[newbie] signature script comes out weird

[jason pearl]

whenever i try to use a script it puts my sig in one continuous line. is
there a reason it does this?
i have the same script as before, it is just copied.

it comes out like this

jason pearl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>++"Keep your friends
closeandyourenemiescloser"-Tupac++KurruptedVisionzPhx,AZregisteredlinux
 user #307811MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine#193475,227341AMD64 Opteron 1.6   
http://counter.li.orgASUS SK8N


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++
"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"-Tupac  
++
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MDK 9.2 LinuxMachine# 193475, 227341
AMD64 Opteron 1.6http://counter.li.org
ASUS SK8N


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [newbie] wma to mp3

[anton]

Aaron wrote:

I was surprised to find that Audacity did not have that ability.


Don't be suprised wma and mp3 are lossy compression methods and it is 
highly unrecommended to go from  compressed to compressed format. I do 
remember an application that does this but results will vary and if you 
can find a cd audio file or a wave its the best. Also see if Sox will do 
the conversion.
Aaron

IIRC you need to go to WAV first, and then to MP3. I remember a thread 
about going from OGG to mp3 and the consensus was that even apps that 
said they went direct actually just had a WAV step that wasn't shown to 
the user.

The above advice is good though, as lossy to lossy will result in 
lossy^2, which is never a good thing :-0
Cheers
Anton

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Re: [newbie] I want to create a dual boot. Anyone kind enough to advise me?

[anton]

2) The Windows boot manager is dumb and will overwrite your LILO mbr.  To get 
back into Linux to reinstall LILO, you should create a boot disk (making sure 
you can actually boot from it), install windows and let it overwrite the mbr, 
and then boot from the floppy and then by going to drakboot and adding a 
windows choice to the LILO boot menu.
IIRC then there is an option on disk one (just leave it in the cd drive) 
to reinstall LILO. So you could just install doze and then pop disk one 
in, reinstall lilo and forget the nightmare of trying to make a boot 
disk (for 9.1, I admit it is no prob, but 9.2...arrrggghhh, anyway, that 
has already been caned enough...)
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[David E. Fox]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:46:31 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> one compiles , chopped up into sections for each section it's
> compiling and then the make has to be reassembled, the mind boddles at
> the prospect.

Well, it could do it for subdirectories. If you look at big source
trees, you see that much of the code is in subdirectories upon
subdirectories etc - a big tree. Start at the top level (/usr/src/linux,
for instance) and then do a 'make' in each subdirectory, all at the same
time (as long as some directory or other doesn't depend on other
results). Even something like 'make /usr/src/linux' (and many other
source trees) starts off doing a "top-level" make that in turn invokes
another make in the subdirectory, which in turn spawns other makes (and
compiles, of course) in those subordinate directories.

It may look mindboggling, but it's perfectly normal to have a dozen or
so copies of make all running. Of course they're not *all* running at
the same time (unless -j is used) but they take up some memory space. If
there's sufficient ram, it's a faster way to do it than to simply issue
a new make step for each source file in a serial fashion. It also makes
sense given a heirarchical setup.


> John Richard Smith
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: "SÃren Neigaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 16:27
Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE


> You are not assuming too much, I am running KDE.
>
> My security level is standard.
>
> I tried the terminal thing, no success.
>
> When you say I should check permissions, what do you mean? What should
> they be? Right now everything under /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver has:
> -rwxr-xr-x
>
> Anything else I should try?
>
> Best regards
> SÃren
>
> On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 21:39, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Thursday 29 January 2004 1:14 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> > > Tried both, did not help :( Wonder whats wrong, how can it work as
> > > root??
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > SÃren
> > >
> > Too weird. You have screen savers when you're logged in as root?
Something you
> > should never do under any circumstances BTW, at least not on a networked
> > system.
> >
> > If they work as root but not as user then you'll definitely have to
check
> > permissions as someone previously suggested. What security level did you
> > install at?
> >
> > Keep trying and meantime post your security level so the list knows
whether
> > you've actually restricted yourself out of the proper groups for such
things.
> >
> > A final thought; instead of running as root open a terminal then, as
super
> > user, type:
> >
> > kcontrol [Enter]
> >
> > Set the screen savers, backgrounds, power control whatever, and then log
out
> > of the terminal, log out your user identity, then log back in. You may
get
> > lucky even if the permissions are set too high. This is all based on the
> > assumption you're running KDE as your desktop manager. I hope I'm not
> > assuming too much here. If so ignore me.
> >
> > Let the list know?
> >
> > Regards;
> > Charlie
>
There is another permission level deffination
-rwxr-xr-x  root  root   probably I would change the second root to user and
if necessary add your users to group user.  I dont know the commands to do
this however.
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Re: [newbie] What is wrong with this article?

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 03:43 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:40:03 +
>
> Richard Urwin disseminated the following:
> > > Let me count the ways...
> >
> > Wow.
> > I think your letter of complaint would probably end up being about three
> > times the size of the article.
>
> Got a reply, guy is obviously up against the wall on this one. My responses
> to his unrepentant journalistic ineptitude are included:
>
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:45:16 +1100
>
> Garry BARKER disseminated the following:
> > It is interesting that it has stirred considerable reaction from the
> > Linux community which, to a man/woman among those who have emailed us,
> > assert that not a single user/developer of Linux could possibly even
> > imagine doing a DDoS attack on SCO.
>
> I made no such assertion. And if you are getting this kind of reaction, as
> you say, maybe, just maybe, could it be because you made errors in your
> reporting, errors that have an affect on the reputation of the Open Source
> community?
>
> > Yet the international press is full of such speculation
>
> Exactly. *Speculation*. Your 'article' included this statement:
>
> "Hacker activists in the Linux software community have been blamed for
> MyDoom-A"
>
> Blamed by whom? What sources are you basing this statement on? No one has
> presented one bit of evidence that MyDoom is the product of some misguided
> Linux fanatic. In fact, there is some evidence to the contrary, as pointed
> out in the Atlanta Journal article:
>
> "Experts say the creation of MyDoom was almost certainly funded by e-mail
> spammers. The worm takes possession of a computer -- either at a home or
> one used in business -- and turns the machine into a remotely controlled
> robot programmed to send spam e-mail messages."
>
> > for the perhaps overly simple reason that MyDoom-A carries DDoS bomb
> > aimed at SCO.
>
> *Perhaps* 'overly simple'? Don't underestimate the lack of depth in your
> reporting, please.
>
> > Your example of "how journalism should work" is, of course, selected to
> > suit your argument, and you are entitled to put such an example forward.
> > You could also have quoted the Houston Chronicle, but not the New York
> > Times or the Mercury News of San Jose, nor yet a number of internet
> > security companies who were making the claim.
>
> I have yet to see *one* report from any outlet that portrays the MyDoom
> situation in as simplistic, skewed, and shallow writing as is demonstrated
> in your article. Not one I have seen has in any way directly linked the
> MyDoom worm with indignant Linux hackers. If you would be so kind as to
> provide actual links, or examples of these 'security companies who were
> making the claim'. Come to think of it, that would have been a nice
> addition to your article, not to mention a part of basic journalistic
> practice.
>
> Here are some links I found which do not seem to focus on the 'speculation'
> about the involvement of the Linux community at all, or which identify it
> as such, merely speculation, not blame.
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17501941
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114460,00.asp
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/27/scitech/pcanswer/main596054.shtml
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[newbie] How to modify lilo.conf for new kernal

[Lee B.]

I've updated my kernal to kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm per the
instructions on Mandrakes website, but I don't understand what to change
in lilo.conf. The new kernal has an entry at the bottom, but I need help
making that one the "linux" selection. And... do I keep all the lines in
the new kernal section (including "optional")? Thanks!

/etc/lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default="linux"
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="linux"
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht"
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="failsafe"
root=/dev/hda5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append="failsafe devfs=nomount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht"
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label="windows"
table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/fd0
label="floppy"
unsafe

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-26mdk
label=2422-26
root=/dev/hda5
read-only
optional
vga=normal
append=" devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht"
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.22-26mdk.img

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[newbie] Stolen SCO Code in Linux Cannot be Displayed

[Glenn]

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2004-01-29-021-26-OP-CY


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Re: [newbie] What is wrong with this article?

[Richard Urwin]

On Thursday 29 Jan 2004 11:43 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> Garry BARKER disseminated the following:
> > It is interesting that it has stirred considerable reaction from
> > the Linux community which, to a man/woman among those who have
> > emailed us, assert that not a single user/developer of Linux could
> > possibly even imagine doing a DDoS attack on SCO.

Yeah, and maybe if you had accused Womens Institute of being behind it 
you would have got the same response from them. What does that mean?

 save us from unrepentant morons.

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Re: [newbie] What is wrong with this article?

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:40:03 +
Richard Urwin disseminated the following:

> > Let me count the ways...
> 
> Wow.
> I think your letter of complaint would probably end up being about three 
> times the size of the article.

Got a reply, guy is obviously up against the wall on this one. My responses to
his unrepentant journalistic ineptitude are included:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:45:16 +1100
Garry BARKER disseminated the following:

> It is interesting that it has stirred considerable reaction from the Linux
> community which, to a man/woman among those who have emailed us, assert that
> not a single user/developer of Linux could possibly even imagine doing a DDoS
> attack on SCO.

I made no such assertion. And if you are getting this kind of reaction, as you
say, maybe, just maybe, could it be because you made errors in your reporting,
errors that have an affect on the reputation of the Open Source community?

> Yet the international press is full of such speculation

Exactly. *Speculation*. Your 'article' included this statement:

"Hacker activists in the Linux software community have been blamed for MyDoom-A"
 
Blamed by whom? What sources are you basing this statement on? No one has
presented one bit of evidence that MyDoom is the product of some misguided Linux
fanatic. In fact, there is some evidence to the contrary, as pointed out in the
Atlanta Journal article:

"Experts say the creation of MyDoom was almost certainly funded by e-mail
spammers. The worm takes possession of a computer -- either at a home or one
used in business -- and turns the machine into a remotely controlled robot
programmed to send spam e-mail messages."

> for the perhaps overly simple reason that MyDoom-A carries DDoS bomb aimed at
> SCO.

*Perhaps* 'overly simple'? Don't underestimate the lack of depth in your
reporting, please.

> Your example of "how journalism should work" is, of course, selected to
> suit your argument, and you are entitled to put such an example forward. You
> could also have quoted the Houston Chronicle, but not the New York Times or
> the Mercury News of San Jose, nor yet a number of internet security companies
> who were making the claim.

I have yet to see *one* report from any outlet that portrays the MyDoom
situation in as simplistic, skewed, and shallow writing as is demonstrated in
your article. Not one I have seen has in any way directly linked the MyDoom
worm with indignant Linux hackers. If you would be so kind as to provide actual
links, or examples of these 'security companies who were making the claim'. Come
to think of it, that would have been a nice addition to your article, not to
mention a part of basic journalistic practice.

Here are some links I found which do not seem to focus on the 'speculation'
about the involvement of the Linux community at all, or which identify it as
such, merely speculation, not blame.

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17501941

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114460,00.asp

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/27/scitech/pcanswer/main596054.shtml

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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Charlie Mahan]

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Hash: SHA1

Thursday 29 January 2004 3:27 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> You are not assuming too much, I am running KDE.
>
> My security level is standard.
>
> I tried the terminal thing, no success.

That's a fairly broad statement. Do you mean that you couldn't open the KDE 
Control Centre that way, that you had no screen savers to choose from, or 
that it didn't help?

> When you say I should check permissions, what do you mean? What should
> they be? Right now everything under /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver has:
> -rwxr-xr-x

Yeah OK, but the configuration files aren't in /usr/X11R6 they're in /etc/X11.

> Anything else I should try?
>
> Best regards
> SÃren
>
I'm fighting to try to install cooker on this old relic at the moment, but 
I'll keep checking back here as I'm able. Hopefully one of the others will 
jump back in to try to help as well. I'm firing blanks on suggestions at the 
moment though, so somebody...HELP. Please? (-:

Whatever the case you likely won't be abandoned, even if I kill this thing 
completely. 

Regards;
Charlie
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[newbie] MyDoom

[Bryan Phinney]

This is just a courtesy warning.  If you subscribe to this list and use 
supereva.it as your ISP or  are connected to an account with CGM Data 
Networks in New Delhi, and are using Windows on any computer connected to 
this mailing list, you would be well advised to check it for infection with 
MyDoom.  I just got a bounce to an email address that is only used for Linux 
mailing lists and there is no other way for the virus to have picked up my 
address.  The virus either originated from CGM Data Networks and was sending 
to supereva.it in Italy or it forged a bounce message from supereva.it in 
Italy.  I REALLY suspect that it originated in India based on the IP 
addresses matching known addresses in Italy.

At any rate, I thought I would provide this warning.
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Søren Neigaard]

Also I found this link on the net, dont know if that helps at all:

http://www.linuxhelp.co.za/mandrake/faq/kdefaq-3.html

I tried the chmod thing, but no luck :(

Any ideas I can try would be appriciated.

Best regards
SÃren

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 21:39, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Thursday 29 January 2004 1:14 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> > Tried both, did not help :( Wonder whats wrong, how can it work as
> > root??
> >
> > Best regards
> > SÃren
> >
> Too weird. You have screen savers when you're logged in as root? Something you 
> should never do under any circumstances BTW, at least not on a networked 
> system.
> 
> If they work as root but not as user then you'll definitely have to check 
> permissions as someone previously suggested. What security level did you 
> install at?
> 
> Keep trying and meantime post your security level so the list knows whether 
> you've actually restricted yourself out of the proper groups for such things.
> 
> A final thought; instead of running as root open a terminal then, as super 
> user, type:
> 
> kcontrol [Enter]
> 
> Set the screen savers, backgrounds, power control whatever, and then log out 
> of the terminal, log out your user identity, then log back in. You may get 
> lucky even if the permissions are set too high. This is all based on the 
> assumption you're running KDE as your desktop manager. I hope I'm not 
> assuming too much here. If so ignore me.
> 
> Let the list know?
> 
> Regards;
> Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Internet access cut off after changing security settings with MSEC

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 01:09 pm, Stephen Conklin wrote:
> I was playing with different security settings in MSEC (the mandrake
> security settings gui in drak-config), and after returning to the
> "Standard" setting, I was no longer able to connect to the Internet.  I
> can still access my home network, but cannot move outside of the home
> network onto the internet. When trying to get onto a website, I get a
> "Timeout on server, Connection was to www.example.com at port 80".  I
> cannot SSH onto other boxes, either... but I CAN ping other boxes.
>
> This problem surfaced only after the computer was rebooted prior to
> playing in MSEC.
>
> Any suggestions?
Msec may have reset the internet connection settings. Try going into MCC and 
Internet connection and doing the wizard. See if you can get back on line 
that way. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Sorry it didn't work out!

[et]

ET don't feed the trolls

On Thursday 29 January 2004 05:24 pm, Mike Adolf wrote:
> A while ago I sent mail indicating that when I did "Update" in the 9.2
> installer, it all but trashed by dual boot machine. No boot window and
> Windows would never boot (yea I know that's a good thing) and when 9.2
> booted every thing was screwed up.  I got one reply which said I should
> have installed instead of updated. If I am using an product to take me from
> 9.1 to 9.2, logic tells me that the correct selection is "update".  It took
> a lot of effort to just bring Windows back and I decided that maybe I was
> not ready for Mandrake-- that installer needs work, big time!  I am going
> to give Debian a try. I know, it is more nuts and bolts than Mandrake, but
> I am not looking for something that's easy, just applications that work as
> the interface implies.  I am not burning bridges. Who knows, maybe I'll
> return to mandrake.
>
> Thanks to all who gave me assistance :-)
> mike

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Re: [newbie] mouse

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 12:01 pm, P J Scott wrote:
> well this is odd, I have just come home and switched on the computer.
> Everything was well and 9.2 booted as normal, only my mouse is locked in
> the middle of the screen. I have rebooted and still the same.
> Any answers 
>
> Philip
>
> back to being a novice...
what happens if you type "mousedrake" in a su console and try resetting it 
there?
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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 09:48 am, JoeHill wrote:
> However, if it's the memory only, I could eliminate that
> possibility with memtest, no?

  Maybe, memtest86 isn't as good a test. Just a place to start. It 
doesn't test ram as the name suggests, but the whole system is 
involved.  It might error on another components' weakness.

   It's popular because it's lite weight an easy. OTOH, bad ram is 
a first likely suspect. Often cleaning the contacts or just 
swapping slots will often fix memtest86 complaints. 

   After all, Spirit Rover on Mars has a fixable problem. Marginal 
ram ;)  Seems it's runnin BSD* on a Motorola chip. I doubt if 
memtest86 will sort it out tho.
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Re: [newbie] Adding more ram

[Dennis Myers]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 12:00 pm, Dan Gordon wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:02:20 -0700
>
> Charlie Mahan wrote:
> > "In the next couple of weeks I'll have ice cream for dessert. Will my
> > taste buds identify chocolate?"
>
> LOL
>
> > You can't expect anyone to give an unequivocal answer to that question
> > or yours now can you?
>
> I was not asking for an unequivocal answer, just if the os would or
> should see any extra added ram?
>
> > Depending on what motherboard, what processor(s), what kernel, what
> > kind of RAM; the answer is probably yes. However; if you add enough
> > memory to exceed the (roughly) 850 MB "usable" limit with a single
> > processor system, and a stock kernel, you won't be able to use it all.
> > Any amount of memory that requires having hi-mem (above that limit)
> > compiled into the kernel will actually be slower than an identical
> > system with slightly less memory.
>
> Only going from 256 to 512 MB. I don't think my MB (asus CUV4X-C) via
> vt82c694 chipset, processor intel (pIII 800) should be a problem, the
> ram i will have to check but it is a single 168 pin dimm not sure if its
> 64 or 73 bit.
>
> > Long and short answer is yes unless you use boot flags (lilo append=*
> > line) to specify how much memory you're "supposed to have."
>
> No no flags.
> Thanks for your help :-)
>
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon
You should have no problems Dan, the OS will see it without you doing a thing. 
Did for me. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Newbie Request

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 04:52 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
>Write some important
> notes, just in case. I know next to nothing about WindowsXP, but I
> suspect that it will occupy your entire harddisk without asking.

Not bad advice anyway, but Windows XP won't wipe the harddisk without asking, 
it just won't give you any other option.  It will not resize the partitions 
and leave Mandrake untouched and I suspect that it will require you to 
overwrite the MBR, thus taking out LILO.  

However, if there is an empty partition/space on the drive, IIRC, you can use 
that to install Windows XP and then simply restore LILO and your Mandrake 
installation should be back as good as new.

Never a bad idea to start with XP and then install Mandrake however, Mandrake 
is much more accepting of XP than the other way around.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Søren Neigaard]

You are not assuming too much, I am running KDE.

My security level is standard.

I tried the terminal thing, no success.

When you say I should check permissions, what do you mean? What should
they be? Right now everything under /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver has:
-rwxr-xr-x

Anything else I should try?

Best regards
SÃren

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 21:39, Charlie Mahan wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Thursday 29 January 2004 1:14 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> > Tried both, did not help :( Wonder whats wrong, how can it work as
> > root??
> >
> > Best regards
> > SÃren
> >
> Too weird. You have screen savers when you're logged in as root? Something you 
> should never do under any circumstances BTW, at least not on a networked 
> system.
> 
> If they work as root but not as user then you'll definitely have to check 
> permissions as someone previously suggested. What security level did you 
> install at?
> 
> Keep trying and meantime post your security level so the list knows whether 
> you've actually restricted yourself out of the proper groups for such things.
> 
> A final thought; instead of running as root open a terminal then, as super 
> user, type:
> 
> kcontrol [Enter]
> 
> Set the screen savers, backgrounds, power control whatever, and then log out 
> of the terminal, log out your user identity, then log back in. You may get 
> lucky even if the permissions are set too high. This is all based on the 
> assumption you're running KDE as your desktop manager. I hope I'm not 
> assuming too much here. If so ignore me.
> 
> Let the list know?
> 
> Regards;
> Charlie
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[newbie] Sorry it didn't work out!

[Mike Adolf]

A while ago I sent mail indicating that when I did 
"Update" in the 9.2 installer, it all but trashed by dual boot machine. No boot 
window and Windows would never boot (yea I know that's a good thing) and when 
9.2 booted every thing was screwed up.  I got one reply which said I should 
have installed instead of updated. If I am using an product to take me from 9.1 
to 9.2, logic tells me that the correct selection is "update".  It took a 
lot of effort to just bring Windows back and I decided that maybe I was not 
ready for Mandrake-- that installer needs work, big time!  I am going to 
give Debian a try. I know, it is more nuts and bolts than Mandrake, but I am not 
looking for something that's easy, just applications that work as the interface 
implies.  I am not burning bridges. Who knows, maybe I'll return to mandrake.
 
Thanks to all who gave me assistance 
:-)
mike

Re: [newbie] I want to create a dual boot. Anyone kind enough to advise me?

[Greg Meyer]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 07:28 am, Web Site Response Address wrote:
> I have got a new computer which comes pre-loaded with Mandrake 9.1 (I also
> have the discs). eSys machine Athlon XP 2200, 40 Gb HDD, onboard
> graphics/sound.
>
> I want to create a dual boot with Windows XP Home - for which I also have
> the discs.
>
Why would you buy a machine without Windows, only to pay 4 times the cost of 
what the oem license would have been, by buying the retail box.  Of course, I 
am assuming you actually bought the retail box ;-)

> Please can someone advise the steps/best way to go about this? I am
> reasonably technically competent but no guru.

The traditional way to do this is to install Windows first and then install 
Linux, resizing the windows partition and letting the Linux bootloader create 
a menu presented at boot so you can boot into either Linux or Windows.

You can install Windows second, but there is a little more work to do.

1) I am not sure whether you can resize a Linux partition, or how you would do 
it if you could, but you have to make room on the disk to install Windows.

2) The Windows boot manager is dumb and will overwrite your LILO mbr.  To get 
back into Linux to reinstall LILO, you should create a boot disk (making sure 
you can actually boot from it), install windows and let it overwrite the mbr, 
and then boot from the floppy and then by going to drakboot and adding a 
windows choice to the LILO boot menu.

If you have the Linux install disks, you could also go the traditional route 
by wiping out Linux, installing Windows and then reinstalling Linux.
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Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Message during startup

[Steve Kaufman]

I did a web search on the SWSUSP and your right it does have to do with hibernation. The 1.0.3 I assume is the version. There is a version 3 I think. Does anyone know if I should upgrade this or just leave well enough alone? 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01/27/04 19:02:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Message during startup
 
colour me 'talking tosh'
but my guess is it's to do with stuff like hibernation,
 
bascule
 
On Tuesday 27 Jan 2004 11:35 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote:
> During boot when I hit the esc key to see what is happening I get a message
> that says SWSUSP - 103 Missing or invalid swap partision location (Resume =
> Parameter ) Disabled.
>
> Everything seems to come up normally and later I see messages that the swap
> file is put on line so I think all is well but thought I would ask.
>
> TIA
> Steve
 
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Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[di di]

Anyway...i would very happy if i could update my system...
I run MandrakeUpdate and then comes the error screen "there was an error 
downloading list of "replication" sites. Coulnt conect. There may be a 
connection problem or availability of web MandrakeSoft. Please try later."

The funny thing is that i browse nespapers, my bank account, etc, and i dont 
believe that for 15th time the web of mandrakesoft is unavailable

Then comes "you can choose you site yourself. For this run the Software 
Support Administrator and add a source of Security Updates"

I just came from windows last weektoo much for me

Some help

Thanks




From: "Steve Kaufman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:07:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
How many screensavers should have gotten loaded when all the fixes are
applied. I only have one basically and a random selection and A black 
screen
 Should there have been more.

I had gone into a config GUI that asked me for the root password before
doing the check for the screensavers but had exited it.
---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01/29/04 13:20:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
they are working...
Any ideas please?

Btw. the update tool is really nice :)

Best regards
Søren
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Budhi Astiyadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:04
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
>
>
> > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2,
> > > until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> > > Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates",
> > > "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake
> > > Update box.
> > > I think if you install all updates available, you will have the
> > > screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> > >
> > > HTH. Best regards.
> > > --Angus
> >
> > >From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
> > kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
> > I haven't try yet because im downloading now.
> >
> >
> I had the same problem with my screensaver and it suddenly started 
working
> so it looks like update will cure the problem.
> Regards;
> Hoyt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[di di]

Anyway...i would very happy if i could update my system...
I run MandrakeUpdate and then comes the error screen "there was an error 
downloading list of "replication" sites. Coulnt conect. There may be a 
connection problem or availability of web MandrakeSoft. Please try later."

The funny thing is that i browse nespapers, my bank account, etc, and i dont 
believe that for 15th time the web of mandrakesoft is unavailable

Then comes "you can choose you site yourself. For this run the Software 
Support Administrator and add a source of Security Updates"

I just came from windows last weektoo much for me

Some help

Thanks




From: "Steve Kaufman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:07:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
How many screensavers should have gotten loaded when all the fixes are
applied. I only have one basically and a random selection and A black 
screen
 Should there have been more.

I had gone into a config GUI that asked me for the root password before
doing the check for the screensavers but had exited it.
---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01/29/04 13:20:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
they are working...
Any ideas please?

Btw. the update tool is really nice :)

Best regards
Søren
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Budhi Astiyadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:04
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
>
>
> > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2,
> > > until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> > > Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates",
> > > "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake
> > > Update box.
> > > I think if you install all updates available, you will have the
> > > screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> > >
> > > HTH. Best regards.
> > > --Angus
> >
> > >From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
> > kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
> > I haven't try yet because im downloading now.
> >
> >
> I had the same problem with my screensaver and it suddenly started 
working
> so it looks like update will cure the problem.
> Regards;
> Hoyt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [newbie] What is wrong with this article?

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:40:03 +
Richard Urwin disseminated the following:

> Wow.
> I think your letter of complaint would probably end up being about three 
> times the size of the article.

Just about.

Here was my 'complaint'.

"The statements made in this article are factually incorrect.

For one, SCO is not suing Linus Torvalds, they are suing IBM for alleged
copyright infringement and breach of contract, for which they have shown no
evidence.

Second, most security experts who are monitoring this virus/worm agree that it
is nothing to do with the lawsuit, and is in fact a financially motivated
spamming attack, aimed at gaining control of vulnerable MS Windows machines so
that they can be instructed remotely to send out untraceable spam e-mail.

Finally, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that MyDoom is in any way
connected to the Linux or Open Source community. No one has as yet been
"blamed", as you claim in the article, it is merely speculation, mainly by Darl
McBride, the CEO of SCO.

If you would like to see how real journalism works, please read the following
article:

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/0104/28worm.html

As a Linux user, and an Open Source advocate, I would appreciate it if a
correction was issued on that article after more research is done on your
part."

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[newbie] MandrakeMove to the hard disk

[di di]

Well, i tried and i found it fantastic...but now i would like to have it on 
my hard disk, does anyone tried this before???

Thanks people.

DD.




From: "Steve Kaufman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:07:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
How many screensavers should have gotten loaded when all the fixes are
applied. I only have one basically and a random selection and A black 
screen
 Should there have been more.

I had gone into a config GUI that asked me for the root password before
doing the check for the screensavers but had exited it.
---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01/29/04 13:20:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
they are working...
Any ideas please?

Btw. the update tool is really nice :)

Best regards
Søren
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Budhi Astiyadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:04
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
>
>
> > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2,
> > > until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> > > Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates",
> > > "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake
> > > Update box.
> > > I think if you install all updates available, you will have the
> > > screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> > >
> > > HTH. Best regards.
> > > --Angus
> >
> > >From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
> > kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
> > I haven't try yet because im downloading now.
> >
> >
> I had the same problem with my screensaver and it suddenly started 
working
> so it looks like update will cure the problem.
> Regards;
> Hoyt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Steve Kaufman]

How many screensavers should have gotten loaded when all the fixes are applied. I only have one basically and a random selection and A black screen. Should there have been more.
 
I had gone into a config GUI that asked me for the root password before doing the check for the screensavers but had exited it. 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01/29/04 13:20:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mandrake] Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
 
Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
they are working...
 
Any ideas please?
 
Btw. the update tool is really nice :)
 
Best regards
Søren
 
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Budhi Astiyadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:04
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
>
>
> > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2,
> > > until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> > > Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates",
> > > "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake
> > > Update box.
> > > I think if you install all updates available, you will have the
> > > screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> > >
> > > HTH. Best regards.
> > > --Angus
> >
> > >From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
> > kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
> > I haven't try yet because im downloading now.
> >
> >
> I had the same problem with my screensaver and it suddenly started working
> so it looks like update will cure the problem.
> Regards;
> Hoyt
>
>
>
>
> __
> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
 
 
 
 

Re: [newbie] I want to create a dual boot. Anyone kind enough to advise me?

[Lanman]

You'll be best off setting up Windows on a 10 Gb partition,
and Mandrake on a 10 Gb partition. Take the remaining 20
Gb's, and format them using FAT32 so that both O/S's have
access. That 3rd partition is where you'll store all your
documents, downloads, etc., and both Windows and Linux will
be able to use them. Don't forget to install OpenOffice on
both 10 Gb partitions so that you can access documents in
either O/S. Make sure also that you turn off Plug 'n' Play
in the BIOS before installing. It will save you some
headaches down the road. 

That should get you started. 

Lanman



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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[John Richard Smith]

Tom Brinkman wrote:


cpu temp  50C
System temp 32C
   

Both of these will go up about 5C when you just boot into the OS. Under load, that will climb about another 10C or more.

No it stays the same about 50C , the maximum rise is to about 56C on 
full load conditions and the cpu usage up to 90+%, and in any case the 
bios is currently set to shut down at 60C, so it would never be allowed 
to reach the temperatures you suggest.

However this is going to shock you. AMD appear to sanction a maximum die 
temperature of 90 C, yes I repeat 90C, I know, how can anything 
electrical survive at 90C, beats me and I would never allow that on 
principle, but judge for yourself.

John





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Re: [newbie] Newbie Request

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 14:47, Web Site Response Address wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to ask the newbie group a question, apologies if this
> isn't the right route to do so.
>
I can think of no better route.

> I have a new (literally - no important data on it) computer
> pre-loaded with Mandrake 9.1 which comes with the discs. I also
> have Windows XP Home discs which I want to install as a dual boot
> (backwards compatibility reasons).
>
Congratulations ! - Finally a manufacturer selling PC's preloaded 
with a real operating system.  May I ask : which brand ?

> Please could the Newbies advise on my best route to do so? At
> present I would have thought I was best to load up the Microsoft
> product (wiping the Linux) and then loading up the Mandrake again
> - but I've never done this before and I am somewhat unconfident.
> Some advice/re-assurance would be appreciated.
>
If your PC came preloaded with Mandrake 9.2 and you have the disks 
to reinstall, you can safely do just that. However, before you wipe 
Mandrake, take a little time with pencil and paper, go into your 
various settings in "Configuration --> Configure Your Computer", 
especially the hardware and network settings. Write some important 
notes, just in case. I know next to nothing about WindowsXP, but I 
suspect that it will occupy your entire harddisk without asking. 
Therefore I advice an additional, intermediate step :

Wipe your harddisk with your Mandrake install CD first (in the 
"partitioning" step, choose : "erase entire disk". Then, create two 
FAT32 partitions for Windows , one for C:\ and one for D:\ . (at 
least 5 and 1 GB respectively). Leave at least 10 GB for Mandrake, 
and divide that into 3 ReiserFS partitions, 5 GB for /, 500 MB for 
SWAP and the rest for /home.). 

Of course, if you have a lot of GB, multiply accordingly. When the 
partitioning schema has been written to disk, abort the install.

Now, install Windows. It will only "see" your FAT32 partitions and 
reason that's all you have.

Now, start over again with a Mandrake installation. Choose "use 
existing partitions" when prompted. Mandrake will proceed until it 
asks you to install a bootloader. Say yes, and choose Lilo. Finish 
the procedure and reboot. Now, you can choose whatever you want to 
use, with the added benefit of being able to share files between 
the two systems.

> I hope you folk won't mind helping out.

No we won't. We enjoy it and bid you welcome in our community.

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Charlie Mahan]

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Thursday 29 January 2004 1:14 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> Tried both, did not help :( Wonder whats wrong, how can it work as
> root??
>
> Best regards
> SÃren
>
Too weird. You have screen savers when you're logged in as root? Something you 
should never do under any circumstances BTW, at least not on a networked 
system.

If they work as root but not as user then you'll definitely have to check 
permissions as someone previously suggested. What security level did you 
install at?

Keep trying and meantime post your security level so the list knows whether 
you've actually restricted yourself out of the proper groups for such things.

A final thought; instead of running as root open a terminal then, as super 
user, type:

kcontrol [Enter]

Set the screen savers, backgrounds, power control whatever, and then log out 
of the terminal, log out your user identity, then log back in. You may get 
lucky even if the permissions are set too high. This is all based on the 
assumption you're running KDE as your desktop manager. I hope I'm not 
assuming too much here. If so ignore me.

Let the list know?

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] What is wrong with this article?

[Richard Urwin]

On Thursday 29 Jan 2004 3:22 pm, JoeHill wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Let me count the ways...

Wow.
I think your letter of complaint would probably end up being about three 
times the size of the article.

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[newbie] Ctrl+Alt+F1, cant read commandline

[Thomas Rudolfsson]

I usually boot to runlevel 3. Login and use Xtart to start X.
So far everything is OK.

When I use this sequence from X I end up at the login promt as expected
but the fonts is really big and its floating allover the screen so it's
impossible to do anything.
I can do a Ctrl+Alt+F7 to go back to X though.
I need a hint here, what setting is wrong.
If I logout of X I get the same problem. I really have to remember to
choose "shut down" instead of "log out" in the menu:)

My system used to crash several times every day until I removed the acpi,
apic settings in lilo.conf. Now it's really stable, loving it.

MD 9.2
Geforce FX 5200 videocard+nvidia drivers from their website
Phillips Brilliance 1710 monitor running 1024*768

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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Søren Neigaard]

Tried adding wheel and root, did not help. Where you thinking of other
groups maybe?

Best regards
SÃren

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 20:30, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2004 01:11 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> ->Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
> ->description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
> ->there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
> ->do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
> ->they are working...
> ->
> ->Any ideas please?
> ->
> ->Btw. the update tool is really nice :)
> ->
> ->Best regards
> ->SÃren
> 
> If root can see and use the screensavers but your normal user account can not, 
> then I would be thinking permissions. Try adding your normal user to some 
> groups - could be something as simple as that.


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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Søren Neigaard]

Tried both, did not help :( Wonder whats wrong, how can it work as
root??

Best regards
SÃren

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> Thursday 29 January 2004 12:21 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
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> > rpm rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig [Enter]
> 
> Woops! Corrected:
> 
> rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig [Enter]
> 
> Sorry about that.
> 
> Regards;
> Charlie (with the leaky memory between the ears.)
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Charlie Mahan]

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Thursday 29 January 2004 12:21 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:

> rpm rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig [Enter]

Woops! Corrected:

rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig [Enter]

Sorry about that.

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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Charlie Mahan]

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Thursday 29 January 2004 11:11 am, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
> Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
> description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
> there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
> do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
> they are working...
>
> Any ideas please?
>
> Btw. the update tool is really nice :)
>
> Best regards
> SÃren
>
Just for grins'n'giggles try opening a terminal and switching to super user 
then type:

rpm rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig [Enter]

OR!

Right click the menu button, click menu editor, allow it to build and click 
save without changing anything, then log out and log back in. 

After plan "A" or plan "B" above, go to the KDE (desktop) control centre found 
in the configuration section of your menu and activate power saving. If the 
screen savers are installed that should enable them.

Just random thoughts but I hope it helps.

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 01:11 pm, SÃren Neigaard wrote:
->Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
->description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
->there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
->do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
->they are working...
->
->Any ideas please?
->
->Btw. the update tool is really nice :)
->
->Best regards
->SÃren

If root can see and use the screensavers but your normal user account can not, 
then I would be thinking permissions. Try adding your normal user to some 
groups - could be something as simple as that.

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[newbie] Internet access cut off after changing security settings with MSEC

[Stephen Conklin]

I was playing with different security settings in MSEC (the mandrake 
security settings gui in drak-config), and after returning to the 
"Standard" setting, I was no longer able to connect to the Internet.  I 
can still access my home network, but cannot move outside of the home 
network onto the internet. When trying to get onto a website, I get a 
"Timeout on server, Connection was to www.example.com at port 80".  I 
cannot SSH onto other boxes, either... but I CAN ping other boxes.

This problem surfaced only after the computer was rebooted prior to 
playing in MSEC.

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[newbie] I want to create a dual boot. Anyone kind enough to advise me?

[Web Site Response Address]

I have got a new computer which comes pre-loaded with Mandrake 9.1 (I also
have the discs). eSys machine Athlon XP 2200, 40 Gb HDD, onboard
graphics/sound.

I want to create a dual boot with Windows XP Home - for which I also have
the discs.

Please can someone advise the steps/best way to go about this? I am
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RE: [newbie] mouse

[P J Scott]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Steiner
Sent: 29 January 2004 18:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] mouse


P J Scott wrote:

>well this is odd, I have just come home and switched on the computer.
>Everything was well and 9.2 booted as normal, only my mouse is locked in
the
>middle of the screen. I have rebooted and still the same.
>Any answers 
>
>Philip
>
>back to being a novice...
>
>

Check the physical connection.

I did Its fine, it works perfect in windows. Also it is a new mouse on a usb
coonection.
Up till today it has been fine.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] mouse

[Dave Steiner]

P J Scott wrote:

well this is odd, I have just come home and switched on the computer.
Everything was well and 9.2 booted as normal, only my mouse is locked in the
middle of the screen. I have rebooted and still the same.
Any answers 
Philip

back to being a novice...
 

Check the physical connection.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Søren Neigaard]

Well now I have updated everything, and there was one update where the
description said it would fix my screensavers. But... They are still not
there?? I have rebooted just to be sure (yeah I know, a windows thing to
do), but no luck. If I log in on my KDE as root, they are all there and
they are working...

Any ideas please?

Btw. the update tool is really nice :)

Best regards
SÃren

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Budhi Astiyadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:04
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE
> 
> 
> > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2,
> > > until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> > > Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates",
> > > "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake
> > > Update box.
> > > I think if you install all updates available, you will have the
> > > screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> > >
> > > HTH. Best regards.
> > > --Angus
> >
> > >From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
> > kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
> > I haven't try yet because im downloading now.
> >
> >
> I had the same problem with my screensaver and it suddenly started working
> so it looks like update will cure the problem.
> Regards;
> Hoyt
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[newbie] mouse

[P J Scott]

well this is odd, I have just come home and switched on the computer.
Everything was well and 9.2 booted as normal, only my mouse is locked in the
middle of the screen. I have rebooted and still the same.
Any answers 

Philip

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Re: [newbie] Adding more ram

[Dan Gordon]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:02:20 -0700
Charlie Mahan wrote:
> 
> "In the next couple of weeks I'll have ice cream for dessert. Will my
> taste buds identify chocolate?"

LOL

> 
> You can't expect anyone to give an unequivocal answer to that question
> or yours now can you?

I was not asking for an unequivocal answer, just if the os would or
should see any extra added ram?

> 
> Depending on what motherboard, what processor(s), what kernel, what
> kind of RAM; the answer is probably yes. However; if you add enough
> memory to exceed the (roughly) 850 MB "usable" limit with a single
> processor system, and a stock kernel, you won't be able to use it all.
> Any amount of memory that requires having hi-mem (above that limit)
> compiled into the kernel will actually be slower than an identical
> system with slightly less memory.

Only going from 256 to 512 MB. I don't think my MB (asus CUV4X-C) via
vt82c694 chipset, processor intel (pIII 800) should be a problem, the
ram i will have to check but it is a single 168 pin dimm not sure if its
64 or 73 bit.

> 
> Long and short answer is yes unless you use boot flags (lilo append=*
> line) to specify how much memory you're "supposed to have."

No no flags.
Thanks for your help :-)

Regards,
Dan Gordon 


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[newbie] Newbie Request

[Web Site Response Address]

Hello,
 
I'm trying to ask the newbie group a question, 
apologies if this isn't the right route to do so.
 
I have a new (literally - no important data on it) 
computer pre-loaded with Mandrake 9.1 which comes with the discs. I also have 
Windows XP Home discs which I want to install as a dual boot (backwards 
compatibility reasons).
 
Please could the Newbies advise on my best route to 
do so? At present I would have thought I was best to load up the Microsoft 
product (wiping the Linux) and then loading up the Mandrake again - but I've 
never done this before and I am somewhat unconfident. Some advice/re-assurance 
would be appreciated.
 
I hope you folk won't mind helping 
out.

Re: [newbie] Adding more ram

[Charlie Mahan]

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Thursday 29 January 2004 6:28 am, Dan Gordon wrote:
> In the next couple of weeks i will be adding more ram to my computer.
> Will mandrake find it or is there something i will have to do?
> TIA
>
> Regards,
> Dan Gordon

"In the next couple of weeks I'll have ice cream for dessert. Will my taste 
buds identify chocolate?"

You can't expect anyone to give an unequivocal answer to that question or 
yours now can you?

Depending on what motherboard, what processor(s), what kernel, what kind of 
RAM; the answer is probably yes. However; if you add enough memory to exceed 
the (roughly) 850 MB "usable" limit with a single processor system, and a 
stock kernel, you won't be able to use it all. Any amount of memory that 
requires having hi-mem (above that limit) compiled into the kernel will 
actually be slower than an identical system with slightly less memory.

Long and short answer is yes unless you use boot flags (lilo append=* line) to 
specify how much memory you're "supposed to have."

Regards;
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Nothing is so frustrating as a bad situation that is beginning to
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Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 06:37 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "JoeHill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:27
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?
>
> > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:11:20 -0600
> >
> > Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:
> > > I dont agree with you about getright though it does allow for resuming.
>
> If
>
> > > you tell it what URL you want it will take care of everything.  I
>
> downloaded
>
> > > CD1 in two days.  Then CD2 & 3 in two more.  If I had included CD1,2,3
>
> it
>
> > > would have been faster.
> >
> > I meant no disparagement, GetRight was an amazing app. Back in the day
>
> when I
>
> > had dialup and a Windows 98 box, I would have 12 Getright windows running
>
> 7/24
>
> > downloading warez.
> >
> > I've changed a bit ;-)
Oh really ;-)
> >
> > --
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> > Registered Linux user #282046
> > Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
>
> Havent we all.
> Regards;
> Hoyt


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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[JoeHill]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:41:54 -0600
Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:

> > I'm assuming this 'mprime' would output some diagnostic info on
> > what might be wrong?
> 
>  If it errors, it just puts out a mesg that it stopped on 
> hardware errors.   As with any stress test, it's then up to you 
> to sort out if it's cooling, PSU, cpu/cache/ram, motherboard, 
> etc.

Well, if it's the MOBO or CPU, then I'm not gonna bother trying to fix it, it's
not worth it. It's served it's time well enough.

However, if it's the memory only, I could eliminate that possibility with
memtest, no?

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Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: "JoeHill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:27
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?


> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:11:20 -0600
> Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:
>
> > I dont agree with you about getright though it does allow for resuming.
If
> > you tell it what URL you want it will take care of everything.  I
downloaded
> > CD1 in two days.  Then CD2 & 3 in two more.  If I had included CD1,2,3
it
> > would have been faster.
>
> I meant no disparagement, GetRight was an amazing app. Back in the day
when I
> had dialup and a Windows 98 box, I would have 12 Getright windows running
7/24
> downloading warez.
>
> I've changed a bit ;-)
>
> -- 
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> Registered Linux user #282046
> Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
Havent we all.
Regards;
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: "Budhi Astiyadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 07:04
Subject: Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE


> On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> > Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2,
> > until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> > Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates",
> > "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake
> > Update box.
> > I think if you install all updates available, you will have the
> > screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> >
> > HTH. Best regards.
> > --Angus
>
> >From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
> kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
> I haven't try yet because im downloading now.
>
>
I had the same problem with my screensaver and it suddenly started working
so it looks like update will cure the problem.
Regards;
Hoyt



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[newbie] What is wrong with this article?

[JoeHill]

LOL!

Let me count the ways...

"Microsoft is the latest corporate target expecting attack from the hacker
activists behind the MyDoom email worm.

The destructive code is still flooding internet services in 170 countries. It is
rated the ninth-worst computer virus yet released.

MyDoom-B, a new version of the original worm released early on Tuesday,
Australian time, was identified yesterday. It was found to be carrying an attack
against Microsoft's website, set to be launched between February 1 and 12.

Hacker activists in the Linux software community have been blamed for MyDoom-A,
which carries code that could launch an attack on a US software company, SCO,
selling a variant of the Unix operating system.

The anti-SCO hackers' worm appears to have been copied by anti-Microsoft
activists expressing their dislike of the software monopoly.

SCO, is suing Linus Torvalds, inventor of the Linux operating system, claiming
its Unix code has been illegally used in Linux. Actions are also pending against
IBM and Novell. "

Link:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/29/1075340782350.html

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Re: [newbie] Syslog

[Derek Jennings]

On Thursday 29 Jan 2004 1:59 pm, Mike Begin wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I want to setup a Mandrake 9.2 box to work as a Syslog server on our
> network and do not know where to start.  I know how to configure my
> routers/switches, but need help with Mandrake.  Anyone have any good docs
> or websites?  Thanks for the help.
>
> Mike

Take a look at /etc/sysconfig/syslog

Starting syslog with the -r option allows logging from remote machines.

In the remote machines look at /etc/syslog.conf
The right hand column gives the destination for the log, so

*.*@hostname

will send everything to a remote logger.

See

http://linuxsecurity.com/feature_stories/remote_logserver-3.html

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Re: [newbie] Finally, a socially responsible virus

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:17:02 -0500
Bryan Phinney disseminated the following:

> One should not automatically assume that the virus is necessarily the work of 
> a Linux supporter merely because it is aimed at SCO.

You apparently have good instincts:

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/0104/28worm.html

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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[John Richard Smith]

JoeHill wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:30:18 -0600
Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:
 

   You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run
'./mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time 
it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server, say n, 
it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed, choose 17.
   

Would this test be of any use on an old P166? My webserver is crapping out on me and I don't know why. It's an old machine, could be the processor, RAM, I did swap the HD, so I'm fairly sure it's not that.

I'm assuming this 'mprime' would output some diagnostic info on what might be wrong?
 

It will certainly test your system to the limit.
Don't know if it will provide much analysis.
It's designed to fulfill a long tern maths enquiry.
How can I put it in simple terms,
You know how the value of Pi (of circumference) is a
never ending sum=3 1/7,  goes on for ever, well mprime
does something different looking for special
numbers that take eons of calculus to find.
So your processor works overtime looking
for these numbers, and that tests it till
eventually it overloads and hangs, eventually.


John

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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[Tom Brinkman]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:06 am, JoeHill wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:30:18 -0600
>
> Tom Brinkman disseminated the following:
> > You're in the directory the binary is in. You need to run
> > './mprime -m'And run it as user, not root. The first time
> > it'll ask you if you want to connect to the mprime server,
> > say n, it won't ask again, and the menu will be displayed,
> > choose 17.
>
> Would this test be of any use on an old P166? My webserver is
> crapping out on me and I don't know why. It's an old machine,
> could be the processor, RAM, I did swap the HD, so I'm fairly
> sure it's not that.
>
> I'm assuming this 'mprime' would output some diagnostic info on
> what might be wrong?

 If it errors, it just puts out a mesg that it stopped on 
hardware errors.   As with any stress test, it's then up to you 
to sort out if it's cooling, PSU, cpu/cache/ram, motherboard, 
etc.

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Re: [newbie] networking

[Lanman]

Jason; Try re-doing the network setup in the Mandrake
Control Center  and set the network card to DHCP. No need
to setup a DHCP server or anything like that, since the
Dell router is probably providing the DHCP service for you.
You may not even need to put in your DNS or gateway
information as they could possibly be provided by the
router. It's possible that you have an IP conflict if
you're using an IP address that the WinME system is using
or that the Dell router is trying to pass to another PC.
Also, make sure that you disable any firewalls running on
the Linux OS ( Shorewall or IPtables ) since they may be
preventing any traffic at all, especially Shorewall.

Give that a try and get back to us with the results.

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Re: [newbie] FAT32 defragmentation tools in Linux

[Bryan Phinney]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:41 am, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> Hello everyone on the list,
> I have a question for you: is there any good (free) tool to defragment
> files on FAT32 partitions in Linux? I am puzzled I can't find any with a
> simple search.

I really doubt it.  The only reason to use a FAT32 filesystem is to share 
files with a Windows installation and the Windows OS already comes with a 
defrag tool (albeit a pretty crappy one).

If you really must defrag using Linux, you only need to copy all the files 
from FAT32 to a Linux filesystem, delete them from the FAT32 system and then 
copy them back.  If FAT32 is only being used to share files, it should not 
really be all that large, so copying off and back shouldn't take much more 
time than running the defrag tool under Windows and might even be quicker.

You could combine this with performing a backup as well, kill two birds with 
one stone, so to speak.
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[newbie] Syslog

[Mike Begin]

Hello!

I want to setup a Mandrake 9.2 box to work as a Syslog server on our network
and do not know where to start.  I know how to configure my
routers/switches, but need help with Mandrake.  Anyone have any good docs or
websites?  Thanks for the help.

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RE: [newbie] FAT32 defragmentation tools in Linux

[Tony S. Sykes]

I think he was asking for defragging a win fat32 partion.

Tony.

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On Thursday 29 January 2004 05:41 am, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> Hello everyone on the list,
> I have a question for you: is there any good (free) tool to defragment
> files on FAT32 partitions in Linux? I am puzzled I can't find any with
a
> simple search.
> TIA
> Wojciech Podgórni
Defragging is not needed in linux because the files are handled
differently
smitty
  

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Re: [newbie] FAT32 defragmentation tools in Linux

[Aron Smith]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 05:41 am, Wojciech Podgórni wrote:
> Hello everyone on the list,
> I have a question for you: is there any good (free) tool to defragment
> files on FAT32 partitions in Linux? I am puzzled I can't find any with a
> simple search.
> TIA
> Wojciech Podgórni
Defragging is not needed in linux because the files are handled differently
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[newbie] FAT32 defragmentation tools in Linux

[Wojciech Podgórni]

Hello everyone on the list,
I have a question for you: is there any good (free) tool to defragment 
files on FAT32 partitions in Linux? I am puzzled I can't find any with a 
simple search.
TIA
Wojciech Podgórni


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Re: [newbie] Saving Totem playlists

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:39:05 -0800
David E. Fox disseminated the following:

> but still not able to record with that version.

What happens when you try to record?

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[newbie] Adding more ram

[Dan Gordon]

In the next couple of weeks i will be adding more ram to my computer.
Will mandrake find it or is there something i will have to do?
TIA

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Re: [newbie] Ready for upgrade?

[JoeHill]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:11:20 -0600
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:

> I dont agree with you about getright though it does allow for resuming.  If
> you tell it what URL you want it will take care of everything.  I downloaded
> CD1 in two days.  Then CD2 & 3 in two more.  If I had included CD1,2,3 it
> would have been faster.

I meant no disparagement, GetRight was an amazing app. Back in the day when I
had dialup and a Windows 98 box, I would have 12 Getright windows running 7/24
downloading warez.

I've changed a bit ;-)

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Re: [newbie] sound

[P J Scott]

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 12:28, Giuseppe Spagnolo wrote:
> > Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
> > It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
> > I tried them both and neither works.
> > my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
> > it is on the via chipset
> > via technologies with a pci bus
> > the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
> > and the current driver is snd-via82xx
> >
> > I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
> > loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
> > about halfway..???
> > Thanks Philip
> 
> I really hate that audio card (I have it)... the only way i can make it work 
> without nasty noises is setting the sampling rate to 48000 (open the kde 
> menu, go to the control panel, choose sound and multimedia, sound system, i/
> o)
> Hope it helps... 
> Good luck!
> 
> Beppe
> Thanks for that, I have managed to get rid of the bad noise, and got it to play 
> cd`s. But in the normal run of things i.e games and mulimedia sounds its still dead.
I have run alsaconf and that seemed to go well.
When i installed 9.2 i just went for the default packages with a few
little add ons but nothing in sound. Do you think this might be
something to do with it.
Philip
> 
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Re: [newbie] Sceensavers in KDE

[Budhi Astiyadi]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 05:51, Angus Auld wrote:
> Hi Soren, I had the same thing happening here with my 9.2, 
> until I downloaded and installed all of the updates for 9.2.
> Make sure you check off in addition to 'Security updates", 
> "Bugfixes updates" and "Normal updates", in Mandrake 
> Update box.
> I think if you install all updates available, you will have the 
> screensavers you are looking for in KDE Control Center.
> 
> HTH. Best regards.
> --Angus

>From the description, the package that solve screensaver problem is
kdelibs-common in bugfixes.
I haven't try yet because im downloading now.


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Re: [newbie] wma to mp3

[Aaron]

I was 
surprised to find that Audacity did not have that ability. 

Don't be suprised wma and mp3 are lossy compression methods and it is 
highly unrecommended to go from  compressed to compressed format. I do 
remember an application that does this but results will vary and if you 
can find a cd audio file or a wave its the best. Also see if Sox will do 
the conversion.
Aaron

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Re: [newbie] sound

[P J Scott]

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 10:09, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 January 2004 23:45, P J Scott wrote:
> > says there is no such command 
> > i tried alsaconfig and still same
> > ?
> > no sound
> >
> Philip, you get that if you try to run it as user.  Su to root, then 
> try again.
> 
> Anne

Thanks Anne, yes I actually thought that (learning lol) anyway i ran it
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Re: [newbie] sound

[Giuseppe Spagnolo]

> Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
> It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
> I tried them both and neither works.
> my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
> it is on the via chipset
> via technologies with a pci bus
> the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
> and the current driver is snd-via82xx
>
> I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
> loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
> about halfway..???
> Thanks Philip

I really hate that audio card (I have it)... the only way i can make it work 
without nasty noises is setting the sampling rate to 48000 (open the kde 
menu, go to the control panel, choose sound and multimedia, sound system, i/
o)
Hope it helps... 
Good luck!

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Re: [newbie] avi to svcd programs?

[Peter Watson]

On Thursday 29 Jan 2004 5:53 am, David E. Fox wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:31:48 -0800
>
> "David E. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I found mencvcd, just trying it now with a DVD. A couple fits &
> > starts, but we'll see what the results give.
>
> Following up on my own post (/slap):
>
> Well, I experimented a few times with that mencvcd script, found a few
> options that worked, and ended up with 2 files in /tmp: one's a mpa and
> the other one is an mpv file. 'file' says one is mpeg 2 audio (MP2,
> 224k) and the other one is an mpeg video stream.
>
> So far, that's probably what I want, right, for VCD encode?
>
> Seems like the next step is to take those two files and make a disk
> image (or two, as they both are larger than a single CD). What's my next
> step -- is this something that vcd imager or k3b is going to be able to
> do ... i.e., split the files up into cd-sized chunks, write out the
> right directory structure including a DAT file for the movie? (That's
> what I see when I mount some VCDs that my brother did in Windows).

David

I haven't used mencvcd but when I make VCD's using transcode I end up with 2 
files, one video -.mpv, and one audio -.mp2, the next step for me is to 
multiplex them into one mpg file using mplex. After that I use vcdimager to 
create the right structure and cdrdao to burn. Maybe you need to multiplex 
your files next.

If you want to cut files up into smaller chunks I would suggest you look at 
mpgtx, this is what I use. In the past I have had good results with avidemux, 
but for me it seems flaky under 9.2 


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Re: [newbie] Transcode

[John Richard Smith]

David E. Fox wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:50:23 +
John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have 512MB of DDR ram, but sorry I don't understand the rference, 
make -j 100
   

# of parallel compiles: i.e., make -j 4 issues 4 gcc's on files in
parallel. If you have a big source tree, or gobs of RAM, or multiple
processors, you can get the job done faster. Obviously, there's an
upper limit: -j 100 implies 100 copies of gcc (plus other things)
running all at one time. Obviously, you would not want to do this
unless your box had adequate spped & memory.
I've done a 'make -j 25' successfully on /usr/src/linux. But it was kind
of painful. Some might consider it a decent stress tester of the overall
system (disk/cpu/cashe/ram) because it can stress all these areas.
 

Thank you David,
Now that you point it's meaning out to me I fully understand.
I can imagine, 100 compiles running side by side, gosh.
As a matter of interst How does it apportion the task, I mean , your've got
one compiles , chopped up into sections for each section it's compiling
and then the make has to be reassembled, the mind boddles at the prospect.
John

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Re: [newbie] sound

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 23:45, P J Scott wrote:
> says there is no such command 
> i tried alsaconfig and still same
> ?
> no sound
>
Philip, you get that if you try to run it as user.  Su to root, then 
try again.

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Re: [newbie] sound

[P J Scott]

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:29, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:45, P J Scott wrote:
> > says there is no such command 
> > i tried alsaconfig and still same
> > ?
> > no sound
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christoph Eckert
> > Sent: 28 January 2004 18:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] sound
> >
> >
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 17:43 schrieb P J Scott:
> > > Anyone know why
> >
> > Try to run alsaconf in a console window.
> >
> >
> > Gruß / regards
> >
> >
> > ce
> 
> alsaconf is in the alsa-utils rpm. K -> Configuration -> hardware -> 
> Harddrake -> soundcard -> run config tool -> troubleshooting will give 
> much debugging info. 
> 
> 
> Only one problem left
> STILL NO SOUND ?///
> 
> 
> Maybe a little more specific info might help :-)
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -Frans
> 
> 
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Thanks, I just ran this tool and as far as i can see everything is fine.
It has the right sound card and it let me choose different drivers.
I tried them both and neither works.
my sound is onboard with the 5.1 channel audio
it is on the via chipset 
via technologies with a pci bus
the audio controller is vt 8233 ac97
and the current driver is snd-via82xx

I have just moved the slider in the volume control and got some very
loud noise and screech this only will go off now with the volume slider
about halfway..???
Thanks Philip


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Re: [newbie] networking

[moey tony]

I think there are posts regarding this on this lists...u may have to search for it.
However, if you do need help, maybe you can help by supplying the all the relevant ip addresses of your two PCs and also the DNS and Gateway numbers. 
 
 
- Original Message -From: alex anonymus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:04:41 -0800 (PST)To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] networking
hi,
 
i have an AMD athlon 1.1 ghz,,,its a compaq 5004US.
my network card is SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI (SMC1211TX),
 
i just installed mandrake9.2 2 days ago with dual boot, however the network doesnt work!
 
i did ipconfig in the console window in xp, and copied down the info...
ip adress...
subnet mas
default gateway...
Connection-specific DNS Suffix. :
this is all that it gave me for the DNS.
 
I then went to the mandrake config tool, and i wrote in the same ip address, and gateway address...then i went to the linux prompt typed #ifconfig -a
the ip addresses were the same as on the xp computer, and the gateway was also the same...
 
i then did #service network restart
and the network restarted everything had an ok next to it
 
but i think that only the lo things were working..as when i typed in #service network status or something like that...i dont rmmr now exactly...i only saw lo, not the eth0
 
in the mandrake computer config tool,,,my network card is up, however the internet connection is NOT working...
 
im not in linux, now, but i think the tool was called samba, using this, i saw the other computeron my network,,,however again the internet isnt working...
 
my router has a built it modem, and it dials by itself...under xp when i set up the network, the cpu automatically detected the lan internet connection.
 
the router is a Dell TrueMobile BaseStation...however I'm almost sure that no drivers are needed, because i connect with a crossover cable, and not a pci-card, like my laptop does.
 
The xp network works perfectly, it was a breeze to set up, i just went and did the set up home networking tool, on both computers and the network and internet worked perfectly...
 
i dont know what is wrong on linux...please help as i have asked this same question on several posts, and nobody has been able to help me so far...so i turn to the linux gurus and experts here
 
oh, btw im networking with mandrake on dual boot with xp and the other computer is windows ME
 
thanx in advance,
 
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[newbie] ALSA sound troubles with Dell Inspiron 5150

[Marcio Cordero]

Hi everybody
I've got this Inspiron 5150 (PIV-3.06, Intel 852PM MoBo, Geforce FX go 5200,
512MB RAM, etc.). I did a new install with the updated CDs from
mandrakeclub. I've been trying to get some sound but until now to  no avail. XP Home
produces sound, so it's not a hardware problem. The strange thing is I don't get
any error message, XMMS starts playing normally, I just can't hear anything.
Alsamixer tells me I have Intel 82801DB-ICH4 card with a SigmaTel STAC9750/51
chipset. I do have an older Inspiron 2650 with the same card (-ICH3 at the
end) but the chip is a STAC9721/23 and everything works OK.  I found this
thread on google about the same chipset and ML 9.2:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sigmatel+9750+linux&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=400190ca%240%24244%24edfadb0f%40dread14.news.tele.dk&rnum=2
During start I get the following in /var/log/messages:
...
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-1
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-2
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-3
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-4
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-5
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-6
localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-7
...
Does anyone have a clue? Could it have to do with the updated ISOs from
mandrakeclub?
I could send my complete /etc/modules.conf or dmesg output if desired.
Any help very welcomed.
TIA, Marcio Cordero

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