RE: [newbie] Dad hates MS!! Now what?
Well Tommy, If he's dangereous (as you said) I guess he's exactly the right person to try Linux, beside with distributions like Mandrake you dont need to be an expert to play around with Linux, and even betrer you dont have to suggest any applications, Mandrake is full of em, you just tell him which is for what ( If he couldnt guess from the names :) Dangereous guy + Mandrake + newbie@linux-mandrake URL + enough time = A linuxian in the making and maybe YOU will learn from him later on ;) Regards, = Original Message From Tommy Eaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Hi all, I was chatting with my dad the other night about his adventures with Windows XP. He starts out with Man, I hate Microsoft! :-D Ok, so now what? I mentioned Mandrake to him and he seems interested... However, I don't know where to point him. What applications should I suggest? And for support, should I just point him to this list? He knows just enough to be dangerous (would Interactive Bastille help with that? - you know, something to protect yourself from yourself)... Unfortunately he doesn't live local so I couldn't set it up for him (unless somehow over the net?). I'm very much a newbie to this operating system, and Linux and general. But if you have any ideas how to help the process of a 50 year old Dad interested in a Microsoft alternative, please let me know. Thanks! - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: setting a 10/100 NIC 's speed
Hi All, I have posted last week asking if there is a way I can set the 10/100 NIC's speed to 10, and some one suggested that it is easer to set the hub's speed instead. I tried netconf, harddrake, Mandrake control center, I couldnt find anyplace hat lets you set the NIC's speed ?! I checked the hub and its auto detecting, ther's no way I can set its speed. Does anybody else have other suggestion ? Just in case I'm looking at the wrong direction, I'm trying to lower the card's speed coz my ISP guy told me that the reason my linux box is getting disconnected from the DSL every now and then is becoz, my NIC is trying to connect at 100 speed while the internal networking in the wall ( which conects me to their DSL ) can only handle 10 ! I'm kind of getting specticle here, but my W2K box ( whcih have a seperate IP ) is not getting disconnected after I set the speed of the NIC to 10 - ANy suggestions Appreciated. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] setting a 10/100 NIC 's speed
Hello everyone, Is it possible to manually set the NIC's card speed like in Windows ? I have a 10/100 ethernet PCMCI card and I dont want it to connect withe the 100 speed, where can I set this ?? Regards. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LAN with 2 IP's from DSL povider ?
Thank you Brian, but the point is I already had this connection sharing, and I was able to set it up with the help of some list members ( infact you were the one who helped me out alot back then :) ) but the problem is that while having this sharing, and Linux was used as a firewall, and Bastille was running...etc. I had performance problems, my connection used to go down a lot, and when I contacted the ISP their technician came in and said that the reason why I was getting disconnected is becoz the NIC was trying to connect with a 100 speed while the line can only handle 10, thats why i was getting disconnected too often. He said he didnt know how to force the card to connect with 10 under linux, so he offered me a new IP ( without paying for it though :) I posted another question on the list asking if I can force the card to connect with 10 speed, Isnt there a way to concet both PCs while them having the 2 IP's ? I really liked the idea coz back then my w2k machine had to get off the net whenever I needed to take my notebook ( the linux machine ) with me to school ( which used to piss off my 4 years old son as he couldnt surf pbskids.org while I wasnt at home :) ) I just need them to be on the same LAN so that i can share the printer and browse both hard drives using samba. ():-) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] LAN with 2 IP's from DSL povider ?
Hi, picture this setting : linux box with 10.x.x.x IP ( IP prvided by the DSL provider ) HUB W2K box with 10.x.x.y IP ( another IP prvided by the DSL provider ) the two boxes connects to a HUB and the UP-link on the HUB connects to the DSL coming from the phone line on the wall ( the DSL ) technically speaking, are these two machines considered to be on one LAN ?! If so ... How can these 2 mahines be set to see each others drives and share a printer ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tar/zip then untar/unzip (in detail though )
Hi, Hi All, On my machine that dual boots Linux 8.1 and Win89 ( which I have no CD burner on ) I need to do the following: 1- tar and zip my /home folder and save it on the D: partition ( a win fat32 partition ) 2- I'll split the partition I have linux on right now into two partitions: / and /home 3- I'll do a fresh install 4- then I want to restore the /home I just saved on the win partition to the new /home I just created. I need somebody to tell me what are the commands I need to run for the taring and zipping, and then untarring and unzipping into the new /home directory :) ( in details please, but not with the regular: do a command -x option without the quots thing ) And If everything went fine,will my mail that I saved in a folder under KDE be saved as well ? or no ? thanks for your patience :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tar/zip then untar/unzip (in detail though )
Many Thanks Darwin Robin ...and they say Linux lacks the support !! cheers - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] You folks are great
Civileme, Thank you so much for all the help... I'v been a list member for I guess 2-3 months only, but It was THEE most fruitfull experience I'v ever had in any of the lists I'v ever joined in my internet life, apparently because of the wonderfull people like you. Hope you have a good time answering weird questions in the Expert list :) I'v always thought of it... those experts and gurus have it all and now they even have YOU ):-O Regards All NewbieListers. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ssh / telneting
Okay how about when you want to telente to a computer that is behind a firewall ? my linux box home is part of a network and I think it is behind a firewall ( not really a firewall but a router I guess ) meaning that all PC's here share one IP on the internet ( and every on's got an internal IP inside ). When I visit some sites that allows me to see the IP address of my machine, I see a port number as well. SO, does this mean I can telnet to my PC using this IP+ port combination: say telnet 111.222.333.444:454 ?? ( assuming I let the telnet/ssh option open in my firewall ) ?? Regards All. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: gaim went silent ?!
Hi again, I fixed this problem, I thought I'd post the solution so that the person who said he/she share the same problem would fix it too and enjoy sounds again :) go to: Tools | preferences | Sounds then in the options box | Sound Method == choose : Command and when the box below Command becomes activated type the following: soundwrapper play %s choose whatever .wav files that you want or just leave the default ones, and BINGO your sounds will start playing again :) Hi All, this is not exactly a Mandrake question, but I dont know where to ask it .. so bare with me please :) all of the sudden my gaim went silent !! no sounds when incoming messages, nor outgoing, nor when contacts on my list sign in or out ... donnow why ?! the sounds preferences are set to : ESD, I dont know what does that stands for but I tried the other options, and non worked also. I had set the sounds to play .wav files that I specified in the preferences, and they used to work fine. I dont remember doing anything that could'v effected this. there are other programs that are using the sound system or anything ... I also upgraded to gaim 0.56 today ... ! any clues ? Regards, - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel panic: attempted to kill init!
I had the same problem with Mandrake 8.2 after install went all smooth, I rebooted and the same thing happened: : : kernel panic attemp to kill init! : and I had to shut down the system manually. I was installing it on a system with the following specs: Intel P4 1.6 GHz mainboard: ATX / XP4 chipset built in ether LAN 256 RAM GeForce2 MX VGA card Sound blaster Live 40 G HD first 3 G == win2000 ntfs next 8 G == fat32 partition next a swap patrition ( dont remember how big ) next 5 G ext2 / next 8 G ext2 /home rest id free space. thats about all . :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question about a Linux box in an Windows Domain
Randy, What is the name of this samba client u run in the linux box ? and can i use urpmi to install it ? thanks. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NetBEUI on Linux?
Is there a way to get my Mandrake 8.1 laptop to see my Windows desktop using NetBEUI? Can't use TCP/IP at the moment because the desktop's ip is assigned via the cable modem. Wally, I have a similar situation, but with LM on the notebook and W2k on the desktop. ( my notebook doesnt travel alot theough ). Like someboy here suggested in the theread,I also suggest that you make LM your gateway to the internet,you cna do that either by: 1) using internet connection sharing from Mandrake control center. 2) Or by editting the /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.cfg file in case you are running bastill ofcourse ( and you can know if you are running bastill or not either by looking for a line that says: starting bastille firewall [OK] or by running the command ( as root: /etc/rc.d/init.d/bastille-firewall status in the console ( u should see a set of lines scrolling through the screen if it is working ). read my thread on this where LOTS of this List's Knights helped me out on this :) it was under the name: [newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!! you will find some of the files that need to be configured and some very usefull info. but even without making linux your gateway, I belive you can still make win your gateway with little effort,( I heard that from somebody , yet I'm not aware of how much is this little effort :) Good Luck. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!!
I just did that..added: TRUSTED_IFACES=lo eth2 noting changed. and yes I restarted the network on both machines. But thanks, I lost hope that someone would ever reply to my question :) Any other suggestions ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!!
Hello again, There seemed to be a missing post somewhere ..as I found some suggestions in Gerald's reply whcih I never seen before !? Anyway, I tried configuring the bastille-firewall.cfg with the notes in this post, and I finally was able to ping the linux box from the w2k machine :) yet I cannot do that by hostname : e.g I can only ping 192.168.0.1 but not by the machines name although it is correctly listed in the hosts file on the w2k machine. ALso when I ran: /etc/rc.d/init.d/bastille-firewall start I got the following warning: You have Bastille configured for masquerading and you have enabled Mandrake's Internet Connection Sharing. We will use Bastille's rules. To get rid of this warning, use DrakConf to disable Internet Connection Sharing or disable Bastille's ICS by setting IP_MASQ_NETWORK to in /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.cfg Shall I really disable connection sharing in mandrake control center ? or can I just ignore this ? And now I wanna make sure I understood this situation correctly: its Bastill-firewall who does the iptables rules implicitly ? so one should not use iptables anymore if he/she is running bastille ? THANKS A LOT Brian and Gerald :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!!
Ohh I forgot , when I ran InteractiveBastille from as root, this is what I got: [root@hanan hanan]# InteractiveBastille Using Tk user interface module. Only displaying questions relevant to the current configuration. Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in INC (INC contains: /usr/lib /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/ /usr/lib/Bastille) at /usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille line 276. [root@hanan hanan]# - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!!
I added all the ### entries I'm very very thankful, you cant imagine how this problem was getting on my nervs !! Be careful of the hosts file in windows. 192.168.0.1 hanan.localnet.tld hanan The '1' in 192 must be at the absolute begining of the line no spaces, no tabs I checked that, it is written correctly. Any way I wot bother now with why cant I ping the machine with its name rather than with its IP :) Try setting IP_MASQ_NETWORK to first If that doesn't work then try disable connection sharing It may be that they are mutually exclusive. I did that and the messag disapeared, now it tells me this : [root@hanan hanan]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/bastille-firewall start Enabling Mandrake Internet Connection sharing If you would like to use Bastille's masquerading support instead, edit /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.cfg (especially the IP_MASQ_NETWORK setting) and run /etc/rc.d/init.d/bastille-firewall start to use Bastille's masquerading/connection sharing rules. And the ping is still working, so I guess I'm fine with that too :) Now I gotta move on to the main issue which is how can I share the files between the 2, shall I go samba ? or ftp ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!!
Go to linuxconf/networking and look at resolution.. It should be hosts, dns If it isn't, then you will have problems linuxconf | networking | Misc | hostname search path shows hosts, dns what does [cat /etc/sysconfig/network | grep HOSTNAME say does it say hanan.homelan.com ? It says: HOSTNAME=hanan.homelan.com - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] iptables / ipchains / bastille ??!!
Hi every one, I spent the past 2 days ( almost ) reading about how to set ip masquerading , iptables, ipchains, setting NFS etc. just to be able to put my hands on the problem why cant my w2k machine ping the linux machine ( both on a lan where linux machine has 2 eth cards, one IP for external network (internet with a static IP ) and the other eth for local network with IP 192.168.0.1 ) to hopefully fix this ping issue, SO FINALLY I'd be able to share my files between the 2 machines needless to say I couldnt come up with the fix :( Now I desperatly need some expert here (or non expert ) to answer my following question PLEASE :( During a thorough investigation of the files on my LM 8.1 system which I set up as a router to my home lan ( I set up the internet sharing and networking stuff ..ect using Mandrake control center) I found that there are the following files on my LM 8.1 sys: /etc/Bastille/bastille-firewall.cfg I'll list the relevant contents of this file ( only uncommented lines ) DNS_SERVERS=205.177.x.x 205.177.x.x TRUSTED_IFACES=lo PUBLIC_IFACES=eth+ ppp+ slip+ INTERNAL_IFACES= TCP_AUDIT_SERVICES=telnet ftp imap pop3 finger sunrpc exec login linuxconf sh UDP_AUDIT_SERVICES=31337 ICMP_AUDIT_TYPES= TCP_PUBLIC_SERVICES=22 25 109 110 143 23 53 MINIMAL/SAFEST UDP_PUBLIC_SERVICES=53 TCP_INTERNAL_SERVICES= UDP_INTERNAL_SERVICES= FORCE_PASV_FTP=N TCP_BLOCKED_SERVICES=6000:6020 UDP_BLOCKED_SERVICES=2049 ICMP_ALLOWED_TYPES=destination-unreachable echo-reply time-exceeded IP_MASQ_NETWORK= IP_MASQ_MODULES= REJECT_METHOD=DENY DHCP_IFACES= NTP_SERVERS= ICMP_OUTBOUND_DISABLED_TYPES=destination-unreachable time-exceeded DROP_SMB_NAT_BCAST=Y - and this file : /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall === which have the following content: # Automatically added by drakgw [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.inet_sharing ] /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.inet_sharing # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter - And another file : /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall.inet_sharing-2.4 which have the following content: #!/bin/sh modprobe iptable_nat echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -p udp --sport bootpc --dport bootps -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -p tcp --sport bootpc --dport bootps -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -p udp --sport bootps --dport bootpc -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -p tcp --sport bootps --dport bootpc -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -p udp --dport domain -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -p tcp --dport domain -j ACCEPT I tried applying some changes to the peceeding files, and it resulted in either no changes / or breaking the connection sharing .. If somebody can tell me what exactly shall I change, or even how does this connectiong sharing / bastille firewall basically work together to support the internet sharing and routing thingas the more I read in the how-tos the more lost I feel... as nothing seem to be as they describe in these how-to's. Any help would be appreciated AS I'm totally lost here. Regards. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT CHEER UP Femme :)
Hey Femme, keep your spirits and your lovely nutty posts flowing ... for those who can't stand your spirit, I still believe that subscription here is volantar. As for those who are charged for their connection by the BITs and BYTES,,, uum ,,, perhaps its time for them to switch ISP's ??? ;-) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] ftp to share files
Brian , yes indeed thats what I have 2 NIC in the gateway machine ( linux ) with eth0: having te ISP's IP eth1: have 192.168.0.1 as an IP thats is why I'm CONFUSED where the hell did that eth2 come from ?! my second NIC is a pcmci 3COM megaherts 10/100 and it got recognized automatically by LM, but It was recognized twice for some reason. ( I trioed sitching the cards back then still I had 3 eth's ) What files would help to figure out whats wrog , so I'll post them. ??? Thanks . - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I have two NICs but Mandrake sees 3
okay Brian ;) Hi All, I started a post 2 dyas ago wnating to know how can I share files between 2 machines on a local home LAN ( LM 8.1 and a w2k ) connected to another bigger lan,( bothe machines are sharing the internet connection of course) yet I found that I have deeper problems than I though I had ():-) first one ( as I stated in the last post ) is That win cannot ping linux though it can share the internet with it. Second ( and maybe the cause of the first ) is that LM 8.1 have configured 3 NIC's while I only have 2 my uestion is how could that happen ?? here are my HW info : Linux machine is a Dell Inspiron 7500 1st NIC : eth0 Genius pcmci 2nd NIC : eth2 3COM megaherts 10/100 pcmci here is the output of /sbin/ifconfig ( I chopped the lo part for bandwidth constraints of some subscribers ():-) ) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:0C:45:17:32 inet addr:10.0.0.140 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:34333 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:18809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:56 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:17968208 (17.1 Mb) TX bytes:1762810 (1.6 Mb) Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:4B:A2:D1:A8 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:10156 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14182 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:1018348 (994.4 Kb) TX bytes:14063580 (13.4 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x200 I have 3 ifcfg-ethx files I will list ifcfg-eth1 here which is the one that seems to be there for no reason and having a strange HD address: DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes HWADDR=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff okay I'll list ifcfg-eth1 and eth1 as well :) DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=10.0.0.xxx === I x 'ed the real IP though its useless in this case ;) NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.0.0.0 BROADCAST=10.0.0.255 ONBOOT=yes HWADDR=00:a0:0c:45:14:32 DEVICE=eth2 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=no HWADDR=00:10:4b:a2:d1:a9 and here is /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true HOSTNAME=hananxx.myisp.com DOMAINNAME=myisp.com GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 GATEWAYDEV=eth0 - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] adding date to tar.jz file?
Thank you jon :) Buying your new service pack ... $70 Buying your high tech JAVA IDE .. $682 Writting your own backup_with_no_date_shell_script...Priceless for everything else... there is this NEWBIE LIST ;) okay lets make this a true low_noise_mailing list Can anybody add to/ modify this scrip to make it usefull for /home directory backing ? As jon judt warned us against using it for this specific purpos ? Regards All,,, - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] ftp for file sharing
Sorry, the bastille firewall IS ON, I tried service bastille-firewall stop and some rules scrolled on the screen = it was working ():-) but after i stopped it, I noticed the following: 1- I lost the connection sharing , the win machine cannot see the internet anymore. 2- I CAN ping 192.168.0.1 = linux machine from w2k !! I also noticed something else ( I noticed this a few days ago ) every time I change the following line in /etc/hosts file : 192.168.0.1 hanan.myisp.comhanan to 192.168.0.1 hanan.homelan.com hanan ( chnage the host nam to reflect the my local lan ) it reverts back to the isp lan ?? does this have to o with DHCP ?? does DHCP run automatically when one sets connection sharing ? If somebody kows about a place to read about this network setting and DHCP by editing the actual files tha need to be edited, I'd like to ge rid of al this GUI confusing settings. for I still dont know WHY does control center BELIEVES that I have eth cards !! when I only have 2 !! - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] laptop
Hi Shane, I am running LM8.1 on Dell Inspiron 7500, it worked nicely on it, ever since L.M 7.0 and before trhat I was using Red Hat. and I guess witrh older notebooks you wont have to suffer with uncompatible pieces of hardware ( modems, display cards, .etc.) Just make sure that it doest come with winmodem :). even If it did you can easily buy a real moidem off e-bay, just days ago I bought a LAN 10/100 3Com pcmci off ebay for $14 :)) --- Dell Inspiron 7500 PIII 700 MHz Maestro sound ATI Rage Mobility Psion Gold card ( modem) Genius LAN Fast Ether 3Com LAN ever since LM 7.0 Good Luck. - Q: Why Geeks shouldnt drink ? A: Coz they cant afford to loose greates asset their minds - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Paul Vortex wrote this on his reply to programs running on wine post, and since there is this trend in the past 2 days in the list where people are posting things that are not neccesarily == ( never mind the spelling ... hint would be nice to add a spell checker in Kmail /hint) related to the list objectivs :) Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? starter: Name: Hanan Country: Fairfax, VA United States IP: .. nah ;-) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Hi All, Its me again, I'm glad the Shame we live in diff countries mail got this much replies today :) Now lets not let this take us away form our main list objective ;-) If you remember I asked for your cooperation in my little project ( connecting a linux and a W2K machine through a mini LAN, and then to the Internet keeping in mind my sort of not traditional DSL setup. One good reply from Robin, who gave me this tip for how to physically connect the 2 machines: if you want to use your computer for sharing Wall jack - computer1 - computer 2 2 NIC for computer 1 and 1 NIC for computer 2 SO, I got the second NIC ( fast huh ? and you thought you'r gonna have some headache free time ;) ) I plugged the 3com pcmci card in, it was recognized by MD, YET in the control center under networking it shows 3 (yes 3) eth0, eth1, eth2 !! I didnt bother to see why, and I went on to set the cables this way : cable coming from wall == eth0 (10.0.x.x in the LM machine ) cable coming out from second NIC == eth1 (192.168.0.1 the LM machine == hub cable coming out from W2K machin == (192.168.0.2) == hub the 2 cables go to regular ports on the hub ( none goes to the uplink port) I set the hosts file on W2K as following: 192.168.0.1hanan.my_isp_domain.com 192.168.0.2w2k.my_isp_domain.com ,and gave the TCP/IP configurations the following values: IP : 192.168.0.2 DNS : the IPs of the DNS the ISP gave me. Gateway: 192.168.0.1 LAN is not working machines cannot see each other. where do i start ? . suggestions, hints, questions, All welcomed :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Well before I move on to connection sharing, shouldnt tha LAN be working first ? I tried switching the cards in the pcmci slots, to see if that 3rd eth wold go away ,, still there !! where the hell did this come from ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts I have the following entries (files): ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-eth1, ifcfg-eth2 respectively: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=10.0.0.140 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.0.0.0 BROADCAST=10.0.0.255 ONBOOT=yes DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes DEVICE=eth2 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes HWADDR=00:10:4b:a2:d1:a8 The eth that is connected to the dsl is eth0 after I added the new NIC I got those eth1 eth2 ... WHY why why I do have 3 of them while I only have 2 NICs? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Hey Gerald guess WHAT I'm able to see the internet form the w2k Machine !!1 Hhh :)) and I dont even know how I did it !!! I cant belive this : from the w2k machine i cant ping anything but the gateway ( the actual isp gateway ) and fromm the linux machine, thats another story !! - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I got the 2nd NIC start another round ?
Ohh dont worry about that Gerald, thats a fake name anyway :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd-rw thoughts?
Hey Folks, Tom Brinkman is on the list right now, if you are in need for some prof. replies ():-) okay any thoughts about external CD Writers ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] samba - online books
Try this link http://maththinking.com/boat/languageBooksIndex.html - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
Hi, I need some advise ( actually I'd rather specifuc steps :)) to get from Initial state below to Goal state ( also below ): Initial State: I have a 2 machines: First machine: a dual booting notebook ( LM 8.1 + Win98 SE) connected to DSL + printer. Second machine: a dual booting Desktop ( LM 7.2 + W2K ) both have NIC installed. Goal State: I need the first machine always running linux, the second one always running W2K, I want to connect them through a LAN ( bought a hub and some cables ) so that the second machine can connect to internet through the first one, and I need both machines to see each other's hard drives, and share the printer. DO I need 2 NIC's installed on the first machine to be able to do this ?( one to hold the LAN IP , one to hold the DSL IP ) All contributions welcomed :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
Dennis, you gussed it I have many questions, here is the starter: If I'm to set the NIC IP in the first machine to have 192.168.0.1 address , then where does the IP that I'm given by the ISP gonna go ?!? and I dont have a DSL modem, the building is prewired for DSL, there is a cable that comes out of the phone jack on the wall, and this cable's other end goes into my NIC card. My ISP will win the prize for the worst tech support ever and they dont support WIN$ not to mention linux !! but here are the settings they gave me to set the DSL connection: my host name : hanan domain name: company.com gateway : 10.0.0.x 2 DNS IP's : and my static IP: 10.0.0.xx and thats about it SO where do I go from here ?? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Do I nees 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
Dennis you are right, maybe I wasnt clear when i described it, it is a cat5 cable that runs frp, my NIC to the adapter in the wall ( the adapter then adpats it to a regular phone like output excuse my informal description ) If I got you right ,, I think all i have to do is set the W2K machine to have IP 10.0.0.2 and make her gateway the first machine ? I think I'm missing something here if so then where does IP masq comes in ? and where is the part where I have to set hosts files and all that ?? ():-) Calling List: please somebody jump in here :)) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
when trying Mandrake control center connection sharing ( the first screen ) there is a note saying: Note: you need a dedicated Network adapter to set up a local area network (LAN) I guess I do need 2 NIC's !! - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Do I need 2 NIC for connection sharing ?
Okay Folks, Thanks for the overwhelming replies :) I ordered an NIC, and I'll tell you how it goes after I get it, so be prepaired for some more Q's :) Good night ... or Morning wherever you are :) Isn't it great to be a Linuxian ():-) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Is it Reiser or is it something else ?
Hi All, I Spent last night in an infinit loop of reinstalling LM 8.1 on a new machine, till I dropped asleep!!! here is the full story... Got a new P4 desktop machine with, 256 RAM and a 40G HD drive and had the following intention: make it a dual boot machine ( as simple as that used to be ) I did the following: - The machine originally came with Win98SE on it. - installed Partition Magic 4 (yeah I know they'v reached Ver 7 now ). - partitioned the 40G disk into the following: * shrinked the WIN 98 partition to 3G Fat32 called WIN_C * created a 250 Linus Swap * created a 13G Linux native * some free space * the last 10G of the drive made it a Fat32 WIN_D ( to be used for windows data ) - done with the partitioning, I installed W2K - done with the W2K installation, started installing LM 8.1 - chose expert install, but now i got the idea of using the Reiser file system, and have the /home directory on a sperate patition (for future easy upgrading) So, I deleted the 13G ext2 partition ( that I created in Partition Magic) and created 2 new partitions with the Reiser file sys: first one is: 3G with / mount point, second one is 8G with /home as mount point. , and went on with installation. Installation went fine till the last CD ( 3rd) was done, after the window that says: finished copying files, an error message appered saying: AN ERROR OCCURED, SOME IMPORTANT FILES WAS NOT COPIED, then one saying: CANNOT FIND LHLIST, THIS IS PROBABLY CAUSED BY A BAD OR CORRUPTED CD OR CD DRIVE, CHECK THE CD WITH AN INSTALLED MACHINE WITH : rpm -qpm Mandrake/RPMS... bla bla I was confused what could have gone wrong ?! SO I started the instllation again and changed the / partition to ext2 same thing happend I started it again changing both partitions to ext2...same thing started again and chose not to install 3rd CD guess what ? same error msg ! I know the CD Drive is working fine, and the CD is fine too I used it to install LM on another 3 machines before... CAN anybody tell me what can I do ? I ran out of ideas for the next install I know that was long sorry but my night last night was long too :-) started it again - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] Is it Reiser or is it somthing else
Thank you shane,, this memory check is it on windows ? I suppose it must be on windows ? since linux is not installed yet if you can give me a hint where is this utility I can go and look for it ( BIOS , DOS ?? ) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is it Reisre or is it something else ?
I found the msg you reffered to in the archives and said something about this memtest86 rpm on the second CD, yet I couldnt figure out how to make this rpm run from a floppy ():-) ?!? shall I copy it to a floppy and use this floppy to boot up the machine ? or what :) many thanks. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is it Reiser or is it something else ?
Hey Tom, That sure was a heavy weight reply ... I'm glad some of you experts do look at our newbie list from time to time ;) But that warning on http://users.ev1/ sure is scary,,, I dont think i wanna go ahead and stress my new system's cpu :) and by the way while I was waiting for replies about my problem I tried installing LM 7.2 and it worked just fine,,, it didn't complain about anything !!! so I guess its not a memory problem after all ?? or could it be that 7.2 was fooled as well ??!! but I'm glad I ( and some folks here ) got to know about some really interesting SW out there and we got some very informative replies from some gurus :) Thanks FOLKS :-) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cheers Geeks :)
I dont know if this breaks the listiquitte or not, but I want to make a statement here : Dont you just love it when people get motivated, and you find the same person posting replies for more than one post ?? I mean here we are on a Sat night ...staying in...I mean staying infront of our PC's reading about linux tips and fixes :) It couldnt get geekier I guess ... Chers Geeks :) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] share the DSL more
Gerald, do you mean this: run both machins in linux set up a lan between them, then switch both to win and do the same. okay then what happens after that ? i mean when i switch one of them back to linux will they be able to see each other form that point ? or there is something else to set. ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
[newbie] share the DSL more
Hi All, I'll get str8 to the point here I have a (PC with Win98 on it and will install LM on it too ) + a Notebook that dual boots Win + LM. The notebook has an NIC connected to DSL internet ( no DSL modem just an Rj45 running from the NIC to the wall , with an internal IP 10.x.x.x then connects to the internet through the ISP's router in the building) I want to be able to do the following: 1- I want the notebook to be running Linux all the time, the PC running win ( most of the time ) 2- Connect the PC and the notebook through a LAN, so I can see files both ways ( see win files from linux and vice versa ) . 3- Use the printer from both machines. 4- access the internet from both machines. Now, I have read some articles here and there ( IP masquerading, setting up Linux/Win LANs, SAMBA... ) yet I'm not sure which I need to do first, which I dont need to do at all , and ofcourse after reading a typical HOWTO I ended up more confused than before I read it !!! can anybody who feels like helping, give me an outline of what shall I do here ?? ANY suggestion will be most appreciated. -- Hanan - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
Re:[newbie] applications start at KDE startup
I closed everything and used the restore session next time option, logged out and in againthey are GONE . What a reliefe. Thank you ALL :))) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] applications start at KDE startup
Hi, I'm running LM 8.1 and KDE, 2 weeks ago for somereason (I cant remember it now ) I killed X while there was some applications running ( Dia, gaim, and Konqueror ) and ever since after that, everytime I startup KDE those applications startup automatically !!! I kept up with this situation for 2 weeks but now I just cant go on like this !! and I haven't got the slightest idea where to start looking to stop this... any idea anybody ? Thanks, - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] network restart after suspend
let it be a stab in the daylight... Dell Inspiron 7500 NIC = Genius FM3000SE ( http://www.genius-kye.com/html/download.html) - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] installing the new mozilla
skinky thanks for the hint .. i exported my bookmarks :) now i tried installing the new mozilla ( as root )using the following command: rpm -Uvh mozilla-0.9.8-5mdk.rpm --nodeps and it gives me the following error: file /usr/lib/libnssckbi.so form install of mozilla-0.9.8-5mdk conflicts ith file from package libnss3-3.2.1-6mdk as a newbie with no clue ... i guessed that the error must have came from the 5mdk and the 6mdk part ... and I thought the --nodepss should take care of that ():-) what other option can I use for this kind of error ?? Regards - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] installing the new mozilla
Skinky, Many many thanks... I used the --force option and I'm running mozilla 0.9.8 now :-) This is a GR8 list Regards , = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Thursday 21 February 2002 09:13, Hanan Shargi wrote: skinky thanks for the hint .. i exported my bookmarks :) now i tried installing the new mozilla ( as root )using the following command: rpm -Uvh mozilla-0.9.8-5mdk.rpm --nodeps and it gives me the following error: file /usr/lib/libnssckbi.so form install of mozilla-0.9.8-5mdk conflicts ith file from package libnss3-3.2.1-6mdk as a newbie with no clue ... i guessed that the error must have came from the 5mdk and the 6mdk part ... and I thought the --nodepss should take care of that ():-) what other option can I us e for this kind of error ?? Regards - Hanan AL-Shargi IIRC, I had to force an upgrade of mozilla. ie. rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force mozilla-0.9.xmdk.ix56.rpm I just checked and I have both /usr/lib/libnssckbi.so and /usr/lib/mozilla/libnssckbi.so installed. The first one is from the libnss3 package which couldn't be uninstalled (IIRC) because netscape (or was it evolution) needed it. The force has not caused any problems for me. Mozilla, netscape (and evolution) work fine. skinky -- oxymoron: Microsoft Works - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] network restart after suspend
well... I dont connect through DHCP, my machine is given a static internal IP ( 10.0.0.xx) so i guess i'm not connected directly to the internet i'm connected through the building's gateway ( all appartments in the building connect to one network and then connect to the internet through a gateway sort of like an internal ISP) and no I cannot ping anything after coming out of suspend, I try to ping any thing(ping my own machin, the gateway...etc. ) and I get a : netwrok unreachable. after I do a : service network restart I get the following : Disabling IPv4 packet forwarding [OK] Setting network parameters[OK] Bringing up interface lo: [OK] Enabling IPv4 packet forwarding [OK] bringing up interface eth0: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device Failed to bring up eth0. ? what could be the problem in this case ? I cant slide in another NIC I odnt keep collections of NIC's ():-) Regards to ALL. - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] network restart after suspend
Hi, I'm running Mandrake 8.1 on a dell inspiron notebook with a DSL connection ( I connect to the building's DSL network through the lan card only -internal IP withinn the network ) my problem is that when I resume working after a suspend mode, I cannot connect to the internet, I have to reboot the system to be able to connect to the internet again, I did some reading and found about the : # service network restart no luck. Tried it with the: stop and then start option, still no luck I get an error saying: cannot bring up eth0, I have to reboot Any suggestions to get rid of this problem ? - Hanan AL-Shargi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com