[newbie] Rpms for sylpheed-claws-0.9.12
Mdk 10.0 rpms for sylpheed-claws-0.9.12 are now available from my site Note plugins now reside in _libdir/sylpheed-claws What this means is that if you use any of the external src plugin rpms, i.e. fetchinfo, etpan, maildir etc, then these plugins will need to be re-added in Configuration once you have launched sylpheed-claws-0.9.12 Charles -- If you have a procedure with 10 parameters, you probably missed some. -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise -- pgp1wFH4UzfyI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3
Aren't those just from the three different discs? Stephen Reynolds wrote: I've found a local mirror that's working and want to add the appropriate rpms directories using urpmi. What is the difference between the RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3 directories? Careless use of urpmi has already upgraded my installations to 10.1 Cooker, which is not what I wanted. So I am a little more cautious with uprmi now. As an aside, my 10.1 Cooker machines are very stable :-) SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 09:20, Stephen Reynolds wrote: I've found a local mirror that's working and want to add the appropriate rpms directories using urpmi. What is the difference between the RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3 directories? RPMS is the main rpm repository for the distribution. This is where all the official, initially released packages are. RPMS2 is a symbolic link to 'contrib' and RPMS3 is a symbolic link to 'jpackage'. They are far from essential. If you have installed them separately or don't want them then it's safe to ignore them. If you're using plf you probably do want contrib, tho. A. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3
I dealt with this just last night. They are the different directiories on the different discs that contain the RPM's. I just wanted to thank everyone on this list, both those that ask and answer. Very very helpful to this newbie. --- Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't those just from the three different discs? Stephen Reynolds wrote: I've found a local mirror that's working and want to add the appropriate rpms directories using urpmi. What is the difference between the RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3 directories? Careless use of urpmi has already upgraded my installations to 10.1 Cooker, which is not what I wanted. So I am a little more cautious with uprmi now. As an aside, my 10.1 Cooker machines are very stable :-) SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:56 am, Andrew Archibald wrote: using plf you probably do want contrib, tho. Thanks for the explanation, but what is plf? SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3
I've found a local mirror that's working and want to add the appropriate rpms directories using urpmi. What is the difference between the RPMS, RPMS2 RPMS3 directories? Careless use of urpmi has already upgraded my installations to 10.1 Cooker, which is not what I wanted. So I am a little more cautious with uprmi now. As an aside, my 10.1 Cooker machines are very stable :-) SR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] RPMS
Hello All, I've just to reinstall(after a fall out with some Nvidia Drivers).The problem I'm having is,when aclick on a RPM that I have download from the net,I get the open with box come up.If I set the install up thought Mandrake Control Centre,it worksish(I have to have the program name in there),but if I need to install any RPM which is needed by the program I'm installing,it does not work ie dependences Thank you for any help given. Drew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMS
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:56:48 +0100 drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hello All, I've just to reinstall(after a fall out with some Nvidia Drivers).The problem I'm having is,when aclick on a RPM that I have download from the net,I get the open with box come up.If I set the install up thought Mandrake Control Centre,it worksish(I have to have the program name in there),but if I need to install any RPM which is needed by the program I'm installing,it does not work ie dependences Thank you for any help given. urpmi is your friend! 1. Go here and configure all your souces: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php 2. then as root, urpmi [program you want to install] saves you searching the net for packages you want or need, and resolves dependancies automatically. at the console, type 'man urpmi' for much, much more info! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 ++ Waste not fresh tears over old griefs. -- Euripides Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM. thanks c Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM. If you are talking about installing from source rather than RPM, then there is very little chance that you will damage your system. One way to make sure this does not happen is to compile the source package and run it from there, that way it cannot affect any of the / file system. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM. I would rather guess that you will enhance the system by compiling as much as possible compared to using rpm's /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM. If you are talking about installing from source rather than RPM, then there is very little chance that you will damage your system. One way to make sure this does not happen is to compile the source package and run it from there, that way it cannot affect any of the / file system. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Installing from source huh? I've got another topic to read up on :) Thanks again BTW I wonder why my inbox is getting replies to my question before it gets my question?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:08:37 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I wonder why my inbox is getting replies to my question before it gets my question?? i pop my server every 3 minutes for mail. i'm nuts. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:24:10 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: So if I understand, tar, bzip, etc. require compiling and RPMs are already compiled Is there a tutorial or link to explain all aspects of compiling to a noob like me? Most source packages will come with, ahem, detailed instructions (README or INSTALL). 9 times out of 10 the instructions are: unpack archive cd into new dir ./configure make this assumes you have all development tools installed like gcc and so on. and did I read something about making an RPM out of some other format? yes, SRPMs can be compiled with rpm --rebuild *.srpm, again, you need to have the development tools installed though. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:01:20 +0200 Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM. I would rather guess that you will enhance the system by compiling as much as possible compared to using rpm's /Anders So if I understand, tar, bzip, etc. require compiling and RPMs are already compiled and did I read something about making an RPM out of some other format? Is there a tutorial or link to explain all aspects of compiling to a noob like me? c Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Sectionsop=viewarticleartid=10 Juyst what I was looking for Derek Muchgrass! c Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:29:10 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most source packages will come with, ahem, detailed instructions (README or INSTALL). 9 times out of 10 the instructions are: unpack archive cd into new dir ./configure make this assumes you have all development tools installed like gcc and so on. and did I read something about making an RPM out of some other format? yes, SRPMs can be compiled with rpm --rebuild *.srpm, again, you need to have the development tools installed though. I knew those dev tools would come in handy! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs, targz, bzip...
On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 2:24 pm, C. Tresenriter wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:01:20 +0200 Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:55:07 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:20:59 -0500 C. Tresenriter [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What kinds of problems might I encounter mixing anything with RPMs on my 9.1 install? I found a compression format for audio yesterday that I want to use - .shn - but the program isn't made in an RPM. I would rather guess that you will enhance the system by compiling as much as possible compared to using rpm's /Anders So if I understand, tar, bzip, etc. require compiling and RPMs are already compiled and did I read something about making an RPM out of some other format? Is there a tutorial or link to explain all aspects of compiling to a noob like me? c http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Sectionsop=viewarticleartid=10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms descriptions
Yo lo he intentado y funcionan mejor las fuentes francesas. Olvídate de Rediris. James Beam --- Pilagá [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Sáb 07 Dic 2002 13:04, Tom Brinkman escribió: On Saturday December 7 2002 07:37 am, Pilagá wrote: Buenas: In MCC, Software manager, I have added this source: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPM S ./synthesis.hdlist2.cz but all rpms are listed without description. So, is there any way to fix this? Gracias synthesis.hdlist.cz is without descriptions hdlist.cz is with descriptions The hdlist will be a very large file compared to the synthesis version. You might decide to do without descriptions ;) It's academic anyhow, at that ftp site there is no hdlist, only synthesis. Muchas gracias, Tom. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 6:31pm up 15 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] rpms descriptions
Buenas: In MCC, Software manager, I have added this source: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS ./synthesis.hdlist2.cz but all rpms are listed without description. So, is there any way to fix this? Gracias -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 10:31am up 1:58, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms descriptions
On Saturday December 7 2002 07:37 am, Pilagá wrote: Buenas: In MCC, Software manager, I have added this source: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPM S ./synthesis.hdlist2.cz but all rpms are listed without description. So, is there any way to fix this? Gracias synthesis.hdlist.cz is without descriptions hdlist.cz is with descriptions The hdlist will be a very large file compared to the synthesis version. You might decide to do without descriptions ;) It's academic anyhow, at that ftp site there is no hdlist, only synthesis. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms descriptions
El Sáb 07 Dic 2002 13:04, Tom Brinkman escribió: On Saturday December 7 2002 07:37 am, Pilagá wrote: Buenas: In MCC, Software manager, I have added this source: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPM S ./synthesis.hdlist2.cz but all rpms are listed without description. So, is there any way to fix this? Gracias synthesis.hdlist.cz is without descriptions hdlist.cz is with descriptions The hdlist will be a very large file compared to the synthesis version. You might decide to do without descriptions ;) It's academic anyhow, at that ftp site there is no hdlist, only synthesis. Muchas gracias, Tom. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 6:31pm up 15 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2
Welcome to Linux! Open the Mandrake Software Manager (should be on your start menu at Configuration | Packaging | Software Manager). Here you will have a complete list of all RPMs on all three CDs with a description of what they do, what files they contain, where on your hard disk they have been or would be installed, and more. You also can install and uninstall any RPM with the Software Manager. As you get to know Linux, the Software Manager will become one of your most used tools. It's far more powerful and useful than those unenlightening install.exe's you've used in Windows. Warren On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 04:31, FARSHAD wrote: hello i'm using from mdk 8.2 , in CD 3 there are very RPM files , if everybody have a full list of this PRMs with details for each file , please send for me ... i want know what's name apps (RPM) in CD 3 mdk 8.2 and i want know each app what do they do ? thanks alot bye Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2
hello i'm using from mdk 8.2 , in CD 3 there are very RPM files , if everybody have a full list of this PRMs with details for each file , please send for me ... i want know what's name apps (RPM) in CD 3 mdk 8.2 and i want know each app what dothey do ? thanks alot bye
Re: [newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2
in the future, I'll disregard this kind of questions LOL but, why dont you mount the CDROM, look up all the packages on Google. Regards,Vasiliy BoulytchevColorado Information Technologies Inc. - Original Message - From: FARSHAD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:31 AM Subject: [newbie] RPMs in CD 3 MDK 8.2 hello i'm using from mdk 8.2 , in CD 3 there are very RPM files , if everybody have a full list of this PRMs with details for each file , please send for me ... i want know what's name apps (RPM) in CD 3 mdk 8.2 and i want know each app what dothey do ? thanks alot bye
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
Ralph, I am having a problem with the dictionary. The spell checker flags all words in the document as wrong, which suggests that it does not have a valid dictionary. I checked the Tools-options-OpenOffice.org-Paths and the entry for Dictionary has the path /usr/share/OpenOffice.org641/share/wordbook/english. That directory has the following listing: ls -la /usr/share/OpenOffice.org641/share/wordbook/english/ total 3740 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Mar 9 18:34 . drwxrwxr-x3 root root 4096 Mar 9 18:32 .. -rw-r--r--1 root root 786 Dec 20 06:00 soffice.dic -rw-r--r--1 root root 666 Dec 20 06:00 sun.dic -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 3284160 Dec 20 06:00 th_en_US.dat -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 517205 Dec 20 06:00 th_en_US.idx Those are not much of a dictionary, no wonder it flags all words. Can I use the ispell dictionary? I have the following: ls -l /usr/lib/ispell/ total 4068 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 Oct 8 04:07 american.hash - americanmed+.hash -rw-r--r--1 root root 985536 Jun 28 2001 americanmed+.hash lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Oct 8 04:07 british.hash - britishmed+.hash -rw-r--r--1 root root 998400 Jun 28 2001 britishmed+.hash -rw-r--r--1 root root 2156688 Jun 28 2001 britishxlg.hash -rw-r--r--1 root root 5733 Jun 28 2001 english.aff lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 17 Oct 8 04:07 english.hash - americanmed+.hash The format is not the same as those that came with Open Office. Ispell is binary. Are you using a dictionary? Thanks, Seedkum On Saturday 09 March 2002 05:45 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: OK, You downloaded and unpacked the tar.gz file... there should be several files in the unzipped folder, or not? Well, there is a setup file... sorry, not install... my appologies. Try a ./setup /net and the rest should be pretty straight forward. I canot remember if the /net funtion is well documented, but it exists from StarOffice, and it still used in the OopenOffice.org. You will have to install this as root. One thing I must add... I had a big problem in the beginning where I could not read the install screen. I found out that this had to do with Abiword (some arial font that was contained in it), and uninstalling it first fixed everything :-) Ok, once installed, let's say in /usr/share/openoffice.org641 (I have no idea what 4.1 version you are referring to?), as a normal user type /usr/share/openoffice.org641/setup and it should install several files into your home directory. There are needed for your personal settings. In the folder created there are shortcuts to openoffice and so on. I think the rest is pretty straight forward. The version I use is : http://sf1.mirror.openoffice.org/641c/install641C_linux_intel.tar.gz but others should work too. Greetings Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: | Ralph, | | You mentioned: | | Do an ./install /net if you want to use it for several users and don't | want to install a separate version in each users $HONE. | | I looked at the install man pages and there was no mention of the /net | switch. The man page said it was a file copy utility, all be it a more | sophisticated one. The one I have is version 4.1. What is this install | program you have in mind? | | I did the down load, the unzip, the untar and I am ready for the next step. | Thanx, | | Seedkum | | On Saturday 09 March 2002 03:51 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: |Well, no, but you can always just delete the folder where it is |installed :-) In my case /usr/share/openoffice ... the shortcuts where |it is installed will be added to your local install directory (for each |user about 3 MB's in their $HOME somewhere...). There are no other |shortcuts or files installed anywhere else. | |Hope this helps, | |Ralph | |Seedkum Aladeem wrote: || Does it also come with an uninstall utility? || || Thanks, || || Seedkum | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FREE AT LAST Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
The 4.1 is the version of the install utility that was already in my machine. I have installed openoffice the way you coached me. Openoffice seems intuitive. I had no problems with the fonts during the install. However, the spell checker is acting funny. It stops at every word irrespective if it is wrong or not! It appears that I am on my way to being FREE from Bill Gates AT LAST. FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST Seedkum On Saturday 09 March 2002 05:45 PM, Ralph Slooten wrote: OK, You downloaded and unpacked the tar.gz file... there should be several files in the unzipped folder, or not? Well, there is a setup file... sorry, not install... my appologies. Try a ./setup /net and the rest should be pretty straight forward. I canot remember if the /net funtion is well documented, but it exists from StarOffice, and it still used in the OopenOffice.org. You will have to install this as root. One thing I must add... I had a big problem in the beginning where I could not read the install screen. I found out that this had to do with Abiword (some arial font that was contained in it), and uninstalling it first fixed everything :-) Ok, once installed, let's say in /usr/share/openoffice.org641 (I have no idea what 4.1 version you are referring to?), as a normal user type /usr/share/openoffice.org641/setup and it should install several files into your home directory. There are needed for your personal settings. In the folder created there are shortcuts to openoffice and so on. I think the rest is pretty straight forward. The version I use is : http://sf1.mirror.openoffice.org/641c/install641C_linux_intel.tar.gz but others should work too. Greetings Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: | Ralph, | | You mentioned: | | Do an ./install /net if you want to use it for several users and don't | want to install a separate version in each users $HONE. | | I looked at the install man pages and there was no mention of the /net | switch. The man page said it was a file copy utility, all be it a more | sophisticated one. The one I have is version 4.1. What is this install | program you have in mind? | | I did the down load, the unzip, the untar and I am ready for the next step. | Thanx, | | Seedkum | | On Saturday 09 March 2002 03:51 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: |Well, no, but you can always just delete the folder where it is |installed :-) In my case /usr/share/openoffice ... the shortcuts where |it is installed will be added to your local install directory (for each |user about 3 MB's in their $HOME somewhere...). There are no other |shortcuts or files installed anywhere else. | |Hope this helps, | |Ralph | |Seedkum Aladeem wrote: || Does it also come with an uninstall utility? || || Thanks, || || Seedkum | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
Ok, I found it and tried it but it does not work here i has been made woth a cooker version of Mandrake, and it's libs and stuff are all advanced. If all goes well, you can probably use the RPM with Mandrake 8.2 ... But I won't promise that :-) I suggest to download the latest binary from openoffice.org, and manually install that. It works at least :-) Do an ./install /net if you want to use it for several users and don't want to install a separate version in each users $HONE. The results below is exactly what I got too, except for the libstdc++3.0. Yeah, it sucks... just keep the rpm and who knows :-) Greetings Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: Ralph, I used the www.rpmfind.net site to search for openoffice. The site kept timing out today. I do not have the URL unfortunately. There was only one site with the i586 rpm out of a total of 4 sites. I do not know what kind of directroy the rpm came from (contrib or not). I just clicked on the file name not knowing where it resided. I followed your advice today and told the KDE Software Manager to search the LM 8.1 CD ISO files too. I got the following error messages this time: rpm -U --replacepkgs /home/rpmdir/openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk.i586.rpm;echo RESULT=$? error: failed dependencies: lpddaemon is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libstdc++3.0 = 3.0.4-1mdk is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libstdc++.so.3 is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk RESULT=1 Will the rpm package manager be able to keep track of Open Office the way it is able to keep track of rpm packages if I use this tarball thing you have used? I think Open Office needs Java for the help menus. Do you have help menus? Thanks, Seedkum On Friday 08 March 2002 01:01 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: Umm, where did you download the rpm's from? I have looked before, but didn't have much luck... What I did was just to download and install the tarball (binary file) from openoffice.org... works fine here, although I think it's built for an i386 and I run an i686 .. so I guess an i586 build probablty would speed up things. What version of Mandrake are you running? If 8.1, gcc3 and others are on the install cd's. ~ What I think you did was to download a file from a contrib ftp directory or not? Well, please give me the URL you used, and I will try it here... and let you know About the j2re and kafee... well, I can't help... I don't like java, and it does not like me. Never got it working here with openoffice.org either :-) Does not matter, it works without. Neither do I know the answer to the unicode Q... sorry about that :-) For what it's worth.. I hope this helps Greetings Ralph [deleted] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, no, but you can always just delete the folder where it is installed :-) In my case /usr/share/openoffice ... the shortcuts where it is installed will be added to your local install directory (for each user about 3 MB's in their $HOME somewhere...). There are no other shortcuts or files installed anywhere else. Hope this helps, Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: | Does it also come with an uninstall utility? | | Thanks, | | Seedkum - -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8ip/4Fe3pHw9jp3oRAj5WAJ0TxrGViwPoC0Q15KObCYdRJqz/5ACfeA2w w8yZamwTuPQARvKP8SaBaWo= =d8Kl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
Ralph, You mentioned: Do an ./install /net if you want to use it for several users and don't want to install a separate version in each users $HONE. I looked at the install man pages and there was no mention of the /net switch. The man page said it was a file copy utility, all be it a more sophisticated one. The one I have is version 4.1. What is this install program you have in mind? I did the down load, the unzip, the untar and I am ready for the next step. Thanx, Seedkum On Saturday 09 March 2002 03:51 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: Well, no, but you can always just delete the folder where it is installed :-) In my case /usr/share/openoffice ... the shortcuts where it is installed will be added to your local install directory (for each user about 3 MB's in their $HOME somewhere...). There are no other shortcuts or files installed anywhere else. Hope this helps, Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: | Does it also come with an uninstall utility? | | Thanks, | | Seedkum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, You downloaded and unpacked the tar.gz file... there should be several files in the unzipped folder, or not? Well, there is a setup file... sorry, not install... my appologies. Try a ./setup /net and the rest should be pretty straight forward. I canot remember if the /net funtion is well documented, but it exists from StarOffice, and it still used in the OopenOffice.org. You will have to install this as root. One thing I must add... I had a big problem in the beginning where I could not read the install screen. I found out that this had to do with Abiword (some arial font that was contained in it), and uninstalling it first fixed everything :-) Ok, once installed, let's say in /usr/share/openoffice.org641 (I have no idea what 4.1 version you are referring to?), as a normal user type /usr/share/openoffice.org641/setup and it should install several files into your home directory. There are needed for your personal settings. In the folder created there are shortcuts to openoffice and so on. I think the rest is pretty straight forward. The version I use is : http://sf1.mirror.openoffice.org/641c/install641C_linux_intel.tar.gz but others should work too. Greetings Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: | Ralph, | | You mentioned: | | Do an ./install /net if you want to use it for several users and don't | want to install a separate version in each users $HONE. | | I looked at the install man pages and there was no mention of the /net | switch. The man page said it was a file copy utility, all be it a more | sophisticated one. The one I have is version 4.1. What is this install | program you have in mind? | | I did the down load, the unzip, the untar and I am ready for the next step. | | Thanx, | | Seedkum | | On Saturday 09 March 2002 03:51 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: | |Well, no, but you can always just delete the folder where it is |installed :-) In my case /usr/share/openoffice ... the shortcuts where |it is installed will be added to your local install directory (for each |user about 3 MB's in their $HOME somewhere...). There are no other |shortcuts or files installed anywhere else. | |Hope this helps, | |Ralph | |Seedkum Aladeem wrote: || Does it also come with an uninstall utility? || || Thanks, || || Seedkum | | | | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com | - -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8irqlFe3pHw9jp3oRAnMyAJ4hZO2xvVtit/vhxqDWNleRMXnk1gCZAWgM kdxDwfN8YjHY2Q5+C3kV7o0= =+80k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
I down-loaded the openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk rpm and got the following messages when I tried to install it on Mandrake 8.1 using the Package Manager in KDE: rpm -U --replacepkgs /home/rpmdir/openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk.i586.rpm;echo RESULT=$? error: failed dependencies: lpddaemon is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libstdc++3.0 = 3.0.4-1mdk is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libstdc++.so.3 is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk RESULT=1 I do not have a clue as to where to get these rpm packages. I tried www.rpmfind.net and a few of the ftp sites shown on the Mandrake web site without success. Can somebody please give me a hint? By the way, because OpenOffice uses Java 2 run time environment, I uninstalled kaffe and installed the j2re from the SUN web site. I hope this is not a dumb move. Does OpenOffice support unicode and right to left languages. I hope it does. Any help would be much appreciated. Seedkum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Umm, where did you download the rpm's from? I have looked before, but didn't have much luck... What I did was just to download and install the tarball (binary file) from openoffice.org... works fine here, although I think it's built for an i386 and I run an i686 .. so I guess an i586 build probablty would speed up things. What version of Mandrake are you running? If 8.1, gcc3 and others are on the install cd's. ~ What I think you did was to download a file from a contrib ftp directory or not? Well, please give me the URL you used, and I will try it here... and let you know About the j2re and kafee... well, I can't help... I don't like java, and it does not like me. Never got it working here with openoffice.org either :-) Does not matter, it works without. Neither do I know the answer to the unicode Q... sorry about that :-) For what it's worth.. I hope this helps Greetings Ralph Seedkum Aladeem wrote: | I down-loaded the openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk rpm and got the following messages | when I tried to install it on Mandrake 8.1 using the Package Manager in KDE: | | rpm -U --replacepkgs /home/rpmdir/openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk.i586.rpm;echo | RESULT=$? | error: failed dependencies: | lpddaemon is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk | libstdc++3.0 = 3.0.4-1mdk is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk | libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk | libstdc++.so.3 is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk | libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk | RESULT=1 | | I do not have a clue as to where to get these rpm packages. I tried | www.rpmfind.net and a few of the ftp sites shown on the Mandrake web site | without success. Can somebody please give me a hint? | | By the way, because OpenOffice uses Java 2 run time environment, I | uninstalled kaffe and installed the j2re from the SUN web site. I hope this | is not a dumb move. | | Does OpenOffice support unicode and right to left languages. I hope it does. | | Any help would be much appreciated. | | Seedkum - -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8iSaiFe3pHw9jp3oRAgJHAJ9UhU3Sv3XGQlSpqw8HuzAOjfyWjwCeNf8N rguR4mm2/nbwWn0BrkU6yb8= =LEfV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpms and OpenOffice.
Ralph, I used the www.rpmfind.net site to search for openoffice. The site kept timing out today. I do not have the URL unfortunately. There was only one site with the i586 rpm out of a total of 4 sites. I do not know what kind of directroy the rpm came from (contrib or not). I just clicked on the file name not knowing where it resided. I followed your advice today and told the KDE Software Manager to search the LM 8.1 CD ISO files too. I got the following error messages this time: rpm -U --replacepkgs /home/rpmdir/openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk.i586.rpm;echo RESULT=$? error: failed dependencies: lpddaemon is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libstdc++3.0 = 3.0.4-1mdk is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk libstdc++.so.3 is needed by openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk RESULT=1 Will the rpm package manager be able to keep track of Open Office the way it is able to keep track of rpm packages if I use this tarball thing you have used? I think Open Office needs Java for the help menus. Do you have help menus? Thanks, Seedkum On Friday 08 March 2002 01:01 pm, Ralph Slooten wrote: Umm, where did you download the rpm's from? I have looked before, but didn't have much luck... What I did was just to download and install the tarball (binary file) from openoffice.org... works fine here, although I think it's built for an i386 and I run an i686 .. so I guess an i586 build probablty would speed up things. What version of Mandrake are you running? If 8.1, gcc3 and others are on the install cd's. ~ What I think you did was to download a file from a contrib ftp directory or not? Well, please give me the URL you used, and I will try it here... and let you know About the j2re and kafee... well, I can't help... I don't like java, and it does not like me. Never got it working here with openoffice.org either :-) Does not matter, it works without. Neither do I know the answer to the unicode Q... sorry about that :-) For what it's worth.. I hope this helps Greetings Ralph [deleted] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RPMs won't download from Web/FTP
I've already posted this problem as a continuation of another subject, but thought I'd ask it directly. I am having a lot of difficulties installing gz packages because of neveerending dependencies. I have tried this route instead of getting RPMs because I can't! RPMs that I find on the CDs install fine, but when I select an RPM from the Net and then provide the location for the download, the next thing I get is a progress screen showing about 15 seconds elapsed and then nothing--the download screen either clears or it simply sits there doing nothing. The computer and the connection are OK, it's not frozen. I've looked for any trace of the files having in fact been downloaded, but there is none. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RPMS - tarballs --- Can it be done ?
IIRC (haven't tried it in a while), if you try to install a .src.rpm file as if it were a binary .rpm (rpm -ivh file.rpm), it will extract to the directories under /usr/src/RPM. On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:18, Michel Clasquin wrote: Is it possible to somehow strip an RPM of the deps info etc and make a tarball from it? I have no immediate need to do this but it might be handy to know how to do it should the need arise. I'm sure someone will come up with a better idea, but Midnight Commander (just type mc in a console) will dig into rpm files as if they were directories. You could use it to copy the contents elsewhere, then make the tarball from there. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] RPMS - tarballs --- Can it be done ?
Is it possible to somehow strip an RPM of the deps info etc and make a tarball from it? I have no immediate need to do this but it might be handy to know how to do it should the need arise. TIA Rob
[newbie] RPMs
Can anyone tell me how to install rpms that I have downloaded, this is the first time I actually install one so any help will be appreciated Thanx! Julio -- Life gets boring when your computer is working good and there's nothing else to troubleshoot .
Re: [newbie] RPMs
At 12:32 04.02.2001 -1000, you wrote: Can anyone tell me how to install rpms that I have downloaded, this is the first time I actually install one so any help will be appreciated Thanx! Julio either use "kpackage" (to have a gui) by typing "kpackage" at a console in X, or install them by command line with the command : rpm -ivh file "man rpm" will provide u with much more information on the different options for installing rpms... --quay -- Life gets boring when your computer is working good and there's nothing else to troubleshoot .
Re: [newbie] RPMs
To install and RPM, the easiest way is to open a terminal window and, at the command prompt, type "su" followed by your root password. You need to be the root user in order to install software on your system. Then, in the directory containing the downloaded RPM, type: rpm -ivh [RPM_filename] This tells the program RPM to install and verify the file, and to display hash marks as a sort of progress indicator. (Actually -i on its own would be sufficient.) If you're in doubt about what you're doing, you might want to try: rpm -ivh [RPM_filename} --test This will do a "dry run" and tell you whether you're likely to run into any problems. Remember after you've installed your RPM to type "exit" so that you return to the normal user. You don't want to stay logged in as root any longer than necessary. There's a lot more you can do with RPM. See "man rpm" for details. Cheers. M. On Sunday 04 February 2001 14:32, Julio Gutierrez wrote: Can anyone tell me how to install rpms that I have downloaded, this is the first time I actually install one so any help will be appreciated Thanx! Julio -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
[newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
I have been having problems with install RPMs where it seems the install is abending and hogging memory on my machine. I've recently tried installing the KDE2 rpm's on my machine. If I do it from a console, I eventually get a message 'can't load interpreter' scrolling down the screen, and the rpm install just stops. I have to force a shutdown, which is scary. This happens with other rpm's as well. If I install from kpackage, I get the same thing. X-windows crashes back to the console with the message, 'can't load interpreter'. It appears, by watching xosview, that all my physical and swap memory gets full. Am I missing a switch here to install these things properly? Thanks. Harry -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
RE: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
Try rebuilding the RPM database... -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:23 AM |To: Mandrake Newbie List |Subject: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief | | |I have been having problems with install RPMs where it seems the install |is abending and hogging memory on my machine. I've recently tried |installing the KDE2 rpm's on my machine. If I do it from a console, I |eventually get a message 'can't load interpreter' scrolling down the |screen, and the rpm install just stops. I have to force a shutdown, |which is scary. This happens with other rpm's as well. | |If I install from kpackage, I get the same thing. X-windows crashes |back to the console with the message, 'can't load interpreter'. It |appears, by watching xosview, that all my physical and swap memory gets |full. | |Am I missing a switch here to install these things properly? | |Thanks. | |Harry | |-- |___ |Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 |http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman |ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769 |
Re: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
from where, and in what order were you attempting to install them??... frank On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: I have been having problems with install RPMs where it seems the install is abending and hogging memory on my machine. I've recently tried installing the KDE2 rpm's on my machine. If I do it from a console, I eventually get a message 'can't load interpreter' scrolling down the screen, and the rpm install just stops. I have to force a shutdown, which is scary. This happens with other rpm's as well. If I install from kpackage, I get the same thing. X-windows crashes back to the console with the message, 'can't load interpreter'. It appears, by watching xosview, that all my physical and swap memory gets full. Am I missing a switch here to install these things properly? Thanks. Harry
Re: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
I installed them in the order that was recommended..qt, kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase, then no specific order for the rest. Can't get even QT installed, it abends. Harry frank wrote: from where, and in what order were you attempting to install them??... frank On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: I have been having problems with install RPMs where it seems the install is abending and hogging memory on my machine. I've recently tried installing the KDE2 rpm's on my machine. If I do it from a console, I eventually get a message 'can't load interpreter' scrolling down the screen, and the rpm install just stops. I have to force a shutdown, which is scary. This happens with other rpm's as well. If I install from kpackage, I get the same thing. X-windows crashes back to the console with the message, 'can't load interpreter'. It appears, by watching xosview, that all my physical and swap memory gets full. Am I missing a switch here to install these things properly? Thanks. Harry -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
Re: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
Jose, thanks for the info. I did it and it solved the problem. This should have been a 'man rpm' solution. Sorry. Harry "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: rpm --rebuilddb -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:43 AM -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
RE: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief
You're welcome. Please post your results to the list. Others will learn from this and the info gets archived into searchable databases. Cheers! -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:51 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Newbie List |Subject: Re: [newbie] RPMs Causing Grief | | |Jose, thanks for the info. I did it and it solved the problem. This |should have been a 'man rpm' solution. Sorry. | |Harry | | |"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: | | rpm --rebuilddb | | -JMS | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Flaxman | |Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 7:43 AM | |-- |___ |Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 |http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman |ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
[newbie] RPMS and the command line
just wondering how you can run rpms from the command line or can x 4.0 be run from kpackage? GET THE BEST FREE INTERNET ACCESS * Free Email * Free Support * Software* * No Credit Check * Privacy Guaranteed* GOTO http://www.HomeFreeWeb.com
[newbie] RPMs Go Where?
I've read the man page, but it just isn't clear to me: what parameter do I add to the rpm command so it will tell me where it's sticking all this wonderful stuff? I've been using -Uhv, but I'd like to have something so that I would see a display like tar -xfzf gives me. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to go with Linux...
Re: [newbie] RPMs Go Where?
I do it the lazy way: I use Midnight Commander ("mc" on the command line)
;-)
Hitting enter on an rpm (if it is NOT set to be executable) opens it just
like a directory.
Istvan
Lane Lester wrote:
I've read the man page, but it just isn't clear to me: what parameter do
I add to the rpm command so it will tell me where it's sticking all
this wonderful stuff? I've been using -Uhv, but I'd like to have
something so that I would see a display like tar -xfzf gives me.
--
Lane
Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA
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Re: [newbie] RPMs Go Where?
before installing the rpm, go to a xterm session, cd to the directory that has the RPM you want installed and try doing this. rpm -qipl ..rpm |more this will show you just about everything about the rpm. Eric At 07:27 AM 3/1/2000 -0500, Lane Lester wrote: I've read the man page, but it just isn't clear to me: what parameter do I add to the rpm command so it will tell me where it's sticking all this wonderful stuff? I've been using -Uhv, but I'd like to have something so that I would see a display like tar -xfzf gives me. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to go with Linux...
Re: [newbie] RPMs Go Where?
-- Message réacheminé -- Subject: Re: [newbie] RPMs Go Where? Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:36:49 +0100 From: flupke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To list all the files contained in a (uninstalled) package, simply type : rpm -qpl package.rpm You can also list just the documentation files or conig files by adding respectively -d or -c option. HTH Flupke Lane Lester wrote : I've read the man page, but it just isn't clear to me: what parameter do I add to the rpm command so it will tell me where it's sticking all this wonderful stuff? I've been using -Uhv, but I'd like to have something so that I would see a display like tar -xfzf gives me. -- Lane Lane Lester / Madison County, Georgia USA Getting where I want to go with Linux... ---
[newbie] RPMs
Im trying to install some rpms i got when i accidently bought turbolinux 6, and whenever I install the Doom and Doom2 rpm's, theyre supposed to appear in my /usr folder, and they dont. I even tried the exact command to open them in the console, and nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong? Colin
[newbie] rpms for mysql
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[newbie] RPMs
Hey Y'all, Does it make any difference "what kind" of rpm I see/install? What's the difference between an i386.rpm and a noarch.rpm? There is sometimes the option to download i386.rpm, i586.rpm or noarch.rpm, and sometimes there are even rpms with the same name from different companies (mandrake, suse, red hat, etc.) -- does it make any difference in the world which one I download and install? I assume i386 means you need at least a 386 machine, and 586 at least pentium, but noarch? Lance
Re: [newbie] RPMs
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, you wrote: with the same name from different companies (mandrake, suse, red hat, etc.) -- does it make any difference in the world which one I download and install? I Try to get either a Mandrake or a RedHat rpm, as the config files and whatnot will be in the same places. I have never had a problem with using a rpm for either of those distro's. Personally, I have never been able to get a Suse built rpm to work under Mandrake. If something other than mdk or redhat is all that is available, try getting the src rpm and rebuilding. assume i386 means you need at least a 386 machine, and 586 at least pentium, but noarch? noarch means that no special architecture is needed, the rpm is possibly something like a python or perl script or some sort of documentation. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] RPMs
If you want to install a package that comes from a different distribution that the one you use, you should check the files it will install with : rpm -qpl package.rpm and verify that it will not install files in a place that will mess up your configuration. Lance Carrie Borden wrote : Hey Y'all, Does it make any difference "what kind" of rpm I see/install? What's the difference between an i386.rpm and a noarch.rpm? There is sometimes the option to download i386.rpm, i586.rpm or noarch.rpm, and sometimes there are even rpms with the same name from different companies (mandrake, suse, red hat, etc.) -- does it make any difference in the world which one I download and install? I assume i386 means you need at least a 386 machine, and 586 at least pentium, but noarch? Lance
Re: [newbie] rpms for gcc?
pete moss wrote: sure, sorry, sometimes i forget to provide the essentials. i am trying to install csound from sources. there is an autoconf ./configure script that i need to run before i can make it. it checks for various things right away. one of the things it checks for is gcc, which it finds. then it somehow tests it to see if it works, and it comes back with a no. then it says my c compiler cannot compile. i was also trying to install rosegarden from source. it has a make file. i edited the makefile with proper paths then did make. it crashed out after a few lines with an error looking for 'makedepend'. i am not a gcc guru, so i am not sure if i have everything installed and configured right for it to work. i used to run slackware and gcc worked right away then. seems like this one should too. more info: i am running mandrake 6.0 that i burned from an iso image that i d/l from mandrake software. i have also installed the system updates from the web site. i have many packages for development installed - perhaps i should send you a list? sounds like glibc-devel isn't installed. Ken Wilson wrote: Can you be specific with some of the error messages you are getting when you try to compile? This would give us a better idea of what may be missing. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] rpms for gcc? what rpms do i need to install to get gcc to work? i have several installed but i cant get it to work right. any info or tips? :P -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] rpms for gcc?
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Steve Philp wrote: pete moss wrote: sure, sorry, sometimes i forget to provide the essentials. i am trying to install csound from sources. there is an autoconf ./configure script that i need to run before i can make it. it checks for various things right away. one of the things it checks for is gcc, which it finds. then it somehow tests it to see if it works, and it comes back with a no. then it says my c compiler cannot compile. i was also trying to install rosegarden from source. it has a make file. i edited the makefile with proper paths then did make. it crashed out after a few lines with an error looking for 'makedepend'. i am not a gcc guru, so i am not sure if i have everything installed and configured right for it to work. i used to run slackware and gcc worked right away then. seems like this one should too. more info: i am running mandrake 6.0 that i burned from an iso image that i d/l from mandrake software. i have also installed the system updates from the web site. i have many packages for development installed - perhaps i should send you a list? sounds like glibc-devel isn't installed. there should be a "config.log" check that and it will tell you precisely why it failed. Ken Wilson wrote: Can you be specific with some of the error messages you are getting when you try to compile? This would give us a better idea of what may be missing. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] rpms for gcc? what rpms do i need to install to get gcc to work? i have several installed but i cant get it to work right. any info or tips? :P -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] rpms for gcc?
what rpms do i need to install to get gcc to work? i have several installed but i cant get it to work right. any info or tips? :P
RE: [newbie] rpms for gcc?
Can you be specific with some of the error messages you are getting when you try to compile? This would give us a better idea of what may be missing. Ken Wilson First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming') -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pete moss Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] rpms for gcc? what rpms do i need to install to get gcc to work? i have several installed but i cant get it to work right. any info or tips? :P
RE: [newbie] RPMs (?)
Not to beat a dead a horse, but http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html , which is their English-Language Linux Distributions page, also clearly states: "It [Mandrake] actually runs on all Intel and compatibles [sic] architectures (486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, Pentium II and all clones)." Perhaps someone from Mandrake should take the initiative to correct the folks over at linux.org?? -Sean Noonan SPAWAR Business Applications Team (619) 537-0343 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ian W Douglas Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] RPMs (?) "Optimized for Pentium-class computers--run Linux faster with your Pentium..." IMHO the later suggests that users of Pentium-class CPUs will realize great performance gains, it does not [strongly enough] convey that a 486-100 won't cut the mustard. Pentiums are based on a different internal architecture than the 486. Instructions compiled for the new architecture have a hard time running on anything less, if it even runs at all. In addition, with such ambiguity, I noticed the bullet point on the box that read: "Complete compatibility with Red Hat 6.0--based on the Red Had distribution". Guess you missed the part of the box that says it works on Pentium-class processors then. ;-) No biggie. Glad you got everything sorted out. So, please know that I at least tried to do my homework before asking naive, stupid questions. This was particulary aimed at the guy who 'normally keeps quiet' ;-) Heheh. I believe you. I'm the same way... gotta check into everything before asking questions otherwise there's always someone that makes you feel like a big goof. I was on an HTML-developers mailing list and there was one guy on it who was always EXTREMELY helpful but his 'tone' was always very strong ... everyone harassed him big time 'cause he'd point out very obvious things that the question-asker didn't know, etc. Anyhow, I digress. So far I'm pretty impressed with Mandrake 6.0... not many hiccups on the system (yet). Cheers, --- Ian W. Douglas, Wild Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 506679
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
"Noonan, Mr Sean P." wrote: Not to beat a dead a horse, but http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html , which is their English-Language Linux Distributions page, also clearly states: "It [Mandrake] actually runs on all Intel and compatibles [sic] architectures (486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, Pentium II and all clones)." I believe Mandrake itself runs on a 486, but the updates don't. Weird. :)
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Pedro Timoteo wrote: I believe Mandrake itself runs on a 486, but the updates don't. Weird. :) Why don't you listen to what we say? - It is compiled with pgcc using -march=pentium. This allows pgcc to use pentium specific assembler instructions. It usually won't do it because we used the safe optimization flags (-O2 as opposed to -O6) because having a stable distribution is more important than having an ultimately fast one. But it doesn't say it NEVER does. - The kernel is compiled with CONFIG_M586 and without CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION. It might actually boot on a 486 (unlikely though), but all sorts of weird stuff can AND WILL happen. Wait for the 486 version, or it's your own fault. LLaP bero -- Tired of waiting for Windows 2000? STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
Not to put a dead horse out of it's misery, but that page hasn't been updated since Mandrake 5.2 or 5.3 was current. Look at what it says it provides (Netscape 4.05). Yes, it could have been made more clear that it was compiled for Pentium processors. However, now that it has been clarified, arguing about it doesn't solve anything. - Theo Pedro Timoteo wrote: "Noonan, Mr Sean P." wrote: Not to beat a dead a horse, but http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html , which is their English-Language Linux Distributions page, also clearly states: "It [Mandrake] actually runs on all Intel and compatibles [sic] architectures (486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, Pentium II and all clones)." I believe Mandrake itself runs on a 486, but the updates don't. Weird. :)
[newbie] RPMs (?)
I bought Mandrake-Linux so that I could get help if I ran into a stumbling block. I'm pretty much a newbie to the UNIX world with only a few months of FreeBSD experience under my belt. I therefore decided to PURCHASE Mandrake instead of downloading for free so that I could ask a question if something really bad happened. Something really bad happened. I emailed support and got a half-ass answer. I replied and told them so. They told me that they only support "installation of the OS" but I believe my question falls within that realm. My problem: I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on the "updates" icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program came back and gave me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on the button that said something like "go get the updates". It got the updates without a problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. I've checked the official FAQ, unofficial FAQ, Deja, etc. Nothing. My question: How do I fix this? -Sean Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
I believe that all the mandrake update mirrors have only the Pentium tweaked rpms. You could, however, go to the Red Hat mirrors and get the general rpms. I think the url is www.redhat.com/mirrors.html -- Ty Mixon e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:26147713 Original Message On 8/5/99, 10:18:18 AM, "Noonan, Mr Sean P." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] RPMs (?): [snip] However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. I've checked the official FAQ, unofficial FAQ, Deja, etc. Nothing. My question: How do I fix this? -Sean Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
People keep telling me that Mandrake is ONLY optimized for Pentium processors, so it's not even supposed to work on a 486. At 01:18 PM 8/5/99 , you wrote: I bought Mandrake-Linux so that I could get help if I ran into a stumbling block. I'm pretty much a newbie to the UNIX world with only a few months of FreeBSD experience under my belt. I therefore decided to PURCHASE Mandrake instead of downloading for free so that I could ask a question if something really bad happened. Something really bad happened. I emailed support and got a half-ass answer. I replied and told them so. They told me that they only support "installation of the OS" but I believe my question falls within that realm. My problem: I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on the "updates" icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program came back and gave me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on the button that said something like "go get the updates". It got the updates without a problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. I've checked the official FAQ, unofficial FAQ, Deja, etc. Nothing. My question: How do I fix this? -Sean Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ken Gunton WB6QWF Techlock Distributing, Dayton, Ohio USA CAGE 01DH7 http://www.techlock.com Microwave RF Components Phone 937-434-5078, fax 5079
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
For the nth time. Mandrake 6.0 sucks on anything less that a 586... all of the packages are optimized for the pentium architechture. It would occur to me that MandrakeSoft Tech support should have probably asked that right up front. "Noonan, Mr Sean P." wrote: I bought Mandrake-Linux so that I could get help if I ran into a stumbling block. I'm pretty much a newbie to the UNIX world with only a few months of FreeBSD experience under my belt. I therefore decided to PURCHASE Mandrake instead of downloading for free so that I could ask a question if something really bad happened. Something really bad happened. I emailed support and got a half-ass answer. I replied and told them so. They told me that they only support "installation of the OS" but I believe my question falls within that realm. My problem: I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on the "updates" icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program came back and gave me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on the button that said something like "go get the updates". It got the updates without a problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. I've checked the official FAQ, unofficial FAQ, Deja, etc. Nothing. My question: How do I fix this? -Sean Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Noonan, Mr Sean P. wrote: I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on the "updates" icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program came back and gave me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on the button that said something like "go get the updates". It got the updates without a problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. Please tell me how you managed to get it to run on a 486. It's not supposed to work on a 486 (I'm currently compiling a 486 compatible version though) and we never claimed it would. If you keep using this version on a 486, you'll probably run into a lot more problems. You should wait for the 486 version (should be only a couple of days from now), or use a distribution that wasn't made for Pentium+ processors. LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
People keep telling me that Mandrake is ONLY optimized for Pentium processors, so it's not even supposed to work on a 486. Although I'm typically one to sit back and read what's going on, I couldn't pass this one up. The very colourful red and white box that Mandrake 6.0 cleary specified that Mandrake 6.0 was optimized for Pentium-class processors and even listed on the edge of the box (the bottom I think) which processors it supported. Cheers, --- Ian W. Douglas, Wild Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 506679
RE: [newbie] RPMs (?)
Thanks to all who have replied.
It would seem to me that either a 486 is supported-or not-not some halfway
solution. The HCL should be the definitive answer to this, and, according
to the HCL, it appears that it *is* supported, optimized or not, slow or
not.
I think it really sucks that it installs properly but updates can't be
automagically done [as it was designed].
Also, while Bert has apparently stated the min. requirements on several
previous occasions, please keep in mind that *I* have never heard his
message before. I'm a newbie, remember?
Finally, I'd like to say that the "free Mandrake support folks" gave me
advice that was not accurate. They told me, as some of the other
respondents have, to "do it manually". It's not the update utility that's
broken, it's the lack of appropriate RPMs for my architecture. Doing it
"manually" provides the exact same results as the "automagic utility"-no
results. Their response was worthless, I could have saved myself $50 and
downloaded Mandrake for free...
-Sean Noonan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bert
Bullough
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] RPMs (?)
For the nth time. Mandrake 6.0 sucks on anything less that a
586... all of the
packages are optimized for the pentium architechture. It
would occur to me that
MandrakeSoft Tech support should have probably asked that
right up front.
"Noonan, Mr Sean P." wrote:
I bought Mandrake-Linux so that I could get help if I ran
into a stumbling
block. I'm pretty much a newbie to the UNIX world with
only a few months of
FreeBSD experience under my belt. I therefore decided to
PURCHASE Mandrake
instead of downloading for free so that I could ask a
question if something
really bad happened.
Something really bad happened. I emailed support and got
a half-ass answer.
I replied and told them so. They told me that they only
support
"installation of the OS" but I believe my question falls
within that realm.
My problem:
I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on
the "updates"
icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program
came back and gave
me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on
the button that
said something like "go get the updates". It got the
updates without a
problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I
got an error
messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different
architecture".
Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in
their names. I'm
running on a 486, not a 586.
I've checked the official FAQ, unofficial FAQ, Deja, etc.
Nothing.
My question:
How do I fix this?
-Sean Noonan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] RPMs (?)
I did nothing special to get it to run on my 486. I booted off of the boot floppy, chose "custom", and away I went... -Sean Noonan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rosenkraenzer Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [newbie] RPMs (?) On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Noonan, Mr Sean P. wrote: I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on the "updates" icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program came back and gave me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on the button that said something like "go get the updates". It got the updates without a problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. Please tell me how you managed to get it to run on a 486. It's not supposed to work on a 486 (I'm currently compiling a 486 compatible version though) and we never claimed it would. If you keep using this version on a 486, you'll probably run into a lot more problems. You should wait for the 486 version (should be only a couple of days from now), or use a distribution that wasn't made for Pentium+ processors. LLaP bero
RE: [newbie] RPMs (?)
I loaded it on a Dell 466ME and it is running happily (although of course it is slow). I didn't do anything special, just loaded it from CD. Interesting. Eric -Original Message- From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 2:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [newbie] RPMs (?) On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Noonan, Mr Sean P. wrote: I just purchased and installed Mandrake 6.0 and clicked on the "updates" icon within KDE/X. I chose a local mirror. The program came back and gave me several RPMs that needed to be upgraded. I clicked on the button that said something like "go get the updates". It got the updates without a problem. However, upon trying to install the updates, I got an error messages telling me that the RPMs were for a "different architecture". Indeed, the RPMs the update utility received had "i586" in their names. I'm running on a 486, not a 586. Please tell me how you managed to get it to run on a 486. It's not supposed to work on a 486 (I'm currently compiling a 486 compatible version though) and we never claimed it would. If you keep using this version on a 486, you'll probably run into a lot more problems. You should wait for the 486 version (should be only a couple of days from now), or use a distribution that wasn't made for Pentium+ processors. LLaP bero
