Re: [opensuse-factory] 7/8 DVDs???
On Friday, 24. November 2006 06:58, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: The size of the 86 DVDs dropped from 4GB to 3.5GB from beta2 to rc1. Where did the half gigabyte go? The content of the Addon-Lang CD is not anymore included in the DVD iso. Bye, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?
Jens Herden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just checked on my system here: $ applydeltaiso openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-i386.iso \ openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso new.iso ... ttf-alee.noarch (bzip): applying delta xfntkr.noarch (bzip): applying delta iso sucessfully re-created, md5sum: 23fa2fcdfcb2f929b8320ca60ca9330a 7c19b77741b6232ff56f52c5fa1f32e1 openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang-i386.iso c9ac1860fd376a20f5afb4b5bcf4d526 openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso 23fa2fcdfcb2f929b8320ca60ca9330a new.iso Thanks for testing this. Here my md5sum's: 8433990542836e54b5897e4f33d6083b openSUSE-10.2-Beta2-Addon-Lang.iso c9ac1860fd376a20f5afb4b5bcf4d526 openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso So our delta is the same but the base not. I created the base from beta1 with the delta and _my_ md5sum is in the MD5SUM file on the ftp server. I wonder where you got your iso from? From the system that our folks used for building the deltas :-( - which means we really had two versions and the wrong one ended on the server. :-( What's the best plan here now? I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso and adding a README... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpBsiJQXW1QI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext2
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2006/11/23 21:33 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: We modularized ext2 Why? The kernel configure option for ext2 in 10.1 is: zgrep EXT2 /proc/config.gz CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y And in 10.2: CONFIG_EXT2_FS=m And that's all I meant with modularize. So, this means that those users that do not use ext2 as file system do not have to load the file system at all, it's an external module. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpyivo14WU4B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Non-OSS Add-Ons Don't Change
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, When I installed Beta1, Beta2 and now RC1 the installer keeps indicating that none of the packages from the non-OSS add-on CD are newer than what's installed. Is that actually true? If so, why are new disc images released every time? If not, why don't the updates register? I use the YaST Installation Source to refresh from the new disc each time. I just checked, beta2 had: acroread-7.0.8-17.i586.rpm flash-player-7.0.68.0-12.i586.rpm and RC1 has: acroread-7.0.8-21.i586.rpm flash-player-7.0.68.0-15.i586.rpm So, there's at least a difference - but we did not change them otherwise, it's just a build number increase. You should get those reinstalled - please investigate and consider filing a bugreport, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp4IUvj1CnTR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 install failure ( fix) on ASUS P5B Deluxe
rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boards that use the Intel P965 chipset have another chip for PATA support since no IDE support is included on the P965 chipset. On the P5BD (and some other boards), this chip is a Jmicron chip. If the Jmicron (there's a separate setting for the ICH8) is set to AHCI in the BIOS, CD1 will be recognized (if it is in a typical IDE CDROM drive on the PATA port), and the installation will start. However, it will soon be unable to find the CD it was reading from a moment before, and ask you to insert CD1 repeatedly. The fix is to back up to the menu choice that allows loading IDE drivers and load the pata_jmicron driver. Once that's done the installation will proceed normally. HTH someone... Please report this in bugzilla - not sure whether we can handle this at this point of time but let's at least try... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpe0grlphUYc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] 7/8 DVDs???
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The size of the 86 DVDs dropped from 4GB to 3.5GB from beta2 to rc1. Where did the half gigabyte go? The Language Addon has been removed, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpWmnV2yueCk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] 7/8 DVDs???
Hello, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: The content of the Addon-Lang CD is not anymore included in the DVD iso. Why is this so? Why did the Language got removed? Up to the versions beofre RC1, we had them. Do you now expect people of non-tier-1 to get a DVD AND a CD? Somewhere it was stated, that 85% of downloads belong to tier-1 languages, so it seems to be a logical decision for the download version. What I could not find an answer for: will the DVD9 in the box include tier-2 languages? I mean, here in Hungary many people bought boxed SUSE, as it had full support for Hungarian... Bye, -- CzP http://peter.czanik.hu/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?
On Friday 24 November 2006 10:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote: What's the best plan here now? I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso and adding a README... Can't you create a new delta iso which works against the version that is on the server (and gives as a result the RC1 that is on the server)? Andras -- Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org K Desktop Environment - http://www.kde.org pgp5pcCPvqYqe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?
What's the best plan here now? I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso and adding a README... Yes this should be done ASAP because others might start the download of the delta too. Maybe you could create also a new delta? Not that I am interested anymore, we just decided to download the full CD during the weekend but maybe others. Jens - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 install failure ( fix) on ASUS P5B Deluxe
rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boards that use the Intel P965 chipset have another chip for PATA support since no IDE support is included on the P965 chipset. On the P5BD (and some other boards), this chip is a Jmicron chip. I just saw the following going into our kernel build: Fri Nov 24 09:06:57 CET 2006 - patches.drivers/libata-fixup-pci-quirks-defines: JMicron ATA controler not correctly detected on ASUS P5B-VM (217930). So, I hope this is fixed for the goldmaster, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpk3oSa8FK4W.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] boot screen fun wiht RC1
Hi, I just installed RC1 fresh and observed some points at the boot screen of the bootloader I want to share. 1. I have had a broken display when I opened the language menu in beta2, this was fixed in RC1 :-) 2. I got a penguin running around. Nice but destructive, the painting is destroying the language menu when the penguin is running over it. Just a little ugly. You may need to know that my screen is detected as 800x600, if your screen is bigger you might not see this. 3. I could not find a way to add boot parameter anymore. Was this removed? I usually add a vga=0x305 because the installer is not detecting my screen. 4. After the installation the language menu is broken. I have installed openSuse in English only and I was expecting a menu entry English but I got en. I any of this worse a bug report? Jens - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 09:34:23AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: From the system that our folks used for building the deltas :-( - which means we really had two versions and the wrong one ended on the server. :-( What's the best plan here now? I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso and adding a README... It's not that easy. The delta is still useful for those that created the beta2 image from the beta1 image by the respective delta-iso because those have the _right_ image. Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur. pgphE6LhFnccb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?
On Friday 24 November 2006 16:25, Robert Schiele wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 09:34:23AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: From the system that our folks used for building the deltas :-( - which means we really had two versions and the wrong one ended on the server. :-( What's the best plan here now? I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso and adding a README... It's not that easy. The delta is still useful for those that created the beta2 image from the beta1 image by the respective delta-iso because those have the _right_ image. Strange, I did exactly this, why do you think I have a wrong image? The md5sum of my beta2 image was correct. So the problem is that the people who made the delta used the wrong base. Maybe you get confused with the different AddOn CDs. I am talking here about Addon-Lang, what you said might be about Addon-BiArch? There was indeed another problem. Jens P.S. I am subscribe, no need for private mails. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 7/8 DVDs???
The content of the Addon-Lang CD is not anymore included in the DVD iso. 1GB download bandwidth wasted... No, if there are only languages on the addon now than the split makes sense. I thought the nonfree software was on the addon too, I'm a bit behind ;) Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however. Wrong estimation? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
Marcel Hilzinger schrieb: I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however. Wrong estimation? Nope, as long as you plan to have the / partition formatted as ext3 (or ext2) during installation you will run into bug 220200 which is fixed for GM only. And this bug could mean doubling or even tripling the installation time. FMF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 11:23]: I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however. Wrong estimation? Hardly. The 'extimation' is done by timing actual package installs - thats why you don't get a time estimation during the first couple of packages. Time to install a package is influenced by - reading from CD/DVD/Network - unpacking the RPM - writing to disk - running pre/post scripts So its almost guaranteed to be somewhat wrong - always ;-) Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] boot screen fun wiht RC1
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Jens Herden wrote: 3. I could not find a way to add boot parameter anymore. Was this removed? I usually add a vga=0x305 because the installer is not detecting my screen. You sure can. Never seen it missing. 4. After the installation the language menu is broken. I have installed openSuse in English only and I was expecting a menu entry English but I got en. Looks like a bug. I any of this worse a bug report? Sure. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 11:39 schrieb Klaus Kaempf: * Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 11:23]: I just saw, that YaST estimates Installlation time to be 45 minutes. This seems too long (from DVD). Older versions installed within 30 minutes or below. Installation seems faster than 45 min, however. Wrong estimation? Hardly. The 'extimation' is done by timing actual package installs - thats why you don't get a time estimation during the first couple of packages. Time to install a package is influenced by - reading from CD/DVD/Network - unpacking the RPM - writing to disk - running pre/post scripts So its almost guaranteed to be somewhat wrong - always ;-) Yes, but it would be better to be wrong the other way round. So saying it takes 30 minutes and doing it within 35 minutes is better, than saying it takes 45 minutes and it's done within 35. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 45 minutes for Installation
Marcel Hilzinger a écrit : Yes, but it would be better to be wrong the other way round. So saying it takes 30 minutes and doing it within 35 minutes is better, than saying it takes 45 minutes and it's done within 35. certainly not. I have an appointment in 30 minute, do I have time to install? better have a longer guess than a smaller - less problematic! (could say: less than xx minutes) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Non-OSS Add-Ons Don't Change
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, When I installed Beta1, Beta2 and now RC1 the installer keeps indicating that none of the packages from the non-OSS add-on CD are newer than what's installed. Is that actually true? If so, why are new disc images released every time? If not, why don't the updates register? I use the YaST Installation Source to refresh from the new disc each time. I just checked, beta2 had: acroread-7.0.8-17.i586.rpm flash-player-7.0.68.0-12.i586.rpm and RC1 has: acroread-7.0.8-21.i586.rpm flash-player-7.0.68.0-15.i586.rpm So, there's at least a difference - but we did not change them otherwise, it's just a build number increase. You should get those reinstalled - please investigate and consider filing a bugreport, From which media are you installing? CD or DVD? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpxUBMfhsE7a.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Re: Building NetworkManager PPTP .. but where oh where can I find / get pppd.h for RC1 ?
* Bruce A. Mallett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20061124 04:25]: I thought I'd try my hand at building the NetworkManager PPTP plugin but it requires this file. The pin util. does not find it and a google seems to indicate ppp-devel. Yes, it is indeed part of ppp-devel. Philipp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Bug or feature?
When adding a new installation source in YaST, I see only the following points: CD DVD Lokales Verzeichnis Package Directory URL angeben However, if there is internet connection I can also choose: SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS. Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet sources, if you start the module without internet connection. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug or feature?
However, if there is internet connection I can also choose: SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS. Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet sources, if you start the module without internet connection. I'd almost rate that as most annoying. Definitely a bug, as I sometimes want to install from ftp://localhost/ because YOU can't handle deltas from file://, and going through an ftp (or http) server just for this is needed. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
On Monday 20 November 2006 08:22, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: On Thursday 16 November 2006 18:34, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Montag, 13. November 2006 20:53 schrieb David Mayr: I think SUSE artists can do much better that that washed out blue wallpaper gnome boredoom-style. I agree. If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. No insult intended for the artist. Thanks for the wallpaper from RC1. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug or feature?
Dňa Pi 24. November 2006 12:41 Volker Kuhlmann napísal: However, if there is internet connection I can also choose: SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS. Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet sources, if you start the module without internet connection. I'd almost rate that as most annoying. Definitely a bug, as I sometimes want to install from ftp://localhost/ because YOU can't handle deltas from file://, and going through an ftp (or http) server just for this is needed. IMO think this is pretty much expert scenario and you should be able to use command line tools for this. For a normal user, if there is no network connection, it does not make sense to attach to a network-based repository and it will fail in a way that's pretty hard to understand. Stano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug or feature?
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 13:18 schrieb Stanislav Visnovsky: Dňa Pi 24. November 2006 12:41 Volker Kuhlmann napísal: However, if there is internet connection I can also choose: SLP, FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, SMB/CIFS, NFS. Bug or feature? It's also very annoying, that YaST removes all internet sources, if you start the module without internet connection. I'd almost rate that as most annoying. Definitely a bug, as I sometimes want to install from ftp://localhost/ because YOU can't handle deltas from file://, and going through an ftp (or http) server just for this is needed. IMO think this is pretty much expert scenario and you should be able to use command line tools for this. For a normal user, if there is no network connection, it does not make sense to attach to a network-based repository and it will fail in a way that's pretty hard to understand. Does this mean: it's a feature? So how about my next bug: If you start the installation source module without internet connection, YaST checks for each source, if it's available and prompts for OK, Cancel, Skip. If you choose Skip, YaST asks, if it should remove the installation source immediately. If you choose here No (for not removing) the installation source does not show up anymore. YaST does not remove the source indeed, but as it does not show up, most users may think, that it did so. If you have several sources set up, this might be _very_ annoying. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Fwd:SUSE Security Announcement: phpMyAdmin
Hi, As Marcus just announed on the security mailing-list, SuSE Linux 10.2 got updated to phpMyAdmin 2.9.1.1. In the factory tree, there is 2.9.0.2 available. Can we expect that at least 2.9.1.1 will be in 10.2 too? Or would you like this filed in bugzilla for tracking? Dominique Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24-11-2006 14:21:35 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 __ SUSE Security Announcement Package:phpMyAdmin Announcement ID:SUSE-SA:2006:071 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:00:00 + Affected Products: SUSE LINUX 10.1 SUSE LINUX 10.0 SUSE LINUX 9.3 Vulnerability Type: cross site scripting Severity (1-10):6 SUSE Default Package: yes Cross-References: CVE-2006-3388, CVE-2006-5116, CVE-2006-5117 CVE-2006-5718 Content of This Advisory: 1) Security Vulnerability Resolved: phpMyAdmin security upgrade Problem Description 2) Solution or Work-Around 3) Special Instructions and Notes 4) Package Location and Checksums 5) Pending Vulnerabilities, Solutions, and Work-Arounds: See SUSE Security Summary Report. 6) Authenticity Verification and Additional Information __ 1) Problem Description and Brief Discussion The phpMyAdmin package was upgraded to version 2.9.1.1. While we usually do not do version upgrades, fixing the occurring security problems of phpMyAdmin got too difficult so we decided to go with the current upstream version. This release includes fixes for the previously not fixed security problems tracked by the Mitre CVE IDs CVE-2006-3388, CVE-2006-5116, CVE-2006-5117, and CVE-2006-5718 and of course all other bugs fixed in 2.9.1.1. 2) Solution or Work-Around There is no known workaround, please install the update packages. 3) Special Instructions and Notes None. 4) Package Location and Checksums The preferred method for installing security updates is to use the YaST Online Update (YOU) tool. YOU detects which updates are required and automatically performs the necessary steps to verify and install them. Alternatively, download the update packages for your distribution manually and verify their integrity by the methods listed in Section 6 of this announcement. Then install the packages using the command rpm -Fhv file.rpm to apply the update, replacing file.rpm with the filename of the downloaded RPM package. Platform Independent: SUSE LINUX 10.1: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1/rpm/noarch/phpMyAdmin-2.9.1.1-2.1.noarch.rpm fb85f5fed5abc54bdbd1309678d80875 SUSE LINUX 10.0: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/10.0/rpm/noarch/phpMyAdmin-2.9.1.1-2.1.noarch.rpm dfb67d57dc9f17df7f7531ffd2d51a85 SUSE LINUX 9.3: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/9.3/rpm/noarch/phpMyAdmin-2.9.1.1-2.1.noarch.rpm b7216edcb198fe74fe5dc4feeafdc0d5 Sources: SUSE LINUX 10.1: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.1/rpm/src/phpMyAdmin-2.9.1.1-2.1.src.rpm 4e334b1e1909a0fc17bd02148bf770ac SUSE LINUX 10.0: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/10.0/rpm/src/phpMyAdmin-2.9.1.1-2.1.src.rpm 1aa59e5aa181820c771c2ef465128866 SUSE LINUX 9.3: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/9.3/rpm/src/phpMyAdmin-2.9.1.1-2.1.src.rpm 026a7b85870c558d37724ef96b81c5a9 __ 5) Pending Vulnerabilities, Solutions, and Work-Arounds: See SUSE Security Summary Report. __ 6) Authenticity Verification and Additional Information - Announcement authenticity verification: SUSE security announcements are published via mailing lists and on Web sites. The authenticity and integrity of a SUSE security announcement is guaranteed by a cryptographic signature in each announcement. All SUSE security announcements are published with a valid signature. To verify the signature of the announcement, save it as text into a file and run the command gpg --verify file replacing file with the name of the file where you saved the announcement. The output for a valid signature looks like: gpg: Signature made DATE using RSA key ID 3D25D3D9 gpg: Good signature from SuSE Security Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] where DATE is replaced by the date the document was signed. If the security team's key is not contained in your key ring, you can import it from the first installation
[opensuse-factory] zmd not running
That's what zmd-updater says, but it turns out that zmd-daemon is actually running: rczmd status Checking for ZENworks Management Daemon: running ps ax | grep zmd 3140 ?SNsl 0:01 zmd /usr/lib/zmd/zmd.exe I have a fresh RC1 installation. Right after installation there were 2 identical icons with zmd-updater. After reboot, there's only one icon, but I get zmd not running. The update system so much needs to _just work_ this time around. I'll look into bugzilla and file blockers if necessary. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd:SUSE Security Announcement: phpMyAdmin
Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, As Marcus just announed on the security mailing-list, SuSE Linux 10.2 got updated to phpMyAdmin 2.9.1.1. In the factory tree, there is 2.9.0.2 available. Can we expect that at least 2.9.1.1 will be in 10.2 too? Or would you like this filed in bugzilla for tracking? We updated already: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2006-11/msg01330.html Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpGFt9r2Qzve.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] delta iso for RC1 broken?
Andras Mantia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 24 November 2006 10:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote: What's the best plan here now? I suggest removing openSUSE-10.2-Beta2_RC1-Addon-Lang-i386.delta.iso and adding a README... Can't you create a new delta iso which works against the version that is on the server (and gives as a result the RC1 that is on the server)? We tried that - but something was different from the MD5SUMS that were reported in this thread. I'm removing it now completely to be on the safe side :-( After the Beta2 problems with the ISOs (and this is a fallout from that), I've written some more scripts so this should not happen again. Sorry, our fault :-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgptnnmUgNoNQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3
Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like editing /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/yum/yum.d.repos/ Why? With the current solution, each time you launch the installation source module metadata is fetched. Most of us probably never need this metadata to add a new source. I even doubt, that the module itsef needs this data. If you start the Package Manager after the installation source module, the same data is fetched again. So Suse does 2x the work, which would be needed actually to perform an installation from a new source. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3
Am Friday 24 November 2006 14:17 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like editing /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/yum/yum.d.repos/ Why? With the current solution, each time you launch the installation source module metadata is fetched. Most of us probably never need this metadata to add a new source. I even doubt, that the module itsef needs this data. if the source is marked as not changing source, this happens only once. If you start the Package Manager after the installation source module, the same data is fetched again. So Suse does 2x the work, which would be needed actually to perform an installation from a new source. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 14:13]: Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like editing /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/yum/yum.d.repos/ When adding a repository, retrieving the metadata is the right thing to do to detect problems. If you start to download metadata when starting a package manager, errors will be quite confusing. Why? With the current solution, each time you launch the installation source module metadata is fetched. This is wrong and we want to fix this for 10.3. Downloading (resp. refreshing) repository metadata should not be done when starting a software managment application. Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for improvement. Goals = My goals with the restructuring are: * Clear naming - no misunderstandings * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download * structure should be usable for 10.3 Alphas und final again Separate trees == We have several ftp trees (for 10.1: OSS and Non-OSS) and I propose to make smaller repositories for faster download of metadata: * OSS (factory) * NON-OSS (factory-extra) * Debug (factory-debug) * Sources for OSS * Sources for NON-OSS Naming == * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc. FTP Structure = .../distribution/openSUSE-10.2 has the following subdirectories: * isos * repositories isos directory has the following subdirectories: * dvd - the DVD5 * deltas * non-oss * oss * torrents repositories sdirectory has the following subdirectories: * debug * non-oss * oss * source-non-oss - just sources * source-oss - just sources Does this make sense? Do you have better ideas? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpDzYJgaiEuE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for improvement. Goals = My goals with the restructuring are: * Clear naming - no misunderstandings * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download * structure should be usable for 10.3 Alphas und final again Separate trees == We have several ftp trees (for 10.1: OSS and Non-OSS) and I propose to make smaller repositories for faster download of metadata: * OSS (factory) * NON-OSS (factory-extra) * Debug (factory-debug) * Sources for OSS * Sources for NON-OSS Naming == * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc. FTP Structure = .../distribution/openSUSE-10.2 has the following subdirectories: * isos * repositories isos directory has the following subdirectories: * dvd - the DVD5 * deltas * non-oss * oss * torrents repositories sdirectory has the following subdirectories: * debug * non-oss * oss * source-non-oss - just sources * source-oss - just sources Does this make sense? Do you have better ideas? In general please find short names and don't use plural. F.e. iso, not isos, and repo, not repositories, src, not sources, delta, not deltas, torrent, not torrents. Maybe also one level higher - dist for distribution. And if cd and dvd images shall not reside within the same directory, the names cd and dvd would be better than iso and dvd. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] zmd not running
Reply on 24-11-2006 16:13:32 D(Bòa Pi 24. November 2006 13:40 Dominique Leuenberger napísal: Reply on 24-11-2006 14:38:34 That's what zmd-updater says, but it turns out that zmd-daemon is actually running: rczmd status Checking for ZENworks Management Daemon: running ps ax | grep zmd 3140 ?SNsl 0:01 zmd /usr/lib/zmd/zmd.exe I have a fresh RC1 installation. Right after installation there were 2 identical icons with zmd-updater. After reboot, there's only one icon, but I get zmd not running. The update system so much needs to _just work_ this time around. I'll look into bugzilla and file blockers if necessary. Silviu, I have seen something similiar (not exactly, as I didn't go for RC1 yet). it seems ZMD is locking the replies while doing a refresh. For example, before sqlite-zmd was introduced, you could do a rug refresh and a rug lu in a second terminal. rug lu gave immediate response (whith old data). now, rug lu waits for rug refresh to finish. Probably zen-updater is waiting for zmd to finish the refresh Yes, there was some work done to make ZMD more thread-safe. Stano, as far as I followed the bug report about this issue, zmd was not really done more 'thread safe' yet. Solely the sqlite db for zmd was downgraded to 3.2.8 instead of the distribution wide installed 3.3 (sqlite-zmd was added) This work is still to be done I guess :-) Dominique - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] New openSUSE WIKI Document: YaST Remote Logging in Installation
Hi, I've just finished a new document about YaST Remote Logging in Installation. It uses another computer with a configured NFS server to store installation logs on it to simplify getting YaST logs, for debugging falling installation (e.g., SEGFAULTs) and/or to minimize memory requirements during the installation. Please, test it and/or make it better :) Thanks -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o., Lihovarska 1060/12, Praha 9, Czech Republic signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] zmd not running
On Friday 24 November 2006 14:40, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I have seen something similiar (not exactly, as I didn't go for RC1 I have killed zmd.exe (BTW why doesn't rczmd stop work?) and started it again; now it works. O zi buna! :-) Thanks, you too - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
Am Friday 24 November 2006 15:03 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg: Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for improvement. Goals = My goals with the restructuring are: * Clear naming - no misunderstandings * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download * structure should be usable for 10.3 Alphas und final again Separate trees == We have several ftp trees (for 10.1: OSS and Non-OSS) and I propose to make smaller repositories for faster download of metadata: * OSS (factory) * NON-OSS (factory-extra) * Debug (factory-debug) * Sources for OSS * Sources for NON-OSS Naming == * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc. FTP Structure = .../distribution/openSUSE-10.2 has the following subdirectories: * isos * repositories isos directory has the following subdirectories: * dvd - the DVD5 * deltas * non-oss * oss * torrents repositories sdirectory has the following subdirectories: * debug * non-oss * oss * source-non-oss - just sources * source-oss - just sources Does this make sense? Do you have better ideas? In general please find short names and don't use plural. F.e. iso, not isos, and repo, not repositories, src, not sources, delta, not deltas, torrent, not torrents. The reason why we took repositories was to reuse existing names on the ftp server (pub/opensuse/repositories) and to make it clear that you can not use this directory directly. You have to go inside and pick one. Maybe also one level higher - dist for distribution. I would like to avoid a change here, it would cause too much pain for the mirrors. (and I personally think longer names are better than short ones for most users, who are not famillar with the structure). And if cd and dvd images shall not reside within the same directory, the names cd and dvd would be better than iso and dvd. good point bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
On Friday 24 November 2006 14:53, Adrian Schröter wrote: Am Friday 24 November 2006 15:03 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg: Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've thought a bit about how to structure - and name - the directories for openSUSE 10.2 and like to get your feedback and suggestions for improvement. Goals = My goals with the restructuring are: * Clear naming - no misunderstandings * Smaller repositories for faster metadata download * structure should be usable for 10.3 Alphas und final again Separate trees == We have several ftp trees (for 10.1: OSS and Non-OSS) and I propose to make smaller repositories for faster download of metadata: * OSS (factory) * NON-OSS (factory-extra) * Debug (factory-debug) * Sources for OSS * Sources for NON-OSS Naming == * let's use repository instead of catalog, inst-source etc. FTP Structure = .../distribution/openSUSE-10.2 has the following subdirectories: * isos * repositories isos directory has the following subdirectories: * dvd - the DVD5 * deltas * non-oss * oss * torrents repositories sdirectory has the following subdirectories: * debug * non-oss * oss * source-non-oss - just sources * source-oss - just sources Does this make sense? Do you have better ideas? In general please find short names and don't use plural. F.e. iso, not isos, and repo, not repositories, src, not sources, delta, not deltas, torrent, not torrents. The reason why we took repositories was to reuse existing names on the ftp server (pub/opensuse/repositories) and to make it clear that you can not use this directory directly. You have to go inside and pick one. Maybe also one level higher - dist for distribution. I would like to avoid a change here, it would cause too much pain for the mirrors. (and I personally think longer names are better than short ones for most users, who are not famillar with the structure). And if cd and dvd images shall not reside within the same directory, the names cd and dvd would be better than iso and dvd. good point It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are easier to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I think is the case here. Hugo Costelha - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] New openSUSE WIKI Document: YaST Remote Logging in Installation
Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I've just finished a new document about YaST Remote Logging in Installation. Cool - could you reference it from the bug reporting pages, please? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp62b7AVr88n.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] No sound in RC1
Am I doing something wrong or is this a known problem in 10.2 (RC1)? It was also in Beta 2 but I didn't pay too much attention to it because I wasn't trying out the multimedia features. While I have the sound card configured correctly and I do get sound on boot and shutdown, I have no sound when using kradio or kdetv. Is this a bug or is there something which needs a tweak (or a kick up the ..)? Cheers. -- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. Galileo Galilei - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 install failure ( fix) on ASUS P5B Deluxe
On Friday 24 November 2006 00:42, Andreas Jaeger wrote: ... Please report this in bugzilla - not sure whether we can handle this at this point of time but let's at least try... That bug has been in Bugzilla for quite a while already. In fact, as of this morning's batch (U.S. West Coast time) the bug was fixed. See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217930, as your second message in this thread indicates. Andreas Randall Schulz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote: It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are easier to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I think is the case here. It does not take longer time to get a sense for a shorter word. But directory listings have a chance to be readable and submitting URLs has a chance not to get broken if the path names are short. the length of /pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2/repositories/source-non-oss/ already is really crazy and a pain for everyone who needs to spell or type it - a full line already, and still missing protocol prefix, hostname, arch suffix and filename. /pub/suse/i386/9.3/ was a good path naming and length. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: It does not take longer time to get a sense for a shorter word. But directory listings have a chance to be readable and submitting URLs has a chance not to get broken if the path names are short. the length of /pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2/repositories/source-non-oss/ already is really crazy and a pain for everyone who needs to spell or type it - a full line already, and still missing protocol prefix, hostname, arch suffix and filename. /pub/suse/i386/9.3/ was a good path naming and length. I prefer shorter names as well. I always seem to have problems typing in the longer names and with my Dislexia, I do not always notice the type-o's I really like the names for the 9.X series. I would really like to see the names shortend. Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote: It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are easier to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I think is the case here. It does not take longer time to get a sense for a shorter word. But directory listings have a chance to be readable and submitting URLs has a chance not to get broken if the path names are short. the length of /pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2/repositories/source-non-oss/ already is really crazy and a pain for everyone who needs to spell or type it - a full line already, and still missing protocol prefix, hostname, arch suffix and filename. /pub/suse/i386/9.3/ was a good path naming and length. +1 /pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution and repeating the opensuse does not help understanding the structure. I also thing repositories is not needed at all. -- Andreas Vetter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
Michael and myself discussed this a bit further and asked our build experts to experiment a bit - and those first experiments are positive enough that I'm confident to tell you about them ;-). We're planning to put all languages that have according to the translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php) more than 98 % translated to the media. Note this is the translation status for YaST and software provided by the openSUSE project and Novell folks, it does not include translation status of e.g. GNOME, KDE or OpenOffice.Org. We're working on the details on how exactly to do this - just DVD or also CDs (in that case on CD4+5) - but we're trying to do what can be done. So, this means that the following languages should get on the media - in addition to the existing ones: * Danish (100 %) * Finnish (100 %) * Hungarian (100 %) * Cambodian (99 %) * Norwegian (99 %) * Dutch (98 %) * Polish (99 %) I'm impressed with the level of translation that these teams have done! Note: We master on monday an internal RC2 and will check that everything really fits on the media. Our constraints are the space on the CDs and that the DVD5 should not be larger than 4 GB. I hope that's an acceptable solution for all, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpFnWtMxXXKt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53 On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: /pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution and repeating the opensuse does not help understanding the structure. I also thing repositories is not needed at all. I think the distinguishion between dist end repositories as it is in the moment is quiet important.AFAIR, in repositories, you find the mirror of repos.opensuse.org, including the community packages. Counting them at this moment inside the dist is quiet dangerous. Not all of these packages (for not to say none) go through a rough QC. distribution on the other hand is the 'official' cd/dvd/ftp installation tree. one could leave repositories (i vote for repos) as it is on the same directory level as 10.1 and leave out the level distribution -- Andreas Vetter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
On Friday 24 November 2006 15:15, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: Hi, On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugo Costelha wrote: It seems wuite intuitive to me. I also prefer longer names, if they are easier to remember and much easier to get some sense out of them, which I think is the case here. It does not take longer time to get a sense for a shorter word. But directory listings have a chance to be readable and submitting URLs has a chance not to get broken if the path names are short. I am talking of my experience, and for me it takes. But maybe it is just for me. the length of /pub/opensuse/distribution/openSUSE-10.2/repositories/source-non-oss/ already is really crazy and a pain for everyone who needs to spell or type it - a full line already, and still missing protocol prefix, hostname, arch suffix and filename. /pub/suse/i386/9.3/ was a good path naming and length. Well, one thing with be to remove openSUSE, ant it would be http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repositories/oss Looks small enough to me! Hugo Costelha - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
Am Friday 24 November 2006 16:42 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger: Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53 On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: /pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution and repeating the opensuse does not help understanding the structure. I also thing repositories is not needed at all. I think the distinguishion between dist end repositories as it is in the moment is quiet important.AFAIR, in repositories, you find the mirror of repos.opensuse.org, including the community packages. Counting them at this moment inside the dist is quiet dangerous. Not all of these packages (for not to say none) go through a rough QC. distribution on the other hand is the 'official' cd/dvd/ftp installation tree. but shorter names would be great. Less to type is always good! you need to keep in mind that only a few users type these names at all. Sure, on this list the number of people who type is higher ;) But the main goal is to lead the people to the right directory (and they are using a mouse for doing that). -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
Reply on 24-11-2006 18:00:45 Am Friday 24 November 2006 16:42 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger: Reply on 24-11-2006 17:40:53 On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: /pub/opensuse/10.2 would be enough. Of course 10.2 is a distribution and repeating the opensuse does not help understanding the structure. I also thing repositories is not needed at all. I think the distinguishion between dist end repositories as it is in the moment is quiet important.AFAIR, in repositories, you find the mirror of repos.opensuse.org, including the community packages. Counting them at this moment inside the dist is quiet dangerous. Not all of these packages (for not to say none) go through a rough QC. distribution on the other hand is the 'official' cd/dvd/ftp installation tree. but shorter names would be great. Less to type is always good! you need to keep in mind that only a few users type these names at all. Sure, on this list the number of people who type is higher ;) But the main goal is to lead the people to the right directory (and they are using a mouse for doing that). Hmm.. Good point Adrian. I should get used to that thing close to my keyboard... how did you call it? Mouse? :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 14:17 schrieb Klaus Kaempf: * Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 14:13]: Just a proposal for 10.3, as for 10.2 it's too late anyway: I think the installation source module should not fetch any other data then the source name. It should just put the right info on the right place, like editing /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/yum/yum.d.repos/ When adding a repository, retrieving the metadata is the right thing to do to detect problems. If you start to download metadata when starting a package manager, errors will be quite confusing. But why 90% of all package managers work the other way? With apt, smart, yum adding a source needs no internet connection and it's a matter of a second. Metadata is only loaded, when you want to install something. I don't see, why the YaST solution would be better, but feel free to convince me ;-) Why? With the current solution, each time you launch the installation source module metadata is fetched. This is wrong and we want to fix this for 10.3. Downloading (resp. refreshing) repository metadata should not be done when starting a software managment application. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] No sound in RC1
Am Freitag, 24. November 2006 16:09 schrieb Basil Chupin: Am I doing something wrong or is this a known problem in 10.2 (RC1)? It was also in Beta 2 but I didn't pay too much attention to it because I wasn't trying out the multimedia features. While I have the sound card configured correctly and I do get sound on boot and shutdown, I have no sound when using kradio or kdetv. usually the output of your radio/tv card goes to the line-in of your sound-card. So maybe it's just muted -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG Süskindstr. 4 D-81929 München Tel: +49 (89) 99 34 11 0 Fax: +49 (89) 99 34 11 99 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Installation source handling in 10.3
* Marcel Hilzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Nov 24. 2006 17:10]: But why 90% of all package managers work the other way? With apt, smart, yum adding a source needs no internet connection and it's a matter of a second. Metadata is only loaded, when you want to install something. I don't see, why the YaST solution would be better, but feel free to convince me ;-) I just think that getting a 'repository not available' error (due to mistyped URL, server down, whatever) is more intuitive during the actual adding of the repo. There are no technical reasons for one way or the other. Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Non-OSS Add-Ons Don't Change
Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas, On Friday 24 November 2006 03:30, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, When I installed Beta1, Beta2 and now RC1 the installer keeps indicating that none of the packages from the non-OSS add-on CD are newer than what's installed. Is that actually true? If so, why are new disc images released every time? If not, why don't the updates register? I use the YaST Installation Source to refresh from the new disc each time. I just checked, beta2 had: acroread-7.0.8-17.i586.rpm flash-player-7.0.68.0-12.i586.rpm and RC1 has: acroread-7.0.8-21.i586.rpm flash-player-7.0.68.0-15.i586.rpm Those are the versions currently installed. Could the installer have found the non-OSS CD that was in the second drive while I was installing from the RC1 DVD? I didn't explicitly refer to the add-on CD during the upgrade installation process. The DVD contains the non-OSS CD already. So, you have the packages on *both* media. The same thing happend when I upgraded from beta1 to beta2. So, there's at least a difference - but we did not change them otherwise, it's just a build number increase. You should get those reinstalled - please investigate and consider filing a bugreport, From which media are you installing? CD or DVD? There's an add-ons DVD? I installed the OSS from the DVD made by applying the delta ISO image to the Beta2 (as my previous message about the torrent URLs mentioned). The DVD contains the 5 CDs plus the non-OSS Addon. There's only this one DVD, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpNq7uMhVFcj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
Fredag 24 november 2006 16:41 skrev Andreas Jaeger: We're planning to put all languages that have according to the translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php) more than 98 % translated to the media. We're working on the details on how exactly to do this - just DVD or also CDs (in that case on CD4+5) - but we're trying to do what can be done. Awesome. It's still unclear to me what will and won't be on the dvd9 though. * Danish (100 %) * Finnish (100 %) * Hungarian (100 %) * Cambodian (99 %) * Norwegian (99 %) * Dutch (98 %) * Polish (99 %) I'm impressed with the level of translation that these teams have done! Thanks. I hope that's an acceptable solution for all, No more complaints from me. But you'd better figure out a good solution for 10.3 - by then everybody will make sure they have at least 98% translated ;-) Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Non-OSS Add-Ons Don't Change
Andreas, On Friday 24 November 2006 09:34, Andreas Jaeger wrote: ... The DVD contains the non-OSS CD already. So, you have the packages on *both* media. OK. I didn't realize that. ... Andreas Thanks. Randall Schulz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fredag 24 november 2006 16:41 skrev Andreas Jaeger: We're planning to put all languages that have according to the translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php) more than 98 % translated to the media. We're working on the details on how exactly to do this - just DVD or also CDs (in that case on CD4+5) - but we're trying to do what can be done. Awesome. It's still unclear to me what will and won't be on the dvd9 though. We'll figure this out on monday ;-) * Danish (100 %) * Finnish (100 %) * Hungarian (100 %) * Cambodian (99 %) * Norwegian (99 %) * Dutch (98 %) * Polish (99 %) I'm impressed with the level of translation that these teams have done! Thanks. I hope that's an acceptable solution for all, No more complaints from me. But you'd better figure out a good solution for 10.3 - by then everybody will make sure they have at least 98% translated ;-) We raise to 102 % ;-) Yes, we need some solution and have to discuss this, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpoO4e6eYlsC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
2006/11/24, Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fredag 24 november 2006 16:41 skrev Andreas Jaeger: We're planning to put all languages that have according to the translation statistics page (http://i18n.opensuse.org/stats/index.php) more than 98 % translated to the media. We're working on the details on how exactly to do this - just DVD or also CDs (in that case on CD4+5) - but we're trying to do what can be done. Awesome. It's still unclear to me what will and won't be on the dvd9 though. * Danish (100 %) * Finnish (100 %) * Hungarian (100 %) * Cambodian (99 %) * Norwegian (99 %) * Dutch (98 %) * Polish (99 %) I'm impressed with the level of translation that these teams have done! Thanks. I hope that's an acceptable solution for all, No more complaints from me. But you'd better figure out a good solution for 10.3 - by then everybody will make sure they have at least 98% translated ;-) When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much space these will take? The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these are about 200 KB. lcn string count is twice less, so seems like including 30 languages will take about 20 MB alltogether as rpm-s. Is this worth discussing at all? ain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much space these will take? The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these are about 200 KB. This time, no need to worry. The YaST translations are on the media, and many a lot of the lcn part as well. -- Karl Eichwalder RD / DocumentationSUSE Linux Products GmbH GPG: 1024D/06EB882E B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
2006/11/24, Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much space these will take? The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these are about 200 KB. This time, no need to worry. The YaST translations are on the media, and many a lot of the lcn part as well. Thanks for response, but I'd like to remind for future, that translation teams will get most of feedback from released version users. In small communities are not so much people using factory. So for WIP-projects the 98% limit will be a step backwards. ain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much space these will take? Language support for a language means: * YaST and lcn translations * OpenOffice.org translations * translations of various packages, e.g. koffice-i18n packages * dictionaries, e.g. for aspell and myspell * Fonts * Documentation All in all we're speaking of several megabytes here with OOo alone using around 12 MB for a language. The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these are about 200 KB. lcn string count is twice less, so seems like including 30 languages will take about 20 MB alltogether as rpm-s. Is this worth discussing at all? The YaST and the lcn translations were always on the base media. The discussion here is about the other files. I brought yast and lcn in the discussion to have one objective (ok, subjective selection) to decide which languages to add additionally. The assumption is that if we have a language team that cares so much about the localization of yast/lcn, then we have enough users speaking that language and caring for it that it makes sense to support this language fully, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp6uVri8NG4E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
2006/11/24, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When talking about yast and lcn translations, then sorry - how much space these will take? Language support for a language means: * YaST and lcn translations * OpenOffice.org translations * translations of various packages, e.g. koffice-i18n packages * dictionaries, e.g. for aspell and myspell * Fonts * Documentation All in all we're speaking of several megabytes here with OOo alone using around 12 MB for a language. The biggest yast-translation package is about 500 KB, usually these are about 200 KB. lcn string count is twice less, so seems like including 30 languages will take about 20 MB alltogether as rpm-s. Is this worth discussing at all? The YaST and the lcn translations were always on the base media. The discussion here is about the other files. I brought yast and lcn in the discussion to have one objective (ok, subjective selection) to decide which languages to add additionally. The assumption is that if we have a language team that cares so much about the localization of yast/lcn, then we have enough users speaking that language and caring for it that it makes sense to support this language fully, Thanks, understood now. I agree fully with you. ain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Tier-2 languages in RC1
2006/11/24, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ain Vagula [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for response, but I'd like to remind for future, that translation teams will get most of feedback from released version users. In small communities are not so much people using factory. So for WIP-projects the 98% limit will be a step backwards. Those will be - and have been during the beta phase - on the Language Addon media. This is a step forward since you now can install them via CD - with 10.1 for example some files were only available via ftp, Oh yes, who knows better how to use addons than translator of yast modules ;) Sorry for previous mess but the policy was really unclear for me when starting this conversation. Otherways, maybe 98% is too hard limit? I'd think that 99% of users will ever see ~80% of messages. In OO.o we have limit for including at 80% translated UI messages and I find it quite fair, as there is hard to find eg. Basic and database translators and - dominating part of users don't use these modules. In OpenSuSE base system translation things can be even worse - it stops not for only due missing competent translators but also due missing terminology, and here we need time to discuss and find solutions together with terminology 'owners' ;) ain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Directory structure for ftp tree of openSUSE 10.2
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 04:58:45PM +0100, Adrian Schroeter wrote: you need to keep in mind that only a few users type these names at all. I think this depends on whether you talk about iso images or repositories. Your statement is most likely correct for the images but the repositories are often used for network installations and there it is extremely ugly to type long pathes, especially if they also contain uppercase letters. Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur. pgpqnPI3f6PlE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] UPS monitoring
Hi, What was the reason of dropping any kind of UPS monitoring tool from SUSE? IIRC nut (http://www.networkupstools.org/) was included in earlier releases, but I cannot find in 10.2. I'm not sure about 10.1, if it had or not. Andras -- Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org K Desktop Environment - http://www.kde.org pgpNRcwIetyg9.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] congratulations...
I want to congratulate the openSUSE 10.2 developpers, because I'm on the way of installing the RC1 on a very low end machine http://fr.opensuse.org/Utilisateur:Jdd/alb/La_Mouette on this computer I could install 10.0 but not 10.1. The install, there, stopped at the partitionning part. This one is critical because no swap can be used when partitionning a hard drive :-) today, I didn't repartitioned the computer, but reformat a partition with ext3 and all went well, quite fast and the minimal install is going and sheduled to run a little more than one hour, what is quite good on such hardware I will have to use cd 2 and 3, but probably because i'm french of course, I had to trick the install - cd don't boot, so first copy linux and initrd (this is a really wonderfull trick) on the HD, textmode=1 on the grub kernel line... I want to enphasize on this because we have now a lot of outdated computer that are in perfect condition nearly for free. In France, a lot of people don't have money to run new hardware and we are many to fear the social gap between people with internet access and people without. In the whole world, much more people are in the same situation. So having a recent system able to run on such kind of hardware is a real gift (don't even think running Vista on this). and don't forget that those people may rule the world in few years... let alone by they number. thanks again for me and all of them jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] xen
Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into bugzilla.. With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN == kernel-xen got selected and installed == However, the grub-menu was not extended. re-installing kernel-xen (Uvh) did no good. while forcing kernel-xen from yast did append the xen-section into grub, and making it even the default option (thanks for that change!!) Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] grub timeout
Did anybody notice that the default timeout of eight seconds disapeared from grub? I had to add that line over three times now After booting it just waits in the grub menu. Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] selections/threads/add-ons
Hi all, just went through the xml file intended for cloning a system. One thing struck me. Before the change from selections=threads, i had a simple selection, with a couple of add-ons. Now i get a thread with dozens add-ons. Intended, or side-effect? Hans. -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] default packages
Perhaps i should enter it as a requested enhancement ;-) When wanting a bare minimal system, (by selecting text-mode only) i expect a real-minimum, however I find a lot of packages installed, which might be very nice and helpfull, but i did not select them. they are in three catagories: a) nice be not requested: like tcpdump. This is something a often select, but it should be included into the catagorie of power-tools for experienced users, not default. b) not wanted. If i want printing, i will select them: cups, cups-drivers, cups-libs, gutenberg, yats2-print should belong to a sub-thread c) waste of time/disk space hardware scan should know what kind of hardware there is. Why of why is yast2-scanner, yast2-irda, xfs-tools, dos-stuff installed My MOBO does not have a sound-card: so why do i get alsa? (new sound-thread) All of these packages are probaly nice for some people to have. But there are also lots of people who don't need them. Reasoning is this. Either if i select a packages manually, or it it gets installed by default, i have to claryfy its presence with an security officer. Same if its gets installed by default, i i decide to get rid of it. I rather have it not installed unless the it is really needed, Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] xen
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im not sure i would call it a feature, let even alone enter it into bugzilla.. With B2, selecting minimal, text only PLUS XEN == kernel-xen got selected and installed == However, the grub-menu was not extended. There was a bug that was marked as fixed, so it should have worked. Please file a new bug with log files. re-installing kernel-xen (Uvh) did no good. while forcing kernel-xen from yast did append the xen-section into grub, and making it even the default option (thanks for that change!!) Hans Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpiKVPlId3cD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] grub timeout
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did anybody notice that the default timeout of eight seconds disapeared from grub? I had to add that line over three times now After booting it just waits in the grub menu. That was beta2 only AFAIK, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpU7Ne9mWbzo.pgp Description: PGP signature
