date:20021004


I would guess that there is at least one Microsoft spy on every major linux
distro mailing list..

how better to put down the opposition then to exagerate the problems
suffered by people actually using it..

wonder who it is here

anyone care to come forward about microsoft affiliation???   :-)


rgds

Frank

PS, I mention this because in the ZDNET story, it talks about Ballmers new
linux strategy..

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Sent: Friday, 4 October 2002 5:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] OT - Gnukes


Los Alamos National Laboratory is buying a $6 million, 2,048-processor
Linux supercomputer to run its nuclear weapons simulation software, an
effort that will test the limits of these less-expensive megamachines.
( http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-959839.html )

Can't they just play Penguin Command?

Oh well, at least it shows Linux is no longer the OS of LAW-toting Idaho
libertarians and long-haired European commie geeks - we have everything
from the RedFlag Linux in China to the National Security Agency's own
brand of super-secure Linux (which probably has black ice to fry the
neurons of crackers).

Sir Robin

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[newbie] FTP server with GUI

2002-10-04 Thread fifner the dragon


Hi, could anyone recommend an easy to use FTP server with graphical user interface?

I also wonder if it is possible to use mounted folders from another machine (not 
linux) for the FTP.

Thanks, 
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[newbie] How does one uninstall tarball packages?

2002-10-04 Thread Hesham Khonji


How does one uninstall tarball packages? Does it require any maintenance of 
the actuall tarball? THanks

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Re: [newbie] How does one uninstall tarball packages?

2002-10-04 Thread Derek Jennings


On Friday 04 Oct 2002 12:12 pm, Hesham Khonji wrote:
 How does one uninstall tarball packages? Does it require any maintenance of
 the actuall tarball? THanks

 Hesham

Good question

If you kept the directories you used to install the application then you can 
*sometimes* use
make uninstall to remove all the files.

The bad news is that make uninstall is often not supported by many 
applications, and you probably deleted your installation directory anyway :-(

You are then reduced to hunting around the file structure deleting directories 
and files. The good news is that there is no 'registry' like under Windows 
for you to screw up.

So you will get the idea by now that installing application in RPM form is 
preferable, because then you can do a simple 
urpme application_name  to uninstall it.

If your favourite application is not available in RPM format, you can create 
an RPM using an app called 'checkinstall'.  Just type checkinstall in place 
of the 'make install' command and it will compile the application convert it 
to an RPM, install the RPM and then save the RPM in /usr/src/RPM for you.

HTH

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[newbie] How to set up saned under Mandrake 8.2

2002-10-04 Thread Jim Dawson


Does anyone know how to set up saned under Mandrake 8.2?

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[newbie] logrotate doesn't

2002-10-04 Thread Poogle


My log files fill up and I cannot get logrotate to empty them, I have issued 
logrotate -f /var/log/messages (as root) but get a string of errors like this

error: /var/log/messages:20224 unknown option 'Oct' -- ignoring line
error: /var/log/messages:20224 unexpected text
error: /var/log/messages:20225 unknown option 'Oct' -- ignoring line
error: /var/log/messages:20225 unexpected text

my /etc/logrotate.d/syslog looks like this -

snipped the top bit

/var/log/auth.log /var/log/syslog /var/log/user.log /var/log/secure 
/var/log/messages /var/log/boot.log /var/log/mail/errors /var/log/mail/info 
/var/log/mail/warnings /var/log/cron/errors /var/log/cron/info 
/var/log/cron/warnings /var/log/kernel/errors /var/log/kernel/info 
/var/log/kernel/warnings /var/log/lpr/errors /var/log/lpr/info 
/var/log/lpr/warnings /var/log/news/news.err /var/log/news/news.notice 
/var/log/news/news.crit /var/log/daemons/errors /var/log/daemons/info 
/var/log/daemons/warnings /var/log/explanations {
sharedscripts
rotate 1
daily
postrotate
/usr/bin/killall -HUP syslogd #
endscript
}

and my /etc/logrotate.conf looks like this -

# see man logrotate for details
# rotate log files weekly
weekly

# keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
rotate 4

# create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
create

# uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
compress

# RPM packages drop log rotation information into this directory
include /etc/logrotate.d

# no packages own lastlog or wtmp -- we'll rotate them here
/var/log/wtmp {
monthly
create 0664 root utmp
rotate 1
}

/var/log/lastlog {
monthly
rotate 1
}

# system-specific logs may be configured here



}

/var/log/messages {
daily
rotate 1
}


}

/var/log/syslog {
daily
rotate 1
}




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[newbie] Now That I've D/L'd Linux 9.0...

2002-10-04 Thread Andre Stevens

How do I install v9.0 on a PC that has WindowsNT on it. I want to blow away the current NT OS. 
Also I'm not sure I downloaded the file correctly (everytime I tried to log onto the FTP site I got a screen asking for a username and password; I gave a username and used the "log in as anonymous user" selection); when I was able to connect to a site, I copyed the ISO files and burned them to a CD.
Can I use this CD to boot from or did I have to expand the files first?

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Re: [newbie] Now That I've D/L'd Linux 9.0...

2002-10-04 Thread Derek Jennings


On Friday 04 Oct 2002 2:03 pm, Andre Stevens wrote:
 How do I install  v9.0 on a PC that has WindowsNT on it. I want to blow
 away the current NT OS.

 Also I'm not sure I downloaded the file correctly (everytime I tried to log
 onto the FTP site I got a screen asking for a username and password; I gave
 a username and used the log in as anonymous user selection); when I was
 able to connect to a site, I copyed the ISO files and burned them to a CD.

 Can I use this CD to boot from or did I have to expand the files first?


There are installation instructions in html format on CD1
If you copied correctly as an ISO image you can boot from CD1

Blowing away NT is dead easy. Just follow the instructions in the install GUI
When you come to the bit about partitions just redefine your NT partitions to 
be Linux ones.
If you do not know what partition sizes are suitable just leave the decision 
to the installer.

Welcome to the Linux community :)

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Re: [newbie] japanese characters input Mandrake 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Chris Spackman


ivo jorris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I installed a fresh Mandrake9.0 and also installed all
 packages that support japanese characters input.
 Can somone help me to input japanese characters in
 Mandrake9.0.?
 my keybord is 106-jp keyboard, n' I'm using gnome.

Well, this is for 8.2 but if it hasn't changed . . .

Did you set the language to Japanese during install? If so, make sure
that the jserver is running and then hit shift-space to input
japanese. (a little box or something similar should popup for input).

If locale is not japanese, you will need to run localedrake. you can
check that jserver is running in the services section of the mandrake
control center.

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RE: [newbie] Kernel Panic on boot from Install CD on Athlon

2002-10-04 Thread ravi r


I have tried that. It doesnt work.
I think the problem is with the video card i have.
if that is the case will it work if i phyisically
remove the video card and install linux and then
insert the video card again ? 

Thanks
Ravi
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 Install CD on Athlon
 
 
 Also, what video card is being used? What happens
 when you attempt an
 install in text mode? It would seem that if the
 problem continues across
 multiple distros, then hardware would be the first
 place I would start
 looking. Try a different video card. Also, you may
 want to look into the
 possibility of a bad install CD, I had a similar
 problem installing MDK 8.2,
 and then burned another copy and it worked
 flawless... a lot of research,
 time and effort was wasted on that one. (unlikely
 that this is the case
 since redhat does the same thing, but worth a shot.)
 
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 CD on Athlon
 
   File: message.footer  Hi,
 
 I am trying to install Mandrake8.2 on my new
 Athlon(XP1800+) box from the installation CDs
 (downloaded from one of the mirrors).
 The installer interface comes up and when i choose
 to
 install, it fails and issue a kernel panic.
 The following are the first few error msgs:
 
 vesafb:frame buffer  and some hex numbers
 vesafb:mode is 800X600X16; line length = 1600; pages
 3
 vesafb:protected mode interface at c000:c590
 
 I would like to know what is the problem and how i
 can
 get around it.
 I had the same problem when i tried to install
 redhat7.2
 
 Other info.
 has win2k running( planning to make a dual boot
 machine)
 
 Thanks
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[newbie] SMTP port 25

2002-10-04 Thread David Seuferer


Hello,
I've got a process that is listening to port 25 that is 
owned by /usr/lib/postfix/master.  What is this and do
I need it running?





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Re: [newbie] ps/2 mouse freeze on starting X

2002-10-04 Thread Technoslick


I run 'gpm' and X-Windows together always. I have done this in older 
distros in RH and MDK, right up to versions 7.2 and 8.2, respectively. I 
use PS/2 when I have it, but serial as well. I can't remember ever 
having ever experienced your problem.

A mouse driver is very simple in action at the command prompt since 
video is also relatively simple at this point. I run my MDK 8.2 machine 
at 'vga=768' resolution with 'gpm' running, and easily get into KDE or 
GNOME without problems from my PS/2 mouse (a Belkin three-button 
cheapie!) Once you are in an X-Windows session, it would seem to me that 
your X-server is the driving force with 'gpm' holding its own 
environment space for use in a terminal while X is running. I suspect 
that your problem is in X, not 'gpm'.

Are you sure that you have X-server properly picked out and set 
according to your video card's attributes and capabilities? Are you 
pushing video to its max resolution, color depth and refresh rate? Have 
you tried to check keyboard access when the mouse locks up to see if the 
mouse is really locking up or if its really the X-Windows session? If 
your keyboard is inactive, it seems more probable that you have an 
improperly set-up X-Server (or maybe the wrong one for your video card?)

What's your video, VRAM and brand of mouse you are using? What are the 
setting that you configured with XF86Setup? I am sure that many here 
could help you see where you need to make changes if we knew more about 
your configuration.

T


Abhijeet Joglekar wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a dual boot system with win2K and Mandrake 9.0. The ps/2 mouse
 works fine under windows and also on the linux console (with gpm). But
 once X starts, the system crashes as soon as I move the mouse a few times.
 (The keyboard and mouse hang and I have to do a hard reboot. Since my
 machine is not on the network, I cant ssh and check it has crashed
 completely.)
 
 I read on the web that there is some problem with linux kernel for ps/2
 mouses and two fixes were suggested:
 
 1) dont run gpm and X together.
 2) run gpm with -R option in which it copies mouse movement data to a fifo
which X can read from by configuring Mouse device as /dev/gpmdata in
XF86Config.
 
 (Also, googling revealed that this problem is only there for ps/2 rodents
 and NOT for serial/usb mice, but I havent checked them yet).
 
 Both solutions did not work. The mouse still causes X to freeze.
 
 Also, interrupt 12 is not shared by any other device.
 
 Did others face any such problems?
 
 Thanks.
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[newbie] Pan alerts


Does anyone know how to turn off the alerts in Pan? Specifically the ones 
that say this message is mostly quoted text and the even more annoying 
your signature is more than 4 lines long?

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[newbie] Java quirk in Konqueror


I finally figured out how to get java working in konqueror about a month 
ago, when I was still using 8.2. Worked like a charm, except it got going 
a little slow, but I can live with that. 

Now, I have 9.0 running, and it seems real nice. Problem is, when I go to 
a page that has java on it, the area in the browser says loading java 
applet,' and the actual java applet appears as a pop up, in a different 
window. No big deal on a site like nypost.com, but on a page like 
genelake.com, where the applets are the navigation links, it's a real 
drag. Does anyone know why this is happening, and how to get it back the 
way it should be?

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Rog

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Re: [newbie] Now That I've D/L'd Linux 9.0...

2002-10-04 Thread Andre Stevens

Derek:
I just did a copy/paste. Was this the correct way to copy the files?
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[newbie] Trying to get GNOME panel to look more like KDE

2002-10-04 Thread Rob Black


Hi

I've been a Linux user for all of 5 days now, during which time I've
installed and deleted Red Hat 7.3, Mandrake 8.2, Red Hat 8.0 and Mandrake
9.0 !!

Mandrake 9 is my fave so far, since it's the only one that my soundcard
worked in (SB Live with digital speakers)

Anyway, my problem is this: I've been using KDE everytime I've used Linux,
but after looking at GNOME, it seems faster, plus it has Ximian Evolution,
which I rather like (blows Outlook XP away completely)

But in Mandrake 9, GNOME looks weird, there's a blank (ish) panel at the
bottom of the screen, and another Mac-stylee panel at the top, how to I get
all this stuff to the bottom of the screen (like in Red Hat / Mandrake 8.2)
?

I really want to sort this out, since I'm so impressed with Linux I can't
tell you.  For instance, I'm an ASP developer by trade, and am used to
Windows NT/2K, IIS, SQL Server etc... But to build a new Windows server from
nothing, getting the database server up and running, and installing, for
instance, an ASP based web forum, would take at least a day, yet I installed
Linux, set-up apache  mySQL, created a virtual host, and installed phpBB2
in about an hour!  (I'm extra impressed with phpBB, it took like 5 minutes
to get going!)

Enough of my rambling, but Linux is pretty damn cool :-)

Rob.




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[newbie] Pine in 9.0


How can there be no Pine included in 9.0? There should be a law that 
states Pine has to be included with every single version of linux.

This is more a rant, than a question - no real need to answer. Sorry if 
you consider this an abuse of bandwidth. ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Can I

2002-10-04 Thread Warren Post


El mié, 02-10-2002 a las 17:41, Edward Reynolds escribió:

 I would like to know if there is a tool that will allow me to resize my
 Windows partition, without loosing the data on that partition.  I have
 about 5 GB of free space on that partition.

Partition Resizer. Free from tucows.com but not open source. DOS based floppy.
Parted. Free from freshmeat.net and open source. Linux based floppy.

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Re: [newbie] Trying to get GNOME panel to look more like KDE

2002-10-04 Thread Alastair Scott


Rob wrote:

 Anyway, my problem is this: I've been using KDE everytime I've used Linux,
 but after looking at GNOME, it seems faster, plus it has Ximian Evolution,
 which I rather like (blows Outlook XP away completely)
 
 But in Mandrake 9, GNOME looks weird, there's a blank (ish) panel at the
 bottom of the screen, and another Mac-stylee panel at the top, how to I get
 all this stuff to the bottom of the screen (like in Red Hat / Mandrake 8.2)

This is being recalled from memory as I'm currently using a Windows NT machine ;)

The trick is to use the right mouse button on the existing panels. There's a plethora 
of options in the pop-up menu that appears; you can remove panels completely, move 
them around, change their width or add or remove a variety of applets to or from the 
panel.

Probably one of the first things you want to do is add the GNOME Menu to the 
existing panel at the bottom; that gives you a 'foot' icon which pops up a 
near-replica of the Mandrake and Actions menus in the top panel.

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Re: [newbie] Now That I've D/L'd Linux 9.0...

2002-10-04 Thread Derek Jennings


On Friday 04 Oct 2002 3:27 pm, Andre Stevens wrote:
 Derek:

 I just did a copy/paste. Was this the correct way to copy the files?

 Dre--


 I assume you downloaded the 'ISO image'  (One big file per CD) ?

If the CD you created is then 'browsable'  (You can see lots of files inside 
it), then you are probably OK.  If it still looks like one big file, you have 
done it wrong.

Here are burning instructions for popular Windows applications

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/howtos/iso/howtoisoen.html


The crucial test of course is Does it boot

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RE: [newbie] Now That I've D/L'd Linux 9.0...




incidently, if you have the iso file on the CD, and not the iso files 
contents, then you did it wrong...
Also, 
if you want to check the iso files first.. (a good idea) then download md5summer 
(look for it on google) its a windows app for comparing 
md5's

so you 
use md5summer to generate an md5 from your downloaded iso, then compare it to 
the one in the md5 file on the server you got the iso from.


good 
luck, and as mentioned, welcome.


rgds

Frank


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  Behalf Of Andre StevensSent: Friday, 4 October 2002 9:03 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Now 
  That I've D/L'd Linux 9.0...
  How do I install v9.0 on a PC that has WindowsNT on it. I want to 
  blow away the current NT OS. 
  Also I'm not sure I downloaded the file correctly (everytime I tried to log 
  onto the FTP site I got a screen asking for a username and password; I gave a 
  username and used the "log in as anonymous user" selection); when I was able 
  to connect to a site, I copyed the ISO files and burned them to a CD.
  Can I use this CD to boot from or did I have to expand the files first?
  
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[newbie] file permission

2002-10-04 Thread John Bodden




Hello all.

I looked at the file permissions on the Apache 
server I am running for testing purposes. One of the files, Index.shtml has the 
following permissions

-rw-rwSr--

What is the "S" in the group 
permission?

RE: [newbie] Pine in 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN


If I recall, Pine isn't included in 9 due to licensing issues. Pine was included in 
8.1, and I installed that version with no problems.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
OTS
WPAFB


Original Message-
From: Roger Sherman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Pine in 9.0


How can there be no Pine included in 9.0? There should be a law that 
states Pine has to be included with every single version of linux.

This is more a rant, than a question - no real need to answer. Sorry if 
you consider this an abuse of bandwidth. ;-)

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peace,

Rog

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RE: [newbie] Pine in 9.0


As I understand it, Pine is no longer GPL software.. they changed the
license..

Mandrake has a strict no non GPL software in the download edition.. so no
pine. Netscape4 Qmail etc etc etc...

Its all available in contrib download areas though.. I also put pine on all
my systems, for checking mail over ssh remotely, and for pico which in a
pinch does the job as an editor..


rgds

frank

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Sent: Friday, 4 October 2002 10:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Pine in 9.0


How can there be no Pine included in 9.0? There should be a law that
states Pine has to be included with every single version of linux.

This is more a rant, than a question - no real need to answer. Sorry if
you consider this an abuse of bandwidth. ;-)

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RE: [newbie] Pine in 9.0


On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN wrote:

  If I recall, Pine isn't included in 9 due to licensing issues. Pine was 
 included in 8.1, and I installed that version with no problems.
 
Hmmm...I wonder what changed. It was in 8.2 as well, and I was able to get 
a mandrake optimised RPM off rpmfind.net...I wonder why the pine guys 
changed things.


 
 Brian D. Klar - CVE
 OTS
 WPAFB
 
 
 Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Pine in 9.0
 
 
 How can there be no Pine included in 9.0? There should be a law that 
 states Pine has to be included with every single version of linux.
 
 This is more a rant, than a question - no real need to answer. Sorry if 
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RE: [newbie] Pine in 9.0


anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0

I am wandering around ftp sites looking for it.. like a src rpm that will
build on both??

any ideas people?

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Re: [newbie] OT - Gnukes


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 suffered by people actually using it..

 wonder who it is here

 anyone care to come forward about microsoft affiliation???   :-)

well you all know i get email from the monkey dance boy

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tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)

2002-10-04 Thread Paul


In reply to Franki's mail, d.d. Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:16 +0800:

anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0

rpmfind.net ?

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Recall: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)

2002-10-04 Thread Tony S. Sykes


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RE: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)

2002-10-04 Thread Tony S. Sykes

tightvnc is included in 9.

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To: newbie
Subject: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)

In reply to Franki's mail, d.d. Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:16 +0800:

anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0

rpmfind.net ?

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Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Charles A Edwards


On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:16 +0800
Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0


tightvnc-1.2.5-2mdk.i586.rpm comes with 9.0.
You should be able to rebuild the source for 8.2


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RE: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)


tried it.. first thing actually...

Couldn't find a src rpm.. didn't know which distro the binaries were for.

rgds

frank

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Subject: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)


In reply to Franki's mail, d.d. Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:16 +0800:

anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0

rpmfind.net ?

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[newbie] preparing to install 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Angus Auld


Greetings everyone,

I have succeeded in downloading the Mdk 9.0 iso's and burning them to cd. :) I did the 
downloading and burning on a WinXP box, and used md5summer.exe to check the iso's. All 
seems to have gone OK.

I've been using 8.2 for a while, but I would like to ask what is my best option to 
install 9.0: should I wipe out my 3 partitions and reinstall 9.0 fresh, or can I 
safely save my /home partition from 8.2 to be used in 9.0? 
I really don't have any valuable data, but it would be nice to save my preferences. I 
do want to do it the way that will insure the best install however.

Also, should I go with the recommended installation, or try the expert mode? I'm 
not too sure about trying anything that requires I be an expert just yet.;)
I want to install everything that is required to build rpms from source.is that 
possible? If I choose to install the development package, will that be close to 
getting me there?

Any thoughts?? 
TIA.



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[newbie] RE: tightvnc


sorry, forgot to set the subject...

is it included in 8.2??  I couldn't find it...

rgds

Frank

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Subject: RE: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)


tightvnc is included in 9.

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Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:32 PM
To: newbie
Subject: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)


In reply to Franki's mail, d.d. Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:16 +0800:

anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0

rpmfind.net ?

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Re: [newbie] preparing to install 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread JM5379


i would suggest installing fresh; upgrading has yet to work for
me on a few tries.  and yes, you can safely keep your user info
in /home/username.

i always use expert mode even though expert is definitely a
relative phrase here *g*.  i'm not sure if recommended will
give you the option of selecting which partitions to overwrite
and which to save (ie /home).  give expert a try; the worst that
can happen is you'll have to kill it and start over, and you've
already indicated you have nothing critical that must be saved. 
it's really not as scary as the name implies *s*.

hth,
joe


--- Original Message ---
From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] preparing to install 9.0

Greetings everyone,

I have succeeded in downloading the Mdk 9.0 iso's and burning
them to cd. :) I did the downloading and burning on a WinXP box,
and used md5summer.exe to check the iso's. All seems to have gone OK.

I've been using 8.2 for a while, but I would like to ask what is
my best option to install 9.0: should I wipe out my 3 partitions
and reinstall 9.0 fresh, or can I safely save my /home partition
from 8.2 to be used in 9.0? 
I really don't have any valuable data, but it would be nice to
save my preferences. I do want to do it the way that will insure
the best install however.

Also, should I go with the recommended installation, or try
the expert mode? I'm not too sure about trying anything that
requires I be an expert just yet.;)
I want to install everything that is required to build rpms from
source.is that possible? If I choose to install the
development package, will that be close to getting me there?

Any thoughts?? 
TIA.



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Re: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)

2002-10-04 Thread Stormjumper


hi frank,

i've been using the tightvnc binary rpms from rpmfind.net
on my stock mdk 8.2 system for a couple of months.
was at 1.2.4-1mdk then, probably 1.2.5-x now.

worked outta the box for me.

YMMV.

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 01:05:00 +0800
Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tried it.. first thing actually...
 
 Couldn't find a src rpm.. didn't know which distro the binaries were
 for.
 
 rgds
 
 frank
 
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 Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2002 12:32 AM
 To: newbie
 Subject: tightvnc (was Re: [newbie] Pine in 9.0)
 
 
 In reply to Franki's mail, d.d. Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:44:16 +0800:
 
 anyone know where I can get tightvnc for both 8.2 and 9.0
 
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Re: [newbie] preparing to install 9.0

2002-10-04 Thread Alastair Scott


On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 22:26:11 +0500 Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings everyone,
 
 I have succeeded in downloading the Mdk 9.0 iso's and burning them to cd. :) I did 
the downloading and burning on a WinXP box, and used md5summer.exe to check the 
iso's. All seems to have gone OK.
 
 I've been using 8.2 for a while, but I would like to ask what is my best option to 
install 9.0: should I wipe out my 3 partitions and reinstall 9.0 fresh, or can I 
safely save my /home partition from 8.2 to be used in 9.0? 
 I really don't have any valuable data, but it would be nice to save my preferences. 
I do want to do it the way that will insure the best install however.

Personally, I would back up /home to CD-R or whatever then install 9.0 from scratch by 
reformatting all existing partitions. Unfortunately backwards compatibility of 
initialisation files is far from perfect; Mozilla and OpenOffice.org seem to cause 
particular difficulties.

Then, from the backup, you can put back configuration files (eg Mozilla bookmarks, 
mail directories, and so on).

 Also, should I go with the recommended installation, or try the expert mode? I'm 
not too sure about trying anything that requires I be an expert just yet.;)

I would try recommended. Expert can pop up some rather obscure options, particularly 
at the hardware detection stage.

 I want to install everything that is required to build rpms from source.is that 
possible? If I choose to install the development package, will that be close to 
getting me there?

Yes, as that installs the development libraries and similar. Missing it out means, 
quite often, that you eventually have to load them one by one.

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[newbie] rename my computer

2002-10-04 Thread eric jackson




While installing Linux or setting up my network, I 
gave my linux server the same name as a computer I already had on my network. 
Does anyone here know howI can change the name of my computer so that the 
right name shows up whenI use LinNeighborhood and Samba?

Thanks for any help you can give.

Eric Jackson

[newbie] SNF7.2 cannot access from msie or redhat browser ...

2002-10-04 Thread Bob Bourne


Can't access SNF7.2 box from msie browser. Can't ping SNF7.2 from Win98 SE
box. New Redhat installation could not find eth0.

I run win98se on both boxes - Internet Connection Sharing - so that seems to
prove that the ethernet connections are OK.

I've been running SNF for months now without any real problems, and then I
crashed it. I've installed it many times without major problems.

But now I can't access through a browser.

I'd appreciate answers or clues ...

Bob Bourne.

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Re: [newbie] rename my computer

2002-10-04 Thread Erylon Hines


On Friday 04 October 2002 12:10 pm, you wrote:
 While installing Linux or setting up my network, I gave my linux server the
 same name as a computer I already had on my network. Does anyone here know
 how I can change the name of my computer so that the right name shows up
 when I use LinNeighborhood and Samba?

 Thanks for any help you can give.

 Eric Jackson

Start MenuConfigurationNetconf  [type the root password]acceptHost name 
and IP network devices  {and there you are}.  

Also check your /etc/samba/smb.conf file and change the netbios name there 
and your other machines /etc/samba/lmhosts file should also contain your new 
machine name--so should /etc/hosts.  Also check the text file 
/etc/sysconfig/network and be sure the hostname gets changed there, too.

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[newbie] Can anyone recommend a good media player?

2002-10-04 Thread Rob Black


Hi

I've got a few MPG, AVI (VFW  DivX) files from my windows drive that I'd
like to be able to play in Linux, but I can't seem to find anything that
will play them, the built in player (Xine is it?) won't play my files.

I did try and download MPlayer for Linux (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/)
but it was a lot of hassle, and didn't really want to work (complained that
gcc was the wrong version, suggested I get an older one)

Any suggestions?

Thanks

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[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation problems

2002-10-04 Thread Brian Meadows



Hi all, 

Baffled by this one, anyone got any ideas? 

I'm trying to upgrade a box currently running Mandrake 8.2
(Pentium 133, 64 MB RAM, one 6.4GB hard drive as the primary
master, a Mitsumi FX240S as the primary slave, and a second 2GB
hard drive as the secondary master). Insert the 9.0 disk 1, with
the PC set to boot from CD-ROM of course, I get the usual POST
and BIOS messages, then the following 

ISOLINUX 1.76 Mandrake Linux isolinux
Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it
isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM drive: boot failed

And that's it - the PC hangs, and a hard reboot is the only way
out. 

Yes, the downloaded images did give correct MD5 sums before I
burned them to CD. 

Anyone have any ideas? Obviously the system still knows it has
the CD-ROM there (at least initially), as it would otherwise drop
me into GRUB and my 8.2 startup. I can't believe Mandrake have
removed support for my particular CD-ROM from V9.0. 

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Re: [newbie] Cisco VPN client question update

2002-10-04 Thread Jim Fazio


List,
One more update.  In 8.2 this same client complies just fine.  My 8.2
is using gcc-2.96 where 9.0 is using gcc-3.2.  Could this be a problem? 
And again do I care? sence it seems to be working.

Jim F

On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 20:16, Jim Fazio wrote:
 List,
   My original problem/question was that I could not get my Cisco VPN
 client to work on any MDK kernel newer than 2.4.18-6 in MDK 8.2.  When I
 upgraded my kernel in 8.2 it failed to ever work again, even on
 re-install (of vpn client).  In MDK9.0 the vpn client also did not
 work.  After alot of research I found that someone once said that the
 kernel on their RH distro did not appear to be made from the source
 files that accompanied it.  So I did a make dep in my /usr/src/linux,
 then a make bzImage, and nothing else ( I did not even touch the
 .config), so this should be an exact copy? of the stock kernel?  Well my
 vpn client works on this new kernel.  So I guess my problem is solved.
 
   But...  On compilation of the vpn client I got this stuff;
 
 Making module
 frag.c: In function `queue_fragment':
 frag.c:55: warning: concatenation of string literals with __FUNCTION__
 is deprecated
 frag.c:62: warning: concatenation of string literals with __FUNCTION__
 is deprecated
 frag.c:78: warning: concatenation of string literals with __FUNCTION__
 is deprecated
 frag.c: In function `have_all_fragments':
 frag.c:122: warning: concatenation of string literals with __FUNCTION__
 is deprecated
 frag.c: In function `need_reorder_frag':
 frag.c:202: warning: concatenation of string literals with __FUNCTION__
 is deprecated
 frag.c: In function `handle_fragment':
 frag.c:257: warning: concatenation of string literals with __FUNCTION__
 is deprecated
 Create module directory /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/CiscoVPN.
 Copying module to directory /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/CiscoVPN.
 Creating start/stop script /etc/init.d/vpnclient_init.
 Creating VPN configuration file
 /etc/CiscoSystemsVPNClient/vpnclient.ini.
 
   It seems to work, I get connected, and stay connected.  Is this stuff a
 problem?  Should I still be working on this?  Or .. just be happy :-)  
 
 P.S. I love 9.0 and think I'm ready to trash my working 8.2.
 
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On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Rob Black wrote:

 Hi
 
 I've got a few MPG, AVI (VFW  DivX) files from my windows drive that I'd
 like to be able to play in Linux, but I can't seem to find anything that
 will play them, the built in player (Xine is it?) won't play my files.
 
 I did try and download MPlayer for Linux (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/)
 but it was a lot of hassle, and didn't really want to work (complained that
 gcc was the wrong version, suggested I get an older one)
 
 Any suggestions?

Which version of Mandrake are you using? In 9.0, Xine works fine for me 
for most avi and divx...xmms plays avi, as well.


 
 Thanks
 
 Rob.
 
 
 

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peace,

Rog

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[newbie] X-Windows

2002-10-04 Thread Edward Reynolds


Can anyone tell me if 8.2 development enviroment will support
programming in X-Windows?  DOes it come with the required libraries?

Thanks
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[newbie] Printer stopped working

2002-10-04 Thread Linus Drouhard


Hi all,
I have an Espon Stylus 777 that was working fine until a couple of days ago.  
I recently installed Mandrake 9.0.  I think that the printer worked under 
9.0, but I'm not sure  It worked great under 8.2 and it still works fine 
with Windows (as much as I hate to admit it).

Anyway, I'm getting the following message in CUPS administration

Printer State: processing, accepting jobs. 
USB port busy; will retry in 30 seconds... 
Device URI: usb:/dev/usb/lp0 

Printerdrake cannot see the printer at all.  KDE Control panel printer 
configuration utility can see the printer, but still can't print.  I get the 
same error.

I tried PrinterDrake from command line.  It gave me the error...


[root@localhost linus]# printerdrake
cupsd (pid 1496) is running...
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
WARNING: pinging broadcast address
rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded
modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe
modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe
rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded
WARNING: pinging broadcast address


...could not find printer.  

the module parport is loaded, but why does that matter as I'm using a USB 
printer.

Any help, insights, or just plain sympathy is welcomed. 

Thanks,

Linus



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation problems

2002-10-04 Thread Technoslick

Your 24X Mitsumi IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drive (Mfg. date - circa 1997) is
designed to read CD-Rs, BUT is limited to a max storage capacity of 630
MBs in Mode 2 (standard read mode). You may not be able to read the
Install CD for MDK 9 (~690+ MBs) properly or at all.

Is this burn of MDK 9 from the very same burner you used to make your
MDK 8.2 CDs? Is your CD-RW capable of burning 700 MB CD-Rs? Have you
checked disc number one for complete readability?

It sounds like the size of the first CD of MDK 9 is your problem. Either
your burner cannot accommodate beyond 650 MBs and/or your CD-ROM drive
cannot read beyond that point (as your specs suggest!) Be aware that
using 'over-burning' (Nero offers this feature) may damage your CD-RW
drive if it cannot handle traversing that far inward.

BTW: If you lack the specs on your CD-ROM drive, they are here:
http://support.tulip.com/TulipExchange/Public/nlhe0016.nsf/332a0dc0f76dd553412567370035f4a2/3055793e2171be614125654c00493b53?OpenDocument
(careful! one very long URL!)

Shane has been able to trick some CD-ROM drives into reading beyond
their mfg. capacity. However, if I understand him correctly, the drives
at least allowed the install to get to the point of picking out the
packages (where you could choose to nix those that were in the nether
regions of your CD-R.) If you aren't able to get the installation to
recognize the drive, it would seem this is a moot technique.

Some things to consider in your hardware setup of drives and CD-ROMs for
the future:

1. It would be best for your setup if you slaved the two drives together
on the primary IDE channel and made the CD-ROM drive the master on the
second IDE channel. It's really not best for the performance of the
drive to have a CD-ROM on the same channel and can cause problems.

2. Use the largest (and usually the fastest because of size) drive as
the master, the other as the slave. Make sure that you have your jumpers
set correctly, per the drive mfg.'s specs.

3. Be aware that slaving one mfg.'s drive to another is always a
crap-shoot. It either works very well, works well most of the time, or
in some cases, just won't slave to the master. Some Conners, Maxtor's
and Seagates will not mate up to each other (speaking specifically of
older, smaller IDEs, now...) and I have seen some that will not even
mate up to themselves (that is, the same mfg.!)

Does any of this help?

Brian Meadows wrote:
Hi all,

Baffled by this one, anyone got any ideas?

I'm trying to upgrade a box currently running Mandrake 8.2
(Pentium 133, 64 MB RAM, one 6.4GB hard drive as the primary
master, a Mitsumi FX240S as the primary slave, and a second 2GB
hard drive as the secondary master). Insert the 9.0 disk 1, with
the PC set to boot from CD-ROM of course, I get the usual POST
and BIOS messages, then the following

ISOLINUX 1.76 Mandrake Linux isolinux
Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it
isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM drive: boot failed

And that's it - the PC hangs, and a hard reboot is the only way
out.

Yes, the downloaded images did give correct MD5 sums before I
burned them to CD.

Anyone have any ideas? Obviously the system still knows it has
the CD-ROM there (at least initially), as it would otherwise drop
me into GRUB and my 8.2 startup. I can't believe Mandrake have
removed support for my particular CD-ROM from V9.0.

Thanks,

Brian.

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Re: [newbie] ps/2 mouse freeze on starting X

2002-10-04 Thread Abhijeet Joglekar


 Try adding an append statement to lilo to reduce memory usage by the
 amount of shared RAM used for video (your RAM amount less the 32 MB of
 shared video RAM). Your X-Windows session may be trying to tap into the
 very same memory registers that video is using. It is a proper
 precaution, if nothing else. 256 MB - 32 MB then equals 224 MB usable RAM:

 append mem=224

I used the option linux mem=224M while installation. I thought that
would do the trick.


 never realizing that it had an S3 chipset. XF86Config would show you
 what your current setup is, as well as allow you to make changes. I like

I want to find out which of those settings from XF86Config does X actually
pick up when it starts up. i.e. once X is running, how can I find out what
is the settings which it chose?

 it because it allows me to change mouse, keyboard, video and monitor
 settings in one fell swoop. Xconfigurator will work, too, but it will
 only deal with video, resolution, color depth and choice of monitor.
 Whichever program you use, make sure that you check your final settings
 to see if they work. If it allows your settings, you're doing it.

During installation, it did seem to work. Anyway I will try configuring
again and maybe do a manual selection of the chipset.

 Of course, if all is set correctly and you only have this problem in
 Linux, not Windows...you could have weak or bad memory.

What does that mean?




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Re: [newbie] Printer stopped working

2002-10-04 Thread yiupun


Hi Linus,

I have the same problem.  The instal  actually
detected my printer and printed a test page, but
haven't worked since.

I tried deleting the printer, but then I couldn't get
printerdrake to work.

Any help I can get on how to properly add and
configure my printer is appreciated.

I have an Epson Stylus Color 740 connected to the USB
port.

Mike K.


--- Linus Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
   I have an Espon Stylus 777 that was working fine
 until a couple of days ago.  
 I recently installed Mandrake 9.0.  I think that the
 printer worked under 
 9.0, but I'm not sure  It worked great under 8.2
 and it still works fine 
 with Windows (as much as I hate to admit it).
 
   Anyway, I'm getting the following message in CUPS
 administration
 
 Printer State: processing, accepting jobs. 
 USB port busy; will retry in 30 seconds... 
 Device URI: usb:/dev/usb/lp0 
 
 Printerdrake cannot see the printer at all.  KDE
 Control panel printer 
 configuration utility can see the printer, but still
 can't print.  I get the 
 same error.
 
 I tried PrinterDrake from command line.  It gave me
 the error...
 
 
 [root@localhost linus]# printerdrake
 cupsd (pid 1496) is running...
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded
 modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe
 modprobe: Can't locate module parport_probe
 rmmod: module parport_probe is not loaded
 WARNING: pinging broadcast address
 
 
 ...could not find printer.  
 
 the module parport is loaded, but why does that
 matter as I'm using a USB 
 printer.
 
 Any help, insights, or just plain sympathy is
 welcomed. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Linus
 
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Re: [newbie] Can anyone recommend a good media player?


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On Friday 04 October 2002 7:17 pm, Rob Black did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

 Hi

 I've got a few MPG, AVI (VFW  DivX) files from my windows drive that I'd
 like to be able to play in Linux, but I can't seem to find anything that
 will play them, the built in player (Xine is it?) won't play my files.

 I did try and download MPlayer for Linux

you might try the mplayer rpms from the PLF at http://plf.zarb.org/ i had it 
running in 8.2 very well with those.  haven't gotten around to it yet for 
9..

- -- 
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the truth, remember that the next time someone says honestly now, tell me 
what you think

shane
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 installation problems


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masses, saying:

 I'm trying to upgrade a box currently running Mandrake 8.2
 (Pentium 133, 64 MB RAM, one 6.4GB hard drive as the primary
 master, a Mitsumi FX240S as the primary slave, and a second 2GB
 hard drive as the secondary master). Insert the 9.0 disk 1, with
 the PC set to boot from CD-ROM of course, I get the usual POST
 and BIOS messages, then the following

did you install from cd boot before?  my older machines (166) simply do not 
boot correctly from cd.  ever.

floppy time..

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Re: [newbie] Image Conversion

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Adams


On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 09:42, John Richard Smith wrote:
 Andreas Weiss wrote:
  John Richard Smith wrote:
  Does anyone out there know of any programme that can convert black
  and white
  image files to colour.Some years ago I read somewhere that a
  technology using
  computer software had been invented that could do this. I know colour
  can be
  converted to BW in gimp , but I am talking about colourising BW
  pictures.
 
  John
 
  i don't know if this question is not OT in this list, but generally:
  - you can always downgrade a picture: less pixel, less color, ...
  - you can not upgrade a picture, at least not with usual programs like
  gimp, photoshop, corel draw, ...
 
  regards
  andreas

 I guess so, I just thought I read an article somewhere, that's all, it
 was some time
 ago.Thanks anyway.
 John

The tecnique teknique technique --- method is a little slow, but it can be
done.

1. Load the greyscale image into GIMP.
2. Image  Mode  RGB
3. Select the lasso tool
4. Lasso an area to be recoloured
5. Image  Colors  Color Balance
6. Turn Preview ON
7. Play with the sliders until it looks about right
8. Click OK
9. Repeat steps 4 to 8 til done
10. Grab another beer and admire the finished product

Time consumed up to 4 hours depending on fussiness and if you have the mouse
or a graphic tablet for the lasso tool.

--
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