Re: [newbie] New Kernel installation.
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 01:10, Gonzalo Mdk wrote: Hi all, i'm new to this list (I usually use the expert) because i think this Q doesn't qualify for the expert list. I have a laptop (doesn't have a brand, is assembled in a place here in Chile) that has ACPI support, but when i recompile the kernel with acpi support (i have 2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB) it doesnt work. (gives me the following line: No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path (/proc/acpi). So i want to know where can i download a kernel that is for mandrake, like, is there a place for downloading the kernel 2.6.11mdk (or something like that), the newest version, so i can use the WIFI also. Hope you can give me some directions Salu2 Gonzalo Avaria ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.6.3-7mdk.i586.rpm If you download/install the sources, you should be able to recompile the kernel without much hassle. HTH. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Let us, then, fellow citizens, unite with one heart and one mind. Let us restore to social intercourse that harmony and affection without which liberty and even life itself are but dreary things. And let us reflect that having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled, we have yet gained little if we counternance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of a bitter and bloody persecutions. - Thomas Jefferson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New Kernel installation.
Gonzalo Mdk wrote: Hi all, i'm new to this list (I usually use the expert) because i think this Q doesn't qualify for the expert list. Actually it does, but you'll probly get better answers here, an less nags to add to the(ir) community twiki ;) I have a laptop (doesn't have a brand, is assembled in a place here in Chile) that has ACPI support, It might be non-standard compliant Windo$e ACPI. Even if runnin tom # dmidecode | grep -i acpi Version: ASUS A7V600 ACPI BIOS Revision 1005 ACPI is supported says it is. That's a direct reading from the system bios' firmware. Unfortunately most hardware is designed for Win$ux ;( but when i recompile the kernel with acpi support (i have 2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB) it doesnt work. (gives me the following line: No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path (/proc/acpi). tom # ll /proc/acpi total 0 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 ac_adapter/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 alarm dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 battery/ dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 button/ -r 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 dsdt dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 embedded_controller/ -r 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 event -r 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 fadt dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 fan/ -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 info dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 power_resource/ dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 processor/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 sleep dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 thermal_zone/ dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 video/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 wakeup dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 6 14:46 wmi/ So i want to know where can i download a kernel that is for mandrake, like, is there a place for downloading the kernel 2.6.11mdk (or something like that), the newest version, so i can use the WIFI also. Hope you can give me some directions Salu2 Gonzalo Avaria # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=m CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m # CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT is not set CONFIG_ACPI_CUSTOM_DSDT_INITRD=y CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0 # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER=m CONFIG_ACPI_TC1100=m That's from a 'stock' /boot/config-2.6.11-6mdkK74g. Well, OK it's not quite stock, I hand edited the .config (don't try that unless you know what you're doin. Use 'make xconfig') to enable K7 opts, and enable preempt, an more than 880MB ram support. None of the above ACPI options were changed. The =y are built in, the =m are modules (mostly for laptops). As long as I can remember, ACPI support is built into the kernel, even 2.2.x. Note CONFIG_ACPI=y There is no need to install anything or recompile Mandrake kernels to support ACPI (if the hardware truly does). Yes 2.6.11 does have better wifi support, but I only judge that from documentation and other's reports, not experience (I don't use wifi). You might try a cooker kernel and re-compile it on older systems. Get, ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake/devel/cooker/i586/media/main/kernel-source-2.6-2.6.11-6mdk.i586.rpm an don't forget to begin with 'make mrproper'. If you don't need to change the .config, then Edit Makefile, an change EXTRAVERSION = , an uncomment (enable) this line export INSTALL_PATH=/boot Im my above example, for instance I changed EXTRAVERSION to EXTRAVERSION = -6mdkK74g to denote, K7, preempt, and 1 gig ram support differences from the 'stock' .config make oldconfig make make modules_install make install Also make sure you don't have ACPI disabled. IOW's, there should be _no_ acpi statement in your boot parameters. Either lilo's append= line or in grub. Every acpi statement except =force will disable ACPI, either partially or completely. =on DNGN (does nothin, goes nowhere), ACPI is built into any Mandrake kernels as the default. If you do have a statement like acpi=ht remove it an don't forget to run 'lilo' You need not to make any changes to APM, as ACPI will overide it. You should also see extended IRQ support (above 15) with ACPI enabled. Give this a read, /usr/src/linux-2.6.11-6mdk/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which kernel?
On Monday 04 April 2005 20:05, Cameron MacDonald wrote: Hi I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use to find out which kernel I'm using? I know I've done it before, but I've got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball bearings , and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!. uname -r from the command line. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which kernel?
Cameron MacDonald wrote: Hi I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use to find out which kernel I'm using? I know I've done it before, but I've got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball bearings , and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!. Thanks Cam uname -a Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?
Pete Moscatt wrote: Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...), Pete Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people respect me more. Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?
Mr. Geek wrote: Pete Moscatt wrote: Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...), Pete Nice of you to notice. I got fed up with being called a 'Geek' all the time, so I decided to add the 'Mr' in the hopes it might make people respect me more. Unfortunately, it hasn't helped much, but at least it brings a smile to a few faces now and then! Sigh. Besides, it's like they say,when you're this old, they call you Mister! Grin! I like your real name better, though ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ You will always get the greatest recognition for the job you least like. ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?
G'Day Fajar, When I have a look, I see there are a number of 2.6.8.1-24 available, being ones like ENTERPRISE, SECURE, SMP and there may even me a few more. Now which one of these would I typically go for ? :-) Pete Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 15:35, Peter Moscatt wrote: I have recently installed MD 10.1 using the 3 download CDs. I now would like to update the kernel and see in the Updates that there are a number of options I can use. I guess the version I want to update is to 2.6 and see there a couple. Which one do I need to go for ? Pete Mine is 2.6.8.1-24mdk -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 19:12:03 up 1:30, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?
Thanks Mr Geek (I like the name...), No, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks. I will sort that out tonight. Pete Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fajar Priyanto wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2005 15:35, Peter Moscatt wrote: I have recently installed MD 10.1 using the 3 download CDs. I now would like to update the kernel and see in the Updates that there are a number of options I can use. I guess the version I want to update is to 2.6 and see there a couple. Which one do I need to go for ? Pete Mine is 2.6.8.1-24mdk Peter; Whichever kernel you go for, make sure you start by installing the 'kernel-source' version of the new kernel you want to install first. So, for example, if the kernel you want is kernel-2.6.8.1-24mdk, you would start by installing kernel-source-2.6-2.6.8.1-24mdk, then you would install your new kernel-2.6.8.1-24mdk, then run 'lilo -v', and then reboot the system selecting the new kernel in the process. Once you're satisfired that the new kernel is working fine, either edit your '/etc/lilo.conf' file manually or use the Boot Setup section of Mandrake Control Center (MCC) to set the new kernel as your default one. You can leave the old kernel installed, just in case, or you can remove it via the Remove Software section of MCC. HTH's -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which Kernel For 10.1 ?
Pete Moscatt wrote: When I have a look, I see there are a number of 2.6.8.1-24 available, being ones like ENTERPRISE, SECURE, SMP and there may even me a few more. Now which one of these would I typically go for ? :-) It depends what your requirements are. If you are running Mandrake at home on a desktop PC, then the standard version as loaded by default should be fine. However, should you have special requirements such as extra security, or optimisation for many users, or if you have a multiprocessor machine, then you would have a need for different versions. SMP = Symmetrical Multi-Processing Enterprise = Optimised for larger organisations Secure = should be obvious, for firewall use, etc Normally the standard port of the kernel as supplied by Mandrake is suitable for all of those uses, anyway, but each variant is tweaked for more applicability to those areas. On some motherboards, the smp version works better(even if the mobo is single-processor). cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
On Feb 20, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Melissa Allen wrote: prerequisites for installation, I've discovered that I do not know what kernel source headers are. [...] Hugh Dixon wrote: The kernel source can be installed using urpmi. I think if you do a search for files named kernel-source they will appear in mcc [...] An easy way to install the kernel source is to run urpmi $(uname -r). urpmi install the package. uname -r produces the kernel name you are running. Using $(commane) runs command and feads the output to into the command line just as if you had typed it. Thanks to both Hugh and Mikkel for your help. I found the correct kernel source on the CDs and installed it via the control center. Then I tried urpmi $(uname -r) and received as output many files names containing the string kernel-2.6.8.1-12mdk. Does this output suggest that everything that was needed was successfully installed, or is it a list of choices of what is available yet to be installed? Also, once the package is indeed installed, how do I find/recognize the kernel source _headers_? Melissa -- If it is committed in the name of God or country, there is no crime so heinous that the public will not forgive it. -Tom Robbins, writer (1936- ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
Melissa asked (paraphrased..) But where are the headers? 30 seconds, and I've already misfiled the original e-posting - D'Oh. The linux source is installed by default into a directory /usr/src/linux. Under this there is a tree, that I am not overly familiar with. The question becomes which headers (also known as 'include files') do you want? Have a look in /usr/src/linux and see if anything 'jumps out' as being appropriate. /usr/src/linux is a fairly standard path, so another application that requires the headers may 'know' to look there, in which case you should be OK, or may be happy being told the path is '/usr/src/linux'. - This I believe is how the nvidia drivers work, although I guess that's not much use to you :) Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
Hugh Dixon wrote: Melissa asked (paraphrased..) But where are the headers? 30 seconds, and I've already misfiled the original e-posting - D'Oh. The linux source is installed by default into a directory /usr/src/linux. Under this there is a tree, that I am not overly familiar with. The question becomes which headers (also known as 'include files') do you want? Have a look in /usr/src/linux and see if anything 'jumps out' as being appropriate. /usr/src/linux is a fairly standard path, so another application that requires the headers may 'know' to look there, in which case you should be OK, or may be happy being told the path is '/usr/src/linux'. - This I believe is how the nvidia drivers work, although I guess that's not much use to you :) Hugh Yes, with the kernel source installed, /usr/src/linux is a symlink to the kernel source tree. It usualy works. If it doesn't like that, then try /usr/src/linux/include or /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 - at least asm-i386 is what most people would be using... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
On Feb 21, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Hugh Dixon wrote: Melissa asked (paraphrased..) But where are the headers? 30 seconds, and I've already misfiled the original e-posting - D'Oh. The linux source is installed by default into a directory /usr/src/linux. Under this there is a tree, that I am not overly familiar with. The question becomes which headers (also known as 'include files') do you want? Have a look in /usr/src/linux and see if anything 'jumps out' as being appropriate. /usr/src/linux is a fairly standard path, so another application that requires the headers may 'know' to look there, in which case you should be OK, or may be happy being told the path is '/usr/src/linux'. - This I believe is how the nvidia drivers work, although I guess that's not much use to you :) Hugh Yes, with the kernel source installed, /usr/src/linux is a symlink to the kernel source tree. It usualy works. If it doesn't like that, then try /usr/src/linux/include or /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 - at least asm-i386 is what most people would be using... Again, thanks to both! I think I found what I am looking for under /usr/src. I'll give the installation a try tomorrow evening and report success or failure... Best wishes, Melissa Allen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
-Original Message- From: Melissa Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 12:24 PM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Bryan Phinney wrote: Never hurts to learn something. Well mostly, anyway. g The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of cases, you have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem working and even then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial. First of all, a belated thank you to Bryan and the others who have weighed in on my modem problem. I am beginning to see the wisdom of your advisement to buy an external serial modem. If the conversion of a winmodem to a linmodem was a pain for you, it may be nigh impossible for me.g Upon downloading the (free) driver for my particular SW modem and reading the prerequisites for installation, I've discovered that I do not know what kernel source headers are. My guess is that anybody who knows anything knows what these are and where to find them in the Mandrake 10.1 CDs, and that perhaps a person who is as ignorant as I has no business trying to do this installation. Nevertheless, if one of you out there could help me find the kernel source headers, I would be most grateful. Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you might want to get one despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did. ...and is probably what I will end up doing as well, but I would really like to try to make this modem work, just so I can say that I did it...g Thanks again, Melissa Allen The kernel source can be installed using urpmi. I think if you do a search for files named kernel-source they will appear in mcc (Have you found the software installer in mandrake control centre?) One problem you may have is that you need to know what kernel you are running 2.4 or 2.6 and also the patch number. This should be displayed when you boot the system, and in terminal windows. It will be something like 2.6.something with an mdk for mandrake on the end. The command uname run in a terminal will also display it for you. - I think it is uname -v but it may be uname -r, I cannot remember, sorry! Make sure you install the kernel source that matches the version you are running! HTH Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers
Hugh Dixon wrote: -Original Message- From: Melissa Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 12:24 PM To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] Linmodem-kernel source headers On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Bryan Phinney wrote: Never hurts to learn something. Well mostly, anyway. g The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of cases, you have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem working and even then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial. First of all, a belated thank you to Bryan and the others who have weighed in on my modem problem. I am beginning to see the wisdom of your advisement to buy an external serial modem. If the conversion of a winmodem to a linmodem was a pain for you, it may be nigh impossible for me.g Upon downloading the (free) driver for my particular SW modem and reading the prerequisites for installation, I've discovered that I do not know what kernel source headers are. My guess is that anybody who knows anything knows what these are and where to find them in the Mandrake 10.1 CDs, and that perhaps a person who is as ignorant as I has no business trying to do this installation. Nevertheless, if one of you out there could help me find the kernel source headers, I would be most grateful. Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you might want to get one despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did. ...and is probably what I will end up doing as well, but I would really like to try to make this modem work, just so I can say that I did it...g Thanks again, Melissa Allen The kernel source can be installed using urpmi. I think if you do a search for files named kernel-source they will appear in mcc (Have you found the software installer in mandrake control centre?) One problem you may have is that you need to know what kernel you are running 2.4 or 2.6 and also the patch number. This should be displayed when you boot the system, and in terminal windows. It will be something like 2.6.something with an mdk for mandrake on the end. The command uname run in a terminal will also display it for you. - I think it is uname -v but it may be uname -r, I cannot remember, sorry! Make sure you install the kernel source that matches the version you are running! HTH Hugh An easy way to install the kernel source is to run urpmi $(uname -r). urpmi install the package. uname -r produces the kernel name you are running. Using $(commane) runs command and feads the output to into the command line just as if you had typed it. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Make kernel background graphic go away...
On Friday 14 January 2005 05:47, Dark Shadows wrote: I can change the loader picture... However, no matter what i can NOT get rid of the back ground picture behind the kernel on boot...??? what is the deal? You could try this . As root, edit your /etc/lilo.conf to vga=792 save the file, run lilo as root. Logout. Reboot. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What kernel do I have?
Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: How do I find out what linux kernel I have? Regards Vegard type uname -a without quotes in terminal window. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 kernel boot problem
On Tuesday 02 November 2004 00:12, Azarnoosh Ali wrote: Hi, I tried to install mandrake 10.1 community on a PIII machin. During the installation anything were ok. but the system could not boot. when the boot process launched vmlinuz, the system restarted. I checked the bootsector and I used both lilo and grub. for example I tried to boot the system with a grub boot diskett, in the following steps: grab root (hd0,6) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grab kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x13e622] grab boot the last command results restarting the system with any additional message. I tried with another machin but the problem was not solved. I can boot the installed mandrake 10.1 with SUSE Linux 9.1 Boot CD with the option of Boot Installed System. But it is not possible to boot the system with its own kernel. Any idea? Thanks Ali Azarnoosh The standard 10.1 kernel is compiled for i686 which will not work on a PIII The installer is supposed to install the kernel version 'kernel-i586-up-1GB' on a PIII, but I have read reports that it still installs the standard kernel with some processors (I have seen this with a Via C3 processor). If you can boot with your Suse CD (or with your Mandrake CD in 'rescue' mode), then install the i586 kernel using the Mandrake Install GUI. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] smp kernel
On October 17, 2004 01:06 am, Marek Pawinski wrote: I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ? Marek I had the same problems with Mandrake 10, now im running Mandrake 10.1 and smp is working very well. Yes a normal kernel should work just fine for you. What version of Mandrake are you running ? Regards, Dan Gordon -- Sun Oct 17 08:27:49 EDT 2004 08:27:49 up 9:57, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 On Monday mornings I am dedicated to the proposition that all men are created jerks. -- H. Allen Smith, Let the Crabgrass Grow Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] smp kernel
Dan Gordon wrote: On October 17, 2004 01:06 am, Marek Pawinski wrote: I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ? Marek I had the same problems with Mandrake 10, now im running Mandrake 10.1 and smp is working very well. Yes a normal kernel should work just fine for you. What version of Mandrake are you running ? Regards, Dan Gordon I tried ML 10.0 Official at first and then i tried ML 10.1 Community with the same results. I will try the normal kernel, can i leave HT enabled in the BIOS still though with the normal kernel ? Marek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] smp kernel
On October 17, 2004 08:41 am, Marek Pawinski wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: On October 17, 2004 01:06 am, Marek Pawinski wrote: I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ? Marek I had the same problems with Mandrake 10, now im running Mandrake 10.1 and smp is working very well. Yes a normal kernel should work just fine for you. What version of Mandrake are you running ? Regards, Dan Gordon I tried ML 10.0 Official at first and then i tried ML 10.1 Community with the same results. I will try the normal kernel, can i leave HT enabled in the BIOS still though with the normal kernel ? Yes just select normal kernel instead of smp when you get lilo prompt. Regards, Dan Gordon -- 09:01:42 up 10:31, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.12, 0.05 Sun Oct 17 09:01:42 EDT 2004 At the end of your life there'll be a good rest, and no further activities are scheduled. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] smp kernel
Dan Gordon wrote: Hello list, A long time ago right about the time Mandrake 10 comunity came out someone asked me to let them know how the smp kernel was running for me. Well all I can say is it was not good for me. 75% of the time applications were segfaulting on me so I went with a regular kernel. Now I have installed Mandrake 10.1 yesterday and the default kernel it installed was 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp and I am happy to report it is running very well, I am very impressed with how things are working and want to say way to go Mandrake. Keep up the good work. Regards, Dan Gordon I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ? Marek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] smp kernel
Wow. I'm running the SMP kernel on my 2.8GHz P4 laptop and it works great. I don't have much experience with it so far, but I haven't had a single problem with it. You should be able to install the single proc kernel even on a multi-threaded machine though. On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 07:06:07 +0200, Marek Pawinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Gordon wrote: Hello list, A long time ago right about the time Mandrake 10 comunity came out someone asked me to let them know how the smp kernel was running for me. Well all I can say is it was not good for me. 75% of the time applications were segfaulting on me so I went with a regular kernel. Now I have installed Mandrake 10.1 yesterday and the default kernel it installed was 2.6.8.1-10mdksmp and I am happy to report it is running very well, I am very impressed with how things are working and want to say way to go Mandrake. Keep up the good work. Regards, Dan Gordon I am having a lot of segfaulting, my kernel, update kernel uninstalls itself and after a day or two my rpms i download seem to go bad with a smp kernel on ML OE, did you have these problems ? Can i run a normal kernel on a Hyper Threading machine ? -- David Johnson http://www.edave.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
Paul Smith wrote: Kevin Ferguson wrote: Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ? Source Kernel www.kernel.org Rpm one http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26dist=34size=18610507name=kernel-2.6.7.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm give that ago mate. Thanks, Kevin. Sorry for not having noticed the link that you had already given to us. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com That's alright, I never really see things infront of me, unless my girlfriend points them out to me ;) Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
Frank wrote: Kevin Ferguson wrote: Hi Guys Just a quickie. I'm experiementing at the moment. I have Mandrake 10 CE, with Kernel 2.6.3-4mdk installed. I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm downloading is 2.6.7. Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the source? Would I need to apply any patch's in between? Thanks Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Just my 2 cents worth as someone who has just done kernel stuff. Why not either: # urpmi kernel-source-2.6.7 and let urpmi do things for you. use the readme.txt to do the rest, OR: # urpmi kernel and from the list on offer - choose one? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Hi Frank I wasn't sure if it was in the urpmi so I thought I'd give it a try. I think I need to update my urpmi to be honest. Thanks again for your help. I'll post back if I have any probs Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
Kevin Ferguson wrote: Frank wrote: Kevin Ferguson wrote: Hi Guys Just a quickie. I'm experiementing at the moment. I have Mandrake 10 CE, with Kernel 2.6.3-4mdk installed. I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm downloading is 2.6.7. Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the source? Would I need to apply any patch's in between? Thanks Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Just my 2 cents worth as someone who has just done kernel stuff. Why not either: # urpmi kernel-source-2.6.7 and let urpmi do things for you. use the readme.txt to do the rest, OR: # urpmi kernel and from the list on offer - choose one? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Hi Frank I wasn't sure if it was in the urpmi so I thought I'd give it a try. I think I need to update my urpmi to be honest. Thanks again for your help. I'll post back if I have any probs Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com If you get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] urpmi]# urpmi kernel Everything already installed Then search for the package you want and do a : #urpmi.addmedia any name you like full url to the sites synthesis.hdlist.cz file -- Regards SnapafunFrank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm downloading is 2.6.7. Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the source? Would I need to apply any patch's in between? Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
Paul Smith wrote: I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm downloading is 2.6.7. Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the source? Would I need to apply any patch's in between? Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ? Thanks in advance, Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Source Kernel www.kernel.org Rpm one http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26dist=34size=18610507name=kernel-2.6.7.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm give that ago mate. regards Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
Kevin Ferguson wrote: Where from can one get the kernel 2.6.7 ? Source Kernel www.kernel.org Rpm one http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26dist=34size=18610507name=kernel-2.6.7.2mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm give that ago mate. Thanks, Kevin. Sorry for not having noticed the link that you had already given to us. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Building Kernel
Kevin Ferguson wrote: Hi Guys Just a quickie. I'm experiementing at the moment. I have Mandrake 10 CE, with Kernel 2.6.3-4mdk installed. I'm wanting to build my kernel from source, the lastest kernel I'm downloading is 2.6.7. Is if ok for me to go ahead and build the source? Would I need to apply any patch's in between? Thanks Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Just my 2 cents worth as someone who has just done kernel stuff. Why not either: # urpmi kernel-source-2.6.7 and let urpmi do things for you. use the readme.txt to do the rest, OR: # urpmi kernel and from the list on offer - choose one? -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 29, 2004 09:33:09, Tom Brinkman wrote: snip I've seen numion recommended on other lists. Here's why I don't use it. In a test there just now it ended with 23,961 kbps for my 1,500 kbps connection. Which is nearly 16 times faster than my DSL is theoretically capable of. An impossibility! Good for braggin rights tho ;) I agree completely. There are much better tests available. That one has the advantage of being extremely graphical. g Accurate? Well not so much. It is correct, an I apologize for not mentioning that dslreports requires a java enabled browser. At least it gives realistic results tho ;) Your cable results are exceptional. Cable users around here (RoadRunner, $39/mo.) report 600 to 900kbps. Or about 1/2 to 2/3's the speed I get with DSL. They also report that's it's slower at night or on weekends. DSL remains constant no matter how many users are on line. I do believe you are correct Tom, in all respects. I'm uncertain why the situation is different here than every other city I've heard about but it is. Exceptional usability and decent customer service is why I haven't bothered to switch from my cable provider to anything else. Here in Edmonton the opposite conditions in re. the speed, reliability, and consistency of DSL vs cable obtains. A lot of my friends have switched from the phone company (DSL) to cable. This would be one example of why: 2004-07-29 12:01:40 EST: 2449 / 455 Your download speed : 2508636 bps, or 2449 kbps. A 306.2 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 466083 bps, or 455 kbps. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 10:02:26 up 19:34, 2 users, load average: 0.42, 0.31, 0.27 n3tg0d has /usr/bin/emacs been put into /etc/shells yet? :P -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCSImZqvqlrLPr5YRAvYiAJ4obElSCc/gXVdFsHmPVT/We4B/HQCfZ5wd lI4hHQwtytkt2+sa3y6TWP0= =9jWi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 03:24, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi guys, Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to upgrade my kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have to do it manually. I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26 using Con Kolivas' patches. After upgraded, everything seems okay. Supermount is supported, etc... But, ini dmesg I noticed this: RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 invalid compressed format (err=2)6Freeing initrd memory: 343k freed EXT2-fs warning (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_read_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2 What is causing that? Is that normal? Does it mean that my ext3 becomes non-journaling FS ext2? In 2.4.22 kernel, I noticed in dmesg that linux loads ext3.o, which is not occurs in 2.4.26. What do you think guys? Thanks. I think something is wrong. When I was on dialup I had no problem using urpmi. IMHO urpmi on dialup is manually. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 July 2004 07:15 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 28 July 2004 03:24, Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi guys, Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to upgrade my kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have to do it manually. I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26 using Con Kolivas' patches. I think something is wrong. When I was on dialup I had no problem using urpmi. IMHO urpmi on dialup is manually. Hi Hoyt, No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :(( - -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux.arinet.org 19:59:47 up 5:21, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBB6PUkp5CsIXuxqURAh+RAJ9E/9gRvVv+T+qvCSssQZChrc8lZQCeIOb+ qaQxkFApsRrNdUBl4E2a+e8= =EjSo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 11:24 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Hi guys, Since I'm using dialup connection, I can't make use of urpmi to upgrade my kernel (or in fact, any other package :(). So, I have to do it manually. I upgraded my mdk9.2 from 2.4.22 to 2.4.26 using Con Kolivas' patches. I think something is wrong. When I was on dialup I had no problem using urpmi. IMHO urpmi on dialup is manually. Hi Hoyt, No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :(( I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can get online dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time used. DSL is 29.95. There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of competion like we do. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Jul 28 13:27:18 EDT 2004 13:27:18 up 4 days, 13:53, 0 users, load average: 0.06, 0.12, 0.06 Well, the handwriting is on the floor. -- Joe E. Lewis Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:29 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: Hi Hoyt, No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :(( I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can get online dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time used. DSL is 29.95. There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of competion like we do. Regards, Dan Gordon The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are sort'a useless. 256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for $21/month. 1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49. 8Mb DSL (not asynchronous, dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to businesses. Several other options. Only with accounts more than $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC). To check your actual speed http://www.dslreports.com/stest My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up on a good day. Just like with dialup (56kbps), you'll never get the full theoretical speed. IOW's 1278 is about right for my 1500 connection. And you can't divide by 8 (bits per byte) to get the actual KiloBytes per second. 'urpmi' displays KB's/sec and I generally get 155 to 160 K/s from mirrors. I've got a newsgroup feed that sometimes gets me near 170KB/s, but more often in the 165K/s range. So a lot depens on the server to connect to, and the hops in between. To put this in perspective, a good 56k dialup will yield about 4.7 K/s. So my DSL is about 35 times faster than the best dialup, but for 4 times the cost. On the plus side, aDSL has POTS (voice phone line) piggybacked on and I can download at 160KB/s and still talk on the phone. Tho phone service is a separate charge, just as it is with dialup. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 15:02, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:29 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: Hi Hoyt, No, there's nothing wrong with urpmi. The only problem is that using dialup connection, it takes forever to use urpmi, in other words... I have to pay a huge amount of internet and phone bills at the end of the month because of the online time I use for urpmi to the net. :(( I guess I don't understand your ISP here in Oklahoma I can get online dialup for 9.95 mo with no extra charges for time used. DSL is 29.95. There are still some places that don't enjoy the benefit's of competion like we do. Regards, Dan Gordon The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are sort'a useless. 256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for $21/month. 1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49. 8Mb DSL (not asynchronous, dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to businesses. Several other options. Only with accounts more than $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC). To check your actual speed http://www.dslreports.com/stest My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up on a good day. Just like with dialup (56kbps), you'll never get the full theoretical speed. IOW's 1278 is about right for my 1500 connection. And you can't divide by 8 (bits per byte) to get the actual KiloBytes per second. 'urpmi' displays KB's/sec and I generally get 155 to 160 K/s from mirrors. I've got a newsgroup feed that sometimes gets me near 170KB/s, but more often in the 165K/s range. So a lot depens on the server to connect to, and the hops in between. To put this in perspective, a good 56k dialup will yield about 4.7 K/s. So my DSL is about 35 times faster than the best dialup, but for 4 times the cost. On the plus side, aDSL has POTS (voice phone line) piggybacked on and I can download at 160KB/s and still talk on the phone. Tho phone service is a separate charge, just as it is with dialup. True my service is 1,500kbs. I don't have figures to match yours. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Manual kernel upgrade - the result
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On July 28, 2004 14:02:02, Tom Brinkman wrote: whack'n'snip The part y'all leave out is speed, so price quotes are sort'a useless. 256k (down)/56k (up) aDSL is available here for $21/month. 1.5Mb/256k aDSL is $49. 8Mb DSL (not asynchronous, dedicated line, no phone) is near $180/mo, but only available to businesses. Several other options. Only with accounts more than $49/mo. is the equipment free (ie, modem and NIC). To check your actual speed http://www.dslreports.com/stest You may have wanted to mention to anyone that hasn't managed to get java working yet (not really hard) that this test requires java applets. My 1.5Mb (1500kbps) DSL gets about 1278 kbps down, 214 kbps up on a good day. I get about twice those values on average. Shaw High Speed XTreme cable. Around $31.00/month Canadian. Think x.7523 to convert to U.S currency at today's close, or $23.32 U.S. converted. For those that don't have, haven't been able to get java working, or don't want to; try the speed test at numion. It tests your connection to various web sites nationally or internationally. The URL is: http://www.numion.com/ You can also test your website if you like. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Alpha 1) for i586 kernel 2.6.8-0.rc2.2mdk 19:50:18 up 5:22, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.09 The light at the end of the tunnel may be an oncoming dragon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBCFn5ZqvqlrLPr5YRAtJ6AJ9Iu/yw8Q2yNtaUfl2LSCJ+AE7cMwCfctFJ f7gZ1Zm+WDQDKhXYbI6IDqI= =ALoM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 01:16, et wrote: On Thursday 29 April 2004 01:55 am, Katinka Peter wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote: Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but then I get the following error message: pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the explanation is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel driver is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the /dev/ppp device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the following command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0 When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have ppp in the /dev folder. I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of problems with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of them. Marc I`ve only done an upgrade, which might be the problem. I`ll do a clean install instead and hope it`ll work then. Thanks for your advice, Kat install kdenetwork Thanks, it worked without problems after a clean install. Kat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support
On Thursday 29 April 2004 01:55 am, Katinka Peter wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote: Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but then I get the following error message: pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the explanation is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel driver is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the /dev/ppp device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the following command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0 When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have ppp in the /dev folder. I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of problems with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of them. Marc I`ve only done an upgrade, which might be the problem. I`ll do a clean install instead and hope it`ll work then. Thanks for your advice, Kat install kdenetwork -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support
I did a upgrade on my wife's PC and except for fixing a few icons it seemed to go in good. She user's kppp and it works fine. roly On Wednesday 28 April 2004 06:07 pm, Marc wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote: Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but then I get the following error message: pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the explanation is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel driver is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the /dev/ppp device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the following command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0 When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have ppp in the /dev folder. I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of problems with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of them. Marc -- MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe! Linux Counter #241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KPPP: Kernel PPP support
On Wednesday 28 April 2004 09:26 am, Katinka Peter wrote: Since I`ve updated from 8.2 to 10.0 Official, I cannot connect to the internet anymore. When I try to connect using KPPP, the modem dials but then I get the following error message: pppd daemon died unexpectedly! Exit status 4 (On man pppd, the explanation is: 4: The kernel does not support PPP, for example, the PPP kernel driver is not included or cannot be loaded.). Details: unable to open the /dev/ppp device. You need to create the /dev/ppp device by executing the following command as root: ^lmknod /dev/ppp c 1808 0 When I do this, I get the message: substitution failed, so I don`t have ppp in the /dev folder. I`d be grateful for help. Thanks, Kat Did you do a clean install of 10.0 or a upgrade? I had LOTS of problems with 10.0 after upgrades and internet connections was one of them. Marc I`ve only done an upgrade, which might be the problem. I`ll do a clean install instead and hope it`ll work then. Thanks for your advice, Kat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Win4lin kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 16 April 2004 01:49, Marc wrote: It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a win4lin enabled kernel. I found kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 at mandrake cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my existing kernel be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able to boot from eather kernel? Assuming that it works like the ones available from Netraverse, it will add a kernel, and your existing one will remain available. The required kernel version must be installed first, though. The discription of the kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that it requires kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk. I am running ML 10.0 community download edition that first came out a month ago. I am running kernel 2.6.3-4mdk if I update to the new 10.0 final that just came out will it have the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready installed? Sorry for asking so many questions in 1 message but upgrading kernels scares the hell outta me. And rightly so, I think. Don't upgrade kernels, just install another one. Lilo will gain another stanza, and both versions will be available. It's easy, and must be foolproof - I've never met any problems, and if there were any, I'd find them g Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAf4aWkFAvMr/nNX8RAk99AJ0W+xx/6Jlf7NUa9RBxIMxBXfN4wACfQjA4 9P3OKI+dnSYXr5oXD8K+TqQ= =b4C+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Win4lin kernel
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 10:49, Marc wrote: It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a win4lin enabled kernel. I found kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 at mandrake cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my existing kernel be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able to boot from eather kernel? The discription of the kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that it requires kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk. I am running ML 10.0 community download edition that first came out a month ago. I am running kernel 2.6.3-4mdk if I update to the new 10.0 final that just came out will it have the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready installed? Sorry for asking so many questions in 1 message but upgrading kernels scares the hell outta me. TIA Marc It SHOULD just put another kernel in the /boot dir and add itself to your lilo menu...(did it under 9.1 before and that's what it did) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I know the disposition of women: when you will, they won't; when you won't, they set their hearts upon you of their own inclination. -- Publius Terentius Afer (Terence) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Win4lin kernel
On Thursday 15 April 2004 08:49 pm, Marc wrote: It seems that in order to run win4lin I will have to install a win4lin enabled kernel. I found kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 at mandrake cooker. If I run this rpm what will happen? Will my existing kernel be replaced or will the new kernel be added. Will I be able to boot from eather kernel? The discription of the kernel-win4lin-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk RPM for i586 says that it requires kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk. I am running ML 10.0 community download edition that first came out a month ago. I am running kernel 2.6.3-4mdk if I update to the new 10.0 final that just came out will it have the i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk kernel allready installed? If you are currently running kernel 2.6.3-7mdk from community, there is a kernel-win4lin-2.6.3-7mdk that matches it in cooker contrib. It uses the same modules that the main kernel uses, so it is a small download (about 1.5MB), and it has menu icons and some other scripts to get it installed properly, so it is the best one to use. I found it here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/cooker/contrib/i586/kernel-win4lin-2.6.3.7mdk-3-8mdk.i586.rpm For some reason, it never made it into contrib for 10.0 CE. I'll email the maintainer tos find out why. I also just noticed that this is the package you found, and yes it is the one to use. make sure you match the pacake to your kernel, in other words the package you reference matches kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.6.3.7mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New kernel (was: USB SDcard reader)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 12:53, Paul wrote: On 03/27/2004 11:44 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: Sorry - I did not make myself clear. You would not find it on MU, I think, because doing it from there would update the kernel rather than installing a parallel one. It's too dangerous. I found it in the normal Software Installer, which said that it would be downloaded from Update Sources. I found the newer kernel! Looking in the right place does help... *grin* So... before I blow up my box... when I select to install it: will the software installer add a new entry to lilo.conf for it, so I can select that at boottime? Yes. You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot into either one. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZXm4kFAvMr/nNX8RAoWHAJ4iaNZb9MsyC5YFr4eiMEWiB5op0ACfdKvj 5epzd0W98xZxgd69POD/T4g= =8mbO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New kernel
On 03/27/2004 01:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes. You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot into either one. Okay. I got the new kernel installed and running. Then I plugged in the camera. /var/log/messages keeps telling me the same, no drivers or modules for the new device. No /dev/sd? device shows up. gtkam does not recognise anything as a generic ptp device. /proc/bus/usb/devices does still show the camera. So this ends up in a dead end again, from where I look at it... Thanks for the assistance, though! Paul -- There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it. - Marcus Tullius Cicero http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] New kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 March 2004 13:09, Paul wrote: On 03/27/2004 01:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: Yes. You will have a longer lilo, from which you will be able to boot into either one. Okay. I got the new kernel installed and running. Then I plugged in the camera. /var/log/messages keeps telling me the same, no drivers or modules for the new device. No /dev/sd? device shows up. gtkam does not recognise anything as a generic ptp device. /proc/bus/usb/devices does still show the camera. So this ends up in a dead end again, from where I look at it... Thanks for the assistance, though! I'm sorry to say that I think you're right. Better luck with the card reader Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAZYK7kFAvMr/nNX8RAp2HAJ0Sx3ZUYADlrPUNsGQ3Ws1uuyGBUwCggBoC rz7l2bt6RNpHh88H4yA4MBQ= =b24J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
- Original Message - From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm Hi there, where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm? Thanks Hi, you can find the kernel-source for the standard 2.4.22-10mdk kernel here: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk.i586.rpm The update kernel-source 2.4.22-26mdk here: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-26mdk.i586.rpm HTH. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
- Original Message - From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm Hi there, where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm? Thanks ** Oopson second reading of your request, perhaps you were looking for kernel src rpm? If so, the kernel src rpm 2.4.22-26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm is here: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm Regards. :-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
many thanks for your valuable help. On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 13:40, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm Hi there, where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm? Thanks ** Oopson second reading of your request, perhaps you were looking for kernel src rpm? If so, the kernel src rpm 2.4.22-26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm is here: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm Regards. :-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 01:02 pm, GV wrote: many thanks for your valuable help. On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 13:40, Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: GV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:32:54 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm Hi there, where can I find and download the 2.4.22 kernel source rpm? Thanks ** Oopson second reading of your request, perhaps you were looking for kernel src rpm? If so, the kernel src rpm 2.4.22-26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm is here: ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/u pdates/9.2/SRPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm Regards. :-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** I thought the new kernel with all security fixes was 2.4.24 ? That's what I'm using on here. It's Slackware Linux 9.1. -- __ We Are 138 http://www.suse.com http://www.slackware.org http://www.bsd.org http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://www.cannibalholocaust.net http://www.misfits.com http://www.onethirtyeight.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday 11 February 2004 2:13 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote: whack I thought the new kernel with all security fixes was 2.4.24 ? That's what I'm using on here. It's Slackware Linux 9.1. The new kernel with all the security fixes may be 2.4.24 for Slackware, but the latest update kernel for Mandrake 9.2 is $/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm For Mandrake 9.1 $/updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.27mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm The latest 2.4 series kernel for cooker right now is the one in my signature, 2.6 is at $/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.6.2.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Shall we try to keep the confusion to a minimum? Thanks. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.3mdk 14:39:28 up 2 days, 6 min, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.12, 0.10 The nation that controls magnetism controls the universe. -- Chester Gould/Dick Tracy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKqRPZqvqlrLPr5YRAhUXAKCeNzAFvUTcxWPPEsjCwQuj0AR0FQCfeqvD fK/KyzCdYlLxKj75pNXDR0I= =4wNj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
On Wednesday 11 February 2004 04:53 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: Wednesday 11 February 2004 2:13 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote: whack I thought the new kernel with all security fixes was 2.4.24 ? That's what I'm using on here. It's Slackware Linux 9.1. The new kernel with all the security fixes may be 2.4.24 for Slackware, but the latest update kernel for Mandrake 9.2 is $/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-2.4.22.26mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm For Mandrake 9.1 $/updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.27mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm The latest 2.4 series kernel for cooker right now is the one in my signature, 2.6 is at $/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-2.6.2.1 mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Shall we try to keep the confusion to a minimum? Thanks. Charlie Sorry, I didn't know they used a different numbering scheme. I thought they all used a similar kernel version. -- __ We Are 138 http://www.suse.com http://www.slackware.org http://www.bsd.org http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://www.cannibalholocaust.net http://www.misfits.com http://www.onethirtyeight.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.4.22 kernel source rpm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday 11 February 2004 2:58 pm, Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote: Shall we try to keep the confusion to a minimum? Thanks. Charlie Sorry, I didn't know they used a different numbering scheme. I thought they all used a similar kernel version. That's OK, you seem to read and answer to this list on almost as many boxes as I sometimes do. g I'm sure Slack Ware modifies the Vanilla kernel to at least the same extent that Mandrake and all other distributions do, so I'm also certain there are incompatibilities between all of those distributions' kernels. That would explain the numbering differences. Don't forget to that a lot of the security fixes from various newer kernel versions can be ported back to the older versions in order to maintain consistency for releases. Not to mention the differences between .deb and .rpm. (-: Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.3mdk 14:59:29 up 2 days, 26 min, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.24, 0.22 Neglect of duty does not cease, by repetition, to be neglect of duty. -- Napoleon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKqdLZqvqlrLPr5YRAjVdAJ4lWgq11gmlmjr/Xdi/mVoYHsObOQCgkM74 TDGk9ozDdZuV20efKwCqyx4= =SECY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Missing kernel config file
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:28:19 + To: NEWBIE 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Missing kernel config file Missing kernel config file == OK, so, packages, kdeadmin-3-1-8mdk kdeadminkpackage-3-1-8mdk are definately installed When in kde - system - linux kernel the window complains, The kernel configuration could not be read due to the following error: cannot open /usr/src/linux/arch//config.in for reading Either your kernel sources contain invalid configuration rules or you just found a bug in the KDE Kernel Configurator. and it says path to kernel sources :/usr/src/linux but no such directory exists trouble is I cannot find any config.in file anywhere what must I do to accomplish a kde kernel configeration interface John *** Hi John, I would say that you need to install the kernel-source package for your kernel. That should provide you with all the stuff you are looking for. HTH. Best regards to you. :-) --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Missing kernel config file
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:32:53 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missing kernel config file == OK, so, packages, kdeadmin-3-1-8mdk kdeadminkpackage-3-1-8mdk are definately installed When in kde - system - linux kernel the window complains, The kernel configuration could not be read due to the following error: cannot open /usr/src/linux/arch//config.in for reading Either your kernel sources contain invalid configuration rules or you just found a bug in the KDE Kernel Configurator. and it says path to kernel sources :/usr/src/linux but no such directory exists trouble is I cannot find any config.in file anywhere what must I do to accomplish a kde kernel configeration interface become root, then: ln -s /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux That'll make the sym link. John -- Sat Feb 7 11:22:13 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 He who laughs, lasts. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update
On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:18 pm, marc resnick wrote: On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:50 pm, marc resnick wrote: On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote: I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does anyone know what I should do? ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like 'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force' (you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather than 'linux' if you've updated kernels) acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface force Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform off Disable ACPI ht Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT, disabling the run-time AML interpreter. Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable? It works in Windoze doesn't count. If you get ACPI enabled, check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented. I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file offlist as an example. Tom, I've tried enabling ACPI before, but Linux doesn't boot. Even when I force it, I only get a blank screen. I also think my hardware supports it, but I'm not sure. I'm not certain if I updated my kernel. I did download some packages once, which added some options to Lilo for booting, but I deleted them from the boot menu. =/. What do you suggest I do? -Marc I tried to boot with an updated version of my kernel(2.4.22-26 rather than 2.4.22-10), but on boot, I get an error about being unable to locate a DSDT something or other. I'm stumped. Google turned this up for 'dsdt linux' http://www.linux.com/howtos/ACPI-HOWTO/dsdt.shtml For most all situation, Mandrake defaults to disabling ACPI. Most hardware has problems with it. The only thing you can do, AFAIK, is to try enabling it and see if it works. If if doesn't, you'll need somebody smarter than me to help, or give up. Generally, Google is your best friend. On my recently new motherboard (desktop), Mandrake used 'acpi=ht', which is pretty standard. It disables acpi, but allows for HT (hyper threading, which I don't have anyhow). I noticed tho in '/var/log/dmesg' that there were some boot warnings, 'somethin wants IRQ3, but gets IRQ5', and another, 'somethin about spurious IRQ7'. Thinkin ACPI had nothin to do with IRQ handling, and havin APIC enabled, I just ignored the mesgs for a while. Then I read somethin somewhere (Goggle search) that mentioned enabling ACPI to clear up those errors. I did and it did, and now going into and out of idle power suspend is much more reliable. It also cleared up a little occaisional scratchiness in alsa sound ouput (which I reckon was the IRQ3/5 deal). Anecdotal, but I suspect the Advanced Configuration part of ACPI, allows Advanced Programmable Interrupt Control (APIC), to fully do it's job (?). -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update
On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote: I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does anyone know what I should do? ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like 'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force' (you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather than 'linux' if you've updated kernels) acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface force Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform off Disable ACPI ht Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT, disabling the run-time AML interpreter. Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable? It works in Windoze doesn't count. If you get ACPI enabled, check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented. I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file offlist as an example. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update
On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote: I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does anyone know what I should do? ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like 'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force' (you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather than 'linux' if you've updated kernels) acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface force Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform off Disable ACPI ht Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT, disabling the run-time AML interpreter. Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable? It works in Windoze doesn't count. If you get ACPI enabled, check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented. I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file offlist as an example. Tom, I've tried enabling ACPI before, but Linux doesn't boot. Even when I force it, I only get a blank screen. I also think my hardware supports it, but I'm not sure. I'm not certain if I updated my kernel. I did download some packages once, which added some options to Lilo for booting, but I deleted them from the boot menu. =/. What do you suggest I do? -Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update
On Sunday 18 January 2004 05:50 pm, marc resnick wrote: On Sunday 18 January 2004 12:29 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 17 January 2004 07:31 pm, marc resnick wrote: I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does anyone know what I should do? ACPI is enabled by default in the kernel. You never needed a patch. Check your lilo.conf line and remove anything like 'acpi=off' or acpi=ht' from the kernel's append= line. Reboot. If that didn't do it, you can try adding 'acpi=force' to the append line as a last resort. BUT don't add it to lilo.conf just yet. At the lilo splash screen, press Esc and type 'linux acpi=force' (you may have to use one of the displayed kernel versions rather than 'linux' if you've updated kernels) acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface force Force ACPI on, even if blacklisted platform off Disable ACPI ht Limit ACPI to boot-time LAPIC enumeration for HT, disabling the run-time AML interpreter. Are you sure your hardware is ACPI capable? It works in Windoze doesn't count. If you get ACPI enabled, check /var/log/dmesg to see how succesfully it was implemented. I have ACPI enabled. If you want I can send you my dmesg file offlist as an example. Tom, I've tried enabling ACPI before, but Linux doesn't boot. Even when I force it, I only get a blank screen. I also think my hardware supports it, but I'm not sure. I'm not certain if I updated my kernel. I did download some packages once, which added some options to Lilo for booting, but I deleted them from the boot menu. =/. What do you suggest I do? -Marc I tried to boot with an updated version of my kernel(2.4.22-26 rather than 2.4.22-10), but on boot, I get an error about being unable to locate a DSDT something or other. I'm stumped. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Patching Kernel with ACPI Support--Update
On Saturday 17 January 2004 06:00 pm, marc resnick wrote: Hello all, In an attempt to patch my Kernel to get ACPI, I received these errors: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# patch -p1 /home/marc/acpi-20031203-2.4.25.diff patching file arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c Hunk #1 FAILED at 1106. 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file arch/i386/kernel/smpboot.c.rej I followed instructions on a site I found, and am not sure what it means. I'm thinking that I could have gotten the wrong version for my Kernel, but I don't know how to find out what Kernel I'm using. Thanks in advance Marc I found my kernel version, and used the patch that went with it. As I continued with the install, it kept saying that the patch had been previously installed. I overwrote, because acpi still didn't work on my computer. I continued to get failures also. When I finally finished, I had no /proc/acpi folder. Does anyone know what I should do? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
On Saturday 27 Dec 2003 6:30 am, Steven Nelson wrote: I don't know if this will help, I thought it might. I finished installing the kernel (kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and kernel-source (kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm) about an hour ago. I tried a different method then the one above and it worked fine. Installed the kernel and kernel-source by typing these commands in at the init 3, root command line. rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm After they installed. I went to the /etc (still root) folder by using the command: cd /etc Then ran the command: lilo -v It configured a part of the lilo config file. Rebooted and everything was fine, the kernel and kernel-source were installed. After the kernel and kernel-source were installed I installed the video driver. It built the customized kernel module, because the kernel and kernel-source were now installed. THe driver installed fine. Ran the config and the desktop loaded fine. I installed the same packages yesterday from mcc. It worked fine. I rebooted to the new kernel, which was called 2422-21, then edited /etc/lilo.conf to make it the default and ran lilo. A subsiquent reboot worked fine. At some point I'll have to re-install the Nvidia drivers, but I haven't had them in since upgrading to 9.2. If I had I'd have removed them before installing -21. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote: Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell me how to completely install those files from init 3? From, Steven Log in as you, then at the command prompt type su and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then; cd /mnt/cdrom enter ls enter You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the prompt type urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word kernel and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and the kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, and strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history to the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in the package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then strike the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After this package installs and you are back at the command prompt type: /sbin/lilo -v enter When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the directory you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do this from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. Simplest way to do this from where you are is to use Ctrl+D this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type reboot enter You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is running the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory you saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do the install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you have the system set not to start X automatically just type startx enter after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. Let the list know, OK? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 10:05:21 up 5 days, 19:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.34 Well, I'm INVISIBLE AGAIN ... I might as well pay a visit to the LADIES ROOM ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7G+kZqvqlrLPr5YRAlk1AJ9vjAMc7Zn/OjbeOtqdkuTtaYISDgCaA8PQ ADYSSJJOodF5jfbrQ9dJXYw= =9EiP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
Hi Charlie, Does this method works for GRUB as well? Regards Edward Wijaya On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:28:04 -0700, Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote: Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell me how to completely install those files from init 3? From, Steven Log in as you, then at the command prompt type su and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then; cd /mnt/cdrom enter ls enter You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the prompt type urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word kernel and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and the kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, and strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history to the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in the package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then strike the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After this package installs and you are back at the command prompt type: /sbin/lilo -v enter When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the directory you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do this from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. Simplest way to do this from where you are is to use Ctrl+D this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type reboot enter You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is running the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory you saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do the install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you have the system set not to start X automatically just type startx enter after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. Let the list know, OK? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 10:05:21 up 5 days, 19:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.34 Well, I'm INVISIBLE AGAIN ... I might as well pay a visit to the LADIES ROOM ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7G+kZqvqlrLPr5YRAlk1AJ9vjAMc7Zn/OjbeOtqdkuTtaYISDgCaA8PQ ADYSSJJOodF5jfbrQ9dJXYw= =9EiP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday 27 December 2003 3:31 am, Edward Wijaya wrote: Hi Charlie, Does this method works for GRUB as well? Regards Edward Wijaya The boot loader shouldn't make a difference Edward. The steps are the same, the only difference is Grub versus Lilo. Just be sure there's an image of the new kernel to use after the install and it should still work. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 19:57:11 up 6 days, 5:46, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.62, 0.68 Interchangeable parts won't. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7PWsZqvqlrLPr5YRAo4oAJ90WumAEyphIMDlO3TKqydBaL6zCwCfUato U+Hik3958W/9iiof7Bstkok= =zDOO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
From: Edward Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source. Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:31:48 - Hi Charlie, Does this method works for GRUB as well? Regards Edward Wijaya On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:28:04 -0700, Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote: Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell me how to completely install those files from init 3? From, Steven Log in as you, then at the command prompt type su and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then; cd /mnt/cdrom enter ls enter You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the prompt type urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word kernel and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and the kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, and strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history to the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in the package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then strike the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After this package installs and you are back at the command prompt type: /sbin/lilo -v enter When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the directory you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do this from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. Simplest way to do this from where you are is to use Ctrl+D this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type reboot enter You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is running the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory you saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do the install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you have the system set not to start X automatically just type startx enter after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. Let the list know, OK? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 10:05:21 up 5 days, 19:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.34 Well, I'm INVISIBLE AGAIN ... I might as well pay a visit to the LADIES ROOM ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7G+kZqvqlrLPr5YRAlk1AJ9vjAMc7Zn/OjbeOtqdkuTtaYISDgCaA8PQ ADYSSJJOodF5jfbrQ9dJXYw= =9EiP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I don't know if this will help, I thought it might. I finished installing the kernel (kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and kernel-source (kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm) about an hour ago. I tried a different method then the one above and it worked fine. Installed the kernel and kernel-source by typing these commands in at the init 3, root command line. rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm After they installed. I went to the /etc (still root) folder by using the command: cd /etc Then ran the command: lilo -v It configured a part of the lilo config file. Rebooted and everything was fine, the kernel and kernel-source were installed. After the kernel and kernel-source were installed I installed the video driver. It built the customized kernel module, because the kernel and kernel-source were now installed. THe driver installed fine. Ran the config and the desktop loaded fine. From, Steven _ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source.
From: Edward Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing kernel and kernel source. Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:31:48 - Hi Charlie, Does this method works for GRUB as well? Regards Edward Wijaya On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:28:04 -0700, Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 25 December 2003 8:57 pm, Steven Nelson wrote: Downloaded kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm from a Mandrake ftp server. I burned them to a cd so that I can install them from init 3. Will somebody tell me how to completely install those files from init 3? From, Steven Log in as you, then at the command prompt type su and provide the root password when requested to become super user. Then; cd /mnt/cdrom enter ls enter You should see a list (ls) of the files/packages on the cdrom. At the prompt type urpmi kern(now strike the Tab button) and you should see the word kernel and a flashing cursor, plus the choices corresponding to the kernel and the kernel-source. Pick the next two characters in the name of the package you want to install first, hit the tab button to auto complete the command, and strike Enter. After that package installs and you return to the command prompt use the Up arrow on your keyboard to page back in the bash history to the previous command, backspace out the characters that are different in the package names and use the Tab button for auto completion again, then strike the Enter key again when you have the package name at the prompt. After this package installs and you are back at the command prompt type: /sbin/lilo -v enter When you have returned again to the command prompt you could cd /the directory you saved the NVidia run file in; which I assume is why you want to do this from init 3. It won't work since the NVidia modules will only install into the running kernel. To use the new kernel you installed you'll have to reboot, this is almost the only package install that requires this. Simplest way to do this from where you are is to use Ctrl+D this will exit the super user mode (it's a shortcut to exit) and type reboot enter You'll see all the shutdown messages. After the system reboots and is running the new kernel you can then run the NVidia installer from the directory you saved it to. If my assumption is correct and that's why you wanted to do the install at a console. If you arrived at init 3 from the reboot because you have the system set not to start X automatically just type startx enter after you log-in. If you didn't you'll need to take another step or two. Let the list know, OK? Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk 10:05:21 up 5 days, 19:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.34 Well, I'm INVISIBLE AGAIN ... I might as well pay a visit to the LADIES ROOM ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/7G+kZqvqlrLPr5YRAlk1AJ9vjAMc7Zn/OjbeOtqdkuTtaYISDgCaA8PQ ADYSSJJOodF5jfbrQ9dJXYw= =9EiP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I don't know if this will help, I thought it might. I finished installing the kernel (kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and kernel-source (kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm) about an hour ago. I tried a different method then the one above and it worked fine. Installed the kernel and kernel-source by typing these commands in at the init 3, root command line. rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm After they installed. I went to the /etc (still root) folder by using the command: cd /etc Then ran the command: lilo -v It configured a part of the lilo config file. Rebooted and everything was fine, the kernel and kernel-source were installed. After the kernel and kernel-source were installed I installed the video driver. It built the customized kernel module, because the kernel and kernel-source were now installed. THe driver installed fine. Ran the config and the desktop loaded fine. From, Steven _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.6 kernel help
El Lunes, 22 de Diciembre de 2003 21:49, John Drouhard escribió: 6. cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.0 7. add lilo.conf entry: image=/boot/bzImage-2.6.0 label=linux2.6 root=/dev/hdc5 append=noapic acpi=off read-only 8. lilo 6,7 and 8 = make install CHAO -- Manolo Canga Mi Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mi web: http://bailandodesvan.webcindario.com Tu Fortuna: Big Brother is watching you ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new kernel and dvd drives. was: 9.2 and kernel sources...
Alle 23:09, sabato 8 novembre 2003, Piero Piutti ha scritto: Alle 17:20, sabato 8 novembre 2003, Derek Jennings ha scritto: I had the same issue. With that kernel some makes of DVD drive do not work with scsi emulation. Set it back to IDE and it should be OK mine is an Asus. still puzzled about how the new kernel fixed the LG issue but introduced this new one. I reverted to the stock 9.2 kernel (2.4.22-10mdk) and the DVD drive functions correctly again, so there is definitely something wrong with the 2.4.22-21mdk kernel not liking my Asus E612 dvd drive when it's scsi emulated. I would like to report this inconvenience to the people in charge so that this can be fixed in the next kernel update, but I'm unaware of the correct procedure. Any suggestion? Thanks for your patience. -- Piero Piutti Powered by Kmail 1.5.3 - KDE 3.1.3 - Mandrake Linux 9.2 To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] kernel panic
Alle 11:08, venerdì 7 novembre 2003, alfredo ha scritto: [cut] Ora vorrei ripristinare MDK, direte voi: ce l'hai il floppy di boot con l'immagine del kernel per il recupero? NO ma posso accedere ai file di MDK da una Suse Live che funziona alla grande, se si trattasse di ripristinare alcuni valori nei files che operano nella fase doi boot del SO. Ti basta il primo cd della mdk. Avvi in modalità rescoue, modifichi o ripristini le impostazioni di lilo (se è questo il problema). Puoi anche utilizzare un modo windowsiano, cioè fai una aggiornamento della mdk senza modificare niente. Alla fine ti ritrovi il s.o. funzionante come prima- Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux 2.40.21 on Pentium III 866 Mhz Linux User #203143 Linux Machine #103048
Re: [newbie] multimedia kernel
On Sunday October 19 2003 05:31 am, Anarky wrote: very soon now the 9.2 isos will be available for download for free I'll have a fresh new install ... my question is: I'm very tempted that from scratch I should start installing configuring on the multimedia kernell ... now thing is ... I'm wondering what kind of improovements I could be expecting .. and if they're worth the risk of using the non-standard kernel (risc in stability I mean). Will application startup be faster? Or anythign like that? Somehow when reading on it I got the impression that the differences were only going to be felt if you do a lot of sound something ... like playing games or something ... do you think it will improove my regular desktop interactivity startup times on stuff like Thunderbird, k3b, krusader ... ? I used several of the mm kernels. You won't see any difference unless you use your Linux box as a recording/editing sound studio. They do have the preempt and low latency patches, but then again so do all the other current desktop kernels. The curent tmb kernels contain some additional patches which may be useful 2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] multimedia kernel
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday October 19 2003 05:31 am, Anarky wrote: very soon now the 9.2 isos will be available for download for free I'll have a fresh new install ... my question is: I'm very tempted that from scratch I should start installing configuring on the multimedia kernell ... now thing is ... I'm wondering what kind of improovements I could be expecting .. and if they're worth the risk of using the non-standard kernel (risc in stability I mean). Will application startup be faster? Or anythign like that? Somehow when reading on it I got the impression that the differences were only going to be felt if you do a lot of sound something ... like playing games or something ... do you think it will improove my regular desktop interactivity startup times on stuff like Thunderbird, k3b, krusader ... ? I used several of the mm kernels. You won't see any difference unless you use your Linux box as a recording/editing sound studio. They do have the preempt and low latency patches, but then again so do all the other current desktop kernels. The curent tmb kernels contain some additional patches which may be useful 2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk so you're saying that I won't see any gains by using the multimedia kernel on the 9.2 cds than by using the normal kernel if I use my computer normally (not always sound ... even if maybe listening to mp3s) ? Only sound related stuff gets improoved?, not also user interactivity and more processor power going to the app that was just started? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
grande domanda... :-| --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sapete se esiste qualche tool che esamina l'hardware e genera automaticamente il file .config da usare per ricompilare il kernel? scusate se sono sfaticato :)) grazie gianluca __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 14:25, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto a newbie-it in merito a [newbie-it] kernel : sapete se esiste qualche tool che esamina l'hardware e genera automaticamente il file .config da usare per ricompilare il kernel? /dev/brain ;P grazie gianluca - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.22 @ ASUS S1N 1330c +- R.U.#219755 -+- S.R.U.#705 -+- R.M.#110932 -+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jIM8F/9fksDJ4y0RAkXgAKCOJAMXch+iGrM4DZJLMtN3xrrVoQCglsAj 76SIEqxUxgB7Aaq7tBEoan0= =R/CP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
Il mer, 2003-10-15 alle 01:14, miKe ha scritto: /dev/brain Io per comodità a volte uso il link simbolico /dev/comodino dove oltre al cervello lascio anche molte altre cose... :-D -- Corrado
Re: [newbie] compile kernel
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 4:35 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Welcome to the list David. Can't help on the kernel compile, but here's a friendly link to Mandrake Mailing List Etiquette. You (unknowingly) hijacked this thread, so check out the hijacking section in: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquet te There's lots of other great info there, too. An easier to remember link is: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org takes you to the home page. You will need to delete WebHome and replace it with MandrakeMailingListEtiquette when you get there, or use the full link above. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 08:31, Charlie M. wrote: [...snip] Lot's of ways Bill. But: 1.) Just Ctrl+Alt+F1 and look at the kernel version there; very funny. I tried it, thinking I'd see some kind of help file or info, but it immediately went to a black screen with just a couple of lines of text at the top. This wasn't just a text window, it was the full screen. How was I supposed to get back to where I was? Quit, exit, q, CTRL-C etc, nothing seemed to work. ALT-TAB didn't work, it only put some ] and ^ symbols on the line. And then the CTRL-ALT-DEL [I thought it would bring up a log in screen, like before] rebooted the computer without any warning or any chance to stop it. So I lost an 8M download, which [of course] was about 90% done... -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 16, 2003 01:13 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 08:31, Charlie M. wrote: [...snip] Lot's of ways Bill. But: 1.) Just Ctrl+Alt+F1 and look at the kernel version there; very funny. I tried it, thinking I'd see some kind of help file or info, but it immediately went to a black screen with just a couple of lines of text at the top. This wasn't just a text window, it was the full screen. How was I supposed to get back to where I was? Quit, exit, q, CTRL-C etc, nothing seemed to work. ALT-TAB didn't work, it only put some ] and ^ symbols on the line. And then the CTRL-ALT-DEL [I thought it would bring up a log in screen, like before] rebooted the computer without any warning or any chance to stop it. So I lost an 8M download, which [of course] was about 90% done... -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. It wasn't intended to be funny, nor was it intended to make your life miserable. You have my sincere apology. I should have said Ctrl+Alt+F(1-6) but most people would have used F1 anyway. Those couple of lines of text on a totally black screen are what was important. I should also have mentioned that you return to your desktop by Ctrl+Alt+F7. Those lines of text; on mine this is what shows up there: Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586 Kernel 2.4.22-9mdk on an i686 h24-66-233-146 login: (flashing cursor, in other words a command *prompt*) Which illustrates that the requested information was there. Sorry for your inconvenience. I'll be sure I don't cause you any more trouble. By not answering any more questions. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-9mdk 14:29:45 up 1 day, 1:55, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.22, 0.25 1.79 x 10^12 furlongs per fortnight -- it's not just a good idea, it's the law! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE/Z3WhG11CaRuZZSIRAqZ8AJdJpZg05zeVpuECa4Rqb9n36YeuAJ4zt4N5 9JezGLdEnSvWLQHwAqPpbA== =X8MD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 21:13, Merlin Zener wrote: How was I supposed to get back to where I was? Quit, exit, q, CTRL-C etc, nothing seemed to work. ALT-TAB didn't work, it only put some ] and ^ symbols on the line. And then the CTRL-ALT-DEL [I thought it would bring up a log in screen, like before] rebooted the computer without any warning or any chance to stop it. So I lost an 8M download, which [of course] was about 90% done... Due to too much M$windows usance. Admittedly nobody told you, you could get back to the GUI (Graphical User Interface) with CTRL-ALT-F7, but then: If you are on new turf (which you aparently are) tread warily and look before you leap! Certainly do NOT rely on For what it's worth: In DOS mode your M$ run-PC would have rebooted without warning too, normal procedure. Don't blame helpfull souls for your own ignorance! We do our best anyway:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:42, Charlie M. wrote: careful snipping of all context... By not answering any more questions. Regards; Charlie Does that mean Stephen and I and Joehill will get to answer some Questionsjust kidding in all cereal-ness, don't ever let one persons reply get to you,,, if they don't appreciate the help you give,,, it's (in this case, my bet) they already read a bunch of [any of the three mentioned above]'s replies. or they just were not worth the effort in the first place. In this instance,,, I think no real harm done... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 23:55, ed tharp wrote: I think no real harm done... Huhh, me? I don't know anything(g) Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 04:55, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:42, Charlie M. wrote: careful snipping of all context... By not answering any more questions. oh dear... It was meant to be funny. Sorry: I thought it was obvious, even though I didn't plaster smileys all over it. My impression was, this list is well acquainted with the Australian style of self-deprecating humor: some misfortune befalls you, and you don't bottle it up and turn into a miserable git, you tell your mates, everyone has a laugh, you learn something and move on. Oh well. Clearly, the fact that I'm typing this means it wasn't taken in the spirit it was meant. [If you have to explain the joke, then it isn't one...] Sorry, once again. [...snip]. In this instance,,, I think no real harm done... I hope so :) -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 18:19, Merlin Zener wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 04:55, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:42, Charlie M. wrote: careful snipping of all context... By not answering any more questions. oh dear... It was meant to be funny. Sorry: I thought it was obvious, even though I didn't plaster smileys all over it. My impression was, this list is well acquainted with the Australian style of self-deprecating humor: some misfortune befalls you, and you don't bottle it up and turn into a miserable git, you tell your mates, everyone has a laugh, you learn something and move on. Oh well. Clearly, the fact that I'm typing this means it wasn't taken in the spirit it was meant. [If you have to explain the joke, then it isn't one...] ahhh not really,, I am excedingly dense, and I do sincerly apperciate anyone explaining the joke out to me,, after reading the reply's I think that I may well be the only one that did not get the joke right off,,, including Charlie... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 16, 2003 03:55 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 16:42, Charlie M. wrote: careful snipping of all context... By not answering any more questions. Regards; Charlie Does that mean Stephen and I and Joehill will get to answer some Questionsjust kidding Sure why not. I do need to sleep occasionally. ;-) in all cereal-ness, don't ever let one persons reply get to you,,, if they don't appreciate the help you give,,, it's (in this case, my bet) they already read a bunch of [any of the three mentioned above]'s replies. or they just were not worth the effort in the first place. In this instance,,, I think no real harm done... That was a specific reply to a specific whining you broke it so it actually means he's on his own. Thanks ET. You (and lots of others here) are a keeper. g Peace; c. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-9mdk 17:23:28 up 1 day, 4:49, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.16, 0.23 Last night I dreamed I ate a ten-pound marshmallow, and when I woke up the pillow was gone. -- Tommy Cooper -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Z5vwG11CaRuZZSIRAlHlAJ9Oh0qXkXOG5vfthXWUbm5nVAoCqACgjpsE klrO1DofZCmvsvwDZ9CqbZE= =XkqT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 12:07 am, Bill W. wrote: Hi All, How can I find the exact kernel version that I'm running? . I need it for the ltmodem driver. They are very fussy for exact kernel version. On the Mandrake site it says that 9.1 uses 2.4.21 but when I went to the ltmodem site, I found that there are drivers for 2.4.21_0.11 all the way up to 2.4.21_0.25. I seem to remember a vague cat command but I can't quite get it. Thanks and regards, Bill W. Would that be cat /proc/version? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 19:17, Richard Urwin wrote: On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 12:07 am, Bill W. wrote: Hi All, How can I find the exact kernel version that I'm running? . I need it for the ltmodem driver. They are very fussy for exact kernel version. On the Mandrake site it says that 9.1 uses 2.4.21 but when I went to the ltmodem site, I found that there are drivers for 2.4.21_0.11 all the way up to 2.4.21_0.25. I seem to remember a vague cat command but I can't quite get it. Thanks and regards, Bill W. Would that be cat /proc/version? or uname -a? -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:07:24 -0700 Bill W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, How can I find the exact kernel version that I'm running? . I need it for the ltmodem driver. They are very fussy for exact kernel version. On the Mandrake site it says that 9.1 uses 2.4.21 but when I went to the ltmodem site, I found that there are drivers for 2.4.21_0.11 all the way up to 2.4.21_0.25. I seem to remember a vague cat command but I can't quite get it. Thanks and regards, Bill W. Try uname -r or uname --help for all options Regards, Dan Gordon -- Mon Sep 15 19:31:14 EDT 2003 19:31:14 up 20:39, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.04, 0.06 %DCL-MEM-BAD, bad memory VMS-F-PDGERS, pudding between the ears Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
Hi, Uname -r gave me the exact kernel version. Once again, thanks everyone! Regards, Bill W. - Original Message - From: Dan Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] which kernel version On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 16:07:24 -0700 Bill W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, How can I find the exact kernel version that I'm running? . I need it for the ltmodem driver. They are very fussy for exact kernel version. On the Mandrake site it says that 9.1 uses 2.4.21 but when I went to the ltmodem site, I found that there are drivers for 2.4.21_0.11 all the way up to 2.4.21_0.25. I seem to remember a vague cat command but I can't quite get it. Thanks and regards, Bill W. Try uname -r or uname --help for all options Regards, Dan Gordon -- Mon Sep 15 19:31:14 EDT 2003 19:31:14 up 20:39, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.04, 0.06 %DCL-MEM-BAD, bad memory VMS-F-PDGERS, pudding between the ears Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] which kernel version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 15, 2003 05:07 pm, Bill W. wrote: Hi All, How can I find the exact kernel version that I'm running? . I need it for the ltmodem driver. They are very fussy for exact kernel version. On the Mandrake site it says that 9.1 uses 2.4.21 but when I went to the ltmodem site, I found that there are drivers for 2.4.21_0.11 all the way up to 2.4.21_0.25. I seem to remember a vague cat command but I can't quite get it. Thanks and regards, Bill W. Lot's of ways Bill. But: 1.) Just Ctrl+Alt+F1 and look at the kernel version there; 2.) open a terminal and type: uname -r enter for just the kernel version, or: uname -a enter if you want too much information. There are more ways, but these have the benefit of being the simplest and easiest to remember. In case you didn't notice I'm lazy. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-9mdk 19:25:48 up 6:51, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.18, 0.30 Given my druthers, I'd druther not. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ZmfmG11CaRuZZSIRArCpAJ9EVgf5+Hv4uIREY8MHwkw2v+so2QCgg4mS uAnfVDmidAEX9xVtI2QqXB4= =Jq3p -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.6 kernel
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:28:00 -0500 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I get ALSA to work with the new 2.6 kernel. Or any sound at all would be okay. When I first fired up the new kernel it had some sound errors. I cant remember any of the others, but there were some. I hope to completely migrate over to it if I can get everything to run nicely. I use Cooker (newest as of last night). Thanks John Drouhard John, did you install the new programs required to load the failed attempt of 2.6, or just blindly descide to download, compile and run it? I believe this would be modutils, however the newer version cannot load old versions (2.4 etc) and actually has problems loading the 2.6 too. But then again, I guess you just blindly descided upon this. What are you trying to achieve by running an unstable, incomplete and a very badly talked-about kernel version? Just know what you are getting yourself into before doing it, as you are more likely to run home crying that to get everything working the way you want ;-) Many things do not work in the 2.6, and also many things work differently in this release. It is not a matter of updating and running, but I guess you knew this before hand ;-) Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] 2.6 kernel
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:43:27 +0200 Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 13:28:00 -0500 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I get ALSA to work with the new 2.6 kernel. Or any sound at all would be okay. When I first fired up the new kernel it had some sound errors. I cant remember any of the others, but there were some. I hope to completely migrate over to it if I can get everything to run nicely. I use Cooker (newest as of last night). Thanks John Drouhard John, did you install the new programs required to load the failed attempt of 2.6, or just blindly descide to download, compile and run it? I believe this would be modutils, however the newer version cannot load old versions (2.4 etc) and actually has problems loading the 2.6 too. But then again, I guess you just blindly descided upon this. What are you trying to achieve by running an unstable, incomplete and a very badly talked-about kernel version? Just know what you are getting yourself into before doing it, as you are more likely to run home crying that to get everything working the way you want ;-) Many things do not work in the 2.6, and also many things work differently in this release. It is not a matter of updating and running, but I guess you knew this before hand ;-) Well, I am running cooker, and I just merely installed the kernel from the mandrake rpm on the contrib source. I guess I wanted to try it because it is supposed to be faster in loading applications such as mozilla. I guess I'll just have to wait until everything has moved to the 2.6 kernel permanently. Thanks anyway. John Drouhard -- Sun Sep 14 15:48:07 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.6 kernel
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 15:49:55 -0500 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am running cooker, and I just merely installed the kernel from the mandrake rpm on the contrib source. I guess I wanted to try it because it is supposed to be faster in loading applications such as mozilla. I guess I'll just have to wait until everything has moved to the 2.6 kernel permanently. Hmm, I wouldn't go as far as saying that just because you have the latest kernel your apps run faster. It's all about your architecture on your computer, and whether you specified your processor specs in your gcc when both the kernel, libs, and all that goes with Mozilla was compiled. It's not justa matter of upgrading a kernel and noticing a difference. If you are really into performance, and you know what options to use / not to use in gcc, then I suggest Gentoo, this way you can build a whole OS and programs specific to your hardware, which will obviously be faster than per-compiled binaries for an average system. anti-flame Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that Mandrake is slow (or I wouldn't be using it either), but that if it's speed you want, then consider your other options. emergency-anti-flame I know there was an article a while back on slashdot supposedly proving that Gentoo isn't faster, but this has been argued till the point where the facts remain that the tests were not run in a fair environment, the systems were not running the same versions of the software tested, and that even the gcc versions used to compile the binaries was different, umong many other points which definitly makea difference. /emergency-anti-flame /anti-flame As for your idea of waiting until 2.6 gets used as standard, well I would not hold your breath John. The 2.6 kernel had had a total makeover, different techniques of modules loading / creation / running. It is still way too unstable to consider running a stable system on. It's more for the wanna-be geeks who want to run the latest of the latest, and yes Isay wanna-be because a so-called real geek would compile it himself, LOL, and deinitely not run a pre-compiled beta of the heart of his system ;-) It does supprise me though that Mandrake is including it in at least the betas of the new release. I'm curios to know they intentions for this. Thanks anyway. Sure, no problem. Btw, if my last post seemed aggressive, it was, but not at you .. just had an irritating day of spam, spam, and more spam, umong a shitty internet connection and so on ;-) .. my appologies for this if I offended you. Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Iptables kernel question
you've to check a file called .config, containing options with which the kernel is compiled with. IIRC, it can be found in /usr/src/linux if you installed the kernel sources rpm. as a side note, i recall reading somewhere that future kernels will have the compilation options included WITHIN the kernel, but at that time, it wasn't included in the stable kernels yet. maybe you can check with the kernel mailing lists, or google for it. - Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:40 Subject: [newbie] Iptables kernel question Hello, I've been snooping around and found that iptables can reference the command that is requesting access, but only if this capability was available when the kernel was compiled. Is there a way to determine if the 9.1 kernel was compiled with this capability? -- Thanks, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updated kernel
whatever it is, try not to reboot until you sort this out. (although since the two kernels are very similar, your system MAY survive a reboot) it appears that you have one or more entries in /etc/lilo.conf where the linux kernel (vmlinuz) isn't match properly to the initial ramdisk (initrd.img) IMHO, you can 1. try to troubleshoot the issue yourself, in which case it may help to read http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php specifically the section on Black Magic: Kernel Updates 2. post your lilo.conf and contents of /boot (use ls -l instead of just ls) here. 3. try to clobber over everything by reinstalling your kernels, clearing out your lilo.conf (remember to back up) using the --force if necessary rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk followed by rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk it *SHOULD* work, assuming your system hasn't been drastically modified but at the very least, have a working boot disk ready - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 06:23 Subject: [newbie] Updated kernel What does this mean, and how do I fix it? Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# urpmi kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i586/../../updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ## 1:kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ## mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) look like there was a problem, the default vmlinuz version is not the same of the initrd which mean you have a mdk kernel and not a mdk initrd you may go in trouble not adding entry, 2421-18 already exists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 18:53, piter wrote: ciao ML, dopo essere riuscito a sostuire il vecchio kernel con il nuovo, mi è passato sotto il naso questo articolo: http://www.pcimprover.it/misc/vedidahome.asp?aid=104 solo che son bloccato subito all'inizio perchè quando dò il comando make xconfig oppure make menuconfig la risposta è questa: *make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop.* ho provato anche con #linuxconf ma mi da questo messaggio: Error message from remadmin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Error message from remadmin :Xlib: No protocol specified Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin : Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 sembra un problema di librerie di x (lo dico nella mia estrema ignoranza) io per non saper ne leggere ne scrivere controllerei tra il softw installabile se ci sono xlib o pacetti dev-gtk e li installerei in massaal limite puoi sempre disinstallare grazie. ciao. keph. -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ Legge Malek: Ogni idea semplice sara' espressa nella maniera piu' complicata. Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 18:53, mercoledì 18 giugno 2003, in merito a [newbie-it] kernel, piter ha scritto: solo che son bloccato subito all'inizio perchè quando dò il comando make xconfig oppure make menuconfig la risposta è questa: *make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop.* hai installato i sorgenti del kernal, vero ? ;P ho provato anche con #linuxconf ma mi da questo messaggio: : Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 sei in console da root in una sessione dell'utente? root non può accedere al display usato da X per l'utente grazie. ciao. keph. - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.21 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+8iZSF/9fksDJ4y0RAn0lAJwN0ClSHMLTPT7S6PAGIRVkmYPUsACfXRpM bsgfWcMmsXiwMGnGJfaeRQo= =9Hsh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Kernel panic...
reinstalla. fai prima. ciao. mailing - effem wrote: omissis
Re: [newbie-it] Kernel panic...
Il Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:33:43 +0200, paolo brusasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: reinstalla. fai prima. ciao. mailing - effem wrote: omissis putroppo, è quello che ho fatto... ...quando si è alle prime armi...e sopratutto non si ha nulla da perdere :-) grazie cmq a tutti voi ciao francesco
Re: [newbie-it] Kernel panic...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 14:05, mercoledì 4 giugno 2003, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] Kernel panic..., mailing - effem ha scritto: a questo punto sono riuscito a vedere la mia cartella etc...ma di file chiamati inittabnemmeno l'ombra... non è un buon segno... A questo punto sono tornato in consolesono andato via una mezzoretta...sono tornato ed il computer non rispondeva più... è comparsa una scritta del tipo: INIT: Non so proprio cosa sia successo... Di sicuro non ho cancellato file... nessuno ha avuto accesso al pc? un file non si cancella da solo... Ciao Francesco - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+37aVF/9fksDJ4y0RAgIgAKC4PbUbRDHw1WvReR6nC2IYpHg5BgCeKA5b /yOZ789mwOfPbILHCEhFA2Q= =2ow8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Kernel panic...
Il Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:51:44 +0200, miKe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 07:11, martedì 3 giugno 2003, in merito a [newbie-it] Kernel panic..., mailing - effem ha scritto: Aiuto!! Da come si capisce...con Linux...sono proprio alle prime armi! Ieri sono riuscito pure a bloccarlo...e non mi chiedete come...! Oggi...accendo...boot...e mia sorpresa: Kernel Panic: no init found. Try passing init= option to kernel! E tutto si blocca... E' morto??? E' recuparbile...o lo stiamo perdendo Grazie a chi potrà darmi qualche dritta su come rimetterlo in strada... cosa hai fatto prima di spegnerlo? hai giocato con lilo/grub ? hai spostato qualcosa ? hai usato partition magic da win$ ?? kernel panic indica : - -problemi hardware (lo escluderei) - -mancanza di qualche file - -manomissioni in lilo.conf o inittab - -movimenti nella tavola delle partizioni - -mancanza di ramdisk - -kernel ricompilato male - -ecc.. Buona giornata a tutti Francesco - -- bye miKe grazie a tutti per il vostro interesse: ho provato a controllare quello che mi ha detto giuseppe... Ho fatto così... 1. prima ho scoperto che stavo guardando con rescue il suo inittab...e non quello del mio disco fisso. Allora mi sono montato i miei dischi in mnt (come dice l'opzione di menu di rescue) a questo punto sono riuscito a vedere la mia cartella etc...ma di file chiamati inittabnemmeno l'ombra... Per Mike...cosa ho fatto?? Ti racconto in poche parole il mio pomeriggio su linux... 1. ho installato apache, mysql, e php 2. ho provato ad installare delle altre librerie per riuscire a montatore sylpheedma non ci sono riuscito A questo punto sono tornato in consolesono andato via una mezzoretta...sono tornato ed il computer non rispondeva più... è comparsa una scritta del tipo: INIT: Non so proprio cosa sia successo... Di sicuro non ho cancellato file... Ciao Francesco