Re: [newbie] new and updated

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:24:35 -0500
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Charles; Are your packages available from an FTP server so
 that we can download the entire set of packages in one
 shot?

No, its http.

Even if it is for just for 1 set, its easy to add to urpmi and after
installation you can remove it as a source if you wish.
Speed is as fast as ftp


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Re: [newbie] new and updated

[Lanman]

Thanks. Urpmi and I are old friends, so no problem there.
Just wanted to know about the FTP option.

Lanman

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On 1/26/2004 at 7:04 AM Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:24:35 -0500
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Charles; Are your packages available from an FTP server
so
 that we can download the entire set of packages in one
 shot?

No, its http.

Even if it is for just for 1 set, its easy to add to urpmi
and after
installation you can remove it as a source if you wish.
Speed is as fast as ftp


Charles

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Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?

[Bryan Phinney]

On Sunday 25 January 2004 10:12 pm, Glenn wrote:
 On Sunday 25 January 2004 00:36, Marc Resnick wrote:
  My network, running on a linksys router, really hates my linux box. It
  uses no encryption, and has a DHCP server providing IP info for all of
  the connected boxes. The problem is, every time I boot linux, I have to
  reset the router by unplugging it then plugging it back in, kicking my
  whole family offline. Then I need to do a service network restart on
  linux, and then disable and enable the connection on another windoze box.
  I've downloaded a bunch of DHCP bugfixes and updates on mdk 9.2, and
  upgraded the firmware for my router. Anyone have a way around it? I'm on
  the verge of getting tech support from linksys, and I've had some nasty
  experiences with tech support.

There are a number of possibilities that might account for this behavior.  
First, the Linux box is set with a static IP address assigned that conflicts 
with one of the IP's that is being delegated by the linksys Router device.  
So, for example, the linux box is set to use 192.168.0.101 and the Router is 
trying to assign that address to one of the Windows boxen.  When you start 
up, there is a conflict, when you restart the router, that removes the 
assigned IP addresses, restart linux claims that IP address from the router 
and then the other machines get other IP addresses.  The solution here is to 
tell the router to start assigning addresses after the static one, thus start 
at 192.168.0.105 and leave the first few addresses for static assignments.

Another possibility.  You have set the router to assign a specific IP address 
to a MAC address that belongs to the network card in the LInux box.  But the 
address assignments start at that address.  So, the router gives the address 
to one of the windows boxen, then the Linux box tries to claim the address 
via MAC assignment, again there is a conflict with the restart resolving the 
conflict.  This happens when you create a static assignment in the Linksys 
but then tell the router to start assigning addresses before or at the static 
assignment.  I.E., I tell the router to assign 192.168.0.101 to MAC address 
AA-EB-16-02-DC, then tell it to start assigning addresses at 192.168.0.100.  
The first box on the net gets 100, the second 101, then the MAC address comes 
along and can't pick up 101 cause it has already been assigned.  The solution 
here is the same as the first one, tell the router to start assigning 
addresses after the static ones, so start at 192.168.0.105 and leave the 
first few for static assignments.

If you really want to troubleshoot this, we would need to know any static 
assignments in the router, where it starts assigning addresses and how each 
of the windows and linux boxen are configured.  Another possible solution is 
to hard reset the Linksys router, clearing all of the configuration info from 
the device and then see if the problem goes away.  If so, my guess would be a 
configuration conflict in the router.
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Re: [newbie] xmule/amule?

[Angus Auld]

- Original Message -
From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:05:55 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] xmule/amule?

 On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:06:20 -0300
 Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can anyone offer any advice/tips/comments? What is a good 
  P2P client for Mandrake? I tried eDonkey a while back, and 
 
 I'm so far having the same problem as you - can't get it to download
 either.
 
 for more bare-bones p2p stuff, gnutella/mutella works rather OK. I at
 least have gotten files from out there. But in general, p2p is rather
 a useless tool. I would probably say the same thing about bittorrent (ps
 I did my first bittorrent yesterday, getting the 10.0 cooker betas).
 That worked prettywell. I was half expecting what I usually get out of
 p2p clients, which is waiting a week for a 50 meg file to trickle in a
 few bytes at a time.
 
 David E. Fox  
*
I did eventually manage to download with amule. My problem 
was apparently a wrong choice of source server. While amule/ 
xmule are basically the same programs, I found amule to have 
a more polished look.

I made the big plunge over the weekend and installed 9.2 to 
replace my 9.1 install. After spending some time configuring, 
and MANY hours downloading a lot of  
updates (on a dialup!), I'm now 
enjoying 9.2.
I am using apollon as a p2p program now, and I find it easy to 
use. With both FastTrack and OpenFT plugins installed, there 
always seems to be lots of results.

Best regards.



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Re: [newbie] Best Softwares

[robin]

Ramin wrote:
Generally look at
  http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml
On January 23, 2004 03:14 pm, André Tapxure Gabriel wrote:

People,

I'm trying to substitute Windows in all of my clients by Mandrake.
First Step: Install mandrake on my computer and learn how it works
By installing mandrake on my computer, I noted that a lot of software is
missing or is not in the default installation so I decided to write to
this list
Somebody can tell me the list of most used software to replace Windows
software?
Microsoft Office
Open office, Koffice, star office (propriety)
Koffice will read MS Word documents, but won't save in that format.
If you're into academic/technical writing, LyX is worth looking at. It 
seems weird at first, but in the long run it's a real time-saver, and 
typesets better.


Microsoft Outlook
 Mozilla messenger though i am using kmail and evolution.
Sylphhed-claws if you want tones of features.  I'm happy with Mozilla 
Messenger. Thunderbird is the stand-alone mail client, if you don't need 
the Mozilla browser.

Microsoft internet Explorer
 Konqueror, mozilla, mozilla firebird, opera, galeon

Ahead Nero
Is that Nero as in the CD-burner?  If so, K3B.

Sir Robin

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[newbie] Problem with ppp

[Hoyt Bailey]

I am having difficulties with ppp,  I remember configuring it and it dialed
the ISP but didnt connect.  I was sure that I had made a mistake and figured
to resolve the problem later.  Its later and I cant find the pap-secrets
file or much of ppp.  There are a few (3 to 6) files that contain ppp,  but
no pap or chap-secrets  no man or info ppp files.  I believe the initial
config. was done from the welcome file in KDE but now it dosent function
(reason unknown).  I installed a lot of programs from CD so maybe somthing
removed ppp.  The problem is:  I dont know how to reinstall.

The question:  How do I reinstall ppp from CD?

Regards;
Hoyt



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Re: [newbie] Problem with ppp

[et]

On Monday 26 January 2004 01:37 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 I am having difficulties with ppp,  I remember configuring it and it dialed
 the ISP but didnt connect.  I was sure that I had made a mistake and
 figured to resolve the problem later.  Its later and I cant find the
 pap-secrets file or much of ppp.  There are a few (3 to 6) files that
 contain ppp,  but no pap or chap-secrets  no man or info ppp files.  I
 believe the initial config. was done from the welcome file in KDE but now
 it dosent function (reason unknown).  I installed a lot of programs from CD
 so maybe somthing removed ppp.  The problem is:  I dont know how to
 reinstall.

 The question:  How do I reinstall ppp from CD?

 Regards;
 Hoyt
this is different in different versions, but (as root, in a text console, 
without the quotes) urpmi kdenetwork-kppp is a good way to get kppp, in 
9.2.
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Re: [newbie] Problem with ppp

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 03:16
Subject: Re: [newbie] Problem with ppp


 On Monday 26 January 2004 01:37 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  I am having difficulties with ppp,  I remember configuring it and it
dialed
  the ISP but didnt connect.  I was sure that I had made a mistake and
  figured to resolve the problem later.  Its later and I cant find the
  pap-secrets file or much of ppp.  There are a few (3 to 6) files that
  contain ppp,  but no pap or chap-secrets  no man or info ppp files.  I
  believe the initial config. was done from the welcome file in KDE but
now
  it dosent function (reason unknown).  I installed a lot of programs from
CD
  so maybe somthing removed ppp.  The problem is:  I dont know how to
  reinstall.
 
  The question:  How do I reinstall ppp from CD?
 
  Regards;
  Hoyt
 this is different in different versions, but (as root, in a text console,
 without the quotes) urpmi kdenetwork-kppp is a good way to get kppp, in
 9.2.
 ET
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Thank you I'll try it out.
Regards;
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[newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[JoeHill]

Quote:

Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The
only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other
operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work
like a normal CD-ROM drive.

Link:

http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitemgroup=cdrwid=1

Here's where you can set them straight:

http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact

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it might be done which would not be accurate ... necessarily accurate ... it
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Re: [newbie] strangness with PPP modem

[et]

On Sunday 25 January 2004 09:48 pm, The Other wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:49:05 -0800 (PST), Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have done alot of research on google. This problem
  seems to be pretty widespread. I started with Knoppix
  3.2 and purchased an External Creative Modem Blaster
  (I believe model 5621) because I could not get a
  winmodem to work. With Knoppix 3.2 Creative Modem
  worked. I installed Knoppix 3.2 to the harddrive and
  it still worked. Then I decided to try Mandrake 9.2.
  Thats when I started getting this error. I have since
  gotten a copy of Knoppix 3.3 and it is having the same
  trouble. I sent an email to the address provided on
  the error page and this is what he wrote back:
 
  I'd like to help but I don't know what to make out of
 
  this error:
  16The link was terminated by the modem hanging
 
  up.
 
  If you ever find out, please tell me.

 01/25/04

 I had this problem once when using 'kppp' (I've switched to 'wvdial').

 Suggestion 1)  Turn on the modem's speaker so you can hear what's going
 on.  Tell anyone nearby that this is *really* necessary.  IIRC, the noise
 stops when the connection handshake is completed.

 Suggestion 2)  Increase *every* timeout setting you can find in 'kppp'.
 My problem was that the default 'kppp' waiting for a connection handshake
 to complete was 30 seconds.  It was taking my modem 45 seconds to complete
 the handshake with the ISP.  Hence my modem was 'hanging up' because it
 was never getting through the handshake due to 'kppp' stopping the
 handshake process at 30 seconds.  I set the 'kppp' waiting to connect
 parameter (or whatever it's called) to 60 seconds and the problem went
 away.

 HTH,
 The Other
there also may be setting for the modem init string that need to be passed,  
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RE: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Tony S. Sykes]

Samsung Suicide?

-Original Message-
From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.



Quote:

Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with
Linux/Unix. The
only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the
other
operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will
work
like a normal CD-ROM drive.

Link:

http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitemgroup=cdrw;
id=1

Here's where you can set them straight:

http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact

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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Bryan Phinney]

On Monday 26 January 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote:
 Quote:

 Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix.
 The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the
 other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers
 will work like a normal CD-ROM drive.

The correct text should probably read: Almost no manufacturer in the market 
supports CD Writers as being compatible with Linux/Unixblah blah.  Then 
it would be technically correct since I don't know of any manufacturer that 
supports their CD/DVD Writing products under Linux/Unix either.  Then again, 
they don't support them as normal CD-ROM Drives either.
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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Paul]

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 16:58, JoeHill wrote:
 Quote:
 
 Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The
 only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other
 operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work
 like a normal CD-ROM drive.
 
 Link:
 
 http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitemgroup=cdrwid=1
 
 Here's where you can set them straight:
 
 http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact

My response to Samsung:

I understand from your site that my CD writer does not work under
Linux.

However it works perfectly, usually I use the software package K3b,
which I find as good as Ahead Nero for Windows.

How can I stop it from recording?

Paul M




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[newbie] newbie archives end at 11-2003

[David Little]

Hi,

The newbie archives at archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ ends at
2003-11.

Is there another archive with December-03  Jan-04 somewhere else? 

I have a Lacie mobile drive which I want to repartition, there were a
lot of relevant posts recently which I forgot to save.

David


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Re: [newbie] newbie archives end at 11-2003

[Greg Meyer]

On Monday 26 January 2004 10:45 am, David Little wrote:
 Hi,

 The newbie archives at archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ ends at
 2003-11.

 Is there another archive with December-03  Jan-04 somewhere else?

 I have a Lacie mobile drive which I want to repartition, there were a
 lot of relevant posts recently which I forgot to save.

 David

Searchable archives exist here http://marc.theaimsgroup.com

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Re: [newbie] Best Softwares

[André Tapxure Gabriel]

thanks!1

- Original Message - 
From: Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Best Softwares


On Friday 23 January 2004 13:14, André Tapxure Gabriel wrote:
 People,

 I'm trying to substitute Windows in all of my clients by Mandrake.
 First Step: Install mandrake on my computer and learn how it works
 By installing mandrake on my computer, I noted that a lot of software is
 missing or is not in the default installation so I decided to write to
 this list
 Somebody can tell me the list of most used software to replace Windows
 software?


Check out http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml for a
comparson of windows/linux programs.



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Re: [newbie] strangness with PPP modem

[John]

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 05:03, et wrote:
 On Sunday 25 January 2004 09:48 pm, The Other wrote:
  On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:49:05 -0800 (PST), Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have done alot of research on google. This problem
   seems to be pretty widespread. I started with Knoppix
   3.2 and purchased an External Creative Modem Blaster
   (I believe model 5621) because I could not get a
   winmodem to work. With Knoppix 3.2 Creative Modem
   worked. I installed Knoppix 3.2 to the harddrive and
   it still worked. Then I decided to try Mandrake 9.2.
   Thats when I started getting this error. I have since
   gotten a copy of Knoppix 3.3 and it is having the same
   trouble. I sent an email to the address provided on
   the error page and this is what he wrote back:
  
   I'd like to help but I don't know what to make out of
  
   this error:
   16The link was terminated by the modem hanging
  
   up.
  
   If you ever find out, please tell me.
 
  01/25/04
 
  I had this problem once when using 'kppp' (I've switched to 'wvdial').
 
  Suggestion 1)  Turn on the modem's speaker so you can hear what's going
  on.  Tell anyone nearby that this is *really* necessary.  IIRC, the noise
  stops when the connection handshake is completed.
 
  Suggestion 2)  Increase *every* timeout setting you can find in 'kppp'.
  My problem was that the default 'kppp' waiting for a connection handshake
  to complete was 30 seconds.  It was taking my modem 45 seconds to complete
  the handshake with the ISP.  Hence my modem was 'hanging up' because it
  was never getting through the handshake due to 'kppp' stopping the
  handshake process at 30 seconds.  I set the 'kppp' waiting to connect
  parameter (or whatever it's called) to 60 seconds and the problem went
  away.
 
  HTH,
  The Other
 there also may be setting for the modem init string that need to be passed,

 I had some info. from linux headquarters that helped me with kppp and
  the same problem. I needed to add the following to the field execute
 upon connect: route add default ppp0. This was to ensure that the
  default gateway was set from ISP.  

John


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Re: [newbie] newbie archives end at 11-2003

[David Little]

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 15:58, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Monday 26 January 2004 10:45 am, David Little wrote:
  Hi,
 
  The newbie archives at archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ ends at
  2003-11.
 
  Is there another archive with December-03  Jan-04 somewhere else?
 
  I have a Lacie mobile drive which I want to repartition, there were a
  lot of relevant posts recently which I forgot to save.
 
  David
 
 Searchable archives exist here http://marc.theaimsgroup.com

thanks

david


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Re: [newbie] newbie archives end at 11-2003

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Monday 26 January 2004 10:58 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Monday 26 January 2004 10:45 am, David Little wrote:
  Hi,
 
  The newbie archives at archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ ends at
  2003-11.
 
  Is there another archive with December-03  Jan-04 somewhere else?
 
  I have a Lacie mobile drive which I want to repartition, there were a
  lot of relevant posts recently which I forgot to save.
 
  David

 Searchable archives exist here http://marc.theaimsgroup.com

And here, too:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/index.html
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[newbie] Standard Installation

[Andr Tapxure Gabriel]

Hi there!

I was trying to install Netscape 7.1 and when the 
installation program asked in what directory the software should be installed, 
it automatically sugested to install in /usr/local/netscape and I answered 
YES!. The system informed that I have no permission to create this 
directory... In this minute, some questions poped-up in my mind...

1 - What is the standard directory that I have to 
install the softwares? Like "c:\Program Files" in the winsux?
2 - I have to give root powers to my user to 
install this programs or log as root and install them?

Thanks
Andr Tapxure

Re: [newbie] Best Softwares

[fifner the dragon]

Hi, 
I had this problem and tried this solution. Many things came back, even if they were 
moved around a little. But there is still a really important one missing, Configure 
your computer. 

How do I get this one back? Or how can I access it from a console?

Thanks in advance,

Fifner


- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:55:02 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Best Softwares

 If by missing you mean there were not many items in the menu, then that is a 
 known bug in 9.2
 
 The solution is to do Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text screen
 Log in as root
 Type
 update-menus -v
 Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to your graphical screen
 
 Your menu will now have a lot of items in it.
 Then go and do your Mandrake Updates to install the updated package to stop it 
 happening again.
 
 derek
 
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Re: [newbie] cdrecord not!

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 26 January 2004 04:36 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
 cd to directory source of iso file
 cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -pad -data -eject -ignsize  iso
 file

 John

That's be OK for data CD's, but *without* -ignsize !! 
For bootable iso's, remove -pad -data and -ignsize, and add -dao

cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -eject -dao  iso file

(from 'man cdrecord) -ignsize
   Ignore the known size of the medium. This options should be 
used with extreme care, it exists only for debugging purposes  
don't use it for other reasons.  It is not needed to write disks 
with more than the nominal capacity.  This option implies  
-overburn.   
Which is always a bad idea and rarely works anyhow.

So that's an uneeded, very bad idea.  A simple CL for burning 
bootable iso's is   
  cdrecord -v -eject speed=?? dev=?,?,? -dao iso file

 Replace the ?'s with your values. I suggest 1/3 of the lesser 
of the drive or media's max speed=  for bootable iso's.
'cdrecord -scanbus' will show you what to use for  dev=

   After burning it's very important to check the md5sum of the 
burned CD.   'md5sum /dev/scd?' is the best and easiest way.
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Re: [newbie] Standard Installation

[Greg Meyer]

On Monday 26 January 2004 12:03 pm, Andr Tapxure Gabriel wrote:
 Hi there!

 I was trying to install Netscape 7.1 and when the installation program
 asked in what directory the software should be installed, it automatically
 sugested to install in /usr/local/netscape and I answered YES!. The
 system informed that I have no permission to create this directory... In
 this minute, some questions poped-up in my mind...

 1 - What is the standard directory that I have to install the softwares?
The installer gave you the correct directory for stuff that does not come with 
the distro.

 Like c:\Program Files in the winsux? 2 - I have to give root powers to my
 user to install this programs or log as root and install them?

Log in as root, install and then the program should be available to all users.  
BTW, Windows NT/2000/XP requires this too, but it hides this fact by putting 
all users in an administrators group to allow anybody to install software.  
You can make it so that you have to log in as administrator to install 
software though


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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 26 January 2004 14:58, JoeHill wrote:
 Quote:

 Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with
 Linux/Unix. The only recommended operating systems for using CD
 writers are Windows 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do
 not support most of the other operating systems. In other words:
 under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work like a normal CD-ROM
 drive.

While it is true that the programs supplied do not work with linux, 
the first sentence is unarguably wrong.  Time to bombard them with 
complaints, folks.

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Re: [newbie] Standard Installation

[Hoyt Bailey]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andr Tapxure Gabriel 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 
11:03
  Subject: [newbie] Standard 
  Installation
  
  Hi there!
  
  I was trying to install Netscape 7.1 and when the 
  installation program asked in what directory the software should be installed, 
  it automatically sugested to install in /usr/local/netscape and I answered 
  YES!. The system informed that I have no permission to create this 
  directory... In this minute, some questions poped-up in my 
mind...
  
  1 - What is the standard directory that I have to 
  install the softwares? Like "c:\Program Files" in the winsux?
  2 - I have to give root powers to my user to 
  install this programs or log as root and install them?
  
  Thanks
  Andr Tapxure
  
  Yes.
  Hoyt

Re: [newbie] Best Softwares

[Aron Smith]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:04:48 -0500
fifner the dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Hi, 
[I had this problem and tried this solution. Many things came
back, even if they were moved around a little. But there is
still a really important one missing, Configure your
computer. [
[How do I get this one back? Or how can I access it from a
console?[
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Open a terminal and type mcc 
[Thanks in advance,
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[Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:55:02 +
[To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Subject: Re: [newbie] Best Softwares
[
[ If by missing you mean there were not many items in the
menu, then that is a [ known bug in 9.2
[ 
[ The solution is to do Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text screen
[ Log in as root
[ Type
[ update-menus -v
[ Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to your graphical screen
[ 
[ Your menu will now have a lot of items in it.
[ Then go and do your Mandrake Updates to install the updated
package to stop it [ happening again.
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Re: [newbie] Best Softwares

[fifner the dragon]

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From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:55:03 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Best Softwares
Thanks a lot for the quick answer. I'm a lot happier now.
 
 Open a terminal and type mcc 
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 [ If by missing you mean there were not many items in the
 menu, then that is a [ known bug in 9.2
 [ 
 [ The solution is to do Ctl+Alt+F1 to get a text screen
 [ Log in as root
 [ Type
 [ update-menus -v
 [ Ctl+Alt+F7 to go back to your graphical screen
 [ 
 [ Your menu will now have a lot of items in it.
 [ Then go and do your Mandrake Updates to install the updated
 package to stop it [ happening again.
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[newbie] Supported 802.11g wireless card on Mandrake 9.2?

[azrael]

Could anyone tell me or point me to a list of 802.11g PCI wireless cards 
that are supported (without fuss) on Mandrake 9.2?

many thanks

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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[Tom Brinkman]

On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
     You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run
 './mprime -m'    And run it as user, not root. The first time
 it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say
  n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose
  17. 

 So how can I run it as root ?

   You can su to root in a teminal. I just tellin you, you don't 
need to be root, and IMO, I wouldn't run mprime as root. Actually 
any programs that don't need root, should be run as user. Always.

 mprime2212 $ ./mprime -m
 Main Menu

 1.  Test/Primenet
 2.  Test/User Information
 3.  Test/Vacation or Holiday
 4.  Test/Status
 5.  Test/Continue
 6.  Test/Exit
 7.  Advanced/Test
 8.  Advanced/Time
 9.  Advanced/P-1
10.  Advanced/ECM
11.  Advanced/Priority
12.  Advanced/Manual Communication
13.  Advanced/Unreserve Exponent
14.  Advanced/Quit Gimps
15.  Options/CPU
16.  Options/Preferences
17.  Options/Torture Test
18.  Options/Benchmark
19.  Help/About
20.  Help/About PrimeNet Server
 Your choice:
~
 
 Your choice: 17

 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
 Please read stress.txt.  Hit ^C to end this test.
 Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT  
 length.
 Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024K FFT 
 length.
|
|
   ...and so on.  You can just quit the console it's runnin 
in. If you use their suggestion, Ctrl+C, then you'll be taken 
back to the menu and need to choose 6 to exit, or another choice.

 Let mprime run over night, it uses progressively tougher 
tests, but none will harm hardware, and the program aborts itself 
anyhow on hardware errors.  You can run it while using your 
computer, but since mprime is nice'd it will defer to any other 
processes. So for best results, let it go overnite while you're 
not using your system. IE, quit or pause other running programs 
(no need to stop normal background processes that cron runs). 

Now FWIW, mprime is a precompiled binary. Normally I avoid 
running other peoples binaries on my system, But IMO mprime is 
trustworthy.. if run as _user_ ;)  Also, IMO, it's suitable 
for ready mades and laptops. Particularly since it self aborts on 
hardware errors in oc'd, weak, or marginal systems. No need to 
monitor temps. It definitely should be run overnite before 
attempting cpuburn.
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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[ronald]

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 Quote:
 
 Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix. The
 only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the other
 operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers will work
 like a normal CD-ROM drive.
 
 Link:
 
 http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitemgroup=cdrwid=1
 

I own a samsung cdwriter, on advice from the local store, 
the told me cheap and no linux-problems :)

ronald
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Re: [newbie] new and updated

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:18:38 -0500
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks. Urpmi and I are old friends, so no problem there.
 Just wanted to know about the FTP option.

Had not thought about before someone asked off list but if you want
copies of all the rpms locally you can use wget the mirror the site

wget --mirror --include-directories=/9.2 www.eslrahc.com


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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Dennis Myers]

On Monday 26 January 2004 08:58 am, JoeHill wrote:
 Quote:

 Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix.
 The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
 95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the
 other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers
 will work like a normal CD-ROM drive.

 Link:

 http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=faqitemgroup=cdrwid=
1

 Here's where you can set them straight:

 http://www.samsungoms-europe.com/samsung.php?section=contact
I left them a note, three different brands used, none made by the same 
company, all work very well. I have used about 5 different burning progs and 
no bad burns. Open source software works very well.
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Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

[Richard Urwin]

On Sunday 25 Jan 2004 10:13 pm, Frank Bax wrote:
 At 03:34 PM 1/25/04, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 My luck must have run out.  I spent 4 days downloading cd1,2,3 and
  installed Mandrake 9.2 with no obvious problems or errors.  3
  cheers for the Mandrake team.
 
 I installed all the programs I wanted (No networking) and did not
  use CD3. I was wondering what it is for?

 CD3 for installing packages contained on that cd - browse it to find
 out what they are.
 Selecting OpenOffice and a language other than US-English will
 trigger prompt for CD3.

I tend to use it quite often, which makes me think development 
libraries.

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[newbie] Re: Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Björn Lundin]

Paul wrote:


 My response to Samsung:
 
 I understand from your site that my CD writer does not work under
 Linux.
 
 However it works perfectly, usually I use the software package K3b,
 which I find as good as Ahead Nero for Windows.
 
 How can I stop it from recording?
 
 Paul M

I took the liberty to translate your answer to Swedish, since I was redirect
to Samsung's swedish site. 
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Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

[robin]

Richard Urwin wrote:
On Sunday 25 Jan 2004 10:13 pm, Frank Bax wrote:

At 03:34 PM 1/25/04, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

My luck must have run out.  I spent 4 days downloading cd1,2,3 and
installed Mandrake 9.2 with no obvious problems or errors.  3
cheers for the Mandrake team.
I installed all the programs I wanted (No networking) and did not
use CD3. I was wondering what it is for?
CD3 for installing packages contained on that cd - browse it to find
out what they are.
Selecting OpenOffice and a language other than US-English will
trigger prompt for CD3.


I tend to use it quite often, which makes me think development 
libraries.
It has that, some TeX stuff, and localisation files (hence the name 
International CD).  In other words, it's a catch-all fro RPMs most 
users won't want.

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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[John Richard Smith]

Tom Brinkman wrote:

   You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run
'./mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time 
it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17.
 

OK, I got mprime to run in root OK, in the end, just had to make some 
adjustment.

Something interesting.
mencoder crashes my whole system if I have the bios set to FSB=133 it's 
maximum, and the standard setting in W2K which works so well with 
Gordian knot (a windblows equivelant to mencoder). So lets see how the 
cpu stand up in linux,
First FSB=100
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /root/Desktop/mprime
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime]# ls
license.txt  mprime*readme.txt  undoc.txt
local.inimprime2212.tar.gz  stress.txt  whatsnew.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime]# mprime -m
snip
Your choice: 17

Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
Please read stress.txt.  Hit ^C to end this test.
Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024K FFT length.
temp1:  +33°C  (limit =  +60°C) sensor = thermistor
Test 3, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 4, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874367 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 5, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 6, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825791 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 7, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 1024K FFT length.
snip
Test 689, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M186369 using 10K FFT length.
Test 690, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M188415 using 10K FFT length.
Test 691, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M164865 using 10K FFT length.
Test 692, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M172031 using 10K FFT length.
Test 693, 1000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M180225 using 10K FFT length.
Self-test 10K passed!
Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 896K FFT length.
Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825791 using 896K FFT length.
Test 3, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 896K FFT length.
Test 4, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 896K FFT length.
Test 5, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515073 using 896K FFT length.
Test 6, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515071 using 896K FFT length.
Test 7, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M15597569 using 896K FFT length.
Test 8, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M15597567 using 896K FFT length.
Test 9, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14942209 using 896K FFT length.
Test 10, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14942207 using 896K FFT length.
Test 11, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14155777 using 896K FFT length.
Test 12, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M14155775 using 896K FFT length.
Test 13, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M13369345 using 896K FFT length.
Test 14, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M13369343 using 896K FFT length.
Self-test 896K passed!
Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825793 using 896K FFT length.
Test 2, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17825791 using 896K FFT length.
Test 3, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432577 using 896K FFT length.
Test 4, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M17432575 using 896K FFT length.
Test 5, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M16515073 using 896K FFT length.
temp1:  +34°C  (limit =  +60°C)sensor = thermistor
mprime has been running over an hour, decided to end it there for the 
moment,
Anyway no apparent problems there. So now for bios reset,
FSB=133
===
Your choice: 17

Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
Please read stress.txt.  Hit ^C to end this test.
Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
==Total Lockup==
The entire system locks up tight, no keyboard,no mouse, nothing,
only left to crash our and reboot with fsck's to partitions and everything.
Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a faulty 
CPU(Athlon 1800)
but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133 setting 
and complete the encoding in less time than mencoder and without any 
stress to the cpu.This does not tend indicate a faulty cpu to my mind.

I suspect the linux kernel is not particularly good at running cpu's 
like mine at it's maximum capacity. Others may disagree, but that is the 
feeling I have had for some time now. I noticed that there is a 
windblows version of mprime, it might be interesting if I downloaded it 
and installed in W2K and run the test again from there. But for now food 
for thought.

John

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[newbie] gimp1-3-2.0-0.pre2.1

[Dan Gordon]

I just installed this rpm from Charles Edwards and when i try to start
the program i get...
gimp-1.3: relocation error: gimp-1.3: undefined symbol:
gimp_filename_to_utf8

This looks like a font problem i think, is this right and should i get
the fonts packages from the gimp site ?
Before this i had the pre1.1 package installed and it worked fine. I did
not un-install pre1.1 before installing pre2.1 was this the problem ?
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
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[newbie] Any more ideas for the wireless dongle?

[Lexx]

 If you remove the dongle, wait 10 secs, and insert it again, then
 wait 10 secs and type
 dmesg

 You should see some messages relating to usb at the bottom.
 What are they?
usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:1f.2-2, assigned address 2
hub.c: new USB device 00:1f.2-2, assigned address 3
at65c503-fw_skel.c: using complied-in firmware
at65c503.c: Downloading external firmware failed: -22
usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x1371/0x13) is not claimed by any active
driver.

 And if you type
 modprobe at76c505-rfmd2958
I get nothing


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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[robin]

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Monday 26 January 2004 09:58 am, JoeHill wrote:

Quote:

Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix.
The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the
other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers
will work like a normal CD-ROM drive.


The correct text should probably read: Almost no manufacturer in the market 
supports CD Writers as being compatible with Linux/Unixblah blah.  Then 
it would be technically correct since I don't know of any manufacturer that 
supports their CD/DVD Writing products under Linux/Unix either.  Then again, 
they don't support them as normal CD-ROM Drives either.
Ironically, the only manufacturer I know that put Linux compatible on 
the box was LG.  Oops.

A better way of phrasing Sansung's statement would be Almost all CD 
writers available in the market are compatible with Linux/Unix, but we 
prefer to let the guys in the Linux kernel development team do the hard 
work.

So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist.  Lucky I just bought a 
Philips CD writer.  I hear it's a PITA under Windows, but it works fine 
(if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2.

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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 26 January 2004 01:53 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
 mprime has been running over an hour, decided to end it there
 for the moment,
 Anyway no apparent problems there.

   I don't agree, 1 hour is an indication, IME you pass after 
about 8 hours or more, ie, overnite.

 So now for bios reset, 
 FSB=133

 Does your board also have FSB jumpers? Better boards do, a 
long with bios BSB settings.

 ===
 Your choice: 17

 Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
 Please read stress.txt.  Hit ^C to end this test.
 Test 1, 400 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K
 FFT length. ==Total
 Lockup==
 The entire system locks up tight, no keyboard,no mouse,
 nothing, only left to crash our and reboot with fsck's to
 partitions and everything.

 Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a
 faulty CPU(Athlon 1800)

More likely motherboard and/or ram, overheating, maybe PSU.
Are all those components AMD approved?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869,00.html

 but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133
 setting and complete the encoding in less time than mencoder
 and without any stress to the cpu.This does not tend indicate a
 faulty cpu to my mind.

 I suspect the linux kernel is not particularly good at running
 cpu's like mine at it's maximum capacity.

Actually, I believe your thinking is 180º off.  W2K uses 
CPU/cache/ram very sloppily. Particularly motherboards, cache, 
ram, and harddrives.  Often marginal systems will function with 
M$ crap, but fail Linux's greater demands on them. 

   Mandrake makes my  XP 3000+ (overclocked to over 3200+, 171Mhz 
FSB, ram at DDR 419) absolutely *FLY*.  Mencoder or Trancode is 
fast and no problemo. Even for 7+Gig DVD ripping, encoding, or 
800MB movie resizing. Same for mprime 17, or cpuburn's 'burnK7'.  
Many many kernels since 2.21.x, now 2.6.2rc1, with this hardware.  
Often with low latency, preempt versions.

 Others may disagree, 
 but that is the feeling I have had for some time now. I noticed
 that there is a windblows version of mprime, it might be
 interesting if I downloaded it and installed in W2K and run the
 test again from there. But for now food for thought.

 John

   Try it, there's also a Winsux version of cpuburn. BUT, I 
suspect you can't use the correct FSB for your Athlon because of 
a marginal motherboard and/or ram.  Could be ram timings in bios 
if you have them too tight. Try 3-3-3, banking disabled. Who 
makes the ram, and what are it's specs? Same ? for motherboard, 
PSU, video card and driver. What kernel parameters? IE, the 
append= line from lilo.conf.
 
Once again it works in Windows is a very derogatory 
statement to make about your hardware.  Please don't be offended, 
but Windoze users are the most likely to jump to wrong/worst 
conclusions, and usually are saddled with the most 
misconceptions. Even with Linux's sricter demands, most all 
problems are user  hardware  software  and lastly OS.  And 
I'll repeat, if you can't run mprime 17 overnite, your hardware 
isn't suitable for Linux use. Guess I need to add, at proper 
settings and configuration.
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Re: [newbie] gimp1-3-2.0-0.pre2.1

[Charles A Edwards]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:45:45 -0500
Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Before this i had the pre1.1 package installed and it worked fine. I did
 not un-install pre1.1 before installing pre2.1 was this the problem ?

Yes.

Check /etc/gimp/1.3 for any files labeled as .rpmnew
Rename or delete all filename and rename all filename.rpmnew to filename

 

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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Bryan Phinney]

On Monday 26 January 2004 04:54 pm, robin wrote:

 So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist.  Lucky I just bought a
 Philips CD writer.  I hear it's a PITA under Windows, but it works fine
 (if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2.

Well, your call.  I prefer to reserve my own blacklist for those that go out 
of their way to oppose Linux/Unix rather than simply not make an effort to 
support it.  There are more than enough manufacturers content to be hostile 
to Linux as it is.

Lexmark and proprietary driver/chips in printer cartridges anyone?
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Re: [newbie] gimp1-3-2.0-0.pre2.1

[Dan Gordon]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:08:42 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yes.
 
 Check /etc/gimp/1.3 for any files labeled as .rpmnew
 Rename or delete all filename and rename all filename.rpmnew to
 filename
 
 
Ok i found nothing in that dir like that but... what i found was five
whateverxxxrc files and one file named gtkrc which shows up as a c++
source file however looking in the dir of 1.2 i found that the gtkrc
file is plain text. Could this be the problem ?

TIA
Regards,
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[newbie] kdm.log messages

[Carroll Grigsby]

I installed 9.2 a week ago, keeping the old /home; the other partitions are 
all new. The past weekend was spent getting current with the updates. 
Everything seems to be working just fine. This morning I went through the log 
files. Most of them were clean, but I did find something strange in the 
kdm.log file.

It begins with a message, The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports... 
This is followed by a long list of entries of the form: Warning: Symbol map 
for key redefined. Using last definition for conflicting fields where 
key refers one of a number of keys. After each list, there is a message, 
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server. The same pattern is 
repeated a number of times. (I expect that each successive cluster marks 
another reboot, a frequent occurrence over the past week.)

XF86Config shows the following in the keyboard section:
Protocol Standard
XkbModel pc105
XKbLayout en us
XkbOptions 

I'm using a Logitech Access keyboard. It's one of those that has been tricked 
up for Windows with special keys by assigning special functions to the 
function keys; in order to have them behave as normal function keys, it is 
necessary to press a special F lock key. (Well, the price was right.)

Google revealed one similar question on the Cooker list, but there were no 
replies to it. I'm not having any problems with the keyboard, other than that 
it doesn't spell very well.

Anyone have any insight?

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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 26 January 2004 03:54 pm, robin wrote:

 Ironically, the only manufacturer I know that put Linux
 compatible on the box was LG.  Oops.

 A better way of phrasing Sansung's statement would be Almost
 all CD writers available in the market are compatible with
 Linux/Unix, but we prefer to let the guys in the Linux kernel
 development team do the hard work.

 So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist.  Lucky I just
 bought a Philips CD writer.  I hear it's a PITA under Windows,
 but it works fine (if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2.

 Sir Robin

 The only item I have that is Samsung is a 19 LCD monitor. It 
claims Linux compatiblity.  The manual that came with it has very 
verbose instructions for Xfree86 config. None were needed. I re- 
enabled Harddrake, shut down, swapped monitors and Hardrake set 
the new Samsung up.
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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[robin]

Bryan Phinney wrote:
On Monday 26 January 2004 04:54 pm, robin wrote:


So Samsung joins LG on my hardware blacklist.  Lucky I just bought a
Philips CD writer.  I hear it's a PITA under Windows, but it works fine
(if a little noisily) on Mdk 9.2.


Well, your call.  I prefer to reserve my own blacklist for those that go out 
of their way to oppose Linux/Unix rather than simply not make an effort to 
support it.  There are more than enough manufacturers content to be hostile 
to Linux as it is.
There's a difference between not supporting Linux and spreading FUD.

Lexmark and proprietary driver/chips in printer cartridges anyone?
Good example.  They sell the printers cheap to get customers hooked in 
to the cartridges. I'm about to buy an HP printer - fully 
Linux-compatible, and I can get my cartridges refilled at any stationers.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 13:01
Subject: Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?


 On Sunday 25 Jan 2004 10:13 pm, Frank Bax wrote:
  At 03:34 PM 1/25/04, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  My luck must have run out.  I spent 4 days downloading cd1,2,3 and
   installed Mandrake 9.2 with no obvious problems or errors.  3
   cheers for the Mandrake team.
  
  I installed all the programs I wanted (No networking) and did not
   use CD3. I was wondering what it is for?
 
  CD3 for installing packages contained on that cd - browse it to find
  out what they are.
  Selecting OpenOffice and a language other than US-English will
  trigger prompt for CD3.

 I tend to use it quite often, which makes me think development
 libraries.

 -- 
 Richard Urwin

Then perhaps I should look more closely, because I have some problems that
could be explained by missing libs.
Thanks for the input;
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[newbie] Virus Warning was Re: [ jEdit-users ] Status

[Richard Urwin]

 The message cannot be represented in 7-bit ASCII encoding and has
 been sent as a binary attachment.

A new virus, as of today. Rated High-Outbreak by Mcafee:
http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=descriptionvirus_k=100983

(Only affects Windows, of course.)

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Re: [newbie] Supported 802.11g wireless card on Mandrake 9.2?

[Glenn]

On Monday 26 January 2004 11:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could anyone tell me or point me to a list of 802.11g PCI wireless cards
 that are supported (without fuss) on Mandrake 9.2?

 many thanks


If you're not adverse to paying for a driver, a Google search turned up a 
30-day trial version driver ($19.95 thereafter), that claims to support 
802.11g on several manufacturers cards (at 
http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/full/downloads.php). 

I'm glad you asked the question, since I hadn't checked on support for my U.S. 
Robotics 802.11g card in the last six months or so, and had given up hope.  
I'll be downloading the 30-day trial Mandrake 9.2 RPM on the site, and trying 
it out.  Wish me luck.

Glenn

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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Tom Brinkman]

On Monday 26 January 2004 05:05 pm, robin wrote:
 Tom Brinkman wrote:
   The only item I have that is Samsung is a 19 LCD
  monitor. It claims Linux compatiblity.  The manual that came
  with it has very verbose instructions for Xfree86 config.
  None were needed. I re- enabled Harddrake, shut down, swapped
  monitors and Hardrake set the new Samsung up.

 So why does a company that advertises Linux support for one of
 its products give out a stupid press release like this?  Linux
 users are very partisan.  Advertise your product as
 Linux-compatible and, better still, provide drivers, and Linux
 users will give you priority over your competitors.

 Sir Robin

   Most Linux users (rightfully so) condemn M$ for arm twisting 
ready made vendors to only ship M$ OS's with their systems. 
That's the 2nd reason. By far the 1st is that large ready made 
(Dell, et al) vendors want to ship only Windoze, because they can 
get away with substandard, even bastard (OEM ONLY SPEC'd), and 
fake win-hardware. Plus it narrows their support field, which can 
be a sizeable cost. Also allows them to procure in much larger 
quanities, and save on volume.  What works with Windoze is often 
of such inferior quality, it won't with a real OS.

   Much the same is true for peripheal hardware vendors. It was a 
very stupid press release tho. Even bigtime vendors like Intel, 
are very quiet about the OEM ONLY motherboards they supply to 
large ready made vendors substandard SPEC's and lack of Industry 
Standards compliance. EG, the recent flap over LG. 

Dr. Tom (http://www.tomshardware.com/) and other major 
hardware Websites expoused these same views (I gained as an 
overclocker) several years ago. Till M$, Dell, et al made 'em 
shut up.  Maybe Billy Goates arm twisted Samsung?
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Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

[Richard Urwin]

On Monday 26 Jan 2004 9:50 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 13:01
 Subject: Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

  On Sunday 25 Jan 2004 10:13 pm, Frank Bax wrote:
   At 03:34 PM 1/25/04, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
   My luck must have run out.  I spent 4 days downloading cd1,2,3
and installed Mandrake 9.2 with no obvious problems or errors. 
3 cheers for the Mandrake team.
   
   I installed all the programs I wanted (No networking) and did
not use CD3. I was wondering what it is for?
  
   CD3 for installing packages contained on that cd - browse it to
   find out what they are.
   Selecting OpenOffice and a language other than US-English will
   trigger prompt for CD3.
 
  I tend to use it quite often, which makes me think development
  libraries.
 
  --
  Richard Urwin

 Then perhaps I should look more closely, because I have some problems
 that could be explained by missing libs.
 Thanks for the input;
 Hoyt

Development libraries are only used when you're compiling from source, 
and 99% of the time you're aware when you're doing that. (Installing 
the Nvidea driver springs to mind as a counter-example.)

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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

[Richard Urwin]

On Monday 26 Jan 2004 11:05 pm, robin wrote:
 So why does a company that advertises Linux support for one of its
 products give out a stupid press release like this?  Linux users are
 very partisan.  Advertise your product as Linux-compatible and,
 better still, provide drivers, and Linux users will give you priority
 over your competitors.

From the way the website works I'd say the monitor makers and the card 
makers are in two different divisions. In a company that size it'd be a 
suprise if they talked to each other, much less agreed.

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Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?

[Bryan Phinney]

On Monday 26 January 2004 05:44 pm, marc resnick wrote:

 Brian,
 These possibilities seem probably, thank you for your help. My
 router(192.168.1.1) is a Linksys, if that helps at all. In the
 administrative settings, I go to DHCP. I see no option to start with static
 IPs, nor do I see it in any other category. Would it go by some technical
 word that I'm unaware of?

There are a number of Linksys routers, you might want to be more specific.  I 
don't have a Linksys myself so I would need to check the documentation in the 
manual to suggest where you might find the settings.

The other method involves doing a hard reset to restore the router to factory 
default settings.  There is usually a reset button on router devices that you 
press by inserting a pin or needle into the small hole.  If you hold it 
pressed down for 30 seconds or so, the router should reset to factory 
defaults.  If that fixes the problem, you can then go back in and input 
settings again being careful to pay attention to the configuration.

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Re: [newbie] McBride: open-source software threatens the U.S. IT industry

[Bryan Phinney]

On Monday 26 January 2004 06:31 pm, Paul wrote:

 The reasons for the case not being heard was:

 1. IBM asked for more time (SCO)
 2. mutually agreed (SCOs second response), or
 3. SCO asked for more time (IBM)

I suspect that the truth is that both asked for more time, SCO because it has 
already admittedly failed to comply totally with the motion to compel and IBM 
because they are still busy going through the responses to point out to the 
Judge where the answers are still incomplete.
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Re: [newbie] new and updated

[Lanman]

Charles; Been there, done that! Thanks!

Lanman

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On 1/26/2004 at 1:13 PM Charles A Edwards wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:18:38 -0500
Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks. Urpmi and I are old friends, so no problem
there.
 Just wanted to know about the FTP option.

Had not thought about before someone asked off list but if
you want
copies of all the rpms locally you can use wget the mirror
the site

wget --mirror --include-directories=/9.2 www.eslrahc.com


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Re: [newbie] My network hates Linux ='(...how can I fix this?

[marc resnick]

On Monday 26 January 2004 08:10 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Monday 26 January 2004 05:44 pm, marc resnick wrote:
  Brian,
  These possibilities seem probably, thank you for your help. My
  router(192.168.1.1) is a Linksys, if that helps at all. In the
  administrative settings, I go to DHCP. I see no option to start with
  static IPs, nor do I see it in any other category. Would it go by some
  technical word that I'm unaware of?

 There are a number of Linksys routers, you might want to be more specific. 
 I don't have a Linksys myself so I would need to check the documentation in
 the manual to suggest where you might find the settings.

 The other method involves doing a hard reset to restore the router to
 factory default settings.  There is usually a reset button on router
 devices that you press by inserting a pin or needle into the small hole. 
 If you hold it pressed down for 30 seconds or so, the router should reset
 to factory defaults.  If that fixes the problem, you can then go back in
 and input settings again being careful to pay attention to the
 configuration.

The linksys is a BEFW11S4, a Wireless-B Broadband Router. I'll try the hard 
reset, and get back to you on that.


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Re: [newbie] Supported 802.11g wireless card on Mandrake 9.2?

[Glenn]

On Monday 26 January 2004 17:06, Glenn wrote:

 I'm glad you asked the question, since I hadn't checked on support for my
 U.S. Robotics 802.11g card in the last six months or so, and had given up
 hope. I'll be downloading the 30-day trial Mandrake 9.2 RPM on the site,
 and trying it out.  Wish me luck.

 Glenn

The Mandrake RPM installed fine, but it looks like I'll need to toy with it a 
bit.  Haven't found any way to tweak WEP (either on or off so far, but no way 
to enter my passphrase), and haven't taken a real close look at the separate 
WPA support driver yet).

Glenn

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[newbie] 9.2 urpmi db behaviour questions

[Angus Auld]

Greetings, I have 9.2 installed and updated/config'd 
for the most part. It was a looong weekend downloading 
all the updates on my dialup. ;-)

I seem to be encountering something that seems odd 
with the urpmi db. There are some packages listed as 
installable, which I know are already installed. The 
packages show as being 0bytes in size. Anyone know 
what is going on here? I have tried rebuilding the the 
db with rpm --rebuilddb.

Also, concerning urpmi. I get the following warning 
everytime I install a software package with urpmi:
There was a problem during the installation:
medium contrib uses an invalid list file:
mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying 
to use alternate method.

If I just click OK, the installation goes fine. I tried 
deleting my contrib source and using a different one, 
but the same warning keeps appearing. Anyone else 
having this happen? What might I try to fix it?

TIA for your time/help.
Best regards.

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Re: [newbie] Installing Mandrake Help

[Rude Boy]

Hi Erylon,
You seem like you know pretty much XFree86.
I was hoping that you might help me. I just install MDK 9.2 download
edition. Every thing went ok. I change some setting in Gnome Desktop GUI.
One day, I tried to boot - like everynight - until I get this:
[...]
Could not open default font 'fixed'
[...]

I want it to report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but can't even get in my linux to
get the '/var/log/xfree86.0.log' and mail it. One good thing is that I can
still have a prompt usr or root.
Can you give a advice to fixe the problem? Should I tried to do '$
xf86config'?
TIA.
Song


- Original Message - 
From: Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing Mandrake Help


 On Sunday 25 January 2004 08:31 pm, Josh Peters wrote:
  Ok, here's what I have so far.
  I installed mandrake 9.2 (my original cd was bad, had no problem with
the
  second copy)
  When I boot the hd now, linux runs through the startup process, the
monitor
  seems to go through a test, flashing 3 times or so, and it asks for a
  localhost login:
 
  Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586
  Kernal 2.4.22-10mdk on an i686 / tty1
  localhost login:
 
  I type my username and password and get to a command line.  I type
startx
  and it scrolls a couple of screens of settings or something.  It gets to
a
  monitor sequence (svga, different resolutions, etc.) then stops, giving
me
  the following:
 
  Fatal server error:
  No valid modes found

 Your XServer is either not installed, or is seriously misconfigured.  Did
you
 choose the proper Vid card and resolution during system setup?  There is a
 screen near the end of setup with a list of hardware found on your
computer
 where you can check to see if what the install thinks you have is actually
 your hardware, and that it actually works.  Anyway, something is messed
up,
 so log in as root, and at the command line, type xf86config without
the
 quotes.  You will need to know your Vid Card and amount of vid memory, and
 your monitor's horizontal and vertical refresh rates, and you will also
have
 to reconfigure the mouse and keyboard.  Since you are configuring X via
the
 command line, I would suggest using a lower res at first, say 800 x 600
and
 16 bit color.  After you get X working, you can change whatever you need
to
 via the Mandrake Control Center.  xf86config will allow you to choose your
 video server (driver), memory, refresh rates, monitor resolution, etc.
TEST
 before accepting!
 One thing about it, at least you'll see what is going on behind all the
 graphical tools Mandrake uses.
 Later, you can reboot with disk1, and this time choose Upgrade.  When
you
 get to the package choice section, be sure Workstation, Multimedia
 Computer, Game Station, Development, and Other Graphical Desktops
are
 all chosen.  Check the Individual Package Selection at the bottom, and
 browse the lists (you'll see a lot of programs).  Check anything you might
be
 interested in (Pysol in Games and xfce in Other Graphical Desktops,
for
 instance).  The default install leaves out quite a lot of stuff that I
 use--if you are going to learn Linux, you definitely will need the
 Developmental Packages.
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Re: [newbie] Supported 802.11g wireless card on Mandrake 9.2?

[Greg Meyer]

On Monday 26 January 2004 07:06 pm, Glenn wrote:
 On Monday 26 January 2004 11:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Could anyone tell me or point me to a list of 802.11g PCI wireless cards
  that are supported (without fuss) on Mandrake 9.2?
 
  many thanks

 If you're not adverse to paying for a driver, a Google search turned up a
 30-day trial version driver ($19.95 thereafter), that claims to support
 802.11g on several manufacturers cards (at
 http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/full/downloads.php).

 I'm glad you asked the question, since I hadn't checked on support for my
 U.S. Robotics 802.11g card in the last six months or so, and had given up
 hope. I'll be downloading the 30-day trial Mandrake 9.2 RPM on the site,
 and trying it out.  Wish me luck.

This isn't a driver per say, but a wrapper that allows you to use your WinXP 
driver in Linux.  There is a free (GPL'd) version of this that works with 
some cards at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
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Re: [newbie] Standard Installation

[Rude Boy]

1. I think the standard folder for new programm is 
/usr/local. But I could be anywhere that make sens.
2. Yes, you need to bee root to install in the 
/usr/local/ folder. If you don't want that, you could make a dir in place where 
as a usr you have permission.
HTH.
Song

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andr Tapxure Gabriel 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:03 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] Standard 
  Installation
  
  Hi there!
  
  I was trying to install Netscape 7.1 and when the 
  installation program asked in what directory the software should be installed, 
  it automatically sugested to install in /usr/local/netscape and I answered 
  YES!. The system informed that I have no permission to create this 
  directory... In this minute, some questions poped-up in my 
mind...
  
  1 - What is the standard directory that I have to 
  install the softwares? Like "c:\Program Files" in the winsux?
  2 - I have to give root powers to my user to 
  install this programs or log as root and install them?
  
  Thanks
  Andr Tapxure
  

Re: [newbie] MOHAA Linux Client

[RickS]

On Sunday 25 January 2004 11:31 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:22:47 -0600

 Troy T. Hall disseminated the following:
  ok wait, I'm confused, are you telling me i can take my pc version of
  MOHAA and install it under X?

 Well, you need to install MOHAA on Windows, then copy the data files over,
 or install it using WineX, then just untar and copy the Linux binaries into
 the root dir.

 There's no 'installer', but it's easy to do.
Hey Joe .. thx again ...  
Wow!  what a difference 8-)
Cant wait till the sound works better.
I even found Freespace 2 installer  Kewl ! 
8-) 
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Re: [newbie] Supported 802.11g wireless card on Mandrake 9.2?

[Glenn]

On Monday 26 January 2004 19:45, Greg Meyer wrote:


 This isn't a driver per say, but a wrapper that allows you to use your
 WinXP driver in Linux.  There is a free (GPL'd) version of this that works
 with some cards at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/

You're right.  That's something I discovered after I explored a bit more.  
I'll check out the link you mentioned.


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Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 18:16
Subject: Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?


 On Monday 26 Jan 2004 9:50 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 13:01
  Subject: Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?
 
   On Sunday 25 Jan 2004 10:13 pm, Frank Bax wrote:
At 03:34 PM 1/25/04, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 Development libraries are only used when you're compiling from source,
 and 99% of the time you're aware when you're doing that. (Installing
 the Nvidea driver springs to mind as a counter-example.)


Which brings to mind another question.  If the directories are on cd how
will I be able to compile SRPMS or tarballs?  Is this dependency hell?
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Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 15:58
Subject: Re: [newbie] What is CD3 for?

Thanks to everyone who answered this question.  You were all right.  The
variety of answers caused me to print a list of files on each disk,  and it
does contain what you all said.  IE.  Development files, Local language
files,  Open Office, Miscellaneous Files.

Should anyone want copies I have the 3 disk rpm filenames in abiword (abw)
format and will send them to you off list if you ask [disk1 17pgs, disk 2
17pgs, disk 3 25pgs].

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Re: [newbie] cdrecord not!

[Terence Golightly]

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 12:13, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Monday 26 January 2004 04:36 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
  cd to directory source of iso file
  cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -pad -data -eject -ignsize  iso
  file
 
  John
 
 That's be OK for data CD's, but *without* -ignsize !! 
 For bootable iso's, remove -pad -data and -ignsize, and add -dao
 
 cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -eject -dao  iso file
 
 (from 'man cdrecord) -ignsize
Ignore the known size of the medium. This options should be 
 used with extreme care, it exists only for debugging purposes  
 don't use it for other reasons.  It is not needed to write disks 
 with more than the nominal capacity.  This option implies  
 -overburn.   
 Which is always a bad idea and rarely works anyhow.
 
 So that's an uneeded, very bad idea.  A simple CL for burning 
 bootable iso's is   
   cdrecord -v -eject speed=?? dev=?,?,? -dao iso file
 
Tom and John, 

I like to use a gui myself thats why my original post mentioned
gcombust. So just unchecking the -padding -swab audio and -ignore size
keeping -dao should allow me to burn a bootable cdrom.  Does this mean
that I don't have to check eltorrito selection and specify a boot image
and catalog file (whatever that is) on the options tab of gcombust? 

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] kdm.log messages

[mike]

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
I installed 9.2 a week ago, keeping the old /home; the other partitions are 
all new. The past weekend was spent getting current with the updates. 
Everything seems to be working just fine. This morning I went through the log 
files. Most of them were clean, but I did find something strange in the 
kdm.log file.

It begins with a message, The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports... 
This is followed by a long list of entries of the form: Warning: Symbol map 
for key redefined. Using last definition for conflicting fields where 
key refers one of a number of keys. After each list, there is a message, 
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server. The same pattern is 
repeated a number of times. (I expect that each successive cluster marks 
another reboot, a frequent occurrence over the past week.)

XF86Config shows the following in the keyboard section:
Protocol Standard
XkbModel pc105
XKbLayout en us
XkbOptions 
I'm using a Logitech Access keyboard. It's one of those that has been tricked 
up for Windows with special keys by assigning special functions to the 
function keys; in order to have them behave as normal function keys, it is 
necessary to press a special F lock key. (Well, the price was right.)

Google revealed one similar question on the Cooker list, but there were no 
replies to it. I'm not having any problems with the keyboard, other than that 
it doesn't spell very well.

Anyone have any insight?
Hi Carroll, I have the same errors as you and I have a old acer 104 
keyboard. I did not have those errors in mdk9.1 (same keyboard), 
have been trying to figure it out but no luck so far. I have not 
seen any ill effects other than the output of consol F1.
Would like to know why, and how to fix it though.



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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[David E. Fox]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:53:46 +
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Now one might be thinking that this indicates that there is a faulty 
 CPU(Athlon 1800)
 but for the fact that W2k and Gordian knot can run my FSB-133 setting 

Hmm. Not quite sure. I'd think the bus setting and maybe RAM - mprime is
going to work the RAM pretty heavy (so will gcc). mencoder does work ram
somewhat, but I would think it fairly sequential in access patterns.
Think a bit to what it's doing - grabbing a frame from a media,
analyzing the frame, going 2D through the frame looking at it and doing
a lot of transforms, conversions, and so forth, and throwing the results
into another file. A good portion of the time it's communicating with
the disk as well. Unless you're doing something really intensive with
mencoder, it's not going to stress the comp nearly as much as mprime
will. Gordian knot (I've never used it) might actually not use as much
of the CPU on Windows as a similar program would on Linux.


 and installed in W2K and run the test again from there. But for now
 food for thought.

I got that one for my brother's other CPU, a PIII/700 model that he's
been using Windows on for years (now he has also a Pentium 4). The thing
failed the test, amazingly enough. But he'll probably never switch to
linux :(.

I really don't think it's an interaction with the CPU and with Linux. If
the bus is running at 100mhz fsb, it's the same cpu when it's run at
133. My guess that it might be a bridge or RAM issue. Have you tried
other memory-intensive things - like 'make -j 100' in /usr/src/linux?
(That's a joke -- actually don't go that high, unless you have *gobs* of
RAM. I have 256 megs, and I did a make -j 25 once. It worked, amazingly
enough.)


 John


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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[David E. Fox]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:16:49 -0600
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mandrake makes my  XP 3000+ (overclocked to over 3200+, 171Mhz 
 FSB, ram at DDR 419) absolutely *FLY*.  Mencoder or Trancode is 

(drool)



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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[David E. Fox]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:12:37 -0600
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 computer, but since mprime is nice'd it will defer to any other 
 processes. So for best results, let it go overnite while you're 

How useful is that on a fairly active system? Say one running [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and other background tasks? One would think that if mprime isn't getting
enough CPU cycles, it's not going to be able to stress the computer as
much. Ditto for cpuburn.

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Re: [newbie] kdm.log messages

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Monday 26 January 2004 10:37 pm, mike wrote:
 Carroll Grigsby wrote:

 snip

 Hi Carroll, I have the same errors as you and I have a old acer 104
 keyboard. I did not have those errors in mdk9.1 (same keyboard),
 have been trying to figure it out but no luck so far. I have not
 seen any ill effects other than the output of consol F1.
 Would like to know why, and how to fix it though.

Mike:
Thanks. As you say, I haven't had any problems with the keyboard, but the 
messages struck me as odd.
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Re: [newbie] gimp 2.0pre1 compilation

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:40:34 -0800
David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It wasn't really a dependency issue but there was 1.2 and 1.3 stuff
 side by side, so I figure the prudent approach was to back out both
 versions and then try and put them back in later. But next I'm going

Following up:

I pulled down 2.0pre2 source from sourceforge last night, and started
the compile. The compile did not run to completion, there were some
unresolved externals during the building - specifically related to
libfontconfig  libpangoxft.

Specifically:

/libgimpbase/.libs/libgimpbase-1.3.so
../../libgimpcolor/.libs/libgimpcolor-1.3.so
../../libgimpbase/.libs/libgimpbase-1.3.so /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so
/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so -lm /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so -ldl
/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined reference to
`FT_Get_PS_Font_Info'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Stream_GetShort'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to
`FT_Stream_ExitFrame'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Stream_GetLong'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Stream_Seek'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Next_Char'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to
`FT_Stream_EnterFrame'
/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined reference to
`FT_Get_BDF_Property'
/usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_First_Char'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [dbbrowser] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gimp-2.0pre2/plug-ins/dbbrowser'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gimp-2.0pre2/plug-ins'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/gimp-2.0pre2'
make: *** [all] Error 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gimp-2.0pre2]# 

I also pulled down the relevant athlon rpms, from ftp.ibiblio.org. First
time I looked, it was buried and I didn't spot it. All better now :).
But, when I try to invoke these, I still get a sigill. And I am not sure
my Athlon is really an Athlon, or maybe the Thunderbird lacks some
instructions that have a XP core in them. (Mine's a 1000 mhz part.)

Specifically, it got part of the way running some test things and then
crashed. I recreated the session in gdp and did a dissassemble and came
up with this:

Dump of assembler code from 0x81bd3bb to 0x81bd3fb:
0x081bd3bb gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+27:  je 0x81bd3c7
gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+39
0x081bd3bd gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+29:  mov(%ebx),%edx
0x081bd3bf gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+31:  test   %edx,%edx
0x081bd3c1 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+33:  je 0x81bd3c7
gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+39
0x081bd3c3 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+35:  cmp%eax,(%edx)
0x081bd3c5 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+37:  je 0x81bd3db
gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+59
0x081bd3c7 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+39:  mov%eax,0x4(%esp,1)
0x081bd3cb gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+43:  mov%ebx,(%esp,1)
0x081bd3ce gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+46:  call   0x8081328
0x081bd3d3 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+51:  test   %eax,%eax
0x081bd3d5 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+53:  je 0x81bd462
gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+194
0x081bd3db gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+59:  movss  0x82e0d94,%xmm0
0x081bd3e3 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+67:  movss 
0x24(%esp,1),%xmm2
0x081bd3e9 gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+73:  movaps %xmm0,%xmm1
0x081bd3ec gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio+76:  comiss %xmm0,%xmm2

These movaps and comiss instructions are some that I've never seen
before. hhere's also movss and maxss instructions in that code snippet.


gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no -mmx -sse -sse2 -3dnow -altivec -vis

Are these options correct for my system? 'mmx' and '3dnow' likely are,
but what about the others? Charles wanna rebuild one for me? 

Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
[Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 29173)]
---Type return to continue, or q return to quit---
0x081bd3db in gtk_wrap_box_set_aspect_ratio ()


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Re: [newbie] Installing Mandrake Help

[Josh Peters]

Woohoo!  Got it up and running!!  I just had to spend about an hour trying
different configurations until I got it right.  Now I need a better
monitor...
Thanks everyone for pointing me in directions to find clues.  Ended up being
just experimenting tho.  Heh.


 From: Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:29:30 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing Mandrake Help
 
 On Sunday 25 January 2004 09:00 pm, Josh Peters wrote:
 Oh yeah, I still have the exact same error.
 
 Sorry, you're farther along than I thought (ignore my last post).  S3's can be
 problematic--been there, done that.  In fact, I just went through this with a
 Savage card on a laptop, which I got working with the Xfree 4.3 server.  I
 would start trying different S3 cards, testing each one as I go.  One of the
 combinations will probably work, provided the monitor refresh rates are
 close.  From the below, it appears that XFree86 4.3 is the server you will
 need to use (probably has some fixes for this card).
 
 Anyway, this from the Twiki:
 
 Video: S3 Trio 3D/2X (86C368) in AGP card, 4 on board mem chips (IIUC) labeled
 KT3617161B -7 9913 (Googled, couldn't find information to identify the size..)
 _When I installed Mandrake 9.1, the chip set was apparently not recognized,
 and the XFree 3.6 X system was installed. Looking further, the card seems to
 be recognized as Custom, maybe because it's on an AGP card? Anyway, I
 (somehow) manually installed XFree 4.3, and (IIRC) with 4 MB of memory ‹
 seems to work fine, looks like I can go up to at least 1280x960, maybe
 further. (Some identifying marks on the card, which did not help me locate it
 via Google: 9-0610/56-135037, VA-S3 TRIO 3D, 29109909024990.)
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Fun and Totally useless.

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:49:12 -0500
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I just discovered this, apologies if it's old news.
 

I figured out what is done to get the cow to say quotes:

$ cowsay `/usr/games/fortune` 

:)

  
/ There are two ways to write error-free \
\ programs; only the third one works./
  
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Re: [newbie] cinelerra is ill

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:29:15 -0200
Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes, as you said, it's not easy and the output text is very long
 indeed. I selected some lines which I thought were worth showing.

You may find that the output is similar to that of a lot of programs
since the libraries are looked for in a large number of places. If they
are not found, you get ENOENT (file not found) and the loader looks for
it somewhere else. What you probably snipped is the startup, which is
not as useful as the stuff near where the error occurred. For a
compicated file, the strace can be very voluminous. You can also try
running it inside a gdb. 

And yes, posting to the cinelerra list may be a better idea - you'll
probably be able to get more help. I'm not in any way trying to suggest
it's off topic, but it does make sense to ask communities where you
might be able to get more help. For instance, I could ask a New Yorker
in the middle of Central Park how to get to Wall Street and get a good
answer. But I could ask a taxi driver and I might even get a better one.

Hmm. I might follow my own advice and ask about some gimp problems on
the gimp-users list. :)





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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

[David E. Fox]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:40:51 +0200
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Transcode is the best (about the only one) but it ain't easy.

You've just been awarded the Understatement of the Year award. :)

It's more complicated it seems than mencoder. But once you find a stanza
that works, you can put it in a script or an alias. But it taks
experimenting, and many hours (unless you just encode a small number of
frames). It's tough to sit for 5 or more hours to find that you ended up
forgetting to encode the audio :( twice :( :( and you've been successful
doing it with other DVDs.

Of course, you can use a graphical wrapper (gtranscode / gmencoder).
Sometimes I use DVD:Rip, but I think that's doing more work than needed
to get acceptable quality. It's also slower. If you look, you discover
that there are usually 10 instances of transcode and helper things
(tccat) running during a DVD:rip. That seems too complicated IMHO.

I found mencvcd, just trying it now with a DVD. A couple fits  starts,
but we'll see what the results give. 

 There are also  Mandrake rpm available (are they on the cd's?).

Probably you want them off a plf mirror.
 
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Re: [newbie] MOHAA Linux Client

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 25 January 2004 11:31 pm, JoeHill wrote:
-On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:22:47 -0600
-Troy T. Hall disseminated the following:
-
- ok wait, I'm confused, are you telling me i can take my pc version of
 MOHAA - and install it under X?
-
-Well, you need to install MOHAA on Windows, then copy the data files over,
 or -install it using WineX, then just untar and copy the Linux binaries
 into the -root dir.
-
-There's no 'installer', but it's easy to do.
-

Hmm, I'm running MOHAA, and I didn't use WineX or Windoze... I used this 
installer:

http://www.icculus.org/~ravage/mohaa/

and although it took awhile, (and I've not been playing the game long - just 
got it yesterday) it seems to work pretty good. Note this installer is for 
the US version only.

PS Did anyone else have fun/trouble trying to lob the damn grenade into the 
last box/target during training? Sheesh... :-)

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Re: [newbie] Fun and Totally useless.

[Aron Smith]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:00:13 -0800
David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:49:12 -0500
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[ 
[ I just discovered this, apologies if it's old news.
[ 
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[I figured out what is done to get the cow to say quotes:
[
[$ cowsay `/usr/games/fortune`
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How do you use the alternate cows ? 
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Re: [newbie] Installing Mandrake Help

[Erylon Hines]

On Monday 26 January 2004 06:43 pm, Rude Boy wrote:
 Hi Erylon,
 You seem like you know pretty much XFree86.
 I was hoping that you might help me. I just install MDK 9.2 download
 edition. Every thing went ok. I change some setting in Gnome Desktop GUI.
 One day, I tried to boot - like everynight - until I get this:
 [...]
 Could not open default font 'fixed'
 [...]

 I want it to report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but can't even get in my linux
 to get the '/var/log/xfree86.0.log' and mail it. One good thing is that I
 can still have a prompt usr or root.
 Can you give a advice to fixe the problem? Should I tried to do '$
 xf86config'?
 TIA.
 Song

This may help you:

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue93/yuan.html



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