Re: [RCSE] RES vs UNL vs DLG
I once got a several guys to build one or more Skeeters, and we all modified them so that there was not even one in the group that was stock. We flew the heck out of them all that summer and had more fun thermalling, sloping tree lines and backyard walls... it was really great. Mentioning that model sure brings back some fun memories! - Original Message - From: Bill's Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] RES vs UNL vs DLG I think it is abundantly clear the path that is needed to be taken in soaring to restore it to all its glory. Yes, I am talking about the complete prohibition of all but one aircraft from soaring competition. The one and only aircraft that shall be used is the venerable Skeeter, and it MUST be built by the pilot. This will restore the need for building skills and also positively determine who the best pilot is. Anyone who can keep a Skeeter aloft from more than a few minutes truly is a a soaring God!! So there it is, the salvation of soaring is the Skeeter. Who'd a thunk it?? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] So, having read the 2.4 Articles in this Month's RCSD, What's your 2.4 opinion?
I really appreciated the information on Advanced Range Testing. While I've had mostly good luck (yes - it really is 'luck') with 72MHz, the expense and horror stories of 2.4 have kept me away. With this article, a realistic analysis process seems possible which would address the reception problems. Now it's just a matter of expense... -Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] So, having read the 2.4 Articles in this Month's RCSD, What's your 2.4 opinion?
I really appreciated the information on Advanced Range Testing. While I've had mostly good luck (yes - it really is 'luck') with 72MHz, the expense and horror stories of 2.4 have kept me away. With this article, a realistic analysis process seems possible which would address the reception problems. Now it's just a matter of expense... -Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR Scan Select receiver feedback
I purchased an R720 at a local hobby store and installed in a multifunction glider with 4 JR digital servos and 2 Hitec analog servos. The digital servos made quite a bit of noise (noticeable to others waiting for the winch) similar to jitter but without actually moving the servo arms. The analog servos were quiet and steady. The plane flew fine, even at distance, but it always made quite a bit of noise. Also, several of the more experienced members commented that it was louder than they would expect. When I got the plane home, I switched out the ScanSelect with a normal R700. All the digital (and analog) servos were immediately quiet. I swapped it back and forth a few times to make sure it wasnt my wiring, and continued to get consistent results showing that the R720 was the problem. I took it back to the local hobby store (Larrys Hobbies) and they immediately replaced it only asking me to call back and let them know if the new one worked better. I called them back saying that the new one was just as quiet as my R700. They sent the old one back to JR who indicated that they have not heard of such a problem and mine could have just been an anomaly. Certainly, the new one works just fine. It looks like a good product (it sure is easy to use!), backed by a quality company, and is supported by a reputable dealer network. Whats not to like? -Keith
[RCSE] Re: First Sailplane
My first plane was a House of Balsa 2-Tee. The one thing I wasn't prepared for was that it actually flew! 20 years ago last month... Next was a House of Balsa 2x4, so that I could try and keep one flying while the other plane was being repaired. Then I moved on to a Dodgson Pivot+, which is still flying today! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For sale: Super V
Super V with JR servos. White wings on top with fluorescent tips, black bottoms; natural fuselage. $350 shipped to your door in the lower 48. - Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted: RnR Millennium Wing Joiner
Hello, OK, one last try. Earlier this month I asked if anyone had a Millennium fuselage and wing joiner that they wanted to part with. I had great success finding a fuselage but I still need a wing joiner. I know I can order one from RnR, but I thought I would give the list one more try. Anybody??Please contact me at my email address if you do. Thanks! Keith Lutz Olympia, WA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted: RnR Millennium Fuselage and Wing Rod
Anybody have a RnR Millennium fuselage and wing rod they are willing to part with? The wing rod is the CF rectanular one with the dihedral molded in.. Let me know what you have. Thanks! Keith Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: Super V 100
For sale: good condition Super V 100 with JR servos. White wings on top with fluorescent tips, black bottoms; natural fuselage. $375 + SH - Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Graupner Cirrus Kit for sale
For Sale: Original 118" span Graupner Cirus Kit in original box. Asking $175 plus postage. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Translations wanted
George Voss wrote: Tuan, that is exactly what I was looking for, thank you. gv You may also find this site useful: http://www.gbutler.demon.co.uk/glossary/ This glossary lists over 400 gliding words and phrases, in their English and German versions. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring
Martin really has this one absolutely right! Keith I like the present situation because there's a sort of gentlemen's agreement with the FAA -- we don't interfere with full-size traffic and they leave us alone. It works well for both parties. The FAA assumes that we're responsible people but reserves the right to wield a big stick if we're not. All Dave Brown can do is disturb a stable situation. He can't request exclusive use of airspace up to 700' without seriously restricting the number of places we can fly. Full size pilots have to share the air. They just have to look where they're going, especially near the ground. There are birds up there. There are other people blundering around in planes and ultralights. There's parafoils, balloons -- all sorts of things. Our models add just a tiny bit extra to the mix -- there's not a lot of us, we're predictable, we avoid areas where planes fly and we can get out the way quickly if we have to. So if we're not being a problem then why try to find a solution? My hope is the FAA is more pragmatic than the AMA. So far, so good. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] height limit for sailplanes! no way!
Just an FYI, Full scale (powered) aircraft have relatively low altitude limits (with respect to the altitudes our gliders can and often fly at). For those of you who may not know, those altitude restrictions are as follows: In the airport traffic pattern (normally out to as far as 5 miles from the airport): Piston aircraft: 800' AGL Turbine powered: 1500' AGL Cruise flight: Over populated areas: 1500' AGL minimum Over non or sparsely populated areas: 500' AGL vertically and horizontally from any object or person on the surface. As you can see, it is easy for our models to be a collision hazard for low flying aircraft, especially near an airport and especially in remote areas (Visalia, for example)! Keith McLellan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Planes for sale
In response to inquiries: Sharon 3.7m Profi X-tail in good shape: $1050 plus shipping, no Rx. Nearly new AVA (RES), just a few flights: $750 plus shipping, no Rx. Kennedy Composites custom bag for the AVA: $100 2m Organic completely RTF: $500 plus shipping Sharon and AVA do not have Rx's, so any radio will work just fine. I'm on a trip right now, and I can't remember what servos are in either of those models. I'll email or post the details as I remember them or when I get home next Friday and can physically look the planes over. AVA is available with a custom bag from Kennedy Composites. The Sharon had some fuse pushrod/tail linkage binding issues, so I finally ended up removing the stock glass fiber wrapped wire pushrods and replacing them with solid .066 carbon rods from ASC, after doing some work on the elvator bellcrank and rudder pushrod attachment point. The area I cut open is under the horiz. stab on the lower left side of the vertical fin. Put in some thick balsa stock to help anchor the glass skin when I epoxied it back in place. The repair is not pretty, but is very strong and functional. Now both the elevator and rudder move with no binding or slop. The servos are much happier now! The fuse servos are a pair of new Hitec HS-225's, fed by a new 1100mah, 5-cell NiMh battery. I still can't remember what servos are in the wings. For sure I'll know by Friday! Organic is set up with Futaba Rx and new HS-81 Hitec servos in the fuse. Flap servo is a Volz Micro-maxx. Can't remember what kind of micro servos are in the ailerons. Comes with a Futaba 8ch PCM 1024 Transmitter. Already programmed correctly with launch and thermal camber, crow mode enabled at half flap, and all elevator compensations dialed in for flap/crow/camber modes. You can literally just charge the batteries in the Tx and the plane and launch this baby in a contest and win (glider flying/contest winning skill not included)! It is dialed in and C.G. is pretty optimal. Keith McLellan 610-905-5255 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Planes all sold
The AVA and the 2m Organic are sold, and the Sharon is tentatively spoken for. Thanks for the bandwith. Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Planes for sale
I'm getting out of RC gliders now, at least for the time being. I live near two great power fields and just don't have the opportunity to fly gliders anymore, really. Contact me off the list if you're interested in a 3.7m Sharon Profi (cross tail), a 2m Organic or an AVA. All are ready to fly. The Organic will come truly completely ready to fly with Futaba PCM Tx. All you will have to do is turn on the radio and launch! Pics on request, but will have to wait until I get back from this trip next Friday. Keith Allentown, PA 610-905-5255 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] I want one
Steve Meyer wrote: Too late. Website has reached it's allotted bandwith. You can view a cached version here: http://snipurl.com/g2ms RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F-16 Flyby-Happy 4th of July
Since when? As a professional pilot who has watched people build and buy homes closer and closer to airports that have been there for many tens of years, and some a hell of a lot longer than that, I question their intelligence, education and common sense. Airports are and always will be good for the community, especially from a financial perspective! And those that are home to military squadrons play an even more important role! Most airports generate more steady-state revenue for the local community than people ever seem to realize. And why is it that when people have to travel somewhere and choose to go by airline, the average joe traveling public seems to always be complaining about how much of a pain it is to get to the airport because it's so far away, etc. Everyone seems to want an airport nearby when it serves their personal purposes, but are quick to condemn them if an airplane flies overhead. And those that complain about ticket prices on airlines have no clue what it costs to operate an airplane or airline. Airlines RARELY make much if any profit at all. Most operate in the red! Airlines operate on such thin margins that few people in their right mind would ever invest in one! The incredible lack of understanding and general ignorance of what's involved in supporting and operating aircraft is not just limited to the general public, but sadly also includes those that actually work in the industry (It's all I can do to keep from blowing up when I listen on a discrete frequency to some airline pilots complaining about their contracts, pay and benefit packages as we cruise along at 40,000' over the Atlantic or Pacific routes sometimes). It's really a sad thing. *sigh* okay, I'll get off my soapbox now. Sorry to all for my little rant off-topic... BUT before I go... how can anyone not be turned on by the sound of 50,000 pound thrust G.E. or Pratt and Whitney engines in afterburner, even if it IS at O-dark thirty in the morning? Keith McLellan (crazy about every kind of flying machine imagineable for over 43 years now) Captain New World Aviation - Original Message - From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] F-16 Flyby-Happy 4th of July Sound of freedom can really be obnoxious at times :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Re: [RCSE] F-16 Flyby-Happy 4th of July
It's when that sound stops that you gotta start worrying!!!:-) Keith - Original Message - From: Mark Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: FW: Re: [RCSE] F-16 Flyby-Happy 4th of July But there's no sound better than that of a T-56/Turboprop swinging on the wing of a C-130. (The sound's of heaven) Mark (retired C-130 Crew Chief) Soaring Is Life!! From: Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] F-16 Flyby-Happy 4th of July Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 07:20:25 -0400 Since when? As a professional pilot who has watched people build and buy homes closer and closer to airports that have been there for many tens of years, and some a hell of a lot longer than that, I question their intelligence, education and common sense. Airports are and always will be good for the community, especially from a financial perspective! And those that are home to military squadrons play an even more important role! Most airports generate more steady-state revenue for the local community than people ever seem to realize. And why is it that when people have to travel somewhere and choose to go by airline, the average joe traveling public seems to always be complaining about how much of a pain it is to get to the airport because it's so far away, etc. Everyone seems to want an airport nearby when it serves their personal purposes, but are quick to condemn them if an airplane flies overhead. And those that complain about ticket prices on airlines have no clue what it costs to operate an airplane or airline. Airlines RARELY make much if any profit at all. Most operate in the red! Airlines operate on such thin margins that few people in their right mind would ever invest in one! The incredible lack of understanding and general ignorance of what's involved in supporting and operating aircraft is not just limited to the general public, but sadly also includes those that actually work in the industry (It's all I can do to keep from blowing up when I listen on a discrete frequency to some airline pilots complaining about their contracts, pay and benefit packages as we cruise along at 40,000' over the Atlantic or Pacific routes sometimes). It's really a sad thing. *sigh* okay, I'll get off my soapbox now. Sorry to all for my little rant off-topic... BUT before I go... how can anyone not be turned on by the sound of 50,000 pound thrust G.E. or Pratt and Whitney engines in afterburner, even if it IS at O-dark thirty in the morning? Keith McLellan (crazy about every kind of flying machine imagineable for over 43 years now) Captain New World Aviation - Original Message - From: Don Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] F-16 Flyby-Happy 4th of July Sound of freedom can really be obnoxious at times :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] For sale: Super V
Super V with JR servos. White wings on top with fluorescent tips, black bottoms; natural fuselage. $400 + SH - Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: Super V 100
For sale: good condition Super V 100 with JR servos. White wings on top with fluorescent tips, black bottoms; natural fuselage. $400 + SH - Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] New Soarer
Michael Zusi wrote: Excuse me if I am not following protocol. I am venturing into a new listserve. I am venturing into r/c flying. I'm a Navy pilot. Fly privately, am a tow pilot and have soloed a glider. The big stuff is great but I would love to learn to fly a r/c glider among the crows in my backyard. Any suggestions? I've thought of the rtf products as an introduction but then I may be stuck with tx and receivers that aren't compatible with more advanced aircraft. I'd like to do some field flights with launch but also want to park fly in my backyard. Any suggestions on how to proceed? Two good things to read before you get started: http://www.b2streamlines.com/GSinRCSr.pdf http://www.soarheads.com/documents/gettingstarted.html Enjoy, Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS or OSHKOSH?
Cameron, If I can get the 172 ready by then (it's in need of LE repairs and some avionics work), I'm definitely going! I like what Ben Diss did, and will try to do the same. The thought of being camped out near enough to hear and see warbirds roaring off in the morning as a wakeup call is too hard to resist! I wish I had a Lance or Saratoga to fly there. I have over 1,000 hours in that type, and yes, what a great campout plane it would be! Keith - Original Message - From: Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Keith' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] NATS or OSHKOSH? Hi Keith, OSHKOSH -- I *AGREE*!!! My partner and I just flew down to Sun 'n Fun at Lakeland FL in our Piper Lance (e.g. pre-Saratoga). We camped at Sun 'n Fun -- we took out the back seats (2nd and 3rd row), put in some pillows, mattress and a couple of sleeping bags. In the evenings we either BBQ at the plane with the other pilots or eat at the local Margeretaville bar/cafeteria. We had a GREAT time. Also, pack in you HLG glider and impress the local/camping pilots! This way you can have your cake and eat it too! Regards, Cameron RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS or OSHKOSH?
LOL! I was thinking the same thing! Not sure I want to be camped that close to the runway! I'm working on the almost impossible task of reserving a nearby hotel room in case I can't fly up there and camp out under a wing. For sure I'll bring along my Photon DLG and a an electric or two for early evening fun! Keith Funny that you and Benn mention camping out near the runway... That is exactly what we did. We were at the approach end of the runway, right under the runway extension line into Sun 'n Fun. It sure was awesome to see the P-38 Lightning (Glacier Girl from the Lost Squadron), several P-51D Mustangs, F4 Phantom, some Corsairs, F16 F18's, L39 jets, DC-3, Grumman Albatross'es, many private/business jets, the new Eclipse 500 VLJ (Very Light Jet), Adams A500 and A700, Lancair's, Cirrius'es, and all the various other home built aircraft, etc. It was AWESOME! We were definitely woken up every morning around 7~7:30 AM as they started coming in for finals. Of course after watching them for a while and looking at some guys overshoot the base leg, then bank STEEP to make it back on line for short final (line-up with the runway) you could not help but wonder what would happen if the guy/pilot made a cross-controlled stall and nose dived it down into the ground... What would the chances be of being hit... *grin* If you end up going to Oshkosh give me a buzz. The chances are good that we will be going also -- if only for a day or two (over the weekend). Regards, Cameron RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS or OSHKOSH?
I was just about to mail my registration in for the NATS, but a buddy called me up to ask if I'd figured out where I was going to camp and what airplane I was flying into Oshkosh this summer...Ah, #%@*#! H.Oshkosh or the NATS... OSHKOSH BY GOSH! For those of you less enlightened, I am referring to EAA Airventure 2005. The biggest sport aviation fly-in/air show/party on the planet! Although I'd hoped to be flying to Oshkosh in an RV-6, it's not going to happen in time so I guess I'll just have to go in a classic 1967 C-172 square tail. Have fun at the NATS. Guess I'll go to Eagle Butte for soaring fix this summer. Keith McLellan Northampton, PA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS events
Is there going to be XC at the NATS this year? Keith McLellan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS XC
Thanks for all the responses. Anyone want to team up with me for F3J? Keith McLellan Allentown area, PA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re:Profi Multiplex 4000
Mike, What do you mean by UI? Keith McLellan -another very happy 4000 owner. ..just in London the other day... IMO the 4000 is still the mixer king, the Evo is still the UI king. Mike RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?
James V. Bacus wrote: Change your email software to Eudora... http://www.eudora.com/ Even better: Mozilla Thuderbird! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ -- Keith (a convert from Eudora) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Using cheap hair spray
I've been using cheap hair spray for years. I especially like using it on all my paper pattern. It's best to do this after your patterns have been pasted down to your pattern material. The spraying of the patterns should be done before cutting your patterns. The spray really helps protects your patterns long after they have been pasted up. One another thing, be sure to write all your notes on your patterns before spraying them. I suggest using two to three very light coats of spray making sure each coat has thoroughly dried before applying the following coat, and then lightly kiss your patterns with 600 sand paper. This will assure you'll have great patterns than will last! Krs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:34 AM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Question for Modelers Familiar w/Shellac Jim - I haven't used shellac to do this, but I have achieved some pretty light finishes. I use hair spray for the initial coats. Get the cheapest large aerosal cans you can find. Fog a few sparse coats on, sanding very lightly with 400 grit between coats. You only need to knock down the stickups. If you keep the initial coats light and let them dry well you won't hurt a foam wing, and the weight buildup will be minimal. After you get the wood sealed with hairspray go ahead with the waterborn poly. I like to wipe it on with an old t shirt or a foam brush, keeping the coats thin and many. happy trails - Roob Glover As a woodworker I haven=B9t used but read about shellac as the sealer/under coat for wood finishes. Shellac is accepted as a good barrier against wate= r vapor, but not liquid water, and any finish will stick to it well. So I thought it might be a very good under or only coat for balsa tail parts on HLG=B9s etc. Don Stackhouse of DJ Aerotech describes the use of water born (not a solvent in this case) polyurethane and that care must be taken to ge= t a very thin first later coats. One reason for that would be the fact tha= t wood so readily absorbs water then changing it=B9s dimensions due to swelling of the wood fibers. Don's main goal seems to be to limit weight added though. Have any of you tried shellac, which uses alcohol as its solvent? I am wondering if a 3 pound cut, for example, would penetrate less than a 1 poun= d cut. [Shellac is mixed as x pounds of flakes to 1 gallon of alcohol. N.B. you must use de-waxed shellac if you intend to over coat it with any other finish.] --=20 Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] First Sailplane
Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: How many can remember their very first R/C sailplane? Mine was one of the first Oly 650's. Wish I still had it for posterity, but elected to fly another aircraft while a newbie flew my Oly, bad idea... House of Balsa 2-T. Very stable plane, broke down easily for transport, but I would not recommend a T-tail for someone teaching themselves to fly -- too fragile. Luckily it was also easy to repair! Still, many happy memories of watching it soar against the sunset in those early years... -- Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's easy, Bob Dodgson Pivot. Would fly in anything. Flew it HL, slope, thermal, etc. Started out about 18 oz, ended up almost 25oz after all the repairs. Agreed; I've had one now for 17 years, and it's still flying strong. Too bad they're not in production anymore... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Re: Mano y Mano
At 02:27 PM 10/29/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only got a D in high school espanol, but it seems to me for man-on-man, the Hispanic term traditionally is Mano A Mano... Mano Y Mano I think means man AND man, which may be what you meant if you were flying in Massachusetts... It actually means Hand and Hand the way it's written here; the typical usage is mano a mano, or hand to hand, as in hand-to-hand combat. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Help!
I'm not doing something right here in trying to unsubscribe from the list. Can anyone just send my the commands verbatim? Keith
[RCSE] unsubscribing
Thanks to all who pointed out to me that my email was formatted in HTML/RTF. I thought I had my default set to plain text. Problem is now solved and am leaving the list for the winter while I get my new business up and running (not enough time to deal with R/C of any kind for the next couple of months). See ya all in Phoenix area in Feb. Keith McLellan Northampton, PA
Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models
Martin, Didn't mean to sound too serious in my previous reply, but it's just that I know what can be done with something like a model airplane, and I was really only responding to people's complaints about their model flying activities being curtailed temporarily when a security-sensitive "asset" is nearby. I am definitely against anything like our club flying fields being closed permanently for misguided security concerns! Also, I think we can all be as accurate as needed if we're trying to bullseye our timers!!! LOL!!! Keith
[RCSE] Security issues and R/C models
You guys just don't get it. Since none of you seem to realize what someone who has a mind to do can accomplish using an R/C model, and especially an electric glider, I'll tell you. You can easily use an electric glider as an accurate targeting anti-personnel weapon, and it'd be very effective against a small group of people (think of the president exiting his vehicle in the motorcade, surrounded by his security people). The types of explosives that are available and the materials you can wrap them can easily be carried inside the fuse and wings of any of our typical models. There are tiny, highly accurate, gps-based autopilot systems designed to be used with R/C gear that are easily available for purchase from several vendors that would make getting the model on a fixed target fairly easy. I get security training on a regular basis because of my job and my eyes have been opened to more types of small, terrorist-devised weapons than I ever would have thought existed, plus all the ones I learned about over the years my father worked to develop for the military. If you looked at your models and started thinking of all the ways you could use it as a weapon, then you'd realize just how nervous any security team would be to have you flying around anywhere near the asset they are trying to protect! Keith McLellan Captain Gulfstream III, Challenger 601 Northampton, PA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Visalia is done and I've decided to quit!
Yup! I'm hooked again, and I can't wait to get back into it! Showing up at Visalia after a 4-year hiatus with a plane I'd never flown before (an X-21) and without any practice to speak of (6 bungee launches Friday afternoon for programming/trimming flights) is not the way to do it, but hey, I figured it's like riding a bicycle, you jump back on and it's no big deal WRONG! The level of competition is such that a couple seconds off your time and a less than perfect landing and you are way down in the middle of the pack! Despite all that, I think I would have had a respectable finish but fate ruled otherwise.Over the course of the middle rounds, myX-21 became subtly but increasingly difficult to fly, and at first I thought it was me that was the problem and I was becoming very exasperated by what seemed to be a case of dumb thumbs, but then it finally became apparent that the RF module in my trusty MPX 4000 was dying and was responsible for some of the weird flying characteristics that my plane had begun to exhibit. As an example, on one landing approach, the flap/elevator compensation suddenly and spectacularly reversed itself! Coming up on the runway, I pulled a little more flap and the plane suddenly pitched hard nose up and though I shoved full down elevator, she just sailed over the entire runway and planted itself at my feet. Talk about frustration!!! Earlier I had thought I was being hit, and now I thought maybe I had done something wrong in the programming. I won't go into all the details, but after a close look at the programming on the Tx and another range check and freq scan, several people with me were surprised to see the flight controls just start moving around on their own and settle into different trim positions, all without me touching the sticks. At that point I took myself out of the contest and just watched the rest of the second day. A DNF at Visalia. :-( Despite that, the trip was worth the trouble and expense and I still had a lot of fun and got to see a lot of old friends. The Friday and Saturday afternoon/evening antics are just too much fun, especially when there are that many people with so many different "toys" to play with. Big thanks to Mike Lee for the Slow Stik combat contest (absolutely hilarious) and for letting me play around with his HLG, doing aerobatics off the launch and a lot of inverted hand catches, etc. And thanks to Paul Anderson for letting me fly his superlight 3D foamie electric! At under a 3oz wing loading, this thing is a real hoot to fly and everyone should have one!! Those of you who weren't there will not understand the real meaning of "limbo" as defined Saturday night by Paul Anderson and Joe Wurts. Now THAT was fun to watch!! If you are really into soaring, you owe it to yourself to go at least once! The top 10 spots in open class were nailed down by people whose names are synonomous with winning in this hobby. Any of these guys can hold their own against the best anywhere else in the world. And you know there is serious firepower in the lineup when you see names like Daryl Perkins, Joe Wurts, Larry Jolly, Ben Clerx and a multitude of other stellar performers and contest winners. Guys like Tom Copp, Mark Taylor, Edgar Vera, Arthur M., Keith Kendrick the list is long and the soaring skills displayed by those people are impressive indeed. I just hope that I am able to work hard enough to earn the right to rank myself among them next year!!! Time to start working to get ready for next season. Anybody within reasonable distance of eastern PA want to join me in putting together an F3J team and a Cross-country team, please get in touch! Keith McLellan Northampton, PA 484-894-0463
[RCSE] for sale at Visalia
Assuming it survives the airline flight out from the east coast, I will have a nice X-21 with digital servos for sale at the end of the contest. Will entertain reasonable offers. Keith McLellan 805-304-5095 484-894-0463
Re: [RCSE] I know it ain't Muncie, but it is Visalia....!:-)
Inverted hand catch after a limbo under a 2 meter tape 50' away from the circle where you are standing piece of cake!!! - Original Message - From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] I know it ain't Muncie, but it is Visalia!:-) Speaking of Visalia, does anyone know what landing task they have decided to roll the dice with... uh punish us with uh I mean.??? ;-) Not that it matters. I was just curious. D ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] The new JR 9303
I think you're referring to the Multiplex 4000 profi. Keith - Original Message - From: Joe Rodriguez To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; James V. Bacus Cc: tom Copp Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] The new JR 9303 The radio I would want will have switches sliders where the Stylus has them today, MORE onboard model memory, a color display toview screen savers or my photos, MORE mixers and a PC interface to save setups on my home PC and email setups to others also a built in drink holder. Now that is a radio. joe - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: [RCSE] The new JR 9303 I put an initial write up on my blog with a few close up pictures. If you are interested, here is the link. http://www.jimbacus.net/Those of you receiving your 9303's today may want to check it out... I know you will learn something that will help you out. 8-)JimDowners Grove, ILMember of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IVICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.netRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Optimized thermal planes
Launching and Thermalling: a 3.7m Sharon, of course and if you just set up your landing early and consistently, you can be very competitive there as well!! It's been awhile since I've flown TD or any sailplane at all for that matter, but I'm going to get back into it, and my weapon of choice will be the Sharon. The last time I flew TD was in 2000, and both at Pasadena and at Visalia, I was told by the winchmasters to back off because I was pulling so hard I was burning up the winches. In one contest, in the first early morning round with foggy, misting conditions and no appreciable wind, I launched hard enough to make an 8 minute time without trying very hard. Just flew one big square pattern over the field. With the combo RG-15/7037 airfoil, big span and high aspect ration, it flies very efficeintly and penetrates well in even moderate winds, which is good because it doesn't have provisions for ballast unless you modify it. Making time is a non-issue by comparison with many other models out there. It IS big, so for you guys that tend to do a lot of maneuvering in close when going for your landing, it will push you to become much more consistent in your approaches and get set up properly much earlier. And it's heavier, with all that that implies, simply because of it's sheer size. That will affect landings also, and again requires more skill and lower landing speeds at the tape. Which brings me back to what John Erickson posted earlier. He really hits the nail on the head there. It's YOU, the pilot, that makes the real difference! Skill can't be bought with a particular airplane. Guys like Joe and Daryl have proven time and again that they can win with almost anything, but I also know for a fact that they fly more than most and have put more time into the hobby than most. If you don't push your personal envelope then you'll never get any better. The fastest plane does not always win the race on the slopes for example. A pilot who's smooth on the sticks, flies the straightest course in the best lift zone and maintains energy better in the turns will usually win if he has at least a competitive plane. Soaring is much like that. Knowing your plane and being consistent will do more for you than chasing after the latest and greatest every season or two. Keith McLellan Bizjet driver Go really, really fast... and turn left! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04
Ben, et al, You may own and operate your own full scale aircraft and live nearby the affected area, but so do I, AND I fly corporate jets in and out of ALL the airports named in this TFR on a regular basis. Several times a week, in fact. I deal with TFR's nearly every week. My JOB depends on knowing about and correctly interpreting the TFR and other NOTAM data, and I can tell you for a fact that model airplane flying IS definitely prohibited within the boundries of the airspace affected by this TFR, just as Kevin pointed out. No two TFRs are the same. Each has it's own restrictions predicated on the geography, amount and type of traffic and number of airports (traffic density), and the level of perceived or anticipated threat. Face it, a convention such as this makes for a juicy target for a terrorist group or individual, and all they are asking you to do (okay, telling you to do) is to not fly your model airplanes within this rather small and compact area for a few days. The reality of life today is that we do have to worry about these things, because there are people outside of this country (and sneaking around inside of it, too) that want to do us harm, and whether you like it or not, they have managed to bring their battle with us to our front door step. You should see the security issues I have to deal with when I go to work and fly all over the world. The terrorist threat has done quite a bit to take the fun out of my job, and I now look at each and every flight I'm asked to do outside the country with a great deal of serious study and a little anxiety mixed with a dash of paranoia. I do not want to point out the fact that there are many of us that subscribe to this list who could easily make one or more of our models into some very serious weapons. That is a fact, and you better believe that it hasn't escaped the attention of the powers that be... If they can figure that out, so can any reasonably imaginative terrorist. Keith McLellan Gulfstream and Challenger Captain ABE (Allentown, PA) - Original Message - From: Ben Diss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Kevin Sheen' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04 Sheldon- This section does not appear ANYWHERE in the TFR. While I agree that the TFR does contain the words model aircraft I fail to see why the AMA doesn't want us to fly. -Ben RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Hawaii
Any of you guys on here that live on Maui (any MISO guys here?), please get in touch with me directly. Michael Seto, from the San Francisco area, is vacationing there and was not aware that there was good sloping on Maui!!! Anyway, I've got his cell number and he'd like it if someone got in touch with him and let him tag along to check out the soaring there if any of you might be going flying any time this week or weekend. You guys are the best! Keith McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Growing list. Inbox Filters
I agree with Jared. I like the email format better, and my Norton Anti-virus software, along with my spam and spyware blockers have kept me virus and ad free so far. Keith - Original Message - From: Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Marty Timm' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Growing list. Inbox Filters Personally I like the e-mail format. You can already view (and I believe post) to this list, in a forum like environment, form rcgroups.com. Personally I like having all of the e-mail, and it's more convenient than a forum. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] (RCSE) want to buy a 3.7m Sharon V-TAIL
I posted this before, but I'll ask again (one can always hope for a miracle): Anyone out there in thermal land got a 3.7m Sharon v-tail they're willing to part with, preferrably in very good condition? I'll even consider a 3.6m version! I wish I'd never sold my Sharons a few years ago, but you gotta do what you gotta do at the time.. Keith McLellan Allentown, PA
Re: [RCSE] Digital Scales
I have used many scales while working in test laboratories. My all around preference is the old standard Ohaus 2610 g Triple Balance Beam Scale. They're extremely accurate, and with a inexpensive set of calibration weight set, you can easily maintain your scale accuracy with no problems. I am able to mix as little resin as 10 grams of material, and yet stay within the tolerances ofmy epoxy mixing ratios.Generally speaking, your inexpensive digital scales can easily be off by several percentages. That may not be a major concern when mixing resins that require 20 % by weight on an ounce or more of material, but mixing smaller amounts of material, especially materials that require a hardenat 7 % by weight, that's when you begin torun intodifficulties. The majority of the modelers seldom calibrate their scales, and for the most partyou may not experience any noticeable problems if you don't calibrate your scale. However,if you are really concerned about having the exact mixing ratios, and want to insure you have the optimum strength, you may want to consider investing in a scale that will give you the proper accuracies! You can buy a good used triple beam scale for as little as $ 15.00, or near new for about $ 35.00. I have a habit of checking my scale calibration nearly once before using it. I've made three standard weights.My weights range form 10, 30. and 50 grams. If you're really serious about your calibration, you can buy an inexpensive calibration weight sets for about $12.00 I use my three normal standard weights regularly, because that's my normal mixing range.All triple beam scale arequick andeasy to make tare any adjustments. Every time you place any mixing cup on yourscale, you automatically see the tare weight zero out. I also suggest spraying a very light mist of WD-40 on yourplate, thishelps prevent from epoxy build-ups, but be careful, not to over spray with the WD-40. Heavy spraying of WD-40 could affect your scale calibration.It's also best to periodically wipe yourscale down with good old reliable isopropyl rubbing alcohol, or even Windex window cleaner. I suggest Checkingout E-bay. They always have triple beam scales for scale. When you buying anyscale iy's best to clean it, light lube it as required, and always double calibrate the first usage ofany scale, whether it's new or a usedscale before ever using it! I hope all that read this, found some useful information. Keith
[RCSE] JR 347
Thanks for the tips! Yes, it was the fuse. Feeling embarrassed... Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Videos for sale
Now that the soaring season is winding down, why not bring the flying action inside? Going The Distance $14 + shipping International Handlaunch 2000$14 + shipping R/C Airborne Video$10 + shipping 1990 Soaring Nationals $10 + shipping Interested in more than one? Make an offer! -- Keith Love, Milpitas, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Taboo DLG launching technique - rudder mods?
Question: Should my hand/palm be facing forward or backward (like if I did not use a peg at all) when I grip the wing tip? When I use the throwing peg my palm is having forward, the wing is between my first and second fingers, and the peg rests in the first knuckle of my fingers. I have been getting about 50 feet on a toss either way, but I feel like i should be able to put a lot more into it... of course I need to learn the proper technique - any help!!?? I learned my technique on a 43 DLG and got to experiment. When I got the Taboo it was a couple minutes before I was trying full blown launches. Some tips. Do not snap your wrist at release, it adds too much yaw and causes the plane to turn. The wingtips should be the same height off the ground when you release. If the outer tip is high the plane turns left. Whether you are doing a full 360 degree rotation with your body or just starting by facing downwind, as you pivot on your foot your throwing arm should have your elbow straight and the arm is still lagging behind. As you face upwind and plant your upwind foot you sweep you arm forward and you release. My best advice is try it going slow first. Work on technique then start adding speed. About the rudder... I never land at such a speed that the plane travels more than a couple inches on the ground. I did glue the bottom edge of the vertical stab (where it contacts the ground) with CA, both for reinforcement and to keep the water out. Keith Watson Wilsonville, Or RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DLG heights with a Taboo?
I'm lousy at estimating heights. My guess is 80'. But that is every throw all day long. Keith Watson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Second DLG
I am very impressed with the quality of the Taboo. The wing panel dihedral is accurately cut, very little work is needed to finish the wing, the fuselage is a work of art with the fiberglass kevlar and carbon, the balsa tail surfaces are bagged. The plane does not need a gyro or preset to launch straight. Move the CG forward a little bit and it'll do laps around the field -- it really has legs. I have yet to fly it against other planes. But I can crank out 65 second flights in dead air all day long. Sun! We need some sun! :-) Keith Watson Wilsonville, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Windy hill in SF bay area?
At 04:43 PM 3/14/02 -0800, gldr guy wrote: Hi all. Will be back in the SF bay area for a while as I have a 8mos job assignment in the area. We will stay in our RV at Portola Redwoods State Park as the little lady is going to be the camp host there. Went for a drive today and saw that Windy Hill is only 7-8 miles from the park. Is Windy Hill still a viable slope site or has it been closed down by the Open Space Preserve? Thanks, Walter As far as I know it's still viable; you should take a look at this URL: http://www.openspace.org/usepermit.html A permit (and club membership?) are required to fly there... and they do check. Enjoy, Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] airfoils for EPP wings
I do like the carefree nature of EPP wings. Here is a tip for when you start flying with a composite wing -- learn to catch the plane by the nose. Now that I do that I'm much less concerned about putting (more) dents in my composite wing. I agree that the Goblin and Dizzy Bird wings don't penetrate. It acts like it is a high drag wing. Even at slow speeds it sinks through really light stuff. I recently built a Little Nipper style wing for the Goblin: white foam, SD7003, same span but less chord than the Goblin (less area), 1 oz lighter than the Goblin wing. It makes the Goblin a different plane: much better penetration, won't go as slow, doesn't have as much drag (and decent) in light lift. It's a step in the right direction so I'll change some things and try another wing soon. I wonder if I can find some EPP? Actually, there was another one where they built full size man-carrying gliders and launched them off a slope (the idea being to see how far down the slope you could fly). It was a bit scary...one of them got hit by a cross wind gust just as it got a few feet off the ground. There wasn't enough control authority to over come it, and the glider crashed. Luckily, the pilot wasn't injured, but he could have easily been killed if the glider had managed to get higher before it happened. I recall from the replay of that crash that the expert moved the controls into the turn instead of opposite! Keith Watson Wilsonville, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] airfoils for EPP wings
(pardon me if this is a duplicate, I didn't see the previous on get through...) I do like the carefree nature of EPP wings. Here is a tip for when you start flying with a composite wing -- learn to catch the plane by the nose. Now that I do that I'm much less concerned about putting (more) dents in my composite wing. I agree that the Goblin and Dizzy Bird wings don't penetrate. It acts like it is a high drag wing. Even at slow speeds it sinks through really light stuff. I recently built a Little Nipper style wing for the Goblin: white foam, SD7003, same span but less chord than the Goblin (less area), 1 oz lighter than the Goblin wing. It makes the Goblin a different plane: much better penetration, won't go as slow, doesn't have as much drag (and decent) in light lift. It's a step in the right direction so I'll change some things and try another wing soon. I wonder if I can find some EPP? Actually, there was another one where they built full size man-carrying gliders and launched them off a slope (the idea being to see how far down the slope you could fly). It was a bit scary...one of them got hit by a cross wind gust just as it got a few feet off the ground. There wasn't enough control authority to over come it, and the glider crashed. Luckily, the pilot wasn't injured, but he could have easily been killed if the glider had managed to get higher before it happened. I recall from the replay of that crash that the expert moved the controls into the turn instead of opposite! Keith Watson Wilsonville, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Who going to model this Sailplane The LARGEST IN THE WORLD
Tony Elliott, did mention last month while he was attending the Visalia scale event that he modeling the Eta, but he didn't give a completion date. I wonder why he was a little reluctant to project a completion date? He plans to return to Visalia this coming March to with his SB-10. KRS - Original Message - From: Albert Wedworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tony Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: [RCSE] Who going to model this Sailplane The LARGEST IN THE WORLD Hi Guys Check this out. I need one! http://www.eta-aircraft.de/en/news/ Looks like a job for Tony Elliott, ya think? Cheers. AL RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] V-tails, Euro-moldies suck for....
That's why I love my Sharon Profi!!! It has plenty of tail volume, a more acute angle between the tails and handles like a dream for such a big plane! Thermals out from a hand-launch pretty well, too! Keith McLellan Hawaii - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] V-tails, Euro-moldies suck for [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one have comments on how the recent trend of light weight V-tail Euro-molded ships handle in a TD contest? Always hearing they don't fair well in the landing task. But then again the earlier ships were much heavier with higher wing loading. V-tails suck for landings Heavy planes suck for landings... Compared to full flying stabs on light airplanes.. The real issue is design. Most of the european V-tails are not designed to provide enough control authority. If they made the tail bigger and decreased the angle between the tails they would be much better. Put some current conventional tail models into Plane Geometry and then put in some of the European designs. Look at the numbers. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hawaii Pilots are Lucky
For those of you interested in F3F racing, there is a move on to try to secure a site on Maui for the 2002 Viking Race (kinda the unofficial F3F World Championship). If we pull it off, who's coming? Keith McLellan Hawaii - Original Message - From: "Bill Swingle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] Hawaii Pilots are Lucky The slope pilots in Hawaii are driving me crazy. Bikini babes, whales in the background, beautiful slopes, wind all the time, great temperatures... It ain't fair! Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] A note of interest for the F3J guys.
These are the kind of thoughts I had when I first read the post about the rule change. Flying in my one and only F3J contest a few years ago in England with a local club northeast of London, I saw that the most competitive pilots were flying very light weight, long-span gliders, towed up on light, stretchy mono (and where possible by guys who could run fast and were not all that big). They were using one-man tows, straight ahead, no pulleys, etc. Keith McLellan Hawaii - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] A note of interest for the F3J guys. I think there is no easy solution and banning tethered lines in very understandable to prevent similiar accidents in the future. For those not familiar with F3J towing (many in the US): you only have 5 minutes to run out on the field, stake your lines, and prepare before the flight. This process is often hurried and introduces some very real dangers. So, If everyone uses two towmen pulling straight (without a pulley) will it change the competitive advantage of having two big and strong guys? Kinda, in no wind to light wind situations you will want towmen that can run fast as well. They won't need to be quite as big because they now only have the tension of the plane, not 2X. The difference between "good" towmen and "bad" towmen will be more noticeable when not using a pulley, especially in light conditions. Since you won't be able to get line speed needed in no wind/light wind conditons having a specialized "light air" plane in your 3 airplane quiver would be advantagous (more so than previously) to make the most of the tension you do have. Does this change the weight of the line you would use? Maybe, I might try something extra light and stretchy in those no/light wind situations. Did I miss any possible stratedgy changes this might introduce? Mark Taylor Tower for Team US and Team Ukraine at 2000 World Champs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] A note of interest for the F3J guys ( gals, if appropro.) This does not sound well thought out... In the two man option the man who runs with the pulley is gonna get WHAPPED HARD if the man who is acting as the "spike" looses grip. Tows with out a staked in pulley, if even by two average men takes about twice the exertion to even getting close to what we think of as a competitive tow. Time for a different set of models now, and damn is that expensive. I personally liked it the way it was, maybe they should have spec'ed the equipment we should use or something a bit less drastic. Jim At 04:26 PM 3/25/2001, Les Grammer wrote: Off of the FAI exchange came the following announcement: _ British Association of Radio Control Soarers Thanks to Nick Neve UK delegate to CIAM Meeting for the information and to Chris Bishop, Chairman of BMFA SFTC who wrote the following:- Major change. With immediate effect as of Monday 26th March the F3B F3J rules will prohibit the tethering to the ground of any hand towline while towing. Two man towing is still is OK, as is the use of pulleys. Winch turnaround pulleys and bungee stakes are not affected by this ruling. Although this was not on the published CIAM agenda it was obvious that the subject of stakes and pulley towing was going to be discussed following the tragic death last year in Slovakia. This change has been introduced on the grounds of safety following that event. There had been late proposal from the Swiss backed by various other countries to introduce winches. It was unanimously (nearly) felt that banning the stake was a better solution and that F3J would not loses it's identity as a hand towed only event. For those able to get out and practice it gives you something to think about. Quite a few fliers have already come to realise that in windy conditions there is little to be gained from using a pulley and that a straight two man tow gives equal if not better results. In calm/light wind conditions one tower will now act as the stake but with the option of increasing the line speed by moving away from the tower with the pulley. There were no other major changes. Full details will be posted on the FAI web-site next week. There will also be a statement issued on participation in non FAI sanctioned International events. There's nothing new here but it will clarify the situation. Chris Bishop Chairman SFTC -Les Grammer, NWSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model A
Re: [RCSE] beauty is only skin deep.
Hey there, Karlton. I'm with you! Look at the intro to the LSF site. It refers to the aesthetic beauty of soaring in the opening lines: "A slim, graceful, long-winged craft arcs upward smoothly and steeply into the summer sky, accompanied only by the faint whistle of air accelerating past its gleaming surfaces.". While Bill is correct in stating that you don't get points for your glider's "looks" in a contest, you will earn the admiration of your fellow pilots for a clean, well built and beautifully finished model, regardless of type! Some of the lightest, strongest and best engineered models I've seen, and that includes good 'ol fashioned built up models, were also the most beautifully finished models. It shows a real attention to detail and a striving for technical excellence when someone goes to the trouble of engineering and then finishing a plane so that it looks as good as it flies, two goals that are not often compatible. Besides, a good looking plane is jus' w cl... :-) Keith M Hawaii - Original Message - From: "Bill Johns" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: [RCSE] beauty is only skin deep. At 06:22 PM 2/26/2001 -0800, Karlton Spindle wrote: This is an aesthetic sport and L@@KS do count... ...for what? They give points for time, sometimes for speed around pylons, sometimes for precision landings. I've not seen anyone, anywhere give beauty points. And if you don't pile on gobs of paint, the plane will weigh less and go higher and you can't tell it's ugly when it's 500 feet over your head. Bill -- There is no such thing as a pretty good alligator wrestler. Bill Johns Pullman, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SouthWest Classic 2001 - Team 'N Sink Picture Pages
Skip's photos are great, but does anyone have any photos of the whole group? There are a bunch of us that are cut off on the right of the group photos on Skip's page. Keith M Hawaii - Original Message - From: "Skip Richards" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: [RCSE] SouthWest Classic 2001 - Team 'N Sink Picture Pages Team 'N Sink had a great time at this year's SWC... Finally got the new Hera flying (Just barely, like the day before!) First round was literally the first time it had been winch launched... had about 20 launches off my super highstart the day before. So, we had a pop-off, and spent a couple of rounds getting the plane tuned... Watch out next year! Hope you enjoy the pictures: http://members.home.com/skip.richards/swc01/page_01.htm http://members.home.com/skip.richards/swc01/page_02.htm BTW, Netscape seems to read these pages ok, but I checked with MS IE and had trouble with Page_01. Let me know if anyone experiences the problems I did with IE having trouble with the links on the bottom of the first page. Check out JOE WURTZ in the big group photo - His sailplane looks like it's balanced on his finger tips and is a good foot higher than the rest of the crowd - and he's NOT that tall - no offence Joe! Skip "Team 'N Sink" Richards +---+ ** ** **Skip Richards - WB7VXM ** ** Phoenix, AZ ** ** AMA 536167 ** ** ** ** http://members.home.net/skip.richards/ ** ** ** +---+ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SouthWest Classic 2001 - Team 'N Sink Picture Pages
My apologies to Skip! In my haste to view evrything on his site, it never
occurred to me to scroll horizontally when viewing the panoramic group
shots!! Great photos, Skip!! However, for some reason, when I click on the
first ("full size") photo link, it won't load for me, though all the others
do.
Keith M
Hawaii
- Original Message -
From: "Skip Richards" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Keith McLellan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] SouthWest Classic 2001 - Team 'N Sink Picture Pages
Keith, not sure what you mean... Are you talking about the panorama
group shot. If so, scroll to the right... they're there! If it's
another shot, let me know what the caption says and I'll go check it
out on the original picture.
Skip
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:00:06 -1000, you wrote:
Skip's photos are great, but does anyone have any photos of the whole
group?
There are a bunch of us that are cut off on the right of the group photos
on
Skip's page.
Keith M
Hawaii
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[RCSE] Crossing the launch area....
"Circling in the launch area is dumb, dangerous, and selfish. On rare occasions, it may be necessary to cross the launch area when out of lift, altitude, and ideas but the pilot does so at his own risk." -Chuck Anderson and at risk to everyone else trying to launch, too! It is never "necessary" to cross the launch area at low altitude. Just "be a man", :-) and accept that you blew it and land out instead of selfishly delaying the launch cycle, risking a midair or fouled winch line or even possible injury to others. A pilot should be smart enough to know when it's time to head out if he or she is working a part of the sky that places the launch area between the glider and the landing area. Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] highstart and backside air
Dieter, I'll just make sure to bring my toxic waste disposal gloves and maybe an anti-radiation suit for good measure! Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [RCSE] Landings: a complete waste of time?
- Original Message - From: "Keith McLellan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Dennis Phelan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Landings: "a complete waste of time"? Dudes, I'm not a skeg guy but you're missing one point. How many seconds was he off the "Mark" when he touched down? Dennis Milt was off 8 sec on his worst attempt, and probably on average about 3 to 4 secs. Mine were on average within 2 secs. That's stopping the time on touchdown, not when the model stopped sliding, though at best that was only 1 to 3 sec. Why doesn't everyone just go out and TRY it? I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised! Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] (RCSE) Landings, etc., etc.......
I'm planning on holding a TD contest sometime next year with a precision landing task that will be a "real" test of skill: a 1.5m wide "runway" that is 7m long - if the nose of the model stops anywhere in the first 2m it's 25pts., in the second it's 50pts, in the 3rd it's 75pts. and in the last meter 100pts., with a big ZERO for going past the end of the runway or for landing "short". Now for the real "ba--buster"! The ENTIRE fuselage of the model (includes the bottom of the trailing edge of the rudder) must rest within the 1.5m lateral boundaries of the runway! So that means no coming in from the side, or landing outside and spinning or sliding your nose into the box. Won't work here. You'll have to be able to accurately fly your plane precisely down a centerline to a controlled landing. If there is a crosswind, well then you better know how to coordinate rudder and ailerons properly (gee, we have to do that with power planes all the time). Too much of a challenge? Oh, well. There's a bunch of guys in SoCal that have been doing this for years with slope gliders of all kinds, without the benefit of flaps or "crow", etc. and going a lot faster than most TD ships will ever have to on landing. Now, that's just the landing task! The soaring tasks will be just as creative! First round is a 7 min "warm up" duration with the precision landing, with 1pt per second deducted for up to 10 sec off the mark, and 2pt per sec for 11 up to 20 sec off, and finally, 3pt per sec for anything over 20 sec off the mark. The second round will consist of a 12 min task and precision landing, with the same scoring. The third will be a 10 min task with precision landing, but will have the added challenge of having a prescribed path to be flown after launch before being able to chase thermals (and yes, that means if you fly through a thermal before you complete that path, you just have to keep going until you reach the "release point" at the end of that flight path). The flight path chosen will be very easy to fly and to enforce, and relatively short. So there you have it folks! Anyone interested in competing in such an event, email me offline. I'd like to hold this contest someplace in SoCal this summer, but I'll consider going to any field in the country and CDing it personally, with support from any club willing to host it! The contest could be flown as a two day "IronMan" event with additional tasks that I have thought of to test the all around skills of the pilots involved. Any takers? Keith M Hawaii ...have jet, will travel. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Al the bag lady
I need to get in touch with Al the Bag Lady! I've lost his email address and phone number! Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DS'ing -- Achievement program
A small elite group of true combat pilots had a similar name back in the late 80's, taken from the place we used to fly that looked over the bay inside of Newport Beach: "Bad Boys of Back Bay" We flew an unusual little 50" composite model called the "Air-Tic" (once it gets on you it can't be shaken off)! It was designed and mostly built by Ed Resetar, who works for Porsche now (he was part of the group that put out the new Carrera GT that was just unveiled in Europe a few months ago). He would only build them for those he felt were capable of and willing to fly them as aggressively as they could be flown, which was very aggressively! The Air-Tic could also take quite a bit of punishment, more so than any other design we flew against back then. We used to fly as a 4 or 5 man team and combat against other groups of guys flying various designs. We never lost a combat as a team! And we flew "real" combat, where all hits had to be made from a rear quarter, no "T-bones" or head-ons". It took a considerable amount of skill to consistently be able to score hits, and forced everyone to really learn energy management and aerial combat tactics similar to those employed by real fighter pilots (lag and lead rolls, yo-yo's, scissor maneuvers, etc.). I've watched so many of today's combat events and don't see any of that, just big furballs where everyone seems to be more into enjoying the amount of damage wreaked from out of control impacts than the deep satisfaction of a kill prosecuted with skill, cunning, and very good aerobatic flying. And believe it or not, it actually draws quite a crowd when two or more teams are flying in a defined area with judges and timers, etc. Very similar rush to Man on Man slope racing! Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Rudder Rolls in History
The 727 you refer to was flown by none other than, well, come to think of it, I won't say his name here, but for those of us who have been in the aviation business and working for the airlines in particular, he was well known. It was definitely not an intentional roll, but was the result of an unintentional deployment of certain leading edge devices, which was in turn a result of the action of a crewmember who was not in the cockpit while the captain manually deployed flaps in a non-approved configuration in order to create a little more lift with minimum drag, back in the days when the first OPEC scare was going on and fuel prices were at a then all time high. The crewmember came in and saw an abnormal indication on a circuit breaker panel and without thinking, simply reached over and pushed in the C.B.'s resulting in asymmetric deployment of the deactivated leading edge devices. At the high sub-sonic cruise speed, that resulted in the infamous roll (actually, I seem to remember that it was several rolls). It was all the captain could do to regain control of the aircraft because the departure from controlled flight resulted in a Mach overspeed situation and he got back control only after deploying speed brakes and then the landing gear (which at those speeds was way beyond normal operating parameters and of course just ripped the gear doors off). He also lost something like 30,000 feet or so of altitude in the recovery! Subsequent inspection of the airframe after landing revealed the fuselage was severely cracked just forward of the tail! Boeing has always built strong airplanes! This was borne out several years ago when the China Airlines crew (I think that was the airline) inadvertently rolled their 747 three times after stalling it at altitude, hitting Mach 1 on the way down and tearing the tips of the horizontal stab (it was also bent up quite a bit)! I saw the airplane at the airport the day it arrived. What a sight! Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] buying in Europe
Rich is absolutely right about all this! I travel to Europe fairly often and have found what he said to be true most of the time. You can buy almost anything here at home for a lot less than it would actually cost you to buy it over there! AND you are covered by shipping insurance, etc. With vendors such as Tom Copp (see F3X.com), and John Derstine (Sailplanes Unlimited for your scale stuff), why you would want to go through the nightmare of getting something from Europe on your own beats me! And just try getting all your V.A.T. back! Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Problem with receiver
Years ago I had to deal with problems with board-mounted ni-cads leaking on circuit boards and causing similar corrosion and build-up. I talked with a chemist about it and he said to use ethylene glycol (anti-freeze) to disolve the salts, brush well, and then wash with soap and water. Dry thoroughly. Worked for me. Keith C. I examined it and found that the white protecting material inside the case had a curious felle like it was humid and I found some light corrosion on the PC board. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] How should an HLG launch?
I've never tried HLG before. Before I break something... My first attempts last night with my brand new Orion were fine for light throws, but my last throw seemed to indicate too much negative stab incidence. I had to use down elevator to maintain about a 45 deg. climb, then almost lost it when the wind turned it towards the power lines. Should launches go basically in the direction of the throw? I'm going to try shimming the stab and try at lunch, but I'm not sure what to expect. Keith C. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Painting mylars and graphics
I've read where builders sometimes paint the mylars before glassing foam-core wings. Should the mylars be waxed first? (silicone-free wax) Should the paint be allowed to dry? I've also encountered a website where graphics were printed from a computer, and transferred to the plane. The name "Panache" was done this way on the plane shown as an example. Can anyone direct me to the website? I can't seem to find it now. Also, a belated thanks to those who have responded to my questions over the last 6 weeks. I've been scratch-building an HLG, sort of kit-bashing the Terminator. I have 3 cores cut, a proto fuse pod, mylars ready for the next step, and plenty of patience. In the meantime, I purchased an Orion ARF from an RCSE member. What beautiful workmanship on this plane! It should be ready for the weekend. Keith C. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SPELLING
Okay, what is it with all of you who don't know how to spell "losing", you know, the word which is similar to "lost"! It's not "loosing"!!! AAARGH! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sharon
I have another Sharon that I might be willing to sell. It's my #1 contest ship, but a certain distributor may sponsor me with 2 new planes for Visalia, in which case I'll be willing to sell it. The price would be $1250, shipped. Interested? It's only been flown mabe 15 flights or so. Absolutely flawless, and has wipers installed for the flaps and ailerons (Sharons don't normally have them), as well as custom made, tape-on skegs. All Volz Micro-Maxx servos installed. Keith M 877-436-8096 toll free RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] servos going bad
Volz servos can go bad, MPX servos can go bad, JR servos can go bad, Futaba servos can go bad, receivers can go bad, Cars can go bad, houses can go bad, Rolex watch can go bad, 2 out of 4 marriages go bad. That's just the way thing are! You are s right! Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Reno Air Races/fun fly???
Count me in!!! I'll probably have a light twin that I can haul a few models in for those that want to join up and fly with me to Reno from Santa Monica or Orange County. Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Volz servos
I HAVE noticed some centering issues that seem to be related to large temperature changes, but it was always very minor. What is a large temperature change in Hawaii? 8-) Sometimes in Chicago we have to use the heat and the air conditioning in the same day! We get 15 deg F changes from morning to late afternoon, and I do carry my planes with me all over the country on a regular basis. Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 2M Super V
Here we go again The 2M Super V seems to be the standard of comparison as far as launch. This is again a VERY subjective viewpoint! Ever see Joe W. launch his Maple Leaf Image? Ever travel to Europe and see some of the Euro molded or foam core/bagged 2 meters launch and fly? I hate to inform you, but there is a whole WORLD of R/C pilots and designers/builders out there that I'm sure don't share your view! The Super V series of gliders are well designed and fly great, but I have flown them myself and believe me, in my travels around the country and the world, I have seen many other designs that fly as good or better! As has been stated several times before by some world class pilots on this exchange, the performance (including launch performance) of any model is highly dependant not only on its basic design, but to a great extent on how it is finished and trimmed/set up by the builder (overall weight and proper installation of radio gear, C.G. and towhook placement, control surface throws and mixing, etc.). Keith M Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Need help on HLG design and lay-up materials
I intend to invest some time in building an HLG from scratch. I have a tested hot-wire and vacbag setup. I have foam, airfoil software and templates. What I don't have, or know what to order, is material for covering the wings and fuselage. I see information about 1.5 oz glass, and then "finish" with 4 oz. I've seen info about using mylar for a smooth finish, but I've not been able to find info about what weight glass to use, or whether one or two or more layers are needed. I'm guessing 1.5 oz on the bias would be OK, as long as I'm a good flyer, (yeah, sure). I never built an HLG kit, since I'm too poor/cheap, so I don't have any first hand experience. I know enough about general layup from a full-size project many years ago, but I could use some structural help here. I prefer glass to carbon or Kevlar due to the price, but I may splurge if it's really important. Also, what are the possibilities of using a Dubro mechanical mixer for a V-tail. I don't have a mixing radio at present (though I'm sort of looking for one). Keith Crippen __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Super V
As a matter of fact, I just traded 2 of my personal stock for 2 molded planes! I won't mention the new owner but he has won both Mid South and TNT more than once! Let's think about this, $1300 worth of molded planes for 2 "out of date" 2M's. Does this sound odd? Not in my way of thinking. I talked to Mark Levoe right after he quit production. He had an almost 8 month backlog. I like many feel the plane died an untimely death. Fortunately this can be rectified IF there is enough interest. George, Watching this thread develop, I have to add this comment: It seems to me that the interest in the Super V seems to be primarily in the 2M model and not the larger one. The interest also seems very much a regional thing, much like the Predator XL and Predator 4 by Dave Hill of Hawaii (he's my neighbor). I've only seen one Super V in all the contests (especially the big ones) I've been to in the Southwestern U.S. in the last two years. In fact, favorite models seem to be even more localized by club! In just the Southern California area alone, I've seen distinctive patterns with regard to most popular model vs. club location, especially when certain builders or dealers/distributors are prominantly located nearby. I don't know if this stands out for me more than most because I travel for a living and have the opportunity to fly with various groups and clubs around the country and the world, but think about it. It makes sense doesn't it? Keith M Mililani, Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Greece and World Championships
This is just a bit off-topic, but with the F3J team headed for Corfu, I thought most would find it interesting and I hope a good omen, if you believe in that sort of thing: Sport: Hang Gliding Title: 7th World Hang Gliding Championship for Women Type : World Championship Date: 16.06 - 24.06 2000 Location: Beotia, Greece Final Results : 1st : Kari CASTLE USA 3347 2nd : Francoise MOCELIN France 3205 3rd : Neva BULL Australia 3012 Team results : 1st : Germany 8206 2nd : France 7745 3rd : USA 7479 The full resutls can be found at the following address : http://events.fai.org/hgpg/wchgw2000/index.asp Makes you think "hmm"! *grin*Go USA!!!! Keith McLellan Mililani, Hawaii RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Emerald
Is there a web site where I might view pics of and specs on the Emerald? Who carries the kit? Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Launch Height
Hey guys, I played football for 6 years, do a lot of flying of real airplanes of all types and I can tell you that it is very easy for me to determine within a few feet what 30 yards or 30 meters looks like, and now that I'm at Poway myself, there are many who are getting damn close to and sometimes more than 30 meters launch height! I'm just amazed at how many of you doubt these numbers! It brings to mind several questions I would ask of you doubters: How old are you? What kind of shape are you in? How athletic are you? How long are your arms? What kind of throwing technique do you practice? Telephone poles around here are typically about 60 feet high, and nearly everyone here at Poway is throwing at least 50% higher than the one next to the pit area, and many are 100% higher in the wind. Just because you don't think you can do something, don't doubt those who can!!! Keith M (Flame Suit ON) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Millenium sold
The Millenium is sold. Thanks for all the inquiries! Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Millenium for Sale
For Sale: NIB, RnR Millenium (V-tail). Wings completely finished with 4 Volz Wing-Maxx servos installed and all linkage connected. Electrical connectors and wiring already installed in the fuse, ready to plug into your Rx (Airtronics type connectors). No pushrods or radio gear in the fuse. V-tail joiners and pins installed, just need to glue control horns to the elevators. Custom finish: Bottom of wings and stabs are dark Blue, Fuse and tops of wings are white, with bright Red "brush strokes" on wing tips and stab tips. $800 firm, plus shipping. Keith 808-625-1810 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] spoilers
I forgot to mention also, for those who never flew with spoilers, when landing down wind , the spoilers can actually SPEED THE PLANE UP, or the plane maintain its energy( not slow down), depending on the wind speed and size of the spoilers. Imagine the spoiler raising up and opening the bay so the wind can get cupped in open bay. Doesnt take a rookie to have this happen to them. I think you'd better go back and study basic aerodynamics and maybe start with one of the soaring manuals for student pilots, because what you've said here is very misleading to someone who doesn't know better or is just starting out in this hobby Keith M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] C.G.
I know someone probably posted the info here sometime in the past, but I wasn't looking for it then. Could someone please tell me where the C.G. range is on a Thermal Eagle. TIA! Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Team support - 3 questions
Spoken like a true Champ. World Class! Keith M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] FS: battery cycler/charger
ACE DIGIPACE II Advanced Ni-CD Battery Management System Battery charger and cycler; simultaneously handles both Rx and Tx batteries. Three different charge currents, two discharge currents. (If you're not cycling your Ni-CD's, you should be!) $75 OBO Keith Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] So. Cal Slope Racers out there?
Okay, Jerry! I registered, I voted..I'm ready to race!Unlimited Class Rules! Hey, Tim! Check six!!! Keith M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Molded RDS pockets. . .problems.
Right on Dave! Keith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Bonito
Hello All, Anybody out there have an extra wing for the Multiplex Bonito that they would like to part with? I have been flying this great kit from Multiplex for a couple of months now and the wing is showing the effects of my learning curve. Please contact me if you have one that you are willing to part with. Thanks! Keith Lutz Olympia, WA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
