[newbie] Mail cron job output.
I am running the following cron job: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 I get the following message : Output from command /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 .. /bin/sh: line 1: mail: command not found Any ideas how to get the mail command to work? TIA, Simon. -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mail cron job output.
I am running the following cron job: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 I get the following message : Output from command /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 .. /bin/sh: line 1: mail: command not found Any ideas how to get the mail command to work? TIA, Simon. -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 March 2005 13:58, Simon wrote: I am running the following cron job: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 I get the following message : Output from command /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 .. /bin/sh: line 1: mail: command not found Any ideas how to get the mail command to work? TIA, Simon. Try /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | /bin/mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 If that does not work check the mail package is installed. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 Mar 2005 14:15, Derek Jennings wrote: Try /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | /bin/mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 If that does not work check the mail package is installed. Derek I tried that but it failed with : /bin/sh: line 1: /bin/mail: No such file or directory what mail package should I have installed? -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 March 2005 07:58 am, Simon wrote: I am running the following cron job: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 I get the following message : Output from command /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 .. /bin/sh: line 1: mail: command not found Any ideas how to get the mail command to work? TIA, Simon. Simon, this is how I have my rkhunter cronjob setup /usr/local/bin/rkhunter --cronjob --createlogfile -c and I have the following entry in my /etc/crontab: SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] therefore all cronjob outputs are sent to my email address, this includes my Spamassassin statistics outputs, hourly logcheck output, and rules_du_jour output. HTH Chris -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 08:43:53 up 12 days, 13:18, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.43, 0.46 Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk Blow it out your ear. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 Mar 2005 14:50, Chris wrote: Simon, this is how I have my rkhunter cronjob setup /usr/local/bin/rkhunter --cronjob --createlogfile -c and I have the following entry in my /etc/crontab: SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] therefore all cronjob outputs are sent to my email address, this includes my Spamassassin statistics outputs, hourly logcheck output, and rules_du_jour output. Thanks for that Chris, my Mailto is root which has not been a problem in the past as I have just put the email address in the pipe.(Pre the last fresh intall of Mdk 10.1) The problem is that there seems to be no mail package??? Any ideas? -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 March 2005 14:38, Simon wrote: On Saturday 26 Mar 2005 14:15, Derek Jennings wrote: Try /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | /bin/mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 If that does not work check the mail package is installed. Derek I tried that but it failed with : /bin/sh: line 1: /bin/mail: No such file or directory what mail package should I have installed? mailx derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 Mar 2005 15:17, Derek Jennings wrote: mailx That's it Derek, I installed the missing mail program and all works fine now. Thanks to Chris and your good self. Simon. -- Linux Counter number 359744. http://counter.li.org/ GnuPG Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE94E2292 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 23:35, Simon wrote: I am running the following cron job: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 I get the following message : Output from command /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 .. /bin/sh: line 1: mail: command not found Any ideas how to get the mail command to work? TIA, Simon. You want to have absolute paths in that script: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | /usr/bin/mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Wear Apple/Macintosh garb to show the world that we're not crawling into holes and dying. -- Guy Kawasaki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail cron job output.
On Saturday 26 Mar 2005 22:33, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 23:35, Simon wrote: I am running the following cron job: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 I get the following message : Output from command /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 .. /bin/sh: line 1: mail: command not found Any ideas how to get the mail command to work? TIA, Simon. You want to have absolute paths in that script: /usr/bin/rkhunter -c | /usr/bin/mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Rkhunter Check 21 -- stephen kuhn Thanks Stephen. It turned out I didn't have the mail package installed Regards, Simon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mail Archiving
Hi Folks I use Kontact for all my email at the moment, but some of the mailing lists I am on I would like to keep the messages of rather than finding the information on the web again. What I want is a way to access the mail without the use of Kontact, do you see what I mean?? Cheers, Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Archiving
On Saturday 15 Jan 2005 22:43, Lorin Pino wrote: On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 16:24 +, Elwyn wrote: Hi Folks I use Kontact for all my email at the moment, but some of the mailing lists I am on I would like to keep the messages of rather than finding the information on the web again. What I want is a way to access the mail without the use of Kontact, do you see what I mean?? Cheers, Elwyn Plain text document attachment (message.footer) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com ___ This may not be a very convenient solution, but in migrating from windows (and checking mail with different stand alone machines) I saved any messages that I thought would be useful to a floppy. Then you can use a browser (KDE's Konqueror) to look back at saved messages. HTH ~Lorin I was rather looking for an option to save, for example, the current mailbox with about 13,000 messages in. Kontact is managing OK at the moment But TIA Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail server setup 9.2?
On Monday 20 December 2004 01:34 am, Eric Scott wrote: Okay, I tried this a while back with no success. Basically, I need a basic, step-by-step explanation of how to set up a sendmail server and courier-pop server on Mandrake 9.2, and how to add oodles of pop3 clients. I'm setting this up for a medium-large buisness, as they've had no success with their own Windows-based mail servers in front of their firewall ;-). Sendmail and Courier-IMAP-pop are installed and running. Thanx in advance, SigmaChi For a quick solution, I'd suggest this: http://www.qmailrocks.org/ -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 06:31:12 up 1 day, 9:54, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mail server setup 9.2?
Okay, I tried this a while back with no success. Basically, I need a basic, step-by-step explanation of how to set up a sendmail server and courier-pop server on Mandrake 9.2, and how to add oodles of pop3 clients. I'm setting this up for a medium-large buisness, as they've had no success with their own Windows-based mail servers in front of their firewall ;-). Sendmail and Courier-IMAP-pop are installed and running. Thanx in advance, SigmaChi -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail problem
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 23:34, Cezary Morga wrote: I've got four mail accounts on polish free mail servers. Unfortunately I keep experiencing some problems when trying to send anything from three of them via SMTP. It takes a lot of time to just connect to them - the rest goes swell. Only one of them - the one I'm using right now - works without a hitch. I'm sorry, I can only think of the relaying problem already mentioned by Anne. Your ISP would have to use some kind of authentication or they'd be an open relay and open to abuse. Could you set your mail clients to use sendmail? (well postfix but it just works like that) That's what I do on my main box with Kmail. HTH Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail problem
On Friday 12 Nov 2004 23:34, Cezary Morga wrote: I've got four mail accounts on polish free mail servers. Unfortunately I keep experiencing some problems when trying to send anything from three of them via SMTP. It takes a lot of time to just connect to them - the rest goes swell. Only one of them - the one I'm using right now - works without a hitch. I'm not sure I've understood you correctly, with regard to the way that you are sending. One thing does spring to mind, though. With the UK ISPs, if you are connected through one ISP and attempt to use the smtp server of your other ISP account it will not be sent, as relaying is blocked. Could this be related? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail problem
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:16:51 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 12 Nov 2004 23:34, Cezary Morga wrote: I've got four mail accounts on polish free mail servers. Unfortunately I keep experiencing some problems when trying to send anything from three of them via SMTP. It takes a lot of time to just connect to them - the rest goes swell. Only one of them - the one I'm using right now - works without a hitch. I'm not sure I've understood you correctly, with regard to the way that you are sending. One thing does spring to mind, though. With the UK ISPs, if you are connected through one ISP and attempt to use the smtp server of your other ISP account it will not be sent, as relaying is blocked. Could this be related? No. My ISP doesn't even give me any e-mail account, so I doubt they would like to block it. And as I have mentioned the problem occurred some time ago - two weeks? I ain't sure. I have problems connecting to mail servers via SMTP (yes I've check if I'm using the right port). POP3 works well. -- Cezary Morga cezarym(at)andrake.org.pl / thereidos(at)@gmail.com Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: thereidos(at)ebox.pl backup email address: cezarym(at)pf.pl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail problem
On Saturday 13 November 2004 06:24, Cezary Morga wrote: No. My ISP doesn't even give me any e-mail account, so I doubt they would like to block it. And as I have mentioned the problem occurred some time ago - two weeks? I ain't sure. I have problems connecting to mail servers via SMTP (yes I've check if I'm using the right port). POP3 works well. The mail servers must be using some sort of authentication mechanism or else they would be blocked to here and back for running open relays and even if you could connect, it would do you little good because everyone would drop your mail server's packets anyway. Perhaps they are using POP before SMTP for authentication and require you to download or check your mail before sending? -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] mail problem
Hi 'all. Sorry for bugging ya but I've got this problem and I'm begining to think that it might be something wrong 'round here - at my box. I've got four mail accounts on polish free mail servers. Unfortunately I keep experiencing some problems when trying to send anything from three of them via SMTP. It takes a lot of time to just connect to them - the rest goes swell. Only one of them - the one I'm using right now - works without a hitch. It didn't happen some time ago. I really doubt that there's something wrong on the server side. The same problem occurs on Evolution, KMail and Sylpheed/Sylpheed-Claws so it's not a program fault. I thought that it might be even 'cause of firewall but shutting it down and clearing iptables did not help. Unfortunately I have no possibility to check it on any other distro/box right now. And I kinda doubt that it might be my ISP's fault. Maybe it derives from my ram problems posted on expert list? Maybe someone could point me to some good and free mail service abroad? -- Cezary Morga cezarym(at)andrake.org.pl / thereidos(at)@gmail.com Registered Linux User No. 362185 http://counter.li.org GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: thereidos(at)ebox.pl backup email address: cezarym(at)pf.pl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail command in shell script: how to attach a file?
Thank you guys for your hints and suggestions - I will try them asap ;-) -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO V_/_ please no html - mails -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail command in shell script: how to attach a file?
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 07:26, Harald T ZIPKO wrote: Thank you guys for your hints and suggestions - I will try them asap ;-) | formail -A X-Loop: aloop | \ sendmail -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (That's in my procmail - dunno about attaching - have you checked on the sendmail command? man sendmail) -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] mail command in shell script: how to attach a file?
Manually it's possible to copy the text from the file via ~r /name/of/the/file.txt But: How do I force 'mail' in a shell script to send a file as attachment to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (at the end of the week I would like to know quotas on a remote server) -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO V_/_ please no html - mails -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail command in shell script: how to attach a file?
Op Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:38:05 +0200 schreef Harald T ZIPKO: Manually it's possible to copy the text from the file via ~r /name/of/the/file.txt But: How do I force 'mail' in a shell script to send a file as attachment to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (at the end of the week I would like to know quotas on a remote server) Do you mean textfiles or binaries? For text it is simple: cat textfile | mail... For binaries it is not much harder: uuencode binary | mail... This works fine for me. Paul -- A cement mixer collided with a prison van on the Kingston Pass. Motorists are asked to be on the lookout for 16 hardened criminals. http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail command in shell script: how to attach a file?
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:38:05AM +0200, Harald T ZIPKO wrote: Manually it's possible to copy the text from the file via ~r /name/of/the/file.txt But: How do I force 'mail' in a shell script to send a file as attachment to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (at the end of the week I would like to know quotas on a remote server) (resending because I didn't see it come through--apologies for dupes) Have it read the file using I/O redirect ( and ) mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] /name/of/file.txt Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mail command in shell script: how to attach a file?
Todd Slater wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:38:05AM +0200, Harald T ZIPKO wrote: Manually it's possible to copy the text from the file via ~r /name/of/the/file.txt But: How do I force 'mail' in a shell script to send a file as attachment to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (at the end of the week I would like to know quotas on a remote server) (resending because I didn't see it come through--apologies for dupes) Have it read the file using I/O redirect ( and ) mail -s subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] /name/of/file.txt Or use mutt -a file-to-attach This will also work with binary files. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mail Server/Virus Protection
Sort of off topic, but no more so than zings and seasons so I'm going for it. My whole reason for installing Drake 10 was because my current virus protection vendor did another price hike and I decided to bail... I've pretty much decided to do clam (my mail server is qmail), but I thought the nice, intelligent people on this list could shed some light on the alternatives. To be quite frank, looking for a replacement is a pain and I haven't got the brain cells to weed through 5000 Google hits. Any recommendations? Brenda Bell Henniker (the only one on earth) New Hampshire (the state with 5 seasons: black fly, tourist, foliage, ski and mud) ... but we're not allowed to shoot the tourists :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Server/Virus Protection
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 08:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of off topic, but no more so than zings and seasons so I'm going for it. My whole reason for installing Drake 10 was because my current virus protection vendor did another price hike and I decided to bail... I've pretty much decided to do clam (my mail server is qmail), but I thought the nice, intelligent people on this list could shed some light on the alternatives. To be quite frank, looking for a replacement is a pain and I haven't got the brain cells to weed through 5000 Google hits. Any recommendations? Brenda Bell I use ClamAV, F-Prot and Panda, along with MailScanner, procmail recipes, html-trap.procmail and YARV recipe. Works great. stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Concerning the war in Vietnam, Senator George Aiken of Vermount noted in January, 1966, I'm not very keen for doves or hawks. I think we need more owls. -- Bill Adler, The Washington Wits Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Server/Virus Protection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of off topic, but no more so than zings and seasons so I'm going for it. My whole reason for installing Drake 10 was because my current virus protection vendor did another price hike and I decided to bail... I've pretty much decided to do clam (my mail server is qmail), but I thought the nice, intelligent people on this list could shed some light on the alternatives. To be quite frank, looking for a replacement is a pain and I haven't got the brain cells to weed through 5000 Google hits. Any recommendations? Brenda Bell Henniker (the only one on earth) New Hampshire (the state with 5 seasons: black fly, tourist, foliage, ski and mud) ... but we're not allowed to shoot the tourists :) Check out amavis-new. For high performance, spam and virus filtering, amavis-new is the glue between nearly every Linux antivirus app and the MTA itself. Many members on the amavis mailing list work for ISP's that are running amavis with postfix or qmail or Exim or Sendmail. Its a daemon that works via content filter in Postfix or milter in sendmail. bascically, with amavis-new, you have one daemon that can handle the spam filtering, (spamassassin) and virus filtering as well as extension blocking, protection against things like mailbombs. (like 42.zip) and many other features. I personally run many amavis-new boxes, all with Postfix, spamassassin, Clamd and trophie, (an open source daemonised program that runs Trends antivirus engine.) The performance is great, since everything is daemonised there is no startup delays, its never lost me an email for of my clients and blocks a ton of virus's. plus it supports nearly every antivirus product that is available for Linux. Check it out. http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ Don't be put off by the plain website, this program has a huge following. The reason I run it, more then any other, is because its a central point to mail processing, it doesnt' require that you mess with a ton of different many of which need seperate configuration. best of all its already packaged up and available on mdk10 contrib, you can have it up in running in about 10 minutes. (I know because I've done it over a dozen times now.) regards Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Server/Virus Protection
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:20:20 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following: Sort of off topic, but no more so than zings and seasons so I'm going for it. Not offtopic at all AFAIC, but, you know... My whole reason for installing Drake 10 was because my current virus protection vendor did another price hike and I decided to bail... I've pretty much decided to do clam (my mail server is qmail), but I thought the nice, intelligent people on this list could shed some light on the alternatives. To be quite frank, looking for a replacement is a pain and I haven't got the brain cells to weed through 5000 Google hits. Any recommendations? I second Stephen's rec for YAVR, if you are relatively familiar with Procmail, it's as easy to implement as falling off a chair, plus it catches a bunch of other nasties as well, like porn spam, free money scams, etc. *Very* frequently updated as each new bit of malware appears on the scene. Coupla links: http://agriroot.aua.gr/~nikant/nkvir/ http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ (just in case you need it) Only limitation is this doesn't scan *existing* data on your server for viruses, only incoming mail. That's where you want to get into something like fprot (which again Stephen wisely recommended) for scanning a system for data files that may contain viruses. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:14:05 up 18:55, 5 users, load average: 1.11, 1.19, 0.93 +++ One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state. -- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Server/Virus Protection
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 17:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of off topic, but no more so than zings and seasons so I'm going for it. My whole reason for installing Drake 10 was because my current virus protection vendor did another price hike and I decided to bail... I've pretty much decided to do clam (my mail server is qmail), but I thought the nice, intelligent people on this list could shed some light on the alternatives. To be quite frank, looking for a replacement is a pain and I haven't got the brain cells to weed through 5000 Google hits. Any recommendations? Brenda Bell Henniker (the only one on earth) New Hampshire (the state with 5 seasons: black fly, tourist, foliage, ski and mud) ... but we're not allowed to shoot the tourists :) I like kmail, tried evolution(sp) and mozilla mail but didn't care for either. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:33:41 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] disseminated the following: I'm using Sylpheed at the moment. It can be my daddy if it wants to be. A combination of Mozilla Firefox and Sylpheed are a speed demons match made in heaven. Big ditto on that one! Though, as soon as there is a _stable_ and _functional_ GTK2 version of Claws... -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 07:47:40 up 6 days, 22:18, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 ++ The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. -- Declaration of the Rights of Man Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Hi I suspect the general split will probably be between Sylpheed, Kmail, Moz Mail and Evo. mozmail for me. kmail seemed (3.1.3) a bit clunky, never seen sylpheed and evo is gnome. Cheers Anton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:05:19 +1300 anton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Hi I suspect the general split will probably be between Sylpheed, Kmail, Moz Mail and Evo. mozmail for me. kmail seemed (3.1.3) a bit clunky, never seen sylpheed and evo is gnome. Cheers Anton I know Sylpheed comes with Libranet. If you ever install that, give it a shot. Or download it, I'm sure it's on the web. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
Your tecnical question. Do you mean you log in to X as root? That is a no no and unneeded. To set up email do it as yourself. To do tasks as root use su or sudo. However if there is some strange reason you have that forces you to enter X as root then copy the .evolution or .mozilla directory to your home directory, making sure to change permissions using su or sudo. Aaron Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 08:05, anton wrote: Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Hi I suspect the general split will probably be between Sylpheed, Kmail, Moz Mail and Evo. mozmail for me. kmail seemed (3.1.3) a bit clunky, never seen sylpheed and evo is gnome. Cheers Anton I stick with Evolution (on KDE), Thunderbird is a good second. Sylpheed is excellent, but I'm a sucker for eyecandy and let's face it, Sylpheed looks like it's beaten with the ugly stick... it's fast though!! Tried Kmail but don't like it. Cheers, Marco -- They're pink and wet, they make the best kinda pet... (Frank Zappa - Baby Snakes) Registered Linux user #268279 * This message is composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:51:29 +0200 Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your tecnical question. Do you mean you log in to X as root? That is a no no and unneeded. To set up email do it as yourself. To do tasks as root use su or sudo. However if there is some strange reason you have that forces you to enter X as root then copy the .evolution or .mozilla directory to your home directory, making sure to change permissions using su or sudo. Aaron Actually, mutt is not an X client, and I run in in the CLI, but either way, it seems to depend on how good of a mood Tux is in lol. On the Mutt site it says this is a thing with permissions, but it does it sometimes, and sometimes not, it's odd. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:24 pm, many eyes viewed Allen's words:- This may be off topic, but ah well, no one is perfect. I was curious what everyone's fav mail clients were for Linux? I personally like Kmail, Ximian, Mutt, Pine, and now Sylpheed. KMail -- When crows find a dying snake, They behave as if they were eagles. When I see myself as a victim, I am hurt by trifling failures. Shantideva This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail clients
Hi I suspect the general split will probably be between Sylpheed, Kmail, Moz Mail and Evo. -- John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 ICQ: 92791912 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: vicarofwibley Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux is like a wigwam - No Gates, no Windows, Apache inside. 07:49:24 up 1 day, 22:19, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Config?
Hoyt Bailey wrote: I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in the mix. I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this. What I would like are some suggestions. What programs are best to use with spamassassin? Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin? Regards; Hoyt My personal preference is to use amavis-new... a very cool Perl daemon postfix content filter that is very fast.. you can set it up to scan for virus's, or spam, or both... I know of many ISP's using it now.. so its fast.. I've been using various versions of amavis for about 5 years now.. been very happy with it. http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ regards Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Config?
On Monday 09 Feb 2004 4:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in the mix. I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this. What I would like are some suggestions. What programs are best to use with spamassassin? Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin? Regards; Hoyt If all you want to do is provide mail for a single user (or small group of users), then all you really need do is run spamassassin as a filter in your mail client. No need for a mail server if you do not need one. The Sylpheed-claws mail client has a Spamassassin plugin (install the sylpheed-claws-spamassassin-plugin RPM) I have not used it myself, but I'm sure you could work it out. It is also quite easy to configure kmail to run spamassassin as a filter. Check out this post from the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg148384.html (You will need to install perl-Mail-Spamassassin) BTW: Charles Edwards has some lovely up to date RPMS for both Spamassassin and Sylpheed-claws at http://www.eslrahc.com/ If you have not already done so, then add him as a urpmi source. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Config?
On Monday 09 Feb 2004 4:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in the mix. I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this. What I would like are some suggestions. What programs are best to use with spamassassin? Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin? Regards; Hoyt I should have also mentioned in my last post :- If you want to go the whole hog and install a Postfix mail server with Spamassassin, procmail, fetchmail, IMAP and Clam-AV there is a HOWTO on my home page. But its quite a lot more work than just setting up kmail to use SpamAssassin. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Config?
I should also mention that with my suggestion for amavis-new/spamassassin with postfix... The contribs for mdk9.2 includes packages for amavis-new, all its dependencies, clamd and spamassassin. So using them makes it a simple rpm only setup. rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Config?
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 01:52 Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail Config? On Monday 09 Feb 2004 4:38 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in the mix. I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this. What I would like are some suggestions. What programs are best to use with spamassassin? Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin? Regards; Hoyt I should have also mentioned in my last post :- If you want to go the whole hog and install a Postfix mail server with Spamassassin, procmail, fetchmail, IMAP and Clam-AV there is a HOWTO on my home page. But its quite a lot more work than just setting up kmail to use SpamAssassin. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org If you are 'dman' I already have it. One of the things that conviced me. I'll check it out. Thanks for your input. Good to know. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Config?
- Original Message - From: frankieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 02:27 Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail Config? I should also mention that with my suggestion for amavis-new/spamassassin with postfix... The contribs for mdk9.2 includes packages for amavis-new, all its dependencies, clamd and spamassassin. So using them makes it a simple rpm only setup. rgds Franki Thanks franki this is what I wanted. I'll check it out. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mail Config?
I need to configure my mail system and I want to include spamassassin in the mix. I figure there are a number of ways to accomplish this. What I would like are some suggestions. What programs are best to use with spamassassin? Or what programs do you use witn spamassassin? Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail client for windows
Eric Huff wrote: Hi Folks, I know this has been asked before, but i can't seem to find it in the archives (too many other hits): What(free) mail client should i have my dad use in windows that would be the easiest for him to switch to from outlook express? thanks, eric Try Mozilla - then, when you move him from Windows to Mandrake, he won't even notice ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail client for windows
Why not use Mozilla for Windows? Makes later migration to Linux all the easier. Cheers Jason Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Eudora? Pegasus (Although I can't remember if you get it for free) The Bat is good also but I am sure you have to pay for it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail client for windows
What(free) mail client should i have my dad use in windows that would be the easiest for him to switch to from outlook express? Thanks all! I think i will suggest he use mozilla. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail client for windows
Jason Greenwood wrote: Why not use Mozilla for Windows? Makes later migration to Linux all the easier. Or maybe Mozilla Thunderbird, as they seem to be going to discontinue Mozilla proper at some stage in the future (in favour of the separate projects). Dad probably would prefer to have just one, and not have to migrate. That said I am not sure Thunderbird is wonderful on keeping backwards compatibility (of stored mail folders, etc) so... I may be wrong though... Anton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail client for windows
anton wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: Why not use Mozilla for Windows? Makes later migration to Linux all the easier. Or maybe Mozilla Thunderbird, as they seem to be going to discontinue Mozilla proper at some stage in the future (in favour of the separate projects). Dad probably would prefer to have just one, and not have to migrate. That said I am not sure Thunderbird is wonderful on keeping backwards compatibility (of stored mail folders, etc) so... I may be wrong though... Anton I have either converted or convinced to convert about 30 or more windows users from outlook/OE/Eudora/Pegasus to Thunderbird.. They have all been blown away by just how good it is.. I love it myself, I am writing this on a nightly build of Thunderbird 0.4+ Smart spam filtering, full configuration for everything, and great privacy tools.. its a winner already.. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail client for windows
Why not use Mozilla for Windows? Makes later migration to Linux all the easier. Or maybe Mozilla Thunderbird, as they seem to be going to discontinue Mozilla proper at some stage in the future (in favour of the separate projects). Dad probably would prefer to have just one, and not have to migrate. That said I am not sure Thunderbird is wonderful on keeping backwards compatibility (of stored mail folders, etc) so... I may be wrong though... Anton Firebird is not good about keeping folders. I don't mind: it is still experimental. Not sure dad would take to that, though... I'll check into thunderbird, though... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mail Problem
I did a fresh install of Mandrake 9.2 and have had no problems until now. I installed 'Fetchyahoo' last night, and when it asks for the spool path (usually '/var/spool/mail/username') I put that in. However it said 'path not found,' and sure enough, it's not there. I use Kmail which set up my inbox, etc path in my home directory. Is that where the spool would be? Sorry to sound so idiotic. TIA, Kat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Problem
kat, what i do with gotmail (fetches hotmail mail) is to specify a directory in my home directory (just create one) and then setup kmail with another receiving account that fetches mail from that directory, bascule On Friday 07 Nov 2003 11:09 am, kat wrote: I did a fresh install of Mandrake 9.2 and have had no problems until now. I installed 'Fetchyahoo' last night, and when it asks for the spool path (usually '/var/spool/mail/username') I put that in. However it said 'path not found,' and sure enough, it's not there. I use Kmail which set up my inbox, etc path in my home directory. Is that where the spool would be? Sorry to sound so idiotic. TIA, Kat -- He expanded his chest to make it totally clear that here was the sort of man you only dared to cross if you had a team of Sherpas with you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Problem
On Friday 07 Nov 2003 11:09 am, kat wrote: I did a fresh install of Mandrake 9.2 and have had no problems until now. I installed 'Fetchyahoo' last night, and when it asks for the spool path (usually '/var/spool/mail/username') I put that in. However it said 'path not found,' and sure enough, it's not there. I use Kmail which set up my inbox, etc path in my home directory. Is that where the spool would be? Sorry to sound so idiotic. TIA, Kat /var/spool/mail/username is where a mail server such as Postfix would put mail for that account by default. I think if you tell Fetchyahoo to put the mails directly in your KMail mail file it will work OK, but the mails will not be highlighted as 'new mail' (Try it and see) You could always tell Fetchyahoo to put the mails in /var/spool/mail/username (create the file first with 'username' as the owner), and then define a new account in Kmail to look at the 'Local Mailbox' KMailSettingsConfigureKmailNetworkReceivingAdd derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Problem
On Friday 07 November 2003 06:04 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 07 Nov 2003 11:09 am, kat wrote: I did a fresh install of Mandrake 9.2 and have had no problems until now. I installed 'Fetchyahoo' last night, and when it asks for the spool path (usually '/var/spool/mail/username') I put that in. However it said 'path not found,' and sure enough, it's not there. I use Kmail which set up my inbox, etc path in my home directory. Is that where the spool would be? Sorry to sound so idiotic. TIA, Kat /var/spool/mail/username is where a mail server such as Postfix would put mail for that account by default. I think if you tell Fetchyahoo to put the mails directly in your KMail mail file it will work OK, but the mails will not be highlighted as 'new mail' (Try it and see) You could always tell Fetchyahoo to put the mails in /var/spool/mail/username (create the file first with 'username' as the owner), and then define a new account in Kmail to look at the 'Local Mailbox' KMailSettingsConfigureKmailNetworkReceivingAdd derek Thanks, Derek, it worked. I set up a new file in the /var/spool/mail directory and configured kmail to retrieve the mail from the local mailbox. Now I can fetch mail from Yahoo without having to log in via the web. Kat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mail help: host not found
I have an errors header in my email so that i get errors from newbie posts. All of a sudden i get a bunch of hosts not found from users on the list. home.com is one (and sure enough, it is not pingable). Another example is below. Is it just a coincidence, or was there some sort of ip address cleanup recently ? thanks, eric Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:15:19 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This is the Postfix program at host smtp2.mandrakesoft.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Name service error for name=fsbbs.hemmet.chalmers.se type=A: Host not found Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail help: host not found
On 10/29/2003 05:49 PM, Eric Huff wrote: Eric, It looks like a DNS problem with your ISP. Should be fixed now since mail is coming through. Paul I have an errors header in my email so that i get errors from newbie posts. All of a sudden i get a bunch of hosts not found from users on the list. home.com is one (and sure enough, it is not pingable). Another example is below. Is it just a coincidence, or was there some sort of ip address cleanup recently ? thanks, eric -- I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet. -Mohandas K. Gandhi http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Thunderbird 0.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail help: host not found
On 10/29/2003 10:57 PM, Eric Huff wrote: It looks like a DNS problem with your ISP. Should be fixed now since mail is coming through. Paul It's not mail i send, it's mail sent from the newbie list server. I just get the error bounces. How can i check if it's a dns problem? If i whois the site, can it suffer from the same? Very strange. You mentioned you could not ping the sites, and usually that means DNS problems. But errors in mail you _receive_ ... I never heard of that. Hopefully someone else has an idea... Paul -- Often statistics are used as a drunken man uses lampposts: for support rather than illumination. http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Thunderbird 0.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail help: host not found
It's not mail i send, it's mail sent from the newbie list server. I just get the error bounces. How can i check if it's a dns problem? If i whois the site, can it suffer from the same? Very strange. You mentioned you could not ping the sites, and usually that means DNS problems. But errors in mail you _receive_ ... I never heard of that. Hopefully someone else has an idea... Maybe i explained it poorly: when the newbie listserver sends out it's batch of mail, some of the mail gets bounced because of bad addresses. Since i put an errors-to header in my email, i get the bounces. What is wierd is it seems like all of a sudden, many sites went offline... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail setup
But what packages are best to do the aforementioned tasks. I was under the impression there were quite a few choices. And where would documentation for these things be? Mike Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 09:30, Michael Lothian wrote: Sorry my question was what's the best way to do this What software? How do I configure it? Is there a guide or wizard? Thanks Mike Quite literally, everything is already exists on the machine to do this; you can use Webmin as an all in one GUI to configure it all... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail setup
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 09:30, Michael Lothian wrote: Sorry my question was what's the best way to do this What software? How do I configure it? Is there a guide or wizard? Thanks Mike Quite literally, everything is already exists on the machine to do this; you can use Webmin as an all in one GUI to configure it all... -- Mon Aug 11 10:30:00 EST 2003 10:30:00 up 7 days, 14:18, 1 user, load average: 2.38, 2.40, 2.25 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If it's working, the diagnostics say it's fine. If it's not working, the diagnostics say it's fine. - A proposed addition to rules for realtime programming Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail test rant
On Friday 08 Aug 2003 8:34 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:11:13PM -0400, Todd Slater wrote: So my ISP has decided to reject all mails originating from dynamically assigned IP blocks, which my computer is on. So, I can't send mail to my ISP-provided account from my box unless I use their smtp server. This is problemlatic since my family also uses this ISP and I can't send them mail using my preferred agent, Mutt. I've also been noticing that messages I send to newbie aren't appearing in my Mandrake folder--so perhaps even though sympa-mandrake redistributes the message, my ISP still sees that I sent it and rejects it? This is really annoying. Instead of telling people, Hey bozos, secure your machines, don't use M$ etc. the ISP's are punishing all the good people as well. This does not bode well for future Internet freedom. Is there some sort of mail relay (like a dynamic dns) I could use that would let my mail get through? (AOL also blocks mail from dynamic IPs, I believe.) I'd even be willing to pay a reasonable fee for such a service. Todd OK, how about this? In /etc/postfix/main.cf: relayhost = smtp.myisp.com Any problems/security issues with that? IOW, will I get in trouble? g Todd No thats fine. I do the same myself. It is common practice for mail servers to do reverse DNS lookups to make sure the hostname in the header matches the IP address the mail came from. Using your ISP as a relay will make sure that works. As far as your ISP is concerned it is the same as if your client connected directly to their SMTP server. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail setup
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 00:30, Michael Lothian wrote: Hi I'm not sure this is the best place for this question but here goes... I'm getting a 2MBit broadband conection and I'd like to set a linux box to be my own mail server. What's the best way to do this: Firewall, gateway, mail server (pop/imap), webserver, ftp server, irc server...wouldn't take too long to get all that set in place and have a nicely protected network on the inside... -- Mon Aug 11 07:05:01 EST 2003 07:05:01 up 7 days, 10:53, 1 user, load average: 3.21, 3.20, 3.19 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I fear explanations explanatory of things explained. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mail setup
Hi I'm not sure this is the best place for this question but here goes... I'm getting a 2MBit broadband conection and I'd like to set a linux box to be my own mail server. What's the best way to do this: My ideal setup would be imap, pop and webmail and an ftp and web server as well perhaps. Oh yes and spam assasin is an essential. Is there any setup guides for this or does Mandrake have any wizards? Oh yes my current domain is fireburn.co.uk and my new conection will have a fixed ip. Again I'm not sure about all this as I've only really used mandrake for playing music and watching dvds. Thanks again Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mail test rant
So my ISP has decided to reject all mails originating from dynamically assigned IP blocks, which my computer is on. So, I can't send mail to my ISP-provided account from my box unless I use their smtp server. This is problemlatic since my family also uses this ISP and I can't send them mail using my preferred agent, Mutt. I've also been noticing that messages I send to newbie aren't appearing in my Mandrake folder--so perhaps even though sympa-mandrake redistributes the message, my ISP still sees that I sent it and rejects it? This is really annoying. Instead of telling people, Hey bozos, secure your machines, don't use M$ etc. the ISP's are punishing all the good people as well. This does not bode well for future Internet freedom. Is there some sort of mail relay (like a dynamic dns) I could use that would let my mail get through? (AOL also blocks mail from dynamic IPs, I believe.) I'd even be willing to pay a reasonable fee for such a service. Todd -- Impeach Bush NOW! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mail list
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:58:23 -0400 Paul M. Bucalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip Thanks Paul Lee Wiggers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mail list
Hi All I've been lurking here since 8.0. I thank you all for making me comfortable if not really proficient in ML. I have a problem which I have tried to resolve with ML and my site host. ML won't answer me and my guy says it's all ML's list servers' fault. Here's the deal. I am about to lose my [EMAIL PROTECTED] because Comcast bought 'em. I have tried several times to subscribe to the lists as [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Sympa server is unable to resolve the host-name for some reason. Other lists with other servers and other general correspondence works perfectly. I know there are other ways to work around this problem. That's not what I want. I want to know why this is happening and I want ML to fix it. I'll probably be happy with the why. It burns my butt to get incessant warnings about the expiration of my Club dues and a deaf ear to my plea. Being a stubborn old fellow, I ain't givin' up a dime, sou, euro, or pence until I get an answer. I know I'm a little ripple in a big pond, but Mandrake sure has a way of shooting themselves in the foot. Sincerely Lee Wiggers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
Slypheed is a good mailer on Linux but the win32 version is not as good (unless they have improved it lately - been a while since I could be bothered to fire up my XP machine - I only keep it for gaming) John Hey!! how about sylpheed?? it has a win32 version... xxx Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Web:http://www.thewillbys.com ASCII ribbon campaign / \ MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - against HTML email \ / ICQ:92791912vCards X OS: Mandrake 9.1 [Well and truly cooked]/ \ I have dreamed a dream but now that dream has gone from me xxx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
Pine is dual-system, but I dont know if I want a text based interface. Sylpheed looks promising. Ciao Gareth Qually www.slowlymakingsmoke.com - Original Message - From: Wm. G. Urquhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows? On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Damian Gatabria wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 16:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 3:31 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 2:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. Hey!! how about sylpheed?? it has a win32 version... Damian Hi, Have you thought about using Pine. It too has a Win32 incarnation, and supports POP3, IMAP, Filters and shed loads more. http://www.washington.edu/pine -- William Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Sunday 15 Jun 2003 1:39 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:53:14 +0100 OK - I'm thick. How would a symlink put the data onto a fat32 partition, or alternatively, how could you persuade mozilla to use a symlink under your home to put the data on the fat32 partition? Anne Make a folder(or file) on a FAT32 partition for mail, and create a symlink from there to the location Mozilla is expecting to find its mail in. Mozilla will neither know nor care that that one file was on a Fat32 partition. I *will* get the hang of this - but it's taking some time g. Thanks, Derek Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Damian Gatabria wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 16:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 3:31 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 2:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. Hey!! how about sylpheed?? it has a win32 version... Damian Hi, Have you thought about using Pine. It too has a Win32 incarnation, and supports POP3, IMAP, Filters and shed loads more. http://www.washington.edu/pine -- William Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Ciao Gareth Qually www.slowlymakingsmoke.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
Thanks Greg and Derek, I was sleeping, didn't think of the two most obvious. Derek you say I should use a FAT32 partition, but my Linux partition sees my NTFS, so that should be ok right? Ciao Gareth Qually www.slowlymakingsmoke.com - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows? On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 2:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. and of course keep your mails on a FAT32 partition so both Windows and Linux clients can read them. (BTW: Opera7.11 also has a nice mail client which is Windows and Linux) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Saturday 14 June 2003 05:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: that sounds like ximian connector to me www.ximian.com I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Ciao Gareth Qually www.slowlymakingsmoke.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Saturday 14 June 2003 09:03 am, Gareth Qually wrote: Thanks Greg and Derek, I was sleeping, didn't think of the two most obvious. Derek you say I should use a FAT32 partition, but my Linux partition sees my NTFS, so that should be ok right? Since you are planning ahead, you definitely want linux writing to fat32, not ntfs. As far as i've read and heard on these lists, writing to ntfs is experimental at best. eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 3:31 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 2:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. and of course keep your mails on a FAT32 partition so both Windows and Linux clients can read them. Derek - the old netscape versions allowed you to specify where your mail was kept. I haven't seen any way of doing it with netscape6 and later or mozilla. Is it there? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 8:33 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 3:31 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 2:13 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. and of course keep your mails on a FAT32 partition so both Windows and Linux clients can read them. Derek - the old netscape versions allowed you to specify where your mail was kept. I haven't seen any way of doing it with netscape6 and later or mozilla. Is it there? Anne I have no idea since I use neither. But hasn't there been a discussion recently about the use of symlinks? derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 8:47 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 8:33 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Derek - the old netscape versions allowed you to specify where your mail was kept. I haven't seen any way of doing it with netscape6 and later or mozilla. Is it there? Anne I have no idea since I use neither. But hasn't there been a discussion recently about the use of symlinks? derek OK - I'm thick. How would a symlink put the data onto a fat32 partition, or alternatively, how could you persuade mozilla to use a symlink under your home to put the data on the fat32 partition? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
Thanks for that Eric, i will study up on that. Ciao Gareth Qually www.slowlymakingsmoke.com - Original Message - From: Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows? On Saturday 14 June 2003 09:03 am, Gareth Qually wrote: Thanks Greg and Derek, I was sleeping, didn't think of the two most obvious. Derek you say I should use a FAT32 partition, but my Linux partition sees my NTFS, so that should be ok right? Since you are planning ahead, you definitely want linux writing to fat32, not ntfs. As far as i've read and heard on these lists, writing to ntfs is experimental at best. eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:53:14 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 8:47 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 8:33 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Derek - the old netscape versions allowed you to specify where your mail was kept. I haven't seen any way of doing it with netscape6 and later or mozilla. Is it there? Anne I have no idea since I use neither. But hasn't there been a discussion recently about the use of symlinks? derek OK - I'm thick. How would a symlink put the data onto a fat32 partition, or alternatively, how could you persuade mozilla to use a symlink under your home to put the data on the fat32 partition? Anne Make a folder(or file) on a FAT32 partition for mail, and create a symlink from there to the location Mozilla is expecting to find its mail in. Mozilla will neither know nor care that that one file was on a Fat32 partition. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 22:25, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Ciao Gareth Qually That's truly pushing the limits mate. Try Netscape 7.0+ mail or Mozilla mail. -- Sun Jun 15 08:50:00 EST 2003 08:50:00 up 1 day, 16:04, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.21, 0.25 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Bender: OK, but I don't want anyone thinking we're robosexuals. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail program for Linux and windows?
Another solution I use to do the same thing is a separate Linux box that downloads and holds the mail, and serves via IMAP to any computer or OS you need to. Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2003 08:25 am, Gareth Qually wrote: I need an e-mail program that will not only work in linux and windows 2000, but also share data. The result I want to get is to be able to have the data shared across the two OS's. Anyone know of a program thatdoes this? Try something first that has both a Windows and a Linux version, like mozilla. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail server questions
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:27:23 -0500 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My isp is being absorbed by Comcast so all my email addresses are about to change again. Can someone tell me how to set up my own mail server (just an overview for a dummy) and perhaps a tutorial or 10 for starters would be deeply appreciated. Right now I'm too far in the dark to know what questions to ask, but this list does it all. TIA Lee Lee, Can you post where you seen that our email addresses are changing again? I went thru this when MediaOne was bought out by or absorbed by ATT, and wouldn't be happy if we have to do it again. Thanks Steve -- Linux user #280097 Machines #162480 #191825 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail server questions
Chris at Lockergnome mentioned it last week. It took me 6 months to recover from the MediaOne crap. Just a rumor would make me get my butt in gear. With the best of help, I'm not expecting overnight results, but when I finish I will be in charge, in a proper Linux tradition. Or something like that, anyway. Lee On Saturday 15 March 2003 03:13 pm, you wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:27:23 -0500 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My isp is being absorbed by Comcast so all my email addresses are about to change again. Can someone tell me how to set up my own mail server (just an overview for a dummy) and perhaps a tutorial or 10 for starters would be deeply appreciated. Right now I'm too far in the dark to know what questions to ask, but this list does it all. TIA Lee Lee, Can you post where you seen that our email addresses are changing again? I went thru this when MediaOne was bought out by or absorbed by ATT, and wouldn't be happy if we have to do it again. Thanks Steve -- Registered Linux user #223705 Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail server questions
On Saturday 15 Mar 2003 11:58 pm, Carter Harris wrote: With Comcast you are going to have a big-time problem if your Comcast is like mine. In my area, Comcast won't ... will not give you a static IP address. You could get around that with a dynamic DNS service but they (Comcast) also monitors and if you are running a server they will shut you down. It violates their agreement. Good luck. Sounds like you need mail redirection from your own domain name to the mail account on your ISP. That will not break TCs (IIUC), and you keep the same email address no matter what the ISP does to your direct address. The domain mail is sent to the company that you register with and they redirect it to any email address that you set up. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail server questions
Carter Harris wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mail server questions On Saturday 15 Mar 2003 7:27 pm, Lee wrote: My isp is being absorbed by Comcast so all my email addresses are about to change again. Can someone tell me how to set up my own mail server (just an overview for a dummy) and perhaps a tutorial or 10 for starters would be deeply appreciated. Right now I'm too far in the dark to know what questions to ask, but this list does it all. TIA Lee With Comcast you are going to have a big-time problem if your Comcast is like mine. In my area, Comcast won't ... will not give you a static IP address. You could get around that with a dynamic DNS service but they (Comcast) also monitors and if you are running a server they will shut you down. It violates their agreement. Good luck. Ugh, I'm having flashbacks. I dumped Comcast for DSL as soon as I could. Two main reasons: (1) they wouldn't let me run servers and they officially wouldn't let me run VPN to my work, and (2) they boosted my rates 20% without telling me, which I learned they were entitled to do since Internet access is unregulated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?) On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:08 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:08 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:15, et wrote: mutt, elm, pine, (what happens if you type mail without the quotes?) No mail for adolfobello -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote: Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start. I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected. I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and I decided to reinstall Mandrake. I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start. Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-) -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:40 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote: Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start. I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected. I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and I decided to reinstall Mandrake. I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start. Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-) A couple of shots in the dark, but maybe they will help. I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; nVidia graphics? When you boot to runlevel 3 and try and start XFree with startx, what error messages do you get? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote: I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; XFS started Ok. nVidia graphics? Yup When you boot to runlevel 3 and try and start XFree with startx, what error messages do you get? I didn't write it down but I am sure was nothing related to /tmp being full or so I guess. It said something like X being unable to find a terminal. In about half an hour I'll be reinstalling the new kernel again. I hope nothing goes wrong, but if it does i will take detailed notes of error messages. Thanks a lot for your concern. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:35 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:14, Greg Meyer wrote: I have had X fail to start when the partition that had /tmp on it was full. This prevented xfs (font server) from starting; XFS started Ok. nVidia graphics? Yup This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:44, Greg Meyer wrote: This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? nv(free). Do I need to recompile this one? -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:03, Mark wrote: when you compiled this kernel did you make a boot disk for it and test it before installing the kernel? this would greatly alleviate all the troublesome having to reload not to mention having X breaking on you. In the seven years I've been using Linux I've never attempted to install a kernel without first testing it with a boot disk. save the the first time. ;) No, I didn't. Timing is more than right for this advise. In a few minutes I will be installing the new kernel. Thanks a lot. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:58 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 14:44, Greg Meyer wrote: This may seem rather obvious, but which driver are you using nv(free) or nvidia(proprietary)? If nvidia, did you recompile the kernel module after installing the new kernel? nv(free). Do I need to recompile this one? Not if you included it in your kernel config -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Saturday 08 February 2003 11:08 am, Adolfo Bello wrote: Today I couldn't start X after upgrading the kernel and the only way that I had to get to this list was booting XP (Outlook frozen up 4 times in less than 1.5 hours, so I needed to reboot 4 times to get working back). Solution: I reinstalled Mandrake (and I am recompiling the kernel again). However, just in case I can not get X started, is there any nice MUA for the CLI? TIA Pine, Mutt.. mutt is my fav cli mail client -- Chuck Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mail Client for the CLI
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:16, CyberCFO wrote: Why are you recompiling the kernel to get X started? Last night I tried to upgrade to new kernel 2.4.19-24, and around 1:30 am (EST), when everything was finished and I rebooted, I couldn't get X started. The system went into runlevel 5 three times but X didn't start. I tried then to rollback to the previous version, but I should have done something wrong because X didn't start and I got a 2.4.19-24 welcome message instead of the 2.4.19-16 I expected. I waited until today for any help, but Outlook was driving me crazy and I decided to reinstall Mandrake. I am upgrading again and turning ACPI support on which I need for my laptop and just to see if I can get any sound out of this machine. And of course, because I need to find out why X didn't start. Praying that I don't have to reinstall again :-) when you compiled this kernel did you make a boot disk for it and test it before installing the kernel? this would greatly alleviate all the troublesome having to reload not to mention having X breaking on you. In the seven years I've been using Linux I've never attempted to install a kernel without first testing it with a boot disk. save the the first time. ;) -- Mark If necessity is the mother of invention, then who's the father? --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
