Re: [newbie-it] installazione xine

2001-12-20 Per discussione Sebastiano Cordiano

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:54:28 -0800 (PST)
luigi pinna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ecco qua... Io ho risolto impostandomi le
  variabili
  di ambiente XINE_CONFIG e LD_LIBRARY_PATH con il
  percorso per il file xine-config e con il percorso
  delle librerie di xine:
  
XINE_CONFIG=/usr/local/bin/xine-config
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
  
  Dopodiche' ricompilando mi era andato tutto bene.
  Spero che risolva i tuoi problemi!! Fammi sapere.
 
 purtroppo non ha funzionato neanche cos_!
 qualcuno conosce un'alternativa valida a xine?
 vi prego non vorrei dover esser costretto ad usare
 windows proprio per il dvd!
 
Hai gia' provato Videolan?
E' un ottima alternativa a Xine (e per certi versi anche migliore) ed
utilizza sia Xvideo che le SDL per le accelerazioni video. Puoi trovarlo
qui http://www.videolan.org 
Ciao

-- 

Sebastiano




Fwd: [newbie-it] avi-xmms plugini!!!!!!!!

2001-12-20 Per discussione Matteo



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Subject: [newbie-it] avi-xmms plugini
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:47:00 -0500
From: Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sto cercando di instalare avi-xmms plugin su mandrake8, ma non riesco.
quando eseguo ,/configure nel finale mi scrive:
the XMMS-config script installed by XMMS could not be found.
if XMMS was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in your path, or set
the XMMS_CONFIG enviroment variable to the full path to xmms_config.

Spero che qualcuno mi possa aiutare.

---




[newbie-it] Problemi con GCombust

2001-12-20 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Salve a tutti,
io ho una Mandrake 8.0, ho sia un HD che un masterizzatore SCSI. Non 
riesco a
configurare GCombust.
In preferenze ho settato tutti i percorsi dei programmi, si trovano 
tutti
sotto /usr/bin/.
Nella scheda dispositivi non mi riconosce il drive SCSI: quando infatti 
vado
a cliccare su controlla settaggi SCSI mi dice che non riconosce il drive
selezionato, ciò non ostante il mio masterizzatore funziona benissimo in
lettura. Se provo comunque a fare un CD dati, tutti i file che aggiungo 
hanno
una dimensione di 0MB e lo spazio usato del CD è sempre 0.
Cosa mi consigliate?

Grazie mille
Enrico



R: R: [newbie-it] Infrarossi !!!

2001-12-20 Per discussione mino





Da comando lspci: Communications controller : lucent Winmodem 56K.
Da Mandrake control center ho notato che lo identifica ma non ha il file
modulo(kernel module:unknown).



-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Per
conto di Luigi De Pascale
Inviato: mercoledi 19 dicembre 2001 19.07
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] Infrarossi !!!


On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, mino wrote:

 Come faccio a verificare che il mio winmodem funzioni? in fase di
 installazione mi ha detto di collegarmi al sito www.linmodems.org.
 Inoltre ho provare a fare una ricerca sul famoso cellulare+infrarossi ma
non
 riesco a trovare nulla.
 Aspetto vostre notizie
 Mino



Comincerei con lo stabilire che modem hai:
lspci
che cosa ti risponde?
Ciao
Luigi
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(Tolkien)

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Re: R: R: [newbie-it] Infrarossi !!!

2001-12-20 Per discussione Luigi De Pascale

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, mino wrote: 
 
 Da comando lspci: Communications controller : lucent Winmodem 56K.
 Da Mandrake control center ho notato che lo identifica ma non ha il file
 modulo(kernel module:unknown).
 
 
 -Messaggio originale-
 
 
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, mino wrote:
 
  Come faccio a verificare che il mio winmodem funzioni? in fase di
  installazione mi ha detto di collegarmi al sito www.linmodems.org.
  Inoltre ho provare a fare una ricerca sul famoso cellulare+infrarossi ma
 non
  riesco a trovare nulla.
  Aspetto vostre notizie
  Mino
 
 
 
 Comincerei con lo stabilire che modem hai:
 lspci
 che cosa ti risponde?
 Ciao
   Luigi
 --

Un po' pochino come informazione ma il fatto che lspci lo veda rende 
ottimisti sulla possibilita' che funzioni.

Non e' che da windows ( se lo hai ancora installato ottieni piu' 
informazioni?).

E' normale che ti dica che non sa che modulo usare. Non ci sono i moduli 
per i winmodem nella distribuzione.

Comunque dovrebbe bastarti scaricare i driver in formato rpm per il tuo 
kernel ed installarli. Li trovi seguento il link lucent dal sito 
www.linmodems.org
Attento, la versione 5.99 non funziona bene. la 6a dovrebbe andare. La 6 b 
non ho mai provato ma mi sembra di ricordare che qualcuno mi abbia detto 
che non funziona.
Ciao
Luigi






[newbie-it] Stampanti e Server

2001-12-20 Per discussione Luigi De Pascale

Salve a tutti.
Ho appena installato la Mdk 8.1 su un pc.
Ho messo su i cups ed ho bisogno di cambiare il formato della carta da 
letter ad A4.
Purtroppo da localhost:631 il configure printer non funziona, dice
client-error-not-found.

qualcuno sa come sistemare la cosa oppure come settare la carta da un 
altro posto.
Luigi

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Re: [newbie-it] Stampanti e Server

2001-12-20 Per discussione Daniele Micci

Il giorno 13:39, giovedì 20 dicembre 2001 hai scritto:
 Salve a tutti.
 Ho appena installato la Mdk 8.1 su un pc.
 Ho messo su i cups ed ho bisogno di cambiare il formato della carta da
 letter ad A4.
 Purtroppo da localhost:631 il configure printer non funziona, dice
 client-error-not-found.

 qualcuno sa come sistemare la cosa oppure come settare la carta da un
 altro posto.
 Luigi

Puoi sempre installare KUPS e farlo da lì.

Daniele




[newbie-it] Fwd: Re: [Notice] password

2001-12-20 Per discussione Daniele Micci

Ciao a tutti,
qualche giorno fa qualcuno in questa lista (scusate, non ricordo chi) aveva 
scoperto che Mandrake Linux controlla in realtà solo i primi 8 caratteri 
delle password degli utenti. Così, avevo scritto alla MandrakeSoft. Questa è 
la loro risposta...

Daniele

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Subject: Re: [Notice] password
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:36:15 +0100
From: Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 in these days someone on the mailing list newbie-it discovered that
 Mandrake Linux checks only first 8 characters of user's account password.
 And this is not outlined in any of the distro's docs. So, the risk is to
 create the same password for twoor more users.
 I wish the next release will really permit longer user's passwords (at
 least 12-15 characters).

there's been a security update for passwd in order to enable it to use more
characters through md5 method.




Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat

2001-12-20 Per discussione Michael Viron

Does anyone know of a list that is newbie friendly?

My wife is the only one allowed to beat me up.  I'm very reluctant to ask 
questions here because of the way people have been treated lately.

I have learned a lot lurking between the flames, but it has gotten to the 
point where you are not fun or funny any more.

Good luck, Civileme.  You have to put up with 'em.

I don't.

Lee Wiggers

Lee,

There are those of us, including civilme, Vincent Danen, myself, and others
that do help the newbies on this list without 'flaming' people -- and
hopefully providing the newbies with new insights and so forth.

Most of us 'experts' have simply seen more of the problems a newbie is
likely to face and simply have more ideas as to what to check,
re-configure, install, or whatever the case may be.

If you feel you'll get flamed on-list, don't hesitate to send an e-mail to
me or one of the others directly.  If nothing else, we can at least
(hopefully) provide suggestions that might point you in the right direction.

Michael

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[newbie] X

2001-12-20 Per discussione Roy Barton

Ok. Here is the deal. I am working on computer for my friend. Here are the specs:
Athlon 1Ghz CUP
Via Motherboard
512 MB RAM
S3 Savage 4 video (on board)
ESS modem (winmodem)

I have installed Mandrake 8.1 so many times I can count them all.  His pc kit 
(including cpu, mb, case) came with Red Hat 7.1, so we tried that. Guess what?! The 
second CD is BLANK! No go on that one. So some one told me about the 'setuptool' 
command. I installed MDK 8.1 again and used the 'setuptool' option.  No go on that 
one.  The Red Hat booklet stressed the fact to use the generic SVGA drivers.  So I 
used the generic drivers under 8.1.  No go. Just a flashing screen on boot.  I have to 
get it working. Any ideas

Thanks


Roy



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Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

2001-12-20 Per discussione civileme

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 09:18 pm, Kelly McCormick wrote:
 Ok, maybe it's just a coincidence, but I have a less than 2 year old
 Dell Dimension XPS T550 that just crapped out it's second motherboard. It
 first started having problems after I'd had it about 3 months and decided
 to try out Mandrake 7.2 within three or four weeks it started having
 problems booting. To make a long story a little shorter after about a year
 of reformats, and nursing, and complaining to Dell, I convinced myself and
 Dell support that it was the mother board. I replaced it, and like magic
 all problems went away. About a month ago, I decided that my system had
 been relatively stable for too long and decided to give linux another try.
 I installed Mandrake 8.1. I have been using it continuously for the last
 four weeks and was really starting to enjoy it. Unfortunately this morning
 my system is once again dead. Motherboard again appears to have crapped
 out. Now personally I have a hard time believing that linux had anything to
 do with it, but both times I had been running linux nonstop for approx 1
 month when the problems first appeared. I would be interested to hear any
 thoughts any of you may have on this.


Nonstop, eh?

I bet you slowly toasted the on-board electrolytic capacitors so that they 
dried out.  Try  a bigger case fan to keep it a little cooler inside.

Of course memtest-x86.bin is on the mandrake CD under images/ and you can dd 
it or rawrite it to floppy and maybe it will boot and test your memory just 
to be safe.

What are the dead symptoms?  Are fans running or nothing at all?  If nothing 
at all, it can be a shorted cap or other short on the mobo or the power 
supply.  If fans run, look for a dead video card or processor or a bad cap.

Heat and drought kill more mobos than any software I am aware of with the 
exception of some IBM ThinkPads, and we even try to preotect users from that, 
but a use of lm_sensors/lm_utils can overwrite the PROM controlling the I2C 
bus on those mothers and there is no way to flash them on board and they are 
soldered in, so it is a factory return for a new mother.

I have had two Dells running for a year or more steadily.  They did fail on 
booting the disks they weresupplied with, which was interesting, because 
those same disks booted linux without complaint attached to other mothers, 
and after a month of rest the dells were supplied with whatever trash disks 
hardware testing happened to have and they recognized them.  Even the third 
Dell from a different user which died in exactly the same way--no recognition 
of hard drive was OK after a month off and with a different hdd.  How that 
happened is that I took the three back to purchasing and the agent there 
wanted more detail on what was wrong and sent them to hardware testing after 
a month.

SO you may have that problem...  If you have another computer what happens if 
you swap hard drives between the two?

Civileme
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Re: [newbie] X

2001-12-20 Per discussione civileme

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 11:23 pm, Roy Barton wrote:
 Ok. Here is the deal. I am working on computer for my friend. Here are the
 specs: Athlon 1Ghz CUP
 Via Motherboard
 512 MB RAM
 S3 Savage 4 video (on board)
 ESS modem (winmodem)

 I have installed Mandrake 8.1 so many times I can count them all.  His pc
 kit (including cpu, mb, case) came with Red Hat 7.1, so we tried that.
 Guess what?! The second CD is BLANK! No go on that one. So some one told me
 about the 'setuptool' command. I installed MDK 8.1 again and used the
 'setuptool' option.  No go on that one.  The Red Hat booklet stressed the
 fact to use the generic SVGA drivers.  So I used the generic drivers under
 8.1.  No go. Just a flashing screen on boot.  I have to get it working. Any
 ideas

 Thanks


 Roy
Use expert mode and select XFree 4.1.0 set for the S3 Savage Graphics 
card--test it... If that doesn't work set for the FBDev (yes, the framebuffer 
worked during install and is capable of 1024x768x16 on most cards.)

Civileme
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[Fwd: Re: [newbie] X]

2001-12-20 Per discussione Anuerin G. Diaz


here is my answer to roy which i have accidentally sent to roy. so
civileme was the somebody grin. but i am using 4.1.0 and the probo tip
is the only one that enabled me to use 8.1 at home. i am also using a
dial-up connection at home so choosing a 100Kb driver sure beats
downloading the updated Xfree86 packages. ;-)

but as long as it works for you, then it must be good!

ciao!


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [newbie] X
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:40:39 +0800
From: Anuerin G. Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Roy Barton wrote:

 Ok. Here is the deal. I am working on computer for my friend. Here are the specs:
 Athlon 1Ghz CUP
 Via Motherboard
 512 MB RAM
 S3 Savage 4 video (on board)
 ESS modem (winmodem)

 I have installed Mandrake 8.1 so many times I can count them all.  His pc kit 
(including cpu, mb, case) came with Red Hat 7.1, so we tried that. Guess what?! The 
second CD is BLANK! No go on that one. So some one told me about the 'setuptool' 
command. I installed MDK 8.1 again and used the 'setuptool' option.  No go on that 
one.  The Red Hat booklet stressed the fact to use the generic SVGA drivers.  So I 
used the generic drivers under 8.1.  No go. Just a flashing screen on boot.  I have 
to get it working. Any ideas

 Thanks

 Roy

   
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ok so maybe somebody posted about upgrading the Xfree86 packages but i
havent and i can still use my mandrake 8.1 at home even if  i have an
onboard ProSavage chip. The quickest way is to download the updated
driver found at

www.probo.com/timr/

 im not 100% sure at that site but do a search at the
mandrakeuser.org/mub site and you will find it there as this has been
tackled there over and over again.  the instructions are also there so
it would be pretty useless to reiterate it here.


ciao!

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Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat

2001-12-20 Per discussione Julian Opificius

Hi Ric,

PS: Julian; You're good sport. You'll do OK with this stuff!  :)

Cheers Ric - you too :-)

b.t.w. In the past hour or so I went back and reinstalled Mandrake 8.1. I 
was a lot more studious of options, and managed to get the installer accept 
the partitions I'd created in System Commander (a simple /boot, /, /swap 
setup for now) and things went OK.
My just-updated System Commander 7 saw the install (mind you, I was 
previously at SC2000, which didn't).
Only problem was that my CD-ROM drive refused to see my 2ns and 3rd CDs. I 
burned 'em myself, and Windows see's them. I think I've seen some mention 
of this before on the list, that sometimes the faster readers are a bit 
fussy of home-brew CD-Rs.

Anyway, I'm now trying to get Samba to work. A Linux share I created was 
showing upon the Linux box for a while, but then it all went away.
I'm really thinking it's Windows, because when I rebooted my RedHat install 
to cross-check, the shares from that install aren't working either! All I 
get when I try to access the Linux box in the browser is an invitation to 
put in a password for the IPC$ share!

I'll keep poking at it ;-)

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Re: [newbie] kde/mdk objprelink???

2001-12-20 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:40:26 +1100, Navin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello people
 
 Just wondering if Mandrake is planning to compile their rpms the 'prelinked' 
 way in the future. Is it planned for the next version or in the near future?
 
 thanks
 
 navin

the KDE RPMs in Cooker are objprelinked. You can install them onto Mandrake 8.1
(with a little tweaking afterwards) or you can wait for the next Mandrake
release.

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Re: [newbie] Install WinAMP using Wine

2001-12-20 Per discussione Derek Jennings

On Thursday 20 December 2001 06:08, you wrote:
 I have installed Wine. And I try to install WinAmp (a Windows base program
 for playing MP3 file).
 When I open WinAmp SETUP.EXE with Wine, its oke until error message Can
 not make C:\Program Files\WinAmp directory

 What should I do?

 My computer only have Mandrake OS.

use xmms  Its awesome.. Terrific audio plugins and visualisations to play 
with, and it even comes with winamp skins so you can pretend it is winamp

Leave wine for the applications where there is no alternative.

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[newbie] Hot keys for toggling btw text and graphic modes

2001-12-20 Per discussione Stephen Liu

Hi All People,

What will be the hot keys for toggling between text and graphic modes at 
starting Linux

Thanks

B.R.
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[newbie] small installation problem of kde beta3

2001-12-20 Per discussione Navin

Hello people

I ust tried to install kde3beta1 - installation went fine but when I start
startx it just exists back to the prompt.

i installed it by urpmi --auto-select *.rpm (in the downloaded directory)

any ideas?

thanks for your help


navin



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[newbie] small installation problem of kde beta3

2001-12-20 Per discussione Navin

Hello people

I ust tried to install kde3beta1 - installation went fine but when I start 
startx it just exists back to the prompt.

i installed it by urpmi --auto-select *.rpm (in the downloaded directory)

any ideas?

thanks for your help


navin



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[newbie] Some opinion for Mandrake Website

2001-12-20 Per discussione Wendy Nexcom

Below are my opinions about Mandrake.com web site:

1. The website size make problem on 800x600 screen. Too width. I should
scroll the bar. Possible to make website that have automatic adjusment when
running on 800x600 or 1024x768?
2. Try to print any document, you will find the left side not printed. The
webmaster should make any adjusment when user try to print some thing on A4
paper, I think only limited user print on A3 paper or using landscape
format, aren't you?
3. The bar menu Main Pages - Feature - Screenshots  too width. And,
hey .. nothing below Security - Contact bar menu.
4. Try to open any related site,i.e Mandrake Campus. You will find
different format. Look like no integrated page format between the related
site, look like come from different linux product.

Sorry, if my opinion too early, but I dream the website will be better, to
show the Mandrake Class .. VIP?.




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Re: [newbie] mandrake come from red hat

2001-12-20 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 08:38 pm, civileme wrote:
  Does anyone know of a list that is newbie friendly?
 
  My wife is the only one allowed to beat me up.  I'm very reluctant to ask
  questions here because of the way people have been treated lately.
 
  I have learned a lot lurking between the flames, but it has gotten to the
  point where you are not fun or funny any more.
 
  Good luck, Civileme.  You have to put up with 'em.
 
  I don't.
 
  Lee Wiggers

 Last year, this was the place and the flames were on the expert list.  This
 year, I would say try the expert list.

 I may start a list as well, but I am sure to be branded a Nazi for
 censoring it, and I would, too, because I believe there are adequate
 avenues for freedom of speech.  If I start a list, I will let you know.  I
 would not moderate it but I would insist on courtesy with removal for
 flames.

 Actually, this isn't that hot.  Try a RH list if you don't believe me.

 Civileme

New List == Really Bad Idea(C). I'm already spending way too much time 
jumping between these lists, the Forum, MandrakeUser and the other Mandrake 
related sites. Yeah, things have gotten a little heated up over the past week 
or so -- something close to a nervous breakdown (not entirely unexpected in 
view of previous postings by that person), and two minor flame wars 
involving controversies about the real meaning of RTFM. This kind of stuff 
happens from time to time and, like a kidney stone, it too shall pass. Hardly 
sufficient reason to start YALMML.

OK, now it's time to install LM8.1.

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[newbie] Approximate Schedule for Mandrake 8.2?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Anybody know approximately (or better) when Mandrake 8.2 will be out?

I'm getting eager to upgrade from 7.2, but had significant difficulty
with 8.0 and Traktopel Beta 3, I'm hoping that 8.2 might be the charm.

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Re: [newbie] Approximate Schedule for Mandrake 8.2?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:59:42 -0500
Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anybody know approximately (or better) when Mandrake 8.2 will be out?
 
 I'm getting eager to upgrade from 7.2, but had significant difficulty
 with 8.0 and Traktopel Beta 3, I'm hoping that 8.2 might be the charm.
 
 

   April

But do not look for any version to be a cure all.
Any will have some problems/bugs but the more versions you use and learn
from the easier the next is for you to adapt and configure to your system.


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Re: [newbie] Hot keys for toggling btw text and graphic modes

2001-12-20 Per discussione Kathy Montgomery

I don't know if there are hot keys exactly, but generally whether you start
in text or graphic mode depends on which run level is used.  The run level
can be thought of as a level of operation.  Here are the default run levels
for Mandrake:

0 - power down the machine
1 - single user mode
2 - multi-user mode w/o networking
3 - mult-user mode WITH networking
4 - (not used)
5 - multi-user mode with networking and graphical environment
6 - reboot the machine

I'm guessing you want to be able to choose between runlevels 3 and 5.  If
you're using the lilo boot loader, you could hit Escape when the lilo screen
comes up, then type the name of the lilo entry you want to boot followed by
the appropriate runlevel number (linux 3 or linux 5).

If you wanted to, you could create two entries in lilo -- one that starts
Linux in text mode, and one that starts in graphic mode.  But that's another
e-mail. :)

- Kathy

Stephen Liu wrote:

 Hi All People,

 What will be the hot keys for toggling between text and graphic modes at
 starting Linux

 Thanks

 B.R.
 Stephen Liu

   
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[newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version

2001-12-20 Per discussione Wendy Nexcom

I am 12 (twelve) years experience Windows user but only 6 months using
Mandrake, and I hope Mandrake 8.2 (or 9.0 ??) will support:

1. Change screen resolution directly in X Windows, rather Ctrl Alt +/-
If I want to change my screen resolution, I should:
a. Go to Mandrake Control Panel
b. Access the Desktop then click on Screen Resolution
c. Click the screen resolution that I want

2. Integrated Control Panel. Any setting should be access via Control Panel.
ANY SETTING!

3. No more stupid name xyx -123-.RPM. Just use install.exe. Paket
name will be like this:
a. \mnt\cdrom\startoffice\install.exe
b. \mnt\cdrom\kde3.0\install.exe
c. \mnt\cdrom\koffice2.0\install.exe

   Example for StarOffice:
Below is the example to install StartOffice with NEW Mandrake generation:
a. Insert cdrom, go to \mnt\cdrom\StartOffice\install.exe
b. When I access install.exe the installation will:
c. Automatic detect whether I already have previously program
d. If Yes, the istallation offer me upgrade. If no, just make new
installation

4. Worsktation is NOT Server!

Why you (Mandrake expert) doesn't understand this simple term? Why put any
server
capability in the Worstation?
Better (the world already proved this) if you have separate product
development for
SERVER and Workstation. So, will be Mandrake Server 3.1 and Mandrake
Workstation 9.0.

Why shoul be separate?
a. Worsktation is NOT Server!
b. The speed growth of both is different. Workstation grow faster than
Server
c. More fancy stuf in WS. Server usually SIMPLE but STABLE
d. Easy to developt STABLE and TESTED and FIELD PROVED product because we
will have
   segmented user who TESTING the product. Example: a secretaty who use
KOffice never
   understant the SERVER problem but she know what the LASTED problem she
found with
   KOffice! (But the Net Admin doesn't know this WS problem, he do Server
control)
e. Why should I download stupid .iso 640 MB including the Server
program?
   I was wasting my time to download 640 MB ISO file only for Mandrake 8.3,
I just
   want to use Workstation program.
f. Easy migration from Windows to Mandrake.
   As we know, the big challenge is how to prove that migration to Mandrake
is as easy
   as Windows? But, I already do small survey to our Secretary,
Administration Staff and
   our Finance Staff ... the result: Windows easier than Mandrake! BUT our
Net Admin say:
   Mandrake is better. Hey ... our Net Admin still use MS Word to make
office report!
g. Good product mean: usually very DIFFICULT to developt but EASIER to
use!
   Do you know how much time require to make Microsoft? I don't know.
h. Text VS GUI
   Let the Net Admin using Text file configuration, but the Secretary
using GUI interface
   to make any adjusment. I mean should be any different way to use
for make any
 configuration depent on the purpose.
i. Do you think I will add RAID 5 in my Workstation. And install Apache
too? FTP Server?
j. Server is NOT Workstation!


That's not ALL, I still THINKING what I want for New Mandrake, but sorry, I
can't do the revision because I have very limited Linux knowledge. I am JUST
A USER not the CREATOR. Sorry, if my opinion TOO IDEAL???

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 0.9.4?

2001-12-20 Per discussione TiMEv01
can you or someone get me off this mailing list please!


Re: [newbie] Approximate Schedule for Mandrake 8.2?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Charles A Edwards wrote:
April

Charles,

Thanks!

 But do not look for any version to be a cure all.
 Any will have some problems/bugs but the more versions you use and learn
 from the easier the next is for you to adapt and configure to your system.

Yeah, but ...

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Re: [newbie] Scanners Printers

2001-12-20 Per discussione Marcia

Dear Kal,

Thank you for your info. I will check into HP's also. I thought I would only 
go with Epson however I may change my mind. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Marcia


On Tuesday 18 December 2001 14:27, you wrote:
 Well Marcia, I don't know about scanners, but I own a HP 930c printer.
 It performs fine, is (relatively) silent and prints beautyful photos on
 photopaper. I use the CUPS printing system in LM 8.1. Another reason to
 choose a HP-printer is that Hewlett-Packard supports linux and supply
 their own drivers for linux, free to download (in case you don't want to
 use CUPS (Common Unix Printing System)).

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Re: [newbie] I've got a strange one

2001-12-20 Per discussione Michel Clasquin

On Thursday 20 December 2001 07:10, Julian Opificius wrote:
 
  In short, Microsoft is no more able to build secure products
  than England's cricket team is able to withstand the bowling
  of Australia's bowlers.
-- John Leyden, MS firewall is holier than the Pope,
The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-08-20.

 Ouch!
 The deepest cut of all !
 He's right, of course :-(

Right now, you could substitute South Africa for England as well

wailing_and_gnashing_of_teeth.mp3

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[newbie] Lilypond

2001-12-20 Per discussione Marcia

Dear All,

Has anyone used Lilypond with the denemo frontend yet? I would like to set 
this up but I do not quite understand how.  Would someone be able to coach me 
through it? Thanks very much.

Sincerely,

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version

2001-12-20 Per discussione Ed Tharp

On Thursday 20 December 2001 11:10, you wrote:
 I am 12 (twelve) years experience Windows user but only 6 months using
 Mandrake, and I hope Mandrake 8.2 (or 9.0 ??) will support:


Just as correct typing is important when using computer commands, some folks 
might be surprised to learn of the length of time you have been using 
windows since as I recall, windows 3.0 was developed in 1990, and at the 
time verry few folks had a color computer, or one that could run winder$. 
it also appears to those of us whom might have used Linux a few weeks (long 
enough to get connected to the Internet, and get an e-mail program running 
anyway) might feel as if you have some windows (read; Micro$oft influenced) 
preconceptions as to what an OS should do. Please try and keep an open 
mind, and hopefully you might relaise that the open source movement allows a 
great number of choices as to how something should be done, and the result is 
that while it may not work the way YOU wanted, it does work in a way that 
most folks who use it seem to want. try leaving M$winders preconceptions at 
the login prompt. if you would like help to leave the M$lookout virus 
transport agent, I bet this list would be THE place to get help.   
(your mail headers show that your letter was written: 
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600)


 1. Change screen resolution directly in X Windows, rather Ctrl Alt +/-
   If I want to change my screen resolution, I should:
   a. Go to Mandrake Control Panel
   b. Access the Desktop then click on Screen Resolution
   c. Click the screen resolution that I want
Gosh, I thought you could go thru all those steps if you wanted.
Kmenu  configuration  Other  Mandrake Control Center (which may well be on 
your desktop, but since you want the steps as opposed to a hot key) log in as 
root (this is to give added security, keeps users from screwing with stuff 
they should not), Hardware  Display.  

 2. Integrated Control Panel. Any setting should be access via Control
 Panel. ANY SETTING!
Too many possible choice of environments for that, I would not want to have 
to set up icewm, if I never intend to use it. but in truth linuxconf was that 
long ago, and I bet still works good.


 3. No more stupid name xyx -123-.RPM. Just use install.exe. Paket
 name will be like this:
   a. \mnt\cdrom\startoffice\install.exe
   b. \mnt\cdrom\kde3.0\install.exe
   c. \mnt\cdrom\koffice2.0\install.exe
gee I don't think that I want a diffent folder but the same program name. 
and did you ever hear of a reall cool utility for *ix systems called 
autocomplete ? instead of typing the whole name out you type the first 
couple of letters and hit TAB. the system will try and complete the command. 
if there are more than one choice, you will be giving the choices, and can 
type in a few more letters (and tab) until only one choice remains. 

you might get a bunch O' flame for this, since this is a _Very_ M$-centric 
view of how things should work. If you drove a GM product all your life and 
got into a 1966 ford, you might consider the key to be upside down since 
the teeth of the key fit opposite, but it would be hard to tell that to the 
guy that had only had fords up to that point.  


Example for StarOffice:
   Below is the example to install StartOffice with NEW Mandrake generation:
   a. Insert cdrom, go to \mnt\cdrom\StartOffice\install.exe
   b. When I access install.exe the installation will:
   c. Automatic detect whether I already have previously program
   d. If Yes, the istallation offer me upgrade. If no, just make new
 installation


Star office, while included with Mandrake, is not a Mandrake product, and 
Mandrake (or anyone else for that matter) can not demand how SUN decides to 
make their product run. the best that can be hoped for wold be a program that 
reads the info from the program to be installed, decides where to install it 
from that info, decides either it is already installed, and if any other 
software is required to run the program. instead of naming it install.exe 
as you demand, it is called RPM and the GUM for that included with mandrake 
is called software manager. it is in the same mandrake control center as 
the display but where you click  Hardware  Display click  System   
software manager. or if you have installed everything correctly (and haven't 
botched it up by trying different stuff, like me) you should be able to click 
on any file with a .RPM extension, and get the software manger to start right 
away. you can even search for a certain program name.  




 4. Worsktation is NOT Server!
Mine is. Game box too. Lots of choices is one of the reasons people change to 
linux. may I ask what made you decide to try?
one of the things it seems to me, is that Linux is kinda heading in this 
direction, specialized distros for certian applications, 

Re: [newbie] Galeon install

2001-12-20 Per discussione Michel Clasquin

On Thursday 20 December 2001 05:49, Terry C wrote:
 I think this may have come up in the recent past but I
 coulnd't find it in the list archives sooo.. I am
 trying to install Galeon 1.0.1 but I get this message
 error: failed dependencies: mozilla = 0.9.6 is needed
 by galeon-1.0.1-1mdk. The problem is that I have
 already installed mozilla 0.9.6. 

I had this problem once. In kpackage I could see that mysteriously, moz 
0.96 had been installed without overwriting 0.94, so there were now 
effectively TWO mozillas onboard and when I tried to install galeon, it 
only saw the first, earlier, one. This is not supposed to be possible 
unless you ask for it explicitly, but it happened anyway (there were two 
Galeons too - it was really messy in there). 

The answer in my case was to do, logged in as root, this command in a 
terminal: rpm -e mozilla TWICE. In fact, keep doing it until you get an 
error message saying that mozilla is not installed. After that, a rpm 
--rebuilddb is probably a good thing. Now you can install Mozilla 
(try this: rpm -Uvh /var/cache/grpmi/mozilla[TAB]- if there 
still is a copy of mozilla in the cache, and there should be, it will pick 
it up) cleanly and then install galeon on top of it. 

PS. you'll probably also need gnome-vfs
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Re: [newbie] Mozilla 0.9.4?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Randy Kramer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 can you or someone get me off this mailing list please!

You have to do it yourself.

See
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/UnsubscribingFromMailingLists.

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Re: [newbie] Install WinAMP using Wine

2001-12-20 Per discussione Michel Clasquin

On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:08, you wrote:
 I have installed Wine. And I try to install WinAmp (a Windows base
 program for playing MP3 file).
 When I open WinAmp SETUP.EXE with Wine, its oke until error message Can
 not make C:\Program Files\WinAmp directory

 What should I do?

Why exactly do you want to run winamp? There are plenty of mp3 players for 
Linux. XMMS will even run with winamp 2.xx skins. Perhaps if you told us 
what you are trying to do here we can tell you how to do it in Linux.

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Re: [newbie] smbfs windows directory

2001-12-20 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Gerald Waugh wrote:
 I am attempting to mount a windows drive
 
 mount -t smbfs -o username=uname,password=pass jerry//C /mnt/jerry
 
 I can access the drive using smbclient

Gerald,

See http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/SambaMount and try using
smbmount instead of mount.  (Maybe mount can work, I've been successful
with smbmount.)

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version

2001-12-20 Per discussione s

On Thursday 20 December 2001 10:10 am, you wrote:
 I am 12 (twelve) years experience Windows user 

augh, that's the problem!!  

 but only 6 months using
 Mandrake, and I hope Mandrake 8.2 (or 9.0 ??) will support:

 1. Change screen resolution directly in X Windows, rather Ctrl Alt +/-
   If I want to change my screen resolution, I should:
   a. Go to Mandrake Control Panel
   b. Access the Desktop then click on Screen Resolution
   c. Click the screen resolution that I want

You can, check under 'Display'

 2. Integrated Control Panel. Any setting should be access via Control
 Panel. ANY SETTING!

They just about are, especially since you can open a terminal too right in 
it.  Have you looked around in Mandrake Control Center?  

 3. No more stupid name xyx -123-.RPM. Just use install.exe. Paket
 name will be like this:
   a. \mnt\cdrom\startoffice\install.exe
   b. \mnt\cdrom\kde3.0\install.exe
   c. \mnt\cdrom\koffice2.0\install.exe

some are just about as easy, like:  install.sh.  But you might as well forget 
it for the rest.   The majority will always have to indicate architecture, 
package type and version.


 4. Worsktation is NOT Server!

No, but alot people who buy mandrake like having all of these things 
available.  You never know when you might want to fire up a web or mail 
server from home. I appreciate all that stuff being there, even if I don't 
use it right now.  And the people purchasing it for their servers, like to 
have a little eye candy once in a while.
They aren't going to make a seperate distro for each.  If you checked other 
distros, you will find the same, as is the tradition of linux distributions.  
Just install what you want.  Did you bother to check out the individual 
package list during install?


 That's not ALL, I still THINKING what I want for New Mandrake, but sorry, I
 can't do the revision because I have very limited Linux knowledge. I am
 JUST A USER not the CREATOR. Sorry, if my opinion TOO IDEAL???

 Thanks all


what's ideal to you, isn't ideal for everyone.  Why don't you check out:
http://www.redmondlinux.org/

I don't usually try to sway people towards another distro, but in this case I 
think it might be appropriate.

-s




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Re: [newbie] Some opinion for Mandrake Website

2001-12-20 Per discussione Ed Tharp

On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:54, you wrote:
 Below are my opinions about Mandrake.com web site:

 1. The website size make problem on 800x600 screen. Too width. I should
 scroll the bar. Possible to make website that have automatic adjusment when
 running on 800x600 or 1024x768?
 2. Try to print any document, you will find the left side not printed. The
 webmaster should make any adjusment when user try to print some thing on A4
 paper, I think only limited user print on A3 paper or using landscape
 format, aren't you?
 3. The bar menu Main Pages - Feature - Screenshots  too width. And,
 hey .. nothing below Security - Contact bar menu.
 4. Try to open any related site,i.e Mandrake Campus. You will find
 different format. Look like no integrated page format between the related
 site, look like come from different linux product.

 Sorry, if my opinion too early, but I dream the website will be better,
 to show the Mandrake Class .. VIP?.

well Windy, differnt websites appear differnt in diffenent web browsers. just 
as you might find M$ websites might even refuse to load on a browser that is 
NOT Internet explorer, so might Mandrake's website look better in a browser 
loaded thru Linux.. while I agree that the theme would be better with a 
unfied (php?) design, these things (as most websites) or constitly changing 
and so might show some (I consider to be slight) differences. I also noticed 
that hotmail and M$ support are not the same either. did you Give Uncle Billy 
a jingle and let him know you would like the repaired?

 (the following message from Ed's keyboard: SLAP -damn Ed, you said you were 
going to work on not being so damn sarcastic Windy is a nice person, 
leave her alone. /end keyboard speaking) 
The keyboard is correct, I am a ba$tard some times, and my wife even said I 
can admit it. 
But really, ditch the M$ virus transport Lookout agent, and connect to the 
net in a non-virus supporting enviroment. 



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Re: [newbie] Install WinAMP using Wine

2001-12-20 Per discussione Bryan Tyson

On Thursday 20 December 2001 01:08, Wendy wrote:

 I have installed Wine. And I try to install WinAmp (a Windows base
 program for playing MP3 file).

What's wrong with xmms?

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Re: [newbie] FTP help please

2001-12-20 Per discussione Mark Weaver

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:51:52 -0800
Mithrilhall2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words to ponder:

 # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at.
 Usereric
 Grouperic

I've sent along a copy of my config file. I spotted the problem in yours. you've got 
the server's user and group set incorrectly. check how i've got them set in mine.
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[newbie] Sharing a PPPoE connection

2001-12-20 Per discussione Glenn Cannon

I am using an Ameritech ADSL connection to access the internet from a
Mandrake 7.1 machine.  However, it does not want to connect correctly.  It
tells me I need to reconfigure the connection and try again.

Can anyone point me to a good set of docs on how to setup a PPPoE connection
manually rather than by using drakconf?

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] smbfs windows directory

2001-12-20 Per discussione Richard Wenninger

On Thursday 20 December 2001 10:50 am, you wrote:
 Sorry for a lame question, but I did search for an answer

 I am attempting to mount a windows drive

 mount -t smbfs -o username=uname,password=pass jerry//C /mnt/jerry

 I can access the drive using smbclient

Try this...

mount -t smbfs -ousername=uname //jerry/C /mnt/jerry

it will prompt you for the password.




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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version

2001-12-20 Per discussione civileme

On Thursday 20 December 2001 10:01 am, s wrote:
 On Thursday 20 December 2001 10:10 am, you wrote:
  I am 12 (twelve) years experience Windows user

 augh, that's the problem!!

  but only 6 months using
  Mandrake, and I hope Mandrake 8.2 (or 9.0 ??) will support:
 
  1. Change screen resolution directly in X Windows, rather Ctrl Alt +/-
  If I want to change my screen resolution, I should:
  a. Go to Mandrake Control Panel
  b. Access the Desktop then click on Screen Resolution
  c. Click the screen resolution that I want

 You can, check under 'Display'

  2. Integrated Control Panel. Any setting should be access via Control
  Panel. ANY SETTING!

 They just about are, especially since you can open a terminal too right in
 it.  Have you looked around in Mandrake Control Center?

  3. No more stupid name xyx -123-.RPM. Just use install.exe. Paket
  name will be like this:
  a. \mnt\cdrom\startoffice\install.exe
  b. \mnt\cdrom\kde3.0\install.exe
  c. \mnt\cdrom\koffice2.0\install.exe

 some are just about as easy, like:  install.sh.  But you might as well
 forget it for the rest.   The majority will always have to indicate
 architecture, package type and version.

  4. Worsktation is NOT Server!

 No, but alot people who buy mandrake like having all of these things
 available.  You never know when you might want to fire up a web or mail
 server from home. I appreciate all that stuff being there, even if I don't
 use it right now.  And the people purchasing it for their servers, like to
 have a little eye candy once in a while.
 They aren't going to make a seperate distro for each.  If you checked other
 distros, you will find the same, as is the tradition of linux
 distributions. Just install what you want.  Did you bother to check out the
 individual package list during install?

  That's not ALL, I still THINKING what I want for New Mandrake, but sorry,
  I can't do the revision because I have very limited Linux knowledge. I am
  JUST A USER not the CREATOR. Sorry, if my opinion TOO IDEAL???
 
  Thanks all

 what's ideal to you, isn't ideal for everyone.  Why don't you check out:
 http://www.redmondlinux.org/

 I don't usually try to sway people towards another distro, but in this case
 I think it might be appropriate.

 -s
S is correct.  Redmond doesn't have a monopoly on ergonomics or on quality, 
and you are asking for the familiar, not the ideal.  Things are the way they 
are for a good and sufficient reason  (I am surprised you didn't ask for 
a virus checker, but that is one of the reasons; we don't even need one 
because the system is designed to defeat such exploits)

Still keep thinking, and while you do, explore the desktops available (there 
are 11 and they offer different feature/speed tradeoffs) and see that there 
are many ways to skin a cat.  When you tjink of a feature that would just be 
great, like an automated backup and single-click restore on config files so 
people can approach changing their systems without fear, then post and we 
will be listening.

.exe won't cut it for a system with 3000 base packages each of which can and 
does contain one or more programs and each of which may need to call other 
programs.  PeanutLinux is more what you are looking for, just 99Mb and only 
one desktop, but even there you have rpms and dependencies because programs 
are generally a compendium of small modules(which are standalone programs) 
instead of a huge monolith that obfuscates almost everything and is very hard 
to maintain.

http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version

2001-12-20 Per discussione Mark Weaver

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:10:25 +0700
Wendy Nexcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words to ponder:

 I am 12 (twelve) years experience Windows user but only 6 months using
 Mandrake, and I hope Mandrake 8.2 (or 9.0 ??) will support:
 
 1. Change screen resolution directly in X Windows, rather Ctrl Alt +/-
   If I want to change my screen resolution, I should:
   a. Go to Mandrake Control Panel
   b. Access the Desktop then click on Screen Resolution
   c. Click the screen resolution that I want
 
 2. Integrated Control Panel. Any setting should be access via Control Panel.
 ANY SETTING!
 
 3. No more stupid name xyx -123-.RPM. Just use install.exe. Paket
 name will be like this:
   a. \mnt\cdrom\startoffice\install.exe
   b. \mnt\cdrom\kde3.0\install.exe
   c. \mnt\cdrom\koffice2.0\install.exe

[snipped-for-sanity-sake]

Wendy,

This is Linux. not windows. it will never be windows and I seriously doubt it will 
ever do anything like windows. Some things you may find similar; some things you may 
find better; and yes, some things you may not like at all. However, Mandrake, or any 
Linux system will Never do the .exe thingy and RPMS are forever. 

don't like rpms?

use tarballs and do it the old fashioned way...

the *nix way.
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[newbie] gnomeConf not found???!!! what a fuck!!!!

2001-12-20 Per discussione Nicolas Gomez II

Hi folks I have an amazing and awesome problem!

When I try to compile and install any Gnome app, in the ./configure step it 
appears me an uncredible msg that says gnomeConf.sh not found that is 
created in the gnome-libs installation

I have Gnome installed, so I have Gnome-Libs Installed I don't 
understand anything now!


Thanks in advance

Nicolas Gómez
Montevideo, URUGUAY




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Re: [newbie] Sharing a PPPoE connection

2001-12-20 Per discussione Andy Flatt

From: Glenn Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Sharing a PPPoE connection
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:41:22 -0500

I am using an Ameritech ADSL connection to access the internet from a
Mandrake 7.1 machine.  However, it does not want to connect correctly.  It
tells me I need to reconfigure the connection and try again.

Can anyone point me to a good set of docs on how to setup a PPPoE 
connection
manually rather than by using drakconf?

Thanks,

Glenn Cannon


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roaringpenguin.com
Download and install the software (hopefully you have a way of doing 
that--its not large).  Its much easier/reliable than that bundled w/ 7.1,
I struggled w/ it for days before switching.  RP took me 10 minutes.

Andy Flatt

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Re: [newbie] emails

2001-12-20 Per discussione skinky

On Thursday 20 December 2001 20:27, chris swain wrote:

|  Hi all. I use Kmail for my mail program and mandrake 7.2.  Ive been having 
|  some strange problems where I have sent an email and it doesnt arrive 
|  until several days later.  The last incident I sent the mail on the 
|  16th and he recieved it on the 20th.

chris, its possible that its a problem with your isp.  I had the same 
problem about 6 weeks ago but it only lasted a few days then all was back 
to normal.  The only thing I could put it down to was that my isp was 
having problems.  Hopefully your problem will aslo solve itself soon!

skinky
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But what ... is it good for?
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commenting on the microchip)



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[newbie] mandrake 8.1 and mandrake-update

2001-12-20 Per discussione quaylar

hiho all

i just booted mandrake 8.1 again - after about 2 months of using windows2k 
i felt like
giving mandrake 8.1 again a try.
when i booted up 8.1 the first time after installing i was really pleased 
by the new kde 2.2 and all
the apps it came with.

just a few minutes ago i thought about applying all the security and bugfix 
updates - and i tried mandrake-update.

mandrake-update, it didnt work with 7.2 and 8.0 (at least for me) - i had 
thought that meanwhile mandrake
would have managed to get it working - but no.
i created a new source for the downloads - chose a server and i got a list 
of all the updates that were available.
so far so good - but :

1) why the hell is the window which lists all the updates so SMALL ?
on my screen the list of all the updates is about 2cm in height - with 
scrolling arrows next to it.
its not possible to resize the list - to see more packages at one time, 
so there are only about 5-8 visible at a time.
this is really annoying.
2) i choose the packages that i want upgraded - and it begins to search for 
the packages - after a while it replies an error
 occured while fetching package x
 a) why cant it tell WHICH error ??
 b) i made sure to use the correct server - i tried logging manually in 
the server - and i checked the proper directory - i
 also checked whether the regarding file was definitely on the 
server - and it was !
 despite of this mandrake-update isnt able to fetch the file - this SUCKS !
3) sometimes i am not able to start mandrake-update at all - it loads 
partially - leaving me with a grey main-window
 and its not possible to close it any more - so i have to kill it every 
time by opening a console - suing to root and then
 killing it by pid (if i want to kill it with the pid monitoring 
program under X i certainly get u are not permitted to kill this app
 - why cant it ask for the superuser-password allowing me to kill it 
out of X ?? - instead it forces me every time to open
a console and killing it as superuser - this is time-consuming, 
complicated and frustrating !)

now please dont tell me things like download the rpm file manually and 
install it using command line rpm
because i know how to handle rpm command line - but why use it if there is 
a X-utility that does it with a
few clicks ?
i know people are proud of being able to use console  - and i am too - but 
if there is the possibility to safe time and make
things easier and faster - why not use it ?

another thing i hate about the desktop-linux is that there is no browser 
that can view websites properly.
regardless which fonts/font-size/browser i use - i always get bad-looking 
fonts - not so smooth like ms-ie shows.

has anybody of u been able to get mandrake-update working - or to get a 
browser that shows smooth good looking fonts ?

dont misunderstand me - i like linux - and i am using a linux server that 
handles mail-dns-samba-antivir-ftp-telnet and so on.
but this is console - and it works well...
but what does not work - in my eyes - is the X-part of linuxso - are u 
experiencing the same problems i do - or is it just my lack of ability to 
get things working smooth under X ?
should i use gnome rather than KDE ? - are apps working better under gnome ??
i mean - regarding desktop-functions/programs windows is far superior to 
linux. i currently run win2k and it runs perfectly stable - all programs 
are running without any problems - under linux i am running into endless 
loops, requiring me a high amount of time to - for example - simply install 
a program (everybody of u knows : dependencies that require dependencies 
that requireetc.)
i can understand that this is frustrating newbies that use linux first time 
- as it does me - and i am using linux now for about 1.5 years. (although i 
was using more console than X)

so - please dont flame - we´re on the same side ;)
i am just really sick of non-working apps under X that *should* make life 
easyier - but dont do.

all suggestions/advices/opinions are welcome ;)

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[newbie] gateway/router help

2001-12-20 Per discussione ajax



I'm trying to set up a p200mmx 32mb ram as my 
gateway/router/firewall. I'm having some problems.
I'm using mdk8.1. I have one network card 
connected to my cable modem and one to my hub. The p200 can connect to the 
internet and can connect to my laptop. My laptop can connect to 
thep200 but can't get to the internet (can't ping ip addresses nor 
urls). I've tried to follow instructions on ip-tables but I seem to be 
missing something. I've also tried using the connection sharing through 
the mandrake control center but it tells me that it can't set up DHCP server 
package. I've checked and that is installed. I get the internet ip 
through dhcp. My internal ips are static. Anyone have any 
ideas?
Thanks


Re: [newbie] gateway/router help

2001-12-20 Per discussione Ed Tharp

you cann't have static IPs and use dhcp. dhcp is Dynamic and allocates IP#

On Thursday 20 December 2001 16:16, you wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a p200mmx 32mb ram as my gateway/router/firewall.  I'm
 having some problems. I'm using mdk8.1.  I have one network card connected
 to my cable modem and one to my hub.  The p200 can connect to the internet
 and can connect to my laptop.  My laptop can connect to the p200 but can't
 get to the internet (can't ping ip addresses nor urls).  I've tried to
 follow instructions on ip-tables but I seem to be missing something.  I've
 also tried using the connection sharing through the mandrake control center
 but it tells me that it can't set up DHCP server package.  I've checked and
 that is installed.  I get the internet ip through dhcp.  My internal ips
 are static.  Anyone have any ideas? Thanks



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Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Kelly McCormick

Thanks for the quick response civil!


 Nonstop, eh?


Err, ok, I guess I meant exclusively although the system does get a LOT of
usage, I do sleep once in a while! ;)


 I bet you slowly toasted the on-board electrolytic capacitors so that they
 dried out.  Try  a bigger case fan to keep it a little cooler inside.


I'm sure this couldn't hurt, but the marathon Quake3 sessions that I used to
put this box through under windoze never seemed to cause a problem. Since
replacing the first MB the heaviest workout this thing has seen is running
mozilla, and windoze98 before I installed Mandrake.

 Of course memtest-x86.bin is on the mandrake CD under images/ and you can
dd
 it or rawrite it to floppy and maybe it will boot and test your memory
just
 to be safe.


Bootup never makes it to accessing the floppy, not an option.

 What are the dead symptoms?  Are fans running or nothing at all?  If
nothing
 at all, it can be a shorted cap or other short on the mobo or the power
 supply.  If fans run, look for a dead video card or processor or a bad
cap.


At powerup, fans are on, power is getting to both hard drives, dvd, and
cdrom. Can't tell if floppy drive has power. Monitor powers up but stays
black most of the time, once in a while will make it to dell splash screen .
Keyboard and mouse both show signs of life, but nothing else.
Indicator lights on back say that the bios, memory, pci/isa bus, and
video card all failed.

SNIP-
 and after a month of rest the dells were supplied with whatever trash
disks
 hardware testing happened to have and they recognized them.  Even the
third
 Dell from a different user which died in exactly the same way--no
recognition
 of hard drive was OK after a month off and with a different hdd.  How that
 happened is that I took the three back to purchasing and the agent there
 wanted more detail on what was wrong and sent them to hardware testing
after
 a month.

That's strange, noticed something similar the first time I had this problem,
system would boot up after letting it sit powered down for a full day or
two, but would soon go into a self rebooting loop and eventually not boot.
I'm afraid I'm not patient enough to try waiting a month though. lol

 SO you may have that problem...  If you have another computer what happens
if
 you swap hard drives between the two?


Hard drives are fine, checked that, they are simply not even being accessed
at power up.

 Civileme
 QA Team


I guess what I'm looking for is any possible reason why mandrake would put
more stress on my MB than windoze? I can't afford to keep replacing the MB
after the warranty on this thing runs out, and every time I try running
linux on it I end up with MB problems. I'd hate to be stuck in windoze hell
because of this.

One thing that seems like a potential suspect is the power management
feature. I never use this in win98 since it just resulted in a locked up
system, but have been using it in mandrake. (for those occasions when I do
sleep) When my monitor goes into standby mode, the indicator light on the
front is supposed to turn from green to amber, instead it blinks back and
forth between the two. Also I have seen one of the monitors adjustment
screens pop up briefly on a few occasions. Doesn't stay long enough to tell
which one. Is it possible that power management is actually constantly
turning the monitor off and on and so burning up something on the MB? Or am
I just grasping at straws here?

Thanks in advance,
Kelly




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Re: [newbie] gateway/router help

2001-12-20 Per discussione TiMEv01
can you please tell me how to get off this mailing group. there is to much mail coming to me 


Re: [newbie] mandrake 8.1 and mandrake-update

2001-12-20 Per discussione Derek Jennings



 1) why the hell is the window which lists all the updates so SMALL ?
 on my screen the list of all the updates is about 2cm in height - with
 scrolling arrows next to it.
 its not possible to resize the list - to see more packages at one time,
 so there are only about 5-8 visible at a time.
 this is really annoying.

True the default window size is small, but if you grab that little grey box 
at the bottom right of the window you can drag it out and resize it.


 2) i choose the packages that i want upgraded - and it begins to search for
 the packages - after a while it replies an error
  occured while fetching package x

Yes that seems to happen. Some mirrors seem to be considerably worse than 
others. sourceforge for example has always given me trouble in that respect. 
Since I switched to sunite.se, I have had no trouble.

  despite of this mandrake-update isnt able to fetch the file - this
 SUCKS ! 3) sometimes i am not able to start mandrake-update at all - it
 loads partially - leaving me with a grey main-window

I find just getting a few files at a time has more chance of success than a 
mega upgrade.


 another thing i hate about the desktop-linux is that there is no browser
 that can view websites properly.
 regardless which fonts/font-size/browser i use - i always get bad-looking
 fonts - not so smooth like ms-ie shows.

Well my fonts look terrific, on my desktop and in all my browsers, Konqeuror, 
Opera, and Galeon,  and I wonder why yours does not. 

 One thing might be worth checking. If you open kde Control 
CenterLookNFeelFonts
Open up the drop down list of fonts. If you do not see adobe-helvetica, and 
mdk-helvetica in that list, then you may be suffering from a KDE 'bug' I had 
myself recently. The symptoms would be really ugly fonts, and the font 
appearance would improve if I disabled alti-aliasing in kde.

The fix is simply to delete the file ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
Next time I logged in the file got created again, and my fonts became 
beautiful with every font appearing in the list.



 has anybody of u been able to get mandrake-update working - or to get a
 browser that shows smooth good looking fonts ?

Yes and yes

 dont misunderstand me - i like linux - and i am using a linux server that
 handles mail-dns-samba-antivir-ftp-telnet and so on.
 but this is console - and it works well...
 but what does not work - in my eyes - is the X-part of linuxso - are u
 experiencing the same problems i do - or is it just my lack of ability to
 get things working smooth under X ?

Could it be a video card deficiency? My fonts look great in all 3 of my 
computers, one with Geforce256, one with Geforce2MX, and the 3rd a crummy old 
laptop with heaven knows what graphics chip.

HTH

derek



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Re: [newbie] smbfs windows directory

2001-12-20 Per discussione Gerald Waugh

On Thursday 20 December 2001 13:24, Randy Kramer wrote:
 Gerald Waugh wrote:
  I am attempting to mount a windows drive
 
  mount -t smbfs -o username=uname,password=pass jerry//C /mnt/jerry
 
  I can access the drive using smbclient

 Gerald,

 See http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/SambaMount and try using
 smbmount instead of mount.  (Maybe mount can work, I've been successful
 with smbmount.)


Thanks Randy, 
]
this worked
smbmount  //jerry/C /mnt/jerry -o  password='passeord'

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Re: [newbie] smbfs windows directory

2001-12-20 Per discussione Gerald Waugh

On Thursday 20 December 2001 14:50, Richard Wenninger wrote:
 On Thursday 20 December 2001 10:50 am, you wrote:
  Sorry for a lame question, but I did search for an answer
 
  I am attempting to mount a windows drive
 
  mount -t smbfs -o username=uname,password=pass jerry//C /mnt/jerry
 
  I can access the drive using smbclient

 Try this...

 mount -t smbfs -ousername=uname //jerry/C /mnt/jerry

 it will prompt you for the password.

Hey, you guys are fantastic.
This worked also smbmount  //jerry/C /mnt/jerry -o  password='my_password'
Two correct answers, and both completely different. Ahhh the wonders of Linux.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version

2001-12-20 Per discussione Lee Roberts

At 01:08 PM 12/20/2001 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:

thingy and RPMS are forever. 


Nothing is forever.  :-D




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Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

2001-12-20 Per discussione tester

On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 11:17, Kelly McCormick wrote:
 Thanks for the quick response civil!
 
 
  Nonstop, eh?
 
 
 Err, ok, I guess I meant exclusively although the system does get a LOT of
 usage, I do sleep once in a while! ;)
 
 
  I bet you slowly toasted the on-board electrolytic capacitors so that they
  dried out.  Try  a bigger case fan to keep it a little cooler inside.
 
 
 I'm sure this couldn't hurt, but the marathon Quake3 sessions that I used to
 put this box through under windoze never seemed to cause a problem. Since
 replacing the first MB the heaviest workout this thing has seen is running
 mozilla, and windoze98 before I installed Mandrake.
 
  Of course memtest-x86.bin is on the mandrake CD under images/ and you can
 dd
  it or rawrite it to floppy and maybe it will boot and test your memory
 just
  to be safe.
 
 
 Bootup never makes it to accessing the floppy, not an option.
 
  What are the dead symptoms?  Are fans running or nothing at all?  If
 nothing
  at all, it can be a shorted cap or other short on the mobo or the power
  supply.  If fans run, look for a dead video card or processor or a bad
 cap.
 
 
 At powerup, fans are on, power is getting to both hard drives, dvd, and
 cdrom. Can't tell if floppy drive has power. Monitor powers up but stays
 black most of the time, once in a while will make it to dell splash screen .
 Keyboard and mouse both show signs of life, but nothing else.
 Indicator lights on back say that the bios, memory, pci/isa bus, and
 video card all failed.
 
 SNIP-
  and after a month of rest the dells were supplied with whatever trash
 disks
  hardware testing happened to have and they recognized them.  Even the
 third
  Dell from a different user which died in exactly the same way--no
 recognition
  of hard drive was OK after a month off and with a different hdd.  How that
  happened is that I took the three back to purchasing and the agent there
  wanted more detail on what was wrong and sent them to hardware testing
 after
  a month.
 
 That's strange, noticed something similar the first time I had this problem,
 system would boot up after letting it sit powered down for a full day or
 two, but would soon go into a self rebooting loop and eventually not boot.
 I'm afraid I'm not patient enough to try waiting a month though. lol
 
  SO you may have that problem...  If you have another computer what happens
 if
  you swap hard drives between the two?
 
 
 Hard drives are fine, checked that, they are simply not even being accessed
 at power up.
 
  Civileme
  QA Team
 
 
 I guess what I'm looking for is any possible reason why mandrake would put
 more stress on my MB than windoze? I can't afford to keep replacing the MB
 after the warranty on this thing runs out, and every time I try running
 linux on it I end up with MB problems. I'd hate to be stuck in windoze hell
 because of this.
 
 One thing that seems like a potential suspect is the power management
 feature. I never use this in win98 since it just resulted in a locked up
 system, but have been using it in mandrake. (for those occasions when I do
 sleep) When my monitor goes into standby mode, the indicator light on the
 front is supposed to turn from green to amber, instead it blinks back and
 forth between the two. Also I have seen one of the monitors adjustment
 screens pop up briefly on a few occasions. Doesn't stay long enough to tell
 which one. Is it possible that power management is actually constantly
 turning the monitor off and on and so burning up something on the MB? Or am
 I just grasping at straws here?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Kelly
 
 
 
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Ummm, I think that is a straw.  It is likely a BIOS bug...  Try disconnecting 
everything but floppy and then downloading the most recent BIOS from DELL and seeing 
if you can flash it, assuming you have access to a computer to do those things (That's 
a use [finally] for internet cafes besides good coffee).
The Dells we had would _never_ recognize the original drives again, and we were using 
Optiplex GX-110, which is supposed to be one of their better products.

We do have to remember that Dell is under the same stress as the others for 
cost-sensitivity and therefore is forced to cut corners to stay alive.  I know the 
floppies on those models are so cheap, they cannot even report the size of mounted 
media.

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Re: [newbie] smbfs windows directory

2001-12-20 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Gerald Waugh wrote:
 Thanks Randy,
 ]
 this worked
 smbmount  //jerry/C /mnt/jerry -o  password='passeord'

You're welcome, and thanks for the feedback.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 Features or 9.0 version, OT now

2001-12-20 Per discussione Ed Tharp

On Thursday 20 December 2001 17:15, you wrote:
 At 01:08 PM 12/20/2001 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote:
 thingy and RPMS are forever.

 Nothing is forever.  :-D

wow how zen like of you... deep. the temporaryness of it all... I 
love it...



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RE: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Jose M. Sanchez

Can you say Ground Fault?

If you are finding that you have to keep replacing electronic components
associated with a computer, and have external devices plugged in, the
FIRST thing you should look for is a ground fault.

It is likely that this is shorting out your motherboards over the course
of a few days/weeks it takes to degrade the CAPs via the ground fault
assault.

Make sure that ALL of the devices plugged into your computer are in turn
plugged into the SAME power strip with proper plug polarity observed.

If you have a LAN, TV-TUNER, Printer, etc. which connects elsewhere
also be sure that it's not to blame.

A 9-20 volt fault leakage may not burn your computer out in a day, but
it will over time causing exactly the type of problem you are seeing...
I.E. a few weeks of use the a new motherboard.

Just a though.

-JMS


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On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 11:17, Kelly McCormick wrote:
 Thanks for the quick response civil!
 
 
  Nonstop, eh?
 
 
 Err, ok, I guess I meant exclusively although the system does get a 
 LOT of usage, I do sleep once in a while! ;)
 
 




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Re: [newbie] gateway/router help

2001-12-20 Per discussione ajax

Thanks for the reply,

Isn't it possible to use dhcp for the internet and static for the internal
network?

- Original Message -
From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] gateway/router help


 you cann't have static IPs and use dhcp. dhcp is Dynamic and allocates IP#

 On Thursday 20 December 2001 16:16, you wrote:
  I'm trying to set up a p200mmx 32mb ram as my gateway/router/firewall.
I'm
  having some problems. I'm using mdk8.1.  I have one network card
connected
  to my cable modem and one to my hub.  The p200 can connect to the
internet
  and can connect to my laptop.  My laptop can connect to the p200 but
can't
  get to the internet (can't ping ip addresses nor urls).  I've tried to
  follow instructions on ip-tables but I seem to be missing something.
I've
  also tried using the connection sharing through the mandrake control
center
  but it tells me that it can't set up DHCP server package.  I've checked
and
  that is installed.  I get the internet ip through dhcp.  My internal ips
  are static.  Anyone have any ideas? Thanks








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[newbie] adsl problems

2001-12-20 Per discussione Rodrigo Monteiro

hi folks !!!

i've got an adsl conection in my Mandrake 8.1. I get
conected but cannot navigate  
Can you help-me? 

i'm loosing my hair over that !please help-me

thankss

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Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Thursday 20 December 2001 01:18 am, Kelly McCormick wrote:
 Ok, maybe it's just a coincidence, but I have a less than 2
 year old Dell Dimension XPS T550 that just crapped out it's second
 motherboard. It first started having problems after I'd had it
 about 3 months and decided to try out Mandrake 7.2 within three or
 four weeks it started having problems booting. To make a long story
 a little shorter after about a year of reformats, and nursing, and
 complaining to Dell, I convinced myself and Dell support that it
 was the mother board. I replaced it, and like magic all problems
 went away. About a month ago, I decided that my system had been
 relatively stable for too long and decided to give linux another
 try. I installed Mandrake 8.1. I have been using it continuously
 for the last four weeks and was really starting to enjoy it.
 Unfortunately this morning my system is once again dead.
 Motherboard again appears to have crapped out. Now personally I
 have a hard time believing that linux had anything to do with it,
 but both times I had been running linux nonstop for approx 1 month
 when the problems first appeared. I would be interested to hear any
 thoughts any of you may have on this.

   Problem is mostly Dell.  They buy so many mobo's from Intel that 
they have the hammer to tell Intel just how to make 'em. Hence 
they're not really Intel mobo's, but 'oem spec only' mobo's.  Many 
corners are cut, often features/hardware found in even low end retail 
boards, or Intel's 'regular' boards, are left off, and/or are of 
reduced quality (one good example is capacitors, both number and 
quality). A quality bios is not to be found. Probly a Phoenix oem 
spec only bios is used. 

   Retail Intel mobo's OTOH, while low performers and lack 
configurability, are mostly bulletproof when it comes to reliability 
and stabiltility.  This isn't really just a Dell problem (ie, cruddy 
motherboards, bios, et al). All large ready made vendors do the same 
thing, and it's not limited to just the mobo. All the components in 
ready made systems are 'oem spec only', aka 'proprietary'. As the 
audience for cheap (even if they aren't) ready made PC's increases, 
the quality of ready mades drops even further.  This has all been 
goin on longer than the 'less than two years' since your Dell was 
assembled.

   That said, your mobo problems probly result from the inferior spec 
mobo's and power supplies that Dell uses. Dell is also not renowned 
for payin much attention to case and heatsink cooling either. To save 
a buck or so, most Dell models don't even have fans on heatsinks that 
need one, or even heatsinks on some components that normally should 
have one, much less also with a fan (eg, video card).

Have you ever heard Intel advertise that they make mobo's for 
Dell?  I believe they tryin hide the fact.  I suspect it's also why 
Dell has been reluctant to move to AMD cpu's. The oem spec only 
boards they use will only marginally work with Intel cpu's. It's also 
why they only give lip service to providin an OS other than Windoze.

It's called WinTel, low quality components and even non-hardware 
that Windoze can run, sort'a kind'a.  So no, Mandrake didn't kill 
your mobo, Dell and Gates did.   .. YMMV

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Re: [newbie] Could Mandrake Kill My Motherboard?

2001-12-20 Per discussione Ed Tharp

On Thursday 20 December 2001 17:41, you wrote:
 Can you say Ground Fault?
I agree w/Jose, most likely problem. I have never seen (does not mean it 
don't happen) the MB toast from Linux, but it is worth noteing, in my opinion 
anyway, that you well can toast the monitor by driving it beyond it's specs. 
it will toast a few weeks after the change. ( I did two in four weeks time). 
An additional question, where you using the same (exact, not same model and 
make but the same physical box and serial number) hard drives with both MB?  



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Re: [newbie] mandrake 8.1 and mandrake-update

2001-12-20 Per discussione quaylar

At 21:47 20.12.2001 +, you wrote:


hi derek,




 
  1) why the hell is the window which lists all the updates so SMALL ?
  on my screen the list of all the updates is about 2cm in height - with
  scrolling arrows next to it.
  its not possible to resize the list - to see more packages at one time,
  so there are only about 5-8 visible at a time.
  this is really annoying.

True the default window size is small, but if you grab that little grey box
at the bottom right of the window you can drag it out and resize it.


i can drag the overall window ? - but not the small list of packages ?
hmmi will give this a try




  2) i choose the packages that i want upgraded - and it begins to search for
  the packages - after a while it replies an error
   occured while fetching package x

Yes that seems to happen. Some mirrors seem to be considerably worse than
others. sourceforge for example has always given me trouble in that respect.
Since I switched to sunite.se, I have had no trouble.


yes i thought of that too and tried mirrors in austria, germany, france and 
the sunsite mirror u spoke of.
the only package which i was able to download was the mozilla upgrade - 
nothing else worked.



   despite of this mandrake-update isnt able to fetch the file - this
  SUCKS ! 3) sometimes i am not able to start mandrake-update at all - it
  loads partially - leaving me with a grey main-window

I find just getting a few files at a time has more chance of success than a
mega upgrade.


u r right - but i didnt do a mega-upgrade.
for example i tried to upgrade samba-client and server - and 
mandrake-update came up with a bunch
of about 8 packages which the samba packages were depending on.
i also tried to select just single packages - which didnt work tooi 
think the mandrake-update app
is simply not ready for use...



 
  another thing i hate about the desktop-linux is that there is no browser
  that can view websites properly.
  regardless which fonts/font-size/browser i use - i always get bad-looking
  fonts - not so smooth like ms-ie shows.
 
Well my fonts look terrific, on my desktop and in all my browsers, Konqeuror,
Opera, and Galeon,  and I wonder why yours does not.

  One thing might be worth checking. If you open kde Control
CenterLookNFeelFonts
Open up the drop down list of fonts. If you do not see adobe-helvetica, and
mdk-helvetica in that list, then you may be suffering from a KDE 'bug' I had
myself recently. The symptoms would be really ugly fonts, and the font
appearance would improve if I disabled alti-aliasing in kde.


hmmi do have the adobe-helvetica and some other fonts - and i selected 
them in my browser but still some of my fonts
are so sharp edged if u know what i mean...
(i remember this KDE-Bug, i had to install a fonts package when i was 
dealing with this problem in version 7.1 i think)
but i could try to disable anti-aliasing - didnt find this option yet - 
where is it ?



The fix is simply to delete the file ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
Next time I logged in the file got created again, and my fonts became
beautiful with every font appearing in the list.



  has anybody of u been able to get mandrake-update working - or to get a
  browser that shows smooth good looking fonts ?
 
Yes and yes

  dont misunderstand me - i like linux - and i am using a linux server that
  handles mail-dns-samba-antivir-ftp-telnet and so on.
  but this is console - and it works well...
  but what does not work - in my eyes - is the X-part of linuxso - are u
  experiencing the same problems i do - or is it just my lack of ability to
  get things working smooth under X ?

Could it be a video card deficiency? My fonts look great in all 3 of my
computers, one with Geforce256, one with Geforce2MX, and the 3rd a crummy old
laptop with heaven knows what graphics chip.


hmm-.i use a geforce2 pro - and it was recognized by the 
mandrake-installer with no probs...



HTH

derek

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[newbie] Just to let you know

2001-12-20 Per discussione Bob B. Bomar



I have been using FreeBSD for about a year now, and 
I love it. I wanted to see what the major diffrences between BSD and Linux 
for my self. I am impressed by the graphic install, though, I am used to 
the text install of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. I will admit that it is 
easier to install, but the FreeBSD install gives a little more control over what 
and where you install everything, but that is a problem with those who do not 
understand what is going on. Iam impressed to Mandrakes ability to have an 
easy installer. I do think that Mandrake is a contender for the Desktop OS 
if people will rid them selves of ignorance and open their eyes.

Bob Bomar


Re: [newbie] gateway/router help

2001-12-20 Per discussione Ed Tharp

sure, but the internet connection sharing in Mandrake is wanting to setup 
DHCP for the client boxes. My guess is that they did that to be as 
compativle with windos internet sharing as possible.

On Thursday 20 December 2001 17:57, you wrote:
 Thanks for the reply,

 Isn't it possible to use dhcp for the internet and static for the internal
 network?

 - Original Message -
 From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] gateway/router help

  you cann't have static IPs and use dhcp. dhcp is Dynamic and allocates
  IP#
 
  On Thursday 20 December 2001 16:16, you wrote:
   I'm trying to set up a p200mmx 32mb ram as my gateway/router/firewall.

 I'm

   having some problems. I'm using mdk8.1.  I have one network card

 connected

   to my cable modem and one to my hub.  The p200 can connect to the

 internet

   and can connect to my laptop.  My laptop can connect to the p200 but

 can't

   get to the internet (can't ping ip addresses nor urls).  I've tried to
   follow instructions on ip-tables but I seem to be missing something.

 I've

   also tried using the connection sharing through the mandrake control

 center

   but it tells me that it can't set up DHCP server package.  I've checked

 and

   that is installed.  I get the internet ip through dhcp.  My internal
   ips are static.  Anyone have any ideas? Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Just to let you know

2001-12-20 Per discussione NDPTAL85
On Thursday, December 20, 2001, at 06:27 PM, Bob B. Bomar wrote:

I have been using FreeBSD for about a year now, and I love it.  I wanted to see what the major diffrences between BSD and Linux for my self.  I am impressed by the graphic install, though, I am used to the text install of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD.  I will admit that it is easier to install, but the FreeBSD install gives a little more control over what and where you install everything, but that is a problem with those who do not understand what is going on.  Iam impressed to Mandrakes ability to have an easy installer.  I do think that Mandrake is a contender for the Desktop OS if people will rid them selves of ignorance and open their eyes.
 
Bob Bomar


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Re: [newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!

2001-12-20 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 03:11 pm, Mark Weaver wrote:
 civileme wrote:
  Hmmm, where did this 80/15/5 rule come from?  My experience is
  that 93% of the time my computer has a problem, the problem has
  its hands on my keyboard.

 Civileme,

 The 80/15/5 rule hails from the venerable Tom Brinkman of Texas.
 But I'll by yours too. Tom's is a bit more forgiving on the user
 though.

 Mark

but you then quoted me wrong. My (rough) formula is 85% user 
mistakes, 15% hardware hiccups, and 5% software bugs. 'Course you 
must consider that I'm hopelessly addicted to overclocking and 
upgrading (cooker), so my figures might be somewhat skewed ; 

   Civileme, I believe bases his overview on actual statistics. An 
I'm sort'a inclined to agree with 'em, even tho I hate to admit that 
93% of the screwups are due to the user   'cause that's me ;)
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[newbie] SemiOT:-Was only a matter of time...

2001-12-20 Per discussione tester


Micrsoft Admits XP Security Flaw
By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Microsoft Corp. acknowledged several serious flaws
Thursday in its newest version of Windows, billed as the most secure
ever,
that allow hackers to steal or destroy a victim's data files across the
Internet or implant rogue computer software. It urged consumers to
quickly
install a free fix it offered.

A Microsoft official said the risk to consumers was unprecedented
because
the glitches allow hackers to seize control of all Windows XP (news -
web
sites) operating system software without requiring a computer user to do
anything except connect to the Internet.

...

The Windows XP problems affect a little-used feature that eventually
will
allow consumers to control high-tech household appliances using their
computers. Called ``universal plug and play,'' the feature is activated
by
design in every copy of Windows XP

Ah well, the price of controlling a toaster or solar curtains seems to
be high these days.  Now with XP zombie soldiers sporting full rawsocket
capabilities, script kiddies will be able to make all our lives
miserable, probably until IAPs and ISPs replace all their routers with
stateful firewalls, so they can detect and block spoofed IPs and strange
TCP packets.

Please recall nasty little comedies like this before you ask linux to be
more like windows.  Linux is the wayy it is to avoid these types of
problems, or to make them quickly discovered and fized.  The home
edition of XP makes every user privileged, and therefore the exploit
works well there where it would not if only one user had admin access.

Of course I have been known to use my computer for an alarm clock with
VigMeUp and some horrid electronic music, but I have never used it to
start my microwave or cook a steak! My coffeepot has its own CPU; so
does my thermostat and my VCR.

Civileme




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Re: [newbie] adsl problems

2001-12-20 Per discussione tester

On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 14:14, Rodrigo Monteiro wrote:
 hi folks !!!
 
 i've got an adsl conection in my Mandrake 8.1. I get
 conected but cannot navigate  
 Can you help-me? 
 
 i'm loosing my hair over that !please help-me
 
 thankss

Talk to your ISP and make sure the IP addresses of his nameservers are
entered into the ADSL configuration.  His DHCP isn't giving them to you
for some weird reason.

Civileme

 
 
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Re: [newbie] convert outlook express address books to Kmail format.

2001-12-20 Per discussione L.V.Gandhi

Now import gives option of kab version 1 only. No other option found.

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 08:31, Ed Tharp wrote:
 in kmail mail client window (default when first opened) file  import 
 chose the format, ?

 On Tuesday 18 December 2001 21:11, you wrote:
  Though some posts were there for converting mail to Kmail, how to convert
  outlook express address books to Kmail format.


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Re: [newbie] convert outlook express address books to Kmail format.

2001-12-20 Per discussione L.V.Gandhi

How to import from kspread into KAB? I didn't find an option in Kmail import.

On Wednesday 19 December 2001 17:30, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Well I've never used it, but I notice that kab  (KAddress Book has the
 ability to import from a kspread  spreadsheet, and of course kspread can
 import from Excel. SO the the question comes down to can Outlook export
 into Excel?

 Well I don't know since I have never used Outlook.  (I have never had an
 email virus either.  Coincidence? maybe)

 derek

 On Wednesday 19 December 2001 02:11, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
  Though some posts were there for converting mail to Kmail, how to convert
  outlook express address books to Kmail format.

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Re: [newbie] Modem causes mouse to be unistalled

2001-12-20 Per discussione Frank McKenna

Hi Ron,

Thanks but someone else was able to give the jumper settings for COM 2  IRQ
10.

Thanks for responding I really appreciate it

Frank McKenna

Difficulties increase the closer we approach our Goals

Plato ~ It takes a minute to have a crush on
someone,an hour to like someone and a day to love
someonebut it takes a lifetime to forget someone.

- Original Message -
From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem causes mouse to be unistalled


 Frank McKenna wrote:

  If anyone has a manual and can tell me what the jumper settings are it
would
  really be appreciated.
 
  TIA
  Frank McKenna

 Frank, I've got a Diamond Supra 56k internal ISA modem lying around
somewhere.
 (I used it in my first MB which had ISA slots - my current machine does
not -
 so I went with an external modem) I'm sure I've still got the manual (its
a
 fold out variety). What did you want to know about the jumper settings?
I'll
 try and look it up...

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[newbie] KDE3beta1

2001-12-20 Per discussione Florian

Hello i`m thinking of experimenting a little with kde3beta has anyone tried 
it? the only thing i don`t want to loose are my mails (especially the ones 
from this lovely list lol) im now using kmail on kde2.2.2. Are all the mail 
directory structures and kmail.rc files the same (means kde2.2.2 configs and 
dirs compatible with kde3beta) ?
If yes let me know it.
Thanx
Florian



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[newbie] my adsl/router problems fixed. Thanks

2001-12-20 Per discussione Mr.E.

I had similar problem as some other users. Was able to connect to Bellsouth DSL 
service with just my NIC card, but when I added new Linksys Router, I couldn't get 
online.

Thanks to users who pointed out that I should set default gateway to the Router's ip 
address 192.168.1.1

also, I set my PC's IP address to 192.168.1.2 (instead of leaving it at 10.0.0.1 or 
something) as someone elso suggested.  Then plugged in the domain name server IP's.

Back online! thanks.




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