[newbie] DSL modem/firewall/router vs. Firewall vs. ???

2004-11-04 Thread Fred Fraley
Should I rely on a DSL gateway with NAT, or do I NEED a dedicated 
destop for a firewall? 

I recently got DSL with a Westell Versalink 327W 
modem/router/hub/gateway, which has a built in firewall with NAT.
The Versalink has a DHCP service built in.  I also have the option of 
disabling the firewall and passing through the IP address.  This, if 
I understand correctly, would make the Versalink simply a modem/hub 
and my desktop machine would be directly accessible to/from the DSL 
connection.
Assuming I am connecting two more desktops, both normally running 
linux but with a MS(tm) windowing(used generically) OS installed, 
which is the better arrangement?  I am not planning on running any 
servers except as may be necessary in the house (printing, sharing 
files).
Since the MS OS will undoubtedly run occasionally, I am inclined to 
run the security as much as possible beforehand, from the Versalink.  
I'd rather not run a dedicated machine for a firewall.  I'm not 
planning on doing anything fancy and am not all that inclined to 
devote a lot of time to it, though I do have a couple of older boxes 
with NICs laying around.
Opinions?

Thanks, 
Fred


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Re: [newbie] DSL modem/firewall/router vs. Firewall vs. ???

2004-11-04 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:37:16 -0500
Fred Fraley disseminated the following:

   Should I rely on a DSL gateway with NAT, or do I NEED a dedicated 
 destop for a firewall? 
 
   I recently got DSL with a Westell Versalink 327W 
 modem/router/hub/gateway, which has a built in firewall with NAT.

The fact that the modem and firewall are in one box troubles me, though I cannot
give you a specific reason why. I would be inclined to use the *modem* as a
*modem* and then connect it to a real firewall. As Bjorn pointed out, IPCop is a
good one, Smoothwall is another kick ass firewall, just boot from a CD and yer
done:

http://www.smoothwall.org/

If your old box you wanna use as a firewall can't boot from a CD, there are even
alternatives that will work from just a floppy. This is the one I use, it was
very easy to set up and to use, and has never once failed me (running on a P90
with 16 MB of RAM):

http://www.bbiagent.net/en/index.html

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RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Sabin, Matthew
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)





Are you using the correct cable? Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal cable?


Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC.

--Matthew


-Original Message-
From: Julien Sobrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)



Ben wrote:
 Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
 DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
 only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
 DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
 ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
 server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
 signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
 DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
 your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice). If you've 
 configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
 to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 
(Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup)


Hello
I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to 
the ethernet network card of my computer.
Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I 
noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the 
modem blinks (but no connections occurs).


The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my 
LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu 
put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I 
still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off.


I don't know what to do do make my connection working.


I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider 
address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address?


THanks
julien








Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Sabin, Matthew wrote:
Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs. normal 
cable?

Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable, but the 
DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to connect to a PC.

--Matthew
The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good cable.

THanks
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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Julien Sobrier wrote:

Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I 
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under 
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under 
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

Thank you
Julien
I think all I miss is the phone number. Any clue how I could find it 
in California?

Thanks
Julien

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[newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I 
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under 
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under 
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

Thank you
Julien

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
me wrote:
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:

Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?
Thank you
Julien


Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake 
Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the 
Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following:

Provider name  sbcglobal.net
Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account password:  [your secret word]
THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.

then you should be on your merry way.

Jack
By the way, it is an ethernet modem.

julien


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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Ben wrote:
Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice).  If you've 
configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 
(Erro: message previously sent to Ben only, copy on the newsgroup)

Hello
I have a modem (I don't thonk it is a router) which must be plugged to 
the ethernet network card of my computer.
Il I try to make a connection using PPPoE, nothing happens. But I 
noticed that if I choose ppptd instead of PPPoE, the activity led of the 
modem blinks (but no connections occurs).

The network card where my modem is plugged was previously used for my 
LAN connection. So, maybe I have to change some informations. I tried tu 
put eth0 in static or dhcp mode, up or down, start at boot or not. But I 
still cannot connect to internet: the activity led is off.

I don't know what to do do make my connection working.

I also wonder how the connection manager can understand the provider 
address: sbcglobal.net. Does it need to be translated into an IP address?

THanks
julien



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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread me
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 Hello
 I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
 read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
 Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
 Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

 Thank you
 Julien

Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake 
Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the 
Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following:

Provider name  sbcglobal.net
Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account password:  [your secret word]

THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.

then you should be on your merry way.

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Julien Sobrier wrote:
Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I 
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under 
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under 
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?

Thank you
Julien
Hello
Finally, it works after reinstalling rp-pppoe and using tkpppoe to set 
up the connection.

THank you to everyone.

Julien


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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday August 13 2003 04:24 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 Sabin, Matthew wrote:
  Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs.
  normal cable?
 
  Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable,
  but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to
  connect to a PC.

  Yes it is a misnomer. It's not a modem as there's nothing to 
be modulate/demodulated (analog POTS  digital) as the DSL input 
and output are already digital. It's properly called an ATU-R, 
(adsl transceiver unit-remote) but most everybody calls 'em modems 
out of old habits.  The Telco's DSLAM is also called an 
ATU-C(entral).

  --Matthew

 The connection works under Windows, so I guess I have the good
 cable.

 THanks
 Julien

 Julien, try installing rp-pppoe. It's on your CD's. Run (as 
root) 'adsl-setup' (w/o the quotes) and answer the half dozen 
questions. Your user name should be the whole deal, ie, somethin 
like   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For DNS don't enter any, enter 'server' (w/o the quotes).
Typing (as root) 'adsl-start' should do it, 'adsl-stop' to quit

  See Roaring Penguin's site for more information and help
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/

  Also, Menu | Documentation | Howto's | DSL-Howto is worth a read. 
SBC DSL is easy to setup on Mandrake once you have a userID and 
password.  

 FWIW, I've had SBC DSL for almost a year. A few weeks ago the 
connection abruptly slowed by over half. I soon found the problem. 
I had the DSL phone line running thru an APC surge protector, which 
normally is a good idea. Putting the line straight to the ATU-R 
immediately restored full speed. Also I sometimes (actually rarely) 
need to power cycle the ATU-R (unplug power, wait a minute, restore 
power).  So try that if you feel you've got the connection properly 
configured, but can't connect.
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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Julien Sobrier
Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Wednesday August 13 2003 04:24 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:

Sabin, Matthew wrote:

Are you using the correct cable?  Cat5 crossover cable vs.
normal cable?
Your PC would have connected to the LAN with a normal cable,
but the DSL/modem (misnomer) may require a crossover cable to
connect to a PC.


  Yes it is a misnomer. It's not a modem as there's nothing to 
be modulate/demodulated (analog POTS  digital) as the DSL input 
and output are already digital. It's properly called an ATU-R, 
(adsl transceiver unit-remote) but most everybody calls 'em modems 
out of old habits.  The Telco's DSLAM is also called an 
ATU-C(entral).

 Julien, try installing rp-pppoe. It's on your CD's. Run (as 
root) 'adsl-setup' (w/o the quotes) and answer the half dozen 
questions. Your user name should be the whole deal, ie, somethin 
like   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For DNS don't enter any, enter 'server' (w/o the quotes).
Typing (as root) 'adsl-start' should do it, 'adsl-stop' to quit

  See Roaring Penguin's site for more information and help
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
  Also, Menu | Documentation | Howto's | DSL-Howto is worth a read. 
SBC DSL is easy to setup on Mandrake once you have a userID and 
password.  
Thank you for the explanation. I tried to use adsl-setup, but it asked 
me only for my user name, password and dns. Nothing about the provider 
or anything else. Then, when I ran adsl-start and adsl-connect as root, 
nothing happend.

When I tried to connect to internet with Drakconf, I can see this error 
message:
GLib-CRITICAL **: File gmain.c : line 500 (g_source_renovc): asertion 
`tag0' Failed
SIOCDELRT: No such process

The first time, Drakconf tried to install rp-ppoe. But it failed because 
it was looking on internet! So, I installed it manually with the RPM 
found on my cd. How can I check that the installaion was correct? I 
didn't have any error message when using urpmi.

THank you
Julien

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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 20:42, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 me wrote:
  On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:
 Hello
 I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
 read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
 Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
 Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?
 
 Thank you
 Julien
 
  Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake
  Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the
  Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the
  following:
 
  Provider name  sbcglobal.net
  Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  account password:  [your secret word]
 
  THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.
 
  then you should be on your merry way.
 
  Jack

 By the way, it is an ethernet modem.

 julien

Not sure what you mean my Ethernet modem, but if you mean an ethernet based 
DSL modem, then assuming that it's ilke the rest of SBC's DSL network, it's 
only doing bridging. The PPPoE session is established via your PC through the 
DSL modem which only establishes the ecnapsulation for whatever protocol your 
ISP (SBC) is using before sending your PPPoE request to the authenticating 
server. MODEM is an acronym for MODulate-DEModulate which translates teh 
signal into what is necessary for the devices to communicate. In the case of 
DSL, it's the DSL modem talking to the DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer) over 
your phone line using frequencies over 8khz (reserved for voice).  If you've 
configured your PPPoE connection in mandrake Network Setup, then you'll need 
to make sure that the authentication is taking place. Hope this helps. 

-- 
Ben Reeves

He who knows much about others is learned, but he who understands himself is 
more intelligent. He who  
 controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier 
still.  
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Re: [newbie] DSL connection (SBC)

2003-08-12 Thread Julien Sobrier
me wrote:
On Monday 11 August 2003 08:05 pm, Julien Sobrier wrote:

Hello
I have a SBC connection under Windows, but I am moving onto Linux. I
read some articles, and see that my ethernet modem should work under
Linux. But what information do I need to set up my DSL connection under
Linux? How can I know how to connect to SBC?
Thank you
Julien


Its actually much easier to set up in Linux than windows. In the Mandrake 
Control Center, go to Network  Internet, then Drak Connect and click the 
Wizard. Pick ADSL connection, click use pppoe, then fill in the following:

Provider name  sbcglobal.net
Account Login:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account password:  [your secret word]
THEN do you want to start the connection at boot?  more than likely YES.

then you should be on your merry way.

Jack
Thank you very much, this is it. But my modem is not working under 
linux: the activity led never blinks. I read the log file. It just says 
that the connection has been lost. Do you know what I should check to 
make the modem working?

Julien


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[newbie] DSl up but

2003-07-03 Thread Aron Smith
DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again
Please note new email address.
thats the good news
bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with
my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang?


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Re: [newbie] DSl up but

2003-07-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote:
 DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again
 Please note new email address.
 thats the good news
 bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with
 my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang?

Is the DSL modem stand alone ?

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Re: [newbie] DSl up but

2003-07-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:36, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote:
  DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again
  Please note new email address.
  thats the good news
  bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with
  my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang?
 
 Is the DSL modem stand alone ?
yes it is is shorewall sufficient to protect your system?


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Re: [newbie] DSl up but

2003-07-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 12:42, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:36, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote:
   DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again
   Please note new email address.
   thats the good news
   bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with
   my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang?
  
  Is the DSL modem stand alone ?
 yes it is is shorewall sufficient to protect your system?

Roger that mate.

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-11 Thread RichardA
   Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
   that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
   eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
   -- 
   Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay?
  
  Richard
 I wish S.F. Bay area (where being a millionaire just means  that you
 own a nice house)
 -- 
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I was just making a cheap point about the USA-centric web.

As for Whitley Bay (http://www.whitleybaycitizen.co.uk/), if you were a
millionaire you could buy the whole town.

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-11 Thread Aron Smith
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 08:50, RichardA wrote:
Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
-- 
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay?
   
   Richard
  I wish S.F. Bay area (where being a millionaire just means  that you
  own a nice house)
  -- 
  Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I was just making a cheap point about the USA-centric web.
 
 As for Whitley Bay (http://www.whitleybaycitizen.co.uk/), if you were a
 millionaire you could buy the whole town.
 
 Richard
Thats ok rather be there than here.
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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-10 Thread Troy Davidson

Quoting Thomas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I want to continue the connection sharing that I've been
 running with the PPP setup. 

You actually don't need to do this, unless you want to.  Even if the ISP
only gives you one IP address, the DSL modem will take that address.  Then,
you can have the DSL modem do NAT (Network Address Translation) and connect
all the computers directly up without having to share the connection.


 1). Do I connect the DSL modem to the hub and then direct my machine to
 communicate with the IP configuration they give me?
 

Yes.


 2). Assuming that is the case (Yeah, I know all about _assuming_) will
 the current configuration of connection sharing continue to work with the
 DSL? In other words, is all I have to do is reconfigure my internet
 connection to use the DSL and the other machine on my mini-lan will still
 see it using the current connection sharing configuration?
 

Shouldn't have a problem, but I'm not 100% sure on this answer.



 3). Provided this all works as I think it will the next step is to
 download the 9.1 images. Are there any gotchas I should be worried
 about?

I haven't had any, but others seem to have problems.  I have now installed
on 4 machines without any problems.


 4). Will 9.1 also do the connection sharing like 8.1 does?
 

I never did it in 8.1 or 9.1 so can't answer that one.

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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-10 Thread Troy Davidson
Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hey gang we definitely need a newbie How2 on this
 also a list of questions to ask the DSL provider

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/

Specifically for your second question:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/installation.html#AEN275


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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 10:26 am, Troy Davidson wrote:

 Ask and ye shall receive:

Can I have a 6 pack of beer and a circular Italian food object? (otherwise 
known as pizza)?

PS Could have been worse, I could have asked for a cool $million$! :-)

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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-10 Thread Troy Davidson
You can have yours after I get mine.  ;)


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Quoting Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tuesday 10 June 2003 10:26 am, Troy Davidson wrote:
 
  Ask and ye shall receive:
 
 Can I have a 6 pack of beer and a circular Italian food object?
 (otherwise 
 known as pizza)?
 
 PS Could have been worse, I could have asked for a cool $million$! :-)
 
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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:41 am, Troy Davidson wrote:
 You can have yours after I get mine.  ;)


 Troy Davidson
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Deal. :-)

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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-10 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:54, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:41 am, Troy Davidson wrote:
  You can have yours after I get mine.  ;)
 
 
  Troy Davidson
  Linux User #311107
 
 Deal. :-)

have you tried urpmi uubp??



  NAME

uubp -- Unix-to-Unix beer protocol

  SYNOPSIS

uubp [- acefghlqy] site

  DESCRIPTION

Uupb allows the user to transfer beer, ale, or other fermented grain
beverages between network sites.  Using TCP/IP (telecommunications
protocol for imbibing pilsners), uubp encodes beer from a local
file system into packets suitable for FTP (fermentation transfer
protocol) delivery at a remote IP site.

Example:

  % uubp -cAMBER -f0.7 -y0 -q2 198.137.240.100

The preceding example sends two six-packs (-q2) of amber ale 
(-cAMBER)with a fizziness quotient of 70%, brewed using yeast of 
type 0 (saccharo-myces cerevisiae) to IP address 198.137.240.100, 
which is the IP address for the White House.


  RESTRICTIONS

Both source and destination sites must be running uubp-daemon.  In
addition, local restrictions exist in many areas for the 
transportation
of alcohol across state lines.  The Electronic Frontier Foundation is
currently involved in litigation to ensure the ability to distribute
beer through the uubp protocol according to the 21st Amendment.  To
support the SIG of EFF devoted to this cause, join the Homebrewers of
the Electronic Frontier Engaged in Winning Electronic Independence and
Zeroing Establishment Nonsense (HEFEWEIZEN), or send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Be sure to include the entire text of
this manual page.

  NOTES

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:53, Aron Smith wrote:
 Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
 that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
 eg. easy to set up under Mandrake

Linux Friendly is a really bad term to use. Any ISP that REQUIRES the
usage of linux unsupported hardware is another issue.

Any internet access is dependent on three things - a username, a
password, and SOME means by which to gain and IP address from them.

If you can get a stand-alone ADSL router that allows for you to plug it
into either an ethernet card or into a hub, you can get DSL going.

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RE: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Sabin, Matthew
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL





A slight correction:


Internet access requires an IP address.


My ISP (speakeasy.net) figures that if I'm on the end of my particular DSL line, I must be me, or at least authorized by me to use the 'net.

soapbox
usernames and passwords are required for more draconian ISP's who can't understand their hardware well enough to figure out who's on the end of which wire.

/soapbox


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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL



On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:53, Aron Smith wrote:
 Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
 that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
 eg. easy to set up under Mandrake


Linux Friendly is a really bad term to use. Any ISP that REQUIRES the
usage of linux unsupported hardware is another issue.


Any internet access is dependent on three things - a username, a
password, and SOME means by which to gain and IP address from them.


If you can get a stand-alone ADSL router that allows for you to plug it
into either an ethernet card or into a hub, you can get DSL going.


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RE: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Sabin, Matthew
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL





shameless plug


I've been using Speakeasy for two years now, and have nothing but great things to say. Take a look at them.
If you decide to sign up, consider using this URL: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/35405 


They say they'll help fund my hobbies (brewing and computing) with a referall credit if you sign up.


/shameless plug




-Original Message-
From: Aron Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] DSL



Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread RichardA
On 08 Jun 2003 17:53:26 -0700
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
 that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
 eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
 -- 
 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay?

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:03, RichardA wrote:
 On 08 Jun 2003 17:53:26 -0700
 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
  that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
  eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
  -- 
  Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay?
 
 Richard
I wish S.F. Bay area (where being a millionaire just means  that you own
a nice house)
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Troy Davidson
I hate to sound stupid, but why couldn't you just go with any DSL provider,
and get a DSL router-hub?  Then, the router can do NAT and firewall and you
can put any number of machines behind the router.

Just a thought.  Not sure if you have already thought of that or not.

Troy Davidson 
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Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
   that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
   eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 19:47, Troy Davidson wrote:
 I hate to sound stupid, but why couldn't you just go with any DSL provider,
 and get a DSL router-hub?  Then, the router can do NAT and firewall and you
 can put any number of machines behind the router.
 
 Just a thought.  Not sure if you have already thought of that or not.
 
 Troy Davidson 
 Linux User #311107
 The local DSL provider keeps telling me 

 that I have to run special software (ether 300 or some such blather)
 ++ 
 Follow the adventures of a 
 real life computer and 
   gaming nerd! 
 
www.clandaith.com
 ++ 
 
 ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer **
 
 
 Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
-- 
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Troy Davidson
Hmmm  It might just be the FUD that they are trying to get you to
believe.  It might just be a salesman who doesn't know what he is talking
about.  Worst case scenario, you can order the DSL and when they come out to
install it, let them do all the work and then spring on them you use Linux.
 The installer might just let you get by without installing the software. If
the DSL can connect to a router than you don't need the software on your
machine.  It might be that the DSL modem connects via USB and needs special
drivers.

Find out the actual software they need to install and what modem they will
be using.  Post it here and maybe we can all help you out. 

Or better yet, let the installer come to your house, sit at the computer and
try to install their 'special' software.  ;)

Troy Davidson 
Linux User #311107

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Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


  The local DSL provider keeps telling me 
 
  that I have to run special software (ether 300 or some such blather)

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Alan Shoemaker
Aron Smith wrote:
 Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
 that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
 eg. easy to set up under Mandrake

http://www.speakeasy.net/

these folks actually favor linux users.
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Aron Smith
I'm checking them out as right now
thanks and a tip of Tuxs flipper to you
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 20:18, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
  Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area
  that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly?
  eg. easy to set up under Mandrake
 
 http://www.speakeasy.net/
 
 these folks actually favor linux users.
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-09 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 19:59, Troy Davidson wrote:
 Hmmm  It might just be the FUD that they are trying to get you to
 believe.  It might just be a salesman who doesn't know what he is talking
 about.  Worst case scenario, you can order the DSL and when they come out to
 install it, let them do all the work and then spring on them you use Linux.
  The installer might just let you get by without installing the software. If
 the DSL can connect to a router than you don't need the software on your
 machine.  It might be that the DSL modem connects via USB and needs special
 drivers.
 
 Find out the actual software they need to install and what modem they will
 be using.  Post it here and maybe we can all help you out. 
 
 Or better yet, let the installer come to your house, sit at the computer and
 try to install their 'special' software.  ;)
Thats evil  .. I LIKE IT
 
 Troy Davidson 
 Linux User #311107
 
 ++ 
 Follow the adventures of a 
 real life computer and 
   gaming nerd! 
 
www.clandaith.com
 ++ 
 
 ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer **
 
 
 Quoting Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
   The local DSL provider keeps telling me 
  
   that I have to run special software (ether 300 or some such blather)
 
 
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[newbie] DSL?

2003-06-09 Thread Thomas Williams
OK, so here's the deal. Come Monday I will be getting DSL from sprint installed. When 
I mentioned running linux it didn't seem to be a problem for them. I'm still running 
8.1 and will be until after I get the DSL up and working. I want to continue the 
connection sharing that I've been running with the PPP setup. I believe I can still do 
this with the DSL. I have a mini-hub. I have a bunch of questions:

1). Do I connect the DSL modem to the hub and then direct my machine to communicate 
with the IP configuration they give me?

2). Assuming that is the case (Yeah, I know all about _assuming_) will the current 
configuration of connection sharing continue to work with the DSL? In other words, is 
all I have to do is reconfigure my internet connection to use the DSL and the other 
machine on my mini-lan will still see it using the current connection sharing 
configuration?

3). Provided this all works as I think it will the next step is to download the 9.1 
images. Are there any gotchas I should be worried about?

4). Will 9.1 also do the connection sharing like 8.1 does?

Here's my real concern, I don't want to be spending two or three days trying to get 
everything squared away and working. I want to be able to know all the hazards and 
gotchas upfront so that it will be a relatively painless switch over. Can this be 
done? Bear in mind that while I am a programmer that was for macs, on linux I'm 
somewhere between novice and intermediate.

Tom Williams

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Re: [newbie] DSL?

2003-06-09 Thread Aron Smith
Hey gang we definitely need a newbie How2 on this
also a list of questions to ask the DSL provider

On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 22:39, Thomas Williams wrote:
 OK, so here's the deal. Come Monday I will be getting DSL from sprint installed. 
 When I mentioned running linux it didn't seem to be a problem for them. I'm still 
 running 8.1 and will be until after I get the DSL up and working. I want to continue 
 the connection sharing that I've been running with the PPP setup. I believe I can 
 still do this with the DSL. I have a mini-hub. I have a bunch of questions:
 
 1). Do I connect the DSL modem to the hub and then direct my machine to communicate 
 with the IP configuration they give me?
 
 2). Assuming that is the case (Yeah, I know all about _assuming_) will the current 
 configuration of connection sharing continue to work with the DSL? In other words, 
 is all I have to do is reconfigure my internet connection to use the DSL and the 
 other machine on my mini-lan will still see it using the current connection sharing 
 configuration?
 
 3). Provided this all works as I think it will the next step is to download the 9.1 
 images. Are there any gotchas I should be worried about?
 
 4). Will 9.1 also do the connection sharing like 8.1 does?
 
 Here's my real concern, I don't want to be spending two or three days trying to get 
 everything squared away and working. I want to be able to know all the hazards and 
 gotchas upfront so that it will be a relatively painless switch over. Can this be 
 done? Bear in mind that while I am a programmer that was for macs, on linux I'm 
 somewhere between novice and intermediate.
 
 Tom Williams
 
 
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-07 Thread John Wilson
On June 1, 2003 01:42 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On 02 Jun 2003 06:32:28 +1000

 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  What kinda modem ya getting?

 Some providers give you a modem-connection-sharing-NAT thing all in
 one?!


Now that I have the reply working right :-)

BEWARE of those all in one NAT thingies.  The vast majority of them will 
install on any OS, which is nice.  However almost all of them have funky, 
crappy brute force built in firewalls that will screw just about anything you 
can think of up.

Tell the phone company (or cable company for that matter who use a slightly 
modified version of the same thing) to bring out a nice, simple modem that 
does not contain a firewall or, if they insist on a NAT thingie insist that 
they disable the firewall before installation.

(Has had to do more than enough repair calls on just this problem. :-) )

ttfn

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-02 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 02:37 pm, Eric Scott wrote:

Folks,

I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard 
that all i need is a program called PPPoE. I've been told the telephone 
company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible 
network card. 

I'm running M 9.1.

Any comment appreciated.

JM



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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-02 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 31 May 2003 15:56:48 -0300
Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have
 heard that all i need is a program called PPPoE.

Mandrake comes with several options to get you connected via PPPoE,
don't worry about it. 

 telephone company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100
 compatible network card. 

that is true. they're cheaper than...than...SCO stock! Check the
hardware compatibility list on the Mandrake site, but most cards you can
buy are supported IME.

 
 I'm running M 9.1.
 
 Any comment appreciated.

I like your email address! that's where you be now mon!
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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 04:56, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 02:37 pm, Eric Scott wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard 
 that all i need is a program called PPPoE. I've been told the telephone 
 company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible 
 network card. 
 
 I'm running M 9.1.
 
 Any comment appreciated.
 
 JM

If they're telling you that they're bringing a network card, you're
probably only going to have to configure the network card to use DHCP;
but you can get PPPoE login programs - depends on the ADSL modem,
though. Some ADSL modems allow you to configure them via browser - where
you can put in the username and password and other pertinent
configuration items; then the only requirement is to setup the ADSL
router to lease via DHCP, or set it up with internal static IP...

What kinda modem ya getting?

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-02 Thread JoeHill
On 02 Jun 2003 06:32:28 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 What kinda modem ya getting?

Some providers give you a modem-connection-sharing-NAT thing all in
one?!

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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-02 Thread Gareth Qually
I have just set my connection up and I did not use the PPPoE route. I have a
speedtouch 330 modem and it detected it, and all i needed was a file
'mgmt.o'. So if you get that modem just shout and I will send you the file.


Ciao

Gareth Qually

www.slowlymakingsmoke.com
- Original Message -
From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL


 On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 02:37 pm, Eric Scott wrote:

 Folks,

 I am about to have an adsl connection within a few days, too. I have heard
 that all i need is a program called PPPoE. I've been told the telephone
 company is going to bring a modem and I have to have a pc100 compatible
 network card.

 I'm running M 9.1.

 Any comment appreciated.

 JM










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Re: [newbie] DSL

2003-06-01 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:55 pm, charles wright wrote:
 how do you setup a dsl for mandrake linux 9.1

Well, that's a little generic for a question, as what sort of DSL connection 
are you planing on?

If you are getting a DSL Modem that links to the computer with a 10Mb LAN 
connection, its as easy as configuring a NIC under linux.

If it is one of those DSL modem cards that one installs on the computer, well, 
that can be a can of worms.

Give us a little more info, and we can help a lot.

Rob

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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How? [SOLVED]

2003-01-08 Thread Jody Cleveland
Hello all,

 i don't get it. you got a command not found error
 when you tried to use urpmi?
 
 anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable...
 
 http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm
 
 download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then 
 adsl-setup away.

The rpm was installed, I just had to type the full path to get it to work.
I'm a pretty strong Windows user, so I keep forgetting to do that.

Anyway, that worked like a charm, thanks!

Thanks to everyone who took the time to help me out.

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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-04 Thread et
On Friday 03 January 2003 10:33 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 On Saturday 04 January 2003 02:10, you wrote:
   adsl-setup
 
  got adsl-setup: command not found
 
   urpmi rp-pppoe
 
  get adsl-setup: command not found
 
  Any other way to get it?
 
  Jody

 i don't get it. you got a command not found error
 when you tried to use urpmi?
Needs to be root?


 anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable...

 http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm

 download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then
 adsl-setup away.

 HTH

 Damian



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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-04 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday January 4 2003 08:15 am, et wrote:
 On Friday 03 January 2003 10:33 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  On Saturday 04 January 2003 02:10, you wrote:
adsl-setup
  
   got adsl-setup: command not found
  
urpmi rp-pppoe
  
   get adsl-setup: command not found
  
   Any other way to get it?
  
   Jody
 
  i don't get it. you got a command not found error
  when you tried to use urpmi?

 Needs to be root?

  anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable...
 
  http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm
 
  download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then
  adsl-setup away.
 
  HTH
 
  Damian

   There's rp-pppoe Mandrake rpms on the CD's or from Mdk mirrors.
I'm currently usin
rp-pppoe-gui-3.5-1mdk
rp-pppoe-3.5-1mdk
   so just 'urpmi rp-pppoe rp-pppoe-gui'

From memory (altho the roaring penguin website has good docs, so 
check those), after the rpm's are installed, run 'tkpppoe' as root. 
If you installed the gui rpm you get to setup everything in a nice 
little gui with great explanations (tool tips).  I have dynamic IP so 
I didn't enter any IP, I also left DNS numbers blank and just 
selected to get them 'from server'. Till I got it all setup, I also 
chose 'none' for firewall (I soon installed and configured guarddog).  
I also chose to permit connections 'as user'. When done I closed that 
(root) gui, and started the connection with the user gui.  I damn 
sure don't wanna ever connect as root ;)  

   It was all very quick and simple. I then added the rp-pppoe icon to 
my KDE panel (it'll also be on your main menu under Networking), tho 
I usually leave the connection 'always on'. Using the gui, an entry 
gets added on the taskbar. You can r-clk on it and choose 'close' to 
save taskbar space, the connection will stay up. You can even log 
in/out of KDE and X, the connection stays up. If you leave the item 
on the taskbar (or just start the gui again), the gui has a small 
graph for up/down speeds and also displays current rates, has 'modem' 
lights, and 'start/stop' buttons.  Great little app !!

   If you want/need further documentation, see the DSL-howto. It's 
very thorough, including trouble shooting.
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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-04 Thread james Mellema
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 10:32, Anthony Abby wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:25, Jody Cleveland wrote:
   What type of network card do you have?
  
  Linksys LNE100 TX
  
   Is it on the hcl?
  
 
 
 Hardware Compatibility List (HCL), which you'll find here
 (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3).  I performed a google
 search on your card and it appears that several people had trouble with
 your card and Mandrake.  I didn't bother to read all but the snippets,
 so take a peek through a google search and see what people did to
 resolve it.  That should get you started anyway.
 
 Anthony
 
I use the same card on 3 systems here, all use the tulip driver and all
have worked with every version of Mandrake since 7.0. The 127.0.0.1
problem is not connected to this issue. You should be able to 'ping'
127.0.0.1 even if you don't have a network card. Its internal
communications within the OS and has nothing to do with the physical
part of the computer.

I think the problem may be that the Belkin router is running the ppoe
client for the network, so the computer needs to be setup as a network
client, not an ADSL client. If the card is recognised as eth1 it should
be set up to get DHCP and DNS services from the belkin router. The
computer should not have to provide other information. ( I had a similar
problem with my Linksys cable/DSL switch when I got it. When I figured
out that the switch provided the services to the outside network it was
not a problem.)


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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Jody Cleveland
Hello all,

Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very impressed
with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way, I'm trying to
setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's unable to
connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with Mandrake 9 and
Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it is in Windows, but
it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs to be set within the
network setup?

Setup:
Mandrake 9
Linksys network card
Belkin Router
Dual-boot with XP

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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Anthony Abby
Jody Cleveland said:
 Hello all,

 Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very
 impressed with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way,
 I'm trying to setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's
 unable to connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with
 Mandrake 9 and Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it
 is in Windows, but it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs
 to be set within the network setup?

 Setup:
 Mandrake 9
 Linksys network card
 Belkin Router
 Dual-boot with XP

 -Jody Cleveland

Jody, does your system even see your network card?  Can you ping the
loopback address, or manually assign it an ip and ping it?  I'm not
familiar with the belkin, but if it's like the Linksys firewall router I
use at home, can you ping the default gateway address on it?  Need a
little more information to determine what exactly is happening here.

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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Jody Cleveland
Hello,

 Jody, does your system even see your network card?  Can you ping the
 loopback address, or manually assign it an ip and ping it?  I'm not
 familiar with the belkin, but if it's like the Linksys 
 firewall router I
 use at home, can you ping the default gateway address on it?  Need a
 little more information to determine what exactly is happening here.

Well, if I type ping localhost, it says the network is unavailable. But, if
I go into connection settings for network, it lists eth0 as having an ip
address. The weird thing is, the driver listed for the network card is
tulip. Does that make any sense? Should I try to download a new driver for
my card?

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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Friday 03 January 2003 15:39, Jody Cleveland wrote:
 Hello all,

 Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very
 impressed with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way, I'm
 trying to setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's unable
 to connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with Mandrake 9 and
 Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it is in Windows, but
 it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs to be set within the
 network setup?

Personally, i had many problems getting Mandrake Control Center
to configure my ADSL connection. In fact, i never could get it to work.

What i do is configure it from the command line. It's really simple
and fast. Even faster that configuring the same connection under
XP pro. Just log in as root, and type in a shell: 

adsl-setup

the adsl-setup will ask you some simple questions about your
connection (like username/password, a name for your connection,
and DNS servers), and you'll be good to go in about a minute. From
there, whenever you need to connect to the internet, you just type
adsl-start. (and to disconnect you type adsl-stop).

for this, you need the rp-pppoe package installed. if you
get adsl-setup: command not found you can install it by typing

urpmi rp-pppoe

HTH

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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Jody Cleveland
Hello,

 Personally, i had many problems getting Mandrake Control Center
 to configure my ADSL connection. In fact, i never could get 
 it to work.
 
 What i do is configure it from the command line. It's really simple
 and fast. Even faster that configuring the same connection under
 XP pro. Just log in as root, and type in a shell: 
 
 adsl-setup

What should I have set for my network card?

Jody


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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Guy Rouillier
- Original Message -
From: Jody Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?


 Hello all,

 Well, I took the plunge and installed Mandrake 9. So far, I'm very
impressed
 with it. I like it quite a bit better than Redhat 8. Any way, I'm trying
to
 setup my DSL connection. No matter what I do, it says it's unable to
 connect, and to check my configuration. I dual boot with Mandrake 9 and
 Windows XP. I tried to match up everything exactly as it is in Windows,
but
 it just won't connect. Is there a setting that needs to be set within the
 network setup?

 Setup:
 Mandrake 9
 Linksys network card
 Belkin Router


Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server?  If so, just tell Mandrake to be
a DHCP client (which is **not** the default) and everything is taken care of
automagically.  At least that's what my Linksys did.




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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Jody Cleveland
Hello,

 Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server?

I don't know...

Jody


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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Anthony Abby
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:16, Jody Cleveland wrote:
 Hello,
 
  Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server?
 
 I don't know...
 


That's irrelevant right now... you need to get your network card working
first.  If you can't pint 127.0.0.1 then you're immediate problem is
linux isn't seeing your network card.



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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Anthony Abby
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 14:16, Jody Cleveland wrote:
 Hello,
 
  Are you using your Belkin as a DHCP server?
 
 I don't know...


Well in Windows... do you have windows set up to pick up an IP from a
DHCP?  Or is it static?



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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Anthony Abby
 Well, if I type ping localhost, it says the network is unavailable. But, if
 I go into connection settings for network, it lists eth0 as having an ip
 address. The weird thing is, the driver listed for the network card is
 tulip. Does that make any sense? Should I try to download a new driver for
 my card?


What type of network card do you have?  Is it on the hcl?

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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Jody Cleveland
 Well in Windows... do you have windows set up to pick up an IP from a
 DHCP?  Or is it static?

I have it set to automatically detect IP. I thought the DHCP was my
provider.


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[newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Jody Cleveland
 What type of network card do you have?

Linksys LNE100 TX

 Is it on the hcl?

?

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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Guy Rouillier

- Original Message -
From: Jody Cleveland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?


  What type of network card do you have?

 Linksys LNE100 TX

I have that exact card - tulip is the correct driver for it.  It should work
out of the box with Mandrake 9 (at least it did for me.)  I imagine you
did not click the dhcp checkbox during network configuration when you
installed.  As I mentioned earlier, that is not the default.  Saw your other
post about your Windows configuration using DHCP, so all you've got to do is
get the DHCP client up and running and you should be okay. Unfortunately,
I'm a Mandrake newbie myself (total experience 3 days) so I'll have to leave
it to others to identify how you configure the DHCP client post-install.




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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Saturday 04 January 2003 02:10, you wrote:
  adsl-setup

 got adsl-setup: command not found

  urpmi rp-pppoe

 get adsl-setup: command not found

 Any other way to get it?

 Jody

i don't get it. you got a command not found error
when you tried to use urpmi?

anyway, here's an URL, if you feel this is more comfortable...

http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/rp-pppoe-3.5-1.i386.rpm

download this, then boot back to Linux, install it, and then 
adsl-setup away.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] DSL Configuration - How?

2003-01-03 Thread Damian Gatabria

 What should I have set for my network card?

 Jody

I might be wrong, but there's probably nothing wrong 
with your card. Just leave the defaults for now.


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Re: [newbie] dsl trouble

2002-09-05 Thread dfox

 Hello, Good after-noon I have a problem I currently have aol-dsl, so to use the 
service in linux I installed vmware, and created windows their. But I would like to 
know is their a way to combine the connection from the vmware onto my linux. I'm 
currently running Mandrake 8.2 with kde-3.0.3.
  

How about getting a new DSL provider? Where are you located?

 
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Re: [newbie] dsl trouble

2002-09-05 Thread Anthony V
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Re: [newbie] dsl trouble

2002-09-05 Thread Carroll Grigsby

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Re: [newbie] DSL 2 Connect

2002-02-05 Thread Paul Rodríguez

In Mandrake Control Center, go to network configuration, click on
expert, then click on the Configure Internet Access button.  Use the
pull-down menu to select eth0.  That is the first ethernet device
detected by your system.  SHould work fine.

- Paul Rodríguez

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 08:23, Juan DaNewbie wrote:
Hello Everyone,
 
I am new to Mandrake and I have installed 7.1 Deluxe ,I have had for
about a year or less, on my laptop. The problem is I am trying to
connect to the internet and I have a pmcia card with modem and
ethernet on one (linksys). Linux see the modem and tries to connect
to the internet through the modem but I need to be able to connect
through the otherside, ethernet side since I have DSL. How can I
make Mandrake use this as the internet port?
 
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[newbie] DSL 2 Connect

2002-01-29 Thread Juan DaNewbie

Hello Everyone,

I am new to Mandrake and I have installed 7.1 Deluxe ,I have had for about a year or less, on my laptop. The problem is I am trying to connect to the internet and I have a pmcia card with modem and ethernet on one (linksys). Linux see the modem and tries to connect to the internet through the modem but I need to be able to connect through the otherside, ethernet side since I have DSL. How can I make Mandrake use this as the internet port?

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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!

2001-10-24 Thread Dave Sherman

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On Wednesday 24 October 2001 00:05, Paul Schwebel 
 spouted off about Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!:
 Dave and Paul,

 I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake
 last night because I have played around with so many
 files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the
 install.

Understandable. I've done the same thing myself, in the past.

 I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and
 carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially
 with NO firewall, since the instructions for
 adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting
 AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would
 pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any
 servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall
 setting.

If you don't know, then you probably aren't running anything you want 
others to be able to see. It is very possible that Mandrake has enabled 
one or more servers by default, but you are safe using a firewall to block 
them.

I would highly recommend going into Mandrake's Control Panel and setting 
up a firewall. But first, read the firewall-howto (in the Documentation 
section, in the HOWTOs). The howto is a bit out of date (uses ipchains 
instead of iptables), but at least you will gain a grasp of what is going 
on under the covers when you create a firewall using Mandrake's tool.

 Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up
 my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good.
 Now I can post the newbie group about something else!

Congratulations, and have fun with your new Linux system.

Dave
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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues

2001-10-23 Thread Paul Schwebel

Thanks Dave, I will check on this and post you back.
Since my system is not really live yet (I'm still
dual booting from WinMe) I did a complete reinstall
last night. I had tried so many leads that I wasn't
sure what state my system was in, and (sigh) didn't
document as I went. 

I will this time.

-Paul

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 opined on the topic: Re: 
 [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
  Dave,
 
  Thanks for the clarification on my questions.
  Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their
  Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They
 are:
  207.69.188.185
  207.69.188.186
  207.69.188.187
 
  I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in
 the
  rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I
  can't seem to connect with their email servers,
  pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm
 not
  sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is
  also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now
 that I
  think about it, I guess DNS must be involved.
 
 Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-)
 
  Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've
  missed?
 
 No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long
 as you have the IP 
 addresses in your resolv.conf.
 
 You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an
 xterm:
   rpm -qa|grep bind
 
 and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you
 will need to install 
 it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server),
 then you may guess that 
 bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name
 resolution and other 
 information gathering.
 
  Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but
 I
  switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to
 be a
  more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was
 able
  to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect
  under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue.
 
 I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x
 version. Back then (a couple 
 of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up
 switching to Caldera, 
 and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of
 a friend.
 
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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!

2001-10-23 Thread Paul Schwebel

Dave and Paul,

I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake
last night because I have played around with so many
files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the
install.

I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and
carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially
with NO firewall, since the instructions for
adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting
AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would
pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any
servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall
setting. 

Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up
my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good.
Now I can post the newbie group about something else!

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues

2001-10-22 Thread Paul Schwebel

Dave, 

Thanks for the clarification on my questions.
Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their
Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are:
207.69.188.185
207.69.188.186
207.69.188.187

I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the
rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I
can't seem to connect with their email servers,
pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not
sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is
also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I
think about it, I guess DNS must be involved.

Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've
missed?

Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I
switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a
more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able
to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect
under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue.

Thanks for the help,
-Paul

--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.
.
.
  But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP
  addresses.
 
 If you can ing using an IP address but not using a
 domain name, then the 
 problem almost certainly is in the domain
 resolution.
 
  Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info:
.
.
.
  lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
.
.
.
  I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem.
 
 LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a
 network. The reason is 
 that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps
 (including X Windows), and they 
 need some sort of network to run properly. The local
 loopback provides 
 this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you
 have a real network 
 connection, you still need the local loopback.
 
  Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they
 say
  DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot
 time.
  How do I do this?
 
 Go into Control Center, open the Services, and
 disable Networking on boot.
 
  AND here's another possible cause of my problem.
 Is
  httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A'
  while rp-pppoe is connected I get this:
 
  Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be
 there?
 
 httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not
 need it for your PC to 
 be connected to the Internet.
 
  Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to
 be
  as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions
 and
  my questions.
 
 No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost
 certainly with your 
 domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach
 the DNS servers you 
 specified, or else the DNS servers are not
 responding. What are the IP 
 addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers?
 
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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues

2001-10-22 Thread Robert MacLean

you can get around the DNS by using the IP address of there pop and
smtp servers.

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- Original Message -
From: Paul Schwebel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues


 Dave,

 Thanks for the clarification on my questions.
 Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their
 Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are:
 207.69.188.185
 207.69.188.186
 207.69.188.187

 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the
 rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I
 can't seem to connect with their email servers,
 pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not
 sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is
 also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I
 think about it, I guess DNS must be involved.

 Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've
 missed?

 Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I
 switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a
 more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able
 to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect
 under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue.

 Thanks for the help,
 -Paul

 --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 .
 .
 .
   But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP
   addresses.
 
  If you can ing using an IP address but not using a
  domain name, then the
  problem almost certainly is in the domain
  resolution.
 
   Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info:
 .
 .
 .
   lo Link encap:Local Loopback
 inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
 .
 .
 .
   I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem.
 
  LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a
  network. The reason is
  that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps
  (including X Windows), and they
  need some sort of network to run properly. The local
  loopback provides
  this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you
  have a real network
  connection, you still need the local loopback.
 
   Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they
  say
   DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot
  time.
   How do I do this?
 
  Go into Control Center, open the Services, and
  disable Networking on boot.
 
   AND here's another possible cause of my problem.
  Is
   httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A'
   while rp-pppoe is connected I get this:
 
   Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be
  there?
 
  httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not
  need it for your PC to
  be connected to the Internet.
 
   Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to
  be
   as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions
  and
   my questions.
 
  No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost
  certainly with your
  domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach
  the DNS servers you
  specified, or else the DNS servers are not
  responding. What are the IP
  addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers?
 
  Dave



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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues

2001-10-22 Thread Dave Sherman

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On Monday 22 October 2001 10:13, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: 
[newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
 Dave,

 Thanks for the clarification on my questions.
 Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their
 Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are:
 207.69.188.185
 207.69.188.186
 207.69.188.187

 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the
 rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I
 can't seem to connect with their email servers,
 pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not
 sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is
 also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I
 think about it, I guess DNS must be involved.

Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-)

 Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've
 missed?

No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long as you have the IP 
addresses in your resolv.conf.

You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an xterm:
rpm -qa|grep bind

and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you will need to install 
it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server), then you may guess that 
bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name resolution and other 
information gathering.

 Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I
 switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a
 more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able
 to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect
 under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue.

I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x version. Back then (a couple 
of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up switching to Caldera, 
and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of a friend.

Dave
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[newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues

2001-10-21 Thread Paul Schwebel

I'm still trying to connect my Mandrake 8.1 box to the
Internet via an Earthlink/Mindspring DSL connection.
I've gone over the various suggestions I've gotten
from this list and others, done some reading and
reconfiguring. I'm not there yet, but I'm closer.
Here's what's going on:

I'm using the rp-pppoe gui.  When I start the link,
the gui appears to connect, that is, it goes 'green'. 
However, I can't connect with either a Web browser, or
any mail client. I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and
/etc/ppp/resolv.conf and they have the correct entries
for Mindspring's DNS servers.

But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP
addresses.

Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info:

[root@localhost root]# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:DA:7C:BC:C7
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:67 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:5849 (5.7 Kb)  TX bytes:12355 (12.0 Kb)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb)  TX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb)

I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. My
recollection of local loopback means that the PC is
only sending IP to itself? I'm not sure why I can
ping, unless the loopback doesn't apply to ICMP
packets. In any case, if this is a problem, can
someone tell me?  Also, if it IS the problem, how do I
get rid of it permanently? I've looked thru linuxconf
and several man pages to no avail!

Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say
DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time.
How do I do this?

AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is
httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' 
while rp-pppoe is connected I get this:

  PID TTY  TIME CMD
1 ?00:00:04 init
3 ?00:00:00 keventd
4 ?02:07:10 kapm-idled
5 ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0
6 ?00:00:00 kswapd
7 ?00:00:00 kreclaimd
8 ?00:00:00 bdflush
9 ?00:00:00 kupdated
   10 ?00:00:00 mdrecoveryd
  113 ?00:00:00 devfsd
  142 ?00:00:00 open
  147 vc/1100:00:04 Monitor-NewStyl
  897 ?00:00:00 khubd
 1360 ?00:00:00 portmap
 1382 ?00:00:00 syslogd
 1390 ?00:00:00 klogd
 1484 ?00:00:00 apmd
 1509 ?00:00:00 atd
 1589 ?00:00:00 cupsd
 1767 ?00:00:00 gpm
 1964 ?00:00:00 crond
 1988 ?00:00:01 xfs
 2176 vc/1 00:00:00 mingetty
 2177 vc/2 00:00:00 mingetty
 2178 vc/3 00:00:00 mingetty
 2179 vc/4 00:00:00 mingetty
 2180 vc/5 00:00:00 mingetty
 2181 vc/6 00:00:00 mingetty
 2182 ?00:00:00 kdm
 2193 ?00:00:24 X
 2194 ?00:00:00 kdm
 2296 ?00:00:00 startkde
 2316 ?00:00:01 medusa-idled
 2392 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 2395 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 2398 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 2405 ?00:00:03 artsd
 2444 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 2472 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 2473 ?00:00:00 ksmserver
 2482 ?00:00:03 kdeinit
 2484 ?00:00:03 kdeinit
 2486 ?00:00:04 kdeinit
 2494 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 2495 pts/000:00:00 cat
 2497 ?00:00:00 alarmd
 2927 ?00:00:05 wish
 2928 ?00:00:00 ifconfig defunct
 3049 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 3053 ?00:00:00 kdesud
 3253 ?00:00:00 xinetd
 3457 ?00:00:00 gnome-terminal
 3459 ?00:00:00 gnome-name-serv
 3461 ?00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe
 3462 pts/100:00:00 bash
 3499 ?00:00:00 kdeinit
 3593 ?00:00:00 adsl-connect
 3607 ?00:00:00 pppd
 3608 ?00:00:00 pppoe
 3656 pts/100:00:00 ps

Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there?

Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be
as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and
my questions.

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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues

2001-10-21 Thread Dave Sherman

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On Sunday 21 October 2001 21:24, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: 
[newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
 I'm using the rp-pppoe gui.  When I start the link,
 the gui appears to connect, that is, it goes 'green'.
 However, I can't connect with either a Web browser, or
 any mail client. I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and
 /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and they have the correct entries
 for Mindspring's DNS servers.

 But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP
 addresses.

If you can ing using an IP address but not using a domain name, then the 
problem almost certainly is in the domain resolution.

 Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info:

 [root@localhost root]# ifconfig
 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:DA:7C:BC:C7
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:67 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:5849 (5.7 Kb)  TX bytes:12355 (12.0 Kb)
   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00

 lo Link encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb)  TX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb)

 I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. My
 recollection of local loopback means that the PC is
 only sending IP to itself? I'm not sure why I can
 ping, unless the loopback doesn't apply to ICMP
 packets. In any case, if this is a problem, can
 someone tell me?  Also, if it IS the problem, how do I
 get rid of it permanently? I've looked thru linuxconf
 and several man pages to no avail!

LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a network. The reason is 
that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps (including X Windows), and they 
need some sort of network to run properly. The local loopback provides 
this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you have a real network 
connection, you still need the local loopback.

 Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say
 DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time.
 How do I do this?

Go into Control Center, open the Services, and disable Networking on boot.

 AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is
 httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A'
 while rp-pppoe is connected I get this:

 Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there?

httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not need it for your PC to 
be connected to the Internet.

 Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be
 as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and
 my questions.

No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost certainly with your 
domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach the DNS servers you 
specified, or else the DNS servers are not responding. What are the IP 
addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers?

Dave
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[newbie] DSL and 8.1

2001-10-19 Thread Paul Schwebel

I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm
trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware
connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a
standalone Linux box.

I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the
Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com
3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up
options that I don't understand: under the
NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control
Center, it has one section called Internet Access
and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a
standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of
these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem
attached to my NIC?

When I try the wizard or the Expert mode, I can't get
the thing to connect.

I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to
connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or
use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake.

Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to
know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what
files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I
know where to look.  I don't have a clear idea of the
same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and
HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix
knowledge assumed.

Thanks,
-Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel

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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1

2001-10-19 Thread Dave Sherman

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On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: 
[newbie] DSL and 8.1
 I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm
 trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware
 connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a
 standalone Linux box.

Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I 
will assume an external DLS modem...

 I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the
 Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com
 3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up
 options that I don't understand: under the
 NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control
 Center, it has one section called Internet Access
 and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a
 standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of
 these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem
 attached to my NIC?

Just use the LAN Configuration. Ignore the other options.

 I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to
 connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or
 use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake.

Using the LAN connection setup, you don't really need PPPOE.

 Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to
 know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what
 files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I
 know where to look.  I don't have a clear idea of the
 same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and
 HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix
 knowledge assumed.

I have DSL at home, with an external DSL modem/router, and it works like 
this: The DSL router (which is really what it is) acts as my default 
gateway. It connects to my ISP all by itself, and it contains all the 
user, password, etc. information it needs to do this automatically. I can 
completely ignore it.

My various PCs (one Windows, one RedHat Linux server that does DHCP for me 
plus some other services, one Mandrake 8.1 laptop) all use the DSL router 
as their default gateway (this option is assigned by the DHCP server). 
They are all connected via a hub, and the router is also on the hub. 
Pretty basic, right? You are even more basic, just a single PC with a 
crossover ethernet cable connecting you to your DSL router/modem.

I need to make another assumption: your DSL modem is also acting as a 
router, and not a bridge. This means that it is also acting like a 
mini-firewall, masquerading your internal network (even if it is just 
one PC) from the external Internet. If it were a bridge, then your PCs 
would all need to have public IP addresses, and you would want a real 
firewall in place to protect them. Your router is probably also set up to 
do DHCP for you (mine was, but I disabled it) on your internal network.

Therefore, you can choose a LAN Connection, and simply tell Mandrake to 
use DHCP for your NIC. And that's it. The DSL router (acting as a gateway 
and DHCP server) takes care of the rest.

If you want the nitty-gritty on exactly which config files are used to set 
up your networking, consult the networking-howto.

Hope this helps,
Dave
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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1

2001-10-19 Thread Paul Rodríguez

If you're using a standalone computer, you don't need to setup any LAN
settings.  I'm not sure whay you would be having trouble connecting
using the Control Center.  Did you set the primary and secondary DNS
numbers that your DSL provider gave you?  

Using the roaring penguin software, check to see whether the
ping/browsing problem is ocurring just as a regular user or as root as
well.  It may be a problem with firewall settings.

Also, as far as documentation, check out the man pages for
adsl-setupand adsl-start.

-Paul Rodríguez

On Fri, 2001-10-19 at 13:17, Paul Schwebel wrote:
 I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm
 trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware
 connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a
 standalone Linux box.
 
 I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the
 Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com
 3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up
 options that I don't understand: under the
 NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control
 Center, it has one section called Internet Access
 and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a
 standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of
 these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem
 attached to my NIC?
 
 When I try the wizard or the Expert mode, I can't get
 the thing to connect.
 
 I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to
 connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or
 use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake.
 
 Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to
 know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what
 files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I
 know where to look.  I don't have a clear idea of the
 same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and
 HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix
 knowledge assumed.
 
 Thanks,
 -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel
 
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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1

2001-10-19 Thread Paul Schwebel


--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel
 I'm
  trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a
 hardware
  connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a
  standalone Linux box.
 
 Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or
 an internal card? I 
 will assume an external DLS modem...

This is an external DSL modem. I'm fairly sure it's
not a router, since my PC, formerly WinMe, was
responsible for a user ID and password.
 
  I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the
  Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com
.
.
.
  standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of
  these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem
  attached to my NIC?
 
 Just use the LAN Configuration. Ignore the other
 options.
I will try this. 


  Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like
 to
  know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know
.
.
. would want a real 
 firewall in place to protect them. Your router is
 probably also set up to 
 do DHCP for you (mine was, but I disabled it) on
 your internal network.
 
 Therefore, you can choose a LAN Connection, and
 simply tell Mandrake to 
 use DHCP for your NIC. And that's it. The DSL router
 (acting as a gateway 
 and DHCP server) takes care of the rest.
Again, I will try this, but I think my DSL device is
strictly a modem. When I was running WinMe, I had it
configured for DHCP. When I first started playing with
Linux, I had a SuSE 7.1 install that worked by using
rp-pppoe, but I'm still so new at Linux that I don't
know what else is required for the connection. When I
set up rp-pppoe on Mandrake I still couldn't connect.

 
 If you want the nitty-gritty on exactly which config
 files are used to set 
 up your networking, consult the networking-howto.
 
 Hope this helps,
 Dave
Thanks, this is all very informative,
-Paul

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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1

2001-10-19 Thread Dave Sherman

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On Friday 19 October 2001 15:08, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: 
[newbie] DSL and 8.1
 --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel
  I'm
 
   trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a
 
  hardware
 
   connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a
   standalone Linux box.
 
  Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or
  an internal card? I
  will assume an external DLS modem...

 This is an external DSL modem. I'm fairly sure it's
 not a router, since my PC, formerly WinMe, was
 responsible for a user ID and password.

If this is the case, then my advice is probably incorrect. Unfortunately, 
I haven't dealt with the type of DSL you have, so I don't think I can 
help...

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Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1

2001-10-19 Thread Paul Schwebel


--- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you're using a standalone computer, you don't
 need to setup any LAN
 settings.  I'm not sure whay you would be having
 trouble connecting
 using the Control Center.  Did you set the primary
 and secondary DNS
 numbers that your DSL provider gave you?  
Yes, I set those.


 Using the roaring penguin software, check to see
 whether the
 ping/browsing problem is ocurring just as a regular
 user or as root as
 well.  It may be a problem with firewall settings.
How would I check this?

 
 Also, as far as documentation, check out the man
 pages for
 adsl-setupand adsl-start.
 
 -Paul Rodríguez
Thanks, will do.

I'm wondering if I have to delete the LAN settings I
already have (I have tried several different
configurations options, so I think both ADSL and LAN
are configured).

 On Fri, 2001-10-19 at 13:17, Paul Schwebel wrote:
  trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a
 hardware
  connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a
  standalone Linux box.
  
  I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the
.
.
.

  files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration,
 and I
  know where to look.  I don't have a clear idea of
 the
  same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages
 and
  HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix
  knowledge assumed.
  
  Thanks,
  -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel
  


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[newbie] DSL/konnex connector

2001-07-12 Thread jennifer

This is not really a Mandrake question, But I was
hoping one of you might know whether or not I can use
a konnex connector to be able to dial over a DSL
line. My company currently does not support VPN and
because I have DSL, I cannot dial my employer. My
computer is in a room without a phoneline, so having a
modem and ethernet connection is not feasible. I know
that Konnex works with the digital phone network at
work to allow dial-up connections, but I am unsure how
I might be able to do the same thing from home.

Thanks in advance,



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[newbie] DSL issues

2001-05-19 Thread DeadlyMewtwo
Hey all. I'm running a Hewlett Packard Pavilion 733 Mhz pentium 3 with 128 
ram and an ATI radeon 32 MB graphics card.
So far, so good. 
LM is installed (Lnx4Win) and seems to be wortking well with my graphics card.
The only problem I'm having is setting it up to access the internet. 
I've tried entering various numbers from my ISP's info sheet, but to no avail.
In the Control Panel - Network section of Windows it has two different ones-

3com EtherLink 10/100 PCI TX NIC (3C905B-TX)
And
HP EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter

Both are configured in the same way. When I run the internet configuration 
program in Linux it says it will restart the device "Eth0" or something of 
the sort.
Why can't I select between these two? Why are there 50 more fields to enter 
information on Windows than there is in Linux? Is there a way I can get a 
more *Custom* configuration with Linux that will help me?

I am really looking foreword to using Linux as opposed to Windows but I first 
need to get it on the internet.
Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks!



[newbie] DSL

2000-12-13 Thread Glenn Johnson


Joe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your DSL connection.
Glenn...
Glenn Johnson
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RE: [newbie] DSL

2000-12-13 Thread Charles A Edwards



I have to DCHP to a 
windows box to use mine, other thanthat it is active and 
healthy.

 Charles 
((-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. 

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn 
  JohnsonSent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:22 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
  DSLJoe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your 
  DSL connection. 
  Glenn... Glenn Johnson
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Registered Linux user #175132
Powered by Linux-Mandrake 7.1 


Re: [newbie] DSL

2000-12-13 Thread Joe Lore



I have been very busy at work and have not had time 
to even turn on my home system.

I will try your suggestions this weekend and let 
you know.

I appreciate the follow up.

Thanks

Joe

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Glenn 
  Johnson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:22 
  PM
  Subject: [newbie] DSL
  Joe Lore, just wondering how you've made out with your DSL 
  connection. 
  Glenn... Glenn Johnson
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[newbie] DSL provider

2000-11-14 Thread KompuKit

Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts
area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00)

That provides a static IP...

just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs
anymore.
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RE: [newbie] DSL provider

2000-11-14 Thread Bill Shirley

I use telocity.com.  They might cover your area.  The have some sort of agreement with 
the local phone company.  Bell South actually provides the DSL line.

Telocity gives you a static IP address, 2nd month free, DSL modem free ($25 to ship to 
you), 5 line filters, and 5 email addresses (but who needs them with postfix running). 
 Their news server is great.  All for $49.95 a month.  Tech. support sux.

Bill


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KompuKit
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:49 AM
To: Linux-Mandrake
Subject: [newbie] DSL provider


Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts
area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00)

That provides a static IP...

just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs
anymore.
-- 
 Registered Linux User:167369
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Re: [newbie] DSL provider

2000-11-14 Thread KompuKit

thanks, but no thanks...you need a credit card before they
will accept you...
and I don't have one...nor do I want one...

Bill Shirley wrote:
 
 I use telocity.com.  They might cover your area.  The have some sort of agreement 
with the local phone company.  Bell South actually provides the DSL line.
 
 Telocity gives you a static IP address, 2nd month free, DSL modem free ($25 to ship 
to you), 5 line filters, and 5 email addresses (but who needs them with postfix 
running).  Their news server is great.  All for $49.95 a month.  Tech. support sux.
 
 Bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of


 KompuKit
 Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:49 AM
 To: Linux-Mandrake
 Subject: [newbie] DSL provider
 
 Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts
 area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00)
 
 That provides a static IP...
 
 just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs
 anymore.
 --
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 =KompuKit=
 Kit Goins   ICQ# 7110071
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass.
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Re: [newbie] DSL provider

2000-11-14 Thread Eddie Torres

I believe your only option is to find someone local because most national
dsl providers will want a credit card.


On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, you wrote:
 thanks, but no thanks...you need a credit card before they
 will accept you...
 and I don't have one...nor do I want one...
 
 Bill Shirley wrote:
  
  I use telocity.com.  They might cover your area.  The have some sort of agreement 
with the local phone company.  Bell South actually provides the DSL line.
  
  Telocity gives you a static IP address, 2nd month free, DSL modem free ($25 to 
ship to you), 5 line filters, and 5 email addresses (but who needs them with postfix 
running).  Their news server is great.  All for $49.95 a month.  Tech. support sux.
  
  Bill
  
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 
 
  KompuKit
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:49 AM
  To: Linux-Mandrake
  Subject: [newbie] DSL provider
  
  Does anyone know of a DSL provider in the Massachusetts
  area...that's not too expensive...(around $49.00)
  
  That provides a static IP...
  
  just called Verizon...and they don't offer static IPs
  anymore.
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[newbie] DSL install

2000-11-04 Thread KompuKit

I'm thinking of getting DSL from Verison...

is there a cheaper provider...then them...
that doesn't require credit cards??
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Re: [newbie] DSL install

2000-11-04 Thread rbh

I am running DSL from Verizon with my Mandrake 7.0 system... it is easy to
configure, and has been very reliable so far... Even more amazing is the
fact that the technical support people I have dealt with actually know their
stuff!!

I would give it a "thumbs up"

rbh
Linux User 193554

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From: "KompuKit" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Linux-Mandrake" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:56 AM
Subject: [newbie] DSL install


 I'm thinking of getting DSL from Verison...

 is there a cheaper provider...then them...
 that doesn't require credit cards??
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[newbie] DSL Configuration

2000-10-09 Thread Paul Figura

Dear Macmillian/Mandrake Support,

I have  DSL High speed Internet access, but am having some trouble
getting it configured for my linux Machine. I'm having quite a few
hurdles to pass. First of all, My Network card does not want to detect.
I tried using ifconfig, and it does not show up, although it detects in
harddrake (Where it gives it the wrong driver)
I think that's my main problem. I downloaded the drivers neccessary for
linux to log into the network, although they are a little rudimentary.
In case you need the information, my network card is a "D-Link DE-528CT
(32-bit PCI Adaptor)"
I hope you can help me out. I'm not necessarily new to linux, I've
played around with REdhat 5.2, but I'm definatley not an expert!
Thank your for your time,

Sincerely,
Paul Figura





RE: [newbie] DSL

2000-10-04 Thread webmaster

Steve:

 Did you ever get an answer

 I have the same prob.


Thnx

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Dressler
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] DSL




  I have 2 win98 machines, and networked with ADSL going to both computers,
I also have a IBM Server 320 with mandrake 7.1 installed on it.  How much
trouble is it to connect it to the network so I can have DSL going to it?

  Sorry if this has been topic before.





Re: [newbie] DSL

2000-09-27 Thread Robert Scripter

Steve Dressler wrote:
 
   I have 2 win98 machines, and networked with ADSL going to both computers,
 I also have a IBM Server 320 with mandrake 7.1 installed on it.  How much
 trouble is it to connect it to the network so I can have DSL going to it?
 
   Sorry if this has been topic before.

If your DSL is connected to one of the Win98 machines, you could use a
program called NAT32 - http://www.nat32.com - that will easily connect
all machines through one.  I use it right now and it is awesome.  I
highly recommend it.

Rob Scripter




[newbie] DSL

2000-09-25 Thread Steve Dressler



  I have 2 win98 machines, and networked with ADSL going to both computers, 
I also have a IBM Server 320 with mandrake 7.1 installed on it.  How much 
trouble is it to connect it to the network so I can have DSL going to it?

  Sorry if this has been topic before.





Re: [newbie] DSL setup

2000-09-15 Thread Paul R

Glenn Johnson wrote:
 
 Yes. You need to type (as root), 'adsl-start' and you will see a few dots
 echoed, and then it will (should) say 'Connected!'. At that point you can
 surf the web, get your mail, etc...  To disconnect you type 'adsl-stop'.
 
 I'm assuming you have a dynamic IP address? I do (Bell Atlantic). If so, you
 need only to untar the rp-pppoe package, change to the directory created,
 run command "./go and the software prety much does the rest. Answer a few
 questions, then read the included 'HOW-TO-CONNECT file. After I did this I
 could connect but I couldn't go anywhere online. I believe there was a
 problem resolving host names (correct me here if I'm wrong, group). I used
 Windows' ipconfig utility to get my current DNS server number, back to
 Linux, added the info to my /etc/resolve.conf file ( nameserver
 123.45.678.90) , connected again and I was good to go. Works like a charm!
 
 The best advice is to pay STRICT attention to the 'HOW-TO-CONNECT' file. Do
 exactly as it says.
 
 A question to the group: How can I make it so I can use the adsl commands as
 a regular user. Right now I have to su to run them if I'm logged on as 'joe
 user'.  If I try it as 'joe user' it says 'no such file' or something like
 that.
 
 Glenn Johnson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Registered Linux User #175132
 Usually powered by Mandrake Linux 7.1

I'm also using Bell Atlantic DSL, and I have to su to run adsl-start.
Just a little note though, I always log out and back in as a normal user
to spend time on the internet for safety's sake.  When I nned to log
off, I su again.  Is it ok to let the system automatically log out but
initiating the shutdown?  Anyway, just a little system security (from
yourself :).

-Paul R

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