for waisting your bandwidth. After about - what - half a year on the list, I'm suddenly censored out. Don't know why - to many beers and cheers maybe ? Makes me kind'a sad, though. I think this list is very unique, informative, helpful and - sometimes - amusing. i am confused, how are you censored out? Well Shane, the last three days I've replied to 2 questions where I had the feeling I could be to some help. None showed up. Two days ago I posted a question of my own, concerning spam. Maybe that's the reason ? - Maybe the list has some filter who react to the phrase spam ? Well, now that it seems I'm back in business, I'll try to re-post it right away and see what happens. Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark I think you may have experienced the same scenario as me Kaj. I have sent the message below twice now, with different subjects and it has failed to show in either version, while other posts I sent before and after were showing up as usual. Can anyone recall seeing this text? It's in reply to the recent thread on Quake 3. - I finally got around to doing this (not that I play games of course ;-) and would like to post a small word of warning about the scenario that just bit me: Install Q3 and attempt to run. Up comes a message saying that the permissions on the GLX device are too restrictive to allow this and I should go look at the FAQ kindly provided. The FAQ spells out that the big bad wolf which reads /etc/security/console.perms is setting some permissions too tough and the solution is to edit that file, delete the line starting dri then change some permissions to allow Q3 to have its wicked way. Did that. Q3 works. Rebooted. Oops! Critical problem dri not known. Respawning too fast yada yada yada. Finally manage to log in as root. Edit the console.perms and see that the line removed (I commented it out actually) defines dri, but down further perms for dri are set. It doesn't like it when dri ain't defined. Remove comment and instead change the perms set for dri to the required values. Everyone is happy (inc Q3). This is the first and last time I'll be editing this file on someone else's say so, without bothering to understand what I'm really doing. cheers Brian P.S. Q3 is certainly damn fast on this OS! Can't play it though - gives me motion sickness! Really! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] permission denied
On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 22:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other night I got help on here trying to connect the internet in konsole when I type su ,ask password (give it ) root comes up give command /etc/resolv.conf ; permission denied. Is this te firewall? are root asignment problem? try: cat /etc/resolv.conf The permission denied is caused by the fact that /etc/resolv.conf is not executable - it's a text file. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Weird lockup
Hi all, I managed a very strange lockup. Now, I have an idea what caused it, but perhaps I am wrong. I hope someone here can shed some light. I use mkisofs to create a file cdimage.iso. Wanted to check that out before baking a cd of it. So I su'd, mounted the image file and browsed about in it. Looked okay, I made the CD, and then I wanted to delete the cdimage.iso file. Which locked up the xterm. My idea is that the lockup happened because the iso was still mounted when I wanted to delete it. Does that sound credible? Paul -- To live is to change, and to be perfect is to have changed often. -John Henry Newman http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.7.5 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
No, I didn't :( and it's zapped now anyway. Bill On Saturday 01 June 2002 05:37 am, you wrote: I think it is either a spammer collecting address as good if you reply, or some one who sends spam and now has a Klez worm that is working with Incrudumail. did y0u red the headers? On Saturday 01 June 2002 01:40 am, you wrote: Must be really dim, 3 days ago I sent him a private mail on how to do it, including your line! Bill On Friday 31 May 2002 11:04 pm, you wrote: How did you get on it? Miark alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: How do I get off this list Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] This sucks vacuum hard... ;-(
Gah. I'm glad I am not an American. But sadly, my government isn't much better and would probably have given in long ago. I should move to Peru... Hmm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrakeupdate
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 02:16:33 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI I been trying to use the mandrakeupdate and it seems it is going to good i add an source and download it and when i go to get the updates it saids what version i have installed and it shows there is an newer version but it always said not found can anyone please help and tell me step by step what i need to do as i been trying this for the past few days thanks in advance Bob Are you saying that when you try to download the package it's not found? Or does it say 'not found' next to the package version listed in software manager? If it's the latter, don't worry. That just means it can't find the importance of the update. Sometimes it will say not found, others will say security. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 8.2 install problem
I tried to install 8.2 power pack last night and ran into some problems. It gets to the part where it's supposed to install the packages and no packages seem to be available. I get error messages like "depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files". After 8.2 failedI tried to go back and reinstall 8.0. I get "Nothing found while parsing /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist" I have finally been able to install an old 7.2. Feeling like I was on a roll, I tried 8.0 again and got something like "unable to open /mnt/something/something/RPM. When I logged out I saw a message something about "can't open the rpm database, if you recently upgraded" couldn't catch the rest. Can anyone help me out? Appreciate it, Scott W.
[newbie] 8.2 install problems
I tried to install 8.2 last night and ran into some problems. When I got to the part where the packages install, no packages seemd to be available. I got an error message like "depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files" and "Basesystem package not selected.". After this failed I tried to go back and reinstall 8.0. This time I got "Nothing found while parsing /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist" I was then able to able install an old 7.2. Feeling like I was on a roll, I tried 8.0 again. I got "Unable to open /mnt/something/something/RPM." When I logged out I saw a message something about "Unable to open rpom database, if you recently upgraded" couldn't catch the rest. I get that 8.0 and 8.2 can't seem to get at the packages, but why and what to do about it? Appreciate any help, Thanks, Scott
Re: [newbie] This sucks vacuum hard... ;-(
June 1, 2002 09:27 am, darklord wrote: snip You're welcome, and thank you for taking a stab at explaining it to me. It still seems like someone is saying, I have solid evidence that party x did break the law, but I can't submit it because it may show they are guilty Or maybe I'm oversimplifing... ;-( ;-) ~~~ Not over simplifying at all in my opinion. But what is one to do? I tend to agree with you in this case. Microsoft was guilty before the Appeals Court stuck their oar in the water, and they're still guilty. But I said that two years and more ago, before I stopped using the copy of Windows 98 SE that is still collecting dust here in a closet somewhere. From the perspective of a regular consumer I hate the philosophy practiced by many corporations. All the traffic will bear is a risky business model (I hate that word) when consumers become educated well enough to vote their wallets. Making profits is fine, no problem with that for me. But to gouge the entire world and feel that XYZ corporation has a Right to make obscene profits just because they're the only game in town; or because they have inordinate leverage through market position is, in itself, an obscenity. Thankfully; the people that develop open source software are happily building us a better mouse trap. If MS and their sycophants don't learn to jump out of the way the avalanche will bury them. Sooner rather than later. Meanwhile I'll be busily and happily installing, and helping to install, my favorite operating system for anyone that expresses an interest. To help that avalanche build momentum. Can you say grass roots movement? I knew ya could. :-) -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org If God had intended Man to Walk, He would have given him Feet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: LM 8.2 Configuration
Hi! I got Windows XP Pro/Mandrake 8.2 installed on a workstation, the windows died meaning it goes doom by showing illegal operations. I decided to re-install Windows again. Is there any faster way of restoring back the LM 8.2 boot-up screen without re-installing the whole software. Appreciate all your help Many thanks Dan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: LM 8.2 Configuration
In reply to 's mail, d.d. Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:44:32 +: I got Windows XP Pro/Mandrake 8.2 installed on a workstation, the windows died meaning it goes doom by showing illegal operations. I decided to re-install Windows again. Is there any faster way of restoring back the LM 8.2 boot-up screen without re-installing the whole software. Boot from MDK cd 1, hit F1, type rescue, hit enter and when all that has come to rest: run lilo -v :) Paul -- To live is to change, and to be perfect is to have changed often. -John Henry Newman http://nlpagan.net-Linux Mandrake 8.2 - Sylpheed 0.7.5 Help Microsoft combat software piracy: give Linux to a friend today! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 install problem
don't upgrade, reformat and install, or f1 and rescue(...etc) On Saturday 01 June 2002 12:25 pm, you wrote: I tried to install 8.2 power pack last night and ran into some problems. It gets to the part where it's supposed to install the packages and no packages seem to be available. I get error messages like depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files. After 8.2 failed I tried to go back and reinstall 8.0. I get Nothing found while parsing /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist I have finally been able to install an old 7.2. Feeling like I was on a roll, I tried 8.0 again and got something like unable to open /mnt/something/something/RPM. When I logged out I saw a message something about can't open the rpm database, if you recently upgraded couldn't catch the rest. Can anyone help me out? Appreciate it, Scott W. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Faxing by e-mail
If you want to use your own box, try with efax and setup /etc/fax.config You have to change one line like # The user to be sent mail when a fax is received. FAXMGR=your email On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 17:22, Miark wrote: I'll soon be receiving faxes more regularly, and I'm not set up to do so. Is there any way I can receive faxes by e-mail? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 install problems
Sorry for that double post. Anyway, now 7.2 won't boot, It says: "Warning: Unable to open an initial console." "Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel." Geez, all I wanted to do was upgrade. Appreciate any help. ThankSW - Original Message - From: Scott Wagner To: newbie Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: [newbie] 8.2 install problems I tried to install 8.2 last night and ran into some problems. When I got to the part where the packages install, no packages seemd to be available. I got an error message like "depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files" and "Basesystem package not selected.". After this failed I tried to go back and reinstall 8.0. This time I got "Nothing found while parsing /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist" I was then able to able install an old 7.2. Feeling like I was on a roll, I tried 8.0 again. I got "Unable to open /mnt/something/something/RPM." When I logged out I saw a message something about "Unable to open rpom database, if you recently upgraded" couldn't catch the rest. I get that 8.0 and 8.2 can't seem to get at the packages, but why and what to do about it? Appreciate any help, Thanks, Scott
Re:Re: [newbie] mandrakeupdate
yes it saids not found in the importance part but it still doesnt download the newer version and still list the older one as being installed Bob GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:Re: [newbie] mandrakeupdate
Hi Dave Good to hear from you i am using mandrake 8.1 standrad edition the mandrakeupdate i will have to look it up well i have try differnt mirrors cant remember which ones now just try to see what version update i have and cant seem to find it ok be waiting to hear any info Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cvs gui client
I can't seem to find a gui cvs client for mandrake that works... anyone able to point me to a working rpm for one? many thanks -- Azrael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slightly OT Mandrake stock
Alastair Scott wrote: (Of course, much of this is down to politics and dogmatism - the IS people justifying themselves by having a slightly customised version of Windows, jealously guarded and only installable from password-protected shares after fussing around with boot floppies, to stop people installing it themselves and rendering their job irrelevant). Isn't that one (almost) everyone does -- do things in the interest of keeping their job regardless of the relationship to the basic objective of the job? I mean, isn't that what copyright, patents, trade secrets, etc. are all about? Isn't that what the RIAA and so forth are fighting about? Isn't that why there are laws in most american towns about who can be a barber / hairdresser, and who can and cannot buy hair dressing tools / supplies? Isn't that what Microsoft is trying to do? And IBM, HP, Sun, Solaris, Apple, ...? Isn't that why we have millions of lines (pages?) of laws? Isn't that what farm subsidies are all about? Don't welfare workers want to continue to have clients? Don't drug enforcers want drug traffickers? Is there an alternate approach? just today's cynical $.02 Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: LM 8.2 Configuration
wrote: Hi! I got Windows XP Pro/Mandrake 8.2 installed on a workstation, the windows died meaning it goes doom by showing illegal operations. I decided to re-install Windows again. Is there any faster way of restoring back the LM 8.2 boot-up screen without re-installing the whole software. If you mean you want to have lilo again after an windows re-install, then it is very simple. that is if you made a boot disk when you installed mandrake 8.2. If you did , then all you have to do is use it to startup mandrake. ( it should boot into your mandrake install with or without win/whatever installed ) once in Mandrake open a terminal type su and enter password then simply type lilo. now it will give you the boot list again when you start the box. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Importing address book and outlook pst settings
Now that my linux system is up and running properly and i'm happy with how everything works i want to use evolution instead of ms outlook for my calendar/tasks/mail etc. How can i install my outlook .pst files into evolution? Also how can i import my address book from outlook express - i have got the mail by importing it into mozilla and then to evolution - there's probably a simpler way but i couldn't find it. Cheers for any help offered Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Going cable -- but with which cable?
I'm having cable access installed on Tuesday. My modem allows one to connect to the computer via USB or ethernet. Which will offer better performance? By the way, this'll be plugged into a winsux machine. At least for the time being :-( Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] permission denied
Actually, you do not need to be root to read resolv.conf (I can read it just fine as a normal user), you need to be root in order to make changes to it. Michael -- Michael Viron Core System Administration Team, Simple End User Linux At 10:37 AM 6/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: you need a space between the t in cat and the /in /etc. you need to be root. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Going cable -- but with which cable?
On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:53:15 -0600 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having cable access installed on Tuesday. My modem allows one to connect to the computer via USB or ethernet. Which will offer better performance? By the way, this'll be plugged into a winsux machine. At least for the time being :-( Miark for internet access, nothing beats the ethernet card. a 10Mbps ethernet is way faster than a usb link. ( not that you are actually going to connect to the internet at 10Mbps, tho ;oP ) Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] What to do with old CDs
Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On 01 Jun 2002 23:18:37 +1000 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think you may have experienced the same scenario as me Kaj. I have sent the message below twice now, with different subjects and it has failed to show in either version, while other posts I sent before and after were showing up as usual. Can anyone recall seeing this text? It's in reply to the recent thread on Quake 3. - I finally got around to doing this (not that I play games of course ;-) and would like to post a small word of warning about the scenario that just bit me: snip I searched my inbox and it's not there :) -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 install problem
On Saturday 01 June 2002 06:25 pm, Scott Wagner wrote: I tried to install 8.2 power pack last night and ran into some problems. It gets to the part where it's supposed to install the packages and no packages seem to be available. I get error messages like depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files. After 8.2 failed I tried to go back and reinstall 8.0. I get Nothing found while parsing /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist I have finally been able to install an old 7.2. Feeling like I was on a roll, I tried 8.0 again and got something like unable to open /mnt/something/something/RPM. When I logged out I saw a message something about can't open the rpm database, if you recently upgraded couldn't catch the rest. Can anyone help me out? Appreciate it, Scott W. Scott, your problem seems to indicate a K6 - CPU , right ? In this case point your browser to the Mandrake homepage and click errata. Once there, you'll find the explanation, and the fix : download a small patch, copy it to a floppy, re-install 8.2 and, at the splash-screen, press F1 and type patch. That's all. On the other hand : if you don't have a browser yet, I'll be glad to mail this patch to you. Just let me know, OK ? HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What to do with old CDs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 June 2002 01:27 pm, Miark did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? got a shot gun? you could use them for wheels on some wild model car styles. they make handy reflectors for survival situations. i used to teach a computer class, and one year we decorated a christas tree with them. take up sewing. pretend they are _really_ big sequins. disco is back! get a dog, teach it it to catch cds they way other dogs catch frisbies. if they are all burns of linux install cds you could ship them to MS with a note don't steal your next OS from apple, they expect it, try this instead. serious...but keep the most recent install burns for shipping to third world countries. include spare 'puter parts if you can./serious invite over 30 of your best friends, ready a camera by pointing it into the air, and take pictures of the UFO invasion! get yourself some targets and become tux-san, linux ninja for a few hours. redo the bedroom. hang them on the ceiling. reflective side down if you are into that. ask AOL what they do. they must have worked out _something_ by now. two words. geek hubcaps. some wild sunglasses could be possible too. everyone always says coasters but the whole in the middle kinda makes that pointless. - -- I used to be confused, but now I am not that sure anymore.. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+TRKBwq+ZwvIN/oRAjYFAJwNJh8hDvh1s+wRxK9Bj18l5ORjKwCfRLxI KJWWwRklmu3TL2+onV9nzhs= =GJLV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Going cable -- but with which cable?
Miark wrote: I'm having cable access installed on Tuesday. My modem allows one to connect to the computer via USB or ethernet. Which will offer better performance? By the way, this'll be plugged into a winsux machine. At least for the time being :-( Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com You'd best use ethernet. Performance will not be noticeably different, but platform compatibility will be. There are USB devices of the software-driven sort for modems, ISDN, and ADSL and Cable. Yes, Windevices. Check linux-usb.org and you will see a host of incompatibles. It won't matter on a winbox, but when you put a real gateway computer there, it will make a big-time difference. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What to do with old CDs
Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? Miark First, be sure your wife is not at home. The children will love this but it is not something you want them doing alone. Stack 4 or five disks together. Separate them by a small hard plastic button in the middle. Put the stack, and be sure you line the disks up neatly after you put it on the bottom, in the microwave. Hit the on button and watch the incredible fireworks. Be sure to stop the microwave before there is a real stinking meltdown. Or, you can send the disks to The United States Coast Guard in Indiannapolis, Indiana They will turn them into reflective disks to put into life jackets. Good thing to do, the latter. dh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] permission denied
On Saturday 01 June 2002 04:14 pm, you wrote: Actually, you do not need to be root to read resolv.conf (I can read it just fine as a normal user), you need to be root in order to make changes to it. Michael thank you for the correction. et Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Saturday 01 June 2002 10:41 pm, Frans Ketelaars wrote: On 01 Jun 2002 23:18:37 +1000 Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think you may have experienced the same scenario as me Kaj. I have sent the message below twice now, with different subjects and it has failed to show in either version, while other posts I sent before and after were showing up as usual. Can anyone recall seeing this text? It's in reply to the recent thread on Quake 3. - I finally got around to doing this (not that I play games of course ;-) and would like to post a small word of warning about the scenario that just bit me: snip I searched my inbox and it's not there :) -Frans Nor is it in mine. Now that I've had some time to think about it, maybe I have some sort of explanation - well, it's only a theory : Maybe those mails that never show up contains one - or more - characters that the mail-server doesn't like. For example, those of us who live in countries with a slightly different character-set, like Scandinavia, Germany, France etc. are sometimes a little uncautious : inadvertantly we could type a character outside the ASCII-7-bit system. (I won't give an example here, 'cause that might trigger the anaphylactic reaction, eh ?). Or, - slightly related : When I reviewed my rejected post concerning spam, I noticed that I had used some special characters like dollar-signs, tildes, exclamations-marks, brackets etc... To clarify, I'll quote from my rejected message as follows : quote ...6. Yesterday, a danish newspaper (Berlingske Tidende) described a very gruesome retaliation : Find some really xx-porn-site on the web who offers to send you e-mails with xx-pics. Fill in the spammers e-mail-address and let him taste his own medicine ! (never tried it - yet). Will it work ? /quote In the original post, those x were graphical-special-characters to illustrate my disgust. I figure the list-server has sentiments equalling mine ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What to do with old CDs
On Saturday 01 June 2002 10:53 pm, shane wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 01:27 pm, Miark did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? got a shot gun? you could use them for wheels on some wild model car styles. they make handy reflectors for survival situations. i used to teach a computer class, and one year we decorated a christas tree with them. take up sewing. pretend they are _really_ big sequins. disco is back! get a dog, teach it it to catch cds they way other dogs catch frisbies. if they are all burns of linux install cds you could ship them to MS with a note don't steal your next OS from apple, they expect it, try this instead. serious...but keep the most recent install burns for shipping to third world countries. include spare 'puter parts if you can./serious invite over 30 of your best friends, ready a camera by pointing it into the air, and take pictures of the UFO invasion! get yourself some targets and become tux-san, linux ninja for a few hours. redo the bedroom. hang them on the ceiling. reflective side down if you are into that. ask AOL what they do. they must have worked out _something_ by now. two words. geek hubcaps. some wild sunglasses could be possible too. everyone always says coasters but the whole in the middle kinda makes that pointless. Shane, ROFLOL ! Kaj Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 install problem
Thank you . SW - Original Message - From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 8.2 install problem On Saturday 01 June 2002 06:25 pm, Scott Wagner wrote: I tried to install 8.2 power pack last night and ran into some problems. It gets to the part where it's supposed to install the packages and no packages seem to be available. I get error messages like depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files. After 8.2 failed I tried to go back and reinstall 8.0. I get Nothing found while parsing /mnt/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist I have finally been able to install an old 7.2. Feeling like I was on a roll, I tried 8.0 again and got something like unable to open /mnt/something/something/RPM. When I logged out I saw a message something about can't open the rpm database, if you recently upgraded couldn't catch the rest. Can anyone help me out? Appreciate it, Scott W. Scott, your problem seems to indicate a K6 - CPU , right ? In this case point your browser to the Mandrake homepage and click errata. Once there, you'll find the explanation, and the fix : download a small patch, copy it to a floppy, re-install 8.2 and, at the splash-screen, press F1 and type patch. That's all. On the other hand : if you don't have a browser yet, I'll be glad to mail this patch to you. Just let me know, OK ? HTH Kaj Haulrich Denmark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] permission denied
Actually, whether you can even read the file as a user depends on the security level, but more than likely you'll be able to read it. Miark et [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: On Saturday 01 June 2002 04:14 pm, you wrote: Actually, you do not need to be root to read resolv.conf (I can read it just fine as a normal user), you need to be root in order to make changes to it. Michael thank you for the correction. et Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] permission denied
Thank,s guys I got in I couldn,t find anything wrong was hopeing that I was hope I was going to be make changes - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] permission denied On Saturday 01 June 2002 04:14 pm, you wrote: Actually, you do not need to be root to read resolv.conf (I can read it just fine as a normal user), you need to be root in order to make changes to it. Michael thank you for the correction. et Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mixing scsi and ide cds with xcdroast
is there something i need to do to have xcdroast use an ide cdreader, the scsi writer shows up as a device, but the cdrom which is ide isn't an option as a reader, on my main box my newer ide writer uses ide-scsi in order to write, do i have to do that for a cdreader if xcdroast is to see it? the scenario is that i have put my old writer in a different box to use over the network and to force me to get the hang of X forwarding and stuff, is there perhaps a better cd authoring package to use like this? bascule -- 'Life's like a beach. And then you die.' (Small Gods) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What to do with old CDs
Damn, I just threw out about 20 old CDs! Sir Robin On Sun, 2002-06-02 at 00:23, Dwight Hines wrote: Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? Miark First, be sure your wife is not at home. The children will love this but it is not something you want them doing alone. Stack 4 or five disks together. Separate them by a small hard plastic button in the middle. Put the stack, and be sure you line the disks up neatly after you put it on the bottom, in the microwave. Hit the on button and watch the incredible fireworks. Be sure to stop the microwave before there is a real stinking meltdown. Or, you can send the disks to The United States Coast Guard in Indiannapolis, Indiana They will turn them into reflective disks to put into life jackets. Good thing to do, the latter. dh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Going cable -- but with which cable?
On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 23:23, Damian G wrote: On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:53:15 -0600 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having cable access installed on Tuesday. My modem allows one to connect to the computer via USB or ethernet. Which will offer better performance? By the way, this'll be plugged into a winsux machine. At least for the time being :-( Miark for internet access, nothing beats the ethernet card. a 10Mbps ethernet is way faster than a usb link. ( not that you are actually going to connect to the internet at 10Mbps, tho ;oP ) Sad but true. On most sites I rarely get near the limit of my 56K modem. For FTP it can make a big difference though. I've done FTP installs on my office computer from the university server, and packages installed faster than from my CD-ROM at home. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Saturday 01 June 2002 09:24 am, you wrote: On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:38:49PM +1000, Brian Parish wrote: OK, there is something going on here. I replied to this and attached a post that seems to do the same thing. My reply has not shown up, but a later post has. Seems there is something in the message. Would someone like to volunteer to receive it off-list and then try to post it (in case it's just Kaj and me)? Brian - Sat Jun 01 09:22:58 CDT 2002 Mail it to me Brian, and I will refire it to the list. It's a heavy dose of gamma rays. They wipe out an electron or two on a server cpu and data lost. Just like my brain, a hit of gamma rays and neurons wiped, data lost. It seems to happen more often as I get older. : ) Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Friday 31 May 2002 08:50 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 02:49 am, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 01:39 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Two days ago I posted a question of my own, concerning spam. Maybe that's the reason ? - Maybe the list has some filter who react to the phrase spam ? interestingly i forwarded (to this list) the message you sent me that never showed. my forward failed to appear too. ...bad message! go to /dev/null Hmmm Yes, I don't see it either, Shane. Indeed, this IS interesting ! Firstly, let's look at the bright side : my question was concerning spam and how to get rid of it. Accordingly, I mentioned spam quite a few times. Furthermore, I complimented some domains for their anti-spam - services, amongst them [EMAIL PROTECTED], which belongs to you-know-who. Secondly, the dark side : If there's some censor on this list (be it automatic or human) I'm a bit disappointed, to say the least. If MandrakeSoft really thinks it's nessecary to censor this list, they don't read it ! - I can't imagine any list with more loyal, educated and up_to_standards people than this one. On the other hand : maybe I just screwed something up in my post. Something that the internet can't digest. - Like spam ??? In that case, I'm a Mandraker forever ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark It was just a stray gamma ray, wiping out a silicon atom on a server chip. It was nothing personal on the part of the Universe, these things happen to my brain all the time. Gamma ray hits, data lost. : ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What to do with old CDs
On 02 Jun 2002 02:48:26 +0300 Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, I just threw out about 20 old CDs! Sir Robin On Sun, 2002-06-02 at 00:23, Dwight Hines wrote: Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? Miark First, be sure your wife is not at home. The children will love this but it is not something you want them doing alone. Stack 4 or five disks together. Separate them by a small hard plastic button in the middle. Put the stack, and be sure you line the disks up neatly after you put it on the bottom, in the microwave. Hit the on button and watch the incredible fireworks. Be sure to stop the microwave before there is a real stinking meltdown. Or, you can send the disks to The United States Coast Guard in Indiannapolis, Indiana They will turn them into reflective disks to put into life jackets. Good thing to do, the latter. dh This is a bit off the topic at hand, but there's a site call nomoreaolcds.com I believe it is. Their goal is to collect 1 million aol cds and mail them straight back to aol. I know I'm rooting for em. ;) Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Connection sharing/samba problem
OK I set it back. I do not understand much about networking, but a windows network skilled friend is coming over. What do I need to tell him to get the configuration right? And does anyone have a good link explaining stuff för him? Thanks a lot/ Stojs Brian Parish wrote: On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 02:07, Stojs wrote: I had a linux computer with one nic connected to my windows machine (eth0) and one nic connected to the internet (eth1) using dhcp. I could use the windows connection for connection sharing or samba, but not both at the same time. Now I have another set of nics connecting the two machines, to have one nic for connection sharing and one for samba. Now I cannot get a working connection sharing. Should I set the same ip for the nic used for the sharing (eth0) and the one for samba (eth2) or should they be different? What else I should keep in mind? Thanks in advance/ Stojs You certainly don't need more than three nics - two in the machine sharing the connection and one in the client machine. I suggest you put it back the way it was, then ask for help to get it configured properly. Otherwise it's just making it more complicated. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 18:25, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 09:24 am, you wrote: On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:38:49PM +1000, Brian Parish wrote: OK, there is something going on here. I replied to this and attached a post that seems to do the same thing. My reply has not shown up, but a later post has. Seems there is something in the message. Would someone like to volunteer to receive it off-list and then try to post it (in case it's just Kaj and me)? Brian - Sat Jun 01 09:22:58 CDT 2002 Mail it to me Brian, and I will refire it to the list. It's a heavy dose of gamma rays. They wipe out an electron or two on a server cpu and data lost. Just like my brain, a hit of gamma rays and neurons wiped, data lost. It seems to happen more often as I get older. : ) Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Sorry about all the junk messages. I am trying to get set up on broadband and my ISP service sees me trying to send on the old earthlink connection and thinks I am relaying. I have not figured out the settings on my SNF (which is working like a champ) to try and get it to accept the smpt connection. It shows an SMPT error and something about relaying and not permitted by the administrator. So I have resubscribed to the list on this new account. Have to use the dialup for a few more days while I sort out this problem and get everyone notified of the email address change. So once again, sorry for multiple messages. They were sitting in que and I thought I had deleted them. Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] libpng.so.2
Why does anything needing libpng.so.2 on my system fail to install? Ximian's red carpet, on attempting to install opera, claimed that no source could be foind for libpng.so.2 and when attempting to install lincvs rpm's they failed on libpng.so.2 yet I can't seem to find any libpng for my system. running mdk 8.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] libpng.so.2
On Saturday 01 June 2002 21:17, you wrote: Hi, as far as I know, MDK 8.2 comes with libpng3. Download libpng2 and install it, rpm -ivh libpng2 and then you will have both, 2 and 3 installed. I did this and things are working ok. Hope it helps you, Rodrigo Why does anything needing libpng.so.2 on my system fail to install? Ximian's red carpet, on attempting to install opera, claimed that no source could be foind for libpng.so.2 and when attempting to install lincvs rpm's they failed on libpng.so.2 yet I can't seem to find any libpng for my system. running mdk 8.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What to do with old CDs
Miark wrote: Over the course of two years, I've been tossing old CDs in a pile. I'm guessing there are about 100 now. Any interesting ideas as to what I could do with them? Miark if they're games/software I donate them to charity -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] libpng.so.2
On 02 Jun 2002 01:17:12 +0100 Azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does anything needing libpng.so.2 on my system fail to install? Ximian's red carpet, on attempting to install opera, claimed that no source could be foind for libpng.so.2 and when attempting to install lincvs rpm's they failed on libpng.so.2 yet I can't seem to find any libpng for my system. running mdk 8.2 The package you need is libpng2. Unfortunately, mdk 8.2 uses libpng3. I've noticed this libpng thing to a real pain as well when I was trying to upgrade packages on my 8.1 system. I just caved and did a fresh install of mdk 8.2. I think some people have both of these side by side. If you ask me, I think that could eventually turn into a big sticky mess. It just seems too likely to cause a dependency nightmare having applications that require different versions of the same library. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] libpng.so.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 01 June 2002 05:52 pm, Bill Davidson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I think some people have both of these side by side. If you ask me, I think that could eventually turn into a big sticky mess. It just seems too likely to cause a dependency nightmare having applications that require different versions of the same library. nah, that is why we name them different things, to avoid the microsoft my dll overwrote your dll so my stuff runs and yours don't problem. i don't know, maybe it can cause trouble but i have been using older/alternate side by side libs since 7.2 for various reasons and no trouble yet.. well no trouble from that anyway. my son keeps unplugging the power strip, but his libs are his own doing. - -- How dare the government intervene to stifle innovation in the computer industry! That's Microsoft's job, dammit! shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8+W4pBwq+ZwvIN/oRAnd7AJ4sEG6EapJ3NmvRJsAiYJMaAqURMgCdG0ai elJPn07WkqJFBQNbqYFdgOk= =P/f5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Gnome-Desktop Problems
Im having some trouble putting icons on my desktop. My desktop has no icons whatsoever on it, and it doesn't have a pop-up menu when i right click on it. In fact there seems to be nothing I can do to change the desktop, or add any icons to it. Advice i've tried - - Adding shortcuts to ~/.gnome-desktop folder. Nothing Happened - Deleting /tmp/orbit-(username), and then adding stuff to my desktop folder. Nothinghappened - Dragging shortcuts from the panel to the desktop. Failure. - Poking around in nautilus menus and gnome configurations, I couldn't find anything that related specifically to the icons on a desktop. In short, 90% of my normal start up screen is inert, and i can only run programs via the panel. Does anyone know of a possible solution I have not tried yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Friday 31 May 2002 20:53, you wrote: SNIP Makes me kind'a sad, though. I think this list is very unique, informative, helpful and - sometimes - amusing. I fully agree to all of that :-) I have followed this list for longer that any other and have enjoyed all of the above - if I miss it for a day I'm in trouble because I havn't had my daily fix (and there will be the inevitable backlog of mails I just have to read) which keep my spare moments occupied for days after before I catch up - haven't had a holiday in months for this reason *G* So : if this mail infects your screen, send it to /dev/null. Then I'll be happy again ! It infected me :) Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark -- Derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?
On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 16:39, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 08:50 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 01 June 2002 02:49 am, shane wrote: On Friday 31 May 2002 01:39 pm, Kaj Haulrich did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Two days ago I posted a question of my own, concerning spam. Maybe that's the reason ? - Maybe the list has some filter who react to the phrase spam ? interestingly i forwarded (to this list) the message you sent me that never showed. my forward failed to appear too. ...bad message! go to /dev/null Hmmm Yes, I don't see it either, Shane. Indeed, this IS interesting ! Firstly, let's look at the bright side : my question was concerning spam and how to get rid of it. Accordingly, I mentioned spam quite a few times. Furthermore, I complimented some domains for their anti-spam - services, amongst them [EMAIL PROTECTED], which belongs to you-know-who. Secondly, the dark side : If there's some censor on this list (be it automatic or human) I'm a bit disappointed, to say the least. If MandrakeSoft really thinks it's nessecary to censor this list, they don't read it ! - I can't imagine any list with more loyal, educated and up_to_standards people than this one. On the other hand : maybe I just screwed something up in my post. Something that the internet can't digest. - Like spam ??? In that case, I'm a Mandraker forever ! Regards Kaj Haulrich Denmark It was just a stray gamma ray, wiping out a silicon atom on a server chip. It was nothing personal on the part of the Universe, these things happen to my brain all the time. Gamma ray hits, data lost. : ) Have you been reading BOFH rather than working? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
