[RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site (and goodbye RCSE)

[Paul Emerson]

REDACTION: The google group is superior. Disregard the effort of creating a
new list.




On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Paul Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *The 2M Image is gone... Don is there a new Image in R&D?
> :-)*
>
> Wait, I just read up on the demise of RCSE. If Gordy is elected president,
> he can fix this with our tax dollars.
> Is there no free/cheap list server out there that we could auto-subscribe
> us all to a new address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some of you
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>
> *In closing, Two Meters rule.
>
> Paul
> www.casl.net
> www.emersunn.com
> *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Nave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Greetings...
>>
>> Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new
>> site up.
>>
>> Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com
>>
>> Joe
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[RCSE] Maple Leaf Design - New Site (and goodbye RCSE)

[Paul Emerson]

*The 2M Image is gone... Don is there a new Image in R&D?
:-)*

Wait, I just read up on the demise of RCSE. If Gordy is elected president,
he can fix this with our tax dollars.
Is there no free/cheap list server out there that we could auto-subscribe us
all to a new address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know some of you have
the mad internet skills and tools to make this happen. Or someone can pony
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http://www.phplist.com installed on your host.

*In closing, Two Meters rule.

Paul
www.casl.net
www.emersunn.com
*



On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Nave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings...
>
> Maple Leaf Design, the makers of the Encore DLG and the Icon2 have a new
> site up.
>
> Check it out: www.mapleleafdesign.com
>
> Joe
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RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

[Paul Sherman]

It has been a great time and many new friends found

See you all out there in the thermals beyond!!


Paul Sherman

P.S.

I need contact information for the Indiana boys as I have located a trophy 
that needs to be mailed to the new champion of the State.


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[RCSE] Join Radio Carbon Art's E-Mail List

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Thanks for 10 years of support, fun, and knowledge.

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[RCSE] Gordy's Sand Dollars

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

Gordy!!  For heavens sake WHAT has making dollars with radio control 
beach cleaners have to do with Radio Control Soaring--have you lost your 
creativity !!??  What a bummer! 

This post!?  I am announcing I am going to be slope soaring my tired/ 
Blushing /Taboo up the west coast of Japan as well as a L.A. /Scrappy 
/(mini zagi like wing made from scraps--now that is creativity, Gordy) 
that my son Jonathan built and gave me for a Father's Day past!  So 
there, Gordy.  From the Isles BEYOND Hawaii, Gordy!!  (Gordy doesn't 
know Japan from Hawaii any more than he knows the difference between 
beer and barley pops!  Skypilot

[RCSE] Paging Dr. Drela

[Paul Sherman]

Dr. Drela,

General Atomics is working on a new aircraft concept that I would like to 
discuss with you.


Regards,

Paul Sherman


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[RCSE] WOW! Way to go Johnny!!!!

[Paul Sherman]

Great accomplishment!!


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[RCSE] Vendors at NATS?

[Paul Naton]

I'm trying to find out the names of any vendors that will be selling stuff at 
the upcoming
NATS.

The AMA store has some overstock of some soaring items and they are interested 
in
having a soaring related vendor at the event help them out selling the items.

Please  contact me if you can help identify any sellers.

There have been some shake-ups at AMA concerning retail items.
You will no longer get a catalog before christmas!

Thanks!









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[RCSE] Polecat Challenge F3K Video Clips-Watch

[Paul Naton]

I have put up 2 clips from the recent Polecat Challenge F3K contest on my
growing YouTube soaring channel.

You will se Bruce Davidson and Paul Andserson flying and talking up some great 
hints.
Fun stuff, check it out.  Heres the link:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=pnaton&p=r


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[RCSE] contact

[paul bell]

jeff steiffel - r u out there?  please send email.  p bell

[RCSE] F3J Team Fund Raising Week at Radio Carbon Art!

[Paul Naton]

I will donate up to 10% of this week's sales for to help the US
F3J team get to Turkey for the FAI Worlds.

The team needs another 15K to meet their financing needs.

I have a goal of donating at least $300.00, but that means you guys have to
step up and get some of the DVDs you have been needing, wanting, yerning to get.

How about the new Scale Soaring DVD, Performance Tuning,
or the Radio Clinic For Sailplanes?

You can get 3 DVDs for $64.95, or 5 for $99.95.

Order this week, May 12-16th, to count towards the donation goal.

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[RCSE] gordys batteries

[paul bell]

gee gordy i seem to remember that u launched with low batteries at the syosset 
contest last year with rather alarming results. paul bell

ps.  thanks to you  who responded to my dlg wing request.  i have one.

[RCSE] midsouth registration

[Paul Perret]

Midsouth,s registration still won,t download, and
there are no contacts listed.
Paul


  

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[RCSE] dlg wing

[paul bell]

i need a dlg wing.  single pin front, one blot (oops - already did that) bolt 
aft.  paul bell

[RCSE] f3j fundraiser

[paul bell]

i bought a shirt - does that count?  pb

[RCSE] F/S New Spektrum/JR DX-7 With AR-7000 - 2.4 System

[Paul Naton]

New Spektrum/JR DX-7 With AR-7000 - 2.4 System

I have a new Spektrum DX-7 radio with an AR-7000 receiver for sale.

This radio was purchased for demonstrating 2.4 technology for my Radio Clinic 
training DVD.

Radio as about 3 hours of studio use and 1 hour of outdoor flight testing use 
and
both radio & receiver are in like-new condition. Battery has been cycled 
properly.

Radio includes charger, binding cord, nylon carry case, manual, and AR receiver.
No original packaging is available. Only items listed above.

Also included is a copy of my Radio Programming Clinic DVD, a 25.00 value.
http://radiocarbonart.com/Pages/Radiomain.html

Asking $250.00 for all. I take PayPal and/or other forms of payment to be 
arranged.
Shipping via Priority mail is $8.95.

Photos: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=857026

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[RCSE] Stylus Sold

[Paul Naton]

That went quick

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[RCSE] F/S Airtronics Stylus with all cards.

[Paul Naton]

For Sale Airtronics Stylus with all cards.

Hate to sell my trusty Stylus, but I need funds for a new F3B plane.
Still the best sailplane radio IMHO.  A great machine for anyone needing
to step up their radio capability. 

Stylus with glider and 50 model memory cards.  Radio is well used but also
well cared for.  Internal battery changed and radio tuned by Airtronics last 
year.

Includes:  2 cards, wall charger, manuals, carry case, extra antenna.
Channel 55 72mhz FM module.  Battery is newer 700 mah in great shape.

There are lots of programs on the card to get you started.

You can see pictures on rc groups here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=857037#post9659836

Asking $300.00 plus 9.00 priority mail shipping.
I take Paypal or other forms of by arrangement.

Contact me via e-mail, or at 888-834-2261

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[RCSE] GORDY POETRY

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

Gordy takes more poetic license than the average, sure!  It took him 
five years of posting me to be able to spell Hawaii as J A P A N !!  He 
was always into too many barley pops, he said, to know the difference.  
You say "Thank God!" for the Gordys--if we can't laugh, we are poor 
indeed & there is no pill, no substitute medicine !!  "Hi!" Gordy!  
--Sky Pilot

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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #11128

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

Do you mean this is how we are suppose to read Gordy--/wakarimashita/!!  
Sky Pilot


Soaring wrote:

SoaringMon, 28 Apr 2008Volume 1 : Number 11128

In this issue:

Re: written communication nuances 
RE: [RCSE] Re: written communication nuances



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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:50:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: written communication nuances 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


That's what education was for. We're supposed to know how to read and write effectively. If we can't write with nuances, we can't write jokes. 


If someone is reading one of my posts and steam starts coming out of their 
ears, most of the time they can most easily remedy this by reading it again, 
carefully. It's not that I don't make a big mistake once in a while, but 
generally I'm just trying to lead the reader a ways down the garden path before 
revealing the punchline. Also, generally, I read the messages over several 
times before sending them.

(hint: If you see words like "organic", "idiot", "goat", "vegan", "cannibal", 
"unobtainium", "bozo", etc., be suspicious. Chances are I'm pulling your leg. Unless I'm talking about CJD, kuru, etc. Or 
politics. Come to think of it, is there much difference?)
Carlos Reyes wrote:
This is a surprisingly common problem. I read a research report once that 
studied the effectiveness of written communication. I forget the exact details, 
but a major finding was that most of the time the reader *thinks* they 
understood the intended  meaning and emotion, when in fact they didn't. I've 
learned to be careful in jumping to conclusions and to be very clear in what I 
write.

--

Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:56:23 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Re: written communication nuances
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I agree, but most do not read, but rather skim the text, read what they
think they are reading, and then answer without knowing even their side.

My addage:  It is better to not answer and let people think you are an
"idiot", than to reply, and remove all doubt.

Chris

  

 Original Message 
Subject: [RCSE] Re: written communication nuances
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, April 28, 2008 3:50 pm
To: Soaring@airage.com

That's what education was for. We're supposed to know how to read and write effectively. If we can't write with nuances, we can't write jokes. 


If someone is reading one of my posts and steam starts coming out of their 
ears, most of the time they can most easily remedy this by reading it again, 
carefully. It's not that I don't make a big mistake once in a while, but 
generally I'm just trying to lead the reader a ways down the garden path before 
revealing the punchline. Also, generally, I read the messages over several 
times before sending them.

(hint: If you see words like "organic", "idiot", "goat", "vegan", "cannibal", 
"unobtainium", "bozo", etc., be suspicious. Chances are I'm pulling your leg. Unless I'm talking about CJD, kuru, etc. Or 
politics. Come to think of it, is there much difference?)
Carlos Reyes wrote:
This is a surprisingly common problem. I read a research report once that 
studied the effectiveness of written communication. I forget the exact details, 
but a major finding was that most of the time the reader *thinks* they 
understood the intended  meaning and emotion, when in fact they didn't. I've 
learned to be careful in jumping to conclusions and to be very clear in what I 
write.
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End of Soaring V1 #11128

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[RCSE] SASS Help!! "Keeping Sixty Acres South for the Greater Community's Good"

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

"Thank You!" LSF Officers for the fine post to the King County Council 
Members!  Below is _some_ of my edited post!  We need to let them KNOW 
NOW that SASS is US !! NOT just them and this is an activity that DOES 
involve all ages and families.  I have done it in my own way and you 
can help by posting your own messages!  "I have researched RCHLG/DHL 
history for a book on its relatively short existence--Since 1979.  
Whereas the beginnings are a Southern California phenomena it quickly 
developed exponentially into an international part of RC Soaring.  
After a yet long ongoing process there will be  be a World 
Championship in Europe in 2009 or 2011 under the auspices of the 
Commission Internationale Aeromodelling/Federation Aeronautique 
Internationale  (CIAM/FAI), and will be attended by a number of our US 
pilots.  From the1979 origin, through the innovator (known in the 
hobby as The Ole'Buzzard, Dave Thornburg) attending a CIAM/FAI World's 
Championship for RC gliders (similar to the larger gliders flown at 60 
Acres) with his prototype RCHLG in France there was the subsequent 
birthing of RCHLG in Europe.  One of today's prominent Japanese in RC 
Soaring was attending the same international competition and returned 
to Japan and introduced RCHLG here!  I have been a part of its 
becoming here in Japan what at one point was called /Hand Launch 
Mania/.  *Meanwhile* !!  Three parties particular to SASS became a 
*/force'majeure/* in  this international community of RC sailplane 
enthusiasts with their introduction of MAJOR changes in the hobby 
through launch technique and in aircraft design, an evolution in 
launch technique that required equally radical design changes.  The 
change from a so called/ javelin launch/ (physically distressful) to 
the /discus launch/ (tripling launch heights and making it possible 
for youngsters, the less physically endowed and especially older 
pilots to enjoy flying) revolutionized this art-form when one SASS 
pilot, Dick Barker, showed up at the 2000 International Hand Launch 
Glider Festival competing with his own innovative design and discus 
launching.  At the next year's IHLGF everyone was doing it; and I was, 
too, with a Dick Barker custom built sailplane !!  Phil Pearson, 
another SASS pilot who had introduced the Side Arm Launch, SAL, the 
precursor to the DHL, continued with advancing the RCDHL design which 
became a hobby standard.  /Red /Weston as an entrepreneurial pilot has 
been another of the SASS RCDHL pilots responsible for the popularity 
of RCDHL and known to us all!  The whole WORLD knows what & where 60 
Acres IS, we DO,  and what has and IS happening there!


"I am reminded of how in Southern California it became necessary for 
us across the United States and around the world as a part of the 
soaring flight community to come together over against developers and 
fight to maintain Torrey Pines as an American ALL gliding flight 
HISTORICAL site (so designated today)  for Full-Scale, Para Sailing 
and RC Soaring as it is as historic to sailplaning in America as is 
Elmira, New York--both are Meccas for silent flight soaring in America 
and the WORLD.  It is quite easy to understand how you could see the 
SASS as just a local group--and as just a bunch of kids who didn't 
grow-up playing with their toys--selfishly trying to push their own 
agenda--they are a part of us, lobbying for our kids and families!  In 
our minds, as an international community, let alone the USA, in your 
OWN back yard you have a site and a club, the SASS, that is virtually 
as important to our RC Soaring community as is Torrey Pines and the 
Torrey Pines Gulls, the IHLGF sponsors!  The singular nature of 60 
Acres as unique to our pastime has been rehearsed for you before--in 
that respect, it is not just about being there, it is about its 
uniquely meeting meteorological requirements for sailplane flying, 
making it one of the best fields in America for RC Soaring, and the 
unreasonable possibility of coming up with an alternate site."


Let SASS know we appreciate them; LET KING COUNTY KNOW . . .   --Sky 
Pilot (Yes! I am still around!!!)

[RCSE] Mid South

[Paul Perret]

Is Mid South going to happen?
Paul


  

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[RCSE] Thanks for all the input!

[Paul Sherman]

My use will be for full size airplanes-

Thanks for the input, this gives me a good start.


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[RCSE] Hinge Tape

[Paul Sherman]

I am looking for a bullet proof hinge tape manufacturer.

If you have information shoot me an e-mail.

Thanks-

Paul Sherman


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[RCSE] New Movie Showcases Big-Ass Scale Gliders

[Paul Naton]

They are Big. They are fast. They are gorgeous. They are expensive.
And so very cool.

My latest film/DVD -The Best of Scale Soaring- features big-ass gliders
flown by North America's top pilots.

The soaring film taken to a new level,
a DVD every glider nut must own. 

The preview trailer will get you very aroused in a "I love gliders" sort of way.

Nice high rez mpeg4 version:
http://homepage.mac.com/pnaton/iMovieTheater35.html

Not as nice but faster YouTube version.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ibycoAqwSEg

Content Info and the cool DVD cover art:
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[RCSE] 2.4G lag time reality.

[Paul Breed]

One area that makes this fuzzy is the 2.4Ghz add on module.
If the module plugs into the back of what was once a 72Mhz system it 
will not gain you any

lag time advantage. It may actually increase the lag time.

As the 2.4Ghz module is reading the pulse stream from the 72Mhz tx 
and then sending the commands.


If the TX is natively transmitting 2.4G and does not have a module 
then one could
expect the lag time to be better. But if you are using a 2.4G module 
in a 72Mhz Tx then no dice.
there is no way for the 2.4G module to know what is happening any 
faster than the
PPM pulses that go to the module. This is the same PPM stream that 
the RX used to get minus the
RF path. and the RF path is instantaneous in comparison to the 20msec 
pulse rep frequency.






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[RCSE] SWC Scores

[Paul Emerson]

Finally got the scores up on the website. Thanks to all and see you next
year!

http://casl.net

PS - on the Open scores it has Cody ahead of Mike for 3rd place, that is
just an alphabetical mistake. Mike took 3rd and Cody 4th after the flyoff,
which was pretty cool if you missed it. Hi-starts, 5 minute tasks, landing
tape... Mike landed a 5:03 with a 96 landing and Cody a 5:00 with a 92
landing if I remember correctly.



-- 
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[RCSE] YouTube Soaring Video Collection

[Paul Naton]

A useful contribution..

I have a large collection of videos on YouTube that I think you all would like 
to see.

I have some trailers posted as well as snippets from the how-to series and 
various gliding shorts, even some
hot electric 3-D flying.

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The trailers have been updated with much higher rez versions that play nice.

Waste some time, check em out and subscribe, I put new videos up every week or 
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[RCSE] Uploading swc 08 pics from my phone

[Paul Emerson]

if time allows. To:
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First thoughts of the morning- cold mud/hot coffee.

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[RCSE] Free DVdeeeeees this week.

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This week only when you order a minimum of 2 DVDs, you will get
1 FREE DVD of your choice.

Order any discounted 3 pack, get a fourth FREE.
Order any discounted 5 pack, and get a sixth FREE.

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[RCSE] winch line

[Paul Perret]

Wouid 120 ib test dacron work well for winch line?
What was the heavy line used at Mid South last year,
and where can I get some?
What is a normal amount of line to have on a winch?
Thanks for the help
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[RCSE] fun at the cane field

[Paul Perret]

I went out to the sugar cane field yesterday for my
first flights on my new 9303 2.4 JR in my Sharon. It
was fantastic conditions with little wind, puffy
clouds, and 70 degrees. Since I usually fly alone, I
had my wife help do a range test before I left home.
So, at the field, I put it together, wiggled the
sticks and launched. This system works great. I did
get, and use, a little capacitor type thing that Todds
Models has on his web site. If these 2.4 systems get a
spike in current use, the receiver can shut down and
take a few seconds to reconnect. This capacitor thingy
solves that problem - so far so good. Big thermals
were abundant. I was even thermaling inverted and fun
stuff like that. I got the switches set up where I
like them and I really like this new radio.
On my last launch I broke the line which balled up and
broke the brake lever on the winch. Oh well, I guess
I'll have to go to a heaver line.
As I tried to leave I got stuck in the mud. The more I
worked at trying to get unstuck the deeper I got. Well
I called AAA who said they would send someone but that
it would cost me because they don't pay if you get
stuck intentionally!!???
I was sitting there waiting as the sun got low and the
mosquitoes started to swarm when all of a sudden there
were thousands of little black birds going after those
bugs. This spurred me to get out my hand launch and
join them. As I flew around, the birds congregated in
a huge swirl above my plane. I flew over that giant,
red setting sun with all those swirling birds over my
plane, and it made a magnificent, memorable picture!
The tow truck did finally get there and get me out,
but not before he got stuck himself! He called me
three hours later at home to tell me he had just
gotten out after being rescued by a bigger tow truck.
Even though I got stuck, it was a great day flying a
the field.
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[RCSE] trees

[paul bell]

at a casa contest long ago, len hauff (john's father) put his plane in a 
very tall tree.  we discussed trying to get the fire department to come, 
but no luck.  since it was sunday lenny went to mass as he did every sunday.  
when he got back we went to look at the plane in tree, but it had blown down.  
lenny turned to us and said, "see, you guys didn't think it works."

[RCSE] instaling 9303 2.4 in Sharon Pro

[Paul Perret]

I am installing  a 9303 2.4 into a Sharon Pro today. I
would like some advice on the ins and outs of this
installation from anyone who has done this. 
Thank You,
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[RCSE] T-Shirt Design Sneak Peak - US F3J Team

[Paul Naton]

T-Shirt Design Sneak Peak - US F3J Team 2008

I have posted my new design for the team T-Shirts on my Glide Fast Journal Blog
at: http://glidefast.typepad.com/glidefast/

You can see the new logo and how its' going to look on the shirts.

Please buy team gear which will be on sale in a few weeks. Shirts should be 
available at the Pasadena AMA show.

The team needs serious funds this year. Support your guys!

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[RCSE] RCA's New Toll-Free Number

[Paul Naton]

The DVD sale post had our old phone number (darn those old sig files)
and I wanted to give you all our NEW Toll-Free number.

888-834-2261Goes right to me or my cell, no charge to you.

Order line hours are 9am-6pm   EST during the holidays.

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[RCSE] DVDs For Sale

[Paul Naton]

Santa Sale

Yes, a FREE DVD is yours if you order 2 or more movies, 
offer good ONLY until Dec 25th. 

Any 3 for $64.95, get a fourth FREE! 
Any 5 for $99.95, get a sixth FREE! 

Jump on this boys! 

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[RCSE] Benchmark Models

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On this topic, The HLG Monarch has to be included!

ABSOLUTELY!!  --Sky Pilot



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[RCSE] Today's Soaring Reading Material

[Paul Naton]

I have put a lot of new soaring realated stuff on my Glide Fast Journal Blog:

New US F3B Team Shirt designes leaked.

Watch New soaring video clips

Radical new developments in wing design

Mountain Wave Project Links

Surf on by for a read . . . . .

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[RCSE] Finished! SWC 2007 entry forms

[Paul Emerson]

Sorry this took so long . . .Printable form (includes RES woody class info):http://www.casl.net/swc/SWC_2007_FLYER_ENTRY_FORM.pdf
Online form:http://www.casl.net/swc.html (click the REGISTER ONLINE NOW link)
Mail-in forms go to:        Pablo A. Romero    1924 N 118th DrAvondale, AZ 85323More questions? Contact Chico:Phone: 623-374-7469 After 3pm until 9pm
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]Details:First stop of the 2007 Western States Triad SeriesHosted by the CENTRAL ARIZONA SOARING LEAGUE
CONTEST SITE: Schnepf Farms in Queen Creek, AZ (45 min SE of Phoenix)DATE: February 10-11, 2007 CONTEST DIRECTOR: Darwin Barrie  CONTEST FORMAT: Precision Duration (contest format will be announced at pilot meeting). 
ENTRY FEE: $35 (non-refundable) Entries limited to First 200 Applications Received. (Max. four pilots per frequency) Register for a second or third class for $20 ea.APPLICATION START SIGNUP: OCT 20, 2006 APPLICATION DEADLINE: JAN 19, 2007
AWARDS: Open 1st-10th, 2M 1st-3rd, RES 1st-3rd, Res Woody 1st, Previously Declared AMA Club Teams 1st.  Gray Cup (62+years) and Youth Award (AMA Youth members only - under 19 as of contest date.)CLASSES: 2M, RES, RES Woody, Unlimited (OPEN)
PILOT MEETING: 7:30 AM each morningBBQ: Saturday Night (Breakfast and lunch will also be available Saturday and Sunday) SHIRTS: Tshirts and Golf Shirts in adult sizes only L, XL, 2XL, 3XL, 4XL (Limited Shirt Selection at Contest!) 
RAFFLE: Sunday - half before the awards presentation and half after. Event Coordinator: Pablo "Chico" RomeroSpecial Event Saturday: All up Last down DLG, Slow Stick combat Tent/RV Camping: Contact Schnepf Farms directly at 480-987-333 to arrange a spot at the contest site. 
Facilities: Very clean modern flush toilets and showers with handicap access. General public invited no parking or admission fee for spectators.Hotels and Rest: Visit our web site for more info 
www.casl.netRV RENTAL: Contact Don Shafer at Arizona Travel Center, 602-244-2300 or at www.arizonarvrentalsonline.com Thanks for your patience and see you in February, 
Paulwww.casl.net

Re: [RCSE] lithium AA bateries

[Paul Emerson]

"Lithium" in this case is equivalent to the "Platnum" in a Visa card - marketing only; no actual lithii were harmed in the making of this battery.On 10/30/06, 
Robert Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
They are not rechargable.  They are E2 Energizer Lithium.  They are notidentified in any other way.  No adjectives, adverbs or modifiers.  Simply"Lithium".Robert Samuels ... St. Louis
>From: Vince Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: soaring@airage.com>Subject: Re: [RCSE] lithium AA bateries
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:16:53 -0800 (PST)>>I suspect that these might be the NON-rechargeable>Lithium Alkaline batteries.>Does the packaging mention recharging anywhere?>Vince
>>--- Robert Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> > I just bought some lithium AA bateries for use in my> > digital camera.  They
> > are 1.5 volt cells.  I don't understand how they can> > be 1.5 volts when> > lithiums are 3 volts.  Can anyone explain it to me?> >> > Robert Samuels ... St. Louis
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[RCSE] SWC 2007

[Paul Emerson]

I forgot to mention that a printable, mail-in form will also be available at www.casl.net as soon as the BBQ and T-Shirt prices are in. Sorry again for the delay.
On 10/26/06, Paul Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Clarence,I can answer some of these questions.I just got off the phone with Chico and we are still trying to get the best price for BBQ and T-shirts for the SWC 07 contest. I am sorry for all the confusion but I was told to open the online registration for all at a certain date with or without the BBQ prices. Those who have registered already can re-register online and pay for just BBQ/T-Shirts if needed. I recommend just waiting until we have the prices before you register, which should be by Monday. 
The interest in the last few days tells me that the SWC 07 is gong to be a biggie!Again very sorry for all the confusion I am just doing my best as a volunteer webmaster.PS the Woody/RES details are being worked on but I hear Woody 
will be an option this year. Paulwww.casl.net
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Can you shed any light on the SWC event, BBQ, T-Shirts, also will theRES Woody classification will be be the same as the CVRC Fall Fest.ClarenceRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.  Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to 
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Re: [RCSE] Paging Darwin Barrie

[Paul Emerson]

Clarence,I can answer some of these questions.I just got off the phone with Chico and we are still trying to get the best price for BBQ and T-shirts for the SWC 07 contest. I am sorry for all the confusion but I was told to open the online registration for all at a certain date with or without the BBQ prices. Those who have registered already can re-register online and pay for just BBQ/T-Shirts if needed. I recommend just waiting until we have the prices before you register, which should be by Monday. 
The interest in the last few days tells me that the SWC 07 is gong to be a biggie!Again very sorry for all the confusion I am just doing my best as a volunteer webmaster.PS the Woody/RES details are being worked on but I hear Woody 
will be an option this year. Paulwww.casl.netOn 10/26/06, clarence
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Re: [RCSE] Full Range Spread Spektrum, the DX7

[Paul Emerson]

This would be a good RES or slope option though. Imagine a slope race or combat with more than 50 planes in the air!On 10/19/06, Brian Chan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:At 10:46 AM -0700 10/19/06, tony estep wrote:
>Jim, I'm reading the Spektrum manual and I don't see any wing type>for 4-servo wings with separate flaps and ailerons. I'm probably>missing some obvious work-around, but on first glance it doesn't>look as if they gave the sailplane boys much of a thought when they
>designed the programming.  It is only  a lowly 7 ch tx, it would not do a whole heck of a lotover the DX-6. I like my DX-6 for the park flyers and aerialphotographing. I can fly (safer) in any location, without worry
getting hit.I was surprised to see they come out with only 7 channels. A beginnerwould buy one but any hard core modeler will think that is a waste ofmoney to get only 7 ch. I would buy it if it has 9 or 10 ch. I am
running out of channels even with the Fut 9C.Anyway, if 50 % of the people jump on that, the 72MHz will be muchmore open, thus less interferences.Brian--Brian Chan,An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San 
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Re: [RCSE] Stopwatch Listings

[Paul Emerson]

That is where I got my Robic SC-707 - $34.95 to my door with the free shipping.
Even the Robic SC-500e looks nice at $15.95 (start stop reset only).

I like the SC-707 a lot, good for all types of flying, heat resistant
- cheapo stopwatches don't last in AZ.

http://www.stopwatchcentral.com/robic/robicA.htm#Robic%20SC-707

On 10/18/06, David Register <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just FYI, best comparative listing of stopwatches I've found is:
http://www.stopwatchcentral.com/index.html

The ones often used for soaring are all there (Seiko S321, Robic SC707,
Accusplit A625) along with many others - including Brian's printer
supplied Seiko. Nice place to compare features. For lap/split models,
info is not provided for freeze times but Seiko is typically 20s, Robic
~15s and Sportline ~5s.

- Dave R
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Re: [RCSE] Visalia

[Paul Emerson]

Lots of good pics here:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=577416On 10/9/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I will be posting scores tonight and I believe Ed Hipp has some pictures to post as well. We just have to recover a bit from the task.Phil Hill
 -- Original message --From: Lee Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Does anyone have anything to say about Visalia??
>>   Scores, Pictures, Etc??>>> LeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A.>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! SmallBusiness.-- Forwarded message --From: Lee Cox <
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[RCSE] Saving "60 Acres" for the RC Soaring Community

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

al two-day contest I attended
alone, a number of RC pilots flew in from around the United States
and we were staying in local accommodations and spending monies
over a three-day period. 
Many, and a number of luminaries in our RC soaring community, consider
"60 Acres" their home field, but more, we around the country
and abroad desire that this recreational area remain such in its
present state and available to us all, preserved as such
for the future--will I have the privilege of RCHLG-DHL at "60
Acres" this Summer [again sometime in the
future]!?    

Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan    (AMA # 53 777
1)

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SKY PILOT'S HANGAR--RCHLG-DHL AFICIONADO

[RCSE] Visalia

[Paul Emerson]

Well, I'm not there but through the magic of the internet I can tell you this: Weather was very nice to perfect today, and judging by the 2nd round scores, JW is on top.
http://www.cvrcsoaring.com/2006_scores.htm(link only shows the 2nd round scores of all classes and I am not sure it is not an old page with the wrong title)

[RCSE] HLG Electrocution Incident- Gross Content

[Paul Naton]

See what happens when you put 100 amps through a nice composite HLG
wing.   WARNING:  Gory photos of third degree full thickness burns.

Photos here:  Title: HLG Incineration
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[RCSE] New F3 Builing Clinic DVD

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For the first time,  a visual guide for building and prepping 
moulded and composite planes for flight is available. 

The F3 Building Clinic DVD. 

In 2 fun-filled hours you watch a F3 style mouldy getting put together 
from start to finish, to first flight.   

Learn how to do everything professionally from proper pushrod building to 
making your 
own trick wiring harness. And about a hundred other tips, hints, and 
techniques. 

Maybe not for "SUPER PROS" but everyone else will learn a ton of info.

There's a 2 minute trailer/preview you can check out on the RCA site 

Thanks to JR and SoaringUSA for their support in creating this very 
important how-to DVD instructional project. 

Taking orders and shipping NOW. 

Thanks for your time.

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Re: [RCSE] thats my girl

[Paul Emerson]

Awesome. That even beats this note I found on the workbench one day after work:http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/239520163/For those too lazy to click it says "Love you! Beer in fridge!"
I wasn't even valentines day.On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
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got a email (below) from my significant other today from her work.
god bless her!
or maybe god blessed me.  :-)
i guess i'll go shoot some landings to keep her happy.  :-)
dh
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:21 PM
Subject: tonite
wanna get out for a walk this evening ? 
   or go to the airport and shoot few landings or something 
?   Donna 
UnruhAccounts PayableProblem Resolution PRMS 
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Re: [RCSE] LSF Discussion

[Paul Emerson]

"replacing competition requirement with non-competition tasks that provide a
comparable level of challenge and skill development"

To re-create a "comparable level" to a competition there would have to
be a task that required you to launch on a specific day, at a specific
time, regardless of conditions, with an unexpected field repair, and a
gaggle of bozos to sucker you into some bad air, and a timer who may
or may not read the air correctly and give you bad advice, who will
talk too much and countdown all wrong, and stop the timer a full
second late, and at least a dozen peers to watch you launch and land,
wishing the best for you, but most hoping to beat you, and some
playing mind games and/or talking trash to you, and then there is the
added lust for an "I beat Gordy" pin, not to mention wanting to score
higher than all of your other club buddies, all this after having
spent the night in the back of your truck after driving 600 miles and
slowstick nightflying until 3 AM and you are getting a weird rash from
being out in the heat for three days . . .

;-)

Paul
LSF I

On 9/7/06, Pat McCleave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Steve,

If we had that kind of achievement program we would have to have Level X for 
Gordy.

See Ya,

Pat


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>
> It just occurred to me that a good explanation of why some want a
> "New" achievement program may be the same reason that involvement by
> new blood is diminishing.  Nobody has any time to enjoy
> themselves.  The 40 hour work week is gone and if you get more than 2
> weeks vacation consider yourself lucky.
>
> Perhaps an achievement program that rewards point for posting to RCSE.  :-)
>
> Oh yea, I'm at work.  This message paid for by my employer. :-)
>
> Steve
> Soaring Exchange Level V
> LSF Level IV
>
>
>
>
> At 10:35 AM 9/7/2006, James V. Bacus wrote:
> >Steve makes some really good points here.
> >
> >We were already traveling on weekends 100's of miles just to go fly
> >with others, the LSF tasks didn't start us off on that.
> >
> >We didn't get our contest task points at home because we have a big
> >club, we had to go on the road for those points because the pilots
> >within our club are so strong and there are a layer of guys on top
> >that are very difficult to beat.
> >
> >All hobbies can be expensive, but perhaps the largest expense in
> >this day and age is the time to spend with them.
> >
> >Well written Steve.
> >
> >
> >
> >At 09:12 AM 9/7/2006, S Meyer wrote:
> >>I started traveling to Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky to attend
> >>contests.  First it was because that was where the HL contests were
> >>at.  Now mainly TD contests.  It was not just for the LSF points, I
> >>met some great guys along the way, learned a lot from all the
> >>different people, and had a lot of fun as well.  I could move
> >>closer to theses areas but I choose to live where I am.
> >>
> >>The current LSF system is designed for the pilot who wants interact
> >>with other pilots, teach and learn at the same time.
> >>
> >>As far as getting a Level V win from a SOAR club contest.  Fat
> >>chance, I have resided that I will have to attend smaller contests
> >>in far places.  Away from guys like, Rich Burnoski, Karl Miller,
> >>Jim McCarthy, Tom Kallevang, Jim Bacus, and more.   And now the
> >>upcoming novice of the group Pat Crosby, watch out he's a good stick.
> >>
> >>So be careful what you wish for.
> >>
> >>To attain Level 5 requires dedication, commitment, and yes,
> >>money.  There is no hobby out there if you want to be good you have
> >>to spend money.  From Gardening to Cycling, they all have an
> >>expensive side to them.  And they all take what few of us have... time.
> >>
> >>
> >>Steve Meyer
> >>LSF IV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 08:02 AM 9/7/2006, Pat McCleave wrote:
> >>>Steven,
> >>>
> >>>Once again you are missing the point, it is not so much about
> >>>changing the current system as it is about adding a separate
> >>>system to the fold for those pilots who do not choose or do not
> >>>have the means to travel to the big contests in order to complete
> >>>the list of tasks.  Funny thing is, almost all of those that are
> >>>so apposed to any change just happen to be fortunate enough to be
> >>>involved with clubs that have regular monthly contests 20 or more
> >>>pilots.  Maybe if the shoe were on the other foot and yo

Re: [RCSE] Nebulus Flying Videos

[Paul Emerson]

The links I think . . .

On 9/6/06, Marc Gellart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Just to lighten the mood a bit, was at www.youtube.com last evening looking at 
a video of a 3D ship flying and kind of started watching some other flying 
stuff.  Wow, there is some cool stuff there.  Three personal favorites:

Goodbye Hero-F-14 driver I think that is expousing his displeasure at the 
demise of the F-14 for of all things a tanker (FA-18E and so on), great take 
off at Key West.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Nyp9IExm0




I Won't Flinch-take one British kid in the sand, and a buddy with a camera and 
add an AV-8B really low...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbqQr2EEtHA



What I Will Be in 4 years-Another Brit that is about to start flight school 
found some really neat French film, flying a Mirage and two Jaguars, at 
ridiculously low altittude near the beach and shipping, great music too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qlFBepviys



Sorry that I did not get the URL's but long and I figured you could go there 
and do a quick search.

Marc
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Re: [RCSE] Re: LSF Discussion

[Paul Jacobson]

On 07/09/2006, at 7:14 AM, Ben Wilson wrote:

In this particular instance, no one is attempting to change the  
"yardstick" that is the LSF achievement program.  They are simply  
suggesting one that isn't so dependent upon contesting and the  
employ of other LSF members - specifically to bring more people  
into the soaring fold.




Ben is quite correct.   The "Sportsman" program under discussion  
would be parallel to the existing LSF program not a replacement, and  
the LSF administration have made it clear that their support would be  
dependant on the program not diminishing the existing SAP or the LSF.  
Much of the discussion has been about finding ways of replacing the  
competition requirement with non-competition tasks that provide a  
comparable level of challenge and skill development. Tom Kallevang  
has suggested that the program should also be attractive to current  
LSF members.  In short this would not be a soft option for those who  
want the kudos without effort.



cheers
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[RCSE] For sale 2 Rx, 3 x-tals (Futaba)

[Paul Emerson]

I have two Futaba FP-R127DF receivers, one is new this year, one is
older, and also one extra crystal. (channels 23, 16 and 36,
respectively).

$70 shipped con-US.

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[RCSE] RE: Great Ideas

[Paul Emerson]

Not sure if this qualifies as "Great" but . . .

Mounting pushrod housings inside a tailboom or fuselage:

With a music wire pushrod, hold the housing in place using neodymium
magnets on the outside of the boom. Then hold the boom upright and
dribble thin CA down the housing (being careful not to get it inside
the housing of course), mist some kicker in there and you are done.
You can then remove the piano wire and put a CF rod in the housing if
you like. Works good on all fuses/booms. Some like to add small wraps
of thread or tape along the housing to give the CA more to bite into.
I find on good etched teflon housing this is not necessary, and it
impedes the flow of CA down the boom.

Picture here:
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Good magnet source (I bought the sample pack):
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/

Paul
www.casl.net

On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice; how about the rest of us submitting their idea-jewels for something to
do. Could make for some interesting reading for a change.

Here's a couple:

On F3x fuses with opaque (typically carbon) canopies, I machine a slot which is
long enough to view one of those nifty battery LED's. The slot is offset to one
side such that just prior to launch I can glance at it and not only know PWR is
present, but where it's at.

I then Goop the LED display to the inside of the canopy. A side benefit is that
technically, even if the canopy departs the aircraft on launch/landing it
remains tethered, thus allowing you to score on that round.

The lead material supplied on most imported F3x aircraft, it seems the
prerequisite is to find the absolute cheapest material produced by mankind. The
awg is poor, and the insulation will depart on a hot day. One might consider
replacing it.

The piddly switches supplied with our systems are average at best, especially
for competition use. They have been known to fail. Simply replace the entire
switch assembly with a 2-pin high quality bullet-type connector used to supply
PWR to small electrics, and your servos will see higher voltage. Add to this
that typical bullet-type connectorship has cycle rates in the 100's, which
rivals the original slider switch.

Quoting Harley Michaelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> That's clever, Tom. Thanks for passing it on. I lament the absence of neat,
> creative ideas that used to be presented by many.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thomas Koszuta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Harley Michaelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Another tip about securing a tube in an inaccessible
> area
>
>
> > I've done the same thing with heavy thread.
> >
> > Drill a hole of the fuse in both sides, where you want to attach the tube.
>
> > Using a long upholstery needle, go into one side and out the other,
> > reverse the needle and loop the thread around the tube as you pass the
> > needle back out.
> >
> > If you are sewing in a tube on both sides, you obviously need to loop both
>
> > of them before sealing the holes.
> >
> > Pull the tubing up tight to the fuse side and fill the hole with baking
> > soda.  Hit it with thin CA, then sand flush.
> >
> > (I didn't see/read the whole thread, so if someone already suggested this,
>
> > apologies.)
> >
> > Tom Koszuta
> > Western New York Sailplane and Electric Flyers
> > Buffalo, NY
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Harley Michaelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:30 PM
> > Subject: [RCSE] Another tip about securing a tube in an inaccessible area
> >
> >
> >> This applies to a translucent fuselage, such as unpainted glass. If the
> >> tube to be installed is one nothing wants to stick to, decide on the
> >> spots where you want it attached and shrink a  sleeve of HS tubing at
> >> those spots on the tube.
> >>
> >> Position the tube. Just above it, drill small holes in the fuselage, such
>
> >> as 1/8", at the location of the HS pieces. Bend a common pin so it can be
>
> >> inserted into the hole to pull the tubing against the inside of the
> >> fuselage. Remove the needle from a small syringe. Put some quickepoxy in
> >> it. Let gravity help get it where wanted. Put a tiny spring clamp on the
> >> pin. Snip when the epoxy has cured.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Harley Michaelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[RCSE] New Soaring Wall Paper Downloads

[Paul Naton]

I have just posted perhaps the finest collection of soaring wallpapers,
available for your computer free.

To download any or all of the 25 high rez images, go to my blog, the Glide Fast 
Journal.

http://glidefast.typepad.com/

The first article has the links and info.

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[RCSE] Team wins because of great shirts, not planes

[Paul Naton]

The US F3 teams win because they are wearing Paul Naton designed
shirts and jackets.  Its not the planes, but the threads man!

The F3J and B teams always do great when I do the logos :--)

Congrats to the Juniors and Seniors who did great in a what turned out to be a 
really tough contest.  

(thanks for the team jacket Skip & Jim)






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Re: [RCSE] F3J Championships

[Paul Jacobson]

David Hobby was flying Pike Perfect's, not Supra's.

http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/?item=20&pol=c18



On 08/08/2006, at 1:36 PM, George Gillburg wrote:

Has anyone seen a list of who flew what at the recent  
championships?  I recall Joe flew an Icon for part of the contest  
and the winner was flying a Supra for most of the contest if not  
all but who else flew what?  How did the Pike Perfects do versus  
the Shadows and Visions etc.



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Re: [RCSE] 2M Rambles

[Paul Emerson]

I noticed a 2M with "Drela Derivative" airfoils at Sal's site:
http://nesail.com/detail.php?productID=5125
Has anyone seen it in person yet? Looks promising.



On 8/1/06, Daryl Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dave,

What a great post. Thank you. You're right on about
the MH32 being a poor choice for a 2M section. I don't
like it for open class TD either. Drela has done a
good deal of optimization on sections for us, and he's
got a pretty good idea of what works in the real
world. Definitely a good idea to try some of his
thinner sections on a 2M. The key here would be
LIGHT!!!

I don't particularly like super low A/R 2M's... ala
the Duck. Span loading ends up too high, wing loading
too low... not a good combo. At least not my personal
preference… you get a model that doesn't go
anywhere... AND comes down quickly... woohoo!!!

Your also correct about AUW. My old Lasers used to
weigh in around 31 ounces, and they flew quite well
(for a 2M). People seem to have gotten complacent
about 40 and 45 ounce 2M's. Of course they fly fine...
they're just pre-ballasted. Especially when you're
only flying against other 40 and 45 ounce models. But
remember, a 2M isn't much larger than a HL model.
They're what? 25% larger? Who wants to thermal a 30
ounce HL? Or even a 20 ounce HL for that matter?
That's tremendously over simplified, there are many
other factors here, but you get my point. We can't
build our 2M's light enough.

Mike L's 2M Aegea weighed in at I think about 25
ounces (before the boom broke), and it was probably
the best flying 2M I've ever seen. In the early
morning light lift rounds, his was the only model that
even recognized lift, as the rest of the field flew
right through it and underneath him without even a
bobble.

V-Tails - still... no. The main problem with a V-Tail
is that we all fly differing stability ranges. What I
mean here, is that while I may prefer a less stable
model, you may prefer a more stable model, and a
beginner prefers a ludicrously stable model. Why am I
talking about stability and not CG??? .. same thing
for this discussion. You can't just oversize the V to
be correct in yaw, and expect the model to fly right.
It'll be too stable for me, and maybe for you... but
perfect for the beginner. When I flew Super V's, I
couldn't get the model "loose" enough. I'd cheat the
CG way back, until I was happy with the performance
and flight characteristics in pitch, and the model
would tuck hard in slow cruise (harder as the speed
increases). Not great for a TD model. S... that's
an indication that the model is overstabbed or too
stable. So, I had to cut the V's down... then all my
yaw stability went away. V-tails are a compromise at
best. You can play games with the V angle to get it
closer, but I've never got one right. They're fine for
a one dimensional model - ala a slope racer, cuz
you're never hanging the model on the wing. You don't
see Drela's design's being V-Tails, do ya? ;-)

The design challenges for a 2M are rather complex, and
this makes it sorta fun. There are many compromises to
be made. A/R vs. Area. Cruise vs. Hang. Cross tail...
or... uh cross tail. (I'm not even gonna mention a
damn V)

I'm going to do a new 2M in the next few months. I'm
not just going to focus on the wing, but on the fuse
as well. We're seeing gains in F3B with small cross
section fuses. I think I can shave some weight, and
some drag here as well.

I've broken up with multiple women in the last few
months... need to do enough models to keep up with the
naming process... ;-)

Possibly "Lil Beeotch" - we'll see

D



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Re: [RCSE] "Didn't we send a team of guys somewhere this week?"

[Paul Jacobson]

Gordy,

You're jumping the gun a bit giving final results ;)

There is still round 6 plus 2 rounds of finals before the Martin Cup  
is done.


30.07.2006 – Sunday „MARTIN CUP“
07.00 – 07.30 taking transmitters to the tent
08.00 – 11.30 competition flights – qualifying rounds
12.00 – 13.00 final flights of „MARTIN CUP“ (2 final rounds)

cheers
Paul


On 30/07/2006, at 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything.  Must not be much to   
report.


The official site has scores for the Martin Cup posted (pre event)  
and it

looks like Arendt Borst bested JW by a point or two.

Tom K was in the top 5, Phil Barnes did a really good job and Joe   
Newcomb is

up in there too.
_http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/dnld.php?fname=./download/ 
martincup_prelimina

ry_rounds.pdf_
(http://www.rcmklub.sk/wcf3j2006/dnld.php?fname=./download/ 
martincup_preliminary_rounds.pdf)


I know its not the Nationals or MidSouth Soaring Champs but pretty
interesting in any case:-)

Gordy


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Re: [RCSE] After the 2006 NATS - 2 Meter Comments

[Paul Jacobson]

Was anyone flying the Mark Drela designed Aegea 2M at the NATS?

The design for the Aegea 2M was posted to the Allegro-Lite group in  
August 2002, so it seems to be contemporaneous with the Mantis 2M &  
the Organic 2M.



On 29/07/2006, at 11:00 AM, tony estep wrote:


From: Jim Deck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...the dominant design utilized by the top ten
finishers was the venerable "Duck"...



A very fine post in its entirety, Jim. 2-Meters is a world unto  
itself, and when good flyers go at it, it's a very worthwhile  
event. You have to launch to the moon, then find lift quick,  
because the little planes come down in a hurry and don't travel  
well if you hit sink.


The dominance of the Duck design seems to me to have some  
interesting implications. U.S. flyers generally have disdained V- 
tail airplanes, but the Duck shows that they can learn to love 'em  
if the tail is big enough. Additionally, the Duck has a fairly low  
AR wing and is pretty heavy; these characteristics don't match the  
current fashion, but in this class they seem to prove out to be  
best in practice.


It would be neat to see a resurgence of interest in 2M, just to see  
what other design tweaks might come along. It seems that there  
hasn't been much design activity in this class since the Organic  
and 2M Mantis. Maybe there's a world-beater out there to be  
discovered.






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[RCSE] Deadly Thermals-They Can Kill

[Paul Naton]

Read about a freak fatal accident caused by a rouge thermal in England.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

Go To:

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[RCSE] Re: Hitec Fusion 9 Channel IPD RX's...tested and flown.

[Paul Jacobson]

FWIW

I've tested bridging neg to sig on my RS70 (35/36/40mhz version of  
the 720) to replicate the required button press and it doesn't appear  
to have any effect. Definitely doesn't change RX/LED status.


cheers
Paul

On 19/07/2006, at 9:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try it.

Neg to signal is a safe jumper, they are both common so no harm   
possible.


I have been on the road so no time.

Gordy
Buffalo NY today


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Re: [RCSE] Hitec Fusion 9 Channel IPD RX's...tested and flown.

[Paul Jacobson]

Does anyone know if this works with the new JR synth RX's?

cheers
Paul


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In a message dated 7/18/2006 8:30:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I don't  know the pinout, but there's only two possible options,


Actually there are three, but one of those (+ to -) would be  
REEEAL  STOOPID!
 Which leaves (+ to sig), (doesn't make much sense) & (sig to  -)  
(BINGO!)

Good Lift!


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Re: [RCSE] In need of an AVA Nose Cone, please let me know if you have one for sale!!

[Paul Jacobson]

Have you tried Kennedy Composites? they list the nosecone as a spare  
part.


http://www.kennedycomposites.com/ava-parts.html

pj

On 15/07/2006, at 8:16 AM, Michael Morjoseph wrote:


Please send all Responses for any Ava Nose Cone Available
to this Address  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks..
Team Magnum

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:36 AM
Subject: [RCSE] In need of an AVA Nose Cone, please let me know if  
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one for sale!!



Hello everyone,

I'm looking for an AVA Nose, please let me know if you have
a spare you'd like to sale.

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[RCSE] Massive Dust Devil/Thermal Photos

[Paul Naton]

I put some cool photos I took last spring of really massive
mulitple Dust Devils on my Glide Fast Journal Blog

Taken from a hill top in the Willamette Valley during a feaky
super convective day.

Worth a look for sure!   http://glidefast.typepad.com/


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[RCSE] New Soaring Blog Takes Flight

[Paul Naton]

I have just launched a new soaring oriented blog,
The Glide Fast Journal

Click over and have a read!

http://glidefast.typepad.com/

The journal will cover the latest Radio Carbon Art DVD news
and will cover entertaining soaring content with photos and video links.

I will stuff the journal with lots of interesting stuff and user comments are 
welcome.

Recent enteries include a sneak peak at our next DVD release and some nice 
photos.

Thanks!


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[RCSE] Performance Tuning DVD Review

[Paul Naton]

Need reading material?

The Liftzone just published a review of my new Performance Tuning DVD.
George Voss did the authoring.  There are some links for some extra preview 
video
clips that are included with the write-up.

Check it out: http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=5010

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Re: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries, and speeding things up a bit

[Paul Jacobson]

Danny,

I'm pretty sure it's actually every six months... the same stuff gets  
worked over prior to the NAT's and when the NAT's event schedule is  
announced. I've been subscribed to the exchange about 18 months and  
this is the 3rd time these "old chestnuts" have been dragged out for  
discussion...


Paul

On 04/05/2006, at 3:03 PM, Danny C Williams wrote:


The threads that start about all the same stuff each year have started
once agian also.


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[RCSE] US F3F info

[Paul Naton]

For some Viking Race qualifier race info, go to:
www.gliderking.com

Bob put up some pictures and info.

Looks like the top three were:

D. Zaballos, Dave Reese, Kyle Paulson

I think more than 3 can go to the VR.



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[RCSE] Soaring DVD Clearance Sale

[Paul Naton]

I have the following DVDs and DVD sets on clearance this week. These items are 
from exchanges, returns, and various demos & I’ll also give special deals on a 
few 10 DVD sets of your choice too. All items are in factory NEW condition and 
come with a 30 day guarantee. 

A great chance to own these great DVDs at a substantial discount.

Please e-mail me if you want to buy any of these items and I will give you 
special instructions on how to order the sales items.  Refer to the item # you 
are interested in.  

Party pays usual shipping fees, we ship world wide.
Basic info at: http://www.radiocarbonart.com 

First come, first serve. Come and get em!

Item #1: HLG training pack - HLG Pro & Building Clinics & Secrets of Thermals
Regular Price: $64.95 Sale price: now $50.00. I have 2 of these packs available.

Item#2: HLG Pro Clinic & HLG Building Clinic 2 Pack
Regular Price: $60.00 Sale Price: $45.00. I have 2 of these packs available.

Item#3: Performance Tuning & Secrets of Thermals
Regular Price: $50.00 Sale Price: $35.00. I have 2 of these packs available.

Item#4: Just Want To Fly 1 & 2 DVDs
Regular Price: $50.00 Sale Price: $35.00. I have only one of these packs 
available.

Item#5: Endless Lift 1, 2 & 3 DVDs
Regular Price: $64.95 Sale price: now $45.00 I have 2 of these packs available.

Item#6: Pick any 10 DVDs of YOUR choice
Regular Price: $199.00 Sale price: Now $150.00 I have only *2* of these special 
packs available. Shipping will be $6.00.

Item#7: Sloper's Delight pack: PSS Masters, Just Want To Fly 1&2, Soar Utah, 
Endless Lift 2 & 3. Regular Price: $120.00 Sale price: now $85.00 I have 2 of 
these packs available.

That’s it for now. Snooze, you loose.






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[RCSE] Midsouth motels

[Paul Perret]

What motels are available at special rates for Midsouth?

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[RCSE] RE: Who remembers "The Old Buzzard" video?

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

John Roe posted:  "Who remembers "The Old
Buzzard" video? --and Dave Thornburg? Still available? 
DVD?" ww.roenation.com  .
Welcome back Sensei!!  I hope you didn't crash land out :-) !! 
Is start up so bad after your illustrative years under Guru Joe :-) !!??
That you need to get back to such basics :-) !!??  CU at IHLGF :-)
!!  --Sky Pilot
P.S. And, "Oh!" Yes!  I have the video but then there is Radio
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[RCSE] Looking for Foam in So Cal...

[Paul Breed]

Does anyone know of a source for Dow Blue
Owens Corning Pik foam in southern California?


Paul


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Re: [RCSE] Water-ski Aerotow?

[Paul Emerson]

Meh. My Grandpa claimed that he and his friends once tried this stunt:
 
They would transfer a water skier being towed on a boat to a tow rope dangling from a small plane. This was attempted on the Bourbeuse river in Missouri which is one of that state's most twisted and meandering rivers - it winds for nearly 100 miles with an air distance of only 27 miles, all of it within Franklin County. They also built a ski jump that was only used once - it was too steep and the first attempt resulted in someone getting slammed into the ramp. They cut it free from it's anchors and let it drift over the dam at Noser Mill.
Paul 
"hey, that's not soaring related but interesting and I mentioned an aircraft"
 
 
 
On 3/29/06, S Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Very awesome.  Interesting to see the TRUE level flight perspective.  :-)Thank Rudy.At 07:27 AM 3/29/2006, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:>Here's an idea spawned by the water skiing Harvards; water-ski>aerotow!  Imagine skimming across the water then pulling up into>vertical opposing rolls!  Johnny Berlin, are you ready?
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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Paul Emerson]

Dear #1 through #99,

I was within 20 feet of the "crash" - remember I was out there hunting
for a dropped pocketknife. The plane tapping the wires and landing in
the tilled dust that is desert farm land was softer than any
competition landings I have seen.

I would recommend that the saddle area be beefed up before y'all go
flying again.

Paul
www.casl.net
PS Fusions Rule!


On 3/27/06, Jim Laurel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember
> that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix.  From what I heard, it went into
> some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft.  Apparently, the
> repair wasn't adequate.
>
> Just because the Supra wing mount didn't survive a crash, doesn't
> mean it is not correctly designed to withstand the normal stresses of
> hard launches and contest landings.
>
> My Supra will be here in a few days, and I will have no qualms about
> flying it hard!
>
> Cheers - Jim Laurel
> Seattle Area Soaring Society
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[RCSE] You CAN get an Aero-Perfect meter

[Paul Naton]

After prodding from many customers, Marl has decided to another production
run of AeroPerfect digital angle meters if he can get 40-50 firm orders.
This is a great tool for tuning your plane and has many uses.
Support this small manufacturer and get on the list today.  This is a high
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[RCSE] How-To Video Ideas

[Paul Naton]

Ya, how to's can be a bit dry, and glider how to's can be bone dry!
It's a hard subject to teach, technical, fussy, and some methods are slow to 
show.

I'll be the first to admit I'm not the most congenial mesmerizing talk show 
host, buy hey,
I know my stuff and can demonstrate this subject in a way most can understand.

I've filmed some of the most knowledgeable guys in the sport and not one
would be a great public speaker or bubbly host, but man, they will blow you 
away with
their experience and know-how.

Getting in front of the camera and being coherent is SO difficult. I respect 
those pro TV guys
way more now than I used to!

Ed's right, skip the banter and flash, and show me the goods.  A smooth flowing 
narrative and
covering the small details is vital.  Some of the how-to productions I've 
studied were 80% fluff and 20%
useful info.

If you have some ideas on how to improve glider how-to's, George and I would 
like to hear them

Got any idea's for future instructionals?  Would like to hear of those too.

I'm working on some cool new DVDs which will be out by May.

My new Performance Tuning instructional should keep you all happy until then.

http://radiocarbonart.com/Pages/perftunemain.html

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[RCSE] Sanyo 2700 NIMH Source?

[Paul Naton]

Any local vendors have any of the new Sanyo 2700 NIMH
cells for sale?

Need to make a custom 5 cell pack for the new 'machine' coming this week.

If you have a source, post it here or privately.

Gracias--

Paul


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[RCSE] WTB Airtronics PCM RX

[Paul Measel]

Wanted to buy:
Airtronics 92985/72 PCM Receiver
Thanks,
Paul Measel

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[RCSE] Sharon 3.7m V-Tail $800.00

[Paul Ferradas]

I have a Sharon V-Tail sale. I bought this Sharon off of the Soaring Junkie a little over a year ago and it's flown great for the last contest season. It had a fuse crack towards the tail and a crinkled wing tip (at the every tip) the very first time I flew it but it's been repaired and flying great ever since.     It has Volz servos all around and has the RADS system installed in the ailerons.     Pictures can be seen here:     http://www.ferradasphotography.com/Sharon     Asking $800.00 FIRM        www.ferradasphotography.com  www.modelmayhem.com # 24657  www.onemodelplace.com #116327
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[RCSE] FS: Sharon 3.7m TD $875.00

[Paul Ferradas]

I have a Yellow/Blue V-Tail Sharon 3.7m TD sailplane
for sale. It has Volz servos throughout, RADS system
installed on the ailerons. Hitec Super Slim 8
receiever, just pop in your crystal, program and go
fly! It's that simple. This Sharon was purchased from
Edgar "Soaring Junkie" a couple of years ago, I had a
line catch on my first flight with it and I cracked
the fuse and crinkled the very tip of the wings
crinkled a bit, it was fully repaired and flown all
season, I took 2nd in Sportsman at DVSS, 3rd Open at
Gamblers Gala, top 20 at Vislalia 2004, it's a great
flying ship and it's proven itself time after time.

Pictures can be seen here:

http://www.ferradasphotography.com/Sharon

Asking $875.00 FIRM

I can have this plane delivered to Davis or Fresno
Classic if your seriously interested in buying it.

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[RCSE] Re: Interest in Soaring [Was:] Model Aviation Control Line???

[Paul Emerson]

>>So the question is, what happened to the interest in RC Soaring. 

Bottom line: The interest in RC soaring has been replaced by the
instant gratification of the electric park flyer.

Things impeding the interest in Soaring:
1) Need a big field close to home (urban sprawl has eliminated safe
soaring here, I drive 80 miles to fly in peace)
2) Soaring learning curve is higher, takes longer (Electric foamie
learning curve: throttle up, crash; throttle up, crash; throttle up,
crash; throttle up, crash; throttle up, LOOK DUDE I can hover!)
3) Expense: If you develop a real interest in Soaring, the expenses
soon start to add up: Good plane, good TX, good servos = $1500 and up.
Plus you gotta launch it somehow.
4) Intimidation. New guy sees pilots that are soaring $2k worth of
carbon fiber, expresses an interest, and they point him to a 2M balsa
kit. "That's how we all started."

Those who truly love soaring will stick with it. The rest will be
shooting us down with their slo-sticks from their backyards.

And as for all the CL articles in the AMA mag: I have been an RC
observer/participant most of my life and I have never ever seen a CL
model in the air or on the ground. Imagine my surprise when cracking
open the mag and seeing 3 or 4 different varieties of the mysterious
CL.






On 3/2/06, Ray Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> A. Realty is in the numbers.
>
> B. Model Aviation WAS chuck full of sailplane contest reports, ADVERTISMENT
> from vendors and mfg, but that was yesterday
>
> C. So the question is, what happened to the interest in RC Soaring. 
>
> To me, this questions is what should be discussed and hopefully lead to:
>
> "what can we do to promote RC Soaring".
>
> Ray Hayes
> http://www.skybench.com
> Home of Wood Crafters
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Model Aviation Control Line???
>
>
> >
> >
> > Bill Swingle wrote:
> > > I am curious. Does control line truly have a big enough following to
> > > justify all the press it does get?
> > >
> > > I'm doubtful.
> >
> > Here's some numbers:
> >
> > 2005 NATS attendance:
> >
> > RC Total = 433
> >
> > Soaring = 151
> >
> > Control Line = 223
> >
> > Free Flight = 348
> >
> > Makes you wonder why the Free Flight guys are not screaming??
> >
> >
> >
> > > Personally I consider it so basic and elementary that it's boring. Why
> > > do people fiddle about with it? Of course I feel the same about glow
> > > power as well. :-)
> >
> > Everyone thinks that the other guy's hobby/interest is lame. You should
> > hear what my power friends say about gliders. What the heli guys say
> > about plankers, what the TD guys say about slopers, and on, and on, and
> > on, and on, and on, and on...
> >
> >
> > There was also no heli column or scale aerobatics column this issue. I
> > have not seen them yelling, yet!!!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [RCSE] "Orlando was warm and windy but no problem for a Giant like...'

[Paul Emerson]

"he flys a Genital 
Lady"Genital Lady?I think I saw that in Tijuana once . . .On 2/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




So you missed the "Last Chance to Beat Gordy on His Birthday" man on man 
contest today in Orlando ;-(  Slightly under 200 pilots attended.
 
Well we had a nice day of challenging air, I flew my Giant (third outing 
with it) and I think it showed its abilities to really range around and to work 
tough tight blowing bubbles. I am still learning a lot about it.
 
I couldn't seem to get my eye on the spot so hung in all day with 25's 
(landings were 25, 50,75 and 100 point measured spot) which sounds pretty 
bad but the radius of the spot to 25 was 10mm...so you really had to be on. 
:-)  The Pike Giant is really making life tough for me! I love the Superior 
wing but the speed of the Giant wing and its ability to shoot wayyy out is kind 
of sexy :-) I'm not using a skeg, just in case I decide to make my bide for the 
F3J worlds :)
 
Rick Kuburis with a home field advantage ended up victorious using a home 
brew secret weapon design, there was no way anyone was going to beat him today, 
he was a machine. He was so far in the zone that at one point he was 
putting Ketchup on a hot dog during his landing.
 
Rick Eckels used his own formula for scoring the man on man event, which 
has something do with sacrificing a chicken and generous use of power 
eraser.
 
We went thru the whole day without a broken line and I don't think we had a 
delay between groups of more than ...well just enough time to let the birds 
circling to get wayyy down wind :-)
 
Jim McC came up to join us and had hopes of getting even from our last 
meeting here, but a last round of really stinky air sent him back down south 
with dreams of next time.
Allan Parsons (yep the I Robot guy) really had his Fusion working on 
steroids, some of the best launches and reflex runs I have ever seen with a 
bagged plane...it really is one of the top contest ships...still.
 
I timed for one of the veterans during the last round, he flys a Genital 
Lady and I think he hadn't had a round over 1 1/2mins all day, I got him settled 
down and he went for a huge launch with a ping at the endhe was light on the 
pedal but really controlled his energy and I think it was the highest I had ever 
seen one of those balsa birds ever launch..and he even got a ping!  Hank is 
not 30years old :-)  He had been a full size DG owner for a lot of years, 
but his eyes and thumbs had had better days, but that last flight he managed 
energy and followed the river of air and had it spec'd without a turn.  At 
just over a minute left, we were talking about how great it was going to be to 
hit that 100 to cap off the flight...when a clubmate came shooting across with a 
NSP Edge, T boned the GL and shredded it.  Both planes were too far out to 
be able to judge depth and proximity so no foul on either partthe GL parts 
worked their way to Terra Firma and the day ended with a slight bummer 
and a great story for the BBQ restaurant afterward ;-)
 
Me, always a bridesmaid down here it seems. ;-)  Had her in the bag 
but got hammered with a line tangle and then a late launch and lousy thumbing 
:-)
 
Sure wish you could have been there too!
Gordy
orlando today louisivlle today

[RCSE] New! Performance Tuning DVD

[Paul Naton]

Anyone who not a "super expert" needs to have this new 2 hour DVD. 

Performance Tuning covers rigging, building straight, CG, incidence and 
decalage,
radio set ups, adverse yaw correction, tuning V-tails and flight demos. 

Simply the most complete program ever offered on glider tuning & 
a great teaching tool to help others get the most from their gliders. 

For More Details About The New DVD & For The Preview Trailer: 
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Re: [RCSE] Carbon Supra #48 flies - weight < 61 oz !

[Paul Jacobson]

Hi Michael,

you might like to take a look at:

http://www.teaser.fr/~osegouin/aeromode/servos.phtml

The program is in french but looking at the screenshot it seems  
pretty straight forward.
The data includes "courant maximal" which should give you the info  
you need.


I'll add the observation  that the manual for the Schulze 8.35 rx  
recommends that no switch be used between battery and rx, and that  
use a  battery with two sets of heavy duty wires connected to the rx  
to ensure best performance.


cheers
Paul


On 18/02/2006, at 10:41 AM, Michael Neverdosky wrote:


I think I got off by a power of ten so things are not as bad as my
numbers make it but the idea of checking to see what is really needed
so I can use enough wire without just throwing more wire at it is
sound.

Anybody know the full stall current draw of the popular servos?


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[RCSE] Winter reminder for contest pilots

[Paul Emerson]

At the SWC I saw no less than three batteries go sour on 3 different
stopwatches (luckily only one was during a task). Don't check your
stopwatch battery before you fly, just replace it.

Paul
www.casl.net
aka SWC winch master with the bullhorn

Re: [RCSE] OT Great Movie!

[Paul Breed]

At 08:16 PM 2/13/2006 -0500, you wrote:

By Indian, they're talking about the motorcycle, no?


Yes an Indian motorcycle



Paul Breed wrote:


Anyone that creates things with their own hands needs to
go see The Worlds Fastest Indian.
Its the story of an older man from New Zealand that
had a dream to compete in the Bonnavile land speed records.
It's the best most up lifting movie I've seen in years.
Paul

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[RCSE] OT Great Movie!

[Paul Breed]

Anyone that creates things with their own hands needs to
go see The Worlds Fastest Indian.

Its the story of an older man from New Zealand that
had a dream to compete in the Bonnavile land speed records.
It's the best most up lifting movie I've seen in years.

Paul


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Re: [RCSE] "Results of Southwest Soaring"

[Paul Emerson]

Scores are up at http://www.casl.net/swc_data/06scores.html
 
Thanks for coming out and see you next time.
 
Paul
 
On 2/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi guys,
 
Well I made it from snowing Atlanta today to Puerto Vallartawere it is not snowing :-)
 
Sitting on the beach typing this note. 
Everyone here is wondering about what fun everyone had at the SWC this weekend...well at least I think that's what all the chatter is about(they tend to speak Spanish here).  
 
In any case I think one of them was talking about how well Don Richmonds internal pushrods worked on his Supra, and how he was getting a lot of envious looks from other guys who have 'outies'.
 
And I think there was some funny reports on wild landings and flip oversbut again, it was all in Spanish.
 
I guess if you 'add em' all up, the comments sounded pretty positive :-)
 
GordyLife is currently a beach

Re: [RCSE] SWC

[Paul Emerson]

I left before the scores were posted today. The first round was 4
minutes and then there were 4 rounds of add-em up with a total of 33
minutes. However things were running behind so they shortened it to 3
rounds of 23 minutes (my numbers may be a little off).

Weather was nice with a little breeze pushing the thermals away from
the field pretty quick and causing a few to land off-field.

The real excitement was a plane hitting the power lines south of the
field on friday. And then an Icon getting fried on the same power
lines today. The icon hung there for a while burning until it finally
burned right through the power line, bringing it down. (both times
cutting power to the whole farm community and getting the local
utility company scrambling some trucks out - neither were happy with
us) I don't know if you have ever seen a plane fry on the wires but it
makes an awesome flash/noise/mushroom cloud of black smoke!
BAP

Today after the Icon cut the power, I was out by the end of the field
looking for a dropped pocketknife when I heard a plane hit the power
lines again right behind me! Luckily the power was off, or this
Cherry-red Supra woulda been BBQ ship #3. It was unscathed.

So far as the Supras go - they fly well, but without the anticipated
miraculousness.

I found the pocketknife BTW.



On 2/11/06, Marta Zavala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looking forward to hearing first day results.  Are they flying addem up
> this year?  If so 1st day results for many are pretty much meaningless.
> Walter
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[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #7099 --Old Graupner Sailplane Part?

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

I'll second that request !!??  I NEED one,
too  Sky Pilot!
From: "Jim Deck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Subject: Old Graupner Sailplane
Part?
    I just acquired an old Graupner sailplane.  It
has a T-tail with a two piece plastic mounting device the allows a
full-flying stab to rock on top the fin.  This plastic piece is
broken and appears to have been a weak link in the design.  Does
Graupner (or perhaps someone in this forum) stock old bits and
pieces?  The sailplane is pretty attractive and looks like a good
sport flyer so I'd like to restore it. Thanks in
advance,    Jim Deck

Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan    (AMA # 53 777
1)

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[RCSE] RE:assisted soaring,etc

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

From: Tom Kallevang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  "This is Gordy's
best post yet, on ANY subject!" tk
Guess that is how the cookie crumbles!  --ppc

Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan    (AMA # 53 777
1)

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Re: [RCSE] Computer Guided Thermaling

[Paul & Rickie Clark]

At 08:25 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
The only time I had an advantage with the thermal sensor was when the
model was directly overhead or at extreme visual range.  --Chuck
Anderson
Chuck!  Does this mean you are going back to using it again
:-/ :-) !!??

Paul Clark, SKY PILOT, Osaka, Japan    (AMA # 53 777
1)

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[RCSE] We'll Be At The AMA SHOW This Weekend !

[Paul Naton]

Radio Carbon Art will be at this weekend's AMA show in Ontario.   I'll be 
joining Bob and the crew at the huge Soaring USA booth all three days.

Come by to visit and to pick up those DVDs you have been wanting to buy at a 
special show price.   Looks like we'll have a LCD projector at the booth this 
year as well.

Might even have a demo showing of the new Performance Tuning DVD which will be 
shipping soon after the show.

See you there!

Paul Naton

Producers of High Quality Silent Flight DVDs
http://www.radiocarbonart.com
Tel: 541-752-9661
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[RCSE] Happy Holidays from R/C Art

[Paul Naton]

To all of our dear friends on the RCSE,

Happy Holidays, and May Ther Be More Peace On Earth.

Paul & Aimee and the new addition Casey.


--
Paul Naton
president-Radio Carbon Art
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[RCSE] Happy Holidays from R/C Art

[Paul Naton]

To all of our dear friends on the RCSE,

Happy Holidays, and May Ther Be More Peace On Earth.

Paul & Aimee and the new addition Casey.




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