Re: [SLUG] Two concurrent Gnome Desktops?

[Brett Fenton]

thats a neat feature i wasnt aware of ... anything similar for kde?

regards, brett

On Friday 04 February 2005 13:28, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
>
> >   Applications > System Tools > New Login
> >   Applications > System Tools > New Login in a Nested Window
> >
> > Hopefully this functionality will be exposed in a much nicer way during
> > the next GNOME development cycle. :-)
>
> It probably won't work this way in GNOME proper, but if your distro ships
> the user switching applet, or you're happy building it, you'll probably
> enjoy this:
>
>   http://esco.mine.nu/category/code/fast-user-switching-applet/
>
> - Jeff
>
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Re: [SLUG] Copying a CD to disk image

[Brett Fenton]

sounds like you're out of luck. 

as a last resort, you could try mounting the cd, copying recursivley the 
contents to a temporary directory then using mkisofs to make the iso. 

fwiw. i've only ever had this problem on burnt disks. they appear fine in some 
cd devices and have difficulties in others. 

regards, brett

On Thursday 27 January 2005 08:57, Peter Rundle wrote:
> Sluggers,
>
> I've always been able to make a copy of a cd or floppy onto the hard disk
> by using dd. I.E
>
>dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myimage.iso
>
> I've been trying to do this with some FC3 cd's but after copying about
> 630Mb the process starts throwing messages up onto the console about bad
> block read's. This goes on for several minutes and trying to kill the dd
> process doesn't seem to work, though it eventually dies. When I mount the
> resulting .iso images with -o loop they appear ok and I can see all the
> directories and file names but if I try to copy an .rpm from the mounted
> file system it's no good. So obviously the cd's are dud right!
>
> BUT! I've just done an install of a working system from the very same CD's
> and even ran through the little check media utility at the start which said
> the CD's were OK.
>
> What give's?
>
> Pete
>
> P.S I've tried using dd's bs=512, 1024 and 2048 but the result is
> unchanged.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Slow Wireless Speed (Peter Rundle)

[Brett Fenton]

Seriously? with .11b it was only slightly more than plugging the card in, 
compiling the module into the kernel and a little config 
in /etc/network/interfaces

Ok it's not .11g but it all just works, Linux, Mac and Windows all happily 
residing on the network. 

On Friday 14 January 2005 11:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Please give list, or me, a two-liner to say what you have done.
> I have spent months, and $1000s to get two linux boxes to talk to
> one-another wirelessly.
>
> This list offered 'go to Dick Smith and get a pile of cards' to try.
>
> I eventally got two ciso aironet 350 cards working beatifully, the only
> down side is that I need to do it 30 times, and the ciso cost $500 EACH.
>
> Thanks
> James

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Re: [SLUG] OT: Optus cable problem?

[Brett Fenton]

if it's one of the motorola surfboards i had a similar thing happen about 6 
months ago. my access speed would crap out. a powercycle would briefly 
resolve. then i was getting intermittant access before it finally died. 

On Friday 07 January 2005 17:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've just been off the net with a suspected Cable modem failure (Optus,
> 26 hrs).  But it's just spontaneously started working again.  Anyone
> else here experienced the same thing, or was it really just me?
>
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Re: [SLUG] sshd config: tighten access ?

[Brett Fenton]

what do you use the machines for? if there are no services that require 
general access eg a web or mail server, you can use hosts.allow and 
hosts.deny to basically deny everything other than what is in the hosts.allow 
file. you could add some general C class block (or B class) to hosts.allow

if you're really interested you can add a line like to hosts.deny

ALL: ALL: spawn (/bin/echo -e "%d %a %c %s from %h at `date`" |/usr/bin/mail 
-s 'LOGIN ATTEMPT %h %a' [EMAIL PROTECTED])&

which basically emails you a log each time someone tries to connect. the 
connections will always fail unless they are coming from an IP from within an 
IP or IP range specified in hosts.allow

regards, brett

On Thursday 30 December 2004 13:01, Voytek wrote:
> I just looked through some logs, and, see a lot of attempted access like:
>
> # grep "illegal user" secure
> Dec 29 10:10:11 koala sshd[20080]: input_userauth_request: illegal user
> jane Dec 29 10:10:14 koala sshd[20080]: Failed password for illegal user
> jane from 20
> 3.42.32.89 port 56720 ssh2
> Dec 29 10:10:15 koala sshd[20083]: input_userauth_request: illegal user
> jane Dec 29 10:10:16 koala sshd[20085]: input_userauth_request: illegal
> user pamela
> Dec 29 10:10:18 koala sshd[20083]: Failed password for illegal user jane
> from 20
> 3.42.32.89 port 56825 ssh2
> Dec 29 10:10:18 koala sshd[20085]: Failed password for illegal user pamela
> from
> 203.42.32.89 port 56842 ssh2
> Dec 29 10:10:20 koala sshd[20088]: input_userauth_request: illegal user
> pamela
> Dec 29 10:10:22 koala sshd[20088]: Failed password for illegal user pamela
> from
> 203.42.32.89 port 56898 ssh2
> Dec 29 22:52:18 koala sshd[944]: input_userauth_request: illegal user test
> Dec 29 22:52:21 koala sshd[944]: Failed password for illegal user test
> from 213.
> 149.114.51 port 59211 ssh2
> Dec 30 10:48:10 koala sshd[30110]: input_userauth_request: illegal user
> test Dec 30 10:48:10 koala sshd[30109]: input_userauth_request: illegal
> user test Dec 30 10:48:14 koala sshd[30109]: Failed password for illegal
> user test from 64
> .174.136.250 port 2399 ssh2
> Dec 30 10:48:14 koala sshd[30110]: Failed password for illegal user test
> from 64
> .174.136.250 port 2401 ssh2
> Dec 30 10:48:22 koala sshd[30111]: input_userauth_request: illegal user
> guest Dec 30 10:48:24 koala sshd[30111]: Failed password for illegal user
> guest from 6
> 4.174.136.250 port 2433 ssh2
>
> what should I do to increase security ?
>
> 99% of the time, I'm the sole user accessing via ssh, ocassionally, I
> temporarily allow someone else.
> 80% of the time, I ssh from a fixed IP, rest of the time, I ssh from
> several Aussie ISP dislups/adsl
>
> is it worthwile to scan logs and block these ips temporarily ?
>
> is it easy to add such IPs to my ipchains ?
>
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [SLUG] Gateway(?) problems -

[Brett Fenton]

if y is your gateway, there is the possibility that it's handling doing that 
via iptables. if this is the case then you might need to manually 
re-establish the packet forwarding between that machine and the local 
network. 

it's been a while for me but it's something like:

echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

which of course is typed as root in a console on Y

regards, brett


On Thursday 09 December 2004 09:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi - how's things?  =)
>
> We recently had a huge blackout in the midst of a number of violent
> electrical storms, and it lasted long enough for the UPS battery supply to
> drain, so our servers died uncleanly (I have'nt set up anything to listen
> for the UPS's warnings)...
>
> Since then we have had problems with our network.
>
> Here is a basic rundown of the setup
>
>
>[ A ] [ B ] [ C ] LOCAL NETWORK
>
>  |_|_|
>
>   [ X ]  [ Y ]  [ Z ]  SERVERS
>
> |__|__|
>
>  [ P ]   SWITCH
>
>
>  [ Q ]   ROUTER
>
>
>   { Internet }
>
>
> ( I hope this email preservers the mono-space text... if you can't make it
> out, you know why!!  =)  change the font to so mono-spaced thing)
>
> As I (hope) you can see we have our local network, which is where all our
> workstations are. IP Addresses are in the 10.0.0. class.
>
> Our main server is the [ Y ] server, and has a 202.22.*.* IP address. It's
> a webserver, and holds our main webpages, CGI, MySQL etc. etc. , The other
> servers [ X ] [ Z ]  etc. are various servers ranging from webservers to
> mail servers.
>
> The switch [ P ] is a simple 12 port 10/100 switch. Nothing special about
> it.
>
> [ Q ] is some crazy router setup that was in place before my time, and we
> are actually replacing it sometime in the (relatively) near future. It
> goes straight to the local backbone. Good Internet connection =)
>
> --
>
> Normally we run everything from the local network, we browse the net,
> collect emails, pay bills, and use the back-end pages from the [ Y ]
> server to administer the main web site. [ Y ] is our gateway to the rest
> of the world, through the [ Q ] router etc.
>
> Since the blackout however, something has gone wrong. We cannot get past
> the [ Y ] server from our local machines. The [ Y ] server CAN get out to
> the internet, and so can [ X ] [ Z ] and co. No problems from there on
> out. The internet can also still see our [ X Y Z ] servers no problems. We
> [ A B C ] can also see the [ Y ] Server, but nothing else. We can't see [
> X ] [ Z ] or anything else past [ Y ] including [ P ] [ Q ] and the net.
>
> We have had a problem before that yielded similar results - when our
> 'bind' (/named) instance died. If that happened we couldn't see past [ Y ]
> unles of course we used IP addresses, until we restarted 'named'. It would
> happen spontaneously and was a real pain, something we still haven't
> figured out (if you have any ideas on that one, please let me know too) -
> but our main problem ATM is this other thing.
>
> We can't get past [ Y ] at all. No IP addresses, nothing.
>
> I am not experienced enough at Linux to know what I can do to overcome
> this, and I've tried!!  - IP routing tables appear to be fine ( .. but
> maybe not ), 'named' is running perfectly, I've restarted the server 3 or
> so times, restarted 'named', restarted a number of things, but to no
> avail.
>
> What kind of program might be running that handles gateway functions -
> most likely NAT and the like ?? To my memory, I changed absolutely nothing
> that should effect our access to things beyond [ Y ]. !?
>
> If anyone has any ideas or solutions, I would LOVE to hear it! Even if
> it's just a theory u might have so I can check it out. Better than nothing
> right? - Also, please keep in mind I'm not extremely Linux savvy, so try
> to spell it out a bit for me.  =)
>
> hehe..
>
> Thanks a lot for your time - sorry the question is a bit long-winded, but
> hopefully it's clear ;)
>
> Any queries on it, just drop me a line (email). Ta.
>
> Jared Pritchard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [SLUG] ext3 to ext2?

[Brett Fenton]

you may be lucky and have only killed the journal. if this is the case 
probably changing the /etc/fstab entries to ext2 might solve your problem and 
let you boot. 

ymmv, b

On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:55, William Chivers wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Please don't ask why, but I put a Lindows sampler CD into my Mandrake
> 9.2 machine at home. You know these CDs: they allow you to look at the
> distro without touching your hard disk...
>
> Presented with a choice of "sample" or "configure", I chose "configure"
> to try to take control of hardware detection. A couple of minutes later
> when I returned to the machine I found messages about "converting
> /dev/hdb9 to ext2" etc. No warning, no dialogue box "Do you really want
> to do this", or "backup your data".
>
> Am I stuffed? Trying to re-boot into Mandrake failed with a Kernel panic
> - no init. As the /home directory is in its own partition, I tried to
> upgrade to Mandrake10 but again, this failed as the root partition was
> unreadable. So I installed Mandrake10 leaving the old /home partition
> alone. Booting into Mandrake10 there is nothing in the old /home
> partition.
>
> Most of the data on this partition is backed up on my trusty pentium II
> running a very minimal Debian stable ftp server, but not all. Sigh.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Chivers
>
> BTW, I have been thinking of automating backup from the server end. Any
> thoughts on the script to do this (or existing software)?
>
> -
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> Australia
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Re: [SLUG] Generating a website map

[Brett Fenton]

linklint will do exactly what you want. it's an apt-get for debian, i dont 
know what the status is for other distros.

regards, brett

On Monday 22 November 2004 20:46, Ken Foskey wrote:
> I am currently revising http://udk.openoffice.org website to fix the
> wording spelling and formatting of the website.  I am tripping over a
> lot of dead documents in the website so I want to start with a map and
> publish a list of all those documents not in the map for confirmation.
> So what do I need:
>
> Is there a way of identifying all pages that are not linked to?
>
> My thought was to start with a website map that shows what links to what
> and then graphviz this to show things that are orphans or branches that
> are orphans.
>
> Any suggestions on tools that extract links from websites,  website is
> checked out on my hard disk so file based is fine.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Evolution and sending mail

[Brett Fenton]

I could be understanding this incorrectly. but you're on the university 
network presently and are trying to send mail out through the mail server of 
your isp?

if this is the case the isp will have relaying turned of on their mailservers 
effectively stopping anyone from outside of their network sending mail via 
their mail servers (unless they have have smtp authentication happening for 
instance). which is what is preventing you from sending mail. 

of course i could have completely misunderstood the situation you're trying to 
describe. 

regards, brett

On Friday 19 November 2004 10:21, Denis Crowdy wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Trying to set up my mail using evolution (debian unstable) - various
> reasons including work shifting to groupwise, and nice palm syncing for
> the address book.
>
> I read mail from an imap server and have my ISP's smtp server set as the
> outgoing server.  When I send mail, however, I get blocked by the
> MAPS(?) service "refused by blackhole site yada yada yada".  Have
> contacted the support people there who point out that this is because my
> mail appears to come from a dynamic IP address, hence the blocking.
> Conclusion - it must be a setup problem on my box.
>
> I can send mail from mutt, and have set up exim (using dpkg-reconfigure
> exim) as option 2 (the dialup system) with the ISPs server as the
> outgoing mail machine.
>
> When I set up evolution at work, using the uni's outgoing mail server, I
> have no problem.
>
> Any ideas?  Something stupid and simple I've missed I'm positive.
>
> Denis Crowdy
>
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Re: [SLUG] Mandrake non-usb scanner permissions woes

[Brett Fenton]

the scanner will be in /dev however by the interface the device is connected 
across. if it's on a parallel port it'll be /dev/lp0 or ./lp1 etc. 

you can create a scanner group, modify permissions/group on the device, and 
add the users you want to the group and you should be able to scan ok. 

regards, brett

On Tuesday 16 November 2004 09:30, William Chivers wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I hope that this email is the appropriate way to add a question to the
> discussion. If not, apologies for the unsolicited email.
>
> Has anyone managed to get a parallel port scanner (CanoScan N 340P)
> working with Mandrake 10.0? I used the Mandrake configuration tool to
> setup the scanner - it had the scanner model in its list - and according
> to the setup tool all went well. However, noone but the root user can
> use the scanner - no other user has the appropriate permissions. The
> scanner works well for the root user, by the way.
>
> Searching for this problem in Slug and elsewhere locates plenty of
> information about this problem and USB scanners, but nothing for
> parallel scanners.
>
> Should I locate the offending file and change its permissions? If so,
> what is the file? Searching file:/ for "scanner" did not find anything
> relevant. There is no scanner entry in /dev. Or should I somehow add
> users to the scaner group or vice-versa?
>
> I had this problem with Mandrake 9.1 and 9.2 and just ran the scanner as
> root, thinking that Mandrake might eventually sort this out...
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Chivers
>
> -
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> University of Newcastle---Ourimbah Campus
> PO Box 127, Ourimbah, NSW 2259
> Australia
>
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Re: [SLUG] Modifying GRUB to remove graphics

[Brett Fenton]

no grub is smart enough to handle the changes, just reboot ...

regards, brett

On Thursday 11 November 2004 09:18, DaZZa wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Brett Fenton wrote:
> > i think you are talking about editing menu.lst which is probably going to
> > reside someplace like /boot/grub/menu.lst
> >
> > then you'll want to add a line like:
> >
> > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> >
> > where splash.xpm.gz is the image you want to load, or alternatively
> > comment the line out if you want to get rid of the image, this just gives
> > you a plain text boot screen.
>
> Do you need to run grub to re-read the config file like you do LILO, or is
> GRUB smart enough to just read the config without it?
>
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Re: [SLUG] Modifying GRUB to remove graphics

[Brett Fenton]

i think you are talking about editing menu.lst which is probably going to 
reside someplace like /boot/grub/menu.lst

then you'll want to add a line like:

splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

where splash.xpm.gz is the image you want to load, or alternatively comment 
the line out if you want to get rid of the image, this just gives you a plain 
text boot screen.

regards, brett

On Thursday 11 November 2004 09:05, DaZZa wrote:
> Grub experts please. :-)
>
> I've just installed SuSE 9.1 on my work desktop dual booting with XP
> across two ATA drives.
>
> Unfortunately, for some reason, LILO didn't like this configuration
> {windows booting off drive 1, & Linux booting of a partition on drive 2},
> so I had to install GRUB instead.
>
> I don't know how to edit GRUB's configuration files without breaking
> anything, and I want to remove the damn fscking annoying "blue" screen
> SuSE puts around VC1 - I believe it's done through GRUB, but I'm buggered
> if I know how to get rid of it.
>
> Can someone apply the cluestick, please?
>
> DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Preventing attacks

[Brett Fenton]

i think a few hours is a stretch (on a p4 in any event)

http://www.cryptography.com/resources/whitepapers/DES.html

high end gear ... not really, but purpose built and using inadequacies in the 
standard to optimize the cryptanalysis routine

regards, brett

On Tuesday 09 November 2004 14:25, James Gregory wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:31:50PM +1100, Toliman wrote:
> > and it is 'relatively' secure, in that it would hopefully
> > take a p4 a few hours to brute force... more likely in minutes.
>
> How long is 'a few hours'? I didn't think things were that dire. Are you
> talking about a straight brute force or some kind of known-plaintext
> attack or what?
>
> James.
>
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> an insurmountable opportunity."
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Re: [SLUG] How to rename partitions

[Brett Fenton]

all you need to change is fstab as long as your are referencing the drive 
correctly then it should be fine. this is all i did when i cut over and it's 
no probs, in fact i still have old kernels in grub and to boot off one of 
them i simply edit fstab and go back.

brett

On Saturday 06 November 2004 20:58, Rod Butcher wrote:
>  >I've heard (but not confirmed) the latest 2.6
>  > SATA drivers do live under /dev/sd* instead of /dev/hd*.  You'll need to
>  > confirm the your kernel actually supports it.>
>
> I'm talking about 2.6.8 and up - they default to libata which refers to
> SATA drives as SCSI and hence sda1 etc. so to load this kernel which
> wants sda*, on a system built for 2.6.7 i.e. hda*, what do I change
> apart from fstab ?
> I can bootup 2.6.10 compiled to inhibit libata, and it accepts hda*
> fine.. I'm using it as I speak... but this is deprecated.
> So.. to bootup 2.6.10 using (the recommended) libata, I believe the
> question is how do I rename my partitions to sda* ?
> Changing the grub files and fstab didn't work.
> I've asked this question before but still no luck. man fstab didn't help
> me.. I'll RTFM if I can find what FM to RT.
> cheers
> Rod
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>
> Keith Hopkins wrote:
> > Rod Butcher wrote:
> >> Hello sluggers, if I want to change the name of a drive & partition
> >> from say hda1 to sda1, what do I need to do in addition to updating
> >> /etc/fstab ? If I just change fstab and try to boot a kernel using
> >> libata to access SATA drives, it can't find /dev/sda.
> >> thanks
> >> Rod
> >
> > Hi Rod,
> >
> >   You can't just "change it" for the sake of changing it.  The device
> > name is (for the most part) assigned by the driver that controls that
> > device.  Once upon a time, SATA drives fell under the /dev/hd* model.
> > If your kernel has that set of drivers, then you are stuck with
> > /dev/hda, /dev/hda1, etc.  I've heard (but not confirmed) the latest 2.6
> > SATA drivers do live under /dev/sd* instead of /dev/hd*.  You'll need to
> > confirm the your kernel actually supports it.
> >
> >   Try booting your kernel into single user mode, and looking at dmesg to
> > see how it maps the drives.  You might even manage a `fdisk -l`
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Re: [SLUG] ide-scsi on vanilla 2.6.9

[Brett Fenton]

it depends on how you've built the kernel but scsi emulation is being 
depreciated and you should be able to burn directly to the ide device now. 
for example if you use cdrecord, you no longer have to use the lun's but can 
call the /dev/hd* directly.

regards, brett

On Sunday 07 November 2004 02:13, Vino Fernando Crescini wrote:
> Is there anybody using ide-scsi on a plain 2.6.9 kernel? "eject -t" (on
> /dev/sr0) doesn't seem to be working anymore.
> 
> Vino Fernando Crescini
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Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 & 9 sorted out

[Brett Fenton]

Right your PATA devices don't change, so it makes no difference. If you had 
SATA devices in there and cut from say a 2.6.5 to a 2.6.8 kernel your SATA 
devices would go from /dev/hd* to /dev/sd*, it's not a big deal other than 
needing to modify fstab to accomodate the change.

regards, brett

On Wednesday 03 November 2004 19:10, Heracles wrote:
> Brett Fenton wrote:
> >I'm pretty sure this is wrong. My understanding is that in earlier kernels
> >sata devices were recognized as IDE devices, post 2.6.7 they were
> > recognized as SCSI devices. so regardless of whether cabling has altered
> > or not the fstab entries will be wrong and need to be modified. on my
> > system for example the first sata disk was /dev/hde and the root
> > partition /dev/hde1 this needed to be changed to /dev/sda1.
>
> This is unusual. I have two SATA interfaces, but my IDE (PATA?) devices
> are called /dev/hde /dev/hdf etc.
>
> Stay well and happy
> Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Bootup with 2.6.8 & 9 sorted out

[Brett Fenton]

On Wednesday 03 November 2004 07:42, O Plameras wrote:

> > 4. Question :- do people need to change all SATA entries from HDA etc.
> > to SDA to use the new libata ?
> > I'd be really greatful if somebody with 2.6.8 or 9 could send me a
> > copy of their fstab file, and tell me whether it was installed fresh
> > or as an upgrade from 2.6.7.
>
> Again, you don't if you did not re-arrange the physical connections.

I'm pretty sure this is wrong. My understanding is that in earlier kernels 
sata devices were recognized as IDE devices, post 2.6.7 they were recognized 
as SCSI devices. so regardless of whether cabling has altered or not the 
fstab entries will be wrong and need to be modified. on my system for example 
the first sata disk was /dev/hde and the root partition /dev/hde1 this needed 
to be changed to /dev/sda1. 

fortunately i use grub and usually leave the old kernels listed in menu.lst, 
so it was simply a matter of booting into a 2.6.5, altering fstab and 
rebooting into 2.6.8.

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Re: [SLUG] question to mutt users

[Brett Fenton]

there might be an easier way to do it, though not that i'm aware of. 

basically you need a separate mda like fetchmail, i prefer getmail as it's 
config is easier. pipe that through sortmail and it separates your mail into 
mailfiles based on whatever rules you define.

brett

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> Hi,
>
> I'm currently using evolution and I'm trying to convert to mutt.
> I've worked out a few things so far, but one obstacle is filters.
>
> In evolution I'm able to filter incoming mail into mailboxes.
> How can I do this with mutt?
>
> TIA,
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Re: [SLUG] Apple 23"

[Brett Fenton]

I've done the 20" ...

It wasn't a big deal just add the mode lines into the config and away you go. 
I had more difficulty getting my particular card to operate, which was 
unrelated to the monitor choice.

regards, brett

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 15:18, Malik Jayawardena wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any clue about getting an Apple 23" display running at
> full res ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on XFree86?
>
> Haven't tried it yet, but I'd like to get a heads up.
>
> I know it's old but we're using RH 7.3 at the mo.
>
> Cheers,
> -Mal

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[SLUG] 2.6.8 and usb mass storage

[Brett Fenton]

Hi,

I upgraded to 2.6.8 (from 2.6.5) a couple of weeks back and everything was 
relatively smooth with the exception that my sata disks changed from being 
recognized as ide devices (hd*) to scsi disks (sd*). 

I went to use an occasionally used lacie external usb hard drive on the 
weekend only to find this no longer functioned (and it's been fine since i 
first got it and was using a 2.4.20 kernel). i figured i may have forgotten 
to configure the kernel accordingly and wanted to change to 2.6.8.1 in any 
event. it turns out the kernel options were compiled in (scsi disk support 
and usb mass storage support and usb generic support) the device still no 
longer functions in fact it's not even detected when i plug it in. a usb 
flash drive i has is still fine, detects as a scsi device (/dev/sdc) it alos 
appears in /proc/scsi/usb-storage.

any hints here? or anyone else finding similar problems? i've googled on this 
for a few hours and have found some similar problems recorded but no 
suggestions as to fixes etc.

brett
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

[Brett Fenton]

are you serious?

go to any large online store supplying mp3 players. you'll typically notice 
far more than 4 brands of players.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/516878/1/ref=br_lpsp_pg/103-9405839-2431815?

31 pages of products for "all mp3 players" in fact. 

ok ok maybe 99% might be an exaggeration, though probably not by much.

brett

On Wednesday 08 September 2004 16:56, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Brett Fenton wrote:
> >umm  because 99% of portable music players don't support the formats?
>
> iAudio, iRiver support ogg
>
> iPod, and one other brand I can't recall right now don't.
>
> that's 50% each way.
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

[Brett Fenton]

umm  because 99% of portable music players don't support the formats?

brett

On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:20, Robert Collins wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 15:14 +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
> > What do people use to encode mp3s on debian?
> >
> > Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff.
>
> I know this doesn't answer your question... but why not use flac or
> ogg ?
>
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian

[Brett Fenton]

lame

On Wednesday 08 September 2004 15:14, Terry Collins wrote:
> What do people use to encode mp3s on debian?
>
> Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Home LAN IP details

[Brett Fenton]

nmap -sP xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24

where the xxx's are your subnet. typically it will be something like 
192.168.0.0/24 or 10.1.1.0/24

this is assuming your machines are responding to pings

b

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:44 pm, bill wrote:
> I have a home LAN  - 3 PC's networked via an ethernet switch and connected
> to the 'Net via a modem/router.
>
> The PC's IP's are generated by the modem/router via DHCP.
>
> AS the IP assigned appears to depend on the socket on the ethernet switch
> to which the PC is connected, and as  each PC is running a different OS or
> Linux distro ( some of which are lacking access to basic commands such as
> ifconfig), and 1 PC is running without monitor/keyboard/mouse  and is
> accessed via tightvnc, is there a command or a GUI that will give me the
> hostnames and IP's of each PC connected to the LAN?
>
> I have googled and read many networking/vnc howto's etc with no luck.
>
> thanks in advance
>
> BILL
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Re: [SLUG] Boot hangs at 'Starting Samba daemons: nmbd smbd'

[Brett Fenton]

i just had this same issue there may be other options. but i found the 
choices to be either remove samba and reinstall from archive, if you in 
fact archive the installed packages, or just get the testing releases by 
modding the sources list. i was being lazy and did the latter, samba is 
now working again for me at 3.0.2, i'm sure unstable will be fixed in 
the next few days or so.

regards, brett
Adam Felix Bogacki wrote:
Hi,
   I did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing' yesterday which at the 
install phase 'hung' on the message

"Starting Samba daemons: nmbd smbd"
... dselect 'c' installed the rest but I found that reboot 'hung' on
"rsync daemon not enabled in /etc/default/rsync
Starting Samba daemons: nmbd smbd"
... until reboot..
I tried booting from the mkinitrd image but it stalled at the same message.
Is this a known bug ?
I have heard something about about rsync being buggy in unstable (if 
that's relevant).

Google assumes you can first boot in and then do things as root.
Adam Bogacki,
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Re: [SLUG] External USB Hard Drive Case + HDD

[Brett Fenton]

I've got a Lacie 120GB USB2 external HDD. There wasn't much required to 
get it going. I already had USB2 working and also USB-storage, basically 
I just plugged it in, looked in /proc/scsi and it was there as /dev/scd2 
from memory (as I already had two ide cd-r's in the box as scd1 and 2). 
From there it was just a matter or creating the FS and mounting it.

Good luck

Brett

Gerard Blacklock wrote:
Slug,

Anyone had any luck in getting an external USB hard drive to work under 
linux? I have had the USB keys working fine by mounting as FAT no probs,

Any pointers on where to look regarding this issue? not 100% sure where 
to start!

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Re: [SLUG] talk proposal & request for help with lftp

[Brett Fenton]

Try escaping out the spaces.

So for example 'pass word here' would become pass\ word\ here

M.da Cruz wrote:
Hi All,

I have recently switched to Linux and now have it running on my Targa
Traveller laptop including the winmodem :-)
I bought the Openskills/SLUG Debian CD, also tried Fedora on loan, but 
ended up installing knoppix. If this stuff is of interest I could share 
my experiences in a talk.

My current challenge is to successfully conect to my webhosting service
using lftp. It's an Apache server with one time passwords. These
are a set of ten words with spaces... The debug 4 to turn on error 
messages was a step forward and I have tried replacing the spaces 
between the words with %20 - but still get an incorrect login message. 
Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

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Re: [SLUG] NetRegistry: December Newsletter

[Brett Fenton]

Guys,

I'm really sorry this was posted to the list. An error was made in me 
doing testing on a script.

Humble apologies.

Brett Fenton

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Re: [SLUG] work apparently available yet no-one seems interested

[Brett Fenton]

a. it's from an agency so it's 50/50 as to whether it's a genuine 
placement or a resume collector

b. salary is unquantified, so highly qualified people may be applying 
only to find it's $15/hr thus quickly losing interest

c. for someone very qualified the role is very mundane in the 
generalized description given, anyone with several years of exp isn't at 
face value going to find a lot of meat in it

d. its a short contract so many people have only limited interest

e. maybe it's poorly worded re:requirments and he's received hundreds of 
apps but none meet his internal job spec or are of interest to the 
client, thus the cycle perpetuates with each relisting 

regards
brett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I refer to the job set out below, which I found on JobNet.
It has appeared repeatedly over the last few weeks and I am
surprised the advertisers haven't been killed in the rush.
Does anyone know why the job is still there?
 - Jim Donovan



JOBNET - The Career Centre for IT Professionals.

JOB REF:  JN/NH1001- (PLEASE quote this reference number.)
POSITION: Systems Engineer
JOB TYPE: Contract
SKILLS: Our Client is looking for an enthusiastic Linux support engineer fluent with 
Versions 7,8 and 9 to become a member of a efficient and dedicated team.
A successful candidate will able to Build, Configure and maintain Linux
servers and provide solutions to a high standard.
All applicants must be able to perform the following :-
Managing Users
Managing Groups
Configuring disks and file systems
Disk partitioning and physical device nomenclature
Mounting file systems
File system labels
Networking: Key Utilities and Files
Interfaces configuration and monitoring
Network Routing
Monitoring live network connections
Any certification would be a major advantage.

All applicants will be contacted if deemed suitable.

Please forward your resume to Nathan Holt :- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
references will be required to process your application - this is essential.
All resume's sent to Nathan Holt for this position will be read and
considered of other positions if unsuccessful.   

LOCATION: Sydney CBD
DURATION: 3 months Rolling
RATE: Excellent
AGENCY: GAP Consulting Group 
WWW: http://www.gapcg.com.au
CONTACT: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EMAIL: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PHONE: 
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Re: [SLUG] Real lamo question about scripts

[Brett Fenton]

just include `date -I` as part of the file creation routine

ie something like:

tar cfz file.`date -I`.tgz /home

regards
brett
Kevin Saenz wrote:
Hi all,

I have a bash script where I create a tar.gz file I would 
grab current date and add it to the file name. Could anyone
please advise where I could look so I can develop my script
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Re: [SLUG] ide cd-writer

[Brett Fenton]

I'm sure there are a couple of different ways to handle this.

I did it through recompiling the kernel with:

no support for IDE CD devices
support for SCSI CD
support for SSCI gerneric devices
support for IDE-SCSI emulation
worked on reboot, fstab just needed to be modified to /dev/scd0 > /cdrom

Regards
Brett
Ken Caldwell wrote:


Shaun Oliver wrote:

hi all, I have here a reco mp70-40a 4x ide cd-writer.
I'm attempting to run it on debian woody.
how does one set up scsi emulation for this device?
There is a HOWTO on this.



any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
btw. how should I enter in the information in /etc/fstab?
Also, you may need to do a kernel upgrade.

I recently asked this question and Ken Caldwell posted what he did to
get it working under Debian Woody.
I really should have posted to the list anyway.  This is what I wrote:





8<---

I do not have the ide-cd.o module on my system anywhere.
I was wondering where it comes from (source).
The problem is I am trying to get a IDE CD-burner working on the Debian
system and without this module, I can not access the other CD drive.
Usual stuff, which I have done before, but this time, that module is
missing.
Hi Terry,

I rebuilt my "Woody" box this morning.  You are right the default kernel
2.4.18bf does not support a CD burner.  I think you may be wrong about
the reason though.
What I did was to run modconf and install the "sg" module. (you need
both the "sg" and "ide-scsi" modules but the "ide-scsi" module was
listed as having already been installed.  I then cd to the /dev
directory and rm cdrom followed by ln -s scd0 cdrom
This was insufficient to get cdrecord working so I did
aptitude install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 and rebooted using that
kernel.  I am burning a CD using the box (not this box) as I type.
I will be out for an hour or so but will be home later this afternoon or
this evening. Feel free to 'phone if you have a problem.
cheers,

Ken


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Re: [SLUG] Recommended .com.au registrar

[Brett Fenton]

There are provisions in place to deal with this type of situation.

auDA who is the .au regulatory body will become the acting registrar for 
the domain in the interim period between company X going belly up and 
the registrant selecting a new registrar.

A very similar thing occurred at the time of deregulation of the space. 
auDA became the registrar of record for all .net.au domains (about 
10,000 or so), registrants had to then transfer the domain to a 
registrar in order to be able to manage contact details, delegation and 
the like.

Brett Fenton

Matthew Palmer wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 09:24:26PM +, Voytek Eymont wrote:

** Reply to note from David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:54:43 +1000 (EST)


excuse my ignorance, but. 
  
What happens if your registrar company (whoever they are) go belly-up? 
I'm sure that all IT companies are run by reputable businessmen with 
incredible acumen and skill, but you never know, do you?
it's my understanding that even if your regisrar goes belly up, the names
will be registered for the full 2 years, regardless, 


Although, since your domain information is managed through your registrar,
and not the registry, that if you want to change your details you have to
switch to a new registrar before you can do anything like that (such as
change contact details, DNS servers, etc).
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Re: [SLUG] A question of deletion.

[Brett Fenton]

use shred or wipe to kill the files rather than say rm.

there are many file recovery tools out there they just depend on the fs 
being used. eg e2undel for ext2

brett

Bill Bennett wrote:
In the old days, MS deleted a file by clipping the leading
letter and substituting a token that stood for "deleted".
You can't undelete a file in Linux. Is this because the file
has been shredded? I ask not because I want to undelete, but
because I have some sensitive data files that I have deleted
and *don't* want resurrected at any later date.
Regards,

Bill Bennett.

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Re: [SLUG] Benefits of source distro (Gentoo) somewhat elusive :-)

[Brett Fenton]

This is an interesting POV. We currently have about 40 Linux boxes in 
high load production environments, and racking my brian I can't think of 
a scenario where a 0.1% increase in performance (for performance alone 
not considering interoperability or security for example) would be worth 
 more than a very quick update.

Perhaps you could give us some examples in the real world?

Brett

DE LUCA Ben wrote:

If you need to handle more load, throw another cpu, more ram or another box
at the problem.


Some times this is not possible, that even a 0.1% increase in
performance is worth it. 


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Re: [SLUG] aunic whois 24 hours blacklist on my web server

[Brett Fenton]

I think the query limit is 20/hr from any single IP address, it is to 
prevent mining of the whois db.

Brett

Voytek Eymont wrote:
I just tried to run a whois on a com.au domain, and, what I got was:

---
[-]whois aname.com.au
BLACKLISTED: You have exceeded the query limit for your IP address and have been
 blacklisted. This restriction will be removed in 24 hours.
%%% End of referred query result

---

it 's only on 'com.au' domains I get that, other whois servers reply OK

this whois was executed from my web/mail/dns server, there are no shell users (apart
from me, infequently). today was 1st time in days if not weeks that I executed whois
I guess it's implying there is some recurrent whois queries running from a web user ??

perplexed.

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Re: [SLUG] scp syntax

[Brett Fenton]

you need sshd on the host not the client.

syntax is:

scp file [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

brett

Voytek Eymont wrote:
do I need sshd on my pc to use scp ..?

I'm trying to copy some files with scp;

I have installed ssh CLIENT stuff only on my OS/2 pc.
I did NOT install or configured the sshd stuff 

I can ssh no probs to the linux box, specify user, it just works

BUT, what do I need to scp...?

scp says it wants:

0[roman][F:\work\linux]scp
usage: scp [-pqrvBC1246] [-F config] [-S program] [-P port]
   [-c cipher] [-i identity] [-l limit] [-o option]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:]file1 [...] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:]file2
1[roman][F:\work\linux\temp]scp koala.sbt.net.au: /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf

RSA key fingerprint is .
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? 
yes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:

1[roman][F:\work\linux\temp]

it exist with error level 1, and, nothing copied

what do I need ...?





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Re: [SLUG] stripping CtrlM: CRLF vs LF vs CR dillema

[Brett Fenton]

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 08:54, Angus Lees wrote:

> vi: :%s/.$//
>  - which is a cop-out, since I can never remember how to put a literal
>\r in

:%s;\r;;g

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Re: [SLUG] stripping CtrlM: CRLF vs LF vs CR dillema

[Brett Fenton]

tr -d '[\200-\377]' outfile

-d deletes

\200-\377 is all non-ascii characters

 is the http.conf you have
outfile is the stream output

brett

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 07:47, Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I just edited httpd.conf on a non-*nix machine, and, now have have lots of
> CtrlMs in the file:
> 
> I uploaded the file back to linux machine, and, it seems OK, it looks OK in
> an editor, though, mc shows the CtrlM
> 
> I know there is the issue of CR/LF vs LF vs CR DOS/*nix/Mac, BUT will it
> cause real problems ?
> 
> - what can I use to strip the CR ?
> - will it cause any prbs if I was to leave the CR in the httpd.conf ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Voytek Eymont
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Re: [SLUG] can't write superblock when unmounting SMB share

[Brett Fenton]

umount -l ?

On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 20:48, Douglas Stalker wrote:
> RedHat 9.0, SAMBA 3.0.0beta3
> 
> I'm having problems unmounting a remote SMB share, and I'd like to get
> it unmounted without resorting to rebooting the linux system.  The
> problem I get when trying to unmount it:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] pristic01]# umount share_images
> umount: share_images: can't write superblock
> 
> I also can;t go into the directory:
> bash: cd: share_images: Input/output error
> 
> 
> Does anyone know any tricks to forcefully unmount the directory?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Doug Stalker
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Filesystems

[Brett Fenton]

When I click on the link it auto downloads the pdf  it works for me.

Brett

Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:45, Brett Fenton wrote:

http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf

I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, 
though has dated very slightly.


It's also not there.

Cheers,
Bret

Brett

Jeff Waugh wrote:



On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:


But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-)
C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know!


:-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list:

Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong,
whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes
internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a
translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It
doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling
filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just
the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues
in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have.
Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I
do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees.
XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is
especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which
is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales
incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs
(even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of
SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition
type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most
demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully
supported in Linux).
On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk
compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some
cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can
upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of
improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch
which improves directory indexing performance. Because "basically everyone"
uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and
most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux.
- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Filesystems

[Brett Fenton]

http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf

I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, 
though has dated very slightly.

Brett

Jeff Waugh wrote:


On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote:

But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-)
C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know!


:-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list:

Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong,
whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes
internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a
translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It
doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling
filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just
the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues
in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have.
Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I
do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees.
XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is
especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which
is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales
incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs
(even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of
SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition
type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most
demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully
supported in Linux).
On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk
compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some
cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can
upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of
improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch
which improves directory indexing performance. Because "basically everyone"
uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and
most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux.
- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Quiet keyboards

[Brett Fenton]

I've got a logitech cordless which is relatively quiet and the cordless 
is good if you have a desk full of crap like me.

Brett

Andrew Monkhouse wrote:
Not quite Linux I know, but 

SWMBO is complaining about the noise I am making while typing. I do have 
a noisy keyboard, and I type fast, which makes for a lot of fast loud 
clicks, which gets her heart racing.

So I am looking for a very quiet keyboard. Must be compatible with Linux 
(cannot imagine any problems with that though).

Anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?

[Brett Fenton]

depending on your boot loader you need to specify where the kernel is.

in lilo this is /etc/lilo.conf then re-run /sbin/lilo

in grub you can either define in /boot/grub/menu.lst or just pass the
kernel at the grub> boot prompt.

brett

On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 05:02, Voytek Eymont wrote:
> ** Reply to note from Mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:41:58 +1000
> 
> 
> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: 
> > > what do I now need to reload the (new) kernel...? 
> > > reboor or what else ? 
> >
> > Reboot.
> 
> is there any 'special' way to reboot to specify new kernel...?
> 
> I rebooted, but, RHN keeps telling me to 'update the kernel'
> 
> RHN says i have:
> 
> Kernel:   2.4.20-18.7
> Registered:   2003-07-13 01:57:18 (GMT +10)
> Checked In:   2003-07-28 18:02:36 (GMT +10)
> Last Booted:  2003-07-28 11:59:53 (GMT +10)
> 
> machine says it has:
> 
> uname -a
> Linux 2.4.20-18.7 #1 Thu May 29 08:32:50 EDT 2003 i686 unknown
> 
> 
> looking in the /boot I have
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls
> boot.b  lost+found   System.map-2.4.20-18.7
> chain.b message  vmlinux-2.4.18-5
> config-2.4.18-5 module-info  vmlinux-2.4.20-18.7
> config-2.4.20-18.7  module-info-2.4.18-5 vmlinuz
> grubmodule-info-2.4.20-18.7  vmlinuz-2.4.18-5
> initrd-2.4.18-5.img os2_d.b  vmlinuz-2.4.20-18.7
> initrd-2.4.20-18.7.img  System.map
> kernel.hSystem.map-2.4.18-5
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]#
> 
> anyhow, I've told RHN to update the kernel again
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Disk Access Speed

[Brett Fenton]

I've got 2.4.21 and the IDE/DMA seems to be fine.

Brett

Matthew Palmer wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:34:10AM +1000, Lyle Chapman wrote:

Sorry one more question to annoy everybody with, I have installed a new 
80gb seagate drive and the problem is when I copy something to or from 
it I am getting a woeful 3 mb/sec transfer speed.


Are you running it under 2.4.21?  I've had really slow speeds on HDD access
under 2.4.21, and I'm told it's because something got broken in IDE DMA in
that kernel version.
Luckily the machine I'm running it on is only my firewall, so HDD speed
isn't important.
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Re: [SLUG] Disk Access Speed

[Brett Fenton]

I haven't really tuned anything for this. The newer 2.4 kernels mostly 
optimize the disk paramaters. Presently I've got a 120GB WD disk in the 
box. hdparm revels:

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.15 seconds =853.33 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  1.42 seconds = 45.07 MB/sec
Which is okay for what I use the disk with. I remeber a while back 
playing with hdparm and getting the reads up around 60MB/s from memory.

I think you'll need to look in the IDE/ATAPI section of the kernel 
config there is options there *from memory* for use DMA by default and 
another option that escapes me for optimized use of DMA.

Brett

Lyle Chapman wrote:
Sorry one more question to annoy everybody with, I have installed a new 
80gb seagate drive and the problem is when I copy something to or from 
it I am getting a woeful 3 mb/sec transfer speed.

I ran hdparm -Tt /dev/hda and the result was the cache access was 
reporting the right speed but disk access was 3.5meg/sec (pathetic)

I ran hdparm again and turned all the go faster bits on, this increased 
it to 5.5 meg/sec.

Although I did notice that I get a DMA error in hdparm when trying to 
turn DMA on.

Any ideas anyone, thanks?

Lyle Chapman

Pre-Press Supervisor
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Re: [SLUG] SMP kernel?

[Brett Fenton]

Having just been through this ... yes.

Recompile with SMP support and enable the Hyperthreading in BIOS if it's 
not already. The 2.4.21 kernel will be ok. You'll be able to then see 
both processors in /proc/cpuinfo

If you want to see both processors in top, you'll need to recompile the 
package that provides it from source.

Regards
Brett Fenton
Lyle Chapman wrote:
I have a small question - I purchased a new machine on the weekend, P4 
3ghz with HT. Do I need to update my kernel to an SMP one to gain the 
use of hyper-threading?

thanks,

Lyle Chapman

Pre-Press Supervisor
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Re: [SLUG] Hard disk

[Brett Fenton]

wipe or shred will do it. you'd need to stick the disk into another 
machine say as the first device on the secondary ide channel (assuming 
ide). then: wipe /dev/hdc will sanitize the disk. it'll also can your 
mbr, so you'll need to start from scratch afterwars.

lots of hassle for something. the easiest way is to create a boot floppy 
or cd with fdisk on it. fdisk the disk re-create partitions/filesystems 
and everything should be fine. you may also want to recreate the mbr on 
the disk.

brett

Dan Banyard wrote:
Hi,

Recently my linux box was hacked.  I re-installed the OS but I am still
having problems with the machine.  At this stage I am unsure whether these
problems are due a hardware or software issue.
I would like to totally wipe the hard disk and start again just in case the
hackers have left any files.  There seems to be loads of disk wiping
utilities for Windows but I cannot see a way in which I can totally wipe the
disk.  Does anyone know of a utility or command?
Also does anyone know of a hardware checking facility?  I am using SuSE 7.2.
I am getting to the stage when I am considering junking the whole machine,
but this seems a real waste.  Comments from anyone who has been hacked on
what they did?
Thanks in advance.

Dan



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Re: [SLUG] intel i875

[Brett Fenton]

of course after 4 hours of frustration, five minutes after posting, it
all works. recompile 2.5.75 with hyperthreading support and all systems
are go ..

brett

On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 20:19, Brett Fenton wrote:
> has anyone been successful in getting linux to run on a board with an
> i875 chipset? 
> 
> apparently the latest 2.5.x kernels can support it, but i'm not having a
> great deal of luck.
> 
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[SLUG] intel i875

[Brett Fenton]

has anyone been successful in getting linux to run on a board with an
i875 chipset? 

apparently the latest 2.5.x kernels can support it, but i'm not having a
great deal of luck.

brett
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Re: [SLUG] Converting courier-imap Maildir to Cyrus Maildir structure

[Brett Fenton]

no i don't believe so. i use uwimapd (mailfile not maildir) and state is 
maintained when viewing through different clients, in fact different 
clients on different machines.

brett

Adam Hewitt wrote:
I dont know about the Maildirs but I think you will find that it is
actually the client that knows whether the mail has been read or not. I
remember formatting my PC and reinstalling before and when I checked my
mail they were all unread.
Adam.

On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 14:28, Gonzalo Servat wrote:

Hi All,

Does anyone know of a way to convert Courier-IMAP Maildirs (including 
folders) to Cyrus Maildir? Cyrus uses numbers for each message (ie 1. 2. 
3.) so renaming them is trivial, but does Cyrus then simply scan the folder 
for all emails when a user logs in or do you have to run some command to 
re-write the Cyrus index files for that folder?

I guess converting folders and the rest wouldn't be too hard either using 
Perl. I'm trying to switch to Cyrus without causing any disruption (eg, I 
don't want emails to appear as 'new' next time the user logs in)

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Gonzalo




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Re: [SLUG] OS disguise in browser

[Brett Fenton]

I don't know about Mozilla, but this is a config setting in Opera.

Alan L Tyree wrote:

Evidently Mozilla sends out information which permits the server to
identify Linux as the operating system. Is it possible to fool the
server into thinking that some other :-) operating system is being used?
Thanks,
Alan
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Re: [SLUG] MSWebsite2LinuxWebSite.sh utility?

[Brett Fenton]

You can do it in a couple of lines by calling sed or better yet in perl.

Brett

Stuart Guthrie wrote:

 From the ThisMustHaveBeenDoneBeforeDept

I´ve a friend who has a Linux server and they have got a MS web site 
loaded. Problem is that MS doesn´t care about upper/lower case and 
GNU/Linux does. Is there a utility that can uncapitalise image file 
names, directory names and tags or should I write one?

Stu

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Re: [SLUG] Debian and apt

[Brett Fenton]

not strange at all. just do it by http use the list at:

http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

and replace the ftp with http as required


On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 00:16, Ashley Lynn wrote:
> I know this is a strange question for me to ask, but:
> Does anyone have a couple of Debian sourses to go in the apt_sources.conf file
> that do NOT have the words mirror or ftp in them. I need to upgrade a system,
> but the server block any site with these words in them.
> 
> Stay well and happy
> Heracles
> 
> PS No I haven't converted, I just have one machine running Corel Linux which
> need some upgrading.
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Re: [SLUG] IMAP client on Windows

[Brett Fenton]

I have a very similar setup here and in the office, except it's getmail
> sortmail > uw impad

I also have an issue with finding a decent client to handle imap on
windows. I haven't tried some of those you've mentioned, but can give
advice on those you ommitted to name. Outlook is terrible and
continually crashed, Express was notably better but still has it's own
quirks. I find myself more often than not using a terminal emulator and
mutt. 

Brett

On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 07:10, Nik Belajcic wrote:
> On Sunday 01 June 2003 07:52 am, Nik Belajcic wrote:
> 
> I know this is not a Linux question in the strict sense, but I am posting it 
> here because I think that there may be others who have already faced the same 
> problem and might offer suggestions. I have just finished setting up my mail 
> server at home (Fetchmail, Postfix, Procmail, Courier-IMAP) and I am trying 
> to find something that would be more or less a Windows clone of KMail - 
> simple but functional - to use as IMAP Windows client. I have looked at 
> Mahogany, Mulberry, Sylpheed, Pocomail3 (beta) and Mozilla mail, besides the 
> obvious one that will remain nameless, but they all have one problem or 
> another. I just can't believe that there is nothing that fits this 
> description, so any suggestions are most welcome.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nik Belajcic.
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RE: [SLUG] Mkiso off CD not working

[Brett Fenton]

I could be very wrong, but I dont think its that simple.

I usually extract the wav files to a temporary directory then pipe the
output to mkisofs. In fact a while ago a wrote a shell script that did
it all automagically. I'll see if I can retreive it.

Brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Behalf Of Terry Collins
:> Sent: Monday, 7 April 2003 11:29 AM
:> To: Slug List
:> Subject: [SLUG] Mkiso off CD not working
:>
:>
:> I'm trying to take an iso off an audio CD, but no luck. Both Cdrom
:> drives are /dev/hdc ide cd-burner (HP) and /dev/hdd (LG
:> 52x). The system
:> is a debian potato.
:>
:> damselfly:/shared2/cd-images#  dd if=/dev/hdc
:> of=/shared2/cd-images/test.iso bs=8196
:> dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
:> 0+0 records in
:> 0+0 records out
:> damselfly:/shared2/cd-images#
:>
:> My brain is still suffering from Mondayitis and thinks
:> that this is all
:> it did under the RH system. Anyone got any clues?
:>
:>
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RE: [SLUG] Mounting a second hard drive

[Brett Fenton]

The easist way to do it is to:

1. fdisk to make the partitions on the new disk
2. create the filesystem (different tools for diferent fs)
3. mount the disk in some temporary space eg /mnt/home2
4. copy all the data over from /home to /mnt/home2 ensuring that you
maintain file permissions
5. edit fstab so that /home mounts on the new device
6. for safety mv /home /home_old (you can delete if everything is okay
later)

alternatively you can copy all the data across and symlink /home to
the new location.

Brett

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:> Subject: [SLUG] Mounting a second hard drive
:>
:>
:> I want to add a second hard drive to my server, but I need
:> to define it's mount
:> point as /home/.
:>
:> I've worked out how to partition it and set up the file
:> system, but all the advice
:> I've found so far uses rather useless (for me) mount
:> points such as /new/, or
:> /mnt/hd2, or similar.
:>
:> Can I mount the new drive into /home/?
:> What wil it do to the data already in that directory, and
:> its subdirectories?
:>
:> Edwin Humphries,
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RE: [SLUG] Fwd: What are apt-get/dpkg/dselect? [Was: apt-get weirdness lately]

[Brett Fenton]

upgrading the kernel is about 10x easier on debian as on other
distributions (imho).

you simply select your kernel options in config/menuconfig/xconfig

build a .deb package, then install the package with dpgk.

i think you'll be suprised at how easy it is.

brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
:> Stewart
:> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 2:55 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] Fwd: What are apt-get/dpkg/dselect? [Was: apt-get
:> weirdness lately]
:>
:>
:>
:> thanks for the subject change - i should've done that myself. :)
:>
:> and thanks to all who replied, it's a bit clearer now.
:>
:> i was getting a bit mystified because 'apt-get install php' wasn't
:> working for me, where i thought the package name was a
:> sort of wildcard
:> search, it doesn't seem to be. i fired up dselect and
:> scrolled through
:> reams of packages and found the php ones (and a bunch of
:> other stuff i
:> want) and it's downloading now as i type. (looks like i
:> should've said
:> apt-get install php4...)
:>
:> yes indeedy, it's a very neat system.
:>
:> next i get to wrestle with upgrading the kernel because i
:> forgot about
:> that part post-install - but i think i'll ring the debhead
:> guy i know
:> and get him to explain it all again to me rather than
:> bothering the
:> list..
:>
:> ..S.
:>
:> On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 02:13 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote:
:>
:> > 
:> >
:> >> now i'm turning into a debhead, can someone 'please
:> explain' exactly
:> >> what
:> >> the difference between apt-get/dpkg/dselect is and how
:> they work
:> >> together?
:> >> to my mind three commands aint as 'simple elegance' as
:> one rpm one.
:> >> :-)
:> >
:> > Okay:
:> >
:> >   dpkg:
:> >
:> > Basic package management functions such as
:> install/remove/replace,
:> > etc.
:> > At the same level as rpm(1) in the package management stack.
:> > Nothing
:> > much to write home about; at this level, the interesting
:> > differences are
:> > in the actual deb/rpm file formats.
:> >
:> >   apt-get:
:> >
:> > Basic network-aware package installation/management
:> tool which
:> > handles
:> > dependencies and OS-integration. CLI-based, it is
:> basically on the
:> > same
:> > level as urpmi and up2date, but is arguably more
:> useful (lots of
:> > other
:> > features that make it 'nice').
:> >
:> >   dselect:
:> >
:> > An attempt to provide a sensible user interface
:> (ncurses-based) to
:> > package management on apt-based systems.
:> >
:> >   apititude:
:> >
:> > Another attempt to provide a sensible user interface
:> > (ncurses-based) to
:> > package mangement on apt-based systems.
:> >
:> > There are lots of other packages that provide what dselect and
:> > aptitude are
:> > designed to, such as synaptic, aptivate, etc., etc...
:> But I don't think
:> > anyone has managed to find the right combination of
:> simplicity and
:> > usability
:> > to steal me away from apt-get. Sad, but true.
:> >
:> > - Jeff
:> >
:> > --
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:> >   far as films go." - Cody Russell
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RE: [SLUG] apt-get weirdness lately

[Brett Fenton]

They are way more elegant.

dpkg is what it's all built off. If you get the .deb file you can use
dpkg -i  just like you would on an rpm based system.

apt is the obtaining of the packages from either a local source say
your installation cd's or a remote source like ftp.

apt is cutting out a step. in the simplest case with an rpm you might
visit rpmfind.net for example, locate your package, download and then
install. with apt it will find the package for you and then use dpkg
to install it, so you don't need to bother with the searching and
download part. Where apt really shines is when it's less simple and
there are a number of dependencies for the package you want. In an RPM
based system you may find them each individually, download, and
install. With apt it figures it all out for you, grabs the packages it
needs and installs them all to meet the dependencies.

Dselect is just a graphical apt. It loads the list of packages
available in the source you define, you select the ones you want and
it then uses apt to get them and dpkg to install them, solving any
dependicies along the way.

The above is a very simplstic view they are loads of other neat things
like apt-cache, graphical package managers (storm) etc etc.

Brett

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:> Stewart
:> Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2003 1:45 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] apt-get weirdness lately
:>
:>
:>
:> On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 09:23 AM,
:> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:> > Having said that, Mandrake's "urpmi" is a big leap in the right
:> > direction, but still lacks the simple elegance of
:> apt-get/dpkg/dselect
:> > in both operation and configuration.
:>
:> now i'm turning into a debhead, can someone 'please
:> explain' exactly
:> what the difference between apt-get/dpkg/dselect is and
:> how they work
:> together? to my mind three commands aint as 'simple
:> elegance' as one
:> rpm one. :-)
:>
:> but other than that i'm pretty impressed with how my woody is
:> installing.
:>
:> ..S.
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RE: [SLUG] depressed debian guy

[Brett Fenton]

apt-cache search 'xfree' will give a lot of output .. in there will be
the correct package name ie 'xserver-xfree86'

you can either dpkg -l this if you think you may have it installed, or
apt-get it:

dpkg -l xserver-xfree86
apt-get install xserver-xfree86

brett

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:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] depressed debian guy
:>
:>
:> Hi all,
:>
:> bret wrote
:> The command should be dpkg -l  
:>
:> What is the package list, where would it live and would it be
:> downloaded via apt-get?
:>
:> Regards
:>
:> Mick
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RE: [SLUG] THE DEPRESSED DEBIAN GUY ....

[Brett Fenton]

Because after the pipe it's trying to execute the command.

The command should be dpkg -l  

Brett

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:> Mick Boda
:> Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 5:57 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] THE DEPRESSED DEBIAN GUY 
:> 
:> 
:> Hi All,
:> 
:> Not realy depressed, a little frustrated, but mainly  with my 
:> inAPTitude with Debian ...  Still, I must admit, amid the 
:> frustration 
:> theres been some quality time refreshing my command-line 
:> stuff (which I 
:> won't let lapse again, even when I get my GUI happening) and I'm 
:> enjoying the learning experience.
:> 
:> dpkg -|xserver xfree86 returns the following error
:> 
:> xserver xfree86 command not found.
:> 
:> I'm still running 4.1 (according to /var/log/XFree86.0.log)
:> 
:> There's no listing regarding any Xfree packages in 
:> ?var/cache/apt/archives
:> 
:> Thanks all
:> 
:> Mick
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RE: [SLUG] Debian - listing mirror.aarnet.edu.au in apt-get list

[Brett Fenton]

deb ftp://ftp.mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable main contrib
non-free

just substitute unstable for testing/stable ...

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:> Subject: [SLUG] Debian - listing mirror.aarnet.edu.au in
:> apt-get list
:>
:>
:> Can someone send me the lines for listing
:> mirror.aarnet.edu.au and
:> ftp.progsoc.uts.edu.au
:>
:> in their sources.list.
:> I'm only interested in stable stuff and source(kernel recompile).
:>
:> Apt-cache search returns a pile of complaints about my lines.
:>
:> TIA
:>
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RE: [SLUG] Steps to install printing (lprng) on new debian system

[Brett Fenton]

I don't know what your requirements are but have you considered cups?

The packages you'll want are cupsys and foomatic-db there will be some
dependencies that apt will solve. Configure via QT-Cups or the web
interface.

For lpr you'll want lprng then I find printtool useful to configure
(if you have a GUI)

Brett

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:> Subject: [SLUG] Steps to install printing (lprng) on new
:> debian system
:>
:>
:> I tried searching the doco, but I can not find anything on steps to
:> install printing on a new debian system.
:>
:> If it is just a matter of packages to install, which ones?
:> So far I've
:> chased lprng, lprngtools, lprfax, printop, ifhp and hpoj,
:> but now where
:> have a I managed to create a /etc/printcap.
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RE: [SLUG] Avoiding debian dependancies

[Brett Fenton]

get the deb for it.

dpkg -i --ignore-depends= package.deb

where  in this instance would be the package you want to
ignore xfree86-common for example.

brett

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:> Ben Leslie
:> Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 2:57 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] Avoiding debian dependancies
:>
:>
:> Hi all,
:>
:> I just tried to apt-get install slapd (OpenLDAP server) on a debian
:> production server. Debian then wants to install an xfree86-common,
:> which I obviously don't want on a server.
:>
:> (slapd depends on libiodbc2 depends on xlibs. xfree86-common).
:>
:> Now, I know the way I'll be using slapd doesn't *really* depend on
:> libiodbc2. Is there a simple way to tell apt-get this?
:>
:> (I guess I could get the source and change the
:> dependencies manually
:> but that sounds really icky.)
:>
:> Cheers,
:>
:> Benno
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RE: [SLUG] Removing users from samba.

[Brett Fenton]

smbpasswd -d > disables the user
smbpasswd -x > deletes the user

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:> Subject: [SLUG] Removing users from samba.
:> 
:> 
:> G'day all...
:> 
:> Just a quick question.
:> 
:> How do you remove users from Samba?
:> 
:> Thanks.
:> 
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RE: [SLUG] XP dual boot debacle

[Brett Fenton]

What version of Windows was it?

I've recently done a couple of laptops with dual boot Debian and Win2K
without any problems, if it's XP maybe it is different? I seem to
recall that in the Win2K installer, it asks you what partition you
want the OS on and allows you to create/format/reformat only that
partition.

You would also seem to be doing the install back to front. It should
be Windows first, then Linux. I use Lilo which auto-detected Windows
during the config and gives me a nice little boot screen to select the
OS to boot. Grub does it also but I've never used it on a dual boot.

Hope this helps.

Brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Danny Yee
:> Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 8:47 AM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] XP dual boot debacle
:>
:>
:> My girlfriend recently bought a computer, a Compaq Presario 6000,
:> and the first thing I tried to do was set it up to dual boot Linux.
:> (Though she didn't previously have a computer, she's a
:> programmer who
:> uses AIX at work, and was quite excited by the prospect of
:> getting C,
:> perl, python, etc. development tools.)
:>
:> I did a RedHat 8.0 install, repartitioning the 80gig hard drive,
:> leaving 50gig for Windows and using the rest for Linux.  There were
:> some problems -- the modem wasn't detected and I fear it's
:> some kind
:> of evil WinModem -- but I got everything basically working.
:>
:> When I went to reinstall Windows, however, I found that
:> the restore CD
:> insisted on reformatting the entire hard drive!  Aaarrrgh.
:>  Is there
:> any way around this?  (As far as I can tell, parted and FIPS won't
:> resize NTFS partitions -- is there some other way of doing that?)
:> And is it worth complaining to Compaq (or the ACCC) about this?
:>
:> Danny.
:>   
:>   http://dannyreviews.com/ - over six hundred book reviews
:>   http://danny.oz.au/ - free speech, free software, travel
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RE: [SLUG] Still RedHat with KVM

[Brett Fenton]

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Terry Collins
:> Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2002 10:03 AM
:> To: Phillipus Gunawan
:> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Still RedHat with KVM
agreed ... mechanical = bad.
however i had a blackbox 4 port kvm which had this same issue. in fact
i think every one of the 4 kvm's i've ever owned has experienced it,
so spending a chunk of money on a blackbox solution (while they are
nice switches and have good resolution) won't necessarily help your
problem.

brett

:> Cheap means a mechanical switch, which are basically
:> problematic as you
:> really unplugging everything.
:>
:> Microgram (http://www.mgram.com.au) has some nice
:> electronic switches.
:> I've had one for about 8 years. If you are rich, try Blackbox.
:>
:>
:> You could also try the Slug archives. I'm sure this has
:> been discussed
:> before.
:>
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RE: [SLUG] INET

[Brett Fenton]

it may not in and of it's own allow it. for example if you have
iptables setup to drop ssh packets having an entry in hosts.allow is
pretty useless. however it will stop (hosts.deny) ssh connections on
its own from my experience which is admittedly light, there may be
ways around it but i found trying to connect through a denied host
just saw the connection break immediately. ymmv.

brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Kevin Saenz
:> Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2002 7:52 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] INET
:>
:>
:> is your e-smith server a firewall. how is e-smith configured?
:> does it have 2 NICs ie: one for the LAN connection and one for
:> internet?
:>
:> my 5c worth ssh is usually a service that runs
:> independently to inetd.
:> I don't thing host.allow or host.deny will stop or allow access
:> using ssh, because ssh uses both tcp and udp.
:>
:>
:> > Hi all,
:> >
:> > Hope you've had a great Christmas
:> >
:> > I've been messing around trying to ssh into my e-smith
:> server so that I can
:> > copy the chat scripts before upgrading the server to
:> Mandrake or Redhat (yes,
:> > I'm still at, tenacity rather than brilliance ).
:> >
:> > I went to edit my hosts.allow file and found a refernce
:> to INET services ...
:> > there is no INET manpage nor any reference to it my
:> Complete Linux Guide
:> > (which admittedly is for 7.0, not redhat 7.3).
:> >
:> > Can anyone shed some light on this?
:> >
:> > Regards
:> >
:> > Mick
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RE: [SLUG] Still RedHat with KVM

[Brett Fenton]

ctrl-alt-backspace will kill the x session.

brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Phillipus Gunawan
:> Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2002 4:13 AM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] Still RedHat with KVM
:> 
:> 
:> my previous email:
:> 
:> I've got 2 computers using 1 monitor, keyboard and mouse. by using
:> 'switcher' or kvm I just 'click' between the two comps.
:> 
:> anyhow, if I'm in gnome environment, switching between 
:> them makes my
:> mouse (the mouse pointer on the gnome desktop) going wild. I can't
:> control the mouse anymore.
:> 
:> thx for the reply from 2 ppl.
:> 
:> I've tried to restart the x-win, I suppose just logoff to 
:> the terminal
:> and 'startX' again. but even in the terminal, my mouse 
:> going wild...
:> did I miss the commands? how to restart the x-windows properly?
:> anybody knows where I can grab the cheap KVM so that 
:> GNOME's x-win still
:> running smoothly?
:> 
:> 
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RE: [SLUG] SMB auto mount

[Brett Fenton]

you've got to specify the type of mount.

the line should look like:

//ipaddress/share /mnt/share smbfs username=xyz,password=123 0 0

if the username doesn't require a password then leave the password bit
out.

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Phillipus Gunawan
:> Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2002 7:11 AM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] SMB auto mount
:>
:>
:> i want to auto mount my windoz file into my linux box.
:> we know the 'smbmount' command, but how to make it
:> automaticly mounted
:> evry time linux booting?
:> on the windoz, there is no password to access it, its
:> freely open for
:> every user with full rights.
:>
:> i've put these line in '/etc/fstab'
:> //windz/data /mnt/data guest 0 0
:>
:> it giving me error of ERRDOS, ERRnoaccess.
:> any1 have a clue?
:>
:> thx.
:>
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RE: [SLUG] RedHat with KVM

[Brett Fenton]

i used to have this problem on a blackbox kvm and found the only way
to solve it was to restart x. i then got a used enteprise apex kvm
that apart from the wonderful feature of keystroke switching has a
reset button that seems to solve the problem without the requirement
of restarting x ymmv.

brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Phillipus Gunawan
:> Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2002 12:52 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] RedHat with KVM
:>
:>
:> I've got 2 computers using 1 monitor, keyboard and mouse. by using
:> 'switcher' or kvm I just 'click' between the two comps.
:>
:> anyhow, if I'm in gnome environment, switching between
:> them makes my
:> mouse (the mouse pointer on the gnome desktop) going wild. I can't
:> control the mouse anymore.
:>
:> is there any folks having this problem? is there any 'cheap' which
:> reliable enough to handle it?
:>
:> thanks,
:>
:>
:> Phillip.
:>
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RE: [SLUG] re-partition

[Brett Fenton]

you can copy all the contents of /var to /usr and then symlink it

brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Simon Bryan
:> Sent: Monday, 16 December 2002 1:47 PM
:> To: Slug
:> Subject: [SLUG] re-partition
:> 
:> 
:> HI all
:> I am constantly having trouble with the /var partition on 
:> a rh7.2 server. It
:> runs Dans Gaurdian and Squid. The following is the output 
:> from df -h
:> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
:> /dev/hda6 372M  106M  247M  31% /
:> /dev/hda1  45M  5.9M   37M  14% /boot
:> /dev/hda3 9.4G  227M  8.6G   3% /home
:> none  219M 0  219M   0% /dev/shm
:> /dev/hda2  26G  6.6G   17G  27% /usr
:> /dev/hda7 251M  238M  664k 100% /var
:> 
:> Question: Is it possible to repartition a live system and 
:> move some of the
:> space on the /usr partition over to /var?
:> If so what utility(ies) could I use?
:> 
:> Cheers,
:> 
:> _
:> Simon Bryan
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RE: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website

[Brett Fenton]

There are a number of issues with this to consider:

1. Do you want the cheapest solution where some parts are DIY?
2. Do you want it all just done for you where $$ isn't necessarilary a
major factor?
3. Do you want just simple HTML and maybe Frontpage support or do you
want support for cgi/php/asp/jsp/db's etc etc?
4. Do you want it hosted locally or isn't that a factor?
5. Do you know what you are doing or will you require reliable
friendly support?
6. Do you want full control over say configuring your mail accounts or
zone files?
7. Is the service required business critical or is say 99% uptime ok?

There are other things but I'd assume this covers off about 95% of
requirements. From my experience in webhosting (running a large
webhosting operation) I'd say most people want a combination of the
above.

The steps I'd suggest are below:

1. Select the domain name you'd like. Do you want a domain in .au
space or do you want a .com, .net or .org domain (or other type).
2. If it's a com/net/org register it yourself through somewhere like
http://www.godaddy.com/ and register directly for about 1/3 the cost
that any local provider will supply at.
3. If you want a .au domain goto http://www.ausregistry.com.au/ there
you'll find a list of local registrars, prices vary wildly, do a
little research. If you want a .au domain you'll need to be eligable
for it and will need to supply these details at the time of
application.
4. Once you have your domain name, select a host based on the
questions above. You'll find some places like GoDaddy (and in fact
NetRegistry) will offer hosting services at time of registration. This
is a factor to consider for those who enjoy billing consolidation etc.

If you've got more questions, I'm happy to answer them.

Regards
Brett Fenton

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Michael Lake
:> Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:05 AM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard Neal
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
:>
:>
:> Richard Neal wrote:
:> > Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical
:> person how do I
:> > put my company one the web.
:> > Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a
:> map who/where
:> > they are what they do and an email link etc.
:> > Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of
:> you have your own
:> > websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions.
:> >
:> > 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a
:> domain name and who
:> > with and how much is it.
:>
:> Get an ISP and get them to arrange getting the domain name
:> for them and
:> delegating it. Then they dont have to worry about anything
:> complicated.
:> Eg for Jills parents that have a small business they just
:> went to an ISP
:> (http://www.triode.net.au and lists of their customers here
:> http://www.triode.net.au/homepage.html) and got a domain
:> (rowlingstock.com.au), and a web site up and running easy.
:> Jill did the
:> web pages for them. (http://www.rowlingstock.com.au)
:> Let the ISP do the technical stuff for them.
:>
:> > 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple
:> web page/domain
:> > name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how
:> much We will
:> > also need a dial up so they can pickup their email.
:> > Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big.
:>
:> When we were helping Jills parents get a site up we spoke
:> to the person
:> who runs triode on the phone and they were easy to deal
:> with so we later
:> went with triode for our own dialup and web site hosting
:> although we had
:> our own domain name that we arranged ourselves. (Triode
:> run on RedHat
:> Linux and its a small ISP. Support the little-uns before
:> they get bought
:> out :-)
:>
:> Mike
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RE: [SLUG] Num lock key on startup

[Brett Fenton]

I think you'll find it's a little distro dependent.

In RH you can edit /etc/sysconfig/keyboard

You can also edit .bashrc for individual login preferences

case `tty` in
/dev/tty[0-9]) setleds -D +num -caps
;;
esac

Should work, at least it does on my Debian desktop.

Brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Carl Osterly
:> Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 12:06 PM
:> To: SLUG
:> Subject: [SLUG] Num lock key on startup
:> 
:> 
:> OK, this is probably a really dumb question
:> but I've tried searching under Google Linux
:> without much success.
:> 
:> I notice that under Red Hat 8.0 the num lock
:> key is not turned on by default. It is in
:> my BIOS, but it turns off after Red Hat 8.0
:> finishes booting.
:> 
:> Is there a configuration file for X or
:> in the rc.d startup scripts that can
:> re-enable the num lock key?
:> 
:> Any comments or suggestions would be greatly
:> appreciated.
:> 
:> Regards,
:> 
:> Carl
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RE: [SLUG] html-php editor

[Brett Fenton]

code commander is good, i think that these days screem also may handle
php.

brett

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:> Robert Maurency
:> Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 9:56 AM
:> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
:> Subject: [SLUG] html-php editor
:>
:>
:> Hi Sluggers
:>
:> Does anyone know of a good editor for html/php?
:> I am used to working with Homesite on Windows (for html,
:> asp, php, js etc),
:> but I'm developing more and more on my Linux laptop installation.
:>
:> I know there are plenty of text editors around, but I'm
:> after one with the
:> pretty (and essential if you do as many typos as I do!)
:> colour coding.
:>
:> Any suggestions? Much appreciated.
:>
:> Robert Maurency
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RE: [SLUG] Help with Installing Red Hat 7.3

[Brett Fenton]

He's really not requiring much on the box, an MTA and MySQL. For the
use of the machine this may be a genuine requirement as an example we
run a ticketing system called WebRT to manage inbound support queries
and the like. The requirements for WebRT are an MTA (we use Exim) and
either MySQL or PostgreSQL, it's not an unusual combination but again
it would depend on the requirement. The other requirements of
networking and security are core to virtually any box thats part of a
LAN or WAN.

If all else fails I know people who'll set this up in a few hours at a
cost of around $500. It's not especially difficult I'm sure someone on
the list here could do it for substantially less.

Brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> hy speed
:> Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 10:17 AM
:> To: Rod; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help with Installing Red Hat 7.3

:> > I don't know if I need to supply any more info at this
:> stage, but if I do,
:> > please let me know. I do know the server needs a mail
:> server, MYSQL,
:> > networked and strong security, but as I said, I am no
:> expert on this which
:> > is why I need help asap.
:>
:> do u really need to have everything on one box?? i m no
:> expert myself but
:> wouldn't it be better to split up the required
:> functionalities over several
:> boxes??
:>
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RE: USB storage (Was: [SLUG] newbie needs some help please..:-))

[Brett Fenton]

Quite true Greg, I'm just a fan of monolithic kernels for stuff that I
use heavily with module support for light or occassional use.

Regardless of whether the items I specified need to be compiled into
the kernel or have modules inserted they need to be present before the
device can be used.

With regards to the FS type, it depends on the device. For example I
have a MP3 player/128MB USB storage device. Thus far the MP3 function
will only work with the device using a DOS FS. It depends on the
requirements but I'd also suggest DOS is better suited if you're going
to use the device on both Windows and Linux machines. If Linux only,
and the device is storage only sure use whatever you like.

Brett Fenton

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:> Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 11:12 PM
:> To: Brett Fenton; Brett Fenton; Peter Hardy
:> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: RE: USB storage (Was: [SLUG] newbie needs some help
:> please..:-))
:>
:>
:>
:> On 25-Nov-2002 Brett Fenton wrote:
:> > I've got a couple of these and have been without much
:> difficulty been
:> > able to get them up and going under linux (RedHat and Debian).
:> >
:> > I'll note you need the following compiled into the kernel:
:> >
:> > SCSI support
:> > SCSI disk support
:> > SCSI generic support
:> > USB mass storage support
:>
:> not true. These can all be compiled as kernel modules.
:>
:> > The units I have all have by default DOS FAT16
:> filesystems on them so
:> > you'll also need
:> >
:> > DOS FAT support
:>
:> it's far better to run fdisk and repartition as you like
:> (or of you're going to
:> use the whole disk for Linux, just flip the partition type
:> to 83, and mke2fs
:> (or use reiser, or ext3, whichever you might prefer).
:>
:> > As far as I'm aware most standard installs don't by
:> default build a
:> > kernel with these functions, though possibly some do.
:>
:> actually, probably all *do* (in the form of kernel modules).
:>
:> best rgds,
:>
:> -Greg
:>
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:> inexpensive, or
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RE: [SLUG] mke3fs under Mandrake 8.2

[Brett Fenton]

mke2fs then tune fs to add the journaling. ext3 is essentially
journeled ext2.

brett

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:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 2:43 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] mke3fs under Mandrake 8.2
:>
:>
:> G'day All,
:>
:> I can't seem to find mkfs.ext3 at all for Mandrake (not
:> even on rpmfind).
:> Does anyone know the name of the tool for formatting ext3
:> journalling file
:> system under Mandrake?
:>
:> Also, could you please reply to me directly as well as to
:> the list, I'm
:> subscribed to slug at home, and not at work.
:>
:> Thanks.
:>
:> Mike
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RE: [SLUG] An "embronic" Linux user

[Brett Fenton]

Hi 
Rick,
 
The 
burner will be no problem at all. I've got a HP 9100 here on RedHat and it's 
been faultless.
 
I've 
also got a FB630U at home but have never connected it to a Linux machine. I 
don't imagine there'd be too many problems, I'll plug it in and see what happens 
though.
 
Brett

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick DaveySent: 
  Monday, 25 November 2002 5:01 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SLUG] An "embronic" Linux 
  user
    
  Hello SLUG members
   
  Mary from the SLUG Committee has referred me to your web page.
  The Linux Journey is just beginning for me so please excuse my very BASIC 
  question(s).-:)
   
  My question to the SLUG Committee was...
  I am seriously looking at installing LINUX as my 
  operating system. My problem is that I have an 
  HP 9100I lynx burner/writer, and a Canon FB630U scanner.
  I have been told by both HP and Canon that they 
  do not support Linux with drivers for their products, and that there may be 
  "third parties" that do...very helpful
  So what I would appreciate is some information if 
  possible on what to do and where to go...
  My need is for executable drivers and utilities 
  not as raw code as I am not a programmer (in any sense of the 
  word!).
   
  Also I would appreciate some information on Subscribing to 
  SLUG...thanks
   
  Thanks for your help.
   
  Rick Davey
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RE: USB storage (Was: [SLUG] newbie needs some help please..:-))

[Brett Fenton]

I've got a couple of these and have been without much difficulty been
able to get them up and going under linux (RedHat and Debian).

I'll note you need the following compiled into the kernel:

SCSI support
SCSI disk support
SCSI generic support
USB mass storage support

The units I have all have by default DOS FAT16 filesystems on them so
you'll also need

DOS FAT support

As far as I'm aware most standard installs don't by default build a
kernel with these functions, though possibly some do. If you don't
have the above you'll need to build a kernel with it, there are other
obvious ommissions such as USB support needs to be compiled etc.

The mount is something like:

mount -t msdos /dev/sda /mnt/usb_dev

Brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Peter Hardy
:> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 2:10 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: USB storage (Was: [SLUG] newbie needs some help
:> please..:-))
:>
:>
:> One out of three ain't bad. ;-)
:>
:> On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:47:19 +1100 David wrote:
:> >  2. My second question is: I have a USB flash drive. How
:> do I get it
:> >  to be
:> >  read in Linux?  Do I mount it, and how?
:>
:> Mandrake should already have USB support, so:
:>
:> 1. It might be worth checking that your flash drive is supported.
:> Apparently there's quite a few models that won't work. :-(
:> There's a comprehensive Working Devices list at
:> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ and you're looking for Mass Storage
:> devices.
:>
:> 2. Plug it in, and look in your system logs
:> (/var/log/messages, I think)
:> or use a tool like usbview to see if it is recognised.
:>
:> 3. All going well, it should be recognised as a scsi
:> device.  If you
:> don't have any scsi hard drives, then it will be /dev/sda.
:>  Try mounting
:> /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
:>
:> Hope that helps,
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RE: [SLUG] Setting up Debian at a new network location.

[Brett Fenton]

:> righto, now I have
:>
:> /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8),
:> ifdown(8)
:> ..
:> iface eth0 inet static
:>   address a-static-ip-that-I-own
:>   netmask 255.255.254.0
:>
:> I have restarted the networking and rebooted even. I can
:> ping machines
:> on out network but not outside.
:> resolve.conf is empty. I presume I need a DNS lookup
:> somewhere or else
:> apt-setup wont be able to find things.

your problem is not related to resolv.conf if you can't ping IP
addresses outside of your network as these don't require mapping via
nameservers/DNS.

you need a gateway line in the config for the box presumably that
handles your NAT etc quite typically this will be *.*.*.1 but it's
hardly a convention

brett

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RE: [SLUG] Setting up Debian at a new network location.

[Brett Fenton]

by setting up for the network i assume you're just referring to giving
it an allocated ip address (or dchp) informing it of the gateway etc?

just edit (in vi or pico etc) the config file /etc/network/interfaces
give it the ip you want etc etc. below is the configs for a machine of
mine that has a single interface on an internal ip which i'd assume is
what you'll have. the address, netmask, network, broadcast and gateway
are the only items likely to require modification.

if you want apt to use http/ftp sources edit the file
/etc/apt/sources.list run apt-get update and you should be ok. if you
want my sourses.list file let me know and i'll send it to you.

# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian
installation
# (network, broadcast and gateway are optional)
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.20
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.255
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.1

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Michael Lake
:> Sent: Monday, 18 November 2002 9:52 AM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] Setting up Debian at a new network location.
:>
:>
:> Hi all,
:>
:> I have got a basic Debian again on my laptop (PowerBook) via CD's.
:> Now I am at uni and want to setup again so it will pull in other
:> packages via apt-get.
:> apt-setup cant run as it yet cant access the network here
:> as its not
:> setup for this network.
:> So i looked up netenv as that what came up last time - it
:> looks after
:> differing network environments for laptops but it has no
:> man or info
:> page. When I had installed Debina the first time at uni (I
:> wiped it out
:> and started again) it automatically probed and setup the network to
:> access packages via http it used netenv.
:>
:> How do I setup again at a different location ? I Dont want
:> to re install
:> - just setup networking so I can then run apt-setup.
:>
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RE: [SLUG] Location of servers

[Brett Fenton]

theres nothing i'm aware of that will provide that information.

your best bet is /usr/sbin/traceroute with a little detactive work.

you'll see the gateway routers which more often than not will give you
a city location. combine it with some dig queries and or whois queries
on the ip's you should be able to deduce something ballpark.

brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:slug-admin@;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of
:> Alan L Tyree
:> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 10:56 AM
:> To: Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG
:> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Location of servers
:>
:>
:> On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 10:23, Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG wrote:
:> > traceroute www.yahoo.com
:> >
:> > Is this what you meant?
:>
:> This time to the whole list - still getting used to Evolution!
:>
:> Not exactly - I am looking to find the actual physical
:> location of the
:> server. I just ran traceroute and although I am not sure how to
:> completely interpret the output, it doesn't seem to give me that
:> information.
:>
:> >
:> > Stu
:> >
:> > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 10:05, Alan L Tyree wrote:
:> > > Is there some easy way (or even a hard way) to find
:> the location of an
:> > > http server? If it is relevant, I am using Galeon and RH8
:> > >
:> > > Thanks,
:> > > Alan
:> > > --
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RE: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen

[Brett Fenton]

I'm not sure what the problem you've had is, but why not just run ntpd
and let someone else worry about maintaining the correct time??

Regards
Brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:slug-admin@;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of
:> Jonathan Wheelhouse
:> Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2002 11:57 PM
:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: [SLUG] Daylight saving didn't happen
:>
:>
:> Hi
:>
:> The time shown by my computer didn't change to daylight saving last
:> Saturday night.  So I manually set it forward an hour
:> (which has now
:> forwarded UTC in the hardware clock by an hour, I guess).
:>
:> I'm running Debian unstable.  The hardware clock is set to UTC.
:>
:> /etc/timezone contains
:> Australia/Sydney
:>
:> I'm following "16.1 Setting time, time zones and Daylight
:> Saving" of
:> the Debian System Administration manual.  It says that I
:> may have old
:> timezone files; libc6 contains these files.
:>
:> dpkg -l libc6 reveals
:> ii libc6 2.3.1-3 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data
:>
:> I didn't notice any bug(s) relating to daylight saving on a quick
:> perusal of the BTS.
:>
:> zdump -v Australia/Sydney|less reveals
:> Australia/Sydney  Sat Oct 26 16:00:00 2002 UTC = Sun Oct
:> 27 03:00:00 2002 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
:> Australia/Sydney  Sat Mar 29 15:59:59 2003 UTC = Sun Mar
:> 30 02:59:59 2003 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600
:>
:> So, my computer should have changed to daylight saving but didn't.
:>
:> One of the reasons I noticed was that I downloaded and
:> burnt knoppix
:> 3.1 (a Debian based cdrom demo distribution; pretty awesome -> it
:> recognised all of the machines I ran it on including a Toshiba
:> laptop); knoppix set time forward 1 hour.
:>
:> Any ideas?
:>
:> Jonathan
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RE: [SLUG] whois in .au namespace

[Brett Fenton]

either whois.ausregistry.net or whois1.ausregistry.net, will work
fine.

aunic is still going but i'm not sure whether new data is being
synched with it.

brett

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:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:slug-admin@;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of
:> David Fitch
:> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2002 7:53 AM
:> To: slug
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] whois in .au namespace
:>
:>
:> On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 00:25, James Gregory wrote:
:> > On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 00:06, David wrote:
:> > >
:> > > can anyone give me the command to give registration
:> details in the .au
:> > > namespace. The command that used to work seems to no
:> longer do so.
:> >
:> > I use
:> > whois -h whois.aunic.net 
:> >
:> > I was under the impression that that server (aunic.net)
:> was disabled
:> > when the changeover to decentralised domain provisioning
:> happened, but I
:> > could be wrong.
:>
:> yes I thought you use "whois.ausregistry.com" now but
:> regardless, just doing "whois " works for me (it
:> redirects to the right whois server).
:>
:> Dave.
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RE: [SLUG] How to restart networking

[Brett Fenton]

/etc/init.d/network restart

or replace restart with start/stop

also some systems have the script as networking instead of network. i
can't remember what RedHat is.

Regards
Brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:slug-admin@;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of
:> Simon Bryan
:> Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 8:41 AM
:> To: Slug
:> Subject: [SLUG] How to restart networking
:>
:>
:> Hi all,
:> Have had a problem with a server that worked fine on the
:> LAN but was not
:> responding properly on the net, I found the problem
:> eventually ( I had
:> 10.19.x.x in the default gateway rather than 10.192.x.x).
:> The question is
:> how do I restart networking without re-booting the system?
:> I thought it was
:> /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart, which restarted correctly
:> but did not reset
:> the default gateway. I know how to do this in Windows
:> without a re-boot so
:> it must be possible in Linux. Oh, RH7.2.
:>
:> Cheers,
:>
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:> Simon Bryan
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RE: [SLUG] hard drive choices

[Brett Fenton]

I think it's exactly the other way around. High demand, home use
products tend to become commoditized leading to cheaper and cheaper
manufacturing processes as right through the supply chain there is
price sensitivity.

I've got to say that apart from a few IBM's that I salvaged out of a
IDE RAID unit for home use, which eventually failed, and came as no
suprise that my disks at home have generally only been retired due to
size constraints. With SCSI this isn't a problem, IDE you are somewhat
limited (without performance loss) to a single drive per channel. I've
been through 2x40GB (IBM DeskStars) to 2x80GB (Seagate Barracuda
III's) to 2x120GB (Western Digital Caviar). replaced at approximately
12 month intervals on a machine that rarely powers down and has
filesystem integrity checks done every month or so. Typically I find
that at retirement they are in about as good condition as when they
started.

I have found that IDE disks that get very heavy read/write tend to die
much faster than SCSI. As an example the h/w IDE RAID in the office
which used 6 disks in RAID 5 and was getting hit very hard 24 hrs /
day would chew a disk about once a month.

YMMV.

Brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:slug-admin@;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of
:> Tom
:> Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 2:32 PM
:> To: Matthew Hannigan
:> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices
:>
:>
:> well ive got a couple scsi's at home
:> they get switche on and off quite a bit
:> and the drive on the testing machine i have at home goes
:> through a bit of
:> torture as far as usage goes.
:>
:> i agree with the analysis though. IDE get some thrashing
:> as far as usage go.
:> but youd think theyd be able to make a more stable drive
:> seeing that there
:> is alot of demand for them now.
:>
:> especially with a lot of people doing alot of home editing
:> and video at
:> home. they shouldnt pike the home users on good working hardware.
:>
:> its bad manufacturing practise IMHO.
:>
:> tom
:>
:> "Either you think, or else others have to think for you
:> and take power from
:> you, pervert and discipline your natural tastes, civilize
:> and sterilize
:> you."
:> -F. Scott Fitzgerald-
:>
:>
:> - Original Message -
:> From: "Matthew Hannigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:> To: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:> Cc: "Paul L Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Marty Richards"
:> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:17 PM
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices
:>
:>
:> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:41:25PM +1100, Tom wrote:
:> > > i have had an absolute shocker with seagate drives.
:> > > i like their scsi drives but as far as IDE goes, NO WAY.
:> > > as was said in a previous post - IDE reliability is
:> basically a thing of
:> the
:> > > past.
:> >
:> > I had heard that ide drives were pretty much the same
:> > as scsi drives these days, mechanically at least.
:> > Would make manufacturing sense to me.
:> >
:> > Perhaps they do tests on the not quite finished drive
:> > and the ones making the loudest noises get the ide firmware
:> > and the best get the scsi firmware?  Non-destructive testing
:> > will tell you a lot I imagine.
:> >
:> >
:> > I know one thing; your typical scsi drive gets a lot nicer
:> > life that the typical ide one; scsi drives tend to be
:> > constantly (clean) powered in a clean air-conditioned room
:> > and never moved.
:> >
:> > They tend to fail only when being powered on.
:> > I used to maintain a box with tons (>50) of scsi disks and
:> > we use to get one failure almost every time we turned
:> > it on. (every 6 months or so)
:> >
:> > IDE drives, by comparison get turned on and off daily,
:> > and live through cold winters and hot summers and cope
:> > with household dust and sometimes ciggy smoke.  And
:> > get shoved around from desk to desk and sometimes via
:> > someones car boot.
:> >
:> > Poor things.
:> > Of the four IDE drives I've bought in the last few years
:> > none have failed.  I had one SCSI drive which failed to
:> > start up, but that doesn't really count; it was an old
:> > re-conditioned one.
:> >
:> >
:> > Matt
:> >
:> >
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RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable

[Brett Fenton]

The modem connects via an RJ45 plug. You can put this into either the
uplink on a switch (or one of those firewall/switches made for cable
access) directly or into a NIC.

My setup is a RedHey 7.3 gateway. eth0 is for the real world ip, eth1
is the internal network which has below it a couple of machines. I
then just use a startup script on the gateway box to set iptables to
do the nat etc. It's all worked without any dramas for about 6 or so
months. I'll eventually get around to converting the gateway to Debian
like the other Linux machines in the network. I can pass around the
iptables script to those interested though it's not especially elegant
it does the job.

Brett

:> -Original Message-
:> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Simon Bryan
:> Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2002 9:31 AM
:> To: Ken Foskey; slug
:> Subject: RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable
:>
:>
:> So where does the cable modem connect to? I assumed it
:> would be setup on a
:> serial port or does it connect direct to a NIC?
:> I am already running dhcp on the RH server, but the server
:> itself has a
:> fixed address. If OPTUS connects to a NIC am I better off
:> having two in my
:> server (or is that essential), one for OPTUS and the other
:> for the rest of
:> the LAN?
:>
:> > -Original Message-
:> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> > Ken Foskey
:> > Sent: Tuesday, 15 October 2002 11:05 PM
:> > To: slug
:> > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
:> >
:> >
:> > On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 23:00, Simon Bryan wrote:
:> > > Hi all,
:> > > I am seriously considering going to Optus cable. They sya they
:> > will install
:> > > to a local Windows machine which we have, however how
:> hard is it then to
:> > > move the system over to a Linux server (RH7.1)? Is there a 'How
:> > to' anyhwere
:> > > (couldn't find one)?
:> >
:> > It is dead easy.  Set up a network card as dhcp and you
:> are away.  The
:> > 'old' Optus notes said you had to force hostname in dhcp
:> but this is no
:> > longer required.
:> >
:> > Firewall is good though!!!  Find an old pentium and look
:> up ipcop or
:> > equivalent.
:> >
:> > KenF
:> >
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RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable

[Brett Fenton]

I could be wrong but I think that it's based on the MAC of the modem,
not the NIC.

Regards
Brett

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:> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
:> Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG
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:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
:>
:>
:> > > How are they keeping track of user data if the
:> hostname is no longer
:> > > required to obtain a DHCP lease?
:> > >
:> > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the
:> DOCSIS modem...
:> >
:> > The MAC address of the NIC.
:>
:> Does this mean for a $30 investment for an extra NIC you
:> can 2x your
:> bandwidth limit?
:>
:> Maybe they're also tracking info in the cable modem via a query?
:>
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RE: [SLUG] Optus Cable

[Brett Fenton]

I could be wrong but I think that it's based on the MAC of the modem,
not the NIC.

Regards
Brett Fenton

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:> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
:>
:>
:> > > How are they keeping track of user data if the
:> hostname is no longer
:> > > required to obtain a DHCP lease?
:> > >
:> > > Unless they can snarf some sort of data from the
:> DOCSIS modem...
:> >
:> > The MAC address of the NIC.
:>
:> Does this mean for a $30 investment for an extra NIC you
:> can 2x your
:> bandwidth limit?
:>
:> Maybe they're also tracking info in the cable modem via a query?
:>
:> Stu
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RE: [SLUG] WebHosting

[Brett Fenton]

A few notes:

While the mail/hosting stuff is trivial a transactional server isn't.
Getting those argent line(s) direct to the bank, etc etc is a problem as is
either the bank issue software or hardware you need. We have links to both
NAB and St George, the Quest software for St George is quite expensive, the
hardware for the Ingenico systems for St George cost $1+ to setup then
there ongoing charges.

You can get the complete package required through at least a half dozen
providers I'm aware of from the top of my head and all are going to cost
around $100-$150/mo for this. That's still about half what it's going to
cost to co-lo without taking into account the hardware costs required etc.

Brett

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DaZZa
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:53 PM
To: Saurabh Shukla
Cc: SLUG
Subject: Re: [SLUG] WebHosting


On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Saurabh Shukla wrote:

> I am loooking for a service, which can offer me.
> 1) WebHosting(on Linux)
> 2) Mail Server
> 3) AutoResponder
> 4) Java Support
> 5) Credit Card payment gateway.
>
> All in ONE place. Currently we have 1 Server for hosting the website,
another service as
> our mail server, a different service for credit card billing system. I am
looking for
> some place which can offer me all these services.

Build a box yourself to suit, and find someone to co-locate it for you.

It's not that difficult to make all those work on one box.

DaZZa

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RE: [SLUG] Linux Sysadmin wages.

[Brett Fenton]

You're of course completely right, but in consideration for a junior
role, it shows that someone has been set a target, has worked towards
the goal and has been largely self-managed along the way.

Clearly real-world experience is far more valuable and hence my
comments that at 5 years exp, a degree becomes sundry. But I still
hold that in juniorish roles the maturity and problem solving
abilities of graduates is *in general* worth the little extra.

Brett


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
Karl Clements
Sent: Friday, 14 June 2002 8:13 AM
To: Brett Fenton
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux Sysadmin wages.


When you are talking about a degree here what type of degree are you
talking? IT major in what? because i know numerous 3 years in IT
degrees
who wouldn't even know what linux was much less what a sysadmin does.


--
Karl Clements
"Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies"



> It really depends on a number of things. The amount of
responsibility
> involved / management capacity probably being the biggest factor. Do
> you have a uni degree, age etc. Also things like are you the sole
> admin, is it a shared responsibility or sole responsibility etc etc.
>
> We are a complete Linux shop and I'm responsible for most of the
> Technical HR. For pure Sys Admin roles with no support function or
> management responsibility and the like, I'd suggest this is what I
> currently see as ballpark:
>
> 1 year: I'd only hire in a very junior role probably 35K without a
> degree, 40-42K with degree.
> 3 years: No degree ~50-60K, degree 55-70K
> 5 years: Degree becomes largely irrelevant compared to experience.
> 70K-90K.
>
> For candidates in the 5y+ range, I'd be very suprised to see them
take
> roles purely as admins, perhaps by that stage they'd be ready for a
> junior IT Manager role or the like and the remuneration increases
> accordingly with responsibility.
>
> Brett
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf
> Of
> Stuart Guthrie
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2002 10:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SLUG] Linux Sysadmin wages.
>
>
> Wondering if I could get a handle on average wages for a Linux
> Sysadmin.  Of
> course this is a 'how long is a piece of string' type question but
if
> you've
> any idea if would help:
>
> 1 year experience
>
> 3 years experience
>
> 5 years experience.
>
>
> Its for a Total Cost of Ownership vs Microsoft study (see posts last
> week).
>
> BTW Thanks for those who piped up last week. It's definately
helping.
>
>
> Stu
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RE: [SLUG] Linux Sysadmin wages.

[Brett Fenton]

It really depends on a number of things. The amount of responsibility
involved / management capacity probably being the biggest factor. Do
you have a uni degree, age etc. Also things like are you the sole
admin, is it a shared responsibility or sole responsibility etc etc.

We are a complete Linux shop and I'm responsible for most of the
Technical HR. For pure Sys Admin roles with no support function or
management responsibility and the like, I'd suggest this is what I
currently see as ballpark:

1 year: I'd only hire in a very junior role probably 35K without a
degree, 40-42K with degree.
3 years: No degree ~50-60K, degree 55-70K
5 years: Degree becomes largely irrelevant compared to experience.
70K-90K.

For candidates in the 5y+ range, I'd be very suprised to see them take
roles purely as admins, perhaps by that stage they'd be ready for a
junior IT Manager role or the like and the remuneration increases
accordingly with responsibility.

Brett

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
Stuart Guthrie
Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2002 10:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SLUG] Linux Sysadmin wages.


Wondering if I could get a handle on average wages for a Linux
Sysadmin.  Of
course this is a 'how long is a piece of string' type question but if
you've
any idea if would help:

1 year experience

3 years experience

5 years experience.


Its for a Total Cost of Ownership vs Microsoft study (see posts last
week).

BTW Thanks for those who piped up last week. It's definately helping.


Stu

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RE: [SLUG] Can somebody explain this effect?

[Brett Fenton]

by default as you've moved it into ~adam, adam will own the file and
the file will be in group adam.

this is because you've copied it in as user adam. if you'd copied it
in as root it would have maintained file permissions.

brett

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Subject: [SLUG] Can somebody explain this effect?


Box is Debian Potato.

Note the cvs.tar.gz file ( in case it isn't obvious ).

If I'm not mistaken, I've just "taken ownership" of the file from
root.

Am I correct?

Adam

adam@pear:~$ cd /var/cvs
adam@pear:/var/cvs$ ls -l
total 67440
drwxrwxr-x   10 cvs  cvs  4096 Apr 30 13:28 APCOT
drwxrwxr-x3 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 18 13:50 CVSROOT
drwxrwxr-x2 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 12 16:29 DowJones
drwxrwxr-x6 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 11 13:27 FortyTwo
drwxrwxr-x5 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 11 13:27 MARTINTEST
drwxrwxr-x9 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 11 13:27 VoiceXML
-rw-r--r--1 root root 68959080 Apr 30 17:08 cvs.tar.gz
adam@pear:/var/cvs$ mv cvs.tar.gz ~
adam@pear:/var/cvs$ cd ~
adam@pear:~$ ls -l
total 67508
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam 68959080 Apr 30 17:08 cvs.tar.gz
drwxr-sr-x5 adam adam 4096 Apr 20 11:24 cvsroot
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam  582 Feb 21 10:55 index.html
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam11316 Mar 20 16:00 ip
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam11316 Mar 20 16:07 ip2
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam11316 Mar 20 16:18 ip3
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam11316 Mar 20 16:19 ip4
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam 1241 Mar 20 16:20 mail
-rw---1 adam adam 7021 Mar 13 16:03 mbox
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam14601 Mar 20 16:27 now
-rw-r--r--1 adam adam 5694 Mar 20 16:34 person
adam@pear:~$ cd /var/cvs
adam@pear:/var/cvs$ ls -l
total 24
drwxrwxr-x   10 cvs  cvs  4096 Apr 30 13:28 APCOT
drwxrwxr-x3 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 18 13:50 CVSROOT
drwxrwxr-x2 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 12 16:29 DowJones
drwxrwxr-x6 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 11 13:27 FortyTwo
drwxrwxr-x5 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 11 13:27 MARTINTEST
drwxrwxr-x9 cvs  cvs  4096 Mar 11 13:27 VoiceXML
adam@pear:/var/cvs$
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RE: [SLUG] removing linux

[Brett Fenton]

the only problem sometimes encountered is that linux usually writes to the
mbr. so that even after full installation of win, lilo will still be in the
mbr trying to boot a non-existant kernel.

use a dos boot disk then:

c:\>fdisk /mbr

brett

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> Subject: [SLUG] removing linux
>
>
> Hello all,
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> Many moons ago, i have installed Linux Mandrake on my laptop - as an
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> and have forgotten the userid and password.  On top of that, i got rid of
> the manuals and now i need to remove Linux from the laptop and re-format
> the hdd, so that Win98 will fit on it again.
>
> Is it as simple as sticking a DOS disk in fdd and re-formatting the hdd or
> it's more involved then that ?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
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RE: [SLUG] iso images

[Brett Fenton]

cdrecord --scanbus
cdrecord dev=(insert bus here eg 0,0,0) speed=6 /directory/file.iso

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Tuesday, 05 March 2002 11:59 AM
> To: Slug List
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] iso images
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 11:13, Upendra Singh wrote:
> > install RedHat 7.2.  I dont know how to burn the iso image on 
> CD so that it
> > is bootable.  Please tell me any ideas you have.
> 
> The CD images should contain the information required to boot them (as
> long as you BIOS) supports booting from CD.
> 
> If you are using Linux then you would probably be best off installing
> something like xcdroast or if you've got Gnome maybe something like
> gcombust.  The doc included with xcdroast explain all you need to know
> about setting the right permissions etc to use as a normal user.
> 
> If you're using Windoze at the moment then use whatever software came
> with your burner ;-)
> 
> Once burnt they should boot...
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> P.S. The Red Hat installation process is dead easy - great for newbies
> to get started with Linux.
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RE: [SLUG] (fwd) Inquiry

[Brett Fenton]

WordPerfect has been released and withdrawn by Corel for the Linux platform,
thus not requiring the use of Wine. Installation on any Debian based system
is a breeze, Debian, Corel, Progeny etc. Instalation on RedHat or SuSE 
good luck.

Brett

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Andrew Fries
> Sent: Friday, 15 February 2002 02:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] (fwd) Inquiry
>
>
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:42:11 +1100
> Tony Prince wrote:
>
> >I want to install WordPerfect
> > and Star Office in the Linux partition, and for the last couple of
> > months (off and on) have been trying unsuccessfully to do so from a disk
> > that comes with Next Handbooks' "Learning Linux" (which I bought just
> > because it had these two programs on it).
>
> Could it be you're trying to install binary packages meant for
> Intel architecture onto your PowerPC-based system? They are not
> compatible! I really doubt whether ppc versions of WordPerfect
> exist since I believe it required Wine (an Intel-only
> application) libraries to work - correct me if I'm wrong! I
> haven't heard of StarOffice available in PowerPC version either,
> and I used SuSE for PowerPC (7.0) myself...
>
> 
> "All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices
>  by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two..."
>  - Michael Robertson, founder of Lindows
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RE: [SLUG] How to install about 150 rpms?

[Brett Fenton]

It shouldn't be too bad. The app downloads the packages then installs them.
If the install fails as you've noted, you can remove the perl rpm, then
install ximian from local source (/var/cache/redcarpet/packages), including
the ximian perl package. There is an option in redcarpet to select local
packages, just highlight the packages in the gui and install.

brett

> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:49:52 +1100 (EST)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I just had a try at installing the latest Ximian Gnome; about a 250Mb
> > download, via the easy installer.  All seemed to work fine, until it
> > tried to install perl 5.0.6, when it failed because the package was
> > already installed.  That's apparently an insurmountable obstacle - the
> > easy installer doesn't have a way to deal with this problem.

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] burned on a deal

[Brett Fenton]

I've got to admit, auctiontrader looks like all your Christmases have arrived 
at once, but features like if you make a maximum bid greater than the reserve 
regardless of the current state of bidding, that becomes the highest bid, no 
correspondance if reserve is not met etc etc all in my opinion make this site 
a waste of time. YMMV

With regards to your problem it's not offtopic, we all buy from sites like 
this from time to time. Try to source a Xeon Slot 2 board from a distributor 
for example. I'd go the fair trading route. It is buyer beware but the 
merchandise has to be as advertised. Also from memory the final bid on 
auctiontrader isn't final you can reject the bid and the sale if you want 
either by email or by not replying to the confirmation emails they send for 3 
days or something similar.

Brett



On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:37, you wrote:
> I apologise for being largely off-topic: I need either legal or technical
> advice regarding my purchase of UPS unit, and the only connection to SLUG
> is that UPS was meant to power my Linux box :) But you guys know things,
> and besides, it just might be of some use to others... so here's the story:
>
> The unit in question, Opti-UPS PowerES 420ES came from the online auction
> site at . But when it arrived I found it
> sports those three-point straight pin power plugs used in the States.
> Apparently it was not intended for sale in Australia! Oops, that's one
> little detail that got left out of the description on their website...
>
> So now I'm wondering what can I threaten them with to get a refund. I'm
> aware of the general "buyer beware" attitude in these matters, but surely
> there are limits. I don't think it's too much to expect any UPS unit sold
> in Australia will be by default suitable for Australian wiring unless
> stated otherwise! In fact, isn't there some legal rule in this regard?
> Also, this unit has RJ45 jacks for data line surge suppression. Does that
> not mean it must be approved for sale in Australia by some sort of telecom
> standards body, like modems are? And if they are in violation of some
> regulations, who would be interested in hearing this?
>
> Or should I forget about trying to get a refund and just try to live with
> this thing? It does have selectable voltage, but is it possible to get (and
> safely use) american-style power cords to plug in my box and the monitor?
> Then I need to somehow plug the unit into the wall socket, so that's yet
> another kind of power cord. And I don't want to spend a fortune on this
> either. The way I see it, I shouldn't have to do any of this at all; I'm
> basically covering their asses here.
>
> So... what can I do?
>
>
> 
> "All I know is that I'm being sued for unfair business practices
>  by Microsoft. Hello pot? It's kettle on line two..."
>  - Michael Robertson, founder of Lindows
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RE: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

[Brett Fenton]

Not that this really gives much more info but it does summarize the state of
play.

http://icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=508&mode=thread&order=0

auDA want to open tender for the org.au registry. Elz is standing his
ground. Lot's of politics etc etc.

Having said that we don't register org.au's anymore, it's just in the too
hard basket, but delegations have seemed to imporoved of late.

Brett

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> Adam Kennedy
> Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

> Of course, it might have changed since then... Brett, how are
> NR's dealings
> with him of late? Wasn't larry going to offer to run .org.au for free at
> some point?

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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

[Brett Fenton]

http://aunic.net/dd.html

Then just hope Robert Elz is kind to you.

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:37, you wrote:
> Hi Brett,
> Oh dear...
> it's an org.au
> any clues?
> Ben
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