[newbie-it] R: [newbie-it] Stabilità
:oramai un paio di anni che maneggio il pinguino ma ultimamente mi sta mettendo in crisi: la mdk8.2 :NON E STABILE Anche per me è stato così, ma in generale ricompilando il kernel con un 2.4.18 puro la situazione mi sembra migliore. Però in genere non utilizzo mai il kernel mdk e quindi non ho riscontrato grossi problemi. Biss
[newbie-it] Partizione NTFS
Vorrei cambiare sul secondo HD la partizione di XP da FAT 32 a NTFS(ovviamente reinstallando tutto)ma prima vorrei trovare la soluzione piu' semplice per aggiornare MDK8.2 per cui vi pogo alcune domande : Mi conviene cambiare la partizione direttamente da Linux oppure installare direttamente XP e poi configurare GRUB ?( in questo caso non so come fare.. ). GRUB e' capace di far partire una partizione NTFS ? Un'ultima soluzione ( quella piu' dispendiosa ...) sarebbe quella di installare XP con NTFS e poi fare un rapido aggiornamento di MDK . che mi consigliate ? Ciao, Francesco
[newbie-it] Isdn4linux
Buongiorno a tuti, sono un nuovo utente di mandrake 8.2, alle prese con i miei piccoli poblemi. Configurando il mio account internete riesco a vedere il mio modem isdn usb-trust ma al momento della connessione non riesce a collegarsi sebbene tutti i parametri (tel, account, dns ecc ) siano correttamente impostati. Credo ci voglia uno script, ma non sono ancora in grado di crearlo da solo oppure il mio modem non è compatibile. Ringrazio chi mi potrà dare un aiuto. Michele __ TuttoTISCALI e' il tuo nuovo contratto di telefonia! Chiami in tutta Italia, giorno e notte, al prezzo di un'urbana Ti colleghi ad Internet e spendi meno di un'urbana http://point.tiscali.it/tuttotiscali/webmail.html
Re: [newbie-it] Stabilità
Alle 18:31, venerdì 7 giugno 2002, hai scritto: Ciao ragazzi. sono all'ultima spiaggia: Sono oramai un paio di anni che maneggio il pinguino ma ultimamente mi sta mettendo in crisi: la mdk8.2 NON E STABILE piantamenti errori strani di ogni tipo, addirittura non posso accedere a volte a delle cartelle di root tramite root il floppy non ne vuole sapere, devo addirittura resettare. poi sulle partizioni fat non ne parliamo:errori di permessi come coriandoli a carnevale.. (sempre da root) Ma a voi va tutto??? Sinceramente l'avevo installata sul mio portatile e ha funzionato in maniera egragia tutto (tranne il winmodem - ma quello è un caso a parte). Credo che dovresti verificare se hai dei problemi di hardware. Hai installato in modo esperto o hai lasciato che facesse tutto da sola? Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - A.I.P. n. 2075 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 8.1 on Pentium III 688 Mhz Linux Machine # 103048 Linux User # 203143
Re: [newbie-it] Partizione NTFS
Alle 10:18, sabato 8 giugno 2002, hai scritto: Vorrei cambiare sul secondo HD la partizione di XP da FAT 32 a NTFS( ovviamente reinstallando tutto) ma prima vorrei trovare la soluzione Non hai bisogno di reinstallare, c'è una utility in xp che fa questo lavoro. piu' semplice per aggiornare MDK8.2 per cui vi pogo alcune domande : Mi conviene cambiare la partizione direttamente da Linux oppure installare direttamente XP e poi configurare GRUB ? ( in questo caso non so come fare.. ). GRUB e' capace di far partire una partizione NTFS ? Un'ultima soluzione ( quella piu' dispendiosa ...) sarebbe quella di installare XP con NTFS e poi fare un rapido aggiornamento di MDK . che mi consigliate ? Ciao, Francesco Non ho capito, a questo punto, ma xp ce l'hai già installato o no? ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - A.I.P. n. 2075 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux 8.1 on Pentium III 688 Mhz Linux Machine # 103048 Linux User # 203143
Re: [newbie-it] Isdn4linux
E come hai fatto a farglielo vedere??? Io sono SECOLI che ci provo ma piu di una periferica sconosciuta con bus usb non riesco a fargli vedere. ciao Junkie At 10.18 08/06/2002 +0200, you wrote: Buongiorno a tuti, sono un nuovo utente di mandrake 8.2, alle prese con i miei piccoli poblemi. Configurando il mio account internete riesco a vedere il mio modem isdn usb-trust ma al momento della connessione non riesce a collegarsi sebbene tutti i parametri (tel, account, dns ecc ) siano correttamente impostati. Credo ci voglia uno script, ma non sono ancora in grado di crearlo da solo oppure il mio modem non è compatibile. Ringrazio chi mi potrà dare un aiuto. Michele __ TuttoTISCALI e' il tuo nuovo contratto di telefonia! Chiami in tutta Italia, giorno e notte, al prezzo di un'urbana Ti colleghi ad Internet e spendi meno di un'urbana http://point.tiscali.it/tuttotiscali/webmail.html
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Re: [newbie-it] Isdn4linux
In un altro luogo e in un altro tempo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] esclamo': Configurando il mio account internete riesco a vedere il mio modem isdn usb-trust ma al momento della connessione non riesce a collegarsi sebbene tutti i parametri (tel, account, dns ecc ) siano correttamente impostati. Credo ci voglia uno script, ma non sono ancora in grado di crearlo da solo oppure il mio modem non è compatibile. http://www.linux-usb.org http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/drivers.php A prescindere dal supporto, isdn4linux non farebbe al caso tuo (dato che AFAIK serve solo per le schede isdn interne), per un TA USB esterno la procedura e' diversa (serve un driver perche' venga riconosciuto correttamente ... ma quel driver non e' disponibile, perche' sembra che la casa madre supporti solo finestre e cmq pare che mantenga il rigoroso segreto sulle specifiche). Per concludere non credo che sia supportato, dato non ho trovato niente a proposito. P.S. un consiglio (riprendendo quanto giustamente ha gia' detto Andrea Celli un po' di tempo fa): contatta il servizio clienti della casa produttrice e chiedi se linux e' supportato dal loro aggeggio X (facendo finta di doverlo ancora comprare), se ricevi risposta negativa, simula una sorpresa sdegnata e fai sapere a questo che hanno appena perso un cliente, dato che sarai per forza *costretto* a rivolgerti ad un concorrente. [non servira' a niente .. ma dopo qualche mese qualche vago dubbio sorgera' anche al piu' grande venditore finestro-dipendente]. Non sarebbe male far sapere qualcosa anche al rivenditore dove ti servi normalmente (anche se sara' quello a cui forse importera' meno). Per il futuro ovviamente, se conti di restare a linux per piu' di un mordi e fuggi, controlla prima dell'acquisto la compatibilita' e magari privilegia produttori piu' seri e piu' aperti. -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc2
Re: [newbie-it] Stabilità
Alle 10:40, sabato 8 giugno 2002, hai scritto: Alle 18:31, venerdì 7 giugno 2002, hai scritto: Ciao ragazzi. sono all'ultima spiaggia: Sono oramai un paio di anni che maneggio il pinguino ma ultimamente mi sta mettendo in crisi: la mdk8.2 NON E STABILE piantamenti errori strani di ogni tipo, addirittura non posso accedere a volte a delle cartelle di root tramite root il floppy non ne vuole sapere, devo addirittura resettare. poi sulle partizioni fat non ne parliamo:errori di permessi come coriandoli a carnevale.. (sempre da root) Ma a voi va tutto??? Sinceramente l'avevo installata sul mio portatile e ha funzionato in maniera egragia tutto (tranne il winmodem - ma quello è un caso a parte). Credo che dovresti verificare se hai dei problemi di hardware. Hai installato in modo esperto o hai lasciato che facesse tutto da sola? Ciao Sandro Grazie sandro ho installato in modo esperto e il mio hardware va bene perchè con altre versioni va bene ed anche altre distribuzioni
Re: [newbie-it] Stabilità
Anche io ho avuto lo stesso problema col floppy per due volte di seguito provando La stessa cosa a me se trascino con il mouse il file da copiare. Va bene se faccio copia F7 ecc.
Re: [newbie-it] MDKe usb
In un altro luogo e in un altro tempo, lillo lallo esclamo': installato MDK 8.1 [..] esco da linux,durante i processi di chiusura si blocca su : disconnect usb device 1 disconnect usb device 2. Guarda sul sito di MDK, nella sezione riguardante gli 'Errata' della 8.1 (e' un errore noto e c'e' il modo per risolverlo) -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc2
Re: [newbie-it] Stabilità
la mdk 8.2 NON E STABILE Mi verrebbe da supporlo anche a me :'-( Ma a voi va tutto??? a me non funziona lo scanner... per il resto funziona tutto No. Ho grossi problemi allo spegnimento della macchina ... non lo fa sempre ma ogni 5/6 volte si pianta! E (per me) non c'e' piu' nulla da fare se non resettare! :- aggiornamenti sul sito non ce ne sono.. e allora mi devo sparare o cambiare distribuzione? o tornare alla 8.1? anche io avevo quel problema: non si spegnva da solo e tutte le volte doveva recuperare il filesystem; io ho risolto passando da ext2 a ext3. da quel momento ha improvvisamente smesso di dare problemi! __ MMS: prova i nuovi messaggi multimediali! http://mobile.lycos.it/mobile/local/mms/
Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How can I speed up Konqueror?
Hi, I am using Konqueror to browse HTML documents on my hard disk and the speed is painfully slow, especially when the file is first read. How can I speed it up? I am not out of CPU cycles, I am not out of memory, I am not out of swap and the machine is not the problem. BTW. I am too chicken to try KDE 3.0.1. I am still using KDE 2.2.2. Thanx, Seedkum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem
i don't know what's hsp? micromodem ? i have a Compaq 56k Modem , and that will support DSL and that's PCI and i think that's a software modem no harware modem but i'm not sure ... thanks bye - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem do you have the hsp56k micromodem?
Re: [newbie] Restoring partition table
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:07:07 +0300 (EET DST) Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This'll teach me not to mess around with dangerous operating systems. I installed Norton Utilities in my Windows partition, and it seems to have rewritten my partition table so that my Linux partitions don't exist any more. Rescue mode in the CD won't work (I can get a command line, of course, but can't restore LILO or mount any partitions) and that old diagnositc favourite, upgrade packages only mode fails to find the superblocks and gives me messages about bad magic. Is there any way I can recreate my old partition table, either from command line or from Windows? Sir Robin the Morose Try partition magic? Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux and Non-Free Software
On Saturday 08 June 2002 02:16, D. Olson wrote: However, he wasn't asking about if there was a free program (which there was and both had been mentioned already), but why a company would charge money for LINUX software... At least that's how I read it... But I guess I am the only one. I think you are correct about what he was asking. It is a natural question, I suppose, for someone new to Linux. Your point was that pay software and Linux are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and of course you are correct. Like you, I have observed that there tends to be a mentality in which Linux people tend to think everything *must* be free. Well, of course that's the goal, and it's what I prefer, but I also realize companies and developers need money to survive. You gave some great examples of how even in cases when we do pay, it is nowhere near what the price would be in the Windows world. In addition to the ones you gave, another great example is any typical boxed Linux distro. The system I can set up with a $30-80 Linux distro would cost thousands in the Windows world. *** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.3 Professional KDE 2.2.1 KMail 1.3.1 This is a Microsoft-free computer Bryan S. Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:07:58 -0600 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Silly Goose! What did you call him?! You need to call him an a**hole like everybody else. Right now!! (Granted--South Park references are probably below most of you :-) Miark *giggles* Nice Miark. That was worth reading, you made my week. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Restoring deleted files with MC
Now that I know where Midnight Commander is, I want to use it to restore a deleted file that has not been either written over or formatted. Some kind soul suggested MC can do this, but how. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem
(hsp is host signal processing) [right?] Jerry. -- "You know, they're growning mechanical trees? They grow to their full height and then they chop themselves down." --Laurie Anderson - Original Message - From: FARSHAD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem i don't know what's hsp? micromodem ? i have a Compaq 56k Modem , and that will support DSL and that's PCI and i think that's a software modem no harware modem but i'm not sure ... thanks bye - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem do you have the hsp56k micromodem?
Re: [newbie] Upgrading LM8.2
Hi Marcia, As Randy said, we need to know more about your motherboard before being able to comment on the maximum memory. But that aside, it sounds to me like you are going to end up with a substantial part of a new PC before you're finished here. I have found that when upgrading to a significantly higher platform like this, you tend to get into diminishing returns very quickly - just moving the bottleneck. Have you considered keeping the current system intact and building a new machine? A 200MHz 128 MB system makes a very nice server! Don't need an extra monitor that way and you get a network to play with :-) Brian On Sat, 2002-06-08 at 12:47, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I have been told that I have maximized my memory with 128 MB of ram since I have a Pentium II MMX processor at a littlle over 200 megahertz. I feel like I am either ready for a new computer or upgrading. I want to have 512 MB of ram. Is there anyway that I can add that to my system now or must I upgrade my motherboard and cpu? If I must upgrade I would like to go with the Athlon-maybe one of the motherboard cpu combo kits. Which one is a very good one that can handle at least 512 MB of ram, and of course work well with Linux Mandrake 8.2? Also, I would like to have USB and a CD burner. I know that I can add a CD burner with the system I have. What is a good CD burner with Linux? I would like USB, too. Do I have to upgrade my motherboard for that or can I add that with the system I have? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mplayer message query
At the moment I have an rpm version of MPlayer nearly working, for DeCss use. This is the messages on startup after selecting files: | DEMUXER:Too many (4096in826973 | | bytes)video packets in the buffer | (screen warning ) Picture is blocked or squared , and what does Demuxer mean anyway. MPlayers is invoked in terminal with , ]#gmplayer dialogues say :- @@@ libmpeg2 returned from sig11... (bad file?) @@@ Encrypted VOB file (not compiled with libcss support)! Read file DOCS/cd-dvd.html @@@ libmpeg2 returned from sig11... (bad file?) @@@ 87% 14% 1.0% 40 0 0% Encrypted VOB file (not compiled with libcss support)! Read file DOCS/cd-dvd.html A: 16.0 V: 12.4 A-V: 3.604 ct: 5.176 1580/1581 89% 14% 1.0% 40 0 0% *** free_stream() called *** Successfully enabled DPMS Segmentation fault http://plf.zarb.org , these are the packages installed in this order, libggi-2.0.1-4mdk.i586.rpm libggi2-2.0.1-4mdk.i586.rpm libmad0-0.14.2b-1mdk.i586.rpm libmp3lame0-3.93-0.20020422.3plf.i586.rpm libmp3lame0-devel-3.93-0.20020422.3plf.i586.rpm win32-codecs-1.01plf.i586.rpm xvid-20020520-2plf.i586.rpm libalsa2-0.9.0.5rc1mdk.i586.rpm mplayer-0.90-0.pre4.4plf.i586.rpm mplayer-fonts-1.0-3plf.noarch.rpm mplayer-skins-1.3-1plf.noarch.rpm mplayer-gui-0.90-0.pre4.4plf.i586.rpm libcss-0.1.0-5.i686.rpm Seems like I have to find libmpeg2, and it seems my choice of libcss isn't liked , yet for just one oh so brief moment there is a picture on immediate startup that then turns to that blocked mush. Sound seems to be there briefly too. Your thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer stops at half work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:14 am, Smiley wrote: Hello, I own an Epson Stylus Photo 810, connected via USB; my OS is LM 8.2: when I try to print both an image or even a simple text file, the printer starts but at a certain point it stops (half first page of a three pages document, the last try); I heard, but don't remember where, I'm not the only one with this kind of trouble... Any suggestion, or link? It does definitely stop permanently? I ask because my Lexmark Z42 frequently stops for 2 or 3 minutes; it's only catching its breath as it suddenly starts up again ... Not sure why this is, but the Z42 is internally quite feeble and is printing at 1200x1200 dpi ... Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AclcCv59vFiSU4YRAi5SAJ9GJ1qHSfwBvdOcx7I/9bORTs1TjQCgz8DR Y6vapyKqPszd0rFA5xQwewE= =vOsB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
sometimes, people many not understand free as in free of charge and free as in freedom to modify. likewise, the GPL and all it's variants all have their little differences. many, myself included, may only have a vague idea of what they mean, especially from a legal standpoint, after going thru all it's revisions. taking into consideration this is a newbie list... - Original Message - From: D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ... On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:23 am, you wrote: Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if there's free software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat. Good grief I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat... I always come across that way, and I don't mean to... I need to learn how to type or communicate or something. Sorry. However, he wasn't asking about if there was a free program (which there was and both had been mentioned already), but why a company would charge money for LINUX software... At least that's how I read it... But I guess I am the only one. Sorry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how can i improve vnc responsiveness?
okay. thanks, i'll take note of that. my cards are all 10/100, and my cables all cat5. i just wanna make sure that spending $$ on the switch will result in a noticeable performance diff. - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] how can i improve vnc responsiveness? On Friday 07 June 2002 02:11 am, you wrote: i'm remote accessing my Mandrake Linux box thru vnc. it's almost unbearably slow. the speed doesn't seem to differ much regardless of color depth, i've tried 8, 15 and 16, so for now, i'm using 15. i'm wondering if upgrading my 10mbps hub to a 100mbps switch will make much of a diff, since the cpu utilization on both the server/client doesn't seem to be much, around 20-30% or is my bottleneck somewhere else? thanks. Server Mandrake Linux 8.2, default install VNCserver run from command line vncserver -geometry 900x700 Client MS Win98 VNCclient 3.3.3r9 from http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ you right about the hub and netcard speed, for sure that is one bottleneck, but just changing the hub does not guaranty that the speed of the connection will change, you might have to setup the cards with their install disk for tbase100 also Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] help needed for Java and Konqueror
thanks for the advice. i tried both the sun jre1.4 and 1.3 neither seems to run the applet properly. guess i'm stuck with dual-booting for the time being. - Original Message - From: Carlos Arigós [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] help needed for Java and Konqueror El Jue 06 Jun 2002 01:50, escribió: hi, i'm trying to get Java working on Konqueror. i'm using Mandrake 8.2, default installation. specifically, my younger brother goes to www.games.com to play monopoly, and i'd like to be able to set it up. right now, i've gone to Konqueror - Settings - Configure Konqueror - Konqueror Browser - Java, checked enable Java globally, but the applet starts loading, but never completes. does anyone know what else i've to do? thank you. If installed, uninstall 'kaffe'. Go to http://wwws.sun.com/software/java2/download.html and D'l 'j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386-rpm.bin' Open a console, log as root and type: ./j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386-rpm.bin If everything go OK you get a file named jre-1.3.1.i386.rpm Run: rpm -ivh jre-1.3.1.i386.rpm Then. open Konqueror and point Konqueror to: /usr/java/jre1.3.1/bin/java Buena suerte. -- el charlie Concordia, Entre Ríos, Argentina Linux MDK 8.2 --El software es como el sexo: --Si es gratis es mejor. Linus Torvalds dixit. 10:28pm up 8 min, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.50, 0.29 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how can i have Windows beside Mandrake ..
On Friday 07 June 2002 18:02 pm, Damian G wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:22:54 -0800 Windows has to be installed in you primary master drive. ( your first HD ) Unless something has changed with XP, which I wouldn't know as I've never used anything newer than 98, this is not quite correct. Windows only needs to believe that it is on the primary master. I still have 98 on a primary slave drive (it's in a caddy and not been in the machine in months as since Mandrake 8.2 I have been Windows free) Windows does need to be installed as Primary Master, you can then change the jumpers and move it to slave and Grub (probably Lilo as well but again I don't know as I am a Grub afficionado) can take care of swapping IDE channels to make Windows believe it is on Primary Master when it is in fact somewhere else. see info Grub for full details if you are interested Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Resize Root Partition for KDE update How?
Hello, I would like to update KDE to 3.0.1 but I don't have enough room in root . However I have 14 gig in home so how do I resize root? Rodney. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading LM8.2
On Friday 07 June 2002 11:59 pm, you wrote: Marcia wrote: I have been told that I have maximized my memory with 128 MB of ram since I have a Pentium II MMX processor at a littlle over 200 megahertz. It would help to know more about your motherboard. Do you know the manufacturer and model number? Has somebody told you that you can't put more than 128 MB on your motherboard? Randy Kramer I feel like I am either ready for a new computer or upgrading. I want to have 512 MB of ram. Is there anyway that I can add that to my system now or must I upgrade my motherboard and cpu? If I must upgrade I would like to go with the Athlon-maybe one of the motherboard cpu combo kits. Which one is a very good one that can handle at least 512 MB of ram, and of course work well with Linux Mandrake 8.2? just remember win9x is limited to 512 megs ram (as I recall) and won't install even if you have 540 megs ram. Also, I would like to have USB and a CD burner. I know that I can add a CD burner with the system I have. What is a good CD burner with Linux? I would like USB, too. Do I have to upgrade my motherboard for that or can I add that with the system I have? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marcia --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Resize Root Partition for KDE update How?
Since KDE 3.0.1 installs into /opt you might be better off reducing the size of /home and creating a new /opt partition. That way you do not have to touch '/' and risk screwing it up. You should be able to do that with diskdrake in Mandrake ControlCentreHardware I've not done it myself, but I believe it will resize partitions without data loss, but instead of taking my word for it you might like to back up your /home first. BTW: My /opt directory holds kde3,wine,crossover and a few other applications and uses 250M of hard drive space. Also the next version of Mandrake will put kde3 back into /usr so you might like to change your partitions again later. HTH derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 11:21 am, Rodney wrote: Hello, I would like to update KDE to 3.0.1 but I don't have enough room in root . However I have 14 gig in home so how do I resize root? Rodney. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mplayer message query
Hi there, Libcss isn't needed any more. Mplayer has it's own built in decoder now. It probably wasn't compiled in with the RPM (legal reasons?). As I have said in previous mails about Mplayer... you will save yourself a lot of time just to compile it yourself. DeCss isn't linked, but built in afaik .. at least it's support is. By just installing the package will not ensure that you can play encrypted DVD's with a pre-built binary. On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, John Richard Smith wrote: At the moment I have an rpm version of MPlayer nearly working, for DeCss use. This is the messages on startup after selecting files: | DEMUXER:Too many (4096in826973 | | bytes)video packets in the buffer | (screen warning ) Picture is blocked or squared , and what does Demuxer mean anyway. MPlayers is invoked in terminal with , ]#gmplayer dialogues say :- libmpeg2 returned from sig11... (bad file?) Encrypted VOB file (not compiled with libcss support)! Read file DOCS/cd-dvd.html Did you read this? It should explain exactly how to compile DVD support into Mplayer. libmpeg2 returned from sig11... (bad file?) 87% 14% 1.0% 40 0 0% Encrypted VOB file (not compiled with libcss support)! Read file DOCS/cd-dvd.html A: 16.0 V: 12.4 A-V: 3.604 ct: 5.176 1580/1581 89% 14% 1.0% 40 0 0% *** free_stream() called *** Successfully enabled DPMS Segmentation fault http://plf.zarb.org , these are the packages installed in this order, libggi-2.0.1-4mdk.i586.rpm libggi2-2.0.1-4mdk.i586.rpm libmad0-0.14.2b-1mdk.i586.rpm libmp3lame0-3.93-0.20020422.3plf.i586.rpm libmp3lame0-devel-3.93-0.20020422.3plf.i586.rpm win32-codecs-1.01plf.i586.rpm xvid-20020520-2plf.i586.rpm libalsa2-0.9.0.5rc1mdk.i586.rpm mplayer-0.90-0.pre4.4plf.i586.rpm mplayer-fonts-1.0-3plf.noarch.rpm mplayer-skins-1.3-1plf.noarch.rpm mplayer-gui-0.90-0.pre4.4plf.i586.rpm libcss-0.1.0-5.i686.rpm As great it is that people try make RPM's of Mplayer for public use, but I still have to see 1 really successful build that works on all systems. In my opinion there is none.. Mplayer builds to YOUR system.. depending on what software / hardware you have. It's not as simple as a simple binary, but a carefully built package designed for performance. You see, they could build DeCss supprt in, but what point does that have if a user doesn't even have a DVD player? Go tho the Mplayer site, download the tarball (new release today) and read the docs, and there should be no problems. Yes it does take time at first, I give you that, but at least then you have a working MPlayer ;-) Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can't login as root
On 8/06/2002, The following message was beamed across the Internet: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:46:13 -0700 Bill Winegarden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I rarely ask questions for others but this one has me stumped. My colleague running LM8.2 has a default (for his hardware) configuration. He created one user. Then, he went to the security configuration utility and set it to high. Now he can't get in the gui login as root. His user account still works and he can 'su' in a terminal. This behaviour seems to have started just after he changed the security setting to high. My research found a possible solution in the /etc/security/access.conf with a missing entry like... -:ALL EXCEPT list of accounts:LOCAL Am I on the right track here? Has anyone come across this one before? Newbie archives don't return anything on this. tia, Bill W. I too had this problem, whether in command line or GUI login. I set security to higher and did not try any other settings as I wanted to run mail server... -- Regards, Mark Van Bruggen [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is always a way, it's just reality that's the problem !! == Mark Van Bruggen Microsoft OEM Certified Phone : 07 4926 4900 Computer Systems Supplier Mobile: 04 3886 4900 Internet / Computer Technician E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockhampton QLD AU == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading LM8.2
I would like USB, too. Do I have to upgrade my motherboard for that or can I add that with the system I have? You can buy a good PCI card (to slot in your comp) with a few USB ports, no need to upgrade motherboard, or if you're really rich you can buy overpriced monitors with a built in hub :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xcdroast and burning CD's.
On Friday 07 June 2002 07:53 pm, you wrote: I ust'a think the same, but lately burnin from the CL is easier, quicker, and safer than any GUI. I recently thought Gcombust to be the most reliable, it's since proved me wrong :( Then I discovered how quick and simple it was to burn from the CL. Its been so odd about GUI frontends for burning here. Under 8.0, I used Koncd which worked great. Then, under 8.1, Koncd was broke so I used X-CD-Roast which worked great. Now under 8.2, X-CD-Roast won't see any CD in my DVD drive (reader) and I've been using Gcombust which (so far) has worked fine. What problems did you have with it Tom? man cdrecord and read the CD-writing howto. Unlike most docs, they even include examples!!;) Methinks I better do just that... ;-) PS Maybe we'll come full circle again under the next release and Koncd will start working again! grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how can i improve vnc responsiveness?
Stormjumper wrote: okay. thanks, i'll take note of that. my cards are all 10/100, and my cables all cat5. i just wanna make sure that spending $$ on the switch will result in a noticeable performance diff. I strongly suspect that the hub is *not* a major bottleneck. How many other computers are on the LAN? Some things to try (if both computers are on the LAN): * Interconnect the two computers you are concerned with by a crossover cable. * Avoid other traffic through the hub by temporarily disconnecting any computers other than the two you are concerned with. In my experience, products like VNC (PCAnywhere, etc., etc., etc.) are just dogs, and very slow. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Dan W. Dooley wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? I won't try to explain -- that would be a major minefield. I can confirm that this is not an unexpected result. I have similar experiences with Win95 and any Linux I've tried. My recommendation is get more RAM -- a lot more RAM -- a minimum of 256 MB. (My standard motherboards of many years only support 128 MB, so I've replaced a few so far -- the others mostly still run Windows for several reasons.) Another traditional recommendation is to use a lighter weight window manager than KDE or GNOME, like ICEWM, BlackBox, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] how can i improve vnc responsiveness?
I had posted some earlier comments on this and never saw the post so perhaps it got lost. Anyhow, some time back I tested several of the remote control programs, needing something fairly high speed on my 100 mbps LAN. VNC, PCAnywhere, Remote Administrator (by Famatech), and a couple of freebies I can't recall. Granted this was on a MS network so I can't speak for Linux results, but of all of them, VNC was practically unusable. Between RA and PCA, the speed differences were slight (a slight edge going to RA) but VNC wasn't even in the ball park. This is with everything at 100, CAT5 compliant, and using a switch rather than a hub. I would not call PCA and comparable products dogs. I WOULD call VNC a dog. That may not translate to the Linux world, but it does say that presuming the network is functioning normal for other networking operations, the remote control software itself needs a second look. Hopefully there are choices out there. Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle - Original Message - From: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] how can i improve vnc responsiveness? In my experience, products like VNC (PCAnywhere, etc., etc., etc.) are just dogs, and very slow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
mostly because you are not comparing them in the right light.. real linux has no GUI and doesnt' need one.. all of linux's work is on the console.. the GUI is eye candy for people that don't know or like the console.. Also, most people don't know exactly whats running on a linux machine.. there are tons of processes that you can kill which will speed things up.. remember that postfix is a full mail server, and there are a ton of others... Mostly though, because the GUI is optional, its an addon application, ,so it won't be as fast.. windows gui is integrated with the OS.. (it is the OS..) so it is much more in touch with the onderlying hardware. The other reason I imagine is that most of the window managers are works in progress and the code changes alot.. once they get a good code base, things will improve no end.. but, I run 8.2 on a 233mmx with 160mb ram and I run win2000 (and now XP) on a PII 366, (with 280mb ram) and the linux box seems to hold its own very well against the higher powered PII machine. It could be that you need to look into optimising your linux box for performance.. start with hdparm and your hard disks,, and check top to see whats chewing your ram and CPU.. and decide if you need it. regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan W. Dooley Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2002 8:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
I understand. It is disappointing, and to me (my humble opinion) counters the claims of Linux being a good choice on more modest hardware. At least that was always the impression I had. The other machine I had tried it on some months ago is a much faster one and at the time had 256 meg. of RAM and a much bigger harddrive partition on which I was dual booting between Linux and Win 2000Pro. I like the full featured aspect of KDE and though I haven't examined Gnome that closely, it looks interesting. I would not want to go to something severely stripped down. Not if I'm ever going to think in terms of a Windows replacement, which I'd like to think of. Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle - Original Message - From: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs Dan W. Dooley wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? Ideas? I won't try to explain -- that would be a major minefield. I can confirm that this is not an unexpected result. I have similar experiences with Win95 and any Linux I've tried. My recommendation is get more RAM -- a lot more RAM -- a minimum of 256 MB. (My standard motherboards of many years only support 128 MB, so I've replaced a few so far -- the others mostly still run Windows for several reasons.) Another traditional recommendation is to use a lighter weight window manager than KDE or GNOME, like ICEWM, BlackBox, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring partition table
Robin Turner wrote: This'll teach me not to mess around with dangerous operating systems. I installed Norton Utilities in my Windows partition, and it seems to have rewritten my partition table so that my Linux partitions don't exist any more. Rescue mode in the CD won't work (I can get a command line, of course, but can't restore LILO or mount any partitions) and that old diagnositc favourite, upgrade packages only mode fails to find the superblocks and gives me messages about bad magic. Is there any way I can recreate my old partition table, either from command line or from Windows? Sir Robin the Morose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com ronib: There is a program on Mandrake 8.2 cd1 in /sbin called rescuept. Boot from cd1, press f1, and follow instrucrtions. But before you do this go to www.mandrakeuser.org/doc/admin/arecov3.html and read the instructions. ther are not instructions on the resuce cd (that I could find). Good luck Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:39:28 -0500 Dan W. Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the full featured aspect of KDE and though I haven't examined Gnome that closely, it looks interesting. I would not want to go to something severely stripped down. Not if I'm ever going to think in terms of a Windows replacement, which I'd like to think of. I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I don't think Linux is a replacement for Windows. Linux is a robust *nix clone. I think you can use Linux instead of Windows. But I personally hope that Linux is never a replacement for Windows. I don't like Windows and don't want Linux to be just like Windows. IMHO LinuxGeek -- Contact me: AIM: LinuxRulezMan ICQ: 27396393 http://linuxgeek.shacknet.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Dan W. Dooley wrote: I understand. It is disappointing, and to me (my humble opinion) counters the claims of Linux being a good choice on more modest hardware. At least that was always the impression I had. Yeah, I feel the same way -- as a nondiscriminating listener, I heard Linux was more powerful and faster and more stable and ... -- I sometimes joke that the statements would be more accurate if the word and was replaced with the word or. I guess Linux can be a good choice on more modest hardware if you stick to the CLI. Nevertheless, I support and advocate Linux, because we (the people) need to make sure that Microsoft has viable competition. Randy Kramer The other machine I had tried it on some months ago is a much faster one and at the time had 256 meg. of RAM and a much bigger harddrive partition on which I was dual booting between Linux and Win 2000Pro. I like the full featured aspect of KDE and though I haven't examined Gnome that closely, it looks interesting. I would not want to go to something severely stripped down. Not if I'm ever going to think in terms of a Windows replacement, which I'd like to think of. Dan W. Dooley wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Dan W. Dooley wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? There you have it... Gnome or KDE. To be honest I haven't had any experience with KDE the last year or so, but I do know that Gnome is really becomming dissapointing in terms of speed. I first started using Linux which Redhat 6.1 or something, and in those days Gnome was a simple but efficient desktop. These days, especially since Mandrake's encorporation of Gnome with Nautilus, it has become a sad story. Sorry if I offend anyone, this is not ment to raise anyone's hair, but Nautilus is more usefull as an egg-timer.. damn it's so slow. Yes it looks good, just like Gnome does, but speed and efficiency is what I believe Linux is about. I have been using Fluxbox for the last 5 months now or so, and it's so damn fast compared to Gnome. Simple and Sweet. This is not an andertisment for Fluxbox, as there are many simplified Desktop managers around. Maybe give another one a try, and see if your performance increases? Just my 2.2 Euro-cents ;-) Greetings Ralph An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer stops at half work
On Saturday 08 June 2002 05:07 am, Alastair Scott wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:14 am, Smiley wrote: Hello, I own an Epson Stylus Photo 810, connected via USB; my OS is LM 8.2: when I try to print both an image or even a simple text file, the printer starts but at a certain point it stops (half first page of a three pages document, the last try); I heard, but don't remember where, I'm not the only one with this kind of trouble... Any suggestion, or link? It does definitely stop permanently? I ask because my Lexmark Z42 frequently stops for 2 or 3 minutes; it's only catching its breath as it suddenly starts up again ... Not sure why this is, but the Z42 is internally quite feeble and is printing at 1200x1200 dpi ... Alastair Alastair: Have you tried backing off on the resolution? 600 x 600 works well for me, and I've found that 300 x 300 is adequate for text-based material. Less pixels, less information, quicker response. Just a thought... -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WTF?????
I just got exactly the same returned E-mail. I resent it and it went through fine the second time. Something tells me it's a problem with the mail-server. On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, D. Olson wrote: I get this message when I send some messages to the list: This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason:5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required. -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:11 am, D. Olson wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 11:50 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:12:01 -0400 D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:24, you wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:23, Derek Byram wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 15:03, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: Oh tks! ;-) But as someone has mentioned before... this kind of thread is only possible due to the subscribers maturity level as well as nice sense of humor and fellowship! Ricardo Castanho I can't help but laugh at what this thread has become Some file permisions needed fixing and a setting in postfix On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: I was having problems sending to the list, but I fixed it. fixed what? ;-) On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Jays test works. Jay who? What thread??? Don't push it ;o) Don't push what Why can't anyone speak coherently? PS Why can't you leave my sig in the mail ;p What sig??? i told you, everyone. this thread belongs to the expert list now we are all confused.. What expert list? New record for posts per byte. Brevity rules. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fw: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
- Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 sorry, i filled my profile for mandrake experts and totally forgot to include it here; -qdi advance 10e mobo -viewsonic 70e monitor -512 mbs ram -nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 -intel pentium 3 797mhz everything works great on my windows partition so. i'm assuming it's a linux thing. usually while manipulating a window, i.e. minimizing, restoring the screen locks. i may or may not be able to still move the mouse but i can't do anything to the windows that are up or access the command line. which forces me to manually reboot. this happens about every 10 minutes. n.b. no funky overclocking etc, i assume linux is managing my memory, like i said it's running great on the o/s everybody loves to hate. thanks - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xcdroast and burning CD's.
On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:10 am, darklord wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 07:53 pm, you wrote: I ust'a think the same, but lately burnin from the CL is easier, quicker, and safer than any GUI. I recently thought Gcombust to be the most reliable, it's since proved me wrong :( Then I discovered how quick and simple it was to burn from the CL. Its been so odd about GUI frontends for burning here. Under 8.0, I used Koncd which worked great. Then, under 8.1, Koncd was broke so I used X-CD-Roast which worked great. Now under 8.2, X-CD-Roast won't see any CD in my DVD drive (reader) and I've been using Gcombust which (so far) has worked fine. What problems did you have with it Tom? When I'd try to load up a dir, Gcombust (and eroaster too IIRC) would skip one or two files sayin they didn't exist. 'Course they did and I could burn a CD of all the files usin the CL. Any of the various GUI's froze up at one time or another, usually while selecting files, or making the image to burn. I use to like Koncd, but haven't had any luck gettin it to run since Mdk7.2. Now I can start to burn a CD in less time than most GUI's take to load just by typing 'bdcd' cd_image, 'bacd' (in the dir where the wav's are), or 'biso' filename.iso I just got tired of foolin with GUI front ends. I suspect most all of 'em just haven't kept up with bleeding edge distros like Mandrake. alias bdcd=cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 -data (need to make cd_image first, eg, 'mkisofs -r -o cd_image dir') alias biso=cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 alias bacd=cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 -pad -audio *.wav -- Tom BrinkmanCorpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Something doesn't have to be just like something else to work the same way. What I mean by work the same way is, to be an environment within which I can run the applications I need to run to fulfill my reasons for using the computer in the first place. If my intent is to spend time playing with, tweaking, patching, exploring, experimenting, etc., then fine, a CLI based OS is probably fine. If on the other hand, I want - or need boxes which set there ready and host the applications I need, and allow me to do so without having to type in a long string of commands and parameters and whatever each time I want to run one of the apps, or worse yet, to upgrade a driver or app, I've got to download some code and go through a compilation process, which may or may not work. My interest IS looking for a Windows replacement. Windows (NT, 2000) work just fine and do everything I want and need them to do. However, I, like most if not all of you all have had it up to our ears with MS and their bull. I am dead serious in that I think MS needs real competition. Not only in the server world but on the desktop as well. No OS will ever be serious competition for Windows unless it can be a viable replacement for Windows. And no, you can't use Linux instead of Windows unless you can do with it what you can with Windows. I've got a well functioning domain network here at my house running 2000 Server and previously NT Server hosting several other computers, running 24/7 with none of the claimed MS crashes. So, my expectations for a replacement OS are very high. Sorry for the rant, folks but this has been a sore point for me for a long time. Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle - Original Message - From: Jon Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I don't think Linux is a replacement for Windows. Linux is a robust *nix clone. I think you can use Linux instead of Windows. But I personally hope that Linux is never a replacement for Windows. I don't like Windows and don't want Linux to be just like Windows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem
On Saturday 04 December 1999 03:10 pm, FARSHAD wrote: i don't know what's hsp? micromodem ? i have a Compaq 56k Modem , and that will support DSL and that's PCI and i think that's a software modem no harware modem but i'm not sure ... thanks bye - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem do you have the hsp56k micromodem? Farshad: It's a pretty good bet that you have a winmodem. There may be a driver for it, or you may be out of luck. First, you're going to have to find exactly which model you have -- Compaq has offered a number of different products which meet the above description. The best way to identify your modem is to open up the box and look at the card. Write down the FCC ID number, chipset identification (Lucent, Rockwell, etc), and any other information. If you're lucky, you may even find a Compaq model number. You can translate the FCC number to manufacturer and model number using the search engine at www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/. If it is not practical to open up your case, then you may be able to identify the modem from any literature that accompanied your computer, or go to the Compaq site. When you do have the model number, go to www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. Part way down the page, there will be a link Download the entire table. Do that, and you should be able to learn something about your modem. Hint: Use your browser's search function; it saves a lot of scrolling. Another good source of information is at linmodems.org. Good luck, -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 10:13:05 -0500 Dan W. Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something doesn't have to be just like something else to work the same way. What I mean by work the same way is, to be an environment within which I can run the applications I need to run to fulfill my reasons for using the computer in the first place. I'm with you, I know what its like not liking MS. But the point I'm trying to make is, 1. If you don't like the speed of linux use something else. This is not a personal attack, so please don't take it that way. I just get tired of hearing people bashing linux and saying well I can do it in windows. Great! Then use windows. Linux and windows are NOT the same OS. They don't work the same way, they don't call on hardware the same way and therefore can NOT be campared the same way. Apples are Apples and Oranges are Oranges. Would go to your grocer and say, hey I don't like these Apples they taste like oranges? Again Linux is NOT a replacement for Windows. As Linux is NOT a replacement for Unix or BSD. You can USE linux, just as you can USE windows or Unix or BSD. What you can't do, is expect Linux or Unix to work and act like Windows. Again, Linux is not a replacement for windows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 June 2002 11:16 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:23 am, you wrote: Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if there's free software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat. Good grief I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat... I always come across that way, and I don't mean to... I need to learn how to type or communicate or something. well if it helps it didn't sound like an attack to me, but a well explained answer to the question. maybe we lack (have?) the same communication skills... dammit! ;) - -- My job is bring comfort to the disturbed, and disturb the comfortable. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AiSqBwq+ZwvIN/oRAp0zAJ9opVLDVjLTpPxMVTEVGXcjzyhP/ACfQgLn fFCAZtPdFiIa89mfNOIz9Mg= =Z70S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring partition table
ai4a wrote: Robin Turner wrote: This'll teach me not to mess around with dangerous operating systems. I installed Norton Utilities in my Windows partition, and it seems to have rewritten my partition table so that my Linux partitions don't exist any more. Rescue mode in the CD won't work (I can get a command line, of course, but can't restore LILO or mount any partitions) and that old diagnositc favourite, upgrade packages only mode fails to find the superblocks and gives me messages about bad magic. Is there any way I can recreate my old partition table, either from command line or from Windows? Sir Robin the Morose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com ronib: There is a program on Mandrake 8.2 cd1 in /sbin called rescuept. Boot from cd1, press f1, and follow instrucrtions. But before you do this go to www.mandrakeuser.org/doc/admin/arecov3.html and read the instructions. ther are not instructions on the resuce cd (that I could find). Good luck Tried rescuept to no avail. Eventually I got so fed up I decided to do a clean reinstall. My partition table was so badly mangled I had to remove my Windows partition even to do that. Fortunately (a) I'd backed up a lot of data to my Win partition not so long ago and (b) I'd set up my office box with FTP, so I just needed to download an FTP client for Windows, then upload my stuff. Things are now back to normal, except that I have no Windows yet, which I can live with, as I'm not in the mod for playing games just now. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Jon Doe wrote: I'm with you, I know what its like not liking MS. But the point I'm trying to make is, 1. If you don't like the speed of linux use something else. Or change Linux. This is not a personal attack, so please don't take it that way. I just get tired of hearing people bashing linux and saying well I can do it in windows. Great! Then use windows. Linux and windows are NOT the same OS. They don't work the same way, they don't call on hardware the same way and therefore can NOT be campared the same way. Apples are Apples and Oranges are Oranges. Would go to your grocer and say, hey I don't like these Apples they taste like oranges? Again Linux is NOT a replacement for Windows. As Linux is NOT a replacement for Unix or BSD. You can USE linux, just as you can USE windows or Unix or BSD. What you can't do, is expect Linux or Unix to work and act like Windows. There are different levels to consider, but at several of those, yes, you (or anyone) can expect to Linux to work and act like Windows. Isn't this somewhat the point of projects like Wine, Winex, Win4Lin, etc.? Speaking of levels, I'd like Linux to have all the conveniences and applications of Windows, but with none of the problems. (I try not to ask for too much ;-) Have a good day! Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Randy Kramer wrote: The other machine I had tried it on some months ago is a much faster one and at the time had 256 meg. of RAM and a much bigger harddrive partition on which I was dual booting between Linux and Win 2000Pro. I like the full featured aspect of KDE and though I haven't examined Gnome that closely, it looks interesting. I would not want to go to something severely stripped down. Not if I'm ever going to think in terms of a Windows replacement, which I'd like to think of. So is it a case of comparing apples and pears (i.e. recent versions of KDE with old versions of Windows)? At least KDE will run on my office machine, whereas I doubt if XP would (it only has 64MB of RAM). Like it or not, desktops and applications that want to be full-featured tend to assume that people have at the very least 128MB of RAM on at least a 500MHz CPU, preferably more and faster. I'd be interested to see performance compared between XP and Mandrake 8.2/KDE, with both boxes running the same kinds of services with the same level of security (well, to the extent that XP can get the same level of security!). Sir Robin, now happily back in KDE Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xcdroast and burning CD's.
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 10:09:36 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:10 am, darklord wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 07:53 pm, you wrote: I ust'a think the same, but lately burnin from the CL is easier, quicker, and safer than any GUI. I recently thought Gcombust to be the most reliable, it's since proved me wrong :( Then I discovered how quick and simple it was to burn from the CL. Its been so odd about GUI frontends for burning here. Under 8.0, I used Koncd which worked great. Then, under 8.1, Koncd was broke so I used X-CD-Roast which worked great. Now under 8.2, X-CD-Roast won't see any CD in my DVD drive (reader) and I've been using Gcombust which (so far) has worked fine. What problems did you have with it Tom? When I'd try to load up a dir, Gcombust (and eroaster too IIRC) would skip one or two files sayin they didn't exist. 'Course they did and I could burn a CD of all the files usin the CL. Any of the various GUI's froze up at one time or another, usually while selecting files, or making the image to burn. I use to like Koncd, but haven't had any luck gettin it to run since Mdk7.2. Now I can start to burn a CD in less time than most GUI's take to load just by typing 'bdcd' cd_image, 'bacd' (in the dir where the wav's are), or 'biso' filename.iso I just got tired of foolin with GUI front ends. I suspect most all of 'em just haven't kept up with bleeding edge distros like Mandrake. alias bdcd=cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 -data (need to make cd_image first, eg, 'mkisofs -r -o cd_image dir') alias biso=cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 alias bacd=cdrecord -v -eject speed=8 dev=0,0 -pad -audio *.wav I'm with you on this one, man. I spent so much time trying to configure the gui that I hated it. I didn't realize how easy it was to burn from the CL, now it's all I use. Haven't gotten around to making aliases yet, though. Good idear! I used this page to learn CL burning: http://www.linuxdocs.org/sln/cdcommands/ -- Todd Slater Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education. (Bertrand Russell) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
Well I see nothing in your description to indicate it is a video card problem. The Geforce2MX is one of the most common cards around and is known to work in Linux with either the proprietary 'nvidia' driver or the Opensource 'nv' driver. Do not worry about 'i686' RPMs. Your P3 is able to run i686,i586,i486,or i386 optimised code. I would still be suspicious of your hardware. You would be surprised how often we get mails like this in which the user says It works fine in Windows, and then it turns out there is a hardware fault. This is especially true of memory. For some reason Windows seems to be very tolerant of bad memory. I would suggest 1/ Taking out your memory modules (if you are sufficiently technically competent) and cleaning the contacts with a pencil rubber (or eraser depending on which country you live in) Ensure your BIOS is using the correct memory timings for your memory chips. 2/ Make a memtest86 boot floppy and test the memory thoroughly as described in this post http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg94190.html 3/ Another reason could be an IRQ conflict between two devices in your computer. If you have any components you can remove such as Ethernet adapters try taking them out for a while and see if the freeezes go away. If you do have an IRQ problem we can show you how to fix it. 4/ If you do get a freeze. Try to avoid hitting that reset button. You hopefully selected a journalised filesystem when you installed Linux such as Ext3, XFS, or ReiserFS which are much more tolerent of resets than the old Ext2 system. But all the same the 'graceful' way to kill the system is Alt+Sysreq+r Alt+Sysreq+s Alt+Sysreq+e Alt+Sysreq+b HTH derek sorry, i filled my profile for mandrake experts and totally forgot to include it here; -qdi advance 10e mobo -viewsonic 70e monitor -512 mbs ram -nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 -intel pentium 3 797mhz everything works great on my windows partition so. i'm assuming it's a linux thing. usually while manipulating a window, i.e. minimizing, restoring the screen locks. i may or may not be able to still move the mouse but i can't do anything to the windows that are up or access the command line. which forces me to manually reboot. this happens about every 10 minutes. n.b. no funky overclocking etc, i assume linux is managing my memory, like i said it's running great on the o/s everybody loves to hate. thanks - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, thanks - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
robin wrote: Randy Kramer wrote: Just for the record, I didn't write what you attributed to me. I think Dan W. Dooley wrote it, but I'm not absolutely sure. So is it a case of comparing apples and pears (i.e. recent versions of KDE with old versions of Windows)? Perhaps. I've made this comparison / complaint with Win95 vs. Caldera 2.2, 2.4, RedHat 5.2, 6.0, 6.2, Mandrake 6.0, 6.2, 7.0, 7.2, 8.1, and I'm now installing Mandrake 8.2. I've never had the need to upgrade beyond Win95, and don't plan to spend the money to do so. (I have worked on a few comparable machines with Win98, and saw no real difference in speed.) Win 95 has worked well for me with 32 MB or less. (I now have 64 MB installed.) At least KDE will run on my office machine, whereas I doubt if XP would (it only has 64MB of RAM). Like it or not, desktops and applications that want to be full-featured tend to assume that people have at the very least 128MB of RAM on at least a 500MHz CPU, preferably more and faster. I'd be interested to see performance compared between XP and Mandrake 8.2/KDE, with both boxes running the same kinds of services with the same level of security (well, to the extent that XP can get the same level of security!). Sir Robin, now happily back in KDE I agree, I expect to stay with KDE, perhaps using a few GNOME (and other non-KDE) applications. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2
Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 sorry, i filled my profile for mandrake experts and totally forgot to include it here; -qdi advance 10e mobo -viewsonic 70e monitor -512 mbs ram -nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 400 -intel pentium 3 797mhz everything works great on my windows partition so. i'm assuming it's a linux thing. usually while manipulating a window, i.e. minimizing, restoring the screen locks. i may or may not be able to still move the mouse but i can't do anything to the windows that are up or access the command line. which forces me to manually reboot. this happens about every 10 minutes. n.b. no funky overclocking etc, i assume linux is managing my memory, like i said it's running great on the o/s everybody loves to hate. thanks - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Fw: nvidia and man 8.2 Lots of people can try to help you, but we need more information. What hardware do you have? video card, monitor, motherboard etc What do you mean by 'freezing? How do you know it's a video card problem? What are you doing when it happens? If you are getting random system freezes my first instinct would be a memory problem. You are not overclocking or using 'aggressive' memory settings are you? Do not be afraid to give too much info. It is better than too little. derek On Saturday 08 June 2002 4:02 am, Rainer wrote: - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: nvidia and man 8.2 hello, i'm relatively new to linux and just bought a standard 8.2 box. i was extremely surprised when my monitor continuely froze, since my nvidia geforce graphic's card worked fine on 8.1. i was told at mandrake experts to download the latest drivers, which i did, but unfortuanately there were none for i686 architecture (i was told to install the i586). my monitor is still freezing. does anyone here have a solution for this problem, It seems to be the same problem as I had some time back and posted here. The glitch, whatever it is, is in the kernel. My solution (well, workaround) was to reinstall Mandrake 8.0, then do an upgrade packages only upgrade to 8.2, then boot from my old kernel. A more elegant (though still not entirely satisfying) approach would be to install your old kernel in addition to the new one (haven't tried it, but it ought to work for downgrades just like it does for upgrades). Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 06:39 am, Dan W. Dooley did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I understand. It is disappointing, and to me (my humble opinion) counters the claims of Linux being a good choice on more modest hardware. At least that was always the impression I had. sadly you are not making the best compare here. 8.x with kde is more like the version of windows due out after xp :) seriously, to windows, cpu rules. to linux it is RAM. my wife has a dual box with 2000 and 8.2 and if i remove half her RAM it is the same way, but with the 158 or so she has, 8.2 with kde3 is much faster than 2000. enough so in fact that she now hates 2000. also, nt, 2000, 98 and 95 compare to older mandrake versions. like 7.x, depending. compare nt to 7.1. the point of modest hardware is that it can be made useful, not that it can be made into a powerful machine. a p75 with low RAM makes a great firewall for example, but a poor main computer. linux is wonderful, but it isn't magic. - -- Computers are like air conditioners they stop working properly if you open windows. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AjWjBwq+ZwvIN/oRAqUoAJ9izDA9inlWQj9qWTSvHro3qQ2zXQCfZv/I CuFVTgm0pagGkhcf8rMveiw= =gYBX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:54 am, robin did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I'd be interested to see performance compared between XP and Mandrake 8.2/KDE, with both boxes running the same kinds of services with the same level of security (well, to the extent that XP can get the same level of security!). as i said in another msg, i can compare 8.2/kde3 to 2000 on a dual boot, and 8.2 is the same or slightly faster, kde3 actually speeds things up in most cases. my wife now curses her (faster cpu, more ram) work machine running 2000 becausse her slower home linux machine beats it hands down. if i could make her hp scanner run in linux it wouldn't be a dual boot anymore. - -- I do not believe that I am dreaming this life, but I can not prove that I am not. -Bertrand Russell shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AjcqBwq+ZwvIN/oRApcPAJ99vau5LgRfaSTo4eEqEY8URiT3dQCcCews IVzHmDGpV1oq0J+zcXR/dDE= =8sTI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 07:36 am, Ralph Slooten did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Sorry if I offend anyone, this is not ment to raise anyone's hair, but Nautilus is more usefull as an egg-timer.. damn it's so slow. Yes it looks good, just like Gnome does, but speed and efficiency is what I believe Linux is about. gnome looks good? insert evil grin here - -- One of the surest signs of intelligent in outer space is that it hasn't contacted us yet. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AjelBwq+ZwvIN/oRAibDAJ4/2MInr+FXkmJyHX76O2bfw7BWwQCdEq8p /0Ix2/0hKV26VIY9ye6s2/Q= =0Jff -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer stops at half work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 3:39 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Alastair: Have you tried backing off on the resolution? 600 x 600 works well for me, and I've found that 300 x 300 is adequate for text-based material. Less pixels, less information, quicker response. Just a thought... -- cmg There are different 600x600s and 300x300s :) If printing anything out which isn't for my own use black print with the Lexmark is barely OK at 600x600, and unacceptably 'woolly' at 300x300, unless I use glossy paper. (Compare a laser printer). Colour printing is just disastrous, with colours washed out and the matching not even remotely near to what it should be :/ That said, with the Lexmark ink cartridges almost £40 a pair I'll replace the whole thing with something Linux-friendlier next time they run out. (Probably a HP). Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9Aj7mCv59vFiSU4YRAmhOAJ9dfmCwHseJU4K6RF/cwlSBon5/AwCglhDz zo2LX0lMCCZj6qYN4xj+AGo= =dIld -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 3:36 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: There you have it... Gnome or KDE. To be honest I haven't had any experience with KDE the last year or so, but I do know that Gnome is really becomming dissapointing in terms of speed. I first started using Linux which Redhat 6.1 or something, and in those days Gnome was a simple but efficient desktop. These days, especially since Mandrake's encorporation of Gnome with Nautilus, it has become a sad story. Sorry if I offend anyone, this is not ment to raise anyone's hair, but Nautilus is more usefull as an egg-timer.. damn it's so slow. Yes it looks good, just like Gnome does, but speed and efficiency is what I believe Linux is about. I have been using Fluxbox for the last 5 months now or so, and it's so damn fast compared to Gnome. Simple and Sweet. This is not an andertisment for Fluxbox, as there are many simplified Desktop managers around. Maybe give another one a try, and see if your performance increases? Just my 2.2 Euro-cents ;-) Have a look at www.gentoo.org; the installation process is brutal but the concept - a facilitated build from scratch - is very interesting. Unlike the usual multi-CD or DVD extravaganza the single distribution CD installs a minimal Linux which is then thrown away after it downloads and compiles everything _according to your hardware setup_ from scratch. The fact that everything in Mandrake is generic (installed via prebuilt RPMs) and thus compiled defensively is probably why KDE and Gnome (and others) are slow. (That said, gentoo would be unacceptable for just about every new user; speed is inversely proportional to ease of installation ;) Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AkTlCv59vFiSU4YRAvt/AKDIBpGW25uG+4Fj/tNehowZ8q/DKACglDM6 vJ6C3QBJI/oBJPqROf6AYQs= =5Hps -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SmartMedia reader recommendations
I'm using a PNY Smart Media reader. Got it from Staples for $19.99. While it doesn't mention Linux (the diskette with the drivers were Windows only), it works like a charm under Linux. Joe On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 00:06:46 -0600 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd like to get rid of the jungle of wires that's passing itself off as a SmartMedia reader. What brand is the most Linux-friendly? What models? Thanks, Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
June 7, 2002 11:23 pm, Vincent Colombo wrote: Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if there's free software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat. Vince Hi Vince; Firstly, thanks for the link to Bochs since I'd never heard of it before. I've never had a need for any of the W32 emulation packages so I probably haven't been as vigilant as I should be in keeping abreast of who's doing what. Onward and sideways: I wasn't trying to imply anything about the reason for Farshad's asking that question, nor was I jumping down his throat; and I probably left out a part of the reply that would have better explained why I said what I did. But that's just a failure to communicate on my part. My intent was to try and condense the answers that I've seen in three years of reading to a Reader's Digest Version of what Free as in Free Software Foundation means. With emphasis on the fact that it doesn't mean developers can't charge for their work, and that these developers are people with real lives and real families that live in the same real world as we do. I'd like to be able to get everything free too; but since I don't game I don't need WineX. Since Open Office fills the need for Office Suite functions for me so far I don't need CrossOver Plug Wine. Or whatever they call it. Mostly it's that since I left Windows behind 27 months ago; I haven't felt a need to do anything in Linux that I wasn't able to do, without having to fool this system into thinking it's running MS BloatWare. If (when/probably/ maybe) I do find something that requires Windows Functionality to run I'll search out the developer(s)/company that can deliver it and _BUY_ a copy of it. That will satisfy _my_ need; not the Open Source Community's need so I should be the one to pay for a copy of what I need. I meant no offense to anyone, and I don't mean to imply that I thought anything that was said was out of line; whether Farshad's question, or the responses by anyone else, or your protest of what I said. The way I read his question was that he was asking for the definition of free software as it relates to the FSF and that's what I answered. He'd already gotten good answers to the function question. But I do mean that I'll gladly pay for something that allows me the flexibility to do what I want without being saddled with BillyG and his legions of darkness. YMMV. I don't download MP3s either, I rip tracks from CDs I've bought, but I don't share them or trade them; but that's another topic. And to Farshad; when looking for a software solution to a particular need that you have, it's always advisable to do some research since you know exactly what you want/need. Whether free or shareware or commercial, I always suggest Google. Like this example of a Google search for the words (no quotes I typed exactly what you see inside the quotes) free software shareware: http://www.google.ca/linux?hl=enq=free+software+sharewaremeta= -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Man will never fly. Space travel is merely a dream. All aspirin is alike. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:46 am, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:11 am, D. Olson wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 11:50 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:12:01 -0400 D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:24, you wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:23, Derek Byram wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 15:03, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: Oh tks! ;-) But as someone has mentioned before... this kind of thread is only possible due to the subscribers maturity level as well as nice sense of humor and fellowship! Ricardo Castanho I can't help but laugh at what this thread has become Some file permisions needed fixing and a setting in postfix On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: I was having problems sending to the list, but I fixed it. fixed what? ;-) On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Jays test works. Jay who? What thread??? Don't push it ;o) Don't push what Why can't anyone speak coherently? PS Why can't you leave my sig in the mail ;p What sig??? i told you, everyone. this thread belongs to the expert list now we are all confused.. What expert list? New record for posts per byte. Brevity rules. What record? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:13 am, you wrote: Something doesn't have to be just like something else to work the same way. What I mean by work the same way is, to be an environment within which I can run the applications I need to run to fulfill my reasons for using the computer in the first place. If my intent is to spend time playing with, tweaking, patching, exploring, experimenting, etc., then fine, a CLI based OS is probably fine. If on the other hand, I want - or need boxes which set there ready and host the applications I need, and allow me to do so without having to type in a long string of commands and parameters and whatever each time I want to run one of the apps, or worse yet, to upgrade a driver or app, I've got to download some code and go through a compilation process, which may or may not work. My interest IS looking for a Windows replacement. Windows (NT, 2000) work just fine and do everything I want and need them to do. However, I, like most if not all of you all have had it up to our ears with MS and their bull. I am dead serious in that I think MS needs real competition. Not only in the server world but on the desktop as well. No OS will ever be serious competition for Windows unless it can be a viable replacement for Windows. And no, you can't use Linux instead of Windows unless you can do with it what you can with Windows. I've got a well functioning domain network here at my house running 2000 Server and previously NT Server hosting several other computers, running 24/7 with none of the claimed MS crashes. So, my expectations for a replacement OS are very high. Sorry for the rant, folks but this has been a sore point for me for a long time. Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle - Original Message - From: Jon Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs I am sure I'll get flamed for this, but I don't think Linux is a replacement for Windows. Linux is a robust *nix clone. I think you can use Linux instead of Windows. But I personally hope that Linux is never a replacement for Windows. I don't like Windows and don't want Linux to be just like Windows. I agree with you on all your points, but am not sure what is causing your problem. I have a home LAN setup with 5 computers and a stand alone firewall/router, with two still on windows and the rest Mandrake-linux. The fire wall is SNF with all updates and one of the computers is acting as my web host server using Apache. The workstations range from intel 166 mhz to an AMD Duron 1ghz powered computer. All run very well and all linux boxes run KDE. Speed differences are barely perceptable to me. Locally the 1ghz machine is noticebly faster than the others but for internet surfing etc, the differences don't seem to be huge. Maybe if you try drakopt which should be on 8.2 download discs. Or if you are using 8.1, which if I recall had some speed issues with some machines due to the kernel version, upgrade to 8.2. For me, and this is just my situation, Mandrake-Linux is a replacement intotal for Windows. Oh, I don't have games on my list of needs so I don't use wine or any of those programs. Just to close, I have watch Mandrakesoft bring their distribution along for nearly three years now and I believe that within the next 1 to 2 years you and a lot of other people will find no reason to have MS installed on your computers. Assuming MS does not change their ways. Just my $.02, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] run windows executable in Linux ...
On Saturday 08 June 2002 11:37 am, you wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 11:16 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:23 am, you wrote: Wow. I really don't think someone asking, on a Linux mailing list, if there's free software to do what they want to do is unreasonable. He didn't ask if someone had a cracked version of these programs. He didn't even say he wasn't willing to pay for something. Just seemed to be asking honest question to me. Way to jump down this persons throat. Good grief I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat... I always come across that way, and I don't mean to... I need to learn how to type or communicate or something. well if it helps it didn't sound like an attack to me, but a well explained answer to the question. maybe we lack (have?) the same communication skills... dammit! ;) Thanks. It's really hard to communicate emotions via text, so people assume things that aren't necessarily true. It happens to me all the time... Expecially on forums. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:19:13 -0500 Dan W. Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation(speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? If you said Windoze98, I could understand this. But not 2000 server. I have a 300MHz PII machine with 160MB of ram with mandrake8.2 and win98. KDE runs slower than win98 and xvce runs much faster than either one. I also have a laptop with a 500MHz PIII and 128MB of ram with win2k and mandrake8.2. Win2k is a pig. Even kde on either of these machines runs circles around it. Now I see you've got a slower machine with less ram. I would suggest trying one of the lighter desktops like xfce. I definately wouldn't suggest kde on a machine like that. It just wants too much memory. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie]network configuration
Hi to all, First off, thanks for the help I received so far! The correct detection and installment of my ethernet card on boot seems to be a random occurance. More often than not do I get the message: cardmgr[449]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: resource temporarily unavailable. Sometimes its detected fine though - apparently without me having change any of the configuration. I know that part of the message is sent by ifup, when searching (and not finding the device). Does anybody have a suggestion what to change? Thanks a lot in advance, Cheers, Matthias
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 07:19:13 -0500, Dan W. Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. There can be several reasons for this. The first may be that your hardware is not supported in GNU/Linux as well as it is in Windows. Integrated video solutions tend to be highly proprietary (making it difficult for open source developers to make drivers) and of poor quality. Your CPU is quite slow by today's standards, and you don't have much RAM. Windows may _seem_ fast, but try loading and using many apps at once. Windows will fall over, while GNU/Linux should do well. I have a Pentium II 350MHz with 256MB of RAM. With that lowly machine, I can compile code with gcc while running (and using) Konqueror and Galeon with thirty or more windows open, all in GNOME. With all that and more running, I can still use my system. I don't think your comparison is very fair. KDE and GNOME are far more powerful than the Windows GUI, and so need some extra power. The Win95/NT4 interface, for example, would correspond best to IceWM, not to KDE or GNOME. IceWM is very fast; I suggest you try it. Which versions of KDE and GNOME are you using for comparison? KDE 3 is much faster than KDE 2 (which is currently found in Mandrake). GNOME 1 has received little developer attention in the past year, and most resources are focused on GNOME 2. GNOME 2, due later this month, is far speedier than its predecessor. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan If the human brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
I'd just like to say somthing on this subject.. recently I have setup several linux servers in ordinary business's,, mandrake in all these cases.. I use Mandrake to be a httpd server, samba domain server.. database, mail server, and NAT server.. and with the mail all of them scan all emails in and out for virus's.. All of the business's have declaired their delight at the success.. they all have servers that have been set and forget the only thing that I do, is remotely log in once a month and run MandrakeUpdate over ssh remotely and keep them up to date.. everything else they do themselves. (some of them have uptimes over 100 days.) and none of them have had any problems. and all of them would need over 2500 bucks (Australian)of windoze software to replace them. (exchange server, win2000 server , MsSQL, antivirus like KAV or something.. etc etc..) I have also handed my old mandrake disks over to some windows users (7.2 and 8.1), and they all seem to love it.. I showed my sister linux, and she begged me to install it on her computer. I have been running linux on everything from 486's to AMD XP2100+ and P4's,, and never had a real speed problem with it.. Things I do for workstations is: - Tune the hard drives with hdparm. (very important.. in most cases you can double speed.) - Remove all unnecessary process's.. (they all chew CPU and RAM, so losing anything you are not using helps.) - Choose a fast file system, (usually Reiserfs, but I am playing with XFS as well.) - Run a window manager that is suited to the PC its running on.. in lower end cases, icewm runs very very well. KDE3 or 2.1.X is akin to running XP on a low end PC, it just doesn't happen.. As for real performance. keep in mind that linux canes windoze for many server tasks like httpd now.. The PC that does all my dialy stuff at home, is an old P233 system.. it plays MP3's runs httpd, samba, postfix, DNS and alot of other stuff, and KDE is still bearable on top of that.. but I use Icewm cos its faster. The newer the kernel, the faster it seems to get, as they improve the vm and other aspects.. I love linux, I still use windoze for some stuff, (like testing scripts I write for cross platform compatability) but more and more I am moving to linux for everything.. soon I will test my scripts for windows compatability from a linux system. :-) in summary, tune your system, keep it up to date.. and only use what you need to. and get as much ram as you can in your system,, thats a good idea no matter what OS your running. the general concensus is that Windoze XP isn't really all that useable either with only 256MB ram. but mdk8.2 runs pretty good with 128-196mb.. and it can run a GUI and still be 5 or 6 different types of server. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2002 2:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:13 am, you wrote: Something doesn't have to be just like something else to work the same way. What I mean by work the same way is, to be an environment within which I can run the applications I need to run to fulfill my reasons for using the computer in the first place. If my intent is to spend time playing with, tweaking, patching, exploring, experimenting, etc., then fine, a CLI based OS is probably fine. If on the other hand, I want - or need boxes which set there ready and host the applications I need, and allow me to do so without having to type in a long string of commands and parameters and whatever each time I want to run one of the apps, or worse yet, to upgrade a driver or app, I've got to download some code and go through a compilation process, which may or may not work. My interest IS looking for a Windows replacement. Windows (NT, 2000) work just fine and do everything I want and need them to do. However, I, like most if not all of you all have had it up to our ears with MS and their bull. I am dead serious in that I think MS needs real competition. Not only in the server world but on the desktop as well. No OS will ever be serious competition for Windows unless it can be a viable replacement for Windows. And no, you can't use Linux instead of Windows unless you can do with it what you can with Windows. I've got a well functioning domain network here at my house running 2000 Server and previously NT Server hosting several other computers, running 24/7 with none of the claimed MS crashes. So, my expectations for a replacement OS are very high. Sorry for the rant, folks but this has been a sore point for me for a long time. Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle - Original Message - From: Jon Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Re:
Re: [newbie] help needed for Java and Konqueror
June 8, 2002 03:22 am, Stormjumper wrote: If installed, uninstall 'kaffe'. Go to http://wwws.sun.com/software/java2/download.html and D'l 'j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386-rpm.bin' Open a console, log as root and type: ./j2re-1_3_1-linux-i386-rpm.bin If everything go OK you get a file named jre-1.3.1.i386.rpm Run: rpm -ivh jre-1.3.1.i386.rpm Then. open Konqueror and point Konqueror to: /usr/java/jre1.3.1/bin/java Buena suerte. Good instructions but, the site is ...down for maintenance from 6:30 AM to 3:00 PM Saturday June 8, 2002... Or so it says. :-) -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Q: How do you keep a moron in suspense? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]network configuration
On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:18 pm, you wrote: Hi to all, First off, thanks for the help I received so far! The correct detection and installment of my ethernet card on boot seems to be a random occurance. More often than not do I get the message: cardmgr[449]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: resource temporarily unavailable. Sometimes its detected fine though - apparently without me having change any of the configuration. I know that part of the message is sent by ifup, when searching (and not finding the device). Does anybody have a suggestion what to change? Thanks a lot in advance, Cheers, Matthias Matthias, I was having something of the same problem. I went out and bought a new NIC card and all the problems went away. The old card was bugging out on me. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:10 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 10:46 am, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 12:11 am, D. Olson wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 11:50 pm, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:12:01 -0400 D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:24, you wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 06:53 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 00:23, Derek Byram wrote: On Friday 07 June 2002 15:03, you wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: Oh tks! ;-) But as someone has mentioned before... this kind of thread is only possible due to the subscribers maturity level as well as nice sense of humor and fellowship! Ricardo Castanho I can't help but laugh at what this thread has become Some file permisions needed fixing and a setting in postfix On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jay wrote: I was having problems sending to the list, but I fixed it. fixed what? ;-) On Wednesday 05 June 2002 08:31 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:24, D. Olson wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:47 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:32 am, Jay wrote: test It works. -- cmg What works? Jays test works. Jay who? What thread??? Don't push it ;o) Don't push what Why can't anyone speak coherently? PS Why can't you leave my sig in the mail ;p What sig??? i told you, everyone. this thread belongs to the expert list now we are all confused.. What expert list? New record for posts per byte. Brevity rules. What record? You guys crack me up! ROTHFL -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
Bill, I may try some of the other interfaces. Apparently KDE is just too memory demanding for that machine. I previously had 8.1 installed on my main computer here (at the time a 533 MHz Celeron with 256 MB of RAM) and it was glaringly slow compared to Win 2000 Pro. Again, that version of KDE may have been the culprit. Win 2000Pro on this machine (now upgraded to a 900 Duron) flies. 2000 Server on the old 533 Celeron is quite fast as well. I've not tried Linux on either of these machines recently. Can't tie them down with experimenting. That's why I'm using the extra box for playing with Linux. My comparison for speed had been with that machine on which I had previously had a Win2k Server install and currently NT 4. Both NT and W2K run magnitudes faster than KDE on that machine. Couldn't stay with W2K on it as it did not support the old SCSI card I've got in it to run my tape drive. NT runs it just fine. MD8.2 has seen this SCSI card so I'm hoping that I can try it out. See if I can access that tape drive for backup purposes. Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle - Original Message - From: Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs If you said Windoze98, I could understand this. But not 2000 server. I have a 300MHz PII machine with 160MB of ram with mandrake8.2 and win98. KDE runs slower than win98 and xvce runs much faster than either one. I also have a laptop with a 500MHz PIII and 128MB of ram with win2k and mandrake8.2. Win2k is a pig. Even kde on either of these machines runs circles around it. Now I see you've got a slower machine with less ram. I would suggest trying one of the lighter desktops like xfce. I definately wouldn't suggest kde on a machine like that. It just wants too much memory. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 11:02 pm, you wrote: My site: www.barrymichels.com is running under Apache. I found it very easy to setup. Just install and put all your html docs in /var/www/html. Not much to it. IIRC, it took about a half-hour to get up running. Then another 4 hours to translate all my ASP code into PHP. If the OS installs it during setup (like my current installation), then it's even easier since all you do is place your files in the published directory. Looks, great, where did you find those good-looking models? A kid next door made them for me with his penknife and some old sticks from the backyard. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:19 am, you wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle error between seat and keyboard during each and every linux install... my guess Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer stops at half work
Alastair Scott wrote: That said, with the Lexmark ink cartridges almost £40 a pair I'll replace the whole thing with something Linux-friendlier next time they run out. (Probably a HP). I recommend you consider Canon. The big selling point for me is that the cartridges are usually easy to refill, much easier than HP. I finally got my Canon BJC 3000 to print under Linux (with the installation of Mandrake 8.2), but haven't tested it for very long, but (with the foomatic bjc-600 driver) it looks equivalent to what I see when printing under Windows. The cartridges it uses are easy to refill, you just pust a BB out of the way to create a hole into the ink reservoir, add ink (holding it so the ink doesn't leak out through the sponge and drip somewhere), then reseal the hole by some means. (Like a replacement BB, a small rubber BB, or package sealing tape -- you do have to seal the hole to be airtight -- I've seen another approach with a set screw and package sealing tape.) Some Canons (like the portable I used for a number of years, can't remember the number) can be refilled just by pulling out the ink cartridge turning it upside down, and dripping ink onto the exposed sponge, slow enough so that it is absorbed. That might even work with the cartridges for my BJC-3000, although it might be a much slower method. As always, buyer beware -- look at the cartridges in any printer you consider buying -- Canon probably makes some cartridges that are not nearly that easy to refill. I never had much success with HP cartridges (for example, the HP 51629A and the color partner to that cartridge) -- the instructions call for you to get a slight negative air pressure in the cartridge. Whether because I wasn't getting the right negative pressure, or the nozzles were plugging up, or whatever, only about half the cartridges I refilled worked properly afterwards. Beware also of Xerox. My uncle bought a Xerox partly on my semi-recommendation that the cartridges appeared to be as easy to refill as the Canon. They are not. I don't know if they incorporate some electronic gizmo to prevent them from being refilled or not, or what, but I had no luck at all. Half the time after reinstalling the cartridge, the printer did not recognize / accept the refilled cartridge. In addition, this cartridge looks like it might hold a fair amount of ink, but when you peel the paper cover off, you see that only about 1/8 of the possible storage volume is used to contain ink. I'm going to cut and paste this on to a WikiLearn page: see http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/RefillingInkJetCartridges. Feel free to add your own comments and experiences about refilling ink jet cartridges (or your recommendations on buying ink jet printers, on http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/BuyingInkJetPrinters. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Konqueror 2.2.2 (Mandrake 8.2): Lines don't wrap properly in textarea box
I just installed Mandrake 8.2 successfully and it's solved a few problems I had with Mandrake 8.1. But, Konqueror 2.2.2 exhibits a new problem. When I try to edit a WikiLearn (TWiki) page, the lines (in the textarea box) don't wrap properly -- they wrap at about 123 characters instead of the width of the box. (In addition, there is no horizontal scrollbar on the textarea box.) Anybody experience anything similar or know how to solve it? I've tried looking at the konqueror settings but don't see anything likely to be a help. When I remember (or find) exactly what to delete, I'll try deleting the .kde files and restart kde to see if that helps. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Attempting to re-compile Mandrake vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk
Need some help re-compiling version 2.4.18-6mdk of mandrake linux. I installed this version from a cdrom onto my laptop. The problem I am encountering is that this version enables automatic power management by default. On my laptop SIS630 this causes my laptop to power down every few secounds. I am familiar with using make -e on tar files and changing the parameters that I need to change, but since I installed this from a cdrom I do not find any tar file in the /usr/src directory, or anywhere else that I can think to look. The only kernel that I can identify is in the /boot directory, and it is listed as vmlinuz-2.4.18-6mdk. I am not sure how to re-compile this to enable me to turn off the automatic power management option. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mike Pruden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page On Wednesday 05 June 2002 11:02 pm, you wrote: My site: www.barrymichels.com is running under Apache. I found it very easy to setup. Just install and put all your html docs in /var/www/html. Not much to it. IIRC, it took about a half-hour to get up running. Then another 4 hours to translate all my ASP code into PHP. If the OS installs it during setup (like my current installation), then it's even easier since all you do is place your files in the published directory. Looks, great, where did you find those good-looking models? A kid next door made them for me with his penknife and some old sticks from the backyard. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 hmm, must've missed the original reply The first 9 are Gillian Anderson and the last one is Charlize Theron. All of them are drawn from either magazines or from printed images downloaded from the internet. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page
On Saturday 08 June 2002 03:35 pm, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How to set up Apache to host personal web page On Wednesday 05 June 2002 11:02 pm, you wrote: My site: www.barrymichels.com is running under Apache. I found it very easy to setup. Just install and put all your html docs in /var/www/html. Not much to it. IIRC, it took about a half-hour to get up running. Then another 4 hours to translate all my ASP code into PHP. If the OS installs it during setup (like my current installation), then it's even easier since all you do is place your files in the published directory. Looks, great, where did you find those good-looking models? A kid next door made them for me with his penknife and some old sticks from the backyard. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 hmm, must've missed the original reply The first 9 are Gillian Anderson and the last one is Charlize Theron. All of them are drawn from either magazines or from printed images downloaded from the internet. Barry Then you must have the wrong web page. Check to see if you used http://68.96.17.169/ cause you ought to see some doll buggys and chairs. Hehe. No other kinds of models used. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]network configuration
On Saturday 08 June 2002 01:18 pm, you wrote: Hi to all, First off, thanks for the help I received so far! The correct detection and installment of my ethernet card on boot seems to be a random occurance. More often than not do I get the message: cardmgr[449]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: resource temporarily unavailable. Sometimes its detected fine though - apparently without me having change any of the configuration. I know that part of the message is sent by ifup, when searching (and not finding the device). Does anybody have a suggestion what to change? Thanks a lot in advance, Cheers, Matthias One other thought before replacing the card, take it out , lightly clean the contacts with an eraser and reset it. Worked on a failed to detect sound card once. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem
On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: compaqs are compat. with linux Now there is a broad sweeping statement for you. Which compaq computer? What model modem? Not all compaq's nor all modems are compatible. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
I can testify...That's has always been my problem! Lee On Saturday 08 June 2002 03:37 pm, you wrote: On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:19 am, you wrote: Can someone explain to me why Linux under KDE or Gnome would run so much slower than Windows on the same machine? An older HP Vectra with a 200 MHz Pent.; 80 meg RAM; two harddrives; integrated video. This machine has had Windows 2000 Server, NT Server 4, Linux 8.2, and currently NT and 8.2 on it. The difference in operation (speed wise) between the two MS systems (not trying to praise MS here) and Linux is like night and day. Linux is excruciatingly slow. From the time I click on an icon to do anything, that can be running Control Center, or any of the installed apps off of the Linux CD until the app is up on screen is several times longer than a comparable app (Explorer or Control Panel, for example) under Windows. Oh yes, previous installs with 8.1, on this machine and 8.1 plus Red Hat on another and much faster machine produced the same comparisons. Ideas? Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA Bedford, Texas e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web address: http://www.qsl.net/wb9tka May Goddes love blest ye alle error between seat and keyboard during each and every linux install... my guess -- Registered Linux user #223705 The best indication that there is intelligent life elsewhere is that they haven't contacted us. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance - Derek Bok Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 do i hear an amen brother? :) On Saturday 08 June 2002 07:05 pm, Lee did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: I can testify...That's has always been my problem! Lee error between seat and keyboard during each and every linux install... my guess - -- Psychic Convention. If you belong there, you will KNOW when and where. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ArbWBwq+ZwvIN/oRAnp3AJ0WOsTFDmunjmy8EsbGFh5kZlyyVwCeI+vx G+anw+ZzCCyc2X2c42iOduw= =RjOX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror 2.2.2 (Mandrake 8.2): Lines don't wrap properly in textarea box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 05:47 pm, Randy Kramer did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: PS: With respect to your bank and konq -- I guess you tried the ways to let konqueror pretend it's some other browser? (I don't know how to do it, but I understand it can be done.) it can be done with the hats button if you have it on your bar or in config user agent :) indeed i have, and it doesn't seem to be the point, in fact my wife is senior VP of tech audit for my bank, and they do everything they can to be linux friendly i assure you, but the latest kinq build sends an empty field in the form for transfering money. i can view everything, but can't specify any amounts back to them.. - -- My job is bring comfort to the disturbed, and disturb the comfortable. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ArfFBwq+ZwvIN/oRAvyhAJ4pZATDS5PCzo74xdB/2IpOpyxsFACeNcYH xClPkSyZF8oY0/DWC9OLlDo= =5jph -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
please, children, enough. once, funny. twice, a grin. 14, ridiculous. tc,hago. g . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] test
been having some problems lately with posts not showing on the list. Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cylinders, sectors and heads trouble
In my previous life, I was young and ignorant and I bought a WD drive! ... well, I'm at least not young anymore .-) I installed mdk on this second harddrive of mine and the setup was with (cylinders, heads, sectors,) = (77545, 16, 63) However, after I moved the hard drive to a my new motherboard and installed mdk 8.2, fdisk and diskdrake report the geometry as (c,h,s) = (4865, 255, 63) and fdisk warns that partitions do not end on cylinder boundaries. Can I still use diskdrake to create new partitions on this hard drive? I tried to put a section into lilo.conf: [this is the disk in question. Nevertheless it is on the primary ide0 controller:] disk=/dev/hde sectors=63 heads = 16 cylinders = 774545 But this didn't change the way fdisk and diskdrake saw the drive geometry. If I go into the bios, the geometry is listed with heads = 16 and cylinders some value 4 thousand something (sorry, forgot to write down!) I have lba32 in /etc/lilo.conf and I do not share this hard drive with any other OS. Does anyone have any suggestions? Resize the partitions to conform with heads = 255 using ext2online perhaps??? thanks, Narfi. mobo: MSI k7t266 pro2 /dev/hde: WD400BB fdisk -l /dev/hde Disk /dev/hde: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hde1 * 164511528+ 83 Linux Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary: phys=(1014, 15, 63) should be (1014, 254, 63) /dev/hde264 3844 30359448 85 Linux extended Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary: phys=(1023, 15, 63) should be (1023, 254, 63) /dev/hde56496255496+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hde696 478 3071848+ 83 Linux /dev/hde7 478 1116 5119600+ 83 Linux /dev/hde8 1116 2901 14335744+ 83 Linux /dev/hde9 2901 3155 2047720+ 83 Linux /dev/hde10 3155 3206409216+ 83 Linux /dev/hde11 3206 3844 5119600+ 83 Linux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Saturday 08 June 2002 08:42 pm, you wrote: please, children, enough. once, funny. twice, a grin. 14, ridiculous. tc,hago. g . What once? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Tips or Shortcut key in Gnome or KDE ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 04 December 2002 11:18 pm, FARSHAD did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: any body have a list of usefuly shortcut key in Gnome or KDE ? in windows works with shortcut keys is very quick for example : in KDE it is easier, go to Configuration KDE look and feel shortcuts. make your own. anything you wish, within reason. - -- When you say 'I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare at you blankly and say 'Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*'. - Linus Torvalds shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ASdtBwq+ZwvIN/oRAoHJAJ93WHT4CCq/C6YVO7jREMujkCBIdQCeKA1t QyDKc5pbEWuuobnb/KFGffw= =S/PN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem
On Saturday 04 December 1999 03:10 pm, FARSHAD wrote: i don't know what's hsp? micromodem ? i have a Compaq 56k Modem , and that will support DSL and that's PCI and i think that's a software modem no harware modem but i'm not sure ... thanks bye - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problem with install Compaq 56k Modem do you have the hsp56k micromodem? Farshad: It's a pretty good bet that you have a winmodem. There may be a driver for it, or you may be out of luck. First, you're going to have to find exactly which model you have -- Compaq has offered a number of different products which meet the above description. The best way to identify your modem is to open up the box and look at the card. Write down the FCC ID number, chipset identification (Lucent, Rockwell, etc), and any other information. If you're lucky, you may even find a Compaq model number. You can translate the FCC number to manufacturer and model number using the search engine at www.fcc.gov/oet/fccid/. If it is not practical to open up your case, then you may be able to identify the modem from any literature that accompanied your computer, or go to the Compaq site. When you do have the model number, go to www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. Part way down the page, there will be a link Download the entire table. Do that, and you should be able to learn something about your modem. Hint: Use your browser's search function; it saves a lot of scrolling. Another good source of information is at linmodems.org. Good luck, -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Speed differences between OSs
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:08 pm, Dave Kufta wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 June 2002 09:21 pm, Femme wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002 16:36:04 +0200 (CEST) Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Dan W. Dooley wrote: snip I have been using Fluxbox for the last 5 months now or so, and it's so damn fast compared to Gnome. Simple and Sweet. This is not an andertisment for Fluxbox, as there are many simplified Desktop managers around. Maybe give another one a try, and see if your performance increases? Just my 2.2 Euro-cents ;-) Greetings Ralph Ralph, would you be willing to email me either off list or on-list to help me setup Flux box!? I followed the directions precisely on their website for installing for newbies. No joy! :( I cannot locate the Executable they tell you to find, nor do i understand how to edit the files they want me to edit. They don't exist or I cannot find them. :( Any all help would be a godsend at this point. I did compile/make it correctly I believe...however Im willing to start from scratch with better instructions *Is nearly in tears over this ... was supposed to be very simple from the Docs I found which are here: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/newdoc.starting.php#top * Ty Verymuch...and if anyone else can help, Please chime in! Sorry if this is piggybacking on another thread... I know its bad form. TIA all, Femme I assume here you are running version 8.2 of Mandrake if so from a virtual console you should be able to enter the command Xtart and get a list of all available window managers. one of which will be fluxbox: WELCOME to Sessions Selector 1 KDE 2 Gnome 3 WindowMaker 4 Enlightenment 5 blackbox 6 XFce 7 IceWM 9 fvwm2 10 Fvwm1 11 KDE 15 afterstep 16 fluxbox Which do you choose? (number) at this point you would enter the number 16 and fluxbox will start ??? Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586 10:03pm up 1 day, 2:22, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.15 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David M.Kufta (n3meq) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://n3meq.dynip.com:8080 Wilmington,Delaware USA My GnuPG Public key is available at http://www.keyserver.net/ Key ID: 6038413478BA7657 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9ArikYDhBNHi6dlcRAh/QAJwPXSQhdk6ermLCWtG5F80LxvP5xACeN4ms wSyOVgdiqngJuWFs6MbvrDM= =oFTf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Femme I found fluxbox on disc 3 if you have mandrake 8.2. A simple #urpmi fluxbox set it up fine Michael Biddulph Brisbane Australia Registered Linux User #220460 -- Michael Biddulph Brisbane Australia Registered Linux User #220460 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
