Re: please advice

[Alan B]

If you mean that the worksheet should appear as an empty page with no
gridlines and any tabs should look that way too, then...

1. Use the Tools>Options... menu
2. Expand the OpenOffice Calc branch
3. Select the "View" options
4. Untick the "Grid lines" item
5. Click "OK"

This change applies to every worksheet and every tab of every worksheet.



On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 8:24 AM Wade Smart  wrote:

> Format > Cells > Border  - you can remove them or change them.
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> On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 5:44 AM ΣΤΕΛΙΟΣ ΚΡΟΥΣΤΑΛΛΗΣ 
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> >
> > in the accounting sheets between the cells there are dotted lines, how
> > do I remove them?
> > thank you in advance for your
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Re: please advice

[Wade Smart]

Format > Cells > Border  - you can remove them or change them.

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> in the accounting sheets between the cells there are dotted lines, how
> do I remove them?
> thank you in advance for your
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Re: PLEASE Help. I cannot open an Open Office file saved to my desktop.

[PCS]

My apologies if I am stating the obvious, but maybe it can be opened by another 
application. If you are using a Macintosh, right-click on the OO document and 
select "Open With” and try one of the non-default apps in the list. I have 
found that you can usually get usable text if you open an inaccessible document 
with TextEdit, though you may have to strip out a lot of formatting characters 
to make it easily readable, then copy it to and reformat it in a new WP 
document. If you are using Windows I assume it must have some equivalent of the 
Mac’s “Open With”.

PCS


> On 25 Apr 2022, at 3:11 pm, george bornyek  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Since having computers Open Office is all that I use.  This malfunction has 
> never happened before.  What went wrong?
> 
> I crafted a very special letter to Elon Musk on Open Office, saved it and 
> there is nothing that I can do to open it.
> 
> I create my email and other memos etc on Open Office then copy-paste it to 
> where I will use it.
> 
> Please help me.
> 
> 6192237737 born...@att.net
> 
> George Bornyek
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PLEASE Help. I cannot open an Open Office file saved to my desktop.

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 05:11:15 + (UTC)
george bornyek  wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> Since having computers Open Office is all that I use.  This malfunction has 
> never happened before.  What went wrong?
> I crafted a very special letter to Elon Musk on Open Office, saved it and 
> there is nothing that I can do to open it.
> I create my email and other memos etc on Open Office then copy-paste it to 
> where I will use it.
> Please help me.
> 6192237737     born...@att.net
> George Bornyek
> 
> 

We need to know more about what happens when you attempt to open it.  What 
error message do you get?

 

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Re: PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:14:06 -0400
David Cobble  wrote:

> DEAR OPEN-OFFICE,
> 
> THE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING FEATURES ON YOUR SOFTWARE *IS A NIGHTMARE FOR
> WRITERS!*
> 
> WE DO NOT NEED IT.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PLATFORM MAKING FORMATTING
> DECISIONS FOR US.
> 
> I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR LOTS OF WRITERS.
> 
> YOUR "DROP CAP" FEATURE KEEPS ASSERTING ITSELF INTO MY WRITING.  WHY WOULD
> YOU MAKE SUCH A FEATURE AUTOMATIC?
> 
> *DROP CAPS ARE RARELY USED!  IT IS TOTALLY USELESS TO MAKE THEM
> AUTOMATIC!!!*
> 
> __
> 
> AND WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AUTO CAPITALIZATION A FEATURE?
> 
> *IF I DO NOT CAPITALIZE A LINE OR WORD, IT'S BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT IT
> CAPITALIZED!!!*
> 
> *IT IS EXTREMELY AGGRAVATING TO STOP MY WRITING ALL THE TIME TO CORRECT
> YOUR AUTO FORMATTING. IT INTERFERES WITH RHYTHM AND PRODUCTIVITY AND
> CONSUMES MENTAL ENERGY.*
> 
> *PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTO FORMATTING. WRITERS LIKE TO DO THEIR OWN
> FORMATTING.*

Another "writer" who cannot or does not read any instructions!  

There are many works on formatting long documents in either OpenOffice or 
LibreOffice; the "Writer for Students" reference is relatively brief.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Writer_for_Students

PDF file at at
http://openoffice-uni.org

See the file referenced in this posting for an overview of the use of Styles
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=275320#p275320

This document may be helpful for those writing a book
http://documentation.openoffice.org/whitepapers/

Bruce Byfield's book, Designing with LibreOffice, also covers Apache 
OpenOffice. It focuses on the use of styles and templates, mainly in Writer but 
with some info on Calc, Impress, and Draw. 

A PDF of the book, and/or a zip file of the chapter ODTs, can be downloaded 
free from the book's website. If you prefer, you can buy a printed copy. 
http://designingwithlibreoffice.com

Another work on writing and formatting a book in LibreOffice is
https://frommindtotype.wordpress.com/writer-book/

For Macs, there is much useful information in
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=89283


If you don't like the editor you are using there are many others you can choose.

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Re: PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING

[Fernando Cassia]

If you Google for "automatic capitalization OpenOffice" the first search
result is this:

*How do I stop OpenOffice.org from changing the first letter of a word to
uppercase?*

   1. Select Tools > AutoCorrect Options and then the Options tab.
   2. Near the top of the list, uncheck the [T] box next to "Capitalize
   first letter of every sentence".
   3. Click OK at the bottom of the dialog to apply the change.

Aug 7, 2018
Best
,
FC


On Thu., 12 Aug. 2021, 21:39 David Cobble,  wrote:

> DEAR OPEN-OFFICE,
>
> THE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING FEATURES ON YOUR SOFTWARE *IS A NIGHTMARE FOR
> WRITERS!*
>
> WE DO NOT NEED IT.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PLATFORM MAKING FORMATTING
> DECISIONS FOR US.
>
> I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR LOTS OF WRITERS.
>
> YOUR "DROP CAP" FEATURE KEEPS ASSERTING ITSELF INTO MY WRITING.  WHY WOULD
> YOU MAKE SUCH A FEATURE AUTOMATIC?
>
> *DROP CAPS ARE RARELY USED!  IT IS TOTALLY USELESS TO MAKE THEM
> AUTOMATIC!!!*
>
> __
>
> AND WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AUTO CAPITALIZATION A FEATURE?
>
> *IF I DO NOT CAPITALIZE A LINE OR WORD, IT'S BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT IT
> CAPITALIZED!!!*
>
> *IT IS EXTREMELY AGGRAVATING TO STOP MY WRITING ALL THE TIME TO CORRECT
> YOUR AUTO FORMATTING. IT INTERFERES WITH RHYTHM AND PRODUCTIVITY AND
> CONSUMES MENTAL ENERGY.*
>
> *PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTO FORMATTING. WRITERS LIKE TO DO THEIR OWN
> FORMATTING.*
>
>
>
>
> *.*
>

Re: PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING

[Fernando Cassia]

You seem to have no problems with writing in all caps, that's for sure.

FC

On Thu., 12 Aug. 2021, 21:39 David Cobble,  wrote:

> DEAR OPEN-OFFICE,
>
> THE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING FEATURES ON YOUR SOFTWARE *IS A NIGHTMARE FOR
> WRITERS!*
>
> WE DO NOT NEED IT.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PLATFORM MAKING FORMATTING
> DECISIONS FOR US.
>
> I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR LOTS OF WRITERS.
>
> YOUR "DROP CAP" FEATURE KEEPS ASSERTING ITSELF INTO MY WRITING.  WHY WOULD
> YOU MAKE SUCH A FEATURE AUTOMATIC?
>
> *DROP CAPS ARE RARELY USED!  IT IS TOTALLY USELESS TO MAKE THEM
> AUTOMATIC!!!*
>
> __
>
> AND WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AUTO CAPITALIZATION A FEATURE?
>
> *IF I DO NOT CAPITALIZE A LINE OR WORD, IT'S BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT IT
> CAPITALIZED!!!*
>
> *IT IS EXTREMELY AGGRAVATING TO STOP MY WRITING ALL THE TIME TO CORRECT
> YOUR AUTO FORMATTING. IT INTERFERES WITH RHYTHM AND PRODUCTIVITY AND
> CONSUMES MENTAL ENERGY.*
>
> *PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTO FORMATTING. WRITERS LIKE TO DO THEIR OWN
> FORMATTING.*
>
>
>
>
> *.*
>

Re: Please help- file lost

[Lucetta]

I have also had this problem, this year was the first time ever in 29 years w/ 
computers. Was working w/ someone  else in a rush working from home w/ out her 
office equipment. 

You are not alone!
Can you look through all the other places where you might have saved an earlier 
version?

I now save documents and other important files in a variety of places going 
along. Documents folder, desktop, specifically named folder for that type of 
file, project folder etc. Messy but necessary for the way I work. 

You can also set up a backup to an external hard drive/ rocket stick or dongle 
etc so as to save elsewhere than your computer incase of hard drive problems. 

Every time I save a document it gets a slightly different name. As an 
example...  name, date, v 1,2 etc. V being version for that date. Messy but 
reliable. 

You may have a slightly earlier version somewhere which would avoid you having 
to redo everything. Can you do a general search w/ slightly different names?

You can also email versions to yourself. You will then have the file in your 
email as sent & received mail boxes. Do this at the end of the day. 

Good luck! 
We have all been there & it is a hard learned lesson. Everyone has this story 
too so don’t feel to bad just deal with it for the future. 

Lucetta



> On Dec 7, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> See: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=84056
> 
> Very few chances to recover anything. This is a longstanding issue in AOO.
> 
> Bware, you're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies.
> 
> Hagar
> 
>> Le 07/12/2020 à 18:59, Jessica moloney a écrit :
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am praying you can help me. My computer shut down on its own last night 
>> and when I reopened open office, the auto recovery was unable to recover a 
>> very important document that I was working on and despite me saving it 
>> numerous times throughout my working on it, the entire thing is now gone. 
>> Please, I am so desperate to recover this, if someone can please help me, I 
>> would greatly appreciate it.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Jessica
>> 631-220-2620
>> 
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Re: Please help- file lost

[Hagar Delest]

Hi,

See: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=84056

Very few chances to recover anything. This is a longstanding issue in AOO.

Bware, you're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies.

Hagar

Le 07/12/2020 à 18:59, Jessica moloney a écrit :

Hello,

I am praying you can help me. My computer shut down on its own last night and 
when I reopened open office, the auto recovery was unable to recover a very 
important document that I was working on and despite me saving it numerous 
times throughout my working on it, the entire thing is now gone. Please, I am 
so desperate to recover this, if someone can please help me, I would greatly 
appreciate it.

Thank you,
Jessica
631-220-2620

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Re: Please Could you Advise How I can solve this PLEASE

[Alan B]

Dave,

You identify parts as missing, how are you able to say this is so?

If the document opens without errors or warnings so you are able to see
"parts are missing" then the document has downloaded completely.

The missing parts may be references inside the document to parts that are
located outside the document and inaccessible to you. It is also possible
parts of the document are set to hidden and need to be unhidden to be
visible. The last possibility I can think of is change tracking. Visibility
of comments, changes and revision marks can be set in various ways so it
either looks like a "clean" document with no editing or commenting having
been done or be set to show all or a selected combination of comments,
edits, and revision marks.

The structure of a Word document file is such that if every bit of the file
does not download then Word or OpenOffice would see it as corrupted and
complain when attempting to open it. The design of file download programs
is such that, with rare exceptions, the file downloads completely and
successfully. And if it doesn't download successfully, it is very unlikely
to be recognized as a document file by the computer.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 5:27 AM David Millington 
wrote:

> When I receive a Word document it does not download completely,
> Parts are are missing
> I have an urgent document to read and have this problem.
> Ewoud Greatly appreciate your help
> My sincere thanks
> Dave
> ><>
>
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>
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Re: Please Could you Advise How I can solve this PLEASE

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 04/11/2020 11:19, David Millington wrote:

When I receive a Word document it does not download completely,
Parts are are missing



What doe you mean with downloading. Is it downloading from a Website, from

Google Drive or Dropbox or saving or opening it from a mail attachment?

Downloading is not a not part of OpenOffice functionality, but rather 
from the

Operating System.



I have an urgent document to read and have this problem.



If you receive the document via email, ask the sender to send it in PDF 
format.




Ewoud Greatly appreciate your help
My sincere thanks
Dave

<>

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Re: Please Could you Advise How I can solve this PLEASE

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:19:48 +
David Millington  wrote:

> When I receive a Word document it does not download completely,
> Parts are are missing
> I have an urgent document to read and have this problem.
> Ewoud Greatly appreciate your help 
> My sincere thanks
> Dave
> ><>

If your immediate need is to read the document, try some other editor, such as 
AbiWord or LibreOffice.  

Without hands on of the document we cannot make any analysis of the problem or 
its cause, and such analysis may take some time.

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Re: please help

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 15/10/2020 20:55, Edward Miller wrote:

I created a document in Open Office.  Then I cut and pasted a Zoom website 
(info for a meeting) into the document and saved it.  However, I cannot get to 
the website from the document.  Why not?



Because, you haven't set the *AutoCorrect* option to "*URL Recognition*" 
or used the *Insert Link* option.

Both should work.
By the way you can't *Cut and Paste* a website only *Copy and Paste* works.

Re: please help

[Robin Lord]

Maybe you saved the file as jpg or other image image

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, at 22:15, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> 
> Am 15.10.20 um 20:55 schrieb Edward Miller:
> > I created a document in Open Office.  Then I cut and pasted a Zoom website 
> > (info for a meeting) into the document and saved it.  However, I cannot get 
> > to the website from the document.  Why not?
> 
> Maybe this helps:
> 
> The standard (default) behavior for activating hyperlinks within OOo is 
> to use Ctrl+click. This behavior can be changed in *Tools > Options > 
> OpenOffice.org > Security > Options*, by deselecting the option 
> *Ctrl-click* required to follow hyperlinks. If clicking in your links 
> activates them, check that page to see if the option has been deselected.
> 
> From:
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Hyperlinks
> 
>

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Re: please help

[Peter Kovacs]

Am 15.10.20 um 20:55 schrieb Edward Miller:

I created a document in Open Office.  Then I cut and pasted a Zoom website 
(info for a meeting) into the document and saved it.  However, I cannot get to 
the website from the document.  Why not?


Maybe this helps:

The standard (default) behavior for activating hyperlinks within OOo is 
to use Ctrl+click. This behavior can be changed in *Tools > Options > 
OpenOffice.org > Security > Options*, by deselecting the option 
*Ctrl-click* required to follow hyperlinks. If clicking in your links 
activates them, check that page to see if the option has been deselected.


From:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Hyperlinks

Re: Please, information step by step.

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 08/10/2020 00:45, Jessica Kraft wrote:

Hi There.

I have years that I use the OpenOffice, for writing and images.


  But, I have some questions for your technical support or developers.

  1) How to format the FONT name for all documents, and the mode to save.



Step 1. Open this document 
.


Step 2. Read the document.

Step 3. Apply all what you have learned.




  (for example ARIAL, and save in format as microsoftword 97\2000\XP(.doc)



Step 999. Always save in ods format and only save a copy in any other 
format if you

need to share with someone that haven't OpenOffice.




  2) How to get the list on ``recent documents``, but the last month works 
saved? No only 10 last documents.



Use the search function in MS Windows





Please, sent me step by step to reorganize my pages; on 
j_kraft...@hotmail.com

j_kraft...@hotmail.com

Thank you so much.


Kraft

Re: Please help!

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 07:02:54 +0200
Piet Fox  wrote:

> Every time I cut and paste or download and open a word document in
> OpenOffice Writer there are shadowed bars at the end of some of the
> sentences. I am able to delete it manually, but it is very time consuming
> with a whole document. What can I do to prevent it? See example:
> 

Use /Edit Paste Special, and choose "Unformatted text" from the popup. These 
are characters with bit 7 of a byte set.

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RE: please help, my whole chapter is unreadable after update

[Geoffrey Hartwell]

Is it possible you have a black highlight or background?  Is it worth setting 
the text colour to white or yellow?

With kind regards, 
Geoffrey Hartwell
Eur Ing Professor Geoffrey M. Beresford Hartwell CEng
FIMechE FIET SenMIEEE(USA) FCIArb(retired) FICArb(India)
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Consulting Engineer  and FIDIC Accredited Adjudicator


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To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: please help, my whole chapter is unreadable after update


If you want me to test load your document, send a copy to my home email address 
(assuming there is nothing sensitive) and I can take a peek in case it is just 
something with your configuration that went bad. I have never seen this so 

The fact that the doc loads is a good sign. 

A quick test (of interest), is to copy some of those black lines where you 
expect words to be and paste them into a regular text editor (on windows, 
notepad is a common choice). This should tell you if it is just a font problem 
(or similar). 

Best of luck.

Andrew

On Friday, June 12, 2020 06:54 EDT, Anne Scherliess  
wrote:
 Dear open office team, my openoffice just updated itself to 4.1.6 and after 
this i wanted to continue writing my book and the entire chapter just shows 
black lines and no words whatsoever. I am devastated about this, what can I do 
to resurrect my work?
Please please help me, thankyou,
Anne Scherliess

http://www.theaterathome.de

https://www.schauspielervideos.de/fullprofile/schauspielerin-anne-scherliess.html
 
https://www.schauspielervideos.de/fullprofile/schauspielerin-anne-scherliess.html

https://www.castforward.de/members/profile/anne-scherliess

http://www.filmmakers.de/anne-scherliess 
http://https//www.filmmakers.de/anne-scherliess

https://www.spotlight.com/8016-8979-3087 http://www.spotlight.com/8016-8979-3087

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Re: please help, my whole chapter is unreadable after update

[Andrew Pitonyak]

If you want me to test load your document, send a copy to my home email address 
(assuming there is nothing sensitive) and I can take a peek in case it is just 
something with your configuration that went bad. I have never seen this so 

The fact that the doc loads is a good sign. 

A quick test (of interest), is to copy some of those black lines where you 
expect words to be and paste them into a regular text editor (on windows, 
notepad is a common choice). This should tell you if it is just a font problem 
(or similar). 

Best of luck.

Andrew

On Friday, June 12, 2020 06:54 EDT, Anne Scherliess  
wrote:
 Dear open office team, my openoffice just updated itself to 4.1.6 and after 
this i wanted to continue writing my book and the entire chapter just shows 
black lines and no words whatsoever. I am devastated about this, what can I do 
to resurrect my work?
Please please help me, thankyou,
Anne Scherliess

http://www.theaterathome.de

https://www.schauspielervideos.de/fullprofile/schauspielerin-anne-scherliess.html
 
https://www.schauspielervideos.de/fullprofile/schauspielerin-anne-scherliess.html

https://www.castforward.de/members/profile/anne-scherliess

http://www.filmmakers.de/anne-scherliess 
http://https//www.filmmakers.de/anne-scherliess

https://www.spotlight.com/8016-8979-3087 http://www.spotlight.com/8016-8979-3087

http://www.anne-scherliess.com


 

Re: PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME.

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Re: Please help

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 13:38 05/04/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:
> o Complete suggestions are not provided: merely partial ones as far as 
> they are common.


I don't understand what you mean by this. Complete words are offered, even 
rare ones if they've been harvested from the user's documents.


If the questioner's "60minutePKG" and "60minutemassage" had both been 
harvested (I've excised the spaces to allow the effect to show), typing "60m" 
would show what is common between the possibilities, so just
"60minute", not either of the complete texts. S/he said that individual 
suggestions appeared, which is indeed what happens in a spreadsheet.


Display of what's in common has never been my experience. For example, 
I have 'accelerating' and 'acceleration' in my list, and as soon as I 
type 'acc' it offers 'accelerating', not just 'accelerati'. I've often 
wished it would display just what's in common. (I'm actually using LO 
at the moment but my recollection is that it's the same in AOO.)


- Robert


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Re: Please help

[Brian Barker]

At 13:38 05/04/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:
o Complete suggestions are not provided: merely partial ones as far 
as they are common.


I don't understand what you mean by this. Complete words are 
offered, even rare ones if they've been harvested from the user's documents.


If the questioner's "60minutePKG" and "60minutemassage" had both been 
harvested (I've excised the spaces to allow the effect to show), 
typing "60m" would show what is common between the possibilities, so just
"60minute", not either of the complete texts. S/he said that 
individual suggestions appeared, which is indeed what happens in a spreadsheet.



o The user would not be able to tab through suggestions, as s/he describes.


I assumed she (they) meant control-tabbing.


Ah: there is a simple reason I didn't think of that: I didn't know that worked!

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Re: Please help

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 12:58 05/04/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 11:03 05/04/2020 -0400, Kellie English wrote:
> > I cannot for the life of me figure out how to delete unwanted auto fill 
> > suggestions. If I want to type '60 minute massage', it comes up even 
> > after I type "60", which is great, but now i have all of these other 
> > tabbed
> > suggestions that I have to tab through before I can get to "60 minute 
> > massage" based on other entries I have to make for other 60 minute 
> > services. Is there any way I can sort through or even rearrange the 
> > order
> > of such automated fill ins? Right now, when I type "60" here is the 
> > order of auto fill suggestions:

> > 60 HS
> > 60/EVT
> > 60 minute PKG
> > 60min/AO
> > (I now have to tab through all of these to finally get to ;)
> > 60 minute massage
> > Which is the main default of what I usually need. Please help! I would 
> > like to rearrange the 60 minute massage to pop up first every time, or 
> > to just delete ALL auto fills and then start fresh?
> 
> I'm having to guess that you are talking about entering data into a 
> spreadsheet document, not a word processor one. Is that so?


I assumed that the message was about a word-processing document. If so, if 
you go to Tools > AutoCorrect > AutoCorrect Options there's a 'Word 
Completion' tab that seems to give control over what word completion is 
done.


I had wondered that but ruled it out, for various reasons:
o The default minimum word length is 10, so it is unlikely that entries as 
short as some of the questioner's examples would be harvested.


My minimum word length is 8, I don't remember setting it to that. 
Maybe hers was somehow set to a small value? Maybe unlikely.



o Only single word entries are harvested.


Good point.

o Complete suggestions are not provided: merely partial ones as far as they 
are common.


I don't understand what you mean by this. Complete words are offered, 
even rare ones if they've been harvested from the user's documents.



o The user would not be able to tab through suggestions, as s/he describes.


I assumed she (they) meant control-tabbing.

- Robert

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Re: Please help

[Brian Barker]

At 12:58 05/04/2020 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:

At 11:03 05/04/2020 -0400, Kellie English wrote:
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to delete unwanted auto 
fill suggestions. If I want to type '60 minute massage', it comes 
up even after I type "60", which is great, but now i have all of 
these other tabbed
suggestions that I have to tab through before I can get to "60 
minute massage" based on other entries I have to make for other 60 
minute services. Is there any way I can sort through or even 
rearrange the order
of such automated fill ins? Right now, when I type "60" here is 
the order of auto fill suggestions:

60 HS
60/EVT
60 minute PKG
60min/AO
(I now have to tab through all of these to finally get to ;)
60 minute massage
Which is the main default of what I usually need. Please help! I 
would like to rearrange the 60 minute massage to pop up first 
every time, or to just delete ALL auto fills and then start fresh?


I'm having to guess that you are talking about entering data into a 
spreadsheet document, not a word processor one. Is that so?


I assumed that the message was about a word-processing document. If 
so, if you go to Tools > AutoCorrect > AutoCorrect Options there's a 
'Word Completion' tab that seems to give control over what word 
completion is done.


I had wondered that but ruled it out, for various reasons:
o The default minimum word length is 10, so it is unlikely that 
entries as short as some of the questioner's examples would be harvested.

o Only single word entries are harvested.
o Complete suggestions are not provided: merely partial ones as far 
as they are common.

o The user would not be able to tab through suggestions, as s/he describes.

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Re: Please help

[Robert Funnell]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Brian Barker wrote:


At 11:03 05/04/2020 -0400, Kellie English wrote:
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to delete unwanted auto fill 
suggestions. If I want to type '60 minute massage', it comes up even after 
I type "60", which is great, but now i have all of these other tabbed
suggestions that I have to tab through before I can get to "60 minute 
massage" based on other entries I have to make for other 60 minute 
services. Is there any way I can sort through or even rearrange the order
of such automated fill ins? Right now, when I type "60" here is the order 
of auto fill suggestions:

60 HS
60/EVT
60 minute PKG
60min/AO
(I now have to tab through all of these to finally get to ;)
60 minute massage
Which is the main default of what I usually need. Please help! I would like 
to rearrange the 60 minute massage to pop up first every time, or to just 
delete ALL auto fills and then start fresh?


I'm having to guess that you are talking about entering data into a 
spreadsheet document, not a word processor one. Is that so?


I assumed that the message was about a word-processing document. If 
so, if you go to Tools > AutoCorrect > AutoCorrect Options there's a 
'Word Completion' tab that seems to give control over what word 
completion is done.


Also, if you type 1 or 2 more characters after '60', the suggestions 
offered will be refined.


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Re: Please help

[Brian Barker]

At 11:03 05/04/2020 -0400, Kellie English wrote:
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to delete unwanted auto 
fill suggestions. If I want to type '60 minute massage', it comes up 
even after I type "60", which is great, but now i have all of these 
other tabbed
suggestions that I have to tab through before I can get to "60 
minute massage" based on other entries I have to make for other 60 
minute services. Is there any way I can sort through or even 
rearrange the order
of such automated fill ins? Right now, when I type "60" here is the 
order of auto fill suggestions:

60 HS
60/EVT
60 minute PKG
60min/AO
(I now have to tab through all of these to finally get to ;)
60 minute massage
Which is the main default of what I usually need. Please help! I 
would like to rearrange the 60 minute massage to pop up first every 
time, or to just delete ALL auto fills and then start fresh?


I'm having to guess that you are talking about entering data into a 
spreadsheet document, not a word processor one. Is that so?


This facility offers possible entries as you type, taken from 
existing entries in other rows in the same column. No, I don't see 
any way to adjust the order of the suggestions. But yes, there is 
certainly a way to suppress this facility: just go to Tools | Cell 
Content > | AutoInput and toggle it off there.


If you find yourself - as it seems - often entering similar entries 
in a spreadsheet column, you may wish to consider using Data Validity.
o Select a cell range - perhaps all or most of a column - and go to 
Data | Validity... .

o On the Criteria tab, for Allow, select List.
o Enter your repertoire of allowable values in the Entries box.
o Select other options as desired.

Now when you move to a cell in the range to enter a value, you will 
see a down-arrow to its right. Click that with the mouse and select 
the particular entry you need. Note that this technique can avoid 
entering slight misspellings or variations that may create errors in 
your spreadsheet but can be quite difficult to spot.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: please help

[Steve C]

Yeah, probably unnecessary, but also good on you for follow-up ‘mea culpa’.

Still, very entertaining, nevertheless... I smiled a lot, and I’m sure many 
others, did too..!

Illegitimi non carborundum..

Best Regards, Steve

> On 11 Oct 2019, at 11:33, Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:
> 
> Just want to apologise for not being able to resist making fun of some
> parts of the OP's post. I'm sorry, it was very unnecessary.
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Johnny Rosenberg
> 
> 
> Den tors 10 okt. 2019 kl 19:10 skrev Johnny Rosenberg <
> gurus.knu...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> Den tors 10 okt. 2019 kl 14:47 skrev Dave Bito'o'wu Pratt <
>> nostradumbas...@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> This will be the fourth try at attempting to contact you. You don't make
>>> it
>>> easy. The following is my original message.
>>> 
>> 
>> What was the other three attempts? Writing to this list or what?
>> And who are you referring to when you say ”you”? There is no Apache
>> OpenOffice support. This list is just users helping other users. I'm one of
>> those users (I'm actually an ex user, but that's hopefully not very
>> important) and some times I ask questions and some times I answer
>> questions, just like most people on the list.
>> 
>> 
>>> I used to use Word up until about 10 years ago when somebody suggested
>>> Open
>>> Office to me. I much prefer this to Word.
>> 
>> 
>> I prefer a hex editor over Word…
>> 
>> 
>>> I do have one issue though. I
>>> used Excel a lot. They had a function where I could add certain lines to a
>>> total. On your .ods file, I can find that function.
>> 
>> 
>> You can? That's great. Doesn't the mean that the problem is solved? I just
>> wonder how you could find it in the ods file. Shouldn't you rather look in
>> the Apache OpenOffice Calc application?
>> 
>> 
>>> I don't have Word or
>>> Excel on my PC now.
>> 
>> 
>> Lucky guy. I have both on my job computer and I hate both.
>> 
>> I miss that function.
>> 
>> 
>> You said you could find it (in your ods file), or did you mean something
>> else? Like what?
>> 
>> 
>>> I have Open Office version 4.1.6.
>>> Does that have the function I want? I've checked all the options at the
>>> top
>>> and can't find that function. Am I just missing seeing it? Please help
>>> because I miss that function. Thank you.
>>> 
>> 
>> Okay, jokes aside, can you please better describe what that ”function”
>> actually did? I don't really understand what ”add certain lines to a total”
>> means. Certain lines? To a total? How? Can you give a simple example? What
>> is the function called in Excel?
>> 
>> I'm sure that if the function doesn't exist in Calc, it's possible to make
>> one with a macro, but I can't tell how complicated that would be unless I
>> have more information.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Johnny Rosenberg
>> 

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Re: please help

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Just want to apologise for not being able to resist making fun of some
parts of the OP's post. I'm sorry, it was very unnecessary.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


Den tors 10 okt. 2019 kl 19:10 skrev Johnny Rosenberg <
gurus.knu...@gmail.com>:

> Den tors 10 okt. 2019 kl 14:47 skrev Dave Bito'o'wu Pratt <
> nostradumbas...@gmail.com>:
>
>> This will be the fourth try at attempting to contact you. You don't make
>> it
>> easy. The following is my original message.
>>
>
> What was the other three attempts? Writing to this list or what?
> And who are you referring to when you say ”you”? There is no Apache
> OpenOffice support. This list is just users helping other users. I'm one of
> those users (I'm actually an ex user, but that's hopefully not very
> important) and some times I ask questions and some times I answer
> questions, just like most people on the list.
>
>
>> I used to use Word up until about 10 years ago when somebody suggested
>> Open
>> Office to me. I much prefer this to Word.
>
>
> I prefer a hex editor over Word…
>
>
>> I do have one issue though. I
>> used Excel a lot. They had a function where I could add certain lines to a
>> total. On your .ods file, I can find that function.
>
>
> You can? That's great. Doesn't the mean that the problem is solved? I just
> wonder how you could find it in the ods file. Shouldn't you rather look in
> the Apache OpenOffice Calc application?
>
>
>> I don't have Word or
>> Excel on my PC now.
>
>
> Lucky guy. I have both on my job computer and I hate both.
>
> I miss that function.
>
>
> You said you could find it (in your ods file), or did you mean something
> else? Like what?
>
>
>> I have Open Office version 4.1.6.
>> Does that have the function I want? I've checked all the options at the
>> top
>> and can't find that function. Am I just missing seeing it? Please help
>> because I miss that function. Thank you.
>>
>
> Okay, jokes aside, can you please better describe what that ”function”
> actually did? I don't really understand what ”add certain lines to a total”
> means. Certain lines? To a total? How? Can you give a simple example? What
> is the function called in Excel?
>
> I'm sure that if the function doesn't exist in Calc, it's possible to make
> one with a macro, but I can't tell how complicated that would be unless I
> have more information.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>

Re: please help

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Den tors 10 okt. 2019 kl 14:47 skrev Dave Bito'o'wu Pratt <
nostradumbas...@gmail.com>:

> This will be the fourth try at attempting to contact you. You don't make it
> easy. The following is my original message.
>

What was the other three attempts? Writing to this list or what?
And who are you referring to when you say ”you”? There is no Apache
OpenOffice support. This list is just users helping other users. I'm one of
those users (I'm actually an ex user, but that's hopefully not very
important) and some times I ask questions and some times I answer
questions, just like most people on the list.


> I used to use Word up until about 10 years ago when somebody suggested Open
> Office to me. I much prefer this to Word.


I prefer a hex editor over Word…


> I do have one issue though. I
> used Excel a lot. They had a function where I could add certain lines to a
> total. On your .ods file, I can find that function.


You can? That's great. Doesn't the mean that the problem is solved? I just
wonder how you could find it in the ods file. Shouldn't you rather look in
the Apache OpenOffice Calc application?


> I don't have Word or
> Excel on my PC now.


Lucky guy. I have both on my job computer and I hate both.

I miss that function.


You said you could find it (in your ods file), or did you mean something
else? Like what?


> I have Open Office version 4.1.6.
> Does that have the function I want? I've checked all the options at the top
> and can't find that function. Am I just missing seeing it? Please help
> because I miss that function. Thank you.
>

Okay, jokes aside, can you please better describe what that ”function”
actually did? I don't really understand what ”add certain lines to a total”
means. Certain lines? To a total? How? Can you give a simple example? What
is the function called in Excel?

I'm sure that if the function doesn't exist in Calc, it's possible to make
one with a macro, but I can't tell how complicated that would be unless I
have more information.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg

Re: please help

[DaveB]

My responses are given in-line with your original message.

 Original Message 
From: Dave Bito'o'wu Pratt [mailto:nostradumbas...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019, 12:19 UTC
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: please help

> This will be the fourth try at attempting to contact you. You don't make it
> easy.

Not sure how much easier it could be made. Go to the home page of the
website; http://www.openoffice.org/ and right there in the middle of the
page there is a link that reads:
"I need help with my OpenOffice. Help is at hand whenever you need it."

> The following is my original message.
> I used to use Word up until about 10 years ago when somebody suggested Open
> Office to me. I much prefer this to Word. I do have one issue though. I
> used Excel a lot. They had a function where I could add certain lines to a
> total. On your .ods file, I can find that function. I don't have Word or
> Excel on my PC now. I miss that function. I have Open Office version 4.1.6.
> Does that have the function I want? I've checked all the options at the top
> and can't find that function. Am I just missing seeing it? Please help
> because I miss that function. Thank you.

You say "I can find that function.", but it sounds like you mean that
you cannot find the equivalent function in Calc.

Can you recall what the function might be called in Excel? A function to
"add certain lines to a total" doesn't give us much to go on, so can you
provide a more detailed description of how the function worked, or
outline the steps you took when using that function?

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Re: Please recover my document soon

[Hagar Delest]

Reply forwarded to OP (not subscribed to the list).

Hagar

Le 28/09/2018 à 01:38, David Robley a écrit :

Please see https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=84056

Also consider installing and using the Timed Backup extension. 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=406045


On 28/09/18 02:53, Jenny wrote:

Hello!
I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer document showed 
me all # characters & before the document is opened, one pop up ASCII Filter 
Options message appears.
How to fix the problem soon?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,Jenny




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Re: Please recover my document soon

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 28/9/18 4:55 am, Jenny wrote:

  Is there a way to recover my document? Thanks.


Depend on your Options set under the Tools menu.
Check your settings under Load/save
When you have set the option you find the directory of the backups
under OpenOffice -> Paths


 On Friday, 28 September 2018, 2:53:02 AM GMT+8, Andrea  
wrote:
  
  Am 27.09.2018 um 20:40 schrieb Geoffrey Hartwell:

Can regular backup be automated?

That would be dangerous - if your document has been corrupted and the
automated backup works properly - the backup is unusable as well ...



-Original Message-
From: Maurice Howe [mailto:mauriceh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 September 2018 19:27
To: Apache OpenOffice ; jc295...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Please recover my document soon

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make frequent backup copies.  That's the REAL answer to 
your question.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jenny  wrote:


Hello!
I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer
document showed me all # characters & before the document is opened,
one pop up ASCII Filter Options message appears.
How to fix the problem soon?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,Jenny



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Re: Please recover my document soon

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 28/9/18 4:40 am, Geoffrey Hartwell wrote:

Can regular backup be automated?

I fact there are options under Tools -> Options -> Load/save
There you set the Auto Recovery time interval and to create Backups,
backups are created when you close your document always allow some
time to finish this process before you switch of your system.


-Original Message-
From: Maurice Howe [mailto:mauriceh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 September 2018 19:27
To: Apache OpenOffice ; jc295...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Please recover my document soon

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make frequent backup copies.  That's the REAL answer to 
your question.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jenny  wrote:


Hello!
I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer
document showed me all # characters & before the document is opened,
one pop up ASCII Filter Options message appears.
How to fix the problem soon?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,Jenny



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Re: Please recover my document soon

[David Robley]

Please see https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=84056

Also consider installing and using the Timed Backup extension. 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=406045



On 28/09/18 02:53, Jenny wrote:

Hello!
I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer document showed 
me all # characters & before the document is opened, one pop up ASCII Filter 
Options message appears.
How to fix the problem soon?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,Jenny




Cheers
--
David Robley

Real men write self-modifying code.
 

Re: Please recover my document soon

[Jenny]

 Is there a way to recover my document? Thanks.

On Friday, 28 September 2018, 2:53:02 AM GMT+8, Andrea  
wrote:  
 
 Am 27.09.2018 um 20:40 schrieb Geoffrey Hartwell:
> Can regular backup be automated?

That would be dangerous - if your document has been corrupted and the 
automated backup works properly - the backup is unusable as well ...


> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Maurice Howe [mailto:mauriceh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 27 September 2018 19:27
> To: Apache OpenOffice ; jc295...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Please recover my document soon
> 
> ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make frequent backup copies.  That's the REAL answer 
> to your question.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jenny  wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>> I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer
>> document showed me all # characters & before the document is opened,
>> one pop up ASCII Filter Options message appears.
>> How to fix the problem soon?
>> Thank you.
>> Yours sincerely,Jenny
>>
> 
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Re: Please recover my document soon

[Andrea]

Am 27.09.2018 um 20:40 schrieb Geoffrey Hartwell:

Can regular backup be automated?


That would be dangerous - if your document has been corrupted and the 
automated backup works properly - the backup is unusable as well ...





-Original Message-
From: Maurice Howe [mailto:mauriceh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 27 September 2018 19:27
To: Apache OpenOffice ; jc295...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Please recover my document soon

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make frequent backup copies.  That's the REAL answer to 
your question.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jenny  wrote:


Hello!
I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer
document showed me all # characters & before the document is opened,
one pop up ASCII Filter Options message appears.
How to fix the problem soon?
Thank you.
Yours sincerely,Jenny




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RE: Please recover my document soon

[Geoffrey Hartwell]

Can regular backup be automated?

-Original Message-
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Sent: 27 September 2018 19:27
To: Apache OpenOffice ; jc295...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Please recover my document soon

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make frequent backup copies.  That's the REAL answer to 
your question.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jenny  wrote:

> Hello!
> I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer 
> document showed me all # characters & before the document is opened, 
> one pop up ASCII Filter Options message appears.
> How to fix the problem soon?
> Thank you.
> Yours sincerely,Jenny
>


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Re: Please recover my document soon

[Maurice Howe]

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make frequent backup copies.  That's the REAL answer
to your question.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM Jenny  wrote:

> Hello!
> I did not turn off my laptop suddenly or etc but one of my writer document
> showed me all # characters & before the document is opened, one pop up
> ASCII Filter Options message appears.
> How to fix the problem soon?
> Thank you.
> Yours sincerely,Jenny
>

Re: please help me

[Brian Barker]

At 16:34 05/12/2017 -0800, Howard Blum wrote:

I must confess, I am spoiled as a very long term Apple Mac user ...


I sympathise ...

... and if I cannot figure out how to use an application without 
looking for a user's guide or manual I tend to walk away from the 
application and try another.


I agree. I thought of buying a car, but discovered that one has to 
take driving lessons and pass a test and learn all about licences and 
insurance, so I gave up. And I was tempted to invest in a piano, but 
again it seems I would have to take lessons in order to be able to play it ...



Having said that, I love this application suite ...


Good: we agree on that. But I espouse learning.

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Re: please help me

[Howard Blum]

I must confess, I am spoiled as a very long term Apple Mac user and if I
cannot figure out how to use an application without looking for a user's
guide or manual I tend to walk away from the application and try another.

Having said that, I love this application suite much better than MS Office.
Okay, so it does not have some items we have become used to in their suite
of apps, but no biggie as far as I can tell.

Thanks again for such a great apps.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

>
>
> On 06/12/17 6:07 AM, Ella Oblas wrote:
>
>> I just learned by trial and error that what I have saved is considered a
>> "picture" and not a document.
>>
>
> OK, the good news is that you learn from your mistakes, now you have to
> learn that hijacking someone else message is a bad habit.
> If you want help start a new email which makes it easier to archive by
> subject and by the way" please help me" is not a descriptive subject.
>
> Could you be searching for a document that the computer deemed a "picture"?
>>
>
> For a computer a document can be anything e.g. a Word document, a Drawing,
> a Spreadsheet or a Photo.
> The computer rely on the users to define the type of document e.g. .doc,
> .odt, .pdf or .jpg
> Most applications saves with the correct file type, but allow to change it
> by the user.
>
>
>>
>> Ella
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Diane 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:01 PM
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: please help me
>>
>> Hello,
>> I use Apache Open Office and would like to insert the file/path into the
>> document so I know where it is next time. I’ve tried going to insert,
>> fields, other, file name (type), path/file name (format) and insert. When I
>> do this I don’t get the path and file name – all I get is “path/file name”
>> added but that’s not what I need. How do I add the proper file name of my
>> document that I just typed?
>>
>> Thanks so much.
>>
>> Diane
>> dixiedi...@gforcecable.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: please help me

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 06/12/17 6:07 AM, Ella Oblas wrote:

I just learned by trial and error that what I have saved is considered a 
"picture" and not a document.


OK, the good news is that you learn from your mistakes, now you have to 
learn that hijacking someone else message is a bad habit.
If you want help start a new email which makes it easier to archive by 
subject and by the way" please help me" is not a descriptive subject.



Could you be searching for a document that the computer deemed a "picture"?


For a computer a document can be anything e.g. a Word document, a 
Drawing, a Spreadsheet or a Photo.
The computer rely on the users to define the type of document e.g. .doc, 
.odt, .pdf or .jpg
Most applications saves with the correct file type, but allow to change 
it by the user.





Ella



From: Diane 
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:01 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: please help me

Hello,
I use Apache Open Office and would like to insert the file/path into the 
document so I know where it is next time. I’ve tried going to insert, fields, 
other, file name (type), path/file name (format) and insert. When I do this I 
don’t get the path and file name – all I get is “path/file name” added but 
that’s not what I need. How do I add the proper file name of my document that I 
just typed?

Thanks so much.

Diane
dixiedi...@gforcecable.com





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Re: please help me

[Ella Oblas]

I just learned by trial and error that what I have saved is considered a 
"picture" and not a document.  Could you be searching for a document that the 
computer deemed a "picture"?


Ella



From: Diane 
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:01 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: please help me

Hello,
I use Apache Open Office and would like to insert the file/path into the 
document so I know where it is next time. I’ve tried going to insert, fields, 
other, file name (type), path/file name (format) and insert. When I do this I 
don’t get the path and file name – all I get is “path/file name” added but 
that’s not what I need. How do I add the proper file name of my document that I 
just typed?

Thanks so much.

Diane
dixiedi...@gforcecable.com

Re: please help me

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 12:01:00 -0500
"Diane"  wrote:

> Hello,
> I use Apache Open Office and would like to insert the file/path into the 
> document so I know where it is next time. I’ve tried going to insert, fields, 
> other, file name (type), path/file name (format) and insert. When I do this I 
> don’t get the path and file name – all I get is “path/file name” added but 
> that’s not what I need. How do I add the proper file name of my document that 
> I just typed?
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Diane
> dixiedi...@gforcecable.com
> 

Toggle /View /Field names.



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Re: Please Help

[Dave]

On 19.09.2017 12:26, N Ladhu wrote:
> Dear Support Team,
> 
> I have used open office for a number of years and now predominantly use it 
> for work documents.
> 
> I use OpenOffice on my MacBook Pro 13” running on Mac OS Sierra Version 
> 10.12.6.
> 
> Open Office sadly crashed and I now cannot edit or save changes or convert 
> any documents and even have to open them in an odd way. 
> 
> This is due to any actions being blocked by a pop up message that will not go 
> away. 
> 
> The message is as follows:
> 
> "The last time you opened OpenOffice, it unexpectedly quit while reopening 
> windows. 
> Do you want to try to reopen its windows again?”
> 
> "If you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the 
> windows yourself."
> 
> Regardless of whether I select Open or Don’t Reopen the message does not 
> respond and stays on the screen.
> 
> I Googled the error and found many other users have had the same issue but 
> their suggestions to fix it aren’t applicable. 
> 
> I would really appreciate if you could kindly advise ASAP.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Narikai 


You need to delete the folder "org.openoffice.script.savedState". It is
in the "Saved Application State" folder in your User/Library.

See this post on the user forum for detailed instructions:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17=55755#p244931

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Re: Please Help

[zahra a]

hello did you have backup of your file?
or saved informations before crashing?
see openoffice tools, options, load-save, general save auto recovery
information every and also always create backup copy.

windows has the option for recovery of file and restore to the
previous state, i believe that mac also should has such option or at
least free external application for recovery lost data!
hope that help, God bless you and his infinite mercy be for you.

On 9/19/17, N Ladhu  wrote:
> Dear Support Team,
>
> I have used open office for a number of years and now predominantly use it
> for work documents.
>
> I use OpenOffice on my MacBook Pro 13” running on Mac OS Sierra Version
> 10.12.6.
>
> Open Office sadly crashed and I now cannot edit or save changes or convert
> any documents and even have to open them in an odd way.
>
> This is due to any actions being blocked by a pop up message that will not
> go away.
>
> The message is as follows:
>
> "The last time you opened OpenOffice, it unexpectedly quit while reopening
> windows.
> Do you want to try to reopen its windows again?”
>
> "If you choose not to reopen windows, you may have to open and position the
> windows yourself."
>
> Regardless of whether I select Open or Don’t Reopen the message does not
> respond and stays on the screen.
>
> I Googled the error and found many other users have had the same issue but
> their suggestions to fix it aren’t applicable.
>
> I would really appreciate if you could kindly advise ASAP.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Narikai


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Re: PLEASE HELP WITH THIS-ODT FILE WAS ALTERED AND IS NOW CORRRUPTED

[Martin Groenescheij]

On 10/03/17 1:10 AM, Ash Ash wrote:

If you remember nothing else from this guide, please make sure you remember 
this. Whenever you ask for technical support, make absolutely sure you state 
the following:


1) Which version of OpenOffice.org you are running.


Open office 4.1.2


2) What your operating system is (for example, Windows XP).


Windows XP


3) If there is an error, state clearly what it is and how we can reproduce it.


When the documed was opened a message from ASCII filter popped up. After that 
the file was not readable.


4) Do not attach files to mail messages. We absolutely need you to include this 
information before we can help you


From: Ash Ash
Sent: 09 March 2017 13:55:59
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: PLEASE HELP WITH THIS-ODT FILE WAS ALTERED AND IS NOW CORRRUPTED


Hi,


This morning when I opened my odt file there was a message from ASCII Filter 
and I mistakenly clicked yes. It appears this had modified the actual text 
content or just changed the text style from english to some other style format. 
The file is now opens in square symbols and it is unintelligable to read. There 
is nothing in english. The whole file has been altered. This file is for work 
so it is very important the work is not list.


The ASCII Filter can't interpret the character set used in the document, 
this is because your file is corrupt.
Most likely this happens when your system is shut down before OpenOffice 
was able to write everything to disk.
Keep in mind that OpenOffice compresses all files which takes some 
processing time.




Am not sure if the contents have disappeared or just the english has changed to 
some other style format and so the work is retrievable. I need the restored 
version from yesterday 8/3/2017 around 5:09 pm which is the version it was 
before I opened the file this morning.


Under Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> General there is an option to 
create backup's
Backups are stored in the directory set under Tools -> Options -> 
OpenOffice -> Paths





Please can you have a look at the file and if you are able to restore please do 
so. The file is attached to this email.


I very much appreciate your help in this matter. I have very little to no 
understanding of this type of stuff so have no idea what must be done.


Thank you


Naj





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Re: PLEASE HELP WITH THIS-ODT FILE WAS ALTERED AND IS NOW CORRRUPTED

[Ash Ash]

If you remember nothing else from this guide, please make sure you remember 
this. Whenever you ask for technical support, make absolutely sure you state 
the following:


1) Which version of OpenOffice.org you are running.


Open office 4.1.2


2) What your operating system is (for example, Windows XP).


Windows XP


3) If there is an error, state clearly what it is and how we can reproduce it.


When the documed was opened a message from ASCII filter popped up. After that 
the file was not readable.


4) Do not attach files to mail messages. We absolutely need you to include this 
information before we can help you


From: Ash Ash
Sent: 09 March 2017 13:55:59
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: PLEASE HELP WITH THIS-ODT FILE WAS ALTERED AND IS NOW CORRRUPTED


Hi,


This morning when I opened my odt file there was a message from ASCII Filter 
and I mistakenly clicked yes. It appears this had modified the actual text 
content or just changed the text style from english to some other style format. 
The file is now opens in square symbols and it is unintelligable to read. There 
is nothing in english. The whole file has been altered. This file is for work 
so it is very important the work is not list.


Am not sure if the contents have disappeared or just the english has changed to 
some other style format and so the work is retrievable. I need the restored 
version from yesterday 8/3/2017 around 5:09 pm which is the version it was 
before I opened the file this morning.


Please can you have a look at the file and if you are able to restore please do 
so. The file is attached to this email.


I very much appreciate your help in this matter. I have very little to no 
understanding of this type of stuff so have no idea what must be done.


Thank you


Naj

Re: Please stop

[ninja_glace]

Joe, 

You may be interested in this article on a phenomenon that we call
bikeshedding: 

http://bikeshed.com/ 

Just because there are lots of people contributing to this mailing list
does not necessarily mean that the original poster's problem was
resolved. :=) 

Additionally, the OpenOffice Users mailing list is not the only way you
can provide help to others. 

Another option that is available to you is the OpenOffice support forum,
available at https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ (a link to the
English forum). 

If you require some sort of privacy while providing support, the forum
allows you to send private messages to people, which are not posted
online. 

I'm not sure how much this helps, but we certainly hope you stay
involved with the Apache OpenOffice project.  As it stands now, we need
all the support we can get. 

On 2017-01-26 19:02, po...@yahoo.com.INVALID wrote:

> So, I signed up to help out but all I get is emails from others like me who 
> want to help.
> 
> What a crazy system. So much so that maybe I'd lie to withdraw my offer and 
> stop getting emails can't do anything about. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Joe 
> 
> Sent from my email to yours

Re: Please stop

[Wade Smart]

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On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:02 PM,   wrote:
> So, I signed up to help out but all I get is emails from others like me who 
> want to help.
>
> What a crazy system. So much so that maybe I'd lie to withdraw my offer and 
> stop getting emails can't do anything about.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> Sent from my email to yours

What did you think you were signing up for?
You can always unsubscribe.

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Re: please register with apple...

[Isaac Schrader]

We are connected to Apple. You will need to redownload the software again. I 
think you have a corrupted file. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 23, 2017, at 1:09 AM, Karanita Stinton  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey there
> I just downloaded open office, only to find my mac will not allow me to open 
> it. 
> After further investigation, I found that it may be because you are not 
> registered with apple??? 
> I understand if there are extenuating circumstances to the reasons behind 
> your not registering with apple, however, a note to downloaders would be nice
> 
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Re: please register with apple...

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2017-01-22, 8:48 PM Karanita Stinton wrote concerning "please register with 
apple...":


Hey there
I just downloaded open office, only to find my mac will not allow me to open it.
After further investigation, I found that it may be because you are not 
registered with apple???
I understand if there are extenuating circumstances to the reasons behind your 
not registering with apple, however, a note to downloaders would be nice



You can open Apache OpenOffice on your Mac. I have been using it on my Macs for 
years.
From the release notes  at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.3ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues 
:


   Known Issues
   For macOS users:
   Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 will be flagged by the Gatekeeper facility in Mac OS 
X. This is a
   feature to help guard against malware on recent Mac OS X systems.

   For Mac OS X up to 10.11 "El Capitan": There is a procedure laid out at the 
following link
   to allow applications not installed from the Mac App store to run. See the 
Mac support
   article https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202491

   For Mac OS X 10.12 "Sierra": In Finder, Control-click or right click the 
icon of the app.
   Select Open from the top of contextual menu that appears. Click Open in the 
dialog box. If
   prompted, enter an administrator name and password.This is needed just the 
first time you
   launch Apache OpenOffice.


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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2017-01-12 19:51 GMT+01:00 Eileen Peakman :

> I never asked for open Office to be removed
>

Nobody said you were, unless the OP and you are the same person. The email
addresses are different, though (calexic...@gmail.com ≠ egp...@gmail.com).


> > On 11 Jan 2017, at 21:19, Johnny Rosenberg 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sure. Where do you live?
> >
> > 2016-11-24 20:13 GMT+01:00 mel moore :
> >
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[Eileen Peakman]

I never asked for open Office to be removed
> On 11 Jan 2017, at 21:19, Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:
> 
> Sure. Where do you live?
> 
> 2016-11-24 20:13 GMT+01:00 mel moore :
> 
>> 
>> 


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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Sure. Where do you live?

2016-11-24 20:13 GMT+01:00 mel moore :

>
>

Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[Daniel DeFoe]

mel moore

The macintosh based computer Operating System does not work in that way.

You are going to have to throw the program into the trash if you don't want
it

on the computer any longer.  Loading or disposing of any program is not

the authors of the programs responsibilities, but that of the user of the
computer.


Always has been unless you are one of those special people who works for

a company that has an IT staff do all of your "maintenance" work.


Good luck, and consider getting a few books on the basics of getting around

the operating system you are using on your computer.

On 24 November 2016 at 22:21, James Knott  wrote:

> On 11/24/2016 03:46 PM, Andrea wrote:
> > Am 24.11.2016 um 20:13 schrieb mel moore:
> >>
> >>
> > ROTFL - that's the strangest thing i read here
> >
>
> A bit short on detail though.  ;-)
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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[James Knott]

On 11/24/2016 03:46 PM, Andrea wrote:
> Am 24.11.2016 um 20:13 schrieb mel moore:
>>
>>
> ROTFL - that's the strangest thing i read here
>

A bit short on detail though.  ;-)


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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[Andrea]

Am 24.11.2016 um 20:13 schrieb mel moore:




ROTFL - that's the strangest thing i read here

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Re: Please help. Having problems with Calc

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Scott,

Scott Bennett schrieb:

My wife has used Calc for years to keep track of highly detailed tax data
for our business. This week she was entering info on a certain sheet (she
has multiple sheets) and it was entering that same info on sheet number
one. When she deleted a row from sheet number 3, it deleted it from sheet
number 1. We lost a bunch of data this way...actually all of the sheets are
behaving as one sheet. Please let me know how we resolve this. This is a
fresh install of OO on a Windows 10 laptop.



Perhaps you had accidentally selected all sheets? You should try 
work-flow again with a test document.


Kind regards
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Re: Please help. Having problems with Calc

[nasrin khaksar]

hello.
i encourage you to make backup from your essential documents.
did you try undo for your unwanted changes to return to its previous
normal states?
thanks so much for your asking.
hope that helps and god bless you.

On 4/8/16, Dan Lewis  wrote:
> On 04/07/2016 05:48 PM, Scott Bennett wrote:
>> My wife has used Calc for years to keep track of highly detailed tax data
>> for our business. This week she was entering info on a certain sheet (she
>> has multiple sheets) and it was entering that same info on sheet number
>> one. When she deleted a row from sheet number 3, it deleted it from sheet
>> number 1. We lost a bunch of data this way...actually all of the sheets
>> are
>> behaving as one sheet. Please let me know how we resolve this. This is a
>> fresh install of OO on a Windows 10 laptop.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Scot
>>
> This is one reason why you should have used a database for your record.
>
> Dan
>


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Re: Please help. Having problems with Calc

[Martin Groenescheij]

If you have selected multiple sheets either by purpose or accidentally data 
entries or changes are done on all selected sheets.
This can be handy if you like to enter formulas on multiple sheets, but as you 
experienced it can be a disaster when you're not aware of it.

Sent from my mobile device.

> On 8 Apr 2016, at 7:48 AM, Scott Bennett  wrote:
> 
> My wife has used Calc for years to keep track of highly detailed tax data
> for our business. This week she was entering info on a certain sheet (she
> has multiple sheets) and it was entering that same info on sheet number
> one. When she deleted a row from sheet number 3, it deleted it from sheet
> number 1. We lost a bunch of data this way...actually all of the sheets are
> behaving as one sheet. Please let me know how we resolve this. This is a
> fresh install of OO on a Windows 10 laptop.
> 
> Thanks
> Scot
> 
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Re: please

[David Rivers]

John Hart wrote:

On 1/27/2016 3:43 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:


Sent from my mobile device.


On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:52 AM, Maurice Howe  wrote:

I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe" 
things

is taking WAY too much time and resource.
It's easily (in theory, anyway) fixed:
Unsubscribe is easy as well, all you need to remember is the email 
address you used while subscribing to the mailing list. But when you 
unsubscribe with an other email address you're in trouble.



Not when the link you click to unsubscribe, transfers the TO address 
in the header to the unsubscribe webpage.


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In order for an unsubscribe web page to work it would have to recognize 
the user who's wanting to unsubscribe, otherwise anyone could 
unsubscribe anyone else. To get around that a paasword system would have 
to be established and the web page hosted and maintained. I fail to see 
how that simplifies things.
Clicking on the appropriate link at the bottom of any message from any 
member of the group, then clicking "send", waiting a minute for a 
confirmation request to arrive then returning that as requested seems to 
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Re: please

[Julian Thomas]

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 17:42, John Hart  wrote:
> 
> I think some sites distributing copies of OO, subscribe people to the list, 
> and call it support. Making
> it easier for those who don't want to receive it to stop it, would take a 
> little work, but I'm sure people
> having trouble unsubscribing, and monitors that have to deal with them would 
> appreciate it.


If a site subscribes someone to the list, is this automatic, or is it like most 
other lists where a confirmation is required?

The confirmation required message could include in flashing neon lights the 
unsubscribe procedure.
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Re: please

[John Hart]

On 1/29/2016 4:20 AM, David Rivers wrote:
In order for an unsubscribe web page to work it would have to 
recognize the user who's wanting to unsubscribe, otherwise anyone 
could unsubscribe anyone else. To get around that a paasword system 
would have to be established and the web page hosted and maintained. I 
fail to see how that simplifies things.
Clicking on the appropriate link at the bottom of any message from any 
member of the group, then clicking "send", waiting a minute for a 
confirmation request to arrive then returning that as requested seems 
to me to be much easier.
Ive subscribed to hundreds of lists. Recently I found I was getting too 
much email,
and I clicked on the unsubscribe link at the bottom of about twenty of 
them. None of the pages
asked for a password, and every one unsubscribed the address passed to 
it  without a problem.


The reason for the suggestions was to improve the list, not to add to 
the clutter. By the quality of the product,
it's obvious a lot of smart people donated time on the OO project. Why 
something as simple as fixing a minor
unsubscribe problem, generates so much opposition is beyond 
understanding, and besides that, I don't think

making excuses does anyone any good.

jrh



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Re: please

[John Hart]

On 1/29/2016 3:20 PM, John Hart wrote:

On 1/29/2016 4:20 AM, David Rivers wrote:
In order for an unsubscribe web page to work it would have to 
recognize the user who's wanting to unsubscribe, otherwise anyone 
could unsubscribe anyone else.
Not true. The person maliciously unsubscribing someone, would have to 
have a copy of their email,
and if that was the case, I think getting wrongly unsubscribed from this 
list would be the least of their
problems. I get hundreds of  mails a day and I know how to deal with 
them, but many people don't,
and there is no way to unsubscribe to people complaining they can 
unsubscribe, without making a

complex filter for this group.

I think some sites distributing copies of OO, subscribe people to the 
list, and call it support. Making
it easier for those who don't want to receive it to stop it, would take 
a little work, but I'm sure people
having trouble unsubscribing, and monitors that have to deal with them 
would appreciate it.


jrh


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Re: please

[Keith N. McKenna]

John Hart wrote:
> On 1/27/2016 8:17 PM, Daniel DeFoe wrote:
>> I am sort of new here, and I won't pretend to know much, but it seems
>> that
>> it would be nice if someone with more skill than I have could set up a
>> Wiki, that way anyone could sign in who wants to, they could quit when
>> they
>> wanted to, not show up if they don't want to. Contribute if they want to.
>> I won't pretend to know all that it would require, but it is just an idea
>> from something I was reading about connected to another project that I am
>> working with.
>>
>> On 28 January 2016 at 04:13, Daniel DeFoe 
>> wrote:
>>
> USENET was on the verge of becoming a very useful public data base, when
> it was forced into the background
> by commercial interests, and government censors. Blog software with a
> few AI extensions could turn this list
> into something to be proud of.
> 
> jrh
John;

Usenet is still alive and working nicely. I subscribe to most of the
Apache lists using gmane. As far as blog software and AI extensions; are
you volunteering to set it up and maintain it on your hardware? Apache
projects are volunteer efforts there is no corporate structure with
large budgets and dedicated IT staffs. If I remember correctly the
full-time Infrastructure staff is 5 people backed by volunteers with the
requisite skills from all of the other projects.

I subscribe to a number of other support mailing lists and they all have
the same problem with people not understanding the unsubscribe process.
The difference between this list and for instance the SeaMonkey list, is
that we have a higher percentage of users that are less technically
oriented. Those people are going to require a bit more understanding and
hand-holding.

Regards
Keith



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Re: please

[tom]

I joined this for info. but it seems like lots of drama. i would like to be 
removed from this group.  

Dennis repeated unwanted communication through an elecronic  device.. phone, 
tablec , computer etc.. Is aggravated harassment But you must first ask to be 
removed from the list. There are plenty of attorneys that will jump all over 
this ( the judgement starts at $10,000 - 1/3 lawyer fees ). If they dont remove 
me i will simply place it in the spam folder


> On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:26 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> The Community Forum, although a bit more organized and curated, might be 
> along the lines you are thinking of:
> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/>.
> 
> There is also a Wiki, although it is not so crowd-sourced as the original 
> wiki idea,
> <https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page>.
> 
> It turns out that wikis do have to be curated by someone in order to be 
> organized in a way where others can find their way in, etc.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Daniel DeFoe [mailto:daniel.de.foe1...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 19:18
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: please
>> 
>> I am sort of new here, and I won't pretend to know much, but it seems
>> that
>> it would be nice if someone with more skill than I have could set up a
>> Wiki, that way anyone could sign in who wants to, they could quit when
>> they
>> wanted to, not show up if they don't want to. Contribute if they want
>> to.
>> I won't pretend to know all that it would require, but it is just an
>> idea
>> from something I was reading about connected to another project that I
>> am
>> working with.
>> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> 
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Re: please

[Andrea Pescetti]

Maurice Howe wrote:

I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe" things
is taking WAY too much time and resource.


I'm not one of them, but moderators often take action and contact the 
person directly in these cases, and can force the unsubscribe. So the 
best way to reduce traffic and waste of time is actually to be confident 
that the moderators will address these issues at their earliest 
convenience. I can't check now, but if I recall correctly this was the 
advice given by moderators of this or some other OpenOffice list.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: please [RESOLVED]

[Dave Barton]

 Original Message  
From: Andrea Pescetti
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:39:46 +0100

> Maurice Howe wrote:
>> I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe"
>> things
>> is taking WAY too much time and resource.
> 
> I'm not one of them, but moderators often take action and contact the
> person directly in these cases, and can force the unsubscribe. So the
> best way to reduce traffic and waste of time is actually to be confident
> that the moderators will address these issues at their earliest
> convenience. I can't check now, but if I recall correctly this was the
> advice given by moderators of this or some other OpenOffice list.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.

Thank you Andrea. This is totally correct. On two previous occasions I
have appealed to the users list subscribers to please ignore these
"unsubscribe me" messages and leave it to the moderators.

In this instance I immediately contacted the individual in question
offering to assist with this issue. Either his hotmail account
"filtered" my email, or he chose to ignore it. In either case, today he
sent another aggressive "demand" to the list owner address and I have
now forcibly removed him from the subscriber list.

Again I appeal to all list subscribers to please NOT respond to these
requests. Ill considered replies can antagonize the inexperienced, or
those of questionable intellect, which makes the moderators' job of
peacefully resolving these situations unnecessarily difficult.

Thanks & Regards
Dave



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Re: please

[Martin Groenescheij]

Sent from my mobile device.

> On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:52 AM, Maurice Howe  wrote:
> 
> I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe" things
> is taking WAY too much time and resource.  

> It's easily (in theory, anyway) fixed:

Unsubscribe is easy as well, all you need to remember is the email address you 
used while subscribing to the mailing list. But when you unsubscribe with an 
other email address you're in trouble.

> just build a macro with the req'd steps -- one that's generalized &
> easily executed -- and end this nonsense once for all.

And how is a macro aware of the original email address used with the 
subscription?

> 
> Maurice Howe
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:29 PM, John Hart  wrote:
>> 
>> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe
>> links that aren't so problem prone.
>> What would be much better is a blog, with mail notification of responses
>> to one's post. That way people would
>> get answers to their question, with out all the NOISE, and it would be
>> easier to form a data base of queries.
>> 
>> Support is the most important part of any software project, be it open
>> source or not. If volunteers of this project
>> want it to be successful, they must get their act together.
>> 
>> jrh
>> 
>> Tax credits for contributions to open source software is the answer.
>> 
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>> 
>> 

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Re: please

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2016-01-27, 11:38 PM John Hart wrote:
With enough force, round pegs will go in square holes, but it might be better to make it so 
common people

can unsubscribe, without taking a class.


You click the link in the bottom of an email from the list: To unsubscribe, e-mail: 
users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org


Send the email.
Reply to the confirmation notice you receive.

You need a class to do that???

It is the same process you followed to subscribe to the mailing list.

Oh, and after confirming your subscription to the mailing list you receive an email telling how 
to unsubscribe as well as other information about the list.


It ain't rocket science. No class required unless one is a complete idiot, in which case a 
class would not likely be useful.



--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
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Re: please

[John Hart]

On 1/27/2016 3:43 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:


Sent from my mobile device.


On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:52 AM, Maurice Howe  wrote:

I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe" things
is taking WAY too much time and resource.
It's easily (in theory, anyway) fixed:

Unsubscribe is easy as well, all you need to remember is the email address you 
used while subscribing to the mailing list. But when you unsubscribe with an 
other email address you're in trouble.


Not when the link you click to unsubscribe, transfers the TO address in 
the header to the unsubscribe webpage.


jrh

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Re: please

[John Hart]

On 1/27/2016 2:52 PM, Maurice Howe wrote:

I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe" things is 
taking WAY too much time and resource.  It's easily (in theory, anyway)fixed: just build a 
macro with the req'd steps -- one that's generalized & easily executed -- and end this 
nonsense once for all.

Maurice Howe



Well put

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Re: please

[Daniel DeFoe]

To John Heart
 I like your idea for the tax credits, but since you are then competing
with Microsoft and all of those other companies that are collecting big
money and are there for paying bigger monies to the governement, good luck
on that one.  ( not that I don't wish it would happen - but the real world
has greedy politicians and they know who to go to for money to support
their desired life styles, and they are the ones who get the tax credits,
the ones that pay the politicians for them).



On 27 January 2016 at 23:43, Martin Groenescheij 
wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> > On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:52 AM, Maurice Howe  wrote:
> >
> > I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe"
> things
> > is taking WAY too much time and resource.
>
> > It's easily (in theory, anyway) fixed:
>
> Unsubscribe is easy as well, all you need to remember is the email address
> you used while subscribing to the mailing list. But when you unsubscribe
> with an other email address you're in trouble.
>
> > just build a macro with the req'd steps -- one that's generalized &
> > easily executed -- and end this nonsense once for all.
>
> And how is a macro aware of the original email address used with the
> subscription?
>
> >
> > Maurice Howe
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:29 PM, John Hart  wrote:
> >>
> >> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe
> >> links that aren't so problem prone.
> >> What would be much better is a blog, with mail notification of responses
> >> to one's post. That way people would
> >> get answers to their question, with out all the NOISE, and it would be
> >> easier to form a data base of queries.
> >>
> >> Support is the most important part of any software project, be it open
> >> source or not. If volunteers of this project
> >> want it to be successful, they must get their act together.
> >>
> >> jrh
> >>
> >> Tax credits for contributions to open source software is the answer.
> >>
> >> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
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>
>

Re: please

[Daniel DeFoe]

I am sort of new here, and I won't pretend to know much, but it seems that
it would be nice if someone with more skill than I have could set up a
Wiki, that way anyone could sign in who wants to, they could quit when they
wanted to, not show up if they don't want to. Contribute if they want to.
I won't pretend to know all that it would require, but it is just an idea
from something I was reading about connected to another project that I am
working with.

On 28 January 2016 at 04:13, Daniel DeFoe 
wrote:

> To John Heart
>  I like your idea for the tax credits, but since you are then competing
> with Microsoft and all of those other companies that are collecting big
> money and are there for paying bigger monies to the governement, good luck
> on that one.  ( not that I don't wish it would happen - but the real world
> has greedy politicians and they know who to go to for money to support
> their desired life styles, and they are the ones who get the tax credits,
> the ones that pay the politicians for them).
>
>
>
> On 27 January 2016 at 23:43, Martin Groenescheij 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>
>> > On 28 Jan 2016, at 7:52 AM, Maurice Howe  wrote:
>> >
>> > I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe"
>> things
>> > is taking WAY too much time and resource.
>>
>> > It's easily (in theory, anyway) fixed:
>>
>> Unsubscribe is easy as well, all you need to remember is the email
>> address you used while subscribing to the mailing list. But when you
>> unsubscribe with an other email address you're in trouble.
>>
>> > just build a macro with the req'd steps -- one that's generalized &
>> > easily executed -- and end this nonsense once for all.
>>
>> And how is a macro aware of the original email address used with the
>> subscription?
>>
>> >
>> > Maurice Howe
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:29 PM, John Hart  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have
>> unsubscribe
>> >> links that aren't so problem prone.
>> >> What would be much better is a blog, with mail notification of
>> responses
>> >> to one's post. That way people would
>> >> get answers to their question, with out all the NOISE, and it would be
>> >> easier to form a data base of queries.
>> >>
>> >> Support is the most important part of any software project, be it open
>> >> source or not. If volunteers of this project
>> >> want it to be successful, they must get their act together.
>> >>
>> >> jrh
>> >>
>> >> Tax credits for contributions to open source software is the answer.
>> >>
>> >> -
>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>

Re: please

[John Hart]

On 1/27/2016 8:17 PM, Daniel DeFoe wrote:

I am sort of new here, and I won't pretend to know much, but it seems that
it would be nice if someone with more skill than I have could set up a
Wiki, that way anyone could sign in who wants to, they could quit when they
wanted to, not show up if they don't want to. Contribute if they want to.
I won't pretend to know all that it would require, but it is just an idea
from something I was reading about connected to another project that I am
working with.

On 28 January 2016 at 04:13, Daniel DeFoe 
wrote:

USENET was on the verge of becoming a very useful public data base, when 
it was forced into the background
by commercial interests, and government censors. Blog software with a 
few AI extensions could turn this list

into something to be proud of.

jrh

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Re: please

[toki]

On 28/01/2016 05:47, John Hart wrote:

> Everyone would benefit, except virus writers, snoopers, thieves and black 
> hackers.

FYI, there is open source code for viri, and similar malware.  As such,
even they might potentially benefit from tax credits.

jonathon

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Re: please

[John Hart]

The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe 
links that aren't so problem prone.
What would be much better is a blog, with mail notification of responses 
to one's post. That way people would
get answers to their question, with out all the NOISE, and it would be 
easier to form a data base of queries.


Support is the most important part of any software project, be it open 
source or not. If volunteers of this project

want it to be successful, they must get their act together.

jrh

Tax credits for contributions to open source software is the answer.

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Re: please

[Fernando Cassia]

On 1/27/16, John Hart  wrote:
> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe
> links that aren't so problem prone.

What is exactly, "the problem" and what do you propose to fix it?
I dont see anything different in the way this mailing list works
compared with others.

No one can help users who cannot READ the automatic notification they
get after requesting to unsubscribe. Without this
verification/clicking step, anybody could unsubscribe anybody else
from the list. That's the way mailing lists work.

To me the problem seems to be people who join a mailing list without
knowing what a mailing list is or how it works. Tha's why I suggested
we make it clear on the subcription page that a mailing list involves,
gee, receiving questions and answers from lots of stranges, to your
email inbox. I even proposed changing the wording from "mailing list"
to "discussion list"

FC

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Re: please

[Maurice Howe]

I (and others) have yelled for years about this.  The "unsubscribe" things
is taking WAY too much time and resource.  It's easily (in theory, anyway)
fixed: just build a macro with the req'd steps -- one that's generalized &
easily executed -- and end this nonsense once for all.

Maurice Howe

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:29 PM, John Hart  wrote:

> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe
> links that aren't so problem prone.
> What would be much better is a blog, with mail notification of responses
> to one's post. That way people would
> get answers to their question, with out all the NOISE, and it would be
> easier to form a data base of queries.
>
> Support is the most important part of any software project, be it open
> source or not. If volunteers of this project
> want it to be successful, they must get their act together.
>
> jrh
>
> Tax credits for contributions to open source software is the answer.
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

RE: please

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The Community Forum, although a bit more organized and curated, might be along 
the lines you are thinking of:
<https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/>.

There is also a Wiki, although it is not so crowd-sourced as the original wiki 
idea,
<https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page>.

It turns out that wikis do have to be curated by someone in order to be 
organized in a way where others can find their way in, etc.

 - Dennis



> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel DeFoe [mailto:daniel.de.foe1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 19:18
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: please
> 
> I am sort of new here, and I won't pretend to know much, but it seems
> that
> it would be nice if someone with more skill than I have could set up a
> Wiki, that way anyone could sign in who wants to, they could quit when
> they
> wanted to, not show up if they don't want to. Contribute if they want
> to.
> I won't pretend to know all that it would require, but it is just an
> idea
> from something I was reading about connected to another project that I
> am
> working with.
> 
[ ... ]


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Re: please

[John Hart]

On 1/27/2016 8:13 PM, Daniel DeFoe wrote:

To John Heart
  I like your idea for the tax credits, but since you are then competing
with Microsoft and all of those other companies that are collecting big
money and are there for paying bigger monies to the governement, good luck
on that one.  ( not that I don't wish it would happen - but the real world
has greedy politicians and they know who to go to for money to support
their desired life styles, and they are the ones who get the tax credits,
the ones that pay the politicians for them).



Corporations like Microsoft would get credit for supporting OSS. 
Everyone would benefit, except virus writers,

snoopers, thieves and black hackers.

jrh

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Re: please

[Daniel DeFoe]

Craig at the bottom of every single email I have ever received from Open
Office has the next line\

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No one here can help you if you cant read.

On 26 January 2016 at 04:33, Jim McLaughlin 
wrote:

> Gee Craig, you were so sympathetic and persuasive in your request for help
> that on
> both the hotmail and comcast addresses you use I immediately filtered you
> out.
>
> You can rant and rage until the end of time and I won't
> pay a bit of attention or even "hear" or see a word you say or type.
>
> Have a lousy evening.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Craig Craft 
> wrote:
>
> > Listen up "Groucho"- I have no less than two (2) copies of two different
> > emails that I have properly sent through the requested email address
> > channels that you have stated are provided for unsubscribing. Not only
> > that, but, when I first politely asked you to please unsubscribe me after
> > that, you came back to me with quite a hostile temper demanding that I
> > follow the instructions, which I have already done. So, what I'm going to
> > do, since you are in charge of the show and refuse to manually
> unsubscribe
> > me is block every single address that comes to me from your webites AND
> > subscribers. It seems to me that you tech wizards have so many problems
> > with your designs while boasting to the world that you've got it all
> > figured out, and yet, you can't even get one simple unsubscribe to work.
> I
> > have seen this issue in passing with other users too, so, stop telling me
> > to unsubscribe when it is not working correctly and do it your danmed
> self!
> > PLEASE, have a day.
> >
> > Sent from Windows Mail
> >
> > From: dave
> > Sent: ?Sunday?, ?January? ?24?, ?2016 ?12?:?22
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> > please
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
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> >
> >
>

Re: please

[Wade Smart]

I just used another email to sign up, verify my sign up, request
unsubscribe and, verify unsubscribe request.

You may have been told what to do but to be clear: you HAVE to verify
the unsubscribe. If you are not getting that, check your spam filter.
NO one (that Im aware of) will unsubscribe you.

And if that doesnt work - set a filter to delete any email from
openoffice.apache.org.

Wade
--
Registered Linux User: #480675
Registered Linux Machine: #408606
Linux since June 2005


On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Craig Craft  wrote:
> Listen up "Groucho"- I have no less than two (2) copies of two different 
> emails that I have properly sent through the requested email address channels 
> that you have stated are provided for unsubscribing. Not only that, but, when 
> I first politely asked you to please unsubscribe me after that, you came back 
> to me with quite a hostile temper demanding that I follow the instructions, 
> which I have already done. So, what I'm going to do, since you are in charge 
> of the show and refuse to manually unsubscribe me is block every single 
> address that comes to me from your webites AND subscribers. It seems to me 
> that you tech wizards have so many problems with your designs while boasting 
> to the world that you've got it all figured out, and yet, you can't even get 
> one simple unsubscribe to work. I have seen this issue in passing with other 
> users too, so, stop telling me to unsubscribe when it is not working 
> correctly and do it your danmed self! PLEASE, have a day.
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> Sent from Windows Mail
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> From: dave
> Sent: ?Sunday?, ?January? ?24?, ?2016 ?12?:?22
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Re: please

[John Hart]

Of the 13,000+ emails I've received from the list, more than 10% 
(1,740)  concern unsubscribing.


If there are a thousand readers of the list, and they spent six seconds 
on each, that's five thousand hours.


A small sample below:

658irst politely asked you to please unsubscribe me after that, you
658f the show and refuse to manually unsubscribe me is block every s
658et, you can't even get one simple unsubscribe to work. I have see
658users too, so, stop telling me to unsubscribe when it is not work
1339can unsubscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
15372How do I unsubscribe from this group?
32650Note that the unsubscribe request and your later confirmation ema
33855 attention or *learning* how to unsubscribe or I'll wager
33859 had to subscribe and unsubscribe to this list and it worked fla
33892s that makes you believe that the unsubscribe mechanism fails
33935>> >> I did the unsubscribe think again and they keep coming.
34040> > Do I have to unsubscribe each and every e-mail
34052Unfortunately the unsubscribe seems to malfunction often.
34140> > I did the unsubscribe think again and they keep coming.
38926Then reply to the confirm unsubscribe email you reeive
39908How do I unsubscribe from these mails?
44928bullshit" and repeated unsubscribe advice.
44946> > unsubscribe to end the whining bullshit.
45107Suepke wrote concerning "Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread H
45328Subject: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up
45604> > unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete
45614tried to unsubscribe someone that is not subscribed, which will f
46177 robot which runs the subscribe / unsubscribe function.
46342Sent my unsubscribe request 3 times at
47704Subject: Re: confirm unsubscribe from users@openoffice.apache.org
50376Subject: unsubscribe from e-mailing list
750461) You unsubscribe from the issues list like explained above
75071There are no unsubscribe links or instructions at the end of the
75083ing else. But am being forced to  unsubscribe as the only way to
85333e is a link to click on that will unsubscribe you from the open o
102483It is your job to unsubscribe because it was you (or someone on y
103167    Subject: Re: Instructions to Unsubscribe [was: Re: Please take me
103176aps non-software developers would unsubscribe on their own and no
103177> > bother the list if the unsubscribe instructions provided in e
103249    Subject: Re: Instructions to Unsubscribe [was: Re: Please take me
103258> bother the list if the unsubscribe instructions provided in eve
103305Subject: Instructions to Unsubscribe [was: Re: Please take me off
103312aps non-software developers would unsubscribe on their own and no
103312wn and not bother the list if the unsubscribe instructions provid
103316To unsubscribe from this e-mail list:
103323message will be provided when the unsubscribe becomes effective.
107564> > To unsubscribe read, understand, and follow the directions at
116435rom the email address you want to unsubscribe (
122837Did you send your unsubscribe request to it from the same email a
139339> > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscribe@global.libreoffic
154061and can't be bothered to read the unsubscribe instructions at the
154376kwoo...@videotron.ca but tries to unsubscribe with kwoolno@gmail.
167126Give the individual wanting to unsubscribe a feeling of
167145 includes people who post "Please unsubscribe me" to the whole
167369hey jeffrey unsubscribe me or I'll come down there !


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Re: please

[Joe Conner]

I am not sure your math is accurate.
I calculated 2900 hours. But, that is
still a lot of man-hours.


On 01/26/2016 03:55 PM, John Hart wrote:
Of the 13,000+ emails I've received from the list, more than 10% 
(1,740)  concern unsubscribing.


If there are a thousand readers of the list, and they spent six 
seconds on each, that's five thousand hours.


A small sample below:

658irst politely asked you to please unsubscribe me after that, you
658f the show and refuse to manually unsubscribe me is block every s
658et, you can't even get one simple unsubscribe to work. I have see
658users too, so, stop telling me to unsubscribe when it is not work
1339can unsubscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
15372How do I unsubscribe from this group?
32650Note that the unsubscribe request and your later confirmation 
ema

33855 attention or *learning* how to unsubscribe or I'll wager
33859 had to subscribe and unsubscribe to this list and it worked fla
33892s that makes you believe that the unsubscribe mechanism fails
33935>> >> I did the unsubscribe think again and they keep coming.
34040> > Do I have to unsubscribe each and every e-mail
34052Unfortunately the unsubscribe seems to malfunction often.
34140> > I did the unsubscribe think again and they keep coming.
38926Then reply to the confirm unsubscribe email you reeive
39908How do I unsubscribe from these mails?
44928bullshit" and repeated unsubscribe advice.
44946> > unsubscribe to end the whining bullshit.
45107Suepke wrote concerning "Re: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread H
45328Subject: Unsubscribe Me Posts & Thread Hijacking [Was backing up
45604> > unsubscribe me or the next time I get an email I will delete
45614tried to unsubscribe someone that is not subscribed, which 
will f

46177 robot which runs the subscribe / unsubscribe function.
46342Sent my unsubscribe request 3 times at
47704Subject: Re: confirm unsubscribe from 
users@openoffice.apache.org

50376Subject: unsubscribe from e-mailing list
750461) You unsubscribe from the issues list like explained above
75071There are no unsubscribe links or instructions at the end of the
75083ing else. But am being forced to  unsubscribe as the only way to
85333e is a link to click on that will unsubscribe you from the 
open o
102483It is your job to unsubscribe because it was you (or someone 
on y
103167    Subject: Re: Instructions to Unsubscribe [was: Re: Please 
take me
103176aps non-software developers would unsubscribe on their own 
and no
103177> > bother the list if the unsubscribe instructions provided 
in e
103249    Subject: Re: Instructions to Unsubscribe [was: Re: Please 
take me
103258> bother the list if the unsubscribe instructions provided 
in eve
103305Subject: Instructions to Unsubscribe [was: Re: Please take 
me off
103312aps non-software developers would unsubscribe on their own 
and no
103312wn and not bother the list if the unsubscribe instructions 
provid

103316To unsubscribe from this e-mail list:
103323message will be provided when the unsubscribe becomes 
effective.
107564> > To unsubscribe read, understand, and follow the 
directions at

116435rom the email address you want to unsubscribe (
122837Did you send your unsubscribe request to it from the same 
email a
139339> > To unsubscribe e-mail to: 
users+unsubscribe@global.libreoffic
154061and can't be bothered to read the unsubscribe instructions 
at the
154376kwoo...@videotron.ca but tries to unsubscribe with 
kwoolno@gmail.

167126Give the individual wanting to unsubscribe a feeling of
167145 includes people who post "Please unsubscribe me" to the whole
167369hey jeffrey unsubscribe me or I'll come down there !


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Re: please

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Re: Please Help

[Julian Thomas]

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 23:04, Dale Erwin  wrote:
> 
> I submit that no set of computer-generated numbers is truly random.  
> Pseudo-random is the best you can hope for.

True if it's strictly an algorithmic process.  

Not necessarily true if you introduce variability from external sources [ping 
or response time on the network, or stock market fluctuations for example].  
Pseudo random implies repeatability.

In a prior life I came up with a scheme for a pseudorandom generator that used 
computer hardware measured values determined at power on to generate a 
non-repeatable seed.

I think we are converging on violent agreement!


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Re: Please Help

[Julian Thomas]

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 16:13, Peter Koch  wrote:
> 
> I am trying to generate random numbers without duplicate numbers being 
> generated. 

Mathematicians will tell you that a set of numbers isn't truly random if 
duplicates are disallowed.  You seem to want a random ordering of the integers 
in the range.

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Re: Please Help

[John Hart]

On 1/11/2016 2:59 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:

On Jan 11, 2016, at 16:13, Peter Koch  wrote:

I am trying to generate random numbers without duplicate numbers being 
generated.

Mathematicians will tell you that a set of numbers isn't truly random if 
duplicates are disallowed.  You seem to want a random ordering of the integers 
in the range.


Power Ball tickets don't have space for duplicate numbers


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Re: Please Help

[Dale Erwin]

On 1/11/2016 7:50 PM, John Hart wrote:

On 1/11/2016 2:59 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:

On Jan 11, 2016, at 16:13, Peter Koch  wrote:

I am trying to generate random numbers without duplicate numbers 
being generated.
Mathematicians will tell you that a set of numbers isn't truly random 
if duplicates are disallowed.  You seem to want a random ordering of 
the integers in the range.



Power Ball tickets don't have space for duplicate numbers


Mathematicians, Shmathematicians, I submit that no set of 
computer-generated numbers is truly random.  Pseudo-random is the best 
you can hope for.


Dale Erwin

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Re: Please Help

[toki]

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On 11/01/2016 21:13, Peter Koch wrote:

> I am trying to generate random numbers without duplicate numbers being
 generated.

Grab the spreadsheet Inglenook.OTS, that should be linked to this email,
and downloadable from Box.com.

An older, but working version can be found at
https://groups.io/g/ODF_Templates/files/Model%20Railroading

I think that
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2k6zd4wxjigu8w/inglenook.ods?dl=0 contains a
working version.

On the page "IQ" is one solution to generating a sequence of random
numbers, without duplicating any numbers. For your specific use-case,
change the random number multiplier to 69, from whatever the formula
uses. Then, if there are less than 69 numbers in the initial column,
increase the number to 69, and create additional rows, and columns, as
needed.
In essence, you need to add one column, for every row that is added.

It might take as much as an hour or so playing with the spreadsheet, and
studying the formulas, to understand what it is doing.

jonathon

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Re: Please Help

[Brian Barker]

At 21:13 11/01/2016 +, Peter Koch wrote:
I am trying to generate random numbers without duplicate numbers 
being generated. Can you help me with a formula. I am using the 
numbers 1 through 69.


This is the same idea as dealing cards from a shuffled pack. So all 
you need to do is take the set of numbers, shuffle them, and use as 
many as you require from the start of the shuffled list.


o Enter 1 into a spreadsheet cell.
o Fill down the column to 69.
o In a parallel column, enter =RAND() and fill that down too.
o Select both columns of cells.
o Go to Data | Sort... and sort on the column of random numbers.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Please help

[Maurice Howe]

Couldn't we, as I and others have suggested, write a routine (maybe call it
Reset Profile) that resets a user's profile?  This problems has taken up
more space  energy than any other, and seems so simply (on the surface,
anyway) to solve once and for all.

Maurice

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:19:46 -0600
 Norma Tech nht_t...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I don’t know what I have done,  but spellcheck is not working in my Open
 Office program.   Can you help me?
 
  Norma Tech
  nht_t...@yahoo.com
 
 
 You should start by deleting or renaming your OpenOffice user profile. As
 you are using Windows do this by:
 Close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open File Explorer. Copy and paste
 %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer Address Bar and press Enter.
 Rename the user folder. Start OpenOffice.
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Re: Please help

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:19:46 -0600
Norma Tech nht_t...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don’t know what I have done,  but spellcheck is not working in my Open 
 Office program.   Can you help me?
 
 Norma Tech
 nht_t...@yahoo.com
 
 
You should start by deleting or renaming your OpenOffice user profile. As you 
are using Windows do this by:
Close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open File Explorer. Copy and paste 
%appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer Address Bar and press Enter. Rename 
the user folder. Start OpenOffice.
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Re: Please advise

[Jim McLaughlin]

Please always provide version of your specific operating system and the
specific version of Open Office you are using whenever posting a  question.

The software for this message board strips off all attachments.  Thus, the
copy of your file which you attached has never and will never appear here.

What file extension is on the file you are sending to your friend.  Is it,
for example  .odt or .doc or .docx or .rtf or .txt or whatever?

The issue may be that your correspondent's system is unable to open and
read the file format which you are sending.

Did you initially save the document with a  password on your system.  AFIK,
that is the only way to protect a  document within OO.  If you did
initially save the document with a  password, use the password, open the
document, and resave the document without a password.

Detailed instructions on how to do that are contained in the Help File for
OO on your computer.  Press the F1 key to go to the help file.

A copy of the specific entry for protecting / unprotecting documents in OO
follows:

Protecting All Documents When Saving

All documents that are saved in OpenDocument format
vnd.sun.star.help://shared/text/shared/00/0021.xhp?Language=en-USSystem=WINUseDB=noDbPAR=swriter
can be saved with a password. Documents that are saved with a password
cannot be opened without the password. The content is secured so that it
cannot be read with an external editor. This applies to content, graphics
and OLE objects.

Turning on protection

Choose *File - Save As* and mark the *Save with password* check box. Save
the document.

Turning off protection

Open the document, entering the correct password. Choose *File - Save As*
and clear the *Save with password* check box.

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Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

[Urmas]

And mr. Rosenberg strikes again:

 Much of what you described seems to be related to your operating system
 rather than Apache OpenOffice.

There is nothing related to the operating system that can cause the
described behavior. Don't write nonsense.




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RE: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

[elderdanlewis]

   Why don't I believe you? Perhaps it is because I have been using this 
product since Star Office became available. I have used OpenOffice.org from 
version 1.0 to 3.3. I even used it to help write documentation for it. ( 
Writer) I have used a spreadsheet to keep track of my finances. Considering the 
number of linked sheets in it, I would never recommend anyone try this on a 
smart phone. I have also written an autobiography part that contains 83000 plus 
words and pics. Another contains 57000 plus words. Could I have done this with 
the early versions of OOo? No. The present versions have many more features 
than the earlier ones. Perhaps you have not taken the time to learn what the 
program can do.
   I am also helping a lady to write a document for her bridge group. It 
contains text, pics, bullets, and different heading levels. We are not having 
any problems doing it.
   So, seriously, what is your real problem? 

Dan 

 Original message 
From: Rebecca Eaton mousepol...@ymail.com 
Date:05/08/2015  4:43 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Please stop copying Microsoft!  They suck more every year! 

Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at least 15 
years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can remember, anyway).  I'm 
sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down quite a bit in the past 
few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying to copy Microsoft.  
Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for them.  Why not try to 
make things better than Microsoft?  If you just took these programs from ten 
years ago, and spruced them up a bit, that would pretty much do the trick.

Some examples:
Your word processor seems to have been redesigned for a smart phone.  Smart 
phones are for people who don't need to do huge amounts of research, cutting 
and pasting, formatting, etc.  You need to get some people to design things 
like word processors and spreadsheets who actually use them on a pretty much 
daily basis, because people who do all their typing on a phone can't imagine 
the things that we used to be able to do. 

The default should be that the things that I type stay exactly the way I typed 
them. In the early 2000's, it was annoying that it took one button to change 
this to the default.  Now it's actually impossible.   I' often have to actually 
change what I want to write in the document, because I can't stop the damn 
program from changing it.  I click on all kinds of boxes that say they will 
stop it, but they don't.  If you want to make the default be like a smartphone, 
could I please have one, easy to find button to click on, that says leave my 
goram typing the way I smegging well typed it.  Please, I'm begging.  I know A 
LOT of people agree with me about this, and I don't know why nobody's 
listening. 

When I used to right-click on something, the box would open in a location 
appropriate to the box.  Now it opens relative to the cursor.  This means that 
if what I've clicked on isn't at the top of the page, I can't paste, because 
the bottom of the box is below this stupid-ass see-through monstrosity of a 
taskbar at the bottom of the screen (where I've lost actual windows before, 
because I accidentally dragged them to the bottom of the screen, and it let me 
drag it down, but then wouldn't let me click on the document once it was under 
the taskbar).  So have to scroll down, and click again.

There are quite a few operations that I used to do with one or two clicks, that 
now take me four or five.  I would really like to have back the ability to 
right-click in the document and get the option for paste special.  I do this 
approximately a million times a day, and I curse you every time.  Not you 
personally, more programmers in general.

When I click on something, the document keeps jumping around to put that line 
more in the middle of the page.  I put that line right where I wanted it, so I 
can see all the lines I'm working on, and I don't want it to move.

The cursor doesn't disappear anymore when I'm typing, even though I've checked 
all the appropriate boxes.  This is so annoying.  I start typing, and then I 
can't see what I'm working on.


Seriously, this Windows 8 is so incredibly bad, it feels like the designers are 
just pooping on consumers.  That's not the word I'm really thinking...  It's 
obscene that they still control the market, when their product gets worse and 
worse every year.  There are so many functions that it doesn't do at all, and 
these m-f-ing pop-up things mean that I have to spend a lot of time carefully 
positioning the mouse so they won't all pop up, and make my freaking windows 
disappear, or make it impossible to click on what I need to click on.  Now is 
the perfect time to take them down.  I wish now that I'd kept up with my 
programming, because I think that I could easily write something better than 
Windows.  I have to think that this is 

Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2015-05-08 22:43 GMT+02:00 Rebecca Eaton mousepol...@ymail.com:

 Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at
 least 15 years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can remember,
 anyway).  I'm sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down quite a
 bit in the past few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying to
 copy Microsoft.  Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for
 them.  Why not try to make things better than Microsoft?  If you just took
 these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a bit, that would
 pretty much do the trick.

 Some examples:
 Your word processor seems to have been redesigned for a smart phone.
 Smart phones are for people who don't need to do huge amounts of research,
 cutting and pasting, formatting, etc.  You need to get some people to
 design things like word processors and spreadsheets who actually use them
 on a pretty much daily basis, because people who do all their typing on a
 phone can't imagine the things that we used to be able to do.

 The default should be that the things that I type stay exactly the way I
 typed them. In the early 2000's, it was annoying that it took one button to
 change this to the default.  Now it's actually impossible.   I' often have
 to actually change what I want to write in the document, because I can't
 stop the damn program from changing it.  I click on all kinds of boxes that
 say they will stop it, but they don't.  If you want to make the default be
 like a smartphone, could I please have one, easy to find button to click
 on, that says leave my goram typing the way I smegging well typed it.
 Please, I'm begging.  I know A LOT of people agree with me about this, and
 I don't know why nobody's listening.

 When I used to right-click on something, the box would open in a location
 appropriate to the box.  Now it opens relative to the cursor.  This means
 that if what I've clicked on isn't at the top of the page, I can't paste,
 because the bottom of the box is below this stupid-ass see-through
 monstrosity of a taskbar at the bottom of the screen (where I've lost
 actual windows before, because I accidentally dragged them to the bottom of
 the screen, and it let me drag it down, but then wouldn't let me click on
 the document once it was under the taskbar).  So have to scroll down, and
 click again.

 There are quite a few operations that I used to do with one or two clicks,
 that now take me four or five.  I would really like to have back the
 ability to right-click in the document and get the option for paste
 special.  I do this approximately a million times a day, and I curse you
 every time.  Not you personally, more programmers in general.

 When I click on something, the document keeps jumping around to put that
 line more in the middle of the page.  I put that line right where I wanted
 it, so I can see all the lines I'm working on, and I don't want it to move.

 The cursor doesn't disappear anymore when I'm typing, even though I've
 checked all the appropriate boxes.  This is so annoying.  I start typing,
 and then I can't see what I'm working on.


 Seriously, this Windows 8 is so incredibly bad, it feels like the
 designers are just pooping on consumers.  That's not the word I'm really
 thinking...  It's obscene that they still control the market, when their
 product gets worse and worse every year.  There are so many functions that
 it doesn't do at all, and these m-f-ing pop-up things mean that I have to
 spend a lot of time carefully positioning the mouse so they won't all pop
 up, and make my freaking windows disappear, or make it impossible to click
 on what I need to click on.  Now is the perfect time to take them down.  I
 wish now that I'd kept up with my programming, because I think that I could
 easily write something better than Windows.  I have to think that this is
 related to the fact that IT companies used to pay $70 an hour for geniuses,
 and now they're paying $20 an hour for recent graduates who don't really
 use computers to do anything except gaming and chatting.  No offense meant
 if you're
  one of these graduates, but you really want some people involved who
 spend a lot of time using the programs they design, for smarty-pants stuff.

 I think you people need to get together, and buy a few geniuses, and write
 something that fricking well works for people who aren't teenagers.  I know
 it's hard, when education is no longer a priority, and some government
 officials are actively fighting against it.  But you could even just take
 the best features from Windows 3.1 through Windows 98, and add the stuff
 that we need today, and it would be much, much better, without really
 needing to innovate.  I know this isn't in Apache's mandate, but maybe you
 know someone who could make this happen.  I'm so sick of this suckage.  I'm
 begging you, please stop going downhill right behind Microsoft.  They've
 given up on hiring good people, or 

Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

[jd1008]

On 05/10/2015 11:17 AM, Doug wrote:



On 05/10/2015 03:20 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2015-05-08 22:43 GMT+02:00 Rebecca Eaton mousepol...@ymail.com:


Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at
least 15 years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can 
remember,
anyway).  I'm sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down 
quite a
bit in the past few years, and I suspect that it's because you're 
trying to

copy Microsoft.  Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for
them.  Why not try to make things better than Microsoft?  If you 
just took
these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a bit, that 
would

pretty much do the trick.


/snip/


Much of what you described seems to be related to your operating system
rather than Apache OpenOffice. You are free to install another operating
system if you don't like the one you have. I also complained at lot 
about

that a long time ago, but finally I did something about it and installed
another operating system. Never looked back since then. Unfortunately 
the

one I installed also got worse over the years, so now I am planning to
install yet another one, I'm not quite sure which yet though. I think 
Arch

would be fine for me, at least I would give it a try.

I tried some of the things that you described, but I don't really get 
it.
For instance, when I right click on a spreadsheet, paste special is 
there,

you said it was not.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



Have you looked at PCLinuxOS, Johnny?  It's pretty conservative, and it
doesn't have systemd, thank heavens! It also has a really helpful Forum.
Now pay me, Tex!  (Just kidding--the endorsement is completely free!)

--doug

Hi Doug,
I installed PCLOS for a friend who got sick of windows malware always
invading his machine.

He was a very very happy camper with it, until the wifi
card went out. He did not know that, because he is no
techie, so he thought he had been invaded by malware.
So, I will be installing a new card in it for him.

I agree that one of the reasons why I chose pclos is that
it does not have systemd.

There is no question that linux is mimicking Windoze,
not to mention the huge bloatware apps.


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Re: Please stop copying Microsoft! They suck more every year!

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2015-05-10 19:17 GMT+02:00 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net:



 On 05/10/2015 03:20 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

 2015-05-08 22:43 GMT+02:00 Rebecca Eaton mousepol...@ymail.com:

  Hi there!  I've been using your spreadsheet and word processor for at
 least 15 years (unless you're not that old...  as long as I can remember,
 anyway).  I'm sorry to say that the usability of both has gone down
 quite a
 bit in the past few years, and I suspect that it's because you're trying
 to
 copy Microsoft.  Microsoft sucks so much, there are no polite words for
 them.  Why not try to make things better than Microsoft?  If you just
 took
 these programs from ten years ago, and spruced them up a bit, that would
 pretty much do the trick.


 /snip/

  Much of what you described seems to be related to your operating system
 rather than Apache OpenOffice. You are free to install another operating
 system if you don't like the one you have. I also complained at lot about
 that a long time ago, but finally I did something about it and installed
 another operating system. Never looked back since then. Unfortunately the
 one I installed also got worse over the years, so now I am planning to
 install yet another one, I'm not quite sure which yet though. I think Arch
 would be fine for me, at least I would give it a try.

 I tried some of the things that you described, but I don't really get it.
 For instance, when I right click on a spreadsheet, paste special is there,
 you said it was not.


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


 Have you looked at PCLinuxOS, Johnny?


Yes I have, but it was some years ago.


   It's pretty conservative, and it
 doesn't have systemd, thank heavens! It also has a really helpful Forum.
 Now pay me, Tex!  (Just kidding--the endorsement is completely free!)


Well, I'm not necessarily looking for conservative, I just want it to be
easy to do simple tasks. When I first installed the operating system I have
now, I was quite impressed. It was like ”wow, it works like I think an
operating system should work”. I can actually do things with this. The next
version was even better and for every new version there were some nice
improvements, but since 2011 it has been the other way around. Now, almost
most of the things that I liked from the beginning are gone. Things that
was simple to perform is still possible to do, but it's very much more
complicated. Some things I didn't even figure out yet. I saw some tutorials
and I tried them, but they simply didn't work… But all this is somewhat OFF
TOPIC, maybe there are better places to discus it…

Johnny Rosenberg




 --doug


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