Re: Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses
What is this word you say... marketing??? http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote: > So what you're saying is that Ricoh is following the fine tradition of > Pentax marketing. > > On 1/4/2016 11:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >> I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company >> that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had >> superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the >> former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax >> marketing is. Case in point: >> >> Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images >> shown for each of the 4 lenses: >> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html >> (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to >> page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses >> on the page). All are uniformly BLAH. >> >> A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo >> Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right >> hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras, >> unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click >> the GO button. >> >> The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The >> sample images? Not so much. >> >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses
So what you're saying is that Ricoh is following the fine tradition of Pentax marketing. On 1/4/2016 11:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax marketing is. Case in point: Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images shown for each of the 4 lenses: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses on the page). All are uniformly BLAH. A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras, unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click the GO button. The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The sample images? Not so much. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses
I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax marketing is. Case in point: Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images shown for each of the 4 lenses: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses on the page). All are uniformly BLAH. A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras, unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click the GO button. The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The sample images? Not so much. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Optical Designer's scientific paper on the 43mm and 77mm Limited lenses
Thought this document might be interested to some who have not yet seen it. It was written back in the film days by Jun Hirakawa (using the U.S. way of designating names). The english is a translation. Some interesting bits in there. http://gw.org.za/images/Lens%20Technical%20and%20Trial%20Use%20Reports.%20SMC%20Pentax%20FA77mm%20and%20FA43mm.%20Hirakawa%20Jun%20and%20Adachi%20Masamitsu,%202000.pdf Mr. Hirakawa was a longtime Pentax optical designer responsible for such lenses as: FAレンズ (FA lens) SMC Pentax-F 17-28mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye SMC Pentax-FA☆ 24mm F2 AL [IF] SMC Pentax-FA 28mm F2.8 AL SMC Pentax-FA 28mm F2.8 Soft FA 43mm F1.9 Limited FA 77mm F1.8 Limited SMC Pentax-FA☆ 85mm F1.4 [IF] SMC-Pentax FA 28-105mm F4-5.6 SMC Pentax-FA 70-200mm F4-5.6 SMC-FA☆ 80-200mm f/2.8 [IF] ED SMC Pentax-FA☆ 300mm F2.8 ED [IF] SMC Pentax-FA☆ 600mm F4 ED [IF] DAレンズ (DA lens) smc PENTAX-DA FISH-EYE 10-17mmF3.5-4.5ED (IF) smc PENTAX-DA 14mm F2.8 ED(IF) smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited smc PENTAX-DA 40mmF2.8 XS HD PENTAX-DA 40mmF2.8 Limited smc PENTAX-DA☆ 55mm F1.4 SDM smc PENTAX-DA 50-200mm F4-5.6ED smc PENTAX-DA 50-200mm F4-5.6ED WR smc PENTAX-DA 55-300mm F4-5.8ED HD PENTAX-DA 55-300mm F4-5.8ED WR When Hoya purchased Pentax he was dismissed and went to work for Tamron where he is is apparently responsible for the improved Tamron SP 24-70 mm f/2,8 Di VC (which, sadly, is not available in a Pentax mount). I believe he also had a hand in the Tamron SP 70-20mm f/2.8 Di VC. Both are highly regarded lenses. Asahi Man on dpreview called Hoya bloody idiots for letting him go. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, George; you cleared my confusion up. To control two lights you simply switched to Nikon. Neat. :-) Ha! That wasn't exactly what happened but that was the outcome. I had been happily using all of my Pentax gear for years, decades in fact. After years of teaching and seeing a lot of other manufacturer's gear I considered using Nikon. For one reason or another, mainly inertia, I never actually found a good reason to buy a different brand of camera body. Then, a few years ago, some of my Pentax gear got wrecked in an accident and replacing it in kind would have been a considerable cash outlay. Should I spend a bunch of money to get exactly the same thing or should I look at this as an opportunity to try something different? That was the motivator. If I were to make a change in my equipment strategy, that was going to be the time to do it. I liked Nikon because it actually works very similar to Pentax, and at the time, Nikon's flash system was much more advanced than Canon. So now, depending on what I'm doing, I either use Nikon or Pentax. I still use Pentax anytime I shoot Macro or when I want a small kit made up of the small primes and the 10-17 zoom. Because I find them so similar in design, and use them for different things, it isn't difficult to switch back and forth. I'm not really all that loyal to any of the brands. They are all just tools and I tend to use the one that best fits the job. George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
http://www.paulcbuff.com/cc.php I don't know if it has an app for your phone, but OTOH, it fits in the hot-shoe and you don't have to keep one hand free for the phone or worry about where you put the phone down while using the camera. On 8/29/2013 5:01 PM, George Sinos wrote: Larry said This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. I have to agree with that. Sounds like a good kickstarter project for someone. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
When I first got my Cybersync from them I discovered that the old OLD White Lightning 1 used a stereo 1/4 inch plug wired tip ring so that the cable with the regular 1/4 inch mono plug wouldn't quite work. I emailed their support asking if they sold a cable to fit, mentioning that I had two of the old units they dropped two special made cords into the mail to me the same day no charge. Their quality matches pocket wizards, but their price is a whole lot better. On 8/30/2013 4:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 03:53:14PM -0400, John wrote: http://www.paulcbuff.com/cc.php I don't know if it has an app for your phone, but OTOH, it fits in the hot-shoe and you don't have to keep one hand free for the phone or worry about where you put the phone down while using the camera. I should look into those. A friend gave me some pocket wizard IIs (no fancy features), and they are so much better than the cheap chinese radio triggers that I'm afraid that I've gotten permanently spoiled. The PCB units at first glance seem to be a lot less expensive than equivalent PWs. I'm a big fan of PCB, not only are their replacement bulbs (for 20-30 year obsolete gear no less) a lot less expensive than many others, when one of my archaic white lightnings died, and wasn't repairable, they offered me a new unit for half of list price. On 8/29/2013 5:01 PM, George Sinos wrote: Larry said This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. I have to agree with that. Sounds like a good kickstarter project for someone. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 03:53:14PM -0400, John wrote: http://www.paulcbuff.com/cc.php I don't know if it has an app for your phone, but OTOH, it fits in the hot-shoe and you don't have to keep one hand free for the phone or worry about where you put the phone down while using the camera. I should look into those. A friend gave me some pocket wizard IIs (no fancy features), and they are so much better than the cheap chinese radio triggers that I'm afraid that I've gotten permanently spoiled. The PCB units at first glance seem to be a lot less expensive than equivalent PWs. I'm a big fan of PCB, not only are their replacement bulbs (for 20-30 year obsolete gear no less) a lot less expensive than many others, when one of my archaic white lightnings died, and wasn't repairable, they offered me a new unit for half of list price. On 8/29/2013 5:01 PM, George Sinos wrote: Larry said This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. I have to agree with that. Sounds like a good kickstarter project for someone. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
Quite so, John. Thanks very much for pointing them out. I was not aware that the CC was so full featured, or that their wireless units work with speedlights. Their price matches many of the cheap eBay units and I'd trust them much more. Still not as cheap as the Cowboy Studios gadgets, but when I'm ready to move up I know where I'm headed. I plan to become very Buff. :-) On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: When I first got my Cybersync from them I discovered that the old OLD White Lightning 1 used a stereo 1/4 inch plug wired tip ring so that the cable with the regular 1/4 inch mono plug wouldn't quite work. I emailed their support asking if they sold a cable to fit, mentioning that I had two of the old units they dropped two special made cords into the mail to me the same day no charge. Their quality matches pocket wizards, but their price is a whole lot better. On 8/30/2013 4:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 03:53:14PM -0400, John wrote: http://www.paulcbuff.com/cc.php I don't know if it has an app for your phone, but OTOH, it fits in the hot-shoe and you don't have to keep one hand free for the phone or worry about where you put the phone down while using the camera. I should look into those. A friend gave me some pocket wizard IIs (no fancy features), and they are so much better than the cheap chinese radio triggers that I'm afraid that I've gotten permanently spoiled. The PCB units at first glance seem to be a lot less expensive than equivalent PWs. I'm a big fan of PCB, not only are their replacement bulbs (for 20-30 year obsolete gear no less) a lot less expensive than many others, when one of my archaic white lightnings died, and wasn't repairable, they offered me a new unit for half of list price. On 8/29/2013 5:01 PM, George Sinos wrote: Larry said This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. I have to agree with that. Sounds like a good kickstarter project for someone. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
Some things just can't be rushed. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: How come it took them sixty years to figure out that rounder aperture blades improves bokeh? -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
I've been working with a two flashes trying to improve my portrait skills for a while. I have to say the ability to adjust the flashes from the camera position, either in TTL or Manual, is much more than a convenience for me. Since the flash units don't have modeling lights I really like the ability to make small changes in the light output to accommodate a small pose change. Also, the flash may be high up on a stand with the control panel out of reach or out of sight. An adjustment would either require climbing a ladder or lowering the light stand then trying to return it to the same position. All the while the subject is sitting there getting out of the mood. Using the built-in flash in the 'command only mode was a brilliant design move. That allows amateurs on a budget to slowly move into remote flash control without buying extra equipment. I think that feature is under appreciated by many. Nikon works slightly better than Pentax for this, but both work well. Canon is just now figuring out that remote flash is valuable and has started to put those features into some of their equipment. Everyone doesn't work the same way, and I wouldn't suggest that they should. But for me this method work pretty well. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:07:23PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode. I'm seriously looking at one of those midwest photo lumopros as a manual backup to the Metz. If I'm using multiple strobes I'm not going to be shooting in TTL mode anyways. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
I agree, George, and I used the built-in wireless features for a couple of years, but I found serious shortcomings and eventually gave it up. You seem to be suggesting that you are able to control two flashes in P-TTL from the popup. True? I could _never_ get that to work at all. Either one remote flash would fire or neither. Re light adjustment: you're talking about bumping the remote's output by +1 through -2 stops from the camera's menu, right? But this would adjust both remote flashes by the same amount. That's almost never useful for me; individual control is generally what's needed. I really hear you about the climbing up to or lowering flashes to adjust them. It's even worse if they're inside an umbrella-style softbox: lower stand, rip velcro, reach in and adjust flash, reattach velcro, raise stand. Ugh. But my answer is to start with a basic pose, create the lighting arrangement, establish the base levels at that point using the flash meter, then start shooting. I avoid the temptation to make minor light tweaks until I decide to radically change the pose, say from 3/4 to silhouette. Any minor light differences from subject movement can be fixed by dodge/burn in post. Adjusting the lights while shooting is similar to excessive chimping -- a sure buzzkill. A great answer to no modelling light is to use an LED video light. You can walk around with it handheld until you find the right spot, then move your flash into that position. Or even mount the LEDs into the light modifier along with the flash using a double shoe. If you are deep into studying subtle lighting variations, you might want to consider high power CFLs (45 watts and up). With a cheap AC umbrella adapter they can be used with umbrellas and umbrella-style softboxes, like the Westcott Apollo. True WYSIWYG and don't get too hot. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working with a two flashes trying to improve my portrait skills for a while. I have to say the ability to adjust the flashes from the camera position, either in TTL or Manual, is much more than a convenience for me. Since the flash units don't have modeling lights I really like the ability to make small changes in the light output to accommodate a small pose change. Also, the flash may be high up on a stand with the control panel out of reach or out of sight. An adjustment would either require climbing a ladder or lowering the light stand then trying to return it to the same position. All the while the subject is sitting there getting out of the mood. Using the built-in flash in the 'command only mode was a brilliant design move. That allows amateurs on a budget to slowly move into remote flash control without buying extra equipment. I think that feature is under appreciated by many. Nikon works slightly better than Pentax for this, but both work well. Canon is just now figuring out that remote flash is valuable and has started to put those features into some of their equipment. Everyone doesn't work the same way, and I wouldn't suggest that they should. But for me this method work pretty well. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:07:23PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode. I'm seriously looking at one of those midwest photo lumopros as a manual backup to the Metz. If I'm using multiple strobes I'm not going to be shooting in TTL mode anyways. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
It probably hasn't taken them that long to figure that out - it's taken them that long to realise it's a marketing point. B On 29 Aug 2013, at 13:27, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Some things just can't be rushed. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: How come it took them sixty years to figure out that rounder aperture blades improves bokeh? -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New weatherproof flash units HD Limited lenses
On 8/27/2013 7:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. That is exactly what my point was. This is a major, and much needed upgrade. Didn't Ricewhine actually predict something like this about a year ago? I wouldn't consider it a prediction if it's from a year ago, and Ricewhine has predicted a lot of things, very few of which have come true, (I know predict a lot of things those that come true trumpet to the world, those that don't never happened. There's a business model in there somewhere). -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hey, I'd like to see a 24x36mm sensor Pentax too. If they change the lens mount as some have been calling for, it kind of defeats the purpose from my point of view. On 8/28/2013 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 02:27:38PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I believe Larry was just being an ass, mocking those of us who do want a full-frame DSLR from Pentax. I wasn't *just* being an ass, I was also being humorous. And I was not mocking people who want a Pentax with a 24x36 sensor, I am strongly in that camp myself. I was mocking those who treat any announcement that isn't an upcoming full frame DSLR as tangible proof that Pentax as a brand is doomed, and anyone who uses Pentax cameras will shortly be consigned to the dustbin of irrelevance. On 8/27/2013 6:47 PM, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. The full frame obsession is sickening, and blinds you to any positive thing that Ricoh does to enhance the brand. Because they don't do the one thing that you believe is the only thing that they can be competitive, you dismiss the entire brand as dead. I guess there is no harsher critic than a fan. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Bruce - In general we don't work too differently. Yes, I'm controlling two lights. With Pentax I only had a single control. I tried using the contrast control mode with a second flash. It worked, but never i really got it to work well enough. But still, It was usable if you have a lot of patience. I think the Pentax flash system is a good way to get started, but it's more limited than the Nikon. Since then I switched over to the Nikon world for this type of photography. Nikon does a better job of letting you control multiple flashes. With the just the body you can control two independent groups of lights in the range from -3 to +1. Then, once you are happy with the lighting ratio, you can increase or decrease all of the groups at the same time with flash exposure compensation. Added to that, the regular exposure compensation will change all of the lighting groups together, including ambient. There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. That's a great idea about adding modelling lights with cheap LCD panels and multiple hot shoes. You can find the panels really cheap if you don't care about how well the color is controlled. I've learned that lighting adds an entirely new dimension to spending money on photography. There are more lighting accessories and modifiers than you can shake a stick at. I've been attempting to keep my kit as simple as possible. As I get older I want to carry as little as possible to a shooting location. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, George, and I used the built-in wireless features for a couple of years, but I found serious shortcomings and eventually gave it up. You seem to be suggesting that you are able to control two flashes in P-TTL from the popup. True? I could _never_ get that to work at all. Either one remote flash would fire or neither. Re light adjustment: you're talking about bumping the remote's output by +1 through -2 stops from the camera's menu, right? But this would adjust both remote flashes by the same amount. That's almost never useful for me; individual control is generally what's needed. I really hear you about the climbing up to or lowering flashes to adjust them. It's even worse if they're inside an umbrella-style softbox: lower stand, rip velcro, reach in and adjust flash, reattach velcro, raise stand. Ugh. But my answer is to start with a basic pose, create the lighting arrangement, establish the base levels at that point using the flash meter, then start shooting. I avoid the temptation to make minor light tweaks until I decide to radically change the pose, say from 3/4 to silhouette. Any minor light differences from subject movement can be fixed by dodge/burn in post. Adjusting the lights while shooting is similar to excessive chimping -- a sure buzzkill. A great answer to no modelling light is to use an LED video light. You can walk around with it handheld until you find the right spot, then move your flash into that position. Or even mount the LEDs into the light modifier along with the flash using a double shoe. If you are deep into studying subtle lighting variations, you might want to consider high power CFLs (45 watts and up). With a cheap AC umbrella adapter they can be used with umbrellas and umbrella-style softboxes, like the Westcott Apollo. True WYSIWYG and don't get too hot. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working with a two flashes trying to improve my portrait skills for a while. I have to say the ability to adjust the flashes from the camera position, either in TTL or Manual, is much more than a convenience for me. Since the flash units don't have modeling lights I really like the ability to make small changes in the light output to accommodate a small pose change. Also, the flash may be high up on a stand with the control panel out of reach or out of sight. An adjustment would either require climbing a ladder or lowering the light stand then trying to return it to the same position. All the while the subject is sitting there getting out of the mood. Using the built-in flash in the 'command only mode was a brilliant design move. That allows amateurs on a budget to slowly move into remote flash control without buying extra equipment. I think that feature is under appreciated by many. Nikon works slightly better than Pentax
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry said This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. I have to agree with that. Sounds like a good kickstarter project for someone. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. Agreed. Having on-camera remote group control (as Canons can do, say), is a notch better than having to go to the flash to do it, but still not where I want it. A handheld device would be ideal; and I'm hoping the yongnuo 560TX will be able to do that. Will have to wait and see... - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, George; you cleared my confusion up. To control two lights you simply switched to Nikon. Neat. :-) Having read the Joe McNally books I'm aware of just how sophisticated that lighting system is. I'm happily remaining low-tech and individually metering manually adjusted lights. Even just trying to use exposure comp with P-TTL makes me a little crazy. I sure hear you on travelling light. I discovered on my last location shoot that no stands at all and one umbrella softbox was all I needed. Instead of stands I brought two assistants (cost: one Tim Hortons tea and a hot chocolate), one held the softbox key and one a bare flash for a kicker/hair light. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:46 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bruce - In general we don't work too differently. Yes, I'm controlling two lights. With Pentax I only had a single control. I tried using the contrast control mode with a second flash. It worked, but never i really got it to work well enough. But still, It was usable if you have a lot of patience. I think the Pentax flash system is a good way to get started, but it's more limited than the Nikon. Since then I switched over to the Nikon world for this type of photography. Nikon does a better job of letting you control multiple flashes. With the just the body you can control two independent groups of lights in the range from -3 to +1. Then, once you are happy with the lighting ratio, you can increase or decrease all of the groups at the same time with flash exposure compensation. Added to that, the regular exposure compensation will change all of the lighting groups together, including ambient. There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. That's a great idea about adding modelling lights with cheap LCD panels and multiple hot shoes. You can find the panels really cheap if you don't care about how well the color is controlled. I've learned that lighting adds an entirely new dimension to spending money on photography. There are more lighting accessories and modifiers than you can shake a stick at. I've been attempting to keep my kit as simple as possible. As I get older I want to carry as little as possible to a shooting location. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, George, and I used the built-in wireless features for a couple of years, but I found serious shortcomings and eventually gave it up. You seem to be suggesting that you are able to control two flashes in P-TTL from the popup. True? I could _never_ get that to work at all. Either one remote flash would fire or neither. Re light adjustment: you're talking about bumping the remote's output by +1 through -2 stops from the camera's menu, right? But this would adjust both remote flashes by the same amount. That's almost never useful for me; individual control is generally what's needed. I really hear you about the climbing up to or lowering flashes to adjust them. It's even worse if they're inside an umbrella-style softbox: lower stand, rip velcro, reach in and adjust flash, reattach velcro, raise stand. Ugh. But my answer is to start with a basic pose, create the lighting arrangement, establish the base levels at that point using the flash meter, then start shooting. I avoid the temptation to make minor light tweaks until I decide to radically change the pose, say from 3/4 to silhouette. Any minor light differences from subject movement can be fixed by dodge/burn in post. Adjusting the lights while shooting is similar to excessive chimping -- a sure buzzkill. A great answer to no modelling light is to use an LED video light. You can walk around with it handheld until you find the right spot, then move your flash into that position. Or even mount the LEDs into the light modifier along with the flash using a double shoe. If you are deep into studying subtle lighting variations, you might want to consider high power CFLs (45 watts and up). With a cheap AC umbrella adapter they can be used with umbrellas and umbrella-style softboxes, like the Westcott Apollo. True WYSIWYG and don't get too hot. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working with a two flashes trying to improve my portrait skills for a while. I have to say the ability to adjust the flashes from the camera position, either in TTL or Manual, is much
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:46:05PM -0500, George Sinos wrote: Hi Bruce - There are enough controls so you can get yourself thoroughly confused if you're not careful. If you want to control 3 groups at the same time you have to add the SU-800 controller for about $250 or so. I haven't had the need to do that. I'm only using two flashes. If I need a third light for a hair light or background light I have a couple of really cheap LCD panels that have worked OK so far. Every so often I wish for a remote control on the hair light, but not often enough to spend money on it. This is why I want my flashes to be controlled vi wifi, and with an app for my phone/tablet/computer where I can simply and easily see and control everything from one place. WiFi would add needless baggage; both ends (Tx/Rx) would have to implement a TCP/IP stack for starters. But no need, the basic signalling that the various radio triggers employ can (and does) easily support a command channel. PocketWizard already supports multichannels and groups and if you have the dough that's the way to go to get on-off control right from on top of the camera. Unfortunately there's no easy way to get more control of speedlights at the shoe, so controlling light output is yet to happen. I've used the radio trigger/controller that comes with Elinchrom studio strobes and it's really nice. Even nicer are the Profoto units. Full control of all functions of all your lights from the transmitter on the camera's shoe. Somebody who makes speedlights should team up with PocketWizard and implement full remote control. That would sell like crazy. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/8/13, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather- resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news- listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to- pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24? utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news- listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Bill Robb, you'll need a bigger cabinet. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It totally is Larry! Just the other week, I had 4 540s set up with soft boxes and was losing ambient light fast. The family I was shooting were almost over it and we were just about to start shooting my final series of shots when it started to rain. It was only light rain and pose no problem to the family or my camera but of course as soon as I realised what might happen with any of the flashes getting wet we had to can it. Booke in a reshoot, a whole extra days work and all of that setup wasted! Grr! Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:54 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49:32AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote: This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for the time being. Yes, it's funny how a flash being weatherproof can be important when you don't expect it to. Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy someday in the future. As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540 II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making me wonder if there's anything there at all. I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option on future flashes. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tanya, I carry some clear plastic bags to pop over flashes if there's danger of wetting. You could also spray waterproofing on the softbox shell fabric, and/or Scotchguard. If you're using them in the rain I think you'd want to do that anyway. Flashes inside softboxes are pretty safe from light rain. But I guess I do have to agree that knowing there's no danger from water on your flashes would let you concentrate on finishing the shoot. However, one question: you said that Pentax having waterproof flashes would stop you from switching to Canon. Uh, were you just joshing there? Does Canon have waterproof flashes? Just curious. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: It totally is Larry! Just the other week, I had 4 540s set up with soft boxes and was losing ambient light fast. The family I was shooting were almost over it and we were just about to start shooting my final series of shots when it started to rain. It was only light rain and pose no problem to the family or my camera but of course as soon as I realised what might happen with any of the flashes getting wet we had to can it. Booke in a reshoot, a whole extra days work and all of that setup wasted! Grr! Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:54 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49:32AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote: This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for the time being. Yes, it's funny how a flash being weatherproof can be important when you don't expect it to. Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy someday in the future. As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540 II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making me wonder if there's anything there at all. I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option on future flashes. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, Canon's 600EX-RT is weather sealed; same for the 580EX-II. Alex On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Tanya, I carry some clear plastic bags to pop over flashes if there's danger of wetting. You could also spray waterproofing on the softbox shell fabric, and/or Scotchguard. If you're using them in the rain I think you'd want to do that anyway. Flashes inside softboxes are pretty safe from light rain. But I guess I do have to agree that knowing there's no danger from water on your flashes would let you concentrate on finishing the shoot. However, one question: you said that Pentax having waterproof flashes would stop you from switching to Canon. Uh, were you just joshing there? Does Canon have waterproof flashes? Just curious. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah; thanks! On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Canon's 600EX-RT is weather sealed; same for the 580EX-II. Alex On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Tanya, I carry some clear plastic bags to pop over flashes if there's danger of wetting. You could also spray waterproofing on the softbox shell fabric, and/or Scotchguard. If you're using them in the rain I think you'd want to do that anyway. Flashes inside softboxes are pretty safe from light rain. But I guess I do have to agree that knowing there's no danger from water on your flashes would let you concentrate on finishing the shoot. However, one question: you said that Pentax having waterproof flashes would stop you from switching to Canon. Uh, were you just joshing there? Does Canon have waterproof flashes? Just curious. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sit on it and rotate. On 8/27/2013 6:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm thinking those are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price and actual prices once you can order them from BH or Adorama will be lower. On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in their RD department. I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm using an old AF200 instead. I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D. I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models. Not good value. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I believe Larry was just being an ass, mocking those of us who do want a full-frame DSLR from Pentax. On 8/27/2013 6:47 PM, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. The full frame obsession is sickening, and blinds you to any positive thing that Ricoh does to enhance the brand. Because they don't do the one thing that you believe is the only thing that they can be competitive, you dismiss the entire brand as dead. I guess there is no harsher critic than a fan. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Which you can _now_ do on the AF360 since Pentax added head rotation to that model. I missed that the first read through, and it's a great thing because lots of folks won't have to get the much more spendy AF540 as a result. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:18 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Sit on it and rotate. On 8/27/2013 6:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 02:27:38PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: I believe Larry was just being an ass, mocking those of us who do want a full-frame DSLR from Pentax. I wasn't *just* being an ass, I was also being humorous. And I was not mocking people who want a Pentax with a 24x36 sensor, I am strongly in that camp myself. I was mocking those who treat any announcement that isn't an upcoming full frame DSLR as tangible proof that Pentax as a brand is doomed, and anyone who uses Pentax cameras will shortly be consigned to the dustbin of irrelevance. On 8/27/2013 6:47 PM, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. The full frame obsession is sickening, and blinds you to any positive thing that Ricoh does to enhance the brand. Because they don't do the one thing that you believe is the only thing that they can be competitive, you dismiss the entire brand as dead. I guess there is no harsher critic than a fan. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Which you can _now_ do on the AF360 since Pentax added head rotation to that model. I missed that the first read through, and it's a great thing because lots of folks won't have to get the much more spendy AF540 as a result. I missed that too. That is a nice upgrade. One of the main reasons I bought a Metz 48 AF-1 a few years ago was that I considered head rotation an essential feature, and the AF540 was too pricey. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Time will tell. When I bought my two AF540's in 2008 I was able to shop around and get them for around $300, Canadian. Then came The Big Price Realignment and they shot up to $700 list or so. The Usual Suspects stores have them for $600 now, and I see you can get 'em for as little as $450 in a dicey online store. Typical good price appears to be about $500. Even if I could get one for $300 again, I'd be much more likely to go for a 3rd party unit like the Phottix Mitros: http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2013/07/phottix-mitros-nikon-review-real-deal.html which is designed for serious shooting. Even has battery pack capability. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm thinking those are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price and actual prices once you can order them from BH or Adorama will be lower. On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in their RD department. I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm using an old AF200 instead. I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D. I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models. Not good value. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/8/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28 Aug 2013, at 20:23, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 27/8/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely Don't call him Shirley. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely Don't call him Shirley. Roger that. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 08:41:52PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 28/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. That would never happen on here surely Don't call him Shirley. Roger that. If you're going to roger Shirley, get a room. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Aug 28, 2013, at 2:21 PM, John wrote: I'm thinking those are Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price and actual prices once you can order them from BH or Adorama will be lower. Preorder price at BH is the same as the MSRP. That may change over the next few weeks . . . stan On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in their RD department. I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm using an old AF200 instead. I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D. I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models. Not good value. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? I think Tanya already spoke to one reason for WR. In my case, I had several opportunities to get my 360 quite wet earlier this month. Early morning dewy meadows, handholding the flash to backlight insects or flowers, needed to set the flash down on the wet ground a few times. On the beach (actually, in the lake) after sunset, 30sec time exposures, manually firing the flash just above the water level to highlight the wave caps on the lake. Near a small waterfall, 6-10 sec exposures, handheld flash near the base of the falls to freeze some of the water. (I've entered an example of this in the September PUG.) The flash survived, I had no problems, but my anxiety level would have been considerably lower with a WR flash. stan But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in their RD department. I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm using an old AF200 instead. I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D. I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models. Not good value. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:18:50PM -0400, Stan Halpin wrote: On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? I think Tanya already spoke to one reason for WR. In my case, I had several opportunities to get my 360 quite wet earlier this month. Early morning dewy meadows, handholding the flash to backlight insects or flowers, needed to set the flash down on the wet ground a few times. On the beach (actually, in the lake) after sunset, 30sec time exposures, manually firing the flash just above the water level to highlight the wave caps on the lake. Near a small waterfall, 6-10 sec exposures, handheld flash near the base of the falls to freeze some of the water. (I've entered an example of this in the September PUG.) The flash survived, I had no problems, but my anxiety level would have been considerably lower with a WR flash. Was it Christine that had someone overflow a bathtub upstairs and have all of water end up dripping right onto her camera bag a few months ago? stan But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in their RD department. I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm using an old AF200 instead. I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D. I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models. Not good value. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? I think Tanya already spoke to one reason for WR. In my case, I had several opportunities to get my 360 quite wet earlier this month. Early morning dewy meadows, handholding the flash to backlight insects or flowers, needed to set the flash down on the wet ground a few times. On the beach (actually, in the lake) after sunset, 30sec time exposures, manually firing the flash just above the water level to highlight the wave caps on the lake. Near a small waterfall, 6-10 sec exposures, handheld flash near the base of the falls to freeze some of the water. (I've entered an example of this in the September PUG.) The flash survived, I had no problems, but my anxiety level would have been considerably lower with a WR flash. Consider me convinced, Stan. Glad your flash survived and looking forward to seeing your shot in the PUG. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? Sounds good to me! :-) Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow! This is great fun! I'm happy for the Pentax line. I have the 540 on my wish list, so when the money becomes available, I'll for for this one. Thanks for posting, Dario! Cheers, Christine On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. On 29 August 2013 10:15, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Wow! This is great fun! I'm happy for the Pentax line. I have the 540 on my wish list, so when the money becomes available, I'll for for this one. Thanks for posting, Dario! Cheers, Christine On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 01:07:23PM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode. I'm seriously looking at one of those midwest photo lumopros as a manual backup to the Metz. If I'm using multiple strobes I'm not going to be shooting in TTL mode anyways. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/28/2013 4:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:18:50PM -0400, Stan Halpin wrote: On 8/27/2013 6:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? I think Tanya already spoke to one reason for WR. In my case, I had several opportunities to get my 360 quite wet earlier this month. Early morning dewy meadows, handholding the flash to backlight insects or flowers, needed to set the flash down on the wet ground a few times. On the beach (actually, in the lake) after sunset, 30sec time exposures, manually firing the flash just above the water level to highlight the wave caps on the lake. Near a small waterfall, 6-10 sec exposures, handheld flash near the base of the falls to freeze some of the water. (I've entered an example of this in the September PUG.) The flash survived, I had no problems, but my anxiety level would have been considerably lower with a WR flash. Was it Christine that had someone overflow a bathtub upstairs and have all of water end up dripping right onto her camera bag a few months ago? No, I think it was the other one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I just got myself a Metz 58 AF-2, it seems up to the task and is very much more affordable here than the Pentax 540. I'm happy, though not ecstatic with my Metz. A few things are more awkward than they should be, like adjusting power in manual mode. I've been fairly happy with my (slightly older) 58AF-1, except it has just developed an issue with the motor zoom last week :-/ so I'm back to using the 540 for now. However I do agree the settings are a little tedious. The 54MZ series were a bit nicer in that respect. I'm seriously looking at one of those midwest photo lumopros as a manual backup to the Metz. If I'm using multiple strobes I'm not going to be shooting in TTL mode anyways. For the price, I'm pretty happy with my Yongnuo YN560-iii flashes at like $70 each. There were numerous QC issues with the original YN560, but they seem to have pretty much sorted this out. Or maybe I've just been lucky. Anyway, not only do they have built in RF receivers, but Yongnuo have recently announced they'll be releasing a trigger that allows group control with remote manual power setting on them. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. I totally noticed. All I know is, if I can't get a full frame flash soon, I'm gonna sell all my gear just shoot with my iphone. ;) -c ps: thanks, Dario for sharing the link, I had just caught a whiff of it on fb, and was in mid-google when I checked the list for news... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The LED add-on to the flash is a brilliant move, and way more useful than the WR waterproofing. I understand the motivation to cement WR as a brand-wide thing, but it's unlikely to be of very much practical use to anyone. Brightly lit raindrops or snowflakes anyone? But the constant light source for video is unique in speedlights and will probably get copied. Well, well: somebody's actually awake in their RD department. I like that the new flash models are reduced in height too. The original 540 is too tall to fit in my Westcott mini softbox and I'm using an old AF200 instead. I don't like that the focus assist function only works with the latest camera bodies. FA works just fine on the old AF540 with my K20D. I also don't like that the prices are (still) so high for both models. Not good value. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. The full frame obsession is sickening, and blinds you to any positive thing that Ricoh does to enhance the brand. Because they don't do the one thing that you believe is the only thing that they can be competitive, you dismiss the entire brand as dead. I guess there is no harsher critic than a fan. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:14:27AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 Very interesting. That weather sealing is a very nice features. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Of course, right after I finally buy a DA35 macro, they come out with an upgraded one. It's really a shame that Ricoh is abandoning Pentax, and that Pentax as a brand is doomed. Imagine the cool stuff we'd be getting if they actually cared about pentax. Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame flashes? Yet more proof that Pentax is doomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame . What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a full frame flash? Other than the markings... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some people may want to check the batteries in their Humor Detector. : ) On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame . What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a full frame flash? Other than the markings... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, but when the 'joke' is repeated ad nauseum, it ceases to be funny. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Some people may want to check the batteries in their Humor Detector. : ) On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Did you notice that the lenses are all DA, and flashes aren't even full frame . What's the difference between a flash that covers an effective FoV and a full frame flash? Other than the markings... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. That is exactly what my point was. This is a major, and much needed upgrade. Didn't Ricewhine actually predict something like this about a year ago? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I just had to buy a new 540 for my mopar nats shoot, as both of my old one were at CRIS. Arrrgh. Paul On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:47:43PM -0400, David Parsons wrote: Where do you get that Ricoh is abandoning the Pentax brand? Because they haven't announced a full frame camera? Because the flashes don't cover a 24x36 frame? Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. Sheesh. It's the first update that the flashes have gotten in years, and it's a feature that no other brand offers. This is a shot across the bow of Canon and Nikon. The price is completely ridiculous, but I really don't see how this indicates abandonment of the brand. That is exactly what my point was. This is a major, and much needed upgrade. Didn't Ricewhine actually predict something like this about a year ago? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy someday in the future. As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540 II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making me wonder if there's anything there at all. I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option on future flashes. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:07:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. I thought the notion of a full frame flash was pretty funny. I'm glad that somebody besides me did. Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of my jokes stop me from making it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for the time being. Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy someday in the future. As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540 II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making me wonder if there's anything there at all. I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option on future flashes. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:49:32AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote: This is huge for me! This could very well stop me from switching to Canon for the time being. Yes, it's funny how a flash being weatherproof can be important when you don't expect it to. Sent from my iPhone On 28/08/2013, at 10:06 AM, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-introduces-weather-resistant-flash-units?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_1 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/08/27/ricoh-announces-hd-update-to-pentax-limited-primes-15mm-f4-21mm-f32-35mm-f28-macro-40mm-f28-70mm-f24?utm_campaign=internal-linkutm_source=news-listutm_medium=textref=title_0_0 Interesting development. As an owner of the DA 21 and 35 Limited lenses, I am very curious to see how much of a difference the aperture blades and new coating make. I probably won't be upgrading my existing lenses, but it might impact which version of the other DA lenses I buy someday in the future. As for the flashes, there is one thing that concerns me: The new 540 II does not appear to support external power packs. The original 540's page on Ricoh's site for Pentax flashes lists the TR Power Pack 3 in the recycle times, but the 540 II doesn't mention that. Plus, there's no photos (yet) of the left side of either new flash, which is making me wonder if there's anything there at all. I realize there aren't many people who use external power packs, but I'd been planning on getting the TR Power Pack 3 the next time I shoot an event with my 540, and it would have been nice to have that option on future flashes. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:07:48PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean for anybody to fall into the sarchasm. I thought the notion of a full frame flash was pretty funny. I'm glad that somebody besides me did. Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of my jokes stop me from making it. After all, entertaining oneself is more important than anyone else. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's never stopped me either. Godfrey On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: ...Not that I'll let a little thing like nobody else understanding one of my jokes stop me from making it. ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I can relate to that, Dave. I had to get a new, current spec, 28-105, as my power zoom version was damaged to the point where repair was uneconomical. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2009 7:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses? On Jul 25, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Miserere wrote: I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Just make sure they're fully covered by insurance. If I was afraid to use a lens I'd sell it. Not that mine see much use anyway :( I'm actually more scared about losing or damaging the lenses that aren't directly replaceable. I have a number of older lenses that are well and truly out of manufacture... Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:14 AM, John Francis wrote: Personally I think it's a good idea to have *everything* on your home insurance at replacement cost. We could only list the camera gear at replacement value by upgrading to a better policy which has better coverage all-round. Turns out it only cost a few dollars a month more, well and truly worth it from my point of view. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well looks that way - but then I misunderstood all my former shrink told me, so could be something else. Bog knows we pentaxians suffer... lf Bong Manayon escreveu: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:12:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: gear, and even myself sometimes. Funny, I care a lot more for my Pentax gear... using Canon and Nikon with a rather heavy hand where I try to protect the Pentax. My analyst would probably understand that... It's called Stockholm Syndrome. I don't get it. The Stockholm Syndrome (a.k.a. 'battered wife syndrome') is about the victim--through abuse of all kinds--actually begins to identify with, take the side of and defend or protect the abuser. Is Pentax the abuser here for Luiz to protect it...? -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 24, 2009, at 21:44 , William Robb wrote: I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? After you've put a scratch in a good lens, you won't worry about it again. Today I did something I never do, and had my camera sitting on the passenger seat of the truck. I had to stop hard for a moron and pitched the K7 with the 31 attached onto the floor. It still seems to work. I put my loose camera on the floor of the car in a pocket created in a cushion of canvas bags I use at the grocery store. Stopping should not hurt it any, but a broadside hit from another car would certainly move it around. I used to keep it on the passenger seat (bucket), but sorta hung it from the strap over the head restraint so it could not go anywhere. But one of the dogs now insists on sitting in that seat, ergo the floor location. However! I got out of my car this evening at the dog park, and slung my K20D with grip and DA*60-250 attached over my shoulder and across my chest so I could carry my coffee and walk the dogs on leash to the gate. The coffee was still on top of the car. Just as I let the camera strap drop to my shoulder, I felt a complete loss of weight. Without looking, I reached around behind me and grabbed the falling camera body by the grip indentation with three fingers, preventing the whole lot from crashing to the ground lens first. The strap had backed itself out of the cinch and retaining loop and let go. Fancy that! Took myself a few minutes think about that, and to to re-attach the side that let go, then re-did the other side as well. Gonna have to sew those looped ends together somehow, and change them when they show fraying from wear. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 25/07/2009, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Hopefully you'll get over it, my 31, 77 and DA35 LTD go everywhere with me and my 31 is on its second hood as the fist one saved me as a slipped on a rock crossing a creek. Both it and the LX that it was attached to kept working flawlessly even though they both looked a little worse for ware. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 25, 2009, at 8:58 AM, Miserere wrote: I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Just make sure they're fully covered by insurance. If I was afraid to use a lens I'd sell it. Not that mine see much use anyway :( I'm actually more scared about losing or damaging the lenses that aren't directly replaceable. I have a number of older lenses that are well and truly out of manufacture... Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I generally carry everything I need or intend to use, it never really bothers me. I think my main fear is having the kit stolen from say the car, some of those FA primes I have would be hard to find today. The camera bag very rarely leaves me for any length of time unless in a secure location (not the car boot). The only lens that rarely makes it out of the house is the FA* 85/1.4 but I rarely find use for it and it's a relatively big chunk of glass for what it is. All my currently used lenses except the DA 16-50 have soft cases and remain in the cases even when in the camera bag to prevent damage. I find the Pentax cases easy to access from the top with little loss of time when shooting. The Tamron 90mm has it's draw string pouch, as does the 70mm Limited and the Tc's I use. The Sigma 24mm is in a Pentax S70-70 case, it fits just fine, lens hoods for the 24, 28 and 50 live in the bags front pocket. I take care of the equipment but regard everything as tools and they get used as such. Regards. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere [miser...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 July 2009 21:58 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses? Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/7/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Today I did something I never do, and had my camera sitting on the passenger seat of the truck. I had to stop hard for a moron and pitched the K7 with the 31 attached onto the floor. It still seems to work. And the camera was okay as well? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:44 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: After you've put a scratch in a good lens, you won't worry about it again. I only have the 77 ltd, and i use it inside and outdoors. No scratches, yet. Today I did something I never do, and had my camera sitting on the passenger seat of the truck. I had to stop hard for a moron and pitched the K7 with the 31 attached onto the floor. It still seems to work. I put my gear in the passenger seat all the time, I have had the K10D and the 6x7 do the same thing that happened to you on several occasions. All seem to be in good order still.:-) Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I took FA 43 with me to Prague and wiped it off the tax registration counter with one clean sweep of my hand. Had to buy a brand new one. OTOH, I took DA 21, FA 43 and FA 77 on a number of trips (except that to Prague of course) with me and they came back safely. Don't know about your condition though ;-). Boris Miserere wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you to everyone who gave me their thoughts. It seems I am well in the minority (I am a scared army of one) and the consensus is that I should stop being such a pussy and just leave the camera and Ltds in the passenger seat and not worry about using the lenses outdoors. :-) I have home insurance and the lenses are registered with them, although I'm pretty sure they cover purchase cost, not replacement value. And I think that's where my fear comes from. Most of my lenses were bought used, and for the new ones I waited patiently for months to find bargains. I couldn't afford a new 77 Ltd right now if I had to buy one :-( But lenses *are* tools, and they need to be used, and there is no point owning great glass if I can't enjoy it, especially after the sacrifices I've had to make in order to buy it. I'm off paintballing right now, so I think I'll duct tape my K10D and 31 Ltd to my rifle and just enjoy a couple hours of splattering paint :-) Cheers, --M. PS: OK, I'm joking about the paintball :-D 2009/7/24 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/7/24 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: Let's have a PDML Limited outing in Boston once I get moved in. (The movers are here packing today. What a nightmare...) Mark, That sounds like a great idea! Maybe we could make it a photo outing *Limited to* PDML members in Boston. No need to be elitist :-) But seriously, let's organise something when you settle in. There are a few Bostonians on the list, aren't there? Good luck with the movers! And if the wife asks you to make yourself useful, whip out your camera and start taking pictures. Tell her you're documenting for the insurance company ;-) --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Yeah: sell the other junk and just carry the Limiteds. I never worried one iota about them. And I didn't spend my money on them to have they stay at home while I took pictures with the less competent lenses. -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:24:37PM -0400, Miserere wrote: I have home insurance and the lenses are registered with them, although I'm pretty sure they cover purchase cost, not replacement value. That's probably something you can change. All my camera gear is explicitly listed on my homeowners insurance, covered for all risks at replacement cost. Personally I think it's a good idea to have *everything* on your home insurance at replacement cost. Ideally you'll never have to claim, but if you do the last thing you want to is bicker about the price. And, let's face it, if you got a good deal on the purchase price that's your god fortune, and nothing to do with the insurance company! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I only have the 43mm and I've manage to make the focusing helical sound like a bad starter motor when auto focusing, from banging it around so much. It makes Canon users wince. Well worth it. Miserere wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I had this problem at the beginning, having very good backup lenses didn't help me either (with the 31/43/77 purchase I never sold the lenses they were supposed to replace FA35/2, DA40, FA50). Eventually I just relaxed, and use them without thinking about it; life is short, they are just lenses, it's just money, etc. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 04:58:08PM -0400, Miserere scripsit: I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. I have the DA14, FA31, DA35, FA50, FA77, and FA100; along with the DA 55-300 and a long mirror lens they all live in the camera bag and come with me when I go anywhere. So far, I've dropped the 31 and the 100 (falling off a curb in Edinburgh, and fumbling a lens change on a bridge in the Metro Zoo, respectively; neither, thankfully, came to any harm). My take on it is if that if I'm changing a lens that is the *only* thing I'm doing; no walking, no thinking about the next shot, just changing the lens. And that means that the lens on the camera comes off and goes in the bag before the lens I'm changing to comes out of the bag. Both of the drops involved breaking that only thing rule, and I hope constitute sufficient learning experience. That said, I don't worry about them coming to harm in normal use. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Contents insurance? -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 04:58:08PM -0400, Miserere wrote: Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Easy - just buy used lenses. My A* 300 and FA* 250-600 were both well-used by the time I got them; an extra scuff-mark isn't going to stand out like a sore thumb. They're optically fine, of course. I see no point in paying for lenses I'm not going to use; I bought my camera gear to go in a camera bag, not in a display cabinet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Miserere wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? I don't have any problem with it. My 31 Ltd has a dented lens hood because it was banged during my bicycle trip in France. I think the 77 may have an out-of round hood because of a similar mishap. They're beautiful, yes, but they're made to be used so I get out and use them. Let's have a PDML Limited outing in Boston once I get moved in. (The movers are here packing today. What a nightmare...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Miserere wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. the abuse my lenses suffer would bring you to tears. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What's the point of having lenses if you don't use them? Whether I don't own the lens, or I left it at home, if I miss the shot, the kitten still dies. My K20, FA31, DA40, and FA77 all together cost me less than Dave probably paid for his D700 body. I doubt that he leaves the D700 at home for fear of damaging it. By the way, neoprene beer bottle cozies, cut to length are excellent for carrying lenses in your lens bag so that they don't bang against each other and get scratched up. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:58:08 -0400 Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? insurance. I, sadly, have not acquired any really juicy lenses to worry about but figure tools need to be used. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
Insurance indeed, at least in part of the world... elsewhere I'd suggest either faith or Vipassana meditation - maybe both. ...actually I don't think either will do much good, but it's a starting point. Took ages to get used to the wear in my gear - and only took it easier after understanding I wanted the photos badly enough to risk the gear, and even myself sometimes. Funny, I care a lot more for my Pentax gear... using Canon and Nikon with a rather heavy hand where I try to protect the Pentax. My analyst would probably understand that... lf Bran Everseeking escreveu: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:58:08 -0400 Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? insurance. I, sadly, have not acquired any really juicy lenses to worry about but figure tools need to be used. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:12:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: gear, and even myself sometimes. Funny, I care a lot more for my Pentax gear... using Canon and Nikon with a rather heavy hand where I try to protect the Pentax. My analyst would probably understand that... It's called Stockholm Syndrome. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
... as long as you don't charge for the analysis... lf Larry Colen escreveu: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:12:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: gear, and even myself sometimes. Funny, I care a lot more for my Pentax gear... using Canon and Nikon with a rather heavy hand where I try to protect the Pentax. My analyst would probably understand that... It's called Stockholm Syndrome. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
I only have the 77 and I do not have qualms bringing it outside the house. It does tend to stay indoors but that's because its used for portrait work (along with the 50mm 135mm). I tend to use zooms outdoors. Bong On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? Thanks! --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:12:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: gear, and even myself sometimes. Funny, I care a lot more for my Pentax gear... using Canon and Nikon with a rather heavy hand where I try to protect the Pentax. My analyst would probably understand that... It's called Stockholm Syndrome. I don't get it. The Stockholm Syndrome (a.k.a. 'battered wife syndrome') is about the victim--through abuse of all kinds--actually begins to identify with, take the side of and defend or protect the abuser. Is Pentax the abuser here for Luiz to protect it...? -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses?
- Original Message - From: Miserere Subject: Are you afraid to use your FA Limited lenses? Hi Everyone, While writing down my list of prime lenses in response to J.C.'s prime kit post, I wondered why it is that I rarely use my Ltd lenses outside the house. I own the 31 and 77 Ltd, but when leaving home I often take with me a VIvitar 28mm f/2 and Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 instead of the Limiteds. I think I'm afraid of losing/breaking/dismantling/dropping-in-river the Limiteds, even though I'm always very careful with my gear. Anybody else suffer from this affliction? Is there any known cure? After you've put a scratch in a good lens, you won't worry about it again. Today I did something I never do, and had my camera sitting on the passenger seat of the truck. I had to stop hard for a moron and pitched the K7 with the 31 attached onto the floor. It still seems to work. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA Limited lenses on film
I already knew the DA40 was pretty good as a full frame lens. The DA70 isn't bad either - tiny bit of vignetting up to f2.8. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_10/07_10_DA/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA Limited lenses on film
Great many thanks. Well, too bad the DA21 is not full frame ;-). Boris Derby Chang wrote: I already knew the DA40 was pretty good as a full frame lens. The DA70 isn't bad either - tiny bit of vignetting up to f2.8. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_10/07_10_DA/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday: Limited lenses
Here are my ebay auctions for this week: 77mm silver: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=017sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=270080286402rd=1rd=1 77mm black: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=017sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=270080294515rd=1rd=1 31mm silver: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=017sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=270080296213rd=1rd=1 Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS Friday: Limited lenses, a digicam and some other items
Sigma EF-500 Super flash. Comes with the manual, the original case, and the stand. Flash has velcro on it but is in EX condition otherwise; I can throw in my Lumiquest bounce kit. $140 plus shipping. Optio WP 5 megapixe digicam in EX condition. Comes with two batteries and two cases. $140 plus shipping. Two Limited lenses in EX condition: 31mm Ltd: $650 plus shipping 77mm Ltd: $600 plus shipping Mirrored Sigma 400mm f/5.6 lens with hood, tripod collar and four rear filters. Lens shows a little wear. $120 plus shipping. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS Friday: two Limited lenses
I am selling both my silver 31mm Ltd. and my silver 77mm Ltd. lenses. Both are in EX condition, barely used. 31mm Ltd: $750 plus shipping 77mm Ltd: $700 plus shipping I have tested the 77mm and it is showing no permanent damage from the condensation. Photos of both lenses and samples from them available upon request. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: $100 rebates on Limited lenses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Reese) wrote: BH is showing $100 rebates on the Limited lenses. Aaagh! I need one good extra job and just maybe I can get that 77mm I need to complete the set. :( -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
