[newbie-it] Pan e librerie

2003-03-16 Per discussione Luigi Beltramini
salve,

sto cercando di installare pan 0.13.4 su mandrake 9.0
mi vengono richieste le seguenti librerie:

libXft.so.2   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
libXrandr.so.2   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
libaspell.so.15   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
libfontconfig.so.1   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
libpspell.so.15   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk

sapete dove posso trovarle?




Re: [newbie-it] Pan e librerie

2003-03-16 Per discussione Luigi Pinna
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Alle 18:57, sabato 15 marzo 2003, Luigi Beltramini ha scritto:
 salve,

 sto cercando di installare pan 0.13.4 su mandrake 9.0
 mi vengono richieste le seguenti librerie:

 libXft.so.2   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
 libXrandr.so.2   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
 libaspell.so.15   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
 libfontconfig.so.1   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk
 libpspell.so.15   is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk

 sapete dove posso trovarle?

Hai provato ad usare rpmdrake? Magari le trovi nei Cd; oppure tramite 
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/
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[newbie-it] Connettersi ad internet

2003-03-16 Per discussione Giaipur
Salve a tutti
Sono un nuovissimo utente del pinguino
Ho appena installato Mandrake 7.1, ma non riesco a collegarmi ad internet.
Da KDE faccio partire KPPP, ho cambiato la porta da /dev/modem a /dev/ttyS0
ho impostato la stringa di chiamata con ATX3DT
ho provato a modificare le altre impostazioni provando varie combinazioni,
ma niente.
Esce la scritta inizializzazione del modem e resta fermo li in eterno.
Qualcuno sa dirmi d+.
Ve ne sarei grato.
Ciao




[newbie-it] kernel panic

2003-03-16 Per discussione kua79
Parto con l'installazione di Mandrake 9.1, faccio le mie varie
configurazioni... HD, tastiera, mouse, bla bla... ad un certo punto si
impalla per colpa del cdrom (è un pò vecchiotto) allora resetto,
spengo, lo stacco e ne monto un altro che mi sono appena procurato.
Riprovo a far partire l'installazione ma mi da questo errore
kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03

why?!?!?!
Ma se prima era andato tutto liscio fino a quando il cdrom si e' messo
a fare i capricci perche' ora 
Ho provato a riprestinare l'hd come prima, anche se gia' immaginavo
che non sarebbe servito a nulla, ovvero con la sua partizione FAT32 ma
nada... sempre kernel panic.
gg !!!
grazie ciao Davide




[newbie-it] kernle panic (errore completo)

2003-03-16 Per discussione kua79
L'errore completo è

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
invalid compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 2728k freed
kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03






[newbie-it] Xine

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stefano Sebastiani
Pensavo che Xine non funzionasse e poi lanciandolo da terminale ho scoperto 
che abortiva per problemi audio, disattivato OSS Xine funziona ma non sento 
nulla

C'è modo di fargli usare il sistema audio configurato che penso essere alsa!?!

PS legge tutto ma mi sembra che lavori al ralenti e la mia macchina non è 
sicuramente sotto dimensionata (2 AMD 1800, 512 di ram Geforce 4 con 32 
mega!!!), cosa è che non fila!!!



[newbie-it] scribus e file qxd

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stefano Sebastiani
Collaboro con una rivista di settore (non informatica!) e gli articoli la 
tipografia me li inzia in qxd (Xpress) o pdf.

Se io li modifico devo inviare le modifiche per email tipo ( pagina 2 terza 
riga il numero 2 dopo CO deve essere spostato in pedice e diminuito di 
gerandezza) non vi dico i casini!

Ho provato a convertire i file pdf e correggerli e riconvertirli ma loro non 
possono ricaricarli in Xpress (il filtro pdf è solo in uscità!)

Se io potessi elaborare il file Xpress ad esempio con scribus e 
riconvertitglielo sarei MOLTO felice.

Qualcuno conosce filtri di conversione o prg che efettuino questo servizio!



Re: [newbie-it] Connettersi ad internet

2003-03-16 Per discussione miKe
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Alle 15:33, sabato 15 marzo 2003, Giaipur ha scritto:
 Salve a tutti
 Sono un nuovissimo utente del pinguino
 Ho appena installato Mandrake 7.1, 

mm
1999 o giù di li...
era meglio la 7.2, mooolto meglio
se hai una macchina vecchietta te la consiglio,
soprattutto perchè è stata la prima a montare reiserfs
(su un 2.2.17 patchato...)

o ti confondi con la 9.1 ?
;p

 ma non riesco a collegarmi ad
 internet. Da KDE faccio partire KPPP, ho cambiato la porta da
 /dev/modem a /dev/ttyS0 ho impostato la stringa di chiamata con
 ATX3DT
 ho provato a modificare le altre impostazioni provando varie
 combinazioni, ma niente.
 Esce la scritta inizializzazione del modem e resta fermo li in
 eterno. Qualcuno sa dirmi d+.

se interroghi il modem con kppp / minicom
cosa ti dice?
se non si inizializza,
non è colpa di ATDT ma dei comandi che lanci subito prima
(tipo ATZ o ATFH0 , ecc)


bye

miKe

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[newbie-it] help: invio email....

2003-03-16 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ciao a tutti,
uso la mdk 9.0, programma per la posta Kmail...accedo a internet tramite la
connessione a un server di rete locale ...il mio problema è che ho configurato
il gestore di posta per ricevere le email da più indirizzi e fin qui nessun
problema in quanto ricevo bene su tutti gli indirizzi...Tiscali,Virgilio e
IOL...il problema è per inviare email , le invia solo se uso Virgilio come
uscita . Eppure le configurazioni di Tiscali e IOL sono giusteriguardo ai
parametri per la posta in uscita...quindi quale può essere il problema? infatti
per inviare mail a questa mainlist devo aprire Netscape e loggarmi con IOL
Ringrazio tutti anticipatamenete




RE: [newbie-it] help: invio email....

2003-03-16 Per discussione Di Fresco Marco
[CUT]
 indirizzi...Tiscali,Virgilio e IOL...il problema è per inviare
 email , le invia solo se uso Virgilio come uscita . Eppure le
 configurazioni di Tiscali e IOL sono giusteriguardo ai
 parametri per la posta in uscita...quindi quale può essere il
 problema? infatti per inviare mail a questa mainlist devo aprire
 Netscape e loggarmi con IOL Ringrazio tutti anticipatamenete

Prova a immettere l'indirizzo SMTP di Virgilio negli altri account, dovrebbe
funzionare.

E' una tattica comune nella gestione di piu' indirizzi, in quanto molto
spesso i provider (specialmente quelli gratuiti) lasciano il permesso di
accedere ai server POP3 (che sono quelli appositi per ricever la posta) dei
provider concorrenti, ma vietano l'accesso ai server SMTP (che sono quelli
appositi per gestire l'invio delle e-mail) per (almeno dicono) questioni di
sicurezza e anti spam.

Quindi per risolvere il problema, quando si configurano piu' indirizzi, si
tengono validi i server POP3 di ogni provider, ma si usa sempre lo stesso
server SMTP che e' quello del provider con cui ci si connette ad internet.



Di Fresco Marco
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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Bart Salien
Op Sunday 16 March 2003 04:02, schreef Ronald J. Hall:
 Okay, I'm still having some hardware problems. I installed and ran memtest
 overnight, about 24 passes with no errors.

 I grabbed and installed cpuburn 1.4 last night, then ran burnMMX.

 It won't run longer than 2 minutes before I get a full lockup that requires
 a hardware reset or powerdown and back up.

 That from a shell with X running and without.

 This is an AMD XP2100, 512megs DDR (PNY) Ram, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Nvidia
 Geforce 4 Ti4200, etc, etc, with nothing overclocked.

 The CPU has a 5 1/4, 3000 rpm fan/heatsink attached to it, and BIOS reports
 50 degrees celsius for it, and 27 degrees Celsius for the system.

 Intense games cause crashes, some with direct references to memory.
 Example, Warcraft 3 gives this:

 ---
 This application has encountered a critical
 error:

 FATAL ERROR!
 Program:  C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\war3.exe
 Exception:0xC005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:6F58A844

 The instruction at '0x6F58A844' referenced memory at '0x7FF8FE63'.
 The memory could not be 'read'.
 ---


 The literature with cpuburn suggests that my CPU is not getting cooled
 enough but from what I've read, 50 degrees Celsius should be okay, right?

 So what does everyone else think? Sure could use some insight. (Tom
 Brinkman, you around anywhere? grin)

 PS Note that all the hardware is basically new, less than 3 months old.


Roland ,

I' m not so sure that the indication of the cpu temp. is always so accurate .
A good thing to try is when the machine locks up , reboot emmidiatly (so 
everything is still hot) , and run the test again . When it is the 
temperature which gives problems , it now should lock up even faster .

a second thing is trying to switch memory as suggested by Ian .

Good luck .

Bart.


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Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Benjamin Pflugmann
Hi.

On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:03:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 15 March 2003 10:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a
  while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way
  of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back
  - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to
  specREALLY APPRECIATE!
 
 Stephen, is this what you want  (attached file) ?

Hehe. As Linus said, backup are for wimps. Real men let just the
public mirror important stuff. :-)

Bye,

Benjamin:


PS: The original quote is:

Only wimps use tape backup: *real* men just upload their
important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world mirror
it ;) -- Linus Torvalds (about his failing hard drive)



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[newbie] How to disable Win key?

2003-03-16 Per discussione Yoel P. Krigsman
Hello...

I have one of my computers running in CLI mode at all times as my
monitor is very old. 

Every time I use the computer and I accidentally hit the Win key, it
advances to the next TTY port higher than the previous one. 

HOW can I disable that function so that it won't do anything if I
accidentally hit the Win key? 

Yoel Krigsman

P.S. Win key is the key between alt and Ctrl on the left side of the
keyboard.


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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Benjamin Pflugmann
Hi.

On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:01:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Should be fine at 50C.  If your memory is in 2 sticks, try taking one out.
 If it still crashes, switch them!  If it's ok you've found your problem.

I doubt it is a memory problem. I am no hardware expert but had my
share of misc. hardware problems and never had or heard of faulty
memory causing immediate lock-ups.

I agree with the docs which suggest either bad cooling (fan, bad heat
dissipation, ...) or bad power supply (power supply unit, connector,
motherboard, ...) are probably causes.

Ronald, what kind of power supply do you have? 230W, 300W? (or
whatever is standard where you come from ;)

 Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card
 - they can get real hot too.

Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open
case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever
that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a
difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up.

 What speed and timings are you running the memory at?  Try slowing it down
 to CAS 2.5 or set it to a safer setting in BIOS

Can this really be the cause of lock-ups? Never had that happen to me.

 From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
 I grabbed and installed cpuburn 1.4 last night, then ran burnMMX.
 
 It won't run longer than 2 minutes before I get a full lockup that
 requires a hardware reset or powerdown and back up.
 
 That from a shell with X running and without.
 
 This is an AMD XP2100, 512megs DDR (PNY) Ram, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Nvidia
 Geforce 4 Ti4200, etc, etc, with nothing overclocked.
 
 The CPU has a 5 1/4, 3000 rpm fan/heatsink attached to it, and BIOS
 reports 50 degrees celsius for it, and 27 degrees Celsius for the
 system.
[...]
 The literature with cpuburn suggests that my CPU is not getting
 cooled enough but from what I've read, 50 degrees Celsius should be
 okay, right?

Well, I would put more credibility in the CPU lock-up than into what
the BIOS is reporting. ;-)

 PS Note that all the hardware is basically new, less than 3 months
 old.

HTH,

Benjamin.



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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Tom Brinkman
On Saturday March 15 2003 09:02 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, I'm still having some hardware problems. I installed and ran
 memtest overnight, about 24 passes with no errors.

 I grabbed and installed cpuburn 1.4 last night, then ran burnMMX.

 It won't run longer than 2 minutes before I get a full lockup that
 requires a hardware reset or powerdown and back up.

Google: Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring.  There's 
better ways to tryin shutdown before usin the panic button ;)

 That from a shell with X running and without.


Weak motherboard, power supply, ram, among other things including 
bios (mis)configuration could be involved. Your mobo looks good but 
that's a very poor memory vendor. Try setting the ram to cas3 with 
bank interleaving disabled.  Use lm_sensors and check frequently when 
the system is under varying to heavy load to see if the voltages are 
at or above spec and _stay steady_.  See who made the PSU and check 
to see if it, and the cpu heatsink (your mobo is) are AMD appr'vd
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html

 This is an AMD XP2100, 512megs DDR (PNY) Ram, Soyo Dragon Plus MB,
 Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200, etc, etc, with nothing overclocked.

   If you're using the proprietary nvidia driver, you should add
'mem=nopentium' to lilo.conf's append= line. Run 'lilo' and reboot.

Another very good system test is prime95.
ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz
D/l and extract that file to a dir by itself.  Then in that dir 
run   ./mprime -mand from the menu choose 17), the torture test.
You should be able to complete that without stopping on hardware 
errors.  Make sure you can before tryin cpuburn again. This mprime 
test takes many hours, so plan on overnite.

 The CPU has a 5 1/4, 3000 rpm fan/heatsink attached to it, and BIOS
 reports 50 degrees celsius for it, and 27 degrees Celsius for the
 system.

 Heatsink should have a 5000 rpm fan on it. The heatsink should  
be sitting on the cpu die with a thin layer of thermal grease. A 
thermal pad won't do, specially for Athlons.

Heat could well be causing your problems. The cpu temp you see in 
bios is almost useless. Your system isn't fully booted into an OS 
yet, and is under low load.   To see if better heatsink or case 
cooling is needed, take the case cover off and point a table fan into 
the case. If your system then runs without, or with little problem, 
you need a better hs-fan and/or case cooling. Do so soon, 'cause 
letting the system overheat (too many times) will make the system 
weaker from then on. Could even be permanently damaged (fubar'd).

 Intense games cause crashes, some with direct references to memory.
 Example, Warcraft 3 gives this:

Games don't make good system tests or benchmarks, despite many 
people thinking they do.  'Sides, many crash all by themselves.

 The literature with cpuburn suggests that my CPU is not getting
 cooled enough but from what I've read, 50 degrees Celsius should be
 okay, right?

 Yes, if it's monitored when the system is fully booted up and 
working under load. No, when it's from bios. Keep in mind that the 
temps you're seeing are from an external probe, and are only 
indicative of approximate cpu temp. The cpu internal core temp is at 
least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher.  XP's made since last July 
do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's 
no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do, 
at least not properly.

 PS Note that all the hardware is basically new, less than 3
 months old.

Still, check for dust bunnies ... and make sure that cpu heatsink 
isn't on a pad, and is on some grease.  When you get cooling right, 
you should be able to run cpuburn's burnK7 (or burnK6 will do) for at 
least 15 to 20 minutes. Run for an hour, it means your system is 
bulletproof.  You might need to give that PNY ram to somebody you 
don't like, and get some Crucial, Corsair, or Samsung cas2 ram ;
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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:14 am, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
 Hi.

 On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:01:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Should be fine at 50C.  If your memory is in 2 sticks, try taking one
  out. If it still crashes, switch them!  If it's ok you've found your
  problem.

 I doubt it is a memory problem. I am no hardware expert but had my
 share of misc. hardware problems and never had or heard of faulty
 memory causing immediate lock-ups.

 I agree with the docs which suggest either bad cooling (fan, bad heat
 dissipation, ...) or bad power supply (power supply unit, connector,
 motherboard, ...) are probably causes.


It sounds to me like poor cooling, but bad memory can easily be the problem 
too.


  What speed and timings are you running the memory at?  Try slowing it
  down to CAS 2.5 or set it to a safer setting in BIOS

 Can this really be the cause of lock-ups? Never had that happen to me.

Yes. Memory that might be fine at CAS 2.5 that doen't like CAS 2 could easily 
cause the symptoms described.




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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:46 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher.  XP's made since last July
 do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's
 no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do,
 at least not properly.

Many of the newer motherboards can read the diode, just lm_sensors does not 
always have a driver for the sensor chip.
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[newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione David E. Fox
OK, ran a urpmi --auto-select last night and updated lots of things.

I needed to print something out of kword and although everything looks
correct, nothing comes out of the printer. Cups is updated, I ran
printerdrake, it's sending the test pages to the printer and then it
just disappears into thin air.

The parport modules are loaded and everything else seems fine - I
don't think it's a kernel issue - although I have kernel-source for
2.4.21, the kernel rpm is still at 2.4.19.



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Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Sunday 16 March 2003 10:32 am, David E. Fox wrote:
 OK, ran a urpmi --auto-select last night and updated lots of things.

 I needed to print something out of kword and although everything looks
 correct, nothing comes out of the printer. Cups is updated, I ran
 printerdrake, it's sending the test pages to the printer and then it
 just disappears into thin air.

 The parport modules are loaded and everything else seems fine - I
 don't think it's a kernel issue - although I have kernel-source for
 2.4.21, the kernel rpm is still at 2.4.19.
You might check the permissions. I had mozilla quit working after a update and 
the /usr/bin/mozilla permissions had gone back to root. So I changed them to 
user and it works again. Cups may have the same problem although which 
package  is  called on print I am not sure.  Maybe userdrake and add printer? 
HTH
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[newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height

2003-03-16 Per discussione cervixcouch

For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help'
to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the
height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the
information.  

Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left
hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either.

Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed?  
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Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 4:32 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
 OK, ran a urpmi --auto-select last night and updated lots of things.

 I needed to print something out of kword and although everything looks
 correct, nothing comes out of the printer. Cups is updated, I ran
 printerdrake, it's sending the test pages to the printer and then it
 just disappears into thin air.

 The parport modules are loaded and everything else seems fine - I
 don't think it's a kernel issue - although I have kernel-source for
 2.4.21, the kernel rpm is still at 2.4.19.


What sort of printer do you have?
The last update of printer-utils broke operation with HP Deskjet 720 series.

The fix is to edit  /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and set the version parameter for your 
printer type.

Mandrake 9.1 has been fixed so it should be OK.

HTh

derek

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[newbie] disable system clock sync?

2003-03-16 Per discussione Jerry Barton
OK I really did try searching the archives for this but after going through 30+ pages 
of results I gave up.
on boot up/shutdown how do you disable the syncing of the system clock?
actually just need to know how to disable it durring shutdown since i hacked around a 
bit and got the startup syncing to work (it was hanging on a line of code that i 
commented out and now works fine) but if i need to reboot/shutodown it hangs on 
syncing the system clock (i let it sit once to see if it was just slow... a half hour 
later i used the sys req key combos to reboot).  I haven't had a successful shutdown 
since installing 9.0 (it worked in 8.2) and have been trying to find the answer.  It 
wasn't a really big deal since I don't shutdown or reboot often (i love linux!) but 
we're in the stormy season here and I shutdown durring electrical storms which will be 
happening frequently soon.  

Thanks in advance for the always excellent help you all give!

Jerry.

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Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height

2003-03-16 Per discussione Simon Prosser
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On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 5:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
 For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help'
 to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the
 height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the
 information.

 Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left
 hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either.

 Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed?
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if a box is too big and you cant see all of it you can drag it around by 
holding down ALT then left-clicking on the box...you can now drag it about :D
I have this problem all the time with my poor old 800x600 laptop.
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Re: [newbie] Off list for a while

2003-03-16 Per discussione Miark
Civileme,

Your absence will make a certain, negative impact on Mandrake's free-support 
community and I cannot help but feel that it will do little or nothing to
increase revenue at MandrakeExpert. I see this as a net loss for Mandrake,
not a net gain.

But if a break from the lists will allow you to increase the quality of your
life and career, then by all means, do it. That's the only reason you need.

I very much look forward to your return.

Miark



On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:21:31 -0900
civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was looking at the Mandrakesoft site recently and I saw a recommendation for 
 folks to use MandrakeExpert rather than these mailing lists.
 
 I hate the web interface and It required a great effort with databases to keep 
 up with the incidents when I was answering questions on the MandrakeExpert 
 site.  I guess the advantage of local copies in the email is pretty great.
 
 Anyway, it occurs to me that what help I give here is essentially competing 
 with something that could generate revenue for Mandrakesoft and I know they 
 need it.
 
 After 8 months, I am still seeking employment following the Mandrakesoft 
 layoffs, so I can say the market for jobs in hi-tech is atrocious.  Even in 
 another area where I am a professional, technical writing, there is 
 nothing...  well, nothing without a hundred applicants willing to work cheap.
 
 If any of you know of jobs in your area email me off-list.  I am ready to 
 relocate, even to NZ.
 
 So goodbye..
 
 Civileme
  
 
 

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Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height

2003-03-16 Per discussione Jerry Barton
WOW COOL!  I wasn't having such an issue with the linuxconf help window but when i'd 
start xchat it'd place the window half way off the top of the screen (so i couldn't 
grab the titlebar) making it (i thought) unusable unless i switched to iceWM which 
will let me place the window with my mouse when a program starts. (dunno if there was 
a way to make fluxbox do that... or KDE)


Another one of those really spiffy tips that i wouldn't have known if i hadn't been 
here!

Jerry.


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  information.
 
  Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left
  hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either.
 
  Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed?
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[newbie] Turn off auto connect to ISP on boot??

2003-03-16 Per discussione Bob Read
I installed LM8.1 then upgraded to LM8.2  and have been
automatically connected to my ISP on boot.  Now I am using
that computer as a backup, and don't want it normally
connected.  Can someone tell me how to turn off the
automatic KPPP connection?
Much thanks,

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Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height

2003-03-16 Per discussione David Williams
On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
 For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help'
 to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the
 height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the
 information.

 Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left
 hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either.

 Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed?

Dont' know why, but I couldn't get them to resize either. You can hold down 
the ALT key and then drag with the mouse to see what you need to see.
David

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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Douglas B.
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 14:14, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
 Hi.
snip
 
  Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card
  - they can get real hot too.
 
 Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open
 case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever
 that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a
 difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up.

snip

Actually no need to be too nervous - I've been running my PC without its
back for the last 18 months [but no fan], after it started repeatedly
shutting down or re-booting while running Win$ or during boot-up, all
because of dicey CPU cooling. Now, no problems. 

Good luck!



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Re: [newbie] Turn off auto connect to ISP on boot??

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 23:44, Bob Read wrote:
 I installed LM8.1 then upgraded to LM8.2  and have been
 automatically connected to my ISP on boot.  Now I am using
 that computer as a backup, and don't want it normally
 connected.  Can someone tell me how to turn off the
 automatic KPPP connection?
 Much thanks,
 Bob

You should be able to run linuxconf and turn it off under the networking
option - or go back through KPPP and turn it off. It would be better to
use KPPP and just delete the connection setup so that it's empty, but
you still might want to check through in linuxconf and make sure that
it's really really off...HTH

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and a driving force that can get the country to a level of energy, ambition,
and will that I do not see in any other undertaking.  I think if we are
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strongly.  I sincerely believe that the space program, with its manned
landing on the moon, if wisely executed, will become the spearhead for a
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Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione David E. Fox
 What sort of printer do you have?
 The last update of printer-utils broke operation with HP Deskjet 720 series.

Mine's a Canon BJC 250.

 The fix is to edit  /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and set the version parameter for your 
 printer type.

No go on that - is that only for the dexkjet?



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Re: [newbie] How to disable Win key?

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 00:53, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
 Hello...
 
 I have one of my computers running in CLI mode at all times as my
 monitor is very old. 
 
 Every time I use the computer and I accidentally hit the Win key, it
 advances to the next TTY port higher than the previous one. 
 
 HOW can I disable that function so that it won't do anything if I
 accidentally hit the Win key? 
 
 Yoel Krigsman
 
 P.S. Win key is the key between alt and Ctrl on the left side of the
 keyboard.

Have you tried changing the keyboard layouts? And if that doesn't work,
what about utilising a flat-head screwdriver to physically remove the
Win key from the keyboard - then you won't hit it accidentally anymore,
ay? (JOKING); I would assume, ASSUME that by changing the keyboard
layout to 101-standard that it would disable that special key...but
then again, I could be wrong. I hate keyboards like that anyways...I
prefer the nice, old fashioned ones...

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Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 00:47, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
 Hi.
 
 On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:03:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 15 March 2003 10:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a
   while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way
   of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back
   - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to
   specREALLY APPRECIATE!
  
  Stephen, is this what you want  (attached file) ?
 
 Hehe. As Linus said, backup are for wimps. Real men let just the
 public mirror important stuff. :-)
 
 Bye,
 
   Benjamin:
 
 
 PS: The original quote is:
 
 Only wimps use tape backup: *real* men just upload their
 important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world mirror
 it ;) -- Linus Torvalds (about his failing hard drive)

How funny - but how true.
I constantly back up my customers machines to my network - so that I can
scan'em for bugs, burn cd's of their stuff, yadda yadda yadda - but when
it comes to MY stuff, well, I never do anything. As a matter of fact,
last week when I made my complete move to MDK  on my primary box, I
SWORE that I was going to setup a backup to another partition or to the
network so that if I do crash'n'burn again, I'll have a backup - but
still ain't got around to doing it.

At least it's great to know that I did get my procmailrc back (have
heaps of editing to do to it) - thanks to Kaj - maybe I oughta start
posting my entire ~/home/mynamegoeshere directory to the list?

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greater amounts!  So, open your mouth, lad!  For every voice counts!  Thus he
spoke as he climbed.  When they got to the top, the lad cleared his throat and
he shouted out, YOPP! 
And that Yopp...  That one last small, extra Yopp put it over!
Finally, at last!  From the speck on that clover their voices were heard!
They rang out clear and clean.  And they elephant smiled.  Do you see what
I mean? They've proved they ARE persons, no matter how small.  And their
whole world was saved by the smallest of All!
How true!  Yes, how true, said the big kangaroo.  And, from now
on, you know what I'm planning to do?  From now on, I'm going to protect
them with you!  And the young kangaroo in her pouch said, ME TOO!  From
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Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione David E. Fox
 You might check the permissions. I had mozilla quit working after a



It doesn't seem to be a permissions issue as I've attempted to print
the test pages manually as root using lpr. Same issue - the print job
mysteriously disappears - gs is not started, and the lpq just tells me
printer is idle.

If I turn the printer off, lpc says the printer is ready. That's odd.

I'm going to try removing the printer and then adding it back and see
if that fixes things. Well, what do you know, that works :).

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Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 7:57 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
  What sort of printer do you have?
  The last update of printer-utils broke operation with HP Deskjet 720
  series.

 Mine's a Canon BJC 250.

  The fix is to edit  /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and set the version parameter for
  your printer type.

 No go on that - is that only for the dexkjet?

Yes

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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Ian Trickett
You mean some folks actually have cases on their computers?
Seriously though, make sure that any vents, holes etc especially those in
the back of the power supply are not blocked by dust, as this is often the
only way to exhaust hot air from the case.  If you do have a case fan, make
sure it's working.
Ian

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From: Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Beginners' Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest


 On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 14:14, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
  Hi.
 snip
 
   Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card
   - they can get real hot too.
 
  Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open
  case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever
  that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a
  difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up.

 snip

 Actually no need to be too nervous - I've been running my PC without its
 back for the last 18 months [but no fan], after it started repeatedly
 shutting down or re-booting while running Win$ or during boot-up, all
 because of dicey CPU cooling. Now, no problems.

 Good luck!



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Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker

2003-03-16 Per discussione Kaj Haulrich
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:07 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
  You might check the permissions. I had mozilla quit
  working after a

 It doesn't seem to be a permissions issue as I've
 attempted to print the test pages manually as root using
 lpr. Same issue - the print job mysteriously disappears -
 gs is not started, and the lpq just tells me printer is
 idle.

 If I turn the printer off, lpc says the printer is ready.
 That's odd.

 I'm going to try removing the printer and then adding it
 back and see if that fixes things. Well, what do you
 know, that works :).

  Dennis M. linux user #180842

This rings a bell for me : recently I got a new HP 3820 as a 
very cheap replacement for my HP 930c (which my kids stole) 
and had a frustrating experience to get the damned thing 
working under 9.0. Finally, before giving up and returning 
the bastard, I used webmin. Voila - succes !

Try webmin.

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Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes

2003-03-16 Per discussione David E. Fox

 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=procmailrc
 
 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin

Hmm. Once I tried procmail and lost a lot of mails as well :(. If you
don't set the .procmailrc correctly it can be problematic.

 # It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your
 # spam in one shot:
 :0
 * !^Message-Id
 {
 LOG = No ID 
 :0
 /dev/null
 }

Hmm. I didn't think you could send email without a Message-ID.

Anyway, I finally got around to installing SpamAssasin, which 
si also purported to be very good at catching spam. 



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Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 08:46, David E. Fox wrote:
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=procmailrc
  
  PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
 
 Hmm. Once I tried procmail and lost a lot of mails as well :(. If you
 don't set the .procmailrc correctly it can be problematic.
 

Maybe all your email is spam, ay?

  # It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your
  # spam in one shot:
  :0
  * !^Message-Id
  {
  LOG = No ID 
  :0
  /dev/null
  }
 
 Hmm. I didn't think you could send email without a Message-ID.
 

There are ways of sending messages without a message-ID - tools that
spammers use have that ability mate.

 Anyway, I finally got around to installing SpamAssasin, which 
 si also purported to be very good at catching spam. 
 
You can still use a really good /etc/procmailrc along with SpamAssassin
- you can never have enough protection. It's like wearing two rubbers!

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[newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
Ok...being that I ain't go my 50,000 emails from the past few months, I
have had a brain fart and can't, for the life of me, figger out how to
get mp3lame to work with MPlayer - and I remember this being on the list
before - so, in essence, am I to recompile/configure MPlayer, or is
there something I ain't tried yet? I've sucked heaps of stuff offa the
PLF Cooker site - and have tried to do any type of update with urpmi -
but unless I'm missing a brain cell or two, I can't update cuz I'm
running 9.1rc2...

Enlightenment from anyone? C'mon - help a RedHatter become more of a
Mandrakian?

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[newbie]

2003-03-16 Per discussione Rene Boeije
Title: Bericht





Mv.Gr.
Rene Boeije
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Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Damian Gatabria
On Sunday 16 de March 2003 19:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 Ok...being that I ain't go my 50,000 emails from the past few months, I
 have had a brain fart and can't, for the life of me, figger out how to
 get mp3lame to work with MPlayer - and I remember this being on the list
 before - so, in essence, am I to recompile/configure MPlayer, or is
 there something I ain't tried yet? I've sucked heaps of stuff offa the
 PLF Cooker site - and have tried to do any type of update with urpmi -
 but unless I'm missing a brain cell or two, I can't update cuz I'm
 running 9.1rc2...

 Enlightenment from anyone? C'mon - help a RedHatter become more of a
 Mandrakian?

urpmi -a mp3lame0  

will provide everything you need for a normal recompile 
of MPlayer to detect and use mp3lame.

what does `rpm -qa | grep mp3` tell you?

HTH

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Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 09:53, Damian Gatabria wrote:

 urpmi -a mp3lame0  
 
Output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame0
no package named mp3lame0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame
no package named mp3lame
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame*
no package named mp3lame*

Wuzza!?!?! (sniff)

 will provide everything you need for a normal recompile 
 of MPlayer to detect and use mp3lame.
 
...but it didn't...(waah!)

 what does `rpm -qa | grep mp3` tell you?
 
Output:
# rpm -qa | grep mp3

libmp3lame0-3.93.1-1plf
mp32ogg-0.11-2mdk
mp3info-0.8.4-6mdk
libgmp3-4.1.2-1mdk
libgmp3-devel-4.1.2-1mdk
libmp3lame0-devel-3.93.1-1plf


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Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height

2003-03-16 Per discussione cervixcouch
Right after I sent the email, I figured out that I could use the ALT key to 
click and drag the window.  Figures. ;)

Thanks for help regardless, everyone.

The odd thing is that this window behaviour isn't consistent for all .help 
files.  Some open up with a scroll bar and some don't.

Does anyone know what program is responsible for producing these windows?  
Nothing in Control Center seems to affect it.

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Re: [newbie]

2003-03-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 16 March 2003 23:40, Rene Boeije wrote:
 Mv.Gr.
 Rene Boeije
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Did I miss something?

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Damian Gatabria
On Sunday 16 de March 2003 20:12, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 09:53, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  urpmi -a mp3lame0

 Output:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame0
 no package named mp3lame0
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame
 no package named mp3lame
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame*
 no package named mp3lame*
 
 Wuzza!?!?! (sniff)



hm..

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa | grep mp3
libmp3lame0-3.93-0.20021107.1plf
libgmp3-4.1-3mdk
libmp3lame0-devel-3.93-0.20021107.1plf
libgmp3-devel-4.1-3mdk


...almost the same as you... only my packages seem older.

How exactly are you trying to use MPlayer? have you
tried  CVS or are you just using RPMS?

(FWIW i always use the source. In fact i made a small
script that updates MPlayer and most of it's codecs
and run it every week or so...)

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Re: [newbie]

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Sunday 16 March 2003 23:40, Rene Boeije wrote:
  Mv.Gr.
  Rene Boeije
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Did I miss something?
 
 Good luck,
 HarM

Uh, I think we ALL missed something here - unless Rene is using the new
i18n based font called INVISIBLE - which, of course, if Rene wrote a
message in that, we'd not see it because we don't have that font
installed...(or some other lame excuse)

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Re: [newbie]

2003-03-16 Per discussione H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 17 March 2003 00:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
  On Sunday 16 March 2003 23:40, Rene Boeije wrote:
   Mv.Gr.
   Rene Boeije
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Did I miss something?
 
  Good luck,
  HarM

 Uh, I think we ALL missed something here - unless Rene is using the new
 i18n based font called INVISIBLE - which, of course, if Rene wrote a
 message in that, we'd not see it because we don't have that font
 installed...(or some other lame excuse)

Nah, I just took a look at the source that's arial using Outlook in html.

I think this guy needs help fast (or reanimation) it's like watching the 
bubbles in the water where somebody just called HELP a few moments before.

Maybe we could use one of your sigs for an epitaph if we're too late, eh?

Rene, ...Rene! You OK?

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Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:34, Damian Gatabria wrote:

 ...almost the same as you... only my packages seem older.
 
 How exactly are you trying to use MPlayer? have you
 tried  CVS or are you just using RPMS?
 
I did it the Mandrake way this time'round - the RPM way!

 (FWIW i always use the source. In fact i made a small
 script that updates MPlayer and most of it's codecs
 and run it every week or so...)
 
Why not post the script for those of us that are less lucky than you?
(or less smart than you)
(g)

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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:01 am, Ian Trickett wrote:
 Should be fine at 50C.  If your memory is in 2 sticks, try taking one out.
 If it still crashes, switch them!  If it's ok you've found your problem.
 Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card - they
 can get real hot too.
 What speed and timings are you running the memory at?  Try slowing it down
 to CAS 2.5 or set it to a safer setting in BIOS
 Good luck!
 Ian

I'll try that tomorrow. The video card has its own fan, I've left the slot 
next to it open (since the card is AGP you're not supposed to use the PCI 
slot next to it anyways, right?). I've got the fan from the P/S, as well as a 
case fan up front. 4 fans total, counting the CPU fan.

Memory settings are left at the default (auto?) for the Soyo Dragon Plus MB.

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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:24 am, Bart Salien wrote:

 Roland ,

Er, its Ronald (all my friends call me Ron) but Roland is okay - love the 
French hero of the same name (Durandana and Olifant!) (sp?)  :-)

 I' m not so sure that the indication of the cpu temp. is always so accurate
 . A good thing to try is when the machine locks up , reboot emmidiatly (so
 everything is still hot) , and run the test again . When it is the
 temperature which gives problems , it now should lock up even faster .

Well, going by that then I don't think its temperature. Why? Because I can and 
have run this system for 24 hours straight - no problems. I can run the games 
that give me problems after the system has been on for hours or minutes - and 
the games will lock up at different times - I've been able to play UT2003, 
for example, for 2-3 hours, then other times, can't play it for 2-3 minutes.

cpuburn, on the other hand - *always* locks up within 2 minutes.

 a second thing is trying to switch memory as suggested by Ian .

Gonna do that tomorrow for sure.

 Good luck .

 Bart.

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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:14 am, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:

 I doubt it is a memory problem. I am no hardware expert but had my
 share of misc. hardware problems and never had or heard of faulty
 memory causing immediate lock-ups.

Okay, just to be clear, the immediate (2 minutes or less) lockup is with 
cpuburn only - normally the system sits and runs for hours and hours. Some 
games segfault out (and the time varies there).

 I agree with the docs which suggest either bad cooling (fan, bad heat
 dissipation, ...) or bad power supply (power supply unit, connector,
 motherboard, ...) are probably causes.

 Ronald, what kind of power supply do you have? 230W, 300W? (or
 whatever is standard where you come from ;)

A less than 3 months old 350 watt power supply.

 Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open
 case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever
 that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a
 difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up.

I think I will try running with the case off to see if it does make a 
difference.

 HTH,

   Benjamin.

Thanks for the advice!

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Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest

2003-03-16 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:46 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:

 Google: Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring.  There's
 better ways to tryin shutdown before usin the panic button ;)

Well, I tried to kill out of my Xserver using control alt backspace but 
that didn't work so I tried control alt Fx (fill in numbers 1 thru 10 
for x) but it wouldn't let me leave. I also tried the venerable control 
alt delete but no go there either. Locked up tighter than a tap washer.  
grin So...was there something else I could have done before hitting the 
hardware switches? Thanks!

 Weak motherboard, power supply, ram, among other things including
 bios (mis)configuration could be involved. Your mobo looks good but
 that's a very poor memory vendor. Try setting the ram to cas3 with
 bank interleaving disabled.  Use lm_sensors and check frequently when
 the system is under varying to heavy load to see if the voltages are
 at or above spec and _stay steady_.  See who made the PSU and check
 to see if it, and the cpu heatsink (your mobo is) are AMD appr'vd
 http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,0
0.html

I'll go there and check that.

If you're using the proprietary nvidia driver, you should add
 'mem=nopentium' to lilo.conf's append= line. Run 'lilo' and reboot.

I'll try that as well...

 Another very good system test is prime95.
 ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz
 D/l and extract that file to a dir by itself.  Then in that dir
 run   ./mprime -mand from the menu choose 17), the torture test.
 You should be able to complete that without stopping on hardware
 errors.  Make sure you can before tryin cpuburn again. This mprime
 test takes many hours, so plan on overnite.

Ditto

  Heatsink should have a 5000 rpm fan on it. The heatsink should
 be sitting on the cpu die with a thin layer of thermal grease. A
 thermal pad won't do, specially for Athlons.

Looks like I'll need to upgrade that then. I did use thermal grease, and not a 
pad. I hear they deterioate after awhile (one of your messages! smile).

 Heat could well be causing your problems. The cpu temp you see in
 bios is almost useless. Your system isn't fully booted into an OS
 yet, and is under low load.   To see if better heatsink or case
 cooling is needed, take the case cover off and point a table fan into
 the case. If your system then runs without, or with little problem,
 you need a better hs-fan and/or case cooling. Do so soon, 'cause
 letting the system overheat (too many times) will make the system
 weaker from then on. Could even be permanently damaged (fubar'd).

Gonna try that as well.

 Games don't make good system tests or benchmarks, despite many
 people thinking they do.  'Sides, many crash all by themselves.

I know, just trying to give some examples of whats going on.

  Yes, if it's monitored when the system is fully booted up and
 working under load. No, when it's from bios. Keep in mind that the
 temps you're seeing are from an external probe, and are only
 indicative of approximate cpu temp. The cpu internal core temp is at
 least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher.  XP's made since last July
 do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's
 no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do,
 at least not properly.

Okay, I got it.

 Still, check for dust bunnies ... and make sure that cpu heatsink
 isn't on a pad, and is on some grease.  When you get cooling right,
 you should be able to run cpuburn's burnK7 (or burnK6 will do) for at
 least 15 to 20 minutes. Run for an hour, it means your system is
 bulletproof.  You might need to give that PNY ram to somebody you
 don't like, and get some Crucial, Corsair, or Samsung cas2 ram ;

I hear ya grin

Thanks for the reply Tom!

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Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height

2003-03-16 Per discussione Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Williams wrote:
 On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote:
  For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help'
  to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the
  height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the
  information.
 
  Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left
  hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either.
 
  Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed?
 
 Dont' know why, but I couldn't get them to resize either. You can hold down 
 the ALT key and then drag with the mouse to see what you need to see.
 David

Well, that's going to help a lot here.  I'll finally be able to use Linuxconf.
It does leave me to wonder why the boxes are so huge: a lot of them have a lot of 
really empty space.

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Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Damian Gatabria
On Sunday 16 de March 2003 22:18, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:34, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  ...almost the same as you... only my packages seem older.
 
  How exactly are you trying to use MPlayer? have you
  tried  CVS or are you just using RPMS?

 I did it the Mandrake way this time'round - the RPM way!

OK.. So now you could try source. This way you will be able to tell
if the problem is specific to the RPM package.


 Why not post the script for those of us that are less lucky than you?

OK. but...

WARNING!

This script is (obviously) made specially for my own
preferences and system configuration. It takes no parameters, no
arguments, it's really dumb (i.e. poor error-checking) and may overwrite some
of your libs with the new versions it downloads. So, before you try to run
it, read it well and change it to your liking as to make sure you will not
lose something you care about. 

It contains 4 files. 

One is called config-command. It is simply the `./configure` call, with all 
the parameters i like to use. You will definitely want to read this one and
alter it as you see fit. Especially if you want to enable DVD support which
i explicitly disable, and also some drivers which i cannot use that you may
like. --I made the ./configure in a separate file simply
because this way i found it easier to tweak... instead of seeking to the
right part in the main script.

The second is getsdl. Simply checks out, compiles and installs the
latest CVS snapshot for the SDL library, which i use a lot. (i made this
because MDK packages for SDL are not recognized/found by MPlayer's
./configure. Broken package, maybe? i dunno.) If you do not care about sdl
drivers in MPlayer, you do not need this. The main script does not call or
need this file. I ran it separately once or twice.

The third is the real script, getmplayer. It gets the MPlayer CVS, win32
codecs,  QT codecs , DivX, XViD, libavcodec CVS, RealPlayer codecs, LIVE.com
streaming library, Vivo  codecs, and Xanim DLLS. Then it compiles
all the source-based codecs and moves the files as i saw fit, then calls
configure-command, and makes and installs MPlayer. Once it 
gets a successful build, it downloads and installs a set of fonts for
OSD and subtitles.

The fourth file is limpio (spanish for clean). Deletes
files and subdirectories created by previous runs of 
getmplayer.


Just put the files in an empty directory and run ./getmplayer
(you will need to press the enter key as the script logs in
for CVS versions of some things and you get the usual Password: 
CVS prompt)

 (or less smart than you)
Lots of those out there. :o)

Damian


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Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes

2003-03-16 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:58, Damian Gatabria wrote:

 OK.. So now you could try source. This way you will be able to tell
 if the problem is specific to the RPM package.
 
Trying to avoid compiling things as I'm making an attempt at doing this
from a ground-up perspective - at least my system is stable and I've
got my mail and shit working - so the rest I'm doing as y'all would do
- which will help me to not only understand the entire distro better,
but open my eyes to alot of nuances that I've missed before by just
testing MDK on another machine and not living with it on a day to
day basis...dig...

  Why not post the script for those of us that are less lucky than you?
 
 OK. but...
 
 WARNING!
 
(Danger Will Robinson!)

 This script is (obviously) made specially for my own
 preferences and system configuration. It takes no parameters, no
 arguments, it's really dumb (i.e. poor error-checking) and may overwrite some
 of your libs with the new versions it downloads. So, before you try to run
 it, read it well and change it to your liking as to make sure you will not
 lose something you care about. 
 
 It contains 4 files. 
 
 One is called config-command. It is simply the `./configure` call, with all 
 the parameters i like to use. You will definitely want to read this one and
 alter it as you see fit. Especially if you want to enable DVD support which
 i explicitly disable, and also some drivers which i cannot use that you may
 like. --I made the ./configure in a separate file simply
 because this way i found it easier to tweak... instead of seeking to the
 right part in the main script.
 
 The second is getsdl. Simply checks out, compiles and installs the
 latest CVS snapshot for the SDL library, which i use a lot. (i made this
 because MDK packages for SDL are not recognized/found by MPlayer's
 ./configure. Broken package, maybe? i dunno.) If you do not care about sdl
 drivers in MPlayer, you do not need this. The main script does not call or
 need this file. I ran it separately once or twice.
 
 The third is the real script, getmplayer. It gets the MPlayer CVS, win32
 codecs,  QT codecs , DivX, XViD, libavcodec CVS, RealPlayer codecs, LIVE.com
 streaming library, Vivo  codecs, and Xanim DLLS. Then it compiles
 all the source-based codecs and moves the files as i saw fit, then calls
 configure-command, and makes and installs MPlayer. Once it 
 gets a successful build, it downloads and installs a set of fonts for
 OSD and subtitles.
 
 The fourth file is limpio (spanish for clean). Deletes
 files and subdirectories created by previous runs of 
 getmplayer.
 
 
 Just put the files in an empty directory and run ./getmplayer
 (you will need to press the enter key as the script logs in
 for CVS versions of some things and you get the usual Password: 
 CVS prompt)
 
  (or less smart than you)
 Lots of those out there. :o)
 
 Damian

I'll give it a shot mate...lessee what damage I can do!

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[newbie] RE: Difference between 'ISO images' and ' Linux 9.0 for i586'

2003-03-16 Per discussione m
I'm about to install Mandrake Linux on my laptop and like to know the difference between those two. I guess I need to download ISO images 3 CDs where first one is bootable but what is the'Mandrake Linux 9.0 for i586 and higher'download for. Do I need anything from there?
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[newbie] RAID configuration problems

2003-03-16 Per discussione Andrew Miller
Having big trouble trying to configure MDK 9.0 with a Promise IDE RAID. 
 If there are drives attached to the the RAID controller, in this case 
a couple of Western Digital 80 giggers, the BIOS allows me to set up 
the RAID.   However, the Mandrake 9.0 installer only sees two separate 
drives.  It also seem to insist that these are hda and hdc, making the 
other drives in the box hde and hdf.  I want to use the drives the 
installer sets to hde as the boot disk and location for the root 
directory, but since I can't seem to get the installer to see the array 
as a single volume, I tried to have the bootloader put on hde, with the 
plan to configure the RAID array later.  But then the machine won't 
boot.  Default location for the bootloader is on hda and it looks like 
the machine fails to find it on hde.

Is there a different strain of Mandrake Linux that will properly see 
the RAID array at installation?  Is there something I'm just missing 
here?  Been beating my head on this for a day and it seems like it 
shouldn't be so difficult.  The Promise controller is on the 
mtherboard, processor is an AMD XP2200+ with a gig of PC2700 RAM.  Any 
help with this is appreciated.  The machine has been running fine with 
just the two original drives (100 gig IBM 75GXP's) in it, but it just 
won't go with the array.

Andy Miller


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Re: [newbie] RAID configuration problems

2003-03-16 Per discussione Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 March 2003 12:31 am, Andrew Miller wrote:
 Having big trouble trying to configure MDK 9.0 with a Promise IDE RAID.
   If there are drives attached to the the RAID controller, in this case
 a couple of Western Digital 80 giggers, the BIOS allows me to set up
 the RAID.   However, the Mandrake 9.0 installer only sees two separate
 drives.  It also seem to insist that these are hda and hdc, making the
 other drives in the box hde and hdf.  I want to use the drives the
 installer sets to hde as the boot disk and location for the root
 directory, but since I can't seem to get the installer to see the array
 as a single volume, I tried to have the bootloader put on hde, with the
 plan to configure the RAID array later.  But then the machine won't
 boot.  Default location for the bootloader is on hda and it looks like
 the machine fails to find it on hde.

You can fix the drive lettering problem by setting ide=reverse as a kernel 
boot parameter.


 Is there a different strain of Mandrake Linux that will properly see
 the RAID array at installation?  Is there something I'm just missing
 here?  Been beating my head on this for a day and it seems like it
 shouldn't be so difficult.  The Promise controller is on the
 mtherboard, processor is an AMD XP2200+ with a gig of PC2700 RAM.  Any
 help with this is appreciated.  The machine has been running fine with
 just the two original drives (100 gig IBM 75GXP's) in it, but it just
 won't go with the array.

Well, it is really not a Mandrake problem but a Linux problem.

ATA RAID is not supported well in Linux, mostly because the hardware vendors 
do not create linux drivers and do not make sufficient info available to the 
kernel guys to allow them to create drivers.  So, you are pretty much SOL.

ATA RAID is software RAID, meaning that a driver is required to make it work.  
Hardware RAID solutions like SCSI RAID do not need a driver, the hardware 
takes care of presenting the device to the OS as a standard SCSI device.

9.1 may be better, but I wouldn't count on it.  Try setting them up as single 
drives and using Linux software RAID.
-- 
Greg

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