Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 at 02:11:42, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip Headache? :-) Actually my plan of skipping the beer and immediately starting with tequila, vodka, sparkling wine and finally Bacardi worked very well, no headache at all. Usually it's the beer in the mix that gets me. ;-) Just didn't get much sleep as I only got to bed at 8 in the morning. ... sounds like something to kill you (8-)# BTW, you can add the Retry and Abandon items .. sounds like something to consider with your drink cocktails (8-)# in the FILE ERROR window to the list of items that I think use the App Win Item colours rather than the Loose Item ones... Ok, fixed that, too. Will send test version privately. Now I think I've really have earned myself the time to watch a nice Yes, Minister episode. Now that (and the follow-up Yes Prime Minister) is brilliant. One of the reasons it is so good is that it is heavily based on truth. OK no minister is -that- compliant and manipulatable (urmm that may be an invented word) but the civil servants are -certainly- very like Humphrey. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
cut If available at the QL metting in Eindhoven (March?),I will buy it, together with QWORD( Dutch and French versions). Happy New Year to all of you. Why wait?? I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have to rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)? They might have sold out you never know !! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
on. Needless to say I have never heard from the customer since and haven't seen him at workshops in recent years either. Can you email us traders privately so that we can be pre-warned should he reappear. Nope. He threatened to sue me once, I nearly thumped him once (and it takes one hell of a lot to make me get even close to thumping anyone). If I ever see him again you'll know from the policemen dragging me away. I don't even want to think about it, other than to say I haven't seen or heard from him for a few years so I don't think he's around. If I do see him, I'll let you know. P.S. I've just read this email a second time and wonder why I'm still a QLer after all that? I have only had one really bad QL customer (and cheque) in all my year's of trading. Non-payment was rarely an issue even in those days. One or two cheques did bounce (almost always rectified later). More of a problem was slow payers (educational establishments etc) but nothing major. P.P.S. Attempting to challenge Nasta for longest emails No chance OK, I admit defeat! P.P.P.S. Having an insomniac night!!! Ben went to bed at 5am he said. OK, admit defeat again. But he is much younger than me ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Malcolm Cadman Anyone else tried the QDT Demo supplied with QL Today yet ? I haven't been able to read the disk supplied with Toady. :-( Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QPC with flopy disk F: ?
Sorry if this is an FAQ but it's quicker to ask here than search for a reference that may not be there ;-) I would like to associate QPC's flp1_ with a USB floppy. My notebook only very rarely has an A: drive which I have to swap with the CD drive. Any chance ? Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC with flopy disk F: ?
Hi Jon, the first USB floppy (or USB stick with floppy functionality/bootability) becomes drive A: if available, otherwiese drive B: That's how it worked here on several laptops. Cheers Jochen Dent wrote: Sorry if this is an FAQ but it's quicker to ask here than search for a reference that may not be there ;-) I would like to associate QPC's flp1_ with a USB floppy. My notebook only very rarely has an A: drive which I have to swap with the CD drive. Any chance ? Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC with flopy disk F: ?
Wow that was quick :-) - Original Message - From: SMSQ - Jochen Merz Hi Jon, the first USB floppy (or USB stick with floppy functionality/bootability) becomes drive A: if available, otherwiese drive B: That's how it worked here on several laptops. Unfortuately not here; maybe a win98 feature ;-) Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 CD player
Not too important, but if you do happen to find out please let me know, it's the kind of thing that will bug me as I can't sort it out due to having only 1 drive. Dilwyn - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2 CD player On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 17:07:20 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather than pester a very busy Marcel with a trivial problem, does anyone know if the QPC2 CD Player could either play 2 separate CDs from 2 separate drives at the same time, or a CD and and image on hard disk somewhere? Dilwyn - I have 2 CD drives - just can't find Marcel's CD Player... I think though that the CD commands in QPC2 can only access the first CD drive it comes to - not even an image on the hard disk. A lad at work is looking at setting up a mobile disco based on a PC (play one CD while getting the other ready cued or even 'mixing' two tracks, he even wants to record voice links on one CD and play the music with voice-overs). It's just a thought in case I can impress him with a simple SBASIC program in the new year! I don't have 2 drives on my PC to try this out, and don't know how to create an image on hard disk unless it's as simple as copying all .cda audio files to a folder on hard disk. Given my background in broadcasting some years ago, it's a little project which got my interest even if I don't want to get too involved!!! He's using MP3 tracks and two copies of windows explorer or windows media player to cue and play the tracks, don't know how he mixes things so that only the correct audio comes from the correct drive while he cues the other tracks (assuming of course he bothers to listen to cue them, or prehear or PFL or whatever headphone cueing was called). New year madness...don't worry, ignore me, I'll (probably) go away. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues
Malcolm Cadman wrote Yes, Quick Starts are good ... and an 'art' in themselves to write. I wonder how many users on this list are now happily using Launchpad ? -- Malcolm Cadman Not many. Total sales is easily still in 2 figures. A lot of people said they liked the idea but were waiting for QDT, which makes sense as QDT will be THE product to have for those users with leading edge QL products and my guess is Launchpad will find its own little niche on lesser systems as people realise No GD2? No QDT Hvaing used both, Malcolm, how do you see this going? I guess that like many things they both have their good points while being very different and distinct products. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] tsunami (OT)
After hearing all about the natural disasters affecting the populations of some Asian countries, it was not nice to realise I have parts made by Tsunami on this PC. Without meaning to make light in any way of the awful situation those people find themselves in, it makes me wonder why anyone chose such a name for a computer company? Anyone know if it is connected - apparently the natural disaster term means Harbour (tsu) and Waves (name) in Japanese and of course is female gender like names of hurricanes and other natural disasters! Tut! Tut! Dilwyn, you old misogynist. Japanese nouns do not have a gender! The little oxford dictionary I looked up in had an 'f' against it. Not an unreasonable assumption to make I guess. I bow and admit defeat for the 3rd time in 3 days. As far as I'm concerned, Tsunami means Disaster of some kind when it comes to PCs (and PLEASE don't take that as making light of what happened in the far east, I wouldn't want that) There are 2 Chinese/Japanese characters for Tsu and 4 for Nami, 3 of which mean wave. Thus tsunami does not necessarily mean a destructive wave. Do you have any idea of the other meanings? Might make me feel better that I'm looking at another meaning written top right of this keyboard. Hopefully, the other meaning(s) will be something harmless and simple like black PC keyboard. What a good start to the year I am having! Not only off topic, but also pedantic and insulting! Well, Roy managed to insult 2 races in one email, pretty mild going by his standards ;-) PS all you QL-ers writing at great length on New Year's Day. Was it only the Germans who got pissed last night? Well, Jochen has no car to go out in (somebody kindly wrecked it for him) and I guess he's too busy watching his concrete dry in his new flat anyway. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL books
On this thread I've been surprised not to see a mention of what I shall now mention! ;-) Viz Viz? That's not a QL book !*x@ Illustrating Super Basic on the Sinclair QL Donald Alcock, Cambridge University Press, 1985, 182pp ISBN 0-521-31517-4 I was well into programming when I got the book - but I see (now) from my many annotations in it that it proved a very useful source. Yes! - for all ye olde buffs, it's the one that's handwritten but nevertheless very clear with sketches of little 'bugs' crawling here and there. Jan Jones's book is more of a reference guide than a learn to program book. I wouldn't really suggest it to those wishing to learn SuperBASIC int he first place (the QL manual is better for that!) but as a reference guide it's great. There are plenty of learn SuperBASIC books around second hand - Rich Mellor often does a miraculous job of finding them for people who ask. I do have a couple of QL books here I don't want: QL SuperBASIC The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones (original McGraw-Hill edition, not Quanta edition, good condition but has a bit of my scribblings in it) An Introduction to Programming the Sinclair QL by R.A. and J.W.Penfold The Sinclair QL Companion by Boris Allan (first ever book on the QL IIRC ) Advanced programming with the sinclair QL by Martin Gandoff Quantum Theory - Simon Rockman Good Programming With QL SuperBASIC - Roy Atherton 1 pound each + postage to anyone who wants them (or if easier than obtaining Pounds to pay me, just send me a few CD-Rs worth about 1 pound+postage after I've sent them to you when you can see the value of postage. I go through a lot of CDRs making backups here, so they're a tradeable currency to me! There's also a few Spectrum books (haven't looked at titles) which anyone can have at cost of postage. Or if any traders want them to sell on, just ask me and I'll send them to you for cost of postage, or bring them to next Quanta workshop I attend. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] not QDT Demo
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Nah... I just use for everything... a touch of Welsh is always cool I guess ;-) (At least to my Greek eyes) Only the Greek could find the Welsh cool ! (no I have offended two races and it is only January 1st) -- Roy Wood Only offended 2 races in one email? Roy, you are letting your standards slip ;-) I'm happy, I've found someone (one person!) who finds things Welsh cool! Phoebus came out at last ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Now I think I've really have earned myself the time to watch a nice Yes, Minister episode. Now that (and the follow-up Yes Prime Minister) is brilliant. One of the reasons it is so good is that it is heavily based on truth. OK no minister is -that- compliant and manipulatable (urmm that may be an invented word) but the civil servants are -certainly- very like Humphrey. Tony And it probably fits in well with how those in other countries see the British. Surprising that 'Allo 'Allo doesn't cause offence in Europe, but most people seem to see it as belittling the British more than anything else. I suppose programs like these are just so silly (likeably silly) that nobody takes offence. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL books
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:27:26 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On this thread I've been surprised not to see a mention of what I shall now mention! ;-) Viz Viz? That's not a QL book !*x@ Illustrating Super Basic on the Sinclair QL Donald Alcock, Cambridge University Press, 1985, 182pp ISBN 0-521-31517-4 I was well into programming when I got the book - but I see (now) from my many annotations in it that it proved a very useful source. Yes! - for all ye olde buffs, it's the one that's handwritten but nevertheless very clear with sketches of little 'bugs' crawling here and there. Jan Jones's book is more of a reference guide than a learn to program book. I wouldn't really suggest it to those wishing to learn SuperBASIC int he first place (the QL manual is better for that!) but as a reference guide it's great. There are plenty of learn SuperBASIC books around second hand - Rich Mellor often does a miraculous job of finding them for people who ask. I do have a couple of QL books here I don't want: QL SuperBASIC The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones (original McGraw-Hill edition, not Quanta edition, good condition but has a bit of my scribblings in it) But Dilwyn, that's a collector's piece by now !! An Introduction to Programming the Sinclair QL by R.A. and J.W.Penfold The Sinclair QL Companion by Boris Allan (first ever book on the QL IIRC ) Advanced programming with the sinclair QL by Martin Gandoff Quantum Theory - Simon Rockman Good Programming With QL SuperBASIC - Roy Atherton 1 pound each + postage to anyone who wants them (or if easier than obtaining Pounds to pay me, just send me a few CD-Rs worth about 1 pound+postage after I've sent them to you when you can see the value of postage. I go through a lot of CDRs making backups here, so they're a tradeable currency to me! There's also a few Spectrum books (haven't looked at titles) which anyone can have at cost of postage. Or if any traders want them to sell on, just ask me and I'll send them to you for cost of postage, or bring them to next Quanta workshop I attend. Dilwyn - you know I'll take them off your hands gladly... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] happy new year
As I'm going ot try to install something new in this PC and as my record in that department is not good, I'll wish you all a happy new year for 2005 just case I vanish for a few days like I did with a certain TV card a few weeks ago. Hope you've all got your QaLendars up on your walls (just hung mine up a day late!) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Resolutions
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP You only have 4 modes to work in effect: I imagine this is due to hardware since, for the Q60 at any rate, the master chip has an entry for display which can only take 4 different values. I suppose it is the same for the Q40. I have come to that conclusion. I was sure that, when I started using it there were more but it seems I was wrong. I do have a tendency to use a 1024 resolution because that allows the use of two QDs side by side. It was only when I started to write the article on resolutions that I realised there were no intermediate screen sizes between 512 x 256 and 1024 x 512. I do have a second request for information for the second article in the series. This will deal with Hard drives and their uses. I have a series of questions : 1. when did the Rebel Hard drive come out and what was it? 2. When did the Falkenberg Interface come out ? Does anyone have a set of instructions for it they can scan in for me to quote in the article ? I would also like information on how to format the hard drives for the various QL emulations. I can handle QPC2 / Qubide / Q40 (although I would like to know if there were any changes to the hard drive setup since DD started with it) but I have no knowledge of the hard drive emulations on QLAY, UQLX etc. If anyone would like to contribute a section on hard drives for these to be included in the article send them to me. They will, of course, be credited for their contributions. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL books
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:45:40 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are plenty of learn SuperBASIC books around second hand - Rich Mellor often does a miraculous job of finding them for people who ask. I do have a couple of QL books here I don't want: QL SuperBASIC The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones (original McGraw-Hill edition, not Quanta edition, good condition but has a bit of my scribblings in it) But Dilwyn, that's a collector's piece by now !! Try getting my wife to see it that way :-( Space requirements dictate. When my son sleeps with us his room is populated by QL books, QL Worlds, Quanta newsletters, old software, floppy disks.with a little bit of space for him to sleep somewhere in the middle. Seriously. It's time to make space now that my step-daughter from Chris's marriage is living with us on a semi-permanent basis. An Introduction to Programming the Sinclair QL by R.A. and J.W.Penfold The Sinclair QL Companion by Boris Allan (first ever book on the QL IIRC ) Advanced programming with the sinclair QL by Martin Gandoff Quantum Theory - Simon Rockman Good Programming With QL SuperBASIC - Roy Atherton 1 pound each + postage to anyone who wants them (or if easier than obtaining Pounds to pay me, just send me a few CD-Rs worth about 1 pound+postage after I've sent them to you when you can see the value of postage. I go through a lot of CDRs making backups here, so they're a tradeable currency to me! There's also a few Spectrum books (haven't looked at titles) which anyone can have at cost of postage. Or if any traders want them to sell on, just ask me and I'll send them to you for cost of postage, or bring them to next Quanta workshop I attend. Dilwyn - you know I'll take them off your hands gladly... OK, will pop all the QL books in a parcel to you this week, if you're taking the lot forget the pound a piece, just send me face value of postage plus a token amount to satisfy my wife I haven't just given them, away after you get them. I'll be glad to see them find a worthy new home. I keep meaning to do this, as it's a new year I'm going to be firm and sort it all out for once in my life. Well, trouble is that they do tend to follow you around. Please let others get in first though - ie. given them a couple of days to respond to your original offer :-) If your health allows you to come to a workshop this year, I might prepare half a ton of gear for you to have. Seriously, though, as the route from here to most QL shows includes the M6 it might be possible for me to either drop stuff off at your current Shelfield address if I can find it (I hate driving in Walsall/Birmingham areas), or even give you a lift to the workshop (same proviso!) Now there's an offer My health should permit me to drive more this year and maybe attend a show, but with them all now being on the south coast this year (why oh why oh why), think that would be too far for me even with a lift. We can always meet up at a services somewhere !! My QoLlector's urge has gone recently (although QLing urge just as strong as ever) - only collections I still want to keep are QL Worlds, IQLRs and Quantas. Right, let's go collect some stuff for Mr Mellor...I only hope you realise what's coming :o) Not interested in magazines - best place for them is the recycling bin since no-one ever asks for them. Books are different though no more of the Sinclair Series black books - I have piles of those. Right - best make some more room in the garage then ! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] happy new year
Yes I'm sure Stephen Hawking would be interested in this. Steven Moore On 2 Jan 2005, at 1:51 pm, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes As I'm going ot try to install something new in this PC and as my record in that department is not good, I'll wish you all a happy new year for 2005 just case I vanish for a few days like I did with a certain TV card a few weeks ago. Something that can make 'you' disappear has to be fairly drastic I would say. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
I wrote earlier: snip I've installed on QPC. It took 2 attempts. The first time I ran into a file name length problem. Solved by not trying to put QPT in win1_SYSTEM_QPT_ but win1_QPT_ It works now and all I can say is WOW!!! I meant QDT not QPT of course Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] subscription
A few weeks ago I used the sentence Membership of Quanta ... is by subscription to the group's monthly newsletter. John Mason kindly corrected me and pointed out that is not currently the case, indeed it's not even mentioned in the constitution, so I assumed I made a mistake or mixed up with another group I was a member of at the time. Then Tony Firshman popped up to say he remembered it from somewhere or seen mention of it on the net somewhere. In fact, the sentence was inside the front cover of Quanta newsletters up to and including March 1997 and coincidentally editorials at that time were being written by none other than John Mason (current Chairman) and Roy Brereton (current editor), which has reminded me how long these guys have loyally served Quanta! As the change happened at about the time of the AGM it might be that membership was changed at that point, or that it was just a turn of phrase and was altered just to bring everything into line. Although it was never important (just trivia as far as I was concerned), this has been bugging me since it came up, so I'm really glad I've found where that sentence came from at last! Just on a point of interest: the first newsletter was published before the QL was released and the first issue included the first proposed constitution which is not too different to today's, certainly similar in terms of the broad message. So Quanta really is older than the QL in the sense that you'd have got your hands on a Quanta newsletter before getting your hands on a QL! When QL2005 or QLis21 (whatever its final name) comes along this year, I hope someone will do a history of the QL and come up with a little history exhibition and some trivia like this for people to read and recollect! A couple of screens or display boards, about 10 minutes worth of reading would be really nice! -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Fw: happy new year
As I'm going ot try to install something new in this PC and as my record in that department is not good, I'll wish you all a happy new year for 2005 just case I vanish for a few days like I did with a certain TV card a few weeks ago. Back rather sooner than anticipated. The installation didn't work but at least this time the hardware concerned was kind enough to tell me the PC was too primitive and wasn't up to it this time rather than leave the PC/Windows broken! -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] happy new year
As I'm going ot try to install something new in this PC and as my record in that department is not good, I'll wish you all a happy new year for 2005 just case I vanish for a few days like I did with a certain TV card a few weeks ago. Something that can make 'you' disappear has to be fairly drastic I would say. -- Roy Wood He he, this thing failed anyway. Could be an entirely new previously unheard of scientific phenomenon ;-)) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I wrote earlier: I haven't been able to read the disk supplied with Toady. :-( Jochen sent me the files. I've installed on QPC. It took 2 attempts. The first time I ran into a file name length problem. Solved by not trying to put QPT in win1_SYSTEM_QPT_ but win1_QPT_ It works now and all I can say is WOW!!! Now to try it on my Aurora :-) Be careful on the Aurora. It is probably OK on the demo because you have a limited number or items but the full version has problems if the window is too large. I found the bug last night when I installed it on my MinisQL and Jim is looking into it -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:40:52 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I imagine this is due to hardware since, for the Q60 at any rate, the master chip has an entry for display which can only take 4 different values. I suppose it is the same for the Q40. I think he is referring to the same four modes you quoted to me. Jochen said that Peter told him that the hardware would only support these four modes. I don't know why that should be. QLAY only permits windows QL file mapping with separate headers (like QemuLator but not automatically) What does this mean ? That means that you can basically do the same with what QPC's DOSx_ device does only that it is used as a WIN drive. Moreover that means that because DOS drives lose the QDOS headers, some extra information has to be added (either as extra file information on QemuLator or as a separate file on QLay/QL2K/Qlay2) So imagine a directory on the PC side named: c:\QL If you map that directory to the QL emulator (any of the aforementioned ones) as Win1_ , doing a dir win1_ while in the emulator you get a directory of all the files on c:\QL. Moreover you can execute them too (unlike QPC's DOSx_ device that only permits extensions to be loaded) uQLx, permits mapping of directories in the native filesystem to a WINx, mapping of QXL.win files to a win device as well as (if run under UN*X) mapping of raw devices (ie a Q40 partition such as /dev/hda1 if that's your SMSQ/e partition) to a Win device (so you can access both physical and logical drives) QemuLator permits mapping to both directories and QXL.WIN files (the latter only on the Expanded QL registration Finally QDOS Classic when run on an Amiga -or UAE so long as the Kickstart rom is NOT the QDOS Classic rom but a real Amiga ROM ie like running on a real Amiga- permits the attachment of REAL QubIDE drives. On the PC that has the sideeffect that you can run UAE with QDOS Classic and PHYSICALLY attach your QL hard drive on it. All of the above permit no format of the hard drive (except QDOS Classic that has the complete QubIDE rom on it) For formatting one should use wxqt2 + qxltools. I am afraid it will have to be a little more basic than this. We are trying to write something for beginners so it will have to be something easy to understand. This is the trouble. Many of our manuals are written like this and so people do not read them. What do you mean by mapping ? See above what I mean by mapping... as to the how this varies by emulator: on uQLx you either have the uqlx.rc file or use a GUI that does that for you on QLAY/QLAYW you do that by editing the qlay.rc file (as above) on QL2K/QLAY2 you do it by either editing the qlay.rc file -or- by using the MDV/WIN configuration option on the gui on Q-emuLator you click on one of the microdrive slot items and select the appropriate option Note here that Q-emuLator maps all three devices (FLP,MDV, WIN) regardless of actual type of device... so if you attach a QXL.WIN file to Slot 1 you can access it with either dir mdv1_, dir win1_ or dir flp1_ :-) How do you do it? Etc. I am trying to produce clear instructions on how to do things. Can't get any clearer than that :-P Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:53:20 -,() hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Re Dilwyn's: ..Surprising that 'Allo 'Allo doesn't cause offence in Europe,. == Wasn't 'Allo 'Allo the one with the usual line: I will say it only once! What did she say? I said I will say it only once! (Or am I confused here?) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote Yes, Quick Starts are good ... and an 'art' in themselves to write. I wonder how many users on this list are now happily using Launchpad -- Malcolm Cadman Not many. Total sales is easily still in 2 figures. A lot of people said they liked the idea but were waiting for QDT, which makes sense as QDT will be THE product to have for those users with leading edge QL products and my guess is Launchpad will find its own little niche on lesser systems as people realise No GD2? No QDT Hvaing used both, Malcolm, how do you see this going? I guess that like many things they both have their good points while being very different and distinct products. Indeed, I think you are right. When QDT does get going as full release and gets taken up it will be THE system as a desktop. Which it what it is intended to be. There needs to be a 'standard' system of GUI / WIMP so that all users can share a common experience. At present I cannot do a like for like comparison between Launchpad and QDT. As I have a full copy of Launchpad and only a Demo of QDT. They have similarities and they have differences. At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my QPC2 system. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes snip Personally I would like someone to add on a 3D sculptured look to the QDT windows - which are essentially flat at present. Then the 'eye candy' appeal will be even greater. snip Anyone else tried the QDT Demo supplied with QL Today yet ? Hi Francois, interesting comments. Doubt Jim will reply too. Yes, off course. It has been running for over a week now. Installation was smooth and fast, no error messages or problems. QDT has the best installer I have seen on the 'QL': it even beats the 'Prowess' installer. I copied the files from FLP1_ to RAM1_, loaded QDTinst_bas in QD replaced all occurencies of 'win1_' with 'win2_' and ran the installer from within QD. Another ingenious way of doing it ! Yes, the Installer is 'cool'. Some comments: 1)I have a 'UNKOWN' folder that doesn't contain any object. I tried to add one in this folder(as I did in 'APPS') but QDT prompted a warning window '.. aborted.. . QDT doesn't allow to delete the folder either telling me the folder isn't empty. 2) A folder's window should be closed once an object is executed. 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Yes, your point 3 is annoying in the Demo, you can't get rid of it ... :-( 4) The icons are, of course, outstanding. Why not keep the same high quality standard for the icons/sprites in the folders/warning/About windows? (for example the JDH logo,ESC,?(help), W(warning),... This doesn't diminish the functionalities of QDT of course!! 5) All 'Icons/Folders/ About/Warning have the same names( Object icon/ Folder icon/ Wait/ About). This is not a good idea in case one would hang or crash: I woundn't know which one to 'rjob'. 6) If you delete an object in a folder and add a new one the space left by the deleted object remains empty. If you that a few times you will have to resize the folder's window to see the new added object. All the above comments would change my opinion about QDT: It's a great piece of software. If it had been around 10-12 years ago this list would have a few hundreds of active subscribers instead of a few tens. I agree with you. QDT will make using all the features of the new QL system more accessible. The difficulty will be in reaching the all the users who have dropped out for various reasons. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC with flopy disk F: ?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: SMSQ - Jochen Merz Hi Jon, the first USB floppy (or USB stick with floppy functionality/bootability) becomes drive A: if available, otherwiese drive B: That's how it worked here on several laptops. Unfortuately not here; maybe a win98 feature ;-) I recall using commands in DOS to change to whatever letter. Maybe you can manually define it in the Windows 'boot' files equivalents of Autoexec.bat and Config.sys. Although for later versions of Windows these are not as accessible. Later Windows versions also have the 'plug and play' feature which assign drive distinguishing letters to hardware devices. Worth having a look and seeing what the USB floppy is assigned as. Problem with USB devices, I believe, as I haven't used them myself very much, is that if you keep plugging in and unplugging different devices it all gets into a tangle. However, if your USB floppy is a 'permanent' feature of your set up. This should be overcome. I have a parallel port Zip Drive that I plug into 2 different PC's. On one it is Drive D: and on the other it is Drive E: although both PC's have CD-ROMs and the same Windows version. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:44:07 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: clip I stopped it when SMSQ/e was on V.3.00 because of lack of time and relevant documentation. I can complete it if you want (and produce a separate version for QPC/Q40 etc..) Actually I'd be very interested in that. Can you send an example? Marcel Sure... two pages in PDF format as well as source (Ventura-ised text) on the way Also, just to mention it, if anyone is not aware Marcel has the QPC2 manual available on his web site in PDF format. Which is useful, as you can do searches to find items, etc. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] You can never have it all...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes clip On this thread I've been surprised not to see a mention of what I shall now mention! ;-) Viz Illustrating Super Basic on the Sinclair QL Donald Alcock, Cambridge University Press, 1985, 182pp ISBN 0-521-31517-4 I was well into programming when I got the book - but I see (now) from my many annotations in it that it proved a very useful source. Yes! - for all ye olde buffs, it's the one that's handwritten but nevertheless very clear with sketches of little 'bugs' crawling here and there. Yes, there was a whole series of small books on programming done in that style. Although it seems the those days of programming are over ... :-( We may have a copy in the London QL and Quanta Group donations of books. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] happy new year
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes As I'm going ot try to install something new in this PC and as my record in that department is not good, I'll wish you all a happy new year for 2005 just case I vanish for a few days like I did with a certain TV card a few weeks ago. Oh no ! ... Dr Jones is off in his Tardis again :-) Dilwyn leave that PC alone ! -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Jan 1, 2005, at 6:14 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: QDT takes that approach by scanning the 'windrive' contents, so that it sets up a users system for them. It tries to take away all the 'pain' from the user ! Note that, even with the pre-scanning of the drive and other work that QDT does the install, the customer still has some responsibility to make sure that QDT picked the right things. I believe that Roy properly pointed out (haven't seen the final article yet - come on international mail :) ), it is possible for QDT to setup up an object that, if picked, can crash the system. Yes, it is a good idea to help the customer get started but ultimately, the customer will need to do something on anything as helpful as LaunchPad or QDT if he wants to take advantage of it. There are ways to do things better but at the cost of restricting what the user can ultimately do too, or missing out on things. Always tradeoffs. Yes, you are faced with an existing system that has taken some divergent paths too. So you cannot force a new start on the users. I believe that you have taken the right line in making QDT pick up what it can about a users system, and making a more convenient desktop environment. The user will still have to 'tune' it up to their own specific needs. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Off Topic
Hear hear! It is impossible to have a meaningful discussion on a topic if everybody changes the topic and not the heading - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:51:39 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Guys, Can you do me a bit of a favor? Change the subject line if you want to keep talking about this other stuff? Trying to monitor for any QDT specific stuff but instead end up reading all about something else. Thanks! jim Of course you are right :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
Roy Wood wrote: I do have a second request for information for the second article in the series. This will deal with Hard drives and their uses. I have a series of questions : 1. when did the Rebel Hard drive come out and what was it? 2. When did the Falkenberg Interface come out ? Does anyone have a set of instructions for it they can scan in for me to quote in the article ? IIRC, John Gregory of Quanta used to use a Falkenberg HD interface in his PC-cased system. I'm not sure when the Rebel interface came out (1990?) but AFAICR it was conceptually similar to the Falkenberg (and other expansion card HD systems). And, of course, the QUBIDE firmware was based on the Rebel code, albeit heavily modified by Phil Borman... John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues
Malcolm Cadman wrote: At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my QPC2 system. Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other software)? :-) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Some more great feedback - keep it coming everyone, as it is most useful. Here are some responses below... On Jan 1, 2005, at 6:33 PM, François Van Emelen wrote: 1)I have a 'UNKOWN' folder that doesn't contain any object. I tried to add one in this folder(as I did in 'APPS') but QDT prompted a warning window '.. aborted.. . QDT doesn't allow to delete the folder either telling me the folder isn't empty. In this case it is empty due to the limits of the demo. In the full version, any executable that is not found in the database but found on your search path will be placed here, up to the limit of 100 objects. Then you can decide if you want to keep them or delete them. The reason you can't add anything is again the limits of the demo. The limits are both for a single folder plus overall limits. If you delete something from one of the other folders or the desktop, then you will be able to try adding one in this folder. 2) A folder's window should be closed once an object is executed. The executable folder (not enabled in the demo) will be kind of like this. This is a folder that when its object is clicked on it will execute a program (normally within the folder) and not open the folder itself. Or you can from the menu open the folder. I may in the future be adding an option to close a folder when opening a new folder or executing something - user configurable. It is on the wish list at this point. 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Will be adding a specific ESC button. For now, just hit escape to close it. I fell into a mental trap and followed a very bad example from the PC world with many About windows. I am considering an option for future drop down menus to allow a single click close of them. Will also consider a separate icon or method. But for now, please also use ESC to abort from any drop down menu. This will likely not be in the full release but would be added in one of the free updates. 4) The icons are, of course, outstanding. Why not keep the same high quality standard for the icons/sprites in the folders/warning/About windows? (for example the JDH logo,ESC,?(help), W(warning),... These are being worked on along with some other cosmetic improvements - just did not make it in time for the demo. 5) All 'Icons/Folders/ About/Warning have the same names( Object icon/ Folder icon/ Wait/ About). This is not a good idea in case one would hang or crash: I woundn't know which one to 'rjob'. Will look into name differentiation for future updates. For actual errors, additional more specific information is added to the qdt.log file (but never enough it would seem :) ). Will also be releasing as a future update a separate job manager that will allow you to block out all the QDT items if desired (each object on the desktop, icon or open folder, is a separate job). 6) If you delete an object in a folder and add a new one the space left by the deleted object remains empty. If you that a few times you will have to resize the folder's window to see the new added object. This isn't quite true but for some reason the first space in a folder is not being used in the placement algorithm. The algorithm for placement of new objects is based on a preset grid. I am currently doing some much needed tuning for icon placement but the theory is that if any object is within a grid square it will not be reused for a new one for automatic placement. Currently there are a few locations not being used properly in the demo but this will be correct in the full release. Of course, you can always move any object around so if you want to pack things tighter or spread them out, no problems. All the above comments would change my opinion about QDT: It's a great piece of software. If it had been around 10-12 years ago this list would have a few hundreds of active subscribers instead of a few tens. Timing seems to be everything. But to tell the truth, if we have hundreds of active subscribers I would spend all my time monitoring this list and not getting anything done on the QDT release :) If available at the QL metting in Eindhoven (March?),I will buy it, together with QWORD( Dutch and French versions). Happy New Year to all of you. At this point in time QDT development is my full time job (took a mini-sabatical from the work force to finish this and a few other projects) So it will definitely be shipping this month. I understand that Jochen and Roy are both taking orders at this time. We will announce final shipping dates when I get a bit closer to the golden release copy. Again, thanks for excellent feedback. Jim JDH Software Technologies ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
The demo should be OK for the unknown folder since no objects are being placed in it on this version. The sizing issue that Roy has discovered will be fixed in the full release. Cheers, jim JDH Software Technologies On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I wrote earlier: I haven't been able to read the disk supplied with Toady. :-( Jochen sent me the files. I've installed on QPC. It took 2 attempts. The first time I ran into a file name length problem. Solved by not trying to put QPT in win1_SYSTEM_QPT_ but win1_QPT_ It works now and all I can say is WOW!!! Now to try it on my Aurora :-) Be careful on the Aurora. It is probably OK on the demo because you have a limited number or items but the full version has problems if the window is too large. I found the bug last night when I installed it on my MinisQL and Jim is looking into it -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Fwd: QDT Demo
Glad you were able to get it installed. You did run into the file/dir name length limits built into our systems. And QDT does use sub-directories. Will add a note to the FAQs page just in case someone else hits this. Cheers, jim JDH Software Technologies On Jan 2, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Dent wrote: I wrote earlier: I haven't been able to read the disk supplied with Toady. :-( Jochen sent me the files. I've installed on QPC. It took 2 attempts. The first time I ran into a file name length problem. Solved by not trying to put QPT in win1_SYSTEM_QPT_ but win1_QPT_ It works now and all I can say is WOW!!! Now to try it on my Aurora :-) Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:08:31 -, John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malcolm Cadman wrote: At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my QPC2 system. Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other software)? :-) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Yes - EXEC menuconfig and choose the Learn option :-P -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:36:55 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Blimey Phoebus - From now on I shall be known as Ffibys - the artist formerly known as Phoebus ;-) this is not exactly very well put - not a guide for beginners and just the sort of thing to put people off trying these emulators. A beginner wants to know how set up a hard disk within an emaulator, cop a QL disk onto that hard drive and use it to run programs from. Pah! :-) Roy asked ;-) not the beginner. It is obvious that he will put it in a more comprehensible form ;-) I'd imagine Roy would understand what I mean :-) 1) You say you have the uqlx.rc file a) Where would a user find this b) Which line in it would the user have to amend and what would they put to map win1_ to D:\QL (or whatever it is)? 2) Where is the MDV/WIN configuration on the gui (what is a gui - beginners who have limited experience of Windows and MACs will not even know this term). Is the gui the main emulator menu which surrounds the QL screen? 3) On Q-Emulator - you need to tell people what the microdrive slot items are - maybe some diagrams are needed (I know that are the little white boxes which appear under the QL screen on Q-Emulator - but it is not actually obvious that is what these are, and even that there 8 slots available if you maximise the window. That actually is described in detail in the very good QemuLator manual (soon to be available in PDF as well) ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] tsunami (with an on-topic ending)
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] tsunami (OT) Tut! Tut! Dilwyn, you old misogynist. Japanese nouns do not have a gender! The little oxford dictionary I looked up in had an 'f' against it. Not an unreasonable assumption to make I guess. I checked the dictionary f. = from, fem = feminine. Do you have any idea of the other meanings? Might make me feel better that I'm looking at another meaning written top right of this keyboard. Hopefully, the other meaning(s) will be something harmless and simple like black PC keyboard. This has me fascinated. Not least what is a Korean keyboard doing with a Japanese name? Could it be a made up company name? Is the name just romanised or are there characters? Are the chinese characters that make up the name anywhere on the keyboard? Japanese is full of ambiguities. The only translation of tsunami I can find is tidal wave, which is written in two forms. Tsu means harbour, but is also found in words meaning everywhere. The nami or wave character in the second, less common form, is also is found in such words as adventurers, minstrels and romanticism. Given that Japan is in constant danger from tsunamis I am surprised the word is formed from two neutral characters with an innocuous meanings. Harbour wave has a quite a pleasant sound to it. PS all you QL-ers writing at great length on New Year's Day. Was it only the Germans who got pissed last night? Well, Jochen has no car to go out in (somebody kindly wrecked it for him) and I guess he's too busy watching his concrete dry in his new flat anyway. Being serious, I am surprised by the amount of activity on this list over the new year, and the variety of subjects. The one thing that is clear is that the QL has ended 2004 in a much stronger state than at the beginning of the year. Who would have thought at the beginning of the year that three major software projects - Launchpad, QDT and QWord would be finalised during the year? Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo cut If available at the QL metting in Eindhoven (March?),I will buy it, together with QWORD( Dutch and French versions). Happy New Year to all of you. Why wait?? I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have to rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)? They might have sold out you never know !! It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP IIRC, John Gregory of Quanta used to use a Falkenberg HD interface in his PC-cased system. Maybe he still has a manual then. I'm not sure when the Rebel interface came out (1990?) but AFAICR it was conceptually similar to the Falkenberg (and other expansion card HD systems). And, of course, the QUBIDE firmware was based on the Rebel code, albeit heavily modified by Phil Borman... I had mentioned that and that was why I wanted the other information. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
0In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Yes, your point 3 is annoying in the Demo, you can't get rid of it ... :-( Interesting that we are now so centred on desktop furniture that we don't think of hitting the ESC key. That gets rid of it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote: At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my QPC2 system. Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other software)? :-) You find it next to the 'No Crashing' check box -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:13:53 -, gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. That sounds good Geoff and is ok with me :-) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Blimey Phoebus - From now on I shall be known as Ffibys - the artist formerly known as Phoebus ;-) Like Meatloaf - the artist formerly known as 'Mince' this is not exactly very well put - not a guide for beginners and just the sort of thing to put people off trying these emulators. A beginner wants to know how set up a hard disk within an emaulator, cop disk onto that hard drive and use it to run programs from. Pah! :-) Roy asked ;-) not the beginner. It is obvious that he will put it in a more comprehensible form ;-) I'd imagine Roy would understand what I mean :-) I understood some of it but I have never run any of these emulators. Ideally someone who uses them should give me a basic explanation and I will add it to the finished article. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Can't get any clearer than that :-P Blimey Phoebus - this is not exactly very well put - not a guide for beginners and just the sort of thing to put people off trying these emulators. A beginner wants to know how set up a hard disk within an emaulator, cop a QL disk onto that hard drive and use it to run programs from. 1) You say you have the uqlx.rc file a) Where would a user find this b) Which line in it would the user have to amend and what would they put to map win1_ to D:\QL (or whatever it is)? 2) Where is the MDV/WIN configuration on the gui (what is a gui - beginners who have limited experience of Windows and MACs will not even know this term). Is the gui the main emulator menu which surrounds the QL screen? 3) On Q-Emulator - you need to tell people what the microdrive slot items are - maybe some diagrams are needed (I know that are the little white boxes which appear under the QL screen on Q-Emulator - but it is not actually obvious that is what these are, and even that there 8 slots available if you maximise the window. This is the sort of thing I mean. So many manuals rattle this stuff out like a machine gun and the poor non technical user who wants to get to be technical retires hurt. As I said, I can do QPC2 etc. If someone could do it for the emulators I would be happy to put it into my text. I don't even mind correcting the English but it does have to be simple. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Black to the QL
Dilwyn Jones wrote: ... Was the change of subject line deliberate or an apt mistype (back and black) Deliberate...wondered who'd be the first to spot it - well done Wilson... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Still no excuse for me. After these years at Apple, you would think that I would be more consistent on every part of the interface :) Plus, many users of this probably won't be used to the PC side of things so I shouldn't be making that kind of assumption. Will definitely take care of these points one at a time... Cheers, jim On Jan 2, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Roy wood wrote: 0In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Yes, your point 3 is annoying in the Demo, you can't get rid of it ... :-( Interesting that we are now so centred on desktop furniture that we don't think of hitting the ESC key. That gets rid of it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Roy wood wrote: snip 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Yes, your point 3 is annoying in the Demo, you can't get rid of it ... :-( Interesting that we are now so centred on desktop furniture that we don't think of hitting the ESC key. That gets rid of it. I had already discovered that. I only wanted to show some inconsistencies: some windows have an 'ESC' button others don't. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 at 22:56:12, jms1 wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 at 23:46:11, jms1 wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip robots ignoring meta Somewwhere I read that these programs check to see whether the web page contains the meta tags and if not ignores them. I could be years out of date That sentence sounds worng. If they ignore the meta, then why bother to check at all? Thanks Tony it was very badly worded. What I meant to say is that crawler checks to see if the contents of the meta tags are in the body of the text. If it is not it ignores that meta tag and does not add it to the list. Not as I understand it, and -certainly- not what Google do (see my example in previous email). Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote: At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my QPC2 system. Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other software)? :-) OK ... you got me there, John. Explain more ... ? -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes 0In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Yes, your point 3 is annoying in the Demo, you can't get rid of it ... :-( Interesting that we are now so centred on desktop furniture that we don't think of hitting the ESC key. That gets rid of it. Indeed, I didn't try the ESC key ... yet you expect the GUI to refer to itself and not the keyboard. As everything else is based on the GUI. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:42:10 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, sorry to mail this here... but did you get my email? If you did, did you try and answer? My server has a spamfilter and you need to reply to the first email that the filter will send you to register yourself with the server. (Of course sometime this email gets picked up by other spamfilters!) Nope, I don't think I got it. And I think I registered with your spam filter a while back. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] OUTLN on QPC2 smsq/e
Sometime ago, we were discussing the problem of changing the screen resolution and that crashing SuperBASIC. One of the ways aroud this was to set all 3 basic windows to size 0x0 before doing the DISP_SIZE (or DISP_COLOUR) command and resetting them afterwards to fit within the new resolution (God help you if you do this and then get an error when you set them to the new resolution though). This does work subject to the limitation of making sure you don't get an error. However, OUTLN #0,0,0,0,0 crashes SuperBASIC - a quick look at the channels in QPAC2 shows that it still exists, but SuperBASIC cannot get past this point. H -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
gwicks wrote: snip It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer not to transfer money abroad. Franois Van Emelen The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:18:31 +0100, Franois Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gwicks wrote: snip It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer not to transfer money abroad. Trouble is that banks charge money to transfer money abroad and to receive it (UK banks charge around 25 to accept a foreign payment !!) That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and no extra charges really. The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Rich Mellor wrote: snip Why wait?? I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have to rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)? Please see my reply to Geoff. They might have sold out you never know !! You are pulling my leg here (correct English? :) If so, it would be great for you, Geoff and Dokos. Why not ask other traders to add QWORD in their catalog: Roy and Jochen are usually attending Eindhoven. Ex-traders could do the same. There are cdroms out there (Dilwyn's,..) I have never seen at a QL meeting and so never had the opportunity to buy them. Franois Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:32:51 +0100, Franois Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Mellor wrote: snip Why wait?? I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have to rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)? Please see my reply to Geoff. They might have sold out you never know !! You are pulling my leg here (correct English? :) If so, it would be great for you, Geoff and Dokos. Why not ask other traders to add QWORD in their catalog: Roy and Jochen are usually attending Eindhoven. Ex-traders could do the same. There are cdroms out there (Dilwyn's,..) I have never seen at a QL meeting and so never had the opportunity to buy them. The problem is that QL software is supplied on a very tight budget - doesn't really leave any room to let others take a share of sale proceeds, especially after taking account of the cost of getting the disks and manuals etc to the trader in the first place. Also, having stocks with other traders also causes problems when you update the software (or need to keep a list of your customers since traders don't always get these details). Because the QL market is so small, and so few people actually attend shows / buy stuff at the shows, it makes the postage to the trader a very high proportion of the actual profit on any sales (I sent some stuff to teh Norwich show for sale - the profit from the two items that were actually sold did not cover the postage, so I won't be doing that again - leave it for people to order over the internet, or if they aren't willing to find a way of ordering from abroad, let them lose out). Coupled with the problems of getting payment from fellow traders, it really is not worthwhile any more. If foreign users want to order stuff from the UK, I would gladly take payments via PayPal and pass on the payment to the actualt trader (less the PayPal fee - about 6%). I have done this before for some of my customers. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OUTLN on QPC2 smsq/e
On 2 Jan 2005 at 22:59, Rich Mellor wrote: However, OUTLN #0,0,0,0,0 crashes SuperBASIC - a quick look at the channels in QPAC2 shows that it still exists, but SuperBASIC cannot get past this point. Oh, what a naughty thing to do. :-) Of coutse, Sbasic hasn't crashed, but if you set the outline to a size of 0,0, of course you won't have a cursor anymore, nor anywhere to type in the new outline sinze you made the window too small.. However, try the following: outln#0,0,0,0,0 pause 50 outln#0,100,100,100,100 and run it. After a second, you will have the new window#0 Wolfgang PS. I'm back. Happy new year to all. There were something like 350 messages( in 2 weeks!) on this list - just too many to read them all (who would have thought that a few months sago?). Any topic I *should* have kept up with? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
David Tubbs wrote: At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! Just spotted 'FLP_STEP' entry is present twice, but I'm guessing the first one should be read 'FLP_STOP'. You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. I would go along using Lyx, but designing the right model document in latex is going to be an extensive work. Then importing the full text, and then painting the styles everywhere is a mouseclick game... a long game. If you really want to achieve the same look, you have a long way to go for the model. The stopping part: Lyx does not know of user-defined character formatting, at best you can have a Noun style, a emphasied style and the normal style. I was thinking on slightly different lines, either an html or spreadsheet. Facility to search and sort, easy cut+paste, rather than a pretty printable picture. Making a database out of it might be simpler, but the inserted tables of the text might need to be reconsidered. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 08:10:38 +0100,() Jrme Grimbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: If you really want to achieve the same look, you have a long way to go for the model. Not really ;-) There are easier ways as I demonstated to Marcel. My complete QL Manual stylesheet clone (and almost perfect- it would be perfect but unfortunately the original QL manual doesn't list the type used for everything so I did approximate... it's a good thing I have a 25000+ library of fonts btw) was actually done in under 10 minutes (Ventura and a subset of SGML is perfect for that). The stopping part: Lyx does not know of user-defined character formatting, at best you can have a Noun style, a emphasied style and the normal style. I was thinking on slightly different lines, either an html or spreadsheet. Facility to search and sort, easy cut+paste, rather than a pretty printable picture. Making a database out of it might be simpler, but the inserted tables of the text might need to be reconsidered. Not a problem either. Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
