[newbie-it] Pan e librerie
salve, sto cercando di installare pan 0.13.4 su mandrake 9.0 mi vengono richieste le seguenti librerie: libXft.so.2 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libXrandr.so.2 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libaspell.so.15 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libpspell.so.15 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk sapete dove posso trovarle?
Re: [newbie-it] Pan e librerie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 18:57, sabato 15 marzo 2003, Luigi Beltramini ha scritto: salve, sto cercando di installare pan 0.13.4 su mandrake 9.0 mi vengono richieste le seguenti librerie: libXft.so.2 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libXrandr.so.2 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libaspell.so.15 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk libpspell.so.15 is needed by libgtkspell0-2.0.3-3mdk sapete dove posso trovarle? Hai provato ad usare rpmdrake? Magari le trovi nei Cd; oppure tramite http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ - -- Le ballerine sono coraggiosissime! Quante donne conoscete in grado di gettarsi tra le braccia di un omossessuale sperando che lui le afferri? Rita Rüdner -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dGUQTvJtVxCNwP4RAgCfAJ9KsljUHDOwWrU6RCoO6LCbKgZDAwCgzPyj CwJ7/T0Fy5o8hlgqlCSQ9W8= =QGCB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] Connettersi ad internet
Salve a tutti Sono un nuovissimo utente del pinguino Ho appena installato Mandrake 7.1, ma non riesco a collegarmi ad internet. Da KDE faccio partire KPPP, ho cambiato la porta da /dev/modem a /dev/ttyS0 ho impostato la stringa di chiamata con ATX3DT ho provato a modificare le altre impostazioni provando varie combinazioni, ma niente. Esce la scritta inizializzazione del modem e resta fermo li in eterno. Qualcuno sa dirmi d+. Ve ne sarei grato. Ciao
[newbie-it] kernel panic
Parto con l'installazione di Mandrake 9.1, faccio le mie varie configurazioni... HD, tastiera, mouse, bla bla... ad un certo punto si impalla per colpa del cdrom (è un pò vecchiotto) allora resetto, spengo, lo stacco e ne monto un altro che mi sono appena procurato. Riprovo a far partire l'installazione ma mi da questo errore kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 why?!?!?! Ma se prima era andato tutto liscio fino a quando il cdrom si e' messo a fare i capricci perche' ora Ho provato a riprestinare l'hd come prima, anche se gia' immaginavo che non sarebbe servito a nulla, ovvero con la sua partizione FAT32 ma nada... sempre kernel panic. gg !!! grazie ciao Davide
[newbie-it] kernle panic (errore completo)
L'errore completo è RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 invalid compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 2728k freed kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03
[newbie-it] Xine
Pensavo che Xine non funzionasse e poi lanciandolo da terminale ho scoperto che abortiva per problemi audio, disattivato OSS Xine funziona ma non sento nulla C'è modo di fargli usare il sistema audio configurato che penso essere alsa!?! PS legge tutto ma mi sembra che lavori al ralenti e la mia macchina non è sicuramente sotto dimensionata (2 AMD 1800, 512 di ram Geforce 4 con 32 mega!!!), cosa è che non fila!!!
[newbie-it] scribus e file qxd
Collaboro con una rivista di settore (non informatica!) e gli articoli la tipografia me li inzia in qxd (Xpress) o pdf. Se io li modifico devo inviare le modifiche per email tipo ( pagina 2 terza riga il numero 2 dopo CO deve essere spostato in pedice e diminuito di gerandezza) non vi dico i casini! Ho provato a convertire i file pdf e correggerli e riconvertirli ma loro non possono ricaricarli in Xpress (il filtro pdf è solo in uscità!) Se io potessi elaborare il file Xpress ad esempio con scribus e riconvertitglielo sarei MOLTO felice. Qualcuno conosce filtri di conversione o prg che efettuino questo servizio!
Re: [newbie-it] Connettersi ad internet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 15:33, sabato 15 marzo 2003, Giaipur ha scritto: Salve a tutti Sono un nuovissimo utente del pinguino Ho appena installato Mandrake 7.1, mm 1999 o giù di li... era meglio la 7.2, mooolto meglio se hai una macchina vecchietta te la consiglio, soprattutto perchè è stata la prima a montare reiserfs (su un 2.2.17 patchato...) o ti confondi con la 9.1 ? ;p ma non riesco a collegarmi ad internet. Da KDE faccio partire KPPP, ho cambiato la porta da /dev/modem a /dev/ttyS0 ho impostato la stringa di chiamata con ATX3DT ho provato a modificare le altre impostazioni provando varie combinazioni, ma niente. Esce la scritta inizializzazione del modem e resta fermo li in eterno. Qualcuno sa dirmi d+. se interroghi il modem con kppp / minicom cosa ti dice? se non si inizializza, non è colpa di ATDT ma dei comandi che lanci subito prima (tipo ATZ o ATFH0 , ecc) bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+dMQWF/9fksDJ4y0RAg40AJwJVfuYVZZhKuVP35agvgFEeEutYACeIWOe iKKR+Eakfa1rj52GZtBDURA= =WaqB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] help: invio email....
ciao a tutti, uso la mdk 9.0, programma per la posta Kmail...accedo a internet tramite la connessione a un server di rete locale ...il mio problema è che ho configurato il gestore di posta per ricevere le email da più indirizzi e fin qui nessun problema in quanto ricevo bene su tutti gli indirizzi...Tiscali,Virgilio e IOL...il problema è per inviare email , le invia solo se uso Virgilio come uscita . Eppure le configurazioni di Tiscali e IOL sono giusteriguardo ai parametri per la posta in uscita...quindi quale può essere il problema? infatti per inviare mail a questa mainlist devo aprire Netscape e loggarmi con IOL Ringrazio tutti anticipatamenete
RE: [newbie-it] help: invio email....
[CUT] indirizzi...Tiscali,Virgilio e IOL...il problema è per inviare email , le invia solo se uso Virgilio come uscita . Eppure le configurazioni di Tiscali e IOL sono giusteriguardo ai parametri per la posta in uscita...quindi quale può essere il problema? infatti per inviare mail a questa mainlist devo aprire Netscape e loggarmi con IOL Ringrazio tutti anticipatamenete Prova a immettere l'indirizzo SMTP di Virgilio negli altri account, dovrebbe funzionare. E' una tattica comune nella gestione di piu' indirizzi, in quanto molto spesso i provider (specialmente quelli gratuiti) lasciano il permesso di accedere ai server POP3 (che sono quelli appositi per ricever la posta) dei provider concorrenti, ma vietano l'accesso ai server SMTP (che sono quelli appositi per gestire l'invio delle e-mail) per (almeno dicono) questioni di sicurezza e anti spam. Quindi per risolvere il problema, quando si configurano piu' indirizzi, si tengono validi i server POP3 di ogni provider, ma si usa sempre lo stesso server SMTP che e' quello del provider con cui ci si connette ad internet. Di Fresco Marco ICQ #51985192 |--| | Spock (Court Martial - TOS): If I let go a hammer on a planet having a | | positive gravity, I need not see it fall to know that it has, in fact, | | fallen. | |--|
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
Op Sunday 16 March 2003 04:02, schreef Ronald J. Hall: Okay, I'm still having some hardware problems. I installed and ran memtest overnight, about 24 passes with no errors. I grabbed and installed cpuburn 1.4 last night, then ran burnMMX. It won't run longer than 2 minutes before I get a full lockup that requires a hardware reset or powerdown and back up. That from a shell with X running and without. This is an AMD XP2100, 512megs DDR (PNY) Ram, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200, etc, etc, with nothing overclocked. The CPU has a 5 1/4, 3000 rpm fan/heatsink attached to it, and BIOS reports 50 degrees celsius for it, and 27 degrees Celsius for the system. Intense games cause crashes, some with direct references to memory. Example, Warcraft 3 gives this: --- This application has encountered a critical error: FATAL ERROR! Program: C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\war3.exe Exception:0xC005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:6F58A844 The instruction at '0x6F58A844' referenced memory at '0x7FF8FE63'. The memory could not be 'read'. --- The literature with cpuburn suggests that my CPU is not getting cooled enough but from what I've read, 50 degrees Celsius should be okay, right? So what does everyone else think? Sure could use some insight. (Tom Brinkman, you around anywhere? grin) PS Note that all the hardware is basically new, less than 3 months old. Roland , I' m not so sure that the indication of the cpu temp. is always so accurate . A good thing to try is when the machine locks up , reboot emmidiatly (so everything is still hot) , and run the test again . When it is the temperature which gives problems , it now should lock up even faster . a second thing is trying to switch memory as suggested by Ian . Good luck . Bart. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
Hi. On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:03:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 March 2003 10:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to specREALLY APPRECIATE! Stephen, is this what you want (attached file) ? Hehe. As Linus said, backup are for wimps. Real men let just the public mirror important stuff. :-) Bye, Benjamin: PS: The original quote is: Only wimps use tape backup: *real* men just upload their important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) -- Linus Torvalds (about his failing hard drive) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] How to disable Win key?
Hello... I have one of my computers running in CLI mode at all times as my monitor is very old. Every time I use the computer and I accidentally hit the Win key, it advances to the next TTY port higher than the previous one. HOW can I disable that function so that it won't do anything if I accidentally hit the Win key? Yoel Krigsman P.S. Win key is the key between alt and Ctrl on the left side of the keyboard. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
Hi. On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:01:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be fine at 50C. If your memory is in 2 sticks, try taking one out. If it still crashes, switch them! If it's ok you've found your problem. I doubt it is a memory problem. I am no hardware expert but had my share of misc. hardware problems and never had or heard of faulty memory causing immediate lock-ups. I agree with the docs which suggest either bad cooling (fan, bad heat dissipation, ...) or bad power supply (power supply unit, connector, motherboard, ...) are probably causes. Ronald, what kind of power supply do you have? 230W, 300W? (or whatever is standard where you come from ;) Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card - they can get real hot too. Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up. What speed and timings are you running the memory at? Try slowing it down to CAS 2.5 or set it to a safer setting in BIOS Can this really be the cause of lock-ups? Never had that happen to me. From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I grabbed and installed cpuburn 1.4 last night, then ran burnMMX. It won't run longer than 2 minutes before I get a full lockup that requires a hardware reset or powerdown and back up. That from a shell with X running and without. This is an AMD XP2100, 512megs DDR (PNY) Ram, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200, etc, etc, with nothing overclocked. The CPU has a 5 1/4, 3000 rpm fan/heatsink attached to it, and BIOS reports 50 degrees celsius for it, and 27 degrees Celsius for the system. [...] The literature with cpuburn suggests that my CPU is not getting cooled enough but from what I've read, 50 degrees Celsius should be okay, right? Well, I would put more credibility in the CPU lock-up than into what the BIOS is reporting. ;-) PS Note that all the hardware is basically new, less than 3 months old. HTH, Benjamin. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Saturday March 15 2003 09:02 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Okay, I'm still having some hardware problems. I installed and ran memtest overnight, about 24 passes with no errors. I grabbed and installed cpuburn 1.4 last night, then ran burnMMX. It won't run longer than 2 minutes before I get a full lockup that requires a hardware reset or powerdown and back up. Google: Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring. There's better ways to tryin shutdown before usin the panic button ;) That from a shell with X running and without. Weak motherboard, power supply, ram, among other things including bios (mis)configuration could be involved. Your mobo looks good but that's a very poor memory vendor. Try setting the ram to cas3 with bank interleaving disabled. Use lm_sensors and check frequently when the system is under varying to heavy load to see if the voltages are at or above spec and _stay steady_. See who made the PSU and check to see if it, and the cpu heatsink (your mobo is) are AMD appr'vd http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html This is an AMD XP2100, 512megs DDR (PNY) Ram, Soyo Dragon Plus MB, Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200, etc, etc, with nothing overclocked. If you're using the proprietary nvidia driver, you should add 'mem=nopentium' to lilo.conf's append= line. Run 'lilo' and reboot. Another very good system test is prime95. ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz D/l and extract that file to a dir by itself. Then in that dir run ./mprime -mand from the menu choose 17), the torture test. You should be able to complete that without stopping on hardware errors. Make sure you can before tryin cpuburn again. This mprime test takes many hours, so plan on overnite. The CPU has a 5 1/4, 3000 rpm fan/heatsink attached to it, and BIOS reports 50 degrees celsius for it, and 27 degrees Celsius for the system. Heatsink should have a 5000 rpm fan on it. The heatsink should be sitting on the cpu die with a thin layer of thermal grease. A thermal pad won't do, specially for Athlons. Heat could well be causing your problems. The cpu temp you see in bios is almost useless. Your system isn't fully booted into an OS yet, and is under low load. To see if better heatsink or case cooling is needed, take the case cover off and point a table fan into the case. If your system then runs without, or with little problem, you need a better hs-fan and/or case cooling. Do so soon, 'cause letting the system overheat (too many times) will make the system weaker from then on. Could even be permanently damaged (fubar'd). Intense games cause crashes, some with direct references to memory. Example, Warcraft 3 gives this: Games don't make good system tests or benchmarks, despite many people thinking they do. 'Sides, many crash all by themselves. The literature with cpuburn suggests that my CPU is not getting cooled enough but from what I've read, 50 degrees Celsius should be okay, right? Yes, if it's monitored when the system is fully booted up and working under load. No, when it's from bios. Keep in mind that the temps you're seeing are from an external probe, and are only indicative of approximate cpu temp. The cpu internal core temp is at least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher. XP's made since last July do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do, at least not properly. PS Note that all the hardware is basically new, less than 3 months old. Still, check for dust bunnies ... and make sure that cpu heatsink isn't on a pad, and is on some grease. When you get cooling right, you should be able to run cpuburn's burnK7 (or burnK6 will do) for at least 15 to 20 minutes. Run for an hour, it means your system is bulletproof. You might need to give that PNY ram to somebody you don't like, and get some Crucial, Corsair, or Samsung cas2 ram ; -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:14 am, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hi. On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:01:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be fine at 50C. If your memory is in 2 sticks, try taking one out. If it still crashes, switch them! If it's ok you've found your problem. I doubt it is a memory problem. I am no hardware expert but had my share of misc. hardware problems and never had or heard of faulty memory causing immediate lock-ups. I agree with the docs which suggest either bad cooling (fan, bad heat dissipation, ...) or bad power supply (power supply unit, connector, motherboard, ...) are probably causes. It sounds to me like poor cooling, but bad memory can easily be the problem too. What speed and timings are you running the memory at? Try slowing it down to CAS 2.5 or set it to a safer setting in BIOS Can this really be the cause of lock-ups? Never had that happen to me. Yes. Memory that might be fine at CAS 2.5 that doen't like CAS 2 could easily cause the symptoms described. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:46 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher. XP's made since last July do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do, at least not properly. Many of the newer motherboards can read the diode, just lm_sensors does not always have a driver for the sensor chip. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
OK, ran a urpmi --auto-select last night and updated lots of things. I needed to print something out of kword and although everything looks correct, nothing comes out of the printer. Cups is updated, I ran printerdrake, it's sending the test pages to the printer and then it just disappears into thin air. The parport modules are loaded and everything else seems fine - I don't think it's a kernel issue - although I have kernel-source for 2.4.21, the kernel rpm is still at 2.4.19. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
On Sunday 16 March 2003 10:32 am, David E. Fox wrote: OK, ran a urpmi --auto-select last night and updated lots of things. I needed to print something out of kword and although everything looks correct, nothing comes out of the printer. Cups is updated, I ran printerdrake, it's sending the test pages to the printer and then it just disappears into thin air. The parport modules are loaded and everything else seems fine - I don't think it's a kernel issue - although I have kernel-source for 2.4.21, the kernel rpm is still at 2.4.19. You might check the permissions. I had mozilla quit working after a update and the /usr/bin/mozilla permissions had gone back to root. So I changed them to user and it works again. Cups may have the same problem although which package is called on print I am not sure. Maybe userdrake and add printer? HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help' to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the information. Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either. Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed? -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 4:32 pm, David E. Fox wrote: OK, ran a urpmi --auto-select last night and updated lots of things. I needed to print something out of kword and although everything looks correct, nothing comes out of the printer. Cups is updated, I ran printerdrake, it's sending the test pages to the printer and then it just disappears into thin air. The parport modules are loaded and everything else seems fine - I don't think it's a kernel issue - although I have kernel-source for 2.4.21, the kernel rpm is still at 2.4.19. What sort of printer do you have? The last update of printer-utils broke operation with HP Deskjet 720 series. The fix is to edit /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and set the version parameter for your printer type. Mandrake 9.1 has been fixed so it should be OK. HTh derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] disable system clock sync?
OK I really did try searching the archives for this but after going through 30+ pages of results I gave up. on boot up/shutdown how do you disable the syncing of the system clock? actually just need to know how to disable it durring shutdown since i hacked around a bit and got the startup syncing to work (it was hanging on a line of code that i commented out and now works fine) but if i need to reboot/shutodown it hangs on syncing the system clock (i let it sit once to see if it was just slow... a half hour later i used the sys req key combos to reboot). I haven't had a successful shutdown since installing 9.0 (it worked in 8.2) and have been trying to find the answer. It wasn't a really big deal since I don't shutdown or reboot often (i love linux!) but we're in the stormy season here and I shutdown durring electrical storms which will be happening frequently soon. Thanks in advance for the always excellent help you all give! Jerry. -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 5:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote: For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help' to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the information. Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either. Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed? -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] if a box is too big and you cant see all of it you can drag it around by holding down ALT then left-clicking on the box...you can now drag it about :D I have this problem all the time with my poor old 800x600 laptop. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dLYJt3yCLmAxGjYRApkKAJ4mKpmCtcbgqBPe0qoWMx8N+JAtjQCdHru5 7fEk+xQCbsJBgpM5pPJ3lfo= =GWlv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Off list for a while
Civileme, Your absence will make a certain, negative impact on Mandrake's free-support community and I cannot help but feel that it will do little or nothing to increase revenue at MandrakeExpert. I see this as a net loss for Mandrake, not a net gain. But if a break from the lists will allow you to increase the quality of your life and career, then by all means, do it. That's the only reason you need. I very much look forward to your return. Miark On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:21:31 -0900 civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at the Mandrakesoft site recently and I saw a recommendation for folks to use MandrakeExpert rather than these mailing lists. I hate the web interface and It required a great effort with databases to keep up with the incidents when I was answering questions on the MandrakeExpert site. I guess the advantage of local copies in the email is pretty great. Anyway, it occurs to me that what help I give here is essentially competing with something that could generate revenue for Mandrakesoft and I know they need it. After 8 months, I am still seeking employment following the Mandrakesoft layoffs, so I can say the market for jobs in hi-tech is atrocious. Even in another area where I am a professional, technical writing, there is nothing... well, nothing without a hundred applicants willing to work cheap. If any of you know of jobs in your area email me off-list. I am ready to relocate, even to NZ. So goodbye.. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
WOW COOL! I wasn't having such an issue with the linuxconf help window but when i'd start xchat it'd place the window half way off the top of the screen (so i couldn't grab the titlebar) making it (i thought) unusable unless i switched to iceWM which will let me place the window with my mouse when a program starts. (dunno if there was a way to make fluxbox do that... or KDE) Another one of those really spiffy tips that i wouldn't have known if i hadn't been here! Jerry. On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:36:09 + Simon Prosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 5:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote: For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help' to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the information. Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either. Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed? -- cervixcouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] if a box is too big and you cant see all of it you can drag it around by holding down ALT then left-clicking on the box...you can now drag it about :D I have this problem all the time with my poor old 800x600 laptop. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+dLYJt3yCLmAxGjYRApkKAJ4mKpmCtcbgqBPe0qoWMx8N+JAtjQCdHru5 7fEk+xQCbsJBgpM5pPJ3lfo= =GWlv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (o_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Turn off auto connect to ISP on boot??
I installed LM8.1 then upgraded to LM8.2 and have been automatically connected to my ISP on boot. Now I am using that computer as a backup, and don't want it normally connected. Can someone tell me how to turn off the automatic KPPP connection? Much thanks, Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote: For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help' to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the information. Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either. Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed? Dont' know why, but I couldn't get them to resize either. You can hold down the ALT key and then drag with the mouse to see what you need to see. David -- ( ) ( ) ( 0 0 ) ---( )--- o Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Registered Linux user #300497 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 14:14, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hi. snip Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card - they can get real hot too. Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up. snip Actually no need to be too nervous - I've been running my PC without its back for the last 18 months [but no fan], after it started repeatedly shutting down or re-booting while running Win$ or during boot-up, all because of dicey CPU cooling. Now, no problems. Good luck! -- Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Turn off auto connect to ISP on boot??
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 23:44, Bob Read wrote: I installed LM8.1 then upgraded to LM8.2 and have been automatically connected to my ISP on boot. Now I am using that computer as a backup, and don't want it normally connected. Can someone tell me how to turn off the automatic KPPP connection? Much thanks, Bob You should be able to run linuxconf and turn it off under the networking option - or go back through KPPP and turn it off. It would be better to use KPPP and just delete the connection setup so that it's empty, but you still might want to check through in linuxconf and make sure that it's really really off...HTH -- Mon Mar 17 06:45:01 EST 2003 06:45:01 up 58 min, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.12, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The idea of man leaving this earth and flying to another celestial body and landing there and stepping out and walking over that body has a fascination and a driving force that can get the country to a level of energy, ambition, and will that I do not see in any other undertaking. I think if we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that we needed that impetus extremely strongly. I sincerely believe that the space program, with its manned landing on the moon, if wisely executed, will become the spearhead for a broad front of courageous and energetic activities in all the fields of endeavour of the human mind - activities which could not be carried out except in a mental climate of ambition and confidence which such a spearhead can give. - Dr. Martin Schwarzschild, 1962, in The History of Manned Space Flight Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
What sort of printer do you have? The last update of printer-utils broke operation with HP Deskjet 720 series. Mine's a Canon BJC 250. The fix is to edit /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and set the version parameter for your printer type. No go on that - is that only for the dexkjet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to disable Win key?
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 00:53, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: Hello... I have one of my computers running in CLI mode at all times as my monitor is very old. Every time I use the computer and I accidentally hit the Win key, it advances to the next TTY port higher than the previous one. HOW can I disable that function so that it won't do anything if I accidentally hit the Win key? Yoel Krigsman P.S. Win key is the key between alt and Ctrl on the left side of the keyboard. Have you tried changing the keyboard layouts? And if that doesn't work, what about utilising a flat-head screwdriver to physically remove the Win key from the keyboard - then you won't hit it accidentally anymore, ay? (JOKING); I would assume, ASSUME that by changing the keyboard layout to 101-standard that it would disable that special key...but then again, I could be wrong. I hate keyboards like that anyways...I prefer the nice, old fashioned ones... -- Mon Mar 17 06:55:00 EST 2003 06:55:00 up 1:08, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.06 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** What do people like to drink here, then? The landlord looked sideways at his customers, a clever trick given that they were directly in front of him. -- Mort goes out for a drink (Terry Pratchett, Mort) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 00:47, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hi. On Sun 2003-03-16 at 00:03:07 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 March 2003 10:53 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Hey y'all - anyone remember that I posed a PROCMAILRC a while ago - well, as y'all know, all my mail went the way of the wind, and if anyone can blast me a copy of it back - cuz I'm hustling to get my system back to specREALLY APPRECIATE! Stephen, is this what you want (attached file) ? Hehe. As Linus said, backup are for wimps. Real men let just the public mirror important stuff. :-) Bye, Benjamin: PS: The original quote is: Only wimps use tape backup: *real* men just upload their important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) -- Linus Torvalds (about his failing hard drive) How funny - but how true. I constantly back up my customers machines to my network - so that I can scan'em for bugs, burn cd's of their stuff, yadda yadda yadda - but when it comes to MY stuff, well, I never do anything. As a matter of fact, last week when I made my complete move to MDK on my primary box, I SWORE that I was going to setup a backup to another partition or to the network so that if I do crash'n'burn again, I'll have a backup - but still ain't got around to doing it. At least it's great to know that I did get my procmailrc back (have heaps of editing to do to it) - thanks to Kaj - maybe I oughta start posting my entire ~/home/mynamegoeshere directory to the list? -- Mon Mar 17 07:00:00 EST 2003 07:00:00 up 1:13, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.06 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** And he climbed with the lad up the Eiffelberg Tower. This, cried the Mayor, is your town's darkest hour! The time for all Whos who have blood that is red to come to the aid of their country! he said. We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts! So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts! Thus he spoke as he climbed. When they got to the top, the lad cleared his throat and he shouted out, YOPP! And that Yopp... That one last small, extra Yopp put it over! Finally, at last! From the speck on that clover their voices were heard! They rang out clear and clean. And they elephant smiled. Do you see what I mean? They've proved they ARE persons, no matter how small. And their whole world was saved by the smallest of All! How true! Yes, how true, said the big kangaroo. And, from now on, you know what I'm planning to do? From now on, I'm going to protect them with you! And the young kangaroo in her pouch said, ME TOO! From the sun in the summer. From rain when it's fall-ish, I'm going to protect them. No matter how small-ish! -- Dr. Seuss Horton Hears a Who Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
You might check the permissions. I had mozilla quit working after a It doesn't seem to be a permissions issue as I've attempted to print the test pages manually as root using lpr. Same issue - the print job mysteriously disappears - gs is not started, and the lpq just tells me printer is idle. If I turn the printer off, lpc says the printer is ready. That's odd. I'm going to try removing the printer and then adding it back and see if that fixes things. Well, what do you know, that works :). Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
On Sunday 16 Mar 2003 7:57 pm, David E. Fox wrote: What sort of printer do you have? The last update of printer-utils broke operation with HP Deskjet 720 series. Mine's a Canon BJC 250. The fix is to edit /etc/pnm2ppa.conf and set the version parameter for your printer type. No go on that - is that only for the dexkjet? Yes -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
You mean some folks actually have cases on their computers? Seriously though, make sure that any vents, holes etc especially those in the back of the power supply are not blocked by dust, as this is often the only way to exhaust hot air from the case. If you do have a case fan, make sure it's working. Ian - Original Message - From: Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beginners' Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 14:14, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: Hi. snip Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card - they can get real hot too. Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up. snip Actually no need to be too nervous - I've been running my PC without its back for the last 18 months [but no fan], after it started repeatedly shutting down or re-booting while running Win$ or during boot-up, all because of dicey CPU cooling. Now, no problems. Good luck! -- Douglas B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing trouble after upgrading to Cooker
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:07 pm, David E. Fox wrote: You might check the permissions. I had mozilla quit working after a It doesn't seem to be a permissions issue as I've attempted to print the test pages manually as root using lpr. Same issue - the print job mysteriously disappears - gs is not started, and the lpq just tells me printer is idle. If I turn the printer off, lpc says the printer is ready. That's odd. I'm going to try removing the printer and then adding it back and see if that fixes things. Well, what do you know, that works :). Dennis M. linux user #180842 This rings a bell for me : recently I got a new HP 3820 as a very cheap replacement for my HP 930c (which my kids stole) and had a frustrating experience to get the damned thing working under 9.0. Finally, before giving up and returning the bastard, I used webmin. Voila - succes ! Try webmin. Kaj Haulrich. -- Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Powered by Linux - Mandrake 9.0 - kernel 2.4.19.24 Brought to you from my 100 % Micro$oft-free computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=procmailrc PATH=/bin:/usr/bin Hmm. Once I tried procmail and lost a lot of mails as well :(. If you don't set the .procmailrc correctly it can be problematic. # It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your # spam in one shot: :0 * !^Message-Id { LOG = No ID :0 /dev/null } Hmm. I didn't think you could send email without a Message-ID. Anyway, I finally got around to installing SpamAssasin, which si also purported to be very good at catching spam. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail Recipes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 08:46, David E. Fox wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=procmailrc PATH=/bin:/usr/bin Hmm. Once I tried procmail and lost a lot of mails as well :(. If you don't set the .procmailrc correctly it can be problematic. Maybe all your email is spam, ay? # It is reliably reported that this single test may kill half your # spam in one shot: :0 * !^Message-Id { LOG = No ID :0 /dev/null } Hmm. I didn't think you could send email without a Message-ID. There are ways of sending messages without a message-ID - tools that spammers use have that ability mate. Anyway, I finally got around to installing SpamAssasin, which si also purported to be very good at catching spam. You can still use a really good /etc/procmailrc along with SpamAssassin - you can never have enough protection. It's like wearing two rubbers! -- Mon Mar 17 08:50:00 EST 2003 08:50:00 up 3:03, 4 users, load average: 0.56, 0.42, 0.29 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** To understand a program you must become both the machine and the program. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MPlayer woes
Ok...being that I ain't go my 50,000 emails from the past few months, I have had a brain fart and can't, for the life of me, figger out how to get mp3lame to work with MPlayer - and I remember this being on the list before - so, in essence, am I to recompile/configure MPlayer, or is there something I ain't tried yet? I've sucked heaps of stuff offa the PLF Cooker site - and have tried to do any type of update with urpmi - but unless I'm missing a brain cell or two, I can't update cuz I'm running 9.1rc2... Enlightenment from anyone? C'mon - help a RedHatter become more of a Mandrakian? -- Mon Mar 17 09:25:00 EST 2003 09:25:00 up 3:38, 4 users, load average: 0.05, 0.06, 0.22 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. -- John Kenneth Galbraith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie]
Title: Bericht Mv.Gr. Rene Boeije [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes
On Sunday 16 de March 2003 19:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Ok...being that I ain't go my 50,000 emails from the past few months, I have had a brain fart and can't, for the life of me, figger out how to get mp3lame to work with MPlayer - and I remember this being on the list before - so, in essence, am I to recompile/configure MPlayer, or is there something I ain't tried yet? I've sucked heaps of stuff offa the PLF Cooker site - and have tried to do any type of update with urpmi - but unless I'm missing a brain cell or two, I can't update cuz I'm running 9.1rc2... Enlightenment from anyone? C'mon - help a RedHatter become more of a Mandrakian? urpmi -a mp3lame0 will provide everything you need for a normal recompile of MPlayer to detect and use mp3lame. what does `rpm -qa | grep mp3` tell you? HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 09:53, Damian Gatabria wrote: urpmi -a mp3lame0 Output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame0 no package named mp3lame0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame no package named mp3lame [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame* no package named mp3lame* Wuzza!?!?! (sniff) will provide everything you need for a normal recompile of MPlayer to detect and use mp3lame. ...but it didn't...(waah!) what does `rpm -qa | grep mp3` tell you? Output: # rpm -qa | grep mp3 libmp3lame0-3.93.1-1plf mp32ogg-0.11-2mdk mp3info-0.8.4-6mdk libgmp3-4.1.2-1mdk libgmp3-devel-4.1.2-1mdk libmp3lame0-devel-3.93.1-1plf -- Mon Mar 17 10:10:01 EST 2003 10:10:01 up 4:23, 3 users, load average: 0.24, 0.29, 0.28 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** What segment's this, that, laid to rest On FHA0, is sleeping? What system file, lay here a while This, this is acct.run, While hackers around it were weeping? Accounting file for everyone. Dump, dump it and type it out, The file, the highseg of login. Why lies it here, on public disk And why is it now unprotected? A bug in incant, made it thus. Mount, mount all your DECtapes now And copy the file somehow, somehow. The problem has not been corrected. Dump, dump it and type it out, The file, the highseg of login. -- to Greensleeves Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
Right after I sent the email, I figured out that I could use the ALT key to click and drag the window. Figures. ;) Thanks for help regardless, everyone. The odd thing is that this window behaviour isn't consistent for all .help files. Some open up with a scroll bar and some don't. Does anyone know what program is responsible for producing these windows? Nothing in Control Center seems to affect it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Sunday 16 March 2003 23:40, Rene Boeije wrote: Mv.Gr. Rene Boeije [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I miss something? Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes
On Sunday 16 de March 2003 20:12, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 09:53, Damian Gatabria wrote: urpmi -a mp3lame0 Output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame0 no package named mp3lame0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame no package named mp3lame [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# urpmi -a mp3lame* no package named mp3lame* Wuzza!?!?! (sniff) hm.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa | grep mp3 libmp3lame0-3.93-0.20021107.1plf libgmp3-4.1-3mdk libmp3lame0-devel-3.93-0.20021107.1plf libgmp3-devel-4.1-3mdk ...almost the same as you... only my packages seem older. How exactly are you trying to use MPlayer? have you tried CVS or are you just using RPMS? (FWIW i always use the source. In fact i made a small script that updates MPlayer and most of it's codecs and run it every week or so...) Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 23:40, Rene Boeije wrote: Mv.Gr. Rene Boeije [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I miss something? Good luck, HarM Uh, I think we ALL missed something here - unless Rene is using the new i18n based font called INVISIBLE - which, of course, if Rene wrote a message in that, we'd not see it because we don't have that font installed...(or some other lame excuse) -- Mon Mar 17 10:30:00 EST 2003 10:30:00 up 4:43, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Death didn't answer. He was looking at Spold in the same way as a dog looks at a bone, only in this case things were more or less the other way around. -- Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Monday 17 March 2003 00:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:28, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 23:40, Rene Boeije wrote: Mv.Gr. Rene Boeije [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I miss something? Good luck, HarM Uh, I think we ALL missed something here - unless Rene is using the new i18n based font called INVISIBLE - which, of course, if Rene wrote a message in that, we'd not see it because we don't have that font installed...(or some other lame excuse) Nah, I just took a look at the source that's arial using Outlook in html. I think this guy needs help fast (or reanimation) it's like watching the bubbles in the water where somebody just called HELP a few moments before. Maybe we could use one of your sigs for an epitaph if we're too late, eh? Rene, ...Rene! You OK? Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:34, Damian Gatabria wrote: ...almost the same as you... only my packages seem older. How exactly are you trying to use MPlayer? have you tried CVS or are you just using RPMS? I did it the Mandrake way this time'round - the RPM way! (FWIW i always use the source. In fact i made a small script that updates MPlayer and most of it's codecs and run it every week or so...) Why not post the script for those of us that are less lucky than you? (or less smart than you) (g) -- Mon Mar 17 12:15:00 EST 2003 12:15:00 up 6:28, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.14, 0.15 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Life is the childhood of our immortality. -- Goethe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:01 am, Ian Trickett wrote: Should be fine at 50C. If your memory is in 2 sticks, try taking one out. If it still crashes, switch them! If it's ok you've found your problem. Make sure you,ve got good air circulation, esp. round your vid card - they can get real hot too. What speed and timings are you running the memory at? Try slowing it down to CAS 2.5 or set it to a safer setting in BIOS Good luck! Ian I'll try that tomorrow. The video card has its own fan, I've left the slot next to it open (since the card is AGP you're not supposed to use the PCI slot next to it anyways, right?). I've got the fan from the P/S, as well as a case fan up front. 4 fans total, counting the CPU fan. Memory settings are left at the default (auto?) for the Soyo Dragon Plus MB. Thanks for the reply! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sunday 16 March 2003 04:24 am, Bart Salien wrote: Roland , Er, its Ronald (all my friends call me Ron) but Roland is okay - love the French hero of the same name (Durandana and Olifant!) (sp?) :-) I' m not so sure that the indication of the cpu temp. is always so accurate . A good thing to try is when the machine locks up , reboot emmidiatly (so everything is still hot) , and run the test again . When it is the temperature which gives problems , it now should lock up even faster . Well, going by that then I don't think its temperature. Why? Because I can and have run this system for 24 hours straight - no problems. I can run the games that give me problems after the system has been on for hours or minutes - and the games will lock up at different times - I've been able to play UT2003, for example, for 2-3 hours, then other times, can't play it for 2-3 minutes. cpuburn, on the other hand - *always* locks up within 2 minutes. a second thing is trying to switch memory as suggested by Ian . Gonna do that tomorrow for sure. Good luck . Bart. Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:14 am, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: I doubt it is a memory problem. I am no hardware expert but had my share of misc. hardware problems and never had or heard of faulty memory causing immediate lock-ups. Okay, just to be clear, the immediate (2 minutes or less) lockup is with cpuburn only - normally the system sits and runs for hours and hours. Some games segfault out (and the time varies there). I agree with the docs which suggest either bad cooling (fan, bad heat dissipation, ...) or bad power supply (power supply unit, connector, motherboard, ...) are probably causes. Ronald, what kind of power supply do you have? 230W, 300W? (or whatever is standard where you come from ;) A less than 3 months old 350 watt power supply. Agreed. A good test (not for the faint-hearted :-) is to run with open case and use a hair-dryer or alike (on cool setting - or whatever that might be called) in direction of the CPU and see if it makes a difference in how long it needs until the CPU locks up. I think I will try running with the case off to see if it does make a difference. HTH, Benjamin. Thanks for the advice! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cpuburn and memtest
On Sunday 16 March 2003 09:46 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: Google: Raising skinny elephants is utterly boring. There's better ways to tryin shutdown before usin the panic button ;) Well, I tried to kill out of my Xserver using control alt backspace but that didn't work so I tried control alt Fx (fill in numbers 1 thru 10 for x) but it wouldn't let me leave. I also tried the venerable control alt delete but no go there either. Locked up tighter than a tap washer. grin So...was there something else I could have done before hitting the hardware switches? Thanks! Weak motherboard, power supply, ram, among other things including bios (mis)configuration could be involved. Your mobo looks good but that's a very poor memory vendor. Try setting the ram to cas3 with bank interleaving disabled. Use lm_sensors and check frequently when the system is under varying to heavy load to see if the voltages are at or above spec and _stay steady_. See who made the PSU and check to see if it, and the cpu heatsink (your mobo is) are AMD appr'vd http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,0 0.html I'll go there and check that. If you're using the proprietary nvidia driver, you should add 'mem=nopentium' to lilo.conf's append= line. Run 'lilo' and reboot. I'll try that as well... Another very good system test is prime95. ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/mprime2212.tar.gz D/l and extract that file to a dir by itself. Then in that dir run ./mprime -mand from the menu choose 17), the torture test. You should be able to complete that without stopping on hardware errors. Make sure you can before tryin cpuburn again. This mprime test takes many hours, so plan on overnite. Ditto Heatsink should have a 5000 rpm fan on it. The heatsink should be sitting on the cpu die with a thin layer of thermal grease. A thermal pad won't do, specially for Athlons. Looks like I'll need to upgrade that then. I did use thermal grease, and not a pad. I hear they deterioate after awhile (one of your messages! smile). Heat could well be causing your problems. The cpu temp you see in bios is almost useless. Your system isn't fully booted into an OS yet, and is under low load. To see if better heatsink or case cooling is needed, take the case cover off and point a table fan into the case. If your system then runs without, or with little problem, you need a better hs-fan and/or case cooling. Do so soon, 'cause letting the system overheat (too many times) will make the system weaker from then on. Could even be permanently damaged (fubar'd). Gonna try that as well. Games don't make good system tests or benchmarks, despite many people thinking they do. 'Sides, many crash all by themselves. I know, just trying to give some examples of whats going on. Yes, if it's monitored when the system is fully booted up and working under load. No, when it's from bios. Keep in mind that the temps you're seeing are from an external probe, and are only indicative of approximate cpu temp. The cpu internal core temp is at least 10C, if not as much as 20C higher. XP's made since last July do have an internal diode to report core temp. Unfortunately there's no desktop motherboards that implement it, or the very few that do, at least not properly. Okay, I got it. Still, check for dust bunnies ... and make sure that cpu heatsink isn't on a pad, and is on some grease. When you get cooling right, you should be able to run cpuburn's burnK7 (or burnK6 will do) for at least 15 to 20 minutes. Run for an hour, it means your system is bulletproof. You might need to give that PNY ram to somebody you don't like, and get some Crucial, Corsair, or Samsung cas2 ram ; I hear ya grin Thanks for the reply Tom! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] problem with Linuxconf 'Help' window height
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Williams wrote: On Sunday 16 March 2003 12:25 pm, cervixcouch wrote: For quite a number of the windows in Linuxconf, whenever I click 'Help' to get more information, the window that pops up is several times the height of the screen and there is no scrollbar present to scroll down the information. Maximizing the screen does no good and clicking the 'X' in the upper left hand corner and selecting 'size' does nothing either. Is there a setting somewhere where this window behaviour can be changed? Dont' know why, but I couldn't get them to resize either. You can hold down the ALT key and then drag with the mouse to see what you need to see. David Well, that's going to help a lot here. I'll finally be able to use Linuxconf. It does leave me to wonder why the boxes are so huge: a lot of them have a lot of really empty space. -- hendrik -- ( ) ( ) ( 0 0 ) ---( )--- o Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question Registered Linux user #300497 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes
On Sunday 16 de March 2003 22:18, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:34, Damian Gatabria wrote: ...almost the same as you... only my packages seem older. How exactly are you trying to use MPlayer? have you tried CVS or are you just using RPMS? I did it the Mandrake way this time'round - the RPM way! OK.. So now you could try source. This way you will be able to tell if the problem is specific to the RPM package. Why not post the script for those of us that are less lucky than you? OK. but... WARNING! This script is (obviously) made specially for my own preferences and system configuration. It takes no parameters, no arguments, it's really dumb (i.e. poor error-checking) and may overwrite some of your libs with the new versions it downloads. So, before you try to run it, read it well and change it to your liking as to make sure you will not lose something you care about. It contains 4 files. One is called config-command. It is simply the `./configure` call, with all the parameters i like to use. You will definitely want to read this one and alter it as you see fit. Especially if you want to enable DVD support which i explicitly disable, and also some drivers which i cannot use that you may like. --I made the ./configure in a separate file simply because this way i found it easier to tweak... instead of seeking to the right part in the main script. The second is getsdl. Simply checks out, compiles and installs the latest CVS snapshot for the SDL library, which i use a lot. (i made this because MDK packages for SDL are not recognized/found by MPlayer's ./configure. Broken package, maybe? i dunno.) If you do not care about sdl drivers in MPlayer, you do not need this. The main script does not call or need this file. I ran it separately once or twice. The third is the real script, getmplayer. It gets the MPlayer CVS, win32 codecs, QT codecs , DivX, XViD, libavcodec CVS, RealPlayer codecs, LIVE.com streaming library, Vivo codecs, and Xanim DLLS. Then it compiles all the source-based codecs and moves the files as i saw fit, then calls configure-command, and makes and installs MPlayer. Once it gets a successful build, it downloads and installs a set of fonts for OSD and subtitles. The fourth file is limpio (spanish for clean). Deletes files and subdirectories created by previous runs of getmplayer. Just put the files in an empty directory and run ./getmplayer (you will need to press the enter key as the script logs in for CVS versions of some things and you get the usual Password: CVS prompt) (or less smart than you) Lots of those out there. :o) Damian getmplayer.tar.bz2 Description: application/tbz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPlayer woes
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:58, Damian Gatabria wrote: OK.. So now you could try source. This way you will be able to tell if the problem is specific to the RPM package. Trying to avoid compiling things as I'm making an attempt at doing this from a ground-up perspective - at least my system is stable and I've got my mail and shit working - so the rest I'm doing as y'all would do - which will help me to not only understand the entire distro better, but open my eyes to alot of nuances that I've missed before by just testing MDK on another machine and not living with it on a day to day basis...dig... Why not post the script for those of us that are less lucky than you? OK. but... WARNING! (Danger Will Robinson!) This script is (obviously) made specially for my own preferences and system configuration. It takes no parameters, no arguments, it's really dumb (i.e. poor error-checking) and may overwrite some of your libs with the new versions it downloads. So, before you try to run it, read it well and change it to your liking as to make sure you will not lose something you care about. It contains 4 files. One is called config-command. It is simply the `./configure` call, with all the parameters i like to use. You will definitely want to read this one and alter it as you see fit. Especially if you want to enable DVD support which i explicitly disable, and also some drivers which i cannot use that you may like. --I made the ./configure in a separate file simply because this way i found it easier to tweak... instead of seeking to the right part in the main script. The second is getsdl. Simply checks out, compiles and installs the latest CVS snapshot for the SDL library, which i use a lot. (i made this because MDK packages for SDL are not recognized/found by MPlayer's ./configure. Broken package, maybe? i dunno.) If you do not care about sdl drivers in MPlayer, you do not need this. The main script does not call or need this file. I ran it separately once or twice. The third is the real script, getmplayer. It gets the MPlayer CVS, win32 codecs, QT codecs , DivX, XViD, libavcodec CVS, RealPlayer codecs, LIVE.com streaming library, Vivo codecs, and Xanim DLLS. Then it compiles all the source-based codecs and moves the files as i saw fit, then calls configure-command, and makes and installs MPlayer. Once it gets a successful build, it downloads and installs a set of fonts for OSD and subtitles. The fourth file is limpio (spanish for clean). Deletes files and subdirectories created by previous runs of getmplayer. Just put the files in an empty directory and run ./getmplayer (you will need to press the enter key as the script logs in for CVS versions of some things and you get the usual Password: CVS prompt) (or less smart than you) Lots of those out there. :o) Damian I'll give it a shot mate...lessee what damage I can do! -- Mon Mar 17 15:00:01 EST 2003 15:00:01 up 9:13, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.20, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The only perfect science is hind-sight. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RE: Difference between 'ISO images' and ' Linux 9.0 for i586'
I'm about to install Mandrake Linux on my laptop and like to know the difference between those two. I guess I need to download ISO images 3 CDs where first one is bootable but what is the'Mandrake Linux 9.0 for i586 and higher'download for. Do I need anything from there? Thx, MartinDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online
[newbie] RAID configuration problems
Having big trouble trying to configure MDK 9.0 with a Promise IDE RAID. If there are drives attached to the the RAID controller, in this case a couple of Western Digital 80 giggers, the BIOS allows me to set up the RAID. However, the Mandrake 9.0 installer only sees two separate drives. It also seem to insist that these are hda and hdc, making the other drives in the box hde and hdf. I want to use the drives the installer sets to hde as the boot disk and location for the root directory, but since I can't seem to get the installer to see the array as a single volume, I tried to have the bootloader put on hde, with the plan to configure the RAID array later. But then the machine won't boot. Default location for the bootloader is on hda and it looks like the machine fails to find it on hde. Is there a different strain of Mandrake Linux that will properly see the RAID array at installation? Is there something I'm just missing here? Been beating my head on this for a day and it seems like it shouldn't be so difficult. The Promise controller is on the mtherboard, processor is an AMD XP2200+ with a gig of PC2700 RAM. Any help with this is appreciated. The machine has been running fine with just the two original drives (100 gig IBM 75GXP's) in it, but it just won't go with the array. Andy Miller Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAID configuration problems
On Monday 17 March 2003 12:31 am, Andrew Miller wrote: Having big trouble trying to configure MDK 9.0 with a Promise IDE RAID. If there are drives attached to the the RAID controller, in this case a couple of Western Digital 80 giggers, the BIOS allows me to set up the RAID. However, the Mandrake 9.0 installer only sees two separate drives. It also seem to insist that these are hda and hdc, making the other drives in the box hde and hdf. I want to use the drives the installer sets to hde as the boot disk and location for the root directory, but since I can't seem to get the installer to see the array as a single volume, I tried to have the bootloader put on hde, with the plan to configure the RAID array later. But then the machine won't boot. Default location for the bootloader is on hda and it looks like the machine fails to find it on hde. You can fix the drive lettering problem by setting ide=reverse as a kernel boot parameter. Is there a different strain of Mandrake Linux that will properly see the RAID array at installation? Is there something I'm just missing here? Been beating my head on this for a day and it seems like it shouldn't be so difficult. The Promise controller is on the mtherboard, processor is an AMD XP2200+ with a gig of PC2700 RAM. Any help with this is appreciated. The machine has been running fine with just the two original drives (100 gig IBM 75GXP's) in it, but it just won't go with the array. Well, it is really not a Mandrake problem but a Linux problem. ATA RAID is not supported well in Linux, mostly because the hardware vendors do not create linux drivers and do not make sufficient info available to the kernel guys to allow them to create drivers. So, you are pretty much SOL. ATA RAID is software RAID, meaning that a driver is required to make it work. Hardware RAID solutions like SCSI RAID do not need a driver, the hardware takes care of presenting the device to the OS as a standard SCSI device. 9.1 may be better, but I wouldn't count on it. Try setting them up as single drives and using Linux software RAID. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com