[SLUG] Sources for Debian Sid (stable)
What entry do people have in their /etc/apt/sources.list for debian
stable(sid)?
I am trying to upgrade/? from woody to sid and changing stable to
unstable produced a pile of error messages about package lists.
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Re: [SLUG] What is a race condition?
Ben Donohue wrote:
Hi Slugs,
I have a RH box that once a week the hard disk goes into accessing
continually and won't stop till I literally pull the plug.
What was running at the time?
Logs?
Inital thoughts sounds like a possible locatedb update.
HW specs (Hd size, %full, ram, swaP).
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Re: [SLUG] [computerbank] Weekend Move Update
Dan Treacy wrote:
Afternoon Sluggers,
Just an update on ComputerBank Sydney's move this weekend.
If you are available for Sunday, you assistance would be greatly
accepted. 9am at Seven Hills, later at Casula.
There is a stack of stuff still to be loaded and moved.
Details and updates about the weekend are available at
http://www.cbnsw.org.au
I ask everyone to please consider taking a few hours out this weekend to
lend a hand. Those few hours will help the project immeasurably.
If you are considering coming please register on the CBNSW site
mentioned above.
Jumping in as Dan hasn't yet
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Re: [SLUG] Exhibitors at Education Expo
Simon wrote:
My understanding is that Curriculums need approval as well.
These basically come from the standards or whatever it is called.
Apparently there are binders of them all that you can buy.
Bit vague, but is on s.bt
Okay, found it. The Australian National Training Authority puts out
outlines of Competency. I have one
BSBCMN213A Produce simple wordprocessed documents
3 elements 1 use safe work practices(3), 2 Confirm document
requirments(2) 3 Produce documents(6)
{n} is the number of performance criteria to be met for each
and it goes on for another five pages of Range statement (3 pages 12
items), Evidence guide (1.5 pages, the stuff you collect to show you
gave the training required to keep your arse safe) and 0.5 pages on Key
Competency Levels.
You basically combine a number of these to make up your certificate.
In short, once you get your head around the paperwork, you can start.
The evidence guide (final project?) for my Cert Iv took as long as the
course (5 days).
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Re: [SLUG] Recommending a Keyspan USB-Serial adapter
Simon Wong wrote:
Just thought I'd drop a line to recommend a USB to Serial adaptor
What drivers are you using?
I acquired some yum cha USB to serial cables before, but have not yet
fiddled with them.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Wireless
Howard Lowndes wrote:
Much the same effect as the colorbond fence between myself and my
neighbours place - say Faraday cage.
If this is their WAP, then the next time they have problem, suggest
putting it on a shelf high in the room {:-)
I actually have a w1nd0ws hack, spit, cough splutter boxen currently
enjoying the benefits of such a location over a similar fence {:-).
Sigh, I must be a softy as I've been slowly reeling in Junior from next
door that it is HIS WAP I've hacked[1] (someone must have reset the
boxen and not put in the admin and encryption this time).
[1] as in fired up the lappy and looked at the signals I can see and
tried them all. One very weak (my WAP is broken atm), one very strong.
Then boxen says it is a NUTCASE. Oh, look up manual online for Nutcase
and try default login. Bingo. sigh and I was looking forward to maybe a
little challenge.
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Re: [SLUG] Linux looks to ############# for exposure
Terry Collins wrote: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/03/31/862521987.html So, was it just these two lame April Fools Day jokes this year, or did anyone find another one and not share it. P.S. to those who messaged, I do realise that it was White Rabbits day. And my that be the only message to juxtapose my name with erk!. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Exhibitors at Education Expo
Phil Scarratt wrote:
In any case, as you say, students are far more adaptable than staff
(generally of course).
In support of staff (experiences relate to NSW Dept Ed);
1) staff are now required to do more administrative work, hence less
time and energy to try out something.
2) whomever is the teacher supporting the computers in the school
doesn't get paid for it and rarely gets release time to deal with them.
3) It is ALL (compulsory MS tax out of their school budget) or MAC's.
4) The MS Tax is charged on EVERY computer in the school, hence there is
no money saving incentive to replace MS with FOSS/Linux.
5) Decisions are made by shiny arse public servants, not teachers at the
coal face.
6) There is a minor industry in people who make some money selling
software to teachers and this is written on MS junk and they fud up
at the slightest breeze
7) The company holding the support contract is not FOSS supportive.
As my wife was a teacher in the NSW Dept of Ed, I've looked at helping
introduce FOSS into schools a number of times. Each time I have decided
that I have far better things to do.
As far as educational software goes, it really is mickey mouse. None of
it does exactly what is (currently) seen as educationally best, but it
helps relieve teachers stress {:-). If you want to write classroom
software, you really need someone who can tell you exactly what they
need. Be prepared for a number of rewrites.
And as far as I am aware, the greatest use of computers in the primary
classrooms is for publishing, i.e. word processing and phamplets.
Someone who wants to dabble in this area with FOSS might consider making
a Live CD, especialy for simulations, demos, etc.
speaking of certificates and going back to something that was floated,
but died before.
If you want to offer certificates, consider setting up a Registered
Training Organisation. Then you can offer Cert I, Cert II, etc course,
but you do need Cert IV qualified trainers.
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Re: [SLUG] Exhibitors at Education Expo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 09:53:56AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
4) The MS Tax is charged on EVERY computer in the school, hence there is
no money saving incentive to replace MS with FOSS/Linux.
I thought that was illegal...
...how do they attempt to enforce this?
It was either a flat or stepped fee based on the number of computers
they knew that your school had. NSW Public schools basically get all
their hardware through the department.
So there was no incentive for say by replacing MS with FOSS on X
computers I can save $Y.
As my wife was a teacher in the NSW Dept of Ed, I've looked at helping
introduce FOSS into schools a number of times. Each time I have decided
that I have far better things to do.
To be honest I found the same thing with UTS Engineering,
and you would think they are in a better position to understand
these things but their interest in taking risks is about zero.
Aaah, UTS Engineering. A wonderful place, where scoring in an academic
bun fight is more important that providing student education. I also
remember the Introductory C class where everyone who handed in a copy of
last years lab experiment passed, but those who pointed out that it was
impossible to actually run the programm on the computers were failed.
Something about adding a network card with conflicting interrupts.
Someone who wants to dabble in this area with FOSS might consider making
a Live CD, especialy for simulations, demos, etc.
Or possibly start an online service for teachers since one thing
that schools are doing right is providing lots of Internet access.
Then you can use Linux under the hood and maybe encourage them to
download a bit of open-source on the side, gradually get them into
open office and gimp. Maybe get them interested in buying a server
with the same online services for their internal use which will
run faster (less users and over ethernet LAN).
I'd be game to get involved in that one if someone wants to collaborate.
If you want to offer certificates, consider setting up a Registered
Training Organisation. Then you can offer Cert I, Cert II, etc course,
but you do need Cert IV qualified trainers.
You got any links to explanation of how this process works?
How does the first Cert IV get created in a new subject?
- Tel ( http://bespoke.homelinux.net/ )
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Re: [SLUG] Exhibitors at Education Expo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you want to offer certificates, consider setting up a Registered
Training Organisation. Then you can offer Cert I, Cert II, etc course,
but you do need Cert IV qualified trainers.
You got any links to explanation of how this process works?
How does the first Cert IV get created in a new subject?
AFAIUI under the new national training/qualification format basically
any registered training organisation can provide certificates.
These certificates have to be training in certain skills as laid down
in the standards.
The courses need to be delivered by a qualified trainer, which is
basically you need a Certificate IV in Assessment and Workplace
Training, no matter what your other qualifications/industry experience.
It is just a piece of paper in Adult training as opposed to schools
So, if you can set up an RTO and have CIV trainers, then your
certificates are as good as anyone elses.
I think the bug bear is the RTO steps. Of course, in involves a hefty
insurance package as well.
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Re: [SLUG] [computerbank] ComputerBank Sydney Relocation Sat 16th Sun 17th April
Dan Treacy wrote:
Casula
Casula Powerhouse
1 Casula Rd
Casula
(Right alongside Casula train station)
Nice setting, right on the river. Good place for a family picnic.
Absolutely lousy place to get to by train. check the timetable.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Wireless
Phil Scarratt wrote:
Whether it is at all practical is a totally different matter.
True. Financially it may turn out far better to just install multiple
WAP's.
Bingo
I am looking at installing a network into a large warehouse/factory floor.
Wireless is by far the most ideal method
The prolem with multiple WAPS is that you may end up with a very
expensive wiring exercise anyway.
May I suggest you contact companies with experience in installing this
sort of system, ask them for their solution and a quote. In the long
term, it may save you far more money than years of pissing around trying
to make it work.
I had someone (off-list) suggest install a matrix of aerials (eg 4)
and run them all back to a header-amp with one output to the AP. Not
sure that would work, and may be overkill anyway.
Perhaps someone can correct me, but I understood from my physics that
four separate aerials all pumping out the same signal would cause
interference with each other.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [chat] Wireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One problem with the matrix of aerials idea is that the coaxial cable
that runs between them has to be low loss at GHz frequencies which is NOT
cheap cable so running cat-5 out to 4 individual base stations is going
to save money if the distances are long.
Running cable is running cable. As far as I am aware, the cost of
running cable is only marginally affected by the actual cost of the cable.
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[SLUG] Reordering groups on Thunderbird
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Re: [SLUG] Annodex
Jan Schmidt wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:01 +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
Some information on Annodex which we saw recently; this is a CSIRO
blurb:
http://www.ict.csiro.au/topic/Apr05.htm#video
Annodex is awesome technology -
Maybe!
The fine print is
1) for 512Mb ADSL lines,
2) It is alpha code,
3) requires glibc 2.3
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Re: [SLUG] Annodex
Peter Rundle wrote:
whilst running firefox 1.01 on Linux, nothing happens... :-(
locate glibc and note the version.
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[SLUG] Linux looks to Hilton for exposure
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/03/31/862521987.html
Linux looks to Hilton for exposure
By Sam Varghese
April 1, 2005
A new group set up to advance the cause of free and open source software
has decided to recruit socialite Paris Hilton into its ranks as a means
to gain more exposure.
The Open Source Development League said it was recruiting Ms Hilton
because it knew of nobody else who had managed to gain such a degree of
exposure despite having no apparent learning in this direction.
What she managed to do with that video was amazing. If that wasn't
enough, then there was the mobile phone address book episode, Jeremy
Bleats, the chief executive officer of the League, told a crowded media
conference on the banks of the Yarra in Melbourne early today.
Bleats said the only thing that was holding back Linux and other
software of the FOSS genre was a lack of exposure. People should be
aware of the breadth and scope of what FOSS has to offer and Ms Hilton
can definitely advance that objective, he said. She can expose things
like nobody else can.
He said the League had considered the merits of Pamela Denise Anderson -
said by many to be the most downloaded person on the internet - but had
finally decided in favour of Ms Hilton.
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It was more or less a two-horse race when it came to the question of
appointing an Exposure Executive, Bleats said. The horse with longer
legs finally won.
Bleats had a word of caution for journalists. Please do not confuse our
League with the Red-Headed League about which Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
wove a tale involving Sherlock Holmes, he said. I have to say this
because our Exposure Executive is, at the moment, a redhead.
In the US, the founder of the Free Software Foundation, Richard M.
Stallman, dismissed the League's move as a cheap stunt.
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Re: [SLUG] Print server
Phill wrote:
I am trying to setup a print server on a fedora 3 platform using
samba.
Windows xp sp2 correctly recognises the printer but a test document
does not get printed
The follwing ports are open on the firewall: 137:udp, 139:tcp, 445:tcp
smb.config printers section looks like this
[printers]
comment = All Printers
valid users = phill
path = /var/spool/samba #has read/write/execute permissions for
all users
browseable = no
public = no
printable = yes
Remove the restrictions on user, browseable and public and see what
happens.
What do your logs say?
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Re: [SLUG] Telnet-No route to host error
Romeo Chua wrote: So netstat -nr returns correct info. I have tried pinging from David to Goliath and vice versa with no problems. And it pinks both ways, good. My problem is that I can telnet from Goliath to David with no problems but when I telnet from David to Goliath, I get a No route to host error message. And are both systems running a server for telnet? Have you tried both after a reboot? Telnet allowed in both inetd? why not ssh? Warning this advice has been muddled by having to endure two nieces lacking volume control and the thought of choc-chip hot cross bunss - ugh!. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] this is strating to look like hardware
Ashley Maher wrote:
More external usb adventures.
err, are you trying to access something in an external USB hub?
If so, does it worked plugged into the mobo sockets?
Someone else has reported a problem with using usb devices in external
hubs.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Your message to slug awaits moderator approval
Ashley wrote:
Anyone have any idea why this is happening?
You used a naughty word/phrase according to the spam checker.
It happens to all/most/some of us occassionally.
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Re: [SLUG] Range of Wifi
Howard Lowndes wrote:
I am trying to get a wifi signal working between two BV houses about 20
m apart separated by a colourbond fence.
How far above the fence is line of sight?
I am 10' from my neighbours WiFi (mwuhahahaha), but I have to stand on
my desk and hold the laptop above my head to get it {:-(. The fence
between is 7'.
Actually, is in't that bad, but I do need it at least a foot above the
desk (his wireless adsl link is on a high shelf {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood
Lindsay Holmwood wrote:
(3) A person is not eligible to be appointed as public officer of an
incorporated association unless:
(a) the person has attained the age of 18 years
Umm, is that the requirement for the PUBLIC OFFICER of the inc. Assn?
Or the requirment for the committee?
Another area to check is the insurance policy. The insurer may
expect/require that all people are over 18 years and thus of legal age.
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Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!
Marek Wawrzyczny wrote:
It's actually not as bad... there are already international efforts to catch
these types of people, I believe the relatively recent arrests in Australia
were part of an international effort of agencies from Europe, Interpol,
etc...
No, nothing so wonderful. Sometimes constable plod just has to strike it
lucky and that was the case in the US. They found a list of credit card
details of people who had purchasesd from a site, then they just
informed other governments who raided the addresses connected with the
credit cards and found evidence to satisfy local courts.
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Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!
Michael Lake wrote:
...and what if the 15yr old model is entirely computer generated? I can
see that in the future the business ppl that cater to this 'market' will
start to use very advanced computer graphics to create 'kiddies'. I can
see them trying to get a ruling in a court that this is 'acceptable'.
You think I'm joking? Just wait and see.
In the same way that some singers would arive at the recording studio
with their highnotes on tape, so a similar situations is happening
with photographs in magazines.
Old news.
Mike you need to channel surf a bit more during ABC adds {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] how to open an eps file
Andrewd wrote:
As the title says, I have an eps file (for a logo). Any ideas on what I
need to open it with.
xv and/or gv
You most likely have gv, but I've never used Mandrake.
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Re: [SLUG] Deleting files created over a month ago
Peter Rundle wrote:
Terry Collins wrote:
find on one of the times(a,m,n,?) +30 - exec rm {}
Sorry Terry but that answer is worse than useless. Why? because no-one else
will
bother to try and answer my question as it appears you've already done so, yet
your glib off the cuff non-tested answer doesn't help at all.
Oh, I don't know. I'm sure someone will point out where it is wrong.
And I charge for tested answers. Your response reminded me why.
You got an answer because I use something similar to sort received spam
into monthly directories every so often, but I wasn't going to find the
piece of paper to copy it exactly.
I stated in my posting that I'd read the man page on find but the manual
listed
the options as always referring to the files last *accessed* time, but never
to
the files *creation* date.
-atime n
File was last accessed n*24 hours ago.
-ctime n
File's status was last changed n*24 hours ago.
-mtime n
File's data was last modified n*24 hours ago.
Which part of the file are you actually fiddling with?
Otherwise ls -1 some-file, then awk process the file and rm offending
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Re: [SLUG] Deleting files created over a month ago
Peter Rundle wrote:
As the heading says
Doing a man on find lists all the time based options which appear to be based
on
when the file was last accessed. I want to delete mail files from a junk
folder
on the server that were received over a month ago (cron job).
find on one of the times(a,m,n,?) +30 - exec rm {}
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Re: [SLUG] Hostile LANs
Howard Lowndes wrote:
3. Locked cases with no CD or floppy - how can I prevent USB drives
I would expand this idea and just put the whole lot into a locked tool
box. My local tool shop sells very economical tool boxen of all sizes.
So you could plonk the complete computer case into the boxen and lock it
up. Might need a few extension cables.
Can you take one tool boxen, a drill and a few tek/wood/whatever screws
and screw tool box to to wall with lid as door. Then just place computer
inside.
worst you are going to have to do is mount a few cooling fans, suck on
one side/bottom and blow on tother/top. You could probably even save on
the computer case if it is an all in one mobo (motherboard).
That way you could also lock up the patch panel, etc in one boxen.
Just 2c.
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Re: [SLUG] X11 modeline calculator?
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Ah. Yes, I remember the problem I had, now: not enough knowledge. :-)
Umm, {:-), have you read the Video-Timings(?)-HowTO (or RTFM politely).
It is a bit head turning.
My 2c, can your video card handle these modes?
Sorry for being so thick.
Naah, just don't try the readings or calcs after a party in the week
prior. {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Work For The Dole
Mary Gardiner wrote:
While it still seems like the volunteer possibility is far better than
WftD for this because people would choose it, there's possibly more
Newstart recipients with useful skills in the non-coding activities who
would benefit from the arrangement.
I detect a misunderstanding. Correct me if I am wrong.
AFAIK, all the mutual obligation activities (education, community, wftd,
etc) are available to Newstart (dole) recipients. Sometimes they just
have to be aware of the other options and push for them. Hint; I am told
the phrase who do I need to write the appeal to to be able to do
often motivates job network provider employeee to educate themselves.
{:-).
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Re: [SLUG] Work For The Dole
Adelle Hartley wrote:
Some additional background information.
Firstly, there are TWO organisations involved; Centrelink and DEWR (Dept
of Employment and Workplace Relations). Basically, for the first year,
the unemplored, etc get mucked around by Centrelink. After that, they
get screwed by DEWR, who pays Job Network Members to assist/hassle[1]
them, plus there are CWC (Community Work Coordinators, who provided WFD
(Work for The Dole) programs.
Work for the Dole is about helping job seekers improve their employment
prospects by providing opportunities for work experience. Communities are
involving job seekers in local projects providing facilities and services of
value to the community.
WFWD's are basically courses that are suppossed to upskills the
unemployed to enable them to get work, but commonly their stated purpose
is to install regularity, responsible attitude, etc, etc, etc. In short,
they are basically a shit fight. Very much underfunded and exploited by
the organisation running them.
It would be far better to step back and look at the Mutual Obligation
opportunities, which basically means that you have to do something for
so many hours to meet your mutual obligation. Under mutual obligation,
youcan do a whole pile of different activities, including self
education.
http://www.jobsearch.gov.au/ jobs comedy,
http://www.workplace.gov.au/
Actually, just try a google search on stuff like mutual obligation, etc,
etc.
Paka-Poo is a polite description.
Open source development sounds valuable to the community.
The main hurdle would be public liability insurance*.
I think you now have to look at $10 million public liability.
Basically, you don't want to enter the CWC, JNM, etc, shitfight. You
just want to have/establish a community organisation that has $10M pulic
liability, where people can go (login-logout?) and do some counted
hours to meet their mutual obligation hours. Basically, they have to do
8 hours/week average for it to be of any benefit.
If there's already an appropriate organisation that I can officially
volunteer for, then I would appreciate being pointed in the right
direction. If not, I would be interested in helping to start one (and
possibly being its first volunteer/participant).
Go back and look at the Mutual Obligation, especially self education,
then see if you can get to Granville TAFE and do one of Geoff's courses,
or to any TAFE and do any course. If you are getting Newstart, you just
need to rock up with your fortnightly form, complete the enrollment and
flash your fortnightly form along with your enrollment at the (PAYE ERE)
desk (no cash accepted) and you are in.
http://www.tafensw.edu.au/ and look under campuses and institutes to see
what your local TAFE offers. Be aware of that wonderful thing called
Statement of Attainment in some field or other that basically lets you
do any subject (provided you meet pre-recs) in the field, (if it isn't
tied to apprentice courses, etc). Research now, start telephoning on
Monday.
*The other hurdle would be reams of beaurecratic paper work as required by
Centrelink, but you could always get some work-for-the-dole person to take
care of that.
ROFL, um, basically 80% of WFD people don't want to be there, don't give
a rat's arse (to be exceedingly polite), spend most of their time
wasting your time, think it is fun to break everything, piss in the
coffee, think that their mum is stick picking up after them, etc
[1] After a while, it becomes clearer that the role of this system is to
breach unemployed people, etc so the government can take money off
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Re: [SLUG] Work For The Dole
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, Terry Collins wrote:
Adelle Hartley wrote:
When I was on the dole, I was teaching myself C++ and systems admin.
This was back in 1992-1993.
Now called newstart.
When interviewing for these courses at the CES,
CES is gone and it is now all privatised as Job Network provider.
If you want a course, you have to earn credits @ about $3/hour by
doing WFD activites, which are mostly the equivalent of painting rocks,
etc.
If a cheme that involved Linux/OSS/programming c had been there
when I was on the dole, my career would probably have been accelerated
even more than it was at the time, when no one had a clue about
computers, let alone *nix.
Umm, they don't now either. Course available included Fork Lift, First
Aid, Green Card, drivers licence, etc. Even basic MCSE is far, far too
expensive {:-).
However much I despise the Howard Govt and it's evil WFTD schemes,
OSS is better than painting rocks and cleaning dead animals out of sewers
or whatever other useless dead end tasks the unemployed have to
do to keep the govt's employment statistics appearing to be
better than they actually are...
You are now counted as employed if you do 1 hour or more work per
week.
As Matthew (sp?) said, WFD schemes are a major pain. Community Work
options are better way. You just need the money for public liability.
Something through ComputerBank would be easiest, but the problem is
having local actitivities.
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Re: [SLUG] No unix/linux knowledge but want to get started?
Mark O'Connor wrote:
Please tell me now if I am wasting my time but..
I have an old pentium 166Mhz , 64MB Ram, 40GB HD and I want to learn a bit
about Linux and set up a web server.
Yes, it will do it, but you might find it very slow for X.
Stay away from gnome. Suggest RH 7.1 say as a lighter load.
My web and mail server run on a similar machine.
2) Is there a good gui for debian that will not grind my machine to a halt
twm
an oldie but goodie. Anything else will glaciate.
apt-cache search twm
apt-get install twm
3) Any suggestions for reliable and lite web and mailserver software
To get started, just apache and learn the basics and basic web pages.
Then if the machine can handle it, other add-ons for apache.
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Re: [SLUG] Dell GX1 Optiplex Wont boot
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Re: [SLUG] Find weirdo
Michael Fox wrote:
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Can someone explain this?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print %p
Does this mean you have some saved spam?
Err yes. Just over 3gb. Message size mostly 1-5K.
Mostly boings where my domain was used as a false sender.
Any chance of organising you to inject that back to a
email address of mine for some spam filter testing.
Err, how do you want it?
How much?
How fast?
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Re: [SLUG] Production Ready software on Linux
James Gray wrote:
Hi All,
The sales guys have asked me a question. What commercially recognisable
software is available AND supported on Linux.
I hope you didn't waste your time even considering that question.
Oh wait, you've posted here. Bad call.
Try asking them why, what, who, how, when ,etc.
i.e. get some real working parameters and find out what they really
want.
Oh and how much they are prepared to pay.
Only then can you produce meaningful answers.
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[SLUG] Find weirdo
Can someone explain this?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print %p
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print `%p'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print `%p' \;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print `%p' ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print '%p' ;
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$ find /spam -name smtpdAB*
-print '%p' \;
find: paths must precede expression
Usage: find [path...] [expression]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/spam-hold/spam-hold$
It is one of those occassional jobs I run and as far as I can understand
it, something must have changed because what I've written down on paper
is no longer working.
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[SLUG] Windows on Linux
Hi Folks
Just checking applications for folks making the transistion.
Looking for apps/? that provide/emulate ms windows on Linux.
I am aware of VMWare[1], Win4Lin and Wine. Any others?
The particular application is written in visual basic if anyone has
relevant experiences/gotchas they would like to pass on.
[1] Yes, I am aware that WMWare is not in the same class as the other
two.
The big picture is that I've been asked to investigate setting up a
laptop for demos that will show this particular application crunching
data from a database and the web portal to load and retrieve converted
data.
So, I can either put LAMP ( others) onto xp/w2k/w2k3, or put this
application into an emulation on Linux.
And, any recommendations on brands/models (grunty) of laptops to look at
(i.e. minimal driver fiddles)?
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Re: [SLUG] Acroread in Linux VERY UGLY - can the 'face' be changed?
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
Hi all,
The acroreader in Linux is so ugly. The grey interface and left-handed
cursor (leave me alone, I've nothing against left-handed people - :)
Funny, but I have no problem dealing with left or right {:-).
Anyway, there is also xpdf and ghostview(gs) or something else that
opens pdfs. The first is rather kludgy for printing (postscript file),
the second is better.
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Re: [SLUG] Apple Multiscan 1705 - anyone used it with a Linux box?
I've been offered a 17 Apple Multiscan 1705 (in v.good condition) for
Anyone have any experience/information/knowledge?
You would want to know the resolution and scan rate settings of the
monitor beforehand and be confident in X configuration (scan rates,
resolution, etc)
If this is coming off and OSX box, get the seller to open the display
settings and it will show you all the settings that the screen will
opperate on.
Then the questions is whether your display card will handle those
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FYI. Live install CDs.
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Re: [SLUG] calendar app -- terminal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for a calendar app that runs in an xterm window, I am aware of
ical, are there any others that I should be aware of?
cal
cal 2005
cal 06 2005
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[SLUG] Latex: Parbox through latex2rtf
I have recently found out that my To and From details/address in
correspondence are not being converted into RTF when I used latex2rtf.
I was using /parbox[]{} /hfill /parbox[]{} and latex2rtf just
completely ignores /parbox. No error, zilch. So it escaped my attention
until now.
I'm looking for suggestions for alternative ways of providing To From
on opposite sides of the page at the same level.
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Re: [SLUG] Bootup message display
Rod Butcher wrote:
Sluggers, can you tell me how I can step thru the messages when I boot
up.. i.e. thru Lilo and then the initial kernel startup... they normally
flash by too fast for me to read, and I need to know what they are on a
successful boot so I can compare them with the messages I get when I try
to boot 2.6.9 (which is failing).
Step through, no eye dear {:-)
Can look at dmesg after boot up.
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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX - RTF
Alan L Tyree wrote:
Some time back I posted a question on conversion of LaTeX to RTF.
umm, latex2rtf exists.
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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX - RTF
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
umm, latex2rtf exists.
It exists, and it chokes badly on even some simple documents.
Care to post structures that it barfs on?
Admittedly I'm not doing books in it yet, but it would be helpful to
know what causes problems.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Terry Collins
Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
Note may. Usually they build up inhouse teams.
You're being amazingly defeatist, Terry.
People are free to make their own assessment.
I'm making mine based on 20 years IT experience. I've probably seen
something similar about 5 times and each time it went now where for the
little guys. There is one very important word in the news articles that
is extremely important.
The companies that can easily meet the tender specs are;
IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
because these companies have already met these specs and have the
background with NSW government departments.
RedHat - maybe. It needs hardware creds. Does it have a major integrated
project with NSW Gov under its belt?
There was one major NSW based company that probably meets the specs, but
it cauterised it's *nix skills a couple of years ago. I don't know of
any others.
As I see it, your concern has to tick off very strongly on
hardware; desktop to mainframe,
operating system(s),
software development (major league)
networking (LAN to statewide)
documentation (real stuff)
project management (with proven managers of major projects)
Training (with certified trainers with the latest certification)
financial backing
comprehensive insurance,
etc.
My 2c is that if you are an individual, with good skills, your best bet
is to see who tenders, then hawk your resume around.
What isn't filled by major companies, will be filled by the major blood
suckers.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Terry Collins
IBM, Sun, Novell, HP, ???
Note that only one of these companies can provide everything listed in the
tender. :-)
Really? Would you care to say which one you think can do it?
Hint, they are all *nix competent companies and they have all done major
tenders in the past. They Linux part is chicken shit.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Jeff Waugh wrote:
...snip
Note: Larger companies that can fulfill the difficult requirements may
contract (or employ) experts in the field to do the actual work. Not to
mention the market-building effects of a move like this.
Note may. Usually they build up inhouse teams.
And the problem is how they will source outside people.
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Re: [SLUG] Mail bounce
Elliott-Brennan wrote:
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2c. that address is subscribed to the slug list and their mailer is
sending the bounce directly to you.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
Taryn East wrote:
admittedly i haven't been following this conversation but...
Openskills you have to pay for...
Which isn't a problem if an old slugger can post the value of work they
have received from being listed in it.
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Re: [SLUG] NSW Tender meeting
David wrote:
Is it only me that finds URL's are an unsatisfying answer to a question?
In this case, they were satisfying for me, aka not of interest yet.
Phrases like;
guarantee any legal liability
only ten
provide all services
retraining resellers
etc.
It is a big fish market for overseas owned companies.
And the scraps are controlled by the usual blood suckers.
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Re: linux.conf.au [Was: [SLUG] Taking the Ubuntu Plunge ...]
Jeff Waugh wrote:
No way man, it's totally linux.conf.au. That's why the conference is called
linux.conf.au. It would be a totally crap conference if it were called
conf.linux.org.au. That'd be CLOA instead of LCA. That would SUCK ARSE.
Like as in cloaca (or a bird's arse) {:-)
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Re: [SLUG] New website rocks!
someone training for user support {:-) wrote:
Are you sure it's not a problem at your end?
ROFL.
Nope, it was definitely a site problem.
Working now.
Definitely slow.
I preferred the old one myself. There wasn't this question of where to
find stuff?.
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Sydney PostgreSQL User Group - inauguralmeeting
Julian Grodzicky wrote:
Can PostgreSQL be used as a GIS?
If you are using MySQL, then Postgress should work.
They are both databases.
GIS is Geographic Information System?
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Re: [slug] [O/T] Linux Advocate for Parliament
Follow Ups to Slug-Chat please.
It isn't linux
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Re: [SLUG] chmod
Andrewd wrote:
I have a bunch of files I need to chmod. All files exist under a main
directory and also under sub directories (of the main). I know I can
chmod 666 *.php but I need to do that in each directory. How do I tell
it to go thru each sub directory and change the files
chmod -R 666 *.php {;-).
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[SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian
What do people use to encode mp3s on debian?
Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff.
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian
Robert Collins wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 15:14 +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
What do people use to encode mp3s on debian?
Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff.
I know this doesn't answer your question... but why not use flac or
ogg ?
short answer emule,
long answer, I serving up to MS systems as well.
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Re: [SLUG] Encoding mp3 on debian
Craige McWhirter wrote:
Terry Collins said:
What do people use to encode mp3s on debian?
Most programs don't actually exist in the debian stuff.
Sound Juicer is the goods for several formats including the high quality
Ogg Vorbis and Fruahenhoff's MP3 product. (package name is sound-juicer)
Debian has all the goodies you'll need.
damselfly:/etc/apt# apt-get install sound-juicer
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package sound-juicer
damselfly:/etc/apt# apt-get install sound_juicer
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package sound_juicer
damselfly:/etc/apt#
???
debian woody.
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Re: [SLUG] Xsane/Gimp suddenly printing greyscale.
Taryn East wrote:
Wierd, that happened to me too and I just figured the coloured ink had
run out... maybe I'd better go look again just in case :)
If you find out anything useful, please CC me in.
Sigh, it had[1], but I had replaced it late at night and thought no more
about it. By the morning, there must have been an airlock or something.
It took opening three new cartridges and a completely different
computing path, multiple cleanings, pile of paper, etc, etc, etc to
finally diadnose it and remove it.
[1]The 1160 flashes its lights when the black or colour cartridge needs
replacing and you have to replace it.
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[SLUG] Xsane/Gimp suddenly printing greyscale.
I have a problem where Xsane and the Gimp have suddenly switched from
printing in colour to printing in grayscale. I'm hoping that someone
might have encountered this before and know what the problem is.
RH8.0, using Epson 1160. Trying the three 1160 drivers (omni, gimp
gimp-ijs) for the LPRD printing system to see which gives the best
printing[1] and last night, I found one that printed okay[2]. This
morning, the printouts are suddenly greyscale. I've been backthrough
each of the drivers and they all print in greyscale.
[1] I'm actually trying to copy the photograph index sheets for some
film I recently had developed so other people can order prints.
[2] For some reason Xsane prints these with a white/grey cast over ther
top in 2/3 of the drivers.
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[SLUG] Network Testing
Curiosity question.
everyone seems to be only using pings to test network connectivity.
what do people do when they need to test a service?
telnet IP PORT?
Thinking of cheops functionality.
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[SLUG] Wireless 101
Does anyone have a wireless 101+ URL?
Inherited a non-functioning wireless AP and I'm going balder {:-(
Found the doco online for the boxen, but that is really nothing more
than options for the config.
I need a bit more understanding.
e.g. I thought putting it as a bridge meant it just forwarded everything
(but it doesn't).
And it rotates between talking to one side of the other (ether,
wireless) or sulking (rather spying).
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Re: [SLUG] Rebuild hda
Simon Bryan wrote:
I could of course just disconnect the second HDD until the first is
re-built, but felt there had to be a more logical method.
Very logical and very safe. Highly recommended.
Just note the mounting specs and anything else you need to know.
Install new HDA, install Operating system, mount HDB.
Refer to old-HDA (mounted as HDB/C/D) if you run into problems along the
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[SLUG] G5 G4 (OSXV10) Writing to Linux Samba share. % GRe: [chat] Clueby on Mac OSX (latest)
David wrote:
Okay, I need the next step.
apple/system preferences/network
I'm sure that's not what you mean though.
Acutally it is what I wanted for the G3. Now that I know that OSXV9 is
not multi-homed, I understand what and how to set this up. Ideas will be
tested soon.
If you want to connect to your linux boxen:
finder/Go/connect-to-server
I type in the ip number of the appropriate box. I think you can
be much more sophisticated than that, but it works fine for me.
The problem now is enabling the G5 G4 (OSXV10) to be able to write to
the samba shares. I have no problem reading the samba shares from the G4
and a Win2K boxens. (Ignore G5 atm). The Win2k can write to any of the
shares.
Both authenticate by mounting the shares as linux users. This is enough
for the win2K boxen to be able to push stuff onto the samba shares.
However, the G4 can not do this. It can write to the users home
directory, but not the shares.
So I am after another clueby on what to look for to fix this.
extract from smb.conf if that helps.
[shared]
path = /shared2/shared
read only = No
hosts allow = 192.168.x.19 192.168.x.20
hosts deny = *
[downloads]
path = /downloads2/downloads
hosts allow = 192.168.x.19 192.168.27.x
hosts deny = *
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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article
Ashley Maher wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html
Just post the small bit of interest.
The SMH is now a brain dead site.
Even if you register, it is a major PITA.
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Re: [SLUG] Mail forwarding at router
Simon Bryan wrote:
it just occurred to me
that the previous ISP may not have adjusted the internet mail records
(MX??), will ring them and find out.
Doesn't your new ISP do this?
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[SLUG] Ever read a DV tape in a DAT drive?
Okay, OT I guess, or perhaps not.
After listening for weeks about this special DV format tape in mini-DV
video cameras, I finally found out today that it is just a DAT tape. For
which we have hired a DV camera for a week to read the tapes {:-(
So the obvious question is, can this tape be read in a DAT (rather than
a camera) drive under Linux?
Just thought I would ask if anyone has done it?
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[SLUG] Firebird Google search to do Australia?
Does anyon know how to change the google search panle in Firebird/fire
fox to search Australian web pages first? I fscked if I want to wade
through piles of US tripe.
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Re: [SLUG] Firebird Google search to do Australia?
Ankur Kotwal wrote:
Type about:config in the Url. Have a look at the value for
browser.search.defaulturl. You can edit the url to enforce a site:au
on every search.
Thanks
Hmm, must be something else affecting as well.
I've edited that, restarted firebird/fox and it has been retained, but
still the searches are google.com
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Re: [SLUG] Web Project Management Software - Calendar, SourceSharing, etc.
Chris Deigan wrote:
On 13/07/2004, at 10:10 AM, Joel Heenan wrote:
Dear Slug,
I was wondering if sluggers could recommend some software so that
myself and the project team and submit availability calendars
and compare times.snip
This is a bit vague, but one of the cal programs did this a few years
ago. Ncal? You ran a server on one machine and clients on the others.
It worked for SWMBO and I (so long as I entered her calendar {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] possible bug in libc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
We have an unusual problem with files that are invisible (sort of) to 'ls'
Umm, are these MAC files by any chance?
I had something similar here for a while, but it went away.
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Re: [SLUG] possible bug in libc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is a 'MAC' file? I couldn't find anything on what that is..
A file for a Apple Macintosh computer. Osx V10 on Macs can access samba,
etc.
I had downloaded a file for the Mac onto a samba share and it just
didn't show up with ls. So I downloaded into a sub-directory and it took
a few minutes for it to show up on ls.
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[SLUG] Training CD, how? Jave Perl, Quicktime, Flash
Friend has to make a training video that will run off a CD on on P3s
running Win2K.
Involves text, images(jpeg) movies (quicktime), animations (flash),
inter-active questions and a final formal inter-active test which needs
to be secure.
He is going to produce a lot of this with Mac OSX and software.
My guestion is about the glue that holds it all together.
I know it all could be done with HTML, but I don't think this meets the
security needs (aka, the test can not be fiddled).
ATM, a sub-contractor is suggesting Adobe In-Design to produce it all in
Java.
1) (non-linux) Can anyone tell me if this is abad idea and why and have
anyother suggestions.
2 (linux) Can anyone make any recommendations on opensource to produce
it or to run it.
I've just become the general dogsbody that has to solve all the
technical problems {:-(.
If he was going to offer it on-line (WWW), what would you recommend?
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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Terry Collins
Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number of
folders/etc.
Evolution should crank through that number of messages without any major
problems.
Unfortunately, Evolution doesn't get to first base for some reason. It
keeps barfing on the first folder. No messages. just hangs
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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.
Rick Welykochy wrote:
...snip.
Unfortunately, Evolution doesn't get to first base for some reason. It
keeps barfing on the first folder. No messages. just hangs
Okay, the hanging is caused by asking it to import two different things
(say mail and settingss )at the same time. So I guess that it is a bug
(allowing you to select two things).
If every mail program seems to barf, have you thought of the possibility
that you have a corrupt message in the folder? I have seen corrupt messages totally
screw the head of mail readers.
{:-) Er no, because Nutscape doesn't have any trouble.
Brain remembered above after leaving it for a while (I have been playing
with Evolution for a while and SWMBO is now using it). Will see what
happens overnight (other than duplicating mail space {:-(.
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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.
Terry Collins wrote:
Brain remembered above after leaving it for a while (I have been playing
with Evolution for a while and SWMBO is now using it). Will see what
happens overnight (other than duplicating mail space {:-(.
Okay, found out again why I didn't switch to Evolution.
It eventually dies with the error message too many open files part way
through importing the netscape messages. So it has a similar limitation
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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.
James Gregory wrote:
...snip
Okay, found out again why I didn't switch to Evolution.
It eventually dies with the error message too many open files part way
through importing the netscape messages. So it has a similar limitation
to Mozilla.
If you're dealing with a large number of messages, you're probably
better off using an IMAP server that uses Maildirs.
Thanks for the reminder. Brain now remembers why it was researching IMAP
before and why I build up another boxen (to use as an IMAP server -
duh!). Too many other projects have overflowed the stack.
OT - but does anyone know how to give a clueby to someone on sound
recording for making DVD videos. A simple 5 minute visit to show an
external video conversion boxen turned into a rather numbing morning
trying to get through to someone that sound isn't that hard and you
don't need to buy a whole pile of boxen (and why the fsck did you spend
money on a hand held cassette when it won't do what you want).
Thankfully it isn't my money {:-), but it is still hard watching friends
waste money on unneccessay crap that doesn't do the job. Less hard is
when they I was told by so and so and you have politely say explain
why it is, yet again, totally inappropriate, rather than say what
would that idiot know and how much did he make from you. Sigh!.
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[SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.
The subject is half the story. Basically I want a application that
allows me to store, index and search email messages. Lets say something
that would handle up to 5gb.
Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number
of folders/etc.
Until now for searching, I have passed an mbox file from Netscape
(monthly messages) through a process into Htdig, but I don't really want
to run apache and htdig on my personal PC and I no longer see much
benefit of providing yet another copy of various lists on my webserver
(as I did in the past).
So, does anyone have any suggestion on replacement solutions?
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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue
Peter Hardy wrote:
cd /var/spool/mqueue; ls | xargs rm
Doesn't it barf on the ls with the same message?
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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue
Edwin Humphries wrote:
...snip..
But i tried to delete the queue with rm * in
/var/spool/mqueue, but got Argument list too long.
try
for o in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f g h i .X Y Z
do
echo $o
something like rm $o*
done
I use if for tossing my spam into monthly folders.
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Re: [SLUG] Flooded mail queue
Peter Hardy wrote:
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 12:03, Terry Collins wrote:
Peter Hardy wrote:
cd /var/spool/mqueue; ls | xargs rm
Doesn't it barf on the ls with the same message?
You had me worried for a minute. :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mkdir tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ for filename in `seq 1 5`; do touch $filename;
done
*go and have lunch*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ rm *
bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ls | xargs rm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$
Okay, you are correct
Hmm, guess who has never used just ls {:-)
...snip.
And just to add to the obscure ls arguments thread, I just discovered
-1, to output one filename per line. I've never needed this, as GNU ls
seems to default to that when it's outputting to a pipe.
Not debian woody {:-)
It just dumps with a couple of spaces between each filename.
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Re: [SLUG] Archival storage
Alexander Samad wrote:
..snip
Basically looking back from the future our age will be an age that
archivists may call The information dark age - not because we were
un-enlightened but because the information never lasted.
What about punch cards!
Hmm, guess who has never had the job of feeding punch cards through
again and again because they are not being read right? {:-).
A horribly complex machine that requires continuous maintenance.
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[SLUG] An IP for blocking 198.31.189.134
Normally I think virus and spam discussion belong on slug-chat, but this
spammer has sucked addresses off the slug-list so you might want to
block the IP 198.31.189.134, since they now have a virus.
Received:
by maddog.slug.org.au (Postfix) id F3DD510E70B; Wed, 9 Jun
2004 00:49:06
+1000 (EST)
Delivered-To:
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Received:
from adult1.org (unknown [198.31.189.134]) by
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Received a couple in the small hours
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[SLUG] JDK = 1.3 for Debian Woody
Could someone tell me where I can find a Java Development Kit =Version
1.3 for debian woody?
It has been requested for the various forms of tomcat4 (apt-cache search
tomcat).apt-cache seach JDK only provides an install for an ibm v1.1.
And a search on google hasn't been too successful.
So I though it would be easier to ask if someone has done this before.
Actually, to step back a bit, I was looking for a java runtime for
Mozilla, if that is an easier problem to solve.
TIA
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Re: [SLUG] rhn's /var/spool/up2date/* : is it needed ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RH73; is there much point keeping the files in up2date ?
# du -H /var/spool/up2date
490M/var/spool/up2date
I pressume these are all updates the system d/l from rhn, and, if I was to
re-install from original media, I'd need all these to 'bring it back' to
same state ?
Burn them off to a CD?
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Re: [SLUG] Regional Users' Group
Matthew Davidson wrote:
...snip.
So I have no alternative but to start one myself.
Biggest problem is venue. so unless you have the facilities where you
live and are happy to have people there (and do not mind the security
risk), then I would go whereever you can get free venue. Anything to
start and you can always change later.
Publicity; most local newspapers seem to have diary pages, etc for local
clubs. Notices around the shopping centres (special notice boards),
schools?, places of work (staff/social club board), etc. Later on you
can do the occassional news article for the newspapers, etc
Provide a cuppa - people want somewhere/places/atmosphere where they
feel happy chatting and most do not like asking questions in meetings,
etc.
Just set a date and venue and go for it.
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Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins wrote:
I can recommend a book called Australian Accounting if you want to
understand accounting.
Have you got an ISBN for that?
My wife learnt from the 2nd edition and I learnt from the 3rd edition
two decades ago. {:-) By B.T Colditz and R.W. Gibbons ISBN 0 07 451017
7. It was the text for first year accountancy (business) students at
Kuring-gai CAE (now UTS).
It taught book keeping through to and including a full set of books for
a small concern. It doesn't teach tax law, which is what I paid my
accountant to know {:-).
Unfortunately, I could not dig it up at Co-op Bookshop
(http://www.coop-bookshop.com.au), so I guess it has been superceeded.
It looks like they are now using
Accounting ( Aust Edition ) Study Guide Cdrom ( Package )
by Horngren Tyler ISBN: 0922972001
$120 RRP, $108 to members.
I have no idea what this book is like, but I understand that double
entry accounting hasn't changed its basis since the phoecians (sp?)
{:-).
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[SLUG] Spice under Linux (Debian Woody?)
Is anyone doing any spice stuff under Linux?
Under debian woody?
If so, what apps are you using?
I've been trying to use Oregano as the schmatic, then gnucap as the
analysis, but gnucap barfs on Q (Bipolar Junction Transistor = not
implemented), so I am rather stuck atm.
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Re: [SLUG] revisiting a hot topic (accounting systems)
Hugh Madden wrote:
Hi all,
I realise this thread was done to death a few years back.
Anyway, perhaps the situation has improved.
I resent having to purchase myob or quicken and vmware simply to keep
track of my finances.
I'm wondering how to go about:
BAS/STS/depreciating assets
BAS = GST is just another account where the GST amount acculmulates
until you hand it over. Naturally there is a GST credit account two. You
can do this with any accounting package. YOU just have to allocate the
proportion to GST.
Is there anything that isn't GST affected? If not, just work it on your
quarterly totals.
STS?
All accounting packages do depreciation. It is really just a journal
entry. when you buy an asset, the value goes into an asset account
(matched by the liability/payment transaction) and when you depreciate
it each June, the deprecation goes into a matching reverse asset
account, which is match by a depreciation expense account.
I can recommend a book called Australian Accounting if you want to
understand accounting.
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Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working
David wrote:
...snip..
You didn't tell us which spam filter, but spamassassin was catching less
than 50% spams when I stopped using it.
Is it worthwhile to retrain your spam filters when the nature of spam
changes?
Just wondering.
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[SLUG] Remote LPD priting on Debian Woody (LPRNG)
I'm having a bit of trouble with remote printing (LPR) onto a Debian
Woody machine.
Basically, I can not work out what I am doing wrong to give permission
to the remote machine to spool to the printer.
As I understand it adding
ACCEPT SERVICE=R REMOTEIP=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
to /etc/lprng/lpd.perms
should allow any computer on 192.127.1.0 net to send to the remote spool
on the debian woody machine, but no such luck.
TIA
and nope, I do not want to degrade to cups thanks. {:-)
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FIXED Re: [SLUG] Remote LPD priting on Debian Woody (LPRNG)
Terry Collins wrote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with remote printing (LPR) onto a Debian
Woody machine.
Okay, fixed
http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2002/04/msg00606.html
Basically, I can not work out what I am doing wrong to give permission
to the remote machine to spool to the printer.
As I understand it adding
ACCEPT SERVICE=R REMOTEIP=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
to /etc/lprng/lpd.perms
should allow any computer on 192.127.1.0 net to send to the remote spool
on the debian woody machine, but no such luck.
TIA
and nope, I do not want to degrade to cups thanks. {:-)
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Re: [SLUG] Server being used to relay emails
Jared Pritchard wrote:
Hi -
Got a little problem. =)
We are getting reports back from other servers on the net saying our message
from something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rejected because of an
attached virus.
Umm, you have a user 130Qe49y1 do you?
...snip.
Has anyone got ANY idea on what could be happening?
Did you look at the headers?
Are our WinXP machines infected regardless of our anti-virus software?
That is a possibility.
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Re: [SLUG] Fixed 2.6 kernel pasting with scrol wheel
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Hi all,
I thought I'd post this for the benefit of the archive.
I got my middle click working by unplugging the mouse from the PS/2
port and plugging into into the USB port (the mouse is a USB mouse
with a USB-PS/2 adaptor).
ROFL, but my KVM doesn't do USB.
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Re: [SLUG] [pjtraynor@eircom.net: Anyone care to read this!]
...snip.
Unfortunately you or I may not like it but the market it driven by can
we turn it on and have everything done for us as we don't have the
inclination to want to look under the hood.
Yep, they are called customers.
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Re: [SLUG] Destroyed hard drive
Tony Green wrote:
...snip.
Anyone know any ways of automating part of the recovery?
Don't most distros allow you to automate installation.
If there is no backup, then it wasn't important.
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[SLUG] Debian Printing - where do I start?
The short answer is that my lprng printing on Debian Woody is now
squarking that all the printer queues are non-existant, e.g no
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And yes it squarks about running checkpc -f, which in turns squarks
about .banner on ttyS0 (modem-efax), but that isn't the problem.
here is that message
damselfly:/etc# lpr -Php5ps /etc/hosts
Status Information:
sending job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
connected to 'localhost'
requesting printer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed
error 'NONZERO RFC1179 ERROR CODE FROM SERVER' with ack
'ACK_FAIL'
sending str '^Bhp5ps' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
error msg: 'spool queue for 'hp5ps' does not exist on server
damselfly.woa.com.au'
error msg: ' non-existent printer or you need to run 'checkpc
-f''
damselfly:/etc#
What changed?
Well, I had to reinstall Samba (for the MS clients) two days ago,
because 4 days ago I decided that I didn't need exim and removed it and
it took out samba at the same time. Perhaps someone can explain why
these are linked.
Anyway, I apt-get install samba and now samba works, but this is the
first time I've tried printing.
The only other change is that about 4-5 days ago I was chasing fax
software (efax) and up installing mgetty-fax, but i have printed since
then.
Looking for a bit of clue that might save me from have to inspect the
entire entrails of Debian Woody printing system - aka how to fix the
problem (and no I don't want cups thanks).
No useful result from google either (yet)
The beain says this has occurred before but it hasn't remembered the
problem atm {;-).
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