Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] But... It sounds soooo good
So, just to be sure: if I connect the Touch in coax to a Cambridge audio DACMagic that is conneceted in RCA to my amp, I should hear an improvement (I haven't tested it yet) ? -- didjean SB3 + Cambridge Audio 640R + Cambridge Audio DAC Magic + Q Acoustics 1050i * Duet + Yamaha DSP A595 + Morel Applause MKII * Boom * Red Radio * Windows XP SP2 / Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 - r29019 on ASRock ION 330 didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77478 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] But... It sounds soooo good
didjean;537416 Wrote: So, just to be sure: if I connect the Touch in coax to a Cambridge audio DACMagic that is conneceted in RCA to my amp, I should hear an improvement (I haven't tested it yet) ? Correct. However you probably need to listen to it carefully to hear the difference as it is a close call. You'll also need very good original sound recordings. -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for Squeezebox'_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl)Server . 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77478 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Alternate Touch stand
I've received my Touch last Friday and really like it. The sound out of the analogue output is much better than my SB3 or Receiver. But there is one thing that should be really improved: the Touch stand. It really should be adjustable. When I am sting in my couch, I can barely see the display (the Touch stands on a furniture 20° below my view at 3 meters). -- didjean SB3 + Cambridge Audio 640R + Cambridge Audio DAC Magic + Q Acoustics 1050i * Duet + Yamaha DSP A595 + Morel Applause MKII * Boom * Red Radio * Windows XP SP2 / Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 - r29019 on ASRock ION 330 didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77393 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] But... It sounds soooo good
Thanks for the answer. I'll give it a try this evening. The analogue outputs are already better than the SB3 and Receiver. -- didjean SB3 + Cambridge Audio 640R + Cambridge Audio DAC Magic + Q Acoustics 1050i * Duet + Yamaha DSP A595 + Morel Applause MKII * Boom * Red Radio * Windows XP SP2 / Squeezebox Server 7.4.2 - r29019 on ASRock ION 330 didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77478 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] what are recan stages?
Could someone please let me know, or point me to the messages (in the Squeezebox Server screen) for a successful (re)scan, and how it looks at completion. I'm suspicious that something is stopping my tinySC completing its scan but not sure ... my screen initially does scanning media (finds around 60,000 - though they are only 25,000 tracks) then gets as far as Discovering Files: Complete Scan New Files: Complete Scan Artwork: Complete it seems to find 2038 new files each time, but the USB drive hasn't been touched - this makes me think the previous scan never completed properly. -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77598 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
I've successfully moved my entire 600GB and counting library off of my drive, reformatted it and connected it directly to the Touch and I'm getting nothing. SBS is running, it appears to be doing a light scan of some sort and then nothing. Nothing pops up in My Music. I ejected the drive and reconnected several times and Wiped and Scanned several times too. I am currently using an iTunes file structure that works perfectly fine within iTunes. Am I doing something wrong here? -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Rangdo;537409 Wrote: Wired connection (SBT cat5 cabled into a gigabit switch which is cat6 cabled to the server). Ok, so another person not using using an external Server instead of using the Touch built in SBS. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
metalbob;537456 Wrote: I've successfully moved my entire 600GB and counting library off of my drive, reformatted it and connected it directly to the Touch and I'm getting nothing. It might be the way you typed that, but it reads like you have an freshly formatted drive attached to your touch with no files on it. That amount of music might take a little while (like all day) to scan. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezbox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
Hello, I would like to open this thread to collect experiences of scaning times of your music from an external USB HD using the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (Touch as a stand alone player using an external USB HD). I've already posted my experiences in another thread, but I would like to open this one, so we can get an overview of how the touch behaves depending of the mount of data to be scaned or the type of USB HD (2,5 or 3,5 external HD's). Maybe we can get something usefull from this for the developers of the server software... USB-HD: Toshiba 2,5, 500 GB, AC powered Files: ~5 Scan time: ~9-12 hours Scan results: sucessfull, but when trying to play something, the server stops, restarts and begings to scan the USB for new files Scan for new files time: ~9 hours If you have any solution to reduce the scan times, we will be very glad to hear about it! (please don't write to have less files) You can use this template for your results: USB-HD: Files: Scan time: Scan results: Scan for new files time: Thanks and regards! Nacho PS: To the moderators, if you think this is a bad idea, just ignore this thread, but if you think this can be usefull, please create a Sticky, to have it always on the first page. -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
Have you updated the firmware after unboxing? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax and rca out
Mnyb;537350 Wrote: If you have an 2 zone amp you can have multiroom el cheopo . I see, because Zone 2 often (always?) requires analog. Thanks. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77580 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax and rca out
Mnyb;537350 Wrote: If you have an 2 zone amp you can have multiroom el cheopo . I see, because Zone 2 often (always?) requires analog. Thanks. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77580 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
They are in ALAC format. Editing FLAC metadata is a nightmare on a Mac, which is why I went that route. This Touch thing - as cool as it is - doesn't seem to be working out too well for me here -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
pounce;537474 Wrote: Have you updated the firmware after unboxing? The firmware is up-to-date (first thing done after starting the touch for the first time), but what do you exactly mean with unboxing? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
m1abrams;537477 Wrote: What format are the files in? I am not sure but the touch builtin server I believe does not support ALAC. don't use ALAC but search some other threads, I think 7.5.1 may have added this support. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
ah...ok. Thanks! ...and how is your experience with the scaning? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
Too slow for my preference. I don't think anyone with a large collection or a collection that changes a lot is going to want to use the internal SBS at this point in time. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
Coming in 7.6 apparently. I guess I can hold off a bit longer and keep this thing connected to my router/computer for now. I'm not even done ripping my whole collection yet anyway. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=532796postcount=3 -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch is linux?
servies wrote: pfarrell;537322 Wrote: I don't see it as important, but I can understand why a company would want to stay as far away from the GPL virus license as possible. To such a company I would say: Start writing your own os/whatever and stop profiting from the -free- work of others without giving back... I see the GPL more like an antibiotic against parasites. Well, this thread has quickly gone of into the weeds, as to most discussions of Stallman's religion. Cultures and economies improve when there is specialization of labor. Some farm, some are blacksmiths, some bakers, some retailers. There are lots of Free Software licenses out there. Apache's, BSD's and MITs are examples of free licenses that are free of the Stallman virus. The proof that Stallman is right on everything is clear, since we are all running Gnu/Hurd. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
and what about a small NAS solution? how faster is it? Is there any not too expensive (more or less 100 EUR) NAS HD, in which the squeezebox server can be installed? I've already seen the list on the wiki, but they all are too expensive and big. Any experiences with this? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
Remember not to completely fill the USB drive with music. There must be room for Touch to write the scan data and other things to the USB drive. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Phil Leigh;536874 Wrote: It is frustrating but you need to understand that there are (at least) 2 seperate problems, both of which only impact certain people based on THEIR specific combination of platform and music files. As such these bugs can be very hard to prevent (and quite hard to fix). They certainly weren't hit during beta AFAIK. However, Andy has fixed the faad memory exception bug that was occasionally causing faad to crash on alac playback. The Can't open file... problem is different... I've been trying to help with this but I can never recreate this error on XP SP3 with 7.6. I've used example files sent by people with the problem and they all work fine on my system. At one point it looked like the alac files were possibly being misinterpreted as AAC (or MPEG-4 as SBS refers to them) and hence faad was not being invoked - the native AAC decoder was being invoked instead. This won't work, hence the advice to check your file types to ensure that MPEG-4 is set to stream as FLAC via faad (same as Apple Lossless. If you turn on player.source logging you can see exactly what SBS is trying to do when you play a track... This is NOT the default. However, this is only a workaraound (if I'm correct about the alac files being wrongly identified as AAC). There may also be a problem with the tags generated via iTunes, but I can't comment on that...I think some other folks have been looking at that. My ALAC files arent being seen as ALAC, just MPEG-4 So it never even hits the ALAC filetype. And it was trying to convert to AAC, which I guess cant be done. M -- mcullinan mcullinan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax and rca out
crimscrem;537347 Wrote: May I ask why one would want to use both (or have both available)? I thought about doing this so that I had the option of listening to music in two channel without the subwoofer (using RCA). But just curious why others would want to. Works well if one upgrades ones HT Receiver and wants to put the old one in a nearby room. My across the street neighbor did just this. Moved the old Receiver down stairs and dropped a Toslink cable down through the wall. And he put a pair of powered speakers in the dining room ceiling off of the RCA outs while he was fishing cables in the wall. Coax to new HT Receiver of course. Three zones for the price of one Squeezebox. Of course the Zones all have to play the same song since it is really one big zone, but it does what he wants it to. The Master Bedroom is offset right above the Kitchen so he is putting a Touch in the wall of the Master Bedroom, dropping the RCAs down the wall to the MS whole house Intercom System AUX In (3m RCA pair reaches with room to spare) and bringing the Coax Out to a small Receiver with built-in DAC in the bedroom. I hope Logitech releases the wall mount soon and its the same size as the beta ones as he used my Touch Wall Mount to make his cutout already. His Touch should be here this week, just waiting to hear about the wall mount. He has an iPhone with iPeng to control it all with. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77580 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
pfink;537523 Wrote: Which file system did you format the drive with (FAT32, NTFS, EXT3, etc)? Probably not directed to me but my 320GB USB drive is FAT32, my 640GB USB drive is NTFS, and my 2TB USB drive is EXT3. All work fine with my Touch. 320 and 640 are USB powered, the 2TB is external powered from a wall wart. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
krochat;537518 Wrote: I think there should be an option to disable or bypass the new file scan once the database has been created. It could even prompt with scan for new files? when a drive with an existing scan database has been newly attached (or the Touch has been rebooted). yeah...I would say they should add an option to disable the scan at all, or to choose between a deep scan (ID3 tag scan) or a simple folder and filename scan (no ID3 tag, only file structure). The search modul should then be able to search for folder or filenames. The ID3 Tag information could be read from the file and be displayed directly while playing the title. -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
Throw some simple MP3's on the drive, see if those are read properly by Touch server. At least you will know if there is any HD incompatibility with your Touch, while waiting for ALAC support. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
krochat;537518 Wrote: I was going to try swapping two USB drives in and out since my library is too big to fit on one drive,... On a filled up HD the Database will be on the slow end of the disk I guess. You could try to split your Data 50:50. -- jo-wie 2 * Classic, 1 * Boom, SC 7.5.1 auf GigaByte STA/C mit VIA C7 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 250 GB 2,5 HD, Ubuntu Desktop 8.04 LTS, CD - FLAC = dbpoweramp, Mix MusicIP, Router AVM Fritz 3270 last.fm/user/jo-wie jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
iPhone;537532 Wrote: Probably not directed to me but my 320GB USB drive is FAT32, my 640GB USB drive is NTFS, and my 2TB USB drive is EXT3. All work fine with my Touch. 320 and 640 are USB powered, the 2TB is external powered from a wall wart. It was directed at the OP. He mentioned that he was using a Mac and I wasn't sure if HFS+ was supported by the Touch, if that's what he used to format the drive. -- pfink pfink's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax and rca out
iPhone;537530 Wrote: Works well if one upgrades ones HT Receiver and wants to put the old one in a nearby room. My across the street neighbor did just this. Moved the old Receiver down stairs and dropped a Toslink cable down through the wall. And he put a pair of powered speakers in the dining room ceiling off of the RCA outs while he was fishing cables in the wall. Coax to new HT Receiver of course. Three zones for the price of one Squeezebox. Of course the Zones all have to play the same song since it is really one big zone, but it does what he wants it to. The Master Bedroom is offset right above the Kitchen so he is putting a Touch in the wall of the Master Bedroom, dropping the RCAs down the wall to the MS whole house Intercom System AUX In (3m RCA pair reaches with room to spare) and bringing the Coax Out to a small Receiver with built-in DAC in the bedroom. I hope Logitech releases the wall mount soon and its the same size as the beta ones as he used my Touch Wall Mount to make his cutout already. His Touch should be here this week, just waiting to hear about the wall mount. He has an iPhone with iPeng to control it all with. This gives me some ideas. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77580 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/logitech-squeezebox-touch-review/ -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
jo-wie;537545 Wrote: On a filled up HD the Database will be on the slow end of the disk I guess. You could try to split your Data 50:50. Actually, the 750GB drive I mentioned is a FLAC -0 experiment to see if I can play 96/24 files off an attached hard drive. (Not satisfactory, stuttered for a couple of seconds at the beginning of each track unless played into from the previous track). My actual library is split across two 2TB drives, each with at least 500GB free. I only had the patience to run the scan on one of the two 2TB drives. Regards, Kim -- krochat -- iZotope SRC (96kHz offline upsampler) - Touch - TacT RCS 2.2X - Convolver PC (w/Acourate filter)- Apogee Big Ben - (TacT S2150 - Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT S2150 - TacT W210) krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A couple of problems
The Touch should be putting out digital silence (24 zeroes) between tracks with gaps. Some dacs treat this as no signal - although they shouldn't. Not sure if this is your problem? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77559 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
mcullinan;537520 Wrote: My ALAC files arent being seen as ALAC, just MPEG-4 So it never even hits the ALAC filetype. And it was trying to convert to AAC, which I guess cant be done. M This is the weird thing, because that Copland file you posted played fine under 7.6 for me on XP... wonder if there is a Mac issue with ALAC detection...? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
toby10;537535 Wrote: Throw some simple MP3's on the drive, see if those are read properly by Touch server. At least you will know if there is any HD incompatibility with your Touch, while waiting for ALAC support. ;) My HD is formatted in FAT32. I spent an entire day moving files around and reformatting. Now that this comes up, I actually tested it with a flash drive when I first set it up with ALAC files on it and it worked fine. And I think those were buried in a music folder. Is it possible that the file structure is not reading correctly? It's set up exactly like it should be for iTunes. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
Bad review. No comments on audio and they didn't even get the point abou the embedded server. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
pippin;537572 Wrote: Bad review. No comments on audio and they didn't even get the point abou the embedded server. What comments on the audio would you expect from Engadget? Sounds better than the Duet? Yeah, right. Very very few purchasers of this device would ever be able to tell a difference in audio quality between the Touch and a previous Squeezebox. He briefly alludes to the embedded server when describing the USB and SD card port. Given the limitations and the many problems that people are having with the embedded server, maybe it's better left unmentioned. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Phil Leigh;537562 Wrote: This is the weird thing, because that Copland file you posted played fine under 7.6 for me on XP... wonder if there is a Mac issue with ALAC detection...? Im thinking so.. Im on a PowerPC G5, I wonder if the Intel Macs also see ALAC as MPEG-4? On a PC it sees an ALAC? M -- mcullinan mcullinan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Alternate Touch stand
Me too. I have paper towels wadded up under it to angle it upright. pita. -- mcullinan mcullinan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77393 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
They compare a lot with the Duet interface (i.e., the Controller) being so much better than the Touch's remote interface (using the IR), but of course they fail to mention (or realize?) that the Controller also works with the Touch. -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
Is your drive USB powered or is there a wallwart or similar? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Help with USB Drive
Just got the touch today and I'm having problems with the USB Drive. I have a 320g drive with 150g of FLAC files The drive is recognized by the Touch, Squeezebox Server is started and I get the message: Discovering Files: Complete ...but the touch does not list any of my music. What am I doing wrong? Tony -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77613 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch analog vs. digital outputs
ralphpnj;537251 Wrote: What are the impressions of other Touch owners who have taken the time to make a similar comparison? My first impressions (of the analog outputs) were very good, too, at first: I was wondering whether I would have to keep my dacs. Had a more careful listen today. As a result, although the SBT internal dac is certainly very good (for the money, and even regardless of price), it remains different enough from my own dacs. So, I'll be keeping my dacs (Northstar and Caiman) for various reasons, mainly for the extra smoothness of the Italian beauty and the mid-bass immediateness of the latter. SBT is somewhere between the two, but I don't see the interest of it at the moment. Perhaps a long-run listen will show otherwise. Perhaps not, but in any case, it didn't cost me extra money, did it ? ;) The digital output of the SBT (compared to the SB3) is a keeper, that's for sure. :) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Croft 25Pre and Series 7 power - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77576 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
metalbob;537565 Wrote: Is it possible that the file structure is not reading correctly? It's set up exactly like it should be for iTunes. That's why I'm suggesting throwing a few MP3's into the iTunes folder. ;) If Touch sees and plays those fine then it may just be the ALAC format that is the issue. I presume your iTunes are not DRM'd / protected? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax and rca out
Also makes ABX comparisons a breeze, comparing the players Analog vs Digital outs. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77580 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Delivery of Touch to UK
result! :) UPS delivery note, take it that'll mean its atually in the country then, and not sitting in Hollandshire waiting on a clearer sky? Just asking as Im in a similar position. ta. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77546 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
tcutting;537584 Wrote: They compare a lot with the Duet interface (i.e., the Controller) being so much better than the Touch's remote interface (using the IR), but of course they fail to mention (or realize?) that the Controller also works with the Touch. This is a key issue many reviewers and normal users have with the Squeezebox products is that they do not see them as a System. Funny thing is the same issue does not occur with Sonos. Maybe the problem is the way they are Marketed. Maybe if Logitech marketed the Squeezebox line better as a system more people would get it. Personally I do not see where the marketing is failing because they have the Grid everywhere displaying exactly which device works best for what which to me screams system. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help with USB Drive
It's probably still scanning. When complete the scanner results will show three complete messages. You should be able to play songs from your Music Folder menu while it is scanning. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77613 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
m1abrams;537612 Wrote: This is a key issue many reviewers and normal users have with the Squeezebox products is that they do not see them as a System. They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Only the Controller (and I suppose the Touch's hinky embedded server) have any use with another Squeezebox. Not many people are willing to buy a $300 Controller to operate their $300 Touch when it's not needed and when there are arguably better remote control options. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
metalbob;537625 Wrote: It is all ALAC ripped from CDs. I can't test this until I get home tonight, but like I said, the ALAC files worked fine off of a flash drive in a random folder and the file structure on the HD worked fine with iTunes. The HD is actually a RAID box that is powered from the wall. so the HD is actually a standalone USB harddrive, not a NAS (like a readynas duo, etc.) -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
JJZolx;537626 Wrote: They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Only the Controller (and I suppose the Touch's hinky embedded server) have any use with another Squeezebox. Not many people are willing to buy a $300 Controller to operate their $300 Touch when it's not needed and when there are arguably better remote control options. Sure it's a system, it's just a system that consist of individual parts that also can work as standalone products. What's the price of a Sonos graphical remote control and a Sonos playback device/server ? However, I can agree that the current price of the Controller doesn't really make sense when you compare it with an iPod Touch that's cheaper and IMHO better than the Controller. At about half the price, around $149, the Controller would feel a lot more interesting. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
JJZolx;537626 Wrote: They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Only the Controller (and I suppose the Touch's hinky embedded server) have any use with another Squeezebox. Not many people are willing to buy a $300 Controller to operate their $300 Touch when it's not needed and when there are arguably better remote control options. It is a system, yes it can work separate. However the fact that it works as a system is a big asset that is not shown well. This system idea works great because the investment I made in my SB1 has grown over time with newer products. I still use my SB1, mind you its usefulness is quickly coming to an end since it does not support FLAC natively but please do not mention that to him he is sensitive about it ;) and keeps saying But the server can transcode to WAV just fine for me -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
garym;537631 Wrote: so the HD is actually a standalone USB harddrive, not a NAS (like a readynas duo, etc.) Yes. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] coax and rca out
crimscrem;537347 Wrote: May I ask why one would want to use both (or have both available)? I thought about doing this so that I had the option of listening to music in two channel without the subwoofer (using RCA). But just curious why others would want to. sorry i was away from this thread for a while. i have two systems in one - a 2 channel system (that i will run the rca into) and a HT system (that i will run the coax into in case i am too lazy to fire up the 2 channel for critical listening but just want to hit a button on my remote and switch from watching tv to listening to music). -- ratso Emerald Physics CS2.3's - Odyssey Stratos/Khartago amps (coming soon) - Supratek Chardonnay Preamp - Slim Devices Touch - Panamax M4300PM power conditioner - KRK Ergo room correction - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77580 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
metalbob;537625 Wrote: It is all ALAC ripped from CDs. I can't test this until I get home tonight, but like I said, the ALAC files worked fine off of a flash drive in a random folder and the file structure on the HD worked fine with iTunes. The HD is actually a RAID box that is powered from the wall. Correct, which is why I suspect the HD itself. ;) Flash drive worked using same iTunes folders and codec. HD does not (seem to) work using same (but more quantity) iTunes folders and codec. So I'd throw a couple of MP3's into that same iTunes folder, rescan, see if they show up. There are known USB incompatibilities with Touch, hopefully yours is not one of them. Probably unlikely that this is your actual issue, but if it were me I'd like to eliminate the HD as a possible problem before digging into codecs. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help with USB Drive
toby10;537622 Wrote: It's probably still scanning. When complete the scanner results will show three complete messages. You should be able to play songs from your Music Folder menu while it is scanning. That's what I thought, but its not. The problem was that I was using a Mac HFS+ formatted drive (I thought that the Touch supported this). I tested with a 4g USB drive with 10 FLAC files, and I was able to get the Touch to recognize only a FAT32 formatted by OS X. I'm re-formatting the 320g to FAT32 now and I'll see if it works later today. Tony -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77613 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
You don't need to run the hinky server to use Touch as a controller for other squeezeboxes it has a Choose Player menu just like the controller. But then of course you have the regular sbs running somewhere. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
Mnyb;537658 Wrote: You don't need to run the hinky server to use Touch as a controller for other squeezeboxes it has a Choose Player menu just like the controller. But then of course you have the regular sbs running somewhere. You also can use the Radio to control other devices, not sure I personally would but you can. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
metalbob;537649 Wrote: Yes. Can you detail the brand and model when you get a chance? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
Hey, you're not alone.I've got a big library of 250 Gbytes, and had numerous issues getting my new Squeezebox touch to work properly. My main problem was that when scanning for files, after about 4 hours of scanning the HDD, some time after starting to scan album art, the squeezebox stops with an error music server stopped due to a problem. I tried 4 different models of USB HDD (including a powered one) and I bought a USB powered hub in case the unpowered USB HDDs couldn't supply sufficient current without luck. Some issues I had along the way included: 1) USB connection dropped repeatedly. 2) When I navigate to a file and try to play it I get an error Problem can not open file for: 3) GUI freezes or is unuseably slow 4) Server needs restarting 5) Impossible to browse by tags because every time you enter a menu such as Artists It takes forever to populate the entries. That would be OK if it remembered them, but as soon as you exit that menu and re-enter it does the same thing again. 6) Squeezebox hangs saying it is scanning but it's not, the HDD isn't even spinning. Eventually after several scans, wipe and rescans and factory resets, I got it to scan everything although albumart is missing (which was working at one point), I can't log into the squeezebox server (which was working) and the device is permanently scanning for new files (which I guess is making the GUI so slow).Wouldn't it make more sense to be able to manually control the file scanning and choose the directories. I have other stuff on my HDD I don't want scanned. I also tried to point the picture viewer at a picasa album embedded URL and that failed too. So, I'm very unimpressed so far but I haven't given up yet. -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
OK, let me see if I have this straight, with an external server playing 24/96 files works fine, is this using wired or wireless? Does it play fine any compression level (-0 -5 -8 etc)? The problem occurs when playing the 24/96 file off a USB drive connected directly to the Touch, correct? If this is the case its fairly understandable. The builtin server takes up a lot of memory leaving almost no free memory. My guess is that the higher level decoding takes a larger chunk of code or larger buffers which pushes things over the edge. The stuttering sounds like there isn't enough memory to hold everything in memory all at once so the memory manager swapping stuff in and out of memory as it switches between the server and the player. In order to get things to work better you need to cut down on the memory used, any little bit helps. One thing that takes memory is the sharing of the USB drive over the network. If you have turned this on, turn it off and see if that improves things. Also things like don't run the image viewer at the same time, don't use the spectrum analyzer or VU meters. If the tracks have artwork you might want to try using the now playing screen that doesn't show artwork. If none of that helps then it looks like your options are to run with -0 if you want to run with the builtin server, OR run off an external server. IF you are running off an external server (and you don't have a USB drive plugged in) and you STILL have problems with 24/96 FLAC then we have some more detective work to do. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
John, Do you have a Touch? There are several threads on the same topic really discussing a lot of these point. I think you have restated many of the issues well. In a nutshell using an external server works best. Obviously, this is not how the Touch was designed to be positioned, but for 24/96 that seems to work best. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
An external *wired* server.. wifi + WPA PSK decryption uses some juice too.. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to get to the Home screen
Touch and hold the back button on the screen. - OR - Swipe the screen from left to right. (Swiping from right to left takes you to Now Playing.) -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77621 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to get to the Home screen
Hold the top left hand back arrow. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77621 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to get to the Home screen
Swipe your finger from left to right on the screen. Swiping from right to left takes you to the now playing screen. -- Hofstede Hofstede's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77621 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to get to the Home screen
awesome. Thank you guys! -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77621 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
usch;535674 Wrote: But be aware that - according to the release notes - playlists on the Touch are limited to 100 items anyway. The Touch only allows playlists of 100 songs? That seems rather limiting. -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Delivery of Touch to UK
bonze;537592 Wrote: Ordered one from the Logitech site at the weekend (used my voucher) Got a shipping message from UPS today and it said the package would arrive Wednesday. Voucher??? Can we get a discount?!!! -- Hugo_NAS Hugo_NAS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26572 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77546 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Sorry I've been off this for a few days, trying to work on other things. Anyway it looks like we seemed to have settled down to a few people have problems with 24/96 at higher compression when using wiFi to an external server. In some cases wired fixes these. First off, does anybody have any problems with an form of 24/96 when WIRED to an external server? From what I'm reading it looks like its a wiFi issue. When using WiFi wav seems to work and flac -0 seems to work. Higher compression wav seems to work when transcoded to PCM. Does anybody have a situation where flac -0 or wav does NOT work? If the above is true, then it looks like we just have to worry about streaming over WiFi with flac greater than -0. Does this seem to be the situation? Given that wavs seem to work it does not sound like its a transmission bandwidth issue. This seems to point to it being something inside the touch, some sort of interaction between WiFi and higher level flac decompression. IF the builtin server is not running the amount of free memory should be plenty to handle the needs of this operation so I don't think that is the first place to look. To me it seems like there are two reasons stuttering might be happening, either data throughput is not fast enough for some reason, or the code working with that data is not running (swapped out of memory or process not running). Lets try and come up with some possible scenarios and see if we can come up with some tests to try and pinpoint whats happening. (the problem here is that I don't have the problem so I can't go off and run these tests myself, its going to have to be those that DO have the problem who run the tests) Some of the previous tests have noticed that the CPU will max out occasionaly, but only for short periods of time. One of the tests seemed to show that low average with occasional max bursts works fine, but much higher average without the max bursts does cause problems. This sort of makes sense since there are fairly large buffers in the player code, so short interruptions in the data flow should not be a problem. One option to try here is increase the buffer size in squeezeplay and see if that improves things. Another place I would like ot look at is the WiFi itself. There are various levels of encription in use in WiFi, no encryption, WEP and several levels of WPA. I would like to see if varying the encryption type makes any difference. So could any of you that have the problem try different encryptions levels on your WiFi and report back. Another thing to look at is process run statistics, see if either the WiFi or jive process is not getting run for significant periods of time. Another thing to check is if there is any significant swapping going on. Given the fairly large amount of free memory there SHOULDN'T be any swapping happening, but its a good idea to check. I'll leave it at that for now. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help with USB Drive
That's what I thought, but its not. The problem was that I was using a Mac HFS+ formatted drive (I thought that the Touch supported this). I Please file a bug. Unsupported filesystem should come up with an appropriate error message and not even pretend to be scanning or something. We need to verify this. Thanks! -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
m1abrams;537612 Wrote: Personally I do not see where the marketing is failing As long as Logitech can't even deliver to customers who desperately want to buy Squeezebox products, they don't have to be too concerned about marketing strategies. :rolleyes: I think the problem is that all Squeezeboxes are peripherals, but there is no central product to tie it all together. While it is a huge benefit of the Squeezebox system that you can simply use your computer as a media server and don't need an extra box, that doesn't seem to work for everybody. It's hard to believe, but there are actually people who check their e-mails only once a week, and only turn their computer on to write a letter or to play a game, and switch it off immediately afterwards. See how many users are running SBS on a NAS, VortexBox, or SheevaPlug. So if I may make a guess, the next member of the Squeezebox family has to be a dedicated server with built-in storage. And since they are certainly not developing the embedded SBS as a personal favour for users of 3rd party hardware, that's an easy guess indeed. IMHO. -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
OK, I see 'here' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server#No_Configurable_Settings) that when using the Touch as a home music server, The maximum playlist length is capped at 100 tracks. I don't quite understand exactly what this means. I assume it's saying that if you have a Squeezebox Touch and a Squeezebox Radio, that the maximum number of tracks you can listen to on the Radio (via the Touch) is 100. However, does that also mean that if I only have a Squeezebox Touch, and I listen to songs stored on SD card, that my maximum SD card playlist will be 100? Could someone with a Squeezebox Touch please confirm whether you can have playlists longer than 100 songs when playing songs stored on USB drive or SD card? -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Delivery of Touch to UK
Hugo_NAS;537694 Wrote: Voucher??? Can we get a discount?!!!If we pre-ordered a previous Touch -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.6.0 - r30659 3 x wireless SB3, 1x Duet (eBay bound) and a Touch bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77546 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
Did you try the Factory settings reset? As mentioned, I did that after playing around and not getting that far with the initial scan. It's performed flawlessly since. -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
I'm one of the beta testers, so yes I have a Touch. I've run a lot of 24/96 on the Touch without a bit of problem, I'm trying to get a handle on what configuration is causing what problems for people so we can try and get to the bottom of what is happening and see if its possible to work out a solution. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
JJZolx;537718 Wrote: Not also. It's describing exactly the scenario you describe. It's a cap when using the built-in server of the Touch. If you're using another server running on a computer or NAS then the cap is whatever is set on that server (which defaults to 500, but can be increased.) Yes also. People who have never had a Squeezebox before don't know how the Squeezebox works. Usually when I think of a server, I think of it in terms of client-server, as in one device connecting to another. So the question is whether the built-in server is what the Touch uses when it is directly playing songs stored on itself. I guess the answer is yes. JJZolx;537718 Wrote: Yes, it's limited to 100 tracks when using the built-in server with a USB drive or SD card. I think this is due to memory problems with the Touch when running the server. Wow. I mean ... wow. If I don't want to keep my PC running all the time, so store songs directly on the Touch instead, I'll be limited to playlists of 100 songs. Really? A playlist is just text. I can't see how that uses up much memory. I think Logitech just lost a sale. Wow. Lame. -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch's Handling of High Rez Music Files
Does the Yamaha have an analog pass-trough of some kind. Most receivers digitize analog inputs anyway, and all does if you involve some processing at all even the subwoofer output. So it's often a moot point use digital in for that kind of machine. They are obviusly made for digital sources, their analog support is for legacy sources, like vhs and tape deck's. And no Touch will not sample rate convert. If you have squeezeboxserver running on your Mac and Tries an 24/192 file then sbs will downsample to 24/96 So it can be played by Touch. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77624 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
Mnyb;537726 Wrote: As soon as I involve my Touch or Radio ca 170 songs makes it totally unresponsive 100% cpu until you won't care anymore the whole system just dies. I'm starting to get the sense that the Touch is a giant software bug that also plays music. -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch's Handling of High Rez Music Files
Is this a pre-sales question? The Touch does not download files. You can play them from a local drive or SD card or you can use the Touch with a remotely installed SBS to play your files over the network. DAC sound is too subjective. Since you can hook up with analog and digital to your receiver you might just want to try both and do a blind test and just use the one *you* think sounds better. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77624 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
Ehrm it just so happened that I for some reason had bulked up with a 100m spool of cat5 and an extra switch, pliers rj45's etc. 5 months in advance when I preordered my Touch. 24/96 is not the most common requirement and trowing wifi in to it ? I did not thought that it was really realistic to just hope that it would work flawless. So I wired the lot this Sunday . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
JJZolx;537718 Wrote: Yes, it's limited to 100 tracks when using the built-in server with a USB drive or SD card. Is there at least an option to remove played tracks automatically from the current playlist so that you can keep adding albums as it plays, or do you need to remove 15 tracks or so manually before you can add another album? JJZolx;537718 Wrote: I think this is due to memory problems with the Touch when running the server. Actually that's something I don't quite get. The current playlist can only contain tracks from the database, each of which is identified by a unique ID which is a long int. 100 long ints take up 400 bytes. I can hardly believe that they could not afford 4k which would accomodate 1000 tracks, so they must be doing something really weird, like keeping the entire database record for each track in memory. -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
JohnSwenson;537727 Wrote: I'm one of the beta testers, so yes I have a Touch. I've run a lot of 24/96 on the Touch without a bit of problem, I'm trying to get a handle on what configuration is causing what problems for people so we can try and get to the bottom of what is happening and see if its possible to work out a solution. John S. Try this post. I created a basic matrix. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=537048#post537048 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Since we have a few threads discussing exactly the same topic I'm posting this as reference to a basic matrix that could be used for your investigation. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=537048#post537048 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
ziggyb63;537732 Wrote: Just got my Touch, still finding out all it can do... in terms of assigning a static Ip address, is the only way either disabling DHCP on the router, and\or SSH-ing in and modifying the appropriate file? I like to keep a tight rein on IP addresses and would have thought there would have been an easier way - I had nightmares assigning static IPs to my Duet receiver, would have thought it would be easy on the Touch It is easier, for the receiver you also had to resort to net::udap and ssh to the controller. The receiver was the tricky part. Now you only have the Touch to deal with, and SSH to. There is an old bug about it you want to vote from 2008 or so.. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;537701 Wrote: First off, does anybody have any problems with an form of 24/96 when WIRED to an external server? As posted earlier, I encountered stuttering when playing a 24/96 file when the Touch was wired to an external server. Re-flaccing to -0 cured this. There was a thumb drive with jpeg files plugged into the USB port; don't know if that has any bearing on the matter... Peter -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Peter314;537746 Wrote: As posted earlier, I encountered stuttering when playing a 24/96 file when the Touch was wired to an external server. Re-flaccing to -0 cured this. There was a thumb drive with jpeg files plugged into the USB port; don't know if that has any bearing on the matter... Peter HUGE bearing. Any drive (flash, HDD, whatever) plugged into the USB OR any SD card plugged in the builtin server starts up and IT takes a large amount of memory. That could very easily cause problems even with a wired connection. With something plugged into the USB the builtin server is running even if you are connected to an external server. You CAN go to settingsadvancedSqueezebox server and stop the server manually. Unless you do that it will stay running as long as the drive is plugged in. Could you try the wired connection without anything plugged into the USB or SD connectors? John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
Right now there are two ways to set the IP address, either ssh and modify the files, OR try and connect to a machine without a DHCP server and it will then ask if you want to setup a static IP. The easiest way to do this is run a cable from the Touch to a laptop ethernet port (NOT the switch or router on your LAN), assuming the laptop is NOT running a DHCP server. Go to settingsadvancednetworking and choose the network type as ethernet, this will try and connect to a DHCP server over the wire. It won't find one, then give you the option to use a static IP, say yes and enter the address. Unplug the wire from the laptop and go back to your normal connection (wired or wireless). Yeah its a little messy but you don't have to edit the files on the Touch. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
John- Do you know if this works with Radio too? Maybe I'll try it tonight (I've been meaning to setup the Radio with Static IP, but haven't spent any time making sure I understood which file(s) to modify and what the correct syntax would be!) -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
tcutting;537758 Wrote: John- Do you know if this works with Radio too? Maybe I'll try it tonight (I've been meaning to setup the Radio with Static IP, but haven't spent any time making sure I understood which file(s) to modify and what the correct syntax would be!) Sorry, no clue if this works on the Radio or not. It might, you can certainly try. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;537751 Wrote: With something plugged into the USB the builtin server is running even if you are connected to an external server. You CAN go to settingsadvancedSqueezebox server and stop the server manually. Unless you do that it will stay running as long as the drive is plugged in. I recall the inbuilt server did try to install itself when I plugged the USB drive in, but it gave the option to stop the installation, which I took. It did seem to have stopped but maybe something was going on in the background and using memory. Could you try the wired connection without anything plugged into the USB or SD connectors? Well, I -could- but I'd need to generate some files that aren't at -0, as I spent a while converting them all. :) I'll have a go when I get the time - maybe tomorrow. Peter -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;537701 Wrote: First off, does anybody have any problems with an form of 24/96 when WIRED to an external server? Yes, I just purchased some music from HDTracks.com and I experience stuttering - I am wired Gigabit ethernet to an external server - am am going to try re-flac to 0 to see if this cures the issue... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
ziggyb63;537774 Wrote: Yes, I just purchased some music from HDTracks.com and I experience stuttering - I am wired Gigabit ethernet to an external server - am am going to try re-flac to 0 to see if this cures the issue... Yep, reflac-ing to 0 cured the issue - can provide the original and re-flaced files for debugging purposes ~80MB each - was using coaxial out, digital vol 100%, Cat6 gigabit Ethernet everywhere. This is going to be a pain! -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
JJZolx;537626 Wrote: They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Well, sure, for folks like you and, well, I think just you :-), who blacklist mysqueezebox.com at your router... -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
i was actually expecting that the touch device act as a controller like the duet's, just with a larger screen. so, i'm as lightly puzzled as the reviewer - or did i and the reviewer miss that? i guess i could get a 30 foot coax cable and run it around the room and to the couch... -- kewe65 kewe65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
kewe65;537784 Wrote: i was actually expecting that the touch device act as a controller like the duet's, just with a larger screen. so, i'm as lightly puzzled as the reviewer - or did i and the reviewer miss that? i guess i could get a 30 foot coax cable and run it around the room and to the couch... It does act as a controller. Settings Choose Player. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Engadget Review of Touch
kewe65;537784 Wrote: i was actually expecting that the touch device act as a controller like the duet's, just with a larger screen. so, i'm as lightly puzzled as the reviewer - or did i and the reviewer miss that? i guess i could get a 30 foot coax cable and run it around the room and to the couch... Well the touch is not portable like the controller, the face is fixed to the base and outlets. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77610 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
Why why why after all the complaints with the Duet and static IPs would Logitech even think of not providing a simple menu item for this on the Touch? What is the big deal about including this simple feature that has always existed on the SB3 and earlier models? What possible reason could there be? -- upstatemike 6x SliMP3, 1x SB1, 2x SB2, 10x SB3, 2x SBR, 4x SBC, 1x Boom upstatemike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
I believe this is the correct bug, which currently has 37 VOTES! (Sadly, it's been around since March of 2008, and it's listed as NEW and UNASSIGNED, with Target Milestone of Future!) I suggest we continue to vote for it, and continue to raise the issue on this forum - maybe it will get some attention now the Touch is released. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7502 -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Bruce B;536429 Wrote: Studios have been taking the DSD data stream from SACD's for years. The issue of what is allowable cannot be determined by reference to the number of studios which may or may not be engaged in similar behavior. Just because many cars in the city are going 80 mph and not getting a speeding ticket doesn't mean these cars are not violating the vehicle code. Further, apparently Puget Sound Studios IS the ONLY studio in the civilized world that engages in the conduct at issue here. If anyone knows of another studio that is engaged in the same activity, please let us know. Definitions: Studio - a for profit commerical enterprise that openly acknowledges this type of work. Civilized world - Any country with a democratic government and an independent judiciary that is a signatory to a treaty with the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) and where Sony is doing business. (That leaves out countries like China and Russia, who may give lip service to intellectual property rights but don't consistently enforce them.) Bruce B;536429 Wrote: we just capture the DSD data stream and do SRC using SARACON. In other words the DSD data stream is passed into a computer where the sample rate conversion (SRC) is done inside a computer program (SARACON). This is exactly what is not allowed by Sony's license if the digital data stream derived from an SACD is unencrypted DSD or PCM of better fidelity than 24 bit/44.1 kHz. Here is the FAQ from Oppo, a leading audiophile component manufacturer: Q: Why is there no audio output from the coaxial or optical digital audio port when I play DVD-Audio or SACD discs? A: The copyright protection feature of the DVD-Audio and Super Audio CD (SACD) disc format prohibits unprotected digital audio output. Since the coaxial or optical digital audio output has no copy-protection ability (i.e. pure audio stream without encryption and authentication), audio from DVD-Audio or SACD cannot be output via these interfaces. To enjoy high resolution digital audio from DVD-Audio or SACD discs, please use the 5.1-channel analogue audio output. If your A/V receiver supports HDMI 1.1 (or above) digital audio, you may also use the HDMI port, which has the required copyright protection mechanism (HDCP). http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd_support.asp#B12 In addition to losing money from lost sales of SACD players, Sony also loses money if fewer SACDs are manufactured at its facilities (the only place where SACDs can be pressed). http://www.sa-cd.net/shownews.php?news=6 -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Bruce B;536429 Wrote: Studios have been taking the DSD data stream from SACD's for years. The issue of what is allowable cannot be determined by reference to the number of studios which may or may not be engaged in similar behavior. Just because many cars in the city are going 80 mph and not getting a speeding ticket doesn't mean these cars are not violating the vehicle code. Further, apparently Puget Sound Studios IS the ONLY studio in the civilized world that engages in the conduct at issue here. If anyone knows of another studio that is engaged in the same activity, please let us know. Definitions: Studio - a for profit commerical enterprise that openly acknowledges this type of work. Civilized world - Any country with a democratic government and an independent judiciary that is a signatory to a treaty with the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) and where Sony is doing business. (That leaves out countries like China and Russia, who may give lip service to intellectual property rights but don't consistently enforce them.) Bruce B;536429 Wrote: we just capture the DSD data stream and do SRC using SARACON. In other words the DSD data stream is passed into a computer where the sample rate conversion (SRC) is done inside a computer program (SARACON). This is exactly what is not allowed by Sony's license if the digital data stream derived from an SACD is unencrypted DSD or PCM of better fidelity than 24 bit/44.1 kHz. Here is the FAQ from Oppo, a leading audiophile component manufacturer: Q: Why is there no audio output from the coaxial or optical digital audio port when I play DVD-Audio or SACD discs? A: The copyright protection feature of the DVD-Audio and Super Audio CD (SACD) disc format prohibits unprotected digital audio output. Since the coaxial or optical digital audio output has no copy-protection ability (i.e. pure audio stream without encryption and authentication), audio from DVD-Audio or SACD cannot be output via these interfaces. To enjoy high resolution digital audio from DVD-Audio or SACD discs, please use the 5.1-channel analogue audio output. If your A/V receiver supports HDMI 1.1 (or above) digital audio, you may also use the HDMI port, which has the required copyright protection mechanism (HDCP). http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd_support.asp#B12 In addition to losing money from lost sales of SACD players, Sony also loses money if fewer SACDs are manufactured at its facilities (the only place where SACDs can be pressed). http://www.sa-cd.net/shownews.php?news=6 -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
