Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse10.3beta2 can not support dmraid

2007-09-04 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 01:55:22PM +0800, Pang Dawei wrote:

 I installed opensuse10.3beta2 to a dmraid (raid1)function machine,
 At the end of installation, the yast can not create initrd and
 install bootloader.
 Because the creating initrd missed 70-kpartx.rule  file, the
 mkinitrd is failed.
 Can we fix the bug in the beta3?

It has been addressed already. Ths fix will be in Beta3.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Can't add Full-Qualified-Hostname to hosts file using yast2

2007-09-04 Thread Katarina Machalkova
Hi James,

 In the /etc/hosts file on opensuse 10.2, I have the
 Full-Qualified-Hostname on my machine in like this:
 # IP-Address  Full-Qualified-Hostname  Short-Hostname
 127.0.0.2  my_hostname.my_dns  my_hostname

 This was not the case with 10.3 after I installed it - so I tried to add it
 (for reasons I won't go into here).

 I can add a  Full-Qualified-Hostname (in the form of the line above)
 manually via the command line but I can't using yast2 by running  DNS and
 Hostname with the Change Hostname via DHCP and Write to Hostname to
 /etc/hosts options selected.

Please file a bug and assign it to me. As there is a new feature in 10.3 
(Enable defining different hostname for each static IP address), the way 
how hostnames are written to /etc/hosts has been changed. It seems that I've 
moved around more code than it was necessary :(
Cheers

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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Monday 03 September 2007 13:06, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
  And for instance:
  301716Cri P5 open NEW Pidgin segfaults when sending
  AIM message to yourself.
 
  Taking the type of application is it really critical?
  Is that mean that critical is used for any crash?

 Funny, indeed.

 The reporter is Bryan Perry @ Novell, so it is probably considered
 important.

 It might be the company policy to set critical if application crashes, I have 
 seen such comment in one of bugs that you can find on the list. If you look 
 the list than you can see few similar reports. Later I'm going to see more, 
 but if there are many of the above kind GNOME is safe :-)

I'm not aware of something - let's downgrade this bug,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Frequent rpmdb crashes in opensuse 10.3 beta 2

2007-09-04 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:45:30PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
 The last days I got more than 5 crashes with the rpmdb, and must
 rebuild it with rpm --rebuilddb, and in one case, after rebuilding,
 in the first case I woluld to install a rpm package.
 The last case was installing a package compiled in the system and
 created by checkinstall:
 
 rpmdb: PANIC: Argumento inválido
 rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
 [...]

Hmm, a problem with your memory chips? Please run memtest.

Cheers,
  Michael.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Default package request

2007-09-04 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 schrieb Alex Lau:
 Dear all

 Is that possible to install pin by default?

 So we can create the next great thing call pin-install ... meaning base
 on the pin info after locating the package which is missing and trigger
 the install ?

I don't understand. Where would that pin-install be?

Greetings, Stephan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Device already mounted or mountpoint busy error after some beta2 update, I guess

2007-09-04 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Montag, 3. September 2007 Rajko M.:
 On Sunday 02 September 2007 16:15, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:

  But my initial posting was about an internal device
  disappearing from the usual mount infrastructure.

 It is solved.

I still don't know why the internal device got grabbed by device-mapper. I 
suspect not having it in fstab (which was on purpose) led to it. Although I 
never conciously configured or invoked dm-mechanisms.

 Have fun!

I'm having more fun than I expected really :}
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[opensuse-factory] Re: BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE

2007-09-04 Thread Philipp Thomas
 BulletProofX can really enlarge our user base to lots of new Windows
 users alike.

 It is very important to test this technology, and later integrate into our OS.

You haven't read Benji's mail, have you? I'll quote to make it easier for
you:

 Ubuntu's bulletproofX is mostly hype as they're just utilising an
 existing functionality of GDM, but it would be nice to have the same
 functionality.

So in order to test and integrate, you'd first have to implement the same
functionality in a way suitable for openSUSE. Volunteers anyone?

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Ekker

On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 17:52 +0200, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high
 number of blockers and critical bugs.
 As it can be seen here:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=componentz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=long_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=classification=openSUSEproduct=openSUSE+10.3bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_severity=Blockerbug_severity=Criticalemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=format=tableaction=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=
 
 GNOME + Evolution has 26 of them. 
 Plus, from bugzilla it appears that GNOME + GNOME Admin/Platform +
 Evolution have 201 bugs:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=componentz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=long_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=classification=openSUSEproduct=openSUSE+10.3bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_severity=Blockerbug_severity=Criticalbug_severity=Majorbug_severity=Normalbug_severity=Minoremailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=format=tableaction=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=
 
 Considering the short time before the final release (~1 month), I think
 it would be helpful to know the actual situation of the fixes, and if
 there's enough time to solve all these issues before the release date.

Yes we still have time to resolve the critical and blocker bugs, as well
as many of the majors.

-Gary

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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Ekker

On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 22:02 +0100, Francis Giannaros wrote:
 On 9/2/07, Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-02 17:52]:
   during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high
   number of blockers and critical bugs.
 
  GNOME will be updated before release.
 
 Perhaps you could clarify what this means? Is it hoped that the
 updates and final release will solve all the 200+ bugs? The only
 reason I ask about this is because I notice around the place the
 general sense from some users of neglect for GNOME in openSUSE, which
 I know is certainly as a statement unfair; but I can see why some of
 them might question things when you take a look at comparative figures
 like this (GNOME 200+ with a lot of blockers, KDE just 64, and dealing
 with a web browser).

There are only 12 GNOME bugs of severity critical and blocker. I'm
confident that we can resolve those before the release of 10.3.

 
 It would be a real shame to have GNOME slip behind as it did in 10.2
 which I think everyone will agree was not ideal.

None of us want that and we are working hard to ensure that it doesn't
happen with 10.3.

-Gary

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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Ekker

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 10:52 +0200, Richard Guenther wrote:
 On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Francis Giannaros wrote:
 
  On 9/2/07, Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   * Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-02 17:52]:
during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high
number of blockers and critical bugs.
  
   GNOME will be updated before release.
  
  Perhaps you could clarify what this means? Is it hoped that the
  updates and final release will solve all the 200+ bugs? The only
  reason I ask about this is because I notice around the place the
  general sense from some users of neglect for GNOME in openSUSE, which
  I know is certainly as a statement unfair; but I can see why some of
  them might question things when you take a look at comparative figures
  like this (GNOME 200+ with a lot of blockers, KDE just 64, and dealing
  with a web browser).
  
  It would be a real shame to have GNOME slip behind as it did in 10.2
  which I think everyone will agree was not ideal.
 
 I suppose for the quality of GNOME it would be more helpful if people
 would report issues upstream.  At least if the perception is correct
 that bugs in openSUSE GNOME are only fixed by pulling new releases
 from upstream.

That perception is not accurate. Although we are tracking some of these
bugs upstream and taking the fixes from the upstream release as they
become available.

-Gary

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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Ekker

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 11:47 +0200, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
  I suppose for the quality of GNOME it would be more helpful if people
  would report issues upstream.  At least if the perception is correct
  that bugs in openSUSE GNOME are only fixed by pulling new releases
  from upstream.
 
 That's ok, but it should have been clarified at the beginning of the
 development stage, I think. Now, 17 days before the release, it is
 probably too late to get them fixed for 2.20, which will be included in
 openSUSE 10.3.
 
 Moreover, on what basis should we distinguish between GNOME bugs to
 report upstream, and GNOME bugs to report on bugzilla?

The best thing to do is to report it here so that we are aware of the
bug.

-Gary

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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread JP Rosevear

On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 17:52 +0200, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high
 number of blockers and critical bugs.
 As it can be seen here:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=componentz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=long_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=classification=openSUSEproduct=openSUSE+10.3bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_severity=Blockerbug_severity=Criticalemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=format=tableaction=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=
 
 GNOME + Evolution has 26 of them. 
 Plus, from bugzilla it appears that GNOME + GNOME Admin/Platform +
 Evolution have 201 bugs:
 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=componentz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=long_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=classification=openSUSEproduct=openSUSE+10.3bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_severity=Blockerbug_severity=Criticalbug_severity=Majorbug_severity=Normalbug_severity=Minoremailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=format=tableaction=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=
 
 Considering the short time before the final release (~1 month), I think
 it would be helpful to know the actual situation of the fixes, and if
 there's enough time to solve all these issues before the release date.


I'll answer the original mail, but I'll collect thoughts related to
other replies here too.  For the GNOME bugs in particular at least there
are several issues causing the count to be high and not well maintained:

1) We (as the GNOME maintainers) have not been good at redirecting bugs
upstream.  We do have the keyword should_go_upstream in use which
indicates what we want to upstream it and resolve it in the opensuse
bugzilla, but we've been slow to do this though and its something we've
not publicized and that was probably wrong.

2) We have not been good at grading bug severity, generally severity has
been left at whatever the filer put it, although Blocker/Critical/Major
have undergone more scrutiny in 10.3 at least.

Further complicating this is that we (as a project) do not define
severity well for instance from what I could find:
http://en.opensuse.org/Bug_Reporting_FAQ
http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports

Only one mentions severity but its a brief reference to blocker.  The
ones on the Novell bugzilla are also weak:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity

3) We (as the GNOME maintainers who work for Novell) have traditionally
not focused on openSUSE much, rather spending most of our time on SLED.
This improved for 10.3 and well continue to improve, but we lagged a
little more than we thought due to SP1 of SLED 10.

4) As some one else mentioned, you almost never close out all the bugs
for release

Now, not one to simply list problems with out a solution, here on some
positives:

1) I've been monitoring the count, its been trending down over the last
three weeks (including major and above)

2) There are a number of easy packaging related things
(bnc-team-gnome-build) we can pick off before 10.3

3) Mark Gordon a Novell QA person has been able to spend a lot more time
triaging and moving bugs upstream over the last several weeks

4) Of the criticals, only 3 have not been active (generally activity
means they are getting attention on the way to a fix) in the last week
and they are:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299331
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299005

Both being worked on by hpj as part of a larger set of help fixes
(rarian integration), its just a big mess atm because we have to tie
this help system into the suse help system which is based on how kde
discovers help files and our older patches broke big time.  We should
look at the for 10.4

Thats good and all , but it doesn't go all the way of course - 
Gary Ekker has been getting some better bug criteria created for
understanding when we should upstream, wontfix, invalid, etc.  Its for
both SLED and openSUSE, we did a test run last week and it worked
reasonably well.  I think Gary would like to publish these soon for
GNOME at least, just a bit of hesitation to push them out at this point
in the release cycle.  

Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Druid

 3) We (as the GNOME maintainers who work for Novell) have traditionally
 not focused on openSUSE much, rather spending most of our time on SLED.
 This improved for 10.3 and well continue to improve, but we lagged a
 little more than we thought due to SP1 of SLED 10.


Seems one of those very traditional traditions that goes through
centuries and more centuries, and generations and more generations.

As far as I know, KDE is included in SLED too. How come KDE doesnt
have those problems of too much focus in SLED? What can we expect of
that? That the gnome in opensuse is barely maintained? Or does that
mean that the KDE guys doesnt put much effort in SLED?

thanks

Marcio Ferreira
---
Druid


 4) As some one else mentioned, you almost never close out all the bugs
 for release

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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 3) We (as the GNOME maintainers who work for Novell) have traditionally
 not focused on openSUSE much, rather spending most of our time on SLED.
 This improved for 10.3 and well continue to improve, but we lagged a
 little more than we thought due to SP1 of SLED 10.


 Seems one of those very traditional traditions that goes through
 centuries and more centuries, and generations and more generations.

 As far as I know, KDE is included in SLED too. How come KDE doesnt
 have those problems of too much focus in SLED? What can we expect of
 that? That the gnome in opensuse is barely maintained? Or does that
 mean that the KDE guys doesnt put much effort in SLED?

It's not as easy as you're thinking.

The KDE guys had some advantage with no major release for quite some
time.  Stabilizing KDE 3.5.x is much less work than stabilizing a major
release like KDE 4 - or GNOME 2.20.

So, there have been quite synergies between openSUSE and SLED on the KDE
side - something we could not benefit from with GNOME.  And that means
we have to do more work with GNOME and then you might focus...

I'm glad that the GNOME maintainers have already improve much working on
openSUSE,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME

2007-09-04 Thread JP Rosevear

On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 15:37 -0300, Druid wrote:
 
  3) We (as the GNOME maintainers who work for Novell) have traditionally
  not focused on openSUSE much, rather spending most of our time on SLED.
  This improved for 10.3 and well continue to improve, but we lagged a
  little more than we thought due to SP1 of SLED 10.
 
 
 Seems one of those very traditional traditions that goes through
 centuries and more centuries, and generations and more generations.
 
 As far as I know, KDE is included in SLED too. How come KDE doesnt
 have those problems of too much focus in SLED? What can we expect of
 that? That the gnome in opensuse is barely maintained? Or does that
 mean that the KDE guys doesnt put much effort in SLED?

I think its fair to say that in the past its been paid less attention
than the GNOME in SLED, although I would rate it as higher than barely
maintained.  But things like features, polish, maintenance updates, etc
have been targeted at SLED not openSUSE for development cycles.

All I can say is: if you're a KDE user on openSUSE doesn't affect you
much :-).

If you're a GNOME use drop by our list or irc channel and help keep us
on track just like Alberto did by sending the original mail :-).


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Device already mounted or mountpoint busy error after some beta2 update, I guess

2007-09-04 Thread Wolfgang Woehl
Dienstag, 4. September 2007 Wolfgang Woehl:
 Montag, 3. September 2007 Rajko M.:
  On Sunday 02 September 2007 16:15, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
   But my initial posting was about an internal device
   disappearing from the usual mount infrastructure.
 
  It is solved.

 I still don't know why the internal device got grabbed by device-mapper. I
 suspect not having it in fstab (which was on purpose) led to it. Although I
 never conciously configured or invoked dm-mechanisms.

Plus, I realize this just now, plugging in a usb mass-storage device makes kde 
pop up open in window? which it tries but fails to show the content of 
because device-mapper grabbed it. Is this the default behaviour? It can't be.

Wolfgang
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[opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 36

2007-09-04 Thread Christoph Thiel
Preface: ... a bit late and short due to Beta3 preparations, but still on
time (it's still Tuesday ;))

status report: openSUSE distribution, week 36
---

- 10.3 Beta3: first internal test build from today looks promising. Will
  hopefully only need minor tweaks tomorrow. Public release is scheduled for
  Thursday (2007-09-06).
- autobuild status: 8 failing packages on i386, 7 on x86_64, 25 on ppc.
- bug count down from last week: 14 blockers, 90 critical.
  * bug review pending after Beta3 is out
  * if there is anything critical that needs attention, make sure to set
NEEDINFO to cthiel or coolo, to get it onto our radar.
- the team made very good progress on libzypp / package management last
  week!
- bundle-lang situation improved -- not completly solved for Beta3 (check
  out #302270 for details)
- current focus for Beta3:
  * bundle-lang and friends
  * patterns / media layout
  * LiveCD
  * libzypp


Is there anything missing? Please let us know, if we are ignoring any hot
spots?


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Frequent rpmdb crashes in opensuse 10.3 beta 2

2007-09-04 Thread Juan Erbes
2007/9/4, Michael Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:45:30PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
  The last days I got more than 5 crashes with the rpmdb, and must
  rebuild it with rpm --rebuilddb, and in one case, after rebuilding,
  in the first case I woluld to install a rpm package.
  The last case was installing a package compiled in the system and
  created by checkinstall:
 
  rpmdb: PANIC: Argumento inválido
  rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
  [...]

 Hmm, a problem with your memory chips? Please run memtest.


How long time I must run memtest?
I runed it for many minutes, and not appear any memory error.
I changed the voltage from the memorys from 1.9 to 2.1 volts as
recomended by OCZ:
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_reaper_hpc_edition
(This is the exact model of the memorys)
Yesterday I rebuilded the rpmdb, and now after adjusting the memorys
voltage, the problem continues.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Frequent rpmdb crashes in opensuse 10.3 beta 2

2007-09-04 Thread Juan Erbes
2007/9/4, Michael Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:45:30PM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
  The last days I got more than 5 crashes with the rpmdb, and must
  rebuild it with rpm --rebuilddb, and in one case, after rebuilding,
  in the first case I woluld to install a rpm package.
  The last case was installing a package compiled in the system and
  created by checkinstall:
 
  rpmdb: PANIC: Argumento inválido
  rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
  [...]

 Hmm, a problem with your memory chips? Please run memtest.


I runned for new memtest for about 33 minutes, after changing the
memorys voltage (rpmdb crashes again), and not appear any memory
error.
 I tested the 2 cores of the cpu in windows with orthos
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=200
and not apear any cpu error

About the memory bandwith with my Athlon64 X2 5200, they are:
L1 cache 128 21416 MB/s
L2 cache 1024 K  5321 MB/s   (1024 K per core)
Memory  2047 M 2916 MB/s

Those values are right?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 36

2007-09-04 Thread Juan Erbes
2007/9/4, Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Preface: ... a bit late and short due to Beta3 preparations, but still on
 time (it's still Tuesday ;))

 status report: openSUSE distribution, week 36
 ---

 - 10.3 Beta3: first internal test build from today looks promising. Will
   hopefully only need minor tweaks tomorrow. Public release is scheduled for
   Thursday (2007-09-06).
 - autobuild status: 8 failing packages on i386, 7 on x86_64, 25 on ppc.
 - bug count down from last week: 14 blockers, 90 critical.
   * bug review pending after Beta3 is out
   * if there is anything critical that needs attention, make sure to set
 NEEDINFO to cthiel or coolo, to get it onto our radar.
 - the team made very good progress on libzypp / package management last
   week!
 - bundle-lang situation improved -- not completly solved for Beta3 (check
   out #302270 for details)
 - current focus for Beta3:
   * bundle-lang and friends
   * patterns / media layout
   * LiveCD
   * libzypp



In my system with the last update of factory (comes from beta 1 the
problem) all applications based on wxGTK (such as audacity or amule)
fail in 32 or 64 bits when I try to save a file.
For example for audacity I got with ddd in 32 bits kde version:

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 0xb678f6d0 (LWP 16176)]
0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb724e835 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0xb7250121 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#3  0xb728b41b in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x in ?? ()

For example for amule I got with ddd in 32 bits kde version:

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 0xb6c76a00 (LWP 16283)]
0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb)
No source file named 0.0.0.0.
(gdb) bt
#0  0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb773b835 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0xb773d121 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#3  0xb777841b in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x in ?? ()

Other problem appeared in the 32 bits kde version (updated from 10.2),
is the frequent crash of the rpmdb. This problem not appear in the
same system with the 64 bits version and a fresh install of 10.3 beta
2 X86-64 kde.

I mean that the problem with the rpmdb comes from e file system access
error, derived from a inmature state of the ahci driver for the
SB600/RD580 chipset . For example now I do:

dmesg | grep ahci
ahci :00:12.0: version 3.0
ahci :00:12.0: controller can't do 64bit DMA, forcing 32bit
ahci :00:12.0: controller can't do PMP, turning off CAP_PMP
ahci :00:12.0: AHCI 0001.0100 32 slots 4 ports 3 Gbps 0xf impl SATA mode
ahci :00:12.0: flags: ncq sntf ilck led clo pio slum part
scsi0 : ahci
scsi1 : ahci
scsi2 : ahci
scsi3 : ahci

For installing the the 64 bits kde version I must resizing a partition
for create a new partition. It was very difficult, and the only way
was starting the install process with safe settings, because the
hard disk controller has restarted from time to time.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Device already mounted or mountpoint busy error after some beta2 update, I guess

2007-09-04 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 15:50, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
 Dienstag, 4. September 2007 Wolfgang Woehl:
  Montag, 3. September 2007 Rajko M.:
   On Sunday 02 September 2007 16:15, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
But my initial posting was about an internal device
disappearing from the usual mount infrastructure.
  
   It is solved.
 
  I still don't know why the internal device got grabbed by device-mapper.
  I suspect not having it in fstab (which was on purpose) led to it.
  Although I never conciously configured or invoked dm-mechanisms.

 Plus, I realize this just now, plugging in a usb mass-storage device makes
 kde pop up open in window? which it tries but fails to show the content
 of because device-mapper grabbed it. Is this the default behaviour? It
 can't be.

I'm pretty sure it is not. 
Is this happening after deleting
  /etc/udev/rules.d/62-dm_linear.rules
and 
  dmsetup remove_all

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[opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Bob S

Hello SuSE people,

Last night I upgraded KDE to 3.5.7 release 74.2.  Now when I try to open 
Kmail I get a SIGSERV. This is the backtrace:


System configuration startup check disabled.

(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library /lib64/libthread_db.so.1.
(no debugging symbols found)
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 47452890718560 (LWP 5163)]
[KCrash handler]
#5  0x2b2871c9ea4b in KMFolderCachedImap::account ()
  from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so
#6  0x2b2871d7e609 in KMailICalIfaceImpl::readConfig ()
  from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so
#7  0x2b2871cc7854 in KMKernel::init ()
  from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so
#8  0x00402944 in QObject::checkConnectArgs ()
#9  0x2b28735f3ae4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#10 0x00402739 in QObject::checkConnectArgs ()
#11 0x7fff393eb0d8 in ?? ()
#12 0x in ?? ()

I have no idea what that is saying. I tried to reinstall it or downgrade 
it but cannnot figure out what rpm it is in.

I did an rpm -qf kmail, but it replied No such file or directory.

Somebody please help me get my kmail back?

Bob S
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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2

2007-09-04 Thread Jos van Kan
RTF schreef:
 Greetings all.  I'm preparing to install OpenSuse 10.2 and have been
 browsing the web reading various installation instructions (just to make
 sure I don't go an overwrite my MBR or something else stupid) and came
 across the following...
 
 Quote -
 You will see now a summary of the Installation Settings, which comes in
 a Standard (default) and Expert (for power users) view.  I will suggest
 using an empty hard drive for this installation;  that means no other
 operating system on it, ok?  The partition process is automatic and it
 will erase all your data from the selected hard drive.
 Unquote -
 
 I have my hard drive split into two different partitions by Partition
 Magic.  Can I safely assume I may substitute selected partition for
 selected hard drive above?  I've never run into such a draconian
 warning with any other Linux distribution and I have installed several
 over the years, always with a dual boot arrangement with Windows.

It seems to me that earlier in the installation process you have to indicate
what drive/partition to use for the installation. I have installed 10.2 without
any problem on an existing partition without repartitioning the drive, parallell
to an existing 9.3 installation.

I use windows in a virtual box. Now VMware server is *free* that is the ultimate
solution, since you can communicate between the two systems using samba. If you
possess the windows installation disks, you could go for that option.
Unfortunately few MS windows users do.

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Will Stephenson
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 07:13:28 Bob S wrote:
 Somebody please help me get my kmail back?

It's in kdepim3.  There is currently a lot of change happening in the 
buildservice KDE3 packages as we sync up with what will be in 10.3 there.  If 
you need a really stable (in the sense of unchanging packages, you may need 
to downgrade your KDE to the 3.5.5 packages that came with 10.2.

Will

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Re: [opensuse] Re: How many cpu's can linux support?

2007-09-04 Thread Rafa Grimán
Hi :)

El Thursday 30 August 2007, Jan Engelhardt escribió:
 On Aug 27 2007 13:39, Rafa Grimán wrote:
 El Monday 27 August 2007, Alexey Eremenko escribió:
  openSUSE bigsmp kernel supports up to 32 x86 processors.
 
  AFAIK you can build custom kernel with support of up to 255 x86
  processors.
 
 SLES 10 supports up to 1024 cores _out of the box_ on SGI Altix servers
 (NUMA systems aka SSI, _not_ clusters).

 And there is hardly room for expansion.
 Your Altix 4700 already comes with 512 cores...


And it scales upto 1024 cores and 128 TeraBytes of RAM in a SSI (one kernel 
running). NOT a cluster ;)

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Re: [opensuse] Really need help from networking guru

2007-09-04 Thread Art Fore
On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 07:29 -0500, Glenn Holmer wrote:
 On Friday 31 August 2007 06:30, G T Smith wrote:
  Art Fore wrote:
   ifplugd -bfi eth1
   route add default gw 192.168.11.1
   route del default gw 10.18.32.1
 
 I missed the beginning of this thread, so please excuse if this isn't 
 applicable.
 
 It looks like you are trying to change from one set of network settings 
 to another...?  Have you looked into SCPM?
 
 YaST - System - Profile Manager
 
 You can set up various network (and other) profiles and they will appear 
 on your GRUB boot menu selectable by F2.  No need to mess about with 
 changing the init scripts.
 
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[opensuse] aMule eating a world of RAM

2007-09-04 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi, anybody having problem with aMule?, i'm running aMule-2.1.3-1.pm.1
on a Core 2 Duo laptop with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Come from the office this
morning and found my laptop almost unresponsive. I could hardly login
from my desktop with ssh and found amule eating 1.5GB of RAM and all
my swap. Killing the process released all the allocated memory but the
system (well,  kde in fact) stayed unresponsive for almost 10 more
minutes

This was the picture:

top - 08:25:34 up 2 days,  9:31,  6 users,  load average: 6.84, 7.96, 7.89
Tasks: 155 total,   1 running, 148 sleeping,   1 stopped,   5 zombie
Cpu0  :  1.1%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni,  4.1%id, 90.8%wa,  0.2%hi,  1.4%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  :  0.2%us,  0.2%sy,  0.0%ni, 26.9%id, 72.7%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   2051552k total,  2035040k used,16512k free, 1780k buffers
Swap:  2621432k total,  2621164k used,  268k free,59468k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  191 root  10  -5 000 S2  0.0   8:58.43 kswapd0
 3912 ciro  16   0  423m  52m 4868 D2  2.6  54:34.37 ktorrent
21064 ciro  18   0 3650m 1.5g 1452 D1 78.1 194:17.58 amule
 4011 ciro  15   0  201m  17m 2272 S0  0.9  15:20.53 beagled
 8878 ciro  15   0  8740 1284  896 R0  0.1   0:00.52 top

Any other victim?

Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] Creating Repositories

2007-09-04 Thread Druid
http://en.opensuse.org/Creating_YaST_Installation_Sources

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 I have started with OpenSuSE some days ago, and I have many questions
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 a few time:

 I would like to create an RPM's repositoriy with OpenSuSE, to update
 my clients, they will connect on my repos an get my versions of RPM.
 This is possible ? How and where should I start ?

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Re: [opensuse] Miniature desktop slideshow ?

2007-09-04 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 02 September 2007 06:09, Francesco Scaglioni wrote:
 Hi,

 My son has just purchased a vista laptop (needed for
 college).  

Why is Vista needed for college? I can't imagine going to a school which 
stoops down to such an low-class OS as  a requirement. :P

 Whilst vista looks and feels awfull the miniature 
 desktop slideshow in the side-bar is pleasant.  Does anyone
 know of a linux equivalent ?  All the slideshow progs I can
 find seem designed to run full screen.  In an ideal world
 one would be able to display images either by folder, or by
 tag.

Just to clarify - you have the ability to show what apps are running in a 
horizontal scroll bar shown in the middle of the screen and similar to KDE's 
task switcher.  

As far as I know, I have yet to see such a thing. 

I've yet to see really anything in Vista - except for the temperature gauge 
thingy - that is remotely cool. In fact, I rarely see my desktop so I don't 
bother with teh temperature thingy in Linux. (I forget what it is called.)


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[opensuse] Re: .emerald files

2007-09-04 Thread Chris Arnold
Chris Arnold wrote:
 I use gnome and xgl/compiz with desktop effects active and working. Over
 at gnome-look, i have some themes i want to install and they are
 .emerald files. How do i install and use these themes?

   
Sorry, i accidentaly deleted the reply. I did download compiz-emerald
from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.2/
but it is a .ymp file. Not sure how to install a ymp file?
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[opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Robert Lewis
I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.

Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
opinions on this quad processor over the
dual above?

Cheers,
Bob
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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread BandiPat
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
 I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.

 Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
 opinions on this quad processor over the
 dual above?

 Cheers,
 Bob

==

Are the same bugs built into the quad core as are in the dual core?  
Might be something you want to check about before investing.

Lee
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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Eggler
On Tuesday September 4 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
 I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.

 Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
 opinions on this quad processor over the
 dual above?

 Cheers,
 Bob
I've been trying to install a system on a Q6600 as well, no luck till now. Any 
suggestions would be highly appreciated!
Thanks to everyone!
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Re: [opensuse] does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

2007-09-04 Thread BandiPat
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, russ brocklehurst wrote:
 looking to set up a dual raid system on a ASUS M2N32  does any one
 have issues on this mother board ?

==

You take your chances on ASUS equipment.  Just check the many forums and 
mail lists to get an idea of the many problems associated with 
something asus and Linux.  ASUS had good stuff several years ago when 
they were trying to build their brand, but there are better choices 
now.

Ultimately, your decision, but I would give it careful consideration.

regards,
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Re: [opensuse] does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

2007-09-04 Thread Rui Santos


BandiPat wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2007, russ brocklehurst wrote:
   
 looking to set up a dual raid system on a ASUS M2N32  does any one
 have issues on this mother board ?
 

 ==

 You take your chances on ASUS equipment.  Just check the many forums and 
 mail lists to get an idea of the many problems associated with 
 something asus and Linux.  ASUS had good stuff several years ago when 
 they were trying to build their brand, but there are better choices 
 now.
   
Could you state a couple of examples ?

Thanks
 Ultimately, your decision, but I would give it careful consideration.

 regards,
 Lee
   
Rui


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Re: [opensuse] does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

2007-09-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Rui Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 12:20]:
 BandiPat wrote:
  You take your chances on ASUS equipment.  Just check the many forums
  and mail lists to get an idea of the many problems associated with 
  something asus and Linux.  ASUS had good stuff several years ago when 
  they were trying to build their brand, but there are better choices 
  now.

 Could you state a couple of examples ?

My locally retained posts from opensuse pertaining to asus forwarded
to your email act.

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[opensuse] Re: does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

2007-09-04 Thread Philipp Thomas
* Patrick Shanahan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070904 18:25]:

 My locally retained posts from opensuse pertaining to asus forwarded
 to your email act.

Funny, I didn't have any problems with the ASUS boards I bought, the last
one being a socket 939 nforce4 board (forgot the name).

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Re: [opensuse] Partition size for subversion repository

2007-09-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 17:53 +0300, Cristea Bogdan wrote:
 Can you recommend what should be the partition size for holding only a
 subversion repository. I need this for my personal projects, which in general
 are quite small.

If you just have small personal projects, any size will do.  You don't
even need a separate partition; I keep my old repositories in ~/cvsroot
(still called that for historical reasons; most are SVN now).

  Federico

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Re: [opensuse] does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

2007-09-04 Thread Rui Santos
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Rui Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 12:20]:
   
 BandiPat wrote:
 
 You take your chances on ASUS equipment.  Just check the many forums
 and mail lists to get an idea of the many problems associated with 
 something asus and Linux.  ASUS had good stuff several years ago when 
 they were trying to build their brand, but there are better choices 
 now.
   
   
 Could you state a couple of examples ?
 

 My locally retained posts from opensuse pertaining to asus forwarded
 to your email act.
   
Thank you for your reply with all those emails.
I've had a few problems with ASUS too but, the question about the
examples where about an alternative to ASUS. Sorry for that, should have
specified.


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Re: [opensuse] does any have not on asus m232 motherboard

2007-09-04 Thread BandiPat
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Rui Santos wrote:
 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
  * Rui Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 12:20]:
  BandiPat wrote:
  You take your chances on ASUS equipment.  Just check the many
  forums and mail lists to get an idea of the many problems
  associated with something asus and Linux.  ASUS had good stuff
  several years ago when they were trying to build their brand, but
  there are better choices now.
 
  Could you state a couple of examples ?
 
  My locally retained posts from opensuse pertaining to asus
  forwarded to your email act.

 Thank you for your reply with all those emails.
 I've had a few problems with ASUS too but, the question about the
 examples where about an alternative to ASUS. Sorry for that, should
 have specified.


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=

Rui,
Wherever you or Russ find your ASUS boards, I'm sure others are listed 
as well.  If the site or store you shop at only have ASUS equipment, 
then I would suggest you locate something that has a wider selection.  
The choice is yours, do your homework, look over the features and make 
a choice, not always the latest thing out, but you'll be better assured 
it will work with your favorite Linux.

good luck on you quest!

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox

2007-09-04 Thread Stevens
On Monday 03 September 2007 20:40, Hans Linux wrote:
 You r right! I reinstalled virtualbox using its binary and having
 windows xp running as guest now. Great software, much better than vmware
 which is not stable and slow 

 one thing remain is USB. 

I opted to not recompile the kernel and jump through all the hoops.
When I plug in a USB device, usually a flash drive, KDE sees it but
VirtualBox doesn't. I simply share the device with Samba and voila!
VirtualBox now has access to it. 

That solution works for me but might irritate the crap out of others
on this list, so YMMV.

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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Robert Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.

 Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
 opinions on this quad processor over the
 dual above?

The CPU itself should not cause any problems - if you get some, I would
expect them in the components,

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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Ron Eggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday September 4 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
 I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.

 Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
 opinions on this quad processor over the
 dual above?

 Cheers,
 Bob
 I've been trying to install a system on a Q6600 as well, no luck till now. 
 Any 
 suggestions would be highly appreciated!

Did you file a bugreport?  Where does it fail?  Which hardware is not
working?  I doubt it's the CPU ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 in VMware 6 - network card not working on boot

2007-09-04 Thread James PEARSON
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:54:08 +0200
Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a minor annoyance with my openSUSE 10.2 install inside a VMWare
 6 instance.  When I boot up the VM of openSUSE, the network card is
 not working.  

For what it is worth, I have currently have a openSUSE 10.2 --nogui installed 
on WMware 6
(45731) on a openSUSE 10.2 host and the network works fine. I just upgraded the 
OS via
smart and it still works fine. I can't remember any problems in the past like 
the one you
are describing.

I also have several installations of different 10.3 betas with gui and the 
networks all work
fine. I have never had a problem like the one you are describing.

I normally use a Bridged network connection which uses DHCP connection 
attributed by my
modem/router 

Does the same thing happen if you re install 10.2 as a new VMware instance ?

Note: I have never installed VMware tools on a linux (VMware) installation 
because I have
never taken the time to read the manual to fine out how. 

voilà et voilà 

Regards
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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Espresati Serrano
Stevens escribió:
 On Monday 03 September 2007 20:40, Hans Linux wrote:
   
 You r right! I reinstalled virtualbox using its binary and having
 windows xp running as guest now. Great software, much better than vmware
 which is not stable and slow 

 one thing remain is USB. 
 

 I opted to not recompile the kernel and jump through all the hoops.
 When I plug in a USB device, usually a flash drive, KDE sees it but
 VirtualBox doesn't. I simply share the device with Samba and voila!
 VirtualBox now has access to it. 

 That solution works for me but might irritate the crap out of others
 on this list, so YMMV.

 Fred 
   
Just edit your fstab. Add  *#   *to your usb line, like this:

#usbfs/proc/bus/usbusbfs 
noauto0 0

Then add this line:

usbfs   /proc/bus/usbusbfs  defaults,devmode=666 0 0

Save, exit and restart your pc! ;-)

I made this how-to:

http://www.forosuse.org/forosuse/showthread.php?t=13508

Is in spanish. Sorry formy bad english!
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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread K.R. Foley
Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Tuesday September 4 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
 I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.

 Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
 opinions on this quad processor over the
 dual above?

 Cheers,
 Bob
 I've been trying to install a system on a Q6600 as well, no luck till now. 
 Any 
 suggestions would be highly appreciated!
 Thanks to everyone!
 Ron

What version of Linux are you trying to install? What kind of errors are
you getting? We had some major headaches getting some newer motherboards
working with older versions of Linux.

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox

2007-09-04 Thread Sloan
Hugo Espresati Serrano wrote:
 Stevens escribió:
   
 On Monday 03 September 2007 20:40, Hans Linux wrote:
   
 
 You r right! I reinstalled virtualbox using its binary and having
 windows xp running as guest now. Great software, much better than vmware
 which is not stable and slow 

 one thing remain is USB. 
 
   
 I opted to not recompile the kernel and jump through all the hoops.
 When I plug in a USB device, usually a flash drive, KDE sees it but
 VirtualBox doesn't. I simply share the device with Samba and voila!
 VirtualBox now has access to it. 

 That solution works for me but might irritate the crap out of others
 on this list, so YMMV.

 Fred 
   
 
 Just edit your fstab. Add  *#   *to your usb line, like this:

 #usbfs/proc/bus/usbusbfs 
 noauto0 0

 Then add this line:

 usbfs   /proc/bus/usbusbfs  defaults,devmode=666 0 0

 Save, exit and restart your pc! ;-)

   
Thanks for the tip, but... a small question... restart? pc?

Since this is linux, and not that pc OS we all know so well, shouldn't
it be enough to type:

mount -oremount /proc/bus/usb

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 in VMware 6 - network card not working on boot

2007-09-04 Thread Clayton
 I normally use a Bridged network connection which uses DHCP connection
 attributed by my modem/router

Same here.


 Does the same thing happen if you re install 10.2 as a new VMware instance ?

I haven't done a reinstall of 10.2 in a while.  I have the various
Betas of 10.3 installed and they are fine so far.  Granted I don't use
them heavily like I do the 10.2 install.

I also have a couple Ubuntu variations installed.. and they are fine.

It is only this one install of 10.2.  I've searched around on the web,
but as of yet turned up nothing that was useful or helpful.


 Note: I have never installed VMware tools on a linux (VMware) installation 
 because I have
 never taken the time to read the manual to fine out how.

It's easy... install the RPM, and then run the config perl script.
Advantages are basically you can synch the time of the guest to the
host, smooth transitions for the mouse when you're using a GUI in the
guest, better handling of the graphics card and so on.

I had my NIC probs prior to installing the VMWare tools with no
change after installing the tools.

C
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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Eggler
On Tuesday September 4 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Ron Eggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday September 4 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
  I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.
 
  Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
  opinions on this quad processor over the
  dual above?
 
  Cheers,
  Bob
 
  I've been trying to install a system on a Q6600 as well, no luck till
  now. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!

 Did you file a bugreport?  Where does it fail?  Which hardware is not
 working?  I doubt it's the CPU ;-)

Andreas, I've done the following:
Last week i went to buy a new PC. I decided to get an acer aspire ASE700
which comes witch a Quad Intel 6600 Processor, 2 GB RAM and 500GB
Harddrive. It seemed to be a pretty good deal for the price they had
offered it. Anyways, after playing around with Windows Vista, I would have
liked to really use my system and install Suse 10.2 on it. Okay, i
downloaded the single CD to install from the net. booted from it - black
screen after LILO. Okay I thought, it maybe the CD. I downloaded all the
ISOs, burned em and now: The bootmanager comes up, when I
select installation and Text Mode it loads the kernel and gets stuck
on ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00) I have no idea what this means
but above this it says: your CPUs had inconsistent fixed MTRR settings
ACPI: probably your BIOS does not setup all CPUs. 
ACPI: corrected configuration. 
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00)
Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work anymore Okay, Power-off, Power-on
This time I selected Installation--ACPI Disabled (and text mode) loading
kernel seems to be fine but it gets stuck on a screen saying:
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:02.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:03.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:1a.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:1c.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device :00:1c.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:01.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:02.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:03.0
PCI: Found IRQ 5 with :00:1a.0
NET: Registered protocol family 2
Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't work anymore Okay, Power-off, Power-on
This time I selected Installation--Local APIC Disabled (and text
mode) loading kernel seems to be finebut it gets stuck again, this time
the screen says:
ACPI Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00)
So i really don't know further. Does anyone know any of above messages? 
I've also tried to boot with following commands:
acpi=off
acpi=oldboot
pci=acpi
pci=noacpi acpi=noirq
pci=routeirq
acpi=force
acpi_irq_balance
acpi_irq_nobalance
apic
noapic
lapic
nolapic
but it's all been unsuccesful.
May
anyone help me to get it installed? It would so much be appreciated!
I've asked in alt. os. linux.suse but nobody was able to help me from
there... I'm getting desperate... :o
Thank you!
Ron


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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Eggler
On Tuesday September 4 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Ron Eggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday September 4 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
  I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.
 
  Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
  opinions on this quad processor over the
  dual above?
 
  Cheers,
  Bob
 
  I've been trying to install a system on a Q6600 as well, no luck till
  now. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!

 Did you file a bugreport?  Where does it fail?  Which hardware is not
 working?  I doubt it's the CPU ;-)

I haven't filed a bug report yet. Not sure who i should report it to.


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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger

Ron,

Please do file a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com - and I would
appreciate if you test Beta3 since it contains many bugfixes.  Beta3
will be available later this week,

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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Ron Eggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tuesday September 4 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Ron Eggler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Tuesday September 4 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
  I know that the E6600 runs well on Linux.
 
  Anyone have a Q6600 running and have
  opinions on this quad processor over the
  dual above?
 
  Cheers,
  Bob
 
  I've been trying to install a system on a Q6600 as well, no luck till
  now. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!

 Did you file a bugreport?  Where does it fail?  Which hardware is not
 working?  I doubt it's the CPU ;-)

 I haven't filed a bug report yet. Not sure who i should report it to.

for instructions see bugs.opensuse.org.  File it via bugzilla.novell.com
for openSUSE 10.3, component kernel, 

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[opensuse] MSI Laptops under openSUSE 10.2

2007-09-04 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Has any one tried running MSI Laptops under openSUSE Linux 10.2?

Specifically has anyone tried the VR600 model?

What's interesting about it:
1. It's not too expensive
2. You can buy it without a pre-installed Windows OS i.e. no Gates tax.

Thanks,

DAF


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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread BandiPat
On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Ron,

 Please do file a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com - and I would
 appreciate if you test Beta3 since it contains many bugfixes.  Beta3
 will be available later this week,

 Andreas

=

I think that may be his best chance of getting an install Andreas, to 
install 10.3.  Sounds to me like the newer kernel may help a lot on 
such new hardware.  I suppose also, he could download a LiveCD that 
uses the new kernel, 2.6.22 or better to test with that also.  Wouldn't 
matter what distro to test with, since there is no 10.3 LiveCD out yet, 
he's just looking to get something running to help solve his problem.

luck,
Lee
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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Eggler
On Tuesday September 4 2007, BandiPat wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
  Ron,
 
  Please do file a bugreport at bugzilla.novell.com - and I would
  appreciate if you test Beta3 since it contains many bugfixes.  Beta3
  will be available later this week,
 
  Andreas

 =

 I think that may be his best chance of getting an install Andreas, to
 install 10.3.  Sounds to me like the newer kernel may help a lot on
 such new hardware.  I suppose also, he could download a LiveCD that
 uses the new kernel, 2.6.22 or better to test with that also.  Wouldn't
 matter what distro to test with, since there is no 10.3 LiveCD out yet,
 he's just looking to get something running to help solve his problem.

 luck,
 Lee
Yes,

I think i'll try Suse 10.3 beta as soon as available. This is I guess my only 
chance... or doesn anyone know of a live CD using kernel 2.6.22?

Ron


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[opensuse] Xephyr, xauth, etc, under 10.3

2007-09-04 Thread John Layt
Hi,

I'm having a few issues getting Xephyr working on 10.3 for my KDE4 development 
environment.

Here's what I'm doing:

  sudo xhost +local:kde-devel
  su - kde-devel
  Xephyr :1 -screen 1024x768 
  export DISPLAY=:1
  bin/startkde 

Which gets me:

  AUDIT: Tue Sep  4 19:40:14 2007: 18007 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local
host (uid 1001)
  AUDIT: Tue Sep  4 19:40:14 2007: 18007 Xephyr: client 1 rejected from local
host (uid 1001)
  No protocol specified
  xsetroot:  unable to open display ':1'

etc...

This proceedure was working for me in Kubuntu a short while back, so I guess 
there's something about openSuse's setup that's different.  I've tried 
googling, but nothing springs to light.  Any ideas?

Cheers!

John.

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Atcheson
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 5:58 am, Will Stephenson wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 07:13:28 Bob S wrote:
  Somebody please help me get my kmail back?

Bob, I had a similar problem and finally hit on a method to get the earlier 
kde stuff back.  First I tried to simply go back to the previous version of 
Kmail, but that failed miserable. 

I use smart to do the updating and such.  So this morning I searched for 
kdebase and found a whole passle of stuff, I went to kdebase and selected the 
previous version, kdebase 3.5.5-102.6.  Selecting that brought up a number of 
dependencies to downgrade.  Then I looked for various kde things in that 
range, 3.5.5-102.6 and that took me further toward nirvanna.  I made sure 
kdepim was at that level too.  The I said GO and lo and behold, it downgraded 
kde to where it was useable and Kmail works like it's supposed to.

I tried to do the same thing yesterday using YAST but that was a complete 
failure for me.  Maybe someone else can give you another more specific way to 
do it, but this worked for me.

Good luck,
Richard
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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Espresati Serrano
Sloan escribió:
 Hugo Espresati Serrano wrote:
   
 Stevens escribió:
   
 
 On Monday 03 September 2007 20:40, Hans Linux wrote:
   
 
   
 You r right! I reinstalled virtualbox using its binary and having
 windows xp running as guest now. Great software, much better than vmware
 which is not stable and slow 

 one thing remain is USB. 
 
   
 
 I opted to not recompile the kernel and jump through all the hoops.
 When I plug in a USB device, usually a flash drive, KDE sees it but
 VirtualBox doesn't. I simply share the device with Samba and voila!
 VirtualBox now has access to it. 

 That solution works for me but might irritate the crap out of others
 on this list, so YMMV.

 Fred 
   
 
   
 Just edit your fstab. Add  *#   *to your usb line, like this:

 #usbfs/proc/bus/usbusbfs 
 noauto0 0

 Then add this line:

 usbfs   /proc/bus/usbusbfs  defaults,devmode=666 0 0

 Save, exit and restart your pc! ;-)

   
 
 Thanks for the tip, but... a small question... restart? pc?

 Since this is linux, and not that pc OS we all know so well, shouldn't
 it be enough to type:

 mount -oremount /proc/bus/usb

 ?



   
Well, it's another way, I haven't tried it =)

Sorry for my bad english.

GNU/Linux. Because rebooting is only for installing hardware jeje
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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Bob S

Will Stephenson wrote:

On Tuesday 04 September 2007 07:13:28 Bob S wrote:
  

Somebody please help me get my kmail back?



It's in kdepim3.  There is currently a lot of change happening in the 
buildservice KDE3 packages as we sync up with what will be in 10.3 there.  If 
you need a really stable (in the sense of unchanging packages, you may need 
to downgrade your KDE to the 3.5.5 packages that came with 10.2.


Will

  

Thanks for replying Will,

Yep, I had to downgrade all of KDE all of the way back to the original 
that came with 10.2
Shame, because there were several upgrades along the way until this last 
one which broke KMail.


Surely I can't be the only one that this happened to.

Should I be reporting a bug? or is it known and the right people are 
already working on it.
Will we get to know when it is safe to upgrade again, or cross our 
fingers and hope?


Bob S.
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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Atcheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 16:54]:
 Bob, I had a similar problem and finally hit on a method to get the earlier 
 kde stuff back.  First I tried to simply go back to the previous version of 
 Kmail, but that failed miserable. 

The latest version has fixed the problem.  Kmail now works.
kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 openSUSE

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox

2007-09-04 Thread Sloan
Hugo Espresati Serrano wrote:
 Sloan escribió:
   
 Thanks for the tip, but... a small question... restart? pc?

 Since this is linux, and not that pc OS we all know so well, shouldn't
 it be enough to type:

 mount -oremount /proc/bus/usb

 ?


 
 Well, it's another way, I haven't tried it =)

 Sorry for my bad english.

 GNU/Linux. Because rebooting is only for installing hardware jeje
   

That's the spirit!

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Bob S
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 17:12, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Richard Atcheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 16:54]:
  Bob, I had a similar problem and finally hit on a method to get the
  earlier kde stuff back.  First I tried to simply go back to the previous
  version of Kmail, but that failed miserable.

 The latest version has fixed the problem.  Kmail now works.
 kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 openSUSE

Hm, Patrick,  kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 is the one that failed for me.
I had to go back to 3.5.5

Bob S
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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Sunny
On 9/4/07, Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The latest version has fixed the problem.  Kmail now works.
  kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 openSUSE
 
 Hm, Patrick,  kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 is the one that failed for me.
 I had to go back to 3.5.5

 Bob S
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kdepim package has build number as well, not only the version. and
there is a new build, at least for 10.0 there is
kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1

I do not see it yet in the 10.2 repositories, but maybe it's not
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[opensuse] Dual / quad core

2007-09-04 Thread Hans Witvliet
Hi,

I think i fried my system (again ;) and was considering the config for
my next system.

When looking at the power consumptions of the multi-core CPU's, i was
wondering if it is possible to power-down one or more cores when the
system load does require them...
A quad core is nice, but needs over an 100watt of energy, that has to
vent-out aswell...

(Or am i talking nonsens?)


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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 18:02]:
 Hm, Patrick, kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 is the one that failed for
 me. I had to go back to 3.5.5

Listen:  It HAS been fixed.

rpm -q --last kdepim3
kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1 Tue 04 Sep 2007 12:09:09 PM EDT


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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Sunny
On 9/4/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 18:02]:
  Hm, Patrick, kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 is the one that failed for
  me. I had to go back to 3.5.5

 Listen:  It HAS been fixed.

 rpm -q --last kdepim3
 kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1 Tue 04 Sep 2007 12:09:09 PM EDT



Patrick - is this 10.2? What repo do you use? I have community,
KDE:/KDE3 and Backports enabled. On 10.0 I see the new build, but for
10.2 still the latest is the one from Friday. Using smart to update.

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 19:06]:
 On 9/4/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 18:02]:
   Hm, Patrick, kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 is the one that failed for
   me. I had to go back to 3.5.5
 
  Listen:  It HAS been fixed.
 
  rpm -q --last kdepim3
  kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1 Tue 04 Sep 2007 12:09:09 PM 
  EDT
 
 
 
 Patrick - is this 10.2? What repo do you use? I have community,
 KDE:/KDE3 and Backports enabled. On 10.0 I see the new build, but for
 10.2 still the latest is the one from Friday. Using smart to update.


http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.2/x86_64/kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1.x86_64.rpm
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.2/i586/kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1.i586.rpm


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[opensuse] Re: OpenSuse 10.2

2007-09-04 Thread Jonathan Arnold
RTF wrote:
 RTF wrote:
 Greetings all.  I'm preparing to install OpenSuse 10.2 and have been
 browsing the web reading various installation instructions (just to
 make sure I don't go an overwrite my MBR or something else stupid) and
 came across the following...

 Quote -
 You will see now a summary of the Installation Settings, which comes
 in a Standard (default) and Expert (for power users) view.  I will
 suggest using an empty hard drive for this installation;  that means
 no other operating system on it, ok?  The partition process is
 automatic and it will erase all your data from the selected hard drive.
 Unquote -

 I have my hard drive split into two different partitions by Partition
 Magic.  Can I safely assume I may substitute selected partition for
 selected hard drive above?  I've never run into such a draconian
 warning with any other Linux distribution and I have installed several
 over the years, always with a dual boot arrangement with Windows.

 Thanks in advance.

 Rob
 Well...I attempted to install once again tonight and was confronted with
 the following Installation Summary:
 
 * Delete logical volume /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 (68.8 gb)
 *Delete logical volume /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 (1.9 gb)
 *Remove volume group VolGroup00
 *Delete partition /dev/sda2 (101.9 gb)
 *Delete partition /dev/sda3 (70.8 gb
 *Delete partition /dev/sda5(? hard to read on the screen) (70.8 gb)
 
 Needless to say, I did not procede further with the installation.  :(

That's what it will do by default. But if you just click on the Partition
selection, you can select from a bunch of different option, including picking
whatever partition you want.

And yeah, pick an empty partition, not necessarily an empty hard drive, is the
way to go.

My favorite online installation guide is here:

http://www.opensuse.computerlanguages.org/install.php

And be sure to check out Hacking 10.2 here:

http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/60/

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Re: [opensuse] Up to date bonding documentation ?

2007-09-04 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:39, Christian Zoz wrote:
 Hi Rajko,

 On Sun, Sep 02, Rajko M. wrote:
  http://en.opensuse.org/Bonding
  http://en.opensuse.org/Bonded_Interfaces_With_Optional_VLAN

 Thanks for the pointer.

  BTW, as coauthor of ifcfg-bonding manual, can you see above links.
  First probably needs update for newer versions of SUSE.

 Can you remind me somewhen in October? I'm very busy atm.

I guess that personal information manager would do a better job, but I'll put 
it in here, just in case for Oct 9th. 

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Re: [opensuse] Kmail sigserv

2007-09-04 Thread Sunny
On 9/4/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 19:06]:
  On 9/4/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   * Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-07 18:02]:
Hm, Patrick, kde 3.5.7 release 74.2 is the one that failed for
me. I had to go back to 3.5.5
  
   Listen:  It HAS been fixed.
  
   rpm -q --last kdepim3
   kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1 Tue 04 Sep 2007 12:09:09 
   PM EDT
  
  
 
  Patrick - is this 10.2? What repo do you use? I have community,
  KDE:/KDE3 and Backports enabled. On 10.0 I see the new build, but for
  10.2 still the latest is the one from Friday. Using smart to update.


 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.2/x86_64/kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1.x86_64.rpm
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.2/i586/kdepim3-3.5.7.enterprise.0.20070904.708281-3.1.i586.rpm



OK, does someone know what's the difference (besides that obviously it
misses packages) between:
http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/
and
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/xxx

I have the first from the guru's smart package, I did not add it manually.


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Re: [opensuse] CPU Intel Q6600

2007-09-04 Thread roN
On September 4, 2007, BandiPat wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Ron Eggler wrote:
Yes,
   
I think i'll try Suse 10.3 beta as soon as available. This is I
guess my only chance... or doesn anyone know of a live CD using
kernel 2.6.22?
   
Ron
  
   =
   Hey Ron,
   Yes, get the Zenwalk LiveCD 4.6 as it uses the 2.6.21 kernel, which
   should give you some idea.  I just remembered, we only got 2.6.22
   with the upcoming release of 4.8.  I suppose you could always get
   the 4.8 beta to try, but that needs to be installed.  The LiveCD
   will provide gparted also, so you can partition your drive.  Let me
   know if you want the 4.8 beta and I'll give you a site to download
   from, but just follow the link in my sig for LiveCD.
  
   Let me know how it goes!
 
  Cool yup, will try this for sure, thanks :)
 
  Ron

 ==

 Oh, a thought just struck me too.  If when booting the LiveCD appears to
 hang, leave it to run.  I've noticed on Intel machines it has to go
 through a long period of locating or setting up or something to get
 going.  Not sure what it is about the Intel stuff that causes that, I
 try to use only AMD if possible and I don't see that happen.  There
 have been a couple of times I quit the boot up because I thought it had
 locked up, but then realized it only happened with Intel stuff.

 Lee
Lee,

Okay, i downloaded this live CD but it doesn't go further than the language 
choice and then the choice to start the Live CD either. I only have a 
choice of Live CD and Live CD with graphics in safe mode (or something). 
Whatever i choose, I only see initrd.gz... before my 
screen goes blank and it gets stuck as if i booted with knoppix or 
opensuse10.2. Do you got any magic boot loader command? Or i don't know 
what i can do now... i'm stuck...just bought a new PC and i don't wanna get 
used to Windows Vista now where i finally got linux running even on my office 
work station. :) Help is still appreciated!

Thanks,
Ron


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Re: [opensuse] Printing Failure (SOLVED)

2007-09-04 Thread Carl Spitzer
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 13:34 +1000, Dave Barton wrote:
 OK! I am either stubborn or stupid (maybe both), but after a 4th cups
 uninstall + reinstall, I was able get into cups administration. Still
 not able to print, but a different error message (postscript error).
 Checked a test ps file with ghostview and got the following error:
 CRIT: rangecheck in get Operand stack:
 /usr/local/share/fonts/marlett.ttf
 Deleted the font file, updated ghostscript configuration and all
 printers now working perfectly.
 
 I now realize the original printing problem started after I added some
 fonts from the Windows partition.
 
 Thanks to all who offered advice.
 

I have had ISP issues so I am catching up.  I had the same in OOo
because of a corrupt TTF file.  I find reinstalling from source ZIP
works for corrupted font files.  Likely its bad on windows also.

BTW I have a nice collection of fonts I downloaded plus some from
friends and even Win311 days.  They work though I would not install on
system seems they load in memory so I just spadmin them into OOo for use
there.

I just have to remember where the backups are in case the on drive one
gets screwed.


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Re: [opensuse] Dual booting openSUSE + Vista

2007-09-04 Thread Carl Spitzer
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 11:12 -0400, James Knott wrote:
 Poul Wittig wrote:
  I have configured Vista to dual boot with Windows XP on my laptop at the
  moment.
  I am now planning on installing openSUSE over the Windows XP partition.
  Are there any known problems on vista being un-bootable after the
  installation?

 
 I wouldn't consider that a problem.  ;-)

Make a dd of the XP partition so you can overwrite the Vista 
when you want to upgrade Windows.

CWSIV

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Re: [opensuse] Howto by pass ssh /etc/nologin

2007-09-04 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Fajar Priyanto wrote:

Hi all,
I'm trying to show a demo on how to modify PAM so that /etc/nologin is bypass 
by ssh. 
I have modified /etc/pam.d/sshd:

#%PAM-1.0
auth includecommon-auth
#auth required   pam_nologin.so
account  includecommon-account
password includecommon-password
session  includecommon-session

When I try to ssh into the PC, I get logged in, but immediately got kicked 
out. In /var/log/messages I see this:

sshd : User fajar is not allowed because /etc/nologin exists



Duh..that's the freaking POINT of /etc/nologin!

Here's an idea -- THINK before you post!


I have 'grep -r nologin /etc
And have commented some of the entries in apparmor too, but still cannot 
login. I once succeeded in bypassing /etc/nologin, but I forget how.




You REMOVE it.

nologin...nologin...no login gee, what could that POSSIBLY mean???

DUH.






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[opensuse] NForce NF6100-400/405

2007-09-04 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
Hi

It seems that this motherboard doesn't have linux drivers. it doesn't detect 
the network driver, and every attempt to install one fails. Oh, the card does 
find the net, but there's a approx. 10 % drop of packets due to frame errors.
I've tried to install the drivers from 
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.23.html with no change of 
behavior.

Searching the net I don't find a lot of information about the NForce 
NF6100-400/405.  Not on NVidias sit or anywhere else.

So I'll ask if anyone knows anything about drivers or even just if NVidia will 
release a driver for this card soon.

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Re: [opensuse] Counter needed

2007-09-04 Thread Aaron Kulkis

ken wrote:

Fri, 06 Jul 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I need a simple program which counts the elapsed time starting from
a given point. Could you give some suggestions?


Another way would be to create one file at the start time and another at
the end time, then calculate the differences in the creation times, e.g.,

touch startfile
(time marches on)
touch finishfile

#output files' mod times in seconds since Epoch's begin; pipe to bc
echo $(stat -c %Y finishfile)-$(stat -c %Y startfile) | bc


#clean up
rm startfile finishfile


That's what the damned time command is for, you twit.

Compared to using the time command, that's just a f***ing stupid
waste of resources, kernal I/O, and it's problematic to boot (if
the computer is rebooted during the job, then the start file is
left to litter the filesystem.  With apologies to South Park:
dubbmb-dumb-dumb-dumb-dummb-dummb-dummb)

Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's advisable,
or even worth considering for more than, oh, 1/10th of a second.


Linux is not Windows, so kindly quit offering solutions which are most
appropriate for that horrific abortion of an O/S.





The above could go into a script with prompts or you could play around
with glade, a nifty GUI front-end builder.  Building GUI front-ends
isn't that tough on Tk either.





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Re: [opensuse] Who said Linux doesnot get Virus infections

2007-09-04 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Hans van der Merwe wrote:

On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 07:38 -0400, James Knott wrote:

Hans van der Merwe wrote:

lware.

Ok, tell me, seeing that I know nothing, if I can compromise a Linux
users home dir - why cant I send out spam?
 
  

I have never claimed such a thing is impossible, but it is far more
difficult to do with Linux.  In order to send out spam, something has to
execute that can do that.  That means the user has to make something
executable and then execute it.  That barrier is much lower in Windows. 
The bottom line, which you apparently refuse to accept, is that it is

much more difficult for such problems to occur with Linux.  Please note,
I'm not saying impossible, just much more difficult.  Please also
understand that Windows was built as a single user system, without many
of the security methods that are standard in Linux  Unix and you can
add to that some extremely poor software design in MS products, that
turn them into a security sieve.  This means no matter how careful a
user is, Windows will always be far more risky.




I think we agree on the subject.

Last thing - I dont think most virus/trojan/DOSattack writers do it
because its easy to do it in Windows (which it is), but because its got
a huge impact on the computer industry (80% odd using flavor of Win)  -
and in there lies my main argument, that if it is do-able in Linux
(irrelevant of afford) it will hit the successful Desktop Linux market.



In which case, you're dumber than a box of rocks.

Windows malware often requires NO user action to cause damage,
where as you have demonstrated your absolute REFUSAL to even
understand that the security model of Unix/Linux (going all the
way back to the 1970's) REQUIRES that a user do several specific
steps to make a malware package run...things that a clueless
newbie isn't going to know how to do in the first place--thus
protecting him/her from his own ignorance.

Now shut up, and get a freaking clue.
Sheesh!




And thats all he wrote
Hans




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Re: [opensuse-packaging] %fdupes

2007-09-04 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Stephan Kulow escribió:


 Fact 3: Many packages are broken in installing massive overlap of files

thats the real problem, but while fixing the broken packages may be a
long term goal, currently such task seems to be an overkill.


 Fact 5: Your communication style is broken, you should check the facts before
   calling other people's ideas broken.

Dont take it personal, my intention was never offend people.


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Re: [opensuse-packaging] %fdupes

2007-09-04 Thread Michael Matz
Hi,

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:

 Sure, because RPM is not broken, what seems to be broken is the idea of 
 using this %fdupes thingy, as AFAICS it will cause more harm than good.

Then you can't see very far.


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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Please criticise my spec file.

2007-09-04 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Paul Elliott wrote:

 http://wiki.links2linux.de/en/index.php/PackMan:PackagingConventions#Biarch.2FAMD64
 
  Biarch/AMD64 
  Various issues related to building on biarch/amd64 architecture: 
  must use %suse_update_config -f and %suse_update_libdir before 
  configure 
  with every package - note that it might break the build of some 
  packages, 
  so it must be tested (only remove it if it breaks), like this: 
 
   ...
   %{?suse_update_config:BuildRequires:autoconf automake libtool}
   ...
   %prep
   %setup -q .
   %{?suse_update_libdir:%{suse_update_libdir}}
   %{?suse_update_config:%{suse_update_config -f}}
 
 
 Why did the packman people say this, why are they wrong, and what should
 I do instead?

In history, there was a long period, when upstream autotools were not
able to detect x86_64 and even longer period (not finished yet) when
programmers learned, that $(libdir) might be different from
$(prefix)/lib. This was the easiest way to make it working.

Correct is:
1. Package should behave correctly.
2. If it does not, try autoreconf. If it helps, ask authors to use newer
   autotools chain.
3. If it does not help, create a patch and send it upstream.

If you are lazy:
1. Package should behave correctly.
2. If it does not, call suse_update* hacks and hope that it fixed it.

Incorrect is:
1. Call suse_update* hacks every time and hope that it did not break it.
2. If it breaks, don't call it.

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[opensuse-packaging] Announce: Vala and python-krbV

2007-09-04 Thread Michel Salim
I have ported my Fedora packaging of Vala for openSUSE, and in order
to be able to use both the openSUSE Build Service and Fedora's koji
from my openSUSE machine, have also ported Fedora's python-krbV (as
well as koji itself).

Vala, which is a compiler for a C#-style language that compiles down
to GObject C code (or optionally straight to native code), might be of
interest; with permission I'd like to add it to GNOME:Community.

Is anyone interested in making use of python-krbV? There's a Python
repository in the OBS, what are the criteria for adding packages
there?

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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Please criticise my spec file.

2007-09-04 Thread Michel Salim
On 04/09/07, Marcus Rueckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2007-09-04 16:49:05 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote:
  Marcus Rueckert wrote:
 
   %if 0%{?suse_version}  1030
   %define _prefix /opt/gnome
   %endif
 
  Insufficient. If you want to use %configure, you have to redefine all
  used paths (_bindir, _datadir and so on).
 
  You also may use following trick:
  %define _prefix %(pkg-config --variable=prefix libgnome-2.0)
  %define _libdir %(pkg-config --variable=libdir libgnome-2.0)
  ...
 
  Instead of libgnome-2.0 you can use package of your choice. Not all
  standard variables are defined in all packages.

 afaik all other variables are defined relative to _prefix.
 so just changing _prefix should be sufficient no?

Yes; I've tried not overriding _libdir, etc. and it has no effect.

Depending on the files the package install, though, you might still
have to redefine _sysconfdir : on openSUSE 10.2 and below it's
/etc%{_prefix} rather than /etc .

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