Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice frozen at save command
On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Hans defaber wrote: hi folks, Suse 10.3 and the last version of openoffice. Sometimes I have to write a letter and want to use openoffice. but this time since some months it went wrong nice letter and save (or save as) it. At that moment the wordprocessor freezes completely the only thing I can do is logoff. I logged in as root, same problem I removed and re-installed open office, same problem I set back my 'immidiate after update to 10.3' imagebackup back, same problem I deleted the ooo-2.0 directory in my homedir, same problem. Has anybody an idea wat it can be ? It might be the bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333815. It should work after you install the OpenOffice_org-kde package. If it does not help, please report a bug. As a workaround, you might try to enable the check box Tools/Options.../OpenOffice.org/General/Use OpenOffice.org dialogs. Note that I would like to fix the bug #333815 in a next maintenance update. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice error after update
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Hans defaber wrote: This is problem is yesterday mailed as openoffice freezes at save command. I re-edited the problem Used: Suse 10.3(x86-64) openoffice 2.3.0 I have upgraded my system from suse 10.2 to suse 10.3 After the upgrade i have the following problem using the wordprocessor or writing spreadsheets (other functionality not tested). 1. The exit command does nothing (menu File Exit or ctrl Q) 2. The save or save-as command freezes the whole application, logoff is the only solution. I believe that the exit command problem is related to the freeze. If there is a part of OOo freezed, the behavior of the whole application is undefined... -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: Fredag 16 november 2007 18:28 skrev G T Smith: snip My smb,conf is rather complex ... and the word document extension was not included in the oplock veto list for the particular share definition, (for some reason I was under the impression I had included the extension)... ooo does not do oplocks well and this setting disables this fore these files... Thanks for the input... May the list see the actual line(s) from your smb.conf ? - thanks! - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 Here is the line originally veto oplock files = /*.odb/*.ott/*.ods/*.odt/*.sxw/ needed to be... veto oplock files = /*.odb/*.ott/*.ods/*.odt/*.sxw/*.doc/ and problem fixed for Linux... BTW the end backslash is important and have not tested whether this could cause problems on the Windows side yet... if it does may need to do something rather creative with share definitions... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPtBmasN0sSnLmgIRAuehAJ9ouNCXWk75HYPgmw8knBFGMZ61OwCg2gyI Bj44qdjmrsdQsJmThuu3sMQ= =YOO4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Freemyer wrote: On Nov 15, 2007 10:44 AM, G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Coan wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007 07:47:21 am G T Smith wrote: snip experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. I use openSuSE 10.3 (x86_64) accessing cifs shares on an openSuSE 10.2 (x86_64) server and openOffice 2.3 and get the exact same error the first time I hit Ctl-s to save a document. The second time I hit Ctl-s it saves the document s I never really bothered to investigate and didn't realize that it was only when I was saving to a cifs share. Mike Now that is an interesting variant on the theme. I usually use file-save need to check what happens if I use Ctl-s... Checked this ... same behaviour :-( - -- I don't have any problem either way, but my Samba setup may not be as secure as it should be. In particular from my workstation (OS 10.3, which only I use): My fstab has: //10.0.1.42/data /Z cifs user=gaf,pass=mypass,noperm,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0 My CIFS server is a OpenSUSE 10.2 machine running Samba. Greg This is an old issue that does not seem want to go away, and for some reason it is unique to openOffice on Linux (possibly because openOffice has to run both on Windoze and *NIX ). I have yet to come across another application which has this problem. It is usually something to with file locks on a samba mounted cifs file system and as AFAIK security is not reported be a contributory factor. What would be interesting here is info on the server fs and the samba settings on the file share. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPWcWasN0sSnLmgIRAkd6AKDCwdgvBEGptfP9jKPIx9aGLUDsAACfXu1A oqR2ku33mOL/F7eXfyNRUWg= =SPpT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
G T Smith wrote: All, Is anyone else experiencing this... SuSE 10.2 openOffice 2.3.0.1 (updated to 2.3.0.1.2-4.1 ) When attempting save a modified word format document to a cifs share I get the 'could not create backup copy' error message (usually indicates a cifs file locking problem). When I do the same either on the local file system or with an open office document on any file system I have no problems at all. Last time I checked it was not reported in bugzilla, and if anyone is experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. No problems here. Client is a openSuSE 10.3 laptop. Server is SuSE Linux 10.0. The 10.3 cifs mounts are: //nemesis/samba on /mnt/nemesis type cifs (rw,mand) //nemesis/david on /mnt/nemesis-david type cifs (rw,mand) //nemesis/config on /mnt/nemesis-cfg type cifs (rw,mand) mounted with #!/bin/bash mount.cifs //nemesis/samba /mnt/nemesis/ -o username=david,uid=1000,password=mypass,noperm mount.cifs //nemesis/david /mnt/nemesis-david/ -o username=david,uid=1000,password=mypass,noperm mount.cifs //nemesis/config /mnt/nemesis-cfg/ -o username=david,uid=1000,password=mypass,noperm Samba 3.0.26a-0.1.82-1474-SUSE-SL10.0, the relevant portions of the smb.conf are [global] workgroup = RB_LAW server string = Samba %v map to guest = Bad User log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 100 name resolve order = wins lmhosts bcast time server = Yes socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 printcap name = cups disable spoolss = Yes show add printer wizard = No os level = 69 preferred master = Yes domain master = Yes dns proxy = No wins support = Yes hosts allow = 192.168.7., 192.168.6., 192.168.8., 192.168.5., 127., 66.76.63.60 printing = cups print command = lpq command = %p lprm command = [homes] comment = Home Directories read only = No browseable = No [samba] comment = Base Samba Share path = /home/samba valid users = david admin users = david force user = david force group = skyline read only = No inherit permissions = Yes browseable = No Here is a guess, try mounting your home share and see if you get the same results. If you do, you still have problems. If not, then try to include an admin users config on your other share naming you as the admin user, restart samba and try again. This is just a guess. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
Fredag 16 november 2007 18:28 skrev G T Smith: snip My smb,conf is rather complex ... and the word document extension was not included in the oplock veto list for the particular share definition, (for some reason I was under the impression I had included the extension)... ooo does not do oplocks well and this setting disables this fore these files... Thanks for the input... May the list see the actual line(s) from your smb.conf ? - thanks! - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David C. Rankin wrote: G T Smith wrote: All, Is anyone else experiencing this... SuSE 10.2 openOffice 2.3.0.1 (updated to 2.3.0.1.2-4.1 ) When attempting save a modified word format document to a cifs share I get the 'could not create backup copy' error message (usually indicates a cifs file locking problem). When I do the same either on the local file system or with an open office document on any file system I have no problems at all. Last time I checked it was not reported in bugzilla, and if anyone is experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. snip Doh! The clue was in the question.. Why was it only failing for word doc files and not open office documents I look at at my smb,conf in text form and it became blindingly obvious, did not notice the flaw in swat for some reason ... My smb,conf is rather complex ... and the word document extension was not included in the oplock veto list for the particular share definition, (for some reason I was under the impression I had included the extension)... ooo does not do oplocks well and this setting disables this fore these files... Thanks for the input... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPdMpasN0sSnLmgIRAngkAJ9+8BSaWTEiiRzvpjA96Q+F5v9cMACdEzTt g4ttkjgLWHiIFJ8IH3ArIN4= =4m3u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, Is anyone else experiencing this... SuSE 10.2 openOffice 2.3.0.1 (updated to 2.3.0.1.2-4.1 ) When attempting save a modified word format document to a cifs share I get the 'could not create backup copy' error message (usually indicates a cifs file locking problem). When I do the same either on the local file system or with an open office document on any file system I have no problems at all. Last time I checked it was not reported in bugzilla, and if anyone is experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPD/ZasN0sSnLmgIRAjGvAJ9dBYTvxcyheufyns7GxhA10qI0eQCgm+rN N6b07lbyc0+SI5QpRzA6fQg= =Y7Ut -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
On Thursday 15 November 2007 07:47:21 am G T Smith wrote: All, Is anyone else experiencing this... SuSE 10.2 openOffice 2.3.0.1 (updated to 2.3.0.1.2-4.1 ) When attempting save a modified word format document to a cifs share I get the 'could not create backup copy' error message (usually indicates a cifs file locking problem). When I do the same either on the local file system or with an open office document on any file system I have no problems at all. Last time I checked it was not reported in bugzilla, and if anyone is experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. I use openSuSE 10.3 (x86_64) accessing cifs shares on an openSuSE 10.2 (x86_64) server and openOffice 2.3 and get the exact same error the first time I hit Ctl-s to save a document. The second time I hit Ctl-s it saves the document s I never really bothered to investigate and didn't realize that it was only when I was saving to a cifs share. Mike -- Michael A. Coan Woodlawn Foundation 524 North Avenue, Suite 203 New Rochelle, NY 10801-3410 Tel 914-632-3778 Fax 914-632-5502 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Coan wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007 07:47:21 am G T Smith wrote: All, Is anyone else experiencing this... SuSE 10.2 openOffice 2.3.0.1 (updated to 2.3.0.1.2-4.1 ) When attempting save a modified word format document to a cifs share I get the 'could not create backup copy' error message (usually indicates a cifs file locking problem). When I do the same either on the local file system or with an open office document on any file system I have no problems at all. Last time I checked it was not reported in bugzilla, and if anyone is experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. I use openSuSE 10.3 (x86_64) accessing cifs shares on an openSuSE 10.2 (x86_64) server and openOffice 2.3 and get the exact same error the first time I hit Ctl-s to save a document. The second time I hit Ctl-s it saves the document s I never really bothered to investigate and didn't realize that it was only when I was saving to a cifs share. Mike Now that is an interesting variant on the theme. I usually use file-save need to check what happens if I use Ctl-s... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPGl5asN0sSnLmgIRAhPsAKDDEO+3kJcqSzMZpxdhon+YYKF3LQCgpbhv G3MyCHcKkm7rrmMpT8KkdQM= =mfUi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice -cifs-and word format docs
On Nov 15, 2007 10:44 AM, G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Coan wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007 07:47:21 am G T Smith wrote: All, Is anyone else experiencing this... SuSE 10.2 openOffice 2.3.0.1 (updated to 2.3.0.1.2-4.1 ) When attempting save a modified word format document to a cifs share I get the 'could not create backup copy' error message (usually indicates a cifs file locking problem). When I do the same either on the local file system or with an open office document on any file system I have no problems at all. Last time I checked it was not reported in bugzilla, and if anyone is experiencing the same problem I will report this, otherwise I will have to spend some time tweaking samba share settings. I use openSuSE 10.3 (x86_64) accessing cifs shares on an openSuSE 10.2 (x86_64) server and openOffice 2.3 and get the exact same error the first time I hit Ctl-s to save a document. The second time I hit Ctl-s it saves the document s I never really bothered to investigate and didn't realize that it was only when I was saving to a cifs share. Mike Now that is an interesting variant on the theme. I usually use file-save need to check what happens if I use Ctl-s... - -- I don't have any problem either way, but my Samba setup may not be as secure as it should be. In particular from my workstation (OS 10.3, which only I use): My fstab has: //10.0.1.42/data /Z cifs user=gaf,pass=mypass,noperm,dir_mode=0777,rw 0 0 My CIFS server is a OpenSUSE 10.2 machine running Samba. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Openoffice error after update
This is problem is yesterday mailed as openoffice freezes at save command. I re-edited the problem Used: Suse 10.3(x86-64) openoffice 2.3.0 I have upgraded my system from suse 10.2 to suse 10.3 After the upgrade i have the following problem using the wordprocessor or writing spreadsheets (other functionality not tested). 1. The exit command does nothing (menu File Exit or ctrl Q) 2. The save or save-as command freezes the whole application, logoff is the only solution. I set my last 10.2 backup back and everything worked fine. I set my first (immediate after upgrade to 10.3) backup back and the problem was there. I logged in as root and have the same problem I re-installed openoffice, same problem I deleted in my homedir the ooo-2.0 directory then this was recreated by openoffice, same problem I checked all accesrights of the used directories, all correct. Does anybody else have this problems Does somebody have any idea what it can be. Thanks, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice frozen at save command
Hans defaber wrote: hi folks, Suse 10.3 and the last version of openoffice. Sometimes I have to write a letter and want to use openoffice. but this time since some months it went wrong nice letter and save (or save as) it. At that moment the wordprocessor freezes completely the only thing I can do is logoff. I logged in as root, same problem I removed and re-installed open office, same problem I set back my 'immidiate after update to 10.3' imagebackup back, same problem I deleted the ooo-2.0 directory in my homedir, same problem. Has anybody an idea wat it can be ? Thanks, Hans While I don't have a fix for that problem, you don't have to log out. Just press Ctl-Alt-Esc and a skull mouse cursor appears. Just click on the app you want closed and it's gone (at least in KDE). -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Extension Manager
Hello James, On Sunday 11 November 2007, James Knott wrote: When installing an OpenOffice extensions, on Ubuntu or Windows, it's only necessary to click on the file to start the Extension Manager, but in SUSE, it's necessary to click on Tools Extension Manager and then select the file to install the extensions. Why is this? Is this a bug or a feature? Good point. Hmm, the .oxt files are not associated with OOo. We need to register the MIME on the system and mention it in the right OOo-related desktop file. Could you please open a bug for this, so it does not get lost? I am sorry, I do not have time to fix it right now. You could assign it directly to me. My bugzilla account is pmladek at novell dot com. Thanks in advance. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice frozen at save command
hi folks, Suse 10.3 and the last version of openoffice. Sometimes I have to write a letter and want to use openoffice. but this time since some months it went wrong nice letter and save (or save as) it. At that moment the wordprocessor freezes completely the only thing I can do is logoff. I logged in as root, same problem I removed and re-installed open office, same problem I set back my 'immidiate after update to 10.3' imagebackup back, same problem I deleted the ooo-2.0 directory in my homedir, same problem. Has anybody an idea wat it can be ? Thanks, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice frozen at save command
Hans defaber schreef:: hi folks, Suse 10.3(x86-64) and the last version of openoffice. Sometimes I have to write a letter and want to use openoffice. but this time since some months it went wrong nice letter and save (or save as) it. At that moment the wordprocessor freezes completely the only thing I can do is logoff. I logged in as root, same problem I removed and re-installed open office, same problem I set back my 'immidiate after update to 10.3' imagebackup back, same problem I deleted the ooo-2.0 directory in my homedir, same problem. Has anybody an idea wat it can be ? Thanks, Hans Some additional info: I set back my last suse10.2 backup, that works fine, no problem at all. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice Extension Manager
When installing an OpenOffice extensions, on Ubuntu or Windows, it's only necessary to click on the file to start the Extension Manager, but in SUSE, it's necessary to click on Tools Extension Manager and then select the file to install the extensions. Why is this? Is this a bug or a feature? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice components disappearing ??
Hi all, strange things are happening with OpenOffice 2.3.x on my OpenSUSE 10.2 systems both at work and at home... OOo worked just fine with all its features but suddenly (I know, it sounds typical...) it started behaving quite odd: some components, like Spreadsheets, are missing... These are the only oo-commands available: ooconfigooffice ooimpress ootool oowriter oodraw oofromtemplate oomath ooweb To make things even more interesting, OOo recognizes the spreadsheets created as .odt files but can't open them... Finally, these are the OOo packages I have installed at home now: # rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-2.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-5.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1 Any hints? TIA, Martin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice components disappearing ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-11-11 at 17:37 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote: strange things are happening with OpenOffice 2.3.x on my OpenSUSE 10.2 systems both at work and at home... OOo worked just fine with all its features but suddenly (I know, it sounds typical...) it started behaving quite odd: some components, like Spreadsheets, are missing... Ahhh... These are the only oo-commands available: ooconfigooffice ooimpress ootool oowriter oodraw oofromtemplate oomath ooweb We know. :-P Finally, these are the OOo packages I have installed at home now: # rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-2.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-5.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1 Any hints? Obviously. X-) I could say search this list archive, because this has been explained weeks ago several times :-p Or I could tell you to install OpenOffice_org-calc and all the missing packages you like to have installed. But for the explanation, I leave you to the archives - I'm too sleepy to explain it now :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHN7O2tTMYHG2NR9URAvg4AJ0TBs5wMJntypPcsseQ93W/npzvyQCgkqU8 0a96sPPj0hu47bop9BtQL84= =SI1D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice components disappearing ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-11-07 21:01]: [...] Or I could tell you to install OpenOffice_org-calc and all the missing packages you like to have installed. But for the explanation, I leave you to the archives - I'm too sleepy to explain it now :-) I'll help (a little): From: Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Cc: Bcc: Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice components disappearing ?? Reply-To: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.18.8-396-default x86_64 SUSE 10.1 Organization: Ptilopteri in Pandemonium * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-11-07 21:01]: [...] Or I could tell you to install OpenOffice_org-calc and all the missing packages you like to have installed. But for the explanation, I leave you to the archives - I'm too sleepy to explain it now :-) I'll help (a little): 22:04 wahoo:~ rpm -qa |grep OpenOffice OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-513.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-officebean-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-mono-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-25.1 OpenOffice_org-testtool-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-2.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-openclipart-2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.5-8.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-nld-2.3.0.5-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-2.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-2.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.0.5-4.1 -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHN8J+ClSjbQz1U5oRAs8ZAJ4puvDpj0QX+/iE/jOcY47wpCS7fwCfXAsh XAkgCd8Lj58n4A/bTr+BKi8= =lBho -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice components disappearing ??
Martin Mielke wrote: Hi all, strange things are happening with OpenOffice 2.3.x on my OpenSUSE 10.2 systems both at work and at home... OOo worked just fine with all its features but suddenly (I know, it sounds typical...) it started behaving quite odd: some components, like Spreadsheets, are missing... These are the only oo-commands available: ooconfigooffice ooimpress ootool oowriter oodraw oofromtemplate oomath ooweb To make things even more interesting, OOo recognizes the spreadsheets created as .odt files but can't open them... Finally, these are the OOo packages I have installed at home now: # rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-2.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-5.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1 Any hints? :-D I won't be as cr-u-ell as Carlos and Patrick. OO is now modular so you need to install the various parts as you need them. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice Question
I was just trying to open a file in order to make a spreadsheet. (It is a comma-delimited file which is the result of a sql query.) I can't seem to open a spreadsheet in OpenOffice. I try and make a new file, try to open Excel files and all I get is some chart tool. If I try to type in Run Calc, I get KCalc. I looked and it seems I have OOo 2.3.0.1 installed. Am I missing something? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Question
Kai Ponte wrote: I was just trying to open a file in order to make a spreadsheet. (It is a comma-delimited file which is the result of a sql query.) I can't seem to open a spreadsheet in OpenOffice. I try and make a new file, try to open Excel files and all I get is some chart tool. If I try to type in Run Calc, I get KCalc. I looked and it seems I have OOo 2.3.0.1 installed. Am I missing something? Hi Kai I'm still on 2.0.4, but when I open a csv file from openoffice, I get the standard Text Import dialogue. The open sequence: File-Open-select file-Open. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Question
Hi, On 10/26/07, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: I was just trying to open a file in order to make a spreadsheet. (It is a comma-delimited file which is the result of a sql query.) I can't seem to open a spreadsheet in OpenOffice. I try and make a new file, try to open Excel files and all I get is some chart tool. If I try to type in Run Calc, I get KCalc. I looked and it seems I have OOo 2.3.0.1 installed. Am I missing something? I have 3.2.0.1 also and no problem% it opens xls and if I'm trying to open csv file, I get text import dialog. I did not install KCalc though. OOo spreadsheet module is called oocalc. Can you call it from command line? -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-10-26 at 07:15 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote: I was just trying to open a file in order to make a spreadsheet. (It is a comma-delimited file which is the result of a sql query.) I can't seem to open a spreadsheet in OpenOffice. I try and make a new file, try to open Excel files and all I get is some chart tool. Do yo have oocalc installed? Make sure you do. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHIf1utTMYHG2NR9URAiWQAJ4hGwI/k5Pc/edLtkQ0Pj6KoZMorACfVfGY gHUVfyZF8AQXQPgmn7kZhaE= =o7Cf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice - 2.3. Issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petr Mladek wrote: Hello, I am sorry for the late repply. On Friday 12 October 2007, G T Smith wrote: Do you know what macro caused this? It is a particular problem with a function call, the function failing is thiscomponent.storeAsURl with an unspecified exception, the values being passed to seem to be OK (now)... The template concerned is a little old so it could be that the call has changed somewhere along the line or the function has been depreciated... (Been meaning to tweak this template so I can use it from both Windows and Linux platforms without having two distinct copies for some time anyway) The VBA (Visual Basic) stuff is under a heavy development. It is possible that we broke the compatibility by mistake. Could you please report this problem into buzilla: product:OpenOffice.org 2.0 component: Macros Would be possible to attach the problematic template there? No problem... Submitted as 337041... Did do a little further investigating and found that storeToURL caused similar problem... On the other issues I found the situation is bit inconsistent, some files that I had problem with on 2.0.x and cifs that got fixed after some samba tweaks, now no longer work, but not all of them. Does not seem to be any pattern to this... I have also found something new... I can print envelopes if I just select the envelope pages, but as a part a large document page format goes strange. However, I am experiencing a similar problem across a range of applications... so I am not sure what is responsible.. - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIeDLasN0sSnLmgIRAizOAJ0auvAlBQAaFN39PjjSuyDuWfXSNgCgsS7n aURrKNzIe/j1D4IDW7jp5O4= =4OS8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Question
Kai Ponte wrote: I was just trying to open a file in order to make a spreadsheet. (It is a comma-delimited file which is the result of a sql query.) I can't seem to open a spreadsheet in OpenOffice. I try and make a new file, try to open Excel files and all I get is some chart tool. Hi! Starting from 2.3.x, opensuse (or ooffice.org?) splits OpenOffice into a bunch of rpms. If you install OpenOffice.org, you only have the common base, and one of the less important products. Search for openoffice in the package mangement, and install all that appear sensible ... starting from OpenOffice_org-calc-*, I presume. Hope this helps, Sebastian PS: Why does reply not default to the list? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Sebastian Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-26-07 11:25]: PS: Why does reply not default to the list? I don't know why the WELCOME message is no longer provided to new subscribers, BUT (excerpt from the suse-lineu-e-help, welcome msg): Q7. Why do my replies go to the original poster and not the list? A7. There is a more complete answer in FAQ, but the short answer is that it's better this way. Trust us on this one, please. a search of the opensuse archives will provide *much* further discussion. You may find the archives by searching opensuse.org. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHIgxZClSjbQz1U5oRAgUiAJ0QfWZN2K60xidaD3LPAHC/E+X3AgCfarzm Lo4q6ihHWmP+VMTAJP4yc44= =Z2l0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice Question
On Friday 26 October 2007 08:22, Sebastian Brandt wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: I was just trying to open a file in order to make a spreadsheet. (It is a comma-delimited file which is the result of a sql query.) I can't seem to open a spreadsheet in OpenOffice. I try and make a new file, try to open Excel files and all I get is some chart tool. Hi! Starting from 2.3.x, opensuse (or ooffice.org?) splits OpenOffice into a bunch of rpms. If you install OpenOffice.org, you only have the common base, and one of the less important products. Search for openoffice in the package mangement, and install all that appear sensible ... starting from OpenOffice_org-calc-*, I presume. Ahh, I got it! thanks!!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice - 2.3. Issues
Hello, I am sorry for the late repply. On Friday 12 October 2007, G T Smith wrote: Do you know what macro caused this? It is a particular problem with a function call, the function failing is thiscomponent.storeAsURl with an unspecified exception, the values being passed to seem to be OK (now)... The template concerned is a little old so it could be that the call has changed somewhere along the line or the function has been depreciated... (Been meaning to tweak this template so I can use it from both Windows and Linux platforms without having two distinct copies for some time anyway) The VBA (Visual Basic) stuff is under a heavy development. It is possible that we broke the compatibility by mistake. Could you please report this problem into buzilla: product:OpenOffice.org 2.0 component: Macros Would be possible to attach the problematic template there? -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice milestones
How can one know which OOo milestone was used in the latest UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ version? juraj -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice milestones
Hi Juraj, Start your OpenOffice.org, and you go to Help - About OpenOffice.org. Then you hold Ctrl key and type s, d, t. Milestone number and build number will scroll up. Thanks, Kazunari Hirano http://council.openoffice.org On 10/21/07, Juraj Trenkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can one know which OOo milestone was used in the latest UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ version? juraj -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice milestones
Dňa Sunday 21 October 2007 Kazunari Hirano napísal: Hi Juraj, Start your OpenOffice.org, and you go to Help - About OpenOffice.org. Then you hold Ctrl key and type s, d, t. Milestone number and build number will scroll up. That is fine. But because of slow internet connection I would like to know it before I decide to download it. I do not want all new versions. Just those with base enhancement. juraj Thanks, Kazunari Hirano http://council.openoffice.org On 10/21/07, Juraj Trenkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can one know which OOo milestone was used in the latest UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ version? juraj -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice milestones
On 10/21/07, Juraj Trenkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is fine. But because of slow internet connection I would like to know it before I decide to download it. I do not want all new versions. Just those with base enhancement. Then you ask a user on the latest UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ version to check OpenOffice.org milestone on it. :) Ask your friends who got installed: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ to check its milestone by doing ctrl + s + d + t. Thanks, khirano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice milestones
On Sunday 21 October 2007 06:27:05 am Juraj Trenkler wrote: How can one know which OOo milestone was used in the latest UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/i586/ version? Juraj, You can browse (Firefox or Konqueror): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.3/repodata/ and select component that you like. Each component has page with details and changelog where you can see what milestone is used, if any new is introduced. Milestone is 'oog680-m5' and it was marked 'OOo-2.3 final'. After latest online update my regular 10.3 OpenOffice is the the same milestone; checked using Kazunari Hirano tip. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
On Monday 15 October 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: And now I can see have solved the problem: In /usr/lib, I have /usr/lib/ooo-2.2 and a symlink /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 pointing to the 2.2. It seems to want .../ooo-2.0 all the way. In /usr/share I found an ooo subdir and a ooo-2.0 subdir. I moved whatever was in ooo ro ooo-2.0 and replaced it with a symlink, just in case something needs it. All this mix up dates back to a long solved fonts problem with V2.1 or 2.2, which necessitated keeping 2 versions around until it was fixed. Thanks for your help - and what a grind. Even with my symlinks, things like this should just not happen. You are welcome. Thanks for the description of the problem. I agree that it should work even with the symlinks. I have already solved some similar problems, see http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=81138. Evidently, it was not enough. I am not sure if I would have time to look at the other symlink problems anytime soon. You know, there are many bugs in each software and we have to solve them by priorities. This problem affects only few users, workaround exists... I am sorry for the inconvenience. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
Petr Mladek wrote: On Thursday 11 October 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: The directory /usr/share/ooo-2.2/share/config does not exist (among others). But where does it come from? (The yast install from the repo did not keep the rpm's. I think that for 2.2 I d/l'ed them myself to my local repo let yast take it from there. I am beginning to suspect more and more that there are some directory structure differences between 2.2 and 2.3, and the best bet might be a complete uninstall, cleanup and re-install. The package OOo-2.3 is split into more pieces. The noarch stuff is moved to /usr/share. The missing files are in the package OpenOffice_org-icon-themes, see http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_10.2/noarch/OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-5.1.noarch.rpm It is strange. There is hard dependency on this package from the main package OpenOffice_org. Anyway, could you please check if you have it installed? If it is installed and the problem persists, could you please try the following? rpm -V OpenOffice_org-icon-themes rpm -qil OpenOffice_org-icon-themes I am sorry, I should have asked you to check this package in the beginning. I was mixed by your answer that all packages are installed... The package is installed. The current version is 2.3.0.1.2-5.1 and the rpm -qil output is Name: OpenOffice_org-icon-themes Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.3.0.1.2 Vendor: openSUSE Build Service Release : 5.1 Build Date: Wed 10 Oct 2007 06:39:04 AM IST Install Date: Sat 13 Oct 2007 09:01:43 PM IST Build Host: build15 Group : Productivity/Office/Suite Source RPM: OpenOffice_org-i18n-2.3.0.1.2-5.1.src.rpm Size: 24362053 License: GPL v2 or later, LGPL v2 or later, The non-standard licenses from /usr/lib/ooo-2.0/THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html: Signature : DSA/SHA1, Wed 10 Oct 2007 06:54:59 AM IST, Key ID 3b3011b76b9d6523 URL : http://www.openoffice.org/ Summary : Icon Themes for OpenOffice.org Description : This package provides various icon themes for the OpenOffice.org office suite. Distribution: OpenOffice.org:STABLE / openSUSE_10.2 /usr/share/ooo-2.0 /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share/config /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share/config/images.zip /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share/config/images_crystal.zip /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share/config/images_hicontrast.zip /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share/config/images_industrial.zip /usr/share/ooo-2.0/share/config/images_tango.zip And now I can see have solved the problem: In /usr/lib, I have /usr/lib/ooo-2.2 and a symlink /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 pointing to the 2.2. It seems to want .../ooo-2.0 all the way. In /usr/share I found an ooo subdir and a ooo-2.0 subdir. I moved whatever was in ooo ro ooo-2.0 and replaced it with a symlink, just in case something needs it. All this mix up dates back to a long solved fonts problem with V2.1 or 2.2, which necessitated keeping 2 versions around until it was fixed. Thanks for your help - and what a grind. Even with my symlinks, things like this should just not happen. Regards Daniel begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel adr:;;POB 36;Shavei Shomron;Doar Na;44858;ISRAEL email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;pager:Skype user ID: baba_danny tel;home:972 9 8320939 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice - 2.3. Issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petr Mladek wrote: Hello G T, On Wednesday 10 October 2007, G T Smith wrote: All, Because the OpenSuse and cifs issue resurfaced in my old copy of 2.0.x decided to give 2.3 a whirl Big mistake Installation managed to transpose home directory in front of my defined Document path... (thought oh what the hell and changed it to what it should be)... Then found that it was helpfully changing this in some of the template macros (thought oh what the hell and changed that to what it should be)... now find that a particular function is generating an exception in the template macro... (thought oh [EMAIL PROTECTED] )... Do you know what macro caused this? It is a particular problem with a function call, the function failing is thiscomponent.storeAsURl with an unspecified exception, the values being passed to seem to be OK (now)... The template concerned is a little old so it could be that the call has changed somewhere along the line or the function has been depreciated... (Been meaning to tweak this template so I can use it from both Windows and Linux platforms without having two distinct copies for some time anyway) Saving to the cifs mount was slow with 2.0.0 but worked with OpenOffice documents, need to save a copy in Word format and the unable to create a backup copy problem did a revisit. On 2.3.x seems to crash rather than just be slow... At the moment not exploring this much further as I do not really want to spend much time working with this right now, but others should be warned I have found one note about this at http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Troubleshooting#OpenOffice_documents_do_not_open_when_browsing They suggest to avoid the underscore _ in the host name. I am not sure if it is your case. Nope, not close..., Anyway, could you please report it into bugzilla? I also need to establish whether this is really cifs related or not, and I will report back in more detail when I have got more info... if cifs is definitely involved I probably need to review my samba configuration, as it is possible adjustments made to deal with 2.0.0 problems may be causing problems now with the new version (i.e. the original problem has been fixed :-) )...(however I cannot remember what exactly I did :-)... whatever it was it worked till now) I am working on something else at the moment, and not really in the position to give this the attention it deserves. I will raise it in bugzilla once I have something more concrete to report, and I am certain its nothing that I doing which is causing the problem...as no one else is reporting a similar issue I think the latter is quite likely... if anyone else is having this problem hopefully they will make themselves known and I will raise with the little info I have... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHD50TasN0sSnLmgIRApWZAJ4+uwEKvcpOAVebvz/7ENpt+ZWDQgCgwTWO hv5Q3n3SOoxr+Or/P6BkVtI= =RMPL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice - 2.3. Issues
Hello G T, On Wednesday 10 October 2007, G T Smith wrote: All, Because the OpenSuse and cifs issue resurfaced in my old copy of 2.0.x decided to give 2.3 a whirl Big mistake Installation managed to transpose home directory in front of my defined Document path... (thought oh what the hell and changed it to what it should be)... Then found that it was helpfully changing this in some of the template macros (thought oh what the hell and changed that to what it should be)... now find that a particular function is generating an exception in the template macro... (thought oh [EMAIL PROTECTED] )... Do you know what macro caused this? Saving to the cifs mount was slow with 2.0.0 but worked with OpenOffice documents, need to save a copy in Word format and the unable to create a backup copy problem did a revisit. On 2.3.x seems to crash rather than just be slow... At the moment not exploring this much further as I do not really want to spend much time working with this right now, but others should be warned I have found one note about this at http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Troubleshooting#OpenOffice_documents_do_not_open_when_browsing They suggest to avoid the underscore _ in the host name. I am not sure if it is your case. Anyway, could you please report it into bugzilla? -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
Petr Mladek wrote: Hi Daniel, On Friday 28 September 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Do you still have the problem? If yes, could you please send me the strace log? cd /usr/lib64/ooo-2.0/program # or /usr/lib/... with 32-bit OOo strace -o /tmp/strace.log -f -tt -s 512 ./soffice.bin bzip2 /tmp/strace.log You need to use strace32 if you have 32-bit OOo on 64-bit system. I still have the problem - but I may not be able to do much until the end of this week. BTW, I had considered completely uninstalling and then re-installing - but I'll put it off until trying strace. I'm using 32 bit on a 32 bit machine. Regards, Daniel begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel adr:;;POB 36;Shavei Shomron;Doar Na;44858;ISRAEL email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;pager:Skype user ID: baba_danny tel;home:972 9 8320939 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
On Wednesday 03 October 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Petr Mladek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-03-07 14:36]: On Saturday 29 September 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote: With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!! Do you still have the problem? I believe that he has. He was not aware of the splitting of the different parts of the OpenOffice_org package. MOST of us were not. When MAJOR changes, as this was, are made to packages, these changes need to be broadcast in prominent locations, such as this list. This was not and is not regularly done. The knowledge only becomes available after many people have many problems with a package that used to just work. I agree. I should have announced such a change. Please consider this for future changes. tks, Sure. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
On Wednesday 03 October 2007, Gabriel . wrote: 2007/10/3, Petr Mladek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see that Stefan Dirsch has submitted a fix for this bug today, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245711 Just to know, will this patch included as a security update for 10.3? Yes, there should be an update for 10.3, according to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245711#c64 -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 03 October 2007 18:43, Carlos E. R. wrote: I will probably be installing 10.3 very soon. First, what do I have to do to make OO work like it always did. Second, what do I have to do to keep There should not be any problem with OOo during the system update. The optional packages are installed there because of patterns... -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Yes... this is exactly how it happens to me... no matter which menu item I select. I guess File is the one we use most and that's why it has been pointed out as the one to blame :-) Connectivity doesn't seem to affected here either, as I can ssh into the machine at a very fast speed and response time I'll also try to access the menu items using keyboard shortcuts as Brad suggests... let's see what happens. Cheers Martin - Original Message From: Brad Bourn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 6:19:06 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system I have been seeing this problem for a long time. For me, it is only ever triggered when I click on a menu item. Mostly the File menu item. However, as I read this comment, I froze it up on the Tools menu, as suggested. I have nVidia driver (commercial), using Twinview with an amd_64 running the generic version of OOo (not a specific SuSE version). This has been happening with upgrades of SuSE, OOo, and nVidia. Nothing seems to handle it. From watching this thread, I'm suspect of non-SuSE versions. The system doesn't actually freeze though. You (I) can connect via ssh, and see that what is happened is that the Xorg thread is using all CPU making keyboard, etc. un-responsive. ssh session seems to be full speed though. All I ever have to do is kill -s 09 Xorg (from another PC, ssh'ed into frozen machine) and system comes back. Interesting part is that when I re-open the OOo calc sheet, the recovery wizard comes up, and shows documents that I ~had~ closed that it must have thought was still open. I'm going to try and only access the menu items with keyboard shortcuts, instead of mouse clicks. I'm suspect that it is the original click on the menu item (not even enough time for 'release' of mouse) that is causing Xorg to loop, blocking other processes. B-) On Wednesday 03 October 2007 3:38 am, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 09:13 +0100, Kevin Donnelly wrote: OOo froze pretty consistently here, on 10.2 with the NVidia 100.14.11 drivers. It did that with the original install version (2.0.4), and also with the 2.3.0 version - it happened only an hour ago this morning (foolish me - I thought I'd try it again, just to see), and required a hard reboot. OOo has some 3D effects: try dissabling them. I guess they use some vdeo card gadgetry. Otherwise, try using the open driver instead of the closed source one. Look at OOo / Tools / 3D view: use open GL, dithering, refresh, and specially hardware acceleration. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Onsdag 03 oktober 2007 07:46 kvad Basil Chupin: thanks for your reply. I also have a nVidia card both at home and at work with, apparently, the latest drivers... could it be the problem? Is this then related to OpenOffice or to nVidia?? I've never had anything BUT nVidia cards; I am running 10.2 and I am not having a single problem with OO (of any flavour or version). No OOo broblems here. OpenSUSE 10.2 (x86/32 bit) + Nvidia GeForce 7300LE + the distro's standard OOo (2.0.4). Best regards :o) Johnny :o) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
I was running OO 2.0 (the default version) on my SUSE 10.0 system. In tracking down a problem with Master Documents, I upgraded to 2.3. Works nicely, but now when I click on an attachment in the Thunderbird mail program (say, .doc or .xls) the default is to Save, and selecting Open with produces the error: filename.xls could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. I can't find a place to change it, and besides .doc and .xls files (and I assume .ppt) automatically open just fine from the desktop. Just not from within Thunderbird. Curiously, I seem to recall both .doc files and .xls files opening correctly before the upgrade, but only .doc files are mentioned in the Download Actions preference dialog. Fiddling there seems like a kludge, anyway, since it was working before without that. Any suggestions as to how to address the above? TIA, ds -- Dennis E. Slice Department of Anthropology University of Vienna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
Dennis E. Slice schreef: filename.xls could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. I can't find a place to change it, and besides .doc and .xls files (and I assume .ppt) automatically open just fine from the desktop. Just not from within Thunderbird. In TB: EditPreferencesAttachmentsViewEdit actions or something like that, since I'm backtranslating the Dutch translations. :-) The file associations that TB uses are not linked to those of KDE (or Gnome) which is what you see on your desktop. Regards, -- Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 06:46, Basil Chupin wrote: I also have a nVidia card both at home and at work with, apparently, the latest drivers... could it be the problem? Is this then related to OpenOffice or to nVidia?? I've never had anything BUT nVidia cards; I am running 10.2 and I am not having a single problem with OO (of any flavour or version). OOo froze pretty consistently here, on 10.2 with the NVidia 100.14.11 drivers. It did that with the original install version (2.0.4), and also with the 2.3.0 version - it happened only an hour ago this morning (foolish me - I thought I'd try it again, just to see), and required a hard reboot. I'm now avoiding OOo indefinitely in favour of KOffice, which is lighter and easier to use anyway - I'm pretty impressed with it. I advise others with this problem to do the same. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
Jos van Kan wrote: Dennis E. Slice schreef: filename.xls could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. I can't find a place to change it, and besides .doc and .xls files (and I assume .ppt) automatically open just fine from the desktop. Just not from within Thunderbird. In TB: EditPreferencesAttachmentsViewEdit actions or something like that, since I'm backtranslating the Dutch translations. :-) The file associations that TB uses are not linked to those of KDE (or Gnome) which is what you see on your desktop. Regards, Thanks for the speedy reply, but that's not quite it. Following the trail you suggest, I get to the action for .doc files is currently: Open them with the default application: This worked before 2.3, so what I think I need to do is change the default application whatever that is and wherever it may be. I don't think it is the KDE default app since the files open automatically from the Desktop. -dslice -- Dennis E. Slice Department of Anthropology University of Vienna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Onsdag 03 oktober 2007 10:13 kvad Kevin Donnelly: On Wednesday 03 October 2007 06:46, Basil Chupin wrote: I also have a nVidia card both at home and at work with, apparently, the latest drivers... could it be the problem? Is this then related to OpenOffice or to nVidia?? I've never had anything BUT nVidia cards; I am running 10.2 and I am not having a single problem with OO (of any flavour or version). OOo froze pretty consistently here, on 10.2 with the NVidia 100.14.11 drivers. It did that with the original install version (2.0.4), and also with the 2.3.0 version - it happened only an hour ago this morning (foolish me - I thought I'd try it again, just to see), and required a hard reboot. Ah. If it hasn't been said already, then it could be an issue with the NVidia driver. Mine is 100.14.09, and I have no OOo problems (OOo 2.0.4). Have you tried downgrading your NVidia driver? Best regards :o) Johnny :o) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
Basil Chupin wrote: ..snip... OO is now separated into various modules which you install depending on whether you need a particular application -- eg, if you want to use the Writer then you install this module, or if you want to use the Database then install the database module. Also, you need to install the modules which handle the icons, the themes, and so on. Cheers. I installed everything, and everything works outside of Thunderbird. Thnx, ds -- Dennis E. Slice Department of Anthropology University of Vienna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 09:13 +0100, Kevin Donnelly wrote: OOo froze pretty consistently here, on 10.2 with the NVidia 100.14.11 drivers. It did that with the original install version (2.0.4), and also with the 2.3.0 version - it happened only an hour ago this morning (foolish me - I thought I'd try it again, just to see), and required a hard reboot. OOo has some 3D effects: try dissabling them. I guess they use some vdeo card gadgetry. Otherwise, try using the open driver instead of the closed source one. Look at OOo / Tools / 3D view: use open GL, dithering, refresh, and specially hardware acceleration. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHA2M5tTMYHG2NR9URAn00AJ9eXzzX9w+TNRgQAmgIwKOj808mVQCeJQ1s NkR1YyBKRQiD7+Q3yPwcDas= =DADn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 04:30 -0400, Dennis E. Slice wrote: In TB: EditPreferencesAttachmentsViewEdit actions ... Thanks for the speedy reply, but that's not quite it. Following the trail you suggest, I get to the action for .doc files is currently: Open them with the default application: This worked before 2.3, so what I think I need to do is change the default application whatever that is and wherever it may be. I don't think it is the KDE default app since the files open automatically from the Desktop. Then have a look at the mailcap files: ~/.mailcap and /etc/mailcap. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHA2PatTMYHG2NR9URAhrdAJ9nlVrn/svZFjjXQhtaeKo1gOPKZACeJJNU 3S2U0u+u4mV2UsRVWEkfyds= =RFP2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Openwith
Dennis E. Slice schreef: Thanks for the speedy reply, but that's not quite it. Following the trail you suggest, I get to the action for .doc files is currently: Open them with the default application: This worked before 2.3, so what I think I need to do is change the default application whatever that is and wherever it may be. I don't think it is the KDE default app since the files open automatically from the Desktop. You'd have to change that action (open it with your brand new oowriter instead of the default application) and point it to where OOwriter now resides, which is probably in a different location from what TB thinks. I repeat that KDE has nothing to do with it, since TB and KDE are not related. The default application is the TB default appication. Regards, -- Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:38, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 09:13 +0100, Kevin Donnelly wrote: OOo froze pretty consistently here, on 10.2 with the NVidia 100.14.11 drivers. It did that with the original install version (2.0.4), and also with the 2.3.0 version - it happened only an hour ago this morning (foolish me - I thought I'd try it again, just to see), and required a hard reboot. OOo has some 3D effects: try dissabling them. I guess they use some vdeo card gadgetry. Otherwise, try using the open driver instead of the closed source one. Look at OOo / Tools / 3D view: use open GL, dithering, refresh, and specially hardware acceleration. That's certainly interesting to know about, but I'm not going to risk another reboot, particularly when KOffice works fine :-) And Johnny's suggestion of a driver downgrade might also have merit, but I'm too lazy to try it ... -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 04:30 -0400, Dennis E. Slice wrote: In TB: EditPreferencesAttachmentsViewEdit actions ... Thanks for the speedy reply, but that's not quite it. Following the trail you suggest, I get to the action for .doc files is currently: Open them with the default application: This worked before 2.3, so what I think I need to do is change the default application whatever that is and wherever it may be. I don't think it is the KDE default app since the files open automatically from the Desktop. Then have a look at the mailcap files: ~/.mailcap and /etc/mailcap. No local .mailcap, and the /etc/mailcap doesn't appear to have anything relevant to msword and doc files. -ds -- Dennis E. Slice Department of Anthropology University of Vienna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Open with
Dennis E. Slice wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 04:30 -0400, Dennis E. Slice wrote: In TB: EditPreferencesAttachmentsViewEdit actions ... Thanks for the speedy reply, but that's not quite it. Following the trail you suggest, I get to the action for .doc files is currently: Open them with the default application: This worked before 2.3, so what I think I need to do is change the default application whatever that is and wherever it may be. I don't think it is the KDE default app since the files open automatically from the Desktop. Then have a look at the mailcap files: ~/.mailcap and /etc/mailcap. No local .mailcap, and the /etc/mailcap doesn't appear to have anything relevant to msword and doc files. Start Konqueror file manager and right-click on a *.doc file. What is shown in the menu which comes up re which app is to be used to open/read the *.doc file? -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Openwith
Jos van Kan wrote: Dennis E. Slice schreef: Thanks for the speedy reply, but that's not quite it. Following the trail you suggest, I get to the action for .doc files is currently: Open them with the default application: This worked before 2.3, so what I think I need to do is change the default application whatever that is and wherever it may be. I don't think it is the KDE default app since the files open automatically from the Desktop. You'd have to change that action (open it with your brand new oowriter instead of the default application) and point it to where OOwriter now resides, which is probably in a different location from what TB thinks. I repeat that KDE has nothing to do with it, since TB and KDE are not related. The default application is the TB default appication. Regards, Okay, that worked ... a little. I can explicitly specify /usr/bin/openoffice.org2.3 or /etc/openoffice.org2.3/program/soffice or swriter and .doc files will be opened. But, that does not change the TB default app for such files - a new window now opens briefly before the file is opened and the Action preference page shows the separate, explicit, nondefault specification of one of the above, soffice, etc. That might be fine, except... I see know way to add XLS or any other extensions as a supported file type. The only ones listed are: DOC JPG PDF and ASC. Buttons support: Remove Action, Change Action, but no Add/New Action. They must be coming from somewhere else. -ds -- Dennis E. Slice Department of Anthropology University of Vienna -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 12:59, Richard Creighton wrote: *this* is the epitome of the Linux mentality vs the Windows mentality being demonstrated graphically.With Windows, you reboot to cure everything, to install anything, to reset everything, to reclaim leaking memory, someone sneezed. With Linux, to reboot is almost like selling your soul to the devil, something done only when replacing the motherboard or a memory stick or a sunspot induced power failure :) Hehe - I don't know whether this is praise or scorn :-) The main reason for not rebooting is that I usually have about 50 windows open, and reopening them all is a pain . Re Basil's point, this is a nVidia GeForce 7600 GT. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 upgrade broke Thunderbird default Openwith
Dennis E. Slice schreef: But, that does not change the TB default app for such files - a new window now opens briefly before the file is opened and the Action preference page shows the separate, explicit, nondefault specification of one of the above, soffice, etc. That might be fine, except... I see know way to add XLS or any other extensions as a supported file type. The only ones listed are: DOC JPG PDF and ASC. Buttons support: Remove Action, Change Action, but no Add/New Action. They must be coming from somewhere else. Yes that's a design error in TB. (sort of) Send yourself an attached .xls file and open it in TB. You get a dialog box asking you what to do with it and there you can choose open it with oocalc. You also can check a box Always perform this action with this kind of file and from that moment on Bob is your uncle. No doubt the philosophy of the TB designers is that you shouldn't worry about attached .xls files as long as you don't get them. They have a point there. :-) Regards, -- Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 12:29 +0100, Kevin Donnelly wrote: Look at OOo / Tools / 3D view: use open GL, dithering, refresh, and specially hardware acceleration. That's certainly interesting to know about, but I'm not going to risk another reboot, particularly when KOffice works fine :-) And Johnny's suggestion of a driver downgrade might also have merit, but I'm too lazy to try it ... Ha! There goes the scientific spirit out by the window ;-P You could do the change before opening the other 49 windows. Or you could switch to the open version of the driver, that doesn't have hw accel, for a while, to do the change in OOo config. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHA7TYtTMYHG2NR9URAhiSAJ42PQicAq6TM8ROw0XNRehHtiAw4QCfQqWr MpGOPE+vfKeOYAmoQbT8/KM= =NmE5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
Hello Fred, On Saturday 29 September 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote: With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!! Do you still have the problem? -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Nate Pearlstein wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 06:27 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: There is a bugzilla open on this, 245711. I see that Stefan Dirsch has submitted a fix for this bug today, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245711 -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
Hi Daniel, On Friday 28 September 2007, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Do you still have the problem? If yes, could you please send me the strace log? cd /usr/lib64/ooo-2.0/program # or /usr/lib/... with 32-bit OOo strace -o /tmp/strace.log -f -tt -s 512 ./soffice.bin bzip2 /tmp/strace.log You need to use strace32 if you have 32-bit OOo on 64-bit system. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice questions
On Friday 28 September 2007, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 09/28/2007 03:10 AM, Petr Mladek wrote: There were still some important issues in the 64-bit OOo when we released openSUSE-10.2. The recent 64-bit versions are in a very good shape. Will 10.3 x86_64 ship with the 64 bit version of OpenOffice? Yes, it will. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Petr Mladek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-03-07 14:36]: On Saturday 29 September 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote: With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!! Do you still have the problem? I believe that he has. He was not aware of the splitting of the different parts of the OpenOffice_org package. MOST of us were not. When MAJOR changes, as this was, are made to packages, these changes need to be broadcast in prominent locations, such as this list. This was not and is not regularly done. The knowledge only becomes available after many people have many problems with a package that used to just work. Please consider this for future changes. tks, - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHA+P7ClSjbQz1U5oRAsJ8AJwNnLJUIPCuupFFAjLCS24QUYN0uQCeNtuq U2V4lAXCGEz8gB/zzWdR9kw= =BTRT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
2007/10/3, Petr Mladek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see that Stefan Dirsch has submitted a fix for this bug today, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245711 Just to know, will this patch included as a security update for 10.3? Regards. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 14:48 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: I believe that he has. He was not aware of the splitting of the different parts of the OpenOffice_org package. MOST of us were not. When MAJOR changes, as this was, are made to packages, these changes need to be broadcast in prominent locations, such as this list. This was not and is not regularly done. The knowledge only becomes available after many people have many problems with a package that used to just work. The list is not enough: many people think of asking somewhere, after they get the problem. It would be better if the installer gave some warning, like a popup, same as the kernel does. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHBBsStTMYHG2NR9URAkvTAJ0UMtdVkYIw6gP3I95+8Z6KSJ1GmgCfR3Uh 4H+QlgqwUsm9eF9ilrjyUYI= =ADZe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-03-07 18:51]: The list is not enough: agreed, definitely! but it's a start :^) many people think of asking somewhere, after they get the problem. It would be better if the installer gave some warning, like a popup, same as the kernel does. this is a VERY good idea! - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHBCLmClSjbQz1U5oRAj48AJ41WoU3Sfb92XnJxmh66gLSxkmcTQCePUWB 15fkjfbdtkggNzNiiVjg0Rg= =Lhnj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 18:43, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Wednesday 2007-10-03 at 14:48 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: I believe that he has. He was not aware of the splitting of the different parts of the OpenOffice_org package. MOST of us were not. When MAJOR changes, as this was, are made to packages, these changes need to be broadcast in prominent locations, such as this list. This was not and is not regularly done. The knowledge only becomes available after many people have many problems with a package that used to just work. The list is not enough: many people think of asking somewhere, after they get the problem. It would be better if the installer gave some warning, like a popup, same as the kernel does. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. I will probably be installing 10.3 very soon. First, what do I have to do to make OO work like it always did. Second, what do I have to do to keep the files that I downloaded onto 9.3 from KMail, short of recording them to a CD or DVD, if that that not possible? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Doug McGarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-03-07 20:30]: I will probably be installing 10.3 very soon. First, what do I have to do to make OO work like it always did. ?? If you mean dl'ing and install, the packages have been split as discussed on *this* list in the last 10 days. Either search the archives for the listing or install webpin and do a search for OpenOffice_org for 10.3. Second, what do I have to do to keep the files that I downloaded onto 9.3 from KMail, short of recording them to a CD or DVD, if that that not possible? Move them to a partition on your hard drive that you will not allow to be formatted/over-written during install. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn4472 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHBEJxClSjbQz1U5oRAnPzAKCh5ZGGRvNkA1w5fEgLMdeE1vHPPgCaAxmY VwjMiseIoHCnzdocHGWfzMo= =oQny -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Sorry... I use OpenSuSE 10.2 so far. Cheers Martin - Original Message From: Kevin Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSuSE opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:23:35 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system You didn't mention which version on SUSE you were using, but I agree that 10.2 specifically seemed unstable. On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 07:56 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: Hi all, since some days ago I have to create more documentation as part of my work but I'm experimenting something *very* annoying with OpenOffice, specially the first time it's launched although it might also happen (at random?) after the 2nd or 3rd run: the system completely freezes. Even the keyboard is 100% dead; the caps-lock or num-lock don't even work either, and the only way to get it back to life is by restarting it... so everything is lost and I must start over. These are the OpenOffice packages on my system now (the same applies for the one at home): --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514 --- This happens with all kind of document formats and for a nerd like me who (almost) uses the 20 desktops it's a good way to learn and use new bad words when everything disappears on this end... Anyway, I also noticed that the recent versions of OpenSuSE are rather more unstable (I'm a SuSE'r since version 5.3 IIRC)... this could be labeled just as a personal perception if I were using OpenSuSE in only one system but I have it installed in more than one modern system (i.e. dual-core CPU -both AMD and Intel- , xx GB of RAM, big SATA-2 hard disks, etc) at home and at work... Unfortunately I can't tell you a way to reproduce the problem so please bear with me... and therefore I wanted to ask here if someone has been experimenting such annoyances as well and what, if any, solutions can be applied to get rid of them. As usual, thanks in advance for your time! Best regards, Martin Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 06:27 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: Sorry... I use OpenSuSE 10.2 so far. Cheers Martin - Original Message From: Kevin Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSuSE opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:23:35 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system You didn't mention which version on SUSE you were using, but I agree that 10.2 specifically seemed unstable. On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 07:56 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: Hi all, since some days ago I have to create more documentation as part of my work but I'm experimenting something *very* annoying with OpenOffice, specially the first time it's launched although it might also happen (at random?) after the 2nd or 3rd run: the system completely freezes. Even the keyboard is 100% dead; the caps-lock or num-lock don't even work either, and the only way to get it back to life is by restarting it... so everything is lost and I must start over. These are the OpenOffice packages on my system now (the same applies for the one at home): --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514 --- This happens with all kind of document formats and for a nerd like me who (almost) uses the 20 desktops it's a good way to learn and use new bad words when everything disappears on this end... Anyway, I also noticed that the recent versions of OpenSuSE are rather more unstable (I'm a SuSE'r since version 5.3 IIRC)... this could be labeled just as a personal perception if I were using OpenSuSE in only one system but I have it installed in more than one modern system (i.e. dual-core CPU -both AMD and Intel- , xx GB of RAM, big SATA-2 hard disks, etc) at home and at work... Unfortunately I can't tell you a way to reproduce the problem so please bear with me... and therefore I wanted to ask here if someone has been experimenting such annoyances as well and what, if any, solutions can be applied to get rid of them. As usual, thanks in advance for your time! There is a bugzilla open on this, 245711. The work around that has been working for me is, after the machine starts and I first log in, I launch one of the open office programs. It doesn't seem to matter which one. Then I go to any one of the menu items so that the menu appears. After that I leave it running, never quit. So far I have not had the machine freeze. The problem seems to effect systems with nvidia cards the most. I don't speak for SGI or Novell in this forum. Just relating my personal experience. -- Sent from my wired giant hulking workstation Nate Pearlstein - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Product Support Engineer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Hi Nate, thanks for your reply. I also have a nVidia card both at home and at work with, apparently, the latest drivers... could it be the problem? Is this then related to OpenOffice or to nVidia?? Cheers, Martin - Original Message From: Nate Pearlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSuSE opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:36:54 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 06:27 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: Sorry... I use OpenSuSE 10.2 so far. Cheers Martin - Original Message From: Kevin Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenSuSE opensuse@opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:23:35 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system You didn't mention which version on SUSE you were using, but I agree that 10.2 specifically seemed unstable. On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 07:56 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: Hi all, since some days ago I have to create more documentation as part of my work but I'm experimenting something *very* annoying with OpenOffice, specially the first time it's launched although it might also happen (at random?) after the 2nd or 3rd run: the system completely freezes. Even the keyboard is 100% dead; the caps-lock or num-lock don't even work either, and the only way to get it back to life is by restarting it... so everything is lost and I must start over. These are the OpenOffice packages on my system now (the same applies for the one at home): --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514 --- This happens with all kind of document formats and for a nerd like me who (almost) uses the 20 desktops it's a good way to learn and use new bad words when everything disappears on this end... Anyway, I also noticed that the recent versions of OpenSuSE are rather more unstable (I'm a SuSE'r since version 5.3 IIRC)... this could be labeled just as a personal perception if I were using OpenSuSE in only one system but I have it installed in more than one modern system (i.e. dual-core CPU -both AMD and Intel- , xx GB of RAM, big SATA-2 hard disks, etc) at home and at work... Unfortunately I can't tell you a way to reproduce the problem so please bear with me... and therefore I wanted to ask here if someone has been experimenting such annoyances as well and what, if any, solutions can be applied to get rid of them. As usual, thanks in advance for your time! There is a bugzilla open on this, 245711. The work around that has been working for me is, after the machine starts and I first log in, I launch one of the open office programs. It doesn't seem to matter which one. Then I go to any one of the menu items so that the menu appears. After that I leave it running, never quit. So far I have not had the machine freeze. The problem seems to effect systems with nvidia cards the most. I don't speak for SGI or Novell in this forum. Just relating my personal experience. -- Sent from my wired giant hulking workstation Nate Pearlstein - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Product Support Engineer Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Martin Mielke wrote: Hi Nate, thanks for your reply. I also have a nVidia card both at home and at work with, apparently, the latest drivers... could it be the problem? Is this then related to OpenOffice or to nVidia?? Cheers, Martin I've never had anything BUT nVidia cards; I am running 10.2 and I am not having a single problem with OO (of any flavour or version). Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
Hi all, since some days ago I have to create more documentation as part of my work but I'm experimenting something *very* annoying with OpenOffice, specially the first time it's launched although it might also happen (at random?) after the 2nd or 3rd run: the system completely freezes. Even the keyboard is 100% dead; the caps-lock or num-lock don't even work either, and the only way to get it back to life is by restarting it... so everything is lost and I must start over. These are the OpenOffice packages on my system now (the same applies for the one at home): --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514 --- This happens with all kind of document formats and for a nerd like me who (almost) uses the 20 desktops it's a good way to learn and use new bad words when everything disappears on this end... Anyway, I also noticed that the recent versions of OpenSuSE are rather more unstable (I'm a SuSE'r since version 5.3 IIRC)... this could be labeled just as a personal perception if I were using OpenSuSE in only one system but I have it installed in more than one modern system (i.e. dual-core CPU -both AMD and Intel- , xx GB of RAM, big SATA-2 hard disks, etc) at home and at work... Unfortunately I can't tell you a way to reproduce the problem so please bear with me... and therefore I wanted to ask here if someone has been experimenting such annoyances as well and what, if any, solutions can be applied to get rid of them. As usual, thanks in advance for your time! Best regards, Martin Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice freezes the system
You didn't mention which version on SUSE you were using, but I agree that 10.2 specifically seemed unstable. On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 07:56 -0700, Martin Mielke wrote: Hi all, since some days ago I have to create more documentation as part of my work but I'm experimenting something *very* annoying with OpenOffice, specially the first time it's launched although it might also happen (at random?) after the 2nd or 3rd run: the system completely freezes. Even the keyboard is 100% dead; the caps-lock or num-lock don't even work either, and the only way to get it back to life is by restarting it... so everything is lost and I must start over. These are the OpenOffice packages on my system now (the same applies for the one at home): --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep -i openoffice OpenOffice_org-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.2.1-43.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514 --- This happens with all kind of document formats and for a nerd like me who (almost) uses the 20 desktops it's a good way to learn and use new bad words when everything disappears on this end... Anyway, I also noticed that the recent versions of OpenSuSE are rather more unstable (I'm a SuSE'r since version 5.3 IIRC)... this could be labeled just as a personal perception if I were using OpenSuSE in only one system but I have it installed in more than one modern system (i.e. dual-core CPU -both AMD and Intel- , xx GB of RAM, big SATA-2 hard disks, etc) at home and at work... Unfortunately I can't tell you a way to reproduce the problem so please bear with me... and therefore I wanted to ask here if someone has been experimenting such annoyances as well and what, if any, solutions can be applied to get rid of them. As usual, thanks in advance for your time! Best regards, Martin Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry? Daniel Did you install the icon-themes package? Yes. I installed everything by picking the rpm's as per the previous thread. (Yast or rpm -qa | grep Office also shows it as installed.) In fact I did just that to install the previous version, 2.2 - without any problems. I'm going to try something drastic soon - log out, restart X c. Sometimes a reset helps ... begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel adr:;;POB 36;Shavei Shomron;Doar Na;44858;ISRAEL email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;pager:Skype user ID: baba_danny tel;home:972 9 8320939 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
JP Rosevear wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 13:09 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Daniel Feiglin wrote: Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry? Daniel Did you install the icon-themes package? Yes. I installed everything by picking the rpm's as per the previous thread. (Yast or rpm -qa | grep Office also shows it as installed.) In fact I did just that to install the previous version, 2.2 - without any problems. I'm going to try something drastic soon - log out, restart X c. Sometimes a reset helps ... It didn't help. The problem remains. Could be a problem not related to running SuSEconfig after install if you used smart or a tool that doesn't do that. -JP Nope. I installed using Yast Software Management. It always runs SuSEconfig. And by the way, a full reboot didn't help. D begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel adr:;;POB 36;Shavei Shomron;Doar Na;44858;ISRAEL email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;pager:Skype user ID: baba_danny tel;home:972 9 8320939 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 13:09 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Daniel Feiglin wrote: Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry? Daniel Did you install the icon-themes package? Yes. I installed everything by picking the rpm's as per the previous thread. (Yast or rpm -qa | grep Office also shows it as installed.) In fact I did just that to install the previous version, 2.2 - without any problems. I'm going to try something drastic soon - log out, restart X c. Sometimes a reset helps ... It didn't help. The problem remains. Could be a problem not related to running SuSEconfig after install if you used smart or a tool that doesn't do that. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
On 09/28/2007 10:14 PM, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Nope. I installed using Yast Software Management. It always runs SuSEconfig. And by the way, a full reboot didn't help. It looks and works great here, though I use the x86_64 version. Just to check, I have installed : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en-20060111-2.1 OpenOffice_org-calc-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-math-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-impress-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-letter-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter-1.0-514 OpenOffice_org-kde-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-2.0.4-25.1 OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-openclipart-2-3.1 OpenOffice_org-writer-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-draw-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-en-2.0.4-10 OpenOffice_org-hyphen-20070719-2.1 OpenOffice_org-pyuno-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-filters-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-templates-labels-a4-1.0-4.1 OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-2.3.0.1.2-5.1 OpenOffice_org-mailmerge-2.3.0.2-4.1 OpenOffice_org-base-2.3.0.2-4.1 I just upgraded to the latest in UNSTABLE to test a fix for a bug I reported some time ago. So nice to enjoy the fix. 2.3.0.1 worked fine as well for me. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Openoffice
With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!! Fred -- This message originated from a Linux computer using Open Source software: openSuSE Linux 10.2. No Gates, no Windowsjust Linux - STABLE SECURE! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
Fred A. Miller wrote: With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!! Fred Fred with oo2.3 you have to install each component you want. (i.e. writer, calc, etc...). Go to yast-software management and search 'openoffice' and all the pieces will show up. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice
Fred A. Miller wrote: With the recent update, I'm not getting calls that users can't even get into OO. I now have the same problem. 'Hope this gets fixed ASAP!! Fred Fred, Would you like to re-phrase what you just stated? :-) . Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice questions
I'm running OpenSuSE 10.2. I installed initially from the box DVD. Although I installed linux 64 it intalled OO 586. All the upgrades worked ok. Even I got one of the last ones with nice green gecko splahimage. The last upgrade broke the installation and I could not load OO. Then I saw a thread here and I went and I realized many of the necessary packages for OO were uninstalled. I reinstalled them and also this time I tried the 64 version of OO. Everything is working very well (build 2.3.0.1.2) Here the questions: 1. Why opensuse dvd install 586 initially when the OS version I was installing was 64? I assume it was not available at the time is that correct? 2. Will I miss anything using the 64 vs the 32 version of OO? 2. Why the green gecko image you see when you loaded is not there any more? Now is the boring blue one. I know those images are changed with new versions but the green gecko did not last very long. How can I get it back. Thxs -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-27 at 08:11 -0600, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: Here the questions: 1. Why opensuse dvd install 586 initially when the OS version I was installing was 64? I assume it was not available at the time is that correct? The 64 bit OOo is very much untested. You are supposed to test it, and then find and report the problems. There was a mail these days from the maintainer about that. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG+714tTMYHG2NR9URAgYNAJ9FVzgba1JUFTNF6SnDhnwsV/i/UwCggleH NTghEFGxr6DFyPmMWihlSN8= =wbZQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice questions
On 09/27/2007 10:11 PM, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: I'm running OpenSuSE 10.2. I installed initially from the box DVD. Although I installed linux 64 it intalled OO 586. All the upgrades worked ok. Even I got one of the last ones with nice green gecko splahimage. The last upgrade broke the installation and I could not load OO. Then I saw a thread here and I went and I realized many of the necessary packages for OO were uninstalled. I reinstalled them and also this time I tried the 64 version of OO. Everything is working very well (build 2.3.0.1.2) Here the questions: 1. Why opensuse dvd install 586 initially when the OS version I was installing was 64? I assume it was not available at the time is that correct? It was not stable enough. Check bugzilla for more info. 2. Will I miss anything using the 64 vs the 32 version of OO? Not sure exactly what you mean here. 2. Why the green gecko image you see when you loaded is not there any more? Now is the boring blue one. I know those images are changed with new versions but the green gecko did not last very long. How can I get it back. I believe it is just a file. openintro_suse.bmp in the program directory. BTW, here it is green. Do you mean you want the blue back? If so replace the above file with the old one. It is just a splash screen, only on the screen for a few seconds with 2.3 (nice job OO team). But this is Linux, where you can have it your way if you prefer. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice questions
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 16:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-27 at 08:11 -0600, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: Here the questions: 1. Why opensuse dvd install 586 initially when the OS version I was installing was 64? I assume it was not available at the time is that correct? The 64 bit OOo is very much untested. You are supposed to test it, and then find and report the problems. There was a mail these days from the maintainer about that. Carlos, Thxs. It seems to be working very well and also it feels faster at least to load. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice questions
On Thursday 27 September 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-27 at 08:11 -0600, Teruel de Campo MD wrote: Here the questions: 1. Why opensuse dvd install 586 initially when the OS version I was installing was 64? I assume it was not available at the time is that correct? The 64 bit OOo is very much untested. You are supposed to test it, and then find and report the problems. There were still some important issues in the 64-bit OOo when we released openSUSE-10.2. The recent 64-bit versions are in a very good shape. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice questions
On 09/28/2007 03:10 AM, Petr Mladek wrote: There were still some important issues in the 64-bit OOo when we released openSUSE-10.2. The recent 64-bit versions are in a very good shape. Will 10.3 x86_64 ship with the 64 bit version of OpenOffice? -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
On 09/28/2007 07:52 AM, Daniel Feiglin wrote: Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry? Daniel Did you install the icon-themes package? -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3.0 - Where oh where has my icon gone?
Hello Folks! After following the thread on OpenOffice 2.3.0, I tried the install (upgrade of 2.2.x, o/s version10.2). It went fine and everything works ... except that all of the menu icons have disappeared and all you see is text in their place. Does anyone have any idea of what's gone awry? Daniel begin:vcard fn:Daniel Feiglin n:Feiglin;Daniel adr:;;POB 36;Shavei Shomron;Doar Na;44858;ISRAEL email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:972 9 8616204 tel;fax:972 9 8621052 tel;pager:Skype user ID: baba_danny tel;home:972 9 8320939 tel;cell:927 52 3869986 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, L. Mark Stone wrote: Petr, Thanks for taking care of all of this. Everything installed OK. One note: the NLD artwork still says version 2.1, even though this is version 2.3. Good point. I have asked our artwork maestro to provide updated pictures. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Hello, I am sorry for the late repply. I was busy with openSUSE-10.3. Then I was on the OOo conference, ... On Thursday 20 September 2007, James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? The packages based on OOo-2.3-final are included in openSUSE-10.3.rc1. I have updated the packages in the Build Service project yesterday, see http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/ -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thursday 20 September 2007, Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: 2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet. Having a release put off because 1 person doesn't have time is quite ridiculous. Any volunteer is welcome ;-) I would totally understand if the reasoning was because it is not considered fully tested / stable with Novell modifications, that would make more sense ,but to just have the release of a long anticipated OOo put off because someone doesn't have time just blows my mind.. I am afraid that OOo in the project OpenOffice_org:STABLE will always be a bit delayled after the upstream release because we need to stabilize the Novell (ooo-build) features. It might be even more delayed if there is an official openSUSE or SLED10 release around. Then the openSUSE or SLED10 release date is the right one for us... I would like to keep the OpenOffice_org:STABLE project really stable. I do not want to force people to download the big best every two weeks. So I really would like to wait for the final stabilized build and update it once per three months or so. This time, the upstream OOo and openSUSE release are very close. I do not plan any more fixes for 10.3. So, I have put OOo-2.3-based package in OpenOffice_org:STABLE yesterday. I might be wrong. People might want something else. I am open to discuss the schedules, ... -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thursday 20 September 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 12:53 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote: I understand that, but it is crazy that several days after the release openSUSE users don't have it in their Stable repository because one person doesn't have time to do so. And I don't understand why a version that has been put in the unstable repo can be upgraded to stable before a month has passed. The packages should get rebuilt automatically when I submit a new package to factory (currently for 10.3). It was disabled my mistake last two weeks. I have just enabled it again. If it goes well, also the unstable project should have the final packages tomorrow. I am sorry for the unnecessary delay. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Friday 21 September 2007, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: I just tried installing OO 2.3 from smart om a SUSE 10.0, and I get this: Can't install [EMAIL PROTECTED]: no package provides OpenOffice_org-hyphen Indeed, an rpm -i --test reveals a need for these packages, which I do not see: OpenOffice_org-hyphen is needed by OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1 OpenOffice_org-thesaurus-en is needed by OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-22.1 I did not see them in 10.0 or 10.2. I could very well be blind... They were really missing. It should be fixed now. Search them in the noarch tree. I am sorry for the inconvenience. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.2 update
On Thursday 20 September 2007, Chris Arnold wrote: I am using OO 2.1 novell edition on SLED SP1 and i want to upgrade to OO 2.2 from opensuse repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/SLED_10/i5 86/ My question is, out of all the files in that repo, which ones do i need to update to have a working OO 2.2? In theory, you need to select only the main package OpenOffice_org for update. The others should get updated automatically when needed. Actually, I have not tested it much, ... Another approach is to search for all the OpenOffice_org* packages and update the already installed. Note that the current OOo-2.3-based packages are split into more optional subpackages. You might need to select in addition: OpenOffice_org-base OpenOffice_org-calc OpenOffice_org-draw OpenOffice_org-impress OpenOffice_org-math OpenOffice_org-writer OpenOffice_org-filters OpenOffice_org-mailmerge They are recommended by the main package, so they should get installed by default. There might be problems on the older distributions, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=328171 -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Petr, Thanks for taking care of all of this. Everything installed OK. One note: the NLD artwork still says version 2.1, even though this is version 2.3. All the best, Mark - Original Message - From: Petr Mladek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse@opensuse.org Cc: Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:04:19 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3 On Thursday 20 September 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 12:53 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote: I understand that, but it is crazy that several days after the release openSUSE users don't have it in their Stable repository because one person doesn't have time to do so. And I don't understand why a version that has been put in the unstable repo can be upgraded to stable before a month has passed. The packages should get rebuilt automatically when I submit a new package to factory (currently for 10.3). It was disabled my mistake last two weeks. I have just enabled it again. If it goes well, also the unstable project should have the final packages tomorrow. I am sorry for the unnecessary delay. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Another Message From... L. Mark Stone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-25 at 19:56 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: I would like to keep the OpenOffice_org:STABLE project really stable. I do not want to force people to download the big best every two weeks. So I really would like to wait for the final stabilized build and update it once per three months or so. I agree with that. I want to keep reasonably updated, but I also want to have the more stable version possible. If I wanted bleeding edge, I would install the unstable branch instead. So, update it on a three month period or whenever you think it is stable enough. I might be wrong. People might want something else. I am open to discuss the schedules, ... Well, there you have an opinion :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG+VPntTMYHG2NR9URAnUjAJsH5OnOFpGRcrv8Wh8pjBhmG0f1iACgj318 JLOenbIGp94aRm+EI/thd8I= =VoIV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
