Re: [videoblogging] What kind of Pro camera should I get?

[Brook Hinton]

Warning - long response.

First - if you have a good rental house nearby I would strongly
consider renting for your for-hire work unitl you get a good sense of
what cameras you like and how their workflow works out for you. That's
what I'm doing right now - there's still a lot of upheaval in the low
to mid end HD production field and things will keep changing rapidly.
The fallout from the introduction of the RED camera is going to change
things drastically.

That said, here's my take on the sub-10k cams I'm familiar with.
You'll note very little Sony or JVC mentioned - I used to favor Sony's
stuff, but they've fallen way behind in this field in my view. JVC
makes some very interesting midrange cameras, but I am leery of their

For 24P in standard def/DV you are pretty much limited to the
absolutely excellent Panasonic DVX100 (or its more expensive big
brother, the HVX200, which also does HD once you add pricey P2 cards -
see below).

For pro for-hire work I still try to avoid HDV except for projects
that are primarily interviews or other material that won't have a lot
of motion. The Canon HDV stuff does a better job than the other brands
on avoiding motion artifacts and blocking it seems, but you're going
to be delivering on DVD, h.264 files or an HD DVD / Blu-Ray pretty
soon for many clients, which means putting that long-GOP mpeg2
transport HDV stream through not only color correction and whatever
other image processing and compositing but ANOTHER pass of temporal
compression. That said, I know others who are using the the higher end
Sony and Canon HDV cameras for professional work. If you go that
route, the HX-A1 is a great value.

If you want 24P in HDV, Sony has one model, but it has pretty crummy
low light performance. Canon's prosumer/professional HDV stuff does
24F, which is kind of like a 24fps version of "frame mode" on the XL1
and GL1 - doesn't have the res of 24P but it has the look and can be
treated as true 24P in post.

On the lower end - while I adore my little HV20 as an everyday
personal cam and even for my own filmmaking, it lacks the support you
really need for professional audio in the field (unless you're doing
double system sound), and is going to make most clients a little
uneasy since it looks and feels like a very cheap consumer camera.
It's 24P feature requires some extra steps in post as it doesn't carry
the cadence flags other 24P video equipment uses. The picture, once
you learn to get full manual control, rivals its more expensive
brothers and sisters though. It's the best consumer-for-pros secret
weapon cam since the Sony TRV900, but it's not something to build a
production business around.

IF you can afford it and are willing to learn the workflow of using P2
cards and no tape, the HVX200 is NON-hdv HD camera for the money, does
multiple frame rates, and uses dvcproHD instead of HDV for
compression. Basically (though this obersimplifies), its a native 16:9
HD version of the DVX100 (it will also do DV on tape). But once you
get the cards and the support stuff it is more expensive than the high
end Canon and Sony HDV stuff. There's a lot of talk about it only
resolving 540 lines and the interpolation it uses.


I should also repeat here three mantras I always tell my students:

1) Never buy anything until you are ready to learn it thoroughly and
use it regularly immediately. I work with so many people who got
themselves "fully equipped" and then, two years later, find themselves
facing obsolescence or incompatabilities once they are ready to really
learn and use.

2) Never WAIT to buy something you need right away due to fear of
something better and cheaper coming out soon - it's not worth the
missed opportunity.

3) A skilled and talented artist or craftsperson can get professional
results from almost anything. An unskilled person will not do any
better with a CIneAlta HDCam than they will with a cel phone camera.
The person is at least 95% of the quality equation. The equipment is
secondary.

FWIW, with apologies for my habitual lectury teacher-tone,

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] What kind of Pro camera should I get?

[Brook Hinton]

Among the typos I left this out - despite the hubbub about the
HVX200's 540 line resolving power, everyone I know feels it holds up
to HDCam and even film outpt as well or better than its HDV
equivalents. Resolution isn't everything by a long shot.

Also be warned that the fake 24P on some of the Sony cameras can NOT
be treated as 24P in post and looks really really wonky.

And I left out my summary: assuming 24P is necessary:

Best value: Panasonic DVX100 (but doesn't do HD)
Best HD option under 10k: Panasonic HVX-200
Best Professional HDV for the money: Canon XH-A1
Best Consumer HDV: Canon HV20
Best Consumer DV: Sony's cheapos still have the picture quality edge,
while Panasonic's have the interface/ergonomics edge.

Brook


On 12/9/07, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Warning - long response.
>
> First - if you have a good rental house nearby I would strongly
> consider renting for your for-hire work unitl you get a good sense of
> what cameras you like and how their workflow works out for you. That's
> what I'm doing right now - there's still a lot of upheaval in the low
> to mid end HD production field and things will keep changing rapidly.
> The fallout from the introduction of the RED camera is going to change
> things drastically.
>
> That said, here's my take on the sub-10k cams I'm familiar with.
> You'll note very little Sony or JVC mentioned - I used to favor Sony's
> stuff, but they've fallen way behind in this field in my view. JVC
> makes some very interesting midrange cameras, but I am leery of their
>
> For 24P in standard def/DV you are pretty much limited to the
> absolutely excellent Panasonic DVX100 (or its more expensive big
> brother, the HVX200, which also does HD once you add pricey P2 cards -
> see below).
>
> For pro for-hire work I still try to avoid HDV except for projects
> that are primarily interviews or other material that won't have a lot
> of motion. The Canon HDV stuff does a better job than the other brands
> on avoiding motion artifacts and blocking it seems, but you're going
> to be delivering on DVD, h.264 files or an HD DVD / Blu-Ray pretty
> soon for many clients, which means putting that long-GOP mpeg2
> transport HDV stream through not only color correction and whatever
> other image processing and compositing but ANOTHER pass of temporal
> compression. That said, I know others who are using the the higher end
> Sony and Canon HDV cameras for professional work. If you go that
> route, the HX-A1 is a great value.
>
> If you want 24P in HDV, Sony has one model, but it has pretty crummy
> low light performance. Canon's prosumer/professional HDV stuff does
> 24F, which is kind of like a 24fps version of "frame mode" on the XL1
> and GL1 - doesn't have the res of 24P but it has the look and can be
> treated as true 24P in post.
>
> On the lower end - while I adore my little HV20 as an everyday
> personal cam and even for my own filmmaking, it lacks the support you
> really need for professional audio in the field (unless you're doing
> double system sound), and is going to make most clients a little
> uneasy since it looks and feels like a very cheap consumer camera.
> It's 24P feature requires some extra steps in post as it doesn't carry
> the cadence flags other 24P video equipment uses. The picture, once
> you learn to get full manual control, rivals its more expensive
> brothers and sisters though. It's the best consumer-for-pros secret
> weapon cam since the Sony TRV900, but it's not something to build a
> production business around.
>
> IF you can afford it and are willing to learn the workflow of using P2
> cards and no tape, the HVX200 is NON-hdv HD camera for the money, does
> multiple frame rates, and uses dvcproHD instead of HDV for
> compression. Basically (though this obersimplifies), its a native 16:9
> HD version of the DVX100 (it will also do DV on tape). But once you
> get the cards and the support stuff it is more expensive than the high
> end Canon and Sony HDV stuff. There's a lot of talk about it only
> resolving 540 lines and the interpolation it uses.
>
>
> I should also repeat here three mantras I always tell my students:
>
> 1) Never buy anything until you are ready to learn it thoroughly and
> use it regularly immediately. I work with so many people who got
> themselves "fully equipped" and then, two years later, find themselves
> facing obsolescence or incompatabilities once they are ready to really
> learn and use.
>
> 2) Never WAIT to buy something you need right away due to fear of
> something better and cheaper coming out soon - it's not worth the
> missed opportunity.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: DV Widescreen settings

[Brook Hinton]

Most editing software packages provide capture and timeline/sequence
presets for working with 16:9. Make sure you set them correctly before
you start.

Common square-pixel SD export resolutions for 16:9:

854x480 (note that this still involves some upscaling due pixel aspect
difference - there's no real "unscaled" DV to square-pixel conversion
)
720x404
640x360
480x270 (272 for the iphone)
360x202
320x180

HD:
960x540
1280x720


-- Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: What kind of Pro camera should I get?

[Brook Hinton]

Just a data point: some of us HAVE had serious problems with long-GOP
compression in HDV. But again, it all depends on what sort of work you
do. Worth noting that the high quality 24P setting on the EX1 uses an
extra 10 mb/s of bandwidth in addition to a slightly smaller GOP,
which should make those blockies and fuzzies a little less
problematic.

The EX1 is interesting. AT its price point its really competing with
the HVX - once you add the cards its significantly more expensive than
an XH-A1.  The 1/2 inch sensor is a plus but it's still a far cry from
the 2/3 inch sensors on high end cameras. Low light performance is
about a stop better than than the HVX.

Another thing to note: i uses CMOS chips, like the HV20 and the lower
end Sony HDVs (and, for that matter, the RED). These use a rolling
shutter, which can result in distortion when things are moving quickly
across the frame. I actually LIKE this distortion - it feels somewhat
organic, like an exagerration of the rotating shutter in a film camera
- but some pros are leery of it. A lot of work is going
into"improving" this in the RED camera. I don't know what sort of
implementation Sony is using but if its a concern you should check on
it.  Again, I LIKE the look of CMOS, including the rolling shutter, so
for me its almost a plus.

(you can see a greatly exagerrated version of the rolling shutter
effect on cel phone video cams like the Nokia N93 - it's nowhere NEAR
that level of distortion on pro/semi pro cams though).

Personally, I would still choose an HVX over the EX1 because of the
long GOP issue (though I haven't used an EX1 yet so we'll see). But
I'm not rushing out to buy either. I'm renting til the field stablizes
or my production schedule gets heavier.

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: camtwist:free program to add effect to your webcam

[Brook Hinton]

Steve (watkins): the two main prebuilt solutions people are using for
live work, at least those using macs, that go beyond basic vj-ing are
modul8 and the public beta of the new VDMX. I'm finding the latter
more flexible, but modul8 is great if you don't require lots of
on-the-fly precision in terms of cueing and effect changes within
clips. both should work great with a lemur. I am drooling over the
fact that you have a lemur. They are amazing.

If you are at all scripting / programming friendly, you'll probably be
happier learning Jitter (which also means learning Max/MSP) and
rolling your own solution. I haven't gone there yet but I'm tempted.
An open source equivalent is PureData, but it needs extensions to work
with video - I think GEM is what most people use with it.

There's also Isadora, which is somewhere between a prebuilt solution
and Jitter if I understand the literature. I hear only good things
about it, and it runs on multiple platforms.

Somebody also coded a full VJ app using Quartz Composer - can't
remember who - but stopped because VDMX looked so promising and is
going to work directly with QC comps.

Caveat: I'm not in any way shape or form a natural programmer or even
a geek so on the open source side there may be better options. I'm
like the video (and audio) equivalent of Harry Partch, who complained
that he was "forced into carpentry" by what he wanted his music to
sound like. I'm an equally reluctant semigeek in the digital domain,
for similar reasons.

Brook

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[videoblogging] Alive in Baghdad correspondent killed

[Brook Hinton]

A horrible thing.

http://aliveinbaghdad.org/2007/12/15/ali-shafeya-aib-special-correspondent-killed-at-home/

and some other coverage from Steve Rhodes:
http://tigerbeat.vox.com/library/post/alive-in-bagdhad-reporter-killed.html





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Re: [videoblogging] wordpress spam comments

[Brook Hinton]

I use Spam Karma. It's been great. Akismet is also considered
effective but it requires you to get wordpress.com account for some
sort of key, and I am  so tired of registering for ANYTHING anymore.

Brook


On 12/17/07, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Look for a WP plugin called Akismet. It's very good as spam comment
>  filtering.
>
>  On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 1:46 pm, Brian Gonzalez wrote:
>  > I'm sure somebody's had this problem before and mentioned it here, but
>  > for
>  > the past few days, literally every minute I'm getting a spam comment
>  > linking
>  > to porn on my wordpress blog, what do I do to stop that?
>  >
>  > Thanks guys.
>  >
>  > --
>  > Brian Gonzalez
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > 210-683-6027
>  > taxiplasm.net
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Brian Richardson
>  - http://whatthecast.com
>  - http://siliconchef.com
>  - http://dragoncontv.com
>  - http://www.3chip.com
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] wordpress spam comments

[Brook Hinton]

I use Spam Karma. It's been great. Akismet is also considered
effective but it requires you to get wordpress.com account for some
sort of key, and I am  so tired of registering for ANYTHING anymore.

Brook


On 12/17/07, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Look for a WP plugin called Akismet. It's very good as spam comment
>  filtering.
>
>  On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 1:46 pm, Brian Gonzalez wrote:
>  > I'm sure somebody's had this problem before and mentioned it here, but
>  > for
>  > the past few days, literally every minute I'm getting a spam comment
>  > linking
>  > to porn on my wordpress blog, what do I do to stop that?
>  >
>  > Thanks guys.
>  >
>  > --
>  > Brian Gonzalez
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > 210-683-6027
>  > taxiplasm.net
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Brian Richardson
>  - http://whatthecast.com
>  - http://siliconchef.com
>  - http://dragoncontv.com
>  - http://www.3chip.com
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Flash player with h264 has been out since 3rd december

[Brook Hinton]

For those of us mac folks not skilled in the ways of the geek or
posessing of the cash needed for flash itself, we have to wait for
some sort of mpeg streamclip/ffmpegx/compressor means of exploring
this new frontier, unless there's some other method I don't know
about.

VP6 would have to be mightily improved if it were to look good at full
screen for anything with a lot of details moving around quickly.

I'm going all HD for 2008, so I am paying attention to fullscreen
developments. But since things are only just now the point where I can
offer just h.264 quicktime and most everyone can see it, I'm not
rushing into anything.

Brook



On 12/18/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Just noticed that the non-beta h264 version of the flash player came out
> earlier this
>  month, and I hadnt even noticed. .


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film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

Re: [videoblogging] Repair shop for mini dv cameras? SF bay area.

[Brook Hinton]

Sounds like worn out heads, meaning a head replacement, which is
rarely done on consumer equipment. I'm assuming you've already tried
cleaning the heads.

As for old tapes: DV is not even close to archival. You should not
count on more than 3 years, though you can get over 5 if you store
carefully (moderate temperature, no high humidity, far from
speakers/video monitors/cel phones/magnetic power slots/certain
parking gate cards/etc.). What happens when they go bad? Dropouts.
Audio first.

My dear old TRV900, my trusty everyday camera for years, went down the
same path. My choice was between a new HD or many hundreds of dollars
to repair the TRV (and no guarantees from Sony's facility that it
would be up to the standards I needed after the repair, since they
allow for pretty generous tolerances in refurbing consumer gear). I
went with the HDV. I still don't know for sure that it was the right
choice. The 900 had a feverish cult following for good reason.

Brook

(who is still waiting, in HDV purgatory, for a 24P DVCproHD camcorder
that is the same size as his old TRV900 or smaller and has the same
level of manual control)



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Re: [videoblogging] Why is YouTube so Damn Sexy?

[Brook Hinton]

I rarely post my own work there because the recompress it to all hell
and molest it with their TOS.


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Re: [videoblogging] best format to upload to youtube

[Brook Hinton]

If your clip is very short you could try a strategy someone on Ken
Stone's site uses - compress to photojpeg at as high a quality as you
can while staying within the 100MB limit. Since photo jpeg doesn't
compress temporally, you only end up going one pass through a temporal
codec (whatever flavor of flash you tube is using). But this only
works for a VERY short clip.

Cutting your frame rate down to 15 should help too.

I notice there's now an option to upload pretty gigantic files to You
Tube using a program they offer for download, but it only runs on
windows. WIth that option you could theoretically do photo jpeg or dv
for longer clips.

My best results so far on longer clips have been with h.264 even
though You Tube claims they don't support it. Occasionally they'll
reject an h.264 - it looks like these are usually close to but still
under the 100MB limit, but I don't have enough data to know for sure
that's the trigger.

But it ends up in a low quality flash encode no matter what, so
anything with detail and motion is just going to look like crap on YT.
On the iphone, though, SOME of it looks pretty good - probaby because
those particular clips are h.264 from a relatively high quality
original upload.

Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Why is YouTube so Damn Sexy?

[Brook Hinton]

I heard sexy is over. Sexy jumped the shark. So 90s.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use...

[Brook Hinton]

Unfortunately only a judge or jury ultimately gets to decide what's
fair use, which means the person without the in house legal team is at
the mercy of the person with legal resources regardless of who's right
and who's wrong. Follow Steve's links above for the nitty gritty. This
seems like an open and shut case of fair use to me, but I'm on the
wayyy media hacky lefto archist side of that issue so my
interpretation isn't what would necessarily hold up in court. In my
world, unless someone's pirating (making money off of a copy of
something as if you are the producer / selling something as if its the
real thing when its not) or non-satirically making it look like you
endorse something when you don't (which is libel so doesn't even fall
under this umbrella anyway), the use should not only be protected, but
get a little "Upholder of Free Speech" gold star. The Fair Use
exception can be interpreted to be pretty close to that (minus the
gold star of course) - unfortunately, it can be interpreted in the
reverse direction too, depending on which of the evaluative factors
listed in the law is weighted more heavily by those making the
judgment.  The DMCA muddies the waters further.

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use...

[Brook Hinton]

There's a formal DMCA process - I believe the host has to take it
down, but on recieving a formal notice from YOU they have the option
(but not the obligation) to put it back up, but I don't recall the
specifics.

On 12/22/07, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Unfortunately only a judge or jury ultimately gets to decide what's
>  > fair use, which means the person without the in house legal team is at
>  > the mercy of the person with legal resources regardless of who's right
>  > and who's wrong. Follow Steve's links above for the nitty gritty. This
>  > seems like an open and shut case of fair use to me, but I'm on the
>  > wayyy media hacky lefto archist side of that issue so my
>  > interpretation isn't what would necessarily hold up in court. In my
>  > world, unless someone's pirating (making money off of a copy of
>  > something as if you are the producer / selling something as if its the
>  > real thing when its not) or non-satirically making it look like you
>  > endorse something when you don't (which is libel so doesn't even fall
>  > under this umbrella anyway), the use should not only be protected, but
>  > get a little "Upholder of Free Speech" gold star. The Fair Use
>  > exception can be interpreted to be pretty close to that (minus the
>  > gold star of course) - unfortunately, it can be interpreted in the
>  > reverse direction too, depending on which of the evaluative factors
>  > listed in the law is weighted more heavily by those making the
>  > judgment. The DMCA muddies the waters further.
>
>  co lte me ask a question because I get confused about the
>  responsibilities of a video hosting service.
>  Let's say you use a host that will actually talk to you, like blip.
>  You post what you think is a parody of someone else's work.
>  They send blip a takedown notice.
>
>  Can blip look at the video and say, "naw, we think this is fair use.
> sorry".
>  can they stand up to the person asking for the video's removal?
>
>  All the stories I hear make it seem like the video hosts' have no
>  choice but to take down any video that is someone asks.
>
>  Jay
>
>  --
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Apple TV dead?

[Brook Hinton]

Had it not required me to buy some gawdawful widescreen LCD TV I can't
afford and have it sit there all ugly and shiny on my wall I would
have considered buying an Apple TV. I like the concept. But my 25 year
old 4:3 TV hidden away in a cabinet looks better, even w/the low res
of letterboxing, then any widescreen TV I could ever afford.

I like the concept of Appletv
Not having it work with Ye Olde Tv Set may have been a big mistake.

Brook

On 12/22/07, Steve Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> this is sort of a refrain for me this time of year, but wait until macworld
>
>  It may be they will introduce a new model then. And they don't have a
>  ton of inventory, so they're not promoting it.
>
>  Though it would have made sense to introduce a new model before xmas
>
>  On the other hand, jobs has said it is an experiment
>
>  Anyway, we may soon see
>
>  --
>  Steve Rhodes
>
>  http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos
>
>  http://ari.typepad.com
>
>  http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs
>
>  http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles & sites
>
>  http://twitter.com/tigerbeat
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

[Brook Hinton]

I cannot figure out how, in a group that sometimes seems so EXTREMELY
focused on the purely commercal side of videoblogging lately, some
people feel the group is ANTI such things and operates as a lynch mob
along those lines. I still see plenty of all kinds of discussion here.

I also think a little clear vision about the things we all DON'T share
as values/goals/ethics may be useful.  I mean holy smokes, if a
community that lays some claim to, directly or indirectly, 29 Fragile
Days, Twittervlog, Taylor Street Studios, Scratch Video, Alive in
Baghdad, French Maid TV, Gerry T and Mahalo Daily can really say it's
ALL about the shared vision, we're in serious, serious denial.

Brook
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the inevitable conversation about what we're doing

[Brook Hinton]

Should have added to that: and if we can't argue with each other about
the resulting issues, and criticize each other, why have the group at
all? Easy enough to form happy little support listservs to focus on
the various niches and genres. This group is about, or at least I
thought it was, a broader, and yes, more conflicted sphere, and that
is, at least in theory, it's strength. What Scoble, for one, seems to
want this group to be is something it never was intended to be, at
least from what I can surmise.



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

[Brook Hinton]

Terry, Cheryl's post was not an accusation.. She didn't state anything
that needed "backing up". And the post (how many times does this have
to be said) wasn't about targeting Epic-Fu, they were used as an
example illustrating how she COULDN'T know what was behind the product
usage - in a post that was also about many other things that have
unfortunately been lost in the subsequent discussion.

This is basic, and important, media literacy stuff.

The post SOUGHT the "correct information". And from Epic-Fu, got it.
It also resulted in a change to the Epic Fu site that can serve as a
shining example to businesses everywhere that want to communicate
clearly and ethically about the issue, especially to a young and
impressionable audience. They went from ambiguity to heroic clarity.
Depite some Inflammatory and knee jerk comments, it seems like a giant
win for all concerned.

Brook


On 12/24/07, terry.rendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I agree an open discussion is healthy. But you also have to have
>  information to back yourself up. If you're going to make something
>  public have the correct information to back your statements up. For
>  example, if I was going to write a blog post tomorrow that I was
>  suspicious about how a presidential campaign was handling their
>  finances. Shouldn't I have some sort of information that backed up my
>  suspicion?
>
>  Terry Rendon
>  www.terryannonline.com
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Taylor"
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > " If I were suspicious about how one is using advertising on their show
>  > and I had some questions about it, I would privately relay my
>  > questions through an email to the right people and keep it there."
>  >
>  >
>  > She did. Cheryl clearly states in the video that she e-mail Zadi and
>  Steve
>  > about it before recording. Cheryl made the vid knowing that Zadi and
>  Steve
>  > knew about it.
>  >
>  > And the video wasn't just about Epic-Fu.
>  >
>  > Open discussion is healthy. We all keep saying things behind
>  people's backs,
>  > and it's good to air the dirty laundry once in a while to keep the
>  gossip
>  > and rumors from taking over, and to also resolve conflicts en masse and
>  > perhaps even learn something in the process. This all has been a
>  good thing,
>  > and the way people have discussed has revealed more than the discussion
>  > itself. I've been pleasantly surprised by some, sorely disappointed in
>  > others.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 24/12/2007, terry.rendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I asked the question on the Hummingcrow post "Am I the only who
>  > > believes that most of the concerns brought up in this video should
>  > > have been handled privately?"
>  > >
>  > > I have no problem with people giving criticism of others. It helps
>  > > artists grow with when they get feedback, negative or positive. My
>  > > problem with Cheryl's criticism, however, towards Epic Fu was that it
>  > > called into question their business practices. Another problem is at
>  > > one point she calls Steve and Zadi "slick, carefully crafted," which
>  > > in my perception made it personal. In those two areas it crossed the
>  > > line for me.
>  > >
>  > > If I were suspicious about how one is using advertising on their show
>  > > and I had some questions about it, I would privately relay my
>  > > questions through an email to the right people and keep it there. Some
>  > > would say I probably shouldn't even address it privately because it's
>  > > really not my business anyways. If you don't trust something on the
>  > > internet I think the best thing is just not visit the site anymore.
>  > >
>  > > I know many new media people believe in total transparency. However, I
>  > > believe there has to be a limit. There's always going to someone who
>  > > is not satisfied the way you do things (especially if you have large
>  > > audience) and if you have constantly answer peoples concerns that can
>  > > turn extremely exhausting.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Jeffrey Taylor
>  > Mobile: +33625497654
>  > Fax: +33177722734
>  > Skype: thejeffreytaylor
>  > Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>
>
>
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

[Brook Hinton]

Wow. Well, I didn't take Cheryl's post as questioning your integrity.
If anything it seemed like there was an assumption because of who you
guys are that everything was probably being done with integrity, but
the problem was that there was no way for anyone to know that. Again,
basic media literacy stuff that has gone out the window in the
broadcast and online worlds in the last decade.

I don't know you guys and had never paid attention to your show, but
as a result of Cheryl's post and your response I've ended up with
enormous respect for Epic-FU and even a little bit of hope that the
commercial side of whatever comes of web video has a chance at being
more ethical than its MSM counterparts. I'll be using the discussion
in my classes and using Epic-FU as an example of people approaching
the commercial side of video on the web with integrity. It wouldn't
have even registered otherwise. Since I don't know you folks, had I
paid much attention before I probably would have assumed it was
otherwise, having spent too much time dealing with people who
rationalize their involvement in payola-esque situations even when
they present a different face publicly.

I can only speak to my own reaction. I came out of watching the whole
thing and the ensuing discussion thinking you, Zadi, and Cheryl were
all three examples of what is good in this space.

Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Criticism

[Brook Hinton]

On the other hand, aspects of ensuing discussions make me fear that
any discussion that touches on sensitive personal or livelihood
matters for anyone involved will devolve, no matter how things are
originally expressed, into this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzLFNELeCI

Re: [videoblogging] Re: New poll for videoblogging

[Brook Hinton]

Yup, It's not this simple at all. Lots of folks have vlogs that don't
fit either, contain elements of both, or are otherwise outside that
spectrum.




On 12/26/07, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  These categories are a little on the narrow side.

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[videoblogging] Business models, "the" busines model, diversity, and moving on (was: My Amends To Robert Scoble)

[Brook Hinton]

I still don't get this obsession with "the business model" for
videoblogging. How can you have a single business model based on a
delivery mechanism? It's like writers, people who sketch, and
therapists who take notes while listening to their clients all trying
to find a single business model that works for all involved based on
their common use of ink pens. Look at the range of work done by people
on this very list - yes, we have some concerns in common and there is
some semblance of community involved, but in terms of what we do we
are all over the place, even among those of us who connect the use of
videoblogs with making a living. Maybe there's a business model for
tech-related serial infotainment vlogs, or social documentary vlogs,
or video art, or (add dozens of uses here), and there are common
features of future business models, but what helps an tech-related
infotainment show doesn't necessaily help a social documentary vlog
doesn't necessarily help a sitcom-series-vlog doesn't necessarily help
a personal-with-commercial-aspirations vlog etc etc etc.  To say
nothing of the fact that within the group with commercial aspirations,
some are happy to work with commercial sponsors, some with ads, and
some would never dream of involvement with either.

The question, to me, is how we help EACH OTHER achieve our often
contradictory goals without devaluing those differences or letting one
group define the discussion? I think that's the key to real value
happening for this group as a community. Is it even possible?

Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Encoding settings

[Brook Hinton]

Mpeg Streamclip is fantastic.

If you have the technical know how and need more tweakability, ffmpegx
(OSX graphical front end to the ffmpeg tools) is also well worth
having.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble

[Brook Hinton]

Yup. If anything the group's vitality temperature shot out of the
thermometer during the past week or so.

Unless you measure a group's health primarily by a LACK of diversity
and conflict.



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Movies v TV (was...My Amends...)

[Brook Hinton]

>  People will watch good tv and advertisers will spend their money on
>  the demographics they seek.

WHAT good tv?

(sorry, couldn't resist. and ok there is a LITTLE bit of it but...)

This might hold water if there was a whole lot of good tv out there
with which to test the theory, but the economic model doesn't support
the creation of it, for reasons better outlined here already by
others.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bits on the Run

[Brook Hinton]

It looks like old school server streaming. Bleh. Am I missing something?


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Re: [videoblogging] Wikipedia Hypocrisy (was... Scoble...)

[Brook Hinton]

Many of us don't use hosting services and don't want to for much of
our work. Net neutrality then impacts us.

Also JADP -  in the Meyers-Briggs framework, S is "sensing", not
"subjective". It's sensing (S) vs. intuiting (N) at that stage of the
scale. Sensing has nothing whatsoever  to do with subjective thinking
- if anything a strong N would be more subjective in their thinking
than a strong S, but the example given (concrete vs. abstract) does
seem, at least to this INFP, to be accurate in terms of preferred
modes of reasoning within each tendency.

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Best craigslist alternatives when it comes to casting?

[Brook Hinton]

Are you in the sf bay area?

http://castingconnection.com/
http://www.bayareacasting.com/

It all depends on what you are looking for though. These two will
bring on the thespians.

Posting notices on bulleting boards at acting schools and theater
departments also brings in leads.

Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: video gallery wordpress plugin?

[Brook Hinton]

David speaks for me, word for word. This is something I've been
wishing for for a long time.

Wordpress being open and free and all is marvelous, but as a non-coder
sometimes I really regret settling on it. Flexible themes and such
that don't require code tweaking are few and far between IME.

With faith in the future of SIAB,

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Americans Turn to Online Video

[Brook Hinton]

It's 14 percent of those shooting their own video. It's all in the
actual (short and easy to digest) report:

http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/Pew_Videosharing_memo_Jan08.pdf


Brook

On 1/10/08, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh is it 14% of the 22% who shoot some video? Even so that would still be
> getting on for
>  10 million people?
>
>  Are there really that many people posting videos? If so I admit to being
> shocked, Id have
>  thought the net would seem a bit different if there were that many, but
> maybe my sense
>  of reality on this isue is all wrong.
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Steve Elbows
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Nice to hear such things.
>  >
>  > I cant quite believe some of those number sthough. If 14% of Americans
> posted soe
>  video
>  > online, isnt that like 42 million people or something? Surely thats not
> right, and its
>  either a
>  > bogus number of badly explained there, could be 14% of some smaller
> subset of
>  > Americans?
>  >
>  > Cheers
>  >
>  > Steve Elbows
>  >
>  > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron  wrote:
>  > >
>  > > "According to net measurement firm Nielsen Online, some online video
>  > > sites have doubled their audience since the strike began at the end
>  > > of October."
>  > >
>  > > "In September and October, Crackle enjoyed an audience of 1.2m users
>  > > which doubled to 2.4m in November and December, it found."
>  > >
>  > > "Some 22% of Americans now shoot their own videos, with 14% of them
>  > > posting at least some of that video online."
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7180889.stm
>  > >
>  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > >
>  >
>
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Motion 3 vs After Effects CS3

[Brook Hinton]

Coming from Galacticast that's a pretty strong endorsement for Motion!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Motion 3 vs After Effects CS3

[Brook Hinton]

After Effects has become a standard. There's no way around that.

But Motion 3 is a remarkable and under-used tool. As someone who
always preferred Combustion to After Effects I'm finding it a delight,
though it isn't quite  a fully featured app. Motion is no longer the
"imovie" of motion graphics, and in some respects (esp. workflow and
interface) it surpasses its rivals. It would be a shame not to see how
far you can push it.

But a lot of this depends on what you want to do. If you're going to
do serious rotoscoping, you probably need After Effects. Otherwise I'd
use Motion: it's a good app, and you already have it. Then if you find
it underpowered for your needs D/L the free 30-day trial for After
Effects. A lot of people now use FCP and Motion for most of their
work, and go to AE only for specific tasks if they need it.

All of these apps - Combustion, After Effects, Shake, Motion - do some
things better than others even though they try to be comprehensive.  I
say start with what you've got, then pick the next one, if you need
it, based on the specific things you need to accomplish.

Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rox Lumiere for Rupert

[Brook Hinton]

1. The manifesto is provocative and useful, Some of this aspect comes
from material that isn't really directly connected to the conditions
of the original Lumiere films, but that's just fine, and the Lumiere
"restrictions" continue to be useful as well. It has inspired some of
the best work in the videoblogging world so far.

2. Making "Lumieres" as exercises, finished works or aesthetic
statements is as old as the hills. I've given "Lumieres" as
assignments to my students for many years. and I'm hardly alone in
this. That said, Andreas and Brittany deserve huge amounts of credit
for calling attention to the practice and its potential in an online
context.

3. The manifesto/project does become problematic in some respects in
that making a Lumiere is now, at least in the videoblogging world,
seen as connected with the Andreas and Brittany's project, even though
the maker may have their own reasons for working in a form that dates
back to the dawn of cinema. Cheryl should be able to make Lumieres if
she chooses without it being seen as an endorsement of a manifesto she
doesn't agree with, and she should be able to CALL them Lumieres, as
the use of the term to denote work that is inspired by and works
within limitations similar to that of the of the original Lumiere
Brothers films predates videoblogging. let alone the manifesto. This
is not, however, the fault of Andreas and Brittany, nor of any
videoblogger at all.

4. It's good that Andreas is making sure Brittany gets her due - it's
the right thing to do.  It's too bad the tone was so needlessly
combative and dismissive - imo, the wrong thing to do,  as it is
obvious no ill will was intended on Roxanne's part - quite the
contrary.

5. Anyone who has not seen the original Lumiere films- do it! They are
remarkable and inspiring. But try to find versions that have been
transferred at the correct speed, and  for heaven's sake turn down the
sound they are invariably destroyed with.


Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] question: what do you want in a podcasting network?

[Brook Hinton]

Promotional muscle - ability to spread the word. Basically meaning
they could practically serve as a publicist.

And for me, option to opt out of shared advertising completely and pay
for the services instead.

(The ONE thing that would make me consider a network that monetized
via ads would be the ability of the creator to blacklist specific
companies they don't want associated with or profiting (via publicity)
from their show.)

Brook


On 1/14/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you were going to build your own network. What would the network have to
>  have? I'm finding through my searching that I would like to have a network
>  with a clear plan for monetization; that's my #1 thing, but that's just me.
>
>  What are your top "things" you must have if you were to join a network?
>
>  Or if you can't answer that. What do the most popular podcasting networks
>  lack?
>
>  Jim
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  


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[videoblogging] OT (sorta) - Huge Dreamhost billing screwup, check your accounts

[Brook Hinton]

Howdy Vloggers,

Since I know a lot of you use Dreamhost...

A dreamhost billing error has resulted in many - looks like a lot - of
people being charged huge amounts of money they didn't owe. They know
about it and are "busy refunding", but it has seriously screwed up
people's bank accounts/credit cards/etc., so if you have Dreamhost
check your email for any bills, and check any account(s) that you use
for autopay. It's pretty much a disaster - fortunately my overbill was
pretty small, but their status blog is full of people with bounced
mortgage checks and credit card overlimit charges. And be sure you DO
get reimbursed soon.

Brook
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Re: [videoblogging] OT (sorta) - Huge Dreamhost billing screwup, check your accounts

[Brook Hinton]

I'm just quitting autopay on anything, utility bills and all, period.
This was a wakeup call. Checks and PayPal from here on out.

Not sure about sticking with Dreamhost. My punkrock roots are
screaming at me to go back to all free after this - blogger + blip.

Brook
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

[Brook Hinton]

I share Chris's concerns regarding the effect on potential audience.

I am also concerned about this causing internet cafes and other public
access points to limit the use of video and audio. As a maker, I want
to reach people who DON'T live most of their lives online and may
primarily access the web at such places, or who don't have the
economic means to necessarily even have DSL if they have their own
computer. And I want those people to be MAKING the stuff as well.  If
video and audio are going to be part of the cultural conversation and
/ or the means for artistic expression on the web, they have to stay -
or more accurately, become MORE - economically accessible at the
making and viewing level.

But then I'm a crazy old lefty who thinks we need free wifi all across
the land paid for by our tax dollars. Oh, after we fix health care and
poverty and all that. So I may be ideologically too far out of the
loop to even consider this.

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] A Lumiere is a Moving Picture

[Brook Hinton]

One of the assignments I give students is to make a music video with
no music or sound.

So let's make it a vlogject. The Silencio Project. Silent music
videos. No other restriction - the openness should provide for an
interesting peek into people's minds and philosophies about the moving
image. Tag'em with "silencio". I'll set up a Semanal-like (but simple)
blog where people can post links to their pieces if they wish, but the
tag at least will get picked up by mefeedia etc. If someone else wants
to set up the site, go for it - I wouldn't be able to do it til Monday
and I'd just be using a template anyway since I'm not a coder.



Brook

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[videoblogging] The Silencio Project

[Brook Hinton]

The Silencio Project - or is it a vlogject? - is merely a tag and a
platform on which to create and discuss music videos... but without
music. Visual Music not in the sense of the "visual music" films of
yore, but as an exploration of visual language: what can you make,
using only images, that provokes or evokes the experience of music in
the viewer?

This is a purposefully open definition. No manifesto. If you make
something and tag it with "silencio" we'll know to look at it as a
silent music video.

An open blog for posting your links (a la the Semanal site) will
follow (and if someone  wants to volunteer to do it before my
non-coding self gets to it, great!), but meanwhile just tag your
creations with "silencio".

If you're in, say something here so others might be encouraged to
create as well.

And if you can't think of something for your Semanal posts, here's yet
another readymade assignment for ya.

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] A Lumiere is a Moving Picture

[Brook Hinton]

You know, I didn't mean to hijack Sull's comment about challenging
people to push the music video form.  But it's still a project I think
would be great to get going. I'll start another thread on it for
clarity (and so that ppl not following this one will know about it).

Brook


On 1/17/08, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the assignments I give students is to make a music video with
> no music or sound.
>
> So let's make it a vlogject. The Silencio Project. Silent music
> videos. No other restriction - the openness should provide for an
> interesting peek into people's minds and philosophies about the moving
> image. Tag'em with "silencio". I'll set up a Semanal-like (but simple)
> blog where people can post links to their pieces if they wish, but the
> tag at least will get picked up by mefeedia etc. If someone else wants
> to set up the site, go for it - I wouldn't be able to do it til Monday
> and I'd just be using a template anyway since I'm not a coder.
>
>
>
> Brook
>
> 
> Brook Hinton
> film/video/audio art
> www.brookhinton.com
> studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
>


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Re: [videoblogging] New Video Camera Recomendations?

[Brook Hinton]

You have to spend over 2k to get better than the HV20, and 3x that to
get something recording to disk or cards that is comparable quality.

Another option: a tape based camera (HV20 or Sony or whatever) and a
camera drive, so you can still bypass tape.





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Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

[Brook Hinton]

Is there some equivalent to Godwin's Law regarding free market fights?
There should be.

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: A technical question:

[Brook Hinton]

Simpler than ffmpegx is Mpeg Streamclip. You do need to have either
Compressor, DVD Studio Pro, or purchase the quicktime mpeg2 component
though, but the program itself is free:
www.squared5.com

Basically, yes, you need to get the files out of a temporally
compressed format and into something more FCP-friendly, and do it with
a program that can demux the mpeg2 files in the process.

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Which video do you Embed to your site?

[Brook Hinton]

If I use flash at all I direct people to blip to see it. I prefer to
encourage folks to get a current verson of quicktime so they can see
one of the h.264 versions, which is all I host on my site and the only
thing I embed.

But I'm going to stop embedding. I know a lot of people prefer it, but
I am more and more annoyed by it. I get a much deeper connection to
something when it opens solo on its own distraction free page rather
than playing in the post or in a pop up.

I tried to like embedding. Honest I did. But I'm goin' back to the old
skool way.

Brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which video do you Embed to your site?

[Brook Hinton]

Perhaps I'm thrown by the fact that in the "movie gallery" demo one of
the images stayed stuck on the screen after the box closed, but even
so...

It's ok. More versatile than other similar things. Still has too much
of its own distracting look/feel.

I just like as much nothing as possible with the video. I'm not even
wild about having a controller. And its not just a thing about wanting
MY videos to be seen a certain way - it bugs me MUCH more when it's
other people's videos that I feel I'm not really SEEING unless I
download'em and roll my own viewing options offline.

Empty page with a movie, or black page with a movie, that's what still
works best for me. Though the designer part of me finds this
preference the rest of me has extremely frustrating.

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20 Camera Noise

[Brook Hinton]

Every HV20 seems to have a diffferent level of mechanical noise, but
they are all a bit loud.

The DM50 does not do well vs. the videomics according to those who
have used both. The DM50 is a decidedly consumer product - both the
Rode's are designed to bring pro level sound to high-Z
consumer/prosumer equipment.

Beachtek boxes and the like are great IF you already have a $500+ pro
mic and a good mount for it. I have used them on multiple cameras.
They do NOT improve the mic preamp you are stuck with in the camera
(fortunately the HV20's hi-z preamp isn't nearly as bad as those on
Sony's consumer cams). But the Rode videomics really change this
equation, as they can deliver excellent sound and are DESIGNED for
camtop use. I have a beachtek, phantom power supply, and $900 AT4073s
that I use in a variety of applications, and I even HAVE a camtop
shock mount that works with them, but I'm still going for the videomic
(probably both models) for my HV20. I wish the videomics were smaller
and less "look at me" in appearance, but the only better option there
is the tinymic, and they are uber uber pricey (and that tiny diaphragm
just makes me nervous. How can it be a shotgun mic when my first
impulse is to convert it into a contact mic?)

There are reports that the stereo videomic still picks up camera noise
in very quiet environments, while the shotgun model is less prone to
this.

yeah, lavs solve a lot of problems. For straight "talent on camera"
work a GOOD wireless lav setup is wise, but in general I don't like
the sound of lavs. I prefer even imperfect open sound that has a sense
of space to the sound of lavs, as long as intelligibibility isn't an
issue.

The best sound will always be from an overhead boom as close to the
subject as possible, but that doesn't help the solo filmmaker.

Brook




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: HV20 Camera Noise

[Brook Hinton]

Regular mini dv seems a little more dropout-prone.

Brook


On 2/1/08, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> While we're on the HV20 topic, has anyone noticed any difference in quality
>  when shooting with HD Mini DV tapes VS regular Mini DV tapes?
>
>
>  On Feb 1, 2008 7:51 PM, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > You can also buy shoe shock mounts a la carte for around $30:
>  > http://urltea.com/2mj0
>  >
>  > I have the HV20 with one of those shock mounts and this Azden mic:
>  > http://urltea.com/2mj1
>  >
>  > It's a nice little set up for under $100. The mic picks up only what you
>  > point it at.
>  >
>  > I've found it's necessary to use the external mic at all times. I've only
>  > shot a few things without it, and you can hear the camera mechanism
> pretty
>  > obviously, like in the first 5 seconds of this video:
>  > http://www.vimeo.com/435808
>  >
>  > Other than this minor flaw, the HV20 is the best little camera I've ever
>  > had.
>  >
>  >
>  > On Feb 1, 2008 5:24 PM, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > > Josh it looks like that canon mic doesn't have a shock mount. The Rode
>  > > mic does. Also you put it on a boom pole and run an extension to the
>  > > camera if you want.
>  > >
>  > > - Verdi
>  > >
>  > > On Feb 1, 2008 3:42 PM, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > it looks nice, but compared to the camera I would attach it to, it
>  > > doesn't
>  > > > look very compact:
>  > > > http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5379014
>  > > >
>  > > > the canon does look a little smaller:
>  > > >
> http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o253/alphaelectronics/P9020057.jpg
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > On Feb 1, 2008 4:38 PM, influxxmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > That Rode mic looks pretty sweet. Not least because it has 1/8 mini
>  > > > > jack, bypassing the need
>  > > > > for a converter like the BeachTek. Good to get endorsements from
>  > > many
>  > > > > people.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > What sort of battery life does it get?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > adam
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > --
>  > > > Josh Leo
>  > > >
>  > > > www.JoshLeo.com
>  > > > www.ultrakawaii.com
>  > > > www.WanderingWestMichigan.com
>  > > > www.SlowLorisMedia.com
>  > > >
>  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > http://michaelverdi.com
>  > > http://freevlog.org
>  > > http://nscape.tv
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Adam Quirk
>  > Wreck & Salvage
>  > 551.208.4644
>  > Brooklyn, NY
>  > http://wreckandsalvage.com
>
>  --
>  Adam Quirk
>  Wreck & Salvage
>  551.208.4644
>  Brooklyn, NY
>  http://wreckandsalvage.com
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] QuckTime 7.4 and FCP 4.5HD Disaster

[Brook Hinton]

7.4 also breaks renders over 10 minutes long (that's rendering time,
not project time) in After Effects, and misc. problems have been
reported with pre-FCPStudio2 Apple Pro products as well, though its
the After Effects problem that is significant. Workaround if you
already upgraded is to install 7.3.1 using Pacifist, though apparently
this has to be done very carefully.

Brook
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which WP theme? ufo'splode? show in a box?

[Brook Hinton]

Yup, can't remember if its a software or firmware update, but
basically the old video ipods magically become 640x480/1500k/h.264 (of
a sort) happy once they are updated with it.

On 2/8/08, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That's pretty odd. Have you ever updated the software on your iPod? I
>  have that same model and mine can play the 640 x 480 videos exported
>  with QuickTime Pro.
>
>  - Verdi
>
>  On Feb 8, 2008 7:02 PM, Cheryl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > So far I have not found any settings I can export from QuickTime that
>  > play on my older iPod Video at 640x480, but I haven't tried very hard.
>  > I just keep making smaller versions. 320x240 or 365x205. One day when
>  > I have a whole afternoon to kill, I might experiment. But that day
>  > isn't on the calendar for awhile. I'm lazily relying on the expertise
>  > of others at the moment. :D
>  >
>  > Cheryl
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > > this is a good point.
>  > > It would be easier if we didnt need to transcode an iPod version and
>  > > an apple TV version. (and the iPhone?)
>  > > I'd love to update/add to our compression links here:
>  > > http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/#Compression
>  > > Can we agree on one setting for all three devices?
>  > >
>  > > Jay
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>  --
>  http://michaelverdi.com
>  http://freevlog.org
>  http://nscape.tv
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] ripping video from the web

[Brook Hinton]

1. Install perian - it's an extension to quicktime. www.perian.com.
This lets you open .flv files directly.
2. Use safari. For most sites without downloadable video, you'll be
able to find the video file in the activity window, but it takes a
little practice. Look for "flv" or for files with sizes in mb instead
of kb. Click on the file and it will download.
3. Sometimes you have to rename the downloaded file, if it's flash,
with an flv extension (esp. if its one that downloads a file an names
it "get_video")
4. You can drag the file to quicktime to open it.
5. I prefer mpeg streamclip to quicktime for conversion to dv or
whatever format you'll be editing in. Available free at
www.squared5.com (and you HAVE to use the www for some reason). With
either, be sure you export to quicktime movie using the DV codec, NOT
to a DV Stream (assuming you're going to DV).
6. If you're staying at a small file size like 320x240, photojpeg at
85% or higher is a good alternatitve to DV as an editing codec.

Brook


On 2/9/08, Kathryn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi guys...
>
>  looking for a free, mac compatible program that will let me rip
>  videos from the web and re-edit them... i promise I am not doing
>  anything dishonest, immoral, disrespectful or divisive!!!
>
>  thanks!
>
>  Kathryn
>
>  Kathryn Jones
>  http://www.synchronis.tv
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] ripping video from the web

[Brook Hinton]

whoops sorry bout that.

On 2/9/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>  On Feb 9, 2008 1:08 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > 1. Install perian - it's an extension to quicktime. www.perian.com.
>  > This lets you open .flv files directly.
>
>  Just a correction to what Brook said... the domain is: http://perian.org/
>
>  (It's a .ORG not a .COM.)
>
>  --
>  Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>  http://ChangeLog.ca/
>
>  Motorsport Videos
>  http://TireBiterZ.com/
>
>  Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] How Long Should a Web "season" Be?

[Brook Hinton]

How long do you want it to be? Do you want to have one at all?

1. The ability to do what you want without fitting into the kind of
structures that limit, say, work for television is one of the very
reasons to use the web as a venue in the first place. Why seasons to
begin with?

2. Seasons, though, can be a convenient marking point, like chapters,
like volumes, like any other temporal punctuation. And they provide
you with a nice break between sets of work in a project.

3. Every piece or series or anything has its own correct length,
number of episodes, etc. It's whatever value results in the most
powerful communication of its subject.

Time slots and series packaging are part of what harms the quality of
what's on tv. It's the reason we have to suffer through 58 minute
documentaries on PBS that should be either 47 minutes, 105 minutes, or
52 minutes, or whatever. "Feature length" is part of what encourages
filmmakers to fall back on the same limited variations of Freytag's
pyramid to structure their narratives. Features are this long, plays
have one three or five acts, the opening act should play for 35
minutes... how can anyone know ahead of time the amount of time that's
actually needed? It's like asking painters to leave out the color red,
because it will be supplied in the needed saturation and tint by the
network later on. Time is the primary element of film, video and
sound. So take it back.

On the other hand limitations are liberating.

Just opinions from a ranting editor during a render of someone else's video,

Brook




On 2/9/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I don't know if everyone saw this on NewTeeVee...
>
> http://newteevee.com/2008/02/08/how-long-should-a-web-season-be/
>
>  I thought it was a really interesting article.
>
>  How long should a "season" be for a video blog and Internet TV show?
>
>  Does the concept of a "season" even make sense for every type of vlog out
> there?
>
>  --
>  Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>  http://ChangeLog.ca/
>
>  Motorsport Videos
>  http://TireBiterZ.com/
>
>  Vlog Razor... Vlogging News... http://vlograzor.com/
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Wanna Buy Revver? AND Whose got File Backups??

[Brook Hinton]

I would never trust an outside company to be responsible for my
backups. Or even storage. It is looking, in fact, like I just lost the
negative to a feature I made due to trusting the "complimentary
vaulting" service of a lab. Web companies are an even more unstable
venue.

I don't always have the discipline to follow this, but redundant
digital backups, with one physical set offsite but under your control,
seems the best bet. Check/renew on a 3 to 5 year cycle (definitely 3
if it's tape), and try to load / mount disk based backups a few times
a year just to keep the moving parts remembering what they do.

Hard for us no/low profit low/no staff shops, but we can try.

There is an alternative: let it go. The Buddhist sand painting route.
Make it, throw it out into the world, and delete your copy, forgetting
you ever made it as you focus on the next piece. That one's easier for
us solo folks, harder if you're a business answering to other people's
money.

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] re: LED lights

[Brook Hinton]

Firewire sucks. A client's HV20 just fell victim to a fried port.
Unless you have a dedicated firewire BUS (not port) with the ability
to turn its power on or off for each device, things will fry.

But on the camera/deck end, for DV and HDV, it's all we've got unless
you go with a tower and an uncompressed card. At least we now have
eSATA for drives.

Brook


On 2/13/08, Brian Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I LOVE LEDs. just make sure you get some CTO to compensate for the
>  color temp that tends to be cold, in which case, they're great to
>  balance with daylight. but it's soft and energy saving and usually
>  comes with a dimmer. aside from the on-board panels, DP Joaquín
>  Baca-Asay (DP of "Thumbsucker") swears by 1x1 ft LED panels for soft
>  natural light.
>
>  good luck.
>  -brian
>
>  On 2/11/08, JD Lasica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi Markus,
>  >
>  > No, the lowlife who stole my Canon Digital Rebel didn't return it, so
>  > I need to buy a new digital camera, but that's for another list. :~)
>  >
>  > If you're in the market for an LED light, I discovered that the DV
>  > Estore (www.dvestore.com) in Washington state sells them for $299 plus
>  > $8 shipping.
>  >
>  > jd lasica
>  > realpeoplenetwork.com
>  > ourmedia.org
>  >
>
>  --
>  Brian Gonzalez
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  210-683-6027
>  taxiplasm.net
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: LED lights

[Brook Hinton]

It's insane, because the common wisdom about the way to protect the
camera port and the way to protect drives conflicts. For cameras, yes,
connect with everything powered down is what some mfrs. have said. For
drives, it's turn everything on, then connect (and always unmount
before disconnnect, sleep, or shutdown).  Does a lot of good when
you're using a portable system with everything on one bus.

I wish my eSATA expresscard could do more than two devices.
Performance on eSATA ime blows firewire 800 away too.

Brook


On 2/14/08, influxxmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So is the rule of thumb to connect all devices THEN power up. Can we connect
> a DV cam to a
>  CPU already on, then power up the cam?
>
>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Firewire sucks. A client's HV20 just fell victim to a fried port.
>  > Unless you have a dedicated firewire BUS (not port) with the ability
>  > to turn its power on or off for each device, things will fry.
>  >
>  > But on the camera/deck end, for DV and HDV, it's all we've got unless
>  > you go with a tower and an uncompressed card. At least we now have
>  > eSATA for drives.
>  >
>  > Brook
>  >
>  >
>
>  


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

[Brook Hinton]

Charles, are you implying "normal" people don't want to watch (let
alone make) art or "arty" things? There's a lot of art and "arty" as
well in the videoblogging world and among those in this group.  The
phrasing of your question is pretty insulting.

Brook


>  > On 2/19/08, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > What type of works are they looking for?
>  > >
>  > > Only artsy type stuff? Or are they accepting the type of things that
>  > > "normal" people would watch.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > See ya
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>  > > http://ChangeLog.ca/
>  > >

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: we should all enter this one

[Brook Hinton]

Whoops just saw your followup. Gosh golly, you're right, I guess I
don't have any "layman" or "common people" in my audience.  Only
"royalty" and "criminals"/

Sheesh.

Brook





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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recording users movements

[Brook Hinton]

While I can see why incredibly useful information could come from this, it
creeps me out.  It's still freaky to me that I can see where people came
FROM when they come to my site. And even though it looks like this tool
wouldn't really reveal anything "private", it still gives me pause - and
would probably be a negative in terms of my feelings about a site that I
knew was using it.
But then I'm obviously, by choice, not in the keep people from being bored
business, so I'm not all that enticed by the benefits to begin with.


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Re: [videoblogging] Not an example of transparency

[Brook Hinton]

Disgusting.

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/02/25/comcast-blocking-first-the-internet-now-the-public/
>
> There was huge turnout at today's public hearing in Boston on the future
> of
> > the Internet. Hundreds of concerned citizens arrived to speak out on the
> > importance of an open Internet. Many took the day off from work —
> standing
> > outside in the Boston cold — to see the FCC Commissioners. But when they
> > reach the door, they're told they couldn't come in.
> > ..
> > Comcast — or someone who really, really likes Comcast — evidently bused
> in
> > its own crowd. These seat-warmers, were paid to fill the room, a move
> that
> > kept others from taking part.
> >
>
> It turns out that Comcast admits they paid people to fill seats:
>
> http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/top-5/2008/02/26/Comcast-FCC-Hearing-Strategy
>
> Comcast spokewoman Jennifer Khoury said the company paid some people to
> > arrive early and hold places in the queue for local Comcast employees
> who
> > wanted to attend the hearing. Some of those placeholders, however, did
> more
> > than wait in line: they filled many of the seats at the meeting,
> according
> > to eyewitnesses. As a result, scores of Comcast critics and other
> members of
> > the public were denied entry because the room filled up well before the
> > beginning of the hearing.
> >
>
> Can't these companies just be open about what they want and convince
> people
> honestly?
> One this is clear:
>
> > Comcast wants<
> http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2008/02/15/comcasts-closed-internet/>the
> former — to dictate which Web sites and services go fast, slow or don't
> > load at all. And they're backed by the other would-be gatekeepers<
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080219-cable-and-telcos-side-with-comcast-in-fcc-bittorrent-dispute.html>at
> AT&T, Verizon and Time Warner.
> >
> Jay
>
>
> --
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Re: [videoblogging] Sony Vegas v. Final Cut

[Brook Hinton]

It's impossible to judge things like workflow when comparing applications
like these without knowing the specific task. How much effects work do you
do? What kind? How complex are your audio needs? Do you need to animate
masks? Are you mostly cuts only and need the fasted mouse-free interface you
can get?
There are people for whom imovie is overkill. There are people who find all
of FCP Studio together or an entire suite of Avid products to be less than
what they need, and dream of a laptop Smoke/Flame app that works in real
time (c'mon Autodesk, put some resources into Combustion!)  There are people
who do everything in After Effects and are perfectly happy without a more
targeted editing application. There are sound designers who can do most of
their work within FCP or Avid, others who wouldn't dream of anything but
Protools, others who can't imagine mixing without Logic's plugins.
Among editing pros its an Avid and FCP world, period. (that doesn't include
FCP express). But on the PC side, Vegas does get some serious respect, and
at this point that's a unique niche.

In the end, its the editor, not the app, that matters - unless the app
crashes every five minutes.


Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ideology

[Brook Hinton]

I think a slightly modified version of Scoop Nisker's "If you don't like the
news go out and make some of your own" applies here.
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Re: [videoblogging] camera advice

[Brook Hinton]

I've worked with both.

If you put aside the format question, the Panasonic is light years beyond
the Sony in every other respect. It's an incredible camera.The Sony model is
basically a hacked consumer HDV that adds a semi-pro mic interface. The
image quality is inferior to that of  the Canon HV20 which costs less than
half as much, but you do get the mic interface, a focus ring instead of a
focus dial, and a more professional looking camera than the HV20 if that
matters. On the minus side, you also get the horrible Sony touch-screen
interface.

For my money, the DVX100 is the only SD camera on the market still worth
considering, and if I had to choose between these two cameras for a shoot
I'd pick the Panasonic unless HD was absolutely required as a delivery
format - and even then, I might opt for the panasonic in 24P if the budget
for a really high quality upconversion was available - though that budget
could just as well be applied to a higher end XDCam of DVCProHD rig.

I think that for HDV, once you get below the $5000 price range, the HV20 is
the only one worth the money unless you are doing paid work that REQUIRES
hdv and don't have the budget for Sony EX1 or the Panasonic HVX200.



Brook


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I've used the Panasonic as a rental camera before, and it's quite nice.
> It has a lot of manual control for audio & video settings, a nice lens
> and good on-board mic performance.
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09 pm, Heath wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the below models
> >
> > Panasonic Pro AG-DVX100B
> > Sony HVR-A1U CMOS High Definition Camcorder
> --
> Brian Richardson
> - http://whatthecast.com
> - http://siliconchef.com
> - http://dragoncontv.com
> - http://www.3chip.com
>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] camera advice

[Brook Hinton]

I should clarify - the HV20 is NOT a good choice for paid work unless you
are really experienced with it and know how to tweak it, have a client who
understands that "that thing that looks like it came out of a cereal box"
can produce excellent images, and ideally - if you'll be projecting - you
can work with a field monitor or a third party high res LCD for focusing.
The overall image quality is indeed better than its far more expensive
competition, and it does do 24P (as long as you're willing to edit in ProRes
or a similar codec in post), but manual control and focusing require some
serious practice with it.

Brook


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've worked with both.
>
> If you put aside the format question, the Panasonic is light years beyond
> the Sony in every other respect. It's an incredible camera.The Sony model
> is basically a hacked consumer HDV that adds a semi-pro mic interface. The
> image quality is inferior to that of  the Canon HV20 which costs less than
> half as much, but you do get the mic interface, a focus ring instead of a
> focus dial, and a more professional looking camera than the HV20 if that
> matters. On the minus side, you also get the horrible Sony touch-screen
> interface.
>
> For my money, the DVX100 is the only SD camera on the market still worth
> considering, and if I had to choose between these two cameras for a shoot
> I'd pick the Panasonic unless HD was absolutely required as a delivery
> format - and even then, I might opt for the panasonic in 24P if the budget
> for a really high quality upconversion was available - though that budget
> could just as well be applied to a higher end XDCam of DVCProHD rig.
>
> I think that for HDV, once you get below the $5000 price range, the HV20
> is the only one worth the money unless you are doing paid work that REQUIRES
> hdv and don't have the budget for Sony EX1 or the Panasonic HVX200.
>
>
>
> Brook
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >   I've used the Panasonic as a rental camera before, and it's quite
> > nice.
> > It has a lot of manual control for audio & video settings, a nice lens
> > and good on-board mic performance.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:09 pm, Heath wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the below models
> > >
> > > Panasonic Pro AG-DVX100B
> > > Sony HVR-A1U CMOS High Definition Camcorder
> > --
> > Brian Richardson
> > - http://whatthecast.com
> > - http://siliconchef.com
> > - http://dragoncontv.com
> > - http://www.3chip.com
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ___
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> film/video/audio art
> www.brookhinton.com
> studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: camera advice

[Brook Hinton]

The IMAGE *is* that good. The CAMERA has serious limitations - the praise
for it is primarily based on it packing so much into such a small and cheap
camera, and the fact that they found a way to tweak the CMOS chip to give
better low light and noise performance than other cameras using the
same/similar chip. But manual control, while it can be done, is not at a
professional level (again, there are hacks to, for example, get a real f
stop reading, but it doesn't natively provide it), and I'll say again that
the focusing is such a pain with that little dial that for the first time in
my life I actually use auto-focus (which, with the "instant auto focus", is
surprisingly good) and then lock it rather than focusing by eye for most
shots, unless its a formal shoot with a field monitor.

24P workflow is tricky because it doesn't embed flags for pulldown removal
in the datastream (and doesn't have the equivalent of 24PA for lossless
pulldown removal which is kind of a moot point with HDV anyway). If you need
to edit IN 24P you have to jump through a few hoops. If you have FCP Studio
2 it is much easier, but you still have to put everything through compressor
to remove pulldown. (Of course if you don't have to deal with film out, PAL,
or a 24P HDcam master, you can just edit the 24P at 29.97 and everything
works just fine. And you can always shoot good ol' 60i).

But for what is it now, $800? Pretty amazing.

Oh, the other drawback is that it is still HDV, which imo is a severely
compromised format, but you don't get to move up from that in HD land until
you're at the $6000 level.  The higher end Canon HDV stuff mentioned here by
others is indeed superior on the camera level and more similar to the DVX100
in layout/features (albeit pricey), though it's still HDV and if you need
24P the 24"f" version on those cameras has less resolution than the HV20's
true 24P, though that's more than made up for by the lenses and cam
features.

Brook




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: camera advice

[Brook Hinton]

On the other hand there is an argument to be made AGAINST shoulder mounted
ENG style cameras for handheld use, depending on one's goals. Straight doc
and news style shooting, yup, great, stability, relative lack of body pain
and otherwise good ergonomics. But once you need to go into a wider range of
compositional possiblities, there is a lot to be said for smaller cameras on
guerilla shoots, despite the additional wear and tear on the
filmmaker/operator's body.
I used to miss shoulder mounted cameras, and even thought about those
shoulder mount attachments for smaller cams. Not anymore. Last time I had to
shoot handheld with a CineAlta my first reaction was how in the hell am I
going to move gracefully upside down and under that table and then whip
around to catch so and so's face from a low-ish angle  right as the come in
the door.

Brook



On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "josheklow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm shopping around for a new camera for vlogging as well as other
> video projects.
> 
>
> Will the camera be hand-held? So far the discussion has been about
> specs and
> image quality somehow devoid from the shooter.
>
> I would like to see a decent, but inexpensive, shoulder camera brought
> into the discussion. The Sony HVR HD1000 is interesting for event and
> documentary shooting and the price is right. I have not seen it yet
> (live in the stix) but the form factor looks as if one could hold it
> for hours and hours and be steady and fluid. Unfortunately it is
> often described as a camera to make you look like a "pro", but that
> seems to be marketeers hype rather than the experience of someone who
> has been shooting for several hours at a time.
>
> I have found the ergonomics for most cameras very disappointing. They
> seem designed for use on sticks or for short takes when they are
> hand-held.
>
> Stan Hirson
> http://hestakaup.com
>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: He passed away on March 27

[Brook Hinton]

I am really really glad you accidentally posted this here.

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Re: [videoblogging] Flash & H.264 playlists using the Jeroen Wijering media player

[Brook Hinton]

This is so great, Michael, thanks for your generous sharing of it.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: slightly off topic, what did you use to build website?

[Brook Hinton]

Another option for a program with some WYSIWYG tools is NVU, which is
basically stripped-down, open-source Dreamweaver (and free). I've used it
quite a bit (because I can only hack my way around hand coding), and it's
buggy and like Dreamweaver needs to have its code edited sometimes (even by
a hack like myself), but it works and you can't beat the price.
A qualifier: my non-blogging web design needs and tastes run to super super
super simple and minimalist. I don't like anything to move or pop up on my
screen unless its a video clip.

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] Product placement

[Brook Hinton]

Personally, I am way more bothered by product placement than outright
advertising. If I'm going to be fucked with - excuse me I mean "targeted" by
marketers willing to exploit weaknesses in my human nature to get me to buy
stuff I don't need with money I don't have before discarding the packaging
onto a planet that can't take it, I prefer the tactics to be overt
and conspicuous. And as a maker, the idea of a sponsor dictating what goes
in the frame is even worse than that of some network hack telling me to cut
the best material in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
There have to be other ways to make work sustain-ably.


Brook "these crankypants are the wrong size and were probably made in a
sweatshop" Hinton

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: question about Rode and DVX100B

[Brook Hinton]

I think the Rode is high impedance, so you need more than an adapter you
need an actual impedance matching transformer to get good sound, but
something else is amiss if you are getting NO sound. Have you tried both mic
inputs? The switches are definitely set correctly? Levels are up?
Brook

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Yea, and I am getting no sound at all, tried the Mic setting, the
> line in setting, every setting that I can think of, I know it should
> work, but for the life of me I can't figure out why it's not, I
> changed batteries, etc...I know it's not an ideal situation but I was
> hoping to put off for another few months having to buy another mic
> for the DVX.
>
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
> http://heathparks.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm not familiar with The Rode VideoMic. Sounds like it has an
> 1/8"
> > mini plug? and you have a 1/8 mini to XLR adapter that you are
> using
> > to plug the mic into the DVX100b??
> >
> > It may be a line-level vs. mike level thing. Have you tried
> toggling
> > the switches on the DVX from mic to line / trying them out?
> >
> > What kind of result are you getting? ie: a sound with buzzing in
> it?
> > or no sound at all?
> >
> > Jen
> >
> >
> >
> > Jen Simmons
> > http://jensimmons.com
> >
> >
> > On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Heath wrote:
> >
> > > I just bought the Panasonic DVX100B and I was hoping to still be
> able
> > > to use my Rode VideoMic for the time being and just get an
> adapter.
> > > Well it does not seem to be working. I know it's not the adapter
> > > because it's works with my handheld microphone. So does anyone
> know
> > > about this? Anyone have the Rode and the any camera that has XLR
> > > inputs? Any help is appreciated
> > >
> > > Heath
> > > http://batmangeek.com
> > > http://heathparks.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: question about Rode and DVX100B

[Brook Hinton]

Oh, and I THINK (can't remember) there is a mic pad in the menu if not in
the audio routing switches, make sure that is off too.

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the Rode is high impedance, so you need more than an adapter you
> need an actual impedance matching transformer to get good sound, but
> something else is amiss if you are getting NO sound. Have you tried both mic
> inputs? The switches are definitely set correctly? Levels are up?
> Brook
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Yea, and I am getting no sound at all, tried the Mic setting, the
>> line in setting, every setting that I can think of, I know it should
>> work, but for the life of me I can't figure out why it's not, I
>> changed batteries, etc...I know it's not an ideal situation but I was
>> hoping to put off for another few months having to buy another mic
>> for the DVX.
>>
>>
>> Heath
>> http://batmangeek.com
>> http://heathparks.com
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
>> Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I'm not familiar with The Rode VideoMic. Sounds like it has an
>> 1/8"
>> > mini plug? and you have a 1/8 mini to XLR adapter that you are
>> using
>> > to plug the mic into the DVX100b??
>> >
>> > It may be a line-level vs. mike level thing. Have you tried
>> toggling
>> > the switches on the DVX from mic to line / trying them out?
>> >
>> > What kind of result are you getting? ie: a sound with buzzing in
>> it?
>> > or no sound at all?
>> >
>> > Jen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jen Simmons
>> > http://jensimmons.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Heath wrote:
>> >
>> > > I just bought the Panasonic DVX100B and I was hoping to still be
>> able
>> > > to use my Rode VideoMic for the time being and just get an
>> adapter.
>> > > Well it does not seem to be working. I know it's not the adapter
>> > > because it's works with my handheld microphone. So does anyone
>> know
>> > > about this? Anyone have the Rode and the any camera that has XLR
>> > > inputs? Any help is appreciated
>> > >
>> > > Heath
>> > > http://batmangeek.com
>> > > http://heathparks.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>>  
>>
>
>
>
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> www.brookhinton.com
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>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: question about Rode and DVX100B

[Brook Hinton]

The recording levels, if I remember correctly the two level dials are below
the mic routing switches.
A common "no sound" error is to have the mic plugged into, say, mic input
one while the switches have input two routed to both channels. Or vice
versa. It's usually a switches thing.

Brook


On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   I will have to look at the settings again, I thought it was off, but
> I'm not sure, you also mentioned "Levels", what exacatly did you
> mean? Sometimes the termanoligy thoughs me...
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
> http://heatharks.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Brook Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh, and I THINK (can't remember) there is a mic pad in the menu if
> not in
> > the audio routing switches, make sure that is off too.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I think the Rode is high impedance, so you need more than an
> adapter you
> > > need an actual impedance matching transformer to get good sound,
> but
> > > something else is amiss if you are getting NO sound. Have you
> tried both mic
> > > inputs? The switches are definitely set correctly? Levels are up?
> > > Brook
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yea, and I am getting no sound at all, tried the Mic setting,
> the
> > >> line in setting, every setting that I can think of, I know it
> should
> > >> work, but for the life of me I can't figure out why it's not, I
> > >> changed batteries, etc...I know it's not an ideal situation but
> I was
> > >> hoping to put off for another few months having to buy another
> mic
> > >> for the DVX.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Heath
> > >> http://batmangeek.com
> > >> http://heathparks.com
> > >>
> > >> --- In 
> > >> videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
>
> > >> Jen Simmons 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not familiar with The Rode VideoMic. Sounds like it has an
> > >> 1/8"
> > >> > mini plug? and you have a 1/8 mini to XLR adapter that you are
> > >> using
> > >> > to plug the mic into the DVX100b??
> > >> >
> > >> > It may be a line-level vs. mike level thing. Have you tried
> > >> toggling
> > >> > the switches on the DVX from mic to line / trying them out?
> > >> >
> > >> > What kind of result are you getting? ie: a sound with buzzing
> in
> > >> it?
> > >> > or no sound at all?
> > >> >
> > >> > Jen
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Jen Simmons
> > >> > http://jensimmons.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Heath wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I just bought the Panasonic DVX100B and I was hoping to
> still be
> > >> able
> > >> > > to use my Rode VideoMic for the time being and just get an
> > >> adapter.
> > >> > > Well it does not seem to be working. I know it's not the
> adapter
> > >> > > because it's works with my handheld microphone. So does
> anyone
> > >> know
> > >> > > about this? Anyone have the Rode and the any camera that has
> XLR
> > >> > > inputs? Any help is appreciated
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Heath
> > >> > > http://batmangeek.com
> > >> > > http://heathparks.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > film/video/audio art
> > > www.brookhinton.com
> > > studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
>
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Re: [videoblogging] question about Rode and DVX100B

[Brook Hinton]

Isn't the shotgun model mono? I thought only $250 model was stereo. If its
the latter model, yup, you'll TRS mini>dual XLR connector.
Brook


On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Don't forget that the Rode is a stereo mic, so the adapter has to be
> wired to take this into account. Some mono 1/8 to XLR adapters won't
> work.
>
> Also, there will be an impedance mismatch unless you use an adapter with
> an impedance matching transformer.
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:12 pm, Rupert wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure you should be able to use the Rode with the DVX using
> > the adapter - there are people talking about doing this OK in forums,
> > if you google.
> > Assuming that it *should* work, the only thing that will get you
> > there is systematic trial and error testing of each device.
> > First thing, try plugging the Rode into another recording device -
> > make sure it's working OK.
> > If so, then it's something in the camera or the adapter that's wrong
> > - either turned off, or switched to the wrong setting.
> > Switch between the Line/Mic setting in the menu.
> > Make sure you know which specific Audio input you're using and check
> > in the menu that it's ON and the recording levels are up, in the
> > camera menu.
> > Is the adapter powered? Could you try turning on and off the power in
> > the adapter *and* the phantom power in the camera?
> > Keep turning everything on and off, trying every combination.
> > If you're out of all other options, I guess, you could read the
> > manual, see if there are any hidden tips ;)
> >
> >
> > On 24 Apr 2008, at 02:43, Heath wrote:
> >
> > I just bought the Panasonic DVX100B and I was hoping to still be able
> > to use my Rode VideoMic for the time being and just get an adapter.
> > Well it does not seem to be working. I know it's not the adapter
> > because it's works with my handheld microphone. So does anyone know
> > about this? Anyone have the Rode and the any camera that has XLR
> > inputs? Any help is appreciated
> >
> > Heath
> > http://batmangeek.com
> > http://heathparks.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> Brian Richardson
> - http://whatthecast.com
> - http://siliconchef.com
> - http://dragoncontv.com
> - http://www.3chip.com
>
>  
>



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[videoblogging] Product Placement post on Media Nipple

[Brook Hinton]

The always excellent Media Nipple does a provocative
multiple-vid-and-graphic post on Product Placement:
   insidious product placement




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[videoblogging] Re: Product Placement post on Media Nipple

[Brook Hinton]

For some reason that link did not post correctly. Here it is:
http://medianipple.blogspot.com/2008/04/insidious-product-placement.html

Brook

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The always excellent Media Nipple does a provocative
> multiple-vid-and-graphic post on Product Placement:
>insidious product placement   
> <http://www.culturalfarming.com/Civic%20Media/bouleversement.htm>
>
>
>
> Brook
> www.brookhinton.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Jonas Mekas

[Brook Hinton]

I'm really curious how his online experiment through the Maya Stendahl
gallery went, a large part of which was a pay-per-post daily vlog. Did
anyone follow any of it? I've been so surprised by how little the audience
for a-g/personal film and the audience for a-g/personal online cinema work
overlaps.
On the other hand I couldn't afford to follow much of the paid portion of
Jonas' online work.

I just took another look at the site (www.jonasmekas.com) and there's a lot
there, including some intriguing guest filmmaker work ($2.99 for a 40 minute
Bruce Baillie video? I'll take it.)

Brook



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Easy implement pay-per-download?

[Brook Hinton]

Why not go the simple route? Make a password protected section on your site,
use paypal to take payments (I think you can do subscriptions via paypal
now), when people sign up they get the password. Sure, there'll be cheaters,
but cheaters aren't gonna pay you anyway, they'll get it free or not at
all.
After many years of various self-employed ultra small business variations,
I've  learned simple is almost always best, even if it means less of a
"margin".







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Re: [videoblogging] Grad Student Research - Profile of a Video Blogger

[Brook Hinton]

1. How did you get into vlogging?
There wasn't really a "how". I'm a film/video artist, the videoblog seemed a
logical format and venue to explore.
2. How long have you been blogging?
Two or three years.

3. What provides inspiration for your vlog posts?
Making images and sounds is inseparable from who I am. It's how I exist in
the world.  A videoblog is a form and a venue for this,

4. How often do you post?
>From once a day to once every couple of months. Depends on the
project/time/other work.

5. Is your video blog a business or a hobby?
No. It's part of my filmmaking, which has a business side to it, but it's
not a business and it's not a hobby.

6. What motivates you to continue updating your video blog?
When something needs to be there, there it goes. I don't look for
motivation.

7. How long does it take you to post (from the idea->filming->posting)?
Shortest: two hours. Longest: over a year.

8. If you have a site you would like to share (personal or just one you
like) please list here:
www.patrickpower.com. The late Patrick Power was doing this when no one was
calling it videoblogging.

brook

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue

[Brook Hinton]

' mode that is then
> > > 'wrapped' in a 60i format.
> > >
> > > when you import the footage into FInal Cut, it is a 60i file.
> > >
> > > i shoot in progressive ( P format ) specifically for the web, and now
> > > it looks like i will have to de-interlace this HV-20 footage before
> > > uploading to Blip, etc.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any experience with this or suggestions?
> > >
> > > i just learned that Canon's new camera , the HV-30 shoots in true
> > > 30P, so i may be selling this one and getting the new model , as i
> > > really want the progressive format.
> > >
> > > thx, eric. www.gree-house.tv
> > >
> > > Gardenfork and Real World Green
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canon HV-20 24p-60i issue

[Brook Hinton]

You know, I thought I was responding to a different mailing list on which
the tone of that would have been more appropriate and taken with a grain of
salt, so please excuse the haughty tone and some irrelevant material within.
Sorry!!! (slinking off to a corner)

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is 24p. Real 24p. It is just 24p with 3:2 pulldown added. It is no
> different in that sense from film footage you've had telecine'd or 24p (as
> opposed to PA) DVX100 footage. And unlike the XH-A1 and its ilk, it is true
> 24P rather than the pixel shift res-compromised fakery (effective as it is)
> of 24F.
> It is not a big deal once you are used to it, and forces your hand to move
> your footage out of the gawdawful HDV format in the process. Apple has a doc
> on their site that deals specifically with the camera and their process,
> which is basically just removing the pulldown in compressor while converting
> to prores (or another non-temporally-compressed codec of your choice). You
> can also use the free downloadable JES deinterlacer program to do it. Or for
> that matter After Effects.
>
> Occasionally - and i mean it is REALLY rare - JES or compressor will
> misinterpret the cadence. SO you redo a couple of clips. Oh well. Remember
> waiting for film to be ready at the lab? This is really no big deal, just
> not as seamless as it is with a DVX or HVX or, I assume,  the XH-A1. To get
> this (and the rest of what it does) out of a $700 camera is a miracle.
>
> Here is my process, which I use constantly:
>
> 1. Capture using capture now at 29.97. 20 minutes or a whole tape. Why
> capture now (which I normally tell students to NEVER use)? Because FCP
> automatically separates each clip on capture due to the HV20's manner of
> dealing with timecode in 24p mode.
>
> 2. Load'em up in compressor or JES, or highlight them in the browser and do
> it from FCP.
>
> 3. Export to prores, aic, photojpeg @ 75% quality or higher, or DVCproHD in
> compressor. Set frame controls in the preset to do a reverse telecine before
> you do it. If you're going to do this a lot, make a preset, or better yet a
> droplet. I use prores HQ at 1440x1080. (there is no quality advantage at
> this stage to using 1920 - some would argue there is no quality advantage to
> HQ coming from HDV, but if really stretch things around in post processing
> like I do you definitely will see a difference in the end).
>
> I capture, reverse telecine, and edit 24p footage from the HV20 almost
> every day.
>
> Now if they can just move the manual focus controls and add one more
> control so I can control aperture and shutter simultaneously without
> tricking the camera interface I'll start to feel actually warm and fuzzy
> about the thing. Still, it's a miracle for the money.
>
>
> Brook
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Bill Cammack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>   Kary has the basics down.
>>
>> I use a Canon HV20 and shoot in "24P". It's not actually 24
>> progressive frames per second. It records 24 progressive frames
>> across 60 interlaced frames.
>>
>> What this means is you have to do a double process. The first one is
>> to import the video as HDV into Final Cut. Once you do that, you use
>> "reveal in finder" to find the clips in your capture scratch bin, then
>> you import those files into Compressor. There are some settings you
>> have to make... something like setting deinterlacing to "reverse
>> telecine" and setting the fps to 23.978 and probably some other stuff,
>> but that's outlined in the Apple docs. You only have to do it once,
>> and then you use that preset for every clip you import.
>>
>> As you can tell, time-wise, that's a drag. Another thing you can do,
>> assuming you're not delivering in 1080 is set up your Compressor
>> preset to translate the footage to 1280x720. Oh, that's another
>> thing. Translate the HDV footage into Apple ProRes.
>>
>> Anyway, once all that's done, the video's great. :) Once you set it
>> up in Compressor, the process takes a long time, but your final
>> result's fantastic for $700.
>>
>> Bill Cammack
>> http://billcammack.com
>>
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
>> "Kary Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Apple has some info on the HV-20/Final Cut workflow to get 1080p24
>> footage
>> > into the editor. Short version is you have to import it as 60i and then
>> > reverse telecine each clip with either Cinema Tools or Compresso

Re: [videoblogging] Re:From Mac *TO* PC -- Should I Switch?

[Brook Hinton]

When you buy a mac you are not primariiy paying for hardware. You are
primarily buying a specific type of functionality and a specific
manifestation of a computing experience, wrapped in a piece of industrial
design. On a secondary level (primary for some), you are
buying compatibility with a set of applications from apple and other
manufacturers that work together in a particular way on macs (and in some
cases are not available for windows). Hardware is just the base.  Which is
why if you only care about hardware power (and especially if you care about
it in a bang for the buck way), and assuming you like Windows ok, you should
not get a mac.
I'm not one of those people. Hardware and power matter to me, but not nearly
as much as the rest.

If the HP ran OSX, had totally smooth and mostly intuitive integration with
the applications I need, required bare minimum techy involvement from me,
was beautifully designed to the extent that it doesn't look too much like
"gear" and was aesthetically pleasing, I would fully expect to pay much more
for it, as I did for my Macbook Pro.  For whatever reason, I need to forget
that I am using a computer when I use a computer or else I just want to
throw it out the window. Apple is STILL not there in that regard, but they
get closer and closer. The MBP is the first computer I have owned in 20
years of computing that doesn't induce a little cringe when I fire it up
(that includes previous macs, though none were as bad as the previous
windows systems I had). It actually kinda makes me happy, which is kind of
disturbing if I think about it.

But yes, the customer service at Apple is not what it used to be.

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[videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

[Brook Hinton]

Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk.
I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made
for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an
experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would focus
on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/sustainability, and
anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline
context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also any
concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks.


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Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

[Brook Hinton]

Hey everybody thank you so much for all the responses, I am sorry to be
tardy replying - work has been limiting my time on this - but I will respond
in more depth to everyone shortly. Thanks!


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: help with streched letterboxed video?

[Brook Hinton]

You also may be getting the double-anamorphic effect that comes from
changing anamorphic settings of a sequence after anamorphic clips are
already in (and other such scenarios where FCP's behavior is based on
relative rather than fixed changes). For this, their solution would be to
manually change the aspect ratio if the clips in the motion tab, match frame
and reedit the clips, or (as long as there isn't any other basic motion
stuff going on) just change one clip and copy-paste basic motion attributes
to the rest.
This doesn't help you now of course - what the people delivering the
material really need to do is edit anamorphic in an anamorphic sequence from
the get go, then if they want letterboxed they can nest it into  into a 4:3
sequence (or deliver 16:9 to you leaving you with all the options).

Brook




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

[Brook Hinton]

I hate YouTube's image quality, which is for most purposes a deal breaker
for me. That said...
I know people who have found amazing and deep community via YouTube. I have
one friend who has a dedicated following of a at least a couple hundred
people on YouTube, and around whom incredible video dialogue has sprouted up
that represents pretty much the best of what this particular type of
first-person vlogging can be. She did this with no attempt at promotion (and
in fact doesn't allow subscribers and has her embed codes blocked, which I
didn't know you could do). She is also 78 years old, a gifted artist, and
quite an inspiration to be around, which is a big part of why she's found
such a dynamic home there, but there are others who have as well. She has a
similar (though not quite as large) following and community situation on
LiveVideo, where she started - she came to YouTube after LiveVideo, somewhat
skeptically after a crosspost of some kind was addressed to her.

She does, however, post several times a week, responds thoughtfully to her
commenters, makes response videos to other people, etc. I suspect that
without that level of participation, one becomes just another random maker
/poster of videos on YouTube, subject to the trends and behaviors described
(I believe accurately) by Bill, Rupert, and others here.

If you want to check out her YouTube world - www.youtube.com/atree3

The image quality on YouTube is not only abysmal, but is responsible for the
negative impression many filmmakers have of online video - an impression
that keeps them from exploring it as a venue.



Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Decline in posts to this group.

[Brook Hinton]

Vlogging is evolving. What "vlogging" means to people outside this group is
also evolving.
Search for "vlogging" on You Tube. You'll note a) it is now a wildly popular
form, and b) what is meant by "vlogging" on YouTube is very specifically
first person, audience-addressed video, usually someone talking to the
camera, sometimes someone talking to the camera with a more creative visual
approach. What it is not is shows, series, conceptual approaches to
serialized video, or many of the other things vlogging pioneers on this list
have created and consider to be videoblogging.

I remember when "ambient" became a mainstream term. The meaning changed
drastically, and some of us in the electronic/noise music community had a
lot of trouble accepting that what we thought of as ambient music was now r
lumped in with stuff that seemed to be its antithesis or in some cases would
be not even be recognized as representative of a form it had pioneered. Once
a term mainstreams at that level there's nothing for it.

In this case the change, if you think about it, is in some sense going in
the opposite direction: a refining of the term that really does encompass
the roots of the form. Some of the best stuff from people on this list
absolutely meets this refined criteria. But some of the best stuff,
including some of what we think of as the first important vlogs, doesn't.
And mine certainly doesn't, fwiw.

I suspect most people now believe vlogging started on youtube. I suspect
there are "fans" of vlogging who have never encountered serial video on
someone's own personal site. They go to one place for their (pixelated mess
of) video, and that's that. They don't RSS and they never will. Most people
who don't work or socialize in the tech world will never use RSS, just as
they will never twitter or anything like it. Social media is a quick log in
to facebook before returning to work after lunch. Video distribution is
youtube video links exchanged via email or sms.

This group is a remarkable resource and a remarkable group of people. Posts
will ebb and flow. It's ok. But there is definitely not a reduction in the
amount of videoblogging going on - there is, however, a change in where it's
happening and in the cultural meaning of the term. It doesn't matter. The
list will go on as long as it needs to, the real connections between people
will survive. And the definition may be irrelevant now. Just make what you
must make. Let other people define it, and ignore them if it bugs you.

Video on the web is now common. It is no big deal.  Maybe it was "leave
britney alone" that did it, maybe it happened before - I suspect the latter
- but vlogging, as defined by the YouTube world, is now a mainstream genre.

Brook




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Re: [videoblogging] I Want My Vlog to Look Like a Porno Site

[Brook Hinton]

You mean you want users to be directed to your videoblog without intending
to go there after innocently following an unrelated google search link,
scream as fifty other windows pop up with all sorts of things they had hoped
never to see, try in vain to turn down the sound when suddenly a pitch for
car insurance AND a recording of someone screaming during an intimate moment
begin simultaneously, watch in wonder/horror as parts of their screen get
replaced by little colored boxes, hit "cancel" over and over as "would you
like to scan your computer for porn and viruses NOW" message boxes pop up in
an endless loop, and then panic as nothing works to shut down the computer?
:-)


>
> On 22-Jun-08, at 11:45 AM, Mike Moon wrote:
>
> I truly want the same look as some porno sites.
> I want the visitor to be bombarded with video
> choices.________
>
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Re: [videoblogging] my favorite vlog template of the week

[Brook Hinton]

I HATE that scroll-through-thumbnail-strip navigation. Ugh. It's like
channel surfing, not choosing.This feels like TV. (disclaimer: personal
anti-tv / pro-theater / pro-net-video bias).

Nice that this defaults to full screen though (assuming that's what your
stuff calls for)



On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   Okay.
>
> That's HOT.
>
> Jan
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:23 PM, schlomo rabinowitz <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> >
> wrote:
>
>
> > Hey all
> > I think this. is. AWESOME: <http://www.viewzi.tv/>
> >
> > Perfect for those that do their own flash compression (I would imagine
> > using
> > one of the free services wouldnt come out as good blown up like it is on
> > this site)
> >
> > It's a site even my own mom would understand and enjoy.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > I'm in the process of working with a friend who actually knows how to
> code
> > on a redesign of my site (and yes, Mr. Tim Street, I will finally use
> > schlomo.tv..), and am putting together my dream list of wants. Not sure
> if
> > I "really" want this look, but I enjoy watching videos like this.
> >
> > --
> > Schlomo Rabinowitz
> > http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> > http://hatfactory.net
> > AIM:schlomochat
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jan McLaughlin
> Production Sound Mixer
> air = 862-571-5334
> aim = janofsound
> skype = janmclaughlin
>
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>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] my favorite vlog template of the week

[Brook Hinton]

I don't know if it's possible to do a really theatrical web interface but I
have been thinking along those lines for an upcoming project. Meanwhile, I
guess I've just grown to prefer webbier interfaced for video to tv-ish
interfaces. And really, if its a videoblog there is a lot going for the
simplicity of some basic templates out there . Heck look at scratchvideo.tv.
Other than lacking a single big uber-archive (so one doesn't have to
remember what month and year something was posted when trying to find it),
it's simple, clean, and as far as I know it's just a simple prefab typepad
template. I find it much more satisfying than most of the newer video
themes.
But this all comes SO much down to personal taste, and to the type / goal of
the site/person.

Brook


On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:46 AM, schlomo rabinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   Ha!:)
> Of course you are right, that's why my mom would love it!
>
> There is a fine line between channel surfing and choosing. The thumbnail
> strip does have text to tell you what it is... I like how its not
> bogged-down in text, which is a direction I may start to move toward as I
> find that my writing is not really much of an extension of my video...
> though its the text that gets indexed in search engines at the moment.
>
> So though it does have a tv slant, I definitely think its a web
> interface...
> if that makes any sense.
>
> And it definitely has "pro-theater" setting to me though its a theater
> that proabaly only has one person sitting in it.
>
> What would a "pro-theater/anti-tv" interface look like on the web? Not a
> blog, to be sure. I'd love to see an example of what you are thinking,
> Brook.
>
> Enquiring minds want to know!:)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I HATE that scroll-through-thumbnail-strip navigation. Ugh. It's like
> > channel surfing, not choosing.This feels like TV. (disclaimer: personal
> > anti-tv / pro-theater / pro-net-video bias).
> >
> > Nice that this defaults to full screen though (assuming that's what your
> > stuff calls for)
> >
>
> --
> Schlomo Rabinowitz
> http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> http://hatfactory.net
> AIM:schlomochat
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: my favorite vlog template of the week

[Brook Hinton]

I do. Though I really LIKE the combination of text and video - to me its
part of the form. But the text is as difficult as the video, and it would be
nice to be able to JUST post video without sacrificing search/index
functionality.
brook

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   It's funny you mentioned the text portion of your vlog. I stuggle
> myself with what to write down sometime...well actually most times.
> Sometimes I write to help the viewer gain an understanding of "why",
> sometimes I write because I just want it have something for the
> search engines to index. I find my tastes changing, I find I no
> longer want to write a long post, heck half the time, I just want to
> put a video up and be done with it. It's weird.
>
> Does anyone else stuggle with this stuff or am I just on an island
> again ;)
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
> http://heathparks.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> "schlomo rabinowitz"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ha!:)
> > Of course you are right, that's why my mom would love it!
> >
> > There is a fine line between channel surfing and choosing. The
> thumbnail
> > strip does have text to tell you what it is... I like how its not
> > bogged-down in text, which is a direction I may start to move
> toward as I
> > find that my writing is not really much of an extension of my
> video...
> > though its the text that gets indexed in search engines at the
> moment.
> >
> > So though it does have a tv slant, I definitely think its a web
> interface...
> > if that makes any sense.
> >
> > And it definitely has "pro-theater" setting to me though its a
> theater
> > that proabaly only has one person sitting in it.
> >
> > What would a "pro-theater/anti-tv" interface look like on the web?
> Not a
> > blog, to be sure. I'd love to see an example of what you are
> thinking,
> > Brook.
> >
> > Enquiring minds want to know!:)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I HATE that scroll-through-thumbnail-strip navigation. Ugh.
> It's like
> > > channel surfing, not choosing.This feels like TV. (disclaimer:
> personal
> > > anti-tv / pro-theater / pro-net-video bias).
> > >
> > > Nice that this defaults to full screen though (assuming that's
> what your
> > > stuff calls for)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Schlomo Rabinowitz
> > http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> > http://hatfactory.net
> > AIM:schlomochat
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Decline in posts to this group.

[Brook Hinton]

Some of the people on this list are on The Well now.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:04 AM, schlomo rabinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   One thing about this list that will never change is that this was the
> place
> where the pioneers in uncharted territory would discuss videoblogging. The
> list may not have high educational content now, but the archives are filled
> with it.
> For those that can understand this: This list is like The Well. Very few
> people think about The Well anymore, but its place in history is
> undisputed.
>
> And there are sexier people on this list than that were on The Well in its
> early days:)
>
> --
> Schlomo Rabinowitz
> http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
> http://hatfactory.net
> AIM:schlomochat
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Easy code generator for High Quality YouTube embeds

[Brook Hinton]

Yay Rupert!


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Re: [videoblogging] Essay on Photographers' Rights

[Brook Hinton]

That is awesome Adam, thanks for posting it.
I'm totally in the Life is Richer Thanks to Cartier-Bresson camp here.
Ironically, France now has some of the most restrictive laws regarding
public photography in the western world. C-B could not work there now.

I believe the documentation, analysis and artistic interpretation of
unstaged human public activity is essential for the advancement of art,
life, and knowledge. Speaking subjectively, my world would be infinitely
poorer, both spiritually and intellectually, without the work that has been
done in this area. I would also be a far lesser person - this is the work
that reminds us of our humanity, our connection to other human beings, and
our fleeting existence in time as mortals on earth. The faces and gestures
and actions revealed and captured (and even interpretively altered altered
in some cases) in this work are the real core of understanding humanity,
revealing or provoking aspects of life that words alone - even in those
sciences of human and social behaviour - or staged simulations, lack the
capacity to grasp.

All of that said, the age of hypercommercialization, infinite digital
reproduceability and humans as "property" is making me question my own
perhaps unconscious role in supporting systems I despise through work of
this sort. I've just started a project (not a vlog though) on the subject
which I'm designing partly to attack my own views on this subject and force
me to think about them more deeply.

That's my pretentious take on it. It goes beyond rights for me. Now I'll
shut up before I start ranting and raving about walled communities and the
decline of public space and on and on..

Brook



On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   http://www.maximumsorrow.com/writing/whyineverprintmyphotos.html
>
> I have encountered the police dozens of times while taking photos in
> > America. Once, while photographing houses at night, a squad car with
> blazing
> > searchlights swarmed me for questioning as a pair of officers physically
> > restrained a bath-robed homeowner who was screaming at me from a nearby
> > yard, "there he is, that's him! He was taking photos of my boat!" I have
> > been tailed by white security vans around the perimeters of office parks,
> > had my ID examined at length on manicured lawns, been shouted at from
> moving
> > vehicles, had my license plate number written down by dads and various
> men
> > wearing sunglasses, and waited patiently in parking lots for my
> background
> > to be checked via police radio.
>
> The police here in NYC are under considerable pressure from higher-ups to
> play the part of Big Brother. And since it's the biggest tourist city in
> America, it makes it even more difficult for them to figure out who is an
> enemy combatant and who is taking pictures to show Grandma.
>
> I'd be interested to hear some other folks ideas of privacy vs. artists'
> rights. Once you had kids, did it change?
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercamp Who is going?

[Brook Hinton]

I'm trying to figure out a way to go, odds are in favor that I can do it. I
should know early this week (I know, I know, no refunds after 7/1)...
Brook


On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   If you can make it to Cincinnati, I will take you the rest of the way
> buddy! I am going for sure!
>
> Heath
> http://batmangeek.com
> http://heathparks.com
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com ,
> Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I am totally psyched about it and saved up $1000 to get me there
> and
> > back. I've noticed a couple of people - Jen Simmons and Cheryl
> Colan
> > - dropped out, but there's some great people going. We need more!
> >
> > http://vloggercamp.pbwiki.com/FrontPage
> >
> > That said, the woman we rented our London house to has turned out
> to
> > be a non-paying drunk, so I am now totally out of cash and using
> the
> > money I put aside for Vloggercamp so we can eat. So there's a
> small
> > chance I won't be able to afford my tickets.
> >
> > Rupert
> >
> > On 27-Jun-08, at 9:45 AM, Michael Verdi wrote:
> >
> > I'm about 99% there - trying to figure it all today
> >
> > Verdi
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:29 AM, John Coffey
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Who is going to Vloggercamp? I've already booked my airline tix
> to
> > St Louis. Don't leave and Demanda Condom hanging!
> > >
> > > John Coffey
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > --
> > http://graymattergravy.com
> > http://reportsfromthefuture.com
> > http://michaelverdi.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercamp Who is going?

[Brook Hinton]

looks like my work schedule isn't going to let this happen for me after all.
expletive,

brook



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Anyone going to the New Media Expo?

[Brook Hinton]

Not a fan of Vegas, not a fan of conventions of any kind, and yet here
I am budgeting the gas costs and trying to see if the Tam O'Shanter is
still on the strip and still a cheap place to stay, and trying to
concoct a film out of it all.  So maybe I'll meet some o use.

Brook



On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's my first as well Nick. I was pinching my pennies to go on my own, but
> then it occurred to me that it falls right in line with my day job. So I
> wrote up a proposal to have the company fund me, and to my surprise, it was
> approved:)
>
> I'd be happy to meet you there if you decide to go!
>
> Adam W. Warner
> http://indielab.org
> http://wordpressmodder.org
>
> 
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Nick Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 10:58:08 PM
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Anyone going to the New Media Expo?
>
> I'm still debating if I should go or not.
>
> I have never been to a conference because they are too expensive, or I
> find out about it too late.
>
> I don't know...
>
> Nick
> www.schmult. com
> www.schmult. tumbr.com
> www.twitter. com/schmult
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Anyone going to the New Media Expo?

[Brook Hinton]

Oh no. The Tam O'Shanter is gone. Damn progress anyway!


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film/video/audio art
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Re: [videoblogging] what will be the impact of voter generated remixes on the election?

[Brook Hinton]

"What do you think will be the impact of voter-generated videos?"

worthless free opinion:

I think the only factor that will determine whether "voter-generated
videos" (aren't they all?) or remixes will impact the election is the
videos themselves, which we can't know or really even analyze
effectively until the election is over. If between one and a handful
of people create something just stupendously persuasive, if someone
breaks open an issue in a way no one has considered before, or
something else along those lines occurs, there could be an impact. If
someone makes a clever but misleading or dishonest but virally
efficient piece of dreck that is the equivalent of a brilliantly
devious unfair attack ad, it might also have an impact. Unfortunately,
given the bias toward short form work (and viewing) on the web, the
latter is more likely, regardless of which side it attacks or favors.

But I suspect most of this work, including some really good work, will
be preaching to the converted, and therefore have little short-term
political impact. That said, I would love to see the unknown budding
Errol Morrises and Chris Markers and Negativlands and Bruce Connors of
the world make some noise in this area.


Brook





On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:40 PM, noel hidalgo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What do you think will be the impact of voter-generated videos?
>
> Over the past few months, the team at RemixAmerica.org have wondered
> the same. If we look at the Obama campaign and search YouTube, you
> will find - Vote Different, will.i.am's "Yes We Can," Obama Girl, The
> Empire Strikes Barack, and Baracky - just to name a few.
>
> Yet YouTube's term's of service has already brought down The Empire
> Strikes Barack and Baracky. (btw, you can find them at
> RemixAmerica.org - but ask yourself how many others are censured?) So
> we at www.RemixAmerica.org are publicly beta launching to enlist your
> input.
>
> Over the past few weeks, we've dusted out the bugs, washed the
> windows, and organized the furniture for a little 4th of July
> celebration. If you have a few minutes this weekend, check out
> http://RemixAmerica.org - I promise you a treat.
>
> http://RemixAmerica.org is the new home for remixers and video
> remixes. We are a non-partisan, non-profit project of Declare
> Yourself. Through RemixAmerica.org you can participate within the
> political medium of video remixes, mashups and video comments. Not
> only can you use our software to easily create your own remixes! BUT
> you can join the discussion by using your webcam to "talk back."
>
> Through our "American Playlist," we make it easy to combine today's
> political debate with America's great ideas and historical speeches --
> from the Gettysburg Address to Kennedy's Inaugural to Dr. King's
> speeches -- we give you the power to remix America's greatest moments.
> Check out our blog for highlights, http://blog.remixamerica.org
>
> If you are a remixer, we would love to feature your work. Upload to
> http://RemixAmerica.org today, and we promise you an informed and
> engaged community.
>
> If you are a citizen journalist, cultural producer, community
> organizer, activist, volunteer, campaign worker and have videos to
> share, upload them to http://RemixAmerica.org. We want to explore the
> impact of video remixes around America. We want to hear your voice and
> see your thoughts.
>
> Also, we have noticed that there is no global discussion list for
> remixers. SO we have set up a google group at <
> http://groups.google.com/group/videoremix >. We hope that you join the
> mix and help us develop a global network of creators.
>
> In short, we are ready to see your creativity. If you think we need to
> change ANYTHING, please email me < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and I will
> make sure your questions, comments, complaints, or problems are
> addressed.
>
> We look forward to seeing you and we really look forward to your comments.
>
> From the staff of www.RemixAmerica.org - Fred, Erika, Noel, Ali &
> Marshal - have a safe and wonderful weekend!
>
> 



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Re: [videoblogging] what will be the impact of voter generated remixes on the election?

[Brook Hinton]

(the preceding comment is not intended in ANY way to be a comment of
RemixAmerica, which looks very intriguing).



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