RE: tag library problem with attributes

2000-10-12 Thread Magnus Rydin
Title: RE: tag library problem with attributes





Kit, should that be
%=library.getBooks()% (notice the equals sign missing in your code)
WR


 -Original Message-
 From: Kit Cragin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: den 12 oktober 2000 07:52
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: tag library problem with attributes
 
 
 Hi:
 
 I am getting the error message Attribute of type 
 'java.util.Collection'
 must be a request time attribute when Orion attempts to 
 parse my JSP. This
 seems weird because I do set rtexprvalue to true in my 
 taglib.tld (see
 below). I was attempting to create an iterator similar to the 
 one defined in
 the orion taglib tutorial at 
 http://www.orionserver.com/taglibtut/index.jsp
 and include it in my web application.
 
 My JSP contains:
 
 %@ taglib uri=tags prefix=model %
 jsp:useBean id=library type=com.mongoosetech.model.Library
 scope=application/
 ...
 model:iterator name=book type=com.mongoosetech.model.Book
 collection=% library.getBooks() %
  jsp:getProperty name=book property=name/br/
 /model:iterator
 
 where library.getBooks() returns a java.util.Collection of 
 Book. I have 2
 classes:
 
 public class NestedTagInfo extends TagExtraInfo
 {
  public VariableInfo[] getVariableInfo(TagData data)
  {
   return new VariableInfo[]
   {
new 
 VariableInfo(data.getAttributeString(name),
 data.getAttributeString(type), true, VariableInfo.NESTED)
 };
 }
 }
 
 and
 
 public class IteratorTag extends BodyTagSupport
 {
  public int doStartTag()
  {
   if (iterator == null || !iterator.hasNext()) 
 return SKIP_BODY;
   pageContext.setAttribute(name, iterator.next(), 
 PageContext.PAGE_SCOPE);
   return EVAL_BODY_TAG;
  }
 
  public int doAfterBody() throws JspException
  {
   if( !iterator.hasNext()) return SKIP_BODY;
   pageContext.setAttribute(name, iterator.next(), 
 PageContext.PAGE_SCOPE);
   return EVAL_BODY_TAG;
  }
  public int doEndTag() throws JspException
  {
   try
   {
  if(bodyContent != null)

 bodyContent.writeOut(bodyContent.getEnclosingWriter());
   }
   catch(java.io.IOException e)
   {
   throw new JspException(e.getMessage());
   }
   return EVAL_PAGE;
  }
  public void setName(String name)
  {
   this.name = name;
  }
  public void setCollection(Collection collection)
  {
   if (collection.size()  0) iterator = 
 collection.iterator();
  }
  public void setType(String type)
  {
   this.type = type;
  }
  private String name;
  private String type;
  private Iterator iterator;
 }
 
 defined in the com.mongoosetech.tags package and a taglib.tld 
 that looks
 like:
 
 taglib
  ...
  tag
   nameiterator/name
   tagclasscom.mongoosetech.tags.IteratorTag/tagclass
  
 teiclasscom.mongoosetech.tags.IteratorTagInfo/teiclass
   bodycontentJSP/bodycontent
   attribute
namename/name
requiredtrue/required
   /attribute
   attribute
nametype/name
requiredfalse/required
   /attribute
   attribute
namecollection/name
requiredtrue/required
rtexprvaluetrue/rtexprvalue
   /attribute
  /tag
 /taglib
 
 and is a part of WEB-INF/lib/tags.jar which has the structure:
 
 com/mongoosetech/tags/IteratorTag.class
 com/mongoosetech/tags/IteratorTagInfo.class
 META-INF/taglib.tld
 
 Finally, I have a web.xml with an entry to point to the tag library:
 
 taglib
  taglib-uritags/taglib-uri
  taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/tags.jar/taglib-location
 /taglib
 
 
 Anyone have any ideas why this is happening? Thanks...
 
 Kit Cragin
 VP of Product Development
 Mongoose Technology, Inc.
 www.mongoosetech.com
 
 





RE: How to select an other datasource then the default one?

2000-10-12 Thread Frank Eggink

Ralph and others,

My datasources.xml looks like:

?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE data-sources PUBLIC "Orion data-sources" 
"http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/data-sources.dtd"

data-sources
data-source
name="Default data-source"
class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
location="jdbc/DefaultDS"
pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS"
xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS"
ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS"
url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/DB"
connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver"
username="xxx"
password="xxx"
/
data-source
name="Default data-source"
class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
location="jdbc/TestDS"
pooled-location="jdbc/TestPooledDS"
xa-location="jdbc/xa/TestXADS"
ejb-location="jdbc/TestEJBDS"
url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/Test"
connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver"
username="xxx"
password="xxx"
/
/data-sources

Guess there is not much wrong in that. The trouble I have is making the 
application point to the right datasource. Using CMP I would expect you can 
add some option somewhere to tell the server to use that connection, but 
where do I need to put the great 'use-this-datasource' option? 
Orion-application.xml seemed logical to me.

Frank

On Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:41 PM, Ralph Crawford 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 Here's an example of a data-sources.xml file with two different
 datasources...

   data-source
   name="Default data-source"
   class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
   location="jdbc/DefaultDS"
   pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS"
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS"
   ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS"
   url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@blah.domain.com:1521:dbinstance"
   connection-driver="oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver"
   username="username"
   password="password"
   /

   data-source
   name="Othert data-source"
   class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
   location="jdbc/OtherDS"
   pooled-location="jdbc/OtherPooledDS"
   url="jdbc:postgresql://blah.domain.com:5432/postgres"
   connection-driver="postgresql.Driver"
   username="username"
   password="password"
   /

 Obviously, in this case, I've got both the Oracle and Postgres drivers in 
my
 orion/lib directory.  Then when you want to get a pooled connection, 
you'd
 use...

 connection = ((javax.sql.DataSource)
 ctx.lookup("jdbc/DefaultPooledDS")).getConnection();


 and if you wanted to use the other database, you'd use jdbc/OtherPooledDS 
 instead of jdbc/DefaultPooledDS.

 Hope this helps.

 Ralph


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 Hi, How do you select a different datasource?
 
 I have defined a second data source in the datasources.xml file. Also I
 have added "default-data-source="jdbc/TestEJBDS" to the
 orion-application.xml file in the application-deployments/application
 directory, as suggested by the manual.
 
 It doesn't work though,
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RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Krueger


I would reconsider implementing such low-level functionality. the deeper 
you dig into it, the more little things you will discover that have the 
potential to break your neck. It's probably not that hard to this stuff up 
and running. the problem is to get it really stable. we're currently 
planning on the following setup.

2 rather powerful dual processor machines, that run orion and interbase 6 
on linux with heartbeat for ip-address takeover. one is running as a hot 
standby and they are syncronized using the IBReplicator product that was 
already mentioned in this thread (http://www.synectics.co.za/). the 
performance of the syncronization that's described in the docs is enough 
for our application to believe it will basically be real-time (something 
like 200 updates per second over a 10Mbit link and pentium 200s).

of course this only takes care of availability and doesn't do any load 
balancing but for us the performance we can achieve by using good caching 
algorithms at the application level and fast dual processor machines is 
enough. for a really scalable solution I'd probably look at sybase (the 
commercial versions, the free version doesn't support clustering). of 
course, if the database is not the bottleneck one could use the standby 
solution for the database only and put a real cluster of orion servers in 
front.

robert

At 23:37 11.10.00 , you wrote:
Hi!

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Robert Krueger wrote:

[description of budget-friendly Orion setup - snip]

  sounds very nice but what about the database? how do you cluster that
  without spending an arm and a leg? our experience is, that it's not that
  hard to set up clustered web services with static pages and servlets but
  the really expensive part is, when you want that high availability for 
 your
  database. it doesn't buy you much if you have highly available ejbs when
  the database server goes down. many people use clustered apache/jserv on
  linux and cheap pc-hardware for high volume transactional websites but 
 have
  a large enterprise sun running oracle in the back. anyone out there 
 running
  a configuration with orion that includes a database with failover that
  doesn't blow up the budget too much (compared to other components)?

Ah. Deja Vu. :-) I'm involved with a startup company here in Sweden,
and considering Orion as app server we are also contemplating what
non-arm-and-a-leg-spending ways there are to enable a database for
failover and load-balancing functionality.

We are looking at either PostgreSQL, InterBase, SAP-DB or MySQL (yeah,
I know) as our database. We have not seen any currently freely available
solutions for failover for either of those (anybody?). So, we are thinking
about implementing something by ourselves. Nothing definite so far, but:

- The synchronizing of data will be done on the application-level, not
   by the database servers themselves. See below.
- We'll avoid numeric sequences for record keys to make this easier.
   We will implement some unique key-generation scheme based on whatever
   is needed to make keys unique but still not rely on strict monotone
   numeric sequences or similar ( md5(table_name+timestamp()), perhaps? ).
- We'll code a DB-abstraction layer that takes care of executing
   all update queries against all configured database servers and
   all read queries against one of them known to be alive and lightly
   loaded (or not recently accessed, or some other scheme).
- I guess that if we need database-specific stuff such as stored
   procedures or similar we need to use the same database software
   for all failover machines.
- If we stay away from database-specifics we could possibly allow
   failover between different database products. Would be cool.
   Using straight, standard SQL, could make this feasible.

These are very premature thoughts, we are getting closer to the
planning and design stage, but we haven't actually started yet.
Any thoughts? Ridiculously naive? Or possible to pull off?

  robert

/David

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RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps

2000-10-12 Thread Frank Eggink

I was wondering whether it would be possible to let the orion server(s) switch 
datasource as a sort of
failover procedure. I haven't digged myself into clustering and failover, but here's 
the idea.

Assuming you have made sure the server are running with failover and you have bought 
yourself a SCSI-raid
configuration with a Y connection (that is the disk are connected to two systems), the 
largest risk of failure
is the database server. If however orion could automatically switch  on some sort of 
connection timeout from
one server to another, you can solve this problem almost to easy.

This stil leaves you with a number of risks like:
- write failure of the db-software corrupting your database.
- program logic failures.
- site disaster (fire, flooding, tornado etc.).
- human error.

Depending on the sort system I guess, I could live with that.


Frank

On Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:37 PM, David Kinnvall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Robert Krueger wrote:
 
 [description of budget-friendly Orion setup - snip]
 
  sounds very nice but what about the database? how do you cluster that 
  without spending an arm and a leg? our experience is, that it's not that 
  hard to set up clustered web services with static pages and servlets but 
  the really expensive part is, when you want that high availability for your 
  database. it doesn't buy you much if you have highly available ejbs when 
  the database server goes down. many people use clustered apache/jserv on 
  linux and cheap pc-hardware for high volume transactional websites but have 
  a large enterprise sun running oracle in the back. anyone out there running 
  a configuration with orion that includes a database with failover that 
  doesn't blow up the budget too much (compared to other components)?
 
 Ah. Deja Vu. :-) I'm involved with a startup company here in Sweden,
 and considering Orion as app server we are also contemplating what
 non-arm-and-a-leg-spending ways there are to enable a database for
 failover and load-balancing functionality.
 
 We are looking at either PostgreSQL, InterBase, SAP-DB or MySQL (yeah,
 I know) as our database. We have not seen any currently freely available
 solutions for failover for either of those (anybody?). So, we are thinking
 about implementing something by ourselves. Nothing definite so far, but:
 
 - The synchronizing of data will be done on the application-level, not
   by the database servers themselves. See below.
 - We'll avoid numeric sequences for record keys to make this easier.
   We will implement some unique key-generation scheme based on whatever
   is needed to make keys unique but still not rely on strict monotone
   numeric sequences or similar ( md5(table_name+timestamp()), perhaps? ).
 - We'll code a DB-abstraction layer that takes care of executing
   all update queries against all configured database servers and
   all read queries against one of them known to be alive and lightly
   loaded (or not recently accessed, or some other scheme).
 - I guess that if we need database-specific stuff such as stored
   procedures or similar we need to use the same database software
   for all failover machines.
 - If we stay away from database-specifics we could possibly allow
   failover between different database products. Would be cool.
   Using straight, standard SQL, could make this feasible.
 
 These are very premature thoughts, we are getting closer to the
 planning and design stage, but we haven't actually started yet.
 Any thoughts? Ridiculously naive? Or possible to pull off?
 
  robert
 
 /David
 
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 - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WWW: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d0dak/ -
 --/David---
 
 




RE: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Krueger

At 16:43 12.10.00 , you wrote:
I'm not sure why noone has mentioned Sybase yet? Sybase 11.0.3.3 on Linux is
free for all uses, and supports replication, backup servers etc etc etc.

Replication using 11.0.3.3? Do you mean with the additional Replication 
Server (commercial) or is there another way? Are you using replication with 
that version of sybase? We are deciding between sybase 11.0.3.3 and 
Interbase 6 and are currently leaning towards Interbase because we don't 
know how Sybase will support this product in the future. What if they 
decide not to support JDBC X.X for the free versions at some point. then 
you'll be forced to buy the commercial version. that's why we felt we'd go 
for Interbase if it works well with orion. We have installed it here and 
have migrated one large orion application (ejb and direct sql) that was 
running on adabas to interbase. that took two days and seems to work very 
well.

it's a shame Software AG failed so miserably making Adabas D a 
well-supported product. they were the first commercial database vendor to 
port to linux and the software has all the features you need (including 
clustering support) at an unbeatable price. somehow nobody outside germany 
seems to use it, which is why we'll eventually be dropping it (no community 
support).

robert

Very full featured and quite fast from my experience, a true enterprise
RDBMS.

Mike

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Rimov
  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 3:06 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]
 
 
  At 06:24 PM 10/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
  Why would you use mySQL over Postgresl?  They're both free, but
  Postgresql
  has a
  JDBC driver that's XA-compliant.  Also, mySQL is known to blow
  away your whole
  database if it has a bad crash, whereas Postgresql is better at
  persisting
  data
  through a bad crash.
  
  How does Interbase 6 compare to Postgresql?  Is it free?
 
  Interbase is now free.  It used to be a commercial Database sold by
  Inprise/Borland.  Because this is the first opensource release,
  not all the
  new features for IB6 are fully available for ODBC and JDBC yet.  I've
  worked with the JDBC drivers, and I have no complaints.  Drivers that
  support all the new features are in the works (ODBC drivers are in beta,
  JDBC drivers are still in development).
 
  Interbase does support transactions and blobs.  Most current users of
  Interbase are from Borland Delphi and C++ Builder camps.
 
  There's a company out of South Africa that's offering a
  replication engine
  that might be useful for people trying to set up a failover-capable
  system.  (Don't have any details on hand... sorry)
 
  As far as speed goes, I don't know how it compares to postgresql.  Mers,
  inc. has an online full-text search setup of all the Inprise newsgroups
  made from their own commercial extensions to interbase.  Its pretty
  snappy.  It exists on http://www.mers.com/
 
  And finally, for windows users, there's a very nice management
  console that
  you can use to locally or remotely administer your database.
  (The database
  itself doesn't have to reside on windows)
 
  I think that's about all I can say about it.  The biggest problem it has
  right now is that the multi-threaded server version doesn't scale
  well with
  multiple processors.  Of course, since its open source, we don't have to
  wait until Borland releases a new version a year down the road to
  get that
  feature fully going. :-)
 
  Hope this clarifies information on it!
   -Mike
 
 
 
 


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(-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt,
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RE: allow/deny host access

2000-10-12 Thread Goel, Deepak

Hello,

I believe so. Look at the Orion documentation for web-app settings:

http://www.orionserver.com/docs/orion-web.xml.html

--Deepak

-Original Message-
From: Mike Atkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:03 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: allow/deny host access


Hi,

Is possible to do host based access control with orion in a similar way to
apache i.e.
Deny from all
Allow from xxx.xxx.

We have a directory on a site which we only want computers from the client's
network to have access to ( accounting and admin pages ).

Cheers,

Mike





Re: XSLT processors

2000-10-12 Thread Christian Sell

To my knowledge, Xerces is an XML parser, and Xalan does the XSLT stuff.
Hope you got that right in your book :-).

I used Xerces to write a custom tag for a JSP book I co-wrote that's coming
out
in a month or so.  The tag looks like this on a JSP, for example:

synd:rdf rdfURL="http://www.slashdot.org/slashdot.rdf"
  xslURI="xml/rdf092.xsl"/

It's slowed by the initial request for the RDF page, but if you have all
your
XML and XSL local or in a database, this stuff goes much quicker (but doing
syndication will always require someone/something to hit the Web for
updates).
The code is very simple and just uses the Xerces APIs to do the processing.

You could also include the dynamic XML output of one JSP into another JSP
or
servlet, which could then call XSLT engine APIs and a stylesheet to convert
the
XML to another type of data.

My main beef about Xerces is that it's 1.5 MB.  That's way too big if all
you
want is a fast, light XSLT engine.  But its' free and it's got features and
it
works well and its very easy to use.  James Clark has a lightweight XSLT
processor:







RE: Restricting access by IP

2000-10-12 Thread Goel, Deepak

Hello,

Look at the Orion documentation:

http://www.orionserver.com/docs/orion-web.xml.html

--Deepak

-Original Message-
From: Aleksi Kallio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 3:00 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Restricting access by IP


How to restrict access to Orion server to some IP-pattern? 

It could be also per wep-app.






RE: Saving JSP responses

2000-10-12 Thread Goel, Deepak

Hello,

Why do you want to forward to the jsp page. If you just want to capture the
response from the jsp page, you can create a URL object and do a GET or POST
and capture the output.

One thing I'm not sure about is session management - whether a new session
will be created or the current session will be reused.

--Deepak

-Original Message-
From: Claudio Cordova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:20 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Saving JSP responses


Hello,

I am a newbie on JSP and I am trying to forward a request fom a servlet to a
jsp page and some how read the response and save it into a file without
sending the result to the browser. Instead, I want repeate the process as
many times as I need. Then responde with a different HTML response. Is this
possible?

Claudio





vm stability on linux

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Krueger


I know this is getting a little OT but I believe it might be important to 
some of you.

We've just upgraded to the latest glibc upudates (both redhat and suse have 
one) and seen a remarkable improvement in stability running orion on SMP 
machines, especially on redhat.

robert



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EJB 2.0 CMP question

2000-10-12 Thread Joni

Hi!
I asked this question a few days ago but didn't get any answer yet. Can I
have container managed relationships between dependent objects? And if so,
is the creation protocol which is specified in the chapter 9.4.4.1
implemented in Orion 1.3.8? 

Please answer so that I can stop my trial-and-error development cycle :)

Joni
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





RE: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]

2000-10-12 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes

Sybase JDBC drivers are called "JConnect". Current version is 5.2 (for
JDBC2) and 4.2 (JDBC1)

I had a few problems with them ages ago and bought a commercial driver -
never tried again, but they have evolved I think.

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Kinnvall
 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 5:29 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]


 Hi!

 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
  I'm not sure why noone has mentioned Sybase yet? Sybase
 11.0.3.3 on Linux is
  free for all uses, and supports replication, backup servers etc etc etc.
  Very full featured and quite fast from my experience, a true enterprise
  RDBMS.

 And JDBC drivers for Sybase? Last time I tried to get them from Sybase
 I failed miserably. Couldn't find them, not to mention download them.
 I seem to remember a very awkward system with registration and icky
 navigation to get to the drivers at all...is that easier now? Maybe
 I gave up to late. :-)

 Enough rambling:

 - Where can the JDBC drivers for Sybase be downloaded?
 - Which version should be used?
 - Any special things worth knowing about Sybase and its JDBC drivers
   that could cause problems otherwise?

  Mike

 Thanx for any help,

 David.

 Reach me
 by
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 http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d0dak/ -
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 -








Re: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps

2000-10-12 Thread wim veninga

Hi Kevin,

Do you create the database in IBConsole ? Because the ibconsole has an bug when
creating databases.
If so, you probably have to get the newer version of IBConsole :
URL : http://www.interbase.com/open/downloads/ib_download.html
goto the miscellaneous section (at the bottumn of the page) and download
IBConsole - build 308. You must overwrite the ibconsole in your interbase
install directory. If you want the interbase-database-schema.xml (for orion cmp
managed persistence) mail me and i will sent it to you.

Further more i think interbase 6 is an very good database but I would like to
know
if it handle a large amount of connections at the same time (like 500 or
something).
There isn't much info about that in the docs.

Greetings Wim Veninga.



"Duffey, Kevin" wrote:

 Hey Scott,

 Interbase 6 is pretty nice in my opinion. Its SQL 92 compliant (if that
 means anything), its completely free and is now open-source, has a type IV
 jdbc driver, and it has a VERY small foot-print. It runs on most platforms I
 believe, and thus far its pretty darn fast. However, I have not been able to
 successfully create a database in it. I keep getting some stupid error when
 I try to create a database and I can't find any information on it. I'll have
 to post to the Interbase site probably..or maybe there is a newer version. I
 wish there was some more detailed info on how to completely set up
 Interbase. I can however connect via my java app and get connections out. I
 just can't seem to create tables and what not. Anyways..I worked with
 Interbase 4 and it was pretty fast, so I am sure 6 is better in many ways
 (that is not always true..but I hope it is).

  -Original Message-
  From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:25 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps
 
 
  Why would you use mySQL over Postgresl?  They're both free,
  but Postgresql has a
  JDBC driver that's XA-compliant.  Also, mySQL is known to
  blow away your whole
  database if it has a bad crash, whereas Postgresql is better
  at persisting data
  through a bad crash.
 
  How does Interbase 6 compare to Postgresql?  Is it free?
 
  Scott Stirling
  West Newton, MA
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Duffey, Kevin
   Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:01 PM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps
  
  
   Hi,
  
sounds very nice but what about the database? how do you
  cluster that
without spending an arm and a leg? our experience is, that
it's not that
hard to set up clustered web services with static pages and
servlets but
the really expensive part is, when you want that high
availability for your
database. it doesn't buy you much if you have highly
available ejbs when
the database server goes down. many people use clustered
apache/jserv on
linux and cheap pc-hardware for high volume transactional
websites but have
a large enterprise sun running oracle in the back. anyone out
there running
a configuration with orion that includes a database with
failover that
doesn't blow up the budget too much (compared to other
  components)?
  
   Well, to start off with there is mySQL and the one I like
  the most is
   Interbase 6..a free powerful RDBMS. However, as far as
  clustering them..I
   don't quite know the best way. I would think a
  load-balancer or a switch or
   something, would be required. Nobody ever said it was
  cheap! ;) I used to
   think $25,000 could easily set up a website from front to
  back, software,
   hardware, etc..but not even close these days. If you are
  just starting out,
   I would use Orion for front-end and ejb-logic tiers in a clustered
   environment (for developing/testing), with a single server
  running mySQL or
   Interbase for the database. Once you get some funding and
  move beyond the
   concept phase, you should put a sizeable chunk to invest in
  co-locating your
   site and doing the full load-balancing setup. I would
  estimate a cheap setup
   with 2 front-end web/servlet servers failed over, 2 ejb
  servers, and a
   database cluster will still run around $100,000, to co-lo
  it..which is
   probably the best thing to do to make sure its up 24/7.
  
  
 
 





Invalidating an Entity bean

2000-10-12 Thread Peter Delahunty

Hi gurus

How do I do this cleanly.

I have and Entity that has attributes A,B,C and D. These attributes are all
read from database tables.

A and B are read from Table 1
C and D are read from Table 2

So I have Entity Bean 1, this is loaded by the app server (perhaps by a
findByPrimaryKey) method. This means that Entity Bean 1 is now a cache of
the data in A,B,C and D. 

However while this entity bean is in the cache, via a session bean I change
the data of C and D in table 2. This mean that Entity Bean 1 now has dirty
data. So the question is how do I force the Entity beans to do and EJB Load.


Also the data in C and D in table 2 may be shared by N number of entity
beans so I may need to refresh N number of Entity Beans depending on which
ones are in the cache.

I only want to call EJB load for Entity beans currently in the cache and of
these I only want to call ejb load for the ones that refer to the changed
data.

Cheers Peter




NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Keith

Hi Guys,

I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down
cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order to
shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is?

cheers

Rob





Re: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]

2000-10-12 Thread Christian Sell

it's a shame Software AG failed so miserably making Adabas D a
well-supported product. they were the first commercial database vendor to
port to linux and the software has all the features you need (including
clustering support) at an unbeatable price. somehow nobody outside germany
seems to use it, which is why we'll eventually be dropping it (no community
support).

Robert,

dont you think that this is going to improve now that SAP DB (same  as
ADABAS D?!) is on the way to open source??





RE: I cannot use ejbmaker

2000-10-12 Thread Martijn van Berkum

Hi,

I found out about the same bug and entered a new bug report in bugzilla
yesterday, its number is #106. Hope they fix it soon.

Bye,

Martijn
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Eggink
 Sent: woensdag 11 oktober 2000 18:58
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: I cannot use ejbmaker


 Neither have I.

 On Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:06 PM, Sean Han
 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  Hi, everyone:
 
  When using ejbmaker, I found I cannot restore it from a
 saved .skeleton
  file. No matter what I entered for the bean, I always get
 an empty package
  when I reopen it. Can anyone tell me what's wrong?
 
  regards,
 
  Sean
 
 






Charsets, i18n and confusion

2000-10-12 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes

Guys,

I really need some help here - anything you can all do to help is fantastic.

I'm trying to build a site in Big 5 characters, but sometimes they come up
and sometimes they're just garbled. To complicate matters, sometimes people
are submitting the form with Big5 characters.

Here's the scenario:

Big 5 text - web form - EJB - Database...

DB - EJB - getter method - web site

What encodings should I use where? If the text is Big5 encoded ASCII (is
that right? text typed from a Big5 keyboard into the form) do I need to
manually convert it to unicode somehow before putting it in the entity bean?

Does it matter what encoding the entry form page is in? Will it affect the
result?

Are there any current bugs with i18n that you know of?

Has anyone used Big5 with Orion extensively?

Cheers - you'll save my bacon,
Mike





calling ProductServlet

2000-10-12 Thread Kuno Baeriswyl

Hey,
I'm testing the Product example with EJB's.

How I must call the ProductServlet? I tried to put it in the classes
directory, but it doesn't work!

Some one could help me?

Thanks
kuno

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Library path.

2000-10-12 Thread Miles Daffin



Hi People,

The /config/application.xml definesa general 
library path for theServer.

library path="../lib" /
Is it possible to:
1) Add to this. If so what is the syntax? (';' as a 
path separator within the same quotes?)
2) I would like to have custom lib paths for each 
app. Can this be done? (I have tried adding the library tag to an 
application.xml without success).

If I have missed something in the documentation 
please point out the page.

Thanks.

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Rotterdam

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Re: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]

2000-10-12 Thread Sven van 't Veer



Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
 
 Sybase JDBC drivers are called "JConnect". Current version is 5.2 (for
 JDBC2) and 4.2 (JDBC1)
 
 I had a few problems with them ages ago and bought a commercial driver -
 never tried again, but they have evolved I think.


  And JDBC drivers for Sybase? Last time I tried to get them from Sybase
  I failed miserably. Couldn't find them, not to mention download them.
  I seem to remember a very awkward system with registration and icky
  navigation to get to the drivers at all...is that easier now? Maybe
  I gave up to late. :-)

  - Where can the JDBC drivers for Sybase be downloaded?
  - Which version should be used?
  - Any special things worth knowing about Sybase and its JDBC drivers
that could cause problems otherwise?
The drivers can actially be found at sybase ;-) It took me a couple of
hours to find them their site really sucks in relation to navigation.
I'm using JConnect 5.2 and it's a pretty good driver (much better imho
than for example DB2  Oracle drivers. I've heard of one bug, but
haven't seen it myself, it's simmilar to the bug in the older MySql (mm)
drivers, and does not allow images of more than 32k to be inserted into
or obtained from the database.

But I agree with the above mentioned. IMHO the free linux version is the
best i've seen so far. Highly scalable, quite fast (select * from where
pk='x' on a table with more than 7 million records is almost
instantanious and several joins on tables with more than 7 million
records goes in less than a second), it's  slow (imho) in populating the
db (700 records took about 14 hrs (4 on mysql!)). The docs are great
(about seven books(ps) with 500+ pages)

sven
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RE: XSLT processors

2000-10-12 Thread Scott Stirling

Oh, you caught that!  I thought it might slip by after I sent it and realized it
myself.  Yes, I did get it right in the book.

More pluses/minuses on Xerces and Xalan:

Xalan Java is the XSLT processor, which was 843 KB last time I checked.  It
depends on Xerces by default, which was/is around 1.5 MB.  The plus is that you
can use Xalan with other XML parsers that support DOM 2/SAX 1.

Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Sell
 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 3:10 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: XSLT processors


 To my knowledge, Xerces is an XML parser, and Xalan does the XSLT stuff.
 Hope you got that right in your book :-).






RE: Library path.

2000-10-12 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes



Add 
more library tags for each path, one per tag.

No 
custom lib paths for each app as far as I know, just throw it in an EJB module, 
that's visible to all parts of the app. (and you can reload those 
classes)

Mike

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miles 
  DaffinSent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 10:19 PMTo: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: Library path.
  Hi People,
  
  The /config/application.xml definesa 
  general library path for theServer.
  
  library path="../lib" /
  Is it possible to:
  1) Add to this. If so what is the syntax? (';' as 
  a path separator within the same quotes?)
  2) I would like to have custom lib paths for each 
  app. Can this be done? (I have tried adding the library tag to an 
  application.xml without success).
  
  If I have missed something in the documentation 
  please point out the page.
  
  Thanks.
  
  --Miles DaffinJava 
  DeveloperHOT Company BV Mathernesserlaan 171 3014 
  HA Rotterdam
  
  Land: +31 (0) 10 476 2500Fax: +31 (0) 10 476 
  5762Mobile: +31 (0) 2959 1423http://www.hotobjects.nl


Sources for change unix user

2000-10-12 Thread George Terziev

Hi, 
i now that can change the user who start the orion
under Unix, but a haven`t the sources for libnative...
Could you send me the sources or explain me how do
that.

Thanks George

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RE: XSLT processors

2000-10-12 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971



Hello 
everyone. If anyone has some standard HTML pages set up on Orion, without 
the corresponding servlets, EJBs, etc., I would love to see the XML 
configuration files that were set up.  I had to append this message, since 
I am not sure of the group address. 

  -Original Message-From: Duffey, Kevin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:57 
  PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: XSLT 
  processors
  I 
  would be interested in knowing how to even use an XSLT engine! I know I can 
  get JSP to output XML with a header, but how do I actually pass the XML to the 
  XSLT engine, and how do I specify I want HTML or WML output? Is it a servlet, 
  and you just call upon it somehow from a JSP page or when a request is made, 
  inside you grab the page using a URL connection to get XML output from the JSP 
  page, then pass it on to an XSLT engine somehow? I guess I should buy a book 
  on this topic..but I was hoping it would be easy enough to figure 
  out.
  
  Thanks.
  
  
-Original Message-From: Derek Akers 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:53 
AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: XSLT 
processors
 
 I have been using Xalan and JAXP as 
XSLT processors for the past little while, and have recently become aware of 
Saxon as well. I was wondering if there is anyone out there who has 
used all three (or at least some combination) at various times who would be 
willing to tell me what differences there are between the three re: 
processing efficiency, ease of use, documentation, community, 
etc.

Thanks,

Derek Akers

Internet Application DeveloperEldan Software, 
Torontowww.eldan.com


RE: XSLT processors

2000-10-12 Thread KirkYarina

Take a look at the XSLT Programmer's Reference:

http://www.bookpool.com/.x/micoqah72r/ss/1?qs=xslt


At 12:56 PM 10/11/00 -0700, you wrote:
I would be interested in knowing how to even use an XSLT engine! I know I 
can get JSP to output XML with a header, but how do I actually pass the 
XML to the XSLT engine, and how do I specify I want HTML or WML output? Is 
it a servlet, and you just call upon it somehow from a JSP page or when a 
request is made, inside you grab the page using a URL connection to get 
XML output from the JSP page, then pass it on to an XSLT engine somehow? I 
guess I should buy a book on this topic..but I was hoping it would be easy 
enough to figure out.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Derek Akers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:53 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: XSLT processors


 I have been using Xalan and JAXP as XSLT processors for the past 
 little while, and have recently become aware of Saxon as well.  I was 
 wondering if there is anyone out there who has used all three (or at 
 least some combination) at various times who would be willing to tell me 
 what differences there are between the three re: processing efficiency, 
 ease of use, documentation, community, etc.

Thanks,

Derek Akers

Internet Application Developer
Eldan Software, Toronto
http://www.eldan.comwww.eldan.com


Kirk Yarina
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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down

2000-10-12 Thread Sven van 't Veer



Robert Keith wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down
 cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order to
 shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is?
 
 cheers
 
 Rob
I guess it's the one you created with: java -jar orion.jar -install

sven

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NEWBIE QUESTION:Configuring a web application, that is not contained in a WAR file

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Keith

Hi Guys,

I have a quick question about deploying a Web application to Orion.I have a
directory that contains all the required classes, html, Java script etc.I
have also written the web.xml file describing the servlets that are
available in the application. There are no JSP pages or anything like that.

Can you give me a brief overview of how to get Orion to serve this
application.

I have tried adding it to the default-web-application.xml file, but have had
not success. The console tells me that it cannot find the application. When
I look at the HTTP properties in the Admin Console.

Thanx

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Klaus Thiele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:49 PM
To: Robert Keith
Subject: Re: NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down


Hi Robert,

 I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down
 cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order
to
 shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is?

you are not starting the server with the graphical console?
= java -jar orion.jar -console2
then you can easyly shutdown from there

otherwise do

java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin _admin_password_ -shutdown
(type only 'java -jar admin.jar' and you get some help)

hope that helps
  klaus

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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down

2000-10-12 Thread Miles Daffin

See the 'orion/Readme.txt' (should be renamed to README_FIRST.txt - I missed
it for days).

Follow the instructions. General ACL stuff is set in /config/principals.xml.

* To shutdown:java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost/ adminID
adminPass -shutdown
* To restart:java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost/ adminID
adminPass -restart

Some people (me too) have had trouble with -restart command. You can get all
kinds of Exceptions at various times, and I cannot see why (the weather?). I
run all commands from batch files so I know it's not typos. Mostly it works
but sometimes it doesn't. -shutdown almost always works. Ctrl + C works
every time!

 Hi Guys,

 I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down
 cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order
to
 shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is?

 cheers

 Rob







Re: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Krueger

At 13:58 12.10.00 , you wrote:
 it's a shame Software AG failed so miserably making Adabas D a
 well-supported product. they were the first commercial database vendor to
 port to linux and the software has all the features you need (including
 clustering support) at an unbeatable price. somehow nobody outside germany
 seems to use it, which is why we'll eventually be dropping it (no community
 support).

Robert,

dont you think that this is going to improve now that SAP DB (same  as
ADABAS D?!) is on the way to open source??


I was not aware of that. I just checked the docs and didn't find anything 
on clustering. Does it support that? I know Adabas D does (or used to?). 
Definitely worth a look, though. Thanks for the info.

Robert


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Re: Charsets, i18n and confusion

2000-10-12 Thread Richard Chuo
Hello Mike,

DB -> EJB -> getter method -> web site

What encodings should I use where? If the text is Big5 encoded ASCII (is
that right? text typed from a Big5 keyboard into the form) do I need to
manually convert it to unicode somehow before putting it in the entity bean?

Did you changed the encoding when getting the parameters from the web form?
We use java.io.InputStreamReader to change the encoding to "Big5".

Does it matter what encoding the entry form page is in? Will it affect the
result?
Yes, it does. 

Good luck!
Richard Chuo 

Re: Interbase Details [Was HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps]

2000-10-12 Thread Robert Krueger

At 13:58 12.10.00 , you wrote:
 it's a shame Software AG failed so miserably making Adabas D a
 well-supported product. they were the first commercial database vendor to
 port to linux and the software has all the features you need (including
 clustering support) at an unbeatable price. somehow nobody outside germany
 seems to use it, which is why we'll eventually be dropping it (no community
 support).

Robert,

dont you think that this is going to improve now that SAP DB (same  as
ADABAS D?!) is on the way to open source??

one more thing. have you used sap db with orion? if you have or will please 
keep the list posted how well everything works.

robert



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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down

2000-10-12 Thread Chris Woods

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:17:06PM +0100, Robert Keith wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 
 I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down
 cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order to
 shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is?

java -jar admin.jar ormi://localhost admin_user admin_password -shutdown

Give that a go. (It's _almost_ covered in the FAQ under "How do I restart
Orion?")

HTH.

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Re: NEWBIE QUESTION:Configuring a web application, that is not contained in a WAR file

2000-10-12 Thread Matt Brunner

the web app structure should look something like this(which is really just an
unpacked WAR)

web-app/
*.html, *.jsp, ...
WEB-INF/
web.xml
classes/
  loose classes(override lib
directory jarred classes)
lib/
 jar and zip files of classes


Then I believe you need to add a line to server.xml in orion/config that looks
like this:

application name="my app"  path="path/to/my/app"
deployment-directory="path/to/my/app/deploy" /


Hope this helps

-Matt





RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps

2000-10-12 Thread Steve Mabbutt

Wim,

We've used IB extensively for the past few years - it's an excellent
low-maintenance choice (DBA-free) for small to medium applications, but
doesn't scale well to large numbers of users or heavy loads.  Depending on
the OS platform, there is a hard limit of 250 simultaneous connections - but
we often run into concurrency problems well below that number, even on large
Sun servers.

E-mail me if you need more info,
Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of wim veninga
 Sent: 12 October 2000 18:53
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Re: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps


 Hi Kevin,

 Do you create the database in IBConsole ? Because the ibconsole
 has an bug when
 creating databases.
 If so, you probably have to get the newer version of IBConsole :
 URL : http://www.interbase.com/open/downloads/ib_download.html
 goto the miscellaneous section (at the bottumn of the page) and download
 IBConsole - build 308. You must overwrite the ibconsole in your interbase
 install directory. If you want the interbase-database-schema.xml
 (for orion cmp
 managed persistence) mail me and i will sent it to you.

 Further more i think interbase 6 is an very good database but I
 would like to
 know
 if it handle a large amount of connections at the same time (like 500 or
 something).
 There isn't much info about that in the docs.

 Greetings Wim Veninga.



 "Duffey, Kevin" wrote:

  Hey Scott,
 
  Interbase 6 is pretty nice in my opinion. Its SQL 92 compliant (if that
  means anything), its completely free and is now open-source,
 has a type IV
  jdbc driver, and it has a VERY small foot-print. It runs on
 most platforms I
  believe, and thus far its pretty darn fast. However, I have not
 been able to
  successfully create a database in it. I keep getting some
 stupid error when
  I try to create a database and I can't find any information on
 it. I'll have
  to post to the Interbase site probably..or maybe there is a
 newer version. I
  wish there was some more detailed info on how to completely set up
  Interbase. I can however connect via my java app and get
 connections out. I
  just can't seem to create tables and what not. Anyways..I worked with
  Interbase 4 and it was pretty fast, so I am sure 6 is better in
 many ways
  (that is not always true..but I hope it is).
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:25 PM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps
  
  
   Why would you use mySQL over Postgresl?  They're both free,
   but Postgresql has a
   JDBC driver that's XA-compliant.  Also, mySQL is known to
   blow away your whole
   database if it has a bad crash, whereas Postgresql is better
   at persisting data
   through a bad crash.
  
   How does Interbase 6 compare to Postgresql?  Is it free?
  
   Scott Stirling
   West Newton, MA
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Duffey, Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:01 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps
   
   
Hi,
   
 sounds very nice but what about the database? how do you
   cluster that
 without spending an arm and a leg? our experience is, that
 it's not that
 hard to set up clustered web services with static pages and
 servlets but
 the really expensive part is, when you want that high
 availability for your
 database. it doesn't buy you much if you have highly
 available ejbs when
 the database server goes down. many people use clustered
 apache/jserv on
 linux and cheap pc-hardware for high volume transactional
 websites but have
 a large enterprise sun running oracle in the back. anyone out
 there running
 a configuration with orion that includes a database with
 failover that
 doesn't blow up the budget too much (compared to other
   components)?
   
Well, to start off with there is mySQL and the one I like
   the most is
Interbase 6..a free powerful RDBMS. However, as far as
   clustering them..I
don't quite know the best way. I would think a
   load-balancer or a switch or
something, would be required. Nobody ever said it was
   cheap! ;) I used to
think $25,000 could easily set up a website from front to
   back, software,
hardware, etc..but not even close these days. If you are
   just starting out,
I would use Orion for front-end and ejb-logic tiers in a clustered
environment (for developing/testing), with a single server
   running mySQL or
Interbase for the database. Once you get some funding and
   move beyond the
concept phase, you should put a sizeable chunk to invest in
   co-locating your
site and doing the full load-balancing setup. I would
   estimate a cheap setup
with 2 front-end web/servlet servers failed over, 2 ejb
   servers, and a
database cluster will 

Re: Invalidating an Entity bean

2000-10-12 Thread Nick Newman

Hi Peter,

I'm not claiming guru-hood, but as far as I know you CAN'T do that cleanly.
 My thoughts on your best options are:

1) Tell Orion that the entity beans do not have exclusive write-access to
the database by setting exclusive-write-access="false" in the
orion-ejb-jar.xml (which is orion-specific).  I believe this causes the
data to be re-read at the start of every transaction.

2) Re-write your session bean to makes its database changes through the
entity beans rather than through direct JDBC.

Nick

At 12:02 PM 10/12/00 +0100, you wrote:
Hi gurus

How do I do this cleanly.

I have and Entity that has attributes A,B,C and D. These attributes are all
read from database tables.

A and B are read from Table 1
C and D are read from Table 2

So I have Entity Bean 1, this is loaded by the app server (perhaps by a
findByPrimaryKey) method. This means that Entity Bean 1 is now a cache of
the data in A,B,C and D. 

However while this entity bean is in the cache, via a session bean I change
the data of C and D in table 2. This mean that Entity Bean 1 now has dirty
data. So the question is how do I force the Entity beans to do and EJB Load.


Also the data in C and D in table 2 may be shared by N number of entity
beans so I may need to refresh N number of Entity Beans depending on which
ones are in the cache.

I only want to call EJB load for Entity beans currently in the cache and of
these I only want to call ejb load for the ones that refer to the changed
data.

Cheers Peter





RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps

2000-10-12 Thread Lorin Kobashigawa

As far as DB redundancy, 

I have heard that it is possible to have two boxes using a shared RAID that
holds the data.  The first box is the primary database, and if that one is
down, the second one takes over.  The RAID itself taking care of the disk
level redundancy, and the two boxes handling the System level redundency.  

I have never personally tried this, but it sounds intriguing. 

-Lkb

At 04:26 PM 10/11/00 -0700, Duffey, Kevin wrote:
Is a veritos cluster expensive? I know we are using that here with Oracle
8i, but I am not sure if that is outrageous in price, and if it works with
all db's, or if its specific. Also, does Oracle, IBM DB2, and so on support
clustering by themselves..or does it require 3rd party software to make this
work?


 -Original Message-
 From: David Kinnvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:37 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: HARDWARE FOR J2EE apps
 
 
 Hi!
 
 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Robert Krueger wrote:
 
 [description of budget-friendly Orion setup - snip]
 
  sounds very nice but what about the database? how do you 
 cluster that 
  without spending an arm and a leg? our experience is, that 
 it's not that 
  hard to set up clustered web services with static pages and 
 servlets but 
  the really expensive part is, when you want that high 
 availability for your 
  database. it doesn't buy you much if you have highly 
 available ejbs when 
  the database server goes down. many people use clustered 
 apache/jserv on 
  linux and cheap pc-hardware for high volume transactional 
 websites but have 
  a large enterprise sun running oracle in the back. anyone 
 out there running 
  a configuration with orion that includes a database with 
 failover that 
  doesn't blow up the budget too much (compared to other components)?
 
 Ah. Deja Vu. :-) I'm involved with a startup company here in Sweden,
 and considering Orion as app server we are also contemplating what
 non-arm-and-a-leg-spending ways there are to enable a database for
 failover and load-balancing functionality.
 
 We are looking at either PostgreSQL, InterBase, SAP-DB or MySQL (yeah,
 I know) as our database. We have not seen any currently 
 freely available
 solutions for failover for either of those (anybody?). So, we 
 are thinking
 about implementing something by ourselves. Nothing definite 
 so far, but:
 
 - The synchronizing of data will be done on the application-level, not
   by the database servers themselves. See below.
 - We'll avoid numeric sequences for record keys to make this easier.
   We will implement some unique key-generation scheme based 
 on whatever
   is needed to make keys unique but still not rely on strict monotone
   numeric sequences or similar ( md5(table_name+timestamp()), 
 perhaps? ).
 - We'll code a DB-abstraction layer that takes care of executing
   all update queries against all configured database servers and
   all read queries against one of them known to be alive and lightly
   loaded (or not recently accessed, or some other scheme).
 - I guess that if we need database-specific stuff such as stored
   procedures or similar we need to use the same database software
   for all failover machines.
 - If we stay away from database-specifics we could possibly allow
   failover between different database products. Would be cool.
   Using straight, standard SQL, could make this feasible.
 
 These are very premature thoughts, we are getting closer to the
 planning and design stage, but we haven't actually started yet.
 Any thoughts? Ridiculously naive? Or possible to pull off?
 
  robert
 
 /David
 
 Reach me 
 by
 - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WWW: 
 http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d0dak/ -
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RE: tag library problem with attributes

2000-10-12 Thread Kit Cragin
Title: RE: tag library problem with attributes



Thanks! Amazing how you can stare at code for hours and 
then someone comes along and notices the problem 
immediately!

- 
Kit

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus 
  RydinSent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:25 AMTo: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: RE: tag library problem with 
  attributes
  Kit, should that be %=library.getBooks()% (notice the equals sign missing in your 
  code) 


SSL question

2000-10-12 Thread Kit


Hi all

I have a problem using the command below.

keytool -keystore keystore -keyalg "RSA" -import -trustcacerts -file my.host.com.cer

I get this error:

keytool error: Failed to establish chain from reply


But, this command worked fine

keytool -import -trustcacerts -file my.host.com.cer



Is there any problem using the second command, since it's missing some

arguments as indicated in the ssl-how-to documentation.

Thanks

-kit





Re: NEWBIE QUESTION:Configuring a web application, that is not contained in a WAR file

2000-10-12 Thread Miles Daffin

 Can you give me a brief overview of how to get Orion to serve this
 application.
1) Have you go the thing to serve the default website and its default
application?
2) If 1 look at the supplied docs - the How-To's section.
3) Then look at: http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/
Summary of Primer:
## BASIC STEPS ###

Step 1: Setup directory structure

Snip

Step 8: Write the Web deployment descriptor
- web.xml: Servlets  aliases.

Snip

Step 10: Install the application
To actually install our application, we need to add the following line to
server.xml
in the Orion configuration directory (orion/config):
 application  name="orion-primer"
   path="path to ear file"  /
In my case:

 application  name="orion-primer"
   path="/home/ernst/projects/orion-primer/rel/orion-primer.ear"
/

Step 11: Bind the web application - ***
Now we need to bind the web application to the default site.
This is done by adding the following line to the file default-web-site.xml
in the Orion configuration directory:
 web-app  application="orion-primer"
   name="orion-primer-web"
   root="/orion-primer"  /

Step 12: Start Orion

I combined this with the directory structure suggested in the How-To's
section: /docs/application-creation-howto.html.

It takes a while to get your head around the relationships between the
varios XML files - Orion's and the ones that link up an app. I have got an
app serving HTML, JSP, Servlet as a basic development env in about 3/4 days.





Re: NEWBIE QUESTION:Configuring a web application, that is not contained in a WAR file

2000-10-12 Thread Miles Daffin

 Can you give me a brief overview of how to get Orion to serve this
 application.
1) Have you go the thing to serve the default website and its default
application?
2) If 1 look at the supplied docs - the How-To's section.
3) Then look at: http://www.znerd.demon.nl/orion-primer/
Summary of Primer:
## BASIC STEPS ###

Step 1: Setup directory structure

Snip

Step 8: Write the Web deployment descriptor
- web.xml: Servlets  aliases.

Snip

Step 10: Install the application
To actually install our application, we need to add the following line to
server.xml
in the Orion configuration directory (orion/config):
 application  name="orion-primer"
   path="path to ear file"  /
In my case:

 application  name="orion-primer"
   path="/home/ernst/projects/orion-primer/rel/orion-primer.ear"
/

Step 11: Bind the web application - ***
Now we need to bind the web application to the default site.
This is done by adding the following line to the file default-web-site.xml
in the Orion configuration directory:
 web-app  application="orion-primer"
   name="orion-primer-web"
   root="/orion-primer"  /

Step 12: Start Orion

I combined this with the directory structure suggested in the How-To's
section: /docs/application-creation-howto.html.

It takes a while to get your head around the relationships between the
varios XML files - Orion's and the ones that link up an app. I have got an
app serving HTML, JSP, Servlet as a basic development env in about 3/4 days.

You don't need to mess with EJBs at 1st, if ever

Last tip: look at the Orion default web app structure.







Problems with EJB and JNDI-context

2000-10-12 Thread Nils Frohberg

Hi,

I am facing a problem with my EJBs that i cannot solve. I try to access a EJB via a 
JSP page:

%-- Setting up an error page --%
%@ page errorPage="/errorpage.jsp" %
%-- Taglibs --%
%@ taglib uri="ejbtags" prefix="ejb" %
ejb:useHome id="user" type="de.tako.userHome" location="java:comp/env/ejb/user" /
html
head
titletest/title
/head
body
test
/body
/html

This is the result i get (thru errorpage.jsp):

javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: NamingException: Error instantiating web-app 
JNDI-context: No location specified and no suitable instance of the type 
'de.tako.user' found for the ejb-ref ejb/user
at com.evermind.ejb.taglib.UseHomeTag.doStartTag(Compiled Code)
at __jspPage0_index_jsp._jspService(Compiled Code)
at com.orionserver.http.OrionHttpJspPage.service(Compiled Code)
at com.evermind.server.http.HttpApplication.xa(Compiled Code)
at com.evermind.server.http.JSPServlet.service(Compiled Code)
at com.evermind.server.http.d3.so(Compiled Code)
at com.evermind.server.http.d3.sm(Compiled Code)
at com.evermind.server.http.ef.su(Compiled Code)
at com.evermind.server.http.ef.dn(JAX)
at com.evermind.util.f.run(Compiled Code)

My ejb-ref looks like this:

 ejb-ref
  ejb-ref-nameejb/user/ejb-ref-name
  ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
  homede.tako.userHome/home
  remotede.tako.user/remote
 /ejb-ref

Is there any aspect i am missing?

I could not find any clues on the list, nor in the web. Maybe someone can give me a 
hint? :)

thanks,
--nils

-- 
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**
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*http://www.tako.de/ *
**




Re: SSL question

2000-10-12 Thread Sach Jobb

the first line is correct. it's telling you that this certificate does not
match the private key (which you made with -genkey first, right?) in your
keystore.

in the second one you didn't specify where your keystore is.

this this and see if you have both the private key and the certificate in
your keystore.

keytool -keystore keystore -v -list


cheers,
sach



On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Kit wrote:

 
 Hi all
 
 I have a problem using the command below.
 
 keytool -keystore keystore -keyalg "RSA" -import -trustcacerts -file my.host.com.cer
 
 I get this error:
 
 keytool error: Failed to establish chain from reply
 
 
 But, this command worked fine
 
 keytool -import -trustcacerts -file my.host.com.cer
 
 
 
 Is there any problem using the second command, since it's missing some
 
 arguments as indicated in the ssl-how-to documentation.
 
 Thanks
 
 -kit
 
 





RE: ANSWER: How to use pooled connections in Orion?

2000-10-12 Thread Goel, Deepak

Hi,

The way you access the datasource is dependent on where will you access the
datasource from. I'm currently accessing the datasource from a servlet which
is pretty straightforward:

InitialContext ctx = new InitialContext();
DataSource ds = (DataSource)ctx.lookup("jdbc/SQLServerDS");

The above method might not be portable but it works for me so I mention it.
Note that you don't need any special Orion datasource name. DataSource is
defined in javax.sql.*

The portable way which require more work is to add the following to your
web.xml if you access the datasource from servlets and/or JSP:

context-param
param-namemyDS/param-name
param-valuejdbc/SQLServerDS/param-value
/context-param
resource-ref
descriptionA data source/description
res-ref-namemyDS/res-ref-name
res-typejavax.sql.DataSource/res-type
res-authCONTAINER/res-auth
/resource-ref

Now, you can access the datasource by:

InitialContext ctx = new InitialContext();
DataSource ds = (DataSource)ctx.lookup("java:comp/env/myDS");


--Deepak

-Original Message-
From: Luis M Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:39 AM
To: Goel, Deepak
Subject: Re: ANSWER: How to use pooled connections in Orion?




hi. thanks for posting this message, but could you show me how you make
the connection (a code snippet)? Looking at old postings I see some people
using a DataSource and some others a ConnectionPoolDataSource. Also, you
use a DriverManagerDataSource, some other people use a
ConnectionDataSource. 

cheers,
luis


On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Goel, Deepak wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 I've seen that many people are confused over how to setup pooled
connections
 in Orion (even I was initially). Now since I figured out through
 documentation and through some hit and try, I would like to share these
 instructions. Keep in mind that this is only one way of setting it up and
 there are other ways to setup depending on capabilities of the driver.
 
 1. Basically, the first step is to create a non-pooled version of your
data
 source. This can be done by adding something like this to your
 data-sources.xml:
 
   data-source
   class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource"
   name="SQLServerNP"
   location="jdbc/SQLServerNP"
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/SQLServerXANP"
   ejb-location="jdbc/SQLServerNP"
   connection-driver="com.inet.tds.TdsDriver"
   username="user"
   password="pwd"
   url="jdbc:inetdae:localhost"
   inactivity-timeout="30"
   schema="database-schemas\ms-sql.xml"
   /
 
 The above example is for a SQL Server data source using i-net driver.
 Remeber to change the connection-driver, username, password and url.
 
 2. Now, the following step will add the pooled version. Add the following
 lines to data-sources.xml.
 
   data-source
   class="com.evermind.sql.OrionPooledDataSource"
   name="SQLServer"
   location="jdbc/SQLServerDS"
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/SQLServerXADS"
   ejb-location="jdbc/SQLServerDS"
   max-connections="4"
   source-location="jdbc/SQLServerNP"
   pooled-location="jdbc/SQLServerDS"
   inactivity-timeout="30"
   connection-driver="com.inet.tds.TdsDriver"
   url="jdbc:inetdae:localhost"
   /
 
 Note that the source-location should correspond to location in the 1st
step.
 "max-connections" can be changed to suit your requirements. I'm not sure
 whether url and connection-driver are required here.
 
 The above steps should work for any JDBC drivers. If your driver vendor
 supplies a data source, step 1 will be little bit different. Also, some of
 the driver vendors directly provide pooled data source implementation in
 which case 2 steps are not needed. I could successfully use i-net OPTA
 PooledDataSource with Orion.
 
 --Deepak
 
 




RE: Invalidating an Entity bean

2000-10-12 Thread Peter Delahunty


the situation is this.

this is the current data model

I have and entity bean called "Content" this repsents 1 row in a table
called "content". The content enitity bean can have N number of images
(corresponds to n number of rows in the images table) and N number of text
blocks (corresponds to n number of rows in the text table).

However images and text blocks are independent of content. Content is only a
grouping of these assets if you like. So we get a many to many relationship.


1 content can reference many images
1 image can be referenced by many content.
(same for text)

so when a content entity bean loads up it loads into its attributes all the
data from the images and text that it references. So lets assume all this
data is now in a cache.


if i then change the data in an image or text independently of the entity
bean (perhaps by a session bean) then the data that is cached in the entity
bean is dirty (does not match what is in the database). SO how do i notify
the entity bean to refresh it's self ?


Another model you hinted on was that Image and text could be enitity beans.
They are certainly independent enities (qualify as enities). However i
consider them to be too fine grained. For example text block could be as
small as "hello this is a sentance" which is just a small string and so
wrapping this small string in an entity bean seem way too much overhead. But
the flip side is it would so the cache problem.

the session bean would do updates via the image and text beans and so they
would always contain the correct data. And content would get the data from
the image and text entity bean each time. However if the content has 50 text
block and 50 images that is 100 calls (one to each of the entity beans that
represent this data), which as you see is a major overhead

Any thoughs on how i best model this.

cheers

-Original Message-
From: Nick Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 5:08 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Invalidating an Entity bean


Hi Peter,

I'm not claiming guru-hood, but as far as I know you CAN'T do that cleanly.
 My thoughts on your best options are:

1) Tell Orion that the entity beans do not have exclusive write-access to
the database by setting exclusive-write-access="false" in the
orion-ejb-jar.xml (which is orion-specific).  I believe this causes the
data to be re-read at the start of every transaction.

2) Re-write your session bean to makes its database changes through the
entity beans rather than through direct JDBC.

Nick

At 12:02 PM 10/12/00 +0100, you wrote:
Hi gurus

How do I do this cleanly.

I have and Entity that has attributes A,B,C and D. These attributes are all
read from database tables.

A and B are read from Table 1
C and D are read from Table 2

So I have Entity Bean 1, this is loaded by the app server (perhaps by a
findByPrimaryKey) method. This means that Entity Bean 1 is now a cache of
the data in A,B,C and D. 

However while this entity bean is in the cache, via a session bean I change
the data of C and D in table 2. This mean that Entity Bean 1 now has dirty
data. So the question is how do I force the Entity beans to do and EJB
Load.


Also the data in C and D in table 2 may be shared by N number of entity
beans so I may need to refresh N number of Entity Beans depending on which
ones are in the cache.

I only want to call EJB load for Entity beans currently in the cache and of
these I only want to call ejb load for the ones that refer to the changed
data.

Cheers Peter





Deploying a ear file, not a war file

2000-10-12 Thread Martijn van Berkum

Hi,

Is it possible to create a .ear file which contains the ejb-jar file, but
not the web-jar file. Orion should then retrieve it's web related files from
a subdirectory. This way I can deploy the ejb's using a jar file, but test
them using .jsp files, which I don't need to deploy when changing just a
little code.

The only way to do this I could think of right now is using two seperate
deployments, one with the .ear file and one for the webroot dir.

Thanks,

Martijn
--
_
  Martijn van Berkum GX creative online development
  _ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  _ http://www.gx.nl/





RE: How to select an other datasource then the default one?

2000-10-12 Thread Goel, Deepak

Hello,

When you deploy your application, Orion creates a subdirectory with the name
of the app under application-deployments. You should see another
subdirectory with the name of your ejb jar file. So for example if you have
an app named myApp and myApp.ear contains myEJB.jar, then you should see

orion-home/application-deployments/myApp/myEJB.jar/orion-ejb-jar.xml

This file is automatically created by Orion and can be changed to suit your
needs. For each entity bean deployed, there will be an entry here:

entity-deployment name="Cabinet" location="Cabinet"
wrapper="CabinetHome_EntityHomeWrapper7" table="cab" 
data-source="jdbc/SQLServerDS" validity-timeout="2"

/entity-deployment

For more info, look at the documentation for this file:

http://www.orionserver.com/docs/orion-ejb-jar.xml.html


--Deepak

-Original Message-
From: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 12:28 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: How to select an other datasource then the default one?


Ralph and others,

My datasources.xml looks like:

?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE data-sources PUBLIC "Orion data-sources" 
"http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/data-sources.dtd"

data-sources
data-source
name="Default data-source"
class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
location="jdbc/DefaultDS"
pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS"
xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS"
ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS"
url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/DB"
connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver"
username="xxx"
password="xxx"
/
data-source
name="Default data-source"
class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
location="jdbc/TestDS"
pooled-location="jdbc/TestPooledDS"
xa-location="jdbc/xa/TestXADS"
ejb-location="jdbc/TestEJBDS"
url="jdbc:HypersonicSQL:./database/Test"
connection-driver="org.hsql.jdbcDriver"
username="xxx"
password="xxx"
/
/data-sources

Guess there is not much wrong in that. The trouble I have is making the 
application point to the right datasource. Using CMP I would expect you can 
add some option somewhere to tell the server to use that connection, but 
where do I need to put the great 'use-this-datasource' option? 
Orion-application.xml seemed logical to me.

Frank

On Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:41 PM, Ralph Crawford 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 Here's an example of a data-sources.xml file with two different
 datasources...

   data-source
   name="Default data-source"
   class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
   location="jdbc/DefaultDS"
   pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS"
   xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS"
   ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS"
   url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@blah.domain.com:1521:dbinstance"
   connection-driver="oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver"
   username="username"
   password="password"
   /

   data-source
   name="Othert data-source"
   class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource"
   location="jdbc/OtherDS"
   pooled-location="jdbc/OtherPooledDS"
   url="jdbc:postgresql://blah.domain.com:5432/postgres"
   connection-driver="postgresql.Driver"
   username="username"
   password="password"
   /

 Obviously, in this case, I've got both the Oracle and Postgres drivers in 
my
 orion/lib directory.  Then when you want to get a pooled connection, 
you'd
 use...

 connection = ((javax.sql.DataSource)
 ctx.lookup("jdbc/DefaultPooledDS")).getConnection();


 and if you wanted to use the other database, you'd use jdbc/OtherPooledDS 
 instead of jdbc/DefaultPooledDS.

 Hope this helps.

 Ralph


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RE: Invalidating an Entity bean

2000-10-12 Thread Nick Newman

Sorry, but as I said, there is (as far as I know) no clean (ie. portable)
way to tell an entity bean to refresh itself.  The specs even specifically
say that an entity bean does NOT have to worry about the database being
changed "behind its back" (although you should peraps check the exact details).

I agree that separate entity beans seem to be too small.

How about using dependent objects?  If you had a big entity bean that
contained Collections of dependent objects (images and text) then changing
these dependent objects inside the bean will leave the bean in a "clean"
state.  The changes will be persisted to the DB automatically.  (EJB 2.0
would perhaps be better than EJB 1.1 for this approach).

I'll have to leave you to decide if that's really workable.  If you decide
you have to stick with direct JDBC access to write to the DB from a Session
bean, then I think you'll be stuck with non-portable solutions.

Good luck!
Nick

At 07:59 PM 10/12/00 +0100, you wrote:

the situation is this.

this is the current data model

I have and entity bean called "Content" this repsents 1 row in a table
called "content". The content enitity bean can have N number of images
(corresponds to n number of rows in the images table) and N number of text
blocks (corresponds to n number of rows in the text table).

However images and text blocks are independent of content. Content is only a
grouping of these assets if you like. So we get a many to many relationship.


1 content can reference many images
1 image can be referenced by many content.
(same for text)

so when a content entity bean loads up it loads into its attributes all the
data from the images and text that it references. So lets assume all this
data is now in a cache.


if i then change the data in an image or text independently of the entity
bean (perhaps by a session bean) then the data that is cached in the entity
bean is dirty (does not match what is in the database). SO how do i notify
the entity bean to refresh it's self ?


Another model you hinted on was that Image and text could be enitity beans.
They are certainly independent enities (qualify as enities). However i
consider them to be too fine grained. For example text block could be as
small as "hello this is a sentance" which is just a small string and so
wrapping this small string in an entity bean seem way too much overhead. But
the flip side is it would so the cache problem.

the session bean would do updates via the image and text beans and so they
would always contain the correct data. And content would get the data from
the image and text entity bean each time. However if the content has 50 text
block and 50 images that is 100 calls (one to each of the entity beans that
represent this data), which as you see is a major overhead

Any thoughs on how i best model this.

cheers

-Original Message-
From: Nick Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 5:08 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Invalidating an Entity bean


Hi Peter,

I'm not claiming guru-hood, but as far as I know you CAN'T do that cleanly.
 My thoughts on your best options are:

1) Tell Orion that the entity beans do not have exclusive write-access to
the database by setting exclusive-write-access="false" in the
orion-ejb-jar.xml (which is orion-specific).  I believe this causes the
data to be re-read at the start of every transaction.

2) Re-write your session bean to makes its database changes through the
entity beans rather than through direct JDBC.

Nick

At 12:02 PM 10/12/00 +0100, you wrote:
Hi gurus

How do I do this cleanly.

I have and Entity that has attributes A,B,C and D. These attributes are all
read from database tables.

A and B are read from Table 1
C and D are read from Table 2

So I have Entity Bean 1, this is loaded by the app server (perhaps by a
findByPrimaryKey) method. This means that Entity Bean 1 is now a cache of
the data in A,B,C and D. 

However while this entity bean is in the cache, via a session bean I change
the data of C and D in table 2. This mean that Entity Bean 1 now has dirty
data. So the question is how do I force the Entity beans to do and EJB
Load.


Also the data in C and D in table 2 may be shared by N number of entity
beans so I may need to refresh N number of Entity Beans depending on which
ones are in the cache.

I only want to call EJB load for Entity beans currently in the cache and of
these I only want to call ejb load for the ones that refer to the changed
data.

Cheers Peter






Re: NEWBIE QUESTION: How do I shut this thing down

2000-10-12 Thread Hitesh Jasani

Robert,

Check the principals.xml file in the config directory.  In it you should find
an entry for the admin user and his password  -- see below.

users
user username="admin" password="123" deactivated="false"
descriptionThe default administrator/description
group-membership group="administrators" /
group-membership group="guests" /
group-membership group="users" /
/user

Enjoy,
Hitesh


Robert Keith wrote:

 Hi Guys,

 I have trawled through the docs to try and find a way to shut orion down
 cleanly, however I can't find the default username and password in order to
 shut it down. Can you guys let me know what it is?

 cheers

 Rob





No Suspension of client transactions with Bean Managed Transaction

2000-10-12 Thread Daniel G. Koulomzin

Friends,

I have an entity bean which calls a stateless session bean's method from
within its ejbCreate method.  I need to ensure the highest level of
transaction isolation (serializable) for the database read performed in
the session bean method.  Because a connection's isolation level must be
set outside of any transaction, I assume I am forced to use bean managed
transaction for this session bean.   When I attempt to run this (using
jdk1.2.2 from sun, linux RedHat6.2, Orion1.2.9, Postgres7 database) I
get a java.sql.SQLException (stack trace below).

I am setting the isolation level right after I first get a connection
from the data-source, and I do no updates and start no transactions in
my session bean before setting this level.

When I use Sybase instead of Postgres, I get a bit further, but end up
getting a different exception (Stack trace follows below).  From some
debug statements, I've managed to deduce that when I first get the
UserTransaction (in the business method of the Session Bean), it has
Status.STATUS_ACTIVE.  It stays this way through beginning a
transaction, performing updates and selects from Sybase, and committing
the transaction.  However, after commit() is called, the status is
Status.STATUS_NO_TRANSACTION.  When this method completes, and the
EntityBean's ejbCreate method resumes, I get an OrionRemoteException
(that's the second stacktrace given).

It seems to me that when the Session Bean's method begins, the client
transaction has NOT been suspended.  This seems to be in violation of
the spec.  What gives?  Has anyone ever managed to use bean managed
transactions using Orion and these databases?


Using Posgres7 --

javax.transaction.TransactionRolledbackException: java.sql.SQLException:
ERROR:  SET TRANSACTION ISO
LATION LEVEL must be called before any query

at com.evermind.server.ejb.EJBUtils.getUserException(JAX)
at
MessageNumberManager_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper15.nextMessageNumber(MessageNumberManager

_StatelessSessionBeanWrapper15.java:49)
at
com.dbusa.ejb.message.MessageBean.ejbCreate(MessageBean.java:84)
at
MessageHome_EntityHomeWrapper55.create(MessageHome_EntityHomeWrapper55.java:647)

at
com.dbusa.util.message.MessageCreator.createMessage(MessageCreator.java:83)

at
com.dbusa.util.message.MessageCreator.createMessage(MessageCreator.java:57)

at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
at
org.webmacro.util.PropertyOperator.invoke(PropertyOperator.java:788)
at
org.webmacro.util.DirectAccessor.get(PropertyOperator.java:1012)
at
org.webmacro.util.PropertyOperator.getProperty(PropertyOperator.java:535)

at
org.webmacro.util.PropertyOperator.getProperty(PropertyOperator.java:89)

at org.webmacro.Context.getLocal(Context.java:401)
at org.webmacro.Context.getProperty(Context.java:339)
at
org.webmacro.engine.PropertyVariable.getValue(PropertyVariable.java:28)
at org.webmacro.engine.Variable.evaluate(Variable.java:128)
at org.webmacro.engine.Variable.write(Variable.java:156)
at org.webmacro.engine.Block.write(Block.java:56)
at org.webmacro.engine.IfDirective.write(IfDirective.java:161)
at org.webmacro.engine.Block.write(Block.java:56)
at org.webmacro.engine.IfDirective.write(IfDirective.java:154)
at org.webmacro.engine.Block.write(Block.java:56)
at org.webmacro.engine.WMTemplate.write(WMTemplate.java:251)
at
org.apache.turbine.services.webmacro.TurbineWebMacroService.handleRequest(TurbineWebMacro

Service.java:237)
at
org.apache.turbine.services.webmacro.TurbineWebMacroService.handleRequest(TurbineWebMacro

Service.java:208)
at
org.apache.turbine.services.webmacro.TurbineWebMacro.handleRequest(TurbineWebMacro.java:1

07)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.screens.WebMacroSiteScreen.buildWMTemplate(WebMacroSiteScreen.

java:192)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.screens.WebMacroSiteScreen.buildTemplate(WebMacroSiteScreen.ja

va:145)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.screens.TemplateScreen.doBuild(TemplateScreen.java:124)

at org.apache.turbine.modules.Screen.build(Screen.java:100)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.ScreenLoader.eval(ScreenLoader.java:126)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.layouts.WebMacroSiteLayout.doBuild(WebMacroSiteLayout.java:106

)
at org.apache.turbine.modules.Layout.build(Layout.java:93)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.LayoutLoader.exec(LayoutLoader.java:120)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.pages.DefaultPage.doBuild(DefaultPage.java:171)

at org.apache.turbine.modules.Page.build(Page.java:92)
at
org.apache.turbine.modules.PageLoader.exec(PageLoader.java:119)
at org.apache.turbine.Turbine.doGet(Turbine.java:366)


---Using Sybase --

com.evermind.server.rmi.OrionRemoteException: User interference with CMP

JMS QueueReceiver.receiveNoWait() blocks!

2000-10-12 Thread Simon Harris



The following code blocks until a message appears 
on a queue:
queueReceiver.receiveNoWait();

We are using orionserver 1.3.8.

Cheers,

Simon.


RE: Charsets, i18n and confusion

2000-10-12 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes

Richard,

Thanks for this - would you mind just verifying the procedure? I'm sure it
will be useful to others in the future for the archives.

1. My web form arrives to the user encoded in Big5 (using
default-charset="Big5" in the orion-web.xml file).

2. The user fills in lots of Big5 characters (which are represented on
screen, but underneath are just Big5 encoded ASCII correct?)

3. When the form is submitted, the encoding of the form is Big5.

First Q: Can you give me a quick code snippet to convert that to a storable
format? Do I need to convert it to Unicode?

4. The data is now stored in the EJB in a portable manner.

5. A user requests to view a page, and the EJB is retrieved, it's content
accessed through ejb.getParameter() and displayed on my page. The page is
encoded again in Big5 - it should just turn up now correct?

Thanks in advance - you really are a lifesaver,

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Chuo
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 12:22 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Charsets, i18n and confusion


Hello Mike,

DB - EJB - getter method - web site

What encodings should I use where? If the text is Big5 encoded ASCII (is
that right? text typed from a Big5 keyboard into the form) do I need to
manually convert it to unicode somehow before putting it in the entity bean?

Did you changed the encoding when getting the parameters from the web form?
We use java.io.InputStreamReader to change the encoding to "Big5".

Does it matter what encoding the entry form page is in? Will it affect the
result?
Yes, it does.

Good luck!
Richard Chuo





RE: Invalidating an Entity bean

2000-10-12 Thread Lawrence Fry

Have you tried putting a "required" in the transaction for the entity bean?
Also, if the session bean is not using the entity bean to make the change in
the table, you can't use any of the j2ee transaction stuff. I would only
change the table 2 through the entity bean. You can do that in the session
bean by calling the home, and findby to grab your entity bean, then make the
change to table 2. This way you always have the bean fresh.

If you are worried about having lots of beans lying around, you can make
sure that you only have one instance of your entity bean in your session
bean. The petstore example in the j2ee blueprint uses this approach.

Regards,

Lawrence


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter
Delahunty
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 4:02 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Invalidating an Entity bean


Hi gurus

How do I do this cleanly.

I have and Entity that has attributes A,B,C and D. These attributes are all
read from database tables.

A and B are read from Table 1
C and D are read from Table 2

So I have Entity Bean 1, this is loaded by the app server (perhaps by a
findByPrimaryKey) method. This means that Entity Bean 1 is now a cache of
the data in A,B,C and D.

However while this entity bean is in the cache, via a session bean I change
the data of C and D in table 2. This mean that Entity Bean 1 now has dirty
data. So the question is how do I force the Entity beans to do and EJB Load.


Also the data in C and D in table 2 may be shared by N number of entity
beans so I may need to refresh N number of Entity Beans depending on which
ones are in the cache.

I only want to call EJB load for Entity beans currently in the cache and of
these I only want to call ejb load for the ones that refer to the changed
data.

Cheers Peter