Re: [newbie-it] pgp in chiaro [era Appuntilinux]
* miKe wrote: mi metto a cercare il motivo... Dal manuale di mutt pgp_clearsign_command Type: string Default: This format is used to create a clearsigned old-style PGP attachment. Note that the use of this format is strongly deprecated. Chi non fa uso della crittografia non ha la possibilita' di decifrare l'algoritmo e quindi gli tocca sorbirsi il geroglifico che incornicia il messaggio; potrebbe essere questo il motivo della raccomandazione? Mahh.. perche' no. forse eri in ferie, un pò di tempo addietro, l'antivirus di qualcuno ha identificato la tua firma come un codice maligno... chissà cosa ci fai passare per firma... ;-P Ehh si', ero in ferie; cosa mi tocca sentire.. povero me ;-(. Permettimi di dire comunque che in circolazione ci sono antivirus e.. antivirus e che in ogni caso non tutti ne fanno un uso corretto. Vabbe', ognuno corre i rischi che si sceglie.. io mi son scelto quello di non essere letto da qualcuno e sono in ogni caso pronto a cambiare strategia se ne vale la pena. mmm mi costringi a usare mutt.. ;-))) beh, davanti a quell'abbondanza avrei (quasi) accettato di provare ixxpì... ;PP Ma io lo so quanto e' grande quel tuo _quasi_!! dimmi solo se supporta il colore come pine e lo provo! Ma certo che supporta il colore, anzi se non ti limiti rischi di fare un Van Gogh. E pine lo supporta lo sfondo trasparente? E le firme digitali le _importa_ e decodifica al volo senza toccare nessun tasto? Dai mike, lo sai anche tu che l'alto livello di personalizzazione e' _uno_ dei pezzi forti di mutt. Indipendentemente da tutto sarei contento se tu provassi mutt per un semplice motivo: avrei (e non solo io) un punto di riferimento fidato e competente a cui rivolgermi per alcuni dettagli da affinare nella sua configurazione. Per ora ho trovato soddisfazione solo sulla lista di debian.org dove un gruppetto di maleintenzionati (zappagalattica e' naturalmente tra quelli) si da parecchio da fare. -- syd - LU 285930 * LM 167646 msg10997/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie-it] installazione da rete
At 17.35 25/01/2003 +0100, you wrote: - - Il portatile e` vecchio di 6 anni e non ha il lettore CD neanche esterno, come e cosa devo fare per fargli cercare di fare il boot da remoto?( userei un altro portatile con Linux installato per fargli vedere i CD d'installazione) - - Lei ha bisogno di usare Word e quindi ha necessita` di Open Office, che risorse minimi richiede? Nel suo caso e` meglio OO 1.0 o Star Office 5.2? Girera`? Tenete conto che il problema principale di questo computer e` di avere solo 500MByte di HD! Ho lo stesso problema con un vecchissimo portatil Texas Instrument recuperatpo dal cestino della spazzatura... :) Lo vorrei dare a mia cugina per la sua tesi. Ho preso in edicola una rivista (della quale non ricordo il nome... E' quella con il libro di Gimp in allegato..) All'interno c'è un articolo che parla delle minidistribuzioni, che sarebbero poi quello che sia io che te stiamo cercando Se non vuoi prendere la rivista dimmelo che ti passo i link. Ciao Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Problemi scheda audio
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, miKe wrote: mandaci il risultato di #lsmod Module Size Used byTainted: GF isofs 25792 0 (autoclean) inflate_fs 19328 0 (autoclean) [isofs] sr_mod 15160 0 (autoclean) tdfx 34008 1 agpgart31552 0 (autoclean) (unused) vmnet 22848 6 vmmon 20436 0 (unused) via82cxxx_audio18144 1 uart401 6336 0 [via82cxxx_audio] ac97_codec 9568 0 [via82cxxx_audio] sound 57292 0 [via82cxxx_audio uart401] soundcore 4068 4 [via82cxxx_audio sound] lp 6464 0 parport_pc 22088 1 parport23968 1 [lp parport_pc] af_packet 12488 1 (autoclean) usb-uhci 21668 0 (unused) usb-ohci 19072 0 (unused) usbcore59072 1 [usb-uhci usb-ohci] 3c59x 25928 1 (autoclean) nls_cp850 3584 2 (autoclean) vfat9788 2 (autoclean) fat31384 0 (autoclean) [vfat] supermount 62180 4 (autoclean) nls_iso8859-1 2816 3 (autoclean) ntfs 51744 1 (autoclean) rtc 5912 0 (autoclean) ext3 62092 4 jbd39356 4 [ext3] aic7xxx 114676 0 sd_mod 11512 1 scsi_mod 93244 3 [sr_mod aic7xxx sd_mod] credo che essendo stata riconosciuta la scheda, tu possa avere un /etc/modules.conf aggiornato, vediamolo un attimo alias usb-interface usb-ohci probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx alias eth0 3c59x alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio alias usb-interface1 usb-uhci alias usb-interface2 usb-uhci infine, prova a fare un caricamento manuale, in genere le via integrate, funzionano, ma non tutti i modelli sono supportati dal modulo via82cxxx #modprobe via82cxxx [root@atropo spirite]# modprobe via82cxxx modprobe: Can't locate module via82cxxx Provando invece: [root@atropo spirite]# modprobe via82cxxx_audio [root@atropo spirite]# Ho provato l'audio, ma ora xmms mi dice: Couldn't open audio. Please check that: 1. you have the correct audio plugin selected 2. no other programs is blocking the soundcard 3. your soundcard is configured properly Però non ho programmi aperti che potrebbero bloccare la soundcard... Naturalmente, il mixer l'ho controllato. Invece draksound e harddrake2 non li ho. Fanno forse parte della Mandrake 9.0? Nel caso, dite che mi si incasina tutto se aggiorno solo il pacchetto relativo (che immagino sia il drakconf)? Spero sappiate aiutarmi... Grazie, Chiara -- == Evitavo la vista degli uomini; ogni suono di gioia e di piacere era per me una tortura; la solitudine era la mia sola consolazione - una profonda, oscura, mortale solitudine. (M. Shelley)
Re: [newbie-it] scheda video ATI Rage 128 Pro
Alle 16:57, sabato 25 gennaio 2003, Giorgio Griffon ha scritto: Ho la stessa scheda, ed anch'io ho riscontrato questi problemi, che poi, all'atto pratico, sono di nessun conto. La 9.0 riconosce perfettamente la scheda; prendi in considerazione l'idea di upgradare il sistema. Vale. E' una ragione in più per fare il passaggio. Mmmmhhh... ora che ci penso? Qualche suggerimento per passare a mdk 9 senza reinstallare tutto quanto da zero? Grazie, ciao Giorgio C'è la upgrade, ma da quanto ho visto, tenuto conto delle Qt3 ed altre cosucce che creano uno scarto di continuità rispetto al passato, ti consiglio di fare lo sforzo. Vale. -- - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## -
Re: [newbie-it] Xvidtune
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Luigi wrote: non riesco a capire come funziona xvidtune se per esempio volessi impostare i seguenti valori per il monitor, come dovrei agire? freq. horiz. 46,9 khz freq. vert. 75,1 hz Premettendo che e' potenzialmente pericoloso e che bisogna essere sicuri che lo schermo supporti una certa frequenza ad una determinata risoluzione, per modificare la frequenza di refresh orizzontale e verticale ti basta premere i pulsanti per allargare/restringere e allungare/accorciare lo schermo. Prima di applicarli provali con 'test' Con tutta probabilita' l'immagine risultera' sballata e in parte non visibile, in tal caso ti bastera' ripremere i pulsanti dimensionali fino a quando non trovi una posizione soddisfacente. AFAIK l'impostazione fatta con xvidtune dura fino al successivo riavvio del server X, quindi per avere un'applicazione permanente penso che sia necessario inserire una riga di ModeLine nella sezione Monitor in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (quella che ti appare con il pulsante 'show' nel terminale di testo da cui hai avviato xvidtune). Dai un'occhiata anche a: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl anche se e' abbastanza criptico ... -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** k 2.4.20-acpi+preempt+lowlat+pktwrt Ma se si puo' essere spiati da internet a PC spento, com'e' che non riesco a lavorarci sconnesso dalla rete elettrica? ... *SBONK* #-)
Re: [newbie-it] scheda video ATI Rage 128 Pro
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Giorgio Griffon wrote: E' una ragione in più per fare il passaggio. Mmmmhhh... ora che ci penso? Qualche suggerimento per passare a mdk 9 senza reinstallare tutto quanto da zero? Neanche a farlo apposta, l'altro ieri ho fatto l'upgrade alla MDK 9.0 sul computer che usa mia sorella, con l'opzione Aggiornamento pacchetti ed e' andato tutto liscio (la modalita' di upgrade normale segnalava invece errori misteriosi su gcc-3.2x e kernel ... mah ...). Eventualmente di qualche file di configurazione critico (o che necessita di diverso tempo per essere messo a punto) ti converrebbe fare una copia. P.S.: resto cmq sempre perplesso quando vedo che le dipendenze, ancora una volta, sono state fatte col @#$%!. P.es. che c'entrano MySQL e postgreSQL con le librerie qt3 lo sanno solo loro ... va be' :S -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** k 2.4.20-acpi+preempt+lowlat+pktwrt Ma se si puo' essere spiati da internet a PC spento, com'e' che non riesco a lavorarci sconnesso dalla rete elettrica? ... *SBONK* #-)
Re: [newbie-it] è possibile il boot da zip parallelo?
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, carmine de pasquale wrote: vorrei configurare lilo (o grub) per far partire il sistema da iomega zip parallelo. dal mandrake control center, se provo ad aggiungere la riga indicando come partizione di boot /dev/sda, mi dà un errore e si rifiuta di salvare la riga. è possibile fare una cosa del genere in altro modo, o sto solo sprecando tempo? Premetto che non so come funziona quindi non posso essere piu' preciso, ma se provassi a modificare a mano /etc/lilo.conf o /boot/grub/menu.lst inserendo una serie di righe sul modello di quelle gia' presenti (nel caso di lilo, dando 'lilo -v', ovviamente)? non e' che e' necessario un numero dopo /dev/sda come root? e indicando come immagine /dev/sdaX/nome_img ? Prova ... -- GNU/Linux Slackware 9.0beta1 ** k 2.4.20-acpi+preempt+lowlat+pktwrt Ma se si puo' essere spiati da internet a PC spento, com'e' che non riesco a lavorarci sconnesso dalla rete elettrica? ... *SBONK* #-)
[newbie-it] Capability list
Cos'e' una capability list??? -- \ | / (@ @) -o00-(_)-00o Benedetto Santarella -- Home Page == http://utenti.lycos.it/santarellawebmaster/index.html Email : ( Per scrivermi togli -NOSPAM- ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] linux ripristinato perfettamente (spero, ma non vi auguro, possa servirve a qualcuno)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 04:45, domenica 26 gennaio 2003, carmine de pasquale ha scritto: grazie a mike e a chi ha sviluppato la iso di partimage (scaricata in 31'12 in isdn 64) ho potuto fare un hardbackup (non file per file, ma cluster per cluster) backup della partizione linux, tutto è bene... ;) piccolo bug, ho detto di salvare su /mnt/lin.gz, ma ha salvato come lin.gz.000, il che mi ha fatto venire una piccola crisi di panico. è normale partimage cerca di dividere su n dischi, raramente entra tutto in un cdrom panico quando al riavvio anzichè il lilo ho visto una serie infinita di 99 sullo schermo che scrollavano allegramente; il mbr non viene salvato, e comunque con i cambiamenti della tabella delle partizioni, lilo non sarebbe partito comunque, l'unica cosa è reinstallare il loader resta il problema del doppio avvio del KDE (dopo il boot si blocca il pennello), ma credo sia un bug di xinerama; con un sol monitor non lo fa hai i log di xfree e di kdm? a me xinerama e kde davano problemi con le impostazioni con un solo monitor potevo modificare, con 2 ad ogni riavvio avevo tutto da default, non ho indagato avendo messo il secondo monitor sul portatile... bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+NABaF/9fksDJ4y0RAm2dAKCjem86sEt+O8N1YLU693MLxJdp0wCeNC97 3sYINmfHmwuIhLlyGm1XNeU= =qOsL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] pgp in chiaro [era Appuntilinux]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 10:46, domenica 26 gennaio 2003, syd ha scritto: Dal manuale di mutt pgp_clearsign_command This format is used to create a clearsigned old-style PGP attachment. Note that the use of this format is strongly deprecated. Chi non fa uso della crittografia non ha la possibilita' di decifrare l'algoritmo e quindi gli tocca sorbirsi il geroglifico che incornicia il messaggio; potrebbe essere questo il motivo della raccomandazione? Mahh.. perche' no. molto probabile... non vedo motivi di sicurezza o altro... e non me ne vengono in mente altri chissà cosa ci fai passare per firma... ;-P Ehh si', ero in ferie; cosa mi tocca sentire.. povero me ;-(. era su un'altra lista, comunque beh, davanti a quell'abbondanza avrei (quasi) accettato di provare ixxpì... ;PP Ma io lo so quanto e' grande quel tuo _quasi_!! he he molto, molto dimmi solo se supporta il colore come pine e lo provo! Ma certo che supporta il colore, anzi se non ti limiti rischi di fare un Van Gogh. E pine lo supporta lo sfondo trasparente? si, si se vuoi vedere che accozzaglia cromatica ho sul server... lo uso senza x comunque, i colori sono _basilari_ .. ;) E le firme digitali le _importa_ e decodifica al volo senza toccare nessun tasto? Dai mike, lo sai anche tu che l'alto livello di personalizzazione e' _uno_ dei pezzi forti di mutt. ok, ok... Indipendentemente da tutto sarei contento se tu provassi mutt per un semplice motivo: avrei (e non solo io) un punto di riferimento fidato e competente a cui rivolgermi per alcuni dettagli da affinare nella sua configurazione. ah parakulen.. (troppo buono, non lo conosco quindi le info le chiederò io a te!!) Per ora ho trovato soddisfazione solo sulla lista di debian.org dove un gruppetto di maleintenzionati (zappagalattica e' naturalmente tra quelli) si da parecchio da fare. Ferdinando è un patitone di mutt, ok, lunedi sono in ufficio, e me lo compilo se ho problemi ti tartasso... bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+NAHGF/9fksDJ4y0RAkW7AJ9c7taHGqPA2Yrlcs7C+cwyylO4RwCgh2aJ fEp6C3FysbmBn0izKpy7mUY= =a8Cc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] ragazzi siete dei maghi pero'...
Alle Sunday 26 January 2003 03:36, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] ragazzi siete dei maghi pero'... (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), carmine de pasquale ha scritto: non so tu, ma io ricomincerei daccapo cominciando dal montaggio della tastiera... Ci avevo pensato come ultima risorsa, e l'ho fatto. Solo che stavolta azzerando il bios la scheda madre non mi ha dato schermo nero; ho comunque provato a staccare la CPU, riaccendere e spegnere, riattaccare la CPU, sempre a tastiera collegata. Nisba: non la vede ancora. Qualche idea? -- Arwan
Re: [newbie-it] installazione da rete
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 26 January 2003 13:21, you wrote: Ho lo stesso problema con un vecchissimo portatil Texas Instrument recuperatpo dal cestino della spazzatura... :) Lo vorrei dare a mia cugina per la sua tesi Ho preso in edicola una rivista (della quale non ricordo il nome... E' quella con il libro di Gimp in allegato..) All'interno c'è un articolo che parla delle minidistribuzioni, che sarebbero poi quello che sia io che te stiamo cercando... Se non vuoi prendere la rivista dimmelo che ti passo i link Ciao Andrea Mi farebbero comodo i link dato che ora sono in Germania... L'unico obbligo e` di riuscire ad installare Open Office perche' la mia amica e` costretta ad usare word( il suo prof le manda file in .doc!), per il resto qualsiasi distribuzione che resusciti il computer va piu` che bene! Grazie! - -- Le ballerine sono coraggiosissime! Quante donne conoscete in grado di gettarsi tra le braccia di un omossessuale sperando che lui le afferri? Rita Rüdner chiave pubblica disponibile sul keyserver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+NB7mTvJtVxCNwP4RAn5kAJ9uXbV7RscrffOnTwe49OarKk74UQCg03/K /MzAvGqSwNE4usmaiXqrhNk= =R1Yg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] è possibile il boot da zip parallelo?
- Original Message - From: LukenShiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] è possibile il boot da zip parallelo? Premetto che non so come funziona quindi non posso essere piu' preciso fanziona in emulazione scsi da porta parallela, quindi suppongo che debba caricare un driver prima del boot.
Re: [newbie-it] linux ripristinato perfettamente (spero, ma non vi auguro, possa servirve a qualcuno)
On Sunday 26 January 2003 4:45 am, carmine de pasquale wrote about [newbie-it] linux ripristinato perfettamente (spero, ma non vi auguro, possa servirve a qualcuno): ho quindi preso il cd 1 di mandrake, istallato in modalità esperto, dando annulla alle opzioni di config di mouse, tastiera, formatta, rete, serverx; istallato 1 sol pacchetto a caso La prossima volta ti basta (e' giusto anche quello che hai fatto tu ma e' piu' lento) mettere il cd1 e scrivere rescue. Ti appare un menu e tra le opzioni c'e' ripristina il boot loader (sia di linux che di win) bye -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: [newbie-it] un altro [ot] informatico
Alle Sunday 26 January 2003 12:42, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] un altro [ot] informatico (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), Pollo ha scritto: Io sto cercando proprio dei pc per fare dei corsi di informatica all'oratorio del mi paese, e insegnare a ragazzi e non che non esiste solo windows. Io sono del Novarese. Se sei in zona... Forse riesco a piazzare qui il PC che ho per le mani, in caso cmq io sono di Venezia, ma mi capita spesso di girare per il Piacentino o il Milanese. E' ancora troppo distante? I miei colleghi mi prendono in giro per questa mia idea: ma vivo proprio cosi' fuori dal mondo? Io penso che un po di altruismo faccia sempre bene! Gia', tanto piu' che non costa nulla! :-) Solo lo sforzo di cercare un po'... -- Arwan
Re: [newbie-it] linux ripristinato perfettamente (spero, ma non vi auguro, possa servirve a qualcuno)
- Original Message - From: freefred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] linux ripristinato perfettamente (spero, ma non vi auguro, possa servirve a qualcuno) On Sunday 26 January 2003 4:45 am, carmine de pasquale wrote about [newbie-it] linux ripristinato perfettamente (spero, ma non vi auguro, possa servirve a qualcuno): ho quindi preso il cd 1 di mandrake, istallato in modalità esperto, dando annulla alle opzioni di config di mouse, tastiera, formatta, rete, serverx; istallato 1 sol pacchetto a caso La prossima volta ti basta (e' giusto anche quello che hai fatto tu ma e' piu' lento) mettere il cd1 e scrivere rescue. Ti appare un menu e tra le opzioni c'e' ripristina il boot loader (sia di linux che di win) bye non era solo il bootloader, c'era un kernel panic che si è risolto. -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/ ICQ uin 5887365 - PGP key available on keyservers
Re: [newbie-it] è possibile il boot da zip parallelo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 17:43, domenica 26 gennaio 2003, carmine de pasquale ha scritto: fanziona in emulazione scsi da porta parallela, quindi suppongo che debba caricare un driver prima del boot. ho paura che ti serva un bios che supporti il boot da zip ho alcune schede madri che lo riportano tra le voci altrimenti serve un floppy di boot che poi passa la palla allo zip bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+NF5PF/9fksDJ4y0RAlnNAJ46bE/iaQWj6I5rzhMAqHG+gWe4ZgCgqAny YIzI7yCLLsRYorTgPn+PjeU= =GJAK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] è possibile il boot da zip parallelo?
Alle 23:16, domenica 26 gennaio 2003, miKe ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 17:43, domenica 26 gennaio 2003, carmine de pasquale ha scritto: fanziona in emulazione scsi da porta parallela, quindi suppongo che debba caricare un driver prima del boot. ho paura che ti serva un bios che supporti il boot da zip ho alcune schede madri che lo riportano tra le voci anche la mia, ma vale solo per zip ide altrimenti serve un floppy di boot che poi passa la palla allo zip bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+NF5PF/9fksDJ4y0RAlnNAJ46bE/iaQWj6I5rzhMAqHG+gWe4ZgCgqAny YIzI7yCLLsRYorTgPn+PjeU= =GJAK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie] cups problems
I have 2 linux boxes (mdk9) both using 2 printers on an NT box. on one box, trying to delete a print job with cups, no problems, on the other box, I get 'client-error-forbidden'. (even when logged on as root) I am also unable to delete some non-existant printers from both machines, they appear to delete, but when I reload, they are back again. anyone got any ideas (relevant of course) :) -- 7:00pm up 1:20, 2 users, load average: 1.02, 1.17, 1.14 A Parable of Modern Research: Bob has lost his keys in a room which is dark except for one brightly lit corner. Why are you looking under the light, you lost them in the dark! I can only see here. ..registered linux user #223862 .. _ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPEG2 to .AVI conversion
Ralph Slooten wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:44:22 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if the mpeg2 is a large .mpg file on the haddrive. What sort of command line would achieve conversion to .avi in mencoder ? Hiya John, Well, again you would need to know the bitrate required to get your final size (divxcalc for example). Then you would rip it just like you would a DVD, but instead of mencoder-dvd 1 options, you would mencoder mpeg_file options... nothing different ;-) Greetings Ralph Hi Ralph, Yes I thought so too, but the case I exampled is a large .mpg file derived from a uk terrestrial digital tv box . These devices have the facility to store the tv output onto your hard drive via a usb connection, admittadly in windblows with the aid of a piece of software, but it acts like a TV card programme.The file is then accessed in the usual linux/windblows fstab setup and processed. I tried something like , mencoder pathtosource file -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=633 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=96:cbr -o film.avi but all it did was complain something about mp3lamecodec or something not accessable. I guess the options are wrong. or else it does not like the pathtosource in that position. Any thoughts. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPEG2 to .AVI conversion
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:37:02 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ralph, Yes I thought so too, but the case I exampled is a large .mpg file derived from a uk terrestrial digital tv box . How big is ths file? There is always the problem with large files, and mplayer can be compiled with --enable-largefiles to enable file-support for over 2 gigs. I didn't find any config options for lame, so this may be mplayer-dependent or something. These devices have the facility to store the tv output onto your hard drive via a usb connection, admittadly in windblows with the aid of a piece of software, but it acts like a TV card programme.The file is then accessed in the usual linux/windblows fstab setup and processed. I tried something like , mencoder pathtosource file -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=633 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=96:cbr -o film.avi This seems right here, so I would think your mpeg file is over 2 Gigs? but all it did was complain something about mp3lamecodec or something not accessable. I guess the options are wrong. or else it does not like the pathtosource in that position. Any thoughts. Well, just see how big that mpeg is, and if I'm right, just recompile your mplayer with the --enable-largefiles, and you should be set (I believe) :-) Greetings Ralph -- http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Moving to HTTPS
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:17, Stefano Pogliani wrote: What should I do to start using HTTPS **in addition to** HTTP on my site ? I installed SquirrelMail in order to access to my mails from everywhere. But would like to do it in a secure way. So, I installed mod_ssl. In Konqueror, when using HTTPS, it issues some alert but allows me to continue. In Mozilla, this does not happen (I am not able to access my site using HTTPS). I had a quick look at the certificate and it speaks about something for testing only. Could someone point me to some HowTo or complete description of the process I should follow ? Thanks a lot in advance. Best regards /stefano You'll find the instructions for creating your own server certificate at http://www.apache-ssl.org/#FAQ under Now I've got my server installed, how do I create a test certificate? I tried restarting apache with # apachectl graceful and then opening my browser but it didn't work and I had to reboot - then all was well. I'm sure there is something else to restart to avoid rebooting but I don't know what - hopefully someone else can tell us? HTH Cheers Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Making own screensaver ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi friends, I have some pictures ( jpg,bmp png files ). In M$ Windows, I can create a screensaver with tool like 1st Screensaver Builder 1.0 (www.1stsb.com). Could I create a screensaver in linux without having programming skill ?. If we need programming language to build screensavers, what is the language ?. TIA. - -- Rifza Adriansyah Are you using GnuPG ? Find my public key at http://belgium.keyserver.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+M8IGH9VEhcXPGz4RAg8QAKCLnMxX1er3HNaxcR/IzC67EsH7IgCgu4Qy cHc1wz7iCjzfGaVDSJyXQb8= =x6bo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cups problems
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 8:36 am, Colin Jenkins wrote: I have 2 linux boxes (mdk9) both using 2 printers on an NT box. on one box, trying to delete a print job with cups, no problems, on the other box, I get 'client-error-forbidden'. (even when logged on as root) I am also unable to delete some non-existant printers from both machines, they appear to delete, but when I reload, they are back again. anyone got any ideas (relevant of course) :) I've had that often in the past. First reaction is to thrash about ;) However, IIRC the solution was to logout and login again - presumably it does some cleanup - after which they can be deleted. I'm not sure, though, whether I deleted in the cups admin program or KLpq - I think it would be the cups admin program. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
1/26/03 1:46:32 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Stephen's mail, d.d. 26 Jan 2003 12:21:17 +1100: What if there is a mercury switch in either the PSU or somewhere within the casing itself that would cause this? I have been thinking about this also, but I have not been able to find a switch like that. More and more I feel that this is a faulty contact/connector or something. I booted from a floppy and carefully started fiddling with the power cables to try and track a broken/nearly broken one. No luck there either. (Uptime now, PC still on the side, is 11.33 hours...) Paul -- Never lend books -- nobody ever returns them; the only books I have in my library are those which people have lent me. -Anatole France http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Here is a old trick that has been used for troubleshooting this type of problem since the dawn of time, long before PCs since just after the invention of the printed circuit board almost prehistoric. Get your self a brand new pencil with a big new pink eraser. Next just to be on the safe side wrap the metal cylinder that holds the eraser on the pencel with a wrap or 2 of electrical tape. Now you can use the eraser end of the pencil as a safe and effective probe It will be well insulated to avoid damage to components and the insulation will also protect you if the pencil should contact anything that is high voltage. The rubber eraser is also a great NON SLIP surface to probe components with and the pencil is thin enough to reach into tight spaces. use it to reach inside the machine while it is running and wiggle various parts and points near plug in connectors. Try to use the eraser to gently push down on parts to simulate the down ward force thet gravity would create while the machine is on its side and see where you have to push to make it work or lay the machine on its side and support it however necessory to alow you to gently push on parts and see where you need to push to make it stop running. This should help to pinpoint the problem. You may find that it is not a bad connection or intermittent short but a cracked circuit trace on a board, a pain in the butt to repair if that ends up being the case. Another use for the pencil eraser is if you find a suspect connector you can use the eraser to clean contacts to remove oxides or dirt that can cause this type of problem. The eraser is mildley abrasive and will pollish up and clean edge connectors on a circuit board fast and easy. Good luck, these intermittant problems can be a mind bender. Marc Gee this was fun I think that now I may write a book and call it A Thousand And One Uses For The Number Two Pencil, I am shure it will be a best seller Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re:Back to Basics
After beating my head against a brick wall for quite some time now, I've realised that I have to go back to basics to fully understand the concepts and mechanics of the Computer and how the various Operating Systems communicate with the hardware and then I might be able to learn the various languages programs that control the processes that I'm trying to understand. I've always been a person that wants the quick fix, I wanted to operate this linux OS straight away, but it just doesn't happen like that. To fully understand linux or any operating system for that matter, I believe that you have to understand how the Computer in it's entirety works. I didn't even know that for any program to run, it first has to be in the systems memory and I'm learning lots of new stuff every day. Some of it is really boring, but I think I'm going to be better off in the long run instead of trying to take the quick way or short cut around things. If this is going to close down, I'll be around on some other linux board,but by then I'll probably have a handle.(Maybe) PS. Contemplating a move to debian...any comments? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics
I think asking questions here is about the best way to learn what ever you don't know about computers and OSs, no question too dumb to be answered by more questions. I would stay right here, and if one day we disappear (heaven forbid) instead of debian or RH (they seem, to me anyway, to be not as tolerant of neophytes as we are here) consider yopa. it is a new distro for th desktop, and while I have not yet had a chance to check it out, it comes highly recomended by folks I have learned to trust. On this list, I think it was YAMA, Sridhar Dhanapalani, that thought this was a good distro, and every other bit of advice he gave was right on the money. On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:18 pm, Graham Pohle wrote: After beating my head against a brick wall for quite some time now, I've realised that I have to go back to basics to fully understand the concepts and mechanics of the Computer and how the various Operating Systems communicate with the hardware and then I might be able to learn the various languages programs that control the processes that I'm trying to understand. I've always been a person that wants the quick fix, I wanted to operate this linux OS straight away, but it just doesn't happen like that. To fully understand linux or any operating system for that matter, I believe that you have to understand how the Computer in it's entirety works. I didn't even know that for any program to run, it first has to be in the systems memory and I'm learning lots of new stuff every day. Some of it is really boring, but I think I'm going to be better off in the long run instead of trying to take the quick way or short cut around things. If this is going to close down, I'll be around on some other linux board,but by then I'll probably have a handle.(Maybe) PS. Contemplating a move to debian...any comments? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday 26 January 2003 02:43 am, Paul wrote: In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:56:31 +: knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful. if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after first. #1 = power supply: does fan stop? No, it keeps going. do you lose all voltages? No. There is still power on the mainboard led and the leds of the network cards. #2 = heat: are you testing with covers on or off? Both. Same result. do you have good air circulation? cpu have correct heat sink and fan? Yes and yes. is memory over heating? No, it is not. I cannot imagine that it does. I can leave the PC off for 2 hours, which should be enough to cool off most parts. When I switch the PC on in the upright position (and refrain from smoking ;) it stops within 2 minutes. The hybernate led starts blinking and that's it. Which really is weird, since I have the BIOS set to never go into hybernate. does mainboard have heat sensors? Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm). The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows 29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in Gkrellm correctly, but this is what I also could see (plus or minus a few degrees) when then machine was still upright. So no change there. #3 = harddisk: is drive new? if used, was it previously mounted flat or on side? The drives (2 x 30Gb ata100) came with the system. It is a little over 1.5 years old now. The drives previously were mounted flat, now they are on the side. if drive is flat and stops, flip upside down, still run? if drive on side and stops, flip to other side, still run? if drive is flat and stops, turn to side, still run? if drive on side and stops, turn to flat, still run? I'd have to try these out sometime. I'll let you know. Thanks for the ideas. Paul think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments I like this!!! :-) I think it is time to upgrade the mother board. this sucker has a microscopic crack, or one of the mount screws that should be isolated is shorting that board to the box... can you take the MoBo out and set it on a wooden or plexiglass sheet (to insulate it) connect a power supply and video card and see it it boots, and if it does, pick the board up (use insulting gloves) and see if sitting sideways makes the difference. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics
Well I did the same but came back to the rpm way. The problem is that everything is in a different place, has a different name, there is way to much to learn before doing the simplest thing. I also found that the debian community had a different mind set... And the clincher is that hardware isn't always auto installed. I had lots of usb troubles etc. However the deb package rocks. I was just spending way to much time fiddling with the os and very little time getting anything useful done. Aaron PS. Contemplating a move to debian...any comments? __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RE: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ?
1/24/03 11:06:53 AM, Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Toshiba Laptop installation ? H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2003 21:05, Marc wrote: snip When it locks up I am unable to use the mouse and there is no hard drive activity and as of yet I have founnd no keyboard commands that work. The display stays frozen.and I am unable to do anything but a hard shutdown but then that goes back to the subject of the SysReq key. Sorry I am late to this thread. I had the same sort of problem in my Toshiba laptop and it turned out to be the NIC driver. Mandrake picked mine as eepro100. After I reset it to e100 my computer started to work just fine. HTH __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, Presidente / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609- 6213) Thanks for the help but I have sort of bypassed the problem for now, I have been sort of annoyed with the slow preformance of this laptop for a long time and right after the problems installing linux I ran accross a SUPER deal on a used IBM that runs well over twice as fast as the old toshiba but it has a much smaller hard drive so when it arrives I ( Tuesday afternoon ) I am going to do a HDD swap and try again on the new laptop. I will probably install the old toshiba in my business as a shipping computer where I will need winblows to run UPS world ship software. As soon as UPS comes out with software that will run in linux and or if I can get world ship to run in wine the battle may be on again. Thanks Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Toshiba laptop installation problems
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:08:08 + Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The L99 99 99 99 99 99 might be lilo or what you use as a boot manager Have you try http://www.linux-laptop.net to see if anyone has had this problem to. Thanks Ben It was the boot mananger, it was a easy fix. Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ? Modem problem (still)
Hello newbie, Sorry to bother you all again and again about this matter. But I'm getting frustated to find the (right) driver to make my modem work. Cos I really really really need to FULL MIGRATE to GNU/LINUX, and totally forget Winblowz Now, I give you more info about my modem (so you can give me the more accurate solution) :-) PROPETIES OF MY MODEM (from Win98's Control Panel - Modem - Properties - Connection - Advance - View Log) : 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Generic SoftK56 Data Fax in use. 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Modem type: Generic SoftK56 Data Fax 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Modem inf path: DCRCSTX.INF 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Initializing modem. 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Send: ATcr 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Recv: ATcr 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Send: ATFE0V1S0=0C1D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2cr 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Recv: ATFE0V1S0=0C1D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2cr 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4cr 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Send: ATFXS11=40S28=0S27=32cr 01-25-2003 23:43:26.68 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:26.68 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.70 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:26.70 - Send: ATDT;cr 01-25-2003 23:43:27.11 - Recv: ATDT;cr 01-25-2003 23:43:29.21 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:29.21 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:29.24 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:29.24 - Send: ATDT##cr 01-25-2003 23:43:29.24 - Recv: ATDT716100cr 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Hanging up the modem. 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Send: cr 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Recv: crlfNO CARRIERcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Interpreted response: No Carrier 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Send: ATHcr 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Recv: ATHcr 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 - Session Statistics: 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 -Reads : 113 bytes 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 -Writes: 124 bytes 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 - Generic SoftK56 Data Fax closed. 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Generic SoftK56 Data Fax in use. 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Modem type: Generic SoftK56 Data Fax 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Modem inf path: DCRCSTX.INF 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1 01-25-2003 23:43:50.70 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Initializing modem. 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Send: ATcr 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Recv: ATcr 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Send: ATFE0V1S0=0C1D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2cr 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Recv: ATFE0V1S0=0C1D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2cr 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4cr 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Send: ATFXS11=40S28=0S27=32cr 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Send: ATDT;cr 01-25-2003 23:43:51.10 - Recv: ATDT;cr 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Send: ATDT##cr 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Recv: ATDT716100cr 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Recv: crlfCONNECTcrlf 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Interpreted response: Connect 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Connection established at 115200bps. 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Error-control off or unknown. 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Data compression off or unknown. MY LINUX : 2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i686.rpm Please, with all do respect, don't say that I have to go to winmodem or linmodem to get the driver. Cos I did, and had donwload some DRIVERS as folows: 1. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600.1.i386.rpm 2. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600k.2.4.19 16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm 3. ltmodem-kv 2.4.19 16mdk-8.22a5-1.i586.rpm 4. ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm 5. riptide-0.4mbsibeta02122500k2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm 6. PCI_56K_V2_K2.2.17.tar ... but the problem remains the same :-( . Once again, help me please. Cos I'm totally blind about this wonderful OS. And in advance ... thank's a lot, Guys! -- Best regards, mbot mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday January 26 2003 01:43 am, Paul wrote: Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm). The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows 29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in Gkrellm correctly, but this is what I also could see (plus or minus a few degrees) when then machine was still upright. So no change there. Type 'sensors' in a terminal if you aren't sure you have gkrellm configured correctly. If 'sensors' is showing 78C, that's your weirdness problem. First of all, AMD Athlon's (unlike Intels) don't have an internal diode for reporting the actual core temp. An external probe is used. AMD says to add 10 to 20C to the probe temp to better approximate the actual core temp. IME, about 12C (10C from a pin probe, to 15C for a contact probe) is the typical amount to add. To illustrate, silicon is an insulator. Measuring the internal temp of a cpu with an external probe is sort'a like tryin to measure the temp of electrical wires inside a wall, by mashing a thermometer against the plaster. OK, maybe that's a little exageration, but you get the idea ;) AMD specs Athlons to fail at 90C core temp. This upper limit will be lowered if you overheat the core even once, but it usually takes several times. When you see 78C from the probe, your core temp is probly 90C, maybe even as high as 98C. Poof! You're lucky the system quits, rather than completely fryin that Athlon and the motherboard. Re-mount your heatsink on that athlon squarely and firmly using thermal grease, not a thermal pad. The $2 grease from Radio Shack is all you need. Apply a thin layer. Keep your case temp as close to room temp as possible. You should be able to keep that cpu under 55C from the probe, even under sustained 100% load. 'Course the 55 probe is really upper 60's core temp, but far enough under 90C that even occasional spikes in the core temp shouldn't cause failure. After fixin your heatsink, see if the system won't run properly (upright). If it's still runnin too hot, try pointing a table fan into the case with the cover off. If you can then run at more normal temps, you need to improve your heatsink, fans and case ventilation. If you still have weirdness with improved cooling, it's likely you overheated the core one too many times and the cpu is internally damaged. You may have also caused some damage to the capacitors on the motherboard, particularly those surrounding the cpu socket. If you suspect you've permanently damaged the cpu/mobo, all is still not lost. Underclock it, if the mobo supports it. The multiplier on that 1200 is not locked. Keep the FSB at spec, but try dropping the multiplier by .5 to as much as 2. IOW's, if it's 9x133, try droppin the multiplier to 8 or 8.5. If it's a 100mhz FSB cpu (12x100), try 10 or 11x100. Might keep you goin till you can replace the system. If it comes to that, I strongly suggest you only use AMD recommended power supplies, motherboards, and heatsinks, if you aren't now doin so. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Saturday 25 January 2003 11:09 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 01:05, Keith Powell wrote: I have just spent about two and a half hours downloading a package and all its dependencies, using MCC Install Software. When it tried to install the packages, it couldn't, saying that there was an installation fault. It then abandoned the installation. How can I find out what the fault was, please, in the hope that I can prevent it happening in the future? Secondly, /var/cache/urpmi/rpms is now empty. Does this mean that I have to start all over again with another two and a half hours download? This second download may be faulty as well. Five hours downloading is half the weekly length of time I can be connected! For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks Keith What I've seen - and found - is that sometimes a package THINKS it's broken when in fact it's really not - same with dependencies - a package, if it can't necessarily FIND it's dependencies will assume it needs them (again) and will TRY to put itself together accordingly. In order to fully bypass this issue, I always (recommend) that the library paths are checked in the /etc/ld.so.conf file - and a re-run of ldconfig be done prior to getting further. The file, /etc/ld.so.conf contains the library paths - which programs are dependent on. If the particular library path is NOT being searched, logically, the program decides it can't go further. My /etc/ld.so.conf file looks like this: /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/lib/sane /usr/lib/qt-1.45/lib /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib /usr/local/java/lib /usr/local/qt3-gcc2.96/lib /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/program /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/lib/ /opt/quasar/firebird/lib /opt/quasar/sybase/lib ...the most important to have in here are /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib - aside from the other directories. Once modifications have been made to this file, you must run ldconfig to rebuild the path cache. If you can get to that point, then you can try your package again and see if it works better - or at least with few dependencies. Hello Stephen. Thank you for your reply and all the information you have given me. The information is very useful to have, and I will write it down before I forget it. At my age, I daren't trust to memory! I didn't know about checking the ld.so.conf file or about running ldconfig; so I will do that as soon as I have sent this message. Cheers and thanks for your help. Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation fault
On Saturday 25 January 2003 7:49 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Saturday 25 January 2003 04:24 pm, Keith Powell wrote: snip For information, the package was the Texstar Phoenix. I have heard some good reports about Phoenix and would like to try it. I am feeling very frustrated at the failure of the installation! Many thanks I have done some investigating, and it appears that Phoenix and Phoenix-java were not installed. The other packages it needed, were installed. So, I have downloaded just these two again and installed them separately. The Phoenix package installed, but the java package wouldn't install. It said that there was a size mismatch - whatever that means. Phoenix now runs, but I assume that it is without Java. I haven't had a chance to use it and find out. The installer did not mention any package by name, it merely said that there was a download error. I hope that Phoenix is worth trying, after all this trouble! Cheers Keith /snip Keith, out of curiosity I just downloaded Phoenix from Texstar. I just issued the command (as root) : urpmi phoenix and watched the text scroll by. No problems whatsoever. Then, I ran Phoenix, it seems a bit meager and not noticeable faster then Mozilla, but certainly slower then Konqueror and Opera. Then, trying to view a java-*enriched* page, it stopped and prompted me to download java, although java already resides on the box. I did that nevertheless ( must be done as root ! ) and again without any glitches. Now I have two java plugins ;-) However, I intend to get rid of it again. HTH Kaj Haulrich Kaj, thank you for your reply. I have been trying Phoenix, and can't see much difference between it and other light weight browsers. So it may not be staying on my hard drive for much longer. It was interesting to install (more or less!) and test. I have seen it reported that the Windows version of Phoenix is good, better than Internet Explorer. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Treo 180 vs. Evolution (attempt overview - still unresolved).
My System: Mandrake 9 (2.4.19-16mdk kernel) on a 500 Mhz PIII with 256MB RAM. I am using KDE 3.0.3, Evolution 1.2.1 My PDA: Handspring Treo 180 (GSM phone/PalmOS PDA hybrid). The Treo is running Palm OS 3.5. I use the USB connection to connect with my PC. According to WebMin, my USB is set to start at boot and is currently running. (MandrakeSoft, : usb,v 1.44). I know USB is running because ... a. 'lsusb' gives Bus 001 Device 001: ID : b. Mandrake Control Center--Hardware-- USB Controller shows (82371AB PIIX4 USB) -- This is what I have done so far. 1. At a shell, I typed 'ls /dev/usb' and got nothing. 2. I put the Treo in the cradle and pressed the hot sync button. Then when I typed 'ls /dev/usb' again and got 'tts' in the directory. 3. I then created the symbolic link to /dev/pilot by typing the following as root 'ln -s /dev/usb/tts/0 /dev/pilot'. 4. Started Evolution and went to Tools--Pilot Settings. Got the wizard and hit next until the screen that gave me two options. a. Yes, I've used sync software with this pilot before. b. No, I've never used sync software with this pilot before. If I click the No option, it gives me a slot to put a User Name and ID. I am assuming I should use the 'Yes' option, since I have syncronized my Treo with the Palm Desktop software it came with on my Windows machine, and the device already has a username. 5. After I answered this and pressed NEXT on this final screen, I pressed the hotsync button on the cradle. All of the icons on my desktop flickered as if something was happening, but nothing ever transfered. I got the error message, Could not examine the port for Cradle(/devt/pilot). The port should point to a USB serial port. No such file or directory (2) When I go back now and type 'ls /dev/pilot' I get No such file or directory. My Treo keeps displaying the error message The connection between your handheld computer and the desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try again. 6. So now I decide to start over. I went to Tools--Pilot Settings on Evolution and got the wizard. When Pilot Identification asked the yes or No question I said yes, and right before I clicked next I typed ls dev/pilot as root. I got the no such file or directory so I created the symbolic link again by typing ln -s /dev/usb/tts/0 /dev/pilot again as root. Then I checked by typing ls dev/pilot and the 'tts' was there. Then I clicked next on the pilot wizard and pressed the hotsync button right after. Now I get a new error that says Failed sending request to gpilotd. Now I am stuck. What am I doing wrong or what haven't I done that I need to do? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, TP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have a working supermount cdrom?
On Saturday January 25 2003 07:16 pm, Charlie wrote: Hi; I've been fighting with beta2 for so long I think I may have gone into terminal brainf@rt mode. I finally have it recognizing the cdrom, the cdrw and the floppy at boot (no mount point errors) but I can't for the life of me remember how to leave supermount enabled and still have a user accessible removable media drive. All three drives in fact. I have managed to mount the cdrom manually with the install disks inserted; which is weird since supermount is supposed to be on. Some of my backup data files are hangovers on CD-R from when I still dual booted Windows and I can't make the drive read them. Images saved from the past, a few directories of MP3s, etc. That may be a beta problem but I won't know unless I can get consistent drive performance otherwise. I'll need a peak at someone's fstab (working supermount) to stimulate the gray matter in order to complete the job. If it's a beta bug I'll be able to find what so I can make a bug report. There's already a bug report and a fix Can anybody throw an old dog a bone? Thanks. It's a kernel deal, and a deficiency in the beta's configuration (so far). The 2.4.21 kernels setup the CD drives as scsi, both CD-RW's and cdroms. In my case then both were unavailable for reading, with or without supermount, tho I could still burn CDr's. The fix is quite easy. For example, my burner is hdd and my Cdrom is hdc, and this is my lilo.conf line, append= devfs=mount hdc=ide-cd hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet .^^ Adding hdc=ide-cd, the Cdrom is now accesible, and I can use my burner for reading also. 'supermount -i enable mount-a' got it all goin again with supermount. Which, BTW, is greatly improved (fast!) with 2.4.21. BTW, check cdrecord -scanbus as your CD-RW will likely be moved. Mine was from 0,1,0 to 0,0,0 with this fix. You really should subscribe to the cooker ML when usin cooker, or at least frequently check the recent ML archives, if you're not or don't already. I had been usin the 2.4.19 kernel to fix this situation till the cdrom/ide issue was discussed, and the fix given on the cooker list. I reckon it'll be fixed with beta3, which should be any day now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE SNIPPET: Rather amusing
Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 20:02, Stephen Kuhn wrote: ''People need to do a better job about fixing vulnerabilities,'' Schmidt said. ... --- Some of you might remember that, before taking the position of cyber-security czar, Schmidt was chief security officer for Microsoft, which undoubtedly explains his penchant for blaming the user, not the source. rday (from the RH list) Furthermore, given that some patches really messed up the systems they were supposed to fix, we know have a one month wait-and-see policy before applying any patch. Crossing the fingers and praying that within this month no worm-trojan-whatever appear. One just did: Slammer (son of Code Red). Sir Robin -- A Perl script is correct if it gets the job done before your boss fires you. - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
Paul wrote: No, it keeps going. No. There is still power on the mainboard led and the leds of the network cards. Both. Same result. Yes and yes. No, it is not. I cannot imagine that it does. I can leave the PC off for 2 hours, which should be enough to cool off most parts. When I switch the PC Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm). The drives (2 x 30Gb ata100) came with the system. It is a little over 1.5 years old now. The drives previously were mounted flat, now they are on the side. I'd have to try these out sometime. I'll let you know. Thanks for the ideas. ok. from your replies, it is now to decide if problems is with mainboard or if you have a harddrive problem. with box in normal upright position, put harddrive on it's side. does system stay up? I like this!!! :-) glad you enjoyed. peace out. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email... text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code attachments =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 2:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday January 26 2003 01:43 am, Paul wrote: Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm). The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows 29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in Gkrellm correctly, but this is what I also could see (plus or minus a few degrees) when then machine was still upright. So no change there. Type 'sensors' in a terminal if you aren't sure you have gkrellm configured correctly. If 'sensors' is showing 78C, that's your weirdness problem. First of all, AMD Athlon's (unlike Intels) don't have an internal diode for reporting the actual core temp. An external probe is used. AMD says to add 10 to 20C to the probe temp to better approximate the actual core temp. IME, about 12C (10C from a pin probe, to 15C for a contact probe) is the typical amount to add. To illustrate, silicon is an insulator. Measuring the internal temp of a cpu with an external probe is sort'a like tryin to measure the temp of electrical wires inside a wall, by mashing a thermometer against the plaster. OK, maybe that's a little exageration, but you get the idea ;) AMD specs Athlons to fail at 90C core temp. This upper limit will be lowered if you overheat the core even once, but it usually takes several times. When you see 78C from the probe, your core temp is probly 90C, maybe even as high as 98C. Poof! You're lucky the system quits, rather than completely fryin that Athlon and the motherboard. Re-mount your heatsink on that athlon squarely and firmly using thermal grease, not a thermal pad. The $2 grease from Radio Shack is all you need. Apply a thin layer. Keep your case temp as close to room temp as possible. You should be able to keep that cpu under 55C from the probe, even under sustained 100% load. 'Course the 55 probe is really upper 60's core temp, but far enough under 90C that even occasional spikes in the core temp shouldn't cause failure. After fixin your heatsink, see if the system won't run properly (upright). If it's still runnin too hot, try pointing a table fan into the case with the cover off. If you can then run at more normal temps, you need to improve your heatsink, fans and case ventilation. If you still have weirdness with improved cooling, it's likely you overheated the core one too many times and the cpu is internally damaged. You may have also caused some damage to the capacitors on the motherboard, particularly those surrounding the cpu socket. If you suspect you've permanently damaged the cpu/mobo, all is still not lost. Underclock it, if the mobo supports it. The multiplier on that 1200 is not locked. Keep the FSB at spec, but try dropping the multiplier by .5 to as much as 2. IOW's, if it's 9x133, try droppin the multiplier to 8 or 8.5. If it's a 100mhz FSB cpu (12x100), try 10 or 11x100. Might keep you goin till you can replace the system. If it comes to that, I strongly suggest you only use AMD recommended power supplies, motherboards, and heatsinks, if you aren't now doin so. Tom - I'm not doubting you, and I'll certainly keep this post for reference, but how is that affected by orientation? Why would it run longer if on its side? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 5:04 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday January 26 2003 09:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Tom - I'm not doubting you, and I'll certainly keep this post for reference, but how is that affected by orientation? Why would it run longer if on its side? Anne Heat rises : Seriously, if he's runnin it on it's side, the heat rises out of the case better, maybe?. A table fan blowin into an upright case would probly be better tho. In any event, 78C from a probe is WAY TOO high for an Athlon. Another posssible explaination is if he's usin a heatsink that is heavier than AMD recommends. These heavy heatsinks don't sit squarely on the cpu's die when the case is upright and gravity is pullin 'em down. Specially if the spring clip tension is to low. Which is why AMD specs a maximum weight (200 or 300 grams IIRC) and retention clip tensions. Anyhow, all their recommended heatsinks fall within this weight requirement. A lot of the super duper fancy expensive one, are also overweight. Specially the copper ones. Even if the cause is somethin else, anything over low 60C's (max, under extreme load) for an Athlon is intolerable, an must be sorted out, sooner the better if it's not already too late. Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing of the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try to deal with those clips :). Are there specialist fans that are lighter weight? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone have a working supermount cdrom?
On Sunday 26 January 2003 08:05 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday January 25 2003 07:16 pm, Charlie wrote: Hi; I've been fighting with beta2 for so long I think I may have gone into terminal brainf@rt mode. I finally have it recognizing the cdrom, the cdrw and the floppy at boot (no mount point errors) but I can't for the life of me remember how to leave supermount enabled and still have a user accessible removable media drive. All three drives in fact. I have managed to mount the cdrom manually with the install disks inserted; which is weird since supermount is supposed to be on. Some of my backup data files are hangovers on CD-R from when I still dual booted Windows and I can't make the drive read them. Images saved from the past, a few directories of MP3s, etc. That may be a beta problem but I won't know unless I can get consistent drive performance otherwise. I'll need a peak at someone's fstab (working supermount) to stimulate the gray matter in order to complete the job. If it's a beta bug I'll be able to find what so I can make a bug report. There's already a bug report and a fix Can anybody throw an old dog a bone? Thanks. It's a kernel deal, and a deficiency in the beta's configuration (so far). The 2.4.21 kernels setup the CD drives as scsi, both CD-RW's and cdroms. In my case then both were unavailable for reading, with or without supermount, tho I could still burn CDr's. The fix is quite easy. For example, my burner is hdd and my Cdrom is hdc, and this is my lilo.conf line, append= devfs=mount hdc=ide-cd hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet .^^ image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21pre3-2mdk label=2.4.21-2 root=/dev/hda5 read-only optional vga=normal append= devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21pre3-2mdk.img That's the LILO stanza for the latest cooker kernel I'm running at the moment Tom. The ide-scsi issue was the first thing I noticed when I finally got beta2 running and connected to the internet. I had the hdc=ide-cd in the append line on the pre3-1 kernel as well after Pixel posted it on the cooker list. The trouble is that the previous kernel had screwed up my fstab during install that I kept getting No mount point errors for both CD drives and the floppy. I think I finally have it corrected enough now to use the disk drives but even with supermount in the removable media line drives in fstab it's necessary to manually mount them so that I can use them. Even then a couple of old back up CD-Rs that have images, mp3s, and other files that were saved from my Windows days aren't read. They were always read in previous releases of Mandrake. I suppose I should have copied them to hard disk drive before playing with a beta again but I just never expected not to be able to read them. Where's KwikDisk when ya need it, eh? ;-) Adding hdc=ide-cd, the Cdrom is now accesible, and I can use my burner for reading also. 'supermount -i enable mount-a' got it all goin again with supermount. Which, BTW, is greatly improved (fast!) with 2.4.21. BTW, check cdrecord -scanbus as your CD-RW will likely be moved. Mine was from 0,1,0 to 0,0,0 with this fix. It moved mine from the 0,3,0 it was under 9.0 to the 0,0,0 it was under 8.2 and previous releases as well. Too weird. But it is a beta. The first beta had my CD-ROM as 0,1,0 and the CD-RW as 0,2,0. That was the same in beta2 before the new kernel as well. You really should subscribe to the cooker ML when usin cooker, or at least frequently check the recent ML archives, if you're not or don't already. I had been usin the 2.4.19 kernel to fix this situation till the cdrom/ide issue was discussed, and the fix given on the cooker list. I reckon it'll be fixed with beta3, which should be any day now. The 9.0 2.4.19 and the 2.2 series may be the only recent Mandrake kernels that I didn't try Tom. (g) I have (installed) the one shipped with beta1, with beta2, 2.4.20.2mdk-1-1, and the previously mentioned pre3-2. Everything else that I installed that I use is cooker current as of this morning around 3:00 AM MST. I've been reading the cooker list for quite some time Tom. Thanks for the suggestion. I have a feeling I missed something so I'll re-read what was posted the last few days. I think you're right about beta3, Pixel keeps talking about it in recent posts. Maybe those were typos though. :-) Thanks for taking the time Tom. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org TONY RANDALL! Is YOUR life a PATIO of FUN?? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT
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Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote: *snip* Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing of the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try to deal with those clips :). Are there specialist fans that are lighter weight? And see.. this is why I spent the extra 20 bucks and bought a Pentium IV 1.6, instead of the Athlon 1800 (which runs at 1400mhz I think) -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- To err is humor. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 5:47 pm, Chuck Burns wrote: On Sun, January 26 2003 11:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote: *snip* Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing of the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try to deal with those clips :). Are there specialist fans that are lighter weight? And see.. this is why I spent the extra 20 bucks and bought a Pentium IV 1.6, instead of the Athlon 1800 (which runs at 1400mhz I think) No, I don't see. Why? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HDD temps?
OK, a little utility rpm for 9.1 showed up recently, hddtemp (hddtemp-0.3-0.beta3.1mdk). I've been playin with it for a few days. see : http://coredump.free.fr/linux/harddrive.html#hddtemp tom# hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 55°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 31°C (case temp is 23C, drives are well separated and ventilated) That's just now, but in several checks over time, hdb (a storage drive, 40g) ranges from low to high 30's. hda (my busy drive, 80g) runs mid 50's to low 60's. I've tried Googling and even emailed Maxtor (no reply yet), but now curiousity's got the better of me. What are normal temp ranges?, what's too high? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HDD temps?
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:53:31 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are normal temp ranges?, what's too high? On my XP1900+ the 45Gig Maxtor does not even give a temp. # hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] WARNING: Drive /dev/hda doesn't seem to have a temperature sensor. WARNING: This doesn't mean it hasn't got one. WARNING: If you are sure it has one, please contact me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). WARNING: See --help, --debug and --drivebase options. /dev/hda: Maxtor 54610H6: no sensor /dev/hdb: IC35L060AVER07-0: 18°C Charles I would like to urinate in an OVULAR, porcelain pool -- -- Mandrake Linux 9.1 Kernel- 2.4.21pre3-2mdk -- msg116973/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics
On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:51 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:34 pm, et wrote: snip consider yopa. it is a new distro for th desktop, and while I have not yet had a chance to check it out, it comes highly recomended by folks I have learned to trust. On this list, I think it was YAMA, Sridhar Dhanapalani, that thought this was a good distro, and every other bit of advice he gave was right on the money. /snip et, I'm pretty sure the name is Yoper. BTW : where is Sridhar these days ? Miss him too. Kaj Haulrich === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === yep, sorry about that... I see him on PClinuxonline more these days Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE SNIPPET: Rather amusing
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 02:05, robin wrote: One just did: Slammer (son of Code Red). Sir Robin As was discussed on the RH list, I do have to say that this was a well planned attack, and being that it actually brought out the attention of the US Secretary of Defense - AND brought Microsoft's LACK of security further into the public's eye (think of the timing...what great timing) this shows the public that there are even more reasons for not putting their trust and their data into the hands of a monopolistic megalomaniac company like M$. My system never skipped a beat; my ISP didn't skip a beat (and they have MySQL servers in their backend and linux boxes on their front ends)... Whoever is playing this out (and it has to have something to do with the fact that Linux World Expo is going on and Microsoft SHOWED UP there...dig that) - I think it's all aimed at just chucking mud on M$'s face...which ain't gonna hurt our community (linux et. al.) -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:30:00 +1100 5:30am up 10 days, 15:13, 6 users, load average: 0.32, 0.49, 0.43 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Luke Skywalker: I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
1/26/03 10:24:16 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:05:48 +: from your replies, it is now to decide if problems is with mainboard or if you have a harddrive problem. with box in normal upright position, put harddrive on it's side. does system stay up? Yup, no problem. I am of course NOT going to twiddle the running drives around, but they function wonderfully either on the side or straight up. So it is the mobo, as Marc and et also already suspected. Too bad. This ASUS board was pricey. But then, even good things can die an early death. If it is a cracked trace on the mobo dont call it beyond repair yet. It could be a problem that can be repaired by caveman technology. If you can discover what way the board needs to be flexed or bent to keep it working maybe you can do something as simple as install a mechanical device in the case to push or pull it in the correct direction. I once had a rather expensive shortwave receiver with similar problems and I could not find the problem after several hours of troubleshooting. I ended up unscrewing the circuit board and sticking a cigarette butt under the board and screwing it back down this flexed the board enough to make it work. This was by no means a good professional repair but it did continue to reliably work for many years. I would give it a try, you got nothing to loose and if you can make it work well for a couple of years what more do you need. by then you will probably be ready to upgrade. I have also seen another problem similar to this once in a computer try having a long hard look at the electrolitic capactiors near the cpu. look for bulged tops and or wiggle them a bit to see if one has become loose. I have seen the the leads actually pill loose from the bottom of this type of capacttor before and do some odd things. Just a long shot Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re:Back to Basics
Wow. I just went to yoper and if what I read is true I will be switching to it as soon as the first release is out. Aaron On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 12:51, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 12:34 pm, et wrote: snip consider yopa. it is a new distro for th desktop, and while I have not yet had a chance to check it out, it comes highly recomended by folks I have learned to trust. On this list, I think it was YAMA, Sridhar Dhanapalani, that thought this was a good distro, and every other bit of advice he gave was right on the money. /snip et, I'm pretty sure the name is Yoper. BTW : where is Sridhar these days ? Miss him too. Kaj Haulrich === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:15, Russ wrote: Hi All, Shut down my computer last night and everything was just fine. Booted this morning and got an L followed by rows of 01. I did make a boot disk but that was before I redid my system and now Linux is on the second disk, so obviously that didn't work (I'll have to redo it for my current system. Anyone mind pointing me to the correct spot and save me a little time hunting). So then I decided to pop in CD 1 and do something there (wasn't sure what but I was going to look around). Pressed F1 for more info and stumbled onto a function that repairs Lilo. I did it and it seems to be healthy again. Can anyone shed some light on why Lilo burped? Thanks Russ Almost every time I see that error it has to do with something causing your /boot partition from being the active partition. I usually fix it with a Win98 boot disk and FDISK to reset the active partition - then after reboot, works like a charm. -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:50:00 +1100 5:50am up 10 days, 15:33, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ? Modem problem (still)
- Original Message - From: mbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello newbie, Sorry to bother you all again and again about this matter. But I'm getting frustated to find the (right) driver to make my modem work. Please, with all do respect, don't say that I have to go to winmodem or linmodem to get the driver. Cos I did, and had donwload some DRIVERS as folows: 1. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600.1.i386.rpm 2. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600k.2.4.19 16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm 3. ltmodem-kv 2.4.19 16mdk-8.22a5-1.i586.rpm 4. ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm 5. riptide-0.4mbsibeta02122500k2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm 6. PCI_56K_V2_K2.2.17.tar ... but the problem remains the same :-( . Once again, help me please. Cos I'm totally blind about this wonderful OS. And in advance ... thank's a lot, Guys! -- Best regards, mbot *** Hi mbot, you might be able to get more precise information about your modem specs by going here: http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/modemident.html and getting the List Modem Application program. Run this program, either the Windows version on your MS system, or the Linux version on Linux. That should give you more details about your modem to help you find the right driver, if it's available. It's does seem that you have a HSF chipset modem though. Theoretically, the mbsi driver should work for you. Follow the instructions provided on mbsi's site very carefully. Have you tried compiling the generic driver package from source? I have a HCF Conexant modem, and get very good results with the mbsi driver. I do compile the generic source rpm on my machine. I get better performance doing that. I believe my winmodem actually works better as a Linmodem! However, YMMV, as always. Also, there is a tar package which may well be worth a try too. It can be quite discouraging to a new Linux user to try to get a winmodem to work. I know what it's like! Some can be made to work however, and work quite well too. I hope you get on-line w/Linux! Good luck to you. :-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing an exe with WINE
Russ wrote: Would I then have to install FreeDOS then install Win3.1 on top of that to run this program? The program I am trying to run is an older version of Logos Bible software. It has worked fine under Win3.1 and 98se. No, I meant that a lot of old Win 3.1 programs are actually DOS programs, so you might be able to run them without Windows. I have been plugging away at trying to get it going but I keep hitting snags. I ended up using Codeweavers but now I am told I need xmessage (whatever that is) and I was told to do a search and install it. I cannot find it. IIRC, xmessage is in XFree86-contrib, or some such package. A search on rpmfind.net should turn it up. Sir Robin -- Like these cutters, and hackers, who will take the wall of men, and picke quarrells. - G. Pettie Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
Not to correct you Stephen, but isn't it something like fdisk -mbr or something? Hate to see somebody run fdisk without that mbr option and ruin their current setup.. OTH Steve On 27 Jan 2003 05:55:24 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:15, Russ wrote: Hi All, Shut down my computer last night and everything was just fine. Booted this morning and got an L followed by rows of 01. I did make a boot disk but that was before I redid my system and now Linux is on the second disk, so obviously that didn't work (I'll have to redo it for my current system. Anyone mind pointing me to the correct spot and save me a little time hunting). So then I decided to pop in CD 1 and do something there (wasn't sure what but I was going to look around). Pressed F1 for more info and stumbled onto a function that repairs Lilo. I did it and it seems to be healthy again. Can anyone shed some light on why Lilo burped? Thanks Russ Almost every time I see that error it has to do with something causing your /boot partition from being the active partition. I usually fix it with a Win98 boot disk and FDISK to reset the active partition - then after reboot, works like a charm. -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:50:00 +1100 5:50am up 10 days, 15:33, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary -- Linux user #280097 Machine #162480 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] /dev/dsp warning message
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:26:08 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well !, [root@localhost root]# /sbin/fuser /dev/dsp /dev/dsp: 3064 ok,now, [root@localhost root]# ps aux | grep 3064 root 3064 0.0 0.0 1632 452 ?S22:05 0:00 /usr/bin/esd -ter root 3178 0.0 0.1 1668 592 pts/3S22:15 0:00 grep 3064 so that means something but what? I do not know what these 0.0 0.0 1632 452? is but 22.05 looks like a time, 0:00 no idea, and it is connected with sound device /usr/bin/esd with a flag of -ter whatever that means. Does anyone know ? John Esd is the Enlightened Sound Daemon, see 'man esd'. AFAIK it's a sound server daemon from Gnome, like artsd is from/for KDE. These sound servers allow software mixing of more than one soundstream (like playing a mp3 and get systems sounds at the same time). Have fun with sound in Linux ;-) -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Moving to HTTPS
Thanks, Sharrea. It seems to work. Now I will have to try with a trusted certificate to see if I will avoid the warnings I get on my client browsers. Best regards /Stefano On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 10:33, Sharrea wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:17, Stefano Pogliani wrote: What should I do to start using HTTPS **in addition to** HTTP on my site ? I installed SquirrelMail in order to access to my mails from everywhere. But would like to do it in a secure way. So, I installed mod_ssl. In Konqueror, when using HTTPS, it issues some alert but allows me to continue. In Mozilla, this does not happen (I am not able to access my site using HTTPS). I had a quick look at the certificate and it speaks about something for testing only. Could someone point me to some HowTo or complete description of the process I should follow ? Thanks a lot in advance. Best regards /stefano You'll find the instructions for creating your own server certificate at http://www.apache-ssl.org/#FAQ under Now I've got my server installed, how do I create a test certificate? I tried restarting apache with # apachectl graceful and then opening my browser but it didn't work and I had to reboot - then all was well. I'm sure there is something else to restart to avoid rebooting but I don't know what - hopefully someone else can tell us? HTH Cheers Sharrea
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 06:29, Steve Jeppesen wrote: Not to correct you Stephen, but isn't it something like fdisk -mbr or something? Hate to see somebody run fdisk without that mbr option and ruin their current setup.. OTH Steve Generally, when you run FDISK, you are presented with options - mostly 4 options if you have one disk, 5 options if you have more than one disk. Option 2 is to SET ACTIVE PARTITION Just in running the MS-DOS FDISK doesn't kill or delete anything, although I do know of people that randomly smash keys and do silly things - but mostly you would ASSUME that people would read what's placed in front of them prior to either clicking on something or hitting a key...(g) -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 06:35:00 +1100 6:35am up 10 days, 16:18, 6 users, load average: 0.31, 0.24, 0.26 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Success is relative: It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. -- T.S. Eliot, The Family Reunion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] write permission changes on restart
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:50, fifner the dragon wrote: I set permissions for a folder to allow both group and others to write to it. Everytime I restart the computer I have to log in as root and set the permissions again. How do I make the permission changes permanent? Go to: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php Near the bottom of the page is Customizing msec With Overrides. Edit /etc/security/msec/level.local Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 screensavers?
On Saturday 25 January 2003 02:00 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Okay, I'll give. I tried searching KDE's web site, the Mandrake mailing list archive, and Texstar... so...where are screen savers for version 9.0? I didn't have but 4 with the 3 CD download edition, which is understandable...but the same 4 with the powerpack? What?-not enough space on 7 CD's? grin I just installed Mandrake 9.0 after a couple of years with KDE and RH. I found the whole screensavers thing quite frustrating, too. But during install, I forced the install of kdeartwork, and found the screensavers missing. Being on a LAN (home lans rock for these reasons) I had saved my .kde directory from RH after the source install of 3.0.4. Overwriting the Mandrake .kde directory with the source .kde directory, got all the screensavers from KDE, including the Mandrake screensavers. I am not sure what is going on, but I would guess it is in the Mandrake screensaver settings in the .kde directory. And poking around in the directory sure didn't help, that directory under Mandrake is far more complex than under KDE originally. Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] apt-get update gives strange message
In trying to keep my system up to date... as root I typed apt-get upgrade -f This is the message I got. Can someone please explain this to me? --begin error-- Reading Package Lists... Collecting File Provides... Building Dependency Tree... Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages will be upgraded cvs libgimpprint1 libglib2.0_0 libpng3 netscape printer-testpages The following packages will be REMOVED: evolution evolution-devel evolution-pilot gal gnome-spell The following packages have been kept back XFree86-devel XFree86-libs XFree86-xfs arts aspell aspell-en kdeadmin kdebase kdebase-nsplugins kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdetoys kdeutils libarts libqt3 libsane1 licq licq-console licq-rms lisa pan quanta sane-backends 6 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 removed and 27 not upgraded. Need to get 20.7MB of archives. After unpacking 73.6MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] --end error -- Why is it trying to remove evolution? And why is it keeping some packages back? What do I need to do from here? If I need to remove evolution, is there a way to back up my emails and settings so when I reinstall it I wont have lost anything? TP Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 9:08 pm, you wrote: Except that PM tells me I have a problem with my partitions, and doesn't go any further. Anne Here's the trick with PM - You HAVE to have some type of partition it can write to - be it a diskette or be it an actual FAT/VFAT partition. It only needs to write ONE file there - a pqtmp.fil - then it will run. Another way of getting around this is to copy the dos utilities from the PM setup to a CDROM and put the pqtmp.fil in the root dir of the CD (or on the root of a boot floppy) so that it can be run... It's actually in the docs for PM...just a matter of RTM... I'll dig it out and look into it tomorrow. I confess I read it when I got it and haven't looked at it since. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 screensavers?
On Sunday 26 January 2003 03:50 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: I am not sure what is going on, but I would guess it is in the Mandrake screensaver settings in the .kde directory. And poking around in the directory sure didn't help, that directory under Mandrake is far more complex than under KDE originally. Rob Hey Rob. I found the RPM for it. Its a 9+ meg download, but has lots of stuff in it. The name is: kdeartwork-3.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] write permission changes on restart
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:36, Sharrea wrote: On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:50, fifner the dragon wrote: I set permissions for a folder to allow both group and others to write to it. Everytime I restart the computer I have to log in as root and set the permissions again. How do I make the permission changes permanent? Go to: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php Near the bottom of the page is Customizing msec With Overrides. Edit /etc/security/msec/level.local Oops sorry, that should be Create /etc/security/msec/perm.local thats where you put file permissions! Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
HI Stephen, You may be onto something here. This is what I did; On my original try with Linux this go around I just disconnected my old HD and partitioned a new one, Installed Win98 on the first half and Linux on the second. Then I decided to slave them together. So I simply uninstalled Lilo. Now when booted to that HD it boots directly to my new Win98 install. I then slaved the two together. Both HD's (Maxtors) are set to CS. My old HD is in the master position and my new one is on the slave. I reinstalled Linux on the second HD (same partition only now it was a slave disk instead of master). Now Lilo was installed on my OLD HD and it set itself to boot to all three OS's (old Win98 on old HD - New Win98 on first partition new HD - and Linux on second HD). I did it this way just to see if Win98 would boot on a slaved drive. I had heard that it would not. Therefore both HD's were bootable. Now, would that have caused the problem I had? I shut the computer down and started it again today and it did it again so I just erased Lilo (through the CD again) Thanks Russ - Original Message - On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 03:15, Russ wrote: Hi All, Shut down my computer last night and everything was just fine. Booted this morning and got an L followed by rows of 01. I did make a boot disk but that was before I redid my system and now Linux is on the second disk, so obviously that didn't work (I'll have to redo it for my current system. Anyone mind pointing me to the correct spot and save me a little time hunting). So then I decided to pop in CD 1 and do something there (wasn't sure what but I was going to look around). Pressed F1 for more info and stumbled onto a function that repairs Lilo. I did it and it seems to be healthy again. Can anyone shed some light on why Lilo burped? Thanks Russ Almost every time I see that error it has to do with something causing your /boot partition from being the active partition. I usually fix it with a Win98 boot disk and FDISK to reset the active partition - then after reboot, works like a charm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HDD temps?
El Dom 26 Ene 2003 14:53, Tom Brinkman escribió: OK, a little utility rpm for 9.1 showed up recently, hddtemp (hddtemp-0.3-0.beta3.1mdk). I've been playin with it for a few days. see : http://coredump.free.fr/linux/harddrive.html#hddtemp tom# hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] /dev/hda: Maxtor 6Y080L0: 55°C /dev/hdb: MAXTOR 6L040J2: 31°C (case temp is 23C, drives are well separated and ventilated) That's just now, but in several checks over time, hdb (a storage drive, 40g) ranges from low to high 30's. hda (my busy drive, 80g) runs mid 50's to low 60's. I've tried Googling and even emailed Maxtor (no reply yet), but now curiousity's got the better of me. Something similar here, Tom: [pilaga@localhost pilaga]# hddtemp /dev/hd[acd] /dev/hda: ST330630A: 59°C /dev/hdc: IC35L060AVER07-0: 50°C --- not in use (1 dedicated fan) /dev/hdd: IC35L060AVER07-0: 57°C --- not in use (1 dedicated fan) Saludos. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 6:27pm up 1:15, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.17 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HDD temps?
On Sunday January 26 2003 12:19 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:53:31 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are normal temp ranges?, what's too high? On my XP1900+ the 45Gig Maxtor does not even give a temp. # hddtemp /dev/hd[ab] WARNING: Drive /dev/hda doesn't seem to have a temperature sensor. WARNING: This doesn't mean it hasn't got one. WARNING: If you are sure it has one, please contact me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). WARNING: See --help, --debug and --drivebase options. /dev/hda: Maxtor 54610H6: no sensor /dev/hdb: IC35L060AVER07-0: 18°C Charles Thanks Charles, I believe my 50+C temps might be bogus. Even after shutting down for several minutes, then checking immediately after boot with little HDD activity, the temp is still 55 to 60C for that one drive of mine, the other is 23C (room temp). OTOH, don't you heat your house? ;) 18C is 64F, maybe you've got the box outside in the snow? ; I'm beginin to wonder how trustworthy this utility is. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 screensavers?
I think the xscreensaver it so good; you can use it even with KDE (by default Gnome uses it). To use it just do: A) In kde control panel dissable screensaver B) put in /home/user/.kde/Autostart/ an script file named, for example, start-xscreensaver.sh with just this conten: xscreensaver -nosplash make it executable (chmod +x .) C) The next time you will start KDE you will be able to change the parameters of xscreensaver typing in a console: xscreensaver-demo (I like to put it to change of screensaver every 2 minutes, and in random mode). I read this cheat from mandrake forum (http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2078lang=en) D) you can improve the xscreensaver adding several wonderfull screensaver to xscreensaver, have a look at the next page in Mandrake Forum: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2540lang=en euphoria, skyrocket, plasma.. look fantastic. More interesting pages in Mandrake Forum: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1953lang=en (to enable xmatrix) El Dom 26 Ene 2003 22:17, Ronald J. Hall escribió: On Sunday 26 January 2003 03:50 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: I am not sure what is going on, but I would guess it is in the Mandrake screensaver settings in the .kde directory. And poking around in the directory sure didn't help, that directory under Mandrake is far more complex than under KDE originally. Rob Hey Rob. I found the RPM for it. Its a 9+ meg download, but has lots of stuff in it. The name is: kdeartwork-3.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia Campus de Espinardo E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HDD temps?
On Sunday January 26 2003 03:41 pm, Pilagá wrote: see : http://coredump.free.fr/linux/harddrive.html#hddtemp Something similar here, Tom: [pilaga@localhost pilaga]# hddtemp /dev/hd[acd] /dev/hda: ST330630A: 59°C /dev/hdc: IC35L060AVER07-0: 50°C --- not in use (1 dedicated fan) /dev/hdd: IC35L060AVER07-0: 57°C --- not in use (1 dedicated fan) Saludos. Thanks Saludos. That's about the range I see with my newest 7200rpm Maxtor. Still bothers me that my other, months older 7200rpm Maxtor is always in the 30's. Room temp is always mid 20's and both drives are separated by a coupl'a inches from anything including each other in a _well_ ventilated tower case. MOF, I took the case cover off an pointed a table fan at the HDD's ...with no difference in reported average temps. 135 to 140F (high 50C's) does seem a bit hot afterall -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo got sick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 08:46, Russ wrote: HI Stephen, You may be onto something here. This is what I did; On my original try with Linux this go around I just disconnected my old HD and partitioned a new one, Installed Win98 on the first half and Linux on the second. Then I decided to slave them together. So I simply uninstalled Lilo. Now when booted to that HD it boots directly to my new Win98 install. I then slaved the two together. Both HD's (Maxtors) are set to CS. My old HD is in the master position and my new one is on the slave. I reinstalled Linux on the second HD (same partition only now it was a slave disk instead of master). Now Lilo was installed on my OLD HD and it set itself to boot to all three OS's (old Win98 on old HD - New Win98 on first partition new HD - and Linux on second HD). I did it this way just to see if Win98 would boot on a slaved drive. I had heard that it would not. Therefore both HD's were bootable. Now, would that have caused the problem I had? I shut the computer down and started it again today and it did it again so I just erased Lilo (through the CD again) Yeppers - shore would have caused it. Are you done switching disks around now? (g) -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:35:01 +1100 9:35am up 10 days, 19:18, 6 users, load average: 0.28, 0.23, 0.19 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- We only support a 28000 bps connection. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] V4Linux Grabber
Just thought this link would be rather interesting for those that have experienced problems in grabbing video data from their v4lin devices... http://freshmeat.net/releases/110741/ Cheers! -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:40:00 +1100 9:40am up 10 days, 19:23, 6 users, load average: 0.09, 0.14, 0.16 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. -- H. L. Mencken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need to do something else with it first? Thanx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote: *snip* Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing of the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try to deal with those clips :). Are there specialist fans that are lighter weight? And see.. this is why I spent the extra 20 bucks and bought a Pentium IV 1.6, instead of the Athlon 1800 (which runs at 1400mhz I think) No, I don't see. Why? Anne Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off.. Many 3rd party tests have shown that a P4 cpu can run even without a heatsink, with no damage to the CPU at all. It slows down if it detects temperature overload, and prevents the core temp. from reaching critical levels.. (Not to mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared to athlon's measly 200mhz.. :p) -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- You will pass away very quickly. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:14 am, AndrewD wrote: I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need to do something else with it first? Thanx Hello, Compare the md5sum of the ISO image with the one posted on the site you downloaded it from. If the md5sum does not match, then you may have a corrupted ISO image (I write may because they may have posted the wrong md5sum!). Regards, _nasturtium Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote: Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off.. Many 3rd party tests have shown that a P4 cpu can run even without a heatsink, with no damage to the CPU at all. It slows down if it detects temperature overload, and prevents the core temp. from reaching critical levels.. (Not to mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared to athlon's measly 200mhz.. :p) Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better performers at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no expert). -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:49:45 +: And see.. this is why I spent the extra 20 bucks and bought a Pentium IV 1.6, instead of the Athlon 1800 (which runs at 1400mhz I think) No, I don't see. Why? I guess these do not suffer from 'overweight problems' of fans. ;) Paul -- Never lend books -- nobody ever returns them; the only books I have in my library are those which people have lent me. -Anatole France http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sun, January 26 2003 5:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: *snip* Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better performers at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no expert). Really dependant upon what your doing, AMD's ARE better performance/mhz usually.. but.. also at the cost of stability. When I was a technician at a local pc service center, I can't even begin to tell you about the compatibility issues between motherboards and video cards. One guy had a GF4 Ti 4400.. and a AMD XP1800+.. in a Soyo board.. and the card refused to work in anything having to do with 3D.. He bought the card from us, and swore up and down the card was faulty... I put the card into my test system. (A P3 500) and installed several games that he'd brought, saying the card locked up in em.. and it ran beautifully... no problems.. took the ATI Rage128 that I had in the test system.. put it into the Xp1800.. and *IT* ran beautifully.. with no problems, whatsoever... now, for the kicker.. we underclocked his 1800 (which was clocked to 1600mhz, per AMD's settings...) to 1500mhz clockspeed (which the board then recognized the CPU as a XP 1699 (or something like that..) and the GF4 ran without a hitch.. So.. I assumed a heat problem.. not true... the CPU wasn't even hitting 110F (or about 45C) according the motherboard's system diags.. and this was AFTER running some 'cpu burn' tests that output gibberish into each register, causing the CPU to peg 100% usage for like 20 minutes.. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- The time was the 19th of May, 1780. The place was Hartford, Connecticut. The day has gone down in New England history as a terrible foretaste of Judgement Day. For at noon the skies turned from blue to grey and by mid-afternoon had blackened over so densely that, in that religious age, men fell on their knees and begged a final blessing before the end came. The Connecticut House of Representatives was in session. And, as some of the men fell down and others clamored for an immediate adjournment, the Speaker of the House, one Col. Davenport, came to his feet. He silenced them and said these words: The day of judgment is either approaching or it is not. If it is not, there is no cause for adjournment. If it is, I choose to be found doing my duty. I wish therefore that candles may be brought. -- Alistair Cooke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 02:14, AndrewD wrote: I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need to do something else with it first? Thanx Short answer: Just burn. Microsoft Answer: After checking throroughly through the end-user-license agreement, and after carefully reading through all of the documentation concerning this application, make sure you have all the available patches and upgrades prior to initiating the process of creating an image of the file in question. Should there be legalities concerning copying the software, or infringement of intellectual properties, you can contact the Microsoft Piracy website for further information concerning this issue. If you are able to find that you can indeed create a copy of the software without any legal issues or copyright issues, you are going to either have to use Microsoft Windows XP or Home edition to burn the ISO image - but will need to download and install the patch/powertool necessary for the identification of ISO images directly from the Microsoft Update Centre. Once that has been secured and you've read through the EULA, install the powertool as you would any other software, and then reboot your workstation. If you are not running XP or Home Edition, you will have to secure a program necessary for burning CDR's. Microsoft can recommend several popular programs such as Adaptec EZ CD Writer and Nero Burning ROM. These can be purchased either online or through your local computer supplier. -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:20:00 +1100 10:20am up 9 min, 4 users, load average: 0.65, 0.52, 0.25 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- `Just the place for a Snark!' the Bellman cried, As he landed his crew with care; Supporting each man on the top of the tide By a finger entwined in his hair. `Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice: That alone should encourage the crew. Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sun, January 26 2003 1:03 pm, Paul wrote: *snip* I guess these do not suffer from 'overweight problems' of fans. ;) Paul No, it's because P4's don't overheat.. period. They throttle their clock speed, to reduce heat. if they detect overheating, so where thermal management on an Athlon means protecting the cpu from itself, thermal management on a Pentium IV just keeps the CPU from slowing down.. -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
On Sun, January 26 2003 5:29 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: *snip* Microsoft Answer: After checking throroughly through the end-user-license agreement, and after carefully reading through all of the documentation concerning this application, make sure you have all the available patches and upgrades prior to initiating the process of *snip* ... ROFLMFAO! Too funny! The sad thing is.. what he said, while being quite tongue-in-cheek, very closely resembles what MS would, indeed, have said to the question.. God I hate beauracracies(sp?)... -- Chuck Burns, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- Who loves not wisely but too well Will look on Helen's face in hell, But he whose love is thin and wise Will view John Knox in Paradise. -- Dorothy Parker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ARTICLE: MDK 9beta1 2 CD Installation - Reviewed
Another cool article. No FUD. Long live linux! http://www.distrowatch.com/review-mandrake.php -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:00:00 +1100 11:00am up 49 min, 4 users, load average: 1.39, 1.07, 0.75 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis! -- Royal Floyd Mengot (Klaus) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT
On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:40 am, Lee wrote: http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html This appears to be a bullsh*t page. Microsoft doesn't have much if any office space in downtown Seattle, their space is all in the suburbs. Besides, it never made the papers here. -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT
Scroll down to the bottom, hit the back button and you will see what this is all about LOL On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:48:36 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:40 am, Lee wrote: http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html This appears to be a bullsh*t page. Microsoft doesn't have much if any office space in downtown Seattle, their space is all in the suburbs. Besides, it never made the papers here. -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA -- Linux user #280097 Machine #162480 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 19:48, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:40 am, Lee wrote: http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html This appears to be a bullsh*t page. Microsoft doesn't have much if any office space in downtown Seattle, their space is all in the suburbs. Besides, it never made the papers here. -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hmmm, the whole site is tongue in cheek humor. Hit the back button for more laughs. Dennis M. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need help installing gnucash
Hello all, I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux. Anyway, I found a website that talked about adding package sources and I have added several (http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_software.html). Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install by running urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui). The process keeps balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states that libgal19 is already installed. I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed libgal.so.19 exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3. Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install. Thanks, Chris Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 22:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux. Anyway, I found a website that talked about adding package sources and I have added several (http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_software.html). Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install by running urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui). The process keeps balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states that libgal19 is already installed. I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed libgal.so.19 exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3. Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install. Thanks, Chris Do you have the /usr/lib and usr/local.lib path in /etc/ld.so.conf? If you don't, add those directories in two different lines and run ldconfig __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Hardware weirdness 2
On Sunday January 26 2003 05:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote: prevents the core temp. from reaching critical levels.. (Not to mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared to athlon's measly 200mhz.. :p) Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better performers at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no expert). Not so, Athlons are much better performers at the same clock speed ;) Athlons in the 1.6g range out perform P4's of the 2+ ghz variety, at less cost. It's not so much that AMD's are so great, it's more like P4's and even more so, the available motherboard chipsets for them suck really big time. Intel has used M$ type tatics to crush competition, but has yet to produce any decent i8whatever chipsets. 400-533mhz is the same type of PR ballyhoo both manufacturers use for those that fall for it. And it's not cache speeds, its FSB speeds multiplied by marketing smoke'n mirrors. FSB for all but the very *most recent cpu's is 133mhz. AMD pretends they double this to 266. Intels goes off the charts with claims of 3 and 4 times multiplication by magic (*most recent being 166 mhz FSB, either vendor. In that case AMD claims 333mhz, 2x 166). 'Sides, front side bus speeds aren't dictated by the cpu, they're set by the (motherboard's) chipsets. And on either system, everything STILL has to go thru the old 33mhz PCI bus anyhow. So much for '533mhz cpu' PR B$. AMD's worst short fall IMO, an I beleive it's why they're not acceptable on the server or even laptop markets is the lack of an **internal diode to report/regulate heat. Intels' have had this since early Pentiums. OTOH, it's a recent Intel copout also. As some of you have said, the diode in new Intels allows the cpu to slow down, even shutdown to avoid overheating. In the case of laptops, avoid overheating and conserve power. So just when you need power, the cpu kneels down, badly ;( Which is another reason P4's suck. An why somebody posted recently that a 40 minute kernel compile took 80 minutes on their new 1.6 gig P4 laptop. (**OK, the newer Athlon XP's have a rudimentary internal diode implemtation, but it's almost a year now, with no decent motherboard support from any vendor. Asus and Gigabyte have tried, most others haven't.) A better marketing approach, judging by popularity, seems to be the worst old past junk. VIA buys up failed Cyrix crap for practically nothin, and PR's it sucessfully as 'silent' and 'fanless' (VIA C3's, the 'C' stands for Cyrix, 3rd attempt). PR claims of 800mhz produce benches an ancient K6-300 could beat hands down. Which BTW can also be run silent and fanless on junk motherboards an power supplies. At least the K6 was an i586 cpu, the C3's are a 586/486 mix. So the buyer has choice ; For me, I'm just nursin my tired ol' overclocked Tbird 1.4/VIA (1.5ghz, out performs a 1.8g/i8xx P4) along till it dies. It's startin to run hotter lately ;( Maybe 64 bit desktop cpu's will be the rage by then ;) Had a P3-450 oc'd to 600 on a Intel BX chipset, before. The hardware people are willin to buy's been goin down hill since ... includin me -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash
From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/01/26 Sun PM 09:45:57 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 22:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux. Anyway, I found a website that talked about adding package sources and I have added several (http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_software.html). Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install by running urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui). The process keeps balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states that libgal19 is already installed. I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed libgal.so.19 exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3. Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install. Thanks, Chris Do you have the /usr/lib and usr/local.lib path in /etc/ld.so.conf? If you don't, add those directories in two different lines and run ldconfig __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I already had /usr/lib in the /etc/ld.so.conf file. However, I went ahead and also added /usr/local/lib to the file and reran ldconfig. This did not fix the problem. Any other ideas/advice? Thanks, Chris Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
On Monday January 27 2003 09:14 am, AndrewD wrote: I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need to do something else with it first? Thanx If you d/l'd the iso with a browser, even if you didn't, make sure you check the integrity of the d/l'd file with 'md5sum'. You can get this value from the md5sum txt file from your d/l site. Then, cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao Linux-distro-filename.iso ^^^ ^^^Run 'cdrecord -scanbus' (as root) to check for your dev= numbers. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
Or simply use K3b and use create an ISO from the image. Cheers Jason Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday January 27 2003 09:14 am, AndrewD wrote: I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need to do something else with it first? Thanx If you d/l'd the iso with a browser, even if you didn't, make sure you check the integrity of the d/l'd file with 'md5sum'. You can get this value from the md5sum txt file from your d/l site. Then, cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao Linux-distro-filename.iso ^^^ ^^^Run 'cdrecord -scanbus' (as root) to check for your dev= numbers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OT
I enjoyed that very much! R http://w3.one.net/~sunlion/linuxriot.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] making an extra hdd bootable
Greetings, I downloaded a nifty bootable Linux CD called Knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/) and like the distro so I thought I would 'install' it on my spare 1 gig hd. I know I need to create some kind of boot partition and transfer 'system' files there somehow but haven't seen/found a lot of info on this subject. Can I partition the 1 gig with ML, do some neato magic to make the boot partition bootable and then just copy the contents of the cd to the remaining partition? I don't need to worry about lilo since I will be using cmos settings to make the 1 gig the primary boot disk. tia R - Richard L. Babcock, Owner Tower Training At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You! www.towertraining.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/01/26 Sun PM 09:45:57 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 22:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux. Anyway, I found a website that talked about adding package sources and I have added several (http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_softw are.html). Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install by running urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui). The process keeps balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states that libgal19 is already installed. I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed libgal.so.19 exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3. Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install. Thanks, Chris Do you have the /usr/lib and usr/local.lib path in /etc/ld.so.conf? If you don't, add those directories in two different lines and run ldconfig __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I already had /usr/lib in the /etc/ld.so.conf file. However, I went ahead and also added /usr/local/lib to the file and reran ldconfig. This did not fix the problem. Any other ideas/advice? Thanks, Chris Well you should try the following Delete the rpm database then in a terminal as root # rpm --rebuilddb Check your filesystem. I have seen this problem before where ldconf -v will see the file and the installer or compiler will not. It has happened in every case I have seen with a corrupted Reiserfs. And no matter how robust the filesystem is, there are circumstances which will prove disastrous to one, such as a power failure during writing which might result in a runaway drive processor. There may be an unresolved glitch in dependencies though usually the QA procedures nail them. In that case drop in the CD#1, boot and then select Expert Upgrade and select no groups then go on to individual package selection and toggle the list to alphabetical flat list, then scroll down to gnucash and check it. It may be that the deps list on the CD is corrupted or was unreadable in part--that will discover the flaw. I have used several 9.0 downloadable sets and I know gnucash is there and dependencies are satisfied, because I load it in the packages list diskette I always carry. Therefore we have one of the following problems: 1. depslist on CD not completely readable (low probability even considering frequent media-vs-drive problems, cause the more likely outcome of this problem is failure to install) 2. Filesystem corruption--particularly observable in version 8.0 using Reiserfs where ldconfig -v would see a file and a compiler or make or rpm would not. 3. rpm database corruption, resolved by rpm --rebuilddb IF you have it loaded. Difficult if not (like fresh install time after moving any data you want to keep to /home) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Making own screensaver ?
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:09:48 +0700 Rifza Adriansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi friends, I have some pictures ( jpg,bmp png files ). In M$ Windows, I can create a screensaver with tool like 1st Screensaver Builder 1.0 (www.1stsb.com). Could I create a screensaver in linux without having programming skill ?. If we need programming language to build screensavers, what is the language ?. TIA. Try chbg. Todd -- Todd Slater Mandrake Newbie mailing list help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help Got a great Mandrake-Linux tip bookmarked? Send it to me and I'll include it in my newbie tips fortune file! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution password
No.. both ways don't work. thanks for the help anyway. Best regards Joe On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 16:27, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 17:47, Joe wrote: Hi there, talking about Evolution (1.0.2)... i haven't been able to enter any contact into my Evolution's Contacts. Anything wrong here or something amiss? Thanks a lot for the help. Best regards Joe Have you tried dragging an email into the contacts folder? Or clicking on NEW, then CONTACT? (Just try as per steps) -- Sat Jan 18 19:25:00 EST 2003 7:25pm up 2 days, 5:08, 4 users, load average: 0.21, 0.25, 0.16 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Adam was but human--this explains it all. He did not want the apple for the apple's sake, he wanted it only because it was forbidden. The mistake was in not forbidding the serpent; then he would have eaten the serpent. -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution Sending
I think what he meant is offline or online, i don't care. don't send any emails until i tell you so, evolution! keep 'em in the outbox first. The M$ Outlook or Outlook Express has the option not to send messages immediately. That's what he wants, i guess. best regards Joe On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 12:04, Russ wrote: Hi Warren, This would be the perfect solution except that when I change to offline mode my send/Receive button is greyed out and won't let me send till I connect again. Is there a setting somewhere that I need to check? Thanks for the tip Russ On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 19:48, Warren Post wrote: El sáb, 18-01-2003 a las 01:47, Russ escribió: While we are at it, is there a way to have all messages sent to Outbox until I choose to send/receive instead of directly sending? Upon opening Evolution, click the connected cables icon in the lower left corner to put Evolution into offline mode. In offline mode, messages you write will go to the outbox until you explicitly chose to send and receive messages (you do not need to switch to online mode to send and receive). -- Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem - file/directory permissions using samba AND nfs
I have just searched thru about a year and a half worth of posts concerning this subject, but have not found a simple way of fixing this. We have a trusted home network, 3 Win98 clients, 1 WinME client, 1 MD 9.0 client and a MD 9.0 server/router/firewall setup. You can guess whom the MD 9.0 client belongs to! I have setup samba for the win clients, portion of smb.conf for shared: [shared] writable = Yes path = /mnt/shared/shared read only = No create mask = 0777 force create mode = 0777 directory mask = 0777 force directory mode = 0777 I admit I might have gone overboard by forcing everything to 0777 but didn't realize until tonight that nfs is in the picture and is causing problems - but hay, it works for the win clients anyways LOL Here is the line in /etc/exports for the shared directory; /mnt/shared/shared 192.168.1.15(rw) All win clients can create files/folders with no problems and other win clients can create and or modify anything into what another win client creates. Problem is that if I create anything to the shared directory using NFS, my permissions are assigned to it, and nobody else can make changes to it. I prefer NFS for my linux station over samba, so would like to keep things the way they are and not switch to samba for linux to linux file sharing. Is there a way for the NFS exports to have say 0777 assigned to all things created in those shares? I have tried adding all_squash to the /etc/exports file on the server, but that didn't help. A win client was not able to create another file/folder within a newly created folder by my mandrake box. The goal here is to basically make the shared resource read/writable by all clients, no matter whom might create any shared folders or files. Another thought is I might be able to change the line in exports to; /mnt/shared/shared 192.168.1.(rw) {but can that be done anyways in that format?) but am not too sure if that would work because the other win clients do not use NFS. Any ideas? TIA Steve -- Linux user #280097 Machine #162480 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer, but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable' somehow. On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 18:29, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 02:14, AndrewD wrote: I have just downloaded an ISO image for a Linux distribution which I want to test on my old PC, do I just burn the ISO onto a CD or do I need to do something else with it first? Thanx Short answer: Just burn. Microsoft Answer: After checking throroughly through the end-user-license agreement, and after carefully reading through all of the documentation concerning this application, make sure you have all the available patches and upgrades prior to initiating the process of creating an image of the file in question. Should there be legalities concerning copying the software, or infringement of intellectual properties, you can contact the Microsoft Piracy website for further information concerning this issue. If you are able to find that you can indeed create a copy of the software without any legal issues or copyright issues, you are going to either have to use Microsoft Windows XP or Home edition to burn the ISO image - but will need to download and install the patch/powertool necessary for the identification of ISO images directly from the Microsoft Update Centre. Once that has been secured and you've read through the EULA, install the powertool as you would any other software, and then reboot your workstation. If you are not running XP or Home Edition, you will have to secure a program necessary for burning CDR's. Microsoft can recommend several popular programs such as Adaptec EZ CD Writer and Nero Burning ROM. These can be purchased either online or through your local computer supplier. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images
I've seen a number of posts to this list that indicate the cd is simply a written copy of the iso. No insult intended but have you used the command that Tom Brinkman suggested? That should make you a bootable cd. If your still having problems perhaps your cmos will let you disable the hd as a bootable device. R - Richard L. Babcock, Owner Tower Training At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You! www.towertraining.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of AndrewD Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:02 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] newbie qustion on ISO images OK I have burnt the CD placed it in the CD Rom of the other computer, but it is still loading Linux (the PC currently has mandrake 9) and not the CD (and yes the PC does boot the cd first) so my next question is how do I now use the CD with the new ISO do I need to make it 'bootable' somehow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem - file/directory permissions using samba ANDnfs
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 15:37, Steve Jeppesen wrote: [shared] writable = Yes path = /mnt/shared/shared read only = No create mask = 0777 force create mode = 0777 directory mask = 0777 force directory mode = 0777 Any ideas? TIA Steve If you want a truly open/public share, you can do like this: [ddrive] comment = D Drive path = /mnt/d-drive read only = No public = Yes ...that's it...but you do have to set the security level to SHARE instead of USER. -- Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:20:01 +1100 4:20pm up 6:09, 4 users, load average: 1.54, 1.20, 0.84 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- It is true that if your paperboy throws your paper into the bushes for five straight days it can be explained by Newton's Law of Gravity. But it takes Murphy's law to explain why it is happening to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com