Re: CS>Re: Iodine and thyroid and cancer

[ASL raVen]

Yes, I have a severe reaction to Iodine, whether in food form or medicinal
form --- I got violently sick. Even ingesting salt with iodine wipes me
out. So, would recommend meeting any thyroid specialist who has
studied Dr Datis
Kharrazian, DHSc, DC, MS work about iodine overdose &  explains extensively
in his book.  http://thyroidbook.com/

Well worth the read! Thanks to him, from a different doctor that I worked
with who studied Dr K's protocol -- I am back to halfway normal and can now
work part time after so many years of wasted chronic illnesses. Guess,
better late than never.


RaVen
Hashimoto's Thyroiditis Warrior


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Evan Jones <evanj.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ron wrote:
> > I believe that iodine can effect a breast
> cancer cure to the extent that one is iodine deficient.
> > The thyroid and the breast compete for iodine and the thyroid will win
> and if there is not enough iodine to go around then the breast is
> vulnerable to cancer.
>
> While there are lot of claims that Iodine can "cure" thyroid and
> cancer, the claim is a dangerous over-simplification. Ray Peat warns
> that overdosing iodine actually causes the thyroid gland  to shut
> down.(The Wolff-Chaikoff effect, which is taught to most doctors in
> medical school.)
> http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2011/10/12/the-myth-of-
> iodine-deficiency-an-interview-with-dr-ray-peat/
>
> When Peat warns us of overdoing iodine, he may assume that we are
> eating his recommended totally PUFA free diet. (Something which is
> impossible if you eat any kind of food processed in factories or in
> restaurants.)
>
> Ray Peat follower Scott Schlegel explains that iodine intake is
> clouded by the excess non essential toxic man-made halogens in our
> environment e.g. bromine, flouride, chlorine, which our cells all too
> readily absorb, because they too easily confuse the stuff for iodine.
> Explained rather clearly in this article by Dr L. Wilson:
> http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/IODINE.htm
>
>  Schlegel says that some of us may also benefit from supplementing
> with vitamins B1 and B2 (thiamine and niacin).
> http://www.scottschlegel.net/why-i-take-iodine/
>
> After  all that, I don't know if I need to supplement iodine or not!
> Wilson says to supplement with a little kelp.
> http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/KELP.HTM
>
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CS>Iodine and thyroid and cancer

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

There was a very interesting discussion on a goat list (Nubian of course),
about how to treat goats for iodine deficiency, by swabbing the underside
of their tails and checking in 24 hours.  If no iodine could be seen,
treat again, or until you could see the iodine color from the day before.
I know goats love iodine salt blocks more than any other mineral.

Fluoride is a particularly dark cloud, even though I¹m not exposed to this
toxic by product.  People who are, assume they are safe if they don¹t
drink this poison but the skin is susceptible also and how this genocide
can continue on is beyond me.

Keeping colloidal silver in mind, a brilliant man told me that when he cut
himself to the bone, colloidal silver caused stem cells to regenerate
healing at warp speed.

Jean



On 11/8/16, 12:06 AM, "Evan Jones"  wrote:

>After  all that, I don't know if I need to supplement iodine or not!




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CS>Re: Iodine and thyroid and cancer

[Evan Jones]

Ron wrote:
> I believe that iodine can effect a breast
cancer cure to the extent that one is iodine deficient.
> The thyroid and the breast compete for iodine and the thyroid will win
and if there is not enough iodine to go around then the breast is
vulnerable to cancer.

While there are lot of claims that Iodine can "cure" thyroid and
cancer, the claim is a dangerous over-simplification. Ray Peat warns
that overdosing iodine actually causes the thyroid gland  to shut
down.(The Wolff-Chaikoff effect, which is taught to most doctors in
medical school.)
http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2011/10/12/the-myth-of-iodine-deficiency-an-interview-with-dr-ray-peat/

When Peat warns us of overdoing iodine, he may assume that we are
eating his recommended totally PUFA free diet. (Something which is
impossible if you eat any kind of food processed in factories or in
restaurants.)

Ray Peat follower Scott Schlegel explains that iodine intake is
clouded by the excess non essential toxic man-made halogens in our
environment e.g. bromine, flouride, chlorine, which our cells all too
readily absorb, because they too easily confuse the stuff for iodine.
Explained rather clearly in this article by Dr L. Wilson:
http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/IODINE.htm

 Schlegel says that some of us may also benefit from supplementing
with vitamins B1 and B2 (thiamine and niacin).
http://www.scottschlegel.net/why-i-take-iodine/

After  all that, I don't know if I need to supplement iodine or not!
Wilson says to supplement with a little kelp.
http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/KELP.HTM


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CS>Nenah Thyroid function

[Dr. James McCourt]

Hi Nenah,

I too would appreciate a good thyroid pro in N.W. Los Angeles or central AZ.

Thanks

Jim

 

From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:04 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Was: Bronchitis probably; Is: Thyroid function

 

Gladys Williams wrote: Hey Nenah--Don't know what city you're located in,
but am pretty sure you know the Naturopath scene.  Im located in Bronx, NY.
Am desperately seeking a reasonably priced "GOOD" Practitioner for my
daughter and myself.  Im 69 and on a fixed income.  My daughter is 50 and
sitll working. Over the years I have tried various Naturopaths that proved
to be way too expensive and ineffective.  I would run out of money after
taking many, many diagnostic tests and "so called" treatments that had
little or no effect on my condition.  

 

According to your Thyroid article, out of 36 possible symptoms I had 17 and
my daughter 13.  I continue taking tests and they are all NORMAL, my
daughter too. So no Internist will treat you for a disease that does not
show up.  You advise in the article that it is too complex a problem to self
treat so?  I have had this for years.  Don't know what to do???  Can you
suggest a Naturopath that is honest, qualified and reasonably priced in my
area???   I drive so traveling is no problem.

 

Thank you in advance for any advice.  

-

Hi Gladys. I almost missed your email! In the future, if you or anyone wants
to get hold of me, please put my name in the header of the email so I'll
spot it.

 

Anyway, I responded privately. Check your inbox. In the meantime, for anyone
wanting more information on thyroid function, a good book is Stop the
Thyroid Madness.

 

Nenah 

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

healing from cancer and other diseases 

with non-invasive, effective technology

suppressed by the medical cartel until recently

 <http://www.nenahsylver.com> www.nenahsylver.com

 

 

 

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CS>Was: Bronchitis probably; Is: Thyroid function

[Nenah Sylver]

Gladys Williams wrote: Hey Nenah--Don't know what city you're located in,
but am pretty sure you know the Naturopath scene.  Im located in Bronx, NY.
Am desperately seeking a reasonably priced "GOOD" Practitioner for my
daughter and myself.  Im 69 and on a fixed income.  My daughter is 50 and
sitll working. Over the years I have tried various Naturopaths that proved
to be way too expensive and ineffective.  I would run out of money after
taking many, many diagnostic tests and "so called" treatments that had
little or no effect on my condition.  

 

According to your Thyroid article, out of 36 possible symptoms I had 17 and
my daughter 13.  I continue taking tests and they are all NORMAL, my
daughter too. So no Internist will treat you for a disease that does not
show up.  You advise in the article that it is too complex a problem to self
treat so?  I have had this for years.  Don't know what to do???  Can you
suggest a Naturopath that is honest, qualified and reasonably priced in my
area???   I drive so traveling is no problem.

 

Thank you in advance for any advice.  

-

Hi Gladys. I almost missed your email! In the future, if you or anyone wants
to get hold of me, please put my name in the header of the email so I'll
spot it.

 

Anyway, I responded privately. Check your inbox. In the meantime, for anyone
wanting more information on thyroid function, a good book is Stop the
Thyroid Madness.

 

Nenah 

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health

healing from cancer and other diseases 

with non-invasive, effective technology

suppressed by the medical cartel until recently

 <http://www.nenahsylver.com> www.nenahsylver.com

 

 

 

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Re: CSiodine and thyroid

[Dee]

I use Nascent iodine.Dee

Sent from my iPad

 On 28 Aug 2015, at 01:23, Eblaine erickblaine21-...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 The iodine I've used for many years is from Phil at IodineSource.com.  It's 
 atomic iodine based on Edgar Cayce's specifications in his readings. 
  
  
 Best regards,
 EB
 
 
 From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:42 PM
 Subject: Re: CSiodine and thyroid
 
 Thanks Shirley!
 
 https://www.jcrows.com/MaryJoFahey_IodineRemediesSecretsFromTheSea.pdf
 
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Re: CSiodine and thyroid

[Jane MacRoss]

Thanks Shirley!

https://www.jcrows.com/MaryJoFahey_IodineRemediesSecretsFromTheSea.pdf

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Re: CSiodine and thyroid

[Jane MacRoss]

The information about iodine that you will read in this 
book contradicts the information that is contained in 
medical text books, medical Web sites and most health 
books published for consumers.


About This Book...
The information in this book is based on research 
done for a series of presentations given by the 
Weston A. Price Foundation (www.westonaprice.
org) chapter lead ers in Madison, Wisconsin. Because 
the content represents contributions from more 
than one person, Dr. Chris Robin is a pen name 
(one of the researchers has a doctorate)






Thanks Shirley!

https://www.jcrows.com/MaryJoFahey_IodineRemediesSecretsFromTheSea.pdf

Jane




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Re: CSiodine and thyroid

[Kenneth Taylor]

Thanks Jane,


As always, I value your opinions, messages, talk, friendship.

(I'm still taking that jigsaw and iodine supplements)

Kenneth
Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise

From:Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
Date:Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 19:47
Subject:Re: CSiodine and thyroid

The information about iodine that you will read in this 
book contradicts the information that is contained in 
medical text books, medical Web sites and most health 
books published for consumers.

About This Book...
The information in this book is based on research 
done for a series of presentations given by the 
Weston A. Price Foundation (www.westonaprice.
org) chapter lead ers in Madison, Wisconsin. Because 
the content represents contributions from more 
than one person, Dr. Chris Robin is a pen name 
(one of the researchers has a doctorate)




 Thanks Shirley!
 
 https://www.jcrows.com/MaryJoFahey_IodineRemediesSecretsFromTheSea.pdf
 
 Jane
 


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Re: CSiodine and thyroid

[Eblaine]

The iodine I've used for many years is from Phil at IodineSource.com.  It's 
atomic iodine based on Edgar Cayce's specifications in his readings.    Best 
regards,
EB

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 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:42 PM
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Thanks Shirley!

https://www.jcrows.com/MaryJoFahey_IodineRemediesSecretsFromTheSea.pdf

Jane


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Re: CSiodine and thyroid

[Patricia]

found it.  Thank you.

On 8/16/2015 10:05 AM, Shirley Reed wrote:

A short pdf is free and entitled Iodine Remedies:  Secrets From the Sea.  
Good info and marvelous glossary!


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CSiodine and thyroid

[Shirley Reed]

A short pdf is free and entitled Iodine Remedies:  Secrets From the Sea.  
Good info and marvelous glossary!


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Re: CSDesicated thyroid/Cyndi

[123 456]

there was a  doctor  interviewed on  coasttocoastam.com some time ago
who was talking about this very thing. If you send them an email  im
sure they will  find you  a  reference for him.  He  recommended the
diessicated thyroid  too but he was quite specific about the dose
etc.
Best wishes.
T

On 4/28/14, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Cyndi,

 What were your symptoms before purchasing the desiccated thyroid from
 Thailand and how did you know what dose to use?  Do you have a link where to
 purchase it?   You can email me privately at:
 wanda85...@yahoo.com if you like.

 My have had CFS for over 25 years.  My body tempt runs anywhere from in the
 96s (if it's really cold) to 97.5, but no higher.  My blood work always says
 my thyroid is 'normal', but still I wonder.  I have 3 sisters all on thyroid
 medication but their blood works shows they need it.  I've always wanted to
 have the opportunity to get my hands on something to threat my thyroid.
 I've tried iodine, but it didn't seem to do anything.  I've also tried
 glandular thyroid, which didn't seem to do anything either.   Maybe I don't
 have thyroid issues; I just don't know.

 TIA,

 Gail


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CSDesicated thyroid/Cyndi

[Gail Naranjo]

Cyndi,

What were your symptoms before purchasing the desiccated thyroid from Thailand 
and how did you know what dose to use?  Do you have a link where to purchase 
it?   You can email me privately at:
wanda85...@yahoo.com if you like.

My have had CFS for over 25 years.  My body tempt runs anywhere from in the 96s 
(if it's really cold) to 97.5, but no higher.  My blood work always says my 
thyroid is 'normal', but still I wonder.  I have 3 sisters all on thyroid 
medication but their blood works shows they need it.  I've always wanted to 
have the opportunity to get my hands on something to threat my thyroid.  I've 
tried iodine, but it didn't seem to do anything.  I've also tried  glandular 
thyroid, which didn't seem to do anything either.   Maybe I don't have thyroid 
issues; I just don't know.

TIA,

Gail

Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Where offshore Bob?  dee



From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:33:32 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:31:01 -0800

it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.

  
  
 
  From: PT Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44  AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
  
  
  
 But don't you need a prescription for it?
 PT
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

canada, india, mexico ... 


  _  

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


Where offshore Bob?  dee



  _  

From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:33:32 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:31:01 -0800

it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.  




 

  _  

From: PT Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44  AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

 
 

But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT
 
 







 

 
 

Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Bob ­ probably have to take out a mortgage for the postage from here!
dee



From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:47:20 -0800
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:44:46 -0800

canada, india, mexico ...

  
  
 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick  [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:10  AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
  
 Where offshore Bob?  dee
 
 
  
 
  From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date:  Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:33:32 -0800
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:  RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 Resent-From:  silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date:  Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:31:01 -0800
 
 it's an orphan  generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
 trials and patents  are underway for new use.
 yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
 so, to  be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must have
 a  prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx an
 off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness is
 spreading.
 many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over  two weeks.
 
  
 
  
  
 
  From: PT  Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44  AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:  Re: CSCS and  RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
  
  
 
 But don't you need a prescription for  it?
 PT
  
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
  
 

RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

the zapper is worth a try but don't waste a lot of time with it.
 
if you get onto a couple LDN yahoo groups and put hashimoto into the
search function of groups Files area and message archives you will quickly
see that LDN often oiver time reduces or eliminates the need for thyroid
meds while correcting lots of things often unanticipated or previously
unknown.

LDN for:
 
cancer
lupus
psoriasis
thyroid
RA
MS
dementia (helps my mom immensely, like turning back the clock a couple
years.
fibro
crohn's
IBS
UC
etc, etc, etc.
 
super safe, non-toxic, cheap, and available with a long and growing history
of saving  improving lives.
 
 

  _  

From: aslra...@gmail.com [mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cure Hashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching high and
low for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happened yet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I am severely
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
thyroid medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...
doctors are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on
frequent basis (due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid
symptoms?  
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
cost is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms at bay? 

I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs and
be healthy again. 

Kindly, 

RaVen  



On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:



I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is
autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed the
medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what autoimmune means
or if they just use it for a way to get people on medication, lab tests and
coming back for monitoring!
Just my experience.
PT



  _  

From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27 AM
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue  that's what LDN excels at.

 -Original Message-
 From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSCS and RA
 
 Hello
 
 Am new to this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
 remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
 minocin made me 
 sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad bacteria that I 
 think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has success using 
 colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
 
 Thanks
 Monique


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Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[PT Ferrance]

But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT





From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 12:10:42 PM
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


the zapper is worth a try but don't waste a lot of time  with it.
 
if you get onto a couple LDN yahoo groups and put  hashimoto into the search 
function of groups Files area and message archives you will quickly see that 
LDN often oiver time reduces or eliminates the  need for thyroid meds while 
correcting lots of things often unanticipated or  previously unknown.

LDN for:
 
cancer
lupus
psoriasis
thyroid
RA
MS
dementia (helps my mom immensely, like turning back the  clock a couple years.
fibro
crohn's
IBS
UC
etc, etc, etc.
 
super safe, non-toxic, cheap, and available with a long and  growing history of 
saving  improving lives.
 
 


 From: aslra...@gmail.com[mailto:aslra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:44AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS andRA


Hi PT, 
Thanks for sharing your experience in using the zppaer to cureHashimoto's. 
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease myself and have been searching highand 
low for a cure
for it to no avail- I want to be drug-free but it hasn't happenedyet. 
I'm trying to understand how the zapper works exactly because I amseverely 
disabled (coma-like naps for 8 to 9 hours a day) when I get off of my
thyroid 
medicine. How did you tolerate the reduction of medicine dosages...doctors 
are not that supportive to get constant TSH blood lab test on frequent
basis 
(due to insurance). How did you avoid they hyperthyroid symptoms? 
What zapper did you use, how many times did you use it per day, and what
cost 
is it. Does health insurance cover this device?  
Do you still have to use the zapper to keep the Hashi symptoms atbay? 


I would really love to learn more as I'd so want to get off of the drugs
and 
be healthy again. 


Kindly, 


RaVen  




On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:27 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:


I was told I had thyroid nodules indicative of Hashimoto's which is  
autoimmune also.  I used the zapper for 3 weeks and no longer needed  the 
medication.  I wonder if the doctors really understand what  autoimmune 
means or if they just use it for a way to get people on  medication, lab 
tests and coming back for monitoring!
Just my  experience.
PT





 From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 1:18:27  AM
Subject: RE: CSCS  and RA

try CS + LDN together.

both provide broad immune  support; CS kills directly also. 
RA is (usually?) an autoimmune issue   that's what LDN excels at.

 -Original  Message-
 From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:18 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSCS and RA
 
 Hello
 
 Am new to  this group.  I have rheumatoid arthritis and put it into 
  remission using minocin. But then after a few years the 
 minocin  made me 
 sick. So am looking at safer ways to kill off the bad  bacteria that I 
 think are causing my symptoms. Has anyone here has  success using 
 colloidal silver for RA? if so at what dose?
 
 Thanks
 Monique


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RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced
trials and patents are underway for new use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must
have a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx
an off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness
is spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks.  


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT


 

Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[PT Ferrance]

How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT





From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:31:15 PM
Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

 
it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be  changing as advanced 
trials and patents are underway for new  use.
yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical  industry you must have 
a 
prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside  their boxes and Rx an 
off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although  LDN awareness is 
spreading.
many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts  over two weeks.  



 From: PT Ferrance[mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS andRA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


But don't you need a prescription for it?
PT

 

Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[Jane MacRoss]

SLowly?
  - Original Message - 
  From: PT Ferrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:46 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


  How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
  Thanks.
  PT

Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[Lena Guyot]

I sent this earlier but it mustn't have gone through.
You can get naltrexone (called Naltima) from the offshore source, 
alldaychemist.com without a prescription. Then, by putting one tablet in a 
bottle of 50 ml of distilled water and shaking, you have just made 
low-dose-naltrexone.(actually better than dealing with a compounding pharmacy 
where sometimes other fillers are added) Most people start with just a drop of 
this LDN (one ml), and slowly work up to perhaps 4. 
alldaychemist.com is reputable: many of us have used them in several groups. 
The prices are low, shipping costs a bit high and delivery is at least 2 weeks. 
They don't take credit cards; just money orders now.Their products are all 
excellent quality. 
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
 Thanks.
 PT
 
 From: bob Larson bobli...@att.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sun, January 20, 2013 4:31:15 PM
 Subject: RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
 it's an orphan generic at this time, but that may be changing as advanced 
 trials and patents are underway for new use.
 yes, it's Rx, but dirt cheap generic.
 so, to be legal and safe with dealing with the medical industry you must have 
 a prescription.  doctors willing to go a tad outside their boxes and Rx an 
 off-label use can be hard to find in many areas, although LDN awareness is 
 spreading.
 many just buy it offshore in 50mg tabs.  one tab lasts over two weeks. 
 
 From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:44 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID
 
 But don't you need a prescription for it?
 PT
  

RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

...they're the cheapest and have been fine for me.
flat $25 shipping for any size order to the USA so to be the best deal i
spend at least $125 per order.  they have other stuff of interest of course.
doing like that my LDN costs less than $6/month


  _  

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


I sent this earlier but it mustn't have gone through. 
You can get naltrexone (called Naltima) from the offshore source,
alldaychemist.com http://alldaychemist.com/  without a prescription. Then,
by putting one tablet in a bottle of 50 ml of distilled water and shaking,
you have just made low-dose-naltrexone.(actually better than dealing with a
compounding pharmacy where sometimes other fillers are added) Most people
start with just a drop of this LDN (one ml), and slowly work up to perhaps
4.  
alldaychemist.com http://alldaychemist.com/  is reputable: many of us have
used them in several groups. The prices are low, shipping costs a bit high
and delivery is at least 2 weeks. They don't take credit cards; just money
orders now.Their products are all excellent quality. 
Be well,
Léna
On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:



How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT

RE: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID

[bob Larson]

it comes in 50mg tabs only.  Rx compounders make smaller doses from bulk
powder, or some might grind up tabs and add filler.
 
the usual way is to dissolve one tab in 50ml Distilled (or RO) water.  then
1 ml of liquid = 1 mg naltrexone.
keeps in the frig for over a month, or room temp for up to a month.
mix it in a dark bottle with a dropper in the cap... use the dropper to put
it in a baby med spoon' which has lines marked in ml.
mix into any drink or have it straight down... slightly bitter, not very bad
taste at all and doesn't linger long 


  _  

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and RA: LOW DOSE NALTREXONE VS THYROID


How do you take it if one tab lasts over 2 weeks?
Thanks.
PT


 

Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Back again!
Thyroid biopsy was benign, so I`m OK. Whew! It didn`t even really hurt;
having my blood pressure checked hurts a lot worse than the biosy did...
Thanks again for all the input!
Love this bunch!!
Marshalee

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi, Folks,
 I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a
 biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience
 or info for me?
 I`m rather worried...
 Thanks,
 Marshalee

Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Tony Moody]

yee yay yee


On 6 Feb 2010 at 10:10, Marshalee Hallett wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

 Hi, Back again!
 Thyroid biopsy was benign, so I`m OK. Whew! It didn`t even really hurt;
 having my blood pressure checked hurts a lot worse than the biosy did...
 Thanks again for all the input! Love this bunch!! Marshalee
 
 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Marshalee Hallett
 utahpug...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi, Folks,
  I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a
  biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any
  experience or info for me? I`m rather worried... Thanks, Marshalee
 
 



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Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I'm so glad Marshalee.  dee

On 6 Feb 2010, at 17:10, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

 Hi, Back again! 
 Thyroid biopsy was benign, so I`m OK. Whew! It didn`t even really hurt; 
 having my blood pressure checked hurts a lot worse than the biosy did...
 Thanks again for all the input!
 Love this bunch!!
 Marshalee
 
 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi, Folks, 
 I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a 
 biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience 
 or info for me?
 I`m rather worried...
 Thanks,
 Marshalee
 

Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[MaryAnn Helland]

Oh -- that's great news Marshalee -- thanks for letting us know.
MA





From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 11:10:19 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

Hi, Back again!  
Thyroid biopsy was benign, so I`m OK. Whew! It didn`t even really hurt; having 
my blood pressure checked hurts a lot worse than the biosy did...
Thanks again for all the input! 
Love this bunch!!
Marshalee


On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, Folks,  
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a 
biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience 
or info for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee

CSOT, Thyroid help

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Folks,
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a
biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience
or info for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee

Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Heidrun Beer]

On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 04:07:36 -0700, Marshalee Hallett wrote in
f23026801002010307m210882eerbfa4d63aa67e3...@mail.gmail.com:

Hi, Folks,
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a
biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience
or info for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee


Yes - I am against biopsies - there is reason to believe
that they get cancer cells into the blood stream (if the
nodules are cancerous), which then grow into new tumours
(metastases). If on the other hand the nodules are benign,
the biopsy is unnecessary.

I in your situation would either ask them to take the
whole nodules out, or not touch them at all.

See www.cancertutor.com for an extensive study of
cancer theory and cancer diet.

I keep a lump in my breast under control for 12 years 
now, with the approach of Dr. Hulda Clark. It has a 
sound theory and for me it is working. All her work
is in her books - no need to pay a fortune for treatment.

I usually work closely together with doctors, both
school medicine and alternative, but in case of this
lump I keep it away from them. There is much discussion
that the school medicine approach harms more than it helps.



Best,

Heidrun Beer
www.freezoneauditors.org/auditor/profile/105/

Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
www.sgmt.at
www.RecastReality.org



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Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Annie B Smythe]

Th site at this link is a mine of information 
about all things Thyroid:


http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

I also suggest the Iodine group for info on how to 
treat nodules naturally, they're also a mine of 
information, support and encouragement:


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine

Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Hi, Folks, 
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a 
biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any 
experience or info for me?

I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee



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Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Richard Goodwin]

I had one of those too.  They did a needle biopsy and found it was fine.

Dick





From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 6:07:36 AM
Subject: CSOT, Thyroid help

Hi, Folks, 
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a biopsy 
on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience or info 
for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee

RE: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Nenah Sylver]

Marshalee,

One of my colleagues suggested Prolamine Iodine from Standard Process to one
of her clients with thyroid nodules. The client's nodules disappeared three
weeks after she started taking the iodine. Dose was 10 tablets per day.

 

Nenah 

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

 The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com 

  _  

From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT, Thyroid help

 

Hi, Folks, 

I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a
biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience
or info for me?

I`m rather worried...

Thanks,

Marshalee

RE: CSOT, Thyroid help

[Dianne France]

MA

 

My daughter has had problems with nodules for many years.  About twelve years 
back they gave her irradiated iodine to kill the thyroid.

She has continued to have multiple nodules and they have never tested positive 
always benign.  

 

Dianne


 


Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 04:57:20 -0800
From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT, Thyroid help
To: silver-list@eskimo.com





I had one of those too.  They did a needle biopsy and found it was fin

Dick





From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 6:07:36 AM
Subject: CSOT, Thyroid help

Hi, Folks, 
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a biopsy 
on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience or info 
for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee 
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Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Dianne -- it was Marshalee's inquiry, not mine.  I'm sure she'll read your 
post.  Thx.
MA





From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 9:13:27 AM
Subject: RE: CSOT, Thyroid help

MA
 
My daughter has had problems with nodules for many years.  About twelve years 
back they gave her irradiated iodine to kill the thyroid.
She has continued to have multiple nodules and they have never tested positive 
always benign.  
 
Dianne

 

Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 04:57:20 -0800
From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT, Thyroid help
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


I had one of those too.  They did a needle biopsy and found it was fin

Dick





From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 6:07:36 AM
Subject: CSOT, Thyroid help

Hi, Folks,  
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a biopsy 
on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience or info 
for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee

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Re: CSOT, Thyroid help

[sms]

Marshalee - 
What kind of a biopsy are you talking about?  Is it a fine needle biopsy?
And how large or small are the nodules?  

If it is fine needle biopsy. . . have you considered getting an ultra-sound
and blood test instead?  Also, join the Iodine list and ask Stephanie the
owner/mod for her advise.  It helps greatly to surround oneself with a
knowledgeable support team both the allopathic and alternative fields of
health.  The more the better, and then you can make up your own mind as to
alternatives you want to choose for yourself.  If you can shrink them which
is very possible, all the better.  I was able to do this with a nodule in my
left lobe with Iodine, Selenium, D3, Vit C, and Nature-Throid. 
Unfortunately, I didn't know about any of this for my right lobe. If they
are growing, consider seriously, that you might require immediate medical
attention.  Look up Dr. David Brownstein and call his office.
Sasha 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Marshalee Hallett
Date: 02/01/10 03:07:59
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT, Thyroid help
 
Hi, Folks, 
I recently found out I have 3 nodules on my thyroid, so I have to have a
biopsy on Tuesday. I`m wondering if any of you wise ones have any experience
or info for me?
I`m rather worried...
Thanks,
Marshalee
 

CSsaliva thyroid test?

[jessie70]

Craig where do you get OTC saliva testing for thyroid? I've only heard of
blood or urine. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: Craig Chamberlin [mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:07 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSOT Mental Clarity


  Hi Jeff,

  You may also want to get on the iodine list at yahoogroups.com...much of
what you are describing could be attributed to hypothyroid, iodine
deficiency, etc.  It is a bit overwhelming, but filled with information
about how to get OTC testing (saliva) and what taking Iodoral (Lugol's in
the form of a tablet)

  It has worked for me, as has the alkalizing water from an ionizing water
filter, which Marshall has detailed in a previous message.

  Also may want to check the side effects of Crestor:)

  Good luck,

  Craig

  Jeff Maahs wrote:
Thank you all for the information. I'm starting to go through it now.

More information: What I mean is ability to focus. Usually I'll have
trouble concentrating on something I'm reading, like my screen at work while
programming. Other times it might be a book or long email.

I'm 48. Stopped smoking 5 years ago and gained weight. I've told the
doctor maybe it's the crestor and he says its not enough blood to the brain
cause I'm fat. (Yeah he tells it like it is so I stay with him.)

I've been taking Ginko (~120 mg/day) and Omega 3 along with some other
supplements.


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Re: CSsaliva thyroid test?

[Craig Chamberlin]

Jess,

Fast fingers...slow brain:) These are a combination of saliva and
blood spot panels:) They go to ZRT Laboratories...but they are still
OTC:) Sorry for the mislead.

Craig

jessie70 wrote:

  
  
  Craig where do you get OTC saliva testing for thyroid?
I've only heard of blood or urine. Jess
  
-Original Message-
From: Craig Chamberlin
[mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT Mental Clarity


Hi Jeff,

You may also want to get on the iodine list at yahoogroups.com...much
of what you are describing "could" be attributed to hypothyroid, iodine
deficiency, etc. It is a bit overwhelming, but filled with information
about how to get OTC testing (saliva) and what taking Iodoral (Lugol's
in the form of a tablet)

It has worked for me, as has the alkalizing water from an ionizing
water filter, which Marshall has detailed in a previous message.

Also may want to check the side effects of Crestor:)

Good luck,

Craig

Jeff Maahs wrote:

  
  
  Thank you all for the information. I'm starting to go
through it now.
  
More information: What I mean is ability to focus. Usually I'll have
trouble concentrating on something I'm reading, like my screen at work
while programming. Other times it might be a book or long email.
  
I'm 48. Stopped smoking 5 years ago and gained weight. I've told the
doctor maybe it's the crestor and he says its not enough blood to the
brain cause I'm fat. (Yeah he tells it like it is so I stay with him.)
  
I've been taking Ginko (~120 mg/day) and Omega 3 along with some other
supplements. 
  
  


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Re: CSsaliva thyroid test? temp test

[Deborah Gerard]

Don't forget the temperature test under your arm first thing in the morning for 
three days straight.
debbie





From: Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 9:29:21 PM
Subject: Re: CSsaliva thyroid test?

Jess,

Fast fingers...slow brain:)  These are a combination of saliva and blood spot 
panels:)  They go to ZRT Laboratories...but they are still OTC:)  Sorry for the 
mislead.

Craig

jessie70 wrote: 
Craig where do you get OTC saliva testing for thyroid? I've only heard of blood 
or urine. Jess
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT Mental Clarity

Hi Jeff,

You may also want to get on the iodine list at yahoogroups.com...much of what 
you are describing could be attributed to hypothyroid, iodine deficiency, 
etc.  It is a bit overwhelming, but filled with information about how to get 
OTC testing (saliva) and what taking Iodoral (Lugol's in the form of a tablet)

It has worked for me, as has the alkalizing water from an ionizing water 
filter, which Marshall has detailed in a previous message.

Also may want to check the side effects of Crestor:)

Good luck,

Craig

Jeff Maahs wrote: 
Thank you all for the information. I'm starting to go through it now.

More information: What I mean is ability to focus. Usually I'll have trouble 
concentrating on something I'm reading, like my screen at work while 
programming. Other times it might be a book or long email.

I'm 48. Stopped smoking 5 years ago and gained weight. I've told the doctor 
maybe it's the crestor and he says its not enough blood to the brain cause 
I'm fat. (Yeah he tells it like it is so I stay with him.)

I've been taking Ginko (~120 mg/day) and Omega 3 along with some other 
supplements. 

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Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I Googled it and it says it is.  dee

On 2 Nov 2009, at 22:56, Lisa wrote:


At the risk of sounding ignorant, is SSKI – potassium iodide?

Lisa

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

Hi Lisa, I just thought I'd mention again that Mercola recommends  
iodine supplementation for thyroid but is definitely against using  
Lugols.  He actually stated that it could make thyroid problems  
worse.  He says SSKI is the one to use.  dee


On 2 Nov 2009, at 15:07, Lisa wrote:

CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Lisa]

Hi All,

 

I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I have
antibodies in my blood that's attacking my thyroid. He stated: autoimmune
thyroid disease. At this point in time we're not sure whether I have Graves
disease or Hashimoto's because my numbers (T3, T4 etc.) have been up and
down within the last several months (and several blood tests). We're waiting
for 6-7 weeks to go by to test again with my not taking any supplements
(including Lugol's and kelp which he believes may be the culprit as far as
going back and forth).

 

Needless to say, I'm concerned as the last thing I'll do is have my thyroid
removed - but he also mentioned that my body just might do it on its own
anyway. So, has anybody had any experience in this at all?

 

Currently I'm on an MMS1 protocol of 15 drops - 2x a day (I felt that my
body needed cleansing as I'm quite sure I've had rampant Candida). I also
have been taking some oregano oil and EIS for a sore throat which is just
about gone now. I do take EIS everyday ( an ounce or two just because).
Has anybody had any positive results with using MMS1 and fixing their
thyroid autoimmunity problem?!!??!?! Should I add MMS2??!?!?!

 

Please, I'd like very much if anybody can tell me if there's a way that I
can get my thyroid to function properly and get rid of these antibodies. The
Dr. said that IF it were to happen it would take months (and the tests are
extremely expensive and insurance will cover the 1st one but may raise
questions down the road) to see any difference. I'm a member of the Iodine
group and also the Stop the Thyroid Madness which really focuses on
hypothyroid (and at this point I'm hyperthyroid).

 

ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated as I'm quite concerned!

 

Thank you!

 

Lisa

 

Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Del]

Lisa:

I can't answer your question, but the people who can are on the Yahoo Iodine 
group at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

If you are not already a member of that group, you should join and ask your 
question there.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.com ; 
hormonesandhealth-natura...@yahoogroups.com ; herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com ; 
alternativeansw...@yahoogroups.com ; alternative-medicine-fo...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:07 AM
  Subject: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)


  Hi All,

   

  I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I have 
antibodies in my blood that's attacking my thyroid. He stated: autoimmune 
thyroid disease. At this point in time we're not sure whether I have Graves 
disease or Hashimoto's because my numbers (T3, T4 etc.) have been up and down 
within the last several months (and several blood tests). We're waiting for 6-7 
weeks to go by to test again with my not taking any supplements (including 
Lugol's and kelp which he believes may be the culprit as far as going back and 
forth).

   

  Needless to say, I'm concerned as the last thing I'll do is have my thyroid 
removed - but he also mentioned that my body just might do it on its own 
anyway. So, has anybody had any experience in this at all?

   

  Currently I'm on an MMS1 protocol of 15 drops - 2x a day (I felt that my body 
needed cleansing as I'm quite sure I've had rampant Candida). I also have been 
taking some oregano oil and EIS for a sore throat which is just about gone now. 
I do take EIS everyday ( an ounce or two just because). Has anybody had any 
positive results with using MMS1 and fixing their thyroid autoimmunity 
problem?!!??!?! Should I add MMS2??!?!?!

   

  Please, I'd like very much if anybody can tell me if there's a way that I can 
get my thyroid to function properly and get rid of these antibodies. The Dr. 
said that IF it were to happen it would take months (and the tests are 
extremely expensive and insurance will cover the 1st one but may raise 
questions down the road) to see any difference. I'm a member of the Iodine 
group and also the Stop the Thyroid Madness which really focuses on hypothyroid 
(and at this point I'm hyperthyroid).

   

  ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated as I'm quite concerned!

   

  Thank you!

   

  Lisa

   

Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)- musings

[Clayton Family]

If you are hyperthyroid, then your heart rate is probably elevated,  
and that may be bad if the rate is too high for too long (over 100).  
Iodine can cause hyperthyroid in some as the iodine can be stimulating  
to the thyroid. Good if one is hypothyroid.


MMS is not a nutrient- it is a potent chemical that seems to have it's  
uses, maybe it will help your candida, but it is NOT a vitamin or  
nutrient of any kind. I would be quite careful with it. Oreganol has  
been used for candida as well, and again, it is not without side  
effects if used too long.


I do not know if the endocrinologist's understanding is correct or  
not. There is a very normal fluctuation of numbers, you would have to  
look it up to see if yours are normal or not. Maybe you can correlate  
them with what you have been doing, esp if you keep a log.


Antibodies are produced in reaction to something- that is what keeps  
us from getting the same thing over and over again, like measles,  
chicken pox, etc. We normally have antibodies to many many things  
floating around in our system, at least that has been my  
understanding. Is it possible that the MMS is provoking an immune  
response in some way? Humble's writings may shed some light on this  
question. I assume you have read all of his stuff on MMS before taking  
it.


If you are getting rid of mold in your system (that is what candida  
is, basically) there are all kinds of reactions possible until it is  
gone and the herxing is over.


Of course, nutritional support in the form of lots of green veggies,  
and even juicing veggies won't hurt, and often helps nearly everything.


Kathryn

On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Lisa wrote:


Hi All,

I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I  
have antibodies in my blood that’s attacking my thyroid. He stated:  
autoimmune thyroid disease. At this point in time we’re not sure  
whether I have Graves disease or Hashimoto’s because my numbers (T3,  
T4 etc.) have been up and down within the last several months (and  
several blood tests). We’re waiting for 6-7 weeks to go by to test  
again with my not taking any supplements (including Lugol’s and kelp  
which he believes may be the culprit as far as going back and forth).


Needless to say, I’m concerned as the last thing I’ll do is have my  
thyroid removed – but he also mentioned that my body just might do  
it on its own anyway. So, has anybody had any experience in this at  
all?


Currently I’m on an MMS1 protocol of 15 drops – 2x a day (I felt  
that my body needed cleansing as I’m quite sure I’ve had rampant  
Candida). I also have been taking some oregano oil and EIS for a  
sore throat which is just about gone now. I do take EIS everyday  
( an ounce or two “just because”). Has anybody had any positive  
results with using MMS1 and “fixing” their thyroid autoimmunity  
problem?!!??!?! Should I add MMS2??!?!?!


Please, I’d like very much if anybody can tell me if there’s a way  
that I can get my thyroid to function properly and get rid of these  
antibodies. The Dr. said that IF it were to happen it would take  
months (and the tests are extremely expensive and insurance will  
cover the 1st one but may raise questions down the road) to see any  
difference. I’m a member of the Iodine group and also the Stop the  
Thyroid Madness which really focuses on hypothyroid (and at this  
point I’m hyperthyroid).


ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated as I’m quite concerned!

Thank you!

Lisa

Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Hi Lisa, I just thought I'd mention again that Mercola recommends  
iodine supplementation for thyroid but is definitely against using  
Lugols.  He actually stated that it could make thyroid problems  
worse.  He says SSKI is the one to use.  dee


On 2 Nov 2009, at 15:07, Lisa wrote:


Hi All,

I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I  
have antibodies in my blood that’s attacking my thyroid. He stated:  
autoimmune thyroid disease. At this point in time we’re not sure  
whether I have Graves disease or Hashimoto’s because my numbers (T3,  
T4 etc.) have been up and down within the last several months (and  
several blood tests). We’re waiting for 6-7 weeks to go by to test  
again with my not taking any supplements (including Lugol’s and kelp  
which he believes may be the culprit as far as going back and forth).

Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

IMO, autoimmune disease occurs when your body doesn't have enough qi to 
support itself, so it starts to break down.  This is why the antibodies are 
attacking itself.
You should try acupuncture.  My girlfriend has Hashomoto's Thyroiditis, and 
they put her on synthroid.  I gave her an herbal formula which is helping her a 
great deal.  
Roughly speaking, the thyroid in Chinese Medical terms is spleen qi, and 
somewhat also kidney yang.  It's something we can definitely work with, using 
acupuncture, and/or herbs.  QiGong too, which is free once you learn it.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Del 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)


  Lisa:

  I can't answer your question, but the people who can are on the Yahoo Iodine 
group at:
  http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

  If you are not already a member of that group, you should join and ask your 
question there.

  Del
- Original Message - 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.com ; 
hormonesandhealth-natura...@yahoogroups.com ; herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com ; 
alternativeansw...@yahoogroups.com ; alternative-medicine-fo...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)


Hi All,

 

I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I have 
antibodies in my blood that's attacking my thyroid. He stated: autoimmune 
thyroid disease. At this point in time we're not sure whether I have Graves 
disease or Hashimoto's because my numbers (T3, T4 etc.) have been up and down 
within the last several months (and several blood tests). We're waiting for 6-7 
weeks to go by to test again with my not taking any supplements (including 
Lugol's and kelp which he believes may be the culprit as far as going back and 
forth).

 

Needless to say, I'm concerned as the last thing I'll do is have my thyroid 
removed - but he also mentioned that my body just might do it on its own 
anyway. So, has anybody had any experience in this at all?

 

Currently I'm on an MMS1 protocol of 15 drops - 2x a day (I felt that my 
body needed cleansing as I'm quite sure I've had rampant Candida). I also have 
been taking some oregano oil and EIS for a sore throat which is just about gone 
now. I do take EIS everyday ( an ounce or two just because). Has anybody had 
any positive results with using MMS1 and fixing their thyroid autoimmunity 
problem?!!??!?! Should I add MMS2??!?!?!

 

Please, I'd like very much if anybody can tell me if there's a way that I 
can get my thyroid to function properly and get rid of these antibodies. The 
Dr. said that IF it were to happen it would take months (and the tests are 
extremely expensive and insurance will cover the 1st one but may raise 
questions down the road) to see any difference. I'm a member of the Iodine 
group and also the Stop the Thyroid Madness which really focuses on hypothyroid 
(and at this point I'm hyperthyroid).

 

ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated as I'm quite concerned!

 

Thank you!

 

Lisa

 

CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[sms]

 
 
Lisa, 
My suggestion for you is to join the Iodine Group. 
Thyroid function, illness, disease, along with remedies are the main topic
of the group. I think you might find lots of good information and people
with common interest regarding thyroid health. 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/ 
 
 
 
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From: Lisa
Date: 11/2/2009 7:08:05 AM
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alternative-medicine-fo...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)
 
Hi All,
 
I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I have
antibodies in my blood that’s attacking my thyroid. He stated: autoimmune
thyroid disease. At this point in time we’re not sure whether I have Graves
disease or Hashimoto’s because my numbers (T3, T4 etc.) have been up and
down within the last several months (and several blood tests). We’re waiting
for 6-7 weeks to go by to test again with my not taking any supplements
(including Lugol’s and kelp which he believes may be the culprit as far as
going back and forth).
 
Needless to say, I’m concerned as the last thing I’ll do is have my thyroid
removed – but he also mentioned that my body just might do it on its own
anyway. So, has anybody had any experience in this at all?
 
Currently I’m on an MMS1 protocol of 15 drops – 2x a day (I felt that my
body needed cleansing as I’m quite sure I’ve had rampant Candida). I also
have been taking some oregano oil and EIS for a sore throat which is just
about gone now. I do take EIS everyday ( an ounce or two “just because”).
Has anybody had any positive results with using MMS1 and “fixing” their
thyroid autoimmunity problem?!!??!?! Should I add MMS2??!?!?!
 
Please, I’d like very much if anybody can tell me if there’s a way that I
can get my thyroid to function properly and get rid of these antibodies. The
Dr. said that IF it were to happen it would take months (and the tests are
extremely expensive and insurance will cover the 1st one but may raise
questions down the road) to see any difference. I’m a member of the Iodine
group and also the Stop the Thyroid Madness which really focuses on
hypothyroid (and at this point I’m hyperthyroid).
 
ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated as I’m quite concerned!
 
Thank you!
 
Lisa
 
 


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RE: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

[Lisa]

At the risk of sounding ignorant, is SSKI - potassium iodide?

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)

 

Hi Lisa, I just thought I'd mention again that Mercola recommends iodine
supplementation for thyroid but is definitely against using Lugols.  He
actually stated that it could make thyroid problems worse.  He says SSKI is
the one to use.  dee

 

On 2 Nov 2009, at 15:07, Lisa wrote:





Hi All,

 

I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I have
antibodies in my blood that's attacking my thyroid. He stated: autoimmune
thyroid disease. At this point in time we're not sure whether I have Graves
disease or Hashimoto's because my numbers (T3, T4 etc.) have been up and
down within the last several months (and several blood tests). We're waiting
for 6-7 weeks to go by to test again with my not taking any supplements
(including Lugol's and kelp which he believes may be the culprit as far as
going back and forth).

 

 

CSCS and thyroid

[Lisa]

Hello All,

 

Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid function
with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? I've been
having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper). I've got an
appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I certainly
would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and possibly a
diagnosis. 

 

Suggestions, comments, thoughts etc. would be appreciated :-)

 

Lisa

RE: CSCS and thyroid

[Nenah Sylver]

[Lisa] Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid
function with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else?
I've been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper).
I've got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I
certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and
possibly a diagnosis.

 

== 

Lisa,

I'm one of the most do-it-yourself people around. However, I can tell you
from personal experience that thyroid disorders are among the few conditions
that one should NOT self-treat.

 

The situation you describe, where you're alternately hypo and now possibly
hyper, sounds like it might be an autoimmune condition affecting your
thyroid. In autoimmune conditions, the body attacks various tissues. In
Hashimoto's thyroiditis, an autoimmune condition affecting the thyroid,
there are two sets of antibodies that the body has produced.

 

Metagenics makes two nutritional products, one for each set of antibody
markers, to help stabilize and overcome the autoimmune component of thyroid
disorders. It's reasonable to assume that the presence of mycoplasma and
other bacteria without cell walls (or other genetically engineered
pathogens) inside the tissues have caused the body to attack itself.
However, whether CS would help can only be seen with experimentation, as the
CS must touch pathogens in order to work. I'm not sure CS could reach inside
the cell wall to a transformed microbe; does anyone know?

 

Supplementation with the proper thyroid hormone is paramount. An article I
wrote an article on Hypothyroidism Type 2 was published in the December 2008
issue of Townsend Letter. While it does not address autoimmune problems of
the thyroid per se, it will give you enough information so you can see how
complex the situation is. You can read the article here:

http://www.nenahsylver.com/holistic_health_hypothyroidism.html 

 

There are other articles you can link to as well about the thyroid gland.

 

Before I see an endocrinologist, I would ask what success s/he has had with
natural therapies, and if s/he has used any nutritional supplements in
combination with thyroid hormone-and also what types of thyroid hormone are
being used.

 

Good luck. Let us know how you fare.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

 The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com 

Re: CSCS and thyroid

[Garnet]

Low Dose Naltrexone has been known to decrease the need for
Thyroid supplement in hypothyroidism. It is also said to be a
general hormone balancer. But there is not a lot of clearly
defined information. You just have to get on some of the lists
and talk to people who are using it. There are a couple of
thyroid lists where people are using it:

Thyroid Forum
LDN Discussion
http://www.ahsta.com

Thyroid List
Many on this list take LDN
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones 

Thyroid-Adrenals List
Help distinguishing between Thyroid and Adrenal Issues ~ 
many on the list take LDN



Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Lisa wrote:

Hello All,

 

Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid function 
with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? I’ve 
been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo…now possibly hyper). 
I’ve got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: 
however, I certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for 
tests/results and possibly a diagnosis.


 


Suggestions, comments, thoughts etc. would be appreciated J

 


Lisa




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RE: CSCS and thyroid

[Lisa]

I'm on the Yahoo LDN group (not much traffic there) and my LDN is on its
way...ordered about 2 weeks ago. Thanks for the other info...will look at
those later today. I do belong to a hypothyroidism group and also
HormonesandHealth-Naturally. I guess what I need first is a diagnosis so I
know what I'm dealing with.

Garnet you're a plethora of information -- glad to know you virtually :o)

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and thyroid

Low Dose Naltrexone has been known to decrease the need for
Thyroid supplement in hypothyroidism. It is also said to be a
general hormone balancer. But there is not a lot of clearly
defined information. You just have to get on some of the lists
and talk to people who are using it. There are a couple of
thyroid lists where people are using it:

Thyroid Forum
LDN Discussion
http://www.ahsta.com

Thyroid List
Many on this list take LDN
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones 

Thyroid-Adrenals List
Help distinguishing between Thyroid and Adrenal Issues ~ 
many on the list take LDN


Garnet

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information

Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Lisa wrote:
 Hello All,
 
  
 
 Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid function 
 with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? I've 
 been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper). 
 I've got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: 
 however, I certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for 
 tests/results and possibly a diagnosis.
 
  
 
 Suggestions, comments, thoughts etc. would be appreciated J
 
  
 
 Lisa
 


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CSCS and thyroid

[sms]

 
Lisa,
You might consider joining the Iodine List.
3257 members
The purpose and function of the list is to discuss Iodine and Thyroid Health

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/
S-Max
 CS and thyroid
-
 
[Lisa] Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid
function with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else?
I’ve been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo…now possibly hyper).
I’ve got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I
certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and
possibly a diagnosis.
 
 

Re: CSCS and thyroid

[Del]

On the other hand...
My wife was diagnosed as hypo-thyroid.
Her doctor wanted her to take synthroid.
She researched the side effects and decided no way!
Instead, she took a natural, organic hormone recommended by Jonathan Wright 
(Naturoid or something like that?).
This gave her some scary chest pains, so she discontinued it.
After more research, she took between 1 and 2 tablespoons of virgin coconut oil 
per day.
After a few months of this, her thyroid test was back to normal.
She still takes a teaspoon per day for maintenance.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nenah Sylver 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:20 AM
  Subject: RE: CSCS and thyroid


  [Lisa] Has anybody had any experience (or luck) in normalizing thyroid 
function with CS?  Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or anything else? 
I've been having issues (originally diagnosed at hypo.now possibly hyper). I've 
got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of the month: however, I 
certainly would like to self-treat and use the dr. for tests/results and 
possibly a diagnosis.

   

  == 

  Lisa,

  I'm one of the most do-it-yourself people around. However, I can tell you 
from personal experience that thyroid disorders are among the few conditions 
that one should NOT self-treat.

   

  The situation you describe, where you're alternately hypo and now possibly 
hyper, sounds like it might be an autoimmune condition affecting your thyroid. 
In autoimmune conditions, the body attacks various tissues. In Hashimoto's 
thyroiditis, an autoimmune condition affecting the thyroid, there are two sets 
of antibodies that the body has produced.

   

  Metagenics makes two nutritional products, one for each set of antibody 
markers, to help stabilize and overcome the autoimmune component of thyroid 
disorders. It's reasonable to assume that the presence of mycoplasma and other 
bacteria without cell walls (or other genetically engineered pathogens) inside 
the tissues have caused the body to attack itself. However, whether CS would 
help can only be seen with experimentation, as the CS must touch pathogens in 
order to work. I'm not sure CS could reach inside the cell wall to a 
transformed microbe; does anyone know?

   

  Supplementation with the proper thyroid hormone is paramount. An article I 
wrote an article on Hypothyroidism Type 2 was published in the December 2008 
issue of Townsend Letter. While it does not address autoimmune problems of the 
thyroid per se, it will give you enough information so you can see how complex 
the situation is. You can read the article here:

  http://www.nenahsylver.com/holistic_health_hypothyroidism.html 

   

  There are other articles you can link to as well about the thyroid gland.

   

  Before I see an endocrinologist, I would ask what success s/he has had with 
natural therapies, and if s/he has used any nutritional supplements in 
combination with thyroid hormone-and also what types of thyroid hormone are 
being used.

   

  Good luck. Let us know how you fare.

   

  Nenah

   

  Nenah Sylver, PhD

  author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

  now available in HARDCOVER

   The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

  www.nenahsylver.com 

Re: CSCS and thyroid

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Lisa,

I became hypo-thyroid in May 2007...Had saliva tests to confirm it,
began taking this glandular (with thyroxin removed):

http://tinyurl.com/yg6r5fz

Then I discovered high-dosage iodine (brand name is Iodoral) and worked
up to 75mg of Iodoral a day...and had to stop taking the glandular in a
period of three months.

You have been given the link to the iodine and thyroid list, but I will
repeat it here:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

Stephanie was running the list, it has very high traffic, but very good
information.

The high dosage iodine has significant benefits for the entire body,
including detoxing fluorines, bromines, chlorines.

Highly recommended...and I know that our fearless leader was doing this
as well.

Kind regards,

Craig

Lisa wrote:

  
  
  

  
  Hello All,
  
  Has anybody had any
experience (or luck) in normalizing
thyroid function with CS? Or even a combination of CS, MMS, DMSO or
anything
else? Ive been having issues (originally diagnosed at hyponow
possibly hyper). Ive got an appt with an endocrinologist at the end of
the month: however, I certainly would like to self-treat and use the
dr. for
tests/results and possibly a diagnosis. 
  
  Suggestions, comments,
thoughts etc. would be appreciated J
  
  Lisa
  






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CSarmour thyroid where to buy?

[Deborah Gerard]

We had a post with a link where armour thyroid could be purchased on-line. 
Could that person repost for me please to help someone?
thanks in advance Debbie


  

Re: CSarmour thyroid where to buy?

[Craig Chamberlin]

Debbie,

I haven't seen that post, but there is another glandular *like* Armour 
but not as concentrated, so you may have to use more:


Nutri + Meds thyroid desiccated glandular concentrate (either bovine or 
porcine).


http://www.nutri-meds.com/Thyroid_s/33.htm

Kind regards,

Craig

Deborah Gerard wrote:
We had a post with a link where armour thyroid could be purchased 
on-line. Could that person repost for me please to help someone?

thanks in advance Debbie





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Re: CSenlarged thyroid

[Paula Perry]

Could this be a goiter? 
Paula
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: CSenlarged thyroid


 
 Looking for information on enlarged thyroid.  No other real symptoms 
 other than a sore throat.  It is now quite swollen.  No seating or hot 
 flashes or being cold
 
 Thanks,
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Re: CSenlarged thyroid

[Rowena]

You could try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/
www.drrind.com 
http://www.cureresearch.com/g/graves_disease/symptoms.htm
Rowena
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Re: CSenlarged thyroid

[Dee]

It wouldn't be glandular fever would it?  Or Epstein Barr as someone pointed
out?  I had a swollen gland (my face swelled out to epic proportions) and I
swallowed CS every ten minutes or so, and in two hours all that was left was
a slight tenderness; by morning all was gone.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: G Murray
Date: 24/06/2008 03:25:33
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSenlarged thyroid
 
Looking for information on enlarged thyroid.  No other real symptoms
other than a sore throat.  It is now quite swollen.  No seating or hot
flashes or being cold
 
Thanks,
G
 
 

CSEnlarged Thyroid

[S-Max]

Hi G 
May I suggest that you go to an Endocrinologist, an excellent one at that.
He/she will order up a thyroid panel and an ultra-sound. Both will provide
indications as to what is happening with your thyroid. Could be you just
need thyroid meds.  Could be something else, so don't wait to get these
simple and painless tests.  Sore throat means take it seriously and 'do it
now.' 

If you wish to know more, you can e-mail me privately. Been there. 
S-Max 
 
From: G Murray 
Date: 6/23/2008 7:25:55 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CSenlarged thyroid 
 
Looking for information on enlarged thyroid. No other real symptoms 
other than a sore throat. It is now quite swollen. No seating or hot 
flashes or being cold 
 
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Re: CSenlarged thyroid - Lewis Ford download

[Rowena]

http://www.lewisford.info/files/The_Basic_Program_from_Feeling_Young_and_In_Love3.pdf
is a pdf document which has information about Thyroid and iodine as well as
a lot of other subjects.  124 pages set out in the paper saving mode I
favour.
I found it in a link from the website
http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/uses/ford_uses.htm

Quote and mention in despatches:  If you are ... ever unfortunate enough 
to develop shingles, the best
supplements for treating it are the same supplements that
best suppress and control the herpes 1 and 2 viruses. That
includes Lysine, dairy products, Iodide, Progesterone,
Thyroid Tissue, Thymus Tissue, Mild Silver Protein
solutions, Colloidal Silver, and/or St. John's Wort.

http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/uses/ryan_drum.htm had info on
Thyroid function, dysfunction and disease.  Links to page
http://www.ryandrum.com/thyroid1.html which says Unlike Hashimoto's
hypothyroiditis, Graves' disease seems very amenable to successful herbal
intervention and control. The three main herbs used are: Melissa officinalis
(lemon balm), Lycopus virginiana (bugleweed) and Leonuris
cardiaca(motherwort) in descending order of strength and apparent
thyrosuppressive efficacy.

http://www.ryandrum.com/thyroidpart1.htm says

11. There is an especially vicious class of endocrine disrupters that have
become ubiquitous in our human environment. These substances have been used
to improve our lives. They are: flame retardants, resorcinol-based glues,
and MBTE gasoline additive s used to boost octane after tetra-ethyl lead was
banned.
The flame retardants, Poly-bromated di-ethyl ethers, PBDE's, were mandated
for children's pajamas, bedding, stuffed toys, etc.; they are also in
motel/hotel bedding, curtains, carpeting (all wall-to-wall), and upholstered
furniture. They are present in all water, soil, and air. They are especially
concentrated in mammalian milk, in particular human mothers' milk. They are
thyrodisruptive and pass transdermally from clothing into infants and
children. It is the regular 8-12 hour constant contact with a child's
epidermis which allows the unavoidable slow accumulation of PBDE's.  ... 
Resorcinal, Dihydroxybenzene, has been used therapeutically as an alleged
starting molecule for catechols. Industrially, it is used in the production
of Rayon and Nylon, and the superb resorcinol/formaldehyde glues,
particularly in plywood, chipboard, and sawdust composites for fake wood
furniture.
As these products are abraided,scuffed, cut, or broken, tiny amounts or
resorcinol polymer dust particles are released into our living spaces and
are inhaled, where they rest on mucous membrane surfaces where nano amounts
are continually absorbed and may be thyrodisruptive. ... . The
effects of resorcinol on human thyroids is still being investigated.
I believe these resorcinol-sourced particles may be a significant factor in
the increasing thyroid epidemic, particularly in the countries where the
most resorcinol has been used.

Gasoline additives are being breathed by all of us. Many are
thyrodisruptive.

http://www.ryandrum.com/thyroidpart2.htm said:   There is increasing 
evidence that the unshielded thyroid gland is susceptible to longterm 
developmental damage and disease subsequent to one
exposure to diagnostic dental or chest X-Rays and perhaps CAT scans

And http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/uses/panam_uses.htm says
24. Vegan gas. reducing the gas from eating beans! Macrobioticists have know 
for
years that cooking beans with seaweed reduces bean flatus. If you're soaking
beans before cooking them, add 1 or 2 drops of Lugol's, and let them soak
for an hour or more. Pour offf that water before cooking, and add fresh
water. You'll be surprised at the reduction in resulting intestinal gas!
(Technical explanation: There's a naturally occurring enzyme inhibitor in
beans which interferes with starch digestion in the gut, producing gas.
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CSenlarged thyroid

[G Murray]

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other than a sore throat.  It is now quite swollen.  No seating or hot 
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RE: CSWas Temps, now: Activating the thyroid Reflex point.

[Faith Saint Francis]

Yes, the thyroids are linked to the skin. For a better functioning of the 
thyroids try to activate the thyroid-point, either on the hands, or the feet. 
It is located near the thumb or the big toe.
For info on this way of activating, please write to
reflexluzy...@hotmail.com
FaithStFrancis,
licensed Reflexology therapist


From: jitte...@gis.netto: silver-l...@eskimo.comsubject: Re: CSTempsDate: Fri, 
21 Mar 2008 11:27:50 -0400



Yes, I run a lower than normal body temperature and for me it means thyroid.  I 
don't know if I've ever run a 'normal' temp.  I do not know what it means when 
you say 'lately'.  One doesn't have a thyroid problem one minute and not the 
next.
 
I took Levoxyl for 20 years and I had lots of problems with it including 
insomnia, hand tremor and very very very dry skin.  I am now taking Armour 
thyroid and am 100% better.
 
The doctor to see would be an Endocrinologist.  I have a nice one.  I have 
heard a rumor that some doctors will not prescribe ArmourThyroid though lord 
knows why not.  If the doctor had refused to give me armour Thyroid I would 
have gone to a doctor who would prescribe it for me.
 
 
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: marmar...@bellsouth.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: CSTemps

OK -- here's a general question for ya -- lately I'm running a 
lower-than-normal body temperature.  95.8 or 95.9.  I'm usually a normal 98.6.  
Does a lower temperature mean anything in particular?  MA
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CSRe: Dessicated Thyroid

[faith gagne]

By dessicated thyroid do you mean Armour Thyroid?  I switched from Levoxyl to 
Armour Thyroid and I will be forever glad that I did.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Leo Regehr 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:31 AM
  Subject: Re: CSDrink Water On An Empty Stomach


  I take dessicated thyroid (by ERFA) 2 30-mg tablets once a day, sublingually. 
Really helps.
  Leo

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  ccdirectt wrote:

In the Water Cure book he says to drink 2 cups of
water 30 min before eating.That takes a lot of stress
off the liver.
--- Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

   From: Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDrink Water On An Empty Stomach

Bunkum! Since I had to quit drinking coffee, I
  drink
2 cups of water in the 
mornings instead - 18 ounce cups. It has not
  slowed
my arthritis or excess 
fatness. The rest of the diseases mentioned, I
  don't
have, so can't speak 
for them.
I agree it is a healthy practice, but to cure
all.
Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, California

aera...@gmail.com

Hi Gayla,
  I 100% agree.  There are so many protocols out there
that claim to cure this and that, but if true, we
would no longer have those illnesses still around.

My thoughts on the water is that it is a good thing
for constipation especially to drink first thing in
the morning.  Kind of like flushing out everything
before putting anything else in the colon, and it
really works.

When combined with salt, I have found the minerals
in
the salt along with the water does go a long way
with
pain issues.  Probably because some pain is more
from
dehydration so drinking a lot of water would help. 
Now will this cure arthritis?  Probably not, but if
one is dehydrated along with having arthritis, then
it
should help.

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Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[Paula Perry]

Hi Faith,
Was it you that said you had thyroiditis?  The itis part of the thyroiditis 
in medical terms means inflammation, or inflammation in the thyroid. I am not 
sure what would cause inflammation there.

For the low body temperature you could google Wilson's temperature syndrome. 
There is some kind of a protocol for that. 

I am feeling okay. I just am taking less of the Armour now. 

Hope you didn't get too much damage from the hurricane. Take care,
Paula


  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:56 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


  Hi Paula:

  Yes, I still have my thyroid.  Today someone told me that the body will 
attack and kill the thyroid which is why some people have to take thyroid meds. 
 I do not understand this,  but this is not the first time I have heard this.  
It seems odd to me. 

  I diagnosed my own thyroid problem in a way, because I read that if your 
normal body temperature is low ( mine is 96.6) this was indicative of a thyroid 
problem and  the usual blood test would not disclose it..  So I had my blood 
drawn and sent to a lab in California for a different test and the results said 
that I do have a thyroid problem  

  After that it was a problem getting on the right thyroid med.  I guess it has 
been a problem for 11 years.  But I know that I feel lousy after a few days 
without levoxyl.  And I am now wondering if I've had a thyroid problem all my 
life and did not know it.  

  The lower dose seems to be working for me right now, but I will 
investigateThytropin PMG and Prolamine Iodine.

  I really do not know whether my thyroid is sluggish or overactive.  All I 
know is that I feel lousy without the medication.  

  I get a lot of exercise working in and around my house, but I like to walk 
and I try to do it as often as time and weather permits.  I'll be getting a lot 
of exercise cleaning up my yard after the remnants of Hurricane Noel.  

  Last night around 8pm rhe high winds sent a neighbor's huge rotten pine tree 
crashing through the roof and ceiling of one of the rooms of my house..  I 
heard the crash and walked into a room filled rain and wind, falling insulation 
and insulation dust and a tree branch protruding from the ceiling.  Five 
minutes later the lights went out and stayed out the rest of the night.  Life 
is an adventure.

  Faith

- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


Hi Faith,

I was wondering if you still had your thyroid? I was on the synthetic for 
years and didn't feel good. For me, it was like there was something missing. I 
think I am one of the ones with Wilson's temperature syndrome. I feel a lot 
better on the Armour. It comes in different dosages, so the amount is measured 
in some way. I was probably getting too much because of taking the Thytrophin 
PMG also. There is a product called Prolamine Iodine. I don't know if that 
would help you or not. Is your thyroid just sluggish? 

I think that MD's always want to go for the synthetic. It seems they are 
taught that way or something. My doctor actually made a face when she said 
Armour like it was disgusting. But synthetic is not natural to the body. Your 
body is not synthetic and may not get all it needs from it. It might keep you 
going but not in an optimal way, in my opinion.

When I first got a tumor on my thyroid I was living in Germany. My husband 
was in the military. I was having extreme problems I won't even begin to get 
into. Anyway the wonderful military medical system said I could wait a year on 
getting treated until I got back to the states. And, that is exactly what 
happened. At my lowest point I was getting no sleep at all. I was up 24-7 for a 
long, long time. When I asked to get something to sleep the doctor gave me a 
sugar pill (he actually told me this afterwards). I guess he thought the 
insomnia was all in my head. I didn't know what to do so I started running a 
couple of miles a day. If I had it to do over again I would have went to a 
German doctor. I thought I would tell you that because if you increase your 
exercise that might help jump start the thyroid a little bit.
Paula

Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[faith gagne]

I think the doctor was making up his own word when he said thyroiditis.  I will 
check out Wilsons temperature syndrome.  Thanks.

Faith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:19 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


  Hi Faith,
  Was it you that said you had thyroiditis?  The itis part of the thyroiditis 
in medical terms means inflammation, or inflammation in the thyroid. I am not 
sure what would cause inflammation there.

  For the low body temperature you could google Wilson's temperature syndrome. 
There is some kind of a protocol for that. 

  I am feeling okay. I just am taking less of the Armour now. 

  Hope you didn't get too much damage from the hurricane. Take care,
  Paula


- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


Hi Paula:

Yes, I still have my thyroid.  Today someone told me that the body will 
attack and kill the thyroid which is why some people have to take thyroid meds. 
 I do not understand this,  but this is not the first time I have heard this.  
It seems odd to me. 

I diagnosed my own thyroid problem in a way, because I read that if your 
normal body temperature is low ( mine is 96.6) this was indicative of a thyroid 
problem and  the usual blood test would not disclose it..  So I had my blood 
drawn and sent to a lab in California for a different test and the results said 
that I do have a thyroid problem  

After that it was a problem getting on the right thyroid med.  I guess it 
has been a problem for 11 years.  But I know that I feel lousy after a few days 
without levoxyl.  And I am now wondering if I've had a thyroid problem all my 
life and did not know it.  

The lower dose seems to be working for me right now, but I will 
investigateThytropin PMG and Prolamine Iodine.

I really do not know whether my thyroid is sluggish or overactive.  All I 
know is that I feel lousy without the medication.  

I get a lot of exercise working in and around my house, but I like to walk 
and I try to do it as often as time and weather permits.  I'll be getting a lot 
of exercise cleaning up my yard after the remnants of Hurricane Noel.  

Last night around 8pm rhe high winds sent a neighbor's huge rotten pine 
tree crashing through the roof and ceiling of one of the rooms of my house..  I 
heard the crash and walked into a room filled rain and wind, falling insulation 
and insulation dust and a tree branch protruding from the ceiling.  Five 
minutes later the lights went out and stayed out the rest of the night.  Life 
is an adventure.

Faith

Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[Paula Perry]

Hi Faith,

I was wondering if you still had your thyroid? I was on the synthetic for years 
and didn't feel good. For me, it was like there was something missing. I think 
I am one of the ones with Wilson's temperature syndrome. I feel a lot better on 
the Armour. It comes in different dosages, so the amount is measured in some 
way. I was probably getting too much because of taking the Thytrophin PMG also. 
There is a product called Prolamine Iodine. I don't know if that would help you 
or not. Is your thyroid just sluggish? 

I think that MD's always want to go for the synthetic. It seems they are taught 
that way or something. My doctor actually made a face when she said Armour like 
it was disgusting. But synthetic is not natural to the body. Your body is not 
synthetic and may not get all it needs from it. It might keep you going but not 
in an optimal way, in my opinion.

When I first got a tumor on my thyroid I was living in Germany. My husband was 
in the military. I was having extreme problems I won't even begin to get into. 
Anyway the wonderful military medical system said I could wait a year on 
getting treated until I got back to the states. And, that is exactly what 
happened. At my lowest point I was getting no sleep at all. I was up 24-7 for a 
long, long time. When I asked to get something to sleep the doctor gave me a 
sugar pill (he actually told me this afterwards). I guess he thought the 
insomnia was all in my head. I didn't know what to do so I started running a 
couple of miles a day. If I had it to do over again I would have went to a 
German doctor. I thought I would tell you that because if you increase your 
exercise that might help jump start the thyroid a little bit.
Paula

  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:01 PM
  Subject: CSRe Armour for thyroid


  Hi Paula: 
  Years ago I was told I had Thyroiditis, whatever that is.  I tried Armour but 
it made me quite sick and with a bright red rash in both arm pits (go figure).  
A  couple of doctors told me that Armour is ground-up pig or beef thyroid 
containing many imputities, and there is no way of telling how much thyroid you 
are getting with each dose.   

  I was told that the synthetic thyroid replacement resembles the human body 
perfectly.  My problem is the attendant side effects that Ihave been living 
with since starting Levoxyl 11 years ago, and the side effects are 
intensifying.  

  Last week my doctor reduced my dosage from 0.025 mg to 0.0125 mg, or half of 
what I was taking.  If that doesn't work I don't kow where to go next.  Thanks.

  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: CSNuclear Waste Task Force - Maps Links - Sierra Club


Hi Faith,
I actually have 40% of a Thyroid they didn't take it all. I was put on 
Synthroid for years and years. Over the past month or so, I got switched to 
Armour which is natural. I also was taking several tablets of Thytrophin PMG. 
After having a blood test a few days ago my doctor now says my thyroid is 
actually hyper, so she reduced the dosage of the Armour. I got put on the 
Thytrophin PMG by a chiropractor that does Meridian testing. I feel better than 
I ever did with Synthroid. With the reduced dose of Armour, hopefully it will 
get to what is considered normal range.
Paula

Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[Paula Perry]

Thanks Smitty, I hadn't been to curezone for a long time.
Paula
- Original Message - 
From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


  From: Paula Perry
 
  I actually have 40% of a Thyroid they didn't take it all.
 I was put on Synthroid for years and years.
 Over the past month or so, I got switched to Armour
 which is natural.
 
 Paula:
 
 Here is some thyroid info you might take a look at =
 
 http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=344
 
 Smitty
 
 
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Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[faith gagne]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


  Hi Faith,

  I was wondering if you still had your thyroid? I was on the synthetic for 
years and didn't feel good. For me, it was like there was something missing. I 
think I am one of the ones with Wilson's temperature syndrome. I feel a lot 
better on the Armour. It comes in different dosages, so the amount is measured 
in some way. I was probably getting too much because of taking the Thytrophin 
PMG also. There is a product called Prolamine Iodine. I don't know if that 
would help you or not. Is your thyroid just sluggish? 

  I think that MD's always want to go for the synthetic. It seems they are 
taught that way or something. My doctor actually made a face when she said 
Armour like it was disgusting. But synthetic is not natural to the body. Your 
body is not synthetic and may not get all it needs from it. It might keep you 
going but not in an optimal way, in my opinion.

  When I first got a tumor on my thyroid I was living in Germany. My husband 
was in the military. I was having extreme problems I won't even begin to get 
into. Anyway the wonderful military medical system said I could wait a year on 
getting treated until I got back to the states. And, that is exactly what 
happened. At my lowest point I was getting no sleep at all. I was up 24-7 for a 
long, long time. When I asked to get something to sleep the doctor gave me a 
sugar pill (he actually told me this afterwards). I guess he thought the 
insomnia was all in my head. I didn't know what to do so I started running a 
couple of miles a day. If I had it to do over again I would have went to a 
German doctor. I thought I would tell you that because if you increase your 
exercise that might help jump start the thyroid a little bit.
  Paula

- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: CSRe Armour for thyroid


Hi Paula: 
Years ago I was told I had Thyroiditis, whatever that is.  I tried Armour 
but it made me quite sick and with a bright red rash in both arm pits (go 
figure).  A  couple of doctors told me that Armour is ground-up pig or beef 
thyroid containing many imputities, and there is no way of telling how much 
thyroid you are getting with each dose.   

I was told that the synthetic thyroid replacement resembles the human body 
perfectly.  My problem is the attendant side effects that Ihave been living 
with since starting Levoxyl 11 years ago, and the side effects are 
intensifying.  

Last week my doctor reduced my dosage from 0.025 mg to 0.0125 mg, or half 
of what I was taking.  If that doesn't work I don't kow where to go next.  
Thanks.

Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:10 AM
  Subject: Re: CSNuclear Waste Task Force - Maps Links - Sierra Club


  Hi Faith,
  I actually have 40% of a Thyroid they didn't take it all. I was put on 
Synthroid for years and years. Over the past month or so, I got switched to 
Armour which is natural. I also was taking several tablets of Thytrophin PMG. 
After having a blood test a few days ago my doctor now says my thyroid is 
actually hyper, so she reduced the dosage of the Armour. I got put on the 
Thytrophin PMG by a chiropractor that does Meridian testing. I feel better than 
I ever did with Synthroid. With the reduced dose of Armour, hopefully it will 
get to what is considered normal range.
  Paula

Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[faith gagne]

Hi Paula:

Yes, I still have my thyroid.  Today someone told me that the body will attack 
and kill the thyroid which is why some people have to take thyroid meds.  I do 
not understand this,  but this is not the first time I have heard this.  It 
seems odd to me. 

I diagnosed my own thyroid problem in a way, because I read that if your normal 
body temperature is low ( mine is 96.6) this was indicative of a thyroid 
problem and  the usual blood test would not disclose it..  So I had my blood 
drawn and sent to a lab in California for a different test and the results said 
that I do have a thyroid problem  

After that it was a problem getting on the right thyroid med.  I guess it has 
been a problem for 11 years.  But I know that I feel lousy after a few days 
without levoxyl.  And I am now wondering if I've had a thyroid problem all my 
life and did not know it.  

The lower dose seems to be working for me right now, but I will 
investigateThytropin PMG and Prolamine Iodine.

I really do not know whether my thyroid is sluggish or overactive.  All I know 
is that I feel lousy without the medication.  

I get a lot of exercise working in and around my house, but I like to walk and 
I try to do it as often as time and weather permits.  I'll be getting a lot of 
exercise cleaning up my yard after the remnants of Hurricane Noel.  

Last night around 8pm rhe high winds sent a neighbor's huge rotten pine tree 
crashing through the roof and ceiling of one of the rooms of my house..  I 
heard the crash and walked into a room filled rain and wind, falling insulation 
and insulation dust and a tree branch protruding from the ceiling.  Five 
minutes later the lights went out and stayed out the rest of the night.  Life 
is an adventure.

Faith

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid


  Hi Faith,

  I was wondering if you still had your thyroid? I was on the synthetic for 
years and didn't feel good. For me, it was like there was something missing. I 
think I am one of the ones with Wilson's temperature syndrome. I feel a lot 
better on the Armour. It comes in different dosages, so the amount is measured 
in some way. I was probably getting too much because of taking the Thytrophin 
PMG also. There is a product called Prolamine Iodine. I don't know if that 
would help you or not. Is your thyroid just sluggish? 

  I think that MD's always want to go for the synthetic. It seems they are 
taught that way or something. My doctor actually made a face when she said 
Armour like it was disgusting. But synthetic is not natural to the body. Your 
body is not synthetic and may not get all it needs from it. It might keep you 
going but not in an optimal way, in my opinion.

  When I first got a tumor on my thyroid I was living in Germany. My husband 
was in the military. I was having extreme problems I won't even begin to get 
into. Anyway the wonderful military medical system said I could wait a year on 
getting treated until I got back to the states. And, that is exactly what 
happened. At my lowest point I was getting no sleep at all. I was up 24-7 for a 
long, long time. When I asked to get something to sleep the doctor gave me a 
sugar pill (he actually told me this afterwards). I guess he thought the 
insomnia was all in my head. I didn't know what to do so I started running a 
couple of miles a day. If I had it to do over again I would have went to a 
German doctor. I thought I would tell you that because if you increase your 
exercise that might help jump start the thyroid a little bit.
  Paula

CSRe Armour for thyroid

[faith gagne]

Hi Paula: 
Years ago I was told I had Thyroiditis, whatever that is.  I tried Armour but 
it made me quite sick and with a bright red rash in both arm pits (go figure).  
A  couple of doctors told me that Armour is ground-up pig or beef thyroid 
containing many imputities, and there is no way of telling how much thyroid you 
are getting with each dose.   

I was told that the synthetic thyroid replacement resembles the human body 
perfectly.  My problem is the attendant side effects that Ihave been living 
with since starting Levoxyl 11 years ago, and the side effects are 
intensifying.  

Last week my doctor reduced my dosage from 0.025 mg to 0.0125 mg, or half of 
what I was taking.  If that doesn't work I don't kow where to go next.  Thanks.

Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:10 AM
  Subject: Re: CSNuclear Waste Task Force - Maps Links - Sierra Club


  Hi Faith,
  I actually have 40% of a Thyroid they didn't take it all. I was put on 
Synthroid for years and years. Over the past month or so, I got switched to 
Armour which is natural. I also was taking several tablets of Thytrophin PMG. 
After having a blood test a few days ago my doctor now says my thyroid is 
actually hyper, so she reduced the dosage of the Armour. I got put on the 
Thytrophin PMG by a chiropractor that does Meridian testing. I feel better than 
I ever did with Synthroid. With the reduced dose of Armour, hopefully it will 
get to what is considered normal range.
  Paula

Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[Smitty]

 From: Paula Perry

 I actually have 40% of a Thyroid they didn't take it all.
I was put on Synthroid for years and years.
Over the past month or so, I got switched to Armour
which is natural.

Paula:

Here is some thyroid info you might take a look at =

http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=344

Smitty


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Re: CSRe Armour for thyroid

[Tad Winiecki]

Some of the people on the Budwig Protocol report returning to normal 
thyroid function on the diet.


 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/

I have been changing the way we eat a lot and juicing vegetables, and 
my joint problems and especially my tendonitis is improving.  I don't 
have a thyroid problem so can't report on that.


Nancy

On Nov 3, 2007, at 11:01 AM, faith gagne wrote:
Last week my doctor reduced my dosage from 0.025 mg to 0.0125 mg, or 
half of what I was taking.  If that doesn't work I don't kow where to 
go next.  Thanks.

 
Faith G.
 
 



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CSOprah Raises Awareness on Thyroid Issue

[Paula Perry]

Has some interesting info for all of us with thyroid issues.
Paula

 http://www.newstarget.com/022155.html

CSOT Doris thyroid/iodine info

[claire shaw]

Doris ( anyone interested in this thread)
I saved posts on this thread to do research but they are now lost sigh. 
Did you or anyone else save these posts? 

After solving many of my health issues with the help of this list it seems
likely my remaining problems are related to hyperthryroidism. What other
sites besides the Karmacleanse site (which has a lot of good info) do you
recommend?  

Many thanks,
Claire


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Re: CSOT Doris thyroid/iodine info

[Clayton Family]

There were some posts in the beginning of April, if that is what you 
are talking about I can forward them to you.


The Mayo Clinic has a great website that has good info on 
Hyperthyroidism. A family member of mine has this problem, so we have 
been through it from the medical point of view.  Maybe you can google 
it.


Are there alternative treatments for it that work? It can be fatal, if 
it is severe, so it is worth being careful if it  really is 
hyperthyroidism.


kathryn

On Apr 23, 2007, at 8:26 AM, claire shaw wrote:


Doris ( anyone interested in this thread)
I saved posts on this thread to do research but they are now lost 
sigh.

Did you or anyone else save these posts?

After solving many of my health issues with the help of this list it 
seems
likely my remaining problems are related to hyperthryroidism. What 
other
sites besides the Karmacleanse site (which has a lot of good info) do 
you

recommend?

Many thanks,
Claire


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Albert Einstein, 1901

Re: CSOT Doris thyroid/iodine info

[claire shaw]

Hi Kathryn,
Yes these are the posts I wanted. Pls. forward them to me privately - Thank
you!

I have googled it but am looking for as much info as I can get in case I
missed something. Will check out the Mayo Clinic as soon as I can.
Claire
 
snippedThere were some posts in the beginning of April, if that is what
you 
are talking about I can forward them to you.
 The Mayo Clinic has a great website that has good info on 
Hyperthyroidism. A family member of mine has this problem, so we have 
been through it from the medical point of view. Maybe you can google 
it.
 


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CSlow body temp- other issues besides thyroid

[Clayton Family]

There is an interesting discussion on the page, that could be useful to 
some on the list.


http://www.biochemicals.com/productfiles/cleansebuild.htm


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RE: CSlow body temp- other issues besides thyroid

[ruth strackbein]

Thanks, I am one of those who may find the article useful. Have printed it 
out. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSlow body temp- other issues besides thyroid
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:11:51 -0500

There is an interesting discussion on the page, that could be useful to 
some on the list.


http://www.biochemicals.com/productfiles/cleansebuild.htm


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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[ruth strackbein]

Will try to find a way, Debbie.  We do clean up what is visible, but the 
invisible stuff is just beyond my finances and energy to attempt, Am 
exploring moving which has its problems in this area which is bound to be 
mold prone.  I sent a different post to another party today, on this topic, 
Thanks , Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:26:10 -0700 (PDT)

You get rid of that mold your body will feel alot better...debbie

ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com wrote:  Hi, Debbie, thanks for 
your idea of using a mold test. I will see if our

hardware store carries on. Or maybe the drugstore in the next town, when I
get there. Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: JES AM  PM 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:45:13 -0400

Rowena:
I know the attorney that won the case he is in Atlanta. I spoke to 
him

about 18 months ago. He told me how horrific it was... I never looked up
the
case law on it, but they were very much harmed health wise, their jobs, 
the

whole nine yards... I will tell you his name if you email me privately.
Jeannine


On 3/29/07, Deborah Gerard wrote:

They call it Sich House Syndrome when mold is a problem and it will make
you deathly ill...you can go to the hardware store and by a mold test 
that

all you do is set on your counter and it will tell you what you are
dealing
with ...it comes in a petre dish...debbie

*Rowena * wrote:

Ruth, I really don't like the thought of you having the same carpets 
that
have been down since before all the damp problems. Mold, dampness etc. 
are


like poison.

I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it. It 
was


told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced
flooding.
The insurance company didn't want to pay up. While the arguing was going
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband
became ill. On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert 
in

mold. Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house. They were
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all
from
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there. The son
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged. I may not 
have


full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a
transcript
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
Rowena




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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[Deborah Gerard]

You get rid of that mold your body will feel alot better...debbie

ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com wrote:  Hi, Debbie, thanks for 
your idea of using a mold test. I will see if our 
hardware store carries on. Or maybe the drugstore in the next town, when I 
get there. Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: JES AM  PM  
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:45:13 -0400

Rowena:
I know the attorney that won the case he is in Atlanta. I spoke to him
about 18 months ago. He told me how horrific it was... I never looked up 
the
case law on it, but they were very much harmed health wise, their jobs, the
whole nine yards... I will tell you his name if you email me privately.
Jeannine


On 3/29/07, Deborah Gerard wrote:

They call it Sich House Syndrome when mold is a problem and it will make
you deathly ill...you can go to the hardware store and by a mold test that
all you do is set on your counter and it will tell you what you are 
dealing
with ...it comes in a petre dish...debbie

*Rowena * wrote:

Ruth, I really don't like the thought of you having the same carpets that
have been down since before all the damp problems. Mold, dampness etc. are

like poison.

I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it. It was

told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced
flooding.
The insurance company didn't want to pay up. While the arguing was going
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband
became ill. On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert in
mold. Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house. They were
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all
from
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there. The son
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged. I may not have

full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a
transcript
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
Rowena




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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Debbie, thanks for your idea of using a mold test.  I will see if our 
hardware store carries on.  Or maybe the drugstore in the next town, when I 
get there.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: JES AM  PM  homestea...@gmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:45:13 -0400

Rowena:
I know the attorney that won the case he is in Atlanta.  I spoke to him
about 18 months ago. He told me how horrific it was... I never looked up 
the

case law on it, but they were very much harmed health wise, their jobs, the
whole nine yards... I will tell you his name if you email me privately.
Jeannine


On 3/29/07, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:


They call it Sich House Syndrome when mold is a problem and it will make
you deathly ill...you can go to the hardware store and by a mold test that
all you do is set on your counter and it will tell you what you are 
dealing

with ...it comes in a petre dish...debbie

*Rowena new...@aapt.net.au* wrote:

Ruth, I really don't like the thought of you having the same carpets that
have been down since before all the damp problems. Mold, dampness etc. are

like poison.

I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it. It was

told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced
flooding.
The insurance company didn't want to pay up. While the arguing was going
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband
became ill. On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert in
mold. Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house. They were
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all
from
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there. The son
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged. I may not have

full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a
transcript
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
Rowena




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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[Deborah Gerard]

They call it Sich House Syndrome when mold is a problem and it will make you 
deathly ill...you can go to the hardware store and by a mold test that all you 
do is set on your counter and it will tell you what you are dealing with ...it 
comes in a petre dish...debbie

Rowena new...@aapt.net.au wrote:  Ruth, I really don't like the thought of 
you having the same carpets that 
have been down since before all the damp problems. Mold, dampness etc. are 
like poison.

I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it. It was 
told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced flooding. 
The insurance company didn't want to pay up. While the arguing was going 
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband 
became ill. On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert in 
mold. Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house. They were 
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all from 
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there. The son 
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged. I may not have 
full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a transcript 
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
Rowena




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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[JES AM PM]

Rowena:
I know the attorney that won the case he is in Atlanta.  I spoke to him
about 18 months ago. He told me how horrific it was... I never looked up the
case law on it, but they were very much harmed health wise, their jobs, the
whole nine yards... I will tell you his name if you email me privately.
Jeannine


On 3/29/07, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:


They call it Sich House Syndrome when mold is a problem and it will make
you deathly ill...you can go to the hardware store and by a mold test that
all you do is set on your counter and it will tell you what you are dealing
with ...it comes in a petre dish...debbie

*Rowena new...@aapt.net.au* wrote:

Ruth, I really don't like the thought of you having the same carpets that
have been down since before all the damp problems. Mold, dampness etc. are

like poison.

I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it. It was

told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced
flooding.
The insurance company didn't want to pay up. While the arguing was going
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband
became ill. On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert in
mold. Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house. They were
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all
from
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there. The son
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged. I may not have

full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a
transcript
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
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Re: Re: CSDr. Huggins/thyroid

[marmar845]

 I don't know what the HFS is.

 Health Food Store.   Thanks for the information.  MA


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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[ruth strackbein]

Thanks for your replies, Sol and Clayton Family. We'll all be watching for 
mold information.  Ruth



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From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:48:50 -0600

I am extremely sensitive- I have a small reaction from taking it- due to 
the mold damage and extreme sensitivity.


So, I get a reaction when I take too much. I started with one dropperful of 
10 ppm, once a day, then increased it when I felt like it, every few days 
or week or so. Now I am up to maybe 2 1/2 teaspoons a day. When I was 
first looking this up, I found one MD who is using it for his asthma 
patients and others too, and he said to start small and go up from there 
(not to me, it was in an article).


But my reaction to that was nothing compared to the herks from taking the 
diflucan- that put me in bed for 3 weeks, even at the tiny dose I was 
taking, one pill 2 times a week. I had a major infection that was killing 
me.


Everyone told me there is no way out of it- when you are infected by mold, 
you have to bite the bullet and then deal with the reactions as best you 
can. Having a detox protocol is very important.


I am also interested to hear what others may have to say about silver and 
mold, since the mold has been such a major problem in my life.


Kathryn

On Mar 24, 2007, at 11:26 AM, sol wrote:


Ruth,
  I have taken between 0 and a quart a day of CS since I started using it 
at least 4 years ago. I have never once had a herx reaction. Some people 
may get a  herx from starting with too much, but I have never had one so I 
freely dose by symptoms or no symptoms. If I have had little or no CS for 
days and then eat something that gives me the gallops, I have no qualms 
about drinking 4 - 8 ounces right down. It stops the food borne 
bacteria/runs nearly immediately.

  I don't know if I am unusual in never getting a herx? Anybody know?
sol

ruth strackbein wrote:
I have been wondering the same thing.  I have a Silvergen now and am 
taking 1 tblsp a day.  That is up from a tsp a day to start with.  Didn't 
want to get a herx reaction.  Will have to look back in my files about 
EIS and mold.  Ruth





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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Rowena, Thanks very much for all the helpful information and websites 
about mold. I am wondering if the mold in my house is a dangerous kind since 
I am not sick in the usual ways described.  This is what puzzles my doctors 
so much that I am not in severe pain, although it approaches severe in my 
right abdomen when I waken during the night to go to the bathroom, but it 
does not usually keep me awake.  I go right back to sleep after the bathroom 
trip.  I think I will call the County Health Nurse about this and see what 
she has to offer re diagnosing the type of mold present in my house.  This 
whole area used to be a swamp I am told.  The railroad bought the land years 
ago and drained a good deal of it.  Actually just one house east of mine, 
the land was still a swamp until a couple of year ago.  Migrating water 
birds would stop there and we could enjoy the sound of frogs croaking in 
spring.  The whole area has now been drained with varying success.  A 
neighbor across the street from me had his basement flooded recently due to 
some malfunction of the main pump used by the town to keep the water levels 
low.  A nursing home has been built on a higher portion of that ground.  I 
am told that you used to be able to row a boat from the closest town to the 
west , to Gibbon where I live.  You have given me some good starting places 
for research.  thanks again. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS  Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:51:08 +0900

Further to that, Ruth, I did a bit of research in case I could find the
story.  There are things worth knowing out there.  Is it Wayne Fugitt who 
is

a mold expert on this forum?
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byorg/abbey/an/an23/an23-7/an23-702.html 
said

a book that everyone should have access to has just appeared in print:
Guidelines on Assessment and Remediation of Fungi in Indoor Environments,
available on the Internet at
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doh/html/epi/moldrpt1.html (2) Future 
revisions

to it will be posted there too. For more information, contact the New York
City Department of Health at 212/788-4290. An expert panel was convened in
1993, originally to develop policies for medical and environmental
evaluation and intervention in cases of Stachybotrys atra [chartarum]
contamination. This revised guideline covers all fungi.

3. Follow developments in research and make contacts. Go to a mold
conference now and then, or read in the professional literature on current
research, to be sure your information is up to date. This will also make
people more willing to talk to you; you can put yourself on a grapevine if
you have recent news to swap. (As far as I know, there are no extension or
college courses on coping with mold, except perhaps in the historical
preservation field.)

4. Study real situations. Even if there is no leak to be found, water can
enter a building through porous building materials, including concrete. It
may enter as water vapor and condense and collect in hidden places. There
are many esoteric ways for water to enter a house and feed mold. They are
hard to understand without some kind of hands-on experience or a good
teacher or a couple of really good books. So study is unavoidable.

Mold Websites  Listservs Related to Health
  a.. aspergillus...@mail-list.com (A listserv for people diagnosed with
Aspergillus infections. A minor source of usable information; mainly serves
as a support group.)
  b.. http://www.aspergillus.man.ac.uk/ (A technical website which offers 
an
impressive variety of information, including the full text of a large 
number

of medical papers. Registration is needed if you want to have access to all
sections.)
  c.. http://www.chem.umd.edu/organic/jarvis.html (Analysis of 4 toxins,
esp. tricothecenes, a kind of toxin produced by many species of mold)
  d.. http://isiaq.org/ (International Society for Indoor Air Quality. 
Good

on buildings and air handling, but not on mold itself, or on health.)
  e.. http://www.iuoe.org/cm/iaq_iaq_in_home.asp?Item=294   some horror
stories - getting insurance for mold problems is no joke.
  f..
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/00157/corroded_valves_mold.html
  g.. http://www.moldinspector.com/mold_advice.htm
  h.. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=52250
According to Portnoy, mold attacks in one of four ways.


First, you could be allergic to it. This occurs in 10% to 20% of cases. A
skin or blood test would pinpoint it as an allergic substance.


Second, substances called ergosterol and glucan in the walls of the mold
cell can cause hay fever-like symptoms. You don't have to be allergic --
anyone could react to these.


Third, molds release organic compounds such as benzene and acetone, which
would raise alarms in any workplace and are linked to nausea, dizziness, 
and

headaches. Again, you don't have

Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold/Just a thought

[Vwolf21]

Hi Ruth...
my message is further down in your postV.
 
In a message dated 3/26/2007 5:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi, Rowena, Thanks very much for all the helpful information and websites 
about mold. I am wondering if the mold in my house is a dangerous kind since 
I am not sick in the usual ways described.  This is what puzzles my doctors 
so much that I am not in severe pain, although it approaches severe in my 
right abdomen
Ruth  the first thing I think of when you say right abdomenis 
illeocall (sp) valve.
Where abouts in your right abdomen...say...from the belly button...lower 
..higher?

I used to go to a chiropractor who would sometimes clear this valve 
area..painful as the dickens but did help with bowel problems.

So I read up on it and it seems that the Illeocal Valve..often blocks up.
The chiropractor says  popcorn for instance will mess with it big time.

I also found that drinking pineapple juice is a great way to clear this valve.

I assume you have ruled out problems with the appendix?

If the pain is higher than the belly button...have you thought about gall 
problems?

p.s.  Organic Pineapple Juice...in a glass bottle.
I think its very bad for the system to drink any thing acidic from cans.  V.
oh, also..what is a floppy bowel?


when I waken during the night to go to the bathroom, but it 
does not usually keep me awake.  I go right back to sleep after the bathroom 
trip.  I think I will call the County Health Nurse about this and see what 
she has to offer re diagnosing the type of mold present in my house.  This 
whole area used to be a swamp I am told.  The railroad bought the land years 
ago and drained a good deal of it.  Actually just one house east of mine, 
the land was still a swamp until a couple of year ago.  Migrating water 
birds would stop there and we could enjoy the sound of frogs croaking in 
spring.  The whole area has now been drained with varying success.  A 
neighbor across the street from me had his basement flooded recently due to 
some malfunction of the main pump used by the town to keep the water levels 
low.  A nursing home has been built on a higher portion of that ground.  I 
am told that you used to be able to row a boat from the closest town to the 
west , to Gibbon where I live.  You have given me some good starting places 
for research.  thanks again. Ruth

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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold/Just a thought

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Vwolf, My bowel tends to flop over on itself.  The diagram of my large 
bowel that the Dr. who did my exam of my large bowel with a scope, drew a 
diagram of my bowel in his report.  That looked like a piece of rope or 
something when you throw it down any which way.  The curves did not cross 
over one another, but just showed a long wavy line in the general shape of a 
normal colon.  Wavy is the right word for it.  One X-ray showed a corner of 
it completely flopped over on itself.  If it does this very often, it's no 
wonder things don't go through. But I guess I still feel that with changes 
to diet, medication, etc. it should be possible to overcome this without 
surgery.  That X-ray was taken some years ago and I have still continued to 
struggle along.  Guess , to some extent, its a matter of possibly exchanging 
one struggle with another, and nobody is guaranteeing a completle cure. I no 
longer have either an appendix or a gall bladder.  Was told removal of my 
gallbladder would be 95 percent certain to remove all my digestive problems. 
 Instead, they are worse, if anything.
  About the ileocecal valve, I have run into info about pressing downward 
and to the right over the area where it is supposed to be which is supposed 
to cause it to open up.  I do this during my ab massages morning and 
evening.  It doesn't help consistently, but that may be due to some of my 
interventions. I will give the pineapple juice in glass bottles a try.  I 
haven't done that before.
  This right sided pain is from the ileocecal area to the right side center 
of my ribcage.  I am being told that the left side is possibly the area 
where things get slowed up and the pain in the right side is from material 
trying to get through, including gas. Thanks again, all of you.  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein




From: vwol...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold/Just a thought
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:55:44 EDT

Hi Ruth...
my message is further down in your postV.

In a message dated 3/26/2007 5:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi, Rowena, Thanks very much for all the helpful information and websites
about mold. I am wondering if the mold in my house is a dangerous kind 
since

I am not sick in the usual ways described.  This is what puzzles my doctors
so much that I am not in severe pain, although it approaches severe in my
right abdomen
Ruth  the first thing I think of when you say right abdomenis
illeocall (sp) valve.
Where abouts in your right abdomen...say...from the belly button...lower
..higher?

I used to go to a chiropractor who would sometimes clear this valve
area..painful as the dickens but did help with bowel problems.

So I read up on it and it seems that the Illeocal Valve..often blocks up.
The chiropractor says  popcorn for instance will mess with it big time.

I also found that drinking pineapple juice is a great way to clear this 
valve.


I assume you have ruled out problems with the appendix?

If the pain is higher than the belly button...have you thought about gall
problems?

p.s.  Organic Pineapple Juice...in a glass bottle.
I think its very bad for the system to drink any thing acidic from cans.  
V.

oh, also..what is a floppy bowel?


when I waken during the night to go to the bathroom, but it
does not usually keep me awake.  I go right back to sleep after the 
bathroom

trip.  I think I will call the County Health Nurse about this and see what
she has to offer re diagnosing the type of mold present in my house.  This
whole area used to be a swamp I am told.  The railroad bought the land 
years

ago and drained a good deal of it.  Actually just one house east of mine,
the land was still a swamp until a couple of year ago.  Migrating water
birds would stop there and we could enjoy the sound of frogs croaking in
spring.  The whole area has now been drained with varying success.  A
neighbor across the street from me had his basement flooded recently due to
some malfunction of the main pump used by the town to keep the water levels
low.  A nursing home has been built on a higher portion of that ground.  I
am told that you used to be able to row a boat from the closest town to the
west , to Gibbon where I live.  You have given me some good starting places
for research.  thanks again. Ruth

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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Sol, Sometimes I think it is hard to tell whether one is having a Herx 
reaction or just another episode of whatever is wrong that you are trying to 
treat.  At least that is my experience.  Thanks, Ruth P.S. Thanks especially 
for info about quantity of CS.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:26:00 -0700

Ruth,
  I have taken between 0 and a quart a day of CS since I started using it 
at least 4 years ago. I have never once had a herx reaction. Some people 
may get a  herx from starting with too much, but I have never had one so I 
freely dose by symptoms or no symptoms. If I have had little or no CS for 
days and then eat something that gives me the gallops, I have no qualms 
about drinking 4 - 8 ounces right down. It stops the food borne 
bacteria/runs nearly immediately.

  I don't know if I am unusual in never getting a herx? Anybody know?
sol

ruth strackbein wrote:
I have been wondering the same thing.  I have a Silvergen now and am 
taking 1 tblsp a day.  That is up from a tsp a day to start with.  Didn't 
want to get a herx reaction.  Will have to look back in my files about EIS 
and mold.  Ruth



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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[sol]

Yes, I can see that might happen, but I really have never had a 
discernable herx. Really.


sol

ruth strackbein wrote:
Hi, Sol, Sometimes I think it is hard to tell whether one is having a 
Herx reaction or just another episode of whatever is wrong that you are 
trying to treat.  At least that is my experience.  Thanks, Ruth P.S. 
Thanks especially for info about quantity of CS.  Ruth



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CSDr. Huggins/thyroid

[marmar845]

 The digestion problems can be caused by fungal overgrowth either by  
 candida or maybe by aspergilllus or another fungus. There have been  
 several bad ones found in the gut of sick individuals, so it is hard to  
 say which it might be. But a good antifungal will kill them all, so it  
 is not important which species. What is important is rebuilding the  
 natural flora of the gut and supplementing with some vitamins to  
 correct the likely deficiencies that will have occured due to the lack  
 of good digestion.

 When you speak of a good antifungal, what specifically are you referring 
to?  A prescription drug?  Something from the HFS?  Thanks.  MA


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Re: CSDr. Huggins/thyroid

[Clayton Family]

Well, I had to wait to get diagnosed by a doctor, and he prescribed 
Diflucan, which he says is like a magic pill for fungus and candida, 
and is very well tolerated with few side effects.


Now that I have more faith in myself and my abilities to treat myself, 
I would look other natural antifungals.  I am using my homebrew 
colloidal silver for that reason. I have heard of others, like wild 
oregano oil which appears to do the same thing. The point being how can 
we get well if we are infected systemically with fungus infections? My 
private theory (well I guess not any more) is that as the fungus gets 
more extensive it puts out chemicals or compounds that supress our 
immune system which allows it to spread farther and faster. I have 
heard from some sufferers that they have had fungus identified in 
tissues that had to be taken out surgically, in many different areas of 
the body, including the organs, such as lungs, uterus, colon, sinuses 
and even the brain. I can't think of another explanation, and many 
biological systems work in that way. The biology of the whole thing 
gets very wierd, IMHO.


I don't know what the HFS is.

Kathryn

On Mar 25, 2007, at 6:24 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:




The digestion problems can be caused by fungal overgrowth either by
candida or maybe by aspergilllus or another fungus. There have been
several bad ones found in the gut of sick individuals, so it is hard 
to

say which it might be. But a good antifungal will kill them all, so it
is not important which species. What is important is rebuilding the
natural flora of the gut and supplementing with some vitamins to
correct the likely deficiencies that will have occured due to the lack
of good digestion.


 When you speak of a good antifungal, what specifically are you 
referring to?  A prescription drug?  Something from the HFS?  Thanks.  
MA






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Re: CSDr. Huggins/thyroid

[Pat]

Hahaha, HFS = health food store.  I have such a problem figuring out all these 
letters that I usually google them and get an internet slang page.  Don't think 
you'd find this one though.

- Original Message 
From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:28:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSDr. Huggins/thyroid

Well, I had to wait to get diagnosed by a doctor, and he prescribed 
Diflucan, which he says is like a magic pill for fungus and candida, 
and is very well tolerated with few side effects.

Now that I have more faith in myself and my abilities to treat myself, 
I would look other natural antifungals.  I am using my homebrew 
colloidal silver for that reason. I have heard of others, like wild 
oregano oil which appears to do the same thing. The point being how can 
we get well if we are infected systemically with fungus infections? My 
private theory (well I guess not any more) is that as the fungus gets 
more extensive it puts out chemicals or compounds that supress our 
immune system which allows it to spread farther and faster. I have 
heard from some sufferers that they have had fungus identified in 
tissues that had to be taken out surgically, in many different areas of 
the body, including the organs, such as lungs, uterus, colon, sinuses 
and even the brain. I can't think of another explanation, and many 
biological systems work in that way. The biology of the whole thing 
gets very wierd, IMHO.

I don't know what the HFS is.

Kathryn

On Mar 25, 2007, at 6:24 AM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 The digestion problems can be caused by fungal overgrowth either by
 candida or maybe by aspergilllus or another fungus. There have been
 several bad ones found in the gut of sick individuals, so it is hard 
 to
 say which it might be. But a good antifungal will kill them all, so it
 is not important which species. What is important is rebuilding the
 natural flora of the gut and supplementing with some vitamins to
 correct the likely deficiencies that will have occured due to the lack
 of good digestion.

  When you speak of a good antifungal, what specifically are you 
 referring to?  A prescription drug?  Something from the HFS?  Thanks.  
 MA




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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[Clayton Family]

I finally had to chime in here. I had a similar symptomology that  
looked for all the world like hypothyroid, but was not. My thyroid  
numbers were always fine. It turned out to be  a toxicity problem  
combined with big mold problems. Not digesting anything I ate, it got  
weird, and severe.


My temp used to be very low. When I got the fungal infections  
addressed, and dealt with the candida too (combo of diflucan and  
supplements), also got rid of the toxins in the home, my temps  
normalized, my blood pressure normalized, and I started feeling better  
too.


The digestion problems can be caused by fungal overgrowth either by  
candida or maybe by aspergilllus or another fungus. There have been  
several bad ones found in the gut of sick individuals, so it is hard to  
say which it might be. But a good antifungal will kill them all, so it  
is not important which species. What is important is rebuilding the  
natural flora of the gut and supplementing with some vitamins to  
correct the likely deficiencies that will have occured due to the lack  
of good digestion.


Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents

Kathryn

On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:45 AM, ruth strackbein wrote:

I'm not sure, am getting some advice from several people, especiallty  
about low thyroid.  Am in process of trying to remember 3 days in a  
row to take my temperature before getting out of bed.  Either I forget  
altogether, or have to go to the bathroom so badly that that takes  
precedent.  And sometimes I just give up for awhile.  I did take it  
this morning.  97.3  which I suspect is a lilttle low, but it has been  
like that any time of day  like at the doctor's for years and he  
always says it is good. Thanks, Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: vwol...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:35:00 EDT



Dear Ruth...while it sounds as though you have a Dr. with some  
smarts...a

total large bowel removal sounds very drastic.
Is there something that the very wise and knowledgable people  here  
can help

you with?

Anyone?   V

In a message dated 3/22/2007 5:44:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi, My cholesterol also runs around 200-220 and has for quite a few  
years,
at least since I've been tested.  Fortunately my Doctor does not buy  
into
the cholesterol humbug, so I have not been put on drugs.  Of course,  
part of
the reason for this, I'm sure, is that my digestive tract problems  
would
make figuring out a drug to use would be difficult if not impossible.  
 He
has had enough trouble with trying to get me to take tranquilizing  
drugs, (
not sure if this is the right category), and various other things  
that are

supposed to help my bowel problems.  He has given up on the medicines.
Thankfully, but now recommends total large bowel removal.. I am  
resisting

this, so far.  Ruth

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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[Dee]

Shouldn't EIS combat the mold problem?  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Clayton Family
Date: 03/24/07 06:24:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid
 
I finally had to chime in here. I had a similar symptomology that
looked for all the world like hypothyroid, but was not. My thyroid
numbers were always fine. It turned out to be  a toxicity problem
combined with big mold problems. Not digesting anything I ate, it got
weird, and severe.
 
My temp used to be very low. When I got the fungal infections
addressed, and dealt with the candida too (combo of diflucan and
supplements), also got rid of the toxins in the home, my temps
normalized, my blood pressure normalized, and I started feeling better
too.
 

Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[ruth strackbein]

Thanks, Kathryn.  My house does have a mold problem.  Actually, I doubt that 
it is altogether curable, the house, that is. There is apparently an odor, 
also, so my grandchldren tell me.  I don';t notice it, but have lived here 
since 1988 so have probably got used to it, though I don't remember ever 
noticing it, but I don't remember alot of things.  I am currently 
researching a site called www.doctorsresearch.com about vitamins, especially 
natural vitamin c  .  I really don't think removing my large colon is going 
to solve all my problems and my doctors doubt that, too since the pain is 
right sided with sharp pain under right center ribcage and more of a burning 
down in the ileo region. Both extend along the right side of my abdomen with 
none on the left side, for the most part.  I am not sure what to do about 
the house.  Can' t spend alot as I am low income level. The answer may be to 
move into an apartment.  I am wondering about even that since this whole 
area is prone to dampness and mold.  The last radon reading I had was 
slightly high.  Since then I have had a beaver system put in which has 
elilminated at least gross moisture in the basement. Cement walls and floor 
have been dry since then.  I also haad cracks in the walls sealed.  have not 
had a radon count since then.  Probably should do that.  However, the 
original carpets are still in the house.  Thanks again for your reply.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:23:20 -0600

I finally had to chime in here. I had a similar symptomology that  looked 
for all the world like hypothyroid, but was not. My thyroid  numbers were 
always fine. It turned out to be  a toxicity problem  combined with big 
mold problems. Not digesting anything I ate, it got  weird, and severe.


My temp used to be very low. When I got the fungal infections  addressed, 
and dealt with the candida too (combo of diflucan and  supplements), also 
got rid of the toxins in the home, my temps  normalized, my blood pressure 
normalized, and I started feeling better  too.


The digestion problems can be caused by fungal overgrowth either by  
candida or maybe by aspergilllus or another fungus. There have been  
several bad ones found in the gut of sick individuals, so it is hard to  
say which it might be. But a good antifungal will kill them all, so it  is 
not important which species. What is important is rebuilding the  natural 
flora of the gut and supplementing with some vitamins to  correct the 
likely deficiencies that will have occured due to the lack  of good 
digestion.


Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents

Kathryn

On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:45 AM, ruth strackbein wrote:

I'm not sure, am getting some advice from several people, especiallty  
about low thyroid.  Am in process of trying to remember 3 days in a  row 
to take my temperature before getting out of bed.  Either I forget  
altogether, or have to go to the bathroom so badly that that takes  
precedent.  And sometimes I just give up for awhile.  I did take it  this 
morning.  97.3  which I suspect is a lilttle low, but it has been  like 
that any time of day  like at the doctor's for years and he  always says 
it is good. Thanks, Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: vwol...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:35:00 EDT



Dear Ruth...while it sounds as though you have a Dr. with some  
smarts...a

total large bowel removal sounds very drastic.
Is there something that the very wise and knowledgable people  here  can 
help

you with?

Anyone?   V

In a message dated 3/22/2007 5:44:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi, My cholesterol also runs around 200-220 and has for quite a few  
years,
at least since I've been tested.  Fortunately my Doctor does not buy  
into
the cholesterol humbug, so I have not been put on drugs.  Of course,  
part of

the reason for this, I'm sure, is that my digestive tract problems  would
make figuring out a drug to use would be difficult if not impossible.   
He
has had enough trouble with trying to get me to take tranquilizing  
drugs, (
not sure if this is the right category), and various other things  that 
are

supposed to help my bowel problems.  He has given up on the medicines.
Thankfully, but now recommends total large bowel removal.. I am  
resisting

this, so far.  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein





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Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

[ruth strackbein]

I have been wondering the same thing.  I have a Silvergen now and am taking 
1 tblsp a day.  That is up from a tsp a day to start with.  Didn't want to 
get a herx reaction.  Will have to look back in my files about EIS and mold. 
 Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Dee  d...@deetroy.org
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:54:49 + (GMT Standard Time)

Shouldn't EIS combat the mold problem?  Dee

---Original Message---

From: Clayton Family
Date: 03/24/07 06:24:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins/thyroid

I finally had to chime in here. I had a similar symptomology that
looked for all the world like hypothyroid, but was not. My thyroid
numbers were always fine. It turned out to be  a toxicity problem
combined with big mold problems. Not digesting anything I ate, it got
weird, and severe.

My temp used to be very low. When I got the fungal infections
addressed, and dealt with the candida too (combo of diflucan and
supplements), also got rid of the toxins in the home, my temps
normalized, my blood pressure normalized, and I started feeling better
too.



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Re: CS Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold

[Rowena]

Ruth, I really don't like the thought of you having the same carpets that 
have been down since before all the damp problems.  Mold, dampness etc. are 
like poison.

I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it.  It was 
told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced flooding. 
The insurance company didn't want to pay up.  While the arguing was going 
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband 
became ill.  On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert in 
mold.  Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house.  They were 
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all from 
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there.  The son 
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged.  I may not have 
full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a transcript 
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
Rowena



 My house does have a mold problem.  Actually, I doubt that
it is altogether curable, the house, that is.  .  The answer 
may be to
move into an apartment.  I am wondering about even that since this whole
area is prone to dampness and mold.  The last radon reading I had was
slightly high.  Since then I have had a beaver system put in which has
elilminated at least gross moisture in the basement. Cement walls and floor
have been dry since then.  I also had cracks in the walls sealed.  have not
had a radon count since then.  Probably should do that.  However, the
original carpets are still in the house. 


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