Re: [SLUG] Recycling/Disposing of old PC's - Send to kids in Africa for their schools
Hi David 3 laptops Newtown email if interested cheers Ken On 14/08/12 07:30, David Lyon wrote: If anybody has PC's to throw out, let me know. I can come pick them up. It turns out my friend is looking for such things and will send them to Sierra-Leone in Africa to teach kids about computers. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Android-based smartphones - any drawbacks ?
Some people do care, not all. Some people who cannot write code still care. I have a G1 with Optus. So this is at iphone 1 level of technology. How many of these are still around. memory limited, cannot install many apps so have not explored them much. Apps to SD works till card has problems, reformat, new card, reinstall, x3 then give up. Processor speed limited, updated operating system several times, CM, but stopped as became too slow to work well. Purchased GPS navigation program Syngic works with occasional crashes. Gmail contacts is useful to get contacts in. Medical applications like MIMS were ported to Iphone, so NSW health bought us all a subscription and stopped having paper based books to look up. It is also accessible on www on computers at work if the network is working at its usual snails pace. Most medical things appear on IOS, many never make it to other systems even as a purchase. Heres hoping the increase in android sales may cause some suppliers to offer a group that can purchase what is useful to them, on more than 1 device OS. I have noticed that where previously most doctors had iphones, a significant number have android now, and most are not into software freedom as something that would influence their purchasing decision. This has changed in the last 6 months. Optus network is slow and geographically limited. cheers Ken On 03/02/12 14:20, simran wrote: Hey Jeremy, You don't sound like a troll... just someone who has been around a long time and is used to doing it all themselves. I think people do care... but there is a lot more specialisation now... it's like medicne an ENT specialist doesn't know much about the legs... but because he has specialised, he has furthered the research and solutions in ENT. Same in technology, people are specialists, and not everyone has to re-invent the wheel. There are those that care, and those that care but are specialising in areas where they can't impact the OS level decision... s. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Jeremy Visserjer...@visser.name wrote: On 2/02/12 20:42, Rod Butcher wrote: Are there any things they can't do or can't connect to/interface with, which other proprietary systems can ? Not really, all there are lots of things it can't do that an open system can. Like logging in as root. Or, y'know, compiling the whole OS from source. Sadly, people these days don't care and this post will be ignored. Amazingly enough, not even technical or otherwise FOSS–loving people seem to care. Blah blah pragmatism blah blah works well enough. Nothing about principles. Wow, I sound like RMS. Or a troll–like version. Didn't think that day would come. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Cheap Linux/Windows wireless home networking options ?
I have seen them at Reverse Garbage in Addison Rd Marrickville, where whole computing setups have been discarded including routers, their price is always not much. Ken On 12/10/11 22:17, Heracles wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/10/11 21:29, Rod Butcher wrote: Sounds like my best option is just to use a cheap PCI wireless card as a WAP - can I do that ? - and use the PC as the router. Does this sound right ? My question then is, if serious businesses use expensive standalone programmable devices to provide WAPs, rather than the $100 routers at my local PC shop, how realistic is the setup I will be training on ? I will be configuring the PC as the router, along with security, encryption, iptables etc... how closely do the skills involved relate to those involved in a realword business setup ? thanks Rod Depends upon the situation. It could be a worthwhile exercise to get a cheap second hand CISCO router, as one of my students did, and learn with that. A relatively new one should be quite cheap and will give you skills in their scripting. Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6Vdy4ACgkQybPcBAs9CE8PygCgqp0TLrxxBJYuBROmhj5CP2DO HKYAnRznIS5Gdym34KCNO8X+Qd6SUwLW =h/SR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] IBM thinkpad R30
The IBM Thinkpad R30 has died. Faults;- battery does not charge, but mains operates computer OK. Battery has been replaced without improvement. CMOS battery holder has come off mainboard. Otherwise all works, nothing else broken. Free to anyone who wants parts or thinks they can fix it. I live in Newtown. cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ubuntu 9.04 to 10.04 upgrade
On 30/05/11 13:51, david wrote: I've been putting it off, but now the 9.04 repo has vanished, along with the upgrade-to-new-distribution button in synaptic. Are there any gotchas if I just change my sources list and do a dist-upgrade? This is a complicated desktop which would be a horror to rebuild, so I really would rather know any problems in advance Thanks David. My way of upgrading that gets a machine back to what it was fairly easily, and also gives a recovery point. Used multiple times with good results while some dist upgrades failed, sometimes a contents of chair problem. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-get-list-installed-software-reinstallation-restore.html Hardware and Software failures are part of Life. That is why you need to have a backup. I have already written about backing files and MySQL databases. You need not to backup all installed binaries (mostly software) with following tips. It will not just save your time but both Debian and RHEL distro can update them instantly. In order to reinstall or restore your installed software you need to have a list of all installed software. Task: Backup list of installed software Debian Linux If you are using Debian Linux use dpkg command to list installed software: $ dpkg --get-selections Store list of installed software to a file called /backup/installed-software.log $ dpkg --get-selections /backup/installed-software.log RPM based distributions (RHEL, Fedora Core, Cent OS, Suse Linux etc) Use rpm command to get list of all installed software: $ rpm -qa OR $ rpm -qa /backup/installed-software.log Task: Restore installed software from backup list Now you have a list of installed software. After installing base system you can immediately install all software. Debian Linux Debian Linux makes your life easy. All you have to do is type following two commands: # dpkg --set-selections /backup/installed-software.log Now your list is imported use dselect or other tools to install the package. # dselect Select 'i' for install the software. RPM based distro As far as I know RPM based distro does not offers dpkg kind of facility. But with little shell scripting technquie you can easily install all software: # LIST=$( cat /backup/installed-software.log ) If you are using yum, type the following for loop to install all software: # for s in $LIST; do yum install $s; done Update try out following command (thanks to gt): # yum -y install $(cat /backup/installed-software.log) OR if you are using RHEL (RHN subscriber) : # for s in $LIST; do up2date -i $s; done Alternatively you use following command: # up2date -i $(cat /backup/installed-software.log) If you want to repeat installation of all packages from your computer to another one their is ideal solution to create list of all installed packages on your computer. Open shell and type: sudo dpkg --get-selections installed-programs Fileinstalled-programs will be written inside your Home folder and you can copy this folder. On another computer (computer on which you want to import this list) type: sudo dpkg --set-selections installed-programs sudo dselect This procedure will mark all inside list for download, and then it will start will downloading and installation. Note that you also need to copy file /etc/apt/sources.list. You also need to refresh files database with command sudo apt-get update -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Testing live streaming for tonight's SLUG
Video stream is very choppy. On Optus cable with 5-8 viewers indicated it streams for 5 seconds then cuts out. So a start but could be better. ?where the bottleneck is cheers Ken On 29/04/11 13:18, Tim Ansell wrote: Hello everyone, Tonight we are going to experiment with live streaming SLUG. This is something I have wanted to do for a long time as it means the videos straight after the event rather then 6months later like it is currently. I'll be trialling on ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mithro-s-test-stream from 6:00pm. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mithro-s-test-streamI'm open to better/open solutions but we need something similar to ustream features. We also need something that will give us a video at the end and not require post editing (which is what causes the videos to not be uploaded). Tim -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 10.4 desktop freezes
Replacing drives with smart errors and reinstalling seems to have fixed things, and the machine boots much faster now. Thanks all Ken On 14/02/11 08:15, Jon and Hannah wrote: Hi, Have you: Run a disk check (fsck?) and checked the SMART status of your drives? Run a RAM check - using the ful live CD, you can run that for a few hours and tell you if your RAM is ok. The above two have given me the same problem in the past. The current thing giving me that problem is a rubbish graphics card, which I notice getting to 98degC and has caused the computer to lock up, and the screen to go blank. It replaced another rubbish grphics card which did the same thing, but the screen remained visible, just didn't change. cheers Jon On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:44:17 pm you wrote: I have a problem with an Ubuntu 10.4 desktop. It regularly ends up unresposive, with a blank screen, often after being left alone for a while, a few hours or overnight. But can happen while using machine, where it just stops being able to respond to mouse or keyboard with no recovery. No response to keyboard or mouse. [ctl] [alt] [backspace] has no effect. Only able to recover by hard shutdown. I initially thought it might be firefox so shut that down when I left the machine, it still happened. I removed some backup software that I no longer used incase I had misconfigured it as at times I got a message on booting that /etc was full and had a memory of /etc being the default place for creating some backups. df did not show /etc was full. Still happens. Reinstalled /, (have separate /home partition), still happens. Output of dmesg after a restart contains many repeats of below sequence, as does dmesg command output done at other times. Is this a clue to something? Are their other places that I should be looking? [11017.517434] ata1.00: status: { DRDY DRQ } [11017.517446] ata1: soft resetting link [11017.868242] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 [11017.868268] ata1: EH complete [12817.481237] ata1: drained 32768 bytes to clear DRQ. [12817.516675] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen [12817.516681] ata1.00: failed command: SMART [12817.516689] ata1.00: cmd b0/d1:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in [12817.516690] res 58/00:00:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x2 (HSM violation) [12817.516694] ata1.00: status: { DRDY DRQ } [12817.516705] ata1: soft resetting link [12817.864267] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 [12817.864297] ata1: EH complete [14617.476629] ata1: drained 32768 bytes to clear DRQ. [14617.512669] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen [14617.512676] ata1.00: failed command: SMART [14617.512684] ata1.00: cmd b0/d1:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in [14617.512685] res 58/00:00:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x2 (HSM violation) [14617.512690] ata1.00: status: { DRDY DRQ } [14617.512700] ata1: soft resetting link [14617.860228] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 [14617.860246] ata1: EH complete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu 10.4 desktop freezes
I have a problem with an Ubuntu 10.4 desktop. It regularly ends up unresposive, with a blank screen, often after being left alone for a while, a few hours or overnight. But can happen while using machine, where it just stops being able to respond to mouse or keyboard with no recovery. No response to keyboard or mouse. [ctl] [alt] [backspace] has no effect. Only able to recover by hard shutdown. I initially thought it might be firefox so shut that down when I left the machine, it still happened. I removed some backup software that I no longer used incase I had misconfigured it as at times I got a message on booting that /etc was full and had a memory of /etc being the default place for creating some backups. df did not show /etc was full. Still happens. Reinstalled /, (have separate /home partition), still happens. Output of dmesg after a restart contains many repeats of below sequence, as does dmesg command output done at other times. Is this a clue to something? Are their other places that I should be looking? [11017.517434] ata1.00: status: { DRDY DRQ } [11017.517446] ata1: soft resetting link [11017.868242] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 [11017.868268] ata1: EH complete [12817.481237] ata1: drained 32768 bytes to clear DRQ. [12817.516675] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen [12817.516681] ata1.00: failed command: SMART [12817.516689] ata1.00: cmd b0/d1:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in [12817.516690] res 58/00:00:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x2 (HSM violation) [12817.516694] ata1.00: status: { DRDY DRQ } [12817.516705] ata1: soft resetting link [12817.864267] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 [12817.864297] ata1: EH complete [14617.476629] ata1: drained 32768 bytes to clear DRQ. [14617.512669] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen [14617.512676] ata1.00: failed command: SMART [14617.512684] ata1.00: cmd b0/d1:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in [14617.512685] res 58/00:00:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x2 (HSM violation) [14617.512690] ata1.00: status: { DRDY DRQ } [14617.512700] ata1: soft resetting link [14617.860228] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100 [14617.860246] ata1: EH complete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Oh I hate Shredder
3 panel view with folders, message list and highlighted message. Panel between message list and highlighted message display has small - sign at extreme left which toggles 1 line display or 3-4 line display. Ken On 04/06/10 09:27, Kyle wrote: Really? That's interesting. It's no longer there in my 3.0.4 (on OS X) nor my wife's (Win 7). We are talking about the reading pane aren't we? In the main UI. Whether you're using tabbed reading or not. Kind Regards Kyle On 03/06/10 9:35 PM, Ken Wilson wrote: the (-) sign is there on my 3.0.4 Ken On 03/06/10 17:05, Kyle wrote: The minus sign won't be there if you're using T'Bird 3.x. It's gone. The '-' sign is a relic of T-Bird 2.x. Kind Regards Kyle On 03/06/10 2:05 PM, Peter Rundle wrote: On 31/05/10 17:14, Jake Anderson wrote: [snip] you can select weather to display all or normal headers in view | headers | normal Thank you, that's helped make it bearable. if that's still to much click the little - next to the subject header and it will reduce it to just the subject No little '-' is displayed anywhere on the page that I can see. (Yes there is the issue of whether I'm blind, but I reckon it ain't there). Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Oh I hate Shredder
the (-) sign is there on my 3.0.4 Ken On 03/06/10 17:05, Kyle wrote: The minus sign won't be there if you're using T'Bird 3.x. It's gone. The '-' sign is a relic of T-Bird 2.x. Kind Regards Kyle On 03/06/10 2:05 PM, Peter Rundle wrote: On 31/05/10 17:14, Jake Anderson wrote: [snip] you can select weather to display all or normal headers in view | headers | normal Thank you, that's helped make it bearable. if that's still to much click the little - next to the subject header and it will reduce it to just the subject No little '-' is displayed anywhere on the page that I can see. (Yes there is the issue of whether I'm blind, but I reckon it ain't there). Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Suggestions for a monochrome printer.
I have a HP 1320N laserjet that has a direct USB and a Network printserver that duplexes, ppostscript, Black and white, has worked perfectly except when lightning hit the network, needed a new network/printserver board. It has a niece cubical form factor, no plastic trays hanging out to get in the way or broken. Postscrip. Cartridge world do cartridges for about $140 for 5,000 pages It has misfed paper about 6 times in 4 years at home. Drivers are standard in Ubuntu. It cost ~$1,000. There were cheapies about $350 at the time in the same shop. I got it after seeing one at work work 24/7 with no one to look after it using a rheem of paper per day at least. It was taken away after about 3 years, but I dont know what the problem was when the work one died, or whether it was fixable and returned to service elsewhere. Ken On 23/05/10 20:12, wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote: You're quite right. Computer Choice recently did a survey of colour printers. The one aspect that stood out was the cost of consumables, which, in short order, could easily exceed the initial cost of the printer. Bill Bennett. Jon == Jonjonjer...@optusnet.com.au writes: Jon How much do you value your limbs at? We have a Brother HL-5250DN Jon which we are fairly happy with. The current successor seems to be Jon this: Jon http://www.shopbot.com.au/pp-brother-hl-5340d-price-181171.html Jon which is listed starting at $218. We bought outselves a second-hand Lexmark C510 --- which does colour and duplex, at 30ppm with postscript (it cost around $260 from eBay). It's worth looking for something with native postScript. But also check consumables, and how many pages you're expecting to get through. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SLUG Membership decline -info
treasu...@slug.org.au will get the current treasurer Options, cheque or money order via post, or direct deposit works, you would just need to deposit in SLUG A/C and give it an identifier and send me the details via email or post; date, amount, location, your name and address. I would then wait for the bank statement showing it and when that arrives send off receipt and card. Or you could pay at a meeting. Full year membership is only $25 p.a., or $15 p.a. for for students, unemployed people and healthcare card holders and entitles you to free or ultra low cost entry to all SLUG activities. Voting rights under the SLUG Inc. articles of association can only be pledged by current financial members. Bank details; Commonwealth bank A/C SLUG, Sydney Linux Users Group Incorporated, BSB 062005 A/C 10496399 Mail; SLUG PO Box Q811 QVB, NSW 1230 Cheque made out to:- Sydney Linux Users Group Incorporated. webpage http://slug.org.au/ next meeting http://slug.org.au/ regards Ken exSLUG treasurer Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 2 April 2010 19:16, jon jonjer...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I'm happy to give a talk on Inkscape or OpenOffice. There's a couple of other neat applications I'm happy to discuss too. But it would all be very much at an introductory level. That's the reason I suggested an Applications SIG, to try and bring in people who are just switching over from W*ndows and want to go on doing what they've been doing there. We already have a forum for such discussion: it is called SLUGlets. I'm sure they would be happy to see your talk. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Data Redundancy, RAID5/LVM backup decisions
Daniel Pittman wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@dhanapalan.com writes: 2009/11/8 Kevin Shackleton kev...@reachnet.com.au: Save the environment - buy a NAS. (my mirrored 2-disc NAS averages about 20 W) That's a good suggestion. My reluctance to use a NAS myself stems from the perception of less configurability. Yup. If you want something capable of the flexibility of a real OS your options are very limited. OTOH, do you really *need* that level of flexibility from your storage system? Are they any good and affordable NAS solutions out there that allow a decent level of configurability and permissions-setting? The Linksys NSS[46]000 series are entirely Linux underneath, and fully source-available. I have not actually used the hardware, but we prototyped one ages ago and found it acceptable. Otherwise, the DLINK DNS-[24]32 devices can also run Linux, or... D Link do run linux, but hard to do anything on them, I wanted to do rsync, but it only accepts ftp. Ken OTOH, my preference would be to purchase external bulk storage in some sort of NAS that did NFS[1], or perhaps that offered eSATA, and run it through the central server *if* I needed a fancy set of permissions. Daniel Footnotes: [1] Limited options, sadly, though any of the named ones should, and I believe the Drobo stuff does too. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Data Redundancy, RAID5/LVM backup decisions
Daniel Pittman wrote: Ken Wilson kenwi...@ozemail.com.au writes: Daniel Pittman wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@dhanapalan.com writes: 2009/11/8 Kevin Shackleton kev...@reachnet.com.au: [...] Otherwise, the DLINK DNS-[24]32 devices can also run Linux, or... D Link do run linux, but hard to do anything on them, I wanted to do rsync, but it only accepts ftp. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dlink+dns-232+rsync Regards, Daniel thanks daniel There has been progress. Fun_plug was not reliably working on 343 at the time I bought dns-343. Required upgrading firmware to one that had been put up on web but withdrawn. So in the end I used it as was. Looks like I have a project to revisit. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Need to implement a Net Nanny on Ubuntu PDQ
aquick google http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Net+Nanny+on+Ubuntu+PDQie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficialclient=firefox-a found this forum thread http://fixunix.com/ubuntu/126505-net-nanny.html which may give you a solution cheers Ken Kyle wrote: Hi Sluggers, well, tonight was certainly an eye opener. So, ok, I apparently need to implement some form of Net Nanny software and pretty damn quick too. Can anyone recommend some form of package-based (Ubuntu for the local machine or CentOS-RHEL for the gateway) Nanny software pls? I really need something I can just install, do some form of basic (I mean BASIC) config and it will keep itself uptodate with regular machine updates. I really haven't got the time to learn some heavily convoluted new package. What are my chances? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] CentOS 5.4 release, in stock
Del you are pushing the limits, construct your mailing list. Ken Del wrote: Hi, I realise this list isn't the correct place for sales talk, but our own products mailing list is still under construction, so I'll keep it short. CentOS 5.4 is released, and Everything Linux have it in stock, $10 off this week only: http://www.elx.com.au/cat/software/centos ($35 for a USB stick, live or ready to install, 32 or 64 bit). The Live USB sticks are partitioned 1GB for the OS and 7GB for data so you can carry your distro and data with you. Also remember if you want to drop in-store for some Linux assistance, we have free 10 minute sessions from 2pm - 5pm tomorrow and every Tuesday. No need to book, just drop in and we'll see what we can do for you. We have longer 1 hour sessions on Thursdays, they need to be pre-booked. Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wanted : Cisco Router for CCNA
Try Reverse garbage and The Bower in Addison Rd Marrickvillle. They have had numerous routers there for a few dollars Ken Tony H.G Candito wrote: Hello SLUG! I'm after a Cisco (1600/2500?) etc model for my recent Cisco study undertakings. Happy to fork out max 100$ You could also take my details, drop a router off and lend it to me, and I could give it back when I'm done.. I don't really know what router would be be best for this actually, but I'm assuming it just needs to be fairly recent, but just something really basic that I can configure and make use of with Cisco's OIS. Cheers ! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: 40 Years of Unix
jam wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 10:00:06 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: The point about shells has already been made, but some people have got a bit sidetracked. Shells are command-interpreters; they mediate between the user and the kernel. Applications in Unix, as has already been said, get to run because a shell is spawned by the fork() system process. This is as true for GUI applications as for command-line text ones. [snip] old fart mode not with standing, not stupid, so I do know that opining that GUI s are slow and cumbersome compared to the CLI will provoke ummm response. What did surprise me was that the list of things GUIs *are* good at was not emphasized at all. Kinda like going to the YR12 ball in a F1 car rather than a stretch limo. Hearking back to Marghanita's original query: shells are an important part of the system and Wine, Java etc are apps not shells. Thanks for lively criticism :-) James Both GUIs and shells are just human interfaces for people to talk to computers, instructions are then translated to machine language for the computer. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] Re: SSEM 2009]
Different organisation reply to list I assumed would get it to the people who need to receive it, and it went to wrong list as it came from an individual not the actual ASCMO list, and thunderbird has helpfully suggested the last list I used, rather than beeping an error. Is this a bug in thunderbird? I am unable to reproduce it, so maybe the exact sequence is different to memory. More definitely its a bug in me. cheers Ken This doesn't look SLUG related. Perhaps a mistake? 2009/8/1 Ken Wilson kenwi...@ozemail.com.au: 2008-12-07 SSEM 2008 sponsorship $750 Yes we have paid it relatively recently, but it was for last year cheers Ken David Brock wrote: I think we've already paid this. I don't keep records (just countersign cheques according to Ken's request) I presume Ken should be able to look at bank statements etc to see if relevant cheque has been cashed. Dave - Original Message - From: The Boyds To: Brock David ; Wilson Ken Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Fwd: SSEM 2009 Hi Ken and Dave - could you please raise chq for this - and find out whether we paid them last year? Ta Michael Begin forwarded message: From: Denby Collinge denby.colli...@bigpond.com Date: 27 July 2009 2:34:27 PM To: 'David Brock' davbr...@ozemail.com.au, stringho...@optusnet.com.au Subject: SSEM 2009 Hi David Michael, Trust you’re both well! Lost track as to who I’m ‘spose to send this to. Also, thought you might like the brochure if you’re doing emails. Thanks, Denby Denby Collinge Conference Manager Conference Magic 7 Fiona Rd, Beecroft NSW 2119 Ph: 02 9481 7650 Email:denby.confma...@bigpond.com -- -- -- Hi Ken and Dave - could you please raise chq for this - and find out whether we paid them last year? Ta Michael Begin forwarded message: From: Denby Collinge denby.colli...@bigpond.com Date: 27 July 2009 2:34:27 PM To: 'David Brock' davbr...@ozemail.com.au, stringho...@optusnet.com.au Subject: SSEM 2009 Hi David Michael, Trust you’re both well! Lost track as to who I’m ‘spose to send this to. Also, thought you might like the brochure if you’re doing emails. Thanks, Denby Denby Collinge Conference Manager Conference Magic 7 Fiona Rd, Beecroft NSW 2119 Ph: 02 9481 7650 Email:denby.confma...@bigpond.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release Date: 07/30/09 18:09:00 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] draft intro/outros for SLUG monthly meeting videos
Good work Patrick I like the SLUG logo as it is our brand Ken elliott-brennan wrote: Hi All, I've decided to make myself useful. In the words of Agent 86, If only he had used his video skills for good instead of evil. :)) I've offered Ken to assist in editing the videos from the monthly meetings (and any others we put up). As editing, merging, transcoding etc is not that hard, I thought I'd also create an intro and outro for the videos, as well as add credits etc where necessary. This would give them a little more polish. So here are some pieces I've been working on. There are four which are similar. One each of white and black backgrounds with borders around the letters and one each of white and black with no borders around the letters. My favourite is the black with border - it makes the video stand out more. Each of these has moving images inside the letters. The video is from creative commons video and some I've downloaded from our site and others I've been given by Ken. The fifth is a mosaic of photos which dissolves into the slug icon with text at the bottom. The length of the videos is not indicative of what I'm proposing for our video, just to let people have a look and see what they would prefer. I've loaded them on youtube for ease of access. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLThA5pIkRs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeH-s2d1ZQU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfCMIEDLOXk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqdC_pW2Wx0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khkwhQ2hXWQ If anyone has any ideas I'd be more than happy to receive them. Additionally, I've proposed to Ken that I get the original video from the June meeting and then do some work on that. If there are slideshows in the meeting, can I be provided with them as well as these can be merged with the video? Once finished, I'll upload the videos for viewing and people can see what they think. Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Fwd: [SLUG] SLUG meeting videos/slides? SYSADMINS:- LOOK AT VIDEO STORAGE
ffmpeg2theora script from SLUG website that is a derivative of the script from LCA Sydney i think. Ken Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Michael Chesterton This time to the list :( Looks like there's an ugly encoding issue going on... the audio seems fine, but the video goes nuts in mplayer (and gstreamer just seems to ignore the intermediate frames -- mplayer is valiantly trying to do something useful with them). What did you use to encode the videos? - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Fwd: [SLUG] SLUG meeting videos/slides?
Michael Chesterton wrote: The videos are up, (thank you very much) they're in the 2008 directory. http://mirror.linux.org.au/lug/slug/2008/ looks like the LA server script that transports the videos to folders is not dealing with a new year. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SLUG meeting videos/slides? SYSADMINS:- LOOK AT VIDEO STORAGE
Jamnes and Jeffs talks recorded OK, are uploaded to LA site, available some time soon,, when fancy automatics happens. If anyone notices odd sequencing in the video then I can re sequence the components. The camera gave me really weird numbering of the component files, I think I have cat-ted them together in the right sequence, but if it is wrong email me and I will redo. SLUG server seems to be missing storage at /home/slug/slug.org.au/root/videos/ ***could the sysadmins look at where the 200G disc has gone. because it was not visible today. Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Ken Wilson wrote: Various problems. Sound had sufficient noise to be unusable, which was traced to a lead problem, now fixed with a new lead. Last month I connected to a wrong output so got no sound. This month looked OK as I was filming, and it should go up over the weekend. Any help on filming appreciated, I am doing it as no one else is, I know zip about video, and am learning in the dark on SLUG meetings. Ken Know, the feeling I once went to the effort of connecting an external microphone but forgot to turn it on. While audio without video is useful, unless you are recording Marcel Marceau - video without audio is useless. As with all these things, getting the formula right is useful. I noticed the camera was at the back of the room, perhaps those who have viewed the video can provide feedback on whether this works for them. side is hard to get speaker and screen together, from the back it is lower resolution but workable. I figure the camera position is close enough to get a reasonable view. I am not at full telephoto and have speaker and screen in view. And there is power supply. also it doesn't interfere with the limited seating supply. I want to listen to the speaker, rather than spend all my time worrying about camera angles, so I am generic about filming. Dynamic camera would be better in question and answer, but only if their was a runner with audience microphone. I would like speakers to paraphrase the question at the start of their answer, but that is hard for non experienced, and non prompted speakers, so often fails. Next month it will all be different in a different venue. Google potentially offers some much more exciting video/multiple cameras/flash presentation. We may see speaker, with video of speaker, image of slides from the laptop, crowd microphone and camera, in a composite image; equipment and potential is there in the Google building. We will probable just bumble along as usual with what we have, pending experience setting up in a new venue, and help on the technology. I am told there is a stereo mini-jack microphone feed, which is what I need. But later things could be much better. If you can make this work then step forward, because it is way over my head. If you know about flash and U tube then I probably need help. There are always debates available about free formats but lets get something up that is useful for our audience. cheers Ken I have used a side of room camera position, which worked well. I did try (without much success) to pan to members of the audience when they asked questions - but occasionally randomly panning to the audience - does provide variety without affecting the sound quality much. Towards the Front beside the audience reduces the images of backs of heads and being closer to the speaker the sound is better. Sorry, my attendance at SLUG meetings is too erratic for me to commit to helping out with video capture and production, but thanks for doing it. My 2c worth. Marghanita Martin Visser wrote: I know that this question comes up from time to time, but I think it is the first time that I have asked, so I thought I would kick it out there again ;-) I try to get to meetings 2 or 3 times a year, but can't always get there, mainly because of work and geographic issues. I know many members of the list are in a similar situation. As far as I am aware, video recordings of the main talks as well as slides are captured every month. Unfortunately, it seems though that this valuable material isn't being published. I know that there has been issues with manpower/server space/broken cameras etc that have been discussed in the past. So I guess I am wondering whether there is a plan to get this back on track? I don't imagine the problem is insoluble, and if people are made aware of what needs to be done they can possibly pitch in. (I am particular interested in seeing Jeff's talk tonight but probably won't be able to get there - and I know of at least one person that can't be there but would love to see it). Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Indexing under Linux
lyx has an indexing tool, where you insert tags to parts you want indexed through your text and it generates an index at the end, much the same as it can generate a bibliography. this requires author input and thought about what you want indexed, rather than being automatically generated. Automatic generation would be hard to give good results. ken Jon wrote: I have been asked by the editor of The Indexer -- the academic journal of indexers worldwide -- to write a brief non-technical piece about indexing under Linux; and by 'indexing' here I mean creating the A-Z indexes found at the backs of books and journals. My impression is that there is currently no specific Linux indexing software and no projects going on to create any, but because of the many meanings of 'index' it's hard to search the Web for this conclusively. Does anyone have any information they would like to share on book indexing software projects specifically for Linux, either free or commercial? Respond directly to me if you don't think others will be interested. I will take silence to mean 'No'. Thanks, Jon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SLUG meeting videos/slides?
Various problems. Sound had sufficient noise to be unusable, which was traced to a lead problem, now fixed with a new lead. Last month I connected to a wrong output so got no sound. This month looked OK as I was filming, and it should go up over the weekend. Any help on filming appreciated, I am doing it as no one else is, I know zip about video, and am learning in the dark on SLUG meetings. Ken Martin Visser wrote: I know that this question comes up from time to time, but I think it is the first time that I have asked, so I thought I would kick it out there again ;-) I try to get to meetings 2 or 3 times a year, but can't always get there, mainly because of work and geographic issues. I know many members of the list are in a similar situation. As far as I am aware, video recordings of the main talks as well as slides are captured every month. Unfortunately, it seems though that this valuable material isn't being published. I know that there has been issues with manpower/server space/broken cameras etc that have been discussed in the past. So I guess I am wondering whether there is a plan to get this back on track? I don't imagine the problem is insoluble, and if people are made aware of what needs to be done they can possibly pitch in. (I am particular interested in seeing Jeff's talk tonight but probably won't be able to get there - and I know of at least one person that can't be there but would love to see it). Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Indexing under Linux
Alan L Tyree wrote: This is really just the LaTeX embedded indexing. One of Jon's earlier posts explained that this is not what real indexers do. I both agree and disagree with Jon. Real indexers do not use embedded systems. Unfortunately, in real life, the real indexer is the author, and most authors use embedded indexing. It is one of the reasons why most indexes are so bad. Embedded indexing is very hard to keep consistent, and most authors know SFA about indexing. I have fooled around a bit with semi-automatic indexing. Instead of trying to do it all automatically, start out with index entries that seem suitable for your book (in other words, steal an index from a similar book). Apply these entries through some form of automatic indexing. The main objection to this is that it is just indexing words. This is true. But, if you look at most real indexes, probably 90% of the the entries _are_ indexing words. Alan You want the idea of a paragraph, and the most relevant paragraphs to your word. Their needs to be a brain in there somewhere, and the author is the best place to start. Support tools and index word lists from a similar book are useful but dont supply a complete solution. I use indexes of large books that I never read cover to cover, that I consult for information that I need now, the usefulness of the book is as dependent on the quality of the index as the information in the text. Medical texts have good indexes, that have had much human input, often over many editions. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Colin McCormack contact details
Hi Stephen No record of anyone paying membership under that name from 2003 on. No Record on main mailing list of anyone under that name. ( but someone's email address may not bear any resemblance to their name and they could just read the archives and leave no trace.) So I cannot pass on anything. Cheers Ken Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Hi Ken, Do we have the contact details for Colin McCormack? -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephen Ode st...@lcmtechnologies.com Date: 2009/5/18 Subject: To: presid...@slug.org.au Hi Sridhar Im trying to contact Colin McCormack who is a member of slug. He has done some programming for our company in the past and I have lost his contact details. I would like top get in touch with him re some new work could you either email his contact details or let him know my contact details. Thanking You Kind regards Stephen Ode LCM Technologies t 02 9401 5453 f 02 9401 5588 st...@lcmtechnologies.com *** The contents of this e-mail may contain information that is legally privileged and/or confidential to the named recipient. This information is not to be used by any other person, entity and/or organisation. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message immediately. No entities in LCM Technologies Pty Ltd warrant or guarantee that this e-mail (and attachments) are free of errors, viruses or interference, or have been received in the form sent. The recipient assumes all responsibility for any consequences resulting from all uses made of this e-mail. The views expressed in this document do not necessarily reflect those of the company. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] XBitHack
There is an add-on that allows a reply to list button to appear on the toolbar. I have just found it. Ken david wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Hi Irma, Think about this for a second: if you can do that to other people, can't other people do that to you? Wouldn't it be annoying if everyone who sent you an e-mail thought that their message was more important than others, and so decided to make it show up in red in your inbox? Hi Sridhar Isn't it annoying when you think you have a reply to the thread of which you were the OP, and it turns out that someone has hijacked the thread without changing the subject line?? Ah etiquette, etiquette... It's ok though.. my tongue is in my cheek and I'm not *really* annoyed. :)--smiley David. PS.. and seeing that we have changed the subject... how do you make thudderbird reply to list? I can't find the function anywhere. Possibly because i'm stupid, I know. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Linux netbook? (Marghanita da Cruz)
EEPC900 fixed on warranty by manufacturer after Zandros wiped and ubuntu installed. Ken Morgan Storey wrote: I don't believe that manufacturers can claim that the warranty has been voided by simply installing a different operating system. They will probably not offer support, but so be it. My wife got warranty fixes on her IBM t43 and EEPC 901 both had been changed to Ubuntu. I got warranty support on an MSI I owned even though I bought it with no OS. If the OS directly caused damage to the hardware then the Manufacturer could claim it wasn't their fault and void the warranty, but manufacturers barely know if the hardware they supplied was faulty let alone what caused it. On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au wrote: Martin Barry wrote: I meant to reply to this earlier but must have deleted Margharita's email, so sorry about the threading breakage but... From: Marghanita da Cruz marghan...@ramin.com.au and for the eeePC, this mob seems to be offering a Linux install on the Asus Eee PC S101 - presumeably they also offer the option of Xandros. http://www.vgcomputing.com.au/nsasusEPCS101-BRN026X.html This is a nice offer but not only are you still paying the Microsoft tax you are also paying for the Linux install. Might be good for someone new to Linux but I can't see many SLUGers taking them up on it... I think you missed my reference to Xandros - the Linux Distro that ASUS/eeePC uses. While I haven't checked this mob out, I was speculating that they may be able to supply the Linux version of the Eee PC S101. Yes, I have noted the discussion on SLUG about installing various Distros on the 701 - which shipped with Xandros Linux. However, I thought it was interesting that this mob were offering such a service. Using Linux should not require you to install it. Also the enquiries have been about suppliers of Linux Netbooks and Laptops - presumeably I am not the only one looking for a hardware manufacturer shipping a box running linux. Changing the operating system complicates warranties. I would like to be able to recommend Linux boxes to clients - but can't if the manufacturers warranty is affected. It would appear you get more for your buck if you go with the Linux option. I'm awaiting response from Asus on pricing and U.S. availability for the Eee PC S101. I will update this post with that information as soon as I get it. Until then, I will say that it's been widely reported that the S101 will be priced as follows: Windows XP, 16GB SSD: $699 Linux, 32GB SSD: $699 Linux, 64GB SSD: $799 Update: Asus confirmed the above pricing, but it will not sell the two Linux-based models in the U.S. The Windows-based S101 will hit the U.S. on November 1 and will feature a 16GB solid-state drive and a 16GB SD card, plus 20GB of online storage. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10061003-1.html Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New Install Advice
I have 512MB of DDR-400 RAM sitting in a drawer, available free to the OP. I had 2 x 512MB, one died so I upgraded to 2 x 1GB and that left an orphan 512MB which might as well go to someone who will use it as sit in my spares drawer till it becomes completely obsolete. I am in Sydney and will be at the SLUG meeting on Friday, otherwise the post office can move it to your mailbox. Ken Daniel Pittman wrote: Jeremy Visser jer...@visser.name writes: On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 13:45 -0700, tes...@gmail.com wrote: It's got a 1.6 gig processor, 128 meg RAM and a 40 gig HDD. I was thinking of Ubuntu ... but maybe there's something better? You're not going to be running GNOME on 128MB of RAM. You'll either need to install something more light-weight like Xubuntu or Puppy Linux, or upgrade it to at least 256MB. I would advise Ubuntu, and running the system up to 256MB or 512MB of memory for her. Running GNOME (or KDE) in 128MB is possible, but it will not be an awful lot of fun. Actually, running more or less anything in that is not going to be fun, given most of the memory use comes from the large footprint applications, usually comprising OpenOffice, Firefox, Evolution (or Thunderbird) and the printer driver for the random crappy inkjet printer. Those usually don't vary that much between desktops, and there really isn't /that/ much saving to make at the lowest level. Something with a 1.6Ghz CPU should be well able to handle the extra memory, and that would be a couple of hundred dollars very well spent. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] URGENT: best printer $100 (Quick - HPDJ710 just died and OW is closing soon)
Cannon have just worked for me, but have been some models that were limited. HP have just worked I have a spare Canon BJC85 colour bubblejet printer and spare cartridges just sitting idle as I now have a laserprinter, yours for the pickup, in Newtown cheers Ken Bruce wrote: Sorry for the Sunday urgent, but ye olde trusty HP deskjet just internally haemoraged Just need to print text docs and occassionally coloured text (headings, heading background etc), not looking for photo quality. Although, the cartridge war continues, what I want you to tell me is the the easiest inkjet brand to configure (drivers avail etc etc) and which to avoid (drivers nightmare etc). ... and I need to place a resume in some gentlemen's hand tomorrow asap. tia bruce -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] referencing lyx jabref bibtek
For the archives As one cites a reference in lyx there is an option to change how author, date appears and insert arbitrary text before and after author, date such as pp23-26. I could find no documentation referencing this, and thankfully now don't have to attempt to understand Bibtex style files. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] borrowing/renting external box for an ATA drive
I have several removable data backup drives that I swap over when I get around to it. One had given some smart errors when last used, I returned it to use a few weeks ago and it failed to be accessible 2 days ago. Rebooting and the machine would not reboot. replacing the drive with the other data backup and the machine booted happily. All the operating system and /boot are on the disc that was not touched. It may just be one drive that has failed, and the bios gave an error on accessing one of the disks and would not progress beyound that. I have a usb PATA drive box that you can borrow.I am in Newtown and commute to Campsie or the city on different days. cheers Ken Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, My wife asked me to re-install her Windows partition and in the process both PATA drives on her desktop (including both Windows and Ubunutu) started to give weird errors and can't be accessed any more. I tried using sysrescuecd 1.0 and the ubuntu cd in rescue mode but all give similar errors, on both drives. Since it seems highly unlikely to me that both drives became bad at exactly the same time (they have a few years difference in their age, different make, model and size) I suspect that the problem is with the motherboard or ATA controller. My own desktop is about 18 months old and I don't see mention of PATA controllers in its lshw or lspci output. Does anyone know where can I borrow (or maybe rent?) a PATA-usb box to allow me to access the disks and salvage the data from them? (and before anyone tells me again - we bought a USB drive this weekend together with a Windows Vista laptop and will start following Marry's advise to back things up). Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] MP3 player mounting on old machine but not new machine
Hi Patrick I sometimes have similar problems with a usb memory stick, and the following command fixes it. Its about one module being substituted for another, but others will have better explanations. #if usb disk doesnt work try this command in terminal. sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd cheers Ken elliott-brennan wrote: Hi all, After the HDD died in my machine, I took the opportunity to upgrade to a new machine, so built a Quad-core 2.8Ghz machine with an ASUS P5QC mobo. We bought our daughter a Samsung Pebble (very small digital music device. Very cute). It mounts easily on the machine I built for her (1.2? Ghz P4 Abit mobo - I think). I've installed GOS on it. Very pretty looking and an easy install. Now, on her machine, using the USB adapter this little Pebble shows up as a mass storage device. Easy. GOS uses Ubuntu 8.04 as it's base. My machine has Kubuntu 8.04 installed. It does not see the Pebble at all. dmesg shows no activity when I plug in the device. lsusb does not show the drive. fdisk -l does not show the drive Searching /dev for /sd named devices does not show the device either. I've also tried this device in my wife's eeepc. Nada. Another thing, in case it's relevant. The device has three partitions (can't remember what two are called, but one is called 'music'). I'm a bit clueless at this moment. Anyone with any ideas? I'm assuming it has something to do with the older machine have the older model USB adapters, but given the device is brand new (they're quite new to the market) I'd have thought I'd have had more problems with the device on the old machine. Regards and a Happy New Year, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] referencing lyx jabref bibtek
Google is usually good at giving me an option to get what I want rather than what I type. Ken Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/12/23 Ken Wilson kenwi...@ozemail.com.au: I have read the tutorials in lyx, and jabref, googled, installed extra packages for jurabib and natbib styles, tried all the obvious menu options. I am thinking that it is probably a bibtek preamble to the document that is required. Any pointers from here. Maybe you'll have better success with google if you spelt it latex and bibtex. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How do you un-partition a HD
If you stopped while just arranging where you wanted the disk partitioned, nothing has been written to the disk. If you actually proceeded with partitioning the disk then all the disc has been overwritten in the formatting of the disk/partitions, and data recovery would be very difficult and expensive if someone specialised does it. If you accidentally partitioned your external drive rather than your internal drive, then the internal drive should be OK. Make backups and start again. You dont so much unpartition a drive as delete partitions and repartition again. Hopefully there are other backups. cheers Ken Daryl Thompson wrote: Help Help Help Last night a copied all my data onto a external Hard disk. then precoded to install Linux forgetting to remove the external Hard disk. Now how can I un-partition my external Hard disk and recover all my data 4 years worth of it. I need most of it back Thanks Daryl The silly one -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] referencing lyx jabref bibtek
I am having trouble getting references in the format required for my partners thesis. Using lyx as a frontend to latek, and jabref as a frontend to bibtek. Using Natbib style of citations. currently getting Author (year) would like (Author, year:page) I have read the tutorials in lyx, and jabref, googled, installed extra packages for jurabib and natbib styles, tried all the obvious menu options. I am thinking that it is probably a bibtek preamble to the document that is required. Any pointers from here. Cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Which wireless data service should I signup to? was [SLUG] Don't buy ZTE's
Maybe this is why my optus cable is getting slower Ken Dean Hamstead wrote: optus is being resold like crazy check out plans from http://www.dodo.com.au http://www.exetel.com.au/residential-hspa-information.php rumours are of woolies (safeway) and internode entering the market via optus also (cites IT sections in various editions of Financial Review) Dean Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Del wrote: snip I have Telstra/Bigpond after having tried Virgin and Soul (Optus rebadged). Originally it worked under Linux fine but the modem got flaky and needs replacement, now it requires a fair bit of jiggling to get working. The replacement center is in Prestons and I haven't made it out there to get a replacement (they did send me a prepaid post baggie to use but I'd rather take it in myself). It's expensive but gives me the best coverage. My coverage requirements are more than most, I need it to work out on the harbour as well as up at the Hawkesbury and at least a reasonable distance off shore. Neither Virgin nor Optus made it out that far. The coverage is rock solid and the speed is good but you have to pay for it. I have the 10GB non-capped plan, I didn't realise they did a capped/shaped plan. The telstra plans are here: http://www.beeneverywhere.com.au/html/latest_offer.htm and the rest: http://virgin.com.au/Companies/VirginBroadband/VirginBroadband.aspx http://iprimus.com.au/PrimusWeb/HomeSolutions/Mobile+Broadband+%283G%29/ http://vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/mobile-broadband-terms.htm Marghanita -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Simple Accounting Stock Control software
Ben wrote: I'd like to use some accounting and stock control software. I run a computer business and I want to track the purchase price of parts and correlate them with sales invoices. I'd like to be able to categorise parts based on where they are stored. It would be good if I could get it to work with a barcode scanner for both products and serial numbers in the future. I don't know what double entry accounting is, and I don't want to find out unless absolutely have to. Ideally a book keeper would be involved at some stage. Double entry bookkeeping is not that hard with an accounting package. The programme does it for you, you make one entry and with a prompt the programme completes the other, as opposed to manual ledgers where you wrote things in 2 places. gnu cash does the accounting part of things well, but I dont think its stock control is up to it(I have not used stock control but a few years ago mailing lists suggested it was not yet ready) Ken I only want to be able to generate a list of: * Money in this quarter * money out this quarter * parts on hand And in the future, it would be nice to be able to look up invoices for warranty parts based on serial numbers. FOSS or pay for, I don't mind. Emphasis on EASY. I've tried to use MYOB but the ensuing psychiatry is too expensive. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] copying files by email header date, file date stamp same
I have had thunderbird fail as too many emails in inbox in a user that did not expunge, and then multiple copies were saved, and this cycle repeated itself to varyinging levels of success several times. claws was able to handle the 50,000 + emails, and remove duplicates. cheers Ken Voytek Eymont wrote: I have a mailbox with approximately 50,000 emails; when I tried to age the emails with archivemail, archivemail or some part of it couldn't quite cope with size/volume/some unknown aspect, and, 'crashed' on this mailbox perhaps as a result of that, I now have some 50,000 email files sequentaily date/time stamped, some, there is no way of sorting on file date/time stamp (that I can see) I think... that failed procedure might have also duplicated? triplicated? quadrupled? mail volume... the mail headers do have correct date/time how can I copy say the last 7 days worth of emails from the files? like, if date in the header=last 7 days, copy this file from here to there -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP
Have you checked out Geoffrey Robinson at Grandville TAFE. His courses are not official TAFE courses so you wont find them on TAFE websites, but he manages to keep them cheap by having them as electrical engineering certificate courses. This means official TAFE cannot tell you about them. http://www.gonzo.edu.au/moodle/ has information. Ken Blindraven wrote: Some of the issues I am having is how much of any given subject in the LPI in a nutshell I need to know. It starts off with pretty intense Hardware stuff and I was under the impression that it was a different field altogether. I can see why it's relative but I certainly was not expecting it. A course would be my best option, one that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg. I.e one that does not yet exist. That, or someone/people that live close by that want to a form a study group. - I may just post this idea and hope there are those that are keen. Tony. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I looked in my VUE page you can book the exams at any VUE testing centre too. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to sit for the LPIC 101 and 102 exams basically used the LPI Linux Certification in a Nutshell book from O'Reilly - http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283/ as well as the exam prep material from https://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1 Regards, Martin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Atom Processor - what distro works?
I have an eee pc running on ubuntu eee, it ran fine on xandros, and there are numerous other distros for it, fedora, mandriva opensuse?. People have made eee specific kernels such as the ubuntu eee thqt have the drivers . Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } I'm in Osaka at present. Looking at buying mini-itx mobo that has atom cpu. Is there a distro that works with this cpu? Centos? The EEE PC has an atom cpu doesnt it? Sorry for asking rather than searching - having laptop problems (or Hotel LAN problems). Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Full / partition
Your second partition mounted on / could be covering the contents of the folder that is the mount point. Unmount your second partition and then list contents of the directory that is your mount point. If you inadvertently wrote to the mount point directory, because the 4G partition was not mounted at the time, rather than the mounted 4G partition, this would be the result. Mounting a partition on a directory renders the contents of that directory invisible while the partition is mounted there. Ken Glen Turner wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 17:33 -0400, Geoffrey Cowling wrote: I've just built a new machine for myself, and have put Ubuntu on it (I've usually used Debian), and there seem to be quite a few Ubuntu experts around here. I have a 400G disk, and I partitioned /sdb2 as / and gave it 1G. This was working well until I foolishly mounted a partition from another disk on a subdirectory of it --perhaps 4G. This gave some error messages, and now df says the partition is full and some things I try to do with apt-get give error messages, (incl. is your disk full) I have /boot, /usr /usr/local/ swap /tmp and /home partitions. That's very odd. You say you used 'mount' to add the new partition into the tree of directories. That shouldn't have used any disk on /. Are you sure you didn't attempt 'cp' the contents of the new partition into /? The output of 'df' will show all mounted directories -- does 'df' show your 4G partition at all? Personally, I don't bother with partitions on personal-use computers, they always seem to cause more trouble than they solve for computers used in that role. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Aust Tax Office and e-tax
Somewhere in the one I received it said it was in lieu of a paper tax pack as I had submitted on paper previously. They would like people to submit electronically, as it saves them reading the paper ones, they have the group certificates, share dividend data, interest data electronically so can match that electronically. Means that most electronic returns, where the data matches and claim thresholds are not exceeded, probably are not even seen by a human eye. Whereas paper ones someone has to read. So while paper ones are still possible it is not the easiest option for the ATO. I will continue to submit on paper as the CD software was faulty, it did not run on any of my Linux computers, even under wine. Ken bill wrote: Just received a communication from the Aust Tax Office - apparently hand delivered ie not by Aust Post - addressed to my 85 year old mother and advising her that she can submit her 2007-08 tax return using the e-tax software on the enclosed CDRom. I think that the communication and CDRom will be returned to the Tax Dept , at thier expense, with a nice little note attached. Anyone else received such a package? Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] BBC Embedded Media Player
ubuntu heron firefox3 standard flash out of the box, works for me on about 15 clips after 5secs of rotating dots Ken Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: BBC News articles these days often included embedded video, playable via Flash[0]. When I try to play any of them, all I get is a continuously-rotating spinner. This is the same regardless of Web browser, and I am definitely using the Adobe Flash plug-in (and not an alternative like Gnash). Does anyone know how to get it working? [0] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/help/7277283.stm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Advice on data transfer over shortwave
A satellite phone would get low power requirement access in a durable box, as long as it was modem compatible. Inmarsat email works well from ships, but call duration is pricey. Ken Mehmet Yousouf wrote: Hi all, just to let you all know, I am grateful for the advice from Grahame, Del and Terry. I have aimed a bit lower in our ambitions and will look at first making sure we have reliable power to keep his notebook running and aim at giving him email capability. With the programming, we will have to organise his part a bit more carefully (he will be going to the shops every 6 to 8 weeks, he can synchronise then ). This has ended up a bit off topic so my apologies. Thanks again Regards, Mehmet - Original Message - Subject: [SLUG] Advice on data transfer over shortwave From: Mehmet Yousouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: SLUG slug@slug.org.au Date: 15-06-2008 11:54 Hi, I have a friend that will be going to the Solomon Islands for a year (work on a thesis). He will have some solar panels to give him some power but not much else. What I am hopeful is possible is to set him up so that he can use rf to connect and merge / update a git repository (he is also a programmer - and a linux user) and possibly send emails. Has anyone got any experience in this area? Is it workable? Advice on equipment / gotchas /power requirements / set up would be greatly appreciated. He will be heading off in July and I would like to test something before he goes. Regards, Mehmet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Granville TAFE Linux Are they courses there for next term enrolments
As far as I know yes, but Geoffreys server and name servers are down yesterday and today, so no details, and I cant find his number. cheers Ken R.G.Salisbury(default) wrote: Hi all Linux courses at Granville TAFE. Are they still happening? Normal website is down it seems. www.gonzo.edu.au/moodle/ Has it moved somewhere else? Anyone know! Thx Roger -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Minimum username length?
3 characters works in ubuntu and redhat out of the box. Redhat has a minimnun password length of 5 and not all letters. Ken DaZZa wrote: Folks. Anyone know if there is a default minimum username length for some (or all) current Linux distros? I have a vague recall from somewhere it's 4 characters minimum - but can't find any documentation to back this up. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] f-spot and the tags, will it get messy?
Sebastian Spiess wrote: Hi all, lately I was playing with fspot and a couple of pictures from two or tree events. I started tagging the pictures. People Family Brother People Family Sister People Friends ... Places AUstralia ...Uluru Places Germany ... Events holiday 1 Events holiday 2 other ugly people other cows and so on for 160 photos I created around 20 tags... Then I thought about my other more than 1 photos and all the tags they will need. Of course I know that the tags will grow slower by time but even now all my tags wont fit onto one screen height. So what is your experience with tags, with many of them? How do you guys organise/structure you tas? any thoughts? which struckture is not good, hard to scale Cheers, seb PS: I posted this on ubuntu-au list a while ago but got no reply :-( I have started to tag things then stopped as I realised that potentially there were so many categories that tagging photos took longer than finding them on a visual time line. I have then in groups from particular trips, and F spot puts them on a time line which is a similar pattern. So far memory and time line is working and that has been easier than creating a different tagging system. This is similar to my slide collection which is mostly from trips in sequential order and I just use memory and labels on the actual slide, which has mostly worked, but all this will fail some day as I get more photos and less human memory. cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Auntie excludes us
Getting sound to play with animation in the way and the repetition and timeing that the artist wants just works in flash. In HTML there are issues, Many options are not there, or not obvious. Flash animations are also much smaller in file size than animated giffs (x10). Ken James Dumay wrote: XUL is Mozilla only (open source lockin anyone?) Its bullshit that people think that this sort of stuff needs to be done in flv - embedding an mpeg stream is easy enough todo in HTML. James On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, James Purser wrote: With regard to your query regarding a Linux version - due to the technical requirements of ABC Now we have been unable to find a robust and secure tool for making the Flash based code into a stable Linux version at this time. Translation: We made a technology decision without reference to portability. You pay the price. We are keeping an eye on developments in this area and hope to bring a Linux version to you as soon as practicable. XULRunner, anyone?!?!? -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Just because you're on holiday, doesn't mean you're not a geek. http://engineer.openguides.org/ A 'critic' is a man (or woman) who creates nothing and thereby feels qualified to judge the work of creative men (and women). There is logic in this; he is unbiased - he hates all creative people equally. - Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
David Guest wrote: Brad Thomson wrote: It's not only the data retention requirements that feature in this type of software, but depending on the exact nature of what the business does, ongoing funding compliance. I have just come off the back of a painful 5 months facilitating the introduction of an industry-specific, proprietary solution for a large nursing home on the Central Coast, and have seen failure within the software result in the business not being able to provide supporting evidence for their funding claims for particular classes of residents. I believe that we could have coded equivalent functionality, or modified an existing package in a shorter timeframe than has proved the case in working with the vendor to fix the problems, but unfortunately we're not able to spend the tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to ensure that we meet all legal obligations. Again this is a finance thing between the nursing homes and the government funders. The documentation relates to the level of care that the nursing home patient requires and increasing levels attract increasing funds. The formula covers areas such as dementia and incontinence. Doctors regard most of this documentation as of limited value to their clinical assessments. The information doctors want and need is not dictated by government legislation. Open source developers have a free hand. They just have to keep the doctors happy. David Some information doctors need for their own information and for the possibility of future medical negligence claims. Other information is dictated by government legislation for medicare claims, pharmaceutical benefits scheme, ATO, which will mostly be in the billing part of the package but some of this will be in the medical record possibly. Most of this will be the same as paper, show it if we ask for it. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
David Guest wrote: Ken Wilson wrote: But they do have to keep it for 7 years plus, for the taxman, I thought it was three years for the tax man but you could be right. and in medical negligence court cases it can be 21+7 years plus. I don't think financial records are relevant to medical negligence cases. There would be no medico legal reason to retain them for more than 7 years. At times the appointment schedule and what some one was billed for do have a bearing on the case, as to what was tried to deal with an urgent situation, or how the situation was viewed. The ultimate repository of medical billing data is held by Medicare Australia. Medicare is an insurance company for those with medicare cards. The doctors bill is to the patient, people have just got used to being able to flick it to Medicare. Uninsured patients eg overseas travelers or those with no medicare entitlement are still directly billed, workers compensation cases are billed to the insurer; numerous doctors do not deal with medicare for some or all patients, bill patient, patient pays and patient claims partial rebate from Medicare and or private fund. Most would have the backup disc and just hope someone could read it if ever required. Unlicensed copies of most medical software will permit read only access. read only patient file by file, but not transfer of whole into a new program. Try searching through years of data. In any event, it's doubtful that anyone has ever tested the restore of the backup. ;-( very true Ken David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Medicare is now quite broken and due for an overhaul. So it will become even more complex, as it will retain current complexities and add new ones, rather than wiping clean and building again. Not sure about all the references to Legal stuff, is this record keeping for insurance purposes? court cases, patient versus doctor for negligence, assault, bad outcome etc official bodies investigating complaints, or financial eg ATO Ken Marghanita -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
David Guest wrote: The most successful electronic medical record (EMR) packages in primary care have been written by doctor programmers. To date non-programmer doctors have been unable to articulate their requirements or have misunderstood the technology. Most EMR packages use MS SQL as their backend. A few use firebird and one uses 4G. It would take knowing both sides, or a lot of discussion between a doctor and a programmer. The way doctors think and record notes is a style that is learnt on an apprenticeship model over years of uni, internship and residency and is reinforced in most communication that you have between doctors about patients. A programer will not pick this up in a few hours of consultation. If anyone is writing programes like this I can provide a medical viewpoint. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
David Guest wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: In this case it's much more than billing data - we're talking about sensitive medical records that meed to be managed and interchanged in ways strictly defined by guidelines and legislation set by governments and various other authorities. Actually, despite their reputed mercenary nature, most doctors don't really care about their billing data. They set their fees as they see fit and as long as most of the columns add up and they are happy with the numbers, they are content. If they want to swap to a new billing package they usually just run out the old one and start the new. But they do have to keep it for 7 years plus, for the taxman, and in medical negligence court cases it can be 21+7 years plus. Most would have the backup disc and just hope someone could read it if ever required. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, David Guest wrote: The format for this data is undocumented but should not be too difficult to decipher. It changes from time to time so you are playing samba to HCN's Microsoft. Making assumptions about data, especially something as important to a business as billing data, is fraught with danger. For all their foibles, the UK's National Programme for IT (the _enormous_ and mostly disastrous IT programme of the NHS) started specifically by defining data formats and open interchange, the idea being that they can chop and change suppliers if necessary. That really should be the starting point here too. There are a few different aspects...the Medicare rebate, credit card payments, health insurance claims, the patient's medical information and practice accounting stuff. This would involve integration with the Tax office, Medicare Office. There is also an aspect of managing patient medical information. There is some info about the NSW E-Health record project, yes NSW not VIC, here: http://www.egov.vic.gov.au/index.php?env=-categories:m2120-1-1-8-s-0reset=1 Note NSW are not advertising the performance or not of their E-Health project. All the existing software has had 20 years of slowly expanding from a practiced based accounting software, to include appointmernts, practice management, interfaces with outside organisations like ATO and Medicare, within practice LAN, then remote WAN then packages of lookup information, prescribing packages, pathology reporting, radiology image viewing and medical records. Security and user priveledge levels should be in there and soon to come will be interface with some smart card of portable patient information. The existing players have had a long and painful growth with much that didn't work well for some time, despite it being a market that would pay for quality. A FOSS solution would have to start where the others are now, a big step, but if it allowed a way out of vendor lock in it could gain a space. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open Source Medical Practice Management Software
Although people are the same everywhere, and diseases vary a bit between regions, medical software is country specific. 4 areas 1 Accounting and practice management. Each country has its own laws so accounting and tax vary in each country, and tax is changed each year, also each country has different health subsidies, insurance, and payments system. Medicare has 10s of thousands of item numbers and then there are private insurance rebates for these items as well, and they are unique to Australia, and are varied each year. 2 Lookup data used by Doctors. Each country has different allowed drugs, as regulatory bodies may not have allowed a drug, or have restricted it, or the government may restrict its subsidy, or the pharmaceutical company may not market in that country. this information changes regularly, in book form a new book each month. Various textbooks in electronic form, which are used from other countries, and vary every few years when a new edition comes out. 3 Recall and reminder systems for PAP smears, vaccinations, and to make sure abnormal results are seen and patients are recalled, and that it actually happens. 4 Actual notes written by the Doctor about an individual patient, and correspondence about that patience. This is the loose leaf folder on an individual patient that your doctor has. Currently only about 50% or less of doctors use electronic medical record. They are no faster and often slower than paper based systems. Hospitals are moving to electronic systems, but the primary medical record is still paper based. 1 hospital I work at, every time you hear thunder you know the network is down. Servers elsewhere, dodgy microwave link, no electronic ordering of tests or viewing of results, no writing of letters until the weather stabilises. Pen and paper still works, but old paper records get locked in some remote dungeon and later pulped after a relatively short period, ?3-4 years from last attendance. All hospitals in NSW are being moved onto the one electronic system that is slow and cumbersome for end users, poorly supported, and now will lock that company in as the only providor in NSW, as no competitor has local experience. What Doctors are paying for is the regular updates that incorporate the changes in all these external data that occur in a timely manner. One way they pay is by having the software subsidised by drug company advertising in the software in front of them on the cheaper system. An open data format would be good for financial records and patient information. An open source solution would need to be implemented and maintained in each country. this will be difficult for a small volunteer community and require they active involvement of a support company in that country. The purchasers will pay for a good solution, but most would want to see a working example, and hear about one from a buddy. There are plenty of conferences that can be used to showcase a good working example with a good support company, but till there is an imputus to change, like their current system breaks, there will be slow uptake. Ken Tony Sceats wrote: Exporting patient files, with the patients details (name, DOB, sex, Medicare number, etc.) from HCN's software is possible as they can be exported from the program as a delimited text file (patients.out), but the patient's billing history, etc. cannot be imported into another medical practice suite and the database isn't accessible without HCN's access (logged in with a valid logon). to me it sounds like what is needed is to transform the exported file into an XML schema which, if done in a meaningful way, could be fairly easily transformed into any desired format - that is, there's probably only a certain amount of different information types to worry about, and each type could be captured with appropriate markup and class definitions.. then it could be imported and/or exported into any db schema with a standardised parser Now, this type of software is the perfect candidate to be on an open platform (which some medical practices use Linux to store a flat-file database on), and with simple google seaches I've found some open-source Medical Billing/Appointment book practice management suites, but they were all on 0.x releases and unsuitable for the Australian medical billing system, with no mention to Medicare. Has anyone found anything for Australia; I'd be interested in following the development for a Linux/multiplatform open-source practice management suite suited to Australia's medical/Medicare standards. I completely agree, and would even go further to day that it is exactly this kind of information that needs to be freed.. but in terms of the software itself, I imagine that this sector is in a particularly lucrative market place. What I mean to say is that given the international climate around medical data (well, ok, the USA's medical system), the goodness and badness of software
Re: [SLUG] Trying to create 'brady bunch-style' video
Once you have the composite jpeg you could use the mogrify command from image magic to turn it into an animated giff which would flick through the composite images in order. Focused details here:- http://www.antarcticanimation.com/content/about/technology/technology.php The image magic site has the details of all 160 options if you want to do any variation. cheers Ken elliott-brennan wrote: Hi all, I've googled a bit and searched through the Imagemagick e-mail archives, but not found anything I could use. I'm not even certain that what I want to do is possible. I also posted this to the Imagemagick mail group. The only response I got back was from someone who told me there was an app for Mac OSX, called Grid which could do this. I know I'm showing my age, but if you recall the intro to The Brady Bunch tv show: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mkeGOH5vy7I This is what I'm trying to achieve. If I take four separate video streams of my children and create four separate collections of still images: A0001.jpeg to A1000 B0001.jpeg ... C0001.jpeg ... D0001.jpeg ... I know that I can use: montage *.jpeg -geometry +2+2 montage_geom.jpeg To create a two-by-two individual .jpeg of the four images (very neat - I know this is basic stuff, but when I found it I thought How easy is that?) However, what I want to do is create a montage of four separate streams of jpegs, creating a related set of sequentially numbered composite images so that I can then rejoin the whole as one raw video file and come out with something similar to the Brady Bunch intro (an image in each quarter of the window is fine - it doesn't have to be a complex as the BB intro). If anyone is able to provide assistance with this, it would be most appreciated. Also, if there is a site which explains this or another forum, a redirection or URL, if available, would also be appreciated. Many thanks to anyone who is able to provide assistance, advice or information and my apologies if I've overlooked something obvious. Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] iAudio mp3 player won't automount after upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10, suggestions?
Some times on several computers at home usb memory sticks will fail to automount. This happens after using some other usb device has required a different driver? Happened intermittently for a while but not recently after reinstalling Gutsy. fixed with:- sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd Ken Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton wrote: I upgraded to Ubuntu 7.10 yesterday. My mp3 player (an iAudio) automounted ok under Ubuntu 7.04, but now fails (Nautilus pops up an error message). Looking in dmesg, I see this error message (full log Just to make it clear: the iAudio mp3 player is a standard USB Mass Storage device. No fancy proprietary interface. Does a USB flash key or hard drive have the same problem? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Eee
Nothing has really replaced the psion. small but usable keyboard, and as much screen as can be fitted into a pocket with useful battery life from 2 AAs. PDAs are all lookup devices with very limited data entry. Maybe this will stimulate progress in that direction. Ken Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Rev Simon Rumble As for the screen being too small, Jeff I think that's kinda the point. It's meant to be ultra-portable, like the old Toshiba Librettos. I'm all for ultra-portable -- my laptop preferences are restricted to 12 or 13 because I travel so much. I plug in to a 24 screen at home. :-) I think 7 is too much of a tradeoff. They can easily fit a 10 screen on the sucker, which would be significantly better for all use cases. They'll ship one soon enough. I think this ends up being a misbalanced product, like those OQO machines. The Eee is *almost* a laptop, but the screen sucks, and it's not powerful enough to be comfortable... but the form factor is really not interestingly different enough to warrant those tradeoffs. It doesn't suit any use other than average laptop use cases, and my laptop has the right balance of size, cost and power (and you can get similarly powerful at a lower price). The Eee is certainly more powerful than a PDA, but way too big. It doesn't even attempt UMPC or tablet functionality. So what does it have going for it? It's, uh, cheap. And the usefulness of the product reflects that. That's about it. :-) - Jeff -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Eee
amoungst the PDAs there has been nothing to replace the psion. a keyboard that you can type on, a readable screen, it fits in your pocket, it runs on 2 AA batteries, it houses its stylus and at a relatively cheap price. Palms are a lookup device, but for older eyes have small text size and text entry is slow. Blackberrys dont have a easily useable keyboard. some PDAs will keep trying to grow and small laptops will keep trying to get smaller. There will be a market for this genre, and various variations of it. eg smaller but with more memory, or larger screen, or more battery. It has sold well so all the other manufacturers will make one too. Ken Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh wrote: Most normals I know don't like my laptop because the screen is too small. They want 14 or more, basically as a portable desktop replacement. I don't know too many normals who like ultra-portables. Yes but that's like going to your accounting department, who use paper ledgers, and asking them how they'd like the replacement computer software to work. They'll explain exactly how the paper system works, and get you to implement that in software. I think this device, at this price point, defines a new genre. Something that, due to the price, justifies the limitations. I want one. Now to work on SWMBO... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Crossover office trial version is supposed to be the same as the purchase version, just it runs out in 30 days, and there is less support. photoshop CS installed and ran similar to in wine but printing not working out of the box as in wine. This may just be that I havent installed printer /driver in wine/crossover yet. flash mx fails to install flash 4 installs but no tool palette, so not yet working. premiere fails to install these are the same results as for wine. cross over just has nicer install wizard guis and puts menu items in your applications menu automatically, and you are buying a level of support on supported applications, which are the ones they know work (relatively short list on their website). Wine/crossover office is said to have benefited by recent interest of Hollywood animation studios in getting photoshop working on wine, so photoshop CS now works on wine despite it being on the list of applications that don't work on crossover offices website. cheers Ken James William Dumay wrote: For macromedia products it memory serves crossover office supports these out of the box. Although not completely foss it might be worth looking at it Cheers, James Dumay On Nov 27, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS, flash 5, director, and sonic forge. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] virtualisation and wine on ubuntu gutsey for adobe photoshop flash premier etc
Lisa uses ubuntu for some of her work and dual boots into windows xp mainly for adobe/macromedia photoshop, flash, premiere, after effects, director and sound forge. There is a bit she does on a mac as well. Often there is something that needs a visual tweak but she is back in linux. GIMP she finds hard as she knows photoshop and does not want to learn a second way of doing things. Gutsy upgraded GIMP from 2.2 to 2.4 which introduced some changes that were not liked so we tried GIMPshop but it didn't do what she wanted. Wine has succeeded in installing and running but have not yet extensively tested photoshop CS. Director, and sonic forge installed and appear to work. Flash 5 installed but doesn't run. Premier installed but looks dodgy on a brief look. Flash MX and after effects failed to install. If these programmes could be run in wine or virtualisation then the need to switch back and forward between Operating systems in the middle of work flow would be removed. My question is what of the half dozen available virtualisation system is going to be best for this collection of programmes? Does anyone have any experience? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Aus based web hosting?
Sydney Web Hosting has such http://sydneyweb.net./ Geoffrey is a TAFE teacher, teaches Linux and is very helpful, lives in Marrickville, member of SLUG. See website for prices but I think it is $100 per year. Lisa has her sites there. Ken Blindraven wrote: I'm after a decent Sydney (or Aus) based host that has all the cpanel/ftp/mysql/php perks but for a fairly low (ok ,very cheap) price. I only need it for a Linux blog that i can update from time to time when I fix things so i can come back to it later + I'll likely chuck a simple portal system on it for learning on. So I'm only looking at like 200mb of space MAX and sweet.f.a bandwidth. Any ideas gurus? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
might need to order in the WRT54GL Ken Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote: On 28/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks ... so the consenses seems to be the WRT54GL. Looked around Harris, OfficeWorks, and a local computer shop ... no one has a WRT54GL, but they do have stocks of WRT54G. Did not buy one yet because I did not remember what hardware version of WRT54G had Linux vs. VxWorks. ( finally found out it was anything v5.x, preferrably v4 ) Have to go back again to see again what versions they have. John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Epson 34 90 Ubuntu
system administration printing new printer local or network manufacturer model add driver or select similar model if driver not available. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am a Linux newbie. Can anyone tell me how to get the Epson 3490 working properly in Ubuntu 7.04. The rpm drivers work fine in Fedora but if you use alien it does not work as well. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lee --- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za -- For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Distributing Linux CD/DVDs
try http://www.elx.com.au/ Ken Bryce Robilliard wrote: I am after the latest release of Debian Sarge (4.0_r1) in the DVD version, 4 DVD's worth, but I do not have a fast or reliable enough Internet connection to download even one of the ISO images. Does the SLUG distribute (even for a fee) copies of distros on optical media? I live on the Central Coast, and I would much appreciate is you could provide me a copy of the latest version of the distro' on DVD. Do you provide such a service? Regards, Bryce Robilliard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] cups ubuntu
I had this/similar problem after a reinstall. didnt find any solutions on forums etc. complete CUPS removal, and it took gnome desktop as well; and reinstall fixed it. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi can anybody tell me in a line or two how to undo ubuntu breaking cups. Much ranting on the forums, words by Jeff, but no one liners ... My cupsd.conf IS correct CUPS runs on localhost, but does not broadcast, or print (but the www interface at 631 is working) to the rest of the network The forums talk of ubuntu's closed ports policy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/cups# netstat -anp |grep 631 tcp0 0 192.168.5.254:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7690/cupsd tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7690/cupsd Thanks, it will save me spelunking ... James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Baby Ducks and thunderbird mail
jam wrote: Hi I think Thunderbird must be the worst GUI mailer I've ever used. In case baby-duck prevails and someone is able to set me straight, here are my woes: Slug mail is a digest. I want to reply quoting a selected bit, snipping if need be. TB seems to not allow selection of the quoted reply text! Using thunderbird out of the ubuntu repository without plugins. Thunderbird works better for me than evolution and syphleed, but I dont have big requirements. I Hit reply and I can delete parts of quoted text. There is no notification/biff. I do not want to download plugins and wossname, I just want live (mail open) or toolbar/taskbar notification that there is new mail. Seems to have none. I get a system sound, could be customised, and number of messages is displayed beside the inbox. I have not seen a setting to open a window, but I dislike that sort of interuption. I want to click dispose of spam. click == send to the account for bayesian learning, forwards to oz-spam-registry and utterley purges. Seems 'write your own plugin' clik junk and it goes to junk folder for Bayesian learning and is automatically purged from there in time. Forward to x-spam registry I have not seen. Ken Gulp, only been using for a couple of days: should I recommend to friends/relies/customers. Pretty certain the answer is already no. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] drive woes
cd burner software usually selects which drive it will use, with options to change. ken Rufi_Dukes wrote: after finally enabling mulitmedia in my new computer the other day, and watching one video, today i burnt an iso of some other distro, but noticed that i could only use the second drive; and neither drive would play audio or video, but i *did* manage to burn the cd... then, 2 hours later i come back to my machine to try and figure out what is wrong, when lo, things get even stickier!now the second drive won't open!!!??? anyone help talk me thru what i can do to sort this out; or direct me to a good source of info/howtos all about drives: reading them, mounting them, troubleshooting them...? rufus feisty on intel core 2 quad; two dvd drives -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] disk full
Thanks Erik No large files with find. Unable to unmount partitions to check under their mount points. Once shut down unable to reboot, Live cd showed that my rsync script had copied files to the mount point and then mounted a filesystem on top. Ken Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Ken Wilson wrote: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 25G 24G 0 100% / Err, 24 out of 25 gig in / Since you have everything in different partitions you are only interested in what happens on /dev/sdc1, you might try: sudo find / -xdev -type f -printf %15s%p\n |sort -r | head -50 to find the 50 biggest files in /. The other possibility is that you have large amoungs of data in say /home, and then have another disk mounted otver the top. HTH, Erik -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DVD drive not working with ubuntu
On feisty or dapper you will still need to install required codecs to be able to watch dvds, same work finding and installing the packages for ?libdvdcss and friends. Google and ubuntu forums can guide you. libdvdcss2 and w32codecs for Ubuntu December 4, 2005 Posted by carthik in ubuntu. trackback You need codecs (decoders) and software to read the contents of DVDs to be able to see multimedia files of different formats, as well as DVDs. These software are provided free for use in Ubuntu - however due to restrictions on distributing these modules in countries like the USA, they are not always easy to find. This post will tell you how to find them to install them on your Ubuntu computer. The libdvdcss2 package helps you play dvds. The w32codecs package is used to play some media file formats in mplayer, xine etc. Update: The following instructions have been updated work perfectly fine! Some of the old repositories that do not work anymore have been moved to the very end of this post for archival purposes. Last Updated: April 08, 2007 Installation instructions for libdvdcss2 and w32codecs in Ubuntu To add libdvdcss2 and win32codecs to your Ubuntu installation, you have to add the Medibuntu package repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. To do this, you have to: 1. Edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list using either of the following commands in a terminal: $gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to open it in the GUI text editor or $sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list to open it in the Vim command line text editor 2. Add the following lines to add the Medibuntu repository to the file: ## Medibuntu - Ubuntu 6.10 “edgy eft” ## Please report any bug on https://launchpad.net/products/medibuntu/+bugs deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free If you are running Feisty or some other release, other than edgy, replace the word “edgy” in both lines above with the name of the release you are using. 3. Import the gpg key for the Medibuntu repository to ensure that the packages are installed without warnings/errors regarding trust: To do this, run the following command from the terminal: wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - 4. Now update the local list of packages to get the list of packages from the newly added Medibuntu repository: In a terminal execute the following command: sudo apt-get update 5. Now you can install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs using the following command: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 w32codecs Note: There are installation instructions on the Medibuntu page for Dapper and newer that are different - only because the instructions help you create a new sources.list file without mucking around in the old sources.list file. Feel free to follow them instead. I posted the old-style instructions that modifies the existing sources.list file to ensure that the instructions work for everyone - those using Warty(the first release ever) through those using the latest release of Ubuntu. There are a lot of wonderful packages provided by Medibuntu. Feel free to install any other you like, or might want. Just in case… In case the medibuntu repositories go down, you can add and use Seveas’ repositories. You will then have to add similar line to the /etc/apt/sources.list file, with the Seveas repository url etc. Seveas’ repository has a few mirrors as listed below: * http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx (Sponsored by Brett Johnson) * http://seveas.imbrandon.com (Sponsored by Brandon Holtsclaw) * http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ (Sponsored by Niels Roosen) * http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas (Sponsored by Henri Cook (orion-hosting.co.uk) * http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ (Sponsored by Peter Lieverdink) As a quick guide to using Seveas’ repository instead of the Medibuntu repository, you should change the lines added to the sources.list file to read like: deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all and the gpg-key add command will now be: wget http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - The other commands/steps can be modified as neccessary - it is not too difficult to figure it out, and the exercise is left to the reader for now Ken Rufi_Dukes wrote: i got a new machine a few days ago with ubuntu feisty pre-installed and i can't watch a video; I'm not ready for the all the hard work just yet, I want a bit of straightforward pleasure first... so... I was thinking of installing dapper (a copy of which i have); but would this mean that, after an install, i could immediately use my dvd drives to burn iso, watch dvds and stuff? bc frankly, i just haven't got the energy to stuff around trying to tweak the drives; i just want them to be mounted during the install... coz otherwise, if i was still stuck with drives i
[SLUG] ubuntu fiesty printing
Printing works fine on boxes upgraded to feisty but machine reinstalled with fiesty from alternate cd after a change of motherboard and processor wont install printer. Display issues stopped use of graphical installer as the windows were larger than the screen, so some buttons could not be clicked to progress. /Home partition is preserved from previous installs. Printer is HPLaserjet1320 network printer that has been simple to install in the past. Progress through installling printer with gnome-cups-manager but when click final apply no new printer icon is displayed. And this error when running sudo gnome-cups-manager from the command line: (gnome-cups-manager:7634): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1280 googling finds numerous instances of this from dapper, edgy and fiesty, a few fixes but none that work for me. There is a mention of the printer in gnome-cups-manager screens but it is not able to be activated on selection, or able to be removed. Is there a configuration file that I could edit to remove and restart? cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] disk full
Ubuntu fiesty get error message that disk is full, /. but I can't find the files where the content is in /. Home and tmp are separate partitions, as is everything mounted on /media. Computer still working reasonably. Below are output of df and du. cheers Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 25G 24G 0 100% / varrun 1009M 96K 1009M 1% /var/run varlock 1009M 0 1009M 0% /var/lock procbususb 1009M 212K 1009M 1% /proc/bus/usb udev 1009M 212K 1009M 1% /dev devshm 1009M 0 1009M 0% /dev/shm lrm 1009M 33M 976M 4% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdc3 102G 48G 54G 48% /home /dev/sdb1 59G 5.2G 54G 9% /media/WindowsNTFS /dev/sda5 59G 20G 39G 34% /media/sde5 /dev/sda6 79G 23G 57G 29% /media/sde6 /dev/sdc4 29G 129M 28G 1% /tmp /dev/sde1 294G 94G 186G 34% /media/backup/linux /dev/sdd1 294G 102G 177G 37% /media/backup/windows [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ sudo du -h --max-depth=2 |grep G Password: 33G ./home/lisa 15G ./home/ken 48G ./home 195G./media/backup 5.1G./media/WindowsNTFS 23G ./media/sde6 20G ./media/sde5 243G./media 1.3G./usr/lib 1.6G./usr/share 3.3G./usr 295G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/$ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] DVD drive not working with ubuntu]
vlc and oggle worked where others didn't for me Ken michael fitzgerald wrote: Ken, i've got these packets correctly installed and still when i try to run a player like totem or mplayer i get: messages to the effect that i need a plugin to play a video, without it stipulating, in either case, just what plug in is needed... thx kindly for taking the time to help, rufus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Joining and a Question
Hi David Options, cheque or money order via post, or direct deposit works, you would just need to deposit in SLUG A/C and send me the details via email or post; date, amount, location, your name and address. I would then wait for the bank statement showing it and when that arrives send off reciept and card. Membership is currently only $25 p.a., or $15 p.a. for for students, unemployed people and healthcare card holders and entitles you to free or ultra low cost entry to all SLUG activities. Voting rights under the SLUG Inc. articles of association can only be pledged by current financial members. So for you $15. Bank details; Commonwealth bank A/C SLUG, Sydney Linux Users Group Incorporated, BSB 062005 A/C 10496399 Mail; SLUG PO Box Q811 QVB, NSW 1230 reguards Ken SLUG treasurer David Bowskill wrote: Dear Slug, I am a retired TAFE teacher (and Electronics Engineer) living at Wentworth Falls in the Blue Mountains. As I am no longer employed, would the annual subscription for me be $15 ? A question - does there exist an open source pdf editor/writer for Linux ? I am presently using Xandros for my every day activities and such a editor/writer would be useful. Searches of various sites have yielded no joy in this regard. Thanks David Bowskill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] svg to png rendering
xfig worked OK for me Ken ashley maher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anybody know of a reliable svg=png renderer? I tried inkscape, the png image was unusable (no details) I tried the svg plugin for GIMP to import then save as png, image had no detail. I tried rsvg-convert, again the resulting png had no detail. I tried xarasvgfilterui, again no luck Yet the svg in question looks fine in inkscape and GIMP. So there can't be to much wrong with the file itself. Ideas, thoughts and suggestions great fully received. Regards, Ashley -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGW7s3H2lEwlE5p80RAoIsAJ93uCtSSqsSTIlxies8k9od/WmRjQCfdhnY uKZAYzS1d7aAEPsvmEn2CGE= =bRHf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] I'd like to know...
P. G. Schmitt wrote: Looking at installing for the first time. The drive is currently NTFS. Will Linux install to this or do I need to redo it as FAT(32)? Will Linux read NTFS formatted partitions? Thanks, Paul. If you want to keep windows and have a desktop,then the simplest is to install another drive. then there is no danger to your existing install. Make backups, especially if you have to repartition the only drive on a laptop. Partition the drive and format with ext3 for Linux (whatever your partitioning requirements are, but a separate /home partition is good for a home user), with another partition formatted as fat32 for data sharing between windows and Linux. Linux reads and writes to fat32 Linux reads ntfs but write is not good (experimental) Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] USB mounting now fails
I found this that sometimes fixes my USB memory stick. It lives in a file on my desktop and I cut and paste it into a terminal to get a module loaded that has been unloaded for some reason. #if usb disk doesnt work try this command in terminal. $sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd Ken Geoffrey Cowling wrote: I would be very grateful if someone could help me on this. I know it is not at the level usual in this forum, but I have tried everywhere I can online, and the the same problem is ascribed to 2.6 ker5nels--and I have sarge. And besides it is a case of stopped working and not never worked. mounting /dev/sda1 /... worked until now. Now it does not, and with attaching a mass storage device I get usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=1 (error=-110 until I remove it: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=63 (error=-110 Attempting to mount gets mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device Might it be a hardware failure? USB Keys still work under (shudder) Windows. Sorry to butt in, but I would be very grateful for any suggestions. (The technician I take it too is bewildered by Linux). Geoffrey Cowling -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ruby-on-Rails talk - interest?
+1 cheers Ken Taryn East wrote: Would there be any interest in me running an Introduction to Ruby on Rails talk at SLUG? If so - do you have any questions you'd like me to research ahead of time? Cheers, Taryn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] On fitting an internal hard drive
Michael Lake wrote: William Bennett wrote: I have the opportunity to a) upgrade to Fedora 5 and b) buy a Seagate 160MB internal hard drive, hopefully to facilitate the Fedora. It's a Fujitsu S Series Lifebook. I've not done this before. Would the new hard drive fit the laptop and would it give the BIOS a hard time? Make sure you can physically do an install of the drive at home. Do you have the tools to undo little screws with special heads, what other parts of the laptop need to be disassembled to install the hard drive etc. When the screen on my Ti PowerBook broke I found a site on the web that listed all the special tools I would need like star screwdrivers and the actual procedure and I could see that it wasn't going to be easy at all. I would have had to disassemble the entire laptop to get a new screen installed. Mike Hard drives usually are not so bad, but finding a illustrated howto is good for finding out about the hidden screw there usually is Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
here is help I recieved with this Ken Ken, I think that I have found the problem with your display. When you logged in as root you lost the authorization for the display. The long version can be found on this page... https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/l-lpic1110/section4.html You need to log in though. So here is an excerpt from that page. Good luck cheers Exporting a display An X display is known by a name of the form hostname:displaynumber.screennumber. For Linux running on a workstation such as a PC, there is typically only one display with a single screen. In this case, the displayname may be, and usually is, omitted so the display is known as :0.0. The DISPLAY environment variable is usually set to the display name., so you can display it using the command echo $DISPLAY. Depending on your system, this variable may or may not be set if you use su - to switch to another user. In such a case, you may need to set and export the DISPLAY as shown in Listing 25. In this listing you see an attempt to start the xclock application after switching to root, but the attempt fails because the DISPLAY environment variable is not set. Even if the DISPLAY variable is set, you still may not be able to use the display, as you will also need authorization to do so. Listing 25. Attempting to start xclock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ whoami ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ echo $DISPLAY :0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ su - Password: lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY lyrebird:~ # xclock Error: Can't open display: lyrebird:~ # export DISPLAY=:0.0 lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY :0.0 lyrebird:~ # xclock Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0.0 lyrebird:~ # export XAUTHORITY=~ian/.Xauthority lyrebird:~ # xclock lyrebird:~ # ls -l ~ian/.Xauthority -rw--- 1 ian users 206 Feb 18 16:20 /home/ian/.Xauthority Let's take a look at what is going on here. In this case, the user ian logged in to the system and his DISPLAY environment was set to :0.0 as we expect. When user ian switched to user root, the DISPLAY environment variable was not set, and an attempt to start xclock failed because the application did not know what display to use. So the substituted user, root, set the DISPLAY environment variable, and exported it so that it would be available to other shells that might be started from this terminal window. Note that setting and exporting an environment variable does not use the leading $ sign, while displaying or otherwise using the value does. Note too, that if the su command had omitted the - (minus) sign, the DISPLAY environment variable would have been set as it had been for user ian. Nevertheless, even with the environment variable set, xclock still failed. The reason for the second failure lies in the client/server nature of X. Although root is running in a window on the one and only display on this system, the display is actually owned by the user who logged in originally, ian in this case. Let's take a look at X authorization. Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running Xubuntu. 1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh 2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' Works great with the Ubuntu machine Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display) I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any difference. Can anyone help? Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the two machines. Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X misty emacs ... emacs: standard input is not a tty I think the original problem lies elsewhere - that's an expected error, see the SSH manpage regarding tty / pty allocation and the -t option. It fails with all programs. The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 ** Ubuntu machine where everything works - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY ** Xubuntu machine where nothing works [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines. I don't know how DISPLAY gets set -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GUI batch renaming and renumbering tool
by browsing I meant looking for things that I did not know what I wanted , having a list of things in my head, but if something sounded like it might solve a problem that I had that wasn't on the list then I would check it out too. Finding the things that I didnt know that I needed. any searching tool is goal directed, which is excellent for stuff you know of, but wont lead you into what you don't already know. Ken Amos Shapira wrote: On 21/01/07, Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats often the hard bit, finding programes that do what you want. I browsed the applications--add/remove programes to find some which wasnt too bad, but browsing Synaptic, while finding some useful looking candidates for trying out does take too long with 20,000 packages. Quite right (about browsing package lists). That's what apt-cache search was invented for ...:^) Also, at least in Aptitude, I've just found the View-New Debtags Browser which allows browsing by debian tags. I'm not sure how much I like it but maybe it's easier than ara or the other debian-archive command line query tools. For now, apt-cache search (and consequentially apt-cache show) is by far my most prefered method for finding the right tools. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GUI batch renaming and renumbering tool
Thats often the hard bit, finding programes that do what you want. I browsed the applications--add/remove programes to find some which wasnt too bad, but browsing Synaptic, while finding some useful looking candidates for trying out does take too long with 20,000 packages. Ken elliott-brennan wrote: Hey Ken, Thanks for that. I had absolutely no idea. Never heard of it! I've just installed it to check it out. Again, thanks. Regards, Patrick Ken Wilson wrote: there is also prefixsuffix and thunar bulk rename in the ubuntu repositories Ken elliott-brennan wrote: ...in Digikam. 'tools Batch processes Rename Images' ...allows you to choose the name you want and the number you wish to start renumbering from. For all the GUI girls and guys out there (unless I'm the ONLY one :))) One of the many cool and impressive features of Digikam! Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Partitioning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi This is driving me up the wossname wall. Any suggestions? Was true for dapper and is true for edgy: I don't like and won't use the default partitioning. On most of my systems it will be (1) 10G /, (2) 1G swap, (3) rest /home To re-install a different distro etc just blot out /. Boot CD. Choose install. Manually partition. [Forward] /\ Warning No root partition. Stuck here. -- Any blind toad on a rainy day can read: / /dev/hda1 Any 'cheats' to say proceed anyway? So far my only solution has been multiple tries, sometimes making entries /home /dev/hda3 swap/dev/hda2 / /dev/hda1 or swapping the order hda1, hda2, hda3 some times deleting hda1 then re-creating it works. THis works but it is not entirely obvious, and I have had periods of stuffing around looking for the way, and next time memory is fuzzy enough that I take a few retrys. You have to know your existing partitions because the installers suggestions for /home etc may be different to what is on the disk and then correct it. This could be done in a more obvious way. Ken Typical install 30min + 45min fart-arsing around to NOT get 'no root partition'. Of course, he bemoaned glumly, you let the installer choose partitions automatically and all is well except the /home you were trying to keep is toast. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GUI batch renaming and renumbering tool
there is also prefixsuffix and thunar bulk rename in the ubuntu repositories Ken elliott-brennan wrote: Hi all, Okay, I know some posted a command-line 'how to batch rename/number' some time ago, but I thought I'd post something I just found in Digikam. If you select the photos you wish to rename and/or renumber, you can choose: 'tools Batch processes Rename Images' and this allows you to choose the name you want and the number you wish to start renumbering from. For all the GUI girls and guys out there (unless I'm the ONLY one :))) One of the many cool and impressive features of Digikam! Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] LPIC-1
Having just sat lpi 101 and 102 exams and passed both after doing Geoffrey Robinsons lpi 101 course at Granville TAFE, reading 4 books and doing a whole pile of exam questions in those books and online and some of the exercises in the books, I dont feel like I know much at all. Most SLUG questions and presentations are above my head. I felt like I had a no better than 20% chance of passing both exams beforehand, and after the exam I did not feel that I had been lucky with just the right questions coming out of the pool that I could answer. I passed with a comfortable margin. Medical multiple guess exams are way more difficult than LPI multiple guess questions. Am I just good at exam technique, or would I be a useful employee? Theoretical question as I have other work, I have 24 years broadbased experience in medicine, and it is unlikely for the public health system to run out of need for experienced people in Sydney let alone the bush, in my working lifetime. That experience gets me a higher salary, so moving to IT would take me back to new grad level. My experience with helping Lisa as a Linux novice who is a non technical artist who does not read book manuals let alone man pages but has some high level graphical manipulation, sound , picture and movie requirements in addition to text, email, browsing and website requirements, and only finding answers that she can use some of the time. This is usually a long slow process, certainly not at commercial pace. Maybe I am forgetting what I was like as an intern, but I have contact with interns on most days at work so unlikely. As the junior in an IT dept I would probably be just implementing others policy in a more repetitive and therefore efficient way, so would not receive, or would hand up more difficult questions. Most programming seems to be operating at a very inspired level, that I can barely even comprehend, despite being a very mathematical person at HSC level, but not taking it further. Have I just been cocooned in a high achieving workspace? Are the LPI 101 and 102 exams and LPIC-1 set lower than the stated position of entry level Linux administration skills and to extend themselves beyond being a user or help desk operator? Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Computer keeps turning itself off.
Is the heat sink properly seated on the processor? I removed a heatsink to clean the blanket of fluff the fan had forced in, then replaced it but had not locked down all the catches properly. It ran for a while then just shut down like the plug was pulled. Restart immediately and it would shut down immediately, restart next day and it would run for 40minutes the first time, the 2 minutes after an immediate restart. Once I had the catches all secured properly it worked again. Ken Adelle Hartley wrote: Carlo Sogono wrote: My first question would be: Does it just switch off or do you see some sort of shutdown sequence? My money's on cooling if it just switches off. That seems to be the widespread consensus, and it does just switch off. The amount of time between being switched on and switching itself off ranges from minutes to hours. It's a P3, and isn't supposed to need a fan. The main fan is working though. Adelle. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] recommended ip phone for experimenting with Asterisk?
An ATA lets u use existing telephones, if you have some that you currently like. For a single line in house something like the sipura 3000 is simple and small and easy Ken Peter Hardy wrote: Sonia Hamilton wrote: What are people's recommendations for an ip phone for experimenting with Asterisk? The book I'm reading (OReilly's Switching to VoIP) talks about a Grandstream Budgetone - what's an Australian equivalent? What about a recommended PCI card so Asterisk can communicate with the POTS? The book mentions Digium X100P. I know I don't need both; I want to experiment. I attended the SLUG talk on VoIP - back then a lot of it didn't make sense so I didn't take notes :-) You've got a few options here. - A softphone. Runs on your PC, uses SIP to talk to Asterisk. ekiga and linphone are great for this. - An analogue telephony adaptor (ATA). A little box you plug in to your LAN and lets you connect a regular analogue handset to your voip system. Again, uses SIP to talk to Asterisk. I use a Sipura SP2000 with a cheap cordless phone at home, and it works great. - A Digium PCI card. The X100P you mentioned only seems to have an FXO port, but you can get models with both FXO and FXS ports - they'll let you connect to the POTS network as well as plug in one or two analogue handsets. - An IP telephone. Again, most use the SIP protocol, but there's one or two that are starting to come out that understand IAX. I'll agree with others and say the Grandstreams are a bit dinky. But I don't have any recommendations about *good* IP handsets. :-) If you're just experimenting, I'd say stick to a softphone until you get everything sorted out. After that, well, there's not too much difference in price between an ATA and an IP handset, and the feature set is much the same unless you throw buckets of money at an IP phone (my knowledge here is a good six months out of date, though, so things might be different). Finally, O'Reilly's Asterisk: The Future of Telephony is an awesome book on how to drive asterisk, and it's under a creative commons licence - narf a copy from http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk:+The+Future+of+Telephony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FoIP (was: Re: [SLUG] Modem/Router recommendations please.)
Fax does not go well on VOIP, to do with VOIP sending discrete packets and suppressing silences, where a fax is one great big block of data, not designed to be broken up. Ken Penedo wrote: On 31/12/06, DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention the VoIP ports included, and the ability to run 3-DES VPN tunnels to work. Speaking of VoIP - does anyone know whether there is ANY possibility to connect a simple FAX machine to an IP network and send/receive faxes with other non-IP fax machines? I currently own a Sipura SPA-3000 ATA and right after I bought it I heard that a later Sipura model has Fax port, which I can't understand what it means. Thanks, --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Gnome WeatherApplet
I just followed the instructions and it worked for me. ubuntu/gnome/click on upper task bar and sellect add to pannel weather report and point it at the given url I often use that radar so it is a quick way there Ken charles wrote: If I could ask, what weather applet allows you to see the radar map like this? I would love to know.. I use desklets, which only offer very limited information (if you can get it working at all)... thanks.. Charles. John wrote: Thanks John. It helps if you use the right url :-) J On 12/13/06, John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:03:40 +1100, John wrote: Is there a reason why I cannot get the BoM radar map to show in the Gnome WeatherApplet after I input the url into :preferences:general:? It works for me. The URL I'm using is: http://mirror.bom.gov.au/radar/IDR033.gif (for Sydney). Cheers, John -- Minis on the other hand are just the wrong size. Too small to work on directly and too large to put upside down on the workbench. -- Craig 'Stevo' Stephenson -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Video: DET considers Linux on the desktop
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Howard Lowndes wrote: The NSW Department of Education and Training (DET) may increase the penetration of Linux on its 165,000 desktop fleet because open source is clearly an industry trend. Because it's trendy? Yeesh! I couldn't think of a WORSE reason to make a specific technology decision. That's worse than nobody ever got sacked for choosing... (IBM/MS/Java). But this is how many people make decisions in areas that they are not knowledgeable in. Once x is trendy then a generic manager will listen to advice suggesting x, before that many will not move outside known/safe. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux for Seniors
Hi Lynton There is a thread on the SLUG mailing list about supporting new users where various options and opinions were canvassed at the moment. Re: [SLUG] ethical question - teach beginner doze or linux? From the SLUG mail archives, here is where the thread starts and you can follow it through with next in thread link at the bottom of page. http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2006/12/msg00026.html. Ken L G Bradford wrote: Sydney Linux User Group, We need some advice and perhaps help! Our Computer club for seniors is based in the Anglican Retirement Villages at Castle Hill with about 200 members at this site. We often refurbish old computers for those of limited means and have considered using a Linux OS and Open Source applications to reduce the cost. I am personally a great fan of OpenOffice and Gimp (MS Windows versions). Over several years I have tried to come to grips with various Linux distros, bought several copious volumes and distros of Mandrake, Debian and others. Although I have written programs in old DOS formats and built computers the hard way, back in the 80s, I still have not been able to come to grips with Linux. I had a quick go at Knoppix recently, which again prompted me to consider Linux once more. Would there be one of your members in the general Castle Hill area I could make contact with for advice? Lynton Bradford Ph 20 9680 9637 Mob 0404 466 461 9 Edgewood Avenue, Warrina Village, Castle Hill 2154 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ethical question - teach beginner doze or linux?
As a non technical user, who has managed to teach myself linux, then done 4 TAFE courses of 4 hours per week X 18 weeks each over the past year, and a whole lot of reading and is now attempting to support a very non technical partner, there will be many hurdles than do not just work. Currently Lisa's cd burning does not work, but mine does; edgy, gnomebaker; no idea why; so she has dual booted back to windoze cause it does what she needs. Dual booting is not a big issue and give a way out. I started using linux to avoid some endless upgrade requirements, and email viruses which it has been good for. I currently dont use windoze, but Lisa needs it every now and then. Ken Sonia Hamilton wrote: Here's an ethical question for you. I have a middle aged friend who wants to learn computers; he's never used computers before (he's a builder). In exchange for some work he's doing for me, I'm going to install everything, get him connected to the net and teach him how to do email, use the internet, write basic documents, and whatever else comes up (eg playing music, watching videos). As a builder he also wants to be able to submit documents to councils - I haven't been able to pin down the format required by councils yet. Do I install and teach him 'doze/M$ Office or Ubuntu? Or, setup dual boot and teach him both? Or, install Ubuntu and Cross Over office? The Linux lover and advocate in me says Linux, of course, but is that ethical? What I mean is that some time in the future I mightn't be around to help him, then he'll be at the tender mercies of other friends, PC shops, ISP phone support, etc, who probably won't know Linux. If he goes to an internet cafe or reads a newspaper article, he'll also be stuck in a 'doze world. I can point him at SLUG, but is that really helping him? On the other hand, with Linux he'll get everything extra for free, won't have to learn about nagware/cracks, won't be stuck in the upgrade treadmill, won't have virus problems, and generally have less problems... I'm not trolling here - this is a serious question - imagine if you were in the same situation with a friend/parent, and weren't going to be around for ever to help them. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Course
I have done some of the courses that Geoffrey Robinson runs at Granville Tafe and find them useful. Prices are cheap. You wont find info on them via the TAFE website as they undercut the cost of some other TAFE courses but there are details here; http://www.gonzo.edu.au/moodle/ Ken Michael Catanzariti wrote: Hey Guys, I am looking to under take a Linux course to get started I have used it before but I am looking at going to tafe to start from scratch can you recommended a course and tafe. I am located in Sydney around the Fairfield area. Thankyou, Michael Catanzariti Customer Service / Systems engineer Pure Commerce p: +61-2-9209 4709 f: +61-2-9475 0648 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Connecting to the Internet
Stephen Black wrote: I have installed Suse Linux on my new computer with a Realtek RTL8111B ethernet controler. I have not had any success in connecting to the net and would like to know if there is a way to test my ethernet port to see if it is compatable with the OS (which seems likely as SUSE supports 5 other similar chipsets but mine is not mentioned) I don't yet have a broadband account but I have noticed that the phone line will connect to the ethernet port (RJ45) and I was wondering if I could use the port to dial into the internet as a temporary measure untill I get some broadband action happening a modem would give you acess to the phone system, then you would need a dialup account with an isp. If you are about to get a broadband account, then getting a modem and a dialup account for a short period is probably a waste of effort, time and money. Ken PS If anybody feels they would like to reccomend a copper free broadband provider / plan I would be happy to check it out -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Backing up to dvd
I have found a couple of GUI backup programs; grsync which is a graphical front end to rsync http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/ sbackup which is a graphical front end to cron and tar http://sbackup.sourceforge.net/HomePage which are both available from the ubuntu repositories. Both are simple to set up for a desktop and worked for me as ways of simply backing up a desktop to another disk on the same machine, or a detachable usb disc. Both do not implement the full set of features of the back end programs, but do enough to be useful. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] LPI exams including FREE level 3 Beta exam and a donation to SLUG
Geoffrey Robinson will be organising LPI exams in November at Granville TAFE. These will include the LPIC 101 Examination LPIC 102 Examination LPIC 201 Examination LPIC 202 Examination LPIC 301 LDAP Beta Examination LPIC 302 SAMBA Beta Examination $85 per exam for 101-2, and 201-2. FREE for level 3 Beta 301-2 and if there are enough Beta testers then there is a $500 donation to SLUG to be used for subsidising LPI training for SLUG members. Aiming for 20. Prerequisite for level 301-2 Beta is LPI 101-2. Once formally offered it will cost $ and prerequisite will be LPI 101-2 and LPI 201-2. Get in now to save, to help LPI road test its next level exams, to have your skills recognised. There will be a LPIC Exam Lab held on the 27th November 2006 at Granville TAFE. Further information at: http://www.gonzo.org.au/moodle/mod/choice/view.php?id=3706 Geoffrey can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Ph 0427802563 cheers Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Alvin Oga, Linux consulting services Pty Ltd
Australian Securities and Investments Commission is sending mail to the SLUG Mailbox at POBox Q811 QVB NSW 1230. re Alvin Oga who does not live at the address they have recorded and Linux Consulting Pty Ltd who does not occupy the registered office they have recorded. Letter is threatening conviction for not updating ASIC database withiin 28 days of moving and talks of fines of $3k to $6k. Alvin contact me and I will forward you the letter, no contact and it goes back to ASIC Ken SLUG treasurer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html