[scifinoir2] Re: Vampire Diaries Coming to CW
I'm starting to miss the days when vampires actually had 'bite'. I just can't bring myself to care about 'Calipires'. Just too Hollywood for me. I prefer mine with a bit more depth. Have not read nor seen Twilight nor do I care to. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > Vampire Diaries Coming to CW > > Scream writer Kevin Williamson brings vamps back to network TV. > > The CW is getting into the vampire business. Nikki Finke reports on > <http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-vampire-on-cw/> > deadlinehollywoodnews.com that the network has ordered Vampire Diaries for > the 2009-2010 season. > > Based on a series of books about a love triangle between a high school girl > and two vampire brothers, the series comes from Scream and Dawson's Creek > writer Kevin Williamson <http://stars.ign.com/objects/914/914625.html> . The > CW targets a young female demographic that obviously has been quite > passionate for recent vampire projects like True Blood > <http://tv.ign.com/objects/888/888633.html> and Twilight > <http://movies.ign.com/objects/142/14208481.html> , and even CBS's cancelled > Moonlight <http://tv.ign.com/objects/906/906438.html> had a dedicated > following (and about seven million viewers per episode that the CW would > love to have for any of their shows). > > While it's probably safe to assume that Twilight's huge success helped get > Vampire Diaries on the air and led to the book series being re-launched > recently, it's worth noting that the Vampire Diaries books actually pre-date > Twilight by many years, having begun in 1991. > > http://tv.ign.com/articles/983/983919p1.html >
[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
Martin, I'll take it if you don't want it, especially wrapped in those C-notes. You can, of course keep Gabrielle, my flow don't go THAT way.:) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: > > Not even if you were to buy me the Special Edition DVD when it came out, > wrapped that in C-notes and had it hand-delivered to me by Gabrielle Union in > an old-school Uhura uniform. (Let 'em doubt my sincerity NOW.) > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 16:14:32 -0700 > From : "Tracey de Morsella" > To : > > Câmon, not even on DVD, the Internet or cable? > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Martin Baxter > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:39 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > > Fate, I'm on the record. Best I can do is to give it a lot of thought. In > recent months, I've resisted seeing a lot of movies I was told I *had* to > see, almost all of which turned out to be crap. > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 12:18:23 -0700 (PDT) > From : Augustus Augustus > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Martin, > > Tracey and Bosco are correct. Just go and see it and enjoy it for what it's > worth. my wife and i saw it last night, and we both liked it, and trust me. > when i saw she liked a sci-fi movie, that is a feat! > > Fate. > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Tracey de Morsella wrote: > > From: Tracey de Morsella > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 2:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin: > > Why canât you see it absorb it, enjoy it if possible and then > come home and complain about the inconsistencies, Like Galactigus did > > > > > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bosco Bosco > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:01 AM > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dude > > > > This movie is GREAT. Miss it if you must but it's GREAT. Did I mention it's > frakin GREAT. I really think you're cheating yourself by taking a stand > against without having seen it. Seriously. > > > > God that movie was GREAT. > > > > Bosco > > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > From: Martin Baxter > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:45 PM > > > > > > > Adrianne, I've never thought of Doctor Who as a reboot, merely a > restart. The nature of the show itself allows for far more flexibility in > storytelling. The same can be said for Trek, but there are established > events that formed the show's collective mythos. IMO, those events are > being juggled, solely to make money. Yes, it's the Way of All Things. I > don't have to accept it. > > > > I won't. I'll NEVER see this movie, not on cable, not on free TV, not even > if someone were to send it to me, wrapped in C-notes. I'd send it right > back. > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail > Content ]-- > > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 11:43:31 -0400 > > From : Adrianne Brennan > > To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > > I dunno. I don't see what they're doing as being any different from the > > reboot of Doctor Who, except with more major canonical differences. > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > http://w
[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
For me it indeed 'felt' like Trek. I guess its a case of YMMV. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: > > GW, > > You've hit the proverbial nail on the head. It was a good movie, I enjoyed > much of it, but it didn't *feel* like Trek. And when some people hear my > complaints they think I'm trying to be a "purist" or that I don't like the > timeline/alternate reality change. And that's not it at all. I'm not one of > those folks who was griping because there was a woman in charge on Voyager or > because Picard didn't go around fighting everyone like Kirk did. I like those > kinds of changes. I think the timeline/alternate reality thing is bold--even > if I'll miss the old guys. No, my issues lay on whether this new Trek will > still continue in the vision that (imho) gave the stories such a massive > fanbase and following. > > Sin/Black Galactus > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, GWashin891@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/10/09 11:45:06 AM, adrianne.brennan@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > I dunno. I don't see what they're doing as being any different from the > > > reboot of Doctor Who, except with more major canonical differences. > > > > > > > At least in the Doctor Who reboots they made a great effort to at least > > keep with the spirit of the show and it's cannonal history. Even if they > > did > > change it. And inspite of those changes it, In short still 'felt' like > > Doctor Who. > > > > > > -GTW > > > > > > ** > > The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 > > Easy Steps! > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376999x1201454299/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&; > > bcd=May51009AvgfooterNO62) > > >
[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
I was a near instance Picard fan, mainly because he was the total opposite of Kirk. If Kirk had been killed at anytime during TOS, I'd have leaped for joy.:) I really didn't like him until the movies appeared. Watching the movie today I found myself really liking this Kirk, much to my surprise.:) Quinto was outstanding,IMO. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > One more thing, Do any of you remember when people torn down TNG during its > premier. How about Picard. He is now among some more beloved than Kirk, > yet many were prepared to start a rebellion when the series premiered. I > think some of the traditionalists will eventually adapt and learn to > separate enjoy and gripe. Griping can be fun > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Justin Mohareb > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but a lot of people have decided that, sight unseen, they're not going > to like this film. > > > > I, personally, don't have the time or energy to debate or cajole or even, at > this point, care. > > > > Let them stew in prejudice and nostalgia. > > > > That leaves more seats for the rest of us. > > > > Justin > > On 10-May-09, at 10:15 AM, Adrianne Brennan > wrote: > > And yet, me and many others who ARE Trek fans--heck, been a Trekkie all of > my life--*loved* the movie! > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own words. > > "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 08:36:17 - > > From : "sincere1906" > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > Okay. Getting real Trek geek here... > > SPOILERS! > > SPOILERS! > > SPOILSRS! > > > Where are the Temporal Authorities? In a Deep Space 9 episode, we got to see > guys from the future who monitor time. I figure they must be able to remain > unaltered outside the timeline. Shouldn't some alarm (or however they're > notified) have gone off somewhere as soon as that giant Romulan ship showed > up and started rippling through the time line? > > Jes thinkin aloud... > > Sin > > > > -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: > > > > Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago and am just > getting in after a night of debauchery. So I might be writing this on a Red > Stripe buzz, but here goes... > > > > S P O I L E R S ! ! ! > > > > I liked the movie. As a movie, it was good. The plot was decent. There was > well-paced excitement, humor, etc. The cast was relatable. I thought > everyone did a great job playing their roles--even down to Chekhov. So as a > movie, good. I give it 3 stars out of four. > > > > The larger question, what I suppose matters the most on a group like this, > is was it good Trek? > > > > On this, I'm truly torn. > > > > First off, I knew they said get ready to forget everything you know about > Trek, but damn...I didn't know they were this serious! Thanks to that > Romulan ship coming through a black hole and killing Kirk's father, the > timeline that we know from that point on has been severed. The Butterfly > effect has created a host of new phenomenon--right down to a love affar > between Uhuru and Spock--which never seemed to exist before. This was a bold > and daring move. The writers of this new Trek world have an entire alternate > reality on their hands. They can do anything. And with Vulcans reduced to a > virtual minor colony the entire course of the Federation could be altered, > not to mention the balance of power in the Alpha Quadrant. They should call > this "Ultimate Star Trek!" There's a sense of loss here knowing that the > Trek reality that I've long called home no lo
[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
I have seen the movie and I loved it. My feelings about this non-issue is the same as yours. I just will not be drawn into a convoluted argument about Trek loyalties. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Justin Mohareb wrote: > > Yeah, but a lot of people have decided that, sight unseen, they're not > going to like this film. > > I, personally, don't have the time or energy to debate or cajole or > even, at this point, care. > > Let them stew in prejudice and nostalgia. > > That leaves more seats for the rest of us. > > Justin > > On 10-May-09, at 10:15 AM, Adrianne Brennan > wrote: > > > > > > > And yet, me and many others who ARE Trek fans--heck, been a Trekkie > > all of my life--*loved* the movie! > > > > > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > wrote: > > That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own > > words. > > > > "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 08:36:17 - > > > > From : "sincere1906" > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Okay. Getting real Trek geek here... > > > > SPOILERS! > > > > SPOILERS! > > > > SPOILSRS! > > > > > > Where are the Temporal Authorities? In a Deep Space 9 episode, we > > got to see guys from the future who monitor time. I figure they must > > be able to remain unaltered outside the timeline. Shouldn't some > > alarm (or however they're notified) have gone off somewhere as soon > > as that giant Romulan ship showed up and started rippling through > > the time line? > > > > Jes thinkin aloud... > > > > Sin > > > > > > -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: > > > > > > Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago and am > > just getting in after a night of debauchery. So I might be writing > > this on a Red Stripe buzz, but here goes... > > > > > > S P O I L E R S ! ! ! > > > > > > I liked the movie. As a movie, it was good. The plot was decent. > > There was well-paced excitement, humor, etc. The cast was relatable. > > I thought everyone did a great job playing their roles--even down to > > Chekhov. So as a movie, good. I give it 3 stars out of four. > > > > > > The larger question, what I suppose matters the most on a group > > like this, is was it good Trek? > > > > > > On this, I'm truly torn. > > > > > > First off, I knew they said get ready to forget everything you > > know about Trek, but damn...I didn't know they were this serious! > > Thanks to that Romulan ship coming through a black hole and killing > > Kirk's father, the timeline that we know from that point on has been > > severed. The Butterfly effect has created a host of new phenomenon-- > > right down to a love affar between Uhuru and Spock--which never > > seemed to exist before. This was a bold and daring move. The writers > > of this new Trek world have an entire alternate reality on their > > hands. They can do anything. And with Vulcans reduced to a virtual > > minor colony the entire course of the Federation could be altered, > > not to mention the balance of power in the Alpha Quadrant. They > > should call this "Ultimate Star Trek!" There's a sense of loss here > > knowing that the Trek reality that I've long called home no longer > > exists (or exists in some other timeline). For all we know future > > figures like Picard might never have been born. For the ! > > first time I can recall, we have a Trek spin off that cannot fit > > into the larger Trek universe. That will take some getting used to. > > > > > > Second, where a part of me is concerned, is I'm trying to figure > > out where this new story
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Leverage Renewed
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Really? They're making new eps? And Lester is back? When did that happen? And why did he leave the show in the first place? > The sixth ep. of this new season is on tomorrow. He left to try his craft in 'Hollywoe' but he found he wasn't interested in the tripe they were trying to sell him. He's to good for them anyway. Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Leverage Renewed
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@... wrote: > > How do you like "Leverage" compared to the British series "Hustle"? I enjoyed that show, it had a black man in the lead-and a very good actor to boot. Doesn't seem to have ever really caught on in America during its run... Hustle's back and so is Adrian Lester as the lead. Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] OT Super Bowl
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: > > Hope that you enjoyed it! > Yes I did. Thanks. This was the first time in 23yrs. that I got to watch the game as it was happening. I even got the chance to call home to do some game talk with my Sister and Niece. Fantastic!!! Especially since The Steelers won!! Meta BBC One is airing the entire game. > I'm so happy!!! > > Meta > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds >
[scifinoir2] OT Super Bowl
BBC One is airing the entire game. I'm so happy!!! Meta
[scifinoir2] Newspaper front pages from around the world covering the Inauguration
Hi, Click on this link to see the front pages of newspapers from around the world, covering President Barack Obama's inauguration. You should be able to click on a paper to enlarge it. http://c6.going.com/obama/inauguration_headlines.html Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, gwashin...@... wrote: > > Did you folks really think they were going to do something that drastic. > We're talking sci-fi here folks. > > > -GTW That is why I told my son not to get excited about the possibility. I knew it would be another white guy. I found the choice lacking but now that its him I hope he'll be at least a bit good. I'm not expecting him he last pass his first season. He much to now for my taste, like the latest teen pin-up boy. Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: > > Keith, > > u are so right about them being under used. the exceptions for the trek series were Dax and Kira. i even liked Dax's character when she was in the alternate universe. the thing between her and Sisko was too kool! always knew he wanted 2 hit just a little bit. as 4 B5, Claudia Christian as Susan Ivanova was kick ass. smart, sexy, and tough. she was good. Farscape was good too with Claudia Black as Aeryn Sun. but then again, always had a little crush on claudia black (so u know she was my fav when they brought her onto SG-1. > > Dr. Fate I liked all the women in Farscape but Claudia was fantastic. The show was just the best, period. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: FW: Intro Lavender, Milledgeville, GA
Wesley was Gene Wesley Roddenberry. After Roddenberry became less involved in production, etc. the role of Wesley Crusher became less intrusive. I always liked the kid.:) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: > > i totally agree with the assessment of young mr. crusher. genius he may be, but even being a genius has 2 give away sometimes with experience and training. the ep where he got his field promotion 2 ensign? riker and troi's mom (the late great majel) are kidnapped by the ferengi and it is wesley who recognizes the pattern in the static. good ep in that it was kool seeing wes come on the bridge in his uniform, but it was time 2 write him off the show. he was doing too much. i also noticed in STTNG: Nemesis that he did not have a speaking role, and he was in his dress whites. guess he got tired of 'traveling'? > > Dr. Fate > > --- On Sat, 1/3/09, keithbjohn...@... wrote: > From: keithbjohn...@... > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: Intro Lavender, Milledgeville, GA > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 2:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome! I'm really happy to see another Trek fan possibly as rabid as me. (We'll forgo the "Trekkie" vs. "Trekker" discussion for a bit!) > > I agree with you about Wesley Crusher. After a while it got silly. Remember the ep when Geordi is stranded on a plane with a Romulan, and they can't be reached because the magnetic field of the planet is so intense? Back on the Enterprise, the senior staff is sitting around saying "How can we reach Geordi?" and at a loss. Suddenly, Wesley gets the bright idea to send down a beacon emitting a neutrino beam. Late, when the beacon materializes on the planet, Geordi's first words are "Thank you, Wesley Crusher!" > > > > Even my wife--a casual Trek fan--commented, "Man, that's sad. Geordi didn't even think of anyone else but Wesley as being behind that solution!" > > -- Original message - - > > From: "Dax" > > > Hello, I do hope that you are doing well and the rest of the group. I mean > > > the thing to me about TNG was that I felt that Wesley was solving too many > > > things on the ship and made me think that the senior staff was really dumb. > > > I am sure somewhere in Star Fleet Command they were thinking the same > > > thing. I thought that however the first Hulk was not good due to the fact > > > that gave too much back info which made the flow of the movie slow. I think > > > if that did not do that it would have been a great movie. In all rights I > > > understand why they did but for die hard fans we know the hulk. We know not > > > to make him angry! > > > --Lavender > > > If you don't like vanilla, try some chocolate. > > > > > > - - - - -- > > > From: "Tracey de Morsella" > > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:35 PM > > > To: > > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Intro Lavender, Milledgeville, GA > > > > > > > Hey Dax: > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking a leap and sending us your introduction. There are > > > > about > > > > 10 additional members who recently joined who I hope will follow your lead > > > > and submit their profiles as well. (HINT, HINT to those of you who have > > > > joined over the past few months. > > > > > > > > There are a lot of Dax and Sisko fans here on the list, myself included so > > > > you should feel right at home. > > > > > > > > The young nerd character irks me too, but now a new character is starting > > > > to > > > > irk me. The goth chick. Usually she is a geek hybrid. > > > > > > > > I liked the first Hulk more than most, but I did not love it. Please share > > > > with us why the first Hulk is your favorite > > > > > > > > Welcome to the group!!! > > > > > > > > Tracey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On > > > > Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella > > > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:20 AM > > > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: Intro Lavender, Milledgeville, GA >
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: > > May I venture to throw in Leeta, also from DS9? She started out as eye candy, being a Dabo girl, but eventually became a strong character. > Now it took a very long time and much patients before I could bring myself to like her, but at least she didn't go for the obvious hunky human guys. She turned out to be a good character. Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, keithbjohn...@... wrote: > > That's an interesting point: just how big is the female following among Trek? And how does its appeal among women compare with other scifi giants like Babylon 5, Star Wars, Farscape? Trek has always had an extremely strong female following. Had it not been for females the whole franchise might have never rearose. Females started the very first drive to bring Trek back when it was in danger of being canceled after season two of TOS as well as keeping the drive going for making the move to film. We also had a strong hand in starting the original fan cons. > > I agree that the women of Trek weren't very well utilized in the main. I read character sketches on TNG, for example, revealing that Deanna Troi was originally characterized as having a genius level IQ. The only hint of that we saw was one ep where she beat Data playing 3D chess, and even that might be more her ability to think outside his logical box. I didn't start liking Deanna until she started dressing in uniform and I really became a fan after she played the undercover Romulan. Beverly Crusher was a fav of mine, but she was woefully underused. She was a fav of mine as well and they really had not a clue what to do with her, besides kill patients.:) I guess you'd put Janeway in the "ultra butch" category, and Seven of Nine and T'Pol in the "ultra fem" category? I liked Janeway at first, until they turned her into a bad rendition of a female Capt. Ahab with earth as the whale. For some reason I liked Seven, okay the costume was a bit much, but I actually thought Jerry did an okay job. I never meshed with Enterprise so I can't really say much about T'pol. I do plan to watch the show from beginning to end one day. I have to, I'm a Trekkie.:) > > What about the women of Deep Space Nine? They seemed to be fairly well-rounded to me. Dax was sexy and attractive, but also smart and tough and serious when needed. She was never too far one way or the other. Same for Kira, who was tough as nails, but allowed to be a woman who could have tender feelings for a man. The DS9 ladies were as close to real women as Trek ever came, although here and there they strayed a bit. My fav was Kassidy and they sort of half-heartedly used her. Still DS9 is my favorite 'realistic' Trek. TNG's my fav 'fantasy' Trek. As for the others, Star War only had Leia and in the first movie she was just the 'bone' the heroes wanted. I do like her. One can't expect much more from Lucas, after all. I never saw all of Babylon 5, but I liked what I did see a great deal. As for Farscape, I'm still in shock that they took it off. I absolutely loved this show from beginning to end. They got it right. I'm still hoping for a movie or something. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor to be announced on BBC tomorrow
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Adrianne Brennan" wrote: > > Just in on the BBC website. They are going to announce who is going to be > the next doctor on a special Confidential at 17.35 saturday evening > > Link here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7807742.stm > > > > > Love & Magic, > -A Well, now I know and all I can say is ?. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor to be announced on BBC tomorrow
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Adrianne Brennan" wrote: > > Just in on the BBC website. They are going to announce who is going to be > the next doctor on a special Confidential at 17.35 saturday evening > > Link here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7807742.stm > > > > > Love & Magic, > -A Thanks for the heads-up. I've got my seat booked for tomorrow. Its a family affair here. When The Doctor is on we all watched. Had to hold off Christmas Dinner so we could watch the special last week. Loved it. Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Majel Roddenberry, wife of 'Trek' creator, dies
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > I liked her when she did a serious episode with Odo on DS9 and on Next Gen > with the guy she fell in love with whose society euthanized elders. Too bad > they always used her for comic relief. That character had so much > unexplored potential Most of the women of Trek had unexplored potential but it seemed for the most part that unless they could be paired with a male any of their other potential was left to the imagination. Trek does not do women well. Its either ultra butch or ultra fem, with very few glimpses of anything in between. They always forget just how strong a female following they have. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Is Airbender Casting Racist?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > Is Airbender Casting Racist? I don't watch Avatar but my daughter does and she isn't happy with what has been done. She feels that its rather stupid to change the race of all the main characters of a show that was built upon cultural lines. Of course, she's only thirteen , so what does she know? Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Depp, Burton in Dark Shadows
Same here. I was watching it recently online line and it occurred to me that there was enough cheese to make a mean toasted sandwich.:) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "marian_changling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was one of those that rushed home to see Dark Shadows also. I > bought the books and the soundtrack. I guess I would have bought the > action figures if there had been such a thing at that time. > > I didn't get into "normal" soap operas. Dark Shadows was a goth soap > opera before goth was in. > > By the way, I tried watching the reruns when they were shown later and > I don't know what drug I was on. They were horrible in a funny way. > > Nevertheless, when someone tried to bring the show back again awhile > back with new actors, there I was glued to the TV again for the second > try. > > I think dark romantic tales about hopeless love will always find > watchers. I liked "Forever Knight" for the same reason. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > Thanks, what's the attraction for "Dark Shadows"? I was probably > around eight or nine when I tried to watch it, and found it to be drab > and a bit morose and depressing in its atmosphere. >
[scifinoir2] Re: Depp, Burton in Dark Shadows
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Depp, Burton in Dark Shadows > > > Goth soap opera movie will be duo's next project. > Oh my, I'm already saving time to see this. This was the show I ran home from school so as not to miss. One of the reasons I got such good grades was because I didn't want to chance having detentions and miss any of the episodes. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Way OT: Interesting Musical Project
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Playing for Change. It's a documentary. This is one song from the film. It starts with one musician in Santa Monica and continues on adding musicians and singers from around the world. It's absolutely amazing so I had to share even though it's off topic > > http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM > > http://www.playingforchange.com/ > Thanks, I've now shared this as well. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Recommend Your Vampire Favorites
I like your picks. I'm not into hunky vampires at all.
Meta
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Like Martin and I said, i'm tiring of the suave, young vampire as
hunk nowadays. I'm also not a real big fan of vampyrs. Nothing against
them, just not in love with the genre. So my list is relatively small:
>
> "Nosferatu" - one of the first and one of the best
> "Dracula" (1931) - Bela Lugosi as the Count. A bit dated and camp,
but still fun to watch
> "Billy the Kid vs. Dracula" -- you read that right! A Western
vampire flick, so horribly bad it's a must-see!
> "Curse of the Undead" - An undead gunslinger-for-hire in the old
West! Watch the priest's shirt button with a cross on it used as a
killer bullet!
> "Dance of the Vampires" (aka "The Fearless Vampire Killers") - Roman
Polanski's comedic take was goofy, entertaining fun
> "Dracula" (1972) - the classic with Peter Cushing as Van Helsing and
Christopher Lee as the Count. Gotta love using the candlesticks to
make a Cross!
> "Blacula" - so bad it's good, Blaxploitation enters the realm of the
Undead
> "Salem's Lot" - the original miniseries. The little vampire boy
floating oustide saying "Mommy, I'm cold" still creeps me out.
> "Fright Night" - another fun movie about vampires, with a good
modern take.
> "The Lost Boys" - the movie's a kick, vamps like some kind of
fun-loving Peter Pans--who just happen to like chewing on necks!
> "Ultraviolet" - the Brit miniseries that took a new (to me) take on
vamps as a misunderstood ethnic group. Good, intelligent, and atmospheric.
> "Blade" and "Blade II" - not like the comic, but good escapist action
>
>
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "tdemorsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> a few days ago, Bosco brought to our attention, a Vampire flick ("Let
> The Right One In") that many of us likely would have missed. Are
> their other gems out there? Please post a list of some of your
> favorite vampire movies and books.
>
> Tracey
>
[scifinoir2] Re: New Star Trek Trailer (Thoughts?)
The more I hear the more this sounds like an AU fan fiction brought to life. I'm just waiting to see if its going to be good fan fiction or not. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Agreed. The parts of the ship were constructed in San Fran, so Iowa makes no sense. if you're going to go that route, the desert would then be the most logical place to build starships. I could see shipyards in arid New Mexico or Arizona. > Yeah, we'll have to see if Abrams' reboot gets the feel right. I'm curious about this rewritten backstory as well, and still can't figure how the crew from the series is brought together at such a young age. It's just illogical. > Wasn't Sulu head of astrophysics at that time? > > -- Original message -- > From: Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Another HUGE problem with assembling the Enterprise on Earth is that not only is it on Earth...It's in IOWA. How convenient. > > > One discussion I had with another guy who runs a movie trailer site is that TOS people are going to have to swallow a really big pill with this story. If you've seen "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before", you know that Spock and Kirk really have no history. Spock was loyal to Pike for many years, and Kirk's best friend was his helmsman when he took over the ship. Sulu was "Chief Mathematician" or some position like that. These details are important, and are basically being ignored. > > > > > On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > We had a long discussion in the last few weeks about a bunch of still shots from the movie, but I don't know that anyone was aware of these new trailers. I certainly wasn't. > > I just watched them and they look great, but i have some questions. JJ Abrams is an amazing action director, and I know the movie will rock in terms of FX, action, and overall look. I just hope that the more solid background of what makes Trek "Trek" is maintained. That is to say, for me, Star Trek has actually never been about the ships, the battles, the gadgets, the special effects. Those are icing to the cake of the people and the purpose of the franchise, which was to explore where humanity might go in the future, and how we'll bring our better selves to a whole new galaxy of discovery. I'm the guy who loves "The Search for Spock" because of its deep exploration of the bonds that made the NCC-1701 crew great (while most think it's a boring flick, preferring the action of "The Wrath of Khan", or the humour of "The Voyage Home"). I remember the conversations and emotional reveals as much as I do the Neck Pinches, Doomsday Machines, and Klingon Battle Cruise rs. I find the early s > hows of the first season of the OS, with their heavy dramatic and emotional content, to be the core of what made Trek work, moreso than later shows with more fights and explosions. Trek to me is "To go where no one has gone before", but it is equally "Because the needs of the *one* outweigh the needs of the many". > > So while I know the film will be quite enjoyable, I'm curious--not doubtful, 'cause many Trek insiders have "vetted" it--but curious as to how much of that emotional heart of Trek Abrams can convey, especially in this odd Early Years take when the crew haven't yet worked together to form those bonds. And I wonder how he'll go from this film to any possible sequels? Will we then jump to the mainstream time of the series, with Kirk in the command chair, Spock as XO, and the rest? If so, then maybe we look at this reboot like the Trek movies 2, 3, and 4, which conveyed, respectively, action, emotion, and humour. In that case, maybe the later films will explore and grow the emotional depth that is Trek. Don't know. > > One final comment. I note that the Enterprise is being built on Earth in the new flick, but the original canon says it was assembled in space. I know Abrams didn't want to do that for some reason, saying they use anti-grav to build it on Earth. Still makes more sense to me to assemble a space ship--in space! And is it me, or does the sight of guys using blowtorches or arc welders in the 23rd century just seem--odd? Surely there'd be more sophisticated ways of assembling vessels than something straight out of a 20th century shipyard, a way to make the metal flow and meld together more seamlessly and efficiently than with sparks flying all over the place? I'd hate to see a warp capable vessel lose a battle or something because some disgruntled union guy didn't use enough solder on a weld in a Jeffries Tube or something! > > > > -- Original message -- >
[scifinoir2] Re: Ford on Indy V
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I never watched the fourth installment of the series. Reviews were mixed, and I tend to get irritated when a Young So-and-So (Indy's son, played by Shia Labeouf) is introduced into a franchise. I also heard the movie had more obvious CGI than previous versions, which is actually against the spirit of what Lucas and Spielberg had done in the past. The best I heard from people who saw it was that "it was entertaining". > Was it any good? I actually liked the Indy parts, but I could have done with out that kid and his tough(?)self. I found nearly every moment he appeared on screen less than ideal. I also thought the ending wasn't of much use to see. It sort of just hung there. I'm still debating about buying it, well actually I'm just waiting until its included in the box set. Meta
[scifinoir2] A night to remember!!!!!!
For the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country. Thank you to America's new FIRST FAMILY!!!! Meta
[scifinoir2] A night to remember!!!!!!
For the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country. Thank you to America's new FIRST FAMILY!!!! Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sorry. I'm taking a wait and see on this one. Mostly because the Doc is a > major sci-fi figures. However, if anyone would do something like this it > would be the BBC (as they have a good track record on putting blacks in > lead/major roles). And Adrian would be the best choice for it. However I can see > lots of (mostly white) yank Who fans heads poping even at the thought of a > black doctor who. > > > -GTW :-) :-( Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Black Dr. Who
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Joseph To Be First Black Doctor? It wasn't him either,but he can well handle the task. Actually there are so many black Brits who could take on the role and work it. I've heard rumors of maybe an American, but I sincerely hope they don't go there. This role is quintessentially Brit. Meta
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who
The guy they talked about wasn't Adrian, but since I'm a great fan of his works, it would do my heart,and eyes good to have him as The Doctor.:-) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The actor they were discussing is Adrian Lester. Adrian Lester as the > Doctor would be incredible. And, quite possible. > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Meta wrote: > > > I think its just that he's had enough of being The Doctor and > > would like to do other things, like theater and so forth. > > I like that he wants to end on a high note instead of beating > > the role to death. It seems a lot easier to escape typecasting > > over the pond. I've seen actors take on so many different roles > > with such ease over here. I think the opportunities here are much > > broader than in the US. btw: one of the actors they were touting > > on the breakfast show on BBC today is a Black guy. I can't remember > > his name, but I've seen him in various things on BBC. I don't actually > > think he'll get the part, but sometimes 'auntie' can surprise. > > > > Meta > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: > > > > > > He'd have to turn blonde not to be seen as "hey! it's the Doctor!" > > > from now on. It's too late. Chris was able to get away with being in > > > "Heroes", but Chris wasn't the most popular Doctor. Patrick Stewart > > > should sit him down and ;et him know that three more years in the > > > TARDIS may drive him crazy, but it won't ruin his career. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > Daryle, maybe he's trying to get away from being typecast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who > > > > > > > > Date : Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:28:28 -0400 > > > > > > > > From : Daryle Lockhart > > > > > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > His last show will probably be the most watched episode in the > > > > history of science fiction. If he's not leaving to be the new Q in > > > > the James Bond movies, I don't know what would possess him to > > leave. > > > > > > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > > > > > >> I had this sad news through another of my groups this morning. > > Let > > > >> me be the first to thank Mr Tennant for his great work, and the > > > >> first to pose the question, "Who replaces him?" > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > >> > > > >> Subject : [scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who > > > >> > > > >> Date : Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:52:18 -0400 > > > >> > > > >> From : Daryle Lockhart > > > >> > > > >> To : SciFi Noir > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> David Tennant has announced that he is vacating the Tardis and > > > >> leaving the BBC's Doctor Who series at the end of next year. > > > >> > > > >> Tennant's decision brings to an end his popular four-year > > tenure as > > > >> the time lord. > > > >> > > > >> The BBC confirmed that the Scottish actor will complete the > > filming > > > >> of four special episodes to be screened this year and in early > > 2010, > > > >> as well as 2009's Christmas special. > > > >> > > > >> Tennant broke the news of his departure at the National > > Television > > > >> Awards as he accepted the outstanding drama performance prize. He > > > >> said: "When Doctor Who returns in 2010 it won't be with me. > > The 2009 > > > >> shows will be my last playing the doctor. > > > >> > > > >> "If I don't take a deep breath and move on now, I never will." > > > >> > > > >> Speaking about his time on the show, Tennant added: "It has > > been the > > > >> most brilliant and life-changing time. But it's not over yet, > > I have > > > >> a whole other year to go. > > > >> > > > >> "Thank you for being so enthusiastic about the show, for > > watching it, > > > >> and loving it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who
I think its just that he's had enough of being The Doctor and would like to do other things, like theater and so forth. I like that he wants to end on a high note instead of beating the role to death. It seems a lot easier to escape typecasting over the pond. I've seen actors take on so many different roles with such ease over here. I think the opportunities here are much broader than in the US. btw: one of the actors they were touting on the breakfast show on BBC today is a Black guy. I can't remember his name, but I've seen him in various things on BBC. I don't actually think he'll get the part, but sometimes 'auntie' can surprise. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He'd have to turn blonde not to be seen as "hey! it's the Doctor!" > from now on. It's too late. Chris was able to get away with being in > "Heroes", but Chris wasn't the most popular Doctor. Patrick Stewart > should sit him down and ;et him know that three more years in the > TARDIS may drive him crazy, but it won't ruin his career. > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Daryle, maybe he's trying to get away from being typecast. > > > > > > > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > > > Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who > > > > Date : Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:28:28 -0400 > > > > From : Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > His last show will probably be the most watched episode in the > > history of science fiction. If he's not leaving to be the new Q in > > the James Bond movies, I don't know what would possess him to leave. > > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > >> I had this sad news through another of my groups this morning. Let > >> me be the first to thank Mr Tennant for his great work, and the > >> first to pose the question, "Who replaces him?" > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > >> > >> Subject : [scifinoir2] Tennant to quit Dr Who > >> > >> Date : Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:52:18 -0400 > >> > >> From : Daryle Lockhart > >> > >> To : SciFi Noir > >> > >> > >> David Tennant has announced that he is vacating the Tardis and > >> leaving the BBC's Doctor Who series at the end of next year. > >> > >> Tennant's decision brings to an end his popular four-year tenure as > >> the time lord. > >> > >> The BBC confirmed that the Scottish actor will complete the filming > >> of four special episodes to be screened this year and in early 2010, > >> as well as 2009's Christmas special. > >> > >> Tennant broke the news of his departure at the National Television > >> Awards as he accepted the outstanding drama performance prize. He > >> said: "When Doctor Who returns in 2010 it won't be with me. The 2009 > >> shows will be my last playing the doctor. > >> > >> "If I don't take a deep breath and move on now, I never will." > >> > >> Speaking about his time on the show, Tennant added: "It has been the > >> most brilliant and life-changing time. But it's not over yet, I have > >> a whole other year to go. > >> > >> "Thank you for being so enthusiastic about the show, for watching it, > >> and loving it." > > >
[scifinoir2] Re: Another Option For Watching Shows Online
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tvcorn.com/ > > Bosco > Thank you much. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Will America Watch Watchmen?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Meta: > > I relate. While living in Mexico, even though I was only one country over, > I felt disconnected... particularly from Scifi TV and movies > > I can't remember where you live. Is it the Netherlands? > Yes, I live in the Netherlands. I'm lucky to be able to find a lot of the shows mentioned here on Surf The Channel. While I have the time I go there and watch the shows and movies. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Will America Watch Watchmen?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In perfect honesty, the more I hear about it through ads and discussions > in all of the SF groups I'm in, the *less* I want to see it. When it's > released, I'll probably break out my trade and read it through. > I'm reading this now. I'd never heard of it until it was mentioned here. Living outside for so long I find I did/do miss a lot of interesting stuff out there. I'm so glad I joined this group. Thanks All. Anyway, from what I've read so far of Watchmen I just don't see how it can be done as live action. Seems to me that what works in comic form rarely translate when real people are involved. I'm so glad you guys get to test the waters before I do.:-) Meta
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What exactly does the term 'cougar' mean? I just saw this on a story on Yahoo about older women/younger men couples and. I've never heard the term before. Is there a older men/younger women equivalent? Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess the next Catwoman will be a cougar. Sorry, couldn't resist. i > guess Madonna was too busy for the role. Ok, I'll stop now. > > I guess Nolan will have a different take than the traditional > Catwoman. The sexual tension between the two will definitely have > very different overtones than other portrayals. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "moondancerdrake" > wrote: > > > > Cher's 63 and last I saw of her on one of those great stage outfits > > she's looks 30 so to many she still counts as hot. Considering the > > effort made by the entertainment industry and the media to paint > > older woman as used up and undesirable, I'd love to see her get a > > chance to do this role. I'd also love to have a body like hers now, > > much less in my 60s. > > > > Moondancer > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" wrote: > > > > > > Dude, Catwoman is supposed to be hot...Julie Newmar, Eartha Kitt, > > > Michelle Pfeiffer, Halle Berry...Hello! And Cher is like, what, > 100 > > > years old? I know Estelle Getty just passed away but weren't any > > of > > > the other Golden Girls were available? > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco wrote: > > > > > > > > I was wondering why there was such a strong reaction against > Cher > > > by some folks on the list? > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, StreetForce1 wrote: > > > > From: StreetForce1 > > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Cher's the Next Catwoman? > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent to you by StreetForce1 via Google Reader: > > > > > > > > > > > > Cher's the Next Catwoman? > > > > via Celebrity gossip juicy celebrity rumors Hollywood gossip > blog > > > from Perez Hilton by Perez Hilton on 8/25/08 > > > > > > > > > > > > We thought this was a joke, but The Telegraph is a respected > > > newspaper. > > > > According to the UK's Telegraph, Academy Award-winner and music > > > icon Cher is in talks to play Catwoman opposite Christian Bale in > > the > > > third installment of the revamped Batman film franchise. > > > > A studio executive reportedly said, > > > > "Cher is Nolan's (director) first choice to play Catwoman. He > > > wants to her to portray her like a vamp in her twilight years. > The > > > new Catwoman will be the absolute opposite of Michelle Pfeiffer > and > > > Halle Berry's purring creations." > > > > > > > > Crazy! > > > > What do U think about Cher as Catwoman? > > > > [Image via WENN.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Things you can do from here: > > > > Subscribe to Celebrity gossip juicy celebrity rumors Hollywood > > > gossip blog from Perez Hilton using Google Reader > > > > Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your > > > favorite sites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[scifinoir2] Re: Is Watchmen in Trouble?
I'll second this, and usually I don't do self pain at all.:-) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I beg you to go right now at this moment, no matter what else is going on, and rent or buy V for Vendetta. If you are disappointed, I will hit myself in the head with a rock. > > Bosco > > --- On Thu, 8/21/08, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Is Watchmen in Trouble? > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 6:57 AM > > Keith, I ahven't seen "V for Vendetta" yet. "From Hell" ranks as one of my favorites. >
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That's pretty impressive, especially when you realize that Black people can't float(?). That is the explanation a swimming instructor gave a black friend of mine for why my friend's son was finding it hard to float on his back, while learning to swim. According to this instructor and a white co-worker of my friend, this is a scientific fact. I haven't bothered to follow up on this claim, as I see it as a stupid waste of time. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Wow, the US won gold in mens 4x100 freestyle and set a new world record. Michael Phelps' quest for greatness continues. That's all well and good, but what really caught my eye was when i noticed a Black man on the team! Not being a fan of swimming, I know nothing about who's who in that world, but of course i ran off to Google to see who the Brother was. Turns out his name is Cullen Jones, who is a rising star in the swimming world. Seems he set a US record for the 50 m recently. Nike was so impressed with him (and the novelty of an Olympic level Black swimmer, I imagine) they signed him to a two million dollar contract--the most ever given to a short-distance swimmer! I'd guess he's on the way to becoming the most successful black swimmer in our country at least. > Below is a Wikipedia article on Jones, following that is the story on him and his team's dramatic gold-medal win over France tonight... > ** > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cullen_Jones > He trains with David Marsh at the Center of Excellence at Mecklenburg Aquatic Club in Charlotte, NC. > He burst onto the international swimming scene at the 2006 Pan Pacific Championships[3] in Victoria, BC. He was a student athlete at North Carolina State University and is majoring in English with a minor in Psychology. In the summer of 2006, he became a professional swimmer after signing with Nike.[4] > At the 2006 Pan Pacific Championships he set a meet record in the 50m Freestyle with a time of 21.84. He also swam a leg (split of 47.96) in the world record breaking 4x100 m Freestyle Relay along with Michael Phelps, Jason Lezak and Neil Walker. He also got a gold medal in 4x100 m Freestyle Relay with the same teammates in 2007 World Aquatics Championships > Jones is the first African-American to hold or share a world record (4x100 Freestyle Relay) in swimming[citation needed]. He is also the third African-American to make the US Olympic swimming team after Anthony Ervin and Maritza Correia. At the 2008 Olympic swimming trials, Jones broke the American record in the 50 meter freestyle with a time of 21.59. The record was subsequently broken the next day by Garrett Weber-Gale. In the 2008 Olympic games in Beijing, he won the gold medal in the 4x100m freestyle relay in a world record time of 3:08.24. > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/sports/olympics/11phelpsweb.html?_r=1&oref=slogin > Michael Phelps won his second gold medal of the 2008 Games on Monday, with a victory by the United States in the 4x100 freestyle relay. The United States finished first in a world record of 3:08.24, with France taking silver and Australia getting bronze. > The U.S. relay team had felt strong entering the race, after a world-record performance by the B team in the heats on Sunday night. The Americans Nathan Adrian, Cullen Jones, Ben Wildman-Tobriner and Matt Grevers finished the freestyle relay in 3:12.23 seconds, 0.23 seconds faster than the world record set two years ago at the Pan-Pacific Championships by the United States A team. > At the United States trials in July, Jason Lezak, Garrett Weber-Gale and Phelps posted sub-48 second swims, a feat matched this year by only two other swimmers, Bernard and Australia's Eamon Sullivan. > Lezak, Weber-Gale and Phelps sat out the preliminaries to conserve energy. In what proved to be a competition within the competition, the four Americans who did swim were essentially racing one another for the privilege to team with Lezak, Weber-Gale and Phelps. > Cullen Jones, a Bronx native who grew up in New Jersey, won the honors by clocking the fastest split, a 47.61 on the second leg. Adrian led off with a 48.82, Wildman-Tobriner had a 48.03 and Grevers anchored the team in 47.77. It was otherwise a fruitful day for Grevers, who also broke the Olympic record in the heats of the 100-meter backstroke. > The United States had never lost the 4x100 freestyle relay at an Olympics until 2000, when they were upset by Australia. In Athens four years later, the Americans again failed to win, finishing third behind South Africa which returns its victorious team intact and the Netherlands. > Returning the Olympic crown to the States is a high priority, Phelps said. "A couple of days ago we had a guys-only meeting where we shared some stories going back and forth about the hopes we have for this meet," he said. >
[scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET
Yes, I know he was referring to Criminal Minds. I liked Dead Like Me. I hope they do bring it back. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think Keith was commenting on another Mandy Patikin show, Criminal Minds, not Dead Like Me. > > Perhaps Keith can clear that up. I don't remember any rapes, abductions, torture or dismembering on Dead Like Me. It was dark but it wasn't that dark. > > B > > --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: > > > > > > the couple of shows I saw were a bit...disturbing. A lot of > > aductions, desmemberings, kidnappings and torturing and rapes. It > > seemed to deal with the sickest of the sick, and women were often the > > victims. Made me a bit queasy > > > > > > > > > > I know what you mean. Being a Mandy fan, I decided to check this > > show out, I think I managed to watch about 10 mins. and couldn't > > take it anymore. Way to dark for me. > > > > Meta > > > > -- Original message -- > > > From: Bosco Bosco ironpigs3@ ..> > > > Thanks. I knew the name, I just couldn't think of it. I liked it ok > > when I saw it. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Martin truthseeker_ 013@ wrote: > > > From: Martin truthseeker_ 013@ > > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 7:47 PM > > > > > > Bosco, that show was "Criminal Minds". The ladies here must be > > asleep, not to know a Shemar show... > > > > > > Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: He was out of the Dead > > Like Me Movie because of other commitments, a network crime show who's > > name escapes me. If the series gets a green light for rebirth, he is > > rumored to be returning. he's off the network crime show so it's seems > > at least plausible that they may bring it back > > > > > > B > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Tracey de Morsella &lt;tdlists@ multicultur > > aladvantage. com&gt; wrote: > > > > > > From: Tracey de Morsella &lt;tdlists@ multicultur aladvantage. > > com&gt; > > > > > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 10:09 AM > > > > > > What is up with him and his imploding or disappearing on shows and > > plays. > > > > > > He is a great talent, but he struggles to stick with stuff. I can > > think of > > > > > > 3 or 4 shows that happened with and I remember reading that it > > happened with > > > > > > a few plays as well > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogro > > ups.com] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Bosco Bosco > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:31 AM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > > > > > I believe Mandy Patikin will be absent but other than that, we get > > everyone > > > > > > back. > > > > > > B > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, ravenadal &amp;lt; ravenadal@ yahoo. > > com&amp; gt; wrote: > > > > > > From: ravenadal &amp;lt; ravenadal@ yahoo. com&amp; gt; > > > > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 6:26 AM > > > > > > Will the entire cast be in the movie? I am particularly fond of > > > > > > Jasmine Guy's performance as the perpetually sour meter maid. > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Bosco Bosco > > &amp;lt; ironpigs3@ . ..&amp;gt; >
[scifinoir2] Re: Fwd: Fw: CORN STARCH
Neat, but did you know that if you mix cornstarch and white glue you end up with cold porcelain clay? Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "brent wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >This is from the Ellen show and is very > >interesting: > > > >> > CORN STARCH > >> > > >> > > >> > I knew corn starch had a weird consistency but never in my wildest > >> > dreams did I think one could do this. > >> > Watch, even if you don't like Ellen > >> > > >> > > > http://Ellen.warnerbros.com/2008/02/steve_spangler_do_not_try_this.php > >> > >
[scifinoir2] Re: frivilous doctor who gossip
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "marian_changling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gossip from a DW list > > > >> I finally got a chance to see this episode of SciFi Friday night. Is > >> "Doctor Who" in danger of becoming the "Law and Order" of Great > >> Britain? Will Jenny get her own series? Doctor Who already has 2 > >> "descendent" series.(Not that I am complaining, given the state of > >> SF television over here in the States.) > > > >If I were a bookmaker I'd offer even odds on "Jenny Who" going to series. > > > >Returning in a later episode of DW? I wouldn't be taking bets! > > Showbiz gossip: Georgia Moffett, who played Jenny, is the real-life > daughter of Peter Davison who played the Fifth Doctor. Furthermore > while filming "The Doctor's Daughter" she and David Tennant became > quite close, to the point that they are dating seriously now. > > So in a sense the Doctor is dating his daughter, a few regenerations > removed. >:) > E, now did you REALLY have to go there.:-) Meta
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--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > the couple of shows I saw were a bit...disturbing. A lot of aductions, desmemberings, kidnappings and torturing and rapes. It seemed to deal with the sickest of the sick, and women were often the victims. Made me a bit queasy > > I know what you mean. Being a Mandy fan, I decided to check this show out, I think I managed to watch about 10 mins. and couldn't take it anymore. Way to dark for me. Meta -- Original message -- > From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks. I knew the name, I just couldn't think of it. I liked it ok when I saw it. > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 7:47 PM > > Bosco, that show was "Criminal Minds". The ladies here must be asleep, not to know a Shemar show... > > Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: He was out of the Dead Like Me Movie because of other commitments, a network crime show who's name escapes me. If the series gets a green light for rebirth, he is rumored to be returning. he's off the network crime show so it's seems at least plausible that they may bring it back > > B > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com> wrote: > > From: Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com> > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 10:09 AM > > What is up with him and his imploding or disappearing on shows and plays. > > He is a great talent, but he struggles to stick with stuff. I can think of > > 3 or 4 shows that happened with and I remember reading that it happened with > > a few plays as well > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com] On > > Behalf Of Bosco Bosco > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:31 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > I believe Mandy Patikin will be absent but other than that, we get everyone > > back. > > B > > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, ravenadal &lt;ravenadal@ yahoo. com&gt; wrote: > > From: ravenadal &lt;ravenadal@ yahoo. com&gt; > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dead Like Me on HDNET > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 6:26 AM > > Will the entire cast be in the movie? I am particularly fond of > > Jasmine Guy's performance as the perpetually sour meter maid. > > ~rave! > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Bosco Bosco &lt;ironpigs3@ . ..&gt; > > wrote: > > &gt; > > &gt; It's a direct to DVD release due next month I think. I heard Ellen > > Muth was saying there is a possibility of a series return. > > &gt; > > &gt; I loved this and Wonder Falls. > > &gt; > > &gt; B > > &gt; > > &gt; --- On Mon, 6/9/08, Tracey de Morsella &lt;tdlists@ ... &gt; wrote: > > &gt; From: Tracey de Morsella &lt;tdlists@ ... &gt; > > &gt; Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Dead Like Me on HDNET > > &gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > &gt; Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 11:27 PM > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; I think a movie is coming out soon > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; -Original Message- > > &gt; > > &gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogro > > ups.com] On > > &gt; > > &gt; Behalf Of ravenadal > > &gt; > > &gt; Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:47 PM > > &gt; > > &gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > &gt; > > &gt; Subject: [scifinoir2] Dead Like Me on HDNET > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; I just finished watching an episode of "Dead Like Me" on HDNET. Man, > > &gt; > > &gt; I love this show! > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; ~rave! > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; - - -- > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; > > &gt; Yahoo! Groups Links > > &gt; > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > - - -- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[scifinoir2] Re: *Still* Confident in My Manhood - My SATC Experience
Ha Ha, good one. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Keith, this is hilarious. Your reportage is so spot on, I felt like > I was there! I will not be spending first run money to see "Sex" > because I don't believe you should have to pay for "Sex." I will > wait until "Sex" is free (or, at the very least, inexpensive). > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > > > MY SATC Experience > > > > This past weekend, as payback for our seeing Iron Man (twice) and > Narnia, and after countless successful attempts at avoiding going to > see "Made of Honor", I finally had to give in to my wife, and go see > a movie of *her* choosing. The movie we went to see? Well, let me > give you a hint: it didn't have fedora-sporting action heroes or > psycho murderers. It had nothing to do with space aliens or > superheroes. After all, it was her turn to pick the movie, and I > knew what would be on the bill. Indeed, as we drove around Atlanta on > Saturday, enjoying the sunny day, I didn't even bother *asking* "Do > you want to see a movie?" let alone, "What movie do you want to see?" > > > > We both knew what was on the agenda: the inevitable, inescapable > call of the quartet of saucy\crazy\messed > up\dysfunctional\emotionally stunted women who make up "Sex and the > City". She knew, I knew it, so rather than waste words I just drove > for the theatre, going to meet my fate like a man trudging from the > death house to the gas chamber. > > > > So to the death house I went, dropping my wife off, watching her > bound eagerly from the car like a gazelle, while I tried to find a > parking spotno easy feat given that the whole city of Atlanta seemed > to be there. > > > > Walking longingly past the posters of Downey in his high tech armor > (hey good that movie's good enough to see a third time!) I entered a > theatre packed with hordes of excited women. And I mean hordes. They > were everywhere: young women, old women, women in small groups, women > in large groups, all chattering excitedly. White women, Latin > women, and surprisingly to me for a show with no Black star outside > of Blair Underwood's brief stintlots and lots of black women, also > chattering excitedly. > > > > And yes, there were men too, though they were outnumbered a good > four or five to one, from what I saw. But they were there, some dudes > like me, with looks of resignation or desperation on their faces, > some with looks of profound boredom, hanging on to the arm of their > excitedly chattering mate. There were a fair number of older dudes > who seemed pretty much okay with their fates. (Guess when you've been > married since the Cold War, compromise is a way of life). About the > only guys I saw who really seemed to *want* to be there were those > who'd come in groups with othermen, and they were chattering > excitedly amongst themselves every bit as much as the women. > > > > The oddest thing to me, a non-fan, was the way some women were > dressed: there were women dressed up in near formal wear, as if > going out to a fancy dinner. There were lots of young girls (many of > the black ones), in serious party clothes: short skirts, exposed > midriffs, bright colors, lots of makeup. At first I honestly thought > that some kind of photo shoot or marketing event was going on. But > no, looking around I realized this was all about "Sex and the City" > and its dedication to fashion. I watched enough of the series to know > that the main star was known for her love of fashion, especially > shoes, and that the clothes the women wore were often as much a part > of the show as the characters themselves. So no, no model photo > shoot, no radio station sponsored clothing contest, just a bunch of > excited women paying homage to a show they love. Kinda like dress up > at a midnight showing of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, just with > better fashion, and no burnt toast. > > > > Inside, the movie experience itself was a trip. The first half > hour, as Carrie and the love of her life Big (the big nosed dude from > Law and Order's early days) talked about getting married, was really > slow to me. Lots of bad one-liners, characters making *sure* they > portrayed their clichéd selves to the hilt: the nympho, the uptight > lawyer, the Pollyanna, the I-can't-live-without-Big. Nothing super > clever or earth-shattering taking place, just more of the same old- > same old
[scifinoir2] Re: *Still* Confident in My Manhood - My SATC Experience
I loved your review. I have to admit that I'm more eager to see Iron Man then SATC. I have watched the show some, but after a bit, all of them made me just want to scream. I'm just not that crazy about superficial suffering, plus they get on my nerves with all that fashion stuff.:-) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > MY SATC Experience > > This past weekend, as payback for our seeing Iron Man (twice) and Narnia, and after countless successful attempts at avoiding going to see "Made of Honor", I finally had to give in to my wife, and go see a movie of *her* choosing. The movie we went to see? Well, let me give you a hint: it didn't have fedora-sporting action heroes or psycho murderers. It had nothing to do with space aliens or superheroes. After all, it was her turn to pick the movie, and I knew what would be on the bill. Indeed, as we drove around Atlanta on Saturday, enjoying the sunny day, I didn't even bother *asking* "Do you want to see a movie?" let alone, "What movie do you want to see?" > > We both knew what was on the agenda: the inevitable, inescapable call of the quartet of saucy\crazy\messed up\dysfunctional\emotionally stunted women who make up "Sex and the City". She knew, I knew it, so rather than waste words I just drove for the theatre, going to meet my fate like a man trudging from the death house to the gas chamber. > > So to the death house I went, dropping my wife off, watching her bound eagerly from the car like a gazelle, while I tried to find a parking spotno easy feat given that the whole city of Atlanta seemed to be there. > > Walking longingly past the posters of Downey in his high tech armor (hey good that movie's good enough to see a third time!) I entered a theatre packed with hordes of excited women. And I mean hordes. They were everywhere: young women, old women, women in small groups, women in large groups, all chattering excitedly. White women, Latin women, and surprisingly to me for a show with no Black star outside of Blair Underwood's brief stintlots and lots of black women, also chattering excitedly. > > And yes, there were men too, though they were outnumbered a good four or five to one, from what I saw. But they were there, some dudes like me, with looks of resignation or desperation on their faces, some with looks of profound boredom, hanging on to the arm of their excitedly chattering mate. There were a fair number of older dudes who seemed pretty much okay with their fates. (Guess when you've been married since the Cold War, compromise is a way of life). About the only guys I saw who really seemed to *want* to be there were those who'd come in groups with othermen, and they were chattering excitedly amongst themselves every bit as much as the women. > > The oddest thing to me, a non-fan, was the way some women were dressed: there were women dressed up in near formal wear, as if going out to a fancy dinner. There were lots of young girls (many of the black ones), in serious party clothes: short skirts, exposed midriffs, bright colors, lots of makeup. At first I honestly thought that some kind of photo shoot or marketing event was going on. But no, looking around I realized this was all about "Sex and the City" and its dedication to fashion. I watched enough of the series to know that the main star was known for her love of fashion, especially shoes, and that the clothes the women wore were often as much a part of the show as the characters themselves. So no, no model photo shoot, no radio station sponsored clothing contest, just a bunch of excited women paying homage to a show they love. Kinda like dress up at a midnight showing of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, just with better fashion, and no burnt toast. > > Inside, the movie experience itself was a trip. The first half hour, as Carrie and the love of her life Big (the big nosed dude from Law and Order's early days) talked about getting married, was really slow to me. Lots of bad one-liners, characters making *sure* they portrayed their clichéd selves to the hilt: the nympho, the uptight lawyer, the Pollyanna, the I-can't-live-without-Big. Nothing super clever or earth-shattering taking place, just more of the same old-same old from the series, from what I could tell. > > And yet, while bored out of my gourd, I noticed that everyone around me was really enjoying it. The smallest joke would bring guffaws of laughter, the most predictable plot devices elicited "oohs" and "he ain't worth it!" from all over the theatre. At one point in the early going, when I was already wondering if I could take another two hours of recycled jokes and predictable plotting, I took at look the people around me. Everywhere, everyone was sitting transfixed, eyes straight ahead a
[scifinoir2] Re: Doctor Who: Planet of the Ood
I'm with you on this. I've always liked that we are used in a matter of fact way in this show, which is one reason why I like watching them with my children. They get to see that we're not super bad nor super good, just regular folk. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought about the fact the black man was the principal slave driver > and the Indian woman was both a collaborator and an apologist for a > clearly corrupt business enterprise. And it occurred to me that it > didn't bother me because of the matter-of-fact way minorities are > integrated into these stories. > > I think of another of my favorite "Who" episodes - the one where the > Dyleks are using depression era humans to build the Empire State > Building - where the leader of the Central Park squatter's camp and > the most heroic and moral person in the episode is a black man. > > It is this even-handedness that makes me a fan of the latest > incarnation of the good doctor. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Mohareb" > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:37 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > Diana: "Being with you I can't tell what's right or wrong anymore." > > > > > > Doctor: "It's better that way." > > > > Psst. Donna. > > > I am not a fan of Catherine Tate, a big horsey woman who sort of > > > clumps around eating scenery. That said, I found "The Planet of the > > > Ood" to be both a great episode and a trenchant meditation on the > > > nature of slavery - a pretty amazing accomplishment in a 50 minute > > > teleplay. > > > > > > There were several elements about this episode that I found appealing. > > > As usual, I like the multicultural cast which included both a black > > > man and an Indian woman in prominent roles. I liked the Ood, a race > > > of peace loving octopi-heads who have been enslaved in a particularly > > > diabolical way. > > > > Were there any thoughts on the fact the black character in this was > > the slave driver of the piece? > > > > JJ Mohareb > > > > -- > > Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. > > http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com > > >
[scifinoir2] Re: Doctor Who
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Surf The Channel has last nights ep. 'The Doctor's Daughter' uploaded. http://www.surfthechannel.com/ Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: `Star Wars' kid Abrams aims to reinvent `Trek' world
I feel your pain.:-)
I always found it rather crazy that the most devout fans
of IDIC, could go all postal with anyone who dared to use
"Trekkie". I figure there is worst things to be called.:-)
Meta
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> i know of just as many older fans who prefer "Trekkie" myself
included (been watching faithfully for 36 years) but as you so, it's
not the most important thing around. it's only when I say "Trekkie"
and get attacked that I take umbrage.
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Meta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> In early Trekdom the term "Trekkie" was well used by the media
> whenever they did a usually not flattering story about
> Trek fans, so many older fans preferred to be called
> "Trekker" over the other name. Having been a Trek fan
> from day one I still prefer "Trekker" That said I really
> don't care what name is used.
>
> Meta
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin wrote:
> >
> > It changed back, Keith? A few years ago, I used "Trekkie" and got my
> head bitten off by someone who *insisted* on "Trekker".
> >
> > KeithBJohnson@ wrote: i hear Nimoy was pleased, so I'll keep an
> open mind.
> > By the way, Mr. Abrams, it's "Trekkie", not "Trekker".
> >
> > -- Original message --
> > From: "ravenadal"
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_en_mo/film_star_trek
> >
> > By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterThu May 1, 7:28 AM ET
> >
> > J.J. Abrams grew up more a fan of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo than of
> > James Kirk and his Vulcan buddy Spock. So why is a self-professed
> > "Star Wars" kid directing "Star Trek"?
> >
> > "It was an opportunity to take what I think has been a maligned world
> > to sound crass, a franchise and treat it in a way that made it
> > something that I wanted to see," said Abrams, who recently finished
> > shooting on "Star Trek," due in theaters May 8, 2009. "To take the
> > characters, the thoughtfulness, the personalities, the sense of
> > adventure, the idea of humanity working together, the sense of social
> > commentary and innovation, all that stuff. To take it and apply it in
> > a way that felt genuinely thrilling."
> >
> > Abrams, creator of TV's "Lost" and "Alias" whose big-screen credits
> > include "Mission: Impossible III," shared some "Trek" thoughts with
> > The Associated Press in an interview to promote the DVD release of his
> > monster movie "Cloverfield."
> >
> > While he enjoyed the TV show about Capt. Kirk, First Officer Spock and
> > their Enterprise crew mates, Abrams said he was not a rabid fan.
> >
> > In this age of make-or-break opening weekends, the revival of the
> > franchise seven years after the last movie ("Star Trek: Nemesis")
> > flopped may depend on introducing a new generation to the exploits of
> > the 23rd century explorers rather than just hooking old fans.
> >
> > "The whole point was to try to make this movie for fans of movies, not
> > fans of `Star Trek,' necessarily,'" Abrams said. "If you're a fan,
> > we've got one of the writers who's a devout Trekker, so we were able
> > to make sure we were serving the people who are completely enamored
> > with `Star Trek.' But we are not making the movie for that contingent
> > alone.
> >
> > "You can't really make a movie for them. As soon as you start to guess
> > what you think they are going to want to see, you're in trouble. You
> > have to make the movie in many ways for what you want to see yourself,
> > make a movie you believe in. Then you're not second-guessing an
> > audience you don't really have an understanding of."
> >
> > After the 1960s TV show went off the air, it remained alive in
> > syndication, and the original cast led by William Shatner as Kirk and
> > Leonard Nimoy as Spock was reunited for six big-screen movies.
> >
> > Four more movies followed starring Patrick Stewart and the cast of the
> > 1980s and '90s update "Star Trek: The Next Generation," while the
> > "Trek" universe expanded to include three other TV series.
> >
> > Abrams' "Star Trek" takes the franchise back to its beginning, with a
> > young cast re-creating the Enterprise crew: C
[scifinoir2] Re: `Star Wars' kid Abrams aims to reinvent `Trek' world
In early Trekdom the term "Trekkie" was well used by the media
whenever they did a usually not flattering story about
Trek fans, so many older fans preferred to be called
"Trekker" over the other name. Having been a Trek fan
from day one I still prefer "Trekker" That said I really
don't care what name is used.
Meta
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It changed back, Keith? A few years ago, I used "Trekkie" and got my
head bitten off by someone who *insisted* on "Trekker".
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear Nimoy was pleased, so I'll keep an
open mind.
> By the way, Mr. Abrams, it's "Trekkie", not "Trekker".
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "ravenadal"
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_en_mo/film_star_trek
>
> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterThu May 1, 7:28 AM ET
>
> J.J. Abrams grew up more a fan of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo than of
> James Kirk and his Vulcan buddy Spock. So why is a self-professed
> "Star Wars" kid directing "Star Trek"?
>
> "It was an opportunity to take what I think has been a maligned world
> to sound crass, a franchise and treat it in a way that made it
> something that I wanted to see," said Abrams, who recently finished
> shooting on "Star Trek," due in theaters May 8, 2009. "To take the
> characters, the thoughtfulness, the personalities, the sense of
> adventure, the idea of humanity working together, the sense of social
> commentary and innovation, all that stuff. To take it and apply it in
> a way that felt genuinely thrilling."
>
> Abrams, creator of TV's "Lost" and "Alias" whose big-screen credits
> include "Mission: Impossible III," shared some "Trek" thoughts with
> The Associated Press in an interview to promote the DVD release of his
> monster movie "Cloverfield."
>
> While he enjoyed the TV show about Capt. Kirk, First Officer Spock and
> their Enterprise crew mates, Abrams said he was not a rabid fan.
>
> In this age of make-or-break opening weekends, the revival of the
> franchise seven years after the last movie ("Star Trek: Nemesis")
> flopped may depend on introducing a new generation to the exploits of
> the 23rd century explorers rather than just hooking old fans.
>
> "The whole point was to try to make this movie for fans of movies, not
> fans of `Star Trek,' necessarily,'" Abrams said. "If you're a fan,
> we've got one of the writers who's a devout Trekker, so we were able
> to make sure we were serving the people who are completely enamored
> with `Star Trek.' But we are not making the movie for that contingent
> alone.
>
> "You can't really make a movie for them. As soon as you start to guess
> what you think they are going to want to see, you're in trouble. You
> have to make the movie in many ways for what you want to see yourself,
> make a movie you believe in. Then you're not second-guessing an
> audience you don't really have an understanding of."
>
> After the 1960s TV show went off the air, it remained alive in
> syndication, and the original cast led by William Shatner as Kirk and
> Leonard Nimoy as Spock was reunited for six big-screen movies.
>
> Four more movies followed starring Patrick Stewart and the cast of the
> 1980s and '90s update "Star Trek: The Next Generation," while the
> "Trek" universe expanded to include three other TV series.
>
> Abrams' "Star Trek" takes the franchise back to its beginning, with a
> young cast re-creating the Enterprise crew: Chris Pine as Kirk,
> Zachary Quinto as Spock, Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, Simon Pegg as
> engineer Scott, John Cho as helmsman Sulu, Zoe Saldana as
> communications officer Uhura and Anton Yelchin as navigator Chekov.
>
> "It's a chance to see what Kirk and Spock would look like done now,"
> Abrams said. "What's thrilling about it is how great the cast is, how
> remarkably talented and funny and just spot-on they all are."
>
> Nimoy also reprises his role as the older Spock, though Shatner
> whose Kirk was killed at the end of the seventh movie, "Star Trek:
> Generations" does not appear.
>
> Abrams would not share plot details, saying only that the movie would
> remain faithful to the original while breaking new ground in action,
> drama and visual effects, which are being crafted by "Star Wars"
> creator George Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic outfit.
>
> "I feel like t
[scifinoir2] A follow-up book -Re: OT: "African American Lives 2" on PBS
Here is a link to the site of William Loren Katz. He is the author of a book called, 'Black Indians: A Hidden Heritage'. I read this book about twenty years ago. http://www.williamlkatz.com/ The book is still available at Amazon. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I wonder how many Natives owned slaves? I used to think they there was this--brotherhood--between Blacks and Natives, as we fought against a common enemy. So many of us have Native blood, after all. And there's so many stories of mixed blood people who became great explorers, lawmen, or soldiers. But i hear more about them enslaving us, and read bout things like the recent push for some tribes to deny people with African heritige membership in the tribe. Makes me wonder... > > What's the deal with Gates' website? > > -- Original message -- > From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Don Cheadle story was really interesting. I live in a county just > outside of Charlotte that was Indian Land for a very very long time after > slavery. I am now curious as to whether or not the tribes that lived here > owned slaves. > > This series is great family viewing, and even though it's on in February, > it's refreshing. I also think it could be a great way to drive traffic to > Dr. Gates' new website, but I didn't see a mention of it during the show. > > On 2/6/08 10:59 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Tonight I watched âAfrican American Lives 2â°, the PBS special in which Henry > > âSkipâ° Gates does genealogical history for several stars. Gotta admit, I was > > a little doubtful about the show this time around. Not the concept, which is > > cool. I was thinking that watching the lives of the rich and famous would > > leave me a bit cold. "Give this chance to more of us regular folk, I thought. > > The rich folk have enough money to get this done on their own". But I have to > > say it moved me. Putting aside their celebrity and just seeing them as Black > > people like meËwith hopes and dreams and sad and glorious stories in their > > pastsËI was really able to get into it. Skip Gates digs up some amazing > > history on the ancestry of these stars (and one âregularâ° person chosen for > > the show). The people are often moved to tears as they find out about > > ancestors who were state senators, donated land for schools to be built, were > > owned by Natives, fought in the Civil War, etc. The biggest shock of all is > > Tom Joyne > > r, who discovers that two of his uncles were electrocuted in South Carolina > > for a crime they didnât commit, along with three other Blacks--all in the same > > day. Great show, I highly recommend you check PBS schedule to see when it airs > > again. > > > > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/?campaign=pbshomefeatures_2_africanamericanliv > > es2_2008-02-06 > > > > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/about.html > > > > > > ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVES 2 > > > > Series Overview > > Building on the widespread acclaim of African American Lives (2006) and > > Oprah's Roots (2007), AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVES 2 again journeys deep into > > ancestry of an all-new group of remarkable individuals, offering an in-depth > > look at the African-American experience and race relations throughout U.S. > > history. Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. returns as series host, > > guiding genealogical investigations down through the 20th century, > > Reconstruction, slavery and early U.S. history, and presenting cutting-edge > > genetic analysis that locates participants' ancestors in Africa, Europe and > > America. Joining Professor Gates in the new broadcast are poet Maya Angelou, > > author Bliss Broyard, actor Don Cheadle, actor Morgan Freeman, theologian > > Peter Gomes, publisher Linda Johnson Rice, athlete Jackie Joyner-Kersee, radio > > personality Tom Joyner, comedian Chris Rock, music legend Tina Turner, and > > college administrator Kathleen Henderson, who was selected from more than > > 2,000 applicants to have her > > family history researched and DNA tested alongside the series' well-known > > guests. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married
I live in The Netherlands. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i forgot, where on that side of the pond do you live? > > -- Original message -- > From: "Meta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have to thank you as well, Tracy. > When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still > like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never > met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of > you. > Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that > haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all > the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself > here nearly every day. > I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially > America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about > so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in > many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food' > I can here. > > Thanks, > Meta > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly > Tracey L. Minor)" wrote: > > > > Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, > > but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I > > am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. > > > > Martin wrote: > > > Three cheers for Tracey! > > > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > > > Reece Jennings wrote: > God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You > know, I > > > played football on a > > > team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was > primarily a > > > defensive safety, and > > > we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came > from? Each > > > other. > > > > > > See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much > strength and > > > support flowed > > > between us... > > > > > > That's what I feel here, with all of us. > > > > > > I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion, > and that has > > > grown into what we have, > > > with the passion still our glue, of course. > > > > > > And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the > main subject, > > > and allowing us to > > > become so close... > > > > > > Maurice Jennings > > > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? > > > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! > > > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => > http://www.legacyhomesavers.com > > > <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Martin > > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married > > > > > > Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of > it these > > > days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model. > > > > > > Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> > yahoo.com> > > > wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially > > > painful/heavy > > > subjects > > > with sick humor...a gift I developed during my cop days...LOL! > > > > > > And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure > you know my > > > twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from the very > > > human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home for > me... > > > > > > I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head > to the > > > Philippines. > > > > > > He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted, > and his > > > name > > > was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, until > 1998, I had > > > no idea > > > what his adopted name was, or anything about him. Then I stumbled > across > > > his mother. > > > We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that > lead to her > > > pregnancy. > >
[scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married
I have to thank you as well, Tracy. When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of you. Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself here nearly every day. I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food' I can here. Thanks, Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, > but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I > am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. > > Martin wrote: > > Three cheers for Tracey! > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > Hip-hip HOORAY! > > > > Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You know, I > > played football on a > > team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was primarily a > > defensive safety, and > > we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came from? Each > > other. > > > > See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much strength and > > support flowed > > between us... > > > > That's what I feel here, with all of us. > > > > I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion, and that has > > grown into what we have, > > with the passion still our glue, of course. > > > > And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the main subject, > > and allowing us to > > become so close... > > > > Maurice Jennings > > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? > > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! > > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com > > <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Martin > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married > > > > Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of it these > > days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model. > > > > Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com> > > wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially > > painful/heavy > > subjects > > with sick humor...a gift I developed during my cop days...LOL! > > > > And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure you know my > > twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from the very > > human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home for me... > > > > I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head to the > > Philippines. > > > > He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted, and his > > name > > was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, until 1998, I had > > no idea > > what his adopted name was, or anything about him. Then I stumbled across > > his mother. > > We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that lead to her > > pregnancy. > > > > I did a search of his name on the fledgling internet, and 2 names popped up. > > A VERY unique > > first and last name helped, so I called the Junior name. My son answered, > > and I gently probed > > until I found out he had no idea that I existed. So...I dropped the > > 'F'-bomb (FATHER) on him. > > > > "I am your biological father." I gave him information about me. He, of > > course, was blown out. > > He said he couldn't talk right then. About 5 hours later I received a phone > > call from a very blunt, > > intense woman. She grilled me about his mother, our meeti
[scifinoir2] Re: "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was thinking of getting Kira set next year, maybe we will try Brio > wooden tracks too. Are they easy to assemble. Brio tracks are very easy for young children. When my son was about three I bought them for him and he had no problem assembling them at all. They're not cheap cost wise, but as they last forever it averages out in the long run. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
We certainly are, Tracey. Just ask my husband.:-) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "tdemorsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you > guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek > as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? > > :) > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "James A. Landrith, Jr." > wrote: > > > > Bronx woman. > > > > (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and > counting) > > > > ___ > > Sent with SnapperMail > > www.snappermail.com > > > > .. Original Message ... > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) "Astromancer" > > wrote: > > >(whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It > aint > > just Baltimore women... > > > > > >
[scifinoir2] Re: Television Question
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i hope when you get old, you'll put your false teeth in backwards and bite yourself to death (returning snide laugh) > Ha, ha. Mind if I steal this line? Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Movie Reviews: 'The Golden Compass'
Right. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Meta, I think that's the alternate title of it. I know that, sometimes, books are released on different continents under different titles and I *think* you're in Europe, right? > > Meta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly > Tracey L. Minor)" wrote: > > > > Movie Reviews: 'The Golden Compass' > I'm confused about the title. I have a copy of Pullman's book, (I > haven't read it yet.:-)) but the first book of the three is > called 'Northern Lights', so where does 'The Golden Compass' title > comes from? I've had 'His Dark Materials' for years, but was a bit > apprehensive to start fearing that it wouldn't be a good read. Is it? > > Meta > > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" > > - > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[scifinoir2] Re: Movie Reviews: 'The Golden Compass'
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Movie Reviews: 'The Golden Compass' I'm confused about the title. I have a copy of Pullman's book, (I haven't read it yet.:-)) but the first book of the three is called 'Northern Lights', so where does 'The Golden Compass' title comes from? I've had 'His Dark Materials' for years, but was a bit apprehensive to start fearing that it wouldn't be a good read. Is it? Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: I was on BET's S.O.B
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Said Kakese Dibinga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay folks, stop cringing.. The episode that I shot on BET's SOB aired last night, but I didn't see it. I went to what I thought was a job interview... > > We'll I found a link to the segment on youtube. Since none of you have ever seen me, I'm the African man wearing a green suit. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=UEvcMK0JOKs > > Enjoy, > > Said Wow! I thought at first the other 'applicants' were part of the show. Nice to see that you wasn't going for it right from the start and you did let the $$ change your mind. I will be showing this to my children. Thanks, Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor Who fan
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Father's Day" was on my local PBS station last night. This was one > of the best episodes featuring the Ninth Doctor I've ever seen. I > hate commercials. I will only watch Doctor Who without commercials > from now on, because I HAD to have seen this episode on Skiffy, but > there was probably a commercial on, so I turned the channel and never > came back to the show. There's no way I've been paying attention to > this show. It's been on too long for me to feel like this is a brand > new series. This means I'm getting a bunch of the older episodes on > DVD. So, here's a question we haven't had here in a long while: > > Who was the best Doctor? Where should I start my collection? > > Daryle Having seen all The Doctors I really can't say the word 'best' is applicable here. They all seem to be able to take the show in the direction that works best for them. At the moment I'm all into the current Doctor, but if I look at past Doctors I still can't/won't say one is better/worse. I like them all for what they bring to the myth. Start your collection any where, imo. you're in a win-win situation. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor Who fan
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Father's Day" was on my local PBS station last night. This was one > of the best episodes featuring the Ninth Doctor I've ever seen. I > hate commercials. I will only watch Doctor Who without commercials > from now on, because I HAD to have seen this episode on Skiffy, but > there was probably a commercial on, so I turned the channel and never > came back to the show. There's no way I've been paying attention to > this show. It's been on too long for me to feel like this is a brand > new series. This means I'm getting a bunch of the older episodes on > DVD. So, here's a question we haven't had here in a long while: > > Who was the best Doctor? Where should I start my collection? > > Daryle You can watch Who and Torchwood with this link, plus behind the scenes, etc. from both shows. http://tv-links.co.uk Mac
[scifinoir2] Re: Freema Agyeman Axed From â Doctor Whoâ
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course. In my recent spare time (HA!), I became mod of a Yahoo Doctor Who fan group, Martin, What Who group is it? I'd love to join in. My entire family is mad for the show. We nearly had a family break down last time the show was preempted. It the only show, outside of The Simpsons that my children will stop everything to watch. Meta
[scifinoir2] Re: Rick Berman to write book about Star Trek
> > Well, something I can stock up on to feed the fireplace during those long winter nigths... Don't, they'll probably give off toxic fumes... > Oyabun of Beats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [source: http://trekmovie.com/2007/04/20/berman-to-write-book-on-trek- > experience/] > > Berman To Write Book On Trek Experience > April 20, 2007 > by Anthony Pascale
[scifinoir2] Re: Despite cast shakeup Dr Who still popular
Dr Who is one of the few shows that will make my children step away from their computers. I HAVE to check online each week to make sure of the time its on, or I'll be kicked out of the family.:-) I've loved this show for years and still do. I don't know how they seem to get it right every time. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And it's even bigger this season. The third ep of the new series was postponed bya football game, and the protests from fans lit up the BBC3 switchboards all night long. > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When the 1980s ended, it seemed as if the world had somehow had enough > of "Doctor Who." Many believed that the stories had fallen out of > luster, and that was just from the people who had yet to outgrow the > series and noticed it was still even on. > > Revival attempts were bantied about in the nearly two decades that > followed, but even then, no one believed that "Doctor Who" would return > to the top of the ratings heap in the United Kingdom. The thing is, it > has -- even after a major cast shakeup the past two seasons. > > The third season of "Doctor Who" featuring David Tennant and Freema > Agyeman is surprising analysts across the island as it continues to > bring in more than 8 million viewers each week, giving it an audience > share of around 40 percent, Variety reports. While 8 million might be > considered a good average audience in the United States, in Queen > Elizabeth II country, that makes it one of the highest rated television > programs, and probably makes BBC wish they could insert some commercials. > > There was a tremendous amount of excitement when the series returned in > 2005 with Christopher Eccleston as The Doctor and Billie Piper as his > companion, Rose Tyler. And fans quickly fell in love with both > characters and their portrayers. But that lineup would only last one > season. And in fact, by the time the third season began on BBC One a few > weeks ago, both actors were long gone. But the viewers weren't. Only > "Coronation Street" and "EastEnders" -- two very popular soap operas -- > get better ratings in the United Kingdom, Variety reported. > > With the return of the Daleks and a season finale producers say will > make previous finales look like walks in the park, it looks like "Doctor > Who" will be around for a long time to come. > > "Doctor Who" airs Saturdays on BBC One, and is expected to begin airing > in the United States on SciFi Channel in the fall. > http://www.syfyportal.com/news423534.html > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" > > - > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[scifinoir2] Going Dutch wasRe: Goofing around with Web searches on "Doctor Who"
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been hearing about problems in Amsterdam, correct? Concerning > Muslims on the council who've been trying to enact laws based on > conservative Islamic views, such as controlling what women can wear, > movies shown, etc. Any truth to that? > I've heard of one instance where a islamic school wouldn't hire a teacher because she wouldn't wear headcovering. Things exploded after a filmmaker was killed here because he made a film that many felt was blasphemous towards Islam, plus two other politians had to go into hiding for the same reason. Actually the man who killed the guy was very mentally disturbed. The thing with the other two is still not clear to me. IMO. that situation was and still is being used as fuel to work up the fence sitters of racism here. Offical News and TV coverage here isn't much different from the states, which is why I'm a steady user of the Net for news updates. The minister of immigration wanted to have a law put in place that made it illegal to speak any language other than Dutch outside of your home. This was suggested as a way to become more acccepted by the native dutch people, otherwise they think you're talking about them. This follows a suggestion about a year ago from another politician that people should be made to speak only Dutch at home. This was so all those Muslim women 'made' to stay in the house could become more 'westernized'. Now I've lived here for twenty years and have run across only one family where this went on and I know that it had nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with how the male really needed mental health treatment. It seems as if every time they open their mouths some rediculous new laws are being proposed for the good of 'the people'of course. It was also 'suggested'that young unmarried Antillean women be made to have abortions, to prevent the child from growing up unloved. http://tinyurl.com/osn3z Stuff like this is going on all the time here. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] OT; Dutch doings was Re: Goofing around with Web searches on "Doctor Who"
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Informative, indeed. Wonder where this all ends? I just read an article recently (sorry, can't remember the source) written by a man of Moroccan descent who was born in France. He writes of being regularly subjected to the usual profiling horrors, even detailing a conversation he had with a policeman, who told him that he "needed to go back to wherever he came from". To this, he responded that he was on his way there at the time. > > Paris. Sounds like an incident I had on the bus. I was heading home after shopping, got on the bus asked for a ticket for my village and the bus driver informed me that it might be easier for me if I took the other bus to the asielcentrum (asylum center). I told her since I was heading for my 'home', this 'ís' the bus I needed. She gave me the typical Dutch look, that says, "Hey, I'm still not wrong, you are.". This is still the country that thinks its okay to dress in 'black face' on Dec.5 every year. Do a search on 'Zwarte Piet'and you'll see what I mean. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Goofing around with Web searches on "Doctor Who"
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In what way are (is?) The Netherlands headed the Hollywood route? In > terms of treatments of peoples of color, or just in general? If the > former, is it portraying us as from the stereotypical 'hood, or the > unrealistic good guys? The first two. The term for a non-Nederlader is Allochtoon, which translate to 'the other'. Nearly all the ills of society is the fault of the allochtoonen. The immigration laws are being geared towards keeping non-western immigrants out. These people have buy a Dutch course and then have to prove via a telephone test (They must pay for the course and test themselves and it ain't cheap) that they know enough dutch culture and language to pass a pre-entry test before they can get permission to enter the country, and the ones that do make it in has to jump through the hoop of the Dutch inbergering course (A course that a majority of the Dutch failed, when they aired the national inbergering couse program on tv recently. It seems to take years to learn enough to pass the course, only because they assume people taking the course are uneducated. The main scapegoats are Muslims, Turks, Antilleans and Surinamese. > > By the way, does "Netherlands" mean anything in the language? It means 'Lowlands' and since a good portion of present day Netherlands is below sea level thats a perfect name for it. btw. 'Holland' the name that most people know the country by is really just the name of two province of the Netherlands, North and South Holland. >I know > "nether" usually refers to the lower or hidden regions of something, > such as the nether regions of Hell or the nether regions of one's body > (no offense meant by either!) > None taken. According to some ex-pats both explanations would be correct. If you want to see how some expats feel about the country check out the forum of this expat site. http://tinyurl.com/syjyj It gets pretty heated in there at times. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Goofing around with Web searches on "Doctor Who"
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I agrree. I saw actor Steve Harris ("The Practice", the wife beater
from "Diary of a Mad Black Woman") on Tavis Smiley last night, and he
said much the same thing. He was talking about Hollywood tendencies to
stereotype Blacks at both ends of the spectrum: either bad to the bone
"streetwise" (I've come to hate that word!) thugs, or, conversely,
saintly heroes who are too perfect and who often are treated like
sexless eunuchs with no lives (that last is mine). At any rate, Harris
was also saying he'd like to see more Blacks just portrayed as regular
guys with good and bad qualities.
>
Than his best chance of seeing that is watching films, etc from
just about anywhere other than America. Sadly The Netherlands seems
to be headed for the 'Hollywood other' route. I hope
its just a phase.
Meta
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[scifinoir2] OT:Black People Love Us!
The things that come up in searches are amazing. I was doing one for M People and this turned up. Meta http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/ Welcome to our website: Black People Love Us! We are well-liked by Black people so we're psyched (since lots of Black people don't like lots of White people)!! We thought it'd be cool to honor our exceptional status with a ROCKIN' domain name and a killer website!! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday Night!
No, he get recycled.:) He regenerates into another person. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So there's a separate physical being that's put inside a humanoid shell? > > -- Original message -- > From: "Cat Corley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, he's basically a Trill :) > > Cat > > On 3/19/06, Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess this won't be a spoiler for anyone, but is each incarnation of > > the Doctor supposed to be the same guy in a different body? I read > > something to that effect... > > > SPONSORED LINKS Science fiction and fantasy Genre magazine > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "scifinoir2" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Goofing around with Web searches on "Doctor Who"
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, let's just call me a collector and collator of facts obscure and wondrous! > I knew that about Piper after reading her bio at the Dr. Who site. I like her as Rose. Whaddya think? > I actually want to see more of her boyfriend. The Brother who plays him has an impressive acting pedigree, with some respected awards to his credit. But the way he was cringing and running during the battle had me rolling! He'd be great in other situations, kinda like a modern-day Dr. Smith who'd probably have to be shamed by his girlfriend into doing anything really heroic. > I like that Mickey, because he's just a normal guy being confronted with and learning to deal with abnormal events. He's not streetwise, bad-assed; hard; worldly; rapping, or any of the other things he could have been portrayed as, and yet he still can be the hero, even if its forced on him at times and that is what I like. He does the right thing when he's called upon to do so. I'll take that over the born hero any day. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday Night!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess this won't be a spoiler for anyone, but is each incarnation of > the Doctor supposed to be the same guy in a different body? I read > something to that effect... Not really. It seems as if each incarnation retains some quirks from the past ones ( sort of like an after image.), but on the whole they are different people and tend to react to things in their own special way. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday Night!
Replace him, as usual. Its sort of expected to always have new Doctors. We're on our ninth one; tenth or eleventh, if you count the 'Made for TV' and the movie Doctor. Waiting to see how the new guy does is part of the fun of the show.:) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the guy who played Dr. Who has already quit the series? What will > they do now? "The Others" is one of my favorite movies. I loved it. Saw > it for the first time on a cold, cloudy day with mist all in the air, > and the slow suspense of the movie fit the day perfectly. > > -Original Message- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cat Corley > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 01:15 > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday > Night! > > > I loved it. It's a show that takes you on an adventure. I miss shows > with weird aliens and costumes. There should be more rubber masks and > puppets. > > Christopher Eccleston was also in The Others with Nicole Kidman. He > supposedly quit the show after 1 season because he was going to be in > the DaVinci Code movie. I haven't seen his name in the credits yet. > > Cat > > On 3/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Believe it or don't, I never watched the famed "Dr. Who" from back in > > the day. I saw Tom Baker (?), watched a few minutes of some shows, but > > > never got into it. What can I say? I was a goofy kid who was too > > focused on Star Trek, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc. The only > > > British fare I was hooked on was Monty Python. Never saw *any* of the > > Brit sci fi shows. > > > > But now's my chance! The highly anticipated and highly praised revival > of Dr. Who (from 2005), premieres tomorrow night on Sci Fi Channel. I'm > hearing rave reviews about it. I hear fully 44% of all British > households tuned in for the premiere last year! I hear the new Doctor > is decidedly different, but liked. I believe I saw the actor play a > military leader in "28 Days Later"? > > > > ** > > > > The Time Lord enters a new age. > > > > Christopher Eccleston's Doctor is wise, funny and brave, an adventurer > > > in time and space. His detached logic gives him a vital edge when the > > world's in danger. But when it comes to human relationships, he can be > > > found wanting. That's why he needs Rose. > > > > Rose Tyler is a shop-girl from the present day, trapped in a dull > > existence. From the moment she and the Doctor meet, they are > > soulmates; they understand and complement each other. With nothing to > > hold Rose back - neither her over-bearing mum nor her hapless > > boyfriend - she chooses to devote herself to the Doctor and his > > promise of fantastic adventures across the universe. And he doesn't > > let her down.. > > > > At the 2005 National Television Awards, voted for by the British > > public, Doctor Who scooped three of the top prizes: Most Popular > > Drama, Most Popular Actor (Christopher Eccleston) and Most Popular > > Actress (Billie Piper). > > > > So don't delay - hop into the Tardis and get ready for the adventure > > of a lifetime (or two or three or 12.) > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday Night!
I'm in The Netherlands, but we get BBC 1&2, plus many other shows shown on Dutch TV. I'm thinking of getting sat., because then I can see other British channels. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right, I should get some UK friends. They have a really > interesting scifi world, I've noticed. I do read a great mag, > "Dreamwatch", based in Britain, and love it. Anyone on the group hail > from Britain? > How'd you manage to see the series before anyone else? Was it available > on DVD before Sci Fi showed it, or do you have a satellite setup that > gets British TV? > > -Original Message- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cat Corley > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 04:34 > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday > Night! > > > Keith, you gotta get some pals in the UK :) > Yes, you are correct Eccleston is the one from 2005 and the one that > you are now seeing on the SciFi channel. I saw those last year but I'm > still rewatching them on the SciFi channel. > > Cat > On 3/18/06, Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is Eccleston the one on the series from 2005, the one on the Sci Fi > > Channel's current run? When did you get a chance to see the > replacement > > already? I thought the series was being delayed in release time from > the > > UK to the US. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of Meta > > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 05:09 > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday > > Night! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Cat Corley" wrote: > > > > > > I loved it. It's a show that takes you on an adventure. I miss shows > > > with weird aliens and costumes. There should be more rubber masks > and > > > puppets. > > > > > > > I love it as well. There's nothing wrong with > > cheesy sci/fi, if its good cheese.:) > > > > > Christopher Eccleston was also in The Others with Nicole Kidman. He > > > supposedly quit the show after 1 season because he was going to be > in > > > the DaVinci Code movie. I haven't seen his name in the credits yet. > > > > > > > He didn't want to be typecasted as The Doctor either. > > Don't worry, however his replacement picks up > > the ball very well. > > > Cat > > > > > > On 3/16/06, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > Believe it or don't, I never watched the famed "Dr. Who" from back > > in the day. I saw Tom Baker (?), watched a few minutes of some shows, > > but never got into it. What can I say? I was a goofy kid who was too > > focused on Star Trek, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc. The only > > British fare I was hooked on was Monty Python. Never saw *any* of the > > Brit sci fi shows. > > > > > > > > But now's my chance! The highly anticipated and highly praised > > revival of Dr. Who (from 2005), premieres tomorrow night on Sci Fi > > Channel. I'm hearing rave reviews about it. I hear fully 44% of all > > British households tuned in for the premiere last year! I hear the > > new Doctor is decidedly different, but liked. I believe I saw the > > actor play a military leader in "28 Days Later"? > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Science > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Science+fiction+and+fantasy&w1=Scie > nce+fiction+and+fantasy&w2=Genre+magazine&c=2&s=53&.sig=8s5ldQicr16mMwkM > wHGybg> fiction and fantasy Genre > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Genre+magazine&w1=Science+fiction+a > nd+fantasy&w2=Genre+magazine&c=2&s=53&.sig=6x48yHym4cI_VD4C3GisSg> > magazine > > _ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "scifinoir2 > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2> " on the web. > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > _ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday Night!
No date has been announced, only that the new season starts in the spring. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Cat Corley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think David Tenant did a good job as well. I actually thought that > the Christmas Invasion was the beginning of the new season. I still > haven't heard an actual date for the new season . You? > > Cat > > On 3/18/06, Meta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Cat Corley" wrote: > > > > > > I loved it. It's a show that takes you on an adventure. I miss shows > > > with weird aliens and costumes. There should be more rubber masks and > > > puppets. > > > > > > > I love it as well. There's nothing wrong with > > cheesy sci/fi, if its good cheese.:) > > > > > Christopher Eccleston was also in The Others with Nicole Kidman. He > > > supposedly quit the show after 1 season because he was going to be in > > > the DaVinci Code movie. I haven't seen his name in the credits yet. > > > > > > > He didn't want to be typecasted as The Doctor either. > > Don't worry, however his replacement picks up > > the ball very well. > > > Cat > > > > > > On 3/16/06, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > Believe it or don't, I never watched the famed "Dr. Who" from back > > in the day. I saw Tom Baker (?), watched a few minutes of some shows, > > but never got into it. What can I say? I was a goofy kid who was too > > focused on Star Trek, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc. The only > > British fare I was hooked on was Monty Python. Never saw *any* of the > > Brit sci fi shows. > > > > > > > > But now's my chance! The highly anticipated and highly praised > > revival of Dr. Who (from 2005), premieres tomorrow night on Sci Fi > > Channel. I'm hearing rave reviews about it. I hear fully 44% of all > > British households tuned in for the premiere last year! I hear the > > new Doctor is decidedly different, but liked. I believe I saw the > > actor play a military leader in "28 Days Later"? > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > The Time Lord enters a new age. > > > > > > > > Christopher Eccleston's Doctor is wise, funny and brave, an > > adventurer in time and space. His detached logic gives him a vital > > edge when the world's in danger. But when it comes to human > > relationships, he can be found wanting. That's why he needs Rose. > > > > > > > > Rose Tyler is a shop-girl from the present day, trapped in a dull > > existence. From the moment she and the Doctor meet, they are > > soulmates; they understand and complement each other. With nothing to > > hold Rose back neither her over-bearing mum nor her hapless > > boyfriend she chooses to devote herself to the Doctor and his > > promise of fantastic adventures across the universe. And he doesn't > > let her down . > > > > > > > > At the 2005 National Television Awards, voted for by the British > > public, Doctor Who scooped three of the top prizes: Most Popular > > Drama, Most Popular Actor (Christopher Eccleston) and Most Popular > > Actress (Billie Piper). > > > > > > > > So don't delay hop into the Tardis and get ready for the > > adventure of a lifetime (or two or three or 12 ) > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr. Who Premieres on Sci Fi Channel Friday Night!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Cat Corley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I loved it. It's a show that takes you on an adventure. I miss shows > with weird aliens and costumes. There should be more rubber masks and > puppets. > I love it as well. There's nothing wrong with cheesy sci/fi, if its good cheese.:) > Christopher Eccleston was also in The Others with Nicole Kidman. He > supposedly quit the show after 1 season because he was going to be in > the DaVinci Code movie. I haven't seen his name in the credits yet. > He didn't want to be typecasted as The Doctor either. Don't worry, however his replacement picks up the ball very well. > Cat > > On 3/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Believe it or don't, I never watched the famed "Dr. Who" from back in the day. I saw Tom Baker (?), watched a few minutes of some shows, but never got into it. What can I say? I was a goofy kid who was too focused on Star Trek, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc. The only British fare I was hooked on was Monty Python. Never saw *any* of the Brit sci fi shows. > > > > But now's my chance! The highly anticipated and highly praised revival of Dr. Who (from 2005), premieres tomorrow night on Sci Fi Channel. I'm hearing rave reviews about it. I hear fully 44% of all British households tuned in for the premiere last year! I hear the new Doctor is decidedly different, but liked. I believe I saw the actor play a military leader in "28 Days Later"? > > > > ** > > > > The Time Lord enters a new age. > > > > Christopher Eccleston's Doctor is wise, funny and brave, an adventurer in time and space. His detached logic gives him a vital edge when the world's in danger. But when it comes to human relationships, he can be found wanting. That's why he needs Rose. > > > > Rose Tyler is a shop-girl from the present day, trapped in a dull existence. From the moment she and the Doctor meet, they are soulmates; they understand and complement each other. With nothing to hold Rose back neither her over-bearing mum nor her hapless boyfriend she chooses to devote herself to the Doctor and his promise of fantastic adventures across the universe. And he doesn't let her down . > > > > At the 2005 National Television Awards, voted for by the British public, Doctor Who scooped three of the top prizes: Most Popular Drama, Most Popular Actor (Christopher Eccleston) and Most Popular Actress (Billie Piper). > > > > So don't delay hop into the Tardis and get ready for the adventure of a lifetime (or two or three or 12 ) > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Black Folx Working on Films Everywhere
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.bolletjesbluesdefilm.nl/ I hope its not another gangsta movie. 'bolletjes' is Dutch slang for cocaine, etc. and is used in reference to drug smugglers( the ones who swallow bags). I haven't heard anything about it here, but I'll keep my eyes and ears open for it. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Brother wins Olympic Gold Medal in 1,000 meter speedskating!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, buky90 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > did you know that the only reason he was basically at the olympics was for > the chase position?? he and his TEAM had been doing there thing for years he > been placing recently and then he gets to the oly he drops them. he's got no > heart or honor According to the Dutch papers his main pursuit has always been the race he won. He's a clear favorite of the Dutch speedskating circle and since I know the Dutch are seriously knowledgeable about this sport, I'll go with their opinion of Davis. I personally don't know him so I sure don't feel I or anyone else have the right to question either his heart or his honor. I do know that by next week or sooner most Americans won't even be able to tell you the name of even one member of the speedskating team,even if their lives were at stake, so I'm going back to real life mode. I still like that he won. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] OT: Gov. madness isn't exclusively a U.S. thing.
This is the latest proposal from a member of a political group here in The Netherlands. Meta Abort 'unloved' Antilleans, says Rotterdam politician 20 February 2006 AMSTERDAM Alderman Marianne van den Anker for the Leefbaar Rotterdam (LR) party has called for a debate in Rotterdam on compulsory abortion and contraception for mothers she believes are responsible for raising unloved babies that fall victim to child abuse. SWA, a foundation promoting health among Antilleans and Arubans in Rotterdam, said the alderman's comments were degrading. It called on the Mayor Ivo Opstelten and the LR's coalition partners, the Christian Democrat (CDA) and Liberal (VVD) parties, to distance themselves from Van den Anker's views. She has also received dozens of emails criticising her ideas. As legal experts pointed out, Van den Anker's plan would never be permitted, a CDA spokesperson warned: "If Leefbaar Rotterdam raises this idea in the talks to form a new coalition, the CDA will not be part of such an executive." The VVD said women had a right to control their own bodies and the government could not interfere. Van den Anker is a mother of two children and the official in charge of Rotterdam's health and security portfolios. She is also a candidate in the local elections. In an interview in newspaper 'NRC Handelsblad' on Saturday, she said she had tried everything to prevent child abuse. "I fail, I fail," she told the interviewer as she outlined her controversial idea for a debate on compulsory abortion and contraception. The three target groups she has in mind are Antillean teenage mothers; drug addicts and people with mental handicaps. Van den Anker said children from these groups run an "unacceptable risk" of growing up without love and with "violence, neglect, mistreatment and sexual abuse." "The exceptions, are there are some, can be counted on a pair of hands," she said. The politician told the newspaper the courts would decide on whether abortion was the right option. The decision would be based on experts and care workers who "who can see in 95 percent or even 100 percent of cases whether the child has a chance of growing up with love". Van den Anker supported her argument by suggesting that there were a lot of Antillean youth gangs in Rotterdam whose members come from loveless homes. The gangs, she said, committed rapes, were loverboys (pimps) and guilty of street terror. "Antillean youths who commit serious crimes have been through everything themselves. History repeats itself and they visit the tragedy of their life history on others," she said. [Copyright Expatica News + ANP 2006] Subject: Dutch news Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Brother wins Olympic Gold Medal in 1,000 meter speedskating!
Going buy what I've read about his team(?)mates atitude towards him even before the decision he made, why would he go out of his way and jeopardize what he worked hard. Had I access to only the US papers I might have seen your point of view in a different light. imo. his race should have no baring on his decision, plenty of white folks have done the same. What law says we have to always play the noble black, out for the good of the team? As if getting the team gold would make him more acceptable in that circle. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, buky90 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But as usual you have too take the sour with the sweet. H E wassupposed to > skate chase in a race the day before and due to him not doing so we got > dissed. yeah yeah he won a gold but I'm really tired of the one for all > oooppps... all for me by the brothers.Could this be one of the reasons the > basketballteam sucked last olympics??? > > On 2/18/06, drcsaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Shani Davis, the brother from Chicago, won the Olympic Gold Medal in > > the mens 1,000 meter speedskating As a former ice-hockey player, > > (usually the only black (African on top of that) on the ice along with > > the puck)I love Shani's accomplishment... > > > > He was the heavy favorite.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] Map of SciFinoir Member Locations
I;m an American from Philly. I came here on vacation had a blast, went home, came back and have been here since '86. Back then this country was rather a nice laid back place to be, but over the years it has been getting seriously xenaphobic, especially against non-westeren immigrants and non-Dutch peoples. All the ills of the country is of course the fault of the 'Allochtones, meaning foreigner. Most of the cause of this feeling is of course daily negative stories in the newspapers. Reminds me of how things are reported in the U.S., which is really rather sad. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Meta: > I've been meaning to ask you about how you ended up in the Netherlands. > Were you born there or somewhere else. I'm dying to know the interesting > tale around your location. I can not remember which list I remember your > posts from , so I am posting on both. > > Tracey > > -Original Message- > From: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tdemorsella > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:24 PM > To: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [SciFiNoir Lit] Map of SciFinoir Member Locations > > > Hi SciFiNoir Family. I just signed us up for a service that provides > a map of where scifinoir members live. While I no longer live near > anyone anymore, (moved to Mexico in October) most of you probably > live really close to other memers and do not even know it. This map > will hopefully correct that. Please click through to add your point > on the map. Takes less than a minute. > http://www.frappr.com/scifinoir/map > > > Thanks > > Tracey de Morsella, your moderator > SciFiNoir/SciFiNoir-Lit > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir-lit/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir2/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir_Lit/ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/263 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/263 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Taking Black Family Trees Out of Slavery's Shadow
If I'm not mistaken what byou propose was done by the BBC a year or so ago. I understand what you are saying, because that was sort of what I felt when I visited the website of the show. Once again American TV gives us entertainment instead of info. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I started watching it, but for some reason the fact that it was mostly > celebrities--rich ones at that--irritated me. I turned to my wife and > said "Of all the people who can afford to pay for a team to get this > done, these people can". I know, they're no less "real" than me, and > their stories are compelling and of immense interest to them. I just > think, that in this time of media saturation and celebrity overexposure, > I'd have found the show more interesting if everyday people like me had > been chronicled. Those are the people who'd benefit from a magical and > empowering journey of self-discovery like this. > > -Original Message- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of ravenadal > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 18:34 > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Taking Black Family Trees Out of Slavery's Shadow > > > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/ > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/01/arts/television/01heff.html?_r=1 > <http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/01/arts/television/01heff.html?_r=1&inca > mp=articl\> &incamp=articl\ > e_popular&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin > > This DNA technology is fascinating to me. It has been a boon to the > black man (the so called African-American). It is no longer so easy > to send a black man to jail for a crime a white man committed. And it > is now possible to determine who your ancestors be. > > One of the things that have kept me from traveling to Africa was not > knowing where, on that great continent, my ancestors were from. In > other words, it wouldn't exactly be going home unless you knew where > home was. > > One of the interesting tidbits from the series: Oprah Winfrey doesn't > have a drop of European "blood" in her DNA. I guess you gotta be a > true "black" woman to love "white" people the way she do. > > I slept on the first episode...the second airs February 8th. > > February 1, 2006 > TV Review | 'African American Lives' > Taking Black Family Trees Out of Slavery's Shadow > By VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN > > The idea that race is a function of language, myth, social conventions > and even personal style captivated academic circles in the 1990's. The > concept was a boon for philosophers and literary critics, who churned > out books on how racial codes are engineered and deployed. Some of > this work was called deconstruction. The literary critic Henry Louis > Gates Jr., now chairman of the African and African American Studies > department at Harvard, wrote with particular force and imagination on > those themes. > > As provocative as the best of those books were - and, sure, the worst > of them were fanciful, jargony and obscure - they lacked drama and > suspense. Great novels did not come out of this way of regarding race; > it inspired more analysis than narrative. In fact, despite its passion > for storytelling in the abstract, 90's race philosophy didn't generate > many actual stories. Its proponents were too busy writing theory. > > That has changed, and a less rarefied way of thinking about race has > tapped a miraculous wellspring of great American stories. Tonight > "African American Lives," a four-hour series, begins on PBS; it's the > most exciting and stirring documentary on any subject to appear on > television in a long time. Once again, Professor Gates, the program's > host and an executive producer, is first among academics to exploit > the dramatic potential of the new intellectual apparatus - only this > time, it's genealogy, science and DNA analysis. > > In spite of its uninspired title (Professor Gates, what were you > thinking?), "African American Lives" is a quest romance. It chronicles > the exhilarating search by nine black Americans, including Professor > Gates, for their ancestry. Of course, it adds to the documentary's > excitement that many of the nine are serious celebrities, including > Quincy Jones, Chris Tucker, Bishop T. D. Jakes, Whoopi Goldberg and > Oprah Winfrey. The others - the surgeon Ben Carson, the astronaut Mae > Jemison and the Harvard professor Sara Lawrence-Lightfoot - are no > less distinguished. The not-so-muted question of "African American > Lives&quo
[scifinoir2] Re: Hustle
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's rerun Fridays at 7 pm Eastern. What intrigues me about the show is > that the lead star is a young Black man. It's actor Adrian Lester, who > was seen in Primary Colors. Somehow I doubt an American show like this > would give the cool lead role to a Brother. > I've enjoyed all the Hustle series. Adrian Lester is exceptional in it and he carries the show very well. One of the things I like about living outside the U.S.is you get to see images of Blackness in all its variations. Especially from the BBC. They don't seem to be afraid to let the lead be colors other than White and the type factor isn't always on show or used so heavyhanded. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Earthsea
I can buy this on DVD for about $12. Is it worth getting even at this low price? Meta Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: The Long History of a Bus Ride
Yes this was terrific. I do find it a shame the other two great women mentioned in this article wasn't give their proper respect news wise. These two ladies were on my 'great women'list growing up, especially Ms Tucker as she was in my part of the world at the time. Why is it still the case that we seem to only be allowed one icon at a time? Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Terrific! Rosa Parks in proper context. > > > > October 31, 2005 > Op-Ed Contributor > The Long History of a Bus Ride > By JUAN WILLIAMS > Washington > > ROSA PARKS led an inspiring life. Unfortunately, we rarely hear about it. > > That may sound surprising at a time when Rosa Parks is probably mentioned in every American history textbook and is the subject of dozens of biographies. The problem is that her story is usually presented as a simplistic morality tale. It is a paint-by-the numbers picture of virtue that goes like this: > > On Dec. 1, 1955, Mrs. Parks is an ordinary 42-year-old seamstress in downtown Montgomery, Ala. She leaves work and gets on the Cleveland Avenue bus to go home. When the whites-only section fills up, the bus driver yells at Mrs. Parks to give up her seat to a white man. She refuses and is arrested. Simply by sitting on a bus, Mrs. Parks sets off the year-long Montgomery bus boycott that galvanizes national attention, brings the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to the start of his journey as a civil rights leader and creates a model of nonviolent protest against racial segregation. > > There's no denying the appeal of this story - her body began lying in honor in the Capitol yesterday. But this telling of the tale does a disservice to Mrs. Parks and twists the history of the civil rights movement. Her story is about more than one bus ride. And the civil rights movement is more than one moment of defiance. The focus on Rosa Parks leads to the neglect of other civil rights pioneers who did far more to shape history. > > Take two other black women who died recently with much less attention to their life work. Constance Baker Motley, the first black woman to be a federal judge, was an N.A.A.C.P. lawyer who helped to write briefs used in arguing the Brown school desegregation case. In the 50's, she went into hostile towns all over the South and won case after case to make sure that their school districts really integrated. She also directed the legal campaign that led to the admission of James Meredith to the University of Mississippi and stood by him as he faced down segregationist violence to enroll. And she stayed with Medgar Evers as he battled the racists who eventually killed him. > > Another woman who recently died, C. DeLores Tucker, didn't face that kind of drama. But she broke through political barriers to become Pennsylvania's commonwealth secretary, then blazed new paths by working to get other black people into elected office and challenging misogyny in rap music. > > The one-dimensional telling of one day in the life of Rosa Parks takes her away from the real story - and to my mind the really inspiring story - of extraordinary black women like Judge Motley and Ms. Tucker, who rose from working-class backgrounds to become dedicated to creating social change. > > The truth is that Mrs. Parks was not someone who one day, out of the blue, decided to defy the local custom of blacks sitting in the back of the bus. That story leads some people to the cynical conclusion, once voiced by a character in the movie "Barbershop," that all Rosa Parks did was sit on her bottom. That's not only insulting but a distortion that takes away the powerful truth that Rosa Parks worked hard to develop her own political consciousness and then worked hard to build a politically aware black community in the heart of Dixie. > > Before that one moment of defiance on the bus she was a civil rights activist who had long fought to get voting rights for black people in Alabama. Apparently it is too confusing to mention that as far back as 1943 she had refused to follow the rules requiring black people to enter city buses through the back door. And it invites too much complexity to mention that in the late 40's, as an official of the local branch of the N.A.A.C.P., she was forming a coalition with a group of black and white women in Montgomery to fight segregated seating on city buses. > > Her education in rural Pine Level, Ala., came at Jim Crow schools that taught her only enough to work for white people as a washerwoman, maid or seamstress. In Montgomery, she worked mending dresses. One of her employers was Virginia Durr, the wife of a powerful white lawyer. Mrs. Durr, a member of the interrac
[scifinoir2] High-Tech Door Better than Star Trek
The Tanaka Auto Door opens automatically when you stand in front of it. Even better, it only opens just enough to let the individual person come in. The Auto Door consists of individual slats that slide open and closed from the side of the door. Each slat is half the width of the door; each slat has a sensor. If you stand in front of the door, the sensors determine how much of the door needs to open to allow you to enter. more at link below, plus link to see demo of door. http://tinyurl.com/9vkp5 Meta Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/LRMolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?
Are any of them on sale anywhere. I could use a Hawk dose. I was telling my children about these shows and they really want to see them. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "drcsaid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm glad that I taped those Hawk episodes on Spencer and "A Man > Called Hawk" series...Wesley, Wendall Pirece, Angela Basset, Samuel > Jackson, Eric LaSalle etc were i the cut on those series... > > I'm going to burn them to DVD...hey an I write that here? I don't > want this site shut down too! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > LMAO...I wasn't goiong to say that...but you have a point...On top > of that, if anyone can get my mom to say "Boy is he good lookin'," He > has got to be impressive...Mom has never uttered that about anyone on > TV except Avery Brooks... > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with that. He'd lost the fire > after his wife's death. I'm just saying I wish he'd started out as > Captain Sisko of whatever that starship was he was on. But hey, like > you say, he grew like hell in what is probably my favorite Trek > series. > > Oh course, ol' boy didn't really shine until he shaved that head > and grew that beard, and became Hawk in the 24th Century! > > > > -- Original message -- > > Also remember that Sisko was Highly Pissed off at the world when he > lost his wife...Realistically, I think that was the reason that, if > he was passed over for the promotion, was...From what I gather, It > seemed as if Sisko was on his way out of Starfleet as I read > it...Hence, his posting at DS9...Very plausible...And I thought he > did a helluva job turning himself around in one episode... > > > > > > Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually I was going back to the premiere, where Sisko was First > Officer > > of his ship. I felt his character should have been a captain of that > > starship, not the XO. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Astromancer > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 19:20 > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: What does Sci-Fi have against Black > > people? > > > > > > On one point, I have to say militarily was incorrect...Sisko was a > > commander, but of an outpost, not a ship, which I am assuming the > > captain's rank was reserved for ship's commanders...But I do see > your > > point... > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Your point is dead-on, which is what I > > meant. Star Trek was the beacon, starting slowly (a Black woman, no > > Black men in major roles), then grew with Geordi (whose disability > > definitely raised eyebrows among Blacks) and Worf, and reaching > fruition > > in Sisko. The series matured in its treatment of people of color > (though > > why Sisko was the only lead character in all the shows that started > out > > as a commander instead of a captain was puzzling). That's what I > meant > > about "Enterprise" going backwards. They literally regressed over > three > > decades and relegated the Black and Asian characters to the same > levels > > of background noise that unfortunately mostly defined Uhura and > Sulu. > > And speaking of Sulu, MAJOR crime to my mind that George Takei, who > has > > great screen presence, was never able to shine in Trek as he > deserved. > > I'd have loved to have seen a movie based on his Excelsior. > > > > And you are so correct in saying that you hate the treatment of > people > > of color on Galactica more now that you like it. I'm the same way. I > > hated the show when it started, wrote a scathing review in our > group, > > then grew to love it. But then I look up and see the Asian girl > being > > the love interest for two different white dudes, and ditto for the > Black > > girl (Moore hints to a developing love triangle between the Sister, > > Billy, and Apollo). I see no Brothers playing anything but guards > and > > "muscle", as you say. And i just have to wonder, is it intentional > or > > just more of the same white ignorance? Moore is a white man, and > maybe > > bringing women of color on to be love interests for white men is > > "diversity" to him. Maybe he hasn't noticed that on several > occassions > > he's used BBM (Big Black
[scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
I bike just about everywhere. That's the advantage of living in a country that sees biking as a real form of transportation. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, it is hard when there is no mass transit or no reliable mass > transit in your town. Something to talk with your local governmental > reps about especially as gas approaches $4 a gallon by Thanksgiving. > > George > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Laileana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am a vegetarian and my score was still 20. I think my gas > guzzling > SUV got me. That I drive everywhere alone. There is not really > reliable public transportation where I live at. > > lois > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hp87smr/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124468161/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=GRP&RTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/";>What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good. ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- > fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the > current state of politics? > > Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as > bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This > should bring a huge smile to your face: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ > > Enjoy! > > George > Captain > The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hbm0q03/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124390601/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=GRP&RTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/";>What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good. ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Fw: More about 10th Planet Discovered
When I was in my teens more then thirty years ago a friend of my Mom did a Tarot reading on me and she mentioned something about a tenth planet pass Pluto. I thought she was maybe a few bricks shy, but now I wish I'd listened and kept that reading. Very strange. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > More about this exciting story! > > > NASA Science News for July 29, 2005 > Astronomers have found a new world bigger than Pluto in the outer reaches of the solar system. > > FULL STORY at > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/29jul_planetx.htm?list86684 > > The [EMAIL PROTECTED] Podcast feed is available at http://science.nasa.gov/podcast.xml. > > > You are currently subscribed to snglist as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is a free service. > > To unsubscribe click here: http://lyris.msfc.nasa.gov/u?id=86684K&n=T&l=snglist > or send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h537fp5/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123752342/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=GRP&RTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/";>What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good. ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] OT:Article from LA Times- A Hard Truth to Portray
I didn't even know people were doing this sort of thing. What do you make of it? http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050605/ts_latimes/ahardtruthtoportray A Hard Truth to Portray By Ellen Barry Times Staff WriterSun Jun 5, 7:55 AM ET There are positions open for slaves at the Bratton plantation. Applicants must be willing to pick cotton, drink the master's liquor, gossip, sing spirituals, mourn the dead. The job is unpaid. Starts immediately. Since last summer, when four African American "living history" volunteers raised complaints about scripts they were asked to read, managers at Historic Brattonsville, a museum and historic site, have been coping with the most awkward of personnel issues. First, the interpreters who played the slave bride and groom left, complaining that their characters were mindlessly happy. The man who played Watt, the Bratton family's most loyal slave, was dismissed after ad-libbing a dark, drunken soliloquy at the Christmas Candlelight Tour. The interpreter who plays the slave Big Jim is on a six-month "hiatus," unsure whether he can find common ground with management but talking about "systemic changes." The four have criticized the museum recently in local newspapers. It is an odd position for the museum's directors, who were proud of the progressive impulse that led them to emphasize slavery in their living-history programs. Across the South, lovingly kept plantations are open to the public; Confederate reenactors spend untold vacation days tracing their ancestors' footsteps. But historically, plantation museums have glossed over the subject of slavery. The experience at Historic Brattonsville an idyllic settlement 36 miles southwest of Charlotte, N.C. underlines the difficulty of facing it head-on. Fifteen years ago, managers here decided to bring in costumed interpreters to describe slave life in the first person. By last year, Brattonsville had developed a strong, cohesive group of volunteers who compared notes about the feelings that surged through them during reenactments. Four of them, particular friends, agreed that they wanted to portray the brutality of the system more forcefully. Their scripts covered weddings, funerals, holidays; after interpreting for three or four years, they wanted descriptions of whippings, of rapes. John Joyner, a 58-year-old businessman from Charlotte, began slipping in references to octoroon concubines in New Orleans and "breeding farms" where enslaved men were forced to impregnate women. He began to improvise in the role of Watt, hoping to provoke strong reactions. "When people leave these events, they leave applauding, laughing, and saying, 'Thank you for the show,' " said Tiffani Sanders, 32, a freelance graphic designer who volunteered with her husband, Charles. "We should see tears come out of their eyes." 'A Podium for the Truth' On the way into Brattonsville, a tunnel of oak trees opens to a green, misty clearing. Scattered in the woods are weathered buildings: the log cabin of Scots-Irish settlers, the brick slave quarters, the Greek Revival home of the Brattons' third generation. Thirty-six miles from Charlotte, the settlement was hushed on a recent weekday morning. Horses switched their tails in a meadow, and fat drops of water slid off the leaves. You could hear bees buzzing. Here, in one of the brick outbuildings, a retired kindergarten teacher named Kitty Wilson-Evans seems to slip into a second existence as a slave named Kessie. Over the 16 years she has worked at the plantation, both salaried and as a volunteer, Miss Kitty, as the other employees call her, has become so deeply connected to the place that when she feels sad, she sometimes drives here and sits alone in the slave quarters. For the first few years, Wilson-Evans' was the single black face among the white reenactors who mustered at Brattonsville, a tradition that goes back decades. But she gradually drew the admiration of local African Americans, inspiring a new generation of passionate volunteers. Charles Sanders, 36, grew up around plantations, and his feelings about them were not friendly. His great-great-grandfather was born into slavery; according to family lore, the white master would feed him "like a cat, under the table," Sanders said. As an adult, Sanders would speed up his car when he drove past a plantation. But that all changed when he visited Brattonsville four years ago and met Wilson-Evans, who told him that reenacting slave life could help resolve his anger about the past. "She said, 'If we don't tell our history, nobody else will,' " said Sanders, who began interpreting the slave groom opposite his wife, Tiffani. A similar impulse attracted Joyner, 58, who wears gold hoops in his ears. Joyner was born in Montclair, N.J., and works as a consultant to chemical companies. An ardent scholar of black history, he peppered recent conversations with references to reparations, Stepin Fetchit, the Weather Undergrou
[scifinoir2] Re: September 11th "National Firefighters Day"?
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > After you read below and you wish to add your name, please click forward, add your name to the bottom of the list and send it on to others. > > This is a nice idea but here is a better one, according to "snopes.com' For those still interested in establishing a National Firefighters Day, sponsoring a petition on the web rather than via e-mail is much more practical. Also, taking a few extra minutes to send letters to Congressional representatives rather than simply adding names to an e-petition would be a worthwhile effort. http://www.petitiononline.com/91101/petition.html Meta Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Star Wars fans have strong presence at theatre
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "But I keeping looking at them, and mixed in with that admiration is > one thought: "Man that theatre is going to *stink* with all the funk > up in there!" Maybe someone remembered to bring some 'Baby-wipes". Meta Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
