[newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
Hi all, The KDE3.4 is wonderful. I love it very much. However, there are still some hiccups that need to sort out, one of them is: I cannot shutdown my notebook. When I click on the log out then shutdown the screen blanks, then the logon screen appears again. Is this a bug? How can I fix it? Thanks, -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 15:04:54 up 4:36, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Useful URL for newbies
Hello I found this URL to be useful for beginners who have some knowledge, but need a bit of guidance. http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fixing an application--?
Marv Boyes wrote: Hello, all. Wasn't sure how to title this post, as I've never run into this situation before. The application in question is Bookcase (v.0.6.6-1; I believe the applciation is now called something else). It's kind of a specialized thing, so I'm hoping that whatever is happening to me is a generalized problem and has a general solution. Basically, it won't run any more. I made the apparent mistake of trying to open a second data file before the first had been saved, and when I hit Cancel the program crashed. Now when I try to run it, I get the same error from the KDE crash handler that I got at the initial crash: 'The application Bookcase (bookcase) crashed and cause the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).' The following is my terminal output: Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 QCheckBox::property( title ) failed: property invalid or does not exist [the above is repeated seven times] WARNING: BookcaseDoc::loadDomDocument() - unsupported collection type! WARNING: Bookcase will probably crash at some point! QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key QGDictIterator::toFirst: Dictionary has been deleted I went looking for some kind of configuration file, or dotfile or .directory that I thought might be related to the program, but couldn't find anything. I uninstalled the program (via RPMdrake) and reinstalled, but I'm getting the same behavior. Any ideas? All guidance is greatly appreciated in advance. As a newbie my first step would be to check whether or not your problem is user specific or not. Can you log in as a different user and see if you still have the same problems ? -- Newbie Seeking USER_FUNCTIONALITY always! Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] command line disappears in konsole
Every now and then this has happened. I open konsole and there is no [EMAIL PROTECTED], I reboot when this happens and usual appearance returns. Am I inadvertently doing something to cause this? Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: MySQL DB Connection to Open Office
SOTL wrote: Hi All Well I have ascertained that the principal reason that I am unable to connect to a DB using OO is that Java is not installed in OO. Java is installed on the computer but the OO-1.9 installation did not recognize this so now the first issue is how does one install Java into OO. Since there is a principal reason there must by necessity be as least one more reason which I am sorry to say is another installation issue of software into OO. It also appears that even though there are drivers for JDBC installed in OO-1.1 which is also installed on this box that OO-1.9 does not recognize these drivers existence so again the question is how does one go about installing these drivers into OO. The issue is not where to down load Java or the drivers or which Java and drivers are needed but in how to install both Java and the JDBC drivers. Would appreciate a little enlightnment of how one goes about making these installations. Thanks Frank Hi Frank Have you tried Tools-Options-OpenOffice.org-Java ? On my installation OOo 2.0 Beta (1.9.79) this found my installed JRE, and gives the option to add others. HTH Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:06:54 +0700, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The KDE3.4 is wonderful. I love it very much. However, there are still some hiccups that need to sort out, one of them is: I cannot shutdown my notebook. When I click on the log out then shutdown the screen blanks, then the logon screen appears again. Is this a bug? How can I fix it? I remember you that you can shutdown your computer running the command halt in a console. Are you using kdm or mdkkdm, Fajar? Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] gwenview
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 06:45, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I've installed gwenview, unfortunately the attempted install of updated version failed and it is version 1. I can't see any of the photos using this application. I can see them in Konqueror, and find their file names in gwenview but no images appear. Been hunting around for some documentation, but not much luck so far. Any ideas appreciated. Hi, Rosemary. I suspect that the old version doesn't work very well, and so far the new version is only available on the club site. You could try a message to Angelo Naselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] who was very helpful to me in getting it working. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpaI9gmgZsb6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] gwenview
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 06:45, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I've installed gwenview, unfortunately the attempted install of updated version failed and it is version 1. I can't see any of the photos using this application. I can see them in Konqueror, and find their file names in gwenview but no images appear. Been hunting around for some documentation, but not much luck so far. Any ideas appreciated. Hi, Rosemary. I suspect that the old version doesn't work very well, and so far the new version is only available on the club site. You could try a message to Angelo Naselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] who was very helpful to me in getting it working. Anne Okay Anne - thanks - wondered if it was something silly I was doing ... I need to become a club member obviously. I see that GQview provides a good picture on monitor, and I can see the photos using Gimp2. Have not attempted anything with it though. The display of files etc in gwenview looked easy to deal with. Will contact Angelo - thanks for your help. Buying a card reader to access my photos and save the visit to WinXP. It's becoming a point of honour, not to mention *nuisance*. Have some photos I want to look at! Thanks again Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Fixing an application--?
On Monday 21 March 2005 06:02, Marv Boyes wrote: Hello, all. Wasn't sure how to title this post, as I've never run into this situation before. The application in question is Bookcase (v.0.6.6-1; I believe the applciation is now called something else). It's kind of a specialized thing, so I'm hoping that whatever is happening to me is a generalized problem and has a general solution. Basically, it won't run any more. I made the apparent mistake of trying to open a second data file before the first had been saved, and when I hit Cancel the program crashed. Now when I try to run it, I get the same error from the KDE crash handler that I got at the initial crash: 'The application Bookcase (bookcase) crashed and cause the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).' The following is my terminal output: Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 QCheckBox::property( title ) failed: property invalid or does not exist [the above is repeated seven times] WARNING: BookcaseDoc::loadDomDocument() - unsupported collection type! WARNING: Bookcase will probably crash at some point! QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key QGDictIterator::toFirst: Dictionary has been deleted I went looking for some kind of configuration file, or dotfile or .directory that I thought might be related to the program, but couldn't find anything. I uninstalled the program (via RPMdrake) and reinstalled, but I'm getting the same behavior. Any ideas? All guidance is greatly appreciated in advance. I am not familiar with this app, but normally your user configuration will be stored in a hidden file or folder in your /home. Set konqueror to show hidden files and you will be able to find it (They start with '.') If it is a KDE based app, then the set up file will be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config or maybe in ~/.kde/share/apps If you delete the user config file a new one will be automatically created next time you run it with default configuration. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] gwenview
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 06:45, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I've installed gwenview, unfortunately the attempted install of updated version failed and it is version 1. I can't see any of the photos using this application. I can see them in Konqueror, and find their file names in gwenview but no images appear. Been hunting around for some documentation, but not much luck so far. Any ideas appreciated. Hi, Rosemary. I suspect that the old version doesn't work very well, and so far the new version is only available on the club site. You could try a message to Angelo Naselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] who was very helpful to me in getting it working. Anne Okay Anne - thanks - wondered if it was something silly I was doing ... I need to become a club member obviously. I see that GQview provides a good picture on monitor, and I can see the photos using Gimp2. Have not attempted anything with it though. The display of files etc in gwenview looked easy to deal with. Will contact Angelo - thanks for your help. Buying a card reader to access my photos and save the visit to WinXP. It's becoming a point of honour, not to mention *nuisance*. Have some photos I want to look at! Thanks again Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Actually - have used Gimp in windows and produced photos in mandrake 10.1. Just need to learn how to work it better! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] gwenview
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 10:21, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Okay Anne - thanks - wondered if it was something silly I was doing ... I don't think so. I need to become a club member obviously. I see that GQview provides a good picture on monitor, and I can see the photos using Gimp2. Have not attempted anything with it though. The display of files etc in gwenview looked easy to deal with. It is really nice, so get it when you can. Meanwhile, if you can install gpp it will give you the ability to print multiple photos to a page. GwenView can do it, but if you haven't got that working, get gpp. Will contact Angelo - thanks for your help. Buying a card reader to access my photos and save the visit to WinXP. It's becoming a point of honour, not to mention *nuisance*. Have some photos I want to look at! LOL - I know the feeling. Most people seem to be able to use their card readers now. It used to be problematic for card readers with more than one format, but a few months ago I bought a front-panel for one box, to allow me to input sound from my hi-fi, for recording. As it happens it has a 6-in-1 card reader as well, and I was amazed to find that it was just picked up without me doing anything, showing up as extra removable drives. Actually - have used Gimp in windows and produced photos in mandrake 10.1. Just need to learn how to work it better! It's brilliant at almost everything you want it to do, but it does feel strange at first. There's a massive manual in .pdf format. Google for it, but if you can't find it let me know - I think I have a copy here that I could send you. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpQPB37vQx8s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] gwenview
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 10:21, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Okay Anne - thanks - wondered if it was something silly I was doing ... I don't think so. I need to become a club member obviously. I see that GQview provides a good picture on monitor, and I can see the photos using Gimp2. Have not attempted anything with it though. The display of files etc in gwenview looked easy to deal with. It is really nice, so get it when you can. Meanwhile, if you can install gpp it will give you the ability to print multiple photos to a page. GwenView can do it, but if you haven't got that working, get gpp. Yes - multiple photos to a page is needed. Will contact Angelo - thanks for your help. Buying a card reader to access my photos and save the visit to WinXP. It's becoming a point of honour, not to mention *nuisance*. Have some photos I want to look at! LOL - I know the feeling. Most people seem to be able to use their card readers now. It used to be problematic for card readers with more than one format, but a few months ago I bought a front-panel for one box, to allow me to input sound from my hi-fi, for recording. As it happens it has a 6-in-1 card reader as well, and I was amazed to find that it was just picked up without me doing anything, showing up as extra removable drives. The vendors of this card responded to my emails and actually use Sue 9.2. They say it works it great - plug and play - *cringe* all CLI advocates! Actually - have used Gimp in windows and produced photos in mandrake 10.1. Just need to learn how to work it better! It's brilliant at almost everything you want it to do, but it does feel strange at first. There's a massive manual in .pdf format. Google for it, but if you can't find it let me know - I think I have a copy here that I could send you. Anne I have some of that, and some gimp quickies printed. Thanks for the offer though. I probably waste a lot of time eg have mucked about in windows and trying firefox etc and The Gimp, talking myself out of trying linux because of the time commitment, coming back to it, never really getting to grips, but bottom line is - I want to to do what I need - eg print photos. I don't need to understand everything about it. But at the same time - there is a greediness - I want to be able to know about, and control it as well! Yes - well - I know - I want too much! Thanks anyway Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FIXED: Fixing an application--?
Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 06:02, Marv Boyes wrote: Hello, all. Wasn't sure how to title this post, as I've never run into this situation before. snip I am not familiar with this app, but normally your user configuration will be stored in a hidden file or folder in your /home. Set konqueror to show hidden files and you will be able to find it (They start with '.') If it is a KDE based app, then the set up file will be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config or maybe in ~/.kde/share/apps If you delete the user config file a new one will be automatically created next time you run it with default configuration. You know-- I just didn't think to look in the .kde directory... I guess I've been using XFce for too long. ;) Problem solved. I deleted the bookcaserc file, and the application ran. It crashed again when I tried to load my data file, so there was apparently some kind of corruption in that. Luckily, it only had a few entries in it; most of my library is in storage (I never thought I'd be _happy_ to be separated from my books...). It's working great again with fresh config and data files. Sorry this one was so elementary. Thanks! Marv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] One Page Manual
http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~squadron/ It's actually two pages Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: memory card readers on USB (Re: [newbie] connecting camera using the PTP protocol
Philippe Landau wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: http://www.google.ch/search?q=memory-card+copy-protection CPRM technology, a copy protection mechanism is embedded in all SD Memory Cards and can be used to protect copyrighted content such as most commercially distributed music and movie files. as usual the orwelian newspeak media call it support when it's a shafting. It's like the language Management use at work when it's also shafting! The sales people tell me the reader works fine on Suse 9.2 which they use, (plug and play). Hopefully the card is okay. I'll only be using it for my photos. keep us posted :-) switzerland *(beautiful official nwo blood money vault).* ** What does this mean? the NWO (New World Order by worldwide mass extermination) was first attempted by Hitler and is now being implemented by his financers: you will find the best info about it on p2p. Will take a look at this. Need to be better informed about so many things. yes, and most of them are just put out there to distract you. kind regards philippe -- http://www.vialls.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Hello Philippe I did take a brief look at the site you sent on - then realised, that however selfish it seems I don't want to see such information. I have some women friends who like me, have difficulty with the violence we see on television news, etc. I realise how crass this might sound, but we are sensitive people, and I think, just believe the overt violence, in all sorts of ways, including what you mention, is just too much. I know it doesn't make it go away, and I do take stances on things (espec at work). What Hitler did is absolutely indefensible - unfortunately (I believe anyway) it happens, in other ways, all the time. Your point I guess ... I hope Hitler's atrocities have not had a direct consequence for you - we in NZ tend to be somewhat immured from the long term effects on families, of WWII, other than the obvious loss of a young person. Not the indirect, long term effects ... best regards Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] gwenview
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 06:45, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I've installed gwenview, unfortunately the attempted install of updated version failed and it is version 1. I can't see any of the photos using this application. I can see them in Konqueror, and find their file names in gwenview but no images appear. Been hunting around for some documentation, but not much luck so far. Any ideas appreciated. Hi, Rosemary. I suspect that the old version doesn't work very well, and so far the new version is only available on the club site. You could try a message to Angelo Naselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] who was very helpful to me in getting it working. Anne The version I attempted to install was not tested I think - yes I know, install at your peril if you are newbie. It didn't work apparently anyhow. There was some updated rps at gwenview, but not stable. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FIXED: Fixing an application--?
Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 06:02, Marv Boyes wrote: Hello, all. Wasn't sure how to title this post, as I've never run into this situation before. snip I am not familiar with this app, but normally your user configuration will be stored in a hidden file or folder in your /home. Set konqueror to show hidden files and you will be able to find it (They start with '.') If it is a KDE based app, then the set up file will be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config or maybe in ~/.kde/share/apps If you delete the user config file a new one will be automatically created next time you run it with default configuration. You know-- I just didn't think to look in the .kde directory... I guess I've been using XFce for too long. ;) Problem solved. I deleted the bookcaserc file, and the application ran. It crashed again when I tried to load my data file, so there was apparently some kind of corruption in that. Luckily, it only had a few entries in it; most of my library is in storage (I never thought I'd be _happy_ to be separated from my books...). It's working great again with fresh config and data files. Sorry this one was so elementary. Thanks! Marv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KDE - KOrganizer - Free/Busy
Hi All Does anyone have any idea of how to set up KOrganizer Free/Busy Where the setup ask for Server Information what server should be entered? Same for User Name and Password. Is the following correct? Server Information: mail.ISP.net User Name: Login Name to e-mail Password: email Password Thanks Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] One Page Manual
Aron Smith wrote: http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~squadron/ It's actually two pages Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com At first glance looks user friendly, even tho two pages? Rosemary PS I have a million linux bookmarks now!! Not far off anyway. My eyes are falling out of my head and I still can't work it out! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Yet Another RPMDrake question
If I double-click on an RPM that's not listed in RPMDrake, will it be able to install? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
On Monday 21 March 2005 03:04 am, Duncan Anderson wrote: Hello I found this URL to be useful for beginners who have some knowledge, but need a bit of guidance. http://freeengineer.org/learnUNIXin10minutes.html The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan cool; and it's all on one page too. :) thanks -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan Is that not so ? I read somewhere about a command that could wipe out your whole system if done as root. Something to do with r and rm and -r I think ... Rosemary PS Not that I am about to do anything so outrageous :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
On Monday 21 March 2005 09:08, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan Is that not so ? I read somewhere about a command that could wipe out your whole system if done as root. Something to do with r and rm and -r I think ... Rosemary PS Not that I am about to do anything so outrageous :-) I don't know about a comand to wipe a system but I do know a procedure of how I trash a HD. All I did was use MC to search for test and HD went into orbit. It is now a good paperweight on my desk. What I was searching for were DBs I had created call test1, test2 et. What I got was a trashed HD. Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan Is that not so ? I read somewhere about a command that could wipe out your whole system if done as root. Something to do with r and rm and -r I think ... Rosemary PS Not that I am about to do anything so outrageous :-) Ha! That reminds me. Once upon a time I used to run a UNIX support department for a big distributor, and we had our own public access ftp server with patches and drivers on it. Anyway, one fine day, I was logged in as root, fiddling around in a subdirectory, and then I typed cd, and enter, and then someone must have distracted me, and then I typed rm * and pressed enter. Since this was an old UNIX box, cd on its own takes you to the / directory. root does not have its own home as on Linux. OOPS! Not only did that UNIX box not have its own /root home directory, but it also lacked a separate /boot or /stand directory, so I had just managed to remove the kernel /unix and the boot program /boot. DOUBLE OOPS! Fortunately, I kept my wits about me, and quickly mounted an installation boot floppy from which I copied the /boot program, then I relinked the kernel, which produced a new /unix file, while praying that we did not have a power failure. Phew! None of my support technicians noticed a thing! I reckon I would have been a bit embarrassed if they had. Incidentally, the command you were talking about rm -r is absolutely lethal when run as root in the root directory. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
On Monday 21 March 2005 16:43, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:06:54 +0700, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The KDE3.4 is wonderful. I love it very much. However, there are still some hiccups that need to sort out, one of them is: I cannot shutdown my notebook. When I click on the log out then shutdown the screen blanks, then the logon screen appears again. Is this a bug? How can I fix it? I remember you that you can shutdown your computer running the command halt in a console. Are you using kdm or mdkkdm, Fajar? Paul Hi Paul, Thanks for resposing. I guess I'm using mdkkdm, but how do I know this? -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 22:20:31 up 11:52, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
SOTL wrote: I don't know about a comand to wipe a system but I do know a procedure of how I trash a HD. All I did was use MC to search for test and HD went into orbit. It is now a good paperweight on my desk. What I was searching for were DBs I had created call test1, test2 et. What I got was a trashed HD. Frank Frank, When you mention MC, what do you mean? (Midnight Commander?) cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Duncan Anderson wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: The CLI is not something to be feared. cheers Duncan Is that not so ? I read somewhere about a command that could wipe out your whole system if done as root. Something to do with r and rm and -r I think ... Rosemary PS Not that I am about to do anything so outrageous :-) Ha! That reminds me. Once upon a time I used to run a UNIX support department for a big distributor, and we had our own public access ftp server with patches and drivers on it. Anyway, one fine day, I was logged in as root, fiddling around in a subdirectory, and then I typed cd, and enter, and then someone must have distracted me, and then I typed rm * and pressed enter. Since this was an old UNIX box, cd on its own takes you to the / directory. root does not have its own home as on Linux. OOPS! Not only did that UNIX box not have its own /root home directory, but it also lacked a separate /boot or /stand directory, so I had just managed to remove the kernel /unix and the boot program /boot. DOUBLE OOPS! Fortunately, I kept my wits about me, and quickly mounted an installation boot floppy from which I copied the /boot program, then I relinked the kernel, which produced a new /unix file, while praying that we did not have a power failure. Phew! None of my support technicians noticed a thing! I reckon I would have been a bit embarrassed if they had. Incidentally, the command you were talking about rm -r is absolutely lethal when run as root in the root directory. cheers Duncan Glad you were able to retrieve the situation -:-) must have been a bit of a sweat for a while. Read that in a book I have somewhere ... ever since been nervous in CLI! cheers Rosemary PS Actually have realised I can move about and look quite safely, and even do so as root sometimes There are some added protections to make doing that even harder now. When you type rm from the command line, you are actualy running rm -i thanks to a handy alias. So you would be asked to confirm every deletion. When you get asked about the first one, hit Ctrl-c, and it will abort the command. Not that you want to be logged in as root, unless you realy need to for what you are doing. But it is harder to break things then it used to be. There are still a lot of things you can do as root that will break the system. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] command line disappears in konsole
On March 21, 2005 02:02, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Every now and then this has happened. I open konsole and there is no [EMAIL PROTECTED], I reboot when this happens and usual appearance returns. Am I inadvertently doing something to cause this? Thanks Rosemary Just a guess, but it sounds like something in the startup script(s) is causing bash to hang (I'm assuming you're using the default bash, not some other shell). When you start konsole, it starts bash to process your commands. If you have a .bashrc file in your home directory, this gets run to initialize the shell. The default .bashrc invokes /etc/bashrc, and if you don't have a .bashrc then /etc/bashrc also gets invoked. /etc/bashrc does some initialization of its own and also invokes all the scripts in /etc/profile.d. So there's quite a bit of initialization that normally gets done every time you start a konsole. (I could have some details of the initialization incorrect or incomplete; someone more knowledgeable about it can correct me). Something in there could cause a hang, which would cause the bash prompt to never show up in the konsole. Figuring it out might require some detective work. You could try doing a ctrl-esc to see what processes are running. You might be able to see what process it's hung on. You could also try (as root) going into MCC - System - Users and Groups, double-clicking yourself, and then you can make changes to your shell setting. You could try adding a -v (without the quotes of course) to set verbose mode - this might tell you what's going on while bash is initializing. Or adding --norc --noprofile should prevent any initialization from being done, which should stop the hanging if this is the cause. I don't know if these changes will take effect until you logout and login again, though, so I'm not sure if this will help when you're experiencing the hang (and not having initializations may limit the usefulness of the shell). I've never experienced this in Linux, so I'm just guessing. May not be applicable, but I used to work on a Solaris Unix system that had path entries that were on remote mounted drives (via NFS). If there was some problem mounting the drive, the shell wasn't smart enough to detect that the drive was unavailable, it would just hang forever trying to access the drive. A ctrl-C would interrupt the initialization and allow you to get a shell, though with some of the initialization not done. But there were various bits of Solaris brain-damage that Linux doesn't seem to suffer from, so I don't know if something similar could occur. HTH -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
On Monday 21 March 2005 07:34 am, Duncan Anderson wrote: SOTL wrote: I don't know about a comand to wipe a system but I do know a procedure of how I trash a HD. All I did was use MC to search for test and HD went into orbit. It is now a good paperweight on my desk. What I was searching for were DBs I had created call test1, test2 et. What I got was a trashed HD. Frank Frank, When you mention MC, what do you mean? (Midnight Commander?) cheers Duncan MC is a cloneof midnight commander urpmi mc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I like to make scripts a bit more bullet proof... I would probably change it to: for i in *.mp3 ; do name=$(basename $i .mp3) mpg123 -s $name.mp3 | sox -f 44100 -w -s -c 2 - $name.wav done This way, it handles files with spaces in the name, and you avoid having to use a temp file. The error generated by a file with a space in its name would not be a problem by itself, and using a temp file would not be a problem by it self. but if you get the wrong name, you could delete something other then what you intended to. For example, if you had a file called bridge over troubled water.mp3 and you also had a file called bridge in the same directory, you script would first overwrite, then delete bridge. Using basename in place of FILE=`echo $FILE | sed s/.mp3//g` also solves the problem of a file with .mp3 in more then one place in the name. It would probably not be a problem in any case, but you never know. Mikkel You are a scriptmaster of note, Mikkel. My version of the script works for me, because I always make sure that there are no spaces in the names first. Your refinement allows one to be more lazy! regards Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: There are some added protections to make doing that even harder now. When you type rm from the command line, you are actualy running rm -i thanks to a handy alias. So you would be asked to confirm every deletion. When you get asked about the first one, hit Ctrl-c, and it will abort the command. Yes, isn't Linux (especially Mandrake) just wonderful? Not that you want to be logged in as root, unless you realy need to for what you are doing. But it is harder to break things then it used to be. There are still a lot of things you can do as root that will break the system. Mikkel It's a bit bit like walking on thin ice, isn't it? As a general rule, one should su to root only when it is absolutely necessary. I am a reformed root user. What I mean by that is that I always used to log in as root at home, because I never had to worry about permissions on devices, directories, etc. It was a form of laziness. I did this for years, but lately I have got into the habit of trying to make things work as a normal user. (I still run xmms and k3b as root, though. Probably laziness.) cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
Duncan Anderson wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: There are some added protections to make doing that even harder now. When you type rm from the command line, you are actualy running rm -i thanks to a handy alias. So you would be asked to confirm every deletion. When you get asked about the first one, hit Ctrl-c, and it will abort the command. Yes, isn't Linux (especially Mandrake) just wonderful? Not that you want to be logged in as root, unless you realy need to for what you are doing. But it is harder to break things then it used to be. There are still a lot of things you can do as root that will break the system. Mikkel It's a bit bit like walking on thin ice, isn't it? As a general rule, one should su to root only when it is absolutely necessary. I am a reformed root user. What I mean by that is that I always used to log in as root at home, because I never had to worry about permissions on devices, directories, etc. It was a form of laziness. I did this for years, but lately I have got into the habit of trying to make things work as a normal user. (I still run xmms and k3b as root, though. Probably laziness.) cheers Duncan I think we are saying the same things here, but in different ways. I don't normaly log in as root, or even su -. I do most things as a normal user. About the only things I use root for are when I am playing with udev rules, testing disaster recovery programs, or installing software. Unfortunitly, root is required there. Disaster recovery testing has the biggest potential for disaster, because I am doing things like wiping the partition table, and trying to recover it. I guess I could set up a way to do that as a normal user, but I don't realy want to - that scares me more then logging in as root. But then, a normal user shouldn't be able to do the things I am doing during testing anyway. That is what I mean be realy need to. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Auld lang syne.
Hello, In the More proof that I'm not the smartest guy in the world department, and in the hope that maybe someone out there is where I was a year or so ago, I want to say that Vim rocks! I had heard it many times, but since I couldn't just type 'vim foo' and go, I took the path of least resistance and suffered. So, if anybody out there besides myself does not know about the tutor, try using 'vimtutor.' Sincerely, James Henry Maiewski Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE - KOrganizer - Free/Busy
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 13:26, SOTL wrote: Hi All Does anyone have any idea of how to set up KOrganizer Free/Busy Where the setup ask for Server Information what server should be entered? Same for User Name and Password. Is the following correct? Server Information: mail.ISP.net User Name: Login Name to e-mail Password: email Password I don't think it is. As far as I know it only works if you have groupware set up. The kdepim-user list ([EMAIL PROTECTED], joined from the kde website) would be able to help. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp9thQwLpfYq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Yet Another RPMDrake question
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 15:48, Leaf wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 07:44, Robert Yu wrote: If I double-click on an RPM that's not listed in RPMDrake, will it be able to install? I am left to assume you have this RPM somewhere on your computer and you move your mouse over it and double left click and wonder if this action will allow it to auto-install? If this is what you are asking then no. It will open a window and you will view the contents of that RPM. You can right click on it and select the option that is Mandrake's package handler (I forget it's name, I am currently using another distro). If you run that packaged handler it will try and install it. If that RPM has dependencies you haven't handled it will fail but it will tell you what dependencies are required. From the command line you can also install the package via the rpm command. rpm -i packagename will work, if you aren't in the package's directory you will need the complete path in that name /etc/blah/blahblah.rpm for example. I have used rpm packages created with checkinstall, and a single click on them asks if I want to use Software Installer. That, of course, does handle dependencies. I think it's definitely worth a try. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpn8SzMzPsL7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
Duncan Anderson wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I like to make scripts a bit more bullet proof... I would probably change it to: for i in *.mp3 ; do name=$(basename $i .mp3) mpg123 -s $name.mp3 | sox -f 44100 -w -s -c 2 - $name.wav done This way, it handles files with spaces in the name, and you avoid having to use a temp file. The error generated by a file with a space in its name would not be a problem by itself, and using a temp file would not be a problem by it self. but if you get the wrong name, you could delete something other then what you intended to. For example, if you had a file called bridge over troubled water.mp3 and you also had a file called bridge in the same directory, you script would first overwrite, then delete bridge. Using basename in place of FILE=`echo $FILE | sed s/.mp3//g` also solves the problem of a file with .mp3 in more then one place in the name. It would probably not be a problem in any case, but you never know. Mikkel You are a scriptmaster of note, Mikkel. My version of the script works for me, because I always make sure that there are no spaces in the names first. Your refinement allows one to be more lazy! regards Duncan It comes from interacting with Windows users too much. After a while, you get in the habit of writing the scripts so the Windows file names don't break them. You also try to build them as safe as possible... Some things I try to keep in mind when writing scripts: lower case names for local varables - so you don't break things if you deside to source the code from another script. name.$$ for temp file names, so if two coppies of the script use the same directory for temp files, they don't interfere with each other. If you can use a pipe in place of a temp file, do so. If one of several commands can be used in a script, set a varable with the command name at the start of the script, and use the varable name in the script itself. That way, if you move the script to another system, all you need to do is edit one line at the start of the script. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies
aron smith wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 07:34 am, Duncan Anderson wrote: Frank, When you mention MC, what do you mean? (Midnight Commander?) cheers Duncan MC is a cloneof midnight commander urpmi mc How can something be a clone of itself? :-) Surely you mean mc is a clone of Norton Commander. Actually it is more of a case of Norton Commander on steroids. Anyway, I was wondering how mc could trash a hard drive. It sounds a bit wierd. I always use mc. It worries me that someone can blame it for hard disk failure. Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, In the More proof that I'm not the smartest guy in the world department, and in the hope that maybe someone out there is where I was a year or so ago, I want to say that Vim rocks! I had heard it many times, but since I couldn't just type 'vim foo' and go, I took the path of least resistance and suffered. So, if anybody out there besides myself does not know about the tutor, try using 'vimtutor.' Sincerely, James Henry Maiewski Glad to hear it! Learning to use vi never killed anybody. vim is brilliant. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: lower case names for local varables - so you don't break things if you deside to source the code from another script. Mikkel, Explain this to me, I don't quite follow your rationale here. I always use upper case for variable names so they can be clearly seen as such when one reads the scripts at a later stage. regards Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] New Naming convention release cycle
Just came across this (cross posted to expert) http://linuxtoday.com/it_management/2005032100826NWBZMD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
I am debating whether or not to upgrade to the 10.2 beta. Primarily the updates in KDE are appealing and some of the others as well. I know that I can get the iso's via bittorrent. Once burnt, how do I go about doing the upgrade? My main concern making sure that I don't lose any data. I can certainly backup my home directory to cd, but if I have to setup the users again then the ids will be wrong. Thanks in advance. -- Christopher Taylor - Registered Linux User #383327 If this message is sent to a mailing list please 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
On Monday 21 March 2005 18:10, Christopher Taylor wrote: I am debating whether or not to upgrade to the 10.2 beta. Primarily the updates in KDE are appealing and some of the others as well. I know that I can get the iso's via bittorrent. Once burnt, how do I go about doing the upgrade? My main concern making sure that I don't lose any data. I can certainly backup my home directory to cd, but if I have to setup the users again then the ids will be wrong. Thanks in advance. Boot from CD1 and select 'Upgrade' It will not touch the contents of your /home But be aware this is a **beta** there **will** be things wrong with it. Some things that currently work fine may stop working. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
Duncan Anderson wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: lower case names for local varables - so you don't break things if you deside to source the code from another script. Mikkel, Explain this to me, I don't quite follow your rationale here. I always use upper case for variable names so they can be clearly seen as such when one reads the scripts at a later stage. regards Duncan If you are using a varable in a loop, and its value only has meaning in that loop, but not in the rest of the script, use a lowercase name. For example: for name in *.txt ; do file $name done For small scripts, it is not too important, unless you do something like . script name or exec script name from inside another script. Then any changes made to a varable in the sourced script affect the calling script. If the name is upper case, then I know it is ether a shell varable, or it is set at the start of the script, and has the same value in the entire script. For example, I know MAIL is a shell varable pointing to the user's mail spool, and EDITOR, if it is set, is the user's preferred text editor. And if I see $SED, I know that it is the full path to sed, or a program that will act like sed when used in the script. If I see $name, I know to look for where it is set in the script. It should be fairly close to where it is used. If I see $Name, then I know may I have to look farther back in the code to see where it get set. I also know that I have to be carefull about how I change it. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:21:14 +0700, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The KDE3.4 is wonderful. I love it very much. However, there are still some hiccups that need to sort out, one of them is: I cannot shutdown my notebook. When I click on the log out then shutdown the screen blanks, then the logon screen appears again. Is this a bug? How can I fix it? I remember you that you can shutdown your computer running the command halt in a console. Are you using kdm or mdkkdm, Fajar? Thanks for resposing. I guess I'm using mdkkdm, but how do I know this? Fajar, You can check it out doing the following: MCC -- System -- Display Manager Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 18:10, Christopher Taylor wrote: I am debating whether or not to upgrade to the 10.2 beta. Primarily the updates in KDE are appealing and some of the others as well. I know that I can get the iso's via bittorrent. Once burnt, how do I go about doing the upgrade? My main concern making sure that I don't lose any data. I can certainly backup my home directory to cd, but if I have to setup the users again then the ids will be wrong. Thanks in advance. Christopher, from this I take it that you don't have your /home on a separate partition? We generally recommend having a separate partition because any reinstall or upgrade can leave that partition alone, so there's no possibility of losing data. If you have any spare space, make a new partition and get all your /home copied onto it. I seem to recall people saying that if you create a partition in Mandrake Control Center and say that you want it to be mounted as /home it will ask if you want your data copying across. Perhaps someone could confirm this? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpvDc6ZgF3J6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
On March 21, 2005 10:41, Duncan Anderson wrote: ... Learning to use vi never killed anybody. ... No, it just made them wish they were dead! 8^} Vi is one of those necessary evils, because sometimes when your system is really messed up, it's one the few things that will still work, and that can save you. But I would never use it when something more sane was available. Forget to hit i and all your typing gets executed as commands. If you're a touch typist, you look back to the screen and your whole file is trashed. Nothing to do but :q! and start over. Forget to hit esc after inserting and all your commands are embedded in your file instead of being executed. Oh, and don't forget, if you're at the end of a line, you have to use a instead of i. I could go on and on. Worst Editor Ever! (in the voice of Comic Book Guy) But I don't want to restart the Editor Wars! To each his/her own. 8^} -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Running apps on networked machine
I ssh'ed to another box on my network and ran Firefox. But instead of it running off the remote machine, it ran from my _local_ machine. Odd! How do I prevent that? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
On Monday 21 March 2005 06:44 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson's email resulted: 0.6 RATWR10_MESSID Message-ID has ratware pattern (HEXHEX.HEXHEX@) 0.1 HTML_60_70 BODY: Message is 60% to 70% HTML 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 6.1 T_RATWARE_OOPS_05 BODY: Spammer doesn't know how to use ratware properly ($) 0.3 MK_BAD_HTML_04 Bad HTML form. Doesn't have beginning or closing HTML tags. The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, ___ ~ not a complaint ~ just an observation :- Spam Assassin considers message 'not completely plain text' best rgds ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Running apps on networked machine
Miark wrote: I ssh'ed to another box on my network and ran Firefox. But instead of it running off the remote machine, it ran from my _local_ machine. Odd! How do I prevent that? Miark Miark; There's probably an option to do what you're trying. If I understand you correctly, you want the ability to launch an app from a remote system, and have it run from the local system. IE: Connect to PC #2 from PC #1, Launch a program on PC #2 from PC #1, and have the program run on PC #2's display? That possibility might be tough to do. But keep in mind that even though the application or program displays itself on PC #1, it's actually running on PC #2 and just allowing you to interact with it. It is using the CPU and RAM of PC #2 to perform the task you launched, but it's exporting the display of that program on PC #1. This is a direct and default action of ssh and the fact that it can export X-sessions. In fact, it's very much like LTSP. HTH's -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New Naming convention release cycle
On Monday 21 March 2005 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just came across this (cross posted to expert) http://linuxtoday.com/it_management/2005032100826NWBZMD Ahem...annual release, naming convention utilizing year released...looking mighty MS to me... How odd that this spring release will include the latest KDE 3.3? What is up with that? I think I will be sticking with PCLinuxOS and keeping an eye on Kubuntu's polishing. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:12:46 +, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 18:10, Christopher Taylor wrote: I am debating whether or not to upgrade to the 10.2 beta. Primarily the updates in KDE are appealing and some of the others as well. I know that I can get the iso's via bittorrent. Once burnt, how do I go about doing the upgrade? My main concern making sure that I don't lose any data. I can certainly backup my home directory to cd, but if I have to setup the users again then the ids will be wrong. Thanks in advance. Christopher, from this I take it that you don't have your /home on a separate partition? We generally recommend having a separate partition because any reinstall or upgrade can leave that partition alone, so there's no possibility of losing data. If you have any spare space, make a new partition and get all your /home copied onto it. I seem to recall people saying that if you create a partition in Mandrake Control Center and say that you want it to be mounted as /home it will ask if you want your data copying across. Perhaps someone could confirm this? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels My home is on a searate partition. I am just unfamiliar with the upgrade process. I started with a blank machine and let Mandrake do the rest. At installation, it created the 5 gig root, 1 gig swap, and 24 gig home partitions. I am not sure what files get upgraded and what files get left alone. -- Christopher Taylor - Registered Linux User #383327 If this message is sent to a mailing list please 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Running apps on networked machine
Miark wrote: I ssh'ed to another box on my network and ran Firefox. But instead of it running off the remote machine, it ran from my _local_ machine. Odd! How do I prevent that? Miark Miark, How did you determin that it ran from the local machine? One thing to keep in mind about X programs is that the machine they run on, and the machine they are controlled from, do not have to be the same. The X server a program connect to for control and display is controlled by the --display option on the command line, or the DISPLAY shell varable. With ssh, if X forwarding is enabled, then when you ssh to another box it set things up so X programs will connect to X on your local machine. If you want to start a program on a remote machine, and have it displayed on the remote machine, you have a much harder time. The default security settings are designed to prevent this. If they didn't, then anyone that could log into the remote box could, by starting the right software, monitor what the user at the console of that box is doing. Or have windows popping up all over the place on the screen, or other nasty stuff. Definity not something you want appening when you are trying to get some work done on the box. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 19:35, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On March 21, 2005 10:41, Duncan Anderson wrote: ... Learning to use vi never killed anybody. ... No, it just made them wish they were dead! 8^} Vi is one of those necessary evils, because sometimes when your system is really messed up, it's one the few things that will still work, and that can save you. But I would never use it when something more sane was available. Forget to hit i and all your typing gets executed as commands. If you're a touch typist, you look back to the screen and your whole file is trashed. Nothing to do but :q! and start over. Forget to hit esc after inserting and all your commands are embedded in your file instead of being executed. Oh, and don't forget, if you're at the end of a line, you have to use a instead of i. I could go on and on. Worst Editor Ever! (in the voice of Comic Book Guy) You know, this is one of those cases where 'experts' hit more trouble than newbies. Because you are unsure of yourself you progress very slowly, and you see immediately if something is not behaving as you expect. My knowledge of vi amounts to maybe half a dozen commands, but it can get me out of trouble, and that's all I ask of it. Don't ask me about emacs g But I don't want to restart the Editor Wars! To each his/her own. 8^} ;-) Couldn't resist it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgp2bHQ250PAx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
On Monday 21 March 2005 12:41 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote: Glad to hear it! Learning to use vi never killed anybody. vim is brilliant. But what about emacs? :p -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:12, Christopher Taylor wrote: My home is on a searate partition. I am just unfamiliar with the upgrade process. I started with a blank machine and let Mandrake do the rest. At installation, it created the 5 gig root, 1 gig swap, and 24 gig home partitions. I am not sure what files get upgraded and what files get left alone. In any future install, if you select 'use existing partitions' it will overwrite your root partition (it formats it first) but it will only format your /home directory if you choose to let it. I'd say that 5GB is not very big, though, so in a future install, if you have any spare space create another partition, say 4GB, for /usr. That should take some of the strain off it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpqiVCsrWtES.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:42:54 +, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:12, Christopher Taylor wrote: My home is on a searate partition. I am just unfamiliar with the upgrade process. I started with a blank machine and let Mandrake do the rest. At installation, it created the 5 gig root, 1 gig swap, and 24 gig home partitions. I am not sure what files get upgraded and what files get left alone. In any future install, if you select 'use existing partitions' it will overwrite your root partition (it formats it first) but it will only format your /home directory if you choose to let it. I'd say that 5GB is not very big, though, so in a future install, if you have any spare space create another partition, say 4GB, for /usr. That should take some of the strain off it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels Should I suggest that for future installs on the twiki? I also thought that the default for root seemed small. -- Christopher Taylor - Registered Linux User #383327 If this message is sent to a mailing list please 'Reply to List' or re-write the To field. This will save on a lot of duplicate emails going out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ADSL.
Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. With thanks for your time. Malcolm Candlish. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. With thanks for your time. Malcolm Candlish. As you can see ...works with Eclipse :-) Eclipse might not be cheapest, but is definitely reliable and no limits. I use a router, but I've just set up my mates box on Mandrake 10.1 and Eclipse with one of those little silver speedtouch thingys. Speedtouch suite worked like a charm. Any ISP should work with the router (even AOL?). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 March 2005 03:55 pm, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. Not a sir, but I am having no problem connecting with earthlink dialup regardless. -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Running apps on networked machine
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:35:26 -0600, Mikkel wrote: Miark wrote: I ssh'ed to another box on my network and ran Firefox. But instead of it running off the remote machine, it ran from my _local_ machine. Odd! How do I prevent that? Miark Miark, How did you determin that it ran from the local machine? 1) I have no bookmarks on the remote machine, but the instance of Firefox that ran had all the bookmarks from my local machine. Also, I use a theme on my local copy. 2) 'ps' on the remote machine did _not_ show Firefox running. And the plot thickens! It turns out that this happens only when I _already_ have Firefox running locally. If I kill all local instances, and then run it from the remote machine, I get the X-forwarded Firefox. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Attempting upgrade to 10.2 beta
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:46, Christopher Taylor wrote: Should I suggest that for future installs on the twiki? I also thought that the default for root seemed small. If you can see a page that would benefit from that, by all means add it. Anything that helps you may also help someone else. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpN4PqzZh1yQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] ADSL.
On Monday 21 Mar 2005 20:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Sirs, Can any one give me ideas on the best broadband provider for Mandrake-Linux. At present I have a dial up modem and have been so far attracted to Metronet who charge only £10 per month: although there are extra charges for heavy downloads. Do your costings carefully, particularly if you intend to download future distros or use bittorrent. My provider is mailbox.co.uk, which is not the cheapest, but because it is unlimited I think it is good value. Can Linux work with any provider as in the case of dial up. It's not so much that, as that many providers can't or won't work with linux. It's simple enough, really, if they will give you straightforward information that you need to set up your connection, but some simply will not talk to you if you are going to use linux. I would suggest that you email the support line of any provider you are considering, tell them that you are going to be using linux and ask if you will have any problems. You will quickly be able to tell from their replies whether they are going to be good to work with or a PITA. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpgrE4RZ03Jc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:35:30 -0700, Ron wrote: Vi is one of those necessary evils, because sometimes when your system is really messed up, it's one the few things that will still work, and that can save you. But I would never use it when something more sane was available. My sentiments exactly. I've had to use vi several times in a pinch, and was very glad to have know the basics. But the instant I can use something else--anything else--I do. But that said, I agree vimtutor is a great way to get the basics. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] hostname change
How do I change the PC host name ? Carlton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
On Monday 21 March 2005 2:35 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On March 21, 2005 10:41, Duncan Anderson wrote: ... Learning to use vi never killed anybody. ... No, it just made them wish they were dead! 8^} It certainly isn't as powerfull, or intuitive, as any GUI editor, but for things done in a terminal (especially when you need to root around in configs) not having to deal with the hassles of even emacs is quite the time saver. This having been said, I might have discovered it a bit late, becase there is also Kate, which really rocks (or would if it weren't for KDE bug No. 56229). However, as you say, when all else fails - JHM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] hostname change
riccardo wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 09:41 pm, Carlton Matthew wrote: How do I change the PC host name ? ~ by editing the file:/etc/HOSTNAME best rgds Nope. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location
SOTL wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:21, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote: Hi All I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system data files called /System_Data. I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /System_Data as its default file storage. I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one. My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is: datadir=/System_Data When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message: Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1. Fatail error in default handling. Program aborted. Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current should be modified. Frank It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir (pid_file=, basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin ) You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql which is the script that starts mysql Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql to /mnt/System_Data/mysql then you would not need to change any configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire. BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need to define a different one? derek Hi All and thanks Derek I have finally gotten back to the above issue in my attempts to resolve my setup issues. I have printed the instructions for Using Option Files as kindly pointed out to me by David G Stevenson located at: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/option-files.html If I understand Derek correctly my.cnf should look something like [mysql] datadir=/System_Data basedir=/ bindir=/usr/bin pid_file= This raises two issues to me. First what is a 'pid_file=' ? And where is it located? Second I do not find pid_file, basedir, or bindir mentioned in the MySQL Reference Manual:: 4.3.2 Using Option Files. Thus to say the least I am confused. if someone would mind enlighten me on correct procedure I would appreciate it. Thank Frank You may want to take a look at /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql to see were a lot of things are by default, and how they are set. If you leave pid_file= blank, it gets set in this file. The file gets created when mysql starts, and contains the Program ID (PID) of the MySQL server. Looking at this file, it looks like this is where you would set your data directory, and you would put my.cfg in the data directory you set in this file. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location
On Monday 21 March 2005 22:31, SOTL wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:21, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2005 14:42, SOTL wrote: Hi All I have created a partition on one of my computer to store critical system data files called /System_Data. I am trying to configure MySQL so that it will use /System_Data as its default file storage. I looked for /etc/my.cnf; found I did not have one so I generated one. My /etc/my.cnf files contains exactly 1 line which is: datadir=/System_Data When I start MySQL I now receive the following error message: Found option without preceding group in config file /etc/my.cnf at line 1. Fatail error in default handling. Program aborted. Would appreciate help in ascertaining what should be added or how current should be modified. Frank It is failing because having created a /etc/my.cnf file it is expecting to find other parameters defined in there in addition to datadir (pid_file=, basedir=/, bindir=/usr/bin ) You could alternatively edit the datadir path in /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql which is the script that starts mysql Alternatively if you create a symlink from /var/lib/mysql to /mnt/System_Data/mysql then you would not need to change any configuration and your data would go in the folder you desire. BTW: In Linux /var is the default directory to hold data so why do you need to define a different one? derek Hi All and thanks Derek I have finally gotten back to the above issue in my attempts to resolve my setup issues. I have printed the instructions for Using Option Files as kindly pointed out to me by David G Stevenson located at: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/option-files.html If I understand Derek correctly my.cnf should look something like [mysql] datadir=/System_Data basedir=/ bindir=/usr/bin pid_file= This raises two issues to me. First what is a 'pid_file=' ? And where is it located? Second I do not find pid_file, basedir, or bindir mentioned in the MySQL Reference Manual:: 4.3.2 Using Option Files. Thus to say the least I am confused. if someone would mind enlighten me on correct procedure I would appreciate it. Thank Frank The packager who built the Mandrake package for MySQL has created the file /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql to set up the defaults for MySQL so that a my.cnf file is unnecessary. I simply read that file and told you what the defaults were set to. I also told you that by using a symlink to /var/lib/mysql you could put your user data in a different folder without having to edit any files or create a my.cnf file. BTW: A pid file is a file usually kept in /var/run which identifies the Process Identifier number (pid) a daemon is using derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Yet Another RPMDrake question
Leaf, are you refering to RPMDrake? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MySQL File Location
Derek Jennings wrote: The packager who built the Mandrake package for MySQL has created the file /etc/rc5.d/S90mysql to set up the defaults for MySQL so that a my.cnf file is unnecessary. I simply read that file and told you what the defaults were set to. I also told you that by using a symlink to /var/lib/mysql you could put your user data in a different folder without having to edit any files or create a my.cnf file. BTW: A pid file is a file usually kept in /var/run which identifies the Process Identifier number (pid) a daemon is using derek Minnor correction - the file is actualy /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql. The files in /etc/rc.d/rc#.d are symlinks to the files in /etc/rc.d/init.d and are created/removed by chkconfig. The /etc/rc#.d entries are symlinks to the directories in /etc/rc.d. If you would like to know more about this, you may want to read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-7.61.1/sysvinitfiles. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MD 10.1 System Halt During Boot.
I have just installed MD 10.1 using the download version ISOs that come with a magazine I purchase. The installation was without error until it come time to reboot. During the boot process I see it stopping at the point where I am assuming itÂ’s trying to detect USB devices. Regardless of how many times I boot, it always stops at the same point. I am using a Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse which happens to be USB. This is the only USB device I use. I have had a quick look in the archives and get the impression that MD 10.1 suffers from USB issues. What is needed to get the installation I have up and running ? Regards Pete Moscatt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MD 10.1 System Halt During Boot.
Pete Moscatt wrote: I have just installed MD 10.1 using the download version ISOs that come with a magazine I purchase. The installation was without error until it come time to reboot. During the boot process I see it stopping at the point where I am assuming its trying to detect USB devices. Regardless of how many times I boot, it always stops at the same point. I am using a Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse which happens to be USB. This is the only USB device I use. I have had a quick look in the archives and get the impression that MD 10.1 suffers from USB issues. What is needed to get the installation I have up and running ? Regards Pete Moscatt I would boot without the mouse plugged in, and see if it boots. If it does, then plug the mouse in. Then make sure you have all the updates installed. After installing the updates, see if the system boots ok with the USB mouse plugged in. If not, let us know, and we can explore other options. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] USB card reader problem
Card reader arrived today so thought I would try it out! Big mistake! I read instructions on a board and following that took a look using HardDrake - don't know if this is it or not. Instructions said to look at hda. It says old device file: /dev/hda and just below New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. That's when I should have posted! Thought I would plug it in and see if it would auto detect on reboot, but it hung at starting ALSA. So unplugged it and rebooted without it, but still hung at ALSA. So here I am in windows begging for help to get mandrake going again. Frank I don't where I'm at with your requests because I can't get to my emails in mandrake! Thanks in advance Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem
i am so sorry to hear about that, Rosemary ... i was so sure it would work, i never heard of anyone getting problems for pluging in a usb drive ... otherwise i would have told you to make a backup first. do you also think that maybe your version of mandrake has some underlying problems ? ALSA is the sound server, right ? what if you installed a fresh version of mandrake ? i often needed to do that, with any operating system i had. kind regards philippe -- Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Card reader arrived today so thought I would try it out! Big mistake! I read instructions on a board and following that took a look using HardDrake - don't know if this is it or not. Instructions said to look at hda. It says old device file: /dev/hda and just below New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. That's when I should have posted! Thought I would plug it in and see if it would auto detect on reboot, but it hung at starting ALSA. So unplugged it and rebooted without it, but still hung at ALSA. So here I am in windows begging for help to get mandrake going again. Frank I don't where I'm at with your requests because I can't get to my emails in mandrake! Thanks in advance Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem
Philippe Landau wrote: i am so sorry to hear about that, Rosemary ... i was so sure it would work, i never heard of anyone getting problems for pluging in a usb drive ... otherwise i would have told you to make a backup first. do you also think that maybe your version of mandrake has some underlying problems ? ALSA is the sound server, right ? what if you installed a fresh version of mandrake ? i often needed to do that, with any operating system i had. kind regards philippe Reinstalling Mandrake should be a last resort. It isn't something you should have to resort to. Knowing what you did before you had the problem is always a good place to start... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:07, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:21:14 +0700, Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The KDE3.4 is wonderful. I love it very much. However, there are still some hiccups that need to sort out, one of them is: I cannot shutdown my notebook. When I click on the log out then shutdown the screen blanks, then the logon screen appears again. Is this a bug? How can I fix it? I remember you that you can shutdown your computer running the command halt in a console. Are you using kdm or mdkkdm, Fajar? Thanks for resposing. I guess I'm using mdkkdm, but how do I know this? Fajar, You can check it out doing the following: MCC -- System -- Display Manager Paul Thanks Paul, After I change it from mdkkdm to kdm, I can shutdown normally again. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 09:46:46 up 7 min, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MD 10.1 System Halt During Boot.
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 08:49, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I would boot without the mouse plugged in, and see if it boots. If it does, then plug the mouse in. Then make sure you have all the updates installed. After installing the updates, see if the system boots ok with the USB mouse plugged in. If not, let us know, and we can explore other options. Mikkel Yes, try to localize the problem. However, I'm using usb optical mouse too (china brand though.. very generic and cheap :)). But, hardware problems are always specific and difficult to solve sometimes. Trial and error methods are the best way most of the time. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 10:02:21 up 23 min, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Games recommendation
Hi folks, I've been browsing to the package available in mdk10.1, and I find many interesting packages once I click on them and read the description. Right now, I've just passed the packages start with 'b', phew..! I'm now installing many interesting games, such as adonthell, brutal, and.. many rpg like games I forgot the names :) Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress level? Thanks :) -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 10:05:02 up 25 min, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:48:16 +0700, Fajar wrote: Thanks Paul, After I change it from mdkkdm to kdm, I can shutdown normally again. Since I switched to XFCE, I figured I didn't have anything to lose by upgrading KDE to 3.4, so I did. Well, as it turns out, I _did_ have something to lose :-) Now when I boot, it hangs on ALSA, and the display manager was screwy, too. I switched to the non-MDK manager, and that fixed the manager problem. As for ALSA, I do an interactive startup and choose No for ALSA which gets me over than problem, too. This means I'll have to do an interactive startup each time to not run ALSA, but oh well. It's not like I reboot every week. Oh, it seems kcontrol does _not_ appear anywhere in my menus, so I have to run it from the commandline. Again, no biggie. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Games recommendation
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:08:24 +0700, Fajar wrote: Hi folks, I've been browsing to the package available in mdk10.1, and I find many interesting packages once I click on them and read the description. Right now, I've just passed the packages start with 'b', phew..! I'm now installing many interesting games, such as adonthell, brutal, and.. many rpg like games I forgot the names :) Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress level? Thanks :) UT2004. And I've been enjoying the original Quake lately, too. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
Miark wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:48:16 +0700, Fajar wrote: Thanks Paul, After I change it from mdkkdm to kdm, I can shutdown normally again. Since I switched to XFCE, I figured I didn't have anything to lose by upgrading KDE to 3.4, so I did. Well, as it turns out, I _did_ have something to lose :-) Now when I boot, it hangs on ALSA, and the display manager was screwy, too. I switched to the non-MDK manager, and that fixed the manager problem. As for ALSA, I do an interactive startup and choose No for ALSA which gets me over than problem, too. This means I'll have to do an interactive startup each time to not run ALSA, but oh well. It's not like I reboot every week. Oh, it seems kcontrol does _not_ appear anywhere in my menus, so I have to run it from the commandline. Again, no biggie. Miark Quick, cheap, and dirty fix if you are not going to be starting ALSA anyway: chkconfig alsa off. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Games recommendation
On Monday 21 March 2005 10:08 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi folks, I've been browsing to the package available in mdk10.1, and I find many interesting packages once I click on them and read the description. Right now, I've just passed the packages start with 'b', phew..! I'm now installing many interesting games, such as adonthell, brutal, and.. many rpg like games I forgot the names :) Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress level? Thanks :) You don't have to browse by name; you can rearrange it by category. That way you can see all the games in one or two piles. :) I think they're under Graphical Desktop [then KDE, GNOME or OTHER] Games I like LBreakout, KBounce, Kolorlines, Gnotski Mahjong. KGoldrunner is like Super Mario Brothers GTali is like Yahtzee. I think some of these are in the KDE games package and or the Gnome games package. have fun -- Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If you are using a varable in a loop, and its value only has meaning in that loop, but not in the rest of the script, use a lowercase name. For example: for name in *.txt ; do file $name done For small scripts, it is not too important, unless you do something like . script name or exec script name from inside another script. Then any changes made to a varable in the sourced script affect the calling script. If the name is upper case, then I know it is ether a shell varable, or it is set at the start of the script, and has the same value in the entire script. For example, I know MAIL is a shell varable pointing to the user's mail spool, and EDITOR, if it is set, is the user's preferred text editor. And if I see $SED, I know that it is the full path to sed, or a program that will act like sed when used in the script. If I see $name, I know to look for where it is set in the script. It should be fairly close to where it is used. If I see $Name, then I know may I have to look farther back in the code to see where it get set. I also know that I have to be carefull about how I change it. Mikkel OK. I see what your system is. It makes sense, but it may add an element of complication where it is not needed. Since there is no practical restriction on the length of variable names that I know of, I simply make sure that I have no duplicates and that I do not invoke subshells which do not initialise their variables correctly. Thanks for all your, as usual, enlightening comments. I think this thread is going too far away from newbie interest, though. regards Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
On Friday 18 March 2005 19:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What do people use for making music cds from mp3s? I have an old italian cd burning software on my old NT machine that happily does this automatically, is there something similar avaialable? Is K3B too easy to use for you guys? That's what I use to record audio cds from mp3s, on the off chance I need to. Rob -- Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem
Philippe Landau wrote: i am so sorry to hear about that, Rosemary ... i was so sure it would work, i never heard of anyone getting problems for pluging in a usb drive ... otherwise i would have told you to make a backup first. Hey - not your fault. do you also think that maybe your version of mandrake has some underlying problems ? ALSA is the sound server, right ? For some reason it hung there too when a I attempted to install a USB mouse a few weeks ago. what if you installed a fresh version of mandrake ? i often needed to do that, with any operating system i had. Maybe - will wait and see. Guess this is where linux fixability is put to the test! Only problem is the operator! :-) regards Rosemary -- Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Card reader arrived today so thought I would try it out! Big mistake! I read instructions on a board and following that took a look using HardDrake - don't know if this is it or not. Instructions said to look at hda. It says "old device file: /dev/hda" and just below " New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc". That's when I should have posted! Thought I would plug it in and see if it would auto detect on reboot, but it hung at "starting ALSA". So unplugged it and rebooted without it, but still hung at ALSA. So here I am in windows begging for help to get mandrake going again. Frank I don't where I'm at with your requests because I can't get to my emails in mandrake! Thanks in advance Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem
Reinstalling Mandrake should be a last resort. It isn't something you should have to resort to. Knowing what you did before you had the problem is always a good place to start... Mikkel I have also posted to a local user group, and if I cannot get it going myself have the option of trying to get to one of their meetings, and they will help me there. The nearest group is over an hour away though - why I don't go to the meetings. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Linux maintenance - fresh install (Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem
i am so sorry to hear about that, Rosemary ... i was so sure it would work, i never heard of anyone getting problems for pluging in a usb drive ... otherwise i would have told you to make a backup first. Hey - not your fault. thanks :-) do you also think that maybe your version of mandrake has some underlying problems ? ALSA is the sound server, right ? For some reason it hung there too when a I attempted to install a USB mouse a few weeks ago. someone mentions the same problem with mandrake on his box tonight. what if you installed a fresh version of mandrake ? i often needed to do that, with any operating system i had. Maybe - will wait and see. Guess this is where linux fixability is put to the test! Only problem is the operator! :-) yes. and i am not inclined to dabble in CLI for days sorting out traffic problems in Linux's guts :-) so i do a new and additional backup of /home and /data (my data :-) to an external harddisk, disconnect, format the internal harddisk (enjoy the fresh air :-) and install a spanking new copy of my favourite Linux :-) it's like a bath in a mountain river. kind regards philippe -- Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Card reader arrived today so thought I would try it out! Big mistake! I read instructions on a board and following that took a look using HardDrake - don't know if this is it or not. Instructions said to look at hda. It says old device file: /dev/hda and just below New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. That's when I should have posted! Thought I would plug it in and see if it would auto detect on reboot, but it hung at starting ALSA. So unplugged it and rebooted without it, but still hung at ALSA. So here I am in windows begging for help to get mandrake going again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Auld lang syne.
Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 21 March 2005 12:41 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote: Glad to hear it! Learning to use vi never killed anybody. vim is brilliant. But what about emacs? :p I don't think anyone has actually died from using emacs. However, I'm not too sure what the statistics are regarding people who have died of old age waiting for it to compile. :-) Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Games recommendation
Il mar, 2005-03-22 alle 04:08, Fajar Priyanto ha scritto: Hi folks, I've been browsing to the package available in mdk10.1, and I find many interesting packages once I click on them and read the description. Right now, I've just passed the packages start with 'b', phew..! I'm now installing many interesting games, such as adonthell, brutal, and.. many rpg like games I forgot the names :) Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress level? Thanks :) Quadra , a tetris-like multiplayer game , more addictive, for speedy handy man, up to 8-players multiplayer-game on public internet servers. I love it , when you are work-stressed ,take a 10 min. break, 5 min go out and 5 play with it .Enjoy!! Regards, Francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Wine
Robert Yu wrote: Does Wine support Visual Studio.NET yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Lol; highly doubtful (Though technically I don't really know) You could try downloading MonoBundle 1.1.4 from mono-project.com, or whatever the latest it. It's a project aimed at duplicating Visual studio and the .NET framework. The recently released beta Winforms support, which isn't ready for production use yet, but is fun to tinker with. Winforms are expected to be up to par within the next few months, and once that's the case then Mono will be a viable substitute for VS .NET. All the same the IDE, MonoDevelop, has been slow in development, so if your a newbie looking for ULTRA-easy UI creation, you'd better stick with M$ form designer. But if you need to develop in a production environment, Mono is all you'll need :-). (VS still rocks though, weather or not there's a M$ scheme behind it) SigmaX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firefox gone bad
Aidan Holmes wrote: Miark wrote: You may have to blow away your ~/.mozilla directory. Actually, I'd rename it to something else, let Firefox make a new directory, then copy my bookmarks from the old directory to the new. Miark Can't seem to find the .mozilla directory - any clues as to where to look? Since I still rely on urpmi (and can't see a good reason not to at this stage) I still have no idea where things get installed on my system. Aidan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com /home/[username]/.mozilla filenames starting with a . are hidden. I belief in nautilus and konqueror you can set it to display hidden files, just like Windows' explorer, if you need to. SigmaX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3.4 cannot shutdown
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi all, The KDE3.4 is wonderful. I love it very much. However, there are still some hiccups that need to sort out, one of them is: I cannot shutdown my notebook. When I click on the log out then shutdown the screen blanks, then the logon screen appears again. Is this a bug? How can I fix it? Thanks, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Couldn't help but notice this... is KDE 3.4 in one of the Mandrake releases or betas yes? Haven't used Mandrake on an HD recently (Debian addict here), but I use Move occasionally. Debian has 3.3 in the unstable branch, but 3.4 hasn't popped up yet (Like so many others it's probably being held back in anticipation of their upcoming stable release of Debian GNU/Linux 3.1), nor Gnome 2.10. rant And of course, I love to tinker with the latest GUIs, and laugh about M$ inferior UI while I can (I fear Longhorn will be ahead, if it's really 3d like they claimed at first... wish those *NIX 3d DE projects would get a little more spotlight :-), they might grow faster). Of course if Longhorn's GUI is simply what they released as a download for Windows XP, that they called Longhorn, then it's simply XP with the theme thingy opened up... so you don't need M$ Plus just to theme the desktop. KDE's had that since... well... forever ;-). /rant Cheerio, SigmaX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandrake Move question...
Hey; I'm headed on a 5-week vacation next month, and downloaded Mandrake Move this weekend to see what it'd do for me. I think it's coolio, and I have a little 64MB USB pendrive, that it mounts automatically under /mnt/windows of all things (I guess 'cause of the FAT filesystem). The description from the Mandrake website said something about the commercial edition of Move automatically using your configuration and files to a USB key. When it says 'configuration', does that mean that it will save... say... the way I have my KDE 3.2 desktop themed and all that to the pendrive, so that when I start up Mandrake Move on another computer later in my trip I'll still have the same setup that I configured to start with? If that's the case, then I'd consider purchasing Move (My first OS purchase in a while... Me be spoiled Linux-Downloader) ... but if not, then I'd just use it as a toy to test out systems with or show people Linux, rather than as a mobile guest computer. Thanx! SigmaX PS: Please CC me any reply Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Linux maintenance - fresh install (Re: [newbie] USB card reader problem
thanks :-) do you also think that maybe your version of mandrake has some underlying problems ? ALSA is the sound server, right ? For some reason it hung there too when a I attempted to install a USB mouse a few weeks ago. someone mentions the same problem with mandrake on his box tonight. I gather from the reading I've done that USB is a bit of an issue for some Mandrake users. what if you installed a fresh version of mandrake ? i often needed to do that, with any operating system i had. Maybe - will wait and see. Guess this is where linux fixability is put to the test! Only problem is the operator! :-) yes. and i am not inclined to dabble in CLI for days sorting out traffic problems in Linux's guts :-) so i do a new and additional backup of /home and /data (my data :-) to an external harddisk, disconnect, format the internal harddisk (enjoy the fresh air :-) and install a spanking new copy of my favourite Linux :-) it's like a bath in a mountain river. kind regards philippe No - well I'm still wary of the command line as root, anything as root. I'd have a go at a reinstall but worry about Lilo and losing the dual boot. In any case I think it'll be recoverable, I just don't know how, but will follow Dennis's suggestion, which matches what the local LUG advised. Regards Rosemary -- Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Card reader arrived today so thought I would try it out! Big mistake! I read instructions on a board and following that took a look using HardDrake - don't know if this is it or not. Instructions said to look at hda. It says "old device file: /dev/hda" and just below " New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc". That's when I should have posted! Thought I would plug it in and see if it would auto detect on reboot, but it hung at "starting ALSA". So unplugged it and rebooted without it, but still hung at ALSA. So here I am in windows begging for help to get mandrake going again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Move question...
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 07:09, SigmaX wrote: Hey; I'm headed on a 5-week vacation next month, and downloaded Mandrake Move this weekend to see what it'd do for me. I think it's coolio, and I have a little 64MB USB pendrive, that it mounts automatically under /mnt/windows of all things (I guess 'cause of the FAT filesystem). The description from the Mandrake website said something about the commercial edition of Move automatically using your configuration and files to a USB key. When it says 'configuration', does that mean that it will save... say... the way I have my KDE 3.2 desktop themed and all that to the pendrive, so that when I start up Mandrake Move on another computer later in my trip I'll still have the same setup that I configured to start with? If that's the case, then I'd consider purchasing Move (My first OS purchase in a while... Me be spoiled Linux-Downloader) ... but if not, then I'd just use it as a toy to test out systems with or show people Linux, rather than as a mobile guest computer. Thanx! SigmaX PS: Please CC me any reply Yes it does. But before you purchase MandrakeMove why not try out PCLOS first. It is a fork of Mandrake. It works as a 'liveCD' like Mandrake Move, with the additional option of being able to install itself to your hard drive. It comes with Nvidia drivers/Flash/Java built in, and is able to store your /home files on a USB flash drive. PCLOS is available as a free download at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/index.html See the FAQ for booting with USB key. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3s to wav/cd burning
Duncan Anderson wrote: JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:37:18 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following: What do people use for making music cds from mp3s? Check out ROXDAO. The site is offline right now, but check it out later, very nice GUI for burning audio CD's, you can see a shot of it on my site. http://kymatica.com/software.html I am having problems accessing that URL. Anyway, for the newbie, k3b works pretty well. If you have lame installed, k3b allows you to create audio cds from mp3 files by simply dragging and dropping. Otherwise, you can use various methods via the shell. One that I always used to use was this: for FILE in *.mp3 do FILE=`echo $FILE | sed s/.mp3//g` mpg123 -s $FILE.mp3 $FILE.raw sox -r 44100 -w -s -c 2 $FILE.raw $FILE.wav rm -f $FILE.raw done This would convert all the mp3 files in a directory to .wav files. Then: cdrecord -scanbus -dev=0,0,0 cdrecord -v speed=2 -dev=0,0,0 -audio -pad *.wav Substitute the 0,0,0 for the relevant device setting for your system. This setup is for an external USB2.0 cdwriter configured as /dev/sr0. Then, after all that, remove the .wav files. cheers Duncan I like to make scripts a bit more bullet proof... I would probably change it to: for i in *.mp3 ; do name=$(basename $i .mp3) mpg123 -s $name.mp3 | sox -f 44100 -w -s -c 2 - $name.wav done This way, it handles files with spaces in the name, and you avoid having to use a temp file. The error generated by a file with a space in its name would not be a problem by itself, and using a temp file would not be a problem by it self. but if you get the wrong name, you could delete something other then what you intended to. For example, if you had a file called bridge over troubled water.mp3 and you also had a file called bridge in the same directory, you script would first overwrite, then delete bridge. Using basename in place of FILE=`echo $FILE | sed s/.mp3//g` also solves the problem of a file with .mp3 in more then one place in the name. It would probably not be a problem in any case, but you never know. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
