Re: CSSore Knee relief
that's a very strong acupuncture point. - Original Message - From: Leonardo van Goens To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: CSSore Knee relief Marshalee wrote: my knee was doing much better, until Wednesday when I made a mad dash to grab the ringing phone, then snap, pop! all over again. Respected Marshalee. For self-treatment and relief there is an easy to find spot, right under the ankle bone, in the middle of the side where the hurt is. Applying a little bit of pressure there, while searching the spot, you will find it almost directly. Now: apply the pressure NOT GOING OVER the pain-barrier. Use the three seconds method: press in little clockwise circles for a while, then release, and press again. So do three times. You can repeat this a few times a day. It does not matter what the cause of the trouble is: You will find relief. Take Care, and Good Luck to you FaithStFrancis licensed Reflexology therapist -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006
Re: CSSore Knee relief
The snapping is inside the joint. Apparently I have torn something loose in there. Will the point help that? The tear on the inside of my knee has healed, no pain any more Yay!! Marshalee Marshalee wrote: my knee was doing much better, until Wednesday when I made a mad dash to grab the ringing phone, then snap, pop! all over again. Respected Marshalee. For self-treatment and relief there is an easy to find spot, right under the ankle bone, in the middle of the side where the hurt is. Applying a little bit of pressure there, while searching the spot, you will find it almost directly. Now: apply the pressure NOT GOING OVER the pain-barrier. Use the three seconds method: press in little clockwise circles for a while, then release, and press again. So do three times. You can repeat this a few times a day. It does not matter what the cause of the trouble is: You will find relief. Take Care, and Good Luck to you FaithStFrancis licensed Reflexology therapist
Re: CSSore Knee ( Sunlight and Work )
Lends credence to the old adage of use it or lose it does it not? I believe the good Lord intended for the human body to work to maintain health, so much benefits when we do. Wayne Fugitt cwfug...@earthlink.net wrote: Morning Marshalee, At 08:40 AM 9/8/2006, you wrote: Xrays showed the beginnings of wearing out the meniscus cartilege, and the doc localized the pain in the ligament on the inside of my knee. I have followed the thread with interest. I have a question or two because I ask and observe these factors with all my friends and relatives who have any type of bone and joint problem. Over the last 3, 5 , or 10 years, how much time have you spent in the direct sunlight? This is important to me and others. The other question is, How much vitamin D and what type do you take every day? I have many friends who have bone, joint, and disk problems. These are old, young, slim, fat, you name it. All shapes, forms and fashions. The one thing they all have in common is this They have never worked a day in their life in the sun with their shirt off. Of course some of them have not worked, period. Some degree of stress on the bone is important. One friend makes the hay bales light, 50 to 65 pounds, so that his wife can handle them.This is very important to her bone health. She is 70 PLUS years old, no bone or joint problems, and still handles the hay bales. Work is a blessing in disguise. It must be done if one is to be heathy. Wayne - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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You get over the ridiculous idea that it's somehow wrong and just do it. Yea, the guys will look, but they look anyway. [In a mans eyes, a woman is always naked, nothing new, no big deal. Why not be admired? ] It's not like it's some unpleasant shock or anything. I had a lady come by that completely pulled, rebuilt and replaced her car engine in my shop totally naked. She didn't want to get her clothes dirty. I think it's easier to wash greasy clothes than greasy people, but that was how she wanted to do it. Very independent minded woman. Ode Yup -- I sure agree with that. But you failed to mention how us girls are supposed to work in the sun with our shirts off!! vbgMA ;-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/443 - Release Date: 9/11/2006
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
From: Wayne Fugitt cwfug...@earthlink.net One friend makes the hay bales light, 50 to 65 pounds, so that his wife can handle them.This is very important to her bone health. She is 70 PLUS years old, no bone or joint problems, and still handles the hay bales. This is hilarious to me Wayne -- in a good way. I'm *only * 61, and I can only handle hay bales by dragging them (thank goodness for hay-hooks). I don't know what our hay bales weigh, but I'm guessing maybe 40 to 50 lbs. This gal, whoever she is, is my hero!! Work is a blessing in disguise. It must be done if one is to be heathy. Yup -- I sure agree with that. But you failed to mention how us girls are supposed to work in the sun with our shirts off!! vbgMA ;-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
Here`s how I handle my hay: I cut a bale open, and put each pat in a plastic bag, then load the bags in my car. It is for my guinea pigs! One bale lasts ohh, 3 months or so. I have 20 piggies, with more coming soon. Piggies are so much cheaper than my Arabian horse was to feed, but gee, it is really hard to ride the tiny rascals! I have to tie one under each foot. I don`t go very far for some reason...Hmm. :o) Marshalee PS, I agree with Maynard Krebs: WORK said in a dismayed tone of voice... From: Wayne Fugitt cwfug...@earthlink.net One friend makes the hay bales light, 50 to 65 pounds, so that his wife can handle them.This is very important to her bone health. She is 70 PLUS years old, no bone or joint problems, and still handles the hay bales. This is hilarious to me Wayne -- in a good way. I'm *only * 61, and I can only handle hay bales by dragging them (thank goodness for hay-hooks). I don't know what our hay bales weigh, but I'm guessing maybe 40 to 50 lbs. This gal, whoever she is, is my hero!! Work is a blessing in disguise. It must be done if one is to be heathy. Yup -- I sure agree with that. But you failed to mention how us girls are supposed to work in the sun with our shirts off!! vbgMA ;-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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this sure is an excellent site thanks for posting itdeb ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.earthclinic.com This website has tons of home remedies for everything. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
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Sorry about the triple message, computer is really wonky this morning. Or I am... Marshalee
Re: CSSore Knee update
Marshalee, You might try bromelain instead of or in addition to papaya. Here is some info on bromelain: http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/bromelain1-4.html Whenever any recommendation says to use papaya, I use bromelain instead. sol Marshalee Hallett wrote: Hi, Folks, Well my knee was doing much better, until Wednesday when I made a mad dash to grab the ringing phone, then snap, pop! all over again. So yesterday I went to a doctor. Xrays showed the beginnings of wearing out the meniscus cartilege, and the doc localized the pain in the ligament on the inside of my knee. He put a patch on it which put cortisone right through the skin, and today it does feel lots better. I took no pain meds at all yesterday. I started to take papaya extract yesterday, and noticed last night that the foot swelling was much less. Now if it can all heal and get better!! I`m going to try swimming Monday, and will get a rebounder when I can. Thanks again, you nice folks, for all the input, you are the greatest!! Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
Well, I`ve been told to stay out of the sun as much as possible, with my fair Danish skin, I burn like mad, especially at the 4000 ft altitude of Provo. I get Vitamin D in my supplement, 400 IU, but am not sure what form it is. I`m a lady, I don`t think I`ll try working with my shirt off...LOL. Marshalee Morning Marshalee, At 08:40 AM 9/8/2006, you wrote: Xrays showed the beginnings of wearing out the meniscus cartilege, and the doc localized the pain in the ligament on the inside of my knee. I have followed the thread with interest. I have a question or two because I ask and observe these factors with all my friends and relatives who have any type of bone and joint problem. Over the last 3, 5 , or 10 years, how much time have you spent in the direct sunlight? This is important to me and others. The other question is, How much vitamin D and what type do you take every day? I have many friends who have bone, joint, and disk problems. These are old, young, slim, fat, you name it. All shapes, forms and fashions. The one thing they all have in common is this They have never worked a day in their life in the sun with their shirt off. Of course some of them have not worked, period. Some degree of stress on the bone is important. One friend makes the hay bales light, 50 to 65 pounds, so that his wife can handle them.This is very important to her bone health. She is 70 PLUS years old, no bone or joint problems, and still handles the hay bales. Work is a blessing in disguise. It must be done if one is to be heathy. Wayne
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
Greetings, fellow Dane Marshalee! ;-) I have found a most marvelous skin protector that allows Vit D through to the skin. Its coconut oil. I spent 4 hours doing yard work and didn't get even the slightest burn, where I would normally be a crispy critter. Hope this is helpful, Raine Marshalee Hallett wrote: Well, I`ve been told to stay out of the sun as much as possible, with my fair Danish skin, I burn like mad, especially at the 4000 ft altitude of Provo. I get Vitamin D in my supplement, 400 IU, but am not sure what form it is. I`m a lady, I don`t think I`ll try working with my shirt off...LOL. Marshalee
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
Hi In the book entitled Synthesis in Healing by Judy Jacka the author mentions that the Spleen Chakra relates to the absorption of the Sun. This chakra should have at least 15 minutes exposure to the Sun once or twice a week. The Spleen Chakra sends energy to the minor chakras , one of which is the knee chakras. Could this help knee problelms? Robert - Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
When husband and I were walking our usual mile on the neighborhood streets I heard a pop and had pain. I thought I'd wait to go to the orthopaedic surgeon and hope to heal. I went 3 months later and found that the meniscus had torn and then the rough area was sort of chewing up the cartilage on the bone end. It would have been much better to go early. The surgeon said it's just old age...parts wear out (guess I was about 48 at the time). He said squatting is bad for the knee. Knee felt better after surgery to remove 20% of the meniscus but now the cartilage is mostly gone from the medial knee joint. I've spent lots of time in the sun without sunscreen because it bothers my eyes and breaks my face out. The newer ones are better. I mow and prune, do mulch and plant flowers, plus used to walk for exercise.(Seldom have been out in the sun without a shirt hehehe, but it's usually a sleeveless one with shorts) My bone scan a couple years ago showed a tiny bit of loss (hip bone), but barely. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee update ( Sunlight and Work )
Oh, the joys of life - and I was looking forward to retirement in a few years! Dennis Wayne Fugitt wrote: Work is a blessing in disguise. It must be done if one is to be heathy. Wayne
Re: CSSore Knee
I didn't make that clear did I. I put my hands on the door frame...the sides...but higher than my head. I think Wayne has all the posts saved. I don't have it. stuff At 08:30 AM 9/4/2006, Shelli wrote: Is that all there is to it? Do you put your hands on the top of the door frame steady yourself? Do you, by any chance, have the post? Shelli Stuff wrote: Some time ago Brooks Bradley posted to this list what I call the Easy Bounce Routine. I've been doing it ever since, at least once a day. It consists of standing in a door way with your hands over your head and simply bouncing 200 times on your heels. Simple, dirt cheap, works for me. Who could ask for anything more?...from the tune of the same name. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
Re: CSSore Knee
Look into IONIC DETOXIFICATION. You put your feet into a thing of water with a ion device it draws out toxins,heavy metals other stuff.A lot of chiropractors are doing it.Its about $30 to $75 per treatment.Heres a photo i posted on curezone.com You can buy these devices on Ebay $299 up. The one they used on me cost $747 on Ebay.I intend to buy one soon. http://curezone.com/ig/search.asp?myquery=ionic+detoxification __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Brickey wrote: I still get a foot itch that can't be relieved by rubbing. I found that stretching my ankle for five seconds s eems to help, I stetch forward , toes out and toes in. A dancer said that exercise helped her feet. My wife has used a magnet taped over the itch. Relief is pretty quick and lets her sleep. You have to sure you put the correct side of the magnet by your foot: If you suspend it by a string so that it aligns itself with the earth's magnetic field, the side that faces south is the one to use. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Is that all there is to it? Do you put your hands on the top of the door frame steady yourself? Do you, by any chance, have the post? Shelli Stuff wrote: Some time ago Brooks Bradley posted to this list what I call the Easy Bounce Routine. I've been doing it ever since, at least once a day. It consists of standing in a door way with your hands over your head and simply bouncing 200 times on your heels. Simple, dirt cheap, works for me. Who could ask for anything more?...from the tune of the same name. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshalee said: I guess I`ll try the rebounder... You won't be sorry Marshalee. Not only should it help relieve the swelling, but you will begin to develop a level of *fitness* that might help all kinds of things. Plus -- when you finish a Rebound exercise session, you feel GOOD!!! MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Some time ago Brooks Bradley posted to this list what I call the Easy Bounce Routine. I've been doing it ever since, at least once a day. It consists of standing in a door way with your hands over your head and simply bouncing 200 times on your heels. Simple, dirt cheap, works for me. Who could ask for anything more?...from the tune of the same name. stuff At 05:33 PM 9/1/2006, Mike D. wrote: Dear Marshalee, You write: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one of the best exercise options you have with your current issues. For one example, the Reboundair quarter fold costs about $300. It's guaranteed for users up to 400 pounds. Buy the stabilizer bar with it and you'll have something to hang onto while you get your sea legs. See: http://www.ultimate-rebound.com/ You're exactly right. Anything of lesser quality will be destroyed in short order. Stuff from Wal-Mart or similar sources won't hold up. All you need to do is stand on it and bounce gently up and down. Your feet never need to leave the mat. A few minutes at a time, a few times a day to begin with. As you gain stamina and confidence you'll find yourself doing more. It's easy to do while watching TV. It's fun. Your lymphatic circulation will be helped immensely. It should also help your joints in the long run. Not cheap, but a good value. Might not be possible for you, budget- wise, but I'm confident it would help you. Good luck, ma'am! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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http://www.earthclinic.com This website has tons of home remedies for everything. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sore Knee Brain damage (shown on MRI) from the Lyme Disease tells me I have weird feet. They don`t sense properly; I have some places that can`t feel, others are hypersensitive.They swell easily. The skin is shiny. It is hard to walk, or stand for longer than 5 minutes. The feet are puffy and tight, even when I just get up in the morning. Even after being up on my adjustable bed for 3 hours. No real pain, just more annoying than anything. If they really hurt, I`d have them cut off!!! Marshalee Acupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. I`m on SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though! Marshalee www.acufinder.com VMANN: whats wrong with the feet? vigilius haufniensis
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Update: My knee is feeling lots better. The pain is easing and it isn`t snapping like it was. Good old Tincture of Time. I think I will try a rebounder, in hopes that it can help the feet. I appreciate all the great ideas and input. You guys are great!!! Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sore Kneebrain damage? sounds like that's the issue. whats up with that? - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Brain damage (shown on MRI) from the Lyme Disease tells me I have weird feet. They don`t sense properly; I have some places that can`t feel, others are hypersensitive.They swell easily. The skin is shiny. It is hard to walk, or stand for longer than 5 minutes. The feet are puffy and tight, even when I just get up in the morning. Even after being up on my adjustable bed for 3 hours. No real pain, just more annoying than anything. If they really hurt, I`d have them cut off!!! Marshalee Acupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. I`m on SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though! Marshalee www.acufinder.com VMANN: whats wrong with the feet? vigilius haufniensis -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
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Sore Knee Lyme Disease. Marshalee brain damage? sounds like that's the issue. whats up with that?
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This is where I buy most of my bulk herbs, empty capsules, and etc, and I am very happy with their products, prices, and services. Only down side is that you have to buy a pound at a time. I store mine in air tight mason canning jars with a desiccant for longevity. http://www.herbalcom.com/store.php3?list=catssession=3588aad2d496da4e8068354105aae61b I bought my home capper machine from: http://www.spicediscounters.com/gelcaps.html Yes it is very tedious work but I am retired and do not have the money to buy ready made. F57 Capsule Machine size 0 Automatically joins and ejects filled capsules-comes with Tamper $19.95 +SH I make my own tinctures also using Ian Doc Shillington ND formula's: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Herbal_Remedies/ Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti - Original Message - From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee may i ask where you get bulk cayenne at 130,000 hu? thank you,jim Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote: Osiyo Marshalee! Hello Marshalee! I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of cayenne tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some stinging from the cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? lemon juice will remove it, but take care on where you put in on and how much will run down. If you need to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is great to start out with. I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy bulk by the pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it is scarce and costly. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I found that walking or running in my swimming pool seems to help. Jumping up and down in the water makes acid reflux worse. The pressure of the water pushes my stomach up the wrong way. With acid reflux I need to get the stomach down, a rebounder is a better choice. I was told in the 1960's that my knee cartilage was nearly gone and I would have bone against bone, DR said in 10 years I would need both knee joints replaced. I was babying using the knees so I said if I am losing them I might as well use them. I used a stationary bike then started to jog 3 miles per day fast enough to get 30 Cooper points per week. Knees seemed to get better by jogging. I broke both big toes ridding my 3 wheeler. That was the end of jogging. I just ordered a Needak rebounder from ebay, $176 + $35 shipping with 5 free gifts. I tried CMO and my bad knee seemed to improve on only the second day. Planting christmas trees I could only get back up with one knee, the other was so bad. My good knee started to hurt. That would be the end of tree planting with two bad knees.CMO fixed my bad knee so I can now get back up using it, my other knee was helped about 60%. I know can stand up using either knee. I am now going fishing for bullfrogs for my pond. Tadpoles should be big enough to catch in my crawfish trap We had real warm weather where the frogs laid their eggs then a cold spell came and very few eggs hatched. I had 5 sets of eggs in my pond and I don't think any hatched. My KOI eat the tadpoles. I make a water type drink with 1/3 CS, T lemon juice per cup, two or three sprinkles of cayenne per cup the rest 2/3 of water. I try to drink 8 cups of this per day. I was using Gatorade but was getting too much sugar. I tried cayenne in warm water and never could get past 1/8 of a teaspoon of the 40,000 BTU cayenne. I also add cayenne to coffee or tea. I still get a foot itch that can't be relieved by rubbing. I found that stretching my ankle for five seconds s eems to help, I stetch forward , toes out and toes in. A dancer said that exercise helped her feet. Brickey.
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I would advise you get to a Dr. to have that checked. It may just be a sprain, but if you tore the bursa sac then it will not heal like a sprain, but will continue to swell and hurt. The only way to check for a bursa sac rupture is with an x-ray at least to my knowledge and the usual procedure is a shot of cortizone? directly into the injury. I know this due to my ex having done this to his knee, he is 28 now and is still fighting with this problem healing to some degree, though it has mostly healed after almost 2 1/2 yrs. he wasnt able to get the proper treatment at the time, and later it took longer to heal due to further damaging the tear One symtom he had was extreme tenderness when he set weight on that knee, though i dont know if they are all due to have this symptom, though if it has this, I wouldnt hesitate but would immediately find a Dr. Hope you heal soon, whatever the problem.Lisa. Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. - Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
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It is much better today, no popping and little pain. Thanks! Marshalee I would advise you get to a Dr. to have that checked. It may just be a sprain, but if you tore the bursa sac then it will not heal like a sprain, but will continue to swell and hurt. The only way to check for a bursa sac rupture is with an x-ray at least to my knowledge and the usual procedure is a shot of cortizone? directly into the injury. I know this due to my ex having done this to his knee, he is 28 now and is still fighting with this problem healing to some degree, though it has mostly healed after almost 2 1/2 yrs. he wasnt able to get the proper treatment at the time, and later it took longer to heal due to further damaging the tear One symtom he had was extreme tenderness when he set weight on that knee, though i dont know if they are all due to have this symptom, though if it has this, I wouldnt hesitate but would immediately find a Dr. Hope you heal soon, whatever the problem.Lisa. Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
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Sore KneeDear Marshalee, don't know if this will work for you, but I was recently told that papaya tablets will help edema/swelling of the feet. I have had terrible swellings in my feet for over 6 years now, the only relief I got in the past was taking the diuretics the doctors gave me. I tried the papaya tablets, and they are working for me. I don't have to take the diuretics any more! and as time goes by, I am feeling more and more now, can walk normally, go up and down stairs normally...I do have feeling on the bottom of my feet, at times now, I have feeling on the top too. plmk if it works for you too. I am taking about 5 chewable tablets twice a day. k Kay Kelly 3550 Centerville Hwy, Suite 107-115, Snellville, GA 30039 v: (770) 978-7948 -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@izikoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Brain damage (shown on MRI) from the Lyme Disease tells me I have weird feet. They don`t sense properly; I have some places that can`t feel, others are hypersensitive.They swell easily. The skin is shiny. It is hard to walk, or stand for longer than 5 minutes. The feet are puffy and tight, even when I just get up in the morning. Even after being up on my adjustable bed for 3 hours. No real pain, just more annoying than anything. If they really hurt, I`d have them cut off!!! Marshalee Acupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. I`m on SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though! Marshalee www.acufinder.com VMANN: whats wrong with the feet? vigilius haufniensis -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
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Tips for improving lymph drainage; dry skin brushing with a natural brush massage hot/cold hydrotherapy to increase circulation, and therefore lymph movement rebounding on a mini trampoline cayenne tincture to increase circulation I used all of these methods when I had Mastitis (breast infection) a few months ago. Worked like a charm. -Raine Marshalee Hallett wrote: Yup. Are the lymphs having trouble draining?...deb *//*
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Marshalee, You don't have to literally *jump*, you can simply bounce. Gravity is very much your friend on this one. Check with your local Freecycle group and see if you can't get a rebounder for free. (That's how I got mine.) -Raine Marshalee Hallett wrote: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee
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Sasha wrote: The first url will take you to an ebay full page of Needak Rebounders, and the second url will take you to an ebay dealer that sells Needak for $176, has 100% acceptance from 4200 sales. That's not bad. You can't beat the price, but you might have to order a holding bar. Many people simply place the rebounder by a tall-backed chair and hold on to the top of the chair while they lightly bounce. Works just as well like that without the bar. http://tinyurl.com/l25jc http://tinyurl.com/ha5bg I stand corrected. The needaks are available at e-bay! I guess I'd pretty much decided I liked the reboundair and they are not to be found on e-bay. In any case, go with quality. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think water aerobics is the best choice of exercise for overweight people or anyone who is older and shouldn't be stressing their joints. It's fun too. The cost of joining the YMCA is around $50 a month, but they have discount rates for lower income people. I know overweight women just hate to be seen in public in a swim suit, but many are very overweight in the older group and no one really notices or cares. You get right into the water and nothing shows but your neck and head. You can get a suit at low cost at Ross or some other discount store, or order one with a little skirt. Vigorous movement in the water will make you feel so much stronger and better. Many say their joints feel much better on the days they exercise. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sore Knee Acupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. I`m on SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though! Marshalee www.acufinder.com - Original Message - From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi, If I could stand up, knowing that a mini trampoline might help my lymph problems, then I would clamber up and try. Other people say even a slight bouncing, not even off the trampoline, will help lymph drainage. Also, I would consider the alternatives. But, those are just my thoughts. Jean ** Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
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I spent more than 2K for a bed which raises and lowers, (and that was a cheap one!) It is comfy as all getout, but it doesn`t help the feet at all. I still wake up with puffy feet! I call them stuffed-up, `cause that is what they feel like: my nose when I have a cold! Arrggh! Marshalee PS, I have tried several modes of massage therapy, acupuncture, the bed, various shoes and lack thereof, and vitamins, nothin helps. I guess I`ll try the rebounder... One more thougth Marshalee is raising the head of your bed four or five inches helps drain the lymphs too.debbie
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I agree, Pat. My own backyard pool in Phoenix is what kept me alive when I was in active Lyme, from `91 to `95. We have no YMCA here, but there is a city pool with a class at noon. I have a suit, but I just haven`t found a round tuit. Maybe Monday... :o) Marshalee I think water aerobics is the best choice of exercise for overweight people or anyone who is older and shouldn't be stressing their joints. It's fun too. The cost of joining the YMCA is around $50 a month, but they have discount rates for lower income people. I know overweight women just hate to be seen in public in a swim suit, but many are very overweight in the older group and no one really notices or cares. You get right into the water and nothing shows but your neck and head. You can get a suit at low cost at Ross or some other discount store, or order one with a little skirt. Vigorous movement in the water will make you feel so much stronger and better. Many say their joints feel much better on the days they exercise. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I know a man who tried acupuncture for a sore knee tendon. He said it immediately relieved the pain...but the relief only lasted one day. He returned for another session, said he got complete relief, but it too lasted only one day. So he's never tried it again. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sore KneeHi Marshalee, I suggest you go to Dr. Mercola Site: mercola.com and sign in with your e-mail--He is very generous with his Free Newsletter (largest in the world, I believe). He has a wonderful book lots of good recipes on Site and a Diet: The No Grain diet which can help you effectively lose weight, IF you follow his simple directions and leave sugar and most grains from your diet. It's NOT magic, but requires you to be a good patient and good to yourself. You get to eat lots of good food, and still lose weight. Best regards, ___ Richard Harris, 59Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@izikoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee Hi, I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph drainage. Jean
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Do you have a baker's cyst? http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bakers-cyst/DS00448 - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee I agree, Pat. My own backyard pool in Phoenix is what kept me alive when I was in active Lyme, from `91 to `95. We have no YMCA here, but there is a city pool with a class at noon. I have a suit, but I just haven`t found a round tuit. Maybe Monday... :o) Marshalee I think water aerobics is the best choice of exercise for overweight people or anyone who is older and shouldn't be stressing their joints. It's fun too. The cost of joining the YMCA is around $50 a month, but they have discount rates for lower income people. I know overweight women just hate to be seen in public in a swim suit, but many are very overweight in the older group and no one really notices or cares. You get right into the water and nothing shows but your neck and head. You can get a suit at low cost at Ross or some other discount store, or order one with a little skirt. Vigorous movement in the water will make you feel so much stronger and better. Many say their joints feel much better on the days they exercise. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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MikeI wonder if it's the same for everyone...when you post, it shows up about 10 emails down from the last received. If I haven't read them all, often I read your response before I read the emails you're responding to. Doesn't matter, I'm used to it, and you're very good at making it clear what you're answering. Just curious. Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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For relief of pain and and for its anti-inflammatory effects, I use Traumeel homeopathic ointment. Very effective. Rub it in good and liberally three times a day. No known side effects, very safe, and far more effective than anything else I have found. I did not have similar success with the Traumeel liquid that is taken internally. I may have had a slight allergic reaction to the internal stuff, but no reaction to external application of the ointment. Del - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
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Hi Del: Great Observations. It's not your imagination, the internal homeopathic tincture doesn't work very well. The Traumeel ointment is lightyears better than anything else I've personally tested. It's one of the VERY few homeopathic remedies that I've found which actually works. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee For relief of pain and and for its anti-inflammatory effects, I use Traumeel homeopathic ointment. Very effective. Rub it in good and liberally three times a day. No known side effects, very safe, and far more effective than anything else I have found. I did not have similar success with the Traumeel liquid that is taken internally. I may have had a slight allergic reaction to the internal stuff, but no reaction to external application of the ointment. Del - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
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TRAUMEEL (from the firm: HEEL) Arnica D2, Calendula D2, Hamamelis D2, Millefolium D3, Belladonna D4, Aconitum D3, Mercurius D8, Hepar sulfuris D5, Chamomilla D3, Symphytum D3, Echinacea D2, Hypericum D2. I like the products of : Heel. Trudy Toepassing - Original Message - From: Jason To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Hi Del: Great Observations. It's not your imagination, the internal homeopathic tincture doesn't work very well. The Traumeel ointment is lightyears better than anything else I've personally tested. It's one of the VERY few homeopathic remedies that I've found which actually works. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: d...@altsystem.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee For relief of pain and and for its anti-inflammatory effects, I use Traumeel homeopathic ointment. Very effective. Rub it in good and liberally three times a day. No known side effects, very safe, and far more effective than anything else I have found. I did not have similar success with the Traumeel liquid that is taken internally. I may have had a slight allergic reaction to the internal stuff, but no reaction to external application of the ointment. Del - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
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Sore KneeOsiyo Marshalee! Hello Marshalee! I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of cayenne tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some stinging from the cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? lemon juice will remove it, but take care on where you put in on and how much will run down. If you need to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is great to start out with. I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy bulk by the pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it is scarce and costly. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti
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Yes the rebounder will do its job with even very gentle bouncing where you dont even leave the mat. What it does is activate the lymph system which pumps lymph using a bunch of check-valves and the up and down motion compresses the vales and lymph so they open and close and the lymph moves along the lymph vessels. there are more lymph vessels in the body than blood vessels and parallel the blood vessels everywhere and then some. So the gravity fluctuation of bouncing is what makes them work. We humans are running animals and when you run your body bounces up and down. people that move very little, which is most of us, then have very slow moving lymph. If the lymph moves very fast you get almost instant healing. Our sedentary lifestyle is what brings on all the disease. V Dan Nave wrote: This sounds silly, but be careful about using a rebounder... An older person I know compressed his vertebrae using one. I believe I developed a mild case of plantars fasciitis by really overdoing it with bare feet. Go slowly and reasonably gently. Dan M. G. Devour wrote: Deborah writes: How about one from ebay maybe? I browsed on e-bay for a while before I finally popped for my non- folding reboundair model direct from the manufacturer. I could never quite satisfy myself that the quality of construction on the various copies would be good enough. A reboundair or needak from a private party would come up so rarely that I just didn't want the hassle of waiting, and the selling prices were not much better than the frequent 'sale' prices. I'm still over 200 pounds but I don't feel like the reboundair even notices me! grin Good unit. M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Dear Marshalee, You write: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one of the best exercise options you have with your current issues. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sore KneeAcupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. I`m on SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though! Marshalee www.acufinder.com VMANN: whats wrong with the feet? vigilius haufniensis
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I know a man who tried acupuncture for a sore knee tendon. He said it immediately relieved the pain...but the relief only lasted one day. He returned for another session, said he got complete relief, but it too lasted only one day. So he's never tried it again. VMANN: what was wrong with the knee? knee pain is one of the easiest things for acupuncture to treat. vigilius haufniensis took away my neck pain in one hour. blinding pain i had for 6 months. never came back. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sore KneeDMSO can result in deep itching the next day. i mix it with aloe or apply aloe afterwards. - Original Message - From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Osiyo Marshalee! Hello Marshalee! I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of cayenne tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some stinging from the cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? lemon juice will remove it, but take care on where you put in on and how much will run down. If you need to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is great to start out with. I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy bulk by the pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it is scarce and costly. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
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may i ask where you get bulk cayenne at 130,000 hu? thank you,jim Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote: Osiyo Marshalee! Hello Marshalee! I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of cayenne tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some stinging from the cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? lemon juice will remove it, but take care on where you put in on and how much will run down. If you need to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is great to start out with. I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy bulk by the pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it is scarce and costly. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Marshalee, You write: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one of the best exercise options you have with your current issues. For one example, the Reboundair quarter fold costs about $300. It's guaranteed for users up to 400 pounds. Buy the stabilizer bar with it and you'll have something to hang onto while you get your sea legs. See: http://www.ultimate-rebound.com/ You're exactly right. Anything of lesser quality will be destroyed in short order. Stuff from Wal-Mart or similar sources won't hold up. All you need to do is stand on it and bounce gently up and down. Your feet never need to leave the mat. A few minutes at a time, a few times a day to begin with. As you gain stamina and confidence you'll find yourself doing more. It's easy to do while watching TV. It's fun. Your lymphatic circulation will be helped immensely. It should also help your joints in the long run. Not cheap, but a good value. Might not be possible for you, budget- wise, but I'm confident it would help you. Good luck, ma'am! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Are the lymphs having trouble draining?...deb Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work, nor has anything else I`ve tried. It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up. Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help... Marshalee Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on maybe?...debbie - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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Yup. Are the lymphs having trouble draining?...deb Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work, nor has anything else I`ve tried. It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up. Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help... Marshalee Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on maybe?...debbie -- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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Sore Knee Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee Hi, I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph drainage. Jean
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Sore Kneewww.acufinder.com - Original Message - From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi, If I could stand up, knowing that a mini trampoline might help my lymph problems, then I would clamber up and try. Other people say even a slight bouncing, not even off the trampoline, will help lymph drainage. Also, I would consider the alternatives. But, those are just my thoughts. Jean ** Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
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Sore Kneetrampolines are great, Got my kids (age 3 and 9) a inflatable Bounce House. Geez, do they have the energy. wish I could recycle that :)) Even just standing and raising your heels off the floor a few times, helps. Raise your hands over your head, shake and lower. The lympathics are motion based so most movement would be helpful. CS would also help as its made with distilled water, which helps leech all those stored toxins in the lymphs. The best idea is a massage from a good friend. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSore Knee Hi, I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph drainage. Jean Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work, nor has anything else I`ve tried. It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up. Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help... Marshalee
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You know another thought if you can get to a pool and bounce in it as well that would helpdebbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee Hi, I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph drainage. Jean - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
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One more thougth Marshalee is raising the head of your bed four or five inches helps drain the lymphs too.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. Marshalee Hi, I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph drainage. Jean - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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How about one from ebay maybe? M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Dear Marshalee, You write: Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp... sigh. You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one of the best exercise options you have with your current issues. For one example, the Reboundair quarter fold costs about $300. It's guaranteed for users up to 400 pounds. Buy the stabilizer bar with it and you'll have something to hang onto while you get your sea legs. See: http://www.ultimate-rebound.com/ You're exactly right. Anything of lesser quality will be destroyed in short order. Stuff from Wal-Mart or similar sources won't hold up. All you need to do is stand on it and bounce gently up and down. Your feet never need to leave the mat. A few minutes at a time, a few times a day to begin with. As you gain stamina and confidence you'll find yourself doing more. It's easy to do while watching TV. It's fun. Your lymphatic circulation will be helped immensely. It should also help your joints in the long run. Not cheap, but a good value. Might not be possible for you, budget- wise, but I'm confident it would help you. Good luck, ma'am! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
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Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help? I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other day ...it takes time...really. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
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Yes, I do take glucosamine and MSM for the joints, especially after taking the CMO. Good stuff, all of them! Ibu has never bothered me. My BP is fine. I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is that right? It is feeling lots better this morning, now if the pops will stop... Thanks!!! Marshalee Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help? I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other day ...it takes time...really. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
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Thanks, Debbie! I usually go barefoot in the house, which is most of the time. I don`t work, so when I wear shoes, it is to the store or like that. My feet are constantly swollen, so more and more now, I wear some hard-soled slippers out. Oh the joys of maturing. sigh... At least I made a new friend while at Walmart yesterday, while buying some zinc for my eyes!! Marshalee You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
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When something like that happens to me, I put undiluted DMSO straight from the bottle on it. Painting it on with my fingers. Pain is gone in minutes...I get mine from the horse feed store.. On 8/30/06, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Usually the hip going out of alignment causes a knee problem. If you stand in front of a mirror and close your eyes for about ten seconds, then look at the shoulders in the mirror you will see one shoulder higher than the other. This usually means the hip is out of alignment. The first two web sites have free exercises you can do for the hip. The last one has a book of exercises that are well illustrated, the cost is $3.95. http://www.balancethecenter.com/exercise.html http://popweb.ph.inter.net/~divetom/dorn%20method_files/Page521.htm http://www.reliefmart.com/pain-book.htm Robert - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
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I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is that right? Yes that's right...try it Marshallee and take some rest. But 24 hour is VERY muchI think one hour is enough or as long the ice stays...also good sometimes for backache ...first ice and later heatso the brains don' t know whats going on ...but it heals. So different to explain in your language...I hope you understand. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Yes, I do take glucosamine and MSM for the joints, especially after taking the CMO. Good stuff, all of them! Ibu has never bothered me. My BP is fine. I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is that right? It is feeling lots better this morning, now if the pops will stop... Thanks!!! Marshalee Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help? I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other day ...it takes time...really. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
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www.acufinder.com - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
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Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on maybe?...debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Thanks, Debbie! I usually go barefoot in the house, which is most of the time. I don`t work, so when I wear shoes, it is to the store or like that. My feet are constantly swollen, so more and more now, I wear some hard-soled slippers out. Oh the joys of maturing. sigh... At least I made a new friend while at Walmart yesterday, while buying some zinc for my eyes!! Marshalee You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work, nor has anything else I`ve tried. It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up. Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help... Marshalee Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on maybe?...debbie
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You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
