Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/27/2004 1:12:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
600x400 pixels seems good for 35mm (did you mean 35mm or is there
really a 15mm format?). 

-- 
Cheers,
Bob


Oops. 35mm.

Thx!

Marnie aka Doe



Re: Cotty WOW

2004-03-27 Thread Jostein

Jostein wrote:
 At a web-based chessclub a friend once greeted me at the board with: hi,
 mate...

Cotty replied:
 Shouldn't that be check-mate??

Sure. But how is that as a greeting before the game starts? :-)))

Jostein



Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread mapson
Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with 
high ceilings!

http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Saturday, March 27, 2004, 10:12:40 AM, mapson wrote:

 Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

 I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with 
 high ceilings!

 http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2


trouble is, it makes everyone look Japanese! g

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: taking a break for a while...

2004-03-27 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lasse Karlsson
 Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...
  Yes. He was showing contempt to the whole PDML in the most blatant
 breach of the most basic PDML rule there is: Don't use the list for
 your own political propaganda!
 
 I direct you to the following link, where you say
 quote
 but from now on politics is a legitimate subject matter on this list
 too.
 /unquote
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg138684.html

Just in case other readers happen to be as daft as Mr. Robb is:
The quoted line above was A JOKE, the whole message to which he is pointing was made 
tongue-in-cheek.
There was a smiley at the end of the message.

 So, the problem doesn't seem to be with the act of making a political
 statement,  but with your disagreement with Mr Brendemuehl's politics

Where did I ever say that I disagreed with his political opinions?
Others may have, I haven't.

 and your pathological desire to drown out anyone who disagrees with
 you.
 
 And you called me a hypocrite?

Yes,  I did. Because you are.
As far as list issues go, you are using double standards, just as you see fit, 
depending on whether you personally like or dislike a person expressing a view.
You are using the list just to attack people on personal grounds, stirring things up 
and taking pleasure in just doing so.
You expressed this inclination just a short while ago in your own words:

From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...
Dan, I have a long history on this list of tweaking the noses of
people that turn out to be pompous twits.
I just can't seem to help myself.
I admit it may be a personality flaw, sometimes for fun I take candy
from small children too. :-) 

  I guess it takes one to know one.
 Did you win the election, BTW?

Yes, our party was declared one of the two winning parties of the election.

 And do your constituents know about how easily you disregard the
 rights of free speech when it suits you?

If anything, they know I am one to publicly speak up for the rights of free speech, 
and in my archives I will  have previously published statements to send to anyone who 
wishes to read them.
I am locally known and respected for this ever since I was in school, where I also, 
because of this, each year was elected student's representative of my class in an 
advicing School council type of body.
Come to think of it, and just to remind you and other list members - who was the one, 
and the only one as far as I can recall, to speak up against you (at the time when you 
and I even were on friendly terms, which didn't make it easier for me), when you made 
the most overtly personal anti-semitic attack on another list member just because of 
his Jewish name, to which you explicitly referred.to, slapping the Nazi extermination 
program of Jews into his face?
For your and the list's information I also spoke up for Colin some time back when 
someone else nastily and outrageously attacked him personally on the list.
Being at it, I also spoke up for Don Williams, who actually hadn't expressed very 
friendly feelings towards me, when a slime bag on this list suggested a ganging.up 
against him, AFTER he'd even left the list and wouldn't have had the chance to defend 
himself.
I guess I could bring some more examples to the attention of the list, but I'll leave 
it at this.

Lasse




Re: tele extenders

2004-03-27 Thread Herb Chong
the safest choice is one of the Sigma converters.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: tele extenders


 I am considering a tele-extender for my Sigma 7-300 Zoom.  At 70 mm, the
 back element is back into the mount, and moves forward as I zoom to 300
 mm.   What options do I have and can I preserve the AF?




Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread brooksdj
This could have saved our own Tom V seven assistants. LOL

Neat idea.

Dave  

 Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)
 
 I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with 
 high ceilings!
 
 http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2
 
 
 
 
 (*)o(*) 
 Robert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 






RE: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

*fairygirl comes out of hibernation*

Seeing my name was mentioned here, I just have to comment...

That is funny...BUT did any of you view the rest of his site??  IT IS
HILARIOUS!!  English is obviously not his native tongue, but jeez, he has a
way with words.  What a cool guy!  AND there are some STUNNING shots on that
site too - check this out for example:

http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/tokyowalk/

Of course, he shoots with Nikon (but we'll forgive him, he IS Japanese after
all!).  But how funny is he...?!?  Have a read of this, it just had me in
hysterics!!

http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/allsheleftbehind/

Ok, going back into my hidy hole now...

tan.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 4:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.


This could have saved our own Tom V seven assistants. LOL

Neat idea.

Dave

 Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

 I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with
 high ceilings!

 http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2




 (*)o(*) 
 Robert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]








RE: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Oops, just realised that he isn't actually Japanese - doesn't say what
nationality he is though.  BUT, he lives in Japan...

Still regardless of where he lives or what nationality he is, he has one
very funny take on life!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 4:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.


This could have saved our own Tom V seven assistants. LOL

Neat idea.

Dave

 Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

 I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with
 high ceilings!

 http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2




 (*)o(*) 
 Robert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]








RE: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Freakin' heck, Robert, where did you find this guy?!?!  I could spend all
day on this bloody site...

Check THIS out!!  Very clever and freakin' hilarious...

http://www.juergenspecht.com/?id=70

Did I mention how fascinated I am by this guy?!?!  Or how funny he is?!!?

tan.

-Original Message-
From: mapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Perfect lighting tutorial.


Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with
high ceilings!

http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2




    (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread David Nelson
Excellent stuff! Check out true story 3!
http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/newyearscards2003/
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Freakin' heck, Robert, where did you find this guy?!?!  I could spend all
day on this bloody site...
Check THIS out!!  Very clever and freakin' hilarious...

http://www.juergenspecht.com/?id=70

Did I mention how fascinated I am by this guy?!?!  Or how funny he is?!!?

tan.

-Original Message-
From: mapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Perfect lighting tutorial.
Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with
high ceilings!
http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 




Re: Suggestion (humour)

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Indeed!!

Bill, how many realize that if it weren't for us Canadians (ignore the fact 
that we weren't actually Canadians back then), the Whitehouse wouldn't be 
white?

We (okay, the Brits) set it ablaze during the War of 1812, and in their 
quick-fix to get it up and running again, the Americans simply white-washed 
it.  It's been white ever since.

It just wouldn't sound so impressive were it the Bluehouse.  Or the 
Beigehouse.  Or the Fuschahouse.

you're welcome,
frank
this post certified subliminal message-free - of course, that's what I'd 
say even if there was one in here, right?

The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Suggestion (humour)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:26:01 -0600


We burned their White House to the ground once, and by gumm, if we
have to, we'll do it again.
HAR
WW

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Re: Suggestion (humour)

2004-03-27 Thread mapson

It just wouldn't sound so impressive were it the Bluehouse.  Or the 
Beigehouse.  Or the Fuschahouse.

you're welcome,
frank


Khaki House? - might be useful now ;-)

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
something strange just happened...

I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
minutes later received this email:

Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
Regards,
Max

EOM

NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is
confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the
intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person
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that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination,
copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is
the disclosure of the information therein.  If you have received this
message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the
message.

It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette and
copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically generated
it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.

Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am worried
now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
out to other people's Inboxes.

Any explanations?

TIA,
tan.





RE: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread mapson
At 10:51 PM 27/03/2004, you wrote:

Freakin' heck, Robert, where did you find this guy?!?!  I could spend all
day on this bloody site...


A friend sent me the link - I thought it was photo-related + somewhat 
amusing, hence I shared it.

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread mapson

Any explanations?

TIA,
tan.
I got I'm not here, please leave a message mail from Max, too.



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Lasse Karlsson
It's just an automatic response that some people, or offices start just to explain why 
you may not get a proper, personal reply.
Sometimes it's not well configured, as when it will go to participants on a mailing 
list too, which occasionally happens.
Nothing to worry about. It's purpose is actually just securing politeness, or sending 
information that maybe useful to sender or receiver.

Lasse

- Original Message - 
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: something weird...


 
 Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
 something strange just happened...
 
 I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
 minutes later received this email:
 
 Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
 I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
 If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
 Regards,
 Max
 
 EOM
 
 NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is
 confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the
 intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person
 responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised
 that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination,
 copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is
 the disclosure of the information therein.  If you have received this
 message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the
 message.
 
 It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette and
 copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically generated
 it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.
 
 Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am worried
 now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
 out to other people's Inboxes.
 
 Any explanations?
 
 TIA,
 tan.
 
 
 




RE: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
LOL! Hope the New Zealander's on the list check that one out! (no offence
guys!)
Omigosh, this will be a lng night, there are almost 100 galleries on
his site!  BUT thoroughly entertaining!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: David Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 10:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.


Excellent stuff! Check out true story 3!
http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/newyearscards2003/


Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Freakin' heck, Robert, where did you find this guy?!?!  I could spend all
day on this bloody site...

Check THIS out!!  Very clever and freakin' hilarious...

http://www.juergenspecht.com/?id=70

Did I mention how fascinated I am by this guy?!?!  Or how funny he is?!!?

tan.

-Original Message-
From: mapson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 8:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Perfect lighting tutorial.


Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)

I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with
high ceilings!

http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2




    (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]








LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Omigod!  Frank's posting an actual, honest-to-goodness On Topic Pentax 
Question!!  I'm so used to putting OT in front of my posts, it seems almost 
automatic to do so.

Okay, now that you've all gotten back in the chairs that you just fell out 
of, here goes.

You may recall that I recently got a flash (Vivitar 3700) with which to 
exploit my LX's ttl flash metering capabilities.  Two questions:

1)  In the LX manual, it says that for Pentax ttl flashes, if I leave the 
shutter speed dial at Automatic, put the flash on the camera and turn the 
flash on, the camera will automatically set the shutter speed to the 
appropriate flash sync.  It shows us this by lighting up the led next to x 
in the viewfinder (which also lets us know that the flash is charged and 
ready to go).  Since my Vivitar elicits this reaction in the viewfinder, am 
I to assume that I can leave the shutter speed dial at Auto and not worry 
about changing the speed to x every time I put the flash on?  If so, 
cool!

And, here's the most important question:

2)  In another thread this week, I read (I think it was tvv) that the 
exposure compensation dial does not affect ttl flash metering.  That thread 
was talking about another fine Pentax product, but do I assume that applies 
to the LX as well?  Again, in the manual, in the Exposure Compensation 
section no mention of flashes is made, and in the Flash section, no mention 
of the exposure compensation dial is made.

I just wanted to be absolutely sure on that one, because it would be a real 
nice feature to have with the flash, methinks.

Thanks in advance,
frank
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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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OT: Suggestions (humor)

2004-03-27 Thread Rfsindg
Mapson wrote and WW added:
  4. Seeing the battle will concentrate along the Americano-Canadian border,
  we are safe here ;-)

 We burned their White House to the ground once, and by gumm, if we
 have to, we'll do it again.
 HAR
 WW

Didn't we cross the border and burn down York as repayment.
That worked out really well didn't it.
What did you call the replacement?  Toronto?

Regards,  Bob S.



RE: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Yep, Lasse, thanks for your reply, but I alreayd know that bit - I have seen
them many a time, BUT why has it only occurred this one time?  I sent 4
separate emails to PDML in the past hour and only got the one autoreply.
And what about you guys, if you send an email to PDML, do yo get the same
autoreply?  I just don't understand how/why it is that only I got one...

Strange, or maybe not, but I can't get my head around it...

-Original Message-
From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 11:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: something weird...


It's just an automatic response that some people, or offices start just to
explain why you may not get a proper, personal reply.
Sometimes it's not well configured, as when it will go to participants on a
mailing list too, which occasionally happens.
Nothing to worry about. It's purpose is actually just securing politeness,
or sending information that maybe useful to sender or receiver.

Lasse

- Original Message -
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: something weird...



 Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
 something strange just happened...

 I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
 minutes later received this email:

 Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
 I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
 If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
 Regards,
 Max

 EOM

 NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that
is
 confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by
the
 intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person
 responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be
advised
 that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination,
 copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is
 the disclosure of the information therein.  If you have received this
 message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the
 message.

 It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette
and
 copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically
generated
 it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.

 Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am
worried
 now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
 out to other people's Inboxes.

 Any explanations?

 TIA,
 tan.







RE: Cherry bloosom

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Lovely, Alan!

I really like #'s 1,2,3,4,7 and 8.  I would have said I don't like 4 and 5 
quite so much, but I didn't want to sound negative. g

It's dark and grey here today (despite the fact the weather channel said 
today was supposed to be sunny and beautiful - damn those weather people), 
and I need a bit of brightening of the soul.

Your pix helped a lot.  Just beautiful!

thanks,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cherry bloosom
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:34:54 -0800
I had managed to snap a few pictures just the day before the long rainy 
week began. Unfortunately, I regret I did not use negative as the slides 
came back too contrasty.

http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/cherry_bloosom

Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
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Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Great. Thanks!
I have actually been thinking about a similar construction - either using a helmet, or 
some sort of brackets on my shoulders. I think a helmet version, although I was 
thinking it'd get too flimsy, might be theright way to go.
Of course, it would of course mean that you'll have to be in the right mood to take on 
the character of being taken for a clown.
All photographers will respect it though, and I am sure it will, as shown on the site, 
help produce a lot of pictures of smiling people.
Great idea. I've asked myself why something similar hasn't been available commercially.

Lasse

From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)
 
 I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with 
 high ceilings!
 
 http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2
 
 
 
 
 (*)o(*) 
 Robert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 




Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Lasse Karlsson

From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yep, Lasse, thanks for your reply, but I alreayd know that bit - I have seen
 them many a time, BUT why has it only occurred this one time?  I sent 4
 separate emails to PDML in the past hour and only got the one autoreply.
 And what about you guys, if you send an email to PDML, do yo get the same
 autoreply?  I just don't understand how/why it is that only I got one...
 
 Strange, or maybe not, but I can't get my head around it...

I see. I misunderstood your question.

Well, all I know is that Max McRae is, or at least has been a member of the PDML, 
since maybe a year or two back.

Lasse 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 11:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: something weird...
 
 
 It's just an automatic response that some people, or offices start just to
 explain why you may not get a proper, personal reply.
 Sometimes it's not well configured, as when it will go to participants on a
 mailing list too, which occasionally happens.
 Nothing to worry about. It's purpose is actually just securing politeness,
 or sending information that maybe useful to sender or receiver.
 
 Lasse
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:47 PM
 Subject: something weird...
 
 
 
  Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
  something strange just happened...
 
  I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
  minutes later received this email:
 
  Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
  I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
  If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
  Regards,
  Max
 
  EOM
 
  NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that
 is
  confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by
 the
  intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person
  responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be
 advised
  that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination,
  copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is
  the disclosure of the information therein.  If you have received this
  message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the
  message.
 
  It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette
 and
  copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically
 generated
  it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.
 
  Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am
 worried
  now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
  out to other people's Inboxes.
 
  Any explanations?
 
  TIA,
  tan.
 
 
 
 
 




RE: Fw: PAWS*3

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Chris,

I like the clock shot.  Nice and sharp, nice bright colours.  Interesting 
clock.  A nice shot of a local point of interest.

I'm not so sure about Lunch Time Tarrying.  There's a certain sneakiness 
about it I'm not sure I like.  I mean, I know, if you sunbathe in a public 
park you're aware that people will see you, and you likely don't mind the 
odd stare (or maybe you do, who knows?).  I'm just not sure what this 
picture is saying.  It's not particularly flattering from that angle, I 
think.  It just doesn't do too much for me, I'm afraid.

Traveller's Delight is a bit more interesting to me.  She's doing something. 
 There's still a voyeuristic thing going on;  it almost seems like a 
papparazzi shot of some starlet like Demi Moore on the beach, doing up her 
top (you see those types of shots all the time - why are they always doing 
up their top?).  It still bothers me that she obviously doesn't know you're 
shooting her - not that that's always a bad thing, or even that it's a bad 
thing here.  There's an intrusive quality to this photo that I find 
disquieting, but maybe that's the point.  Disquieting can be good!  g

I'm not sure about the person lying down top right.  I kind of like it.  
Gives some ambience and context.  And, from the soles on the shoes, I'd say 
those are Converse Chuck Taylors (because I've got mine on today, and just 
checked mine - OTOH, Converse One Stars have the same tread).  I like this 
photo much better than Lunch Time Tarrying.

cheers,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: PAWS*3
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:24:38 +1100
- Original Message -
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:29 PM
Subject: PAWS*3
 Meandered around the city and saw this charming clock chiming the hour 
and
 more eye candy.Basically shown as is with minor cropping on the 
girls,none
 on the clock.Comments as always welcome.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2234624
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2234638
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2234642

 Apologies for the Sigma SD10,all I had with me.
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RE: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Matt Giess
Hi Tan

Most autoreplies are configured to send one reply to a given email address 
upon receiving the first mail from them - all subsequent mails from that 
address will be ignored by the autoreply as it assumed that the person will 
understand why there is no response from their intended recipient.  This 
stops autoreplies from bunging up inboxes by responding to every single 
message.  Of course, not all autoreplies are configured correctly.

Matt

--On 27 March 2004 23:07 +1000 Tanya Mayer Photography 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yep, Lasse, thanks for your reply, but I alreayd know that bit - I have
seen them many a time, BUT why has it only occurred this one time?  I
sent 4 separate emails to PDML in the past hour and only got the one
autoreply. And what about you guys, if you send an email to PDML, do yo
get the same autoreply?  I just don't understand how/why it is that only
I got one...
Strange, or maybe not, but I can't get my head around it...

-Original Message-
From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 11:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: something weird...
It's just an automatic response that some people, or offices start just to
explain why you may not get a proper, personal reply.
Sometimes it's not well configured, as when it will go to participants on
a mailing list too, which occasionally happens.
Nothing to worry about. It's purpose is actually just securing politeness,
or sending information that maybe useful to sender or receiver.
Lasse

- Original Message -
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: something weird...

Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
something strange just happened...
I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
minutes later received this email:
Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
Regards,
Max
EOM

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It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette
and
copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically
generated
it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.

Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am
worried
now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
out to other people's Inboxes.
Any explanations?

TIA,
tan.










Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML

No, you're not.

:-)
Lasse




RE: OT: Suggestions (humor)

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Yes, you did.  You didn't do a very good job, though:  as you mention, 
Toronto's still here. g

Wasn't that long ago that Toronto (then York) was a bunch of wooden huts 
covered in dirt and dust.  In fact it was called Muddy York.

Until very recently, Toronto was called, derisively, Hogtown (still called 
that, sometimes), because all manner of livestock wandered about the muddy 
streets - I'm not sure if that was local livestock looking for grazing 
opportunities, or if it was livestock being driven to slaughterhouses 
(likely both).

Until the '60's, Toronto was a Victorian, puritanical, parochial, 
provincial, backwater of a sleepy town, bereft of any culture (except 
Scottish, from the robber-baron entrepreneurial class that controlled 
business and politics here for about 100 years) or excitement.  Unless you 
count Hockey.  Mind you, the Maple Leafs haven't won the Stanley Cup since 
about the time Toronto woke up and became exciting (1967 was their last 
win).  More than a co-incidence?

Then, Gordon Lightfoot and Joni Mitchell moved here.  The rest is history.

(I left out a few details for the sake of brevity)  vbg

cheers,
frank in Toronto
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Didn't we cross the border and burn down York as repayment.
That worked out really well didn't it.
What did you call the replacement?  Toronto?
Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: PAW - Blue Banded Bee on Fuscia

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Quite impressive!!

Mygod, you can see the little hairs on the bee's back, and little hairs on 
the petals of the flower!  That's amazing!

When the pic was first loading, from the top down, I thought the background 
was too dark.  However, once the bee appeared, I realized that the darkish 
background in fact works quite well against the yellow bee.

OOo!  I just went back and looked again, and noticed the little dew 
drops on the petals.  Exquisite!

Man, this list has the most amazing bug photogs anywhere!  Join that club 
(not that you weren't already there... g).

Terrific photo, David.  Thanks for sharing it with us.

cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: David Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW - Blue Banded Bee on Fuscia
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:36:21 +1100
G'day,
Took this photo a couple of weeks ago, but it was a little underexposed. 
Just played with it in photoshop (did a level adjustment, bit of a burn 
here and there...).  It's the Blue Banded Bee, Amegila bicingulatum, one of 
Australia's solitary native bees.

http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/amegilaweb.jpg

*ist D, tamron 90mm f/2.5, 2x TC, pop-up flash.
Comments appreciated, as always (even if I don't respond to them - be 
assured that I read them)

David

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Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site


 Maybe this question has been answered already in this thread. But I
am trying
 to figure out how large to make my pics (not the thumbnails, what
you get
 when you click a thumbnail) when I throw them up on a page. You
know, starting
 from 15mm slides, turned into JPEGs. Good enough resolution, but
not so large
 that take too long to load.

 Any sizing parameters that anyone can offer me would be helpful.

We used 400x600 pixels on the PUG (and I recall there was much
wailing when Mark made this the maximum size) because it allows for
reasonable file sizes of less than 100KB (we set 75KB as maximum).
This was done to avoid server loading as much as possible, as at the
time there were concerns about the amount of HD capacity and
bandwidth we were using on the server.
I think for a personal space, somewhat larger pixel counts would be
reasonable, although I would watch the file sizes, as some people are
still on dial up.
I would stay under 800 pixels on the long side of a horizontal, and
under 550 pixels on the vertical myself, just to make sure the entire
picture can fit into most browser windows. This should allow for a
file size of less than 150kb as well.
Remember, the larger the pixel count, the more enticing the file is
to download for the viewers own purposes.
As an example, I have one of Mark Cassino's bugs on my desktop now.
This may bother some people who think their pictures shouldn't be
used without permission (though I did thank him for it).

William Robb




RE: PAW: The House That Jack Built

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
I really like the mood of this one.

The house is just the right size for the frame and what's going on here.  I 
mean, one could either pull way back, and it might work.  Or get in real 
close, and that might work, too.  But this way, you get enough detail of the 
house, yet you get it in it's proper context, and still get those beautiful 
fluffy white clouds against that lovely blue sky.

I love the comp - putting the house near the bottom (yet stll leaving in 
enough grass to let us know that it's probably not been entered in decades) 
is obvious (good obvious g).  But, what blows me away is getting it 
off-centre a bit, just off to the right.  Lovely!  I don't know why, but it 
just works so nicely for me.

There's not a bad thing I can say about this evocative photo, Dave (not that 
I was looking for anything bad to say g).  Wonderful work!

thanks,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW: The House That Jack Built
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:30:28 +1200
The grass was so long I had my tripod at full extension...

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=27-Mar-2004

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

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Re: taking a break for a while...

2004-03-27 Thread ernreed2
Mr Robb wrote: 
  So, the problem doesn't seem to be with the act of making a political
  statement,  but with your disagreement with Mr Brendemuehl's politics

Mr Karlsson responded:
 Where did I ever say that I disagreed with his political opinions?

Quote from Mr Karlsson regarding Mr Brendemuehl's sig:
... moronic American right wing preachings

If that doesn't indicate disagreement ...







Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Frank,
 TTL can be used on Automatic and sync automatically if the flash is
on. The 3700 is quite the powerful little unit and has quite a few
accessories
that go with it like the flip-up diffuser which is nice for close-ups.
 Don't know about question number two.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:57 AM
Subject: LX ttl flash metering questions


 Omigod!  Frank's posting an actual, honest-to-goodness On Topic Pentax
 Question!!  I'm so used to putting OT in front of my posts, it seems
almost
 automatic to do so.

 Okay, now that you've all gotten back in the chairs that you just fell out
 of, here goes.

 You may recall that I recently got a flash (Vivitar 3700) with which to
 exploit my LX's ttl flash metering capabilities.  Two questions:

 1)  In the LX manual, it says that for Pentax ttl flashes, if I leave the
 shutter speed dial at Automatic, put the flash on the camera and turn the
 flash on, the camera will automatically set the shutter speed to the
 appropriate flash sync.  It shows us this by lighting up the led next to
x
 in the viewfinder (which also lets us know that the flash is charged and
 ready to go).  Since my Vivitar elicits this reaction in the viewfinder,
am
 I to assume that I can leave the shutter speed dial at Auto and not worry
 about changing the speed to x every time I put the flash on?  If so,
 cool!

 And, here's the most important question:

 2)  In another thread this week, I read (I think it was tvv) that the
 exposure compensation dial does not affect ttl flash metering.  That
thread
 was talking about another fine Pentax product, but do I assume that
applies
 to the LX as well?  Again, in the manual, in the Exposure Compensation
 section no mention of flashes is made, and in the Flash section, no
mention
 of the exposure compensation dial is made.

 I just wanted to be absolutely sure on that one, because it would be a
real
 nice feature to have with the flash, methinks.

 Thanks in advance,
 frank

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pessimist
 fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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Re: Suggestion (humour)

2004-03-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
Did any of you see the South Park Movie, featuring the US-Canadian
war?

BTW, I once saw a bumper sticker that said Montana: First Line of
Defense Against Canada.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Just to confirm what Lasse said ('cause you know, after the whole flame war 
thing - which seems to still be smouldering a bit - his credibity may be a 
bit suspect vbg):

Yes, Max is a member here.  Has been for a while.  Hasn't posted much 
lately, but has contributed from time to time.  So, no worries on that 
front.

And, yes, I got the out of office reply thingie the other day, too.

I've received them from him (or more properly, from his computer) before, on 
at least a couple of occasions.  At least we know when he's on vacation g.

At least once, he was taken to task on-list about it.  I can't remember how 
it resolved.  He promised to turn it off, or unsub from PDML when he went 
away or something.  I guess he forgot.

Bad Max!!  g

I wonder why it only seems to spit that out on rare occasions, as opposed to 
every time he gets an e-mail from PDML?  I mean, we should be getting about 
200 of these a day, no?  Or, maybe his 'puter or server or something is 
smart enough to do it once, and then not repeat, each time Max goes away.  
What to I know?

BTW, have a great vacation, Max.  Show us pix!

cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I see. I misunderstood your question.

Well, all I know is that Max McRae is, or at least has been a member of the 
PDML, since maybe a year or two back.

Lasse

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Re: Suggestions (humor)

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: OT: Suggestions (humor)




 Didn't we cross the border and burn down York as repayment.
 That worked out really well didn't it.
 What did you call the replacement?  Toronto?

We keep hoping you'll burn it down again, but you haven't yet
WW




Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb
I got one of those. I told Norton that it was spam.

William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tanya Mayer Photography
Subject: something weird...



 Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML,
but
 something strange just happened...

 I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and
a few
 minutes later received this email:

 Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
 I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
 If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
 Regards,
 Max




Re: taking a break for a while...

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb
Umm, sure Lasse.
Whatever.
It wasn't the post that was the joke, but the last sentence.
Or is any post you put a smiley into a joke?
Nice that you can find a way to justify your antisocial behaviour.

  sociopath
 One who is affected with a personality disorder marked by antisocial
behavior.

Anyway, I keep tweaking you, and you keep falling for it by calling
people names and generally making offensive and stupid posts.

I've made my point sufficiently, I think.
You are childish, and small minded.
You say one thing but practice the opposite.
When you don't get your own way, you immediately become abusive.

Goddbye, Lasse


William Robb




- Original Message - 
From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...


 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lasse Karlsson
  Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...
   Yes. He was showing contempt to the whole PDML in the most
blatant
  breach of the most basic PDML rule there is: Don't use the list
for
  your own political propaganda!
 
  I direct you to the following link, where you say
  quote
  but from now on politics is a legitimate subject matter on this
list
  too.
  /unquote
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg138684.html

 Just in case other readers happen to be as daft as Mr. Robb is:
 The quoted line above was A JOKE, the whole message to which he is
pointing was made tongue-in-cheek.
 There was a smiley at the end of the message.

  So, the problem doesn't seem to be with the act of making a
political
  statement,  but with your disagreement with Mr Brendemuehl's
politics

 Where did I ever say that I disagreed with his political opinions?
 Others may have, I haven't.

  and your pathological desire to drown out anyone who disagrees
with
  you.

  And you called me a hypocrite?

 Yes,  I did. Because you are.
 As far as list issues go, you are using double standards, just as
you see fit, depending on whether you personally like or dislike a
person expressing a view.
 You are using the list just to attack people on personal grounds,
stirring things up and taking pleasure in just doing so.
 You expressed this inclination just a short while ago in your own
words:

 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...
 Dan, I have a long history on this list of tweaking the noses of
 people that turn out to be pompous twits.
 I just can't seem to help myself.
 I admit it may be a personality flaw, sometimes for fun I take
candy
 from small children too. :-) 

   I guess it takes one to know one.
  Did you win the election, BTW?

 Yes, our party was declared one of the two winning parties of the
election.

  And do your constituents know about how easily you disregard the
  rights of free speech when it suits you?

 If anything, they know I am one to publicly speak up for the rights
of free speech, and in my archives I will  have previously published
statements to send to anyone who wishes to read them.
 I am locally known and respected for this ever since I was in
school, where I also, because of this, each year was elected
student's representative of my class in an advicing School council
type of body.
 Come to think of it, and just to remind you and other list
members - who was the one, and the only one as far as I can recall,
to speak up against you (at the time when you and I even were on
friendly terms, which didn't make it easier for me), when you made
the most overtly personal anti-semitic attack on another list member
just because of his Jewish name, to which you explicitly referred.to,
slapping the Nazi extermination program of Jews into his face?
 For your and the list's information I also spoke up for Colin some
time back when someone else nastily and outrageously attacked him
personally on the list.
 Being at it, I also spoke up for Don Williams, who actually hadn't
expressed very friendly feelings towards me, when a slime bag on this
list suggested a ganging.up against him, AFTER he'd even left the
list and wouldn't have had the chance to defend himself.
 I guess I could bring some more examples to the attention of the
list, but I'll leave it at this.

 Lasse








Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Thanks, Steve,

Yup, got the flip up diffuser with it.  Vic told me it gave the flash 
coverage up to 28mm.  Plus, he threw in the coiled wire and adapter, so I 
can use the flash off-camera, but still retain ttl capability (the other end 
of the coil attached to the hot-shoe) - that's pretty cool, IMHO.

Tanx for the info!

cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LX ttl flash metering questions
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 05:53:34 -0800
Hi Frank,
 TTL can be used on Automatic and sync automatically if the flash is
on. The 3700 is quite the powerful little unit and has quite a few
accessories
that go with it like the flip-up diffuser which is nice for close-ups.
 Don't know about question number two.
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Re: Wideangle lens choice

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: RE: Wideangle lens choice


 On 26 Mar 2004 at 15:39, Ramesh Kumar wrote:

  Thank you, Pentax 15mm goes off my list and reduces
  confusion.

 It works for me, I'll send you a full res jpg shot straight from
the camera if
 you wish. Do remember that if you buy a DA lens it will not perform
well if
 used with your film cameras.

If it's the same one you sent me a while back, I had no issues with
the sharpness, didn't see any light fall off, and was impressed with
how contrasty it is.
Of course, I am also hoping that my nearly 2G investment in this one
lens isn't going to be a bust, so I am looking for good things rather
than bad.

William Robb




Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault

Subject: LX ttl flash metering questions



 am
 I to assume that I can leave the shutter speed dial at Auto and not
worry
 about changing the speed to x every time I put the flash on?  If
so,
 cool!

Yes. It's also a good way to know when the flash has recycled, as
until the flash has a charge in it, the camera will meter ambient.


 And, here's the most important question:

 2)  In another thread this week, I read (I think it was tvv) that
the
 exposure compensation dial does not affect ttl flash metering.
That thread
 was talking about another fine Pentax product, but do I assume that
applies
 to the LX as well?  Again, in the manual, in the Exposure
Compensation
 section no mention of flashes is made, and in the Flash section, no
mention
 of the exposure compensation dial is made.

 I just wanted to be absolutely sure on that one, because it would
be a real
 nice feature to have with the flash, methinks.

Exposure compensation will affect TTL flash output, since all you are
doing is deflecting the ISO dial when you use exposure compensation.

William Robb




My first PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
I am posting this purely for the purpose of receiving critique.  I am hoping for
lots of suggestions.

I know some others have posted similar PAWs recently but this old house (or
could be a fishing camp) has caught my eye many times while traveling coastal
Louisiana and I finally took my camera along.

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095034/Medium

Before posting this picture I 

1) rotated it to keep the water from running out into your monitors
2) cropped it to my liking
3) Made some very minor brightness/contrast adjustments

Concerning the rotating, I have been having trouble lately with taking slanted
pictures.  I never  used to have this problem.  Any suggestions?



Re: taking a break for a while...

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb
Perhaps it would be best if we let him have the last word on this.
He seems to feel the need to have it.
The point has been made.
He has proven himself to be an immature twit, and two faced prick.

I told Norton that his last post was spam. Hopefully, I won't have to
read any more of his tripe, and I certainly have made my last post
rsponding to him at this point.

Now you see why the war on terrorism won't work though.
You fight back, and it just makes the little bastards more resolute.

William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: taking a break for a while...


 Mr Robb wrote:
   So, the problem doesn't seem to be with the act of making a
political
   statement,  but with your disagreement with Mr Brendemuehl's
politics

 Mr Karlsson responded:
  Where did I ever say that I disagreed with his political
opinions?

 Quote from Mr Karlsson regarding Mr Brendemuehl's sig:
 ... moronic American right wing preachings

 If that doesn't indicate disagreement ...











Re: Lasse ; WAS something stupid

2004-03-27 Thread mike wilson
Jostein wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I'm blonde, though. Two out of three can't be bad? :-)
 
 Or would that be blond in my case?

Depends whether you want to be American or English 8-)



My second PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time.  I did take the first PAW about
a week before the second.

As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions.

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium

Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light skew to
get the tipping out of the chapel.  In retrospect, maybe it has a little lean to
it which I should not have altered.

Thanks for your help.




Re: My first PAW

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Thornsberry
Subject: My first PAW




 http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095034/Medium

Nice shot, I would like a little more sky though. The house is a bit
crowded at the top of the frame.


 Concerning the rotating, I have been having trouble lately with
taking slanted
 pictures.  I never  used to have this problem.  Any suggestions?


There is a medical/ocular condition, I remember reading about it, I
believe either in one of Ansel's books or a Zone VI newsletter that
causes one to do just this very thing.
Of course, you could also be rotating the camera slightly when you
trip the shutter too. That's not all that uncommon either.

William Robb






Re: Lasse ; WAS something stupid

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson 
Subject: Re: Lasse ; WAS something stupid



 Depends whether you want to be American or English 8-)
 
 
Oh man, are those the only choices left?
HAR!!!
WW 



Re: PAW: The House That Jack Built

2004-03-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's a nice photograph.  I like the story as well.

David Mann wrote:

The grass was so long I had my tripod at full extension...

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=27-Mar-2004

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/






SV: Pentax quotes and SLR production stats

2004-03-27 Thread Jens Bladt
Very intersting mail, Herb. Do you know anything about statistics for film
sale?
all the best
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 27. marts 2004 03:06
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Pentax quotes and SLR production stats


Pentax representatives were invited to a financial advisors conference by a
place whose web site is http://www.clsa.com. the conference was held in
Tokyo on March 19, 2004. Jiro Okamura, Manager of Investor Relations Group
for Pentax, had these things to say about Pentax:

1) growth in the company is driven by medical products and not by digital
still cameras.
2) digital still cameras, the second biggest factor in revenue, remains
profitable. however, relatively small market share limits growth going
forward. DSLR sales are falling short of projections because of stiff
competition.
3) medical products are a stable cash cow for Pentax with endoscopes being
the largest factor. 70% of all Pentax's endoscope sales are in the US.
4) most of the company's growth for FY 2004 will be from medical products.

if you go and check statistics at http://www.cipa.co.jp/english, you will
see that in 2002, Japanese manufacturers produced about 3.3 million film
SLRs. there are no breakout figures for DSLR production but there have been
sources estimating about 400,000 DSLRs sold world wide in 2002. for 2003,
these manufacturers produced just under 2.3 million film SLRs. DSLRs have a
category of their own and there were about 820,00 units produced. according
to Canon press releases, they sold about 600,000 DSLRs last year and
accounted for 70% of the market, most of which were the Digital Rebel model.
Nikon accounted for almost all of the remaining 30%. Canon, in the same
press release, said that they plan to manufacture about 1.1 million DSLRs in
2004. if you believe Nikon's production capacity for D70 cameras, they are
aiming to do about 900,000 in 2004. if we assume that the total SLR market
for 2004 is about 3.8 million units, DSLRs will outsell film SLRs this year.
if not this year, they certainly will next year.

FYI for those of you that care, in 2002, all Japanese manufacturers produced
2,366 medium and large format cameras. in 2003, they produced 709.

Herb...






Re: PAW - Blue Banded Bee on Fuscia

2004-03-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
That's an amazingly detailed photograph. 

David Nelson wrote:

G'day,
Took this photo a couple of weeks ago, but it was a little 
underexposed. Just played with it in photoshop (did a level 
adjustment, bit of a burn here and there...).  It's the Blue Banded 
Bee, Amegila bicingulatum, one of Australia's solitary native bees.

http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/amegilaweb.jpg

*ist D, tamron 90mm f/2.5, 2x TC, pop-up flash.
Comments appreciated, as always (even if I don't respond to them - be 
assured that I read them)

David






Re: Help needed with 4x5 camera

2004-03-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

g I have an article on my website about servicing a Graphex (Rapex) Shutter. Not
g the type of shutter your friend has, but it gives a pretty good idea of what is
g involved: http://presscameras.graywolfphoto.com/graphex.html

g here is a pretty good source for specific shutter repair manuals: 
g http://www.manuals4less.com/shutters.htm

Just to let you know. He found a fitting manual on manuals4less... It
is on its way to Israel now...

Thanks a lot!


Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])



RE: Photo Software

2004-03-27 Thread Jeff Geilenkirchen
Many thanks for all the replies.  I have a good plan on how to proceed now.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:47 AM
To: Jeff Geilenkirchen
Subject: Re: Photo Software


Hi!

Jeff, if you have valid license and bad CD of an old PS version,
perhaps it is worth calling the Adobe and without telling the CD is
bad you might want to request an update for the latest PS version. I
suppose you would get it for a low price as it is an upgrade. And of
course, then you would receive a working CD...

HTH.


Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/27/2004 6:04:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wonder why it only seems to spit that out on rare occasions, as opposed to 
every time he gets an e-mail from PDML?  I mean, we should be getting about 
200 of these a day, no?  Or, maybe his 'puter or server or something is 
smart enough to do it once, and then not repeat, each time Max goes away.  
What to I know?

BTW, have a great vacation, Max.  Show us pix!

cheers,
frank

Programming-wise it's quite possible that on the very first reply, the 
autobot detects it's sent an email to a list, then excludes that email address from 
further replies. Ergo, no following auto replies, only one appearing. Some 
autobots are pretty smart.

Though I've often wondered about it myself. Wondered why I only see one 
autobot reply on the list every now and not for multiple messages. Not to say I am 
not GLAD that I only see it now and then. ;-)

But I suspect the reason why is the one I have given above.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: tele extenders

2004-03-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
I take no issue with your observations, however I'd never try that with any
lens that I own, it seems like you're asking for trouble.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: tele extenders


 well, i know about the greater than and less than 300mm specification for
 the L and S extenders. i focused the entire range on the 400 f5.6 by hand
 without a camera attached to see the range of travel. it looks like i can
 focus to about 15 feet or so before the rear element would hit the L
 converter. in MF mode, the focus clutch slips as soon as it encounters
 resistance. the lens end of the L converter is covered with rubber where
the
 retaining ring/cylinder holding the rear element of the lens would
contact.
 from what i can see, i would not damage anything in MF mode hitting the
rear
 element cylinder against the rubber ring, but it would be inelegant. i
have
 to use an S converter on my FA* 80-200 f2.8 because the rear element is
 fixed and right up against the lens mount.

 Herb...
 - Original Message -
 From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: tele extenders


  Herb, before I purchased the S convertor for my 300mm f4.5 FA, I spent
 some
  time with Pentax Colorado trying to determine the recommended usage.
There
  was confusing literature out there and it took them a while to come up
 with
  the correct application info. IIR,  it went something like the S is to
be
  used on lenses shorter than 300mm except for the 300mm f 4.5, in other
 words
  not on the 300 f2.8 and 400, 500  600 mm lenses.
  Physically, I believe you  could cause damage to the lens by trying to
fit
  the L onto lenses where the S was recommended. The L has a significantly
  longer snout and would contact lens elements on those lenses.





Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually, if one uses the Save for Web feature in PS, there
is even more control over the quality of the final image. 
100 steps in much smaller increments.  I can sometimes see a
difference between 100% and 80%.

BTW, the Save for Web feature allows up to four (maybe
more?) views of the image at different quality percentages,
so you can see exactly how the image will look before making
the final adjustment.

shel

Peter J. Alling wrote:
 
 When using Jpeg you can change the compression quality, in photoshop it
 is measured in a value from 0 to 12
 others use a %.  You can balance quality vs. file size.  For web use I
 generally don't see a noticeable quality loss
 until the I'm well below 50% or a value of 6 on photoshop's scale.  This
 varies from image to image some are more
 susceptible to visible degradation than others.



Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/27/2004 10:13:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, if one uses the Save for Web feature in PS, there
is even more control over the quality of the final image. 
100 steps in much smaller increments.  I can sometimes see a
difference between 100% and 80%.

BTW, the Save for Web feature allows up to four (maybe
more?) views of the image at different quality percentages,
so you can see exactly how the image will look before making
the final adjustment.

shel

I used save for the web feature in Elements and was unhappy with the results. 
Which means I'd rather tool them myself -- do any reduction myself. I have 
more control that way over the end quality as there are different reduction 
schemes and some are a lot better than others. And am pretty familiar doing 
image manipulation in PaintShop Pro (but not photos, graphic images. I guess one 
of these days I'll have to break down and get PhotoShop since PSP has no 
monitor profiling).

Though Elements makes pretty good thumbnails.

Marnie aka Doe  I guess I could get an older version of PS cheap. Or cheaper.



Re: My PAWs Weeks 1-3

2004-03-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Eac Later we were turned away at the door of the photography show, supposedly
Eac because I hadn't RSVPed.

Excuse me, what is it to be RSVPed?

Eac So shel and I retreated to comfortable and jean-friendly Berkeley
Eac for some great Thai food.

I can relate to that...

Eac Week #1 is dedicated to shel because he suggested that shot (and knew of a
Eac great Thai restaurant).

Funny you know, but in Israel most pay phones are taken off the
streets. Everyone now has at least one cell phone...

Eac Week #2 just struck my fancy.

My first and immediate reaction was shrug... But I've just taken
some photographs that would cause others to shrug. So I'd close my
mouth about now g...

Eac Week #3 is dedicated to frank, because I was trying to be like him
Eac (unsuccessfully -- shot in color and later grayscaled).

Marnie, is a slight lack of focus intentional here? Sorry, Frank, I
couldn't quite resist that...

Eac I don't think any of them are fantastic or my best work or anything, but I
Eac still welcome any and all reactions/comments.

I have one comment only. Marnie, I humbly ask of you - could you
please post a little larger images. You know, 600 or so pixels on
larger dimension.

I think PS defaults to 320 the way you seem to have used it. But it
can be digged out in options and set to whatever value there needs to
be.

Eac Marnie aka Doe ;-)

I've resolved to calling you by your name, if you don't mind g...


Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])



MX expenditure.

2004-03-27 Thread Malcolm Smith
This morning, whilst changing lenses, I noticed a black spec on the mirror.
Having carefully cleaned it, I put the lens back on and saw another and
anotherthe dreaded black snow of disintegrating foam. So far the
purchase and maintenance costs of this camera have worked out to approx GBP
0.015 a day, during my period of ownership. A CLA will put the daily
ownership figure sky high :-)

What an expensive pastime this is!

Malcolm 




Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hmmm ... You can tool the pics yourself in PS 7.0.  I'll
have to check PS 6.0 to see if there's any difference.  But
I do all the sizing, cropping, etc before hand, then using
S4W the file size and resolution are adjusted (not the image
dimensions).  Maybe elements is different than PS.

shel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I used save for the web feature in Elements and was unhappy with the results.
 Which means I'd rather tool them myself -- do any reduction myself. I have
 more control that way over the end quality as there are different reduction
 schemes and some are a lot better than others. And am pretty familiar doing
 image manipulation in PaintShop Pro (but not photos, graphic images. I guess one
 of these days I'll have to break down and get PhotoShop since PSP has no
 monitor profiling).
 
 Though Elements makes pretty good thumbnails.
 
 Marnie aka Doe  I guess I could get an older version of PS cheap. Or cheaper.



Re: PAW: beach log

2004-03-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

DM I think the whole bottom left quarter is a bit empty but overall I'm
DM quite fond of it.  It came out quite nicely on paper.

I must say that the person on the shore completes the image and makes
it rather full in my eyes...

DM I thought about using this for my next PAW but I've already used it for
DM PUG :)

Actually by mistake I submitted one of my PAWs to PUG... I hope I
ain't gonna get banished for that g...

Cheers.

Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/26/2004 4:58:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
CSS is a great way to unify a web site, since you can make global
changes to the look of the site by altering one file.
As long as the browser supports it.
Otherwise, your website defaults to the browser settings, which may
not be so good.

Javascript is a relatively simple programming language that can make
web sites work more smoothly. If you are using a frameset, javascript
is pretty much a necessity to control what each frame will do when a
link is invoked.

I'm a big fan of tables, since they can be used to hold 2 different
things relative to each other (as an example, a picture and the
caption below it), and is controllable by either a pixel count (not
so good as it is screen size dependant for look) or by percentage
(much better, as it no longer matters what the screen size is).

Anyway, thats just what I think.

William Robb

I also strongly recommend CSS. One can make global changes easily, and format 
all of one's pages in one file. And there are lots of good CSS tutorials out 
there. Think someone has already recommended some. 

I converted a LOT of web pages I have in another venue, another forum, to CSS 
and found it relatively easy on the whole. And it makes have a LOT of pages 
10X easier.

I'd skip everything else, Javascript (no longer supported by Microsoft, by 
IE, but I think that is only the newer versions, I haven't really looked into 
it), and Flash, etc. Just do style sheets. It's also nice, if you can, to 
download browsers other than the one you have and do some test runs to find out how 
things look in different browsers. IE, Netscape, Mosaic, et all. Whatever you 
can find that you download for free.

There will still be someone around who has an older browser which won't 
display things the way you have laid them out. But I figure if you cover 80-90% of 
people, that's the best you can do. 

Marnie aka Doe  And definitely tables.



Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/27/2004 10:29:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmmm ... You can tool the pics yourself in PS 7.0.  I'll
have to check PS 6.0 to see if there's any difference.  But
I do all the sizing, cropping, etc before hand, then using
S4W the file size and resolution are adjusted (not the image
dimensions).  Maybe elements is different than PS.

shel

Off-hand I can't go through the different reduction schemes without looking 
at the menus (I don't have it on the top of my head), but they all use 
(re)sampling techniques and some are better than others. I tend to use the best one 
that has the less loss and may create bigger files as a result. I am now going 
to have to do reduction looking at resultant file size as well as pixel 
dimensions and see what trade offs I need to make.

If someone wants to go into the more technical details -- feel free.

Marnie aka Doe



Re: My first PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Kevin, what a great subject! As nice an image as it is, this really needs
early morning or late afternoon sun light to take it to the next level. This
looks like a subject that you could burn alot of Velvia (or pixels) on. Work
it.
I use a grid marked focusing screen in all my camera bodies to help with the
tilt. Another possibility is a clip on bubble level.


Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: My first PAW


 I am posting this purely for the purpose of receiving critique.  I am
hoping for
 lots of suggestions.

 I know some others have posted similar PAWs recently but this old house
(or
 could be a fishing camp) has caught my eye many times while traveling
coastal
 Louisiana and I finally took my camera along.

 http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095034/Medium

 Before posting this picture I

 1) rotated it to keep the water from running out into your monitors
 2) cropped it to my liking
 3) Made some very minor brightness/contrast adjustments

 Concerning the rotating, I have been having trouble lately with taking
slanted
 pictures.  I never  used to have this problem.  Any suggestions?




Re: My second PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Not as interesting a subject as your first post. It suffers from too tight a
crop, and a dark featureless foreground.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:25 AM
Subject: My second PAW


 Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time.  I did take the first PAW
about
 a week before the second.

 As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions.

 http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium

 Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light skew
to
 get the tipping out of the chapel.  In retrospect, maybe it has a little
lean to
 it which I should not have altered.

 Thanks for your help.





RE: My first PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
This subject is about 2-1/2 hours from home.  Occaisionally my job takes my by
here to catch a 2 pm helicopter.  On this particular day I needed to come
earlier.  This shot was taken about 9 am.  Your're right.  Early morning light
would be much better.  There's a 6 am flight that I could possibly take that
would bring my by here about 5 am.  Maybe it will work out one day.  It better
be soon.  This guy is about 1 tropical storm away from destruction.

Maybe someone will produce a grid screen for the *ist-D.  I've been tipping my
camera up to line up the base of the frame with the horizon then carefully
tipping it back down for the final composition.  It's not really working too
well.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kenneth Waller
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 12:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My first PAW


 
Kevin, what a great subject! As nice an image as it is, this really needs early
morning or late afternoon sun light to take it to the next level. This looks
like a subject that you could burn alot of Velvia (or pixels) on. Work it. I use
a grid marked focusing screen in all my camera bodies to help with the tilt.
Another possibility is a clip on bubble level.


Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: My first PAW


 I am posting this purely for the purpose of receiving critique.  I am
hoping for
 lots of suggestions.

 I know some others have posted similar PAWs recently but this old 
 house
(or
 could be a fishing camp) has caught my eye many times while traveling
coastal
 Louisiana and I finally took my camera along.

 http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095034/Medium

 Before posting this picture I

 1) rotated it to keep the water from running out into your monitors
 2) cropped it to my liking
 3) Made some very minor brightness/contrast adjustments

 Concerning the rotating, I have been having trouble lately with taking
slanted
 pictures.  I never  used to have this problem.  Any suggestions?





Re: My PAWs Weeks 1-3

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/27/2004 10:28:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi!

Eac Later we were turned away at the door of the photography show, supposedly
Eac because I hadn't RSVPed.

Excuse me, what is it to be RSVPed?

You know, when pinned down I am not really sure what the acronym means. Reply 
something something something. It means don't show up without replying. Call 
someone and let them know you are coming. In most cases, RSVP is not that 
important. Especially on more public events. You can show up anyway -- an RSVP is 
just a courtesy. Unless it's more private, like someone's birthday party.  ;-)

In this case, my not RSVPing it was a good excuse to use to bar our entry.


[snip]

Eac Week #3 is dedicated to frank, because I was trying to be like him
Eac (unsuccessfully -- shot in color and later grayscaled).

Marnie, is a slight lack of focus intentional here? Sorry, Frank, I
couldn't quite resist that...

Not really. It may be soft focused, will have to print out.

Eac I don't think any of them are fantastic or my best work or anything, but 
I
Eac still welcome any and all reactions/comments.

I have one comment only. Marnie, I humbly ask of you - could you
please post a little larger images. You know, 600 or so pixels on
larger dimension.

I think PS defaults to 320 the way you seem to have used it. But it
can be digged out in options and set to whatever value there needs to
be.

Working on that. Bigger jpegs, that is.

Eac Marnie aka Doe ;-)

I've resolved to calling you by your name, if you don't mind g...

Boris

No problem. I will answer to either name. Even when people meet me in person, 
they can yell Doe across a crowded room and I'll turn my head. I've been 
using that handle so long on the Internet it feels like a second name. 

But since Marnie is my real name (well, not really, it's a nickname I 
acquired about 30 years ago), I answer to it too. ;-)

Marnie otherwise known as Doe otherwise known as some birth name she that 
will not reveal  

P.S. Playing with self renaming can be fun. s



Re: My first PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/27/2004 9:16:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Kevin ...

I'd agree with Bill about wanting to see more sky.  It's
very nice shot, otherwise, although the roof of the old
house looks just a bit to saturated, not like the duller,
less intense rust roofs I'm used to seeing.  The difference
isn't much, however.

shel

I agree about the sky. You've included more grass, for feel, I think, only 
the grass isn't that interesting, while the contrast with the sky is. So it 
would be more interesting to me with more sky and less grass. That means a 
reshoot, of course. ;-)

It is an interesting old building. I'd also try reshooting it early morning 
or late day for more interesting lighting and shadows. If it was me retaking it 
I would, that is.

Marnie aka Doe



Re: My PAWs Weeks 1-3

2004-03-27 Thread ernreed2
In response to Boris, Marnie wrote:
 You know, when pinned down I am not really sure what the acronym means. Reply 
 something something something. 

Reply Please. In French.
IIRC.



Re: Pentax TV sighting -- rerun!

2004-03-27 Thread Butch Black
That would be most appropriate, as Herb just told us that Pentax makes more 
money from sticking things inside our bodily orifices than it does from 
taking pix!!  vbg

-frank

Does that mean that Pentax is running for a political office?  :)

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)



RE: PAW - Blue Banded Bee on Fuscia

2004-03-27 Thread Butch Black
Spectacular colors, very nice shot.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)



RE: My second PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
Thanks.  I think it's a really interesting little building.  It is pretty much
in the middle of nowhere.  Just place to pull off the road.  Unfortunately, the
picture is not so interesting.  The crop is tight because 1) I lost a little
when I straightened the picture and 2) the surroundings seemed to make the
picture even less interesting.  Here's another perspective I tried.  The only
edit I've done is to level it.  (Again, I don't want the salt-water to run out
and ruin all your monitors.)

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103760/Small

So between the two pictures maybe someone can give some suggestions on how to
approach this subject, including, I guess, pass it by.

OT:  Every time I drive by this little shrine, I wonder, What's in there?  So,
I did step inside the door.  There were no lights and the sun was getting low on
the horizon.  Fortunately, I had the little pop-up flash on my *ist-D.  If you
are curious, here it is:(this is not a PAW, just documentation of the inside--no
need to critique) 

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103776/Small

It just sits there, unguarded and open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My second PAW


 
Hi Kevin ...

This one doesn't do much for me.  The shrine is too close to (and even clipped
by) the edge of the frame.  A little more space would help the photo quite a
bit.  Looks a little flat on my monitor, too.

shel

Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
 
 Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time.  I did take the first 
 PAW about a week before the second.
 
 As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions.
 
 http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium
 
 Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light 
 skew to get the tipping out of the chapel.  In retrospect, maybe it 
 has a little lean to it which I should not have altered.
 
 Thanks for your help.




Re: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread John Francis

Are you aware of the legal precedents that make these sort of disclaimers
necessary on email originating from a work-provided account?

I rather  doubt it, of you wouldn't be quite so off-hand in your comment
about lawyers, and how much power they *should* be allowed.

Blame the courts, not the lawyers.   Or, even better, don't blame anybody
(or, at least, not here) - this has nothing to do with photography.

 
 No, not a virus, just his work account somewhere where the lawyers have more 
 power than they should be allowed.
 
 --
 
 Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
 
  Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
  something strange just happened...
  
  I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
  minutes later received this email:
  
  Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
  I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
  If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
  Regards,
  Max
  
  EOM
  
  NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is
  confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the
  intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person
  responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised
  that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination,
  copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is
  the disclosure of the information therein.  If you have received this
  message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the
  message.
  
  It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette and
  copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically generated
  it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.
  
  Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am worried
  now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
  out to other people's Inboxes.
  
  Any explanations?
  
  TIA,
  tan.
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: My PAWs Weeks 1-3

2004-03-27 Thread mike wilson
Repondez s'il vous plait

with one or two accents thrown in there for good measure 8-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In response to Boris, Marnie wrote:
  You know, when pinned down I am not really sure what the acronym means. Reply
  something something something.
 
 Reply Please. In French.
 IIRC.



Re: OT? Advice wanted for setting up a web site

2004-03-27 Thread Mark Roberts
As long as we're on the subject...

I've been doing a web page for my local organic food co-op and I'd like
to get some feedback regarding browser compatibility. Cotty checked it
out for me on his Mac and found a few peculiarities. I think I've fixed
them but you never know. I powered up my SO's old Mac Powerbook and
tested it in the latest Internet Explorer and Netscape 4.6 (I'm going to
load a newer version of Netscape on the Mac this afternoon). On my Win2k
machine I've checked it in Internet Explorer (5.5) , Mozilla (1.2.1) and
Netscape 3.0(!)
Only Netscape 3 gives any big problems; the JavaScript rollovers cause
all kinds of trouble. But since JavaScript has changed so much since its
introduction many JS sites give 3.0 fits. Netscape's own home page
crashes Netscape 3 entirely! I thus assume than anyone who's even
running 3.0 probably has JS turned off.
The site is currently at http://216.92.182.162 (don't have DNS yet).
Have a look for problems if you will.
I've used CSS for everything but layout - CSS layout still causes too
many compatibility problems with non-CSS browsers and even early
implementations of CSS (read: Netscape 4.x) for my taste.

Once again, that's http://216.92.182.162

Much thanks.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



The Art Of Photoshop

2004-03-27 Thread Jostein
Gang,
Just got the link below from a non-photographing friend.

 http://www.annthenwhat.com/photoshopped.html


Enjoy.

Jostein 



SV: something weird...

2004-03-27 Thread Jens Bladt
Me too...
Jens

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 27. marts 2004 13:47
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: something weird...



Sorry guys I know I am supposed to be having a break from PDML, but
something strange just happened...

I just replied to Robert's Perfect Lighting Tutorial thread, and a few
minutes later received this email:

Out of Office Reply: Perfect Lighting Tutorial
I am on leave from 29th March to the 9th April.
If necessary, I can be contacted at *** .
Regards,
Max

EOM

NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is
confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the
intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person
responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised
that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination,
copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is
the disclosure of the information therein.  If you have received this
message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the
message.

It was from somebody named Max McRae.  I know it breaches netiquette and
copyright to post that here, but I figure as it was automatically generated
it should be ok.  I have removed the phone number just in case.

Does anyone know this Max?  Is he on list?  This is weird and I am worried
now that I have some sort of virus that has sent the email I sent to PDML
out to other people's Inboxes.

Any explanations?

TIA,
tan.







Re: MX expenditure.

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Smith
Subject: MX expenditure.


 This morning, whilst changing lenses, I noticed a black spec on the
mirror.
 Having carefully cleaned it, I put the lens back on and saw another
and
 anotherthe dreaded black snow of disintegrating foam. So far
the
 purchase and maintenance costs of this camera have worked out to
approx GBP
 0.015 a day, during my period of ownership. A CLA will put the
daily
 ownership figure sky high :-)

 What an expensive pastime this is!

Be glad it's not an LX. On average, mine cost arounf a dollar and a
half every time I trip the shutter.

William Robb




Re: Wideangle lens choice

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Ramesh Kumar
Subject: Re: Wideangle lens choice



 --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes, lens should be able to work on my 35mm film
 camera too.

That lets out any of the D lenses.

 
  Light fall off with the istD wouldn't be so much of
  a problem, since
  most of the fall off will be outside the sensor
  anyway.
  Most Pentax lenses aren't the greatest wide open.

 I do not think I will be shooting wide open, usage
 will be mostly above f8.

That should take care of the sharpness issues.


 My another concern with these 15mm lenses it, they may
 not be able to take normal filters due to bulby front
 element.

A very valid concern.

 Are there any 17mm altarnatives, even third party is
 ok fo me? 17mm lenses does not seem to have this
 filter issue.

Check out some of the third partly lenses. Both Tokina and Tamron are
making excellent lenses. I have an older Tokina 17mm, not an
excellent lens, but certainly passable. A friend has an older Tamron
17 that is very good indeed.
I don't think that you would especially need an AF lens with this
focal length, as at f/8 depth of field will be from within arms reach
to infinity anyway, so all you really need to look for is a decent
manual focus lens, preferably with an A setting, or if you can find
an AF lens at a good price, then that would be good also.
HTH

William Robb




something stupid

2004-03-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: Lasse ; WAS something stupid




  If anyone
 thinks that some members of this list lack circumspection, you
should
 try reading some Blondinki jokes

I think some members of this list may have been circumspected when
they were young, and never got past it.
WW




Re: OT - damaged 77mm limited photos posted

2004-03-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
Interesting site.  Not applicable the photo's indicate to me that the 
lens has serious internal damage, (and I'm not
talking about the dust visible on the photographs). 

Michel Carrère-Gée wrote:

Peter J. Alling a écrit :

This lens is badly damaged.  Well below what I would expect from a
company with Adorama's reputation.
Francis Alviar wrote:
Try:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/trucs/reparations.htm#filetage





Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.

2004-03-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually it does, he's German.

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Oops, just realised that he isn't actually Japanese - doesn't say what
nationality he is though.  BUT, he lives in Japan...
Still regardless of where he lives or what nationality he is, he has one
very funny take on life!
tan.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2004 4:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Perfect lighting tutorial.
This could have saved our own Tom V seven assistants. LOL

Neat idea.

Dave

 Must read for Tanya, before her mega-shoot ;-)
 

I think I found a solution for myself, for weddings in dark churches with
high ceilings!
http://www.juergenspecht.com/truestories/flashhelmet/?page=2



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   







 





Re: Wideangle lens choice

2004-03-27 Thread Ramesh Kumar

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, as you suggested, I am leaning towards 17mm third
party pre-owned MF lens.

 making excellent lenses. I have an older Tokina
 17mm, not an
 excellent lens, but certainly passable. A friend has
 an older Tamron
 17 that is very good indeed.

Are you reffering to Tamron SP adaptall 17mm f3.5?

Regards,
Ramesh


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Re: LX ttl flash metering questions

2004-03-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
If I remember correctly, and I'm just to lazy to dig out the manual, if 
you leave the camera on automatic when you attach the flash you're going 
to get
1/45 of a second for your sync speed.  where as if you use the x 
position you will get 1/75 of a second.  The compensation dial on the 
camera will vary the
the flash output as indicated.  (I've never tried this but I've been 
told it's true, not documented in anything I have however).

frank theriault wrote:

Omigod!  Frank's posting an actual, honest-to-goodness On Topic Pentax 
Question!!  I'm so used to putting OT in front of my posts, it seems 
almost automatic to do so.

Okay, now that you've all gotten back in the chairs that you just fell 
out of, here goes.

You may recall that I recently got a flash (Vivitar 3700) with which 
to exploit my LX's ttl flash metering capabilities.  Two questions:

1)  In the LX manual, it says that for Pentax ttl flashes, if I leave 
the shutter speed dial at Automatic, put the flash on the camera and 
turn the flash on, the camera will automatically set the shutter speed 
to the appropriate flash sync.  It shows us this by lighting up the 
led next to x in the viewfinder (which also lets us know that the 
flash is charged and ready to go).  Since my Vivitar elicits this 
reaction in the viewfinder, am I to assume that I can leave the 
shutter speed dial at Auto and not worry about changing the speed to 
x every time I put the flash on?  If so, cool!

And, here's the most important question:

2)  In another thread this week, I read (I think it was tvv) that the 
exposure compensation dial does not affect ttl flash metering.  That 
thread was talking about another fine Pentax product, but do I assume 
that applies to the LX as well?  Again, in the manual, in the Exposure 
Compensation section no mention of flashes is made, and in the Flash 
section, no mention of the exposure compensation dial is made.

I just wanted to be absolutely sure on that one, because it would be a 
real nice feature to have with the flash, methinks.

Thanks in advance,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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Re: My first PAW

2004-03-27 Thread Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Maybe someone will produce a grid screen for the *ist-D.  I've been
tipping my
 camera up to line up the base of the frame with the horizon then carefully
 tipping it back down for the final composition.  It's not really working
too
 well.

Hi, Kevin.

I have the same problem with horizons. Sometimes I even get it wrong when
using a tripod.
One thing that helps me a lot is to look carefully at the vertical edges of
the viewfinder. Angles diverging from 90° are sometimes easier to spot when
you look for them specifically.

I too wish for a grid screen for the *istD.

Jostein



Re: My PAWs Weeks 1-3

2004-03-27 Thread Keith Whaley


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 3/27/2004 10:28:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi!


Eac Later we were turned away at the door of the photography show, supposedly
Eac because I hadn't RSVPed.

Excuse me, what is it to be RSVPed?


You know, when pinned down I am not really sure what the acronym means. Reply 
something something something. It means don't show up without replying. 
Respond if you please, or 'please answer.'

Or, from the French, réspondez s'il vous plaît.

keith whaley





Komkon Down?

2004-03-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
I can't seem to reach PUG. Does anyone know what is the status?

Thanks,

Joe



Re: The Art Of Photoshop

2004-03-27 Thread graywolf
I kind of like the ones that take a moment to notice just what the gimic is.

--

Jostein wrote:

Gang,
Just got the link below from a non-photographing friend.

http://www.annthenwhat.com/photoshopped.html


Enjoy.

Jostein 


--
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http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html




RE: OT - A computer Question...

2004-03-27 Thread Nick Clark
Hi Tanya
The C: drive is the system drive and holds all temporary files and by default and 
memory swap file. If you are saving yor images to it then it will very quickly fill 
up. The reason for partitioning a drive into two or more logical drives is to keep the 
data separate, so if I were you I'd save your images to D: rather than C:.
The 100Gb quoted size is unformatted, you always lose some once formatted. 93Gb sound 
about right.
The used space on D: is likely system  files, probably because you've got the 
roll-back feature of XP set so you can return to a previous configuration in the event 
of a new software installation causing problems. If you are using mainly reliable 
software (i.e. not games) then this isn't really needed. You could format D: without 
problem.
Photoshop CS apparently likes its data, swap files, and program files on separate 
real drives, but this wouldn't really work with partitioned drives. As I mention 
above, I'd use the D: drive for your data.
Cheers
Nick

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27/03/04 23:50:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT - A computer Question...


Sorry to bug you all with my computer problems, yet again, but...

I have a new system, less than 1 month old, and I have a 100gb hard drive...

BUT, every few days, I get a warning that tells me that my hard drive is
almost full and that I need to remove temp files, offline web pages etc to
free up disk space.

I am running on Win XP, and when it arrived the drive was already
partitioned - One partition is called WinXP Home C:, and is 40gb (this is
the one that always fills up).  The second partition is called Restore
D: and is 60gb.

I have never used XP prior to now, so I am not sure if the partitioning is a
requirement of the OS, etc, but when I went and looked at the contents of
each drive, it says that on the larger Restore D: partition, used space
2.27gb, free space 57.5gb, total space 59.8gb, but it looks as though there
are no files on it at all.  All of my data, and program files are stored on
the WinXP Home C: part.  Currently (after disk cleanup etc), the C drive
reads as: used space 29.2gb, free space 3.94gb, total space 33.1gb).

S, what I am asking is a) When you add up all of the numbers, it
appears that I only have 93gb of hard drive rather than the full 100gb, does
anyone know why this is? b) Can somebody explain to me (not too technically
please!) why the drive is partitioned like this and why I keep getting this
disk full message when I still have almost 60gb of space left on the D
partition.  c) why does the D partition appear to have no files on it but
has 2.27gb used d) why doesn't my 'puter use the larger 60gb partition at
all?!?

Sorry if this is bombarding you all too much, but I am kind of annoyed that
I am getting disk full error messages, on a brand new system, that I
specifically had spec'd out with 100gb hardrive that doesn't appear to
really be 100gb and that less than half of which is actually being used!

I will actually remove alot of data in the next few days from the C drive
as alot of it is wedding pics that need to be burnt to cd, but sheesh,
surely it can't be that my new 'puter is full ALREADY?!?!

Also, it might be an idea to reply off list so that we don't ignite any
flames over this being OT etc

A BIG TIA,
tan.





Your full computer

2004-03-27 Thread John Dallman
 S, what I am asking is a) When you add up all of the numbers, it
 appears that I only have 93gb of hard drive rather than the full 100gb, 
 does anyone know why this is? 

Two different sorts of gigabyte, caused by marketing people getting 
over-enthusiastic. The Proper gigabyte is 1024*1024*1024 bytes, because 
1024 is a power of two, and computers prefer to count in powers of two. 
So a proper gigabyte is 1,073,741,824 bytes.

But hard disk manufacturers want to make their drives look bigger, so they 
measure the size in billions of bytes, or 1,000,000,000 bytes. That's 
about 7% smaller than a real gigabyte. Your drive is 93 real gigabytes, 
which is the same actual amount of storage as 100 billion bytes, just 
measured differently. 

 b) Can somebody explain to me (not too technically please!) why the 
 drive is partitioned like this and why I keep getting this disk full 
 message when I still have almost 60gb of space left on the D 
 partition.  c) why does the D partition appear to have no files on it 
 but has 2.27gb used d) why doesn't my 'puter use the larger 60gb 
 partition at all?!?

Windows doesn't use a raw drive, in much the same way as a filing cabinet 
doesn't hold loose sheets of paper. Drive letters are a way of organising 
the space, so roughly equivalent to drawers in a filing cabinet. Your hard 
drive is organised into two drawers of unequal size. 

Windows carries putting stuff into the default drawer, and then complains 
that it's full. It does this because it's extremely stupid - like an dumb 
filing clerk, who says that he can't put files into the second drawer, 
because the first drawer is for the A-Z files, and so everything belongs 
in there. 

As for why your computer is set up like this, I don't precisely know. I 
think it is something to do with providing your master copy of Windows on 
the hard disk, rather than the manufacturers having to pay Microsoft a 
dollar or so for a CD with Windows on. Since I tend to buy my computers 
from technical, rather than consumer sales organisations, I don't actually 
know why it's done this way, or if anything bad will happen if you start 
telling Windows to put files on D.

Hopefully, someone else can tell you that bit. 

--- 
John Dallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], HTML mail is treated as probable spam.



Re: My PAWs Weeks 1-3

2004-03-27 Thread graywolf
From the French.  Respondez, S'il Vous Pla, or some thing like that (I only 
had one semester of French in Jr High which I flunked). Literally, respond, if 
you please. Means Let us know if you plan to attend, or Response is required.

--

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eac Later we were turned away at the door of the photography show, supposedly
Eac because I hadn't RSVPed.

Excuse me, what is it to be RSVPed?


You know, when pinned down I am not really sure what the acronym means. Reply 
something something something. It means don't show up without replying. Call 
someone and let them know you are coming. In most cases, RSVP is not that 
important. Especially on more public events. You can show up anyway -- an RSVP is 
just a courtesy. Unless it's more private, like someone's birthday party.  ;-)

In this case, my not RSVPing it was a good excuse to use to bar our entry.


--
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http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html




RE: My second PAW

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Kevin,

I've looked at the first one, but now having seen this one, won't comment on 
#1.  I'd only be echoing other's comments.

I do like this one a lot more.  Seeing the road behind it puts it into 
context as being a roadside chapel in the truest sense of the words.  
Also, the trees help us to see how small it is;  we didn't get that sense in 
the first one.

I like the shrine off-centre a bit, too.  I think this photo tells us much 
more about this building than the first, and for that it's a much better 
record, and a much better photograph.

cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: My second PAW
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:27:59 -0600
Thanks.  I think it's a really interesting little building.  It is pretty 
much
in the middle of nowhere.  Just place to pull off the road.  Unfortunately, 
the
picture is not so interesting.  The crop is tight because 1) I lost a 
little
when I straightened the picture and 2) the surroundings seemed to make the
picture even less interesting.  Here's another perspective I tried.  The 
only
edit I've done is to level it.  (Again, I don't want the salt-water to run 
out
and ruin all your monitors.)

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103760/Small

So between the two pictures maybe someone can give some suggestions on how 
to
approach this subject, including, I guess, pass it by.

OT:  Every time I drive by this little shrine, I wonder, What's in there? 
 So,
I did step inside the door.  There were no lights and the sun was getting 
low on
the horizon.  Fortunately, I had the little pop-up flash on my *ist-D.  If 
you
are curious, here it is:(this is not a PAW, just documentation of the 
inside--no
need to critique)

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/88862/1/3103776/Small

It just sits there, unguarded and open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My second PAW



Hi Kevin ...

This one doesn't do much for me.  The shrine is too close to (and even 
clipped
by) the edge of the frame.  A little more space would help the photo quite 
a
bit.  Looks a little flat on my monitor, too.

shel

Kevin Thornsberry wrote:

 Please forgive my posting two PAWs at one time.  I did take the first
 PAW about a week before the second.

 As with the first, I am hoping for lots of suggestions.

 http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/64097/1/3095033/Medium

 Before posting the picture, I rotated it slightly and applied a light
 skew to get the tipping out of the chapel.  In retrospect, maybe it
 has a little lean to it which I should not have altered.

 Thanks for your help.

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Computer Question

2004-03-27 Thread Chris
Hi Tanja,I am just a little perplexed at your problem.I have an HP
t134a(Windows XP) with a 120 GB Hard drive and it is partitioned for restore
but the main partition C Drive is 100 GB with the restoreD drive 20 GB.It
seems to me your ratios are all wrong.You quote 40GB c Drive and 60GB
Ddrive.They should be reversed with your C drive being the larger by far
of the two.
Regards Chris Kennedy




Re: MX expenditure.

2004-03-27 Thread frank theriault
Do you mean generally, or because of the cost of ciggies?

vbg

(sorry, Malcolm, but you walked right into that one.  you've gotto admit, 
you left yourself wide open!)

cheers,
frank
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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm stunned.

Malcolm


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Re: OT - A computer Question...

2004-03-27 Thread Herb Chong
i don't know who configured your computer, but i can't imagine a restore
drive being more than about 5 or 10 GB. 60 GB is ridiculous. it says 90%
free, so it is even more ridiculous. take the computer to someone that has
and knows how to use the current version of Partition Magic and have them
resize the two partitions to be about 80G for your C drive and everything
else for your D drive.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:50 PM
Subject: OT - A computer Question...


 I am running on Win XP, and when it arrived the drive was already
 partitioned - One partition is called WinXP Home C:, and is 40gb (this
is
 the one that always fills up).  The second partition is called Restore
 D: and is 60gb.




Re: MX expenditure.

2004-03-27 Thread Steve Jolly
They're approaching $9 in the UK, although the current exchange rate 
distorts things a little... :-)

Still, you can get a lot of camera equipment for $3,285.

S

Malcolm Smith wrote:

Shel wrote:


Cigs here in California are as much as $4.00 a pack for name 
brands like Marlboro, so that's $6.00 a day x 365 = $2,190.00

That's an istd and more.


I'm stunned.

Malcolm





Re: Computer Question

2004-03-27 Thread mapson
At 10:50 AM 28/03/2004, you wrote:
Hi Tanja,I am just a little perplexed at your problem.I have an HP
t134a(Windows XP) with a 120 GB Hard drive and it is partitioned for restore
but the main partition C Drive is 100 GB with the restoreD drive 20 GB.It
seems to me your ratios are all wrong.You quote 40GB c Drive and 60GB
Ddrive.They should be reversed with your C drive being the larger by far
of the two.
Regards Chris Kennedy
I beg to differ, Chris.

I am successfully running my comp on C being 6.5Gb

That is used for OS and other things that have to go on C, rest of 
programmes go on D. Other partitions are used for file storage.

So it is not a case of how much space you have initially on your C drive, 
it is a case of how much junk you put on it afterwards ;-D



   (*)o(*) 
Robert
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Re: OT - A computer Question...

2004-03-27 Thread mapson

resize the two partitions to be about 80G for your C drive and everything
else for your D drive.
Herb


I am not an IT expert, but my understanding is that the drives should not 
be kept at such big sizes. Especially the OS and ones that have progs on 
them. They get fragmented easily - imagine defragmenting such a monster! 
Personally I would not make the C drive more than 8Gb in FAT and more than 
20Gb in NTFS. That is my personal preferrence.

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
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RE: Computer Question

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Yes, Chris!  That is what I would have thought too, which is why I too have
been so confused!  BUT, being unfamiliar with the full workings of XP, I
thought that maybe it was setup somehow to accomodate that.

So after reading everybody's (extremely helpful!) responses, I am guessing
that if I take my TMP (Tanya Mayer Photography) folder that contains pretty
much all of my data, pix etc and is currently around 12gb in size, and just
dump it on the D: it would be ok?

I am still concerned due to the title of the D: being restore, it really
makes me wonder if I should be using it...

Also, as raised by Nick (and suggested by Robert), I have wondered about
setting my scratch disk for PS to D: - should I do this, or wouldn't it have
any effect due to the fact that it is only a drive partition and not a
separate physical drive?  It is currently set to use StartUp as the first
scratch disk, and D: as the second.  Can anyone tell me why there are
choices for up to four separate scratch disks and how should I be setting
them up in order of preference...

Thanks again for all of your great responses, you have all pretty much
confirmed what I already knew, but now I understand why I don't appear to
have the full amount of gb etc.

What would I do without this list...?!?!  vbg

tan.


-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2004 11:21 AM
To: Tanya Mayer Photography; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Computer Question


Hi Tanja,I am just a little perplexed at your problem.I have an HP
t134a(Windows XP) with a 120 GB Hard drive and it is partitioned for restore
but the main partition C Drive is 100 GB with the restoreD drive 20 GB.It
seems to me your ratios are all wrong.You quote 40GB c Drive and 60GB
Ddrive.They should be reversed with your C drive being the larger by far
of the two.
Regards Chris Kennedy





Re: Computer Question

2004-03-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Mar 2004 at 11:01, mapson wrote:

 At 10:50 AM 28/03/2004, you wrote:
 Hi Tanja,I am just a little perplexed at your problem.I have an HP
 t134a(Windows XP) with a 120 GB Hard drive and it is partitioned for restore
 but the main partition C Drive is 100 GB with the restoreD drive 20 GB.It
 seems to me your ratios are all wrong.You quote 40GB c Drive and 60GB
 Ddrive.They should be reversed with your C drive being the larger by far of
 the two. Regards Chris Kennedy
 
 I beg to differ, Chris.
 
 I am successfully running my comp on C being 6.5Gb
 
 That is used for OS and other things that have to go on C, rest of 
 programmes go on D. Other partitions are used for file storage.

I have to agree, I just re-partitioned my OS drive with was 2GB to 6GB and I 
now have almost 65% spare system area, should last me another 7 years :-)
I simply maintain an off line HDD with a duplicate of my current OS in case of 
problems.

I have many other partition and system and network drives all of which are 
substantially larger than my OS drive. My applications are installed only on my 
OS drive and no user data is stored in my OS drive including my desk-top and 
other profile data. Having no experience with XP though I don't know what 
degree of control the OS authors have taken away from the user in order to make 
it more user friendly :-(


Rob Studdert
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RE: OT - A computer Question...

2004-03-27 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Ok, so now I am totally confused!  Herb and Chris say one thing, whilst
Robert says the complete opposite!

BTW, Herb, I have Partition Magic 8 which I got when I bought my laptop that
had also been partitioned and I managed to remove the partitions using that
without too much drama...

Not sure if I'm game enough to try it here though, I would probably lose a
good portion of my data.

Of course, when I get my DVD burner it won't be an issue, I can burn it all,
but at the moment I have about 20gb of data to save and that's aloot
of CD's!!

Also, I don't have the original windows CD with this and thus can't reformat
the hard drive... Maybe I should just wait until the manufacturers open
tomorrow morning and ring them and ask them about the way the drive is set
up...?

Oh, AND this probably makes a huge difference in what all of this means and
I should have posted it originally... BUT, the C: is formatted as NTFS and
the D: is FAT32 - Can anyone explain THIS?

The plot thickens...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2004 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - A computer Question...


i don't know who configured your computer, but i can't imagine a restore
drive being more than about 5 or 10 GB. 60 GB is ridiculous. it says 90%
free, so it is even more ridiculous. take the computer to someone that has
and knows how to use the current version of Partition Magic and have them
resize the two partitions to be about 80G for your C drive and everything
else for your D drive.

Herb
- Original Message -
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:50 PM
Subject: OT - A computer Question...


 I am running on Win XP, and when it arrived the drive was already
 partitioned - One partition is called WinXP Home C:, and is 40gb (this
is
 the one that always fills up).  The second partition is called Restore
 D: and is 60gb.





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