hello sir, thank you for your beautiful tips
with best regards
m.chandru
- Original Message -
From: "prateek aggarwal"
To: "accessindia"
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Refraining myself from commenting on
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek aggarwal
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:15 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Refraining myself from commenting on any analogy, I think that its
now vital to find some feasible
ppointment and
fortunate he don't know anything on computer, just owing a diploma.
- Original Message -
From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
So in a nut shell, occasional usage
or without escort depends
>> upon; choice, resources, confidence, effort and ability. Everyone requires
>> some assistance or help whether he be sighted or visual impaired person.
>>
>> anand sharma
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "R
gt; - Original Message -
> From: "Raghavendra .G"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 12:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
>
>> Hi friends, this is raghavendra from karnataka, Some of the placess
>> Really we need a escor
for
> the general problems being faced by we people of blind community.
>
> I’m sure that your expert suggestions/advices will come useful to
> many, including me.
>
> Regards,
> Prateek agarwal.
> Director,
> Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
> www.daedaltechnovations.com
>
>
.
www.daedaltechnovations.com
website:
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
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-- Original message --
From: "George Abraham"
To:
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:53:59 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
That is an interesting analogy!
- Original Message
.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
From: Ajay Minocha
Date: 01/10/2011 4:29 am
very well said Amit sir
please don't mind but have you visited to cities like simla mansuri?
if you were able to walk there independently then please shair some
tips specially rega
From: "Raghavendra .G"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Hi friends, this is raghavendra from karnataka, Some of the placess
Really we need a escort for instancess While walking through mud and
bad roads connected towards
; That is an interesting analogy!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "anil joshi"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>>
>>
>> grate sir !
>> I salute you.
>&
analogy!
> - Original Message -
> From: "anil joshi"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
>
> grate sir !
> I salute you.
>
> On 9/30/11, Amit Bhatt wrote:
>> IN my final s
That is an interesting analogy!
- Original Message -
From: "anil joshi"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
grate sir !
I salute you.
On 9/30/11, Amit Bhatt wrote:
> IN my final statement and opinion, The Juic
manent.
> that's it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhat
> - Original Message -
> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
>
>> what to do, if escort i
ndependent mobility is permanent.
> that's it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhat
> - Original Message -
> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
>
>> w
KAR VERMA"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
what to do, if escort is not available? is their any solution? or one has
to move alone. please come with the solution, i think that the theme has
gone from its subject.
- Original
Soni"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Hi, besides the places you mentioned, it is difficult to move without
escort in small towns and some villages where stray animals like cows and
bulls, stray dogs etc. challenge the ability of
om: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of YADAV, D. N
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:47 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Mobility with 'fixed escort' or without one with your
able to do some vital things visually.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of YADAV, D. N
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:47 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:54 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
That's it.
I su
enced it.
- Original Message -
From: "YADAV, D. N"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Mobility with 'fixed escort' or without one with your cane/no cane is like
moving in a familiar world of your own &a
rg.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of YADAV, D. N
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:47 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Mobility with 'fixed escort' or without one with your cane/no cane is like
moving in a familia
Mobility with 'fixed escort' or without one with your cane/no cane is like
moving in a familiar world of your own & another unfamiliar to you. White cane
can only be a safety tool to prevent your near fall but not a guide as u have
to ask directions from others despite your cane.
Recently I ha
estimate when your escort gets there. Besides, it is not easy
> matching your schedule with that of the escort.
>
> This is just a point to consider. Not suggesting either ways.
>
> Harish Kotian.
>
> From: Himanshu Sahu
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [
ching
your schedule with that of the escort.
This is just a point to consider. Not suggesting either ways.
Harish Kotian.
From: Himanshu Sahu
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Another aspect of this whole discussion regarding independent mobili
er you require?
>> So, escort for mobility is surely a reasonable choice, provided it
>> satisfies
>> my triple test of availability/affordability/privacy propounded earlier.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:05 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
> But the important
Generally, I always keep folding cane with me. I use the service of
escort for boarding me into bus and manage on my own inside and the
time of getting down. Generally, someone would be standing from my
family on prior information which I give them by cellphone and if not,
do not face much difficul
uesday, September 27, 2011 10:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
But the important thing is to ask for a taller ladder to paint the
remaining wall, and not to ask someone to paint the wall because of
the limitation. That's the spirit r
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Well, whether depending on a permanent sighted guide or using cane is
a matter of personal choice. I
ge -
> From: "Ajay Minocha"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] tips to manage without escort?
>
>
>> Hi members
>> I am 75% visually chalanged
>> I have not used cane yet
>> but now thinking to use it becau
the
>> >> coach asked me as to how I managed alone while travelling. I told her
>> >> that
>> >> I
>> >> plan my trips in advance and take care of every small detail plus
>> >> there
>> >> are
>> >> still nice peo
Hi Ajay
You can learn in one day
how to move cane
if you interested then you can come to me on Sunday.
- Original Message -
From: "Ajay Minocha"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] tips to manage without escort?
Hi members
I am 75% visually c
l nice people like her in the World . When you need them, they turn
>> up.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Vamshi. G"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>>
>>
>>
ach asked me as to how I managed alone while travelling. I told her that
>> I
>> plan my trips in advance and take care of every small detail plus there
>> are
>> still nice people like her in the World . When you need them, they turn
>> up.
>> ----- Original Messa
them, they turn up.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vamshi. G"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
>
> Back on the subject. No further comments on English language please.
>
> I hav
Hello
You can consider using the folding cane. It may help get over the initial
inhibition using a cane.
Harish
- Original Message -
From: "Vamshi. G"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] tips to manage without escort?
Hi Ajay,
I am i
Hi Ajay,
I am in the same situation as you are in. Some vision and wearing glasses.
One of my friends told me to start using a white cane when we have
some vision as it becomes that easy to get used to it. The biggest
challenge is to get rid of the initial inhibitions. Once you can do
it, it wi
Hi members
I am 75% visually chalanged
I have not used cane yet
but now thinking to use it because of the motivation that I get from
people like you
and it's benifits
when I walk on road if I ask somebody to help me in crossing the road
they think that I am trying to pretend that's why I have deci
Hello friends
I like to raise one more thing to this topic which I think is missing so far
from our discussion that mobility is greatly dependent on the conditions
where we live in . I am 100% visually challenged and I have to travel around
40 km daily from barnala where I live to sangrur where I w
there are
still nice people like her in the World . When you need them, they turn up.
- Original Message -
From: "Vamshi. G"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Back on the subject. No further comments on English langu
dbbarma...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/26/11, Asudani, Rajesh wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well said Vetri.
>>>>>>>> Walking without cane, unescorted, is surely folly.
>>>>>>>> However, u
er, using one's residual sight for mobility purposes instead of
>>>>>>> wasting
>>>>>>> it on reading and writing print as some folks do, is also a sound
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have given t
ea
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have given to a few who have made a good use of it.
>>>>>> But, for totally blind, apart from white cane, can echolocation be
>>>>>> taught
>>>>>> and practiced as a supplemental mobility a
> taught
>>>>> and practiced as a supplemental mobility aid, as some folks in US claim
>>>>> to
>>>>> do?
>>>>> Are they exceptions, or it can be cultivated as a technique?
>>>>> Would have been interesting to grapple with a
epting the liberal-modern notion of the individual as rational,
>>>>>>>> free and independent.
>>>>>>>> We need to may be think further in lines of human interdependence
>>>>>>>> rather than any utopian notion of independent living, its a
ully miss.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility assistance
>>> by
>>> sighted, for who knows, lest they be repelled from assisting anybody.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessin
sting to grapple with all these issues practically
>>> at
>>> AI convention, which I would regretfully miss.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility assistance
>>> by
>>> sighted, for who knows, lest they be repe
> Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility assistance by
>> sighted, for who knows, lest they be repelled from assisting anybody.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun.
rom assisting anybody.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
> Vetrivel Murugan
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.or
Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:56 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
But if you are looking for tips without white cane, then I am afraid
that you are out of luck. Especially for someone with little or
you should have confidence and you should not
> feel shy to ask public help. It needs lot of patience.- Original
> Message -
> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without es
.- Original
Message -
From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
But if you are looking for tips without white cane, then I am afraid
that you are out of luck. Especially for someone with little or
gh philosophise regarding independence. but under the
>>> present circumstance it is an illusive thing for us. hope one day will
>>> come when this topic itself will become redundant.
>>>
>>> with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee.
>>> cell: 094333051
lmost inaccessible in the evenings because of the
>>>>>> abundance of small shops where things of use are sold. there were
>>>>>> times when i nearly fell to the railway tracks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> moreover many people don't know h
Hi to all,
I am looking for tips with the cane, what I want to know that, inspire of
our normal cane, do we have any other type? like something with vibration or
sound or something like that? I had herd that there were some development of
that btw am not sure about where is the availability of
> train from becomes almost inaccessible in the evenings because of the
>>>>>> abundance of small shops where things of use are sold. there were
>>>>>> times when i nearly fell to the railway tracks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> moreover many pe
son; for a visually challanged person it is almost a nightmare. in
>>>>> rural roads, there are no pavement or anything. so escort becomes a
>>>>> necessity. but undoubtedly, moving alone is the most satisfying thing
>>>>> irrespective of fumbling or no fumb
a
>>>> necessity. but undoubtedly, moving alone is the most satisfying thing
>>>> irrespective of fumbling or no fumbling. but there is no heroism in
>>>> falling down and injuring oneself.
>>>>
>>>> we can enough philosophise regarding independ
ndence. but under the
>>> present circumstance it is an illusive thing for us. hope one day will
>>> come when this topic itself will become redundant.
>>>
>>> with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee.
>>> cell: 09433305139
>>>
>>> On
;>
>> with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee.
>> cell: 09433305139
>>
>> On 9/23/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote:
>>> if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace withit.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
s topic itself will become redundant.
>
> with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee.
> cell: 09433305139
>
> On 9/23/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote:
>> if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace withit.
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>>
irban Mukherjee.
cell: 09433305139
On 9/23/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote:
> if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace withit.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Raj Debbarma"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re
if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace withit.
- Original Message -
From: "Raj Debbarma"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
hi sir,
i agree with all your point.
i don't find anythi
n] On Behalf Of Anirban
> Mukherjee
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:09 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
> actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
> concerned. but, i agree, that we mus
Hello,
In view of the points raised by Mr. Rajesh, I believe that denial of point 1,
“1. The mobility is fraught with inherent risks, sometimes of life.”
is almost like denying the existence of blindness and the inherent
problems related with it. Confidence and efforts for independent
mobility are
india-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Anirban Mukherjee
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:09 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
concerne
hi sir,
i agree with all your point.
i don't find anything wrong to use cane specially in new surrounding
and also belief nothing wrong to ask direction to find our way. in
terms of holding hand, what i think there might be cultural
differences reguarding this. but if you are caring cane its
Hi all,
This is an interesting subject and here are my views:
First, It does not matter whether we fumble around to find our ways or
not. What matters is our ability to reach our destination on time
without hurting our-self. In relation to that, who cares about others
thinking when we fumble arou
actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
concerned. but, i agree, that we must look for self-reliance. but what
i would like to draw every body's attention is that the point that Mr
Rajesh sir made regarding escort in the other thread is absolutely
valid. it is insulting to sa
Dear Rajesh
i only agree with your thurd point,
to think that escort is there, and we don't need mobility is very much wrong.
sighted people can also put your life in to denjare, we must take
responsibility
for our life, and not totaly put responsibility on the shoulders of others.
secondly
imes wrong stations if you ask them. I
> don't know the solution of this problem.
> -Original Message-
> From: Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
>
>
--Original Message-
From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
Dear Srinivasu
Rightly said that low vision people don't face as much problems in mobility
as totally blind do.
It is
Hi Rajesh,
I do understand your concern and have no disagreement. But my objective of
this thread is to collect tips and tricks about how visually impaired can
travel alone. I have started a blog post on my site at
http://srinivasu.org/blog/2011/09/travel-tips-for-people-with-vision-impairment/
Fe
Dear Srinivasu
Rightly said that low vision people don't face as much problems in mobility as
totally blind do.
It is not impossible to manage without escort, I have done it myself,
travelling on Nagpur Roads in student days, and even travelling all alone in
trains in UP, bringing my elder siste
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