[users] DRAW and PDF

[lionel seydoux]

Hello to all,

With Open office 3.0.0 and yesterday's bêta version of pdfimport running 
under Windows XP Pro SP3,
as I want to edit it I tred to load from a pdf document a page with a map 
apparently created by a vectorial drawing software.


It does load with a perfect precision of images.  But the one hundred or so 
elements are dissasembled and scattered all around.  I have to re-assemble 
them, fairly easy for maps (a simple puzzle), but takes time and impossible 
for many vectorial pics.


Hypothesis:
- a bug in pdfimport? I could not post a question in sun's bug report system 
which does not mention pdfimport

- a bug while translating this image to pdf?
- or a bug in myself (usually the most probable...)

I did not try with other pdf pictures, will report when I have time to do so

Bye

Lionel Seydoux
Goudissard, 05240 La Salle les Alpes, France
49 rue Auguste Comte, 69002 Lyon, France
lionel.seyd...@youla.eu;  +33 6 0779 3886 



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[users] Having dictionary problems in OOo 3.0.?

[James Elliott - WA Rural Computers]

After mucking around for three days I have finally managed to install and 
English (Australia) dictionary.


Here are the steps I followed which might be of some use to others who have 
lost their version 2.4, or earlier, dictionaries.  I use Windows XP and have 
installed the Australian dictionary, but you can make the necessary changes 
to install your own language dictionary under your own OS.


1.  Download the English (Australian) dictionary from:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/AustralianDictionary
(thanks, Manfred, for the URL)

2.  Save the dictionary file to a folder you can locate later.

3.  Open OOo Writer (ver 3.0)

4.  Click on:  Tools > Extension Manager > "ADD" button

5.  In the 'Open' dialogue box, navigate to the folder where you saved your 
dictionary file and double click on it (which will open it, and add it to 
the list in Extension Manager)


6.  Restart your computer

7.  Open OOo Writer 3.0

8.  Click on:  Tools > Options > Language Settings > Writing Aids > Edit, 
and select English (Australia) (make sure the Hunspell SpellChecker box is 
ticked)


9.  Close back to Language Settings, and this time click on Languages

10.  Configure Languages as below:

-- User interface:  Default
-- Locale setting:  English (Australia)
-- Decimal separator key:  tick 'same as locale setting'
-- Default currency: English (Australian)
-- Default languages for documents:  English (Australia)  (there should be a 
large tick before the words English (Australia) if the dictionary is 
properly installed)


This worked for me and I hope it helps someone else.

Kind regards,  James 



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[users] Re: OOo 3 upgrade?

[Richard]

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Le 01.12.2008 02:58, John Boyle a écrit :


To anyone: When is the first patch for version 3 due out? Is it 
January 2009? :-)



Yes, bugfix OOo 3.0.1 should be released around 15th January.

JBF



Super bug fix you mean.


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[users] Re: Please help!!

[Richard]

James Knott wrote:

chian...@juno.com wrote:

I have downloaded and installed OpenOffice 2.4 but I could not get to use it!  
The readme files never told me the steps to setup WRITER... and I could not 
find any of the applications (word processor, spreadsheet, and presentation). 
What a strange way of installing a package.  Would you please tell me where to 
find the steps leading to opening the 3 applications?

  

What operating system are you running?  On Windows, you simply download
the file, double click on it and after installations, the icons should
be in your start menu.  Also, version 3.0 is out now, which fixes a
problem with recent versions of Mac OS.




Stick with 2.4 more reliable when saving documents, new ver 3 does not 
auto save but you think it has. Powers that be appear disinterested in 
solving this problem immediately on our desktop, they believe its not 
important.



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Re: [users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:16:32 -0800
John Jason Jordan  dijo:

I keep trying different things. Just now I got it working. I renamed
the .openoffice config files for both 2.4.1 and 3.0, then launched 3.0.
It went through the registration thing and then the splash screen came
up. Afterwards everything is working fine.

However, this is not an acceptable solution. I have thousands of
settings in Autocorrect, thousands of technical terms in my dictionary,
and hundreds and hundreds of other configurations. Rebuilding all of
those would take days. Worse, every time I open an old document I will
be faced with styles that don't match and all kinds of other issues.

I'll keep playing with it.
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Re: [users] Organization Chart

[JOE Conner]

Justin Clark wrote:

To whom it may concern,
   I was wondering how to add organization charts to my powerpoint 
presentation. Also how would I add the template to my OpenOffice.org 
as it is on my flash drive as U3.


Rgds,
   malazar
Check out 
http://documentation.openoffice.org/servlets/Search?scope=project&resultsPerPage=40&query=ORGANIZATION+CHART&Button=Go


which gives organization chart construction procedures.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:25:56 -0800
NoOp  dijo:

> On 12/17/2008 05:07 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> 
> > 
> > So then I relaunched it with the intent of following through with the
> > error report instead of skipping it. I did so and the report was sent
> > off. This left me with the splash screen again. But instead of
> > immediately opening a Writer document I exited the program. My plan was
> > to clear out the error status. After closing it down I relaunched it.
> > My plan worked - the splash screen came up without the error message. I
> > clicked to open a Writer document, and it crashed again.
> > 
> > At this point I can't even launch it.
> 
> Sorry, JJ then I've no idea why it is crashing. Are you on a 32bit or
> 64bit Gnome system? If 64bit then perhaps M. Henri can help, but either
> way the instructions should have cleared out any problems that you had.
> Can you post the output of (terminal again):
> 
> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice

The computer is Intrepid x86_64 with Gnome.

I don't understand what you mean by posting the output of 
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice. That is the command to launch it.

However, I can post the error report that gets set to Sun:



http://openoffice.org/2002/errormail"; 
usertype="">
http://openoffice.org/2002/reportmail"; 
version="1.1" feedback="false" email="">




http://openoffice.org/2002/officeinfo"; 
build="300m9(Build:9358)" platform="unxlngx6.pro" language="" 
exceptiontype="11" product="OpenOffice.org 3.0" 
procpath="/opt/openoffice.org3/program/"/>
http://openoffice.org/2002/systeminfo";>

































































































There's nothing in it that makes any sense to me other than the first few 
lines. All the checksum errors make it look as though the files are corrupted, 
but dpkg installed everything without error.
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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[Fred A. Miller]

M. Fioretti wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 09:07:22 AM -0800, John Boyle wrote:
>> To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
>> YEAR :-) *
> 
> Same from me! Merry Christmas to all.

Same from here!!

Fred

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than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to
control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by
deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks
will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up
homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson, 1802

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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[M. Fioretti]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 09:07:22 AM -0800, John Boyle wrote:
> To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
> YEAR :-) *

Same from me! Merry Christmas to all.

Marco

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[users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 05:07 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> 
> So then I relaunched it with the intent of following through with the
> error report instead of skipping it. I did so and the report was sent
> off. This left me with the splash screen again. But instead of
> immediately opening a Writer document I exited the program. My plan was
> to clear out the error status. After closing it down I relaunched it.
> My plan worked - the splash screen came up without the error message. I
> clicked to open a Writer document, and it crashed again.
> 
> At this point I can't even launch it.

Sorry, JJ then I've no idea why it is crashing. Are you on a 32bit or
64bit Gnome system? If 64bit then perhaps M. Henri can help, but either
way the instructions should have cleared out any problems that you had.
Can you post the output of (terminal again):

/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice





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Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[James Knott]

Julio Sotolongo wrote:
> Thank you Brian and James. I tried printing my line and it was indeed
> straight. I knew it was simple. Unfortunately my friend purchased a
> copy of MSO before finding a solution. I will email him your input
> anyway. I told him it was possible to have both on his computer at the
> same time.

Since he's installing MS Office, he may be interested in the Sun ODF
plugin, which adds ODF support to MS Office.

Sun ODF Plugin:
http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin


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Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[Julio Sotolongo]

Thank you Brian and James. I tried printing my line and it was indeed 
straight. I knew it was simple. Unfortunately my friend purchased a copy 
of MSO before finding a solution. I will email him your input anyway. I 
told him it was possible to have both on his computer at the same time.
As to what part of MSO he was using I will have to ask him. After he 
told me I wondered myself.

20:36 17/12/2008 -0500, Julio Sotolongo wrote:
Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is 
for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo.
I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the 
documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide 
for drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my 
own. A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not 
continuously straight from end to end.
According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should 
be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated.


You may be confusing two things here.  Like most office products, 
OpenOffice Draw is geared towards creating printed output.  And if you 
print your document or export it to PDF, you may well find that your 
line is sufficiently straight.  But compared with most printers, your 
computer's screen has a comparatively coarse resolution, of course.  
And it is impossible within the limitations of the screen pixels to 
create an exactly straight line display.  So the screen image within 
Draw shows a poor imitation, but you may find the final printed or 
exported result satisfactory.


You can also get an idea of what is happening here if you change the 
zoom factor at View | Zoom... .  Your line will still be imperfect, 
but will be different in detail from before.  This demonstrates that 
it is the display of your line, rather than the line itself, which is 
the limitation.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[Brian Barker]

At 20:36 17/12/2008 -0500, Julio Sotolongo wrote:
Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is 
for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo.
I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the 
documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide 
for drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on 
my own. A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not 
continuously straight from end to end.
According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it 
should be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated.


You may be confusing two things here.  Like most office products, 
OpenOffice Draw is geared towards creating printed output.  And if 
you print your document or export it to PDF, you may well find that 
your line is sufficiently straight.  But compared with most printers, 
your computer's screen has a comparatively coarse resolution, of 
course.  And it is impossible within the limitations of the screen 
pixels to create an exactly straight line display.  So the screen 
image within Draw shows a poor imitation, but you may find the final 
printed or exported result satisfactory.


You can also get an idea of what is happening here if you change the 
zoom factor at View | Zoom... .  Your line will still be imperfect, 
but will be different in detail from before.  This demonstrates that 
it is the display of your line, rather than the line itself, which is 
the limitation.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[James Knott]

Julio Sotolongo wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but still the result is
> segments of straight lines, not continuously straight from end to end.

It's physically impossible to draw a perfectly straight line on a
computer monitor, as the display is composed of discrete units called
"pixels".  Is that what you're referring to?  I see those lines too, but
I have to look very closely to see them.  If that's what you're talking
about, then I doubt MS Office could do much better.  BTW, what component
of MS Office does your friend use, considering there's nothing
comparable to Draw in it?


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Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[Julio Sotolongo]

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but still the result is segments 
of straight lines, not continuously straight from end to end.

James Knott wrote:

Julio Sotolongo wrote:
  

 Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is
for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo.
I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the
documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for
drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own.
A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously
straight from end to end.
According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should
be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated.




Have you tried the "Lines and Arrows" button?


  




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Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[James Knott]

Julio Sotolongo wrote:
>  Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is
> for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo.
> I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the
> documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for
> drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own.
> A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously
> straight from end to end.
> According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should
> be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated.
>

Have you tried the "Lines and Arrows" button?


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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[James Knott]

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>
>> Gotta run.  I have to decide who I'm going to sacrifice for the
>> holidays.  ;-)
>>   
>
> Is that because you have been updating your list all year and you need
> to choose only one or two from the many on your list?
>
Yep, I made a list and now I have to check it twice.  ;-)


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[users] Draw: perfectly straight line

[Julio Sotolongo]

 Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is 
for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo.
I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the 
documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for 
drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own. A 
line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously 
straight from end to end.
According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should be 
simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated.


Julio Sotolongo

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Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?

[James Elliott - WA Rural Computers]

Hi Thomas

Thanks for that.

Regards,  James

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg" 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?




Hi James,

Better reask this question in  d...@lingucomponent.openoffice.org (see
http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org) since all the experts about
creating .aff and .dic files happen to be there.

Regards,
Thomas




James Elliott - WA Rural Computers wrote:

Thank you very much for your prompt reply, Hagar, but I am still at a 
loss

as to what to do.

I have read your tutorial but the following does not make sense to me:

"If you want to use custom files or old ones not yet packaged as an
extension, you can use an existing dictionary extension: open the .oxt 
file

with an archive manager (it's a mere zipped file), remove the language
files, replace them with yours and then edit the dictionary.xcu file to
replace the locales and file names, edit also the description.xml file to
make it different for the extensions list in the manager and install that
custom extension".

I understand that I can download an Australian dictionary, but I am at a
loss as to how to include all the additional words I have added over the
years.  Even though I have an IT degree I would appreciate some help in
layman's terms, as I am not too bright and also do not have much time to
devote to OOo configuration during my busy work day.

Many thanks

James

James Elliott BSc(WA) MAACB MAIMS GradDipCompSt(Murdoch) CertCompEng
CertTradeSt Cert4TAA(TAFE) TradeCert(WAGovt)  JP
e-mail:  james.elli...@wn.com.au


- Original Message - 
From: "Hagar de l'Est" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?



Yes, it has changed, see here:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=67
You've to install them as extensions now.

But your custom dictionary is still valid, just copy it in your new
profile /wordbook subfolder.

Hagar


Le 14.12.2008 06:04, James Elliott - WA Rural Computers a écrit :



When I upgrade to a new version of OOo I copy my Dict file from the
previous version so that, in the new version, I will have:

1. the Australian dictionary as default dictionary;
2. all the words I have added to the dictionary over the years.

The "Dict" folder is not where I expected to find it and, in fact, I
have not been able to find it. Has the way OOo handles its dictionaries
changed? How does one copy across previously added words to the OOo 3.0
Dictionary?

Kind regards, James

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Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?

[James Elliott - WA Rural Computers]

Hi Brian

With regard to: "Just as you would expect, if you have so far not installed 
it."; it might help if you described how to install it, instead of making 
smart Alec remarks.


"Until you perform the necessary installation, nothing will improve,
of course.  Do I hear you saying that you don't have time to work this out 
but implying that others might find that time on your behalf?  Hmmm..."


"Hmmm", indeed!  For what it is worth, what I meant is that after spending 
several hours a day for three consecutive days, without any useful help from 
the list, I could not justify taking any more time out of my work ("work" 
being that which puts bread on my family's table).  No ... I do not expect 
anyone else to put in the time I have devoted to this matter, namely 12 
hours over three days.  What I expect is that if this IS a COMMUNITY of like 
minded people, perhaps one of them could take a moment to point me in the 
right direction without denigrating my character, or attempting to start a 
flame war.


As you premised: "> I don't think you can have been following this list for 
the last few
months without picking up the fact that dictionaries are handled 
differently in version 3".
I have not been following the list for a while, as I have been overseas. 
So, if one cannot access the list for a while, then one is no longer welcome 
to post queries - is that what you are saying?


"If you didn't know where to find this dictionary - as I didn't, of
course - you could find it by going to Tools | Extension Manager..., 
following the "Get more extensions here..." link, and either browsing to 
what you need or doing a search on "Australian".
I tried that and the only two options were English(UK) and English(US), and 
the only option was to "Remove", not add new ones, but I have obviously 
missed something.  Over the Christmas-New-Year break I will have some free 
time and I will look into this further, probably without help from the list.


How can someone who is starting a flame can end with: "I trust this helps", 
beggars belief - It does not,  In fact it diminishes the whole community. 
Even M$ are polite in dealing with queries, even if the often, but not 
always, charge for doing so.


James







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From: "Brian Barker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?



At 18:21 15/12/2008 +0900, James Elliott wrote:
You finished with: "I trust this helps" - sorry, I must be really thick, 
because it actually does not help, but thanks for trying.


Well, if the remaining problem had been that you had lost your additional 
words, as you suggested, it may well have.



I found "standard.dic" ...
... it seems that my Standard.dic has carried over, like yours did.


So you do have your additional words and have no need for the workaround.


There is no English(Australia) dictionary to select


You mean you have still not installed one?

The net result of all of this is that, in Writer, I have no dictionary at 
all, ...


Just as you would expect, if you have so far not installed it.

... I am so busy at the moment that I do not have time to research and 
play with it any further, ...


Until you perform the necessary installation, nothing will improve, of 
course.  Do I hear you saying that you don't have time to work this out 
but implying that others might find that time on your behalf?  Hmmm...


All previous upgrades have been a dream - this one is a bit of a disaster. 
You don't realise how much you depend on your spellchecker until you don't 
have one.


I don't think you can have been following this list for the last few 
months without picking up the fact that dictionaries are handled 
differently in version 3.


o  Go to http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/1232 and download 
the English Australian Dictionary (27 November version) in its new form. 
Put the .oxt file somewhere that you can keep it.
o  Double-click the .oxt file to run OpenOffice's Extension Manager and 
follow the instructions to install the dictionary.
o  While you are there, you may wish to disable any installed dictionaries 
that you know you will not need.
o  Now tinker appropriately with the language and dictionary settings in 
Tools | Options... (and possibly in existing documents).


If you didn't know where to find this dictionary - as I didn't, of 
course - you could find it by going to Tools | Extension Manager..., 
following the "Get more extensions here..." link, and either browsing to 
what you need or doing a search on "Australian".


I trust *this* helps.  ;^)

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:59:26 -0800
NoOp  dijo:

> Let's start over to see if we can get you back on track. *Nothing below
> will have any effect on your exisiting 2.4.1 installation.*
> 
> Uninstall 3.0.
> 
> Note: We'll backup your OOo 3.0 profile so that you can still use it
> with the reinstall. However, if OOo 3.0 is still crashing afterwards,
> then I'd delete ~/.openoffice.org2 and start with a fresh profile.
> 
> 1. In Synaptic search for 'ooo'. Click the 'S' column header (S Package
> Installed Version). That will bring the 'installed' packages to the top
> (green boxes filled in). Click on the first 3.0 package (oobasis3.0...
> is most likely), hold the Shift key down and scroll down to the last 3.0
> package & click it. That will select all of the install 3.0 packages.
> Right-click and "Mark for complete removal". Click Apply and when
> finished exit Synaptic.
> 
> 2. Open a terminal and backup your .openoffice.org files:
> 
> cp -r ~/.openoffice.org ~/x-.openoffice.org-x
> 
> [that makes a copy of your 2.4.1 profile]
> 
> cp -r ~/.openoffice.org2 ~/x-.openoffice.org2-x
> 
> [that makes a copy of your 3.0 profile]
> 
> gksu nautilus
> 
> [that opens nautilus in superuser mode]
> 
> 3. In superuser mode of Nautilus, go to the /opt folder (File System)
> and delete /opt/openoffice.org and /opt/openoffice.org3. Both of those
> folders are for 3.0. If you have any other OOo folders (example:
> /ooo-dev /ooo-dev3) delete those as well.
> 
> Exit the superuser mode of Nautilus.
> 
> 4. Return to the terminal and cd to where the OOo 3.0 deb files are and
> reinstall:
> 
> cd ~/jjj/Software/OOo/DEBS/
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> 
> Now go to "2 Creating A Launcher" in
> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
> and create a simple menu launcher for OOo 3.0. Test.

Thanks for the detailed instructions. I followed them to the letter.
When I used the soffice launcher that I created a window popped up
telling me that I should file an error report with OOo. I told it to
skip the report. It then displayed the splash screen. I clicked to open
a Writer document, whereupon it crashed completely. 

That is exactly the state it was in before I purged everything and
reinstalled with your instructions.

Since I had the backups of the config files I decided to
rename .openoffice.org2 just to see if the config file is the source of
the trouble. Supposedly it will generate a new one. However, when I
relaunched it I couldn't get it to stay up long enough to create a new
config file.

So then I relaunched it with the intent of following through with the
error report instead of skipping it. I did so and the report was sent
off. This left me with the splash screen again. But instead of
immediately opening a Writer document I exited the program. My plan was
to clear out the error status. After closing it down I relaunched it.
My plan worked - the splash screen came up without the error message. I
clicked to open a Writer document, and it crashed again.

At this point I can't even launch it.
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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

James Knott wrote:

John Boyle wrote:
  

To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
YEAR :-) *

  


In view of the fact that the church "borrowed" pagan or Roman holidays
  


I am guessing that  more accurate take on this is

All those people sure have fun celebrating huggle snort. I sure wish 
that we could celebrate huggle snort. I mean, we used to do that before 
we got "saved" This whole Christian thing sure is boring.




Hey, lets celebrate the birth of Christ during huggle snort.



Gotta run.  I have to decide who I'm going to sacrifice for the
holidays.  ;-)
  


Is that because you have been updating your list all year and you need 
to choose only one or two from the many on your list?


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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[James Knott]

John Boyle wrote:
> To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
> YEAR :-) *
>
>   
In view of the fact that the church "borrowed" pagan or Roman holidays
and called them Christmas, Happy Saturnalia.  Might as well celebrate
the original, instead of the hijacked version.  Or perhaps celebrate
Yule if you desire.  Both of these are based on the winter solstice,
which the church then stole and passed off as "Christ's" birthday, to
make it easier for "pagans" to convert.  The ancient Britons at
Stonehenge seemed to be a bit interested in the solstice too, a couple
of thousand or so years before Christ (if he even existed).  Do a bit
more research and you'll find the whole nativity scene, virgin birth
etc., to be just some more nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

Gotta run.  I have to decide who I'm going to sacrifice for the
holidays.  ;-)

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 'free'?

[Harold Fuchs]

On 14/12/2008 17:27, Gillian Steedman wrote:

I have discovered that your Office XP Pro is an OEM (original equipment
manufacturer) package that is only available to companies who build
computers, such as your friends at Aber.ac
  


This is completely wrong *or* you are talking to the wrong people. 
Please read on below.
 


For the time being, rather than spending any money on fairly expensive
upgrades, I have just downloaded the OpenOffice.org
  software suite which should do everything you
need.  It is completely compatible with Word etc and you can even save in
those formats.

  
OpenOffice is free to download and free to use on as many computers as 
you like in any context you like - business, personal, education etc. 
Support is also free via this mail list which is run by users who 
volunteer time to help other users. Documentation is also free via the 
web site. You should always download the software from 
www.openoffice.org where you will also find the documentation.
 


You can give it a try, at least, and if you don't get on with it buy the
Office 2007 Home version.

  
Don't buy OpenOffice. I think the thing you call "Office 2007 Home 
version" is *Microsoft Office* which is very definitely not free; nor is 
its documentation; nor is its support.
 


I will also shortly (30 days max) have to upgrade my antivirus software and
have decided to get the combined ZoneAlarm

Antivirus & Firewall software.  

 
  
There is a perfectly good version of ZoneAlarm which is *free*. It only 
does the firewall part of your security. For a good *free* anti virus 
package, try AVG. I've been using both of those for years now on Windows 
XP and they work very well.

I will be getting a licence for 3 PCs - the same price as two single
licences - as I need one for my laptop and one for my PC.  Ian doesn't need
one (he has another year to run on his), so you can have the spare!

  

You don't need licences for any of the above.


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Re: [users] Slightly OT: Microsoft Office to open up to rival formats

[James Knott]

Web Kracked wrote:
> Manfred J. Krause wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 13:29, James Knott wrote:
>>   
>>> Harold Fuchs wrote:
>>> 
 http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39365418,00.htm


   
>>> It remains to be seen how well they do that.  However, that's old news,
>>> that was announced quite some time ago.  I wonder how their ODF support
>>> will compare with the Sun ODF plugin?
>>> 
>>
>> Some further links (for those who are interested in Microsoft's road
>> of ODF [1.1] implementation)
>> ->
>>
>> (1)
>> December 16, 2008
>> ODF 1.1 Implementer Notes for Office 2007 SP2
>> [Document Interoperability Initiative]
>> 
>>
>> (2)
>> Doug Mahugh - Guiding principles for Office's ODF implementation
>> [Published 05 August 08]
>> 
>>
>> (3)
>> MSDN > Forums Home > Open Specifications >
>> Office Open Document Format Implementation
>> [Discuss technical content and implementation of the Office
>> implementation of the ODF 1.1 standard] -
>> [opened 2008-12-15]
>> 
>>
>> (4)
>> OASIS ODF 1.1
>> 
>>
>> (5)
>> OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>> 
>>
>> Manfred
>>   
> Well, it is good to see MS "working" on a promise they made in the spring.
> In New York State (USA), our lawmakers stated some time ago that they
> will be required to have all electronic documents stored/published in an
> "Open File Format".  With the economy crash, I wonder how long it will
> now take.  BUT, the commitment to move away from a MS document format
> to an open format is encouraging for me.
>
> Since many of the government agencies of the state has not converted over
> to the MS Office 2007 package, and cannot use the service pack to
> read/write
> the ODF files it is proposed to be able to do, I hope that the budget
> crunch will
> require the move to OpenOffice.org.  The databases are still the
> problem, but
> most of the database use I have seen has been via a web browser format to
> some central location.  This does not involve the MS Access formats.
>
> So it would be nice to see the move.  Of course there is the SUN addon.
> I have used it in the past on XP, and I may download it again for this
> Vista
> install, but I hardly ever use MS and it is just as easy to read the
> doc file
> in OOo 3.x that have MS convert/export/save it in ODT.
>
> Great job on the links Manfred.
>
> Tim L.
> retired and tired of Microsoft
User of older MS Office versions can use the Sun ODF plugin for ODF
support.  Of course the best solution is to use OpenOffice.org or Star
Office.

Sun ODF Plugin:
http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin

I found the one article about how MS will implement ODF to be
interesting.  They say they won't create proprietary extensions or
otherwise break ODF.  We'll see how well they follow through.



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Re: [users] Unable to enter default printer name

[James Knott]

J O'Connor wrote:
> Please tell me where to enter a printer name for OO writer. When it informs 
> me that it can't find the default printer and I click "ok", it takes me to a 
> dialog box which doesn't allow me to enter anything.   
>  
>   

Please advise what operating system you're running.  There are versions
of OpenOffice.org for Linux, Windows, Mac, Solaris, BSD and OS/2.


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Re: [users] Apple Works

[James Knott]

ben.tay...@selu.edu wrote:
> I've had your program recommended as a way to open documents in Apple Works. 
> I down loaded OpenOffice and can find no way to do this. Apple Works does not 
> come up buy doing a search. The "Professional Assistance" referenced on your 
> website is a two-way radio company in Baton Rouge. 
>
> Is it possible to get some assistance? If not, is it possible to get my money 
> back?  Ben
>   

I've never heard of OpenOffice working with Apple Works, though some
versions can open Microsoft Works files. You don't have to pay for
OpenOffice.org, as it is a free download from www.openoffice.org. So,
you'll have to contact whoever you paid or failing that try for a refund
through your credit card company. While it is legal for someone to sell
OpenOffice.org, I find those who provide nothing other than a download
to be unethical. Many of those "vendors" pass off this mail list as
their support. The help here is provided by volunteers, who try to help
other users and we are not paid for our efforts.

There is a lot of useful information available from www.openoffice.org
(click on the "Support" tab), which is the official site for OpenOffice.org.


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Re: [users] Fw: Latest Version of Open Office

[James Knott]

Ron Wickerham wrote:
> Dear Open Office:
>  
> Twice I have receiving an email, the latest below, claiming there is an 
> update available for your 3.0 product, which I have.  I went to the link and 
> the webpage that opens looks like one of yours, but I'm not sure if this is 
> really yours and from you.  Will you please reseach and let me know?
>  
>   

That is not the OpenOffice.org site.  It appears someone is trying to
get you to buy it.  You are never asked for information, when you
download from www.openoffice.org.  It is also free.  My advice is to
stay away from that site.

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Re: [users] screen freezing in 3.0

[James Knott]

fatboy-msg-site wrote:
> Sirs
>
> Hope this is the correct address,   if not please could you give the correct 
> one
>
> I have a problem with open office 3.0 with my screen freezing in different 
> programs and i have to manually force my labtop to close down when i re start 
> i have lost my text, and i can not restore it because i have not been able to 
>   saved it, this is intermittent, I have Windows Vista, my labtop is Toshiba 
> P200 series. with Norton
>
> This is all new to me, I have only had it a short time, a computer virgin at 
> 63yrs.
>
> Your comments / help   please
>   

Does this problem only occur when you're using OpenOffice.org?  Or any
application?


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Re: [users] Query Ref. Excel

[James Knott]

Hugh Morrison wrote:
> Dear Sirs
>
> I would like to use a pc which has linux. Currently I have devised a number 
> of spreadsheets using microsoft Excel (2003) which I can convert to 2007 
> easily.
>
> I would like to know if I can simply read the excel 2003/2007 file and use 
> the spreadsheet with all the formulas, using open office?
>
>   

Version 3.0 should be able to open those files.  If your Linux distro
doesn't have that version available, you can get it from www.openoffice.org.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice 'free'?

[James Knott]

Gillian Steedman wrote:
> I have discovered that your Office XP Pro is an OEM (original equipment
> manufacturer) package that is only available to companies who build
> computers, such as your friends at Aber.ac
>
>  
>
> For the time being, rather than spending any money on fairly expensive
> upgrades, I have just downloaded the OpenOffice.org
>   software suite which should do everything you
> need.  It is completely compatible with Word etc and you can even save in
> those formats.
>
>  
>
> You can give it a try, at least, and if you don't get on with it buy the
> Office 2007 Home version.
>
>  
>   

I'm not sure what you're saying here or even if your email was sent to
the correct address.  However, you are correct in that OpenOffice.org is
a free download from www.openoffice.org.


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[users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 12:29 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:32:56 -0800
> NoOp  dijo:
> 
>> On 12/17/2008 12:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> > I'm about to give up. 
>> [snip]
>> > 
>> > Note that this is an additional install of 3.0. It is not an upgrade
>> > replacing 2.4.1. OOo 2.4.1 is still installed, and I dare not uninstall
>> > it considering the instability and bugs in 3.0.
>> > 
>> > I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.
>> 
>> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
>> 
>> Note:
>> 
>> This guide shows how you can install the new OpenOffice 3.0.0 office
>> suite on your Ubuntu 8.04 desktop. Your current OpenOffice installation
>> will not be removed unless you uninstall it with Synaptic or on the
>> command line, so you can run both versions in parallel if you like.
>> 
>> 
>> Don't uninstall 2.4.1. After "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" skip directly to
>> "2 Creating A Launcher". The instructions before that are only if you
>> have uninstalled (U)OOo.
>> 
>> Note that there are 2 pages of instructions.
> 
> Those are the instructions I followed in order to install OOo 3.0,
> leaving 2.4.1 installed as well. The dpkg command executed without
> error, except that no launch entries were created. But those were easy
> to create manually.
> 
> I think some of my problems are due to the fact that I have been
> launching Writer directly without launching the splash screen first.
> 
> Other problems may be due to the fact that you cannot install the Gnome
> desktop integration package unless you uninstall 2.4.1. 
> 
> Lately I have been starting it with the splash screen first, then
> Writer, but it still crashes hourly. When I restart it sometimes it
> cannot even recover the document. That is, if I tell it to recover the
> document it just crashes trying to recover it.
> 
> I'm beginning to see why Ubuntu creates an Ubuntuized version before
> they put it in the repositories.

I've not had a single crash w/3.0 or 3.0.1(dev)... yet, once I
reinstalled with a clean /opt. I _did_ experience crashes and other odd
bits when I first installed and failed to completely remove/purge my old
/opt dev installs. Perhaps I've been lucky as I have the following
installed on this machine (32bit Hardy) and they all work pretty well
for me so far:

(Ubuntu)OOo 2.4.1
OOo 2.4.2
OOo 3.0
OOo 3.0.1 (dev)
StarOffice 8/11 and SO 9 (beta)


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[users] Re: Go-oo is a No-Go

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 02:57 PM, NoOp wrote:

> 
> As does the embedded README.LWP in the
> ftp://ftp.lotus.com/pub/lotusweb/product/smartsuite/Kvlotus.exe
> file. That one reads like:
> 
> ReadmeHow to oUse KeyView for Lotus to:View and print Lotus SmartSuView
> Lotus SmartSuUpgrade to KeyView ProEnjoInstantly view almost any file
> you receive electronically, even if you do not have the application that
> created it. CorelHTMLUse KeWatch and listen to multimedia (video and
> sound) files.Open groups of files in multiple formats quickly and
> easily.Convert word
> 
> So it's not quite perfect, but the data is there.

Well... not perfect at all, as when I use the new Lotus Symphony (linux)
1.0.0, the same readme.lwp comes up perfectly. Formating is in place.
Graphics work. Bolding & coloring work, etc. etc. Big difference.

S you might want to see if you can tune Symphony so it is stable
on your system. I have it running on an Ubuntu Intrepid laptop with only
800Mhz/384MB of RAM in the machine and it's pretty stable there. I'm
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Re: [users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:32:56 -0800
NoOp  dijo:

> On 12/17/2008 12:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > I'm about to give up. 
> [snip]
> > 
> > Note that this is an additional install of 3.0. It is not an upgrade
> > replacing 2.4.1. OOo 2.4.1 is still installed, and I dare not uninstall
> > it considering the instability and bugs in 3.0.
> > 
> > I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.
> 
> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
> 
> Note:
> 
> This guide shows how you can install the new OpenOffice 3.0.0 office
> suite on your Ubuntu 8.04 desktop. Your current OpenOffice installation
> will not be removed unless you uninstall it with Synaptic or on the
> command line, so you can run both versions in parallel if you like.
> 
> 
> Don't uninstall 2.4.1. After "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" skip directly to
> "2 Creating A Launcher". The instructions before that are only if you
> have uninstalled (U)OOo.
> 
> Note that there are 2 pages of instructions.

Those are the instructions I followed in order to install OOo 3.0,
leaving 2.4.1 installed as well. The dpkg command executed without
error, except that no launch entries were created. But those were easy
to create manually.

I think some of my problems are due to the fact that I have been
launching Writer directly without launching the splash screen first.

Other problems may be due to the fact that you cannot install the Gnome
desktop integration package unless you uninstall 2.4.1. 

Lately I have been starting it with the splash screen first, then
Writer, but it still crashes hourly. When I restart it sometimes it
cannot even recover the document. That is, if I tell it to recover the
document it just crashes trying to recover it.

I'm beginning to see why Ubuntu creates an Ubuntuized version before
they put it in the repositories.

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[users] presentation runs very slow when leaves/enters the text frame

[Eric Fisher]

Hello,

I run into a problem as I use openoffice in the first time.
Presentation runs very slow when leaves/enters the text frame. The
version is OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 OOO300m9(Build:9358). Can anyone tell
me the possible reasons? Swap space is 1G.

Thanks!

Eric Fisher
Dec 17 2008

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[users] Unable to enter default printer name

[J O'Connor]

Please tell me where to enter a printer name for OO writer. When it informs me 
that it can't find the default printer and I click "ok", it takes me to a 
dialog box which doesn't allow me to enter anything.   
 
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[users] Apple Works

[Ben . Taylor]

I've had your program recommended as a way to open documents in Apple Works. I 
down loaded OpenOffice and can find no way to do this. Apple Works does not 
come up buy doing a search. The "Professional Assistance" referenced on your 
website is a two-way radio company in Baton Rouge. 

Is it possible to get some assistance? If not, is it possible to get my money 
back?  Ben


Ben Taylor, Recycling Manager
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ben.tay...@selu.edu
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[users] Fw: Latest Version of Open Office

[Ron Wickerham]

Dear Open Office:
 
Twice I have receiving an email, the latest below, claiming there is an update 
available for your 3.0 product, which I have.  I went to the link and the 
webpage that opens looks like one of yours, but I'm not sure if this is really 
yours and from you.  Will you please reseach and let me know?
 
Thank you,
 
Ron

Make it a great day, everyday!

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- Improved and advanced options for MS Office
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Also receive our award winning PDF Reader as a free Gift.

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Re: [users] PDF export in 3.0

[John Jason Jordan]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:17:09 -0800
Russ Fineman  dijo:

> On Sunday 14 December 2008 19:01:51 John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can
> > someone point me to it?

> There are apparently some problems with Okular and printing PDF files. I am 
> on 
> openSUSE11.0 and working on a problem with Okular, if I open a pdf with 
> Okular, the print options (margins, paper size etc are wrong. When I go to 
> advanced options, and it prints black only). If I do a pdftops conversion 
> then 
> open the ps file with Okular, it prints fine, options etc are all correct. 
> 
> It appears to be a QT problem. I have reported it to QT . Also see kde bug 
> 177360. 

Okular's print dialog boxes are a mess. I just gave up on it
completely. I love Okular, but I won't use it for anything I am going
to have to print until there is a major upgrade to address the print
problems.

I also have Evince and Adobe Reader 8.1. Evince printed the troublesome
file perfectly. Adobe Reader printed random characters scattered on the
page like throwing a pinch of black pepper onto a sheet of paper. But
Adobe Reader did display the file perfectly. That is weird.

Eventually I found that Adobe Reader would print the file correctly if
I unchecked "Save Printer Memory." At this time I think the problem
lies in upgrades to CUPS that occurred when I upgraded Hardy to
Intrepid. In other words, the problem does not appear to be in OOo. 

So I withdraw my question to the list. 

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[users] write

[Milad Pasta]

Hi,

I would like to know how to write in persian with open office writer,

Thanks for helping me,

Best regards,

Milad



  

[users] screen freezing in 3.0

[fatboy-msg-site]

Sirs

Hope this is the correct address,   if not please could you give the correct one

I have a problem with open office 3.0 with my screen freezing in different 
programs and i have to manually force my labtop to close down when i re start i 
have lost my text, and i can not restore it because i have not been able to   
saved it, this is intermittent, I have Windows Vista, my labtop is Toshiba P200 
series. with Norton

This is all new to me, I have only had it a short time, a computer virgin at 
63yrs.

Your comments / help   please

Thank you

George Byers

[users] Organization Chart

[Justin Clark]

To whom it may concern,
   I was wondering how to add organization charts to my powerpoint 
presentation. Also how would I add the template to my OpenOffice.org as 
it is on my flash drive as U3.


Rgds,
   malazar

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[users] OpenOffice 'free'?

[Gillian Steedman]

I have discovered that your Office XP Pro is an OEM (original equipment
manufacturer) package that is only available to companies who build
computers, such as your friends at Aber.ac

 

For the time being, rather than spending any money on fairly expensive
upgrades, I have just downloaded the OpenOffice.org
  software suite which should do everything you
need.  It is completely compatible with Word etc and you can even save in
those formats.

 

You can give it a try, at least, and if you don't get on with it buy the
Office 2007 Home version.

 

I will also shortly (30 days max) have to upgrade my antivirus software and
have decided to get the combined ZoneAlarm

Antivirus & Firewall software.  

 

I will be getting a licence for 3 PCs - the same price as two single
licences - as I need one for my laptop and one for my PC.  Ian doesn't need
one (he has another year to run on his), so you can have the spare!

 

TTFN

xxx

Re: [users] Another damn Word file problem

[John Jason Jordan]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:08:14 -0800
JOE Conner  dijo:

> > Can anyone get this to work? Better yet, can anyone think of a way to
> > do it natively in Writer?
  
> I could open it only with notepad, which is not much help as the 
> document is mostly unprintable symbols.  Wordpad failed as did OOo.

Thanks for trying. Luckily I'm close to recreating it in Writer. 

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[users] Query Ref. Excel

[Hugh Morrison]

Dear Sirs

I would like to use a pc which has linux. Currently I have devised a number of 
spreadsheets using microsoft Excel (2003) which I can convert to 2007 easily.

I would like to know if I can simply read the excel 2003/2007 file and use the 
spreadsheet with all the formulas, using open office?

Regards

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[users] Re: Go-oo is a No-Go

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 02:52 PM, NoOp wrote:

>> 
> 
> Thanks! I also found one here:
> ftp://ftp.lotus.com/pub/lotusweb/product/smartsuite/
> 
> and I can open that one just fine. The basic contents are along the
> lines of:
> 
> Lotus Word Pro for OS/2 Warp 4 Release 1.5
> README.TXT

As does the embedded README.LWP in the
ftp://ftp.lotus.com/pub/lotusweb/product/smartsuite/Kvlotus.exe
file. That one reads like:

ReadmeHow to oUse KeyView for Lotus to:View and print Lotus SmartSuView
Lotus SmartSuUpgrade to KeyView ProEnjoInstantly view almost any file
you receive electronically, even if you do not have the application that
created it. CorelHTMLUse KeWatch and listen to multimedia (video and
sound) files.Open groups of files in multiple formats quickly and
easily.Convert word

So it's not quite perfect, but the data is there.



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[users] Re: Go-oo is a No-Go

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 02:46 PM, kirk_2892 wrote:
> 
> NoOp-4 wrote:
>> 
>> Reason for asking (it can be a test file so no important info) is that I
>> have various versions of OOo (linux and Windows) that do claim to open
>> lwp files. Problem is that I don't have an lwp file to test with. If I
>> don't have a file to test, then I can't open a bug :-)
>> 
> 
> OK, duh, I am a little slow today.
> 
> I'll get you one sent.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kirk
> 

Thanks! I also found one here:
ftp://ftp.lotus.com/pub/lotusweb/product/smartsuite/

and I can open that one just fine. The basic contents are along the
lines of:

Lotus Word Pro for OS/2 Warp 4 Release 1.5
README.TXT

(c) Copyright 1999 Lotus Development Corporation. All rights reserved.

This file contains important information that supplements the
printed documentation and online Help for Word Pro. Refer to the
SmartSuite for OS/2 Warp 4 README.TXT file for information about
installing and launching Word Pro. The SmartSuite README.TXT file
is located in the root directory of the SmartSuite CD-ROM, and in
the Lotus Assistance Center folder after you've installed
SmartSuite.


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Re: [users] Go-oo is a No-Go

[kirk_2892]

NoOp-4 wrote:
> 
> Reason for asking (it can be a test file so no important info) is that I
> have various versions of OOo (linux and Windows) that do claim to open
> lwp files. Problem is that I don't have an lwp file to test with. If I
> don't have a file to test, then I can't open a bug :-)
> 

OK, duh, I am a little slow today.

I'll get you one sent.

Thanks,

Kirk

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[users] Re: Go-oo is a No-Go

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 01:44 PM, kirk_2892 wrote:
> 
> NoOp-4 wrote:
>> 
>> Anyway, if you'd like to send an .lwp file my way (off-list), I'll be
>> happy to see if I can get it opened for you.
>> 
> 
> Thanks for the offer. I actually have Smartsuite installed, so I can open
> the files, but am looking for a long term solution for the hundreds of files
> that go back to Ami-Pro.
> 
> I keep hoping that something will be able to import those files in a
> reasonable manner.
> 
> I saw a link to a batch converter for LWP in another thread, and that would
> work for me, except when I downloaded the file, the script crashes Word Pro
> on my machine.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kirk
> 

Reason for asking (it can be a test file so no important info) is that I
have various versions of OOo (linux and Windows) that do claim to open
lwp files. Problem is that I don't have an lwp file to test with. If I
don't have a file to test, then I can't open a bug :-)



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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[Harold Fuchs]

2008/12/17 M Henri Day 

> 2008/12/17 John Boyle 
>
> > To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
> > YEAR :-) *
> >
> > --
> > Old Sarge-John Boyle
>
>
> And a pleasant winter solstice to you, too !...
>
> Henri
>

And a Happy Chanukah!

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[users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 01:06 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:32:56 -0800
> NoOp  dijo:
> 
>> On 12/17/2008 12:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> > I'm about to give up. 
>> [snip]
>> > 
>> > Note that this is an additional install of 3.0. It is not an upgrade
>> > replacing 2.4.1. OOo 2.4.1 is still installed, and I dare not uninstall
>> > it considering the instability and bugs in 3.0.
>> > 
>> > I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.
>> 
>> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
>> 
>> Note:
>> 
>> This guide shows how you can install the new OpenOffice 3.0.0 office
>> suite on your Ubuntu 8.04 desktop. Your current OpenOffice installation
>> will not be removed unless you uninstall it with Synaptic or on the
>> command line, so you can run both versions in parallel if you like.
>> 
>> 
>> Don't uninstall 2.4.1. After "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" skip directly to
>> "2 Creating A Launcher". The instructions before that are only if you
>> have uninstalled (U)OOo.
>> 
>> Note that there are 2 pages of instructions.
> 
> Those are the instructions I followed in order to install OOo 3.0,
> leaving 2.4.1 installed as well. The dpkg command executed without
> error, except that no launch entries were created. But those were easy
> to create manually.
> 
> I think some of my problems are due to the fact that I have been
> launching Writer directly without launching the splash screen first.
> 
> Other problems may be due to the fact that you cannot install the Gnome
> desktop integration package unless you uninstall 2.4.1. 
> 
> Lately I have been starting it with the splash screen first, then
> Writer, but it still crashes hourly. When I restart it sometimes it
> cannot even recover the document. That is, if I tell it to recover the
> document it just crashes trying to recover it.
> 
> I'm beginning to see why Ubuntu creates an Ubuntuized version before
> they put it in the repositories.

If you had any previous 3.x versions installed, purge before you install
the regular 3.0.

Let's start over to see if we can get you back on track. *Nothing below
will have any effect on your exisiting 2.4.1 installation.*

Uninstall 3.0.

Note: We'll backup your OOo 3.0 profile so that you can still use it
with the reinstall. However, if OOo 3.0 is still crashing afterwards,
then I'd delete ~/.openoffice.org2 and start with a fresh profile.

1. In Synaptic search for 'ooo'. Click the 'S' column header (S Package
Installed Version). That will bring the 'installed' packages to the top
(green boxes filled in). Click on the first 3.0 package (oobasis3.0...
is most likely), hold the Shift key down and scroll down to the last 3.0
package & click it. That will select all of the install 3.0 packages.
Right-click and "Mark for complete removal". Click Apply and when
finished exit Synaptic.

2. Open a terminal and backup your .openoffice.org files:

cp -r ~/.openoffice.org ~/x-.openoffice.org-x

[that makes a copy of your 2.4.1 profile]

cp -r ~/.openoffice.org2 ~/x-.openoffice.org2-x

[that makes a copy of your 3.0 profile]

gksu nautilus

[that opens nautilus in superuser mode]

3. In superuser mode of Nautilus, go to the /opt folder (File System)
and delete /opt/openoffice.org and /opt/openoffice.org3. Both of those
folders are for 3.0. If you have any other OOo folders (example:
/ooo-dev /ooo-dev3) delete those as well.

Exit the superuser mode of Nautilus.

4. Return to the terminal and cd to where the OOo 3.0 deb files are and
reinstall:

cd ~/jjj/Software/OOo/DEBS/
sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Now go to "2 Creating A Launcher" in
http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
and create a simple menu launcher for OOo 3.0. Test.







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Re: [users] stop automatic formatting

[Brian Barker]

Sorry: something - possibly a bullet character - truncated the first 
version of this.  Here (I hope) is a cleaned-up version.


At 23:13 16/12/2008 -0500, Helen Etters wrote:

The question:  How, in OO writer, do I turn off automatic formatting?
The answer I've seen:  Turn off the *Format->AutoFormat->While Typing*.


That's a good start.


... and turn off  *Tools->AutoCorrect*.


That's not a single option, of course, but many.

I've done this.  But OO continues to try to format for me.  It 
thinks I am writing an outline when I am not.


Sorry, but I don't understand exactly what you mean here.


Or it thinks I am wanting a bulleted list when I do not.


If you start a line with a hyphen, a plus sign, or an asterisk, 
followed by a space, a bulleted list is created when you press Enter 
at the end of that paragraph.  But that doesn't happen if you have 
turned off Format | AutoFormat > | While Typing.  Note that if you 
already have a bulleted or numbered list and type Enter to create a 
new paragraph within it or at its end, then Writer will add a new 
item to your list even if you have While Typing disabled.  You'd want 
that - right?


If you want to leave AutoCorrect on for some things but to disable 
the creation of bulleted and numbered lists, change the options Tools 
| AutoCorrect... | Options | Apply numbering - symbol: * and Tools | 
AutoCorrect... | Options | Replace bullets with: *.


One useful thing to remember is that when you type something and see 
an automatic correction, Writer has done two things: the change you 
want followed by the correction you don't.  Since it sees these as 
two separate operations, you can easily undo the correction but keep 
what you do want by immediately using Edit | Undo (or Ctrl+Z).


It insists on indenting a paragraph, and I cannot convince OO that I 
do not want this paragraph indented.


If you press Enter to create a new paragraph, Writer assumes that you 
want the new paragraph to inherit the style of the previous 
one.  That's not unreasonable: it has to have some paragraph style, 
after all.  But you *can* convince Writer that you do not want 
indentation.  How you do this depends on exactly what you ant to 
achieve.  You could drag the triangular markers on the horizontal 
ruler to where they need to be.  Or you could make the changes - to a 
paragraph - at Format | Paragraph... | Indents & Spacing (or 
right-click | Paragraph... | Indents & Spacing) or - to the paragraph 
style - at right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents & 
Spacing.  Or you could apply a different paragraph style, without the 
indentation.


You don't say whether you see this behaviour in new documents or in 
an existing one.  If you are handling an existing document, remember 
that you may have paragraph styles applied (either by you or by an 
earlier editor of the document) that mandate the effects you are 
claiming not to want.  In this case, you will need to apply different 
styles or to modify the existing ones.


Have you perhaps modified the default template?  If the default 
paragraph style has been modified here, you will see its consequences 
in all new documents created with the default template, of course.


I do not want any formatting done for me.   How can I completely 
turn this off?


As I hope I've indicated, I think there is no single, simple answer 
to this question!


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Go-oo is a No-Go

[kirk_2892]

NoOp-4 wrote:
> 
> Anyway, if you'd like to send an .lwp file my way (off-list), I'll be
> happy to see if I can get it opened for you.
> 

Thanks for the offer. I actually have Smartsuite installed, so I can open
the files, but am looking for a long term solution for the hundreds of files
that go back to Ami-Pro.

I keep hoping that something will be able to import those files in a
reasonable manner.

I saw a link to a batch converter for LWP in another thread, and that would
work for me, except when I downloaded the file, the script crashes Word Pro
on my machine.

Thanks,

Kirk

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[users] Re: Go-oo is a No-Go

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 01:07 PM, kirk_2892 wrote:
>>>Is by chance the document password protected?
> 
> Nope, not protected. No passwords have ever been used.
> 
> I tried Symphony, and it has more success at opening them, but is such a
> worthless piece that I can't stomach it on my machine. How in the world did
> it win any award?
> 
> In less than five minutes with it loaded, I had it crash twice and had to
> close it once because after doing a print preview, it would never go back to
> my document. When I closed the print preview, it just showed blank screen
> and no view setting I could find would bring it back.
> 
> Kirk
> 

Agree w/Symphony... Tested the latest on linux & windows & only left
them on a test machine.

Anyway, if you'd like to send an .lwp file my way (off-list), I'll be
happy to see if I can get it opened for you.



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Re: [users] Go-oo is a No-Go

[kirk_2892]

>>Is by chance the document password protected?

Nope, not protected. No passwords have ever been used.

I tried Symphony, and it has more success at opening them, but is such a
worthless piece that I can't stomach it on my machine. How in the world did
it win any award?

In less than five minutes with it loaded, I had it crash twice and had to
close it once because after doing a print preview, it would never go back to
my document. When I closed the print preview, it just showed blank screen
and no view setting I could find would bring it back.

Kirk

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Re: [users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:32:56 -0800
NoOp  dijo:

> On 12/17/2008 12:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > I'm about to give up. 
> [snip]
> > 
> > Note that this is an additional install of 3.0. It is not an upgrade
> > replacing 2.4.1. OOo 2.4.1 is still installed, and I dare not uninstall
> > it considering the instability and bugs in 3.0.
> > 
> > I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.
> 
> http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04
> 
> Note:
> 
> This guide shows how you can install the new OpenOffice 3.0.0 office
> suite on your Ubuntu 8.04 desktop. Your current OpenOffice installation
> will not be removed unless you uninstall it with Synaptic or on the
> command line, so you can run both versions in parallel if you like.
> 
> 
> Don't uninstall 2.4.1. After "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" skip directly to
> "2 Creating A Launcher". The instructions before that are only if you
> have uninstalled (U)OOo.
> 
> Note that there are 2 pages of instructions.

Those are the instructions I followed in order to install OOo 3.0,
leaving 2.4.1 installed as well. The dpkg command executed without
error, except that no launch entries were created. But those were easy
to create manually.

I think some of my problems are due to the fact that I have been
launching Writer directly without launching the splash screen first.

Other problems may be due to the fact that you cannot install the Gnome
desktop integration package unless you uninstall 2.4.1. 

Lately I have been starting it with the splash screen first, then
Writer, but it still crashes hourly. When I restart it sometimes it
cannot even recover the document. That is, if I tell it to recover the
document it just crashes trying to recover it.

I'm beginning to see why Ubuntu creates an Ubuntuized version before
they put it in the repositories.
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[users] Re: Go-oo is a No-Go

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 08:42 AM, kirk_2892 wrote:
> Go-oo is a No-Go for opening LWP files. 
> 
> I saw this post and had hope for rescuing my years of LWP files and Go-oo
> simply does not work at all.
> 
> It will open the file, but it is incomprehensible and truncated. Either of
> which is a deal killer.
> 
> Here is a business letter than I just opened:
> 
> YhA)yY/A)yY=XQAbp:Y=XQE#*gA
> 
> That is it, that is all it opened. It will happily open the file, but
> doesn't do much good.
> 
> Symphony isn't a solution for me. It is slow and buggy.
> 
> Kirk 

Is by chance the document password protected?



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Re: [users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[M Henri Day]

2008/12/17 John Boyle 

> To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
> YEAR :-) *
>
> --
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And a pleasant winter solstice to you, too !...

Henri

[users] creating an IF statement to cover multiple columns during SUM

[Wade Smart]

20081217 1202 GMT-5

I have columns E,G,I,K,and M.
In each one there is a start time, a finish time and a sumed number.

Example:
e540 = 240
e541 = 11:12
e542 = 11:28
e543 = 00:16 -> elapsed time

g540 = 240
g541 = 11:42
g542 = 12:00
g543 = 00:18

and so on

Now I have another area like this:
g545 = 480 -> total running of g540
g546 = 00:34 -> total running of e543
g547 = this equals total time (g541 - m542 = total time)


So this is what I would like to do. Since not all five columns are used 
every time I would like to have something that sums what is there.


For example: today only three columns were used so I would like to take 
E541-I542 instead of E541-M542.


To me this sounds complicated using this spread sheet but, since I have 
to do this 15 or so times a day I would like to have some code that can 
help me out.


Wade

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[users] Re: 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2008 12:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I'm about to give up. 
[snip]
> 
> Note that this is an additional install of 3.0. It is not an upgrade
> replacing 2.4.1. OOo 2.4.1 is still installed, and I dare not uninstall
> it considering the instability and bugs in 3.0.
> 
> I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.

http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04

Note:

This guide shows how you can install the new OpenOffice 3.0.0 office
suite on your Ubuntu 8.04 desktop. Your current OpenOffice installation
will not be removed unless you uninstall it with Synaptic or on the
command line, so you can run both versions in parallel if you like.


Don't uninstall 2.4.1. After "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" skip directly to
"2 Creating A Launcher". The instructions before that are only if you
have uninstalled (U)OOo.

Note that there are 2 pages of instructions.




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[users] Re: Junicode reference - Embedded Graphics in Web Page "thread"

[Jim Allan]

John Jason Jordan wrote:

First, I am a student of linguistics and I need a font that has a full
set of characters for the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). There
are several such fonts available, and most are free, but they all have
issues, except for Junicode. Plus, Junicode is attractive. Therefore I
use it as my default font in all programs that allow setting a default
font. In OOo I not only set it as the default font in Tools > Options,
but also the font for all the styles in my Default template. So that
explains how the font name got into the document - it was written with
Junicode from the beginning.


If you have issues with the IPA characters in the DejaVu fonts, I 
suggest you email them. They are constantly updating them. See the 
contact email addresso on their wiki page at 
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page .



When I wrote the document I did not mean to imply that one had to use
Junicode in order to create the brackets. Certainly any font will do.
It's just that if you are creating brackets for work in phonology your
brackets are going to need IPA characters.

As for embedding fonts into web pages I have a fairly dim understanding
of it. You can set a font in the tags for the document, but each user
can tell their browser to use a different font and to override the font
tags on a web page. For example I have a sight-impaired friend who sets
her browser to display fonts really large. I also know that there is a
list of core fonts that web designers use in order to maintain
compatibility. These core fonts are supposed to be installed on all
computers regardless of platform, so a web designer can ensure that the
viewer will see what the designer wanted by just sticking to the core
fonts. 


There are the Microsoft Web core fonts which Microsoft at one time 
offered for free on the web. The stopped this because Linux distros were 
including automatic downloading in their installation, effectively 
making these fonts default Linux fonts. However, while no one can compel 
Microsoft to continue to provide them, the fonts remain free for any 
user. They are available at 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=34153 . Note that 
these fonts are now old versions. Updated versions come with the 
Microsoft and Macintosh operating systems. Some of these updated 
versions contain a IPA characters.


They are not “supposed to be installed on all computer regardless of 
platform”. I believe a number of Linux distros do include them, but 
there is no regulation that they must be included.


Still, if you indicate in a web page that one of these fonts is to be 
used, there is a good chance that it will be the font used on most 
machines that view that web page.



Even so a user can override the settings in a page.


Yes.


Whether one can actually embed a font into a web page is a question
that is above my job level.


You can, but different browsers interpret different methods of 
embedding. So generally, it is not considered advisable to embed fonts 
on a HTML web page. Use PDF instead if you really want your document to 
be fixed format, including fonts.



I do know that you cannot embed into a web
document a formula like the ones I use to create brackets. I know
because when I uploaded the index.html page to my web site the bracket
was an empty hole when viewed in a browser. I had to create the bracket
as a graphic and link the graphic to that place in the page. 


Yes, though you can probably use mathml. Or, again, use PDF.

Jim Allan



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Re: [users] Junicode reference - Embedded Graphics in Web Page "thread"

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:40:06 -0500
Web Kracked  dijo:

> John Jason Jordan skrev:
> I am an idiot when it comes to web pages. I used OOo to create a 
> simple
> little web page:
> 
> http://web.pdx.edu/~johj/
> 
> 
> 
> The OOo page called "Brackets.odt" uses the font of Junicode.
> 
> Here is the question.
> 
> The downloaded file states that the file's font is Junicode.
> I do not have Junicode installed, but it is shown in the
> font name "window".
> 
> Did the font somehow get embedded  in the document or is the
> font name shown but with no related font in the document do
> to the fact it is not on the system?
> 
> The document states it is easier to use Junicode to do the work
> with brackets, and the  brackets are shown in the document.  The
> bold text has trouble displaying the "n" character as well.
> 
> I was just wondering.
> 
> I would love to have an option to embed fonts in a document that was
> not a PDF file.

First, I am a student of linguistics and I need a font that has a full
set of characters for the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). There
are several such fonts available, and most are free, but they all have
issues, except for Junicode. Plus, Junicode is attractive. Therefore I
use it as my default font in all programs that allow setting a default
font. In OOo I not only set it as the default font in Tools > Options,
but also the font for all the styles in my Default template. So that
explains how the font name got into the document - it was written with
Junicode from the beginning.

When I wrote the document I did not mean to imply that one had to use
Junicode in order to create the brackets. Certainly any font will do.
It's just that if you are creating brackets for work in phonology your
brackets are going to need IPA characters.

As for embedding fonts into web pages I have a fairly dim understanding
of it. You can set a font in the tags for the document, but each user
can tell their browser to use a different font and to override the font
tags on a web page. For example I have a sight-impaired friend who sets
her browser to display fonts really large. I also know that there is a
list of core fonts that web designers use in order to maintain
compatibility. These core fonts are supposed to be installed on all
computers regardless of platform, so a web designer can ensure that the
viewer will see what the designer wanted by just sticking to the core
fonts. Even so a user can override the settings in a page.

Whether one can actually embed a font into a web page is a question
that is above my job level. I do know that you cannot embed into a web
document a formula like the ones I use to create brackets. I know
because when I uploaded the index.html page to my web site the bracket
was an empty hole when viewed in a browser. I had to create the bracket
as a graphic and link the graphic to that place in the page. 

Hopefully there will be someone with more knowledge of creating web
pages who can correct my errors here and clarify the issue.

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[users] AT the risk, and proud to do it, of being called a "Bible Thumper"

[John Boyle]

To ALL,  including James Knott, *MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW
YEAR :-) *

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Re: [users] Slightly OT: Microsoft Office to open up to rival formats

[Web Kracked]

Manfred J. Krause wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 13:29, James Knott wrote:
  

Harold Fuchs wrote:


http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39365418,00.htm


  

It remains to be seen how well they do that.  However, that's old news,
that was announced quite some time ago.  I wonder how their ODF support
will compare with the Sun ODF plugin?



Some further links (for those who are interested in Microsoft's road
of ODF [1.1] implementation)
->

(1)
December 16, 2008
ODF 1.1 Implementer Notes for Office 2007 SP2
[Document Interoperability Initiative]


(2)
Doug Mahugh - Guiding principles for Office's ODF implementation
[Published 05 August 08]


(3)
MSDN > Forums Home > Open Specifications >
Office Open Document Format Implementation
[Discuss technical content and implementation of the Office
implementation of the ODF 1.1 standard] -
[opened 2008-12-15]


(4)
OASIS ODF 1.1


(5)
OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC


Manfred
  

Well, it is good to see MS "working" on a promise they made in the spring.
In New York State (USA), our lawmakers stated some time ago that they
will be required to have all electronic documents stored/published in an
"Open File Format".  With the economy crash, I wonder how long it will
now take.  BUT, the commitment to move away from a MS document format
to an open format is encouraging for me.

Since many of the government agencies of the state has not converted over
to the MS Office 2007 package, and cannot use the service pack to read/write
the ODF files it is proposed to be able to do, I hope that the budget 
crunch will
require the move to OpenOffice.org.  The databases are still the 
problem, but

most of the database use I have seen has been via a web browser format to
some central location.  This does not involve the MS Access formats.

So it would be nice to see the move.  Of course there is the SUN addon.
I have used it in the past on XP, and I may download it again for this Vista
install, but I hardly ever use MS and it is just as easy to read the 
doc file

in OOo 3.x that have MS convert/export/save it in ODT.

Great job on the links Manfred.

Tim L.
retired and tired of Microsoft



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[users] OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 doesn't let me input formulas the way I want…

[Johnny Rosenberg]

*What happens?*

This worked in 2.4.1:

Write this in a cell, for example in B1:

=SUM($A$1:A1)

Hit ↵ (Enter)

Go back to the cell and look at its formula. OpenOffice.org has changed the
formula, without asking me, to:

=SUM($A$1:$A$1)

This is ridiculous!

This works like expected, however:

=SUM($A$1:B1)

OpenOffice.org does not change this formula.

*What I want to do?*

I want one column that contains the "average fuel consumption so far" of the
values in other columns. "SUM($A$1:A1)" is only a part of the formula. The
real formula looks something like this:

=IF(OR(F1="";G1="");"";100*SUM($F$1:F1)/SUM($G$1:G1))

Column G contains by how much fuel I filled the car with in dm³ and the F
column contains how many km I drove since last time I filled it up
(resetting the trip meter every time).

When I copy that formula to the next row, it will look like this:

=IF(OR(F2="";G2="");"";100*SUM($F$1:F2)/SUM($G$1:G2))

which makes sense, doesn't it?

The first formula will, after I entered it, immediately be converted to:

=IF(OR(F1="";G1="");"";100*SUM($F$1:$F$1)/SUM($G$1:$G$1))

which is pretty useless.

*Is there a workaround?*

Yes, of course. Just enter the second row, then copy it to the first row.
Strang enough, now the first row isn't changed! It is now possible to copy
to any row, at least if the second row is the source.

*Why do I write this?*

I just thought I should see if someone happens to know if this is a bug or a
feature. What good could possibly come out of this behaviour? If no one can
tell me, I guess I'll send a bug report, if there isn't one already.

Johnny Rosenberg

[users] Junicode reference - Embedded Graphics in Web Page "thread"

[Web Kracked]

John Jason Jordan skrev:
   I am an idiot when it comes to web pages. I used OOo to create a 
simple

   little web page:

   http://web.pdx.edu/~johj/



The OOo page called "Brackets.odt" uses the font of Junicode.

Here is the question.

The downloaded file states that the file's font is Junicode.
I do not have Junicode installed, but it is shown in the
font name "window".

Did the font somehow get embedded  in the document or is the
font name shown but with no related font in the document do
to the fact it is not on the system?

The document states it is easier to use Junicode to do the work
with brackets, and the  brackets are shown in the document.  The
bold text has trouble displaying the "n" character as well.

I was just wondering.

I would love to have an option to embed fonts in a document that was
not a PDF file.




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Re: [users] Setting paper size with LC_PAPER does not work

[Gene Young]

Stephan Windmüller wrote:

Hello!

We have a problem on a system which runs Ubuntu 8.04 for many users. Our
default paper size is A4, not letter. But OpenOffice always sets the
paper size for a new document to letter.




What can I try next? Did I understand LC_PAPER wrong or is this a bug in
OpenOffice?



Is your default document template set to letter or A4?
From the help file:

Modifying Default Templates
First, open either an existing OpenOffice.org template and modify it, or open a new document and 
edit it as necessary to create the desired template.


(Format > Page > Page tab > Format drop down box choose A4.)- added by me

You can define a document template for each OpenOffice.org module. The following describes how to 
proceed for text documents.


1.Save the document by choosing File - Templates - Save and saving the document in the My Templates 
category.

2.Choose File - Templates - Organize.
3.Double-click My Templates in the list on the left. You will see the user-defined templates in the 
user directory specified under Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Paths. Select the template you 
have just saved and open the context menu or open the submenu of the Commands button.
4.Choose Set As Default Template. The next time you open a new text document, the new document will 
be based on the new default template.


--
Gene Y.

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[users] Go-oo is a No-Go

[kirk_2892]

Go-oo is a No-Go for opening LWP files. 

I saw this post and had hope for rescuing my years of LWP files and Go-oo
simply does not work at all.

It will open the file, but it is incomprehensible and truncated. Either of
which is a deal killer.

Here is a business letter than I just opened:

YhA)yY/A)yY=XQAbp:Y=XQE#*gA

That is it, that is all it opened. It will happily open the file, but
doesn't do much good.

Symphony isn't a solution for me. It is slow and buggy.

Kirk 
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[users] Setting paper size with LC_PAPER does not work

[Stephan Windmüller]

Hello!

We have a problem on a system which runs Ubuntu 8.04 for many users. Our
default paper size is A4, not letter. But OpenOffice always sets the
paper size for a new document to letter.

I figured out that this has to do with the locale. With en_US.UTF-8 the
size is letter, with de_DE.UTF-8 the size is A4. Because we do not want
german menus the locale should stay on en_US.UTF-8. So I set LC_PAPER,
but that does not change anything. Here are the results:

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8
-> letter

LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
-> A4

strace shows me that /usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_PAPER is read. But
even replacing this file does not change the default format.

What can I try next? Did I understand LC_PAPER wrong or is this a bug in
OpenOffice?

TIA
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Re: [users] Slightly OT: Microsoft Office to open up to rival formats

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 13:29, James Knott wrote:
> Harold Fuchs wrote:
>> http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39365418,00.htm
>>
>>
> It remains to be seen how well they do that.  However, that's old news,
> that was announced quite some time ago.  I wonder how their ODF support
> will compare with the Sun ODF plugin?

Some further links (for those who are interested in Microsoft's road
of ODF [1.1] implementation)
->

(1)
December 16, 2008
ODF 1.1 Implementer Notes for Office 2007 SP2
[Document Interoperability Initiative]


(2)
Doug Mahugh - Guiding principles for Office's ODF implementation
[Published 05 August 08]


(3)
MSDN > Forums Home > Open Specifications >
Office Open Document Format Implementation
[Discuss technical content and implementation of the Office
implementation of the ODF 1.1 standard] -
[opened 2008-12-15]


(4)
OASIS ODF 1.1


(5)
OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC


Manfred

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Re: [users] OT: Phorm surges on advertising trial success

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:06, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> From yesterday's (London) Times:
> [...]
> Apologies to the rest of you.

Accepted ... on one condition: minimum 5 hits ...  ->


[Apologies to the rest of you.]

♏anfred (Umm Buqu)

Re: [users] Slightly OT: Microsoft Office to open up to rival formats

[James Knott]

Harold Fuchs wrote:
> http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39365418,00.htm
>
>   
It remains to be seen how well they do that.  However, that's old news,
that was announced quite some time ago.  I wonder how their ODF support
will compare with the Sun ODF plugin?


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[users] OT: Phorm surges on advertising trial success

[Harold Fuchs]

>From yesterday's (London) Times:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/markets/article5349053.ece

I know some of you have previously expressed interest in this company in
this list. Apologies to the rest of you.

-- 
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London, England
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[users] Slightly OT: Microsoft Office to open up to rival formats

[Harold Fuchs]

http://software.silicon.com/applications/0,39024653,39365418,00.htm

-- 
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org

Re: [users] stop automatic formatting

[Brian Barker]

At 23:13 16/12/2008 -0500, Helen Etters wrote:

The question:  How, in OO writer, do I turn off automatic formatting?
The answer I've seen:  Turn off the *Format->AutoFormat->While Typing*.


That's a good start.


... and turn off  *Tools->AutoCorrect*.


That's not a single option, of course, but many.

I've done this.  But OO continues to try to 
format for me.  It thinks I am writing an outline when I am not.


Sorry, but I don't understand exactly what you mean here.


Or it thinks I am wanting a bulleted list when I do not.


If you start a line with a hyphen, a plus sign, 
or an asterisk, followed by a space, a bulleted 
list is created when you press Enter at the end 
of that paragraph.  But that doesn't happen if 
you have turned off Format | AutoFormat > | While 
Typing.  Note that if you already have a bulleted 
or numbered list and type Enter to create a new 
paragraph within it or at its end, then Writer 
will add a new item to your list even if you have 
While Typing disabled.  You'd want that - right?


If you want to leave AutoCorrect on for some 
things but to disable the creation of bulleted 
and numbered lists, change the options Tools | 
AutoCorrect... | Options | Apply numbering - 
symbol: • and Tools | AutoCorrect... | Options | Replace bullets with: •

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[users] 3.0 in addition to 2.4.1 on Ubuntu

[John Jason Jordan]

I'm about to give up. 

I have OOo 2.4.1 working fine in Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64. I have
installed 3.0 by downloading the tarball, extracting it
to /home/jjj/Software/OOo/, then doing "sudo dpkg -i /home/Software/OOo
*.deb." This installs all the packages except the one
in /home/Software/OOo/desktop-integration. I can't find the source
where I read it, but if you install the desktop integration .deb it
messes something up. Can't remember what.

OOo 3.0 runs fine except for the following:

1) I have to click to run OOo Writer (or any other module), nothing
happens, then I have to click it again to actually launch it.

2) Closing the document closes the entire application. This may be
because I only lauch the specific module (.e.g., Writer), not the main
splash screen. I do so because the splash screen is annoying and
useless. I use Writer almost always, and use the other modules one time
out of 500.

3) it crashes randomly.

4) I cannot install any extensions because clicking on Tools >
Extensions Manager crashes OOo.

Note that this is an additional install of 3.0. It is not an upgrade
replacing 2.4.1. OOo 2.4.1 is still installed, and I dare not uninstall
it considering the instability and bugs in 3.0.

I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.


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