Re: [newbie-it] ati radeon 9000
Grazie per la dritta ,adesso ci provo poi ti so dire (va avanti tu,che a me vien da ridere) - Original Message - From: Rev.Ferris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] ati radeon 9000 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 12:13, lunedì 7 luglio 2003, mario ha scritto: Salute alla lista,avendo un poco di tempo mi diverto al computer,ho una scheda grafica ati redon 9000 e mi picerebbe giocare a tuxracer ,quando provo mi si oscura lo schermo,sento solo i suoni ma non vedo niente ,ho un monitor lcd esiste il modo di giocarci,non che sia fondamentale ma insomma uno sfizio ogni tanto grazie mario io non ci ho ancora guardato( la devo sistemare anch'io) ma a me han dato questo link: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/60984 Se poi ti va avvertimi che la sistemo anch'io ;-) - -- - - Qual e' il Santo piu' dotato? - - San Pietro, perche' sta in Paradiso, ma la sua cappella e' a Roma. -- Da it.hobby.umorismo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DKM1TvJtVxCNwP4RAubCAJ9v7g9trVuM8PR3AdXX20FWgwSQfQCgjzNk B7TPw54+zJx1FLp4a00b0oI= =Udww -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] Programmatori games
Salve a tutti, mi permetto di inviarvi questa richiesta che mi è giunta questa mattina, sperando che qualcuno possa essere interessato. Contattare: Egidio Francesco Cipriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] forward Salve ragazzi, mi servono urgentemene programmatori per creazioni di Videogame di tipo spara e fuggi stile Unreal - TombRaider. Richiedo conoscenze Direct-X (Windows, X-Box) e OpenGL (UNIX- PS/2), sarà impartita formazione per l'uso di tool rad (è richiesta la conoscenza dei linguaggi C e C++). La sede di lavoro è a casa propria tranne alcuni incontri (spesati) in Taranto e possibili trasferte USA e Francia Cari Ragazzi, la cosa anche se ludica è molto seria e ben remunerata, se conoscete qualche bravo ragazzino geniale è ben accetto. un saluto Egidio --- Egidio Francesco Cipriano Associazione Informatici Professionisti - Italian Computer Society http://www.aipnet.it AICA Member Linux Certified Professional # Y12A575 Microsoft Certified Professional # 2080217 tel. Fax +39-099-7761284 cell.+39-347-9016042 end forward -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux 2.4.21 on Pentium III - 733 Mhz Linux User # 203143 Linux Machine # 175781
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
Ciao, grazie per avermi risposto... Vorrei allora chiederti come posso istallare (Indicami la procedura, passo per passo) istallare Linux sulla seconda ripartizione??? Grazie antonello. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: mercoledì 9 luglio 2003 23.32.51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento... Anche io ho un Asus portatile. Ho installato proprio la Mandrake 9.0 e non mi ha dato alcun problema . Teoricamente ci dovrebbero essere già 2 partizioni nell'hard disk quindi l'operazione è ancora più facile. Collega il mouse usb direttamente al momento dell'installazione così lo riconosce subito. Purtroppo non sono riuscito ad installare la stampante, ma penso che non dovrebbe dare troppi problemi. Semplicemente io non ho tempo di farlo. Comunque chissenefrega, stampo da windows. Probabilmente molti mi spareranno da questa mailing list, ma penso che sia, al giorno d'oggi, opportuno sfruttare al meglio tutti e due i sistemi operativi, dato che ciascuno ha i suoi pregi e i suoi difetti!!! Ciao. - Original Message - From: Antonello To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: [newbie-it] Mi presento... Salve a tutti, sono Antonio dalla Provincia di Bari e ho istallato da poco Linux sul mio Pc. Vorrei farvi 2 Domande: Posso istallare Linux anche sul mio portatile Asus? Come posso istallare e compilare il software su Linux? Ciao. Antonio. P.s.:Ah, ho istallato Mandrake 9.0. Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: clicca qui Sponsor:Vuoi cambiare i tuoi interessi ma non la tua banca?Clicca qui IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: clicca qui Sponsor: Da Peraga un giro del mondo gastronomico tra un acquisto l'altro... fai un salto al Ristoro Sunflower. Clicca qui
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 20:24, mercoledì 9 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento..., Michele De Lorenzi ha scritto: dell'installazione così lo riconosce subito. Purtroppo non sono riuscito ad installare la stampante, ma penso che non dovrebbe dare troppi problemi. Semplicemente io non ho tempo di farlo. Comunque chissenefrega, stampo da windows. Probabilmente molti mi spareranno da questa mailing list, ma penso che sia, al giorno d'oggi, opportuno sfruttare al meglio tutti e due i sistemi operativi, dato che ciascuno ha i suoi pregi e i suoi difetti!!! non ti spara nessuno, ma non è un pò scomodo riavviare per una stampa? - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DURfF/9fksDJ4y0RAhO4AKCGAQemaBfGTUvZrDz4sMYCnnTrQACgnfCn ZD5tsD9ruXnqrhp+v4Xb+wI= =4c1U -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] speed touch 330
sono spiacente di non poter fornire ulteriori informazioni per il corretto funzionamento dell'alcatel usb. Anch'io non sono più riuscito a farlo funzionare dopo le prime connessioni dopo averlo configurato nel modo seguente: Da "centro di controllo Mandrake 9.1"su Rete e Internet "DrakConnect..." AssistenteUsa riconscimento automatico -avanti connessione ADSL - rilevato - Avantispunto "Alcatel speedtouch usb - detected - avantiImmetto i dati relativi richiesti - avantiProvo connessione adesso - si - avanti si è connesso e le successive connessioni con il comando dashell: # net_monitor ma gia' da tempo non ne vuol piu' sapere e mi da questo errore:Glib-CRITICAL **: file gmain.c: line 500 (g_source_remove): assertion 'tag 0' failed.SIOCDELRT: No such processstarting ADSL connection: [FALLITO] Se qualcuno vorra' o potra' darci una mano grazie e saluti a tutti carlo ___ IncrediMail - il mondo della posta elettronica si è finalmente evoluto - Clicca Qui
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
l'installazione è guidata e semplicissima. cacci dentro il cd1 e riavvii. se hai una seconda partizione fat o nt libera, quando arrivi al partizionamento, puoi scegliere di cancellare la seconda partizione e nello spazio liberato allocare automaticamente le partizioni linux. se non hai particolari esigenze dovrebbe allocarti automaticamente una swap, una root ed una home. se vuoi installare molto software fai tu le partizioni e stai generoso con la root (una installazione media tiene 1,5 giga...). la stampante lasciala collegata ed accesa quando installi, magari la riconosce... Antonello wrote: ...
Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom]
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 17:55, syd wrote: * tom wrote: uhmm mi stai facendo venir voglia di ricompilarmi kde... ricordo che c'erano stati parecchi casini a riguardoconfermi? Io e il mas6 incontrammo alcuni problemi nella compilazione di kdebase ma poi scoprimmo che il problema risiedeva a monte, nella compilazione di Xfree. Quindi non dovresti aver nessun problema a meno di non compilare anche Xfree (in quel caso ti suggerirei un piccolo accorgimento). è ancora quasi tutto di default qui La compilazione di kde ha una sola difficolta': e' un'operazione lunga, specie se la tua cpu e' datata (io ho compilato con un celeron 700 e solo per kdebase ci son volute tre ore). ho paura!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ du -h /home/tom/documenti/trgz-dload/kde-3.1.2/ 251M/home/tom/documenti/trgz-dload/kde-3.1.2 e la cpu è un pII 463 ho sempre piu paura!! ho visto che c'è un tar.bz dalle dimensioni immani!! 147535694 lug 9 21:48 kde-i18n-3.1.2.tar.bz2 Non ho compilato kde per avere un incremento di prestazioni che d'altra parte credo siano impercettibili ma solo per conoscere un _pochino_ piu' a fondo la struttura di kde (e per la stessa ragione mi son compilata praticamente tutta la slack.. lo sai gia'). Infatti, procedendo di compilazione, acquisisci necessariamente una visione piu' approfondita della struttura del sistema in generale o comunque dei particolari pacchetti. esatto! lo faccio per capirne un po di piu in quell'altra (ricorderai sicuramente di quando su oltrelinux ti dissi dove si trovava il file rc di k6 che tu cercavi.. e k6 io non l'ho mai nemmeno visto). ricordo.anche se quel programma è ancora troppo per beta tester,troppo instabile Insomma, se vuoi smanettare e, principalmente, se ti piace smanettare.. vai di manella; in questo caso ti consiglio fortemente di scaricarti i sorgenti della slack[*]. Nelle dir di ogni pacchetto trovi gli slack.build che sono quanto di piu' istruttivo io abbia trovato in rete. gli ho dato un ochiata.hai ragione!! sono molto esplicativi giorni.. un altro di non piu' di due mesi fa, in cui io postai dei links utili e mike dei suggerimenti, aveva il subject con qualcosa del tipo -march -mcpu) spulciero un po l'archivio sen lo trovo nel hd.. Scherzi a parte.. per qualsiasi problema o chiarimento chiedi senza esitare. prima provo con qualche bel pachetto grosso.vediamo quanto tempo ci impiega..altrimenti dovro aspettare l'upgrade della macchina :( dai che alla prima occasione porto una bottiglia di canonau solo per te :P Uhhh mio caro Tom.. qui ti giochi l'onore e la credibilita'. azz sto facendo una figura pessima con il pacco x mauro-mike e verbal. devo spedire al piu presto :( Se ti scordi la bottiglia ti condannero' a restare _nel dubbio_ in eterno ;^)) la porto la porto,promesso,a costo di lasciare la boccia ai Romani !!! ma in quel caso te la dovrai vedere con loro per il recapito.sempre che rimanga indenne alle loro gole :-) cmq,come dice il saggio:nel dubbio coricati :) [*] ti servono solo gli slack.build che puoi utilizzare con qualsiasi release di kde. Per compilare la 3.1.1a io ho usato quelli con cui Volkerding ha compilato la 3.1 quindi le strutture,a meno di starvolgimenti radicali,rimangono inalterate? bueno bueno.spulcero per bene gli slackbuild -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ UCCS: ufficio complicazioni cose semplici Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 17:56, giovedì 10 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom], tom ha scritto: è ancora quasi tutto di default qui malissimo... ;P ho visto che c'è un tar.bz dalle dimensioni immani!! 147535694 lug 9 21:48 kde-i18n-3.1.2.tar.bz2 mmm non ti conveniva scaricare solo l'internazionalizzazione italiana, anzichè tutte le lingue della via lattea? giorni.. un altro di non piu' di due mesi fa, in cui io postai dei links utili e mike dei suggerimenti, aveva il subject con qualcosa del tipo -march -mcpu) spulciero un po l'archivio sen lo trovo nel hd.. te lo mando se vuoi - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DX2VF/9fksDJ4y0RAklIAJ9lP1Sui+2T/+35EmEqjJRgCYsDbQCeO8cU JZOGS3Y760IiUvdVCXQrygI= =UH+T -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
Non tutto può essere così facile. Purtroppo per i portatili è tutto diverso. Non hanno un Bios da dove partire... Quindi, niente di tutto quello che mi hai detto Antonello. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: giovedì 10 luglio 2003 16.27.18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento... l'installazione è guidata e semplicissima. cacci dentro il cd1 e riavvii. se hai una seconda partizione fat o nt libera, quando arrivi al partizionamento, puoi scegliere di cancellare la seconda partizione e nello spazio liberato allocare automaticamente le partizioni linux. se non hai particolari esigenze dovrebbe allocarti automaticamente una swap, una root ed una home. se vuoi installare molto software fai tu le partizioni e stai generoso con la root (una installazione media tiene 1,5 giga...). la stampante lasciala collegata ed accesa quando installi, magari la riconosce...Antonello wrote:. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: clicca qui Sponsor: Fenomenale!! Da oggi si naviga 7 giorni su 7 senza scatti al minuto. Scopri come... Clicca qui
Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom]
* tom wrote: ho visto che c'è un tar.bz dalle dimensioni immani!! 147535694 lug 9 21:48 kde-i18n-3.1.2.tar.bz2 Ma in quante lingue lo vuoi kde? :^) Come ti ha gia' detto mike, ti serve solo l'italiano. la porto la porto,promesso,a costo di lasciare la boccia ai Romani !!! ma in quel caso te la dovrai vedere con loro per il recapito.sempre che rimanga indenne alle loro gole :-) Non c'e' nemmeno da sperarci! Appena giri l'angolo la stappano. cmq,come dice il saggio:nel dubbio coricati :) D'accordissimo! quindi le strutture,a meno di starvolgimenti radicali,rimangono inalterate? Esatto -- syd - LU 285930 * LM 167646 -
Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom]
On Thursday 10 July 2003 14:52, miKe wrote: ho visto che c'è un tar.bz dalle dimensioni immani!! 147535694 lug 9 21:48 kde-i18n-3.1.2.tar.bz2 mmm non ti conveniva scaricare solo l'internazionalizzazione italiana, anzichè tutte le lingue della via lattea? è che sono curioso di vedere come è la lingua su alfa-centauri del tipo -march -mcpu) spulciero un po l'archivio sen lo trovo nel hd.. te lo mando se vuoi se non ti mangia troppa banda,volentieri. tnx -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ Cellacchiotto! Hai cannato i links (La risposta del MaSix a un post su SlackIt.org 11/04/03) Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom]
On Thursday 10 July 2003 17:08, syd wrote: * tom wrote: ho visto che c'è un tar.bz dalle dimensioni immani!! 147535694 lug 9 21:48 kde-i18n-3.1.2.tar.bz2 Ma in quante lingue lo vuoi kde? :^) Come ti ha gia' detto mike, ti serve solo l'italiano. opsss ho messo a scaricare e poi sono uscito il bello è che ho scaricato singolarmente anche la lingua IT cmq meglio cosidi conseguenza il malloppo piu grosso sarà kde-base? la porto la porto,promesso,a costo di lasciare la boccia ai Romani !!! ma in quel caso te la dovrai vedere con loro per il recapito.sempre che rimanga indenne alle loro gole :-) Non c'e' nemmeno da sperarci! Appena giri l'angolo la stappano. l'ho detto io!!! un anello nel collo,come si fa con i cormorani! -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ Dialetto di Velletri: Chi arizza 'o cuglio perde 'o posto Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
Alle 18:42, giovedì 10 luglio 2003, Antonello ha scritto: Il portatile non ha un Bios da cui partire... Quindi nulla di quanto detto sotto!! Antonello. questo puoi scriverlo un sola volta... Dubito che i portatili non abbiano bios, comunque forse non c'è bisogno che entri nel bios, nel bootsplash iniziale da qualche parte c'è scritto che con un tasto Fx puoi cambiare l'ordine del boot in quella sessione, quindi setti cdrom, metti fisicamenmte il cdrom1 mdk e lavori con diskdrake... ciao
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
Ciao, Guarda che i portatili hanno il bios, altrimenti come farebbero a riconoscere l'hard disk e le altre periferiche all'avvio? Appena accendi il portatile guarda se in basso a sinistra (col mio portatile asus) indica il tasto da premere per entrare nella configurazione, controlla che come primo drive di avvio ci sia il lettore cd-rom, salvi riavvii e il gioco è fatto. Spero di esserti stato di aiuto, in caso fammi sapere. Tiziano. Il gio, 2003-07-10 alle 18:42, Antonello ha scritto: Il portatile non ha un Bios da cui partire... Quindi nulla di quanto detto sotto!! Antonello. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: giovedì 10 luglio 2003 16.27.18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento... l'installazione è guidata e semplicissima. cacci dentro il cd1 e riavvii. se hai una seconda partizione fat o nt libera, quando arrivi al partizionamento, puoi scegliere di cancellare la seconda partizione e nello spazio liberato allocare automaticamente le partizioni linux. se non hai particolari esigenze dovrebbe allocarti automaticamente una swap, una root ed una home. se vuoi installare molto software fai tu le partizioni e stai generoso con la root (una installazione media tiene 1,5 giga...). la stampante lasciala collegata ed accesa quando installi, magari la riconosce... Antonello wrote: . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: clicca qui Sponsor: Alimentazione biologica, fanghi di Guam, aloe vera, prodotti di bellezza Erbolario. Dove? Clicca qui
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
- Original Message - From: Germano 3)Scarichi un .src.rpm allora dai rpm --rebuild dopodichè ti dovresti trovare un binario in /usr/src/RPM*/* (insomma lì dentro) e ti riconduci al punto 2 Detto questo è preferibile il punto 2, casomai 3 (se hai esigenze di ottimizzazione) al 1 se proprio non hai trovato i primi 2. Scusa se mi intrometto può essere il caso di Cpu Athlon? Bye Alessandro
Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 23:11, giovedì 10 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] ricompilo kde? era: [cdrom], tom ha scritto: te lo mando se vuoi se non ti mangia troppa banda,volentieri. sunto del sunto: Alle 15:11, mercoledì 14 maggio 2003, in merito a [linux] Compilare ottimizzazioni, Michele ha scritto: no? -mcpu, ecc. ecc.) come si fa, visto che per compilare uso il comando make e non direttamente gcc? esempio: export LDFLAGS=-z combreloc export CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer export CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS *** Alle 21:07, giovedì 15 maggio 2003, in merito a Re: [linux] Compilare ottimizzazioni, syd ha scritto: Comunque, ipotizziamo di dover compilare il sorgente di kdenetwork: CFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium3 \ CXXFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium3 \ ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde i686-slackware-linux \ --disable-debug già che ci siamo.. --enable-final --enable-fast-malloc=full oltre al flag -z combreloc detto nell'altro post in pratica, il primo post si riferiva a opzioni che puoi inserire direttamente in profile, per averle in via definitiva le ultime sono da usare per kde in modo da avere eseguibili più leggeri negli archivi di questa lista, trovi un post per la ricompilazione completa di kde (era il 2,x mi pare..) come sempre , se non lo trovi te lo mando di nuovo tnx - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Ded3F/9fksDJ4y0RAh7pAKC6p0Oj2+4yd4DRGGu/DSqji0F1FACgruqg /IHoqmIJODv9Y3ZtrpB+i1I= =yGTi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] speed touch 330
io uso lo Speed Touch USB dell' Alcatel, il cosidetto manta fornito dalla telecom, la procedura usata è quella da te descritta, solo che devi scaricare i driver dal sito dell'alcatel. per comodità ti spedisco quelli che ho scaricato io, nella cartella cè un file chiamato mgmt.o. lo devi copiare in /usr/share/speedtouch, all'interno dovresti vederci anche lo script speedtouch una volta fatto questo puoi provare con #net_monitor oppure con #modem_run -m -f /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o questo attiva il monitor, e poi #pppd call adsl questo ti connette in Internet in questo modo riesco a connettermi anche meglio di come mi connettevo in windows, purtroppo più di questo non saprei dirti, sono newbie anche io :-)) ciao, piter. °*-- Messaggio originale -- °*Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:57:12 +0200 (ora legale Europa occidentale) °*From: Carlo Libetucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] °*To: Newbie-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] °*Subject: Re: [newbie-it] speed touch 330 °*Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] °* °* °*sono spiacente di non poter fornire ulteriori informazioni per il °*corretto funzionamento dell'alcatel usb. °*Anch'io non sono più riuscito a farlo funzionare dopo le prime connessioni °*dopo averlo configurato nel modo seguente: °*Da centro di controllo Mandrake 9.1 °*su Rete e Internet DrakConnect... Assistente °*Usa riconscimento automatico -avanti °*connessione ADSL - rilevato - Avanti °*spunto Alcatel speedtouch usb - detected - avanti °*Immetto i dati relativi richiesti - avanti °*Provo connessione adesso - si - avanti °*si è connesso e le successive connessioni con il comando °*da shell: # net_monitor °* °*ma gia' da tempo non ne vuol piu' sapere e mi da questo errore: °*Glib-CRITICAL **: file gmain.c: line 500 (g_source_remove): assertion 'tag °* °*0' failed. °*SIOCDELRT: No such process °*starting ADSL connection: [FALLITO] °* °*Se qualcuno vorra' o potra' darci una mano °*grazie e saluti a tutti °*carlo °* °*Allegato: IMSTP.gif °* mgmt.zip Description: Zip compressed data
Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 18:16, giovedì 10 luglio 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Mi presento..., Antonello ha scritto: Non tutto può essere così facile. Purtroppo per i portatili è tutto diverso Non hanno un Bios da dove partire... beh beh beh Quindi, niente di tutto quello che mi hai detto prima di dire cose del genere... una letta al manuale del portatile, o a un pdf preso sul sito di asus, (che è pure fatto bene..) poi, in ogni caso, come avrebbero fatto a installare il sistema col quale hanno venduto il pc? Antonello. - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DerlF/9fksDJ4y0RAhVQAKCNWd/dZ0uPrQxxuhwDC2bCaEOmiACdFeJi R1+hpeAESM8M6nSbJ7vNC2s= =EGXw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
Close out of everything else first, in case it causes a crash, but then type cdrecord --checkdrive dev=0,0,0 at the command line and report back. eric On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:51:32 -0400 Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 23:40, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE, show some prove for your statements. I'll have to get back to you as I don't have all of my info bookmarked and/or easily available. It's hard to provide an URL for a paragraph in a book. You can take that statement however you like, but I'd prefer you took it as I meant it. Brant, We of the facts and figures would like for it to be that way, but they can't win by doing that, since the evidence is not on their side. Therefore they will not take it like you mean it, and will run away from the core arguments. Some URL like that maybe? Not some racists book... Are you kidding me? How can you apply logic so well when it comes to computers but totally fail when it comes to the real world? Are you implying that every single individual that has been associated with Lott's publisher is by that mere association a racist? Brant, he doesn't know who John R Lott is. In fact none of them on the wrong side of the issue do, and none of them are studied on the subject. (which is why they are on the wrong side of the issue to begin with.) He has John R. Lott confused with Senator Trent Lott in the Congress of the United States, who recently had a run-in with the black caucus over a poorly worded statement at a party, and was subsequently dubbed a racist. John R. Lott has never had any such similar circumstances even remotely associated with him. You see, there's not a clue to be found here. If there was, and if they were educated enough, they would realize that Lott was an example set as a trap for them; as was Tammy Bruce. Both traps worked out excellently, btw. In the case of John R. Lott, he is a former leftist that set out to prove that firearms were a danger to the populace. His intent was to find facts, figures and statistics that would finally, once and for all, put to the sword the idea of the right to own firearms and the relevance of that to survival and self defense. Instead, he found by examination of the actual data that the opposite was true: the Bill of Rights was vindicated by the data, as were the guns rights advocates. What the guns rights advocates had been saying all along was right. And that is what he discovered. Being an honest man, he changed his stance and printed the truth. So their ideology is damned by one of their own. Now he stands accused by the ignorant as a racist, by those who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about or even *who* they are supposed to be talking about. I fully expected them to fall into the trap of accusing John of being a right winger; the racist stuff was merely an extra bonus. The reason why these dogs get outlawed here is exactly the same as why guns are restricted: _look_ at them. I don't want those fucked up people who own a Pit Bull have one. As I don't want those brain-dead alcoholic gun-crazy redneck to have one. You totally missed the point. I apologize for not making it clearer. No need to apologize, the point is being danced around because your demonstration of the failure of their reasoning is close at hand. To me it looks to be merely a delaying tactic on their part. The point was--you don't mess with a Pit Bull because it's obvious the dog is quite capable of hurting you if you try to hurt it. It is the same with humans. You don't want to mess with a human that is obviously capable of hurting you if you try to hurt them. My description of criminals being cowards, but not stupid, reflects that fact. When given the choice between attacking a little old lady with a thousand dollars in her purse and a very large football player with a thousand dollars in his pocket which do you think would be the more likely target? What if you now gave that old lady a gun, taught her how to use it, and informed that same attacker that she had a gun and knew how to use it? Now which one would be the more likely target? I think, and I'm sure you'll disagree, but I think that this is coming very close to a lose-lose situation for our attacker. Let's sweeten the deal. The old lady has $10,000. Still not looking good for the attacker. Excellent essay. Only a complete idiot wouldn't get what I'm saying at this point. Very good point. Watch too much TV lately? Wow. What did that have to do with anything I said? b. Was a delaying tactic. Throwing you off the trail. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Kudos to you. :) --LX -- Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Linux Mandrake 9.1 Enlightenment-0.16.5-12mdk Evolution 1.2.4-1.1mdk Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
Joe; Let's try this one again. I'm going to reply to your garbage all in one email so that you can understand the whole picture without having to run to some bullsh$t statistic info. And just for you, I'll try to keep the words small, so that even you can understand. While I agree that you can have an opinion about war even if you don't have the guts to stand on your convictions and put it on the line for something you believe in, I'm also pretty sure that being involved in an actual shooting war would give you a distinctly different perspective. I'm also sure that when the fighting stopped, you'd be the first person to crawl out of your hidey-hole with an entirely new perspective. It's very easy to have an opinion when you stand on the sidelines, but try to stick to your convictions when you're hip deep in the fight of your life. Next; Please make up your mind. First you insult Frankie because in Australia things are not the way you think they should be? Then it's off to the U.S for the same thing? Now you have this bullshit notion of how things are in Canada? PUh-Lease! Send me your fax number, and I'll be happy to drown you in statistical data from the RCMP, and the O.P.P. which clearly demonstrates that you're looking at the wrong info. Are you looking at gun-related crimes on a per-capita basis? Are you looking at the budget increases to most major police forces in Canada where they increase their budgets on violent crimes, and extended firearms training? Do you know anyone on a legitimate Police Force (that hasn't tried to put handcuffs on you, that is), that can give you the real facts? One of my best friends works for the Vancouver Police in forensics and the data he has is completely different from the drivel you've been spouting. Load that fax machine up with paper, Pal. You'll need it. Then come back to this list. Or do the real facts scare you? Are you afraid of the truth? Idealism is a great thing, but it must be balanced with reality. Give it a try some time. You'd like to see everyone disarmed, right? Get in line! But since reality seems to indicate that this will not happen in our lifetime, then it does make sense to be able to defend yourself with equal force. At least that way you have a chance. Think about the fact that the government doesn't want you to own an unlicensed/unregistered firearm, and the fines that go with it. Then ask yourself why the criminals who get caught with guns almost never get any serious prison time for breaking that law. Kind of strange don't you think? Since you feel so strongly about it, why don't you do something about it? I'm sure that you could start a petition, or contact your MLA or something? I admit that most people who legally own firearms should be made to take some serious training in crisis situations, and how to hang onto their weapons, and maybe they should be held responsible ( at least in part ) for any crimes in which their stolen weapons are used, but how are you going to get our government to take something like that seriously? In other words, what's your solution? Do you have one, or are you just satisfied with sitting on the fence and pronouncing judgement? Must be awful safe up there, eh? I think that the fence you're sitting on is a little too high, and the air must be pretty thin up there. Other people on this list have provided facts, and web-sites that prove your theory to be completely wrong, but I don't see you replying to them. Their information holds at least as much truth as yours. Or are you so arrogant that you refuse to see that fact, or to give them the benefit of the doubt? Why would anyone want to believe anything you say if you're not prepared to even try to believe them? Guess the air is getting thinner upon that fence, HM? Now let's look at the stats Joe. Canada has about 10 percent of the population that the US has. Or did you forget that little fact? Therefore it makes sense that things like this would happen more often in the States than in Canada, right? At least 10 times more often wouldn't you think? That's a real easy leap of logic Joe, so I'm sure you can follow along with the rest of us. We have a better system of gun control here, but even so it's not your version, so it's not great, right? Did you also know that the amount of instances where kids in Canada are bringing guns to school is also on the increase? Even in Toronto they're installing metal detectors. Think they'd be spending the cash if there wasn't a real possibility of it happening? And yes, that one incident was about 15 years ago here in Montreal, but it's not the first and not the last. I see you've been rather selective about those items you've responded to. Afraid to concede the ones you didn't reply to? Didn't hear a peep out of you about the motorcycle gangs here in Montreal, or the gang wars in Vancouver, and you've artfully dodged points that others on the list have posted in
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On 7/10/2003 at 2:07 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Let's sweeten the deal. The old lady has $10,000. Still not looking good for the attacker. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Hey! If she's got 10 grand ( by the way, is that in U.S. dollars?), I say lose the gun, and marry her! You get the money without a gun, or a possible conviction, and you get to give her a few years of happiness to boot! What's not to like? Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 02:41:39 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: big snip of bunch of bullshit whatever. I tried to keep this on the OT list, but I guess some are too thick to get the hint. you wasted all that typing on me, to make it simple for me? I'm touched. Best Regards, Fuck you... End it. snip more insipient garble -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 02:48:06 up 15 days, 8:29, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.68, 0.74 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should be on the server. I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ Jetzt ein- oder umsteigen und USB-Speicheruhr als Prämie sichern! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Bastille firewall [was: Re: [newbie] No connection via Linux]
g I can teach you something? Never! Right - a community owned and edited web. Ours is at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome You need to sign up as a user to gain editing rights. There are only a few formatting commands that you need to use, and you can get them by studying an existing entry. When you add or amend you copy and paste your signature as it appears at the bottom of the edit page. Anyone can edit or amend, but usually only do so if they have additional info. All changes are tracked. Easy!! Anne On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 4:36 am, Lanman wrote: Hey Anne; Long time no hear! UM, what's a Twiki? And where is it? Take Care! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/10/2003 at 4:22 AM Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 7:25 pm, Lanman wrote: For those needing a work-around for bastille-firewall, I just wanted to update you. I'm beginning to sound like a stuck record - when you've finished, will you put it on the TWiki, please? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Plug-in Not Working
On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 10:28 pm, David Middlebrook wrote: I have recently installed my first Linux system, chose Mandrake 9.1 and am trying to convert from Windows. I have been using Mozilla as my Web Browser but have been running into problems when I get to a site that needs a plug-in like Real Player. Have looked at the About Plug-ins in the Mozilla Help and it shows this: MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes What is required to get it to work? Thanks in advance. David Well you need to install RealPlayer. If you have the Powerpack CD the RealPlayer RPM is on your commercial CD alternatively it is available for download from Mandrake Club. You can also find an RPM from Texstars download site at ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms There are two packages RealPlayer8 for the player itself and mozilla-realplayer for the plugin. Tip: an easy way to install from an online source like Texstar is this. In your browser go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Follow the instructions to define online 'urpmi' sources for 'contrib', 'plf' and 'texstar'. It will tell you the commands to paste into a root terminal to get the packages from those locations appearing in your Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareInstall GUI. You can then use the Mandrake Software Manager to install RealPlayer and hundreds of other online applications in addition to the packages on your CDs. (Note: the plf sources can be pretty slow. I find the 'club-internet' source to be the best.) Tip: The commands have to pasted into a 'root' terminal. To get a root terminal open a normal terminal window and type suenter you will be prompted for a password enter the root password. You are now operating as root user. Tip: To copy/paste in Linux highlight text with your mouse and press mouse wheel/centre button to paste. Once the RealPlayer RPM is installed restart Mozilla and you will be able to use the plugin. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror doesn't start
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:40:14 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Any hints? try running Konqueror from a terminal and post the output. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 03:53:56 up 15 days, 9:35, 4 users, load average: 0.11, 0.12, 0.05 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:43:08 +0200 (MEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? When you upgraded to 9.1, did you make sure to install all of the same packages? (I'm assuming you did an upgrade as opposed to a clean install). Try urpmi --updates --auto-select if this doesn't work, make sure that all of your package sources are pointing to 9.1 sources and not 9.0. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 03:47:38 up 15 days, 9:28, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
Your fstab and lilo.conf files look fine to me. My guess would be a hardware problem. I see the CD-RW is the only device on the secondary IDE interface. Do you have the 'master' jumper correctly set on the back of the CD drive? Or perhaps you have it set to 'Cable Select'? (Linux does not work well with cable select) (Obviously the drive is 'capable' of working since I assume you installed Mandrake using it.) HTH derek On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 5:51 am, Michael wrote: been working with few people offlist to try to get my cd-rw drive to work, but i thought i'd post it back to the list to try to see if anyone else has ideas. cd-rw drive was origonally a supermount, it's been changed to automount. we've modified fstab. i've tried kiwkdisc. none of it matters, because when i go to access a cd in my drive, after about 30 seconds, the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard start flashing and the computer completely locks up. the only way to get out of it is to hit the restart button on the case. i've had more hard crashes in trying to get this working than i can count at this point. so far i've even gotten an error from Noatun media player (which was running during one hard crash) that it had a crash (but didn't tell me what it was) and even got an error earlier that KDE had some type of crash (didn't say why, just said it had a crash). so obviously things are NOT working right over here. keep in mind to anyone that can help, i'm a SUPER NEWBIE, so saying just change this to this has to be a little bit more specific, if you know what i mean (it's my first timerunning command lines, that is!). when it comes to computers i'm a very slow learner, the harder i try the worse it gets. my cd drive is listed as compatible hardwarebecause i know that was going to be the first question anyone asked. hardware: Asus KV7-RM, AMD 950, 768mb ram, 20g MDT and 100g MDT hard drives, Nvidia video card, soundblaster 16PCI sound card, sony floppy drive, Phillips CD-RW driveso it's all modern hardware, nothing ancient, except maybe the floppy drive, which i know is probably 5 years old. running Mandrake 9.1 also running windows 98, and the cd drive is fully functional over there here's my fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,sync,unhide,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nod ev 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_e vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb7 /mnt/win_f vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb8 /mnt/win_g vfat defaults 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb9 swap swap defaults 0 0 here's my lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only other=/dev/hda1 label=windows table=/dev/hda other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-0.22mdk label=2421-22 root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.22mdk.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 read-only I know a lot of this is trial and error, but i'm praying someone can hit the nail on the head and get this one on the first try. i'm starting to get a little worried here because i've had so many hard crashes it's not even funny anymore. we also tried installing a new kernel kernel-2.4.21.0.22mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and that didn't work. btw, anyone have any idea how much damage i could've done to the system so far with all the hard crashes i've had? thanks to anyone that can help! Mike -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
Some trap loseryour inability to string together a single thought is frightening. John R. Lott of the American Enterprise Institute. That's a real lefty org. Get your head out of your ass. I'm well aware of his good works as a neo fascist. John R. Lott, Jr. teaches criminal deterrence and law and economics at the University of Chicago Law School, where he is the John M. Olin Visiting Law and Economics Fellow. He was the chief economist at the United States Sentencing Commission during 1988 and 1989. He has published over 70 articles in academic journals. Yeah he's a lefty all right, law and order and big money...you are an absolute idiot. I'm amazed that you're allowed to operate a motor vehicle. If he were any more right he'd have to wear a swastika by law. You aren't allowed to drive are you? MRW - Original Message - From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 23:40, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE, show some prove for your statements. I'll have to get back to you as I don't have all of my info bookmarked and/or easily available. It's hard to provide an URL for a paragraph in a book. You can take that statement however you like, but I'd prefer you took it as I meant it. Brant, We of the facts and figures would like for it to be that way, but they can't win by doing that, since the evidence is not on their side. Therefore they will not take it like you mean it, and will run away from the core arguments. Some URL like that maybe? Not some racists book... Are you kidding me? How can you apply logic so well when it comes to computers but totally fail when it comes to the real world? Are you implying that every single individual that has been associated with Lott's publisher is by that mere association a racist? Brant, he doesn't know who John R Lott is. In fact none of them on the wrong side of the issue do, and none of them are studied on the subject. (which is why they are on the wrong side of the issue to begin with.) He has John R. Lott confused with Senator Trent Lott in the Congress of the United States, who recently had a run-in with the black caucus over a poorly worded statement at a party, and was subsequently dubbed a racist. John R. Lott has never had any such similar circumstances even remotely associated with him. You see, there's not a clue to be found here. If there was, and if they were educated enough, they would realize that Lott was an example set as a trap for them; as was Tammy Bruce. Both traps worked out excellently, btw. In the case of John R. Lott, he is a former leftist that set out to prove that firearms were a danger to the populace. His intent was to find facts, figures and statistics that would finally, once and for all, put to the sword the idea of the right to own firearms and the relevance of that to survival and self defense. Instead, he found by examination of the actual data that the opposite was true: the Bill of Rights was vindicated by the data, as were the guns rights advocates. What the guns rights advocates had been saying all along was right. And that is what he discovered. Being an honest man, he changed his stance and printed the truth. So their ideology is damned by one of their own. Now he stands accused by the ignorant as a racist, by those who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about or even *who* they are supposed to be talking about. I fully expected them to fall into the trap of accusing John of being a right winger; the racist stuff was merely an extra bonus. The reason why these dogs get outlawed here is exactly the same as why guns are restricted: _look_ at them. I don't want those fucked up people who own a Pit Bull have one. As I don't want those brain-dead alcoholic gun-crazy redneck to have one. You totally missed the point. I apologize for not making it clearer. No need to apologize, the point is being danced around because your demonstration of the failure of their reasoning is close at hand. To me it looks to be merely a delaying tactic on their part. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake Install Probs on old Compaq
Gots me here a Compaq (shudder) Pentium 200, no CD. So I mosey on over and get a network install disk and it works up to the point where it detects the NIC, fine, asks for DHCP, yup, loads the LAN info fine, ie. gateway, DNS, get's an IP, etc. Then when it comes to bringing up interface, it signal 11s, install exited abnormally (duh). the logs show the successful loading of the NIC drivers, etc., then receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling workaround. it goes through some checks, passes all, then says: receiver lock-up workaround activated. then nada. This is with an Intel Etherexpress Pro/100b NIC. With the 3Com 100BaseTX (Cyclone), go through the same process, only the kernel messages are different, it signal 11s right after: scatter/gather enabled. h/w ckecksums enabled are both NICs just no good, or is there something else I can eliminate first? I replaced the cable, just to be sure. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 03:31:26 up 15 days, 9:12, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.03, 0.02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
When you upgraded to 9.1 did you delete your old 9.0 update source? That would explain why you had trouble with libraries. You can remove your old source with the source manager GUI in Mandrake control Centre, and you can select a new 9.1 source from http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Add a source for contrib and plf while you are there:- derek On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should be on the server. I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI error
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:45, Damian Gatabria wrote: El mi? 09-07-2003 a las 18:40, Curt Tresenriter escribió: Every time I use urpmi lately I get: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument Can someone tell me why? Curt does you cdrom tray get to open? Only when I do it manually. i get it too, but only when my cdrom (which is SOOO crappy and old) fails to open the tray. Damian __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Registered Linux User #299730 Registered Machine #204611 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newbie needs install/checksum help
A quick google search turned up this http://www.irnis.net/soft/acsv/ among others On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 20:35, R. L. Moore wrote: Where do I get checksum software and how do I use it on a windows machine? I have got both 8.2 and 9.1 ISO's disks1-3 burned onto cd's. I can't get either installed. On either of two machines where 7.2 were running before. I cheched the hardware list for both version and am in complience. with both. 9.1 installs and setsup KDE. Then when it goes to and initailization screen and hang there with my harddrives working indicator lights on. I've left it there once overnight and still it did not come up. With ver 8.2 I can't get past the first CD. I put the second one in and the CD light comes on but not harddrive activety afterwards. Some time I can move the mouse but most times it just freezes and won't even let me press enter to get it going. I have even written zeros to harddrive before try to install each version and always get same results on two different machines both Pll's w/ 128 RAM. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Registered Linux User #299730 Registered Machine #204611 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Plug-in Not Working
Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 10:28 pm, David Middlebrook wrote: I have recently installed my first Linux system, chose Mandrake 9.1 and am trying to convert from Windows. I have been using Mozilla as my Web Browser but have been running into problems when I get to a site that needs a plug-in like Real Player. Have looked at the About Plug-ins in the Mozilla Help and it shows this: MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes What is required to get it to work? Thanks in advance. David Well you need to install RealPlayer. If you have the Powerpack CD the RealPlayer RPM is on your commercial CD alternatively it is available for download from Mandrake Club. You can also find an RPM from Texstars download site at ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms There are two packages RealPlayer8 for the player itself and mozilla-realplayer for the plugin. Tip: an easy way to install from an online source like Texstar is this. In your browser go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Follow the instructions to define online 'urpmi' sources for 'contrib', 'plf' and 'texstar'. It will tell you the commands to paste into a root terminal to get the packages from those locations appearing in your Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareInstall GUI. You can then use the Mandrake Software Manager to install RealPlayer and hundreds of other online applications in addition to the packages on your CDs. (Note: the plf sources can be pretty slow. I find the 'club-internet' source to be the best.) Tip: The commands have to pasted into a 'root' terminal. To get a root terminal open a normal terminal window and type suenter you will be prompted for a password enter the root password. You are now operating as root user. Tip: To copy/paste in Linux highlight text with your mouse and press mouse wheel/centre button to paste. Once the RealPlayer RPM is installed restart Mozilla and you will be able to use the plugin. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have looked in directories and it looks like the required files are already loaded in file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8 the following files and directories are listed: file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Codecs file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Common file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Help file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Plugins file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/app.kdelnk file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/audiosig.rm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/firstrun.rm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/LICENSE file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Mailcap file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/mimeinstall.sh file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/mime.kdelnk file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Mime.types file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/pluginstall.sh file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/raclass.zip file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/README file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay.desktop file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7doc.png file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7doc.xpm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7mini.xpm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7.xpm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rpnp.so So what actions do I need to perform to install this as an application that will start if I click on a *.ram file, and get the plugins registered to the browser? Cheers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Plug-in Not Working
On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 10:46 am, David Middlebrook wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 10:28 pm, David Middlebrook wrote: I have recently installed my first Linux system, chose Mandrake 9.1 and am trying to convert from Windows. I have been using Mozilla as my Web Browser but have been running into problems when I get to a site that needs a plug-in like Real Player. Have looked at the About Plug-ins in the Mozilla Help and it shows this: MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafilerpm Yes What is required to get it to work? Thanks in advance. David Well you need to install RealPlayer. If you have the Powerpack CD the RealPlayer RPM is on your commercial CD alternatively it is available for download from Mandrake Club. You can also find an RPM from Texstars download site at ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/9.1 /rpms There are two packages RealPlayer8 for the player itself and mozilla-realplayer for the plugin. Tip: an easy way to install from an online source like Texstar is this. In your browser go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Follow the instructions to define online 'urpmi' sources for 'contrib', 'plf' and 'texstar'. It will tell you the commands to paste into a root terminal to get the packages from those locations appearing in your Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareInstall GUI. You can then use the Mandrake Software Manager to install RealPlayer and hundreds of other online applications in addition to the packages on your CDs. (Note: the plf sources can be pretty slow. I find the 'club-internet' source to be the best.) Tip: The commands have to pasted into a 'root' terminal. To get a root terminal open a normal terminal window and type suenter you will be prompted for a password enter the root password. You are now operating as root user. Tip: To copy/paste in Linux highlight text with your mouse and press mouse wheel/centre button to paste. Once the RealPlayer RPM is installed restart Mozilla and you will be able to use the plugin. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I have looked in directories and it looks like the required files are already loaded in file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8 the following files and directories are listed: file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Codecs file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Common file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Help file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Plugins file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/app.kdelnk file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/audiosig.rm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/firstrun.rm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/LICENSE file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Mailcap file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/mimeinstall.sh file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/mime.kdelnk file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/Mime.types file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/pluginstall.sh file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/raclass.zip file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/README file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/realplay.desktop file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7doc.png file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7doc.xpm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7mini.xpm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rp7.xpm file:/usr/lib/RealPlayer8/rpnp.so So what actions do I need to perform to install this as an application that will start if I click on a *.ram file, and get the plugins registered to the browser? Cheers You need to move rpnp.so into your Mozilla plugin directory which should be /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3.1/plugins (if you use a different version of mozilla it may be slightly different.) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
I also recomend throwing disk 1 in the CD-ROM before you urpmi anything. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:27:57 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you upgraded to 9.1 did you delete your old 9.0 update source? That would explain why you had trouble with libraries. You can remove your old source with the source manager GUI in Mandrake control Centre, and you can select a new 9.1 source from http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Add a source for contrib and plf while you are there:- derek On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should be on the server. I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
Once the sources are sorted out the first thing you should update is urpmi itself. From the command line urpmi urpmi or use the Software install GUI. derek On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 11:12 am, Michael Adams wrote: I also recomend throwing disk 1 in the CD-ROM before you urpmi anything. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:27:57 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you upgraded to 9.1 did you delete your old 9.0 update source? That would explain why you had trouble with libraries. You can remove your old source with the source manager GUI in Mandrake control Centre, and you can select a new 9.1 source from http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Add a source for contrib and plf while you are there:- derek On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should be on the server. I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI error
El jue, 10-07-2003 a las 05:47, Curt Tresenriter escribió: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:45, Damian Gatabria wrote: El mi? 09-07-2003 a las 18:40, Curt Tresenriter escribió: Every time I use urpmi lately I get: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument Can someone tell me why? Curt does you cdrom tray get to open? Only when I do it manually. Right... so urpmi is trying to open your cd tray but it's not being successful, maybe your cdrom does not support opening the tray by software?... try executing this: eject /dev/??? (what's your cdrom device?) and see if you get the same error. Also, did you change any settings (i.e. SCSI emulation) from the moment you installed mandrake? Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
El jue, 10-07-2003 a las 01:51, Michael escribió: been working with few people offlist to try to get my cd-rw drive to work, but i thought i'd post it back to the list to try to see if anyone else has ideas. cd-rw drive was origonally a supermount, it's been changed to automount. we've modified fstab. i've tried kiwkdisc. none of it matters, because when i go to access a cd in my drive, after about 30 seconds, the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard start flashing and the computer completely locks up. the only way to get out of it is to hit the restart button on the case. i've had more hard crashes in trying to get this working than i can count at this point. so far i've even gotten an error from Noatun media player (which was running during one hard crash) that it had a crash (but didn't tell me what it was) and even got an error earlier that KDE had some type of crash (didn't say why, just said it had a crash). so obviously things are NOT working right over here. keep in mind to anyone that can help, i'm a SUPER NEWBIE, so saying just change this to this has to be a little bit more specific, if you know what i mean (it's my first timerunning command lines, that is!). when it comes to computers i'm a very slow learner, the harder i try the worse it gets. my cd drive is listed as compatible hardwarebecause i know that was going to be the first question anyone asked. In win98, are you using DMA for your CDROM? just for fun, edit your lilo.conf so the append line looks like this: append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma then, in the command line, run `lilo`, and reboot. See if it keeps crashing. HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT - SHOT ME!
Just following instructions: http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/mandrake/ unfortunately, couldn't install MS Outlook Express. Now my question: If by any chance you add an echo to your .bashrc like this: echo inside .bashrc and other in .bash_profile, echo inside .bash_profile you will get the echo from .bashrc, but never the one from .bash_profile. OK, following someone's comment from the UNABLE TO UPDATE THE PATH VARIABLE I copied .bash_profile into .bashrc 'cause one is executed when login in and the other every time a term is open. Well, you will get a nice crash in your account not being unable lo loggin in anymore. Does anybody understand why this happen? Besides, does anybody know a good place to learn the insides of the bash shell? Thanks, Rosario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:33, JoeHill wrote: On 10 Jul 2003 14:52:42 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: are at least 50-80 ft... but once you *get* the Koala, I've heard they are a hot property, IYKWIM. They're too furry and very hard to shave. I don't like fur, and they're impatient when you start spreading on the shaving gel. -- Thu Jul 10 22:30:00 EST 2003 22:30:00 up 4 days, 2 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * History repeats itself -- the first time as a tragi-comedy, the second time as bedroom farce. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 01:35, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:05:00 -0600 Wade Waldron [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers. That's what Mandrake Control Center does...if it didn't load them when you booted, that is. yea, but Joe, (I guess you are reading to quickly) he said while bypassing the Mandrake configuration utility kinda like, I want to ride the bike, but I don't want to touch the pedals and I don't know how to balance. where is the bike stored? Run harddrake as root. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPC Install
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:58, Mike yomcat Welsh wrote: I want to know how to partition my drive while retaining all my current data without losing anything. Auto allocate gives me an error about no RAM disk or something like that. I got 384MB RAM. About the single root partition, are you saying that I can run it off my Mac partition somehow? Last time, I partitioned the drive but lost all my info. The idea is NOT to use ONE partition. One partition is for the MacOS You have actually three partitions (if not more) So you're going to need a /boot partition and at least a / partition (aside from the partition where your MacOS lives) There's information about the PPC installation on the Mandrake site, and there used to be a few PPC users in here, but they're elsewhere now, or just playing invisible... -- Thu Jul 10 22:30:00 EST 2003 22:30:00 up 4 days, 2 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * History repeats itself -- the first time as a tragi-comedy, the second time as bedroom farce. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror doesn't start
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using Mandrake 9.1. When I start Konqueror I get an error message that Konqueror crashed and was killed and I'm asked if I want to send an error report. No, I don't want. I cancel this window and try to start Konqueror again but it doesn't start (no message now). It worked after upgrading to 9.1. With Netscape I know I can delete lockfiles and things like that. But I have no idea what I could try with Konqueror. Any hints? In the /tmp directory, you should have some directories like /tmp/kde-yournamehere - you can login as root, delete those directories, then logoff and login as yourself again - THEN try to fire up Konq - you SHOULD be able to; see how that goes, mate. -- Thu Jul 10 22:35:00 EST 2003 22:35:00 up 4 days, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, The Berserker Wars Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Bastille firewall [was: Re: [newbie] No connection via Linux]
You've already taught me things in the past Anne. I've found many of your psts to be very informative. This is just another installment we can add to that list. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/10/2003 at 8:45 AM Anne Wilson wrote: g I can teach you something? Never! Right - a community owned and edited web. Ours is at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome You need to sign up as a user to gain editing rights. There are only a few formatting commands that you need to use, and you can get them by studying an existing entry. When you add or amend you copy and paste your signature as it appears at the bottom of the edit page. Anyone can edit or amend, but usually only do so if they have additional info. All changes are tracked. Easy!! Anne On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 4:36 am, Lanman wrote: Hey Anne; Long time no hear! UM, what's a Twiki? And where is it? Take Care! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/10/2003 at 4:22 AM Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 7:25 pm, Lanman wrote: For those needing a work-around for bastille-firewall, I just wanted to update you. I'm beginning to sound like a stuck record - when you've finished, will you put it on the TWiki, please? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] glibc file is bad on Install CD1, need help to replacethe disk.
Kenneth E. Spress wrote: Hi There, I saw you said you live in Chicago area. Let me ask why the 28.8 phone modem? any particular reason why maybe I can help you Hello Kenneth, I live in Champaign, IL, which is about 120 miles south of Chicago. I'm using the 28kps Winmodem because the newer 56kps Winmodem does not have Windows NT 4.0 drivers. Or if you are asking me why I'm not using a cable modem or a higher connection to the Internet, there are 2 reasons: a) I don't surf the web, but use it as a help resource when needed; and b) the expense is not justified for the 15 hours or less a month I access the Internet. I spend $0.03 per local access telephone call (with no charge for the length time connected), as opposed to about $30 a month for broadband access. I'm not sure I understand your statement any particular reason why maybe I can help you I addressed this post to the Newbie List realizing that those members unable to assist me would disregard the help request, and that those members who could assist would respond to me in a private email (of which one person so far has.) Regards, The Other Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Bastille firewall [was: Re: [newbie] No connection via Linux]
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 04:22, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 7:25 pm, Lanman wrote: For those needing a work-around for bastille-firewall, I just wanted to update you. I'm beginning to sound like a stuck record - when you've finished, will you put it on the TWiki, please? Anne I second that! DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI error
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 06:22, Damian Gatabria wrote: El jue, 10-07-2003 a las 05:47, Curt Tresenriter escribió: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 22:45, Damian Gatabria wrote: El mi? 09-07-2003 a las 18:40, Curt Tresenriter escribió: Every time I use urpmi lately I get: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument Can someone tell me why? Curt does you cdrom tray get to open? Only when I do it manually. Right... so urpmi is trying to open your cd tray but it's not being successful, maybe your cdrom does not support opening the tray by software?... try executing this: eject /dev/??? (what's your cdrom device?) and see if you get the same error. Also, did you change any settings (i.e. SCSI emulation) from the moment you installed mandrake? Damian Yes the error is the same. The only files I've edited manually were fstab to recognize my Win disk, and urpmi sources. Other than that a, number of packages were installed via both urpmi rpm -ivh Until the other day, urpmi *did* eject the cd. I can't pinpoint exactly when the behavior began - is there a log I could look at that might give a hint? Curt -- Registered Linux User #299730 Registered Machine #204611 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
Good for you, Carroll! re: MRW - I'm with momma :-) DougB On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote: I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with Linux that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get it. I was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made a lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close to being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web. I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political ravings by otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to periodically lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name calling that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing along with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss political matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to the kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to the local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist. Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these episodes broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and sent an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion that anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On the good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action. And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? (Nasty letter to follow.) -- cmg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
Shaving Koala's Stephen? Sure you don't want to move this to an X-Rated site? LOL! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Install Probs on old Compaq
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 18:05, JoeHill wrote: Gots me here a Compaq (shudder) Pentium 200, no CD. So I mosey on over and get a network install disk and it works up to the point where it detects the NIC, fine, asks for DHCP, yup, loads the LAN info fine, ie. gateway, DNS, get's an IP, etc. Then when it comes to bringing up interface, it signal 11s, install exited abnormally (duh). the logs show the successful loading of the NIC drivers, etc., then receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling workaround. it goes through some checks, passes all, then says: receiver lock-up workaround activated. then nada. This is with an Intel Etherexpress Pro/100b NIC. With the 3Com 100BaseTX (Cyclone), go through the same process, only the kernel messages are different, it signal 11s right after: scatter/gather enabled. h/w ckecksums enabled are both NICs just no good, or is there something else I can eliminate first? I replaced the cable, just to be sure. Have you tried slamming an IDE CDROM in it and trying the installation again? Surely you can afford to knick one outta one of your other machines for 40 minutes, ay? -- Thu Jul 10 22:40:01 EST 2003 22:40:01 up 4 days, 12 min, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, it's just a tired feeling: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
Nice reply Joe. So incisive, that I couldn't put it down. A good read ! And I see we finally agree on something. You are touched. Perhaps you should seek professional help. Glad we finally got that dealt with. What say we move on to something that's interesting, like, um, I don't know, maybe Linux? Have a nice Day! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How to install vmware 4 after kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdk update
Greetings All. I format my last one Window$ machine and installed MDK9.1, I updated all bugfix, security updates and normal updates. After that, I couldn't install my MVware 4. Did you ha ve any suggestion on how to make it. Thanks a lot, = []'s Lucio Costa Linux user #204519 We do what we can, we give what we have Our doubt is our passion and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art. ___ Yahoo! Mail Mais espaço, mais segurança e gratuito: caixa postal de 6MB, antivírus, proteção contra spam. http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should be on the server. I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? You need to update the sources - so in the Mandrake Control Center, go to Software Management = Software Sources Manager = Update - and you can update the sources; that way, when you actually try to update the system, you're getting the proper listing. You should do this every so often as the update lists change... -- Thu Jul 10 22:35:00 EST 2003 22:35:00 up 4 days, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, The Berserker Wars Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown not possible
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I want to leave Gnome (using Mandrake 9.1) I get the message if I want to log out or shutdown. Doesn't matter what I select, there is neither a shutdown nor a logout that happens. I have to do a 'shutdown -h now' from a terminal window. Strange - what if you just type reboot or poweroff - anything happen then? -- Thu Jul 10 22:35:00 EST 2003 22:35:00 up 4 days, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, The Berserker Wars Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 23:07, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 23:40, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE, show some prove for your statements. I'll have to get back to you as I don't have all of my info bookmarked and/or easily available. It's hard to provide an URL for a paragraph in a book. You can take that statement however you like, but I'd prefer you took it as I meant it. Brant, We of the facts and figures would like for it to be that way, but they can't win by doing that, since the evidence is not on their side. Therefore they will not take it like you mean it, and will run away from the core arguments. Some URL like that maybe? Not some racists book... Are you kidding me? How can you apply logic so well when it comes to computers but totally fail when it comes to the real world? Are you implying that every single individual that has been associated with Lott's publisher is by that mere association a racist? Brant, he doesn't know who John R Lott is. In fact none of them on the wrong side of the issue do, and none of them are studied on the subject. (which is why they are on the wrong side of the issue to begin with.) He has John R. Lott confused with Senator Trent Lott in the Congress of the United States, who recently had a run-in with the black caucus over a poorly worded statement at a party, and was subsequently dubbed a racist. John R. Lott has never had any such similar circumstances even remotely associated with him. You see, there's not a clue to be found here. If there was, and if they were educated enough, they would realize that Lott was an example set as a trap for them; as was Tammy Bruce. Both traps worked out excellently, btw. In the case of John R. Lott, he is a former leftist that set out to prove that firearms were a danger to the populace. His intent was to find facts, figures and statistics that would finally, once and for all, put to the sword the idea of the right to own firearms and the relevance of that to survival and self defense. Instead, he found by examination of the actual data that the opposite was true: the Bill of Rights was vindicated by the data, as were the guns rights advocates. What the guns rights advocates had been saying all along was right. And that is what he discovered. Being an honest man, he changed his stance and printed the truth. So their ideology is damned by one of their own. Now he stands accused by the ignorant as a racist, by those who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about or even *who* they are supposed to be talking about. I fully expected them to fall into the trap of accusing John of being a right winger; the racist stuff was merely an extra bonus. The reason why these dogs get outlawed here is exactly the same as why guns are restricted: _look_ at them. I don't want those fucked up people who own a Pit Bull have one. As I don't want those brain-dead alcoholic gun-crazy redneck to have one. You totally missed the point. I apologize for not making it clearer. No need to apologize, the point is being danced around because your demonstration of the failure of their reasoning is close at hand. To me it looks to be merely a delaying tactic on their part. The point was--you don't mess with a Pit Bull because it's obvious the dog is quite capable of hurting you if you try to hurt it. It is the same with humans. You don't want to mess with a human that is obviously capable of hurting you if you try to hurt them. My description of criminals being cowards, but not stupid, reflects that fact. When given the choice between attacking a little old lady with a thousand dollars in her purse and a very large football player with a thousand dollars in his pocket which do you think would be the more likely target? What if you now gave that old lady a gun, taught her how to use it, and informed that same attacker that she had a gun and knew how to use it? Now which one would be the more likely target? I think, and I'm sure you'll disagree, but I think that this is coming very close to a lose-lose situation for our attacker. Let's sweeten the deal. The old lady has $10,000. Still not looking good for the attacker. Excellent essay. Only a complete idiot wouldn't get what I'm saying at this point. Very good point. Watch too much TV lately? Wow. What did that have to do with anything I said? b. Was a delaying tactic. Throwing you off the trail. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Kudos to you. :) Most Execellant --LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
RE: [newbie] New Video Card Setup - HELP!!
Ronald, Nevermind! I spoke too soon! I had downloaded the ET file and was planning on installing it the following night. I was also thinking that the installation was complex (little did I know it was as complex as typing sh filename ... LOL). Anyway, installed it and played for about an hour last night. Runs like a dream! Linux is now one step closer to being a desktop distro - every game released with native Linux install packages will continue that direction... By the way, IIRC you mentioned you had some problems getting it to work on your son's computer. Did you ever get the ET network up?? -Original Message- From: Ronald J. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] New Video Card Setup - HELP!! On Wednesday 09 July 2003 08:45 am, Tango Echo wrote: Thanks again to all for the help and to Stephen for the vid card recommendation. Now if I can get Enemy Territory to work on Linux: one more nail the XP coffin =) What trouble are you having with ET? -- /\ DarkLord \/ __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On 10 Jul 2003 22:32:55 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're too furry and very hard to shave. I don't like fur, and they're impatient when you start spreading on the shaving gel. Don't diss fur my friend, we furry creatures are nice. /The swedish furry polarbear Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should be on the server. I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? You need to update the sources - so in the Mandrake Control Center, go to Software Management = Software Sources Manager = Update - and you can update the sources; that way, when you actually try to update the system, you're getting the proper listing. You should do this every so often as the update lists change... I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 04:10 am, Derek Jennings wrote: I see the CD-RW is the only device on the secondary IDE interface. Do you have the 'master' jumper correctly set on the back of the CD drive? Or perhaps you have it set to 'Cable Select'? (Linux does not work well with cable select) (Obviously the drive is 'capable' of working since I assume you installed Mandrake using it.) the cd drive is on master on teh secondary IDE. i could've SWORN it was before, but i actually opened up the computer the other day to make sure and it was on cable select! it's been switched back to master and we've still had all the same problems since switching it. i don't know if i would want to put it on the primary IDE cable, as i have 2 hard drives on that cable already. yup, drive sure is capable of working. i actually think it worked before too. i had installed mdk9.1 before, and i think i had used the cd drive. but then i wiped everything out when i installed a 2nd hard drive because i was having problems and formatting out seemed to be the easiest way to handle all of it. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 07:19 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: In win98, are you using DMA for your CDROM? not sure just for fun, edit your lilo.conf so the append line looks like this: append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma then, in the command line, run `lilo`, and reboot. See if it keeps crashing. just for fun? gee, thanks! i'm messing with you, btw. eric is having me run cdrecord command, check that post if you're still in this boat. thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:05, Wade Waldron wrote: I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake configuration utility. Can someone give me an idea where to start. Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers. Wade Bypassing the GUI or what? Because hardware detection is going to initiate during the bootup process, it's almost impossible. Unless you want to bypass logging into the GUI so that you can tailor the configuration prior to actually starting XWindows - but you'd have to put your system into runlevel 3 so that it starts up with all the normal multiuser services and processes; then you can start the GUI as desired? -- Thu Jul 10 22:25:00 EST 2003 22:25:00 up 3 days, 23:57, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Garbage In -- Gospel Out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to install vmware 4 after kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdkupdate
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 22:14, Lucio_Costa wrote: Greetings All. I format my last one Window$ machine and installed MDK9.1, I updated all bugfix, security updates and normal updates. After that, I couldn't install my MVware 4. Did you ha ve any suggestion on how to make it. What errors are you getting - or what exactly is going on when you try to install it? -- Thu Jul 10 23:40:00 EST 2003 23:40:00 up 4 days, 1:12, 3 users, load average: 0.34, 0.51, 0.60 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Don't compare floating point numbers solely for equality. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Network activity indicator
Hi all, I'm using MDK 9.1. Love it. Is there any way to have a network activity indicator in the task bar at the bottom, similar to to the two network computers that turn on/off when there is network traffic on a Windoz box? That is one small feature about Windoz that I liked. Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 02:04 am, Eric Huff wrote: cdrecord --checkdrive dev=0,0,0 here it is Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'IDE-CD ' Identifikation : 'R/RW 8x4x32 ' Revision : 'G1.9' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 ok, so what does all this tell us about my setup? thanks! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Install Probs on old Compaq
On 10 Jul 2003 22:42:07 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Have you tried slamming an IDE CDROM in it and trying the installation again? Surely you can afford to knick one outta one of your other machines for 40 minutes, ay? but my uptime... LOL! actually, I was trying to demonstrate the miracle of a cd-less install to a customer. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 11:31:05 up 15 days, 17:12, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Bastille firewall [was: Re: [newbie] No connection via Linux]
Doug and Anne; As soon as I get some feeling back into my fingertips ( one of my last posts was lengthy - to say the least! ), I'll probably forward it to you both, and hopefully you can put it on the TWiki site. I'm not sure I'll be able to do it as quickly as either of you, and I'm going to be back in the office soon, so if you don't mind I'll ask you this one favor? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/10/2003 at 2:06 PM Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 04:22, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2003 7:25 pm, Lanman wrote: For those needing a work-around for bastille-firewall, I just wanted to update you. I'm beginning to sound like a stuck record - when you've finished, will you put it on the TWiki, please? Anne I second that! DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network activity indicator
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:50:02 -0500 Burrows, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: That is one small feature about Windoz that I liked. big slap never, ever, mention windows features you liked! ever! jk anyway, there are many many dockapps, applets, doohickeys and whatnots to do this for you. Gkrellm is the most popular, and is on your CDs, but look here for many more: http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/ -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 11:37:14 up 15 days, 17:18, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] news fetching script update
If you are using the news headlines fetching script I wrote, you've undoubtedly noticed that it's broken lately as google has changed the format of its news pages. I have updated the script to work with the new format. http://clevername.homeip.net/scripts/gnews. Cheers, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] fix sis900 networkcard to 10 mbit
I tried to put mii-tool in ifup. That doesn't work. I think because mii-tool need some time to initialize. When I do a mii-tool --advertise=10baseT-FD,10baseT-HD mii-tool I get a no-link output. When I wait a second and rerun mii-tool everything is o.k. Rob Try putting your mii-tool command in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup round about line 329 just before DHCP is configured. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:29 am, Michael wrote: btw, i've been trying to run that command. i open up a terminal, su -, password, then type append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma, then hit enter, then type lilo, and a bunch of stuff comes up that pretty much tells me it's rewriting all the append lines in the lilo directory, then i reboot, and nothing in the illo directory has changed. what am i doing wrong? Er, I think that you are supposed to open up /etc/lilo.conf in an editor (like vi or kedit) then add those changes. After that, still as root or su, from a shell, type in /sbin/lilo (without the quotes). That will cause the changes to work the next time you bootup. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
Rosario Balboa wrote: I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is? Somebody posted a link to an excellent page with a utility that calculates the commands you need to add sources for just about anything (including Texstar and PLF) - you just have to choose your mirror, then paste the result code into a terminal. Unfortunately the bookmark is on my office computer ... Sir Robin -- A strategy is still being formulated. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
It's http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:56, Robin Turner wrote: Rosario Balboa wrote: I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is? Somebody posted a link to an excellent page with a utility that calculates the commands you need to add sources for just about anything (including Texstar and PLF) - you just have to choose your mirror, then paste the result code into a terminal. Unfortunately the bookmark is on my office computer ... Sir Robin -- Registered Linux User #299730 Registered Machine #204611 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 07:19 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: just for fun, edit your lilo.conf so the append line looks like this: append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma then, in the command line, run `lilo`, and reboot. See if it keeps crashing. btw, i've been trying to run that command. i open up a terminal, su -, password, then type append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma, then hit enter, then type lilo, and a bunch of stuff comes up that pretty much tells me it's rewriting all the append lines in the lilo directory, then i reboot, and nothing in the illo directory has changed. what am i doing wrong? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] File fragmentation?
How does linux handle file fragmentation and, thus, defragmentation? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday July 10 2003 09:30 am, Michael wrote: Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 ok, so what does all this tell us about my setup? thanks! That last line tells you the drive won't do DAO, so it's usefulness is sort'a limited. I'd get a different drive. You should see somethin like Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R (SessionAtOnce, SAO is DiskAtOnce, DAO). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:55, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:29 am, Michael wrote: btw, i've been trying to run that command. i open up a terminal, su -, password, then type append=quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma, then hit enter, then type lilo, and a bunch of stuff comes up that pretty much tells me it's rewriting all the append lines in the lilo directory, then i reboot, and nothing in the illo directory has changed. what am i doing wrong? Er, I think that you are supposed to open up /etc/lilo.conf in an editor (like vi or kedit) then add those changes. A few weeks ago I'd have still been confused after these directions. Specifically, That's vi /etc/lilo.conf i then puts you into edit mode, then make your changes then ESC to get out of edit mode, then :wq to write/save and quit. Your changes will be saved. All w/o quotes, as usual. After that, still as root or su, from a shell, type in /sbin/lilo (without the quotes). That will cause the changes to work the next time you bootup. -- Registered Linux User #299730 Registered Machine #204611 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:56:39 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Unfortunately the bookmark is on my office computer ... http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 12:11:56 up 15 days, 17:53, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT - SHOT ME!
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:22:34 -0400 Rosario Balboa [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Just following instructions: No, you most certainly are NOT. It is SHOOT ME not SHOT ME. Now you will go *nowhere* if you cannot follow the simplest of instructions! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 12:47:01 up 15 days, 18:28, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] File fragmentation?
-Original Message- From: Brooks Family [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:36 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] File fragmentation? How does linux handle file fragmentation and, thus, defragmentation? Linux and MS windows differ greatly on this. If you are using a journalized fileing system such as ext3, jfs, or rieser, then don't even worry about it. If you are using ext2, fragmentation is virtually noexistant. Jonathan G. Shilling Senior LAN Administrator Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him?
Doug - I wasn't joking...I was serious about taking this stuff to the OT list. One begins to think that the list is made up of all the loudmouths (like myself) and then other people chime in and say hello, I belong to this list for other reasons and you think, well, time to move it to where it belongs 8^) Peace, Mike Wafkowski - Original Message - From: Douglas Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beginners' Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Where's Todd Lyons when I need him? Good for you, Carroll! re: MRW - I'm with momma :-) DougB On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 02:11, Carroll Grigsby wrote: I joined this list several years ago because I needed all the help with Linux that I could get (still do), and this seemed like the best place to get it. I was right -- good advice, good people. As an unexpected bonus, I've made a lot of friends here, too. It's my belief that this list comes as close to being a genuine community as anything that I've seen on the web. I did NOT join this list to read great gobs of illiterate political ravings by otherwise very intelligent and likeable people who sadly seem to periodically lose all self control, indulging in the sort of shouting and name calling that would get any of my grandchildren an old-fashioned ass-chewing along with a good solid spanking. Look, if I want to read and discuss political matters, I know lots of places to go for that. If I want to listen to the kind of prattle that I've had to weigh through today, I can go down to the local jail and listen to the buffoons in the drunk tank. In short, as political analysts/proponents, you guys don't hack it. Cease and desist. Why the reference to Todd Lyons? Well, late last year one of these episodes broke out on the expert list. It got hot and heavy. Todd stepped in, and sent an off-list mail to all of those who had participated in the discussion that anyone who continued to post to the thread would be banished. End of discussion. FWIW, some of those guys have not been heard from since. On the good side, the various OT lists were formed in response to that action. And please don't tell me about filters -- why the hell should I have to do that to kill the drivel that other people are posting? (Nasty letter to follow.) -- cmg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network activity indicator
Burrows, Scott wrote: Hi all, I'm using MDK 9.1. Love it. Is there any way to have a network activity indicator in the task bar at the bottom, similar to to the two network computers that turn on/off when there is network traffic on a Windoz box? That is one small feature about Windoz that I liked. Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com If you use kppp to start your internet connection there is a ckeckbox during setup that make kpp dock to the panel. Then you can see the red dots blink. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sylpheed and GPG
On 10 Jul 2003 08:03:34 +1000 Stephen Kuhn wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : BTW, where would sylpheed - or any other program at that - store its system files (I haven't changed any defaults yet)? Application specific files should be: binaries: /usr/bin defaults: /usr/share/sylpheedX user specific: ~/home/yournamehere/.sylpheed Thank you Stephen, I found them. Not that I could do very much with them right now, but it is good to get a bit of understanding how Linux handles the files. -- Cheers Peter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:55 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Er, I think that you are supposed to open up /etc/lilo.conf in an editor (like vi or kedit) then add those changes. After that, still as root or su, from a shell, type in /sbin/lilo (without the quotes). That will cause the changes to work the next time you bootup. see, that's the problem. i'm opening the file in an editor. i've used kedit, kwrite, kate, and kword. i get into it, if i try to make a change, it doesn't work. i get told i don't have write permission or i'll get told it couldn't save or whatever. so what am i doing wrong? is there something i'm missing about trying to edit these files? every time i try it's like banging my head against the wallnothing happens except i get more confused. any suggestions? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network activity indicator
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:50:02 -0500 Burrows, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm using MDK 9.1. Love it. Is there any way to have a network activity indicator in the task bar at the bottom, similar to to the two network computers that turn on/off when there is network traffic on a Windoz box? That is one small feature about Windoz that I liked. Scott Assuming you're using KDE--I don't know but there should be an applet for that. If not, gkrellm has network monitoring, or search for dockapp through rpmdrake. Todd -- The Axis of Evil is Bush, Cheney, and Ashcroft. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File fragmentation?
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:36:15 -0500 Brooks Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How does linux handle file fragmentation and, thus, defragmentation? The file system is just smarter about how it writes and locates on the drive, so much smarter than something like FAT32 that it is not even on the same plane of existence. NTFS might be slightly better than FAT32, I am not sure, but I know I have had to defrag NTFS drives before so it does happen. As for the nitty gritty, you would need to do some heavy reading on Journalised File Systems, Google is your friend there. Main thing is, don't worry about it, it would take you decades of haphazard writing and deleting to frag your linux partitions. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 13:06:33 up 15 days, 18:47, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 July 2003 12:31 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday July 10 2003 09:30 am, Michael wrote: Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 ok, so what does all this tell us about my setup? thanks! That last line tells you the drive won't do DAO, so it's usefulness is sort'a limited. I'd get a different drive. You should see somethin like Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R (SessionAtOnce, SAO is DiskAtOnce, DAO). u, so there's no way to make my cd-rw drive work? because it worked to do the install. Tom, my jaw is on the floor right now. lemme clarify pleaseyou're saying there's no way it's going to work? as in, none at all? not even with different versions of linux, like maybe something other than mandrake 9.1? what type of future possibilities do i have for it working? like, i'd have to wait until someone changes the programming to support my (and drives similar to mine) to make them work? i'm just shocked, because the drive is listed as being a compatible drive. the best it's done so far is when i've tried to access a CD in teh drive, a window pops up to tell me how much % of the CD has loaded, and it'll lock up during that. i don't have the money to go buy another drive right now, i'm stuck with what i've got. as far as i can forsee, i wouldn't be able to replace this drive for a few months, even though there are some really cheap ones availible right now, money is tight. is there a possibility that due to maybe an error somewhere that i'm getting that TAO PACKET RAW/R16 and it could be corrected? i had some problems during the install with the cd drive, and it kept telling me it couldn't access a cd in the drive, came up with options for accessing it (a list of them, ide.ro, scsi-something, things like that). after about 8 tries to get it to access the cd in the drive, it finally did, but i don't remember what was picked when it finally accessed it. and this is strange, because the first time i installed mdk9.1 it went w/out a hitch, completely smooth (that is, once i got the CDs burned right). i remember seeing a post maybe last week that said install results may vary and i remember reading it, but i'm a little fuzzy on the contents of that thread. like i had previously stated, i think the CD drive worked on my first installation of mdk9.1, i can't remember exactly. and the only reason i formatted it out was because i installed a 2nd hard drive, moved the first hard drive from the secondary IDE to the primary, made it master, put the 2nd hard drive on the same ide channel and made it slave, and was having problems with getting into linux. i ended up just formatting it out to make my life easy instead of fighting it to make it work and started from scratch. i really havn't done much configuring to the current installnothing that i couldn't remember how to do again, mostly with the desktop setup, mail, things like that. is a format and re-installation a possibility? is there ANYTHING else i can do? rescue the installation? sit and wait for another kernel to be written or modified? shout out a few e-mails to those that can write kernels and see if they can make a correction or make modifications? at this point, i'm trying to find out if there's just a possibility that something went wrong on the install of the OS and it could be corrected. i really don't want to believe that this CD drive won't work with linux. there HAS to be a way...right? i thought that was the beauty of linux.if something didn't work you could get your hands dirty and make it work somehow i'm rambling, lemme know what you think. thank you. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT - SHOT ME!
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:22:34 -0400 Rosario Balboa [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: not being unable lo loggin in anymore. I'm not sure what you mean here, but I would imagine that there is something in the .bash_profile which is incompatible in .bashrc. as you noted, .bashrc is run when you log in, if there is something generating an error, you may not be able to login. is there some way you could post your current .bashrc? cheers! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 13:33:25 up 15 days, 19:14, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:56, you wrote: Rosario Balboa wrote: I ghot the same problem, but in Add a source there's relative path to synthesis/hdlist, what is this?Could you give me a couple nice URL with their synthesis/hdlist whatever this is? Somebody posted a link to an excellent page with a utility that calculates the commands you need to add sources for just about anything (including Texstar and PLF) - you just have to choose your mirror, then paste the result code into a terminal. Unfortunately the bookmark is on my office computer ... Sir Robin Was it this one? http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php Hope so, Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File fragmentation?
http://librenix.com/?inode=829 On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:36, Brooks Family wrote: How does linux handle file fragmentation and, thus, defragmentation? __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Registered Linux User #299730 Registered Machine #204611 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro
Title: RE: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro try F8 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JoeHill Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:11 PM To: Mandrake Newbs Subject: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro On boot, I don't see any method for getting into the BIOS. I tried the usual del, F1, ctrl-F1, etc. I just keyboard error and it boots anyway. Anyone else have one of these, uh, fine machines? Hey, it was free, what can I say? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 14:08:32 up 15 days, 19:49, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 8:17 pm, Michael wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2003 02:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Mike - you, as user, can't edit the files. If you open up File Manager Super User Mode you are, in effect, editing the file as root, and will be able to save it. Anne same thing as Konsole - Super User Mode, correct? because i've tried to use that too. i'd say half of it is me doing it wrong, but who knows what the other half of it is. Mike OK - then try this. In super user mode in a console, locate /etc/lilo.conf, and rename it to lilo.conf.old. If this does not work, try to copy it and paste - it should give you chance to rename the new copy. If you have to do it that way you will need to delete the original one. Then, open the lilo.conf.old, edit as required, and save as lilo.conf. That should get round the saving problem. If all that has worked, as root in a console run /sbin/lilo which should 'activate' the new lilo configuration for the next reboot. HTH Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
wade, to do things manually (is there a specific reason for that by the way?), you'll need to specify the hardware you have installed so that folk can tell you what needs to be done - assuming we know! bascule On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 6:05 am, Wade Waldron wrote: I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake configuration utility. Can someone give me an idea where to start. Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers. Wade -- 'Somewhere, A Crime Is Happening,' said Dorfl. (Feet of Clay) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro
On Compaq Deskpro computers you have to hit the F10 key at boot to go to the BIOS (this will work only if you see a white flashing block at boot up). If this doesn't work, go to compaq web site and download the proper F10 utility disk for your system. Note that Compaq Deskpro uses a partition on the hard drive to store bios informations, so if it's not the original hard drive in the system, it is likely you do not have this partition and you won't be able to get to the bios without the F10 utility boot disk. If the partition is there, you should see the little flashing block at boot up (at the POST). Albert Charron System Administrator - Trisotech Inc. -Original Message- From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:11 PM To: Mandrake Newbs Subject: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro On boot, I don't see any method for getting into the BIOS. I tried the usual del, F1, ctrl-F1, etc. I just keyboard error and it boots anyway. Anyone else have one of these, uh, fine machines? Hey, it was free, what can I say? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 14:08:32 up 15 days, 19:49, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Bastille firewall [was: Re: [newbie] No connection via Linux]
On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 2:20 pm, Lanman wrote: Doug and Anne; As soon as I get some feeling back into my fingertips ( one of my last posts was lengthy - to say the least! ), I'll probably forward it to you both, and hopefully you can put it on the TWiki site. I'm not sure I'll be able to do it as quickly as either of you, and I'm going to be back in the office soon, so if you don't mind I'll ask you this one favor? Lanman OK, Lanman. I'll be out most of tomorrow, but send it when it's ready and I'll put it up as soon as I can. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro [solved]
Now that was helpful Joe! Try using the F10 or F12 key when you see a blinking cursor, probably in the upper right-nad corner. It will only flash for about 3 to 4 seconds maximum so you have to be fast! On older systems Compaq used to use different hotkeys to enter the BIOS. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
Curt Tresenriter wrote: It's http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php That was the one.A very useful page. Sir Robin -- A strategy is still being formulated. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to install vmware 4 after kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdk update
Thanks for Your help Stephen; Like a newbie i forgot to write this important detail, sory my mistake... the erro is some thing like this: Can find /usr/src/include maybe this is not your default directory... I tried set this to /usr/src/linux-2.4.21.0-18mdk, and the erro change to: your linux directory is ok but one of this files or directory is not present [net], [asm] and ... --- Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 22:14, Lucio_Costa wrote: Greetings All. I format my last one Window$ machine and installed MDK9.1, I updated all bugfix, security updates and normal updates. After that, I couldn't install my MVware 4. Did you ha ve any suggestion on how to make it. What errors are you getting - or what exactly is going on when you try to install it? -- Thu Jul 10 23:40:00 EST 2003 23:40:00 up 4 days, 1:12, 3 users, load average: 0.34, 0.51, 0.60 - |____ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Don't compare floating point numbers solely for equality. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com = []'s Lucio Costa Linux user #204519 We do what we can, we give what we have Our doubt is our passion and our passion is our task The rest is the madness of art. ___ Yahoo! Mail Mais espaço, mais segurança e gratuito: caixa postal de 6MB, antivírus, proteção contra spam. http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File fragmentation?
Brooks Family wrote: How does linux handle file fragmentation and, thus, defragmentation? IIRC, I wrote a long explanation of this a couple of weeks ago. The short explanation is: Linux filesystems don't fragment because they don't put files in stupid places. Unix doesn't either. Nor does MacIntosh. I doubt if BeOS or OS/2 do either. Hmmm, who does that leave? Sir Robin -- A strategy is still being formulated. Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
