Re: SOTD
At 10:03 AM -0700 on 4/13/99, Jeff Weiss wrote: At 01:39 PM 4/12/99 EDT, you wrote: Linda McCartney. The thread *isn't* the sideperson kept on the payroll because he/she is sleeping with the boss. Not that that would be a bad thread either. Personally, I'll go for Jesse Taylor. All the other names mentioned have (OK, arguably g) focused on quantity over quality. Bob
Re: Western Swing book
The further I've gotten into the Jean Boyd "Southwestern Jazz" book, the more the attitude of the thing has made it unpleasantsometimes it does look simply like a "sticking to my thesis no matter what" problem, which was what I'd called it being charitable, but by the 38th time she praises musicians for wanting not to play "screechy" country fiddle or being "that" sort of musician but playing "real jazz, " you kind of have to get the prejudice! She even routinely and matter-of-factly refers to complex jazz chords as "better chords" than those played in country music.. ..and relegates country to a pure folk status; i.e., western swing can't be country music, because the term "country" has no meaning, she says, if it just becomes some sort of commercially defined category! (Well, we've been down that road on P2 lots of times, and have yet to find a moment in the past century when country wasn't commerciay defined and impacted--or in which jsuciains were in some forgotten holler unaffected by, uh, city music trends at al. In fact, Ms. Boyd is unstoppable; let Johnn Gimble, say, win a Grammy, obviously in a country category by the decscription, and she'll not name the category...and the more obviously country or even country-impacted the musician is (including Bob Wills BTW), the more likely she is to deem said western swinger unoriginal and not quite jazzzy enough...Wills gets credit for demanding his musicians be able to improvise, and not much else--because it was kind of understandable that sophisticated jazz musicians didn't want to hang around long with such a rural kind of guy. Better to work for Spade Cooley! (She actually says this stuff.) Well, I'm finishing it for the oral history interviews with Cliff Bruner, etc...It has its points until the author begins to speak! Barry "The Jazz of the Southwest: An Oral History of Western Swing" by Jean A. Boyd, ..was panned for doing just tha (being negative about country) by some western swing expert (Kevin Coffey? Cary Ginell?) in a recent issue of the Journal O fCountry Music.--don .. slammed to pieces for getting facts wrong, belittling country, etc. etc. Slammed hard, in fact. CK
Re: Covers:Don't Think Twice...(re:Mike Ness)
Didn't Charlie Rich record this also? Tera Maybe. I believe there are well over a hundred recordings of it, everyone from Andy Williams to that only Top Ten version, the reasonably hilarious joke Four Seasons self-parody falsetto version under the name of "the Wonder Who".. As far as more twang versions of "Don't Think Twice" go, they include these folks: John Anderson Bobby Bare Flatt Scruggs Merle Haggard Jerry Reed Marty Robbins Doc Watson Jonny Cash (live at least) ..and Elvis Presley
Re: Covers:Don't Think Twice...(re:Mike Ness)
In message l03130302b33a0a80704a@[209.244.179.124], Barry Mazor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes As far as more twang versions of "Don't Think Twice" go, they include these folks: John Anderson Bobby Bare Flatt Scruggs Merle Haggard * I didn't know Hag had done it, what album's it on? Jerry Reed Marty Robbins Doc Watson Jonny Cash (live at least) * There's a studio version on "Orange Blossom Special" (1965) ..and Elvis Presley I missed the earlier discussion so I don't know if these have already been mentioned but I also have versions by... Steve Young Waylon Jennings Jerry Jeff Walker Ramblin' Jack Elliott -- Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lubbock.demon.co.uk
New addition to P2 family
Yesterday my cat Tammy (named for Ms W) had her first litter. Mother and family (Lyle, Hank, Loretta and Emmylou) are doing fine but have, as yet, not made their musical preferences known. -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: New addition to P2 family
Yesterday my cat Tammy (named for Ms W) had her first litter. Mother and family (Lyle, Hank, Loretta and Emmylou) are doing fine what? no fluffy?
Delightful! Yuk!!!
After listening to a little of WUMB coming in this morning, I'm now convinced Dick P. wears girls underwear. What the heck is the Joan Baez fixation?
Philly area alt.country open mic
Here's your chance to give the Philly-area alt.country scene a well-intentioned kick in the ass. Every other Sunday night at 9pm(next one is April 25th) Upstairs At Nick's (2nd St between Market and Chestnut) has been hosting an alt-country open mic featuring a house band with members of Hogan's Goat, Naked Omaha and the Rolling Hayseeds, plus whoever else jumps up onstage to do some songs. There's tons of cool covers plus whatever originals folks decide to play. I just went to my first one this past Sunday and had a blast. The house band was fun and Naked Omaha played a few of our own too. We're gonna make it a regular thing to show up there and hope a bunch of you Philly-area people will too. Bring your band or just bring yourself. Get onstage or just hang out. There's no cover and the drinks are cheap. Steve Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Twang goes dub
There was some mention of King Tubby in a posting earlier today (South African time). In case you're looking for twang in out of the way places, the latest release on the Blood And Fire label, Dub Like Dirt by King Tubby And Friends, has a track called Dub Is My Occupation which includes a musical reference to Ring Of Fire. Richard
RE: Cereal Wars
i want my maypo -Original Message- From: Jerry Curry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 2:42 PM To: passenger side Subject: Cereal Wars Count Chocula tops FrankenBerry. JC
Re: Delightful! Yuk!!!
hey, you lay off my buddy! BTW - I think it's Maura O'Connell's underwear. Very large ones at that. After listening to a little of WUMB coming in this morning, I'm now convinced Dick P. wears girls underwear. What the heck is the Joan Baez fixation
Re: Delightful! Yuk!!!
Oops! Sorry about the mass-post, I'm still holding a pathetic grudge against Maura for not introducing Nina Gerber from the stage at the Cajun Bluegrass Festival last Labor Day Wknd. Nina had just put together the wonderful "Treasures Left Behind: Remembering Kate Wolf" and nothing was said of its release or her involvement with the CD. Kate hey, you lay off my buddy! BTW - I think it's Maura O'Connell's underwear. Very large ones at that.
(Fwd) LA punk art thing
Forwarded message: From: Self Single-user mode To: P2 Subject: LA punk art thing Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:20:49 -0400 From SonicNet: Punk Vets Gather For Opening Los Angeles punk veterans including Exene Cervenka and John Doe of X, Jane Wiedlin of the Go-Go's and members of the Weirdos and the Screamers showed up for the opening Saturday of an art exhibit chronicling the early L.A. scene. Cervenka helped curate "Forming: The Early Days of L.A. Punk," which runs through June 4 at the Track 16 Gallery in Santa Monica, Calif. The exhibit features posters, fliers, 45s, buttons and other memorabilia from 1976 to 1982. "It's not like this stuff's been buried underground for 20 years," Cervenka said. "A lot of its just s--- we had in our houses." Also at the opening were such latter-day L.A. rockers as L7's Donita Sparks, Hole's Melissa Auf Der Maur, and members of Pennywise and Rancid. *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: Twang goes dub
In message EF6A766217B5D211896900A0C9EA5C2567A7@WBITS1, Richard Haslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes There was some mention of King Tubby in a posting earlier today (South African time). In case you're looking for twang in out of the way places, the latest release on the Blood And Fire label, Dub Like Dirt by King Tubby And Friends, has a track called Dub Is My Occupation which includes a musical reference to Ring Of Fire. Richard This must be an update of "Music Is My Occupation" by Don Drummond. I have it on a 2CD anthology of classic 60's Ska. It's credited to Drummond McCook but the similarity to Cash's version of "Ring Of Fire" is uncanny. -- Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lubbock.demon.co.uk
Re: weird Muzak experiences
Joe wrote:
Seems like the title was "Rain Keeps Fallin'" or something, but it was
one of their followup hits after "Mover". They also had a hit with
"Mendocino" (which I have heard played by an orchestra on Muzak.)
--
Also had a strange experience with Muzak. I was in Austin a couple
of years back just before Xmas (you ever heard the Cornell Hurd
band do an Xmas medley while you're eating enchiladas?) and I was in
the HEB supermarket near the Austin Motel stocking up on anchos. I
became aware that the Muzak sounded familiar, after listening a few
seconds I realised that it was the German hymn tune 'Tannenbaum'
which I believe you associate with Xmas ('O Christmas Tree, O
Christmas tree etc'). Now anyone from over here only thinks of one
association with that tune, it's the air to 'The Red Flag' longtime
anthem of the Labour movement ("The people's flag is deepest red,
it shrouded oft our martyred dead "). I resisted the temptation
to join in the chorus ("So raise the scarlet standard high, Beneath
its shade we'll live and die, Tho' cowards flinch and traitors
sneer, We'll keep the Red Flag flying here") as I figured it might
not go down too well in Texas, even in Austin, but it did strike me
as pretty weird.
PS The words of The Red Flag were:
a) originally written to be sung to the tune of an Irish folk song
'The White Cockade'
b) composed by two men stuck on a train between New Cross and London
Bridge stations
There's not many people know that, (b) anyway.
--
Iain Noble
Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy,
28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK
Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: MIKE NESS
Steve Kirsch sayeth: If we're talking SoCal punk, I always liked the Minutemen about 1000 times better than Social D. (and if you listen very carefully you can hear the sound of Purcell's head exploding right about now...:)), Actually, what you hear is me mailing sympathy cards off to Amy and Steve for their stunning gap in their otherwise usually good taste. Between Heaven and Hell and the self-titled record with the Ring of Fire cover (I think it's a cover, but I don't know whose song it is, any help? g) are two of my fave roots rock records of all time. Dave, who has been counting down the days to the release date of the Mike Ness solo record for a while now *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
RE: Asylum Street Spankers looking for musicians
I know I'm a little late in chiming in here, since I was out of the office here, but I couldn't help but add that this part: Would you please go find a life. ... was pretty hysterical given that, for my money, Jon is the best bass player in this area, and regularly anchors the bottom end for three (occasionally four) top-notch bands. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: (Fwd) new Tom Petty?
Dave, several people were raving about this new album here yesterday, and about a Letterman ? appearance It would be great to see something really good from him. --junior
the last yuk==Re: Delightful! Yuk!!!
In a message dated 4/14/1999 8:14:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm still holding a pathetic grudge against Maura for not introducing Nina Gerber from the stage ummm...make that Mollie O'Brien - too many M's and O's, not enough coffee kicking the ol' noggin' this fine sunny morning! K.
Re: Nic Jones (fwd)
Here's what I posted:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iain Noble)
Date: 11 Mar 99
Originally To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been asked how you can get hold of the recording of Nic Jones
live in concert ('In search of Nic Jones') that I mentioned.
Go to http://www.lesk.demon.co.uk/pages/search.htm
and you'll find the details. Also a lot of interesting stuff and
links about Nic and other revival folk singers.
--
Iain Noble
Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy,
28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK
Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: (Fwd) new Tom Petty?
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, BARNARD wrote: Dave, several people were raving about this new album here yesterday, and about a Letterman ? appearance It would be great to see something really good from him. Saw the Letterman appearance last night (between doing the dishes and getting ready for W**K). Couple nice songs he did, though I couldn't remember any lyrics or melodies for the life of me. They were easy on the ears, and his band was pretty good, too. Letterman said some really nasty stuff last night, even for him. Can't recall any of that, either - whatta difference five hours of sleep makes... -- Geff King * email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you." -- Anon.
Re: Nic Jones
Awhile back there was a Nic Jones discussion. I'm hoping one of you pack rats still have info on the release titled In Search Of or something close to that. If someone can forward it to me offline I'd appreciate it. Gracias Jeff I thought I posted this to the list. I'll check around for the details and repost. -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Cereal Wars
Appearances on: Soul Asylum, Uncle Tupelo, Maria McKee, Counting Crows, Joe Henry, Victoria Williams, John Hiatt, Wallflowers, Roger McGuinn, Pistoleros, Golden Smog . . . -jim Hey Jim, sorry, I was signed off for the night... Pistoleros? I haven't heard of them... Decent material? Morgan
Petty, Bachman...
Hate to disagree with all you folks who like the new Petty, but my initial, all too hasty reaction to it is not positive. I hate the way Petty's vocals are produced (especially "Free Girl Now") and he doesn't really sing until the fifth or sixth song. Too much Dylan, not enough McGuinn. Needed a few more tunes like "Accused of Love". Heartbreakers sound good though. But hey what do I know, I think "Full Moon Fever" is a classic. Been enjoying that Tal Bachman record somebody recommended the other day. Great pop songs. Unlike Petty though, he perhaps oversings on a few songs. Very promising start though. My 2 cents, Slonedog -Original Message- From: Dave Purcell To: passenger side Sent: 4/14/99 8:25 AM Subject: (Fwd) new Tom Petty? Forwarded message: From: Self Single-user mode To: P2 Subject: new Tom Petty? Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:20:11 -0400 The new Tom Petty record got a raving review in the local paper this morning, with the writer saying it's his best work in 20 years. Anyone heard it? Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: Web capo museum
At 05:27 PM 4/13/99 -0700, you wrote: At 04:48 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrote: At 02:18 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrot No lie, it's at http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86505074/capomuseum/index.htm . Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ You certainly weren't, were you... Have to admit, it was pretty darned interesting. Partial to the Shubb myself, but our guitarist just picked up the "Parrot" which has caught my eye. Kind of a mutant Jimmy Buffet thing...g It's a capo, as in guitar thingee? Damn, I was hoping it was about the Mob. Jeff *goofy grin* morgan
Re: SOTD
Jeff said: The thread *isn't* the sideperson kept on the payroll because he/she is sleeping with the boss. Geez Jeff, you're evil, evil, evil. g Morgan
Re: Weller's Prime
Once again Jerry is wrong! This is too easy. Like shooting MPBs on the fluff list. Scritti Politti is another fine, fine band from Leeds. They were formed in the British punk rock movement of the late 70s, but moved into a much more poppier, soulful sound in the 80s. And I really think it worked for them. Cupid Psyche 85 is one of my more favorite lps from that time. I still love to listen to *Perfect Way* and *Pray Like Arethea Franklin*. I'm again late in joining this...but what the hey? Marie, couldn't agree more... Loved that album! "Perfect Way" was a darned close to perfect single... It was a lush, very well produced and well written body of songs... And I believe that this isn't the first time that Scritti Politti has come up on this list. Interesting. g morgan
Pistoleros - was RE: Cereal Wars
Morgan - Not bad if you like the Gin Blossoms. The Pistoleros have one album (that I know of) called _Hang On to Nothing_. Fans of the late Doug Hopkins (GBs guitarist, kicked out, killed himself) - like myself - will enjoy their cover of his "My Guardian Angel". Think of the GBs, but with TexMex flavoring, or Jolene's _In the Gloaming_. All similarly appealing guitar rock. Chris Appearances on: Soul Asylum, Uncle Tupelo, Maria McKee, Counting Crows, Joe Henry, Victoria Williams, John Hiatt, Wallflowers, Roger McGuinn, Pistoleros, Golden Smog . . . -jim Hey Jim, sorry, I was signed off for the night... Pistoleros? I haven't heard of them... Decent material? Morgan
Re: Tonight in Pittsburgh
Celtic roots acoustic showcase from Canada The Paperboys and The Ploughman's Lunch -big folk band with: Megan Williams on Violin, ( from The Fuzzy Comets) Tom Compton on Drums (from Johnny Winter band) Rich Jaques on Guitar ( from Brownie Mary) Dennis Candy on Bodhran ( from Dublin!) plus the uausl suspects. Karl
Cold Mountain
I just finished this book (Civil War novel), which was damn good, and I was looking in my atlas for Cold Mountain and could not find it. This may be a dumb question, but is there actually a Cold Mountain somewhere in North Carolina? Could anyone from that part of the country help me out? Thanks, TWM twang content: Steve Earle mentioned the book a couple times during his recent show === -- Tom Mohr usually here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sometimes here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Weller's Prime
Once again Jerry is wrong! This is too easy. Like shooting MPBs on the fluff list. Scritti Politti is another fine, fine band from Leeds. They were formed in the British punk rock movement of the late 70s, And they had a small part to play in the growing amount of music being produced at the time. Many bands were forming in the late 70's who were unable to get record deals from cautious major labels. Bands such as Desperate Bicycles, Television Personalities started to produced their own singles on their own labels. Scritti Politti's first single took this one stage further. _Skank Bloc Bologna_ had a detailed breakdown of all the production costs involved in producing the record on a photocopied outer sleeve, showing how easy the whole process could be. Of course small independent labels, such as Rough Trade, Small Wonder, Zoo, Pop Aural and Postcard were also instumental in encouraging the explosion of bands in the wake of the whole punk thing. Andy Andy Benham Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.No. 0121 414 4126
Blue Mountain (Chicago show??)
According to the Blue Mountain site and the Roadrunner site they are playing in Nashville on 5/9. That is nowhere near the Hideout here in Chicago. All their other gigs around that time are in the south. Can anybody help clear this one up? Blue Chicago Dave ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
Andy picked: Since you brought it up here are a few alternative suggestion for the perfect single. Pogues Kirsty MacColl - Fairy tale of New York Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love Only Ones - Another girl, another planet Joy Division - Atmosphere All damned good singles. Partial to the first two and most partial to the Buzzcocks! Now that's a single! Caught them, hmm, 89 maybe? in Boston. Great show! They still had it without a doubt! Morgan
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
I'll chime in...cause I should be finishing this darn thesis: Marshall Crenshaw / Cynical Girl Kate. Since you brought it up here are a few alternative suggestion for the perfect single. Pogues Kirsty MacColl - Fairy tale of New York Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love Only Ones - Another girl, another planet Joy Division - Atmosphere
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll chime in...cause I should be finishing this darn thesis: Marshall Crenshaw / Cynical Girl Kate. Amen. I LOVE that damn song. 'September Gurls' by Big Star is nearly as irresistable. -jim
Mandy Barnett and the sidemen thread
Picked up Barnett's album this morning, and aside from having some fun trying to figure out which of the songs I don't know are old and which are new, I notice that the sidemen appearing thereupon include Harold Bradley, Pig Robbins, Buddy Emmons, Hal Rugg and Buddy Harman. Now, these guys are legends for a reason, and they're still active, appearing on a 1999 release (and Robbins and Emmons, at least, have been working steadily, albeit not very frequently, throughout the 90s, appearing on albums by folks like Mark Chesnutt, Patty Loveless, et.al.). So how the hell are you going to come up with a list of top sidemen that doesn't include them, unless you come up with some limiting criteria (like, f'r instance, top sidemen under 60 years old, or touring, or alt.country, whatever that means, or)? For crying out loud, no disrespect to Lloyd Maines or any of the other fine steel players mentioned in Monday's thread, but we're talking about BUDDY EMMONS here, not to mention the others. BTW, Barnett's version of "Falling, Falling, Falling" nicely splits the difference between the original record and Doyle Lawson's 1994 remake (on Never Walk Away), with steel guitar *and* mandolin and banjo. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: the sidemen thread
FOlks counting the Jayhawks, or even the Hawks as sidemen are kinda missing the albeit very fine point. They're backing bands, more than they are sidemen, who are folks like Jon W. mentioned, and Glen Campbell, Leon Russell, Hal Blaine, etc.. folks hired to fill out the sound of a recording session, not friends of the artist who are part of a particular scene, like the Jayhawks. They may put their own particular styles and sound into the recording, and are usually hailed for that by anal musicians on down the line, who can tell every Burton lick and Blaine roll g. They were hired because they were the whip, the trusted for hire musicians who can nail the recording and nail it well in a short amount of time. The Jayhawks probably didn't draw pay from the Joe Henry session, at least not union scale like a true side musician. Maybe they were paid in beer, or good vibes, I don't know, but they didn't walk into the session, hear one pass of the tune and then come up with a part, I would bet. Not that they could'nt, but I'd wager that a Joe Henry session with the Jayhawks was a far different scene than Emmons and Ray Price Matt "hit me with your best shot" Benz
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
In a message dated 4/14/1999 12:55:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this still available? Or available elsewhere? On cd? I loved that song in college. Hi Chris, Sorry, don't know, I'm playing the original vinyl versions purchased when they were released! There were only a few LPs that I replaced with CDs and this wasn't one of them (Astral Weeks and Something/Anything were exceptions). Try doing a search at one of music sites, I'm sure that if they are available, you'll be able to find them. Good luck, Kate (and I'll also throw in the dB's / "Bad Reputation" for good measure)
RE: The perfect single
Reply to: RE: The perfect single One of the things I love about punk/new wave/no wave is that, for all the anarchy and nihilism associated with the musicians playing those types of music, an incredible number of truly great pop songs were created. And I would add to the list: "Starry Eyes" The Records "Back of My Hand" The Jags Andy Benham wrote: Since you brought it up here are a few alternative suggestion for the perfect single. Pogues Kirsty MacColl - Fairy tale of New York Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love Only Ones - Another girl, another planet Joy Division - Atmosphere
Re: Blue Mountain (Chicago show??)
Blue Mountain has rescheduled their Hideout gig for June - I don't recall the exact date, but I'll pass it along shortly. Wasn't able to alert the intrepid Ms. Ray prior to her most recent Chicago calendar. Kelly
Re: Kiss Kiss Hug Hug
In a message dated 4/14/99 1:14:26 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Jon. I'm sorry for taking it so personal. I'll buy you a drink in St. Louis, then you can make fun of my hair and I'll keep very quiet. Why wait til St. Louis? Describe your hair to us so we can start making fun now. What else are friends for? NW
Re: Over here and overheated
The basic problem stems from the punk era. Up until the late 80s at least UK music reporting was dominated by two weekly papers, Melody Maker and New Musical Express (the 'inkies' as they're known as against the 'glossies' or monthly music magazines). Both they, and the UK music industry as a whole, were late in catching on to punk and they have vowed never again to be caught out like that. So their subsequent history has been the endless frenzied search for The Next Big Thing, which means they're open to any record company hype. The apotheosis of this (I wish I could say it was the nadir but there's probably a lot worse to come) was Britpop. If you thought Oasis were crap (and they do have a couple of good tunes) you should see some of the other absolute garbage they've tried to foist on us. They have, however, been found out and their circulations are plummeting, (while those of the glossies are rising) which of course only encourages even more desperate searching for the next 'movement' they can hitch themselves to. There are many reasons why I thank God (or at least would do so in more than a metaphorical sense if I believed in Her) I like country music. Being completely ignored as a result by all the mainstream media in the UK is one of them. Just think how good country might be in the US if it wasn't just so damned *popular*. -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Thanks for the background Iain... Interesting how this industry is so darned transparent across the board? We've got pretty much the same scenario here but with just a couple of different twists to the plot thrown in. Thank god for the grass roots movements... morgan
Re: The perfect single
I Have to chime in with The The's "Uncertain Smile", both the _Soul Mining_ and the 12" versions. Man, I haven't thought of that song in a while. and it was a good one. It also makes me think of The Church's "Unguarded Moment" I think that was a single. and how about the Bluebell's "Cath" I need to go back to my old mix tape of 80's singles to check on more. also, is part of being a "perfect single" is that it is the one good thing from the album and saves you from having to buy the entire record? In that case, I want to mention, the Monroes' "What do all the people know" a good bit of 80's power pop from an (deservably?) obscure band. MichaelBerick
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "You're My Favorite Waste Of Time" is on Marshall Crenshaw's CD "The Nine Volt Years", which is a pretty good collection of outtakes and rarities from the '80's. It's not a crucial buy but it's fun for fans of the man. It's also on MCA's promo-only best-of collection that they released to promote his one-and-only MCA release a few years back. A really nice piece of work, actually, including songs from his various WB releases, "...Waste of Time," his Buddy Holly number from "LaBamba," and a couple of songs from the MCA album. About the only glaring omission is "Maryanne," which was a minor radio hit (around here, anyway) when it came out. It's comparatively rare, though not so rare that I don't see it turn up at least once or twice a year somewhere. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts
Re: Kiss Kiss Hug Hug
In a message dated 4/14/99 1:14:26 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Jon. I'm sorry for taking it so personal. I'll buy you a drink in St. Louis, then you can make fun of my hair and I'll keep very quiet. Why wait til St. Louis? Describe your hair to us so we can start making fun now. What else are friends for? NW Well, I haven't decided what I'm gonna do with it yet. I'll let you know. JP
RE: Cereal Wars
"McJob", say it loud and say it proud! Chris owner of all Doug Coupland's books Oops, sorry Chris, missed this yesterday... MCJOB Morgan "re-read "Life After God" recently and loved it just the same"
Re: Journey of Hope - long
Steve Earle started the show with an acoustic performance very similar to the one he's doing with the Del McCoury band. He sounded wonderful as always. He played a bunch of songs. I can never remember the set lists. He spoke eloquently and passionately about his views on the death penalty. (Though his non-death penalty banter was the same stuff I've been hearing for a few years now. he needs some new material) Steve talked again about his witnessing an execution last fall. Even though I've heard Earle tell this story before, it never fails to move me. well, actually, speaking of his new material, he did play a new song as his last song of the set, after describing in detail his involvement with the executed prisoner and what the execution was like. He was a little choked up, and went on to say this was a song he "hadn't gotten around to recording yet" and that this was the first time he'd played it to a crowd. It was a sparse song, sung from the point of view of a man about to be executed - ripped me up. Let me second Marie's emotion that it is an incredibly moving, wonderful and thought provoking event. P2's own Traci Thomas is doing a lot of work on it, by the way. meshel n'vegas
Douglas Coupland and Shaver
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Morgan Keating wrote: Morgan "re-read "Life After God" recently and loved it just the same" Ah my absolute funnest author to read. Here's my Douglas Coupland order of things: 1.) Generation X 2.) Girlfriend in a Coma 3.) Microserfs 4.) Life After God 5.) Shampoo Planet 6.) never read: (Postcards from the Dead). -Jim twang content: Electric Shaver comes out in two weeks? Correct??
RE: the sidemen thread, singles, ect...
I confess to not being able to follow the thread much, so never mind if I'm off base. Just pickin those nits. As for singles, there is a pretty good book (by David Marsh?) of best singles (rock and pop) and it is a -of course completely subjective listing of great singles and why. A good read, inspires you to go back and listen to say "Ticket To Ride" again... Singles generally conjure up time and place, particulary summer singles, so of course to pick the best means to pull together not just perfect musical moments, but personal moments as well and combine em for a swell experience. "It's So Nice To Be With You" qualifies for me, tho the song ain't so hot. I still can't hear it without hearing the crackling sounds of the 45 we had. But you're all talking punk and new wave singles, ain't ya? Lords of the New Church: Open Your Eyes, 1983. -Original Message- From: Morgan Keating [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:43 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: the sidemen thread Well, I suppose...but I think the general rule to the voting process was that there really weren't any? True, a band doesn't fit the desription of "sidemen", but what the hey? A nod to the godesses...what about sidewomen? Not sure where you're going with the whole pay issue? But, I guess it'll be something for the powers that be to decide. g Either way, 'tis not a big deal, just me 2 cents... morgan At 01:08 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: FOlks counting the Jayhawks, or even the Hawks as sidemen are kinda missing the albeit very fine point. They're backing bands, more than they are sidemen, who are folks like Jon W. mentioned, and Glen Campbell, Leon Russell, Hal Blaine, etc.. folks hired to fill out the sound of a recording session, not friends of the artist who are part of a particular scene, like the Jayhawks. They may put their own particular styles and sound into the recording, and are usually hailed for that by anal musicians on down the line, who can tell every Burton lick and Blaine roll g. They were hired because they were the whip, the trusted for hire musicians who can nail the recording and nail it well in a short amount of time. The Jayhawks probably didn't draw pay from the Joe Henry session, at least not union scale like a true side musician. Maybe they were paid in beer, or good vibes, I don't know, but they didn't walk into the session, hear one pass of the tune and then come up with a part, I would bet. Not that they could'nt, but I'd wager that a Joe Henry session with the Jayhawks was a far different scene than Emmons and Ray Price Matt "hit me with your best shot" Benz
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
"You're My Favorite Waste Of Time" is on Marshall Crenshaw's CD "The Nine Volt Years", its also on his live abum - "my truck is my home" -JF ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: (Fwd) new Tom Petty?
In a message dated 4/14/99 8:23:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The new Tom Petty record got a raving review in the local paper this morning, with the writer saying it's his best work in 20 years. Anyone heard it? Constantly since 4:30 yesterday. I like it -- can't say yet if it's the best in 20 years. A couple of songs are worth the 11.99 price alone. Deb
Clip-Columbia MO Saturday
From today's Riverfront Times- DERBY DAY: The Missouri Derby is this Saturday, April 17, in Columbia, Mo., and should be an amazing day of music: Seven Days, Robbie Fulks, Rubberoom, BR5-49, Guided by Voices and the Flaming Lips. All live, all day long, on the Mizzou campus, south quad. Just look for the big dome, and youÂ’ll find the Derby in the back. Free. This was a late tip; at press time, there was no news on when the music starts. For more info, call 573-882-3780. What are you waiting for? IÂ’ll see you there. (RR)
Re: Douglas Coupland and Shaver
At 03:22 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Morgan Keating wrote: Morgan "re-read "Life After God" recently and loved it just the same" Ah my absolute funnest author to read. Here's my Douglas Coupland order of things: 1.) Generation X 2.) Girlfriend in a Coma 3.) Microserfs 4.) Life After God 5.) Shampoo Planet 6.) never read: (Postcards from the Dead). -Jim He is great fun, 'eh? Haven't read Postcards either nor Girlfriend or Microserfs for that matter... Hmmm, looks like I've got a few more titles to tag onto the list... Gen X is pretty damned great! morgan twang content: Electric Shaver comes out in two weeks? Correct?? you know, i think so, but my bloody awful memory ain't what she used to be...
(Re: MIKE NESS)
a legend in his own hoops mind wrote; Between Heaven and Hell and the self-titled record with the Ring of Fire cover (I think it's a cover, but I don't know whose song it is, any help? g) I saw that, Purcell. Dylan, Jason Dingleberg, Mike Ness..don't know 'em, not worried. If they're not from Clinch Mountain, they're just pretenders...g cheers, dan stanley
Question: Lap Steel by Analogy
Anyone out there want to take a run at completeing the following statement: fill in the blank is to the lap steel what Mississippi John Hurt is to fingerstyle guitar What little I know about playing fingerstyle guitar I learned from listening to Mississippi John Hurt's relatively simple, elegant work. Who should I be listening to to hear lap steel lovingly stripped to the bare essentials and well played. Anon...TG
RE: cereal wars/The Clash
Barry asks: And what about Naomi? Oh oh, obscure Carol Burnett references? Is that where we're going next? Lord help us... Stuart Munro
Re: Question: Lap Steel by Analogy
In a message dated 4/14/99 7:55:47 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone out there want to take a run at completeing the following statement: fill in the blank is to the lap steel what Mississippi John Hurt is to fingerstyle guitar Jamie Swedberg form the Blockheaters. Mitch Matthews Gravel Train/Sunken Road
Re: No controversy here
I just pulled out my Mojo from 10/98 and Lennon is #4. I assume that this is the issue they're talking about; why would they do the same thing twice w/in 6 months? The top 10 are as follows: 10. Otis Redding 9. Sam Cooke 8. Stevie Wonder 7. Elvis 6. Marvin Gaye 5. Billie Holiday 4. John Lennon 3. Ray Charles 2. Frank 1. Aretha If Mojo has repeated themselves then consider my shoe in my mouth. This list also, in no way relects my own top ten. I'm just reporting the facts. J "William F. Silvers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 4/14/99 3:44 PM Anybody got the list from MOJO to share? The opinions herein are in no way...g John Lennon Voted The Greatest Pop Singer Ever LONDON (Reuters) - Former Beatle John Lennon Wednesday beat out Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra to top a list of the world's greatest ever pop singers published Wednesday.
Re: Mandy Barnett and the sidemen thread
Mandy Barnett is scheduled to be on Letterman tonight (thursday). Set those VCRs!
Re: Cool stuff on TV.....
Dan posted a bunch of upcoming TV stuff, but omitted Mandy Barnett's appearance on Letterman tonight (Wednesday). SM
gratitude
Many heartfelt thanks to all who responded to my lament over living in a twangless universe in NYC. I really appreciate the warmth of your empathy and the value of your practical suggestions. After reading my email, I felt immediately more confident in my identity, and I had a long overdue little chat with my record collection. I told Loretta and Tammy they no longer needed to hide out in a vinyl getto behind Pavement and the Velvet Underground. The women were quite pleased, if a little disgruntled at how long I had taken to recognize their proper place in the world. This little morale boost came a perfect time too, as I had just been saddened by news in the Bloodshot catalog that the Neko Case album won't be available until the fall. Those measley seven inches just aren't tiding me over adequately. To the New Yorkers who wrote, I will greatly look forward to meeting some of you at the Kelly Willis show. --Micah _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Question: Lap Steel by Analogy
Blah blah fill in the blank is to the lap steel what Mississippi John Hurt is to fingerstyle guitar What little I know about playing fingerstyle guitar I learned from listening to Mississippi John Hurt's relatively simple, elegant work. Who should I be listening to to hear lap steel lovingly stripped to the bare essentials and well played. Well, I'd say Jerry Byrd except he's about as far from Mississippi John Hurt's style as you can get and still be an American. Suggested listening for lap steel guitarists: Jerry Byrd - the master of tone and touch, although maybe not the master of taste. Some of his recordings are pretty heavy on the schmaltz. David Lindley - is playing mostly acoustic Weissenborn guitars now. His lap steel work with Jackson Browne defined the use of lap steel in rock. Any of his solo CDs with Hani Naser or Wally Ingram on percussion gives you a good idea of what he's doing now and what's possible (see http://www.davidlindley.com for ordering). Jerry Douglas - although known more for his Dobro playing, he does some fine lap steel work on his latest CD "Restless on the Farm" Two excellent early examples of lap steel are Leon McAuliffe (with Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys) and Don Helms (with Hank Williams and the Drifting Cowboys). More information available on my web site. ___ Brad's Page of Steel: http://www.well.com/user/wellvis/steel.html A web site devoted to acoustic and electric lap steel guitars
RE: the sidemen thread, singles, ect...
At 03:36 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: I confess to not being able to follow the thread much, so never mind if I'm off base. Just pickin those nits. Ah, not a problem... As for singles, there is a pretty good book (by David Marsh?) of best singles (rock and pop) and it is a -of course completely subjective listing of great singles and why. A good read, inspires you to go back and listen to say "Ticket To Ride" again... That sounds like a good one... I like Marsh to boot for the most part... 'Ceptin maybe for "Glory Days"... He was officially on the Springsteen payroll aside from the book commision, yes? No slam on Bruce though...love him. Singles generally conjure up time and place, particulary summer singles, so of course to pick the best means to pull together not just perfect musical moments, but personal moments as well and combine em for a swell experience. "It's So Nice To Be With You" qualifies for me, tho the song ain't so hot. I still can't hear it without hearing the crackling sounds of the 45 we had. But you're all talking punk and new wave singles, ain't ya? Lords of the New Church: Open Your Eyes, 1983. No, you're right on the money on that one... Please don't kill me folks, but going with what you were saying Matt, I vividly recall hearing "Stone(d) in Love" by Journey one particular summer. Great summer and I guess I just associate it in a "Wonder Years" type reverie... I remember destroying my Apple 45 of "Hey Jude" backed by "Revolution" (if I recall) from far too many plays... Another song I associate with summer...or Steve Earle's "I Feel Alright", it was all over a Boston station at the time and I picked up the record the night before my wife delivered...The song just brings me back... New wave single: Talk Talk-It's My Life morgan -Original Message- From:Morgan Keating [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:43 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: the sidemen thread Well, I suppose...but I think the general rule to the voting process was that there really weren't any? True, a band doesn't fit the desription of "sidemen", but what the hey? A nod to the godesses...what about sidewomen? Not sure where you're going with the whole pay issue? But, I guess it'll be something for the powers that be to decide. g Either way, 'tis not a big deal, just me 2 cents... morgan At 01:08 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: FOlks counting the Jayhawks, or even the Hawks as sidemen are kinda missing the albeit very fine point. They're backing bands, more than they are sidemen, who are folks like Jon W. mentioned, and Glen Campbell, Leon Russell, Hal Blaine, etc.. folks hired to fill out the sound of a recording session, not friends of the artist who are part of a particular scene, like the Jayhawks. They may put their own particular styles and sound into the recording, and are usually hailed for that by anal musicians on down the line, who can tell every Burton lick and Blaine roll g. They were hired because they were the whip, the trusted for hire musicians who can nail the recording and nail it well in a short amount of time. The Jayhawks probably didn't draw pay from the Joe Henry session, at least not union scale like a true side musician. Maybe they were paid in beer, or good vibes, I don't know, but they didn't walk into the session, hear one pass of the tune and then come up with a part, I would bet. Not that they could'nt, but I'd wager that a Joe Henry session with the Jayhawks was a far different scene than Emmons and Ray Price Matt "hit me with your best shot" Benz
Re: No controversy here
Actually, don't we all know Elvis is the man? As much as I love Lennon, it's not him alone, but he and McCartney together that made it happen. Yep... Besides, Aretha could kick all their punk asses at once. Indeed! R-E-S-P-E-C-T baby! morgan
Re: Petty, Bachman...
In a message dated 4/14/99 10:55:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hate the way Petty's vocals are produced (especially "Free Girl Now") and he doesn't really sing until the fifth or sixth song. This is my least favorite song on the CD and someone said this was the single. Love "lonesome sundown" and "echo" and "billy the kid" today (changes daily) Deb#s
RE: Question: Lap Steel by Analogy
Assuming that lap steel = non-pedal steel (as opposed to literally and exclusively a little bitty guitar that sits face up on your lap), Leon McAuliffe and Don Helms are pretty obvious choices for guys who mostly played pretty simple stuff that's nevertheless right on the money, and I'd add Kayton Roberts, who worked with Hank Snow for many years, and Little Roy Wiggins, Eddy Arnold's steel player, both of whom are also pretty minimalist. Of these, I believe only Wiggins played an actual lap steel, and I'm not even sure about him g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: weird Muzak experiences
We have a pal named Beth Neilson Chapman who has some really great albums out on WBs and for some reason every single time I go to the grocery store here in Austin I hear Beth on the dang Muzak. It never fails. It is a very odd experience to be buying Shiner Premium with a buddy's voice wafting out into the supermarket aisles. Sadly, though, Muzak doesn't pay anything resembling a decent performance royalty rate. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Come And Go, Molly Snow (was:RE: Devil's Dream (WAS: Cold Mountain))
Kelly's post reminded me to mention my favorite novel about country-type music, specifically bluegrass. Written by Mary Ann Taylor-Hall, Come And Go, Molly Snow is a story about a young woman fiddler struggling to reconcile herself to the accidental death of her daughter; it's got some of the best writing about the experience of playing bluegrass I've ever read. I believe it's out in paperback now... Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Bloodshot Springtime 411 (long)
Hello to everyone! A few bits of news from the basement home of Bloodshot Records -- ** Our second release from the Bloodshot Revival/Soundies Series: Spade Cooley "Shame on You" featuring vocals by Tex Williams previously unreleased transcription recordings from the 40's OUT TUESDAY APRIL 20th ** and: Alejandro Escovedo "Bourbonitis Blues" brand-new songs and favorite covers including the Gun Club's "Sex Beat" VU's "Pale Blue Eyes" Jimmie Rodgers' "California Blues" OUT TUESDAY APRIL 20th Andre Williams The Sadies "Red Dirt" RB dirtybird gets back to his country roots with SOUL, baby! My favorite record in a coon's age! OUT TUESDAY MAY 18th Rex Hobart The Misery Boys "Forever Always Ends" produced by Lou Whitney debut CD from KCMO's wiseacre tearjerking troubadours OUT TUESDAY JUNE 22nd The Meat Purveyors title TBA sophomore release from Austin's bluegrass upstarts OUT TUESDAY JULY 6th Rico Bell The Snakehandlers "Dark Side of the Mersey" sophomore CW release from the silver-haired chicken-legged gigolo and Mekon's accordianist OUT TUESDAY JULY 22 * Third release in the Bloodshot Revival/Soundies Series coming in July: HANK THOMPSON title TBA more unreleased transcription recordings possibly a double-CD collection catch Hank Thompson on tour this summer (I'm serious, folks) he hits Schuba's in Chicago July 17th * COMING IN AUGUST: - sophomore releases from TRAILER BRIDE and SPLIT LIP RAYFIELD COMING IN SEPTEMBER: NEKO CASE HER BOYFRIENDS "Furnace Room Lullaby" the long-awaited follow-up CD to last year's critically-hailed "The Virginian" will be worth the wait or I'll eat my stinky hat. COMING THIS FALL, release dates TBA: Cowboy Sally is back! SALLY TIMMS full-length CW CD title TBA THE SADIES title TBA follow-up to last year's surfabilly oddity "Precious Moments" recorded with Steve Albini guest vocals from Freakwater's Cathy Irwin, and Kelly Hogan THE KNITTERS Redux Tribute title TBA all-star song-by-song celebration of the seminal "Poor Little Critter in the Road" album performed by so many fancy-pants insurgent country all-stars that I can't even mention *any* right now, for fear of jinxing the whole thing -- but I'll spill soon... COMING JANUARY 2000: KELLY HOGAN THE PINE VALLEY COSMONAUTS title TBA country-soul-politan collaboration CD more details to follow COMING SPRING/SUMMER 2000: -- Bloodshot Records 5th Anniversary Insurgent Country Compilation Vol. 4 double CD, all-new songs from the cream of the insurgent country crop and that's all for now. Phew! -- Let me know if y'all have any questions -- I know *I* do! Your press mule -- Hogan 773-248-8709
RE: weird Muzak experiences
We have a pal named Beth Neilson Chapman who has some really great albums out on WBs and for some reason every single time I go to the grocery store here in Austin I hear Beth on the dang Muzak. Heh, I hear one or another of her songs (though not her records) about every time I get in the car and turn on the radio g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Western Swing book
Barry Mazor wrote: The further I've gotten into the Jean Boyd "Southwestern Jazz" book, the more the attitude of the thing has made it unpleasantsometimes it does look simply like a "sticking to my thesis no matter what" problem, which was what I'd called it being charitable, but by the 38th time she praises musicians for wanting not to play "screechy" country fiddle or being "that" sort of musician but playing "real jazz, " you kind of have to get the prejudice! My own limited experience in talking to Will's sidemen is that he didn't consider what he was doing to be purely either jazz or country, but a new hybrid form derived from all kinds of influences. Wills was certainly not foolish enough to think that he was doing exactly the same thing that Basie was doing, or Roy Acuff either. However, I think he would take offense at the notion that there was anything to be ashamed of in the country roots of his music. Wills was very country, almost a primitive in the sense that he was unable to improvise a fiddle solo (he had to stick to the melody) and that he was unable to grasp the concept of equal numbers of bars in blues songs. He hired Jesse Ashlock to play improvised solos for him and he let the band figure out where he hell he was going next, bars be damned. (You have heard black blues guys do this; they'll jump from the 1 chord to the 4 chord real "early", especially if they are playing solo, rather than just sit there on the 1 being boring. It was characteristic of 20's and 30s blues especially, I believe because the form had not been cemented yet) However, his major influences were Bessie Smith (he sang just like her) and Emmit Miller, the blackface pop musician and writer. In the 40's he had a gigantic big swing band with full horns as well as stringed instruments and he sounds like a big jazz dance band to me. How the hell anybody could have gone to Spade Cooley to be "less country" is beyond me. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Mandy Barnett and the sidemen thread
Mandy Barnett is scheduled to be on Letterman tonight (thursday). Set those VCRs! She's also going to be on the Opry this weekend. Stick
Re: Big Star
Robin wrote: I forgot about Tommy Hoehn. Back in the late 70's I was managing a Sam Goody's in New York City, and two guys from another Memphis pop band, the Scruffs, were working there. They turned me onto Hoehn and a record he put out at the time, which I remember as being pretty good. As I recall, it was done at Ardent, home of Big Star (and Jim Dickson, producer extraordinaire). Losing You to Sleep, from 1978. Great pop album, and one I wish I still owned. Chilton plays on it too. Allen Baekeland *** Boot Heel Drag can be heard on CJSW 90.9 FM , Calgary,AB Tuesdays at 6:30 PM MST and on realaudio at www.cjsw.com.
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
"Go Back" - Crabby Appleton
Re: weird Muzak experiences
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: She and Kimmie co-wrote "Shine All Your Light" which was sung by Amy Grant on the "Touched By An Angel" soundtrack CD and which is now certified double platinum. TV and movie soundtracks are a great thing for songwriters right now, as that RIAA info showed. "Touched By An Angel" is apparently a rilly hot TV show right now and the soundtrack CD just keeps bouncing around in the charts, never going away. Many many congratulations Joe. By the way, you all have a spare $100 you could lend me? You know, with taxes and all, I'm a bit short... NP: The Byrds - Dr. Byrds Mr Hyde Jerry
Re: Lessons Learned
Jerry Curry wrote: Midwesterners are smart-asses and Texans are hot-blooded. No wonder there was a Civil War. g Remember who won though. Signed, A FORMER midwesterner..even bigger G! Jerry Speaking of which, I just read a great bio of Sam Houston which I think non-Texans would enjoy if you like American History atall. It is called Sword of San Jacinto by Marshall De Bruhl, who apparently is a long-standing senior editor in New York publishing circles. Because Sam Houston's story is really more the story of the Jacksonian era and the Western push, as well as all of the pre-war North-South issues, than it is of Texas, ya'll would probably like it. Twang Content: 1)"Yellow Rose of Texas" was according to legend a beautiful African-American woman who kept Santa Ana occupied while the Texian Army attacked his camp during siesta. 2)My great-great-great Grandfather was Sam Houston's chief of staff, later founded the Austin American Statesman, where I was the Rock Music Editor at one time. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
Reply to: Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime) That was a great record. They had another awesome song called "Lucy." Then Michael Fennelly, the guitar player and singer, went and put out a pretty lame solo album. Any idea what happened to him? JKellySC1 wrote: "Go Back" - Crabby Appleton
Re: (Re: MIKE NESS)
O Purcell my Purcell wrote: Between Heaven and Hell and the self-titled record with the Ring of Fire cover (I think it's a cover, but I don't know whose song it is, any help? g) Everyone knows it was Country Joe the Fish. Sheesh! Newbies! g ~Greg ___ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/
Journey of Hope
Thanks Marie, for the post. I've been involved with this event and meeting these murder victims' families have been a very moving experience. Sister Helen Prjean rocks Listening to her and Steve trade stories was the hightlight of the event for me. Unfortunately the tour does NOT involve the other artists. It's a speaking tour across Tennessee with the murder victims' families. Steve will be performing at some of the speaking engagements. Send me a private email for more info.-t2 Grassroots Media 1815 Division St. Ste. 202 Nashville, TN 37203 (615) 340-9596
Re: weird Muzak experiences
Jerry Curry wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: She and Kimmie co-wrote "Shine All Your Light" which was sung by Amy Grant on the "Touched By An Angel" soundtrack CD and which is now certified double platinum. Many many congratulations Joe. By the way, you all have a spare $100 you could lend me? You know, with taxes and all, I'm a bit short... Kimmie works her butt off songwriting and every so often she rings the bell with one. I would gladly lend you $100 except that I just sent every penny I had to the IRS, plus a IOU which I hope they will accept in good humour. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune? And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha? Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to non-players. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
New Romantics?
Since we somehow have looped out into early80s land the past couple days, I have a terminology question for the P2 Braintrust, re: a story I'm editing: Who and what were the British "New Romantics" (which I've sometimes seen spelled "Neuromantics")? I'm sort of vague on whether that means, say, Siouxsie and the Banshees, or Spandau Ballet. And I'm specifically wondering whether Japan (aka David Sylvian and friends) woulda counted as New Romantics, and if not what they did count on? I was a bit too young at the time - or perhaps just too far from any hip geographic locations - to keep track. Carl W.
Re: New Romantics?
... um, I meant what did Japan count *as*, not on. I assume, like all of us, they counted on the kindness of strangers. Carl W.
Re: New Romantics?
http://home.sol.no/~knhongro/Geir/pop/History.htm has an interesting take on this: New Romantics Picture: Thompson TwinsIf you don't like synths you may as well skip this whole chapter, because the UK early 80s New Romantics craze definitely was about synths - synths, music video and image. But New Romantics also was about great melodic pop songs, and groups such as Spandau Ballet, Simple Minds, ABC, Culture Club, Japan, Thompson Twins(picture right) and even teenyboppers Duran Duran made some songs worth checking out. Even more interesting (again if you don't hate synths) were the plain synthpop groups. Human League made one of the best albums ever with "Dare", Depeche Mode and Yazoo followed to make Daniel Miller, the man behind indie label Mute, rich. Orchestral Manouvers In The Dark, Visage, Soft Cell, Ultravox and Human League-spinoffs Heaven 17 also made some great pop records. Vince Clarke, once a member of Depeche Mode and then Yazoo, later formed Erasure, a band that still exists and has had more success than Yazoo. There even was an American synthpop band, the slightly more musically eccentric Devo. After some time a more musically sophisticated, and not that entirely synth based, sort of synthpop was developing. Artists such as Talk Talk, Tears For Fears and Howard Jones represented this new trend. And there's this from http://www2.osk.3web.ne.jp/~buggle/lexicon.html#New Romantics New Romantics started in the Club scene and it popped out by combing electronic pop dance beat and showy fashion stemming glam rock via the visual media of MTV. It was alternatively called "Futurist" and there was a Futurist chart in Indies. Representative bands are Duran Duran, Kajagoogoo (such a silly name), Visage, the second period Ultravox, the early Talk Talk, Spandau Ballet. The only ones with the look above a certain level can be called as true New Romantics. -B "flock of haircuts" B-
Re: Mike and Dan in Chicago
In a message dated 4/14/99 11:56:19 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Appearing at Chicago's best damn little bar (the Hideout), Mike Ireland and Dan Mesh will be at the Honky Tonk Living Room tomorrow (Thursday) with Deanna Varagona doing openers, 9:00 start, $6 cover, 1354 W. Wabansia, yowsah! I'm there! Linda
RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Ok, I have this great old Gibson EBO short-scale bass that I am very comfortable with, played for years, except the dang thing doesn't tune very well and it has that short-scale kind of "thump" sound instead of a long sustain and high end like a P-Bass. Has anybody ever successfully fixed a short scale Gibson so it will tune? Not that I know of. I played an EB3 for about 5 years and gave up. And secondly, if I do decide to get a P-Bass or copy thereof, which ones are good and which ones suck? Mexican P-Basses any good? Peavey? Yamaha? The Mexican Precisions are, IMO, as good as or better than anyone else's knockoffs at that price range ($300 or less); the biggest gotcha I've heard about with them is that the pickups and routing for them are slightly different than the old Ps and the new American Standards and up, so that you might have a problem putting in aftermarket replacements (it's apparently not impossible, but it might be more complicated than you would want to DIY). Still, I know a bunch of folks who play them, and have yet to hear of any problems. Personally, I love my '96 American Standard, which when I bought it new ran around $650. Quality workmanship, you can go string-thru-body, and most germane to the tuning issue, and most importantly in terms of your EB0 complaint, it has a graphite reinforcement in the neck that makes it rilly solid. The only time I have to retune the durn thing is if someone (like, for instance, me) bumps into one of the tuning machines; I have taken it from a frigid, dry, air-conditioned room out into 90+ temps w/ high humidity without having to retune, and have gone literally weeks at a time without its going out. Anyhow, I'm not one of those "gotta be a Fender" types, especially once you get more exotic than a Precision, but for a basic bass, the P is awfully hard to beat, and you really can spend about as little - or as much - as you want. Might as well do this off-list, I'm sure this is ultra boring to non-players. Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Blah blah Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. I daresay more of us have tasted Quisp than played bass. Otherwise an excellent post, Jon.
sachja productions
Curious, anyone ever hear of sachja productions? Sachja Productions Attn: Reviewing Dept. P.O. Box 701231 Dallas, Texas 75370 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Supposed label/production co. who sent me unsolicited email "looking for artists" then got pissed when I asked them to fwd info about their company. They claim to be in Dallas. Mike Hayshttp://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.netFor the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Bass Content
Now boys.Jon Joe, everyone knows that Leo Fender only became better at crafting guitars over time, thus.go and check out the GL's. Actually, my main bass is a mid-80's GL 5-string. It's particularly rugged and keeps true to tune as well. I stand behind GL's but you will definitely pay more for one of them, than saya Mexi std. Comparing a GL to an American Std., the prices are neck neck. I also play Hohners and although they are a lowend instrument manufacturer, I've never had a problem with either my fretless or my acoustic. OB TWang: The Mandy Barnett CD IS terrific, I bought it during my lunch hour along with.(to tie to another current thread) _The Best of Blancmange_. Also, Best of the Raspberries and Clapton's 451 Ocean Blvd. JC
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Jon Weisberger wrote: Anyhow, I'm not one of those "gotta be a Fender" types, especially once you get more exotic than a Precision, but for a basic bass, the P is awfully hard to beat, and you really can spend about as little - or as much - as you want. Thanks, Jon, sounds real to me. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
RE: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Jon on the relevance or not of equipment threads.. Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. True. We've had Tele threads and amp threads that went on for days. Or, you could just take it to the "fluff" list. On the fluff list, Joe, we could talk basses and Texas history for days with complete impunity g And as you probably know, SGs won't stay in tune worth a damn either. Must be a cursed body shape or something g. Those Danelectro-style basses always sound nice to me, although they obviously don't have the all-purpose overall quality of a P-bass. --junior
Re: New Romantics?
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 14-Apr-99 New Romantics? by [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I'm specifically wondering whether Japan (aka David Sylvian and friends) woulda counted as New Romantics, and if not what they did count on? Last month's Mojo had a very nice retrospective of David Sylvain's work where the author (Sylvie Simmonds) insinuates that though Japan was heavily influential to Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, etc, the band sought to distance themselves from the New Romantic movement (I guess like Wilco and No Depression). I think it would be fair to say that any British band moderately influenced by Roxy Music in the early 80s could be lumped in with the New Romantics, though none of those bands ever did much for me (unlike Roxy). Carl Z.
Re: sachja productions
Mike Hays wrote: Curious, anyone ever hear of sachja productions? Sachja Productions Attn: Reviewing Dept. P.O. Box 701231 Dallas, Texas 75370 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Supposed label/production co. who sent me unsolicited email "looking for artists" then got pissed when I asked them to fwd info about their company. They claim to be in Dallas. Never heard of them, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. However, getting pissed when asked for info doesn't sound very good, now, does it? -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Brad Bechtel wrote: Blah blah Yeah, right, it's not of general interest, like vintage cereals g. I daresay more of us have tasted Quisp than played bass. Otherwise an excellent post, Jon. I doubt it g. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
BARNARD wrote: And as you probably know, SGs won't stay in tune worth a damn either. Must be a cursed body shape or something g. I think it has to do with the EBO necks being not very precisely made. If I'm in tune in open E, then almost nothing else is. Those Danelectro-style basses always sound nice to me, although they obviously don't have the all-purpose overall quality of a P-bass. I played one of those today and I liked it pretty good, but it still doesn't have that long, unctuous sustain that I need for KRhodes new stuff. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
Out of curiousity: Does anyone play Alembic (sp?) basses anymore? Or Steinbergers? I always liked Steinberger's guitars and basses because they stayed in tune. Carl Z.
Re: Warning: Bass Guitar question!
I played one of those today and I liked it pretty good, but it still doesn't have that long, unctuous sustain that I need for KRhodes new stuff. Yeah, sustain is not what the Danelectro / Jerry Jones style ones are about, for sure. Seems like the P-bass is pretty irrefutable in these matters... --junior
Re: Over here and overheated
ON the other hand, you've got some WAY better glossies going these days! There's just no equivalent of MOJO in the U Sof A...for a magazine willing to look and listen at big tent pop music. Profiles of Frank Sinatra and Gram Parsons and say, the Sex Pistols in the same magazine, uncondescendingly--and talking about how they've mattered and still do. JEESH; it's worth what we've got to pay fpor it over here. And there are I think things to like about the likes of VOX and SELECT, etc...from at least a big tent rock and roll perspective! And it will be no surprise to Iain, Stevie or others in the slightly far-flunbg British contingent that there's not all that much really provocative, good country reporting easy to find in print ANYwhere--especially when it walks up to rock and rolls doorstep and complicates matters!. They have, however, been found out and their circulations are plummeting, (while those of the glossies are rising Iain Noble
Re: Kiss Kiss Hug Hug
Now, Mr. Weiss. Jon knows, and a good number of us know, excatly what Mr. Riedie's hair looks like. It was a Twangfest bonus last time around. When you show up in St. Louis, as we all know you will, of course, you will get to see Riedie's hair too. Comes with the admission. Barry Why wait til St. Louis? Describe your hair to us so we can start making fun now. What else are friends for? NW
Re: Question: Lap Steel by Analogy
Sol Hoopii, Master of the Hawaiian Guitar Vol. 1 and others (my copy is Rounder 1024), is certainly a primer on this kind of instrument. He used a couple of different tunings on this effort recorded between 1926 and 1930, which was probably a simpler time. In further lap steel news, and since we have not had any tech talk recently - I am currently trying out a Fender Twin with my National 6 string. I was running out of oomph with the old Supro while playing in my son's band Carter Monrose in their electric sets, hence the search for more raw power. So far, I am not satisfied with the reverb or the bass string reproduction. There are a boatload of knobs and dials on this thing so I may just not be twirling them the right way. I think a Peavey may be the answer. William W Western
